The Morning Stretch and Fold: Tuesday, October 20th, 2026

♪ Good morning, girlies, it's the Toast. It's Jackson, Claude, and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's the Toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to the Toast and happy Tuesday. Hope everybody had an amazing Monday. We did. As amazing as it could be. Yeah, I had a great Monday. Productive, we got a little mage on. Did I have an amazing Monday? No. Why was that? But I'm just like, what happened to me yesterday? You had lunch. I did. Oh, I did. I had a nice lunch. Yeah, it sounded nice. And I get my nap in, which is always devastating, but you know what we're looking like today? Nap? No, me and you. Twins? The few. The proud. The Marines. We are. Because we're both in Navy. We are the Navy. We didn't even coordinate. No, we didn't. Yesterday we wore pink, yesterday we wore blue. It's giving gender reveal. It's giving simpatico. Like, just the vibes are the same. Like, I knew yesterday, fun and flirty. Today I just wanted to be a little cozier, casual, running around energy. Actually, I made a very intentional choice with my shirt today. I'm obviously wearing Taylor Swift merch. I just feel like we have so many clips go viral. Like, Taylor is chronically online. Like, she's maybe seen a clip of ours and I'm not wearing her merch. Oh, is that your new strategy? Merch every day? Like, of people I want to get attention from. Like, tomorrow, Joe Manganiello t-shirt. You know what I mean? No, I don't think you want his attention. No, you guys know I'm, like, so off of him. And he has been replaced by my celebrity crush. Joe Jonas. Yeah, he's, like, back on. It's exclusively Joe's. John Joe. You love Joe's. Yeah, but John Mayer was my celebrity crush for, like, a decade. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's kind of coming back. But now you're in your Joe era. I'm in my Joe era. And we need to start wearing more merch, letting people know who we're fans of. Well, I'm fans of Roback. Well, I'm a fan of Turdback. Of course. But when you can't get Turdback. But my Turdback mock neck was dirty, so I had to wear my Roback one. When you think about how far and wide our clips go, I don't feel like we're utilizing our wardrobe enough. Like, yesterday I wore Fifi, so of course the Acquireds know I'm a fan, but they already know. Exactly. Like, you just never, especially with TikTok, I know you don't, like, engage, but so many celebrities are on there. They just scroll. They, like, talk about how much they scroll. So it's like, we could be on their feeds, Jack. Okay, okay. I'll think about that. Yeah, next time you put on an outfit together. Yeah, like maybe my Bruno Mars concert t-shirt. That's the other thing. I don't really have, like, a lot of merchandise. I have a lot. Whenever I go to a concert, I like to buy one thing to remember the fact that I went to that concert. Yeah, even when I buy it, it just, like, mysteriously disappears. I have a Billy Joel shirt. I don't feel like he's scrolling TikTok, you know. I've got Taylor merch, and I've got Luke merch, and I just feel like Luke knows how I feel about him. Luke couldn't really know more. I need to get some Joe Jonas merch. Jonas Brothers? Just, like, get his attention. Maybe a low-cut V-neck tee. Yeah. Hey, Joe, how you—oh, you know what I did last night? I watched football. We used to get back in our football era. We do. I felt like—I totally forgot that it was football, like, and I forgot that I was a 49ers fan. And let me tell you, it was such a great time to be a 49ers fan. They're literally so good. I actually felt bad watching the game because they were, like, beating the other team so badly. And they're undefeated. And I think there's only one other team undefeated in the league. Don't quote me on this. I think the Chiefs are undefeated. And I feel like—it's, like, I've watched one game, so I can make a prediction. This is my official. It's going to be the Chiefs— Niners. Niners again. I love that. Yeah, especially, like, I don't think that the Eagles were going to win this year. But Jalen Hurts is out. We're discussing Jalen Hurts tonight. Oh, are we? So much drama at Successful Savings. So I really feel like it might be the Niners' year. And I was like, okay, maybe I would go, even though, like, I'll probably not be able to. It's in L.A. Like, I'm not going to that. It's in L.A.? It's so fine. Wasn't it just in L.A.? No, I thought the same thing. No, L.A. just played— Is that so fine? I don't know. I don't— That's surprising. I feel like it was just there. LXV or whatever. Yeah, like the year Harry was born. Yeah. Interesting. Last night I had an interesting experience that I think you'll really appreciate. So I've been just doing some online shopping, as I do. It's so unlike you. As I do. And I was actually going to return something, shockingly. That's so unlike you. Yeah, that's the surprising part. I've been buying, like, a bunch of, like, ceramics and stuff. And one thing I got, like, was really too big. And it was still, like, in the box in the packaging. So I didn't have to