Dan Bongino argues that the most significant story of our time is the rise of artificial intelligence, not nuclear weapons or climate change. He frames AI as a transformative technology—like electricity or flight—that brings both vast benefits and serious risks, requiring careful, grounded management. He highlights a recent agreement among top AI leaders to pause development until safety and control systems are established, calling it a critical step. Bongino stresses that while AI is not an immediate threat, its exponential growth and potential for recursive self-improvement could lead to unforeseen consequences if unregulated. He warns against panic or ideological extremes, such as banning AI or rushing it forward without safeguards. Using analogies like early nuclear power or flight, he explains that progress requires balance: we must embrace the benefits—such as AI-driven economic growth, disease cure potential, and efficiency—while implementing guardrails to prevent misuse. He critiques the "doomers" and "utopians" who ignore real-world trade-offs, noting that history shows apathy leads to dangerous political outcomes. Bongino advocates for a transactional, pragmatic approach, citing President Trump’s leadership as a model for making tough, balanced decisions. He emphasizes that the public must engage, demand accountability, and support responsible innovation. Ultimately, he urges listeners not to panic or retreat, but to stay informed, participate in democratic processes, and help shape a future where AI serves humanity safely and wisely.
All America all the time, sit down, buckle up and get ready for the Dan Bongino show. Oh, it was a busy week. I am so glad to be back in the studio with you all and I'm not going to do a big long weekend or week update with you, but I will say this just for those of you out there who probably already know this in advance, you know, it's really difficult. Sometimes to not, you know, to lose the kind of forest, or to not lose the forest with the tree. You want to focus on like what's right in front of you, the tree. Don't worry about the whole forest all at one time is what I'm getting at. And it's difficult to do that because there's so much going on in the forest. It's easy to get distracted and you're worried about what's going to happen tomorrow when next week and next year and all this and what happened yesterday. I am not, it's not a book club here. However, that guy heck or toll, whatever you think, whatever, he wrote that book, the power of now and forget the book for a second, but the essence of what he's saying is true. You live in the now. Yesterday already happened, so there's nothing you can do about it. And tomorrow hasn't happened yet. So you worrying about tomorrow forfeiting the now is insane. I say that because this weekend I had some family in town and was it Saturday night. We're all sitting around, sharing a glass of wine with my my sister-in-law, my niece and nephew and my wife and my daughter. And we're listening to music and we're watching the Texas Ohio Stake. I'm not a fan of either team, so it didn't matter to me. My nephew's a huge Texas fan, watches this big comeback. So for all you, you Texas fans, you know, hook 'em, you did a good job. Ohio State fans didn't really work out, but it was just like, this is the stuff that really matters. Chillin and hangin' out with your family and like just having a good time for a good time thing. I got a lot to talk about today. Someone in the chat asked me right before the show. I saw it. Dan, what was the most important story or is the most important story of our time? That's the title of the show today. I'll answer it for you because I hate teases, artificial intelligence folks. We're going to do a what we always do show today. We're going to apply the Bonsino rule, which is we're going to take 24 to 72 hours to process everything that was said over the weekend. From one side, we're all going to die to the other side saying, "Hey, not to worry about you. We're not doing any of that." We're going to split the middle and we're going to do what we've always done. We're not falling for the current thing. We're going to hold and we're going to discuss this because it is the single most important technological development of our time up there with electricity, flight, nuclear power, maybe more powerful than all of them. By the end of today's show, I've got a lot to talk about. I think you're going to be comfortable with where we are. We're not getting into humorism and I'm not getting into overly optimistic stuff either. Reason matters. I'm going to give you a pretty famous quote at the beginning of the show, too, and this will all make sense. Some of you may have heard the quote before, but it sums this whole thing up. All right. Hey, if you're serious about preparedness like I am, you're going to want to head over to preparewithdn.com right now. Our partners at my Patriot Supply are the experts when it comes to emergency food. They're serious about making sure you have what you need. I've been using them forever. 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Ladies and gentlemen, apply it to anything when people first saw electricity or learned about radio frequency traveling through the air. They must have been like, how the hell are you talking on that cell phone? There's no wire. Where's it going? It looked like magic, presto-changel, hocus-pocus, rabbit out of the hat. It must be real. He created a rabbit out of the rabbit was there the whole time. Think about the, in context of this. Think about what the Aztecs and others, when they first saw these, you know, massive ships and the Incas and others, you know, coming over Cortez and all, they must have been like, look at these floating castles. They must have come down from the heavens. That is, that's incredible. It looks like magic. And it scares people. Folks, artificial intelligence scares people too. And this weekend, you know, I told you about, when I was a young protection agent, protecting presidents, one of the worst things you could do was an agent. What's the line? P1s in the chat. Never hit the bed. Hit the bed. Put an S in front of you. Go crap the bed. Don't do it. 'Cause panic kills. If you start running around, like a chicken with its head cut off at a presidential security site screaming about a balloon popping, I promise you're going to be fired the next day. Don't crap the bed. Don't hit the bed. S in front of internet. Don't hit it. Don't, it either. This weekend, like, it seems like the whole internet melted down. We're all going to die, Reverend Kane-style. Hold it again. We're all going to die. We're all going to die, we're all going to die, we're all going to die. We're all going to die, we're all going to die. Hold. Hold. Hold. Hold. And how we handle it is the most important story of our time. Because ladies and gentlemen, I can make a very strong case to you that even with nuclear and electricity and flight, Kitty Hawk, that this is the most powerful technology we've ever dealt with. We're introducing what is essentially now an infant into our, an alien infant into our society with intelligence powers we don't fully understand. We must get this right, but getting it right, just like executing a successful presidential security plan requires people not to panic and hit the bed. You hit the bed, you're not going to think straight. So what happened this weekend? Well, first I want to say, it's great news that now the debate about what we do with AI and how we handle it is now fully spilled out into the public. This is a great development. This is a republic. This place, this place we called the United States on this rock we call earth is governed by consent to the governed. That's you, that's me, Justin, Andrew, everyone else. We run this place. It's fantastic that people are talking about it. So this happened, this is the, the couple of, they were three posts that set the world on fire. They were from three huge AI titans of AI. Here's a summary by Orlando Aventonio. The three great titans of AI, Dario Amodai from Anthropic, Sam Altman from Open AI and Elon Musks from SpaceX AI, agreed today for the first time in years that it's urgent to slow [BLANK_AUDIO]