worry about how am I going to ship it back. So I was like, you know what? I'm going to do the responsible thing, and I'm going to return it. And I went to the website to fill out the return form. And they were like, you know, it's kind of a hassle to return. They had this, like, automated policy. They were like, would you just want, like, a partial refund and you can keep the item? Because it's, like, more sustainable for you to not send this back. Name the website, first of all. I'm not—I'll tell you, but I don't want to put them on blast. Because then people will start, like, ordering stuff. Taking advantage. And I don't want people to take advantage. Because, yeah, it makes sense. Like, it is a hassle for them to restock. And it's not, like, this huge expensive thing. So bad for the environment. So I bought the thing for $160. They offered me $40 to keep it. Wait, they offered you—so, like, you would have ended up paying $120 for the item? Yes. It's not an amazing offer. I considered it, but I really did not need this ice bucket. And I wanted—like, I went through with the refund. But I thought that was really interesting because, yeah, like, sometimes refunds cost more than they're worth. A thousand percent. And I appreciate— But stores, like, having a policy such as that. But for me, when it comes to online shopping, the returning of the item is obviously about getting my money back. But it's getting the shit out of my house. Like, because I'm a sweeper. I want the boxes out. So it only solves a problem. I thought you were going to say that I've seen some websites doing now is, like, okay, I want to return this sweater. They're like, okay, you can return it to your original form of payment, five to seven businesses, yada, yada, yada. For—you bought it for $100, we'll give you $100 back. Or we'll give you $110 in a store credit. Yeah. Which is interesting. I never do it. It depends on the store. If it's, like— Amazon, yeah. I'm spending $110 tomorrow. Did I have an amazing time shopping at your website? Like, do you have other things to offer me? Or, like, was this whole thing a mistake? I just, like, saw it on an ad. I'll never see you again. Yeah. Yeah. Have you done Amazon returns where, like, you literally get your money back before the box leaves your house? Yeah. And then classic me. I never actually return the item. And then they charge you in, like, six months. They charge me again. A thousand percent. That just happened with this high chair because I thought it came in the wrong color. I ordered, like, one of those high chairs that clips to the bar. Love. And I wanted, like, an oatmeal color. And it arrived in the box. The exterior was black. And I was like, ugh, they sent the wrong one. So we, like, put it in the corner, did the return, got the money. And then I think people were coming over. We're like, we really need to use that high chair. And we took it out. And it was oatmeal after all. Yeah. Amazon's really got it going on, especially with their codes. Because, like, sometimes when I can't return anything, it's like, I opened it. How am I supposed to, like, for example, like an air mattress or something. Like, when you take something out of the box, how do you get it back? Sometimes it can't go back in the box. Some of these porcelain figures, like, I've already taken off the bubble wrap. Like, I can't reship it. So then with their, like— Like, Whole Foods drop off. And, like, you don't even need the original packaging. They're living in the future. And that's why you're never going to catch me saying a crossword about Jeff Bezos, honestly. He makes it so easy to get my money back. So I like this new policy. Very eco-friendly and customer-friendly. And only if you're doing it in earnest. Oh. Not just trying to, like, steal $40. $40? Something you would appreciate from the basketball game last night. And by basketball, of course, I mean football. I was like, the intramural? Yeah, our husbands do play in it. It's so funny. Ben always says, like, when I come home from Mahjong, he can, like, tell by the way I close the door. Like, if I want— I don't know if I lost because, like, it's, like, all over my face. He doesn't even realize he's so— I could tell. I'm like, how was it? And when he has a good time and he plays really well, he says, they made me their leader. And when he's like, it was fine. And last night it was fine. I'm like, oh, so you stunk. Like, you stunk. But no. You stunk up the court. And then he took my husband to McDonald's. Did he tell you that? He did tell me that. So they carpooled to the basketball game, intramural league. To the basketball game, their pickup game. And I always tell Ben, I'm like, can you hustle home? Because, like, sure, stay out all you want. But, like, I can't go to sleep until I know everyone in my house is in my house. Like, so it's just the later he comes home, the later I go to sleep. It's just, like, a thing that I have. So he's, like, texting me. He's like, your car is almost out of gas. Let me get you gas. I'm like, okay, that's actually sweet. I won't be mad. And then he was like, well, also I have to take my wife to McDonald's. And I was like, really? And I'm like, that's so crazy to, like, work out at basketball and then eat McDonald's. Like, that's something literally only a man would do. And Ben was like, yeah, and I was thinking, like, of maybe getting you something. But, like, sometimes—and it's true. Like, you really can't predict me. Sometimes Ben will come home with food, and I'm like, why did you get me that? And then sometimes he'll come home with nothing. I'm like, what's wrong with you? So he made a game-time decision to not—it's good. First of all, I can't eat that late because of my acid reflux. And two, like, I don't know. There's a time and a place for McDonald's. That wasn't it. But it was good to know. Do you know what your husband got? He got the Koji special. Like, literally, the Koji order. What did he get? Ten-piece nugget, large fries, large fry, Coke, McFlurry. Like, that's Koji in an order. Well, I was in the kitchen right before I was going to bed. Did he eat it in the car or brought it home? He brought it home. And I shouldn't have been up, but I was feeding my starter. Of course. And he walked in with McDonald's. I would have never known because I would have been in bed. He would have eaten downstairs and, like, never told me. And I was like, why do you have McDonald's? He was like, Ben took me. I was like, did Ben get anything? And he was like, no. Ben took me. That's, like, actually crazy that it's, like, placing blame on Ben. He was like—no, and then he also placed blame on me because he was like, I didn't have dinner because I guess I didn't, like, make dinner for him because I made for the kids. And he had picked me up a salad early in the day, so that's what I ate. I think you were taken care of. So, like, I guess, yeah, you didn't eat dinner, but that's a you problem. Seriously. And he—so he got McDonald's, like, for himself. I'm like, why you got to be so fat? You know what it sounds like? It sounds like Zach and I need to go to McDonald's on Patreon. It does sound like that. And it smelled really good, but it was, like, late. I wasn't even remotely interested in that. McDonald's is so particular. Like, the time, the place, and the quality control. They're not all equal. I don't know which one they went to. I'll have to try it for myself, maybe in the Patreon. Check it out, my local McDonald's. But I was— Oh, it smelled good. I think he got the new fangled McFlurry. Well, McDonald's never smells bad. Like, that's the thing. That's true. It smells so good. Yeah. He got—the McFlurry's not what it used to be. Sorry, what I was going to say is that the football game, you know, Christian McCaffrey's on the 49ers, Olivia Colbo's husband. And there was another player on the other team. It was the Washington Commanders with the last name McCaffrey. I'm like, oh, that's funny. It was his brother. Like, I feel like when we talk about brothers in the NFL, we were talking about the Kelseys. But no, they're also the— McCaffrey's okay and I think the brother was good because he kept popping up on my screen like cute doing stuff yeah it's really cute also I brought a friend to work today I know you did you guys want to see what I brought to work Jackie brought a living breathing organism to the toast today and it is whore whore what do you dough I brought my sourdough loaf that I'm working on so it's not a baked loaf if you're watching if you're listening as audio you might think she brought like a bowl of raw dough with a towel over it I'll give you guys a sneak peek do you mind if I just get a stretch and fold in I don't mind I just need to go wet my hands oh I do mind now it's like a whole thing like sit down here it's like the point there's some seltzer in here wet your hands no no it's like it I'll do it later if you really want to you know we have a job to do that's the point of why I brought it so I like I said I was feeding my starter all right give it to me I'll do it when I'll show you wait hold on let's do a demonstration you just like we always love to do this is so morning this is so morning show but I was feeding my starter last night that's why when Zach walked in I was I knew I wanted to make bread today we're like out of bread there's like a stomach bug going around is there enough for two there are two if you will let me go wash my hands and do a stretch well no you have to let me do the stretch and fold this is like well then you have to wash your hands I'm not having no okay fine not only do I wash my hands well let's go take a hand washing break and you have to wash them with soap and water and then keep them wet they need to be wet for this never mind like just do it later this is too much work so I started my loaf this morning I got like two reps in obstruction folds I'm like it really needs a third um and like is anyone home that could do it for you like Zach no I should I should teach him how to do it sometimes I do the show and then I go home I get one more in it's like a little late but it's always fine the bread is always party the bread is always my own boss