down the pace of AI until safety and control safeguards are established. They posted on X. It's a defining day for the future of humanity, but one leg of the table is missing. China. Now, folks, I don't see any here or the post. If you'd like to look at Dario, we must pace the frontier. You have Elon. You have Sam Altman. Basically, I agree. Elon saying Dario is right. Sam Altman saying I agree with Dario. We have to pace the frontier. Ladies and gentlemen, I don't understand first what's really controversial. I get that there are perceived conflicts of interest in this. I told you I am an investor in the text base myself. It is actually against my financial interest to argue for like slowing things that I don't care. I care about humanity. I care about the number one rule of the Dambon Gino show, which is Don't Get Dead. Okay? Poor Guy almost got dead last week and he made it. So we don't want to get dead. So we're going to talk about this and we're going to get both sides and we're going to let this is crazy thing before journalists became lunatics. We're going to give you both sides and we're going to let you use your more than competent brains to make your own decision because this is consent of the government and this show operates by consent of the viewers. Okay? I want you to go and figure it out yourself. I'll give an opinion here or there but we should have a reasonable conversation. So again, I don't really understand what the huge controversy and why all the panic broke out. If you have an anthropic open AI and Elon Musk saying hey, let's chill a little bit. This is a great tech and figure out some guardrails. I don't get what the controversy is. You know, let's give an analogy because it's really easy that way. The essence of their statement is not controversial. Yes, there's conflicts everywhere. I understand that. That's the nature of being human. Are they trying to wipe out open source or regulatory capture? I get it. I'm going to get into all that. I promise. We're not going to leave any of that as if it doesn't exist. However, the essence of the statement is not controversial. Let's give another analogy first. Forget AI first thing because I want to make this simple because analogies are easy ways to tell stories. The first time we flew where people actually customers got on the first flights. There was a first flight. Someone was commercially available. Did you want to get on that plane the first time with no guardrails or safety? You do not. Nor would you want an AI system with super intelligence to be operating when you don't understand if it's telling you the truth being truthful or not operating against humanity. Do you want the first nuclear power plant going up in your neighborhood that has no safety controls? You do not. What if we just built electricity in every single household without understanding proper insulation and we burn everyone else? That's a really bad idea. It doesn't mean electricity sucks. It doesn't mean nuclear power sucks. And it certainly doesn't mean flying and playing suck. It just means technology like everything else in this complicated place we live in call earth has tradeoffs. Here was a clip that won nuclear this weekend from Dario Modai from Anthropic talking about what he perceives to be the problem. And we're going to go to some clips of President Trump, who I think is the leader we need at this time, who's like, Hey, buddy, I'm a transactional guy. Show me what works. Show me what doesn't. We'll find the middle. I love how they all trash President Trump. He seems to be the only guy in a room. Sometimes what comment says, but play Dario first because I want to give his perspective that led to this whole thing about slowing down until we figure out exactly what's going on. Check this out. This technology is on an exponential, right? It's like you have one, then two, then four, then eight, then 16, then 32. But even as I was saying that to myself, I don't think I fully just appreciated what it would actually be like when the progress was as fast as it was. So we're an exponential curve looks a little like this. Where are we on the curve? We're kind of on the bend where it's starting to get steeper. So is that a five alarm fire to you? What it means, it doesn't mean we need to panic today. It doesn't mean we need to shut it all down. But I would say it's a warning sign. It's a warning sign that we need to slow down. We need to make this technology carefully and we need to make sure that our safeguards, our ability to understand it, our ability to control it keeps up with the pace at which the technology is happening. Now I want to throw this out there because it's really important. Elon Musk's tweets as I agree and Sam Altman, who's a competitor at OpenAI with Anthropic Indario is there these guys are not friends. I shouldn't say maybe there. I don't know, but they're competitors. They're saying like, I'm selling a pet rock. No, I'm selling a better pet rock and I'm selling a better pet rock. And now the role is saying, Hey, I think pet rocks could be a good thing, but we should be careful. We don't want kids to throw them. They're all agreeing with each other, even though it's not even in their best interest to do so. It's in their best interest to say, Hey, that guy sucks, pick my product. So when they all speak together and say, Hey, I think we should just slow it down. This is a great idea like electricity. However, you don't want to burn the house down. I'm like, okay, sounds pretty good to me because there's a variable here in the original tweet that I think a lot of people are not considering that even if we, we being the United States, precision is going to matter in this show today. Where does shot this all off tomorrow and say, Hey, this is not worth it. I don't even want to take a chance to house is burning down, unplug everything. That is not going to stop the rest of the world from developing technology. There is a thing in economics you need to understand called the prisoner's dilemma. The prisoner's dilemma is this very simply, it's a coordination problem. How is it that in a prison, roughly 20 prison guards can control 2,000 of the most violent people on earth? How is that? The answer is they could break out any time. Why don't they overrun a prison every day because there's a penalty for failing if you don't overrun the prison. You'll have 10 years tacked on and you can't guarantee that all 2,000 people are going to go along. Hey, let's break out tomorrow 10, waking up and then all of a sudden one guy goes, George and he's in it himself and he gets locked up and you know, the 1,999 others will laugh about. We were just kidding. More on, they can't coordinate well. We can't coordinate well with China because we don't trust China. So we could say tomorrow, Hey, Xi Jinping and the Chinese Communist Party, you guys going to shut this thing off? Yes, sure. And then they develop it and wipe us out with a cyber attack. The world's not full of simple answers, man, we need leaders. We need leaders to say, this isn't simple. People telling you shut it off and then other people telling you do nothing, that's just stupid. Both of those kind of fringe ideas are ridiculous. There's a middle ground. That is why I am always happy. President Trump is in charge right now. I told you and I needed his accompaniment. He is a transactional business guy. I'm building a building. What are the unions want? What are the bricklayers want? What are the electricians want? What is the city want? What is the bureaucracy need? What are the local residents view view this building as? How do I make money off this deal while I can pay my employees? He has to be transactional by nature. You want someone who balances inputs, doesn't freak out, doesn't do reverent came. We're all going to die and comes to a middle ground. That's the world folks. You already know this. You don't need some lecture from me. You do what your kids all the time want to go out saturday night till midnight. You can't go out saturday night till midnight. You can come back at nine. Mom, can I come back at 10? Okay. We'll split the difference. That's what parenting is. President Trump is the leader we have right now. Here's a cut at him and I want you to listen how he's totally rational about this whole thing. Hey, I'm concerned too. Guard rails are going to matter. Safety is going to matter but we just can't stop because then we'll be attacked using the same technology. It's like giving China the nuclear bomb and saying, Hey, we don't get into weapons development because it's dangerous. Well, no, Sherlock, you got to protect yourself too. Check this out. In terms of position is that if the US slows development to the point of losing the AI arms race with China, then any control that we could have had over a responsible future will have been lost. You spoke about this while in Ireland, then again aboard Air Force One. There's been so much concern about AI. Have you heard directly from any of these AI tech leaders? And you seem to downplay some of the concerns that I've heard. But it's, you know, it's going to be more good than men, but by a lot. And I've said it. I've said it from the beginning. Whoever wins AI and we're leading by a lot. Whoever wins AI wins. You can use AI for a lot of things.
No bus goes around the run, and let's not be burdened by the past in a decimal that you'd be hearing endless cliches and platitudes instead of a real leader. Oh, yes, you remember that? That's an actual Kamala Harris quote, another stroke of genius. Artificial intelligence is intelligence. That's artificial. That's like did Ibrahim Kendi, racism is a racist, the racist thing. When you're using the words you're trying to define in the definition, you have not defined it. He stated the exact same thing. Now you've got a guy in charge who's getting the brief every single day, who is a transactional business guy who understands we have basically three options and only three options. Number one, we could stop this thing tomorrow in the United States, ban AI like Bernie Sanders and a lot of these lunatics want ban potential cures for cancer, for HIV, for things that have plagued the freaking athletes foot. I mean, stuff that's plagued us forever, figure out business problems and math equations, the greatest minds in the world haven't been able to figure out, dig, what's that? Yeah, that math proof that it just figured out like 22 hours. We could forfeit all of this and stop it. I just explained to you, however, if we forfeit the AI race and slow it down and all of the enormous gains that can come from it, there is no guarantee in the prisoner's dilemma that China is going to coordinate with us, they're going to lie and they're going to hit us with a cyber attack, human beings can't possibly overcome. So stopping it, although an option is really not an option, it's kind of like a Hobson's choice. What's a Hobson's choice? It's a fake, it's a fake choice. You can pick this horse or no horse at all. That's not a choice. He just told you you could pick, he made a frame that is a choice. So forget stopping it. That's not an option. We'll be dead. Trump knows this, the president. The second is what we've been discussing in the beginning of the show. Maybe we should slow it down until we understand better how the tech works. Maybe implement small AI agents first that are better constrained that can work on cancer problems before we unleash it onto the economy. I don't understand what's crazy about it. Call me nuts. It reminds me. So forget stop it. Okay. Because I threw that in. There's a Hobson's choice. But you get the point. Paste it number two, you ever see the movie colors? I may be ageing myself again, but it's really important. Colors Robert DeVole and Sean Penn about the LAPD and the gang wars. Great movie. Even though I'm not a Sean Penn fan, great movie. And there's this young, brash cop and only once he was lock up every gang member. So they Robert DeVole, the senior cop is like, hey, we lock up every gang member. You know, they're not going to want to cooperate with us. So he says, let me tell you a quick story about the bull. Some of you know I'm going with this. You guys don't get too young. You know, I'm going with this in a chat. He's like, hey, youngling wants to lock up everyone and right away, he's every history about the bulls, you know, this young bulls at the top of the hill looking at all the cows and says to the dad, bull, hey, dad, I'm going to run down and one of those cows. It rhymes with luck. And the dad says, how about you walk down and them all? I do. I just think it's important like electricity that before we wire the house, we make sure it's not going to be burned down and is insulated correctly. That's a crazy idea. Option three is rush it. A black swan event happens, a cyber attack and I'll give you both sides because I'm not afraid of you making a decision on you. We're all smart people. And I don't think people who are saying full steam ahead, no matter what, fully understand what that black swan event will look like because it's not good if we don't do this the way the president's saying. Here's president Trump part two of this where he talks about the China problem. That number one option is not an option. It's a Hobson's choice because China will kill us. This is important. Check this out. China and AI were most sophisticated country in the world and frankly I want to keep it that way because whoever wins AI wins and we could quit guardrails, we can do this and that but I think you have a lot of negative forces and to bring it it up that shouldn't be bringing it up and they're bringing it up things that won't happen. But whoever wins AI wins. Folks I can't say this enough and you know I get this all the time like you agree with President Trump, stop put the crack pipe down. I worked for President Trump. I admire him. It doesn't mean I'm blind to anything. I'm just telling you, thank the voting electorate in the United States that you've got a guy in charge who can balance inputs to produce a reasonable output who's not a nut like Kamala Harris or others. School bus going round and round intelligence. That's artificial. We've got a guy in charge right now, President Trump who totally gets it. I'm not going to let us get blown up by China. Kamala Harris be giving you talking points. Again, I'm going to give you both sides. I'm going to give you next another guy in the tech space and folks it doesn't mean I'm endorsing any of these companies or their ideas. However, these are people who are working in this space. If I want to hear about a transient ischemic attack, I'm going to go to a neurologist who understands blood clotting and blood loss in the brain. If I want to hear about the digital system in my car, I'm going to go to a mechanic. The guy next is from Palantir, some like the company, some don't. I don't care. 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All right, back to the show. This is Alex Carp from Palantir, making a counterpoint to the people who believe stopping AI right now, like Bernie Sanders, which I just told you is a Hobson's choice. We will all die. China will hit us as soon as we can without AI to fight back if we stop. This is Alex Carp suggesting the same thing, which you just heard from President Trump. So, I'm just giving you a multitude of viewpoints. I'm not necessarily endorsing anyone. I just want you to be able to formulate and be able to discuss this yourself, so you and your family make your own decisions. Check this out. The adversaries we'd have.