what's stopping me from doing it here you dirty let me go do it let me go oh my god let me go you'll be glad because nobody loves the bread more it's true I have been like craving bread I guess we'll just I'm always craving bread okay all right she just went and um if you're listening as an audio only I will I have to hold the wet rag okay I will narrate she has a manicured hand oh dough looks kind of sticky uh the bottle bowl is rattling she's stretching the top oh and folding it it's just as described stretch and the dough just does look like the back of my thighs like that's crazy the same color the same texture the same consistency um that's two how many how many gonna do four so this is the third oh speaking of you know who I got a dm from oh me too ballerina farm and when the conversation was ending she was like and you know congrats on baby number two you're amazing and I'm like seriously it's patronizing like you have nine babies like I was like thanks like I felt like I had so little babies yeah I literally felt like I had so little babies I was like thanks this is gonna change this is gonna be the breast bread we ever had the breast bread wow it really looks like my body that's crazy you are what you eat true all right is that done beautiful everyone clap for Jackie that's really clap if you care clap if you care um okay so that was your Tuesday morning stretch and fold she's gone with the wind again oh she's going to wash her hands again okay so um I guess we don't have to cut this part but we could just like cut this part and we could just like cut this part and we could just like cut this part and we could just like let everyone know she's washing her hands this is just like deeply unprofessional but it's fine and we'll wait for her to return honey down we're gonna have a good time a dozen hands up to the sky she's back we gonna get toasted tonight okay you feel better your shirt is all wet it keeps being all wet and then keeps drying okay um that's a good thing I wear a sweatshirt that's your Monday morning Tuesday morning stretch and fold yeah we needed that thousand percent so if you've been thinking about getting on a sourdough do it and at ballerina farm speaking of she's like the she's a place to start yeah my bread is a descendant of her starter willa that's beautiful yeah people name their starters I actually haven't named mine which is so unlike me so unlike you okay let's think starter is like yeast right yeah it's like a living organism so they'll name it like Betty or like just like a random name yeast infection but I don't know I just haven't which is just so not like me like who am I I know like an opportunity to give a nickname and you passed it up that's very unlike it I'll think about it more maybe I'll start something sound off in the comments what's your Jackie name well the people like Jackie Doe oh no like the toast yeah it's honestly just like too easy all right but you know what sound off in the comments top comment gets pinned yeah that's right Joe so you have a crush on it yeah but my celebrity crushes are ever changing who's your celebrity crush I feel like I asked you this and you're like I didn't have one who's my celebrity crush right now I feel like I've graduated from celebrity crushes and now I have celebrity sons you okay I'm having deja vu you said that the last time right because that's how I feel about something like I feel like can like a love for a warmth for them but it's not a crush no that's great can you it's a mother you just like search deeper to find a celebrity crush like who's a celebrity you think is hot like oh my like handsome oh and sorry I meant to say um Belmont Camelli is also my celebrity crush like maybe more so than Joe Jonas just it's a tie so someone I find handsome yeah like a truck a attractive if you had to kiss them you would be okay who was I just saying is so attractive I was just saying someone let me think let me think let me think what are you watching that like I was just saying someone's so attractive I have no memory of you saying that you guys who did I say was attractive I remember I was saying like textbook attractive are you talking to yourself no yeah the toasters will remember let me know who I think is attractive and if any of the stories today if I if I think someone's attractive I'll be sure to let you know I love that I'll be searching for a celebrity crush in the stories okay what's what happened in the world today like what who could you possibly find attractive oh someone who's in the stories is like a former celebrity crush I just don't really keep up with him anymore Jason Segel that oh yeah first of all that's an amazing celebrity crush even though like not so much anymore it's like I don't know what he's doing he just got he's on drinking do you watch drinking no I tried and I think that's when he's stopping my crush because I was like we're so different yeah it's a good show though I didn't like it oh you didn't no I haven't like really had like a crush on him since his heyday which is fine of course it's like kind of like basic it is I