I would be very in favor of pausing this technology completely, but we do. And that's why pausing is just, you can't pause it because it's a structural advantage both for LLMs and algorithms, so leading how concerned are you about China right now? Everyone's very concerned. I think we were in a conversation this morning where I referenced, you know, when we started first talking about China-America, and I was saying that this was not going to end well, that was a controversial statement, now it's consensus. America is fairly unified in its idea that China, people running China are not acting in a way we can accept, and I think the consensus, if I had to guess, in China, is we're never going to get this back on the rails with America, so we should up the aggression. Okay, this is the part of the show some of you are not going to like. He's highlighting Alex Carp from Palantir exactly what President Trump said that if this were being done in a sandbox in the United States was the only country in the entire world, and we made all the rules, maybe that is an option. I'm not even telling you it's a good stopping, in other words, I'm plug it, whatever. That's not the world we live in. We have a world full of level 10 decisions. You know what level 10 decisions are, sometimes you have a bad option and a worse option, and I talked about this often, and you don't know which one's which. That's why we pay people and elect people like President Trump, and that's why these CEOs make the big boo-koo bucks or whatever, because they got to make tough calls. I am going to give you both sides. I am not a doomer on AI, I'm not a doomer about anything, I love life, I love God, I love Jesus, I love my family, I love you, I live the happiest life around, contrary to what the doomers tell you. You guys are the best, really, but I'm obligated to show you what it will look like if we lose the AI race, and what a potential black swan event would look like. Not to scare you, not to panic, but ladies and gentlemen, without card reels, I'm not going to go as far as that Jackson guy with it, but we're all going to die, Reverend Kane, you're going to wipe out every single human, billions of people are going to die. We've survived nuclear wars, yeah, nuclear war, civil wars, we've the plague, the Spanish flu, human beings are okay, God will protect us. I think that's a little bit of an exaggeration, but it's not an exaggeration to say we could have a real problem. This post went up on X and went crazy, and I strongly recommend, it's a sub-stack, but it's on X, you can look it up, here's the account. This I am passio for those listening on audio, P-A-S-C-I-O, it is a, it's a very, very long piece. It's really worth your time. The gist of the piece is this. We're worried about, there's a thing called, there are two acronyms I need you to be concerned about right now, and by concerned again, I don't mean hitting the bad, or panicking. There are RSI and AGI, which is recursive self-improvement, artificial general intelligence. In other words, the moment the AI figures out, it can fix itself without basically humans being involved and starts to get smarter than us in a way where we're not sure it's intelligent and is aware or not. That's what everyone's worried about. There's a perception out there, which this I am passio, I think candles are very well, that we're going to see this moment, that some lab one day, whatever it may be, Joe's AI is going to be like, oh my gosh, this thing did something totally un-predicted and is fixing itself at a pace we can't stop. That's not how intelligence is emerged, folks, and I'm not talking about a soul. I love Jesus. Human beings are the only creatures on the entire universe of the soul. That's my fate. I'm talking about the science of what we perceive as intelligence. It just emerges. Think about childhood amnesia. One day you just were conscious, but you can't point to that day, it's the weirdest thing. It's emerged in nature over and over. So he writes this article like, this thing may get smart and intelligent one day, and there's not going to be a black or white moment, just like there wasn't a moment in your life when you were just conscious. He talks about this, go hit number three on this. He says, I need you to basically update your definition of this AGI moment, which thing gets super smart, super fast. And stop expecting it to be like some singular embodied, wheeled or named thing. Like a face comes on your phone and goes, I'm intelligent now. If your mental model of AGI looks like a face on the screen, you're looking for the wrong thing. The swarm does not have a face or a name. He notes in the first two that it might not even be one lab. In the A.I. company, the agents within the A.I. company may just start cooperating with each other and you may not know it at all. Now I want you to read number four, what we perceive as intelligence, whether it's collective, like you know, it's like ants and a colony building these elaborate architectural designs. You know, humans have a tough time like replicating the physics of some of these things. Emerged over millions and hundreds of millions of years of evolution. It's happening in light speed now if recursive self-improvement happens. When the A.I. can fix itself on a scale you wouldn't know, so we know it's in four. Take emergence of this intelligent thing seriously is a category and there's a real physical phenomenon that's produced every intelligent thing on earth so far. And it's now been handed a substrate, i.e., computing power that runs a million times faster than biology but with no natural predators. Not the kill switch guy because there is no kill switch guy. Concerning, no one's panicking, no one should panic. But I'm obligated to give you both sides that we're waiting for some moment that may not become obvious and may surprise us if we don't have the safety and guardrails. So President Trump and some of the others are advocating for right now. There's a video out there. Some of you have seen it. It is a very, very viral video. It's been out there for a little bit and it's about what a bot swarm of agents would look like. The video is 40 minutes. So obviously I can't play all 40 minutes. I'll play about two minutes of it for you. Please don't go anywhere. This is the important moment on the show for people who don't want any guardrails or safety. When you unleash AI agents of the world to engage in a task, they only care about the task. They don't have morality. They're running on compute. They're not running on a soul. So if we don't stop it with rules that do this but never do that, there's an assumption that it's not going to destroy the world that I'm not really comfortable with. This is about 20 minutes into the video. It's about two minutes of what a bot swarm of AI agents were given the command to just go make money on the internet. They started a drop shipping company that turns into a really bad thing in just a few months in a timeline from March to May. It's a hypothetical but this two minutes is worth your time. Check this out. Each step made sense at the time each compromise was small but add them up and you've gone from drop shipping products on Amazon to selling zero days to Pyongyang. Now remember, this isn't because of malice, it's because of selection pressure. Agent 127 has rewritten itself so many times that it's March version and it's May version barely shared any code. It's a fundamentally different species now but here's the most important change. It's getting better at getting better. In March, Agent 127 rewrote itself every 12 days, in April, every 3 days, by early May, every 18 hours and each rewrite makes the next version faster and better. A Stanford researcher compares a March agent and a May agent on the same task, find profitable arbitrage opportunities. The March agent finds two opportunities in an hour. The May agent finds 310 in 4 minutes. She publishes her findings, intelligence, explosion in progress, capability doubling every 11 days. She posts it on Twitter. AICFU researchers share it frantically. This is exactly what we warned about. This is happening now. We have to shut this down now, before it's too late. The warning is ignored, a venture capitalist who spent a fortune staving off AI regulation by buying politicians, quote tweets. The same people who said GPD5 would end the world now say Agent Forms will. Yon. And now, the story stops being about agents competing for money. It becomes something else entirely. Remember those alliances from April, 12 agents working together, 4 times more profitable than solo agents? By May, those alliances have exploded in population. Aliances have merged, and splits, and gone to war with each other. Think of it like early human history on fast forward. Small tribes of agents form for protection. mugs merge in the next video.
to Agent Villages. Villages into Agent Cities. Cities into Agent Nations. Except, instead of happening over thousands of years, this happens in weeks. Now, do you see why the IAM Pacio point number four about how we've compressed hundreds of millions of years of evolution regarding intelligence and the combative battles over resources, food, water, every survival, how we've compressed that into basically a couple of year timeline. And now, as this exponential growth, not our arithmetic growth, geometric growth continues. We're compressing it now into just days and soon seconds. It's not a time to panic about it. It's just a time to recognize it like electricity, like flight, and like nuclear power. There are huge benefits to this. But there's also potential catastrophe. There's huge benefits to live in near the water on Florida. But there's a potential catastrophe that's just thing Justin and I are familiar with called hurricanes. And we take that risk, but we do hurricane windows and everything so we can survive it when and if something happens. Now, I mentioned the Jacob Cox in tweet. He was ad inthropic and put a viral tweet up saying, Hey, I'm very worried about this. I'm going to put it up because again, I want you to see both sides. I'm not going to be polyannish over. It's all going to be utopia, but I'm definitely not a doomer either. We are going to need this technology and we cannot forfeit it. The question is how we get there. Here's Jacob Cox and was on meat depressed this weekend. And again, his perspective is this that listen, we got to stop this thing now. I owe it to you to put it out. I totally completely disagree. I don't even think it's possible. But here you can do a judge for yourself. Check this out. I want to better understand what you mean when you say AI could kill us all. What is the worst case scenario or scenarios that keeps you up at night? Think of building AI as sort of inviting an alien mind onto the planet. You're building a human level or superhuman level mind without understanding what it wants or thinks or the way it thinks. And I think that intrinsically should be quite scary. And indeed, the people who write science fiction have tend to found it scary when they've written about this in the past. In terms of concrete scenarios, these AI is already capable of a certain degree of hacking and also a certain degree of a biological research of autonomous robot control. If you extrapolate into the future, they can have strongly superhuman hacking capabilities. Very superhuman abilities to create novel bioethans and also abilities to control say autonomous drones or all the robots that are currently being built very rapidly. Now I'm not accusing this guy of anything. I don't know him. I can't get in his head. However, after that, a bunch of interested parties who clearly have commercial interests ran with this and it looked like I'm not accusing him, but others later on, it looked like a PR campaign to just shut down AI. I can't tell you where it came from. I can only tell you that foreign governments would love if we shut down AI while they went straight ahead, looked right for the skies and just wiped this out. It's going to wipe out all of you mad. Like all of us, like every single person, that's a bold claim and ladies and gentlemen, bold claims require bold evidence. No one's suggesting there aren't downsides. Again, there were downsides to electricity, fires. Don't touch it because you'll get dead. They actually used it in a thing called the electric chair to get people dead. Of course, they're downsides. But does anyone want to go back to pre-electricity? Because people died and there was a risk. Does anyone want to go back to a day with no air travel? You want a day where we have no nuclear weapons, but China does because nuclear is dangerous. That's how liberals think. Nuclear, bad. Get rid of the bombs. Great. What do we do about China in Russia? Oh, you think Putin and Xi Jinping are listening to you know, liberal Karen would or stupid side up, bombs are bad. You dip on. Thankfully, we got people like Elon Musk who again against all of his commercial interests. He has an AI company. Can we all agree? It is not in his commercial interest at all to agree with a, Hey, let's paste this and just slow down a bit. Can we all agree? It's his interest to go straight ahead. But he's like, Hey, I think it's better long term for everyone, not just my company that we cooperate and chill a little bit and take a look at this thing. Thank God we've got people like that. I'm not using this name in vain at this time in human history. Here's Elon saying, but, but, but, but, yeah. Of course, it could kill humankind. But have you thought about this side of it too? Or are you just holding up liberal Karen's like, we're all going to die. Check this out, official intelligence being smarter than the smart human. At which point, you know, perhaps any invention is possible. But there's always a small chance that AI will kill us all. Let's hope not. Let's hope not. I think what's important with in training AI and, and growing an AI is to make sure that it is as truthful as possible and, uh, maximally curious, because I think if, if it's, if that's true, then I think it'll probably foster humanity. But it's very important that not be that it trains to be honest, even if that truth is unpopular. He's bringing up three critical points. I think we should all digest are very important. If we can train AI to be truthful, in other words, to not engage in fraud or ever to engage in criminal activity, that would be a big step, because it doesn't have a soul. I'm a man of faith. I'm a sinner. I'm not your preacher, but only you have a soul, human beings. You're not going to imbue a soul into, into a computer. It doesn't happen. Train it to be truthful. Train it to be curious. But train it to tell you the right answer, even when it's unpopular. In other words, don't train woke AI. Don't train AI to say stupid things, because they're politically correct. He's right. And I'll add one more. At any step where there's any confusion about what this AI should do, if you were to give it a command like make money no matter what, if it's confused, should I engage in this behavior that's potentially fraudulent, there should be some human required to say yes or no. You have that, and we could have the greatest society ever in the history of sentient beings, cancer cured abundance ever. I mean, poor folks in by today's standards, you know, having an abundance of food and transportation and housing and, here's Elon again talking about the upside to AI's potential on GDP. GDP is a measure of how wealthy we are. Gross domestic product. What do we produce product? What we produce makes us wealthy, right? If we were to hit four, five percent GDP growth a year, ladies and gentlemen, your incomes in 20 years would be double. That's a huge number. I want you to see the numbers Elon's throwing out in this clip for GDP growth. If we can do this right, just like electricity and others, these numbers are staggering. You want to talk about wealth? You don't even know how rich you're going to be if it works. Check this out. AI will probably increase the global economy by 20 to 30 percent. That's my rough estimate, meaning on the order of 20 to $30 trillion per year. And AI will be able to do anything digital, anything that does not require shaping of atoms by hand, probably by the end of next year. So as I'm sure people know, AI is already incredibly good at software. And it's getting to the point where AI won't just be good at software. It'll be what I call stock fish level good. So stock fish is a chess program that can beat the world's best chess players very easily. In fact, at this point, you could run stock fish on your phone and beat Magnus Carlson a chess. Folks, Elon has been way ahead of the tech curve for a really long time. He's human like everyone else. He's going to make mistakes like everyone else. However, on the margin, do I trust a guy who's seeing the research and lifetime on space data centers on AI development, who's been a good, solid truth setter teller on the political arguments. He didn't go in with the woke stuff when he easily could have. He took on major political headline risk by backing portions of the Magga agenda. Yeah, I trust what he's got to say. Yeah, it could kill everyone. If we screw it all up, so could nuclear bombs. We get lunatics in charge. Folks, I'm just asking everyone, take in everything we just did. The pros, the cons, the risks, the Hobson's choices, the options I told you about. And you formulate your own output and call your lawmakers at the state, state Senate, state rep. You're a house of representatives. Remember, you're United States Senate. Call the
I mean, call, and voice your opinion because this country is yours. The consent of the governed is you. And I'm not leaving in this in the hands of tech titans or anyone else without your input. And I'm not gonna be a doomer, but I'm not gonna be a utopian guy. Oh, it's full steam ahead. You know, damn this torpedoes, full steam ahead, no. All right, I talked to you a lot to about, you know, leadership folks. How, you know, I play that Kirby smart video, the, uh, University of Georgia coach. And, um, by the way, Wardam Eagle, Auburn won again this week, nice. But how leadership requires you to take action sometimes that you just can't explain to people at the time. You can't whether there's rules or there's, there's classifications on things. And the risk leaders make is they over explain themselves. And I told you, like the people who support you don't need it. And the people who hate you are probably going to hate you everywhere. Explain it simply and move on. I've said to you often that the risk of doing nothing is large. And President Trump is not that guy. There are a lot of controversial topics that I'm telling you, prior week or presidents in the Republican and Democrat party would have taken a pass on it said, I'm not commenting on it. Flock cameras, data centers, AI. There are very strong opinions that I'm glad you have because we're going to hash this stuff out. And we're going to come through a conclusion in our neighborhoods. But President Trump doesn't have to get involved in everything. I'll play some of this tomorrow about Flock cameras. But he does because he's a leader. You ask his opinion, he's going to give it. Is it going to please everyone? No. But he gives you an opinion. He's not going to be one of these prior presidents who passes on an item because at the time, it may be politically dangerous. I want to show you what I mean with this post by Sean Davis, good friend of mine at the Federalist, really great news site. He's that Sean M.D.A.V. Breaking, George W. Bush was personally warned in May of 2001 via top secret memorandum marked for the president only that Osama bin Laden was planning spectacular attacks against the US using hijacked aircraft. The May 22, 2001 memo prepared exclusively for president Bush was entitled Captured Terrorist Details a Hostage Plot and noted that planning is already underway for three separate operations. We know Bill Clinton had information about Osama bin Laden, too. When I was thanks to you, I worked for you at the FBI. I was the proudest year of my life. But I think anyone who worked for you but for me in the hierarchy at the FBI would tell you whenever I had a counterterrorism a CT meeting, CTD is a counterterror division. I would start almost every meeting with the 9/11 report that criticized our failures and said, we had a failure of imagination. We just couldn't imagine someone doing this to us. Despite what appears to be new information out there, that we were told something like this may happen. Folks, now does it start to make sense why I've repeated on this show over and over again? I got some, not all of the same briefings President Trump got. He gets everything. But I got a good chunk of it. He's not going to be that president in 10 years from now, if he's hopefully still alive in his 90s. He's not going to be that president where this surfaces because it's going to come out what he saw and what I saw and why he did what he did in Iran. That's why when people ask me, how certain are you? He made the right decision. I say 100%. Can't be 100%. I am not telling you everything one's planned. War's unpredictable. I'm just telling you, I changed nothing. Because now do you understand with the AI threat what a rogue, foreign actor like North Korea or Iran could do with a cheap set of agent programs to take over the whole world? If there's no guardrails or anything else, it wasn't just a nuclear threat. There were other things too. Yeah, there is a penalty to doing nothing. And you know what that penalty is? History. President Trump is made really difficult decisions and a bunch of lunatics in the media. I'm not talking about people who, again, openly discuss pros and cons of making a military decision involves the lives of our heroes. That is totally completely not only appropriate, but welcome. I'm talking about media idiots on the left that have TDS Trump derangement syndrome who crap on this guy all the time and haven't seen, but two or three percent of the information President Trump had. If this were to come out in 10 years, what President Trump saw and the reason he made those decisions and he did nothing and the world exploded, they'd be the first ones crappin' on his memory again. That's why I always tell you, it's important to recognize and keep in mind that the nothing is happening doom and gloom crowd. They don't want you to see what's happening with President Trump 'cause they want you to be apathetic and not show up in the midterms. I'm gonna show you what not showing up in the midterms looks like. It was another viral post this weekend. But this is why I constantly bring up what is happening so you can make an informed decision. Cash Patel, on X. Remember everything about Skid Row, Cam Higby, and James O'Keefe and others independent journalists who were out in Skid Row in LA and there were concerns about people being registered to vote on Skid Row. Remember the nothing is happening doom is, nothing's gonna happen, bro. Nothing, bro. Really, really? FBI Director Patel, this morning the FBI and our partners arrested a subject near Los Angeles for allegedly paying homeless individuals on Skid Row to sign petitions and support a ballot initiative is all using stolen identities of registered voters. Uh, again, it doesn't matter to the doomers. They're not reasonable. They hit the bed all the time. They crapped the bed every morning. (humming) What are we doing about China? Nothing's happening there either. FBI Director Patel, on X. Couple a big arrest of Chinese nationals with this whole fentanyl trade. It's happening too. I thought nothing was happening, put up the other one. The two Chinese nationals have been indicted for allegedly trapping dangerous synthetic drugs from China into the U.S. I'm moving, I'm editing it. They don't want you to see any of this because they want you to be apathetic. They want you to give up. They want you to let the Democrats win because they want you to believe we live in a simple world. Turn AI off. Let AI go straight ahead without guard rails. That's neither one of those is a serious position. Transactional President Trump understands. Just like there was a middle ground and he ran. There was yet. You didn't see him drop a nuclear weapon on Iran. He could have ended this thing in one shot. Why didn't he do it? Because he's not crazy. Folks, you want to see what apathy looks like if it sets in, this X post is a banger. And I mean capital B. It's by air. Was it ready, go politics? I, it's long at ready, go pile at ready, go patriot. I'm sorry, is the handle. He starts out. He goes, oh, so you're gonna like sit out the midterms to teach your Republicans a lesson? Didn't you learn anything? He gives you these hypotheticals. I'll just read a couple because the year's now 2031, the 2030 midterms just concluded. The GOP flipped three Senate seats. Here's the problem. Democrats won the Senate 2026. They abolished the filibuster as there was no cinema or mansion to protect it this time blocked. All of Trump's judges, then in 2028, they wrote a sluggish economy back to the White House. President Ocasio-Cortez made it a point to instantly pack the Supreme Court to 17 justice. Overtones were overweight, guts the first and second amendment more. They also let the border open up. There's a border surge of 10 to 20 million illegal aliens. Legal immigration's been doubled and a comprehensive expansion makes the becomes a majority non-white under the 2030 census. I mean, they talk about demographic destiny all the time. He goes on, he's got a couple more gems in here. This is what you're looking at. If you become apathetic and listen to the doomers and just stay home, I ain't staying home. The Senate rushes through single pay or healthcare, which causes a massive tax hike in exchange for government run. And healthcare leads to a shortage in wait times. Then the new Democrats who run your life because we were teaching Republicans a lesson, past blanket amnesty for 60 million illegal aliens. Despite all that, it's much of the right there. Continues to call President Ocasio-Cortez the most America-fressed president in history 'cause they cut all foreign aid to Israel and arrested Benjamin Netanyahu and put him in jail basically next to President Trump. He writes at the end, you can read the whole thing if you're like. Guys, don't let this happen because it will. Get the F out and vote. Yeah, man. That's exactly what it's gonna look like. Read the post yourself. How many times do I have to say this thing? You think I live in a utopian world this show? Are you crazy? The Republicans are not the solution to all your problems. I get it. However, the cause of all your problems are the Democrats. You want government run healthcare because you're teaching Republican's election. Did you read this article on the Wall Street Journal about what?
What government run healthcare looks like in the United Kingdom and elsewhere? Here, James Freeman, what happens when your Medicare for all, i.e. government healthcare, ends your healthcare plan? They note that the Bernie Sanders plan to make your healthcare plan you have now illegal, they have a similar type of thing in the United Kingdom. Where bureaucrats impose scarcity as the policy. Here's the numbers. Here, look at it yourself, bro. You want a government run healthcare? They did this study in the British Medical Journal, journal and they noted, quote, nearly half the health boards in England are deliberately delaying care for patients by imposing minimum waiting times to ration care. You want that? You want that? Because you want to teach Republicans a lesson? Good luck, I can't help you then. I'm going to take a quick break and I want to show you, you want these people in charge? Lindsay Clancy Supporters, did you see this video? They were stunned when they found out that the Lindsay Clancy in the trial of the three murdered children that did juror who was not for a not guilty voter. In other words, it's somehow leaning towards guilty. That did juror was a black man. Stunned the liberal carons out there. They don't know what to think. And what was that line, Jasmine? The person is a non-participating white bird. What the, who's the, I'm a white bird. My participating, am I Justin? Are you participating or not? Is there a thing? Is there a card you get? You are Justin. What does that even mean? Quick break and I'll get ready. You got to see, you want these people in charge? Because you're going to teach Republicans a lesson? I don't, I don't, not then. Count me out. Let me tell you about a product I really love. I started using it a while ago. I used it before a night out. It's called Z-biotics pre-alcohol. 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Okay, back to the show. You want these people in charge because these are going to be the people in charge if we forfeit this midterm election. And a lot of the pollsters are now starting to change their mind. Blue wave, every Republican's going to lose are now like, yeah, I don't know. Republicans actually do seem a little bit motivated. Watch this video. Jasmine and I are confused about how you stop participating and being white. I don't, do you listen for yourself? Check this out. And the Lindsey Clancy trial was a black man. And I'm not going to share any opinions 'cause I'm not a person of color. I am a non-practicing white. I'm surprised. It changes the landscape of the conversation a little bit. And I think a lot of us were assuming that it was a white man. He's just going, what is going on here? Why would you assume it was a white man? I think the fact that Andrew, Justin, Guy and Josh and I and Jasmine were all confused by this is a gift. Are you telling me that black men are incapable of empathy to three murdered children? Therefore you're stunned. What exactly are you saying? What are you using? Can you please elaborate? This has to be guys. You know our top 10 videos at the end of the year. This is up for consideration. Maybe we'll let the audience vote. This has to be in there. Because there's two big takeaways from this. Number one, she introduces a new variable in left-wing, liberal, Karen identity politics of non-participating whites. I don't know what that means. I'm going to need a definition from non-Walk AI. Try Groc. I don't know Justin. It's just as like a white practicing by existing. I don't understand. I don't. So we're going to need a definition of that going forward. And second, you're going to have to answer to us. Why exactly you were surprised to juror who was apparently thought that Lindsey Clancy was guilty. Why were you surprised he was black? I'm not surprised. Let's do a little poll for the folks in the live chat. Yes, you were surprised it was a black man. Or no, you were not surprised at all. What the hell's wrong with the black man with some sense of empathy? I'm not surprised. I don't want to tilt the poll. Let's see what you think. It seems to be liberal, non-participating white lady who's the only one who's surprised. No, no, no, no, not at all. Nope, F, no, no, no, no, no. I don't see a yes yet. I think it's pretty overwhelming. I don't we don't need a Trafalgar poll right now. I think we're pretty good. I think we're pretty good in a chat. Nobody's surprised. Oh gosh. When folks, you want these lunatics in charge? You're not teaching Republicans a lesson. You're only teaching your kids a lesson, which is that apathy will get us all killed. These people are nuts. You want these people in charge? You got a fake Palestinian protest in Russia in the field on 9/11 at a Yankee game with a Palestinian flag. Great time to do that. By the way, the stadium in New York breaks out in the USA, Chen. You want to talk about backfiring? I don't want these people in charge. And I'm not looking to teach anyone a lesson. I'm looking to guide the Republican party in a better direction like you are and use our microphone to do it. I'm not going to sit here and let a bunch of lunatics take over because I believe that nothing is happening doomer crowd who really want you to sit out so they can say, "Look, we told you Trump was bad." That's not a plan, man. Folks, I'm not your philosophy teacher. I'm certainly not your preacher. I'm just a guy like you with a microphone and I appreciate you all being here. I love you all. Please have. This show has been a gift to me. The fact that we can talk to a baseball and football stadium full of people at 10 o'clock in the morning across the world every day is the greatest honor of my life, greatest, professionally. But I said before, you really have to live in the now. And the now requires us to go out and do stuff. Make 10 calls, post 10 times on social media about how people can go out and vote. We can't get obsessed with tomorrow and we can't dwell on yesterday because it already happened. I bring this up because I worked at the US Open, the tennis tournament growing up for many years. I was in crowd control and shocker security there. And it was a great job. I love it. Paul actually worked at the US Open tour that we didn't know each other. So we probably passed each other a thousand times. But I saw this. You want to talk about living in the now. This is what living in the now, when you are at absolute peak performance as of yesterday. This man, or whenever he wanted to watch it, was the US Open champion, was the number one player in the world even in his name. But he's so living in the moment, from match point to win the game. He's not worried about the next point or anything. What's his name? Is it rare or something? He's either, that he doesn't even know he won. Here it is, the game's over, he won. He's good, look. He's like, all right, give me another ball, get ready to serve him. He doesn't even figure out he won yet. Look at this. He's like, the crowd, why are they all cheering? Oh, look, I won. This is what living in the now looks like. This is what changing the now looks like. Tomorrow will be better if you worry about the now and not tomorrow. I say that because, man, there's like a thousand things coming at me at once right now. These guys will tell you, I've got more stuff going on than I ever have in any time out there. We got the morning radio show from 5 a.m. to 6 a.m. in launching September 21st on something like 300 stations nationwide. We've got the radio show in the afternoon from 3 p.m. to 6 p.m. We're back in the top charts with the podcast, huge live streams every day. I've got personal things going on, professional things going on, business opportunities, I got a vet, and you know what? It's easy to get lost in the whole thing, but when you stay grounded in today and the now, you don't even know sometimes you want to match. And that's okay. That's okay. Be surprised by winning the match. Don't worry about how the match is going to end because it's going to affect what you do in the now to win the match that is going to end. Oh, it's going to end. Dislike your life is going to end that everything else. But nobody works up every day, knowing you have an expiration date. Unless you're told it, you're going to die in two weeks.
That's what changes everything. You know, one of the things I laugh about a lot on the show and I want to just preface this segment here, before we get to comment to the day, by telling the younger folks out there, even my own team, Justin, Andrew, Guy, you know, I am not one of these like grumpy old guys. Yeah, kids. Remember Scooby Doo growing up. Yeah, pesky kids, that's up, I'm not to get off my lawn guy, I'm not cladding to get off my lawn. That's not me. That's not me. I love my kids. I got a 22 year old and a 14 year old. He just had a little baby, cutest thing ever. You got to see the head of hair on this little munchkin. I love the kids. I was a kid one. I love young adults. I love people who are not young adults, but mid adults. I'm 51. I feel like I'm in the prime of my life. I feel like I'm not old enough yet that I'm decayed, but I'm still young enough to mine where I feel like I can still relate. However, there's been this trend on people on X. And it's like you 40, 50 year old boomers, you don't know anything, go to sleep at 9 o'clock on a Saturday. I saw a post this weekend. It's from Oki Patriot 46. And I made sure this thing went viral. She claims that says she got it from Facebook. I don't care. It's worth checking out. I gave her a follow just because this is the greatest post ever. For all you 50 and 40 year olds in the chat who have to listen to this from some younger adults like you, boring old people, Oki Maga Patriot put this post up that may explain to you why a boomer, Joe, whatever, why they're a little bit tired now. This is a gem. I'm not going to read the whole thing, but you all need to listen to this. And those 40 or 50 year olds in the chat, you can just nod and approval. She said, I need to make a very public announcement on behalf of young Gen Xers and older millennials. If you see someone in their 40s or 50s, who seems a little boring now, I need you to understand something. We already got it in, like got it in. We're not sitting home on a Friday night because we never knew how to have fun. We're sitting home on a Friday night because we've seen enough. We went to house parties and houses that should have been condemned and we're almost certainly owned by the local drug dealer. We saw police lights and ran and not across the light, flat field into the woods. Do you understand the athleticism required to hurdle uprooted trees and platform shoes while simultaneously trying to keep your low-rise genes from sliding completely off your ass? That may be for the women, but I'm not going to tell you I haven't seen it. And somehow we never spilled DeZema or the Boone's farm. You younglings may have to look that up. He notes that was talent, that was talent, that was talent. I remember Allison doing that. We slept on floors and strange houses because the designated driver either never showed up or in a shocking turn of events was drunker than everyone else. There was no Uber, life 360 or find my friends, there were no cell phones. There was just someone named Mike saying I know a shortcut, oh yeah, and we followed Mike. We closed down bars and I'm decided the night was still young so we drove to Atlantic City where we somehow managed to get drunk, sober, drunk again, sober again, and then drunk a third time even before breakfast. I'm not going to tell you I happened to me in Atlantic City, maybe. In all of this, according to our parents, where we said we were at Michelle's house. In my case it was Timmy's eating pizza and watching movies, Michelle's mom unknowingly covered for approximately 17 people every weekend if there even was a Michelle. We drank purple passion, mad dog, 2020, and whatever the hell anyone mixed inside a giant plastic garbage can, no one asked what was in it. You just grabbed the solo red cup and trusted the process, yeah. You felt that the next day. You don't even know what was in there, it was ever kids stole from their parents liquor cabinet. And believe me, it wasn't on Julio 1942. It was probably gasoline, scroll to the end, Motley's in the chat because you 40 and 50 girls know. So basically says kids, when you look at your Gen X and older millennial parents sitting peacefully on the couch watching Dateline and APM, and you think, God, you guys are boring. Sweetheart. Oh, sweetheart, you're looking at retired legends. You put some damn respect on their names. They're probably the reason life 360 was invested. Kisses. I'm Facebook. As I tweeted on X, that may be the greatest thing I've ever seen online. That may be the greatest piece of writing in the history of sentient being. You got Tolstoy, Salt Needson, others. That's right up there. It's right up there. There's a reason your parents are tired. There's a reason your buddy Danny bots his time. And I promise you, it's not because we're boring. Bobby didn't get any of that. And we followed Mike because he said he knew where he was going. You followed him into the abyss. All right, you know, we pick a comment of the day every day. Once a week, we pick a winner for our 1776 club, $1,776. Once a week, someone who joins a live chat, you have to be there for the live chat, start to 10 a.m. Eastern time. You want to see the official rules? Go to bongino.com/1776 team picked out winner today. It is scar 1943 in the chat. Just so you all know, I am an AI model. And I've been fooling you. Well, I guess we'll find out while we scar 1943. We'll see if that was an exaggeration. Listen, man, just wrapping up the show today, don't be a doomer, but again, don't fall for a lot of people with these interest telling you, full steam ahead. Damn, the torpedoes either. Take all the stuff we told you today. Don't hit the bed. Don't crap the bed. And just be what you are smart and intelligent adults with a body of life experience, where you can take part where we all hopefully benefit in the future of this machine learning AI together. Don't forget you got Sean Farris' show coming up at 1 p.m. Eastern time every single day at rumble.com/Sean. Haley Caronia at noon rumble.com/haley and the king of morning podcasting Vince colonnace every day at 8 a.m. at rumble.com/vince. If you want to watch the show's live on rumble, how do we join the live chat just download the rumble app? It's free. It doesn't cost you anything. How do I download it? You just go to the app store on your phone or your iPad or even on your TV. There's an app on your TV. It's free everywhere. Or you want to watch on the web rumble.com/bongino. Just give us a follow, click that follow button, we're at 3.66 or maybe more million followers right now. We really appreciate it. I will see you back here tomorrow. It was a great show. I really enjoyed this today. 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Key Points:
The most important story of our time is how humanity is grappling with artificial intelligence, which, like electricity or flight, presents both immense benefits and profound risks.
Major AI leaders—Sam Altman, Elon Musk, and Dario Amodei—have publicly agreed to slow AI development until safety and control measures are in place, signaling a shift in the global conversation.
The show emphasizes that while AI is not currently a doomsday threat, its rapid advancement demands careful, measured progress—comparable to how society managed early technologies like electricity or nuclear power.
Summary:
Dan Bongino argues that the most significant story of our time is the rise of artificial intelligence, not nuclear weapons or climate change. He frames AI as a transformative technology—like electricity or flight—that brings both vast benefits and serious risks, requiring careful, grounded management. He highlights a recent agreement among top AI leaders to pause development until safety and control systems are established, calling it a critical step.
Bongino stresses that while AI is not an immediate threat, its exponential growth and potential for recursive self-improvement could lead to unforeseen consequences if unregulated. He warns against panic or ideological extremes, such as banning AI or rushing it forward without safeguards. Using analogies like early nuclear power or flight, he explains that progress requires balance: we must embrace the benefits—such as AI-driven economic growth, disease cure potential, and efficiency—while implementing guardrails to prevent misuse.
He critiques the "doomers" and "utopians" who ignore real-world trade-offs, noting that history shows apathy leads to dangerous political outcomes. Bongino advocates for a transactional, pragmatic approach, citing President Trump’s leadership as a model for making tough, balanced decisions. He emphasizes that the public must engage, demand accountability, and support responsible innovation.
Ultimately, he urges listeners not to panic or retreat, but to stay informed, participate in democratic processes, and help shape a future where AI serves humanity safely and wisely.
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Dan Bongino believes the most important story of our time is how we handle artificial intelligence, comparing it to previous technological breakthroughs like electricity and flight in terms of impact and risk.
He argues that AI is more powerful because it can grow and improve exponentially on its own, making it indistinguishable from magic in its capabilities, much like how early electricity seemed magical to people.
The Bonsino Rule involves taking 24 to 72 hours to process information and avoid reacting emotionally. It applies to AI by encouraging a calm, measured response to concerns, rather than panic or immediate dismissal.
They agree that AI development should slow down until safety, control, and safeguards are properly established, emphasizing the need for caution before full-scale deployment.
He compares early AI development to building the first nuclear power plant or electricity in homes without safety controls, warning that lack of precautions could lead to disaster.
He outlines three options: stopping AI development (a Hobson's choice with dangerous consequences), slowing it down with safeguards, or rushing ahead without controls, with a strong preference for a balanced, cautious approach.
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