feel like you also had a crush on Vince Vaughn yeah he's just a little old for me but he's the same if you like Jason Segel you'll like I also think I don't know if you've ever said this or even realize it on a conscious level but I think subconsciously you also think like Owen Wilson is cute just because you like love his work oh really I've never thought that of anything I'm more of a Luke girl I mean we're all Luke girls like let's be real but I like Owen Wilson no I I would find like in terms of like actually spending time with him I think I would think he's annoying oh really I think that like you would hate like Jason Segel you would hate all these people but you actually would get along with Owen Wilson like beneath the surface you think I'm so silly goofy yeah put it in a blender that is my favorite bit I'm telling you you would like um yeah maybe like any comedians that I think are because I like personality that's why it's hard for me to just like judge based on looks because if you're let me like let me think if you're ugly yeah exactly I hate you yeah me too I really don't care what I do have a very superficial side of myself where it's like I can hold space for the fact like you are really cute and I've honestly never heard Belmont Camelli like speak outside of Garrett Graham which really works for my crush but I did see him at the LACMA Academy thing doing interviews and he was being funny so I'm like okay that's my funny king right there cute we know Joe Jonas has like an amazing personality he's a jokester like what do you like you know who else is like a bit of a celebrity crush for a number of reasons I'm not sure I'm not like Elon because he's right so smart like that would be interesting to me and he's so rich and like I could have a flying car but after reading his you wouldn't have a flying car you just have a car that after reading his book I sort of moved on because like he's very toxic in relationships and like oh yeah I find that unattractive of course and do you also find like being one of multiple baby mothers unattractive yeah yeah I kind of want to be like a one and only but I'm special like that's what it's so like not an entire fit yeah me yeah and I also think like when we talk about like you know getting down to brass tacks like sitting and having a conversation like you two would like I don't think he's like an amazing conversationalist I think it's he's more of a monologuer but I'm a good listener that sounds like genuinely the worst relationship ever look at me and you we we talk equal we talk equal maybe like 60 40 we talk equal I swear um so yeah someone really smart like someone really funny would be interesting to me someone really smart like yeah is the smartest person in the world yeah that's interesting to me and richest also interesting I definitely find money interesting yeah to be clear none of my celebrity crushes are poor no but are they rich enough for you well that's the thing the the finances of the Jonas Brothers is constantly being called into question um Belmont Camelli it's like kind of a starter he's got a couple of brand deals on one successful show that's obviously doesn't make a life um yeah I have to step my pussy up like financially when it comes to my you do because like that's why I love Jeff Bezos like that's my king right there that's like probably the only man in the world who could like truly afford me you think so and Elon could afford you but he's so cheap no he's so cheap he like sleeps on couches yeah no he like I don't even think he has his own plane like please oh even talk to me that is right you have a line flying commercial he definitely has his own rocket that's like he's not of interest to me no no but he definitely has a plane I don't think he flies commercial and I don't think he charters I don't think he goes anywhere that's what I think like I don't think it's an issue of means like I don't think he leaves the state yeah you know interesting and if he does like it's like because someone's bringing and or like his butterflies yeah all right let's dive in well we'll continue this conversation throughout the show without further ado it is time for the fast five stories that you to do need to know and the fast five stories that you need to know are brought to you by velvet caviar the holidays are coming up this time of year can be so stressful The last thing we want to be worried about is our phone. 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Rock Nation, like, his company. It's, like, the whole thing. Yeah. Word on the street is that he is going to choose himself as the headliner. He has been overseeing the halftime show since 2019, and now it's being reported that he will headline in 2027. Other people who were in the running, rumored, were Miley. She's always in the running. Even though I feel like she's kind of ineligible based on what's going on. We haven't even talked about. That's our next story. Okay, her run at the Hollywood Bowl. People are, like, very upset with her performances. Yes. Harry Styles, I guess. Yeah, that could have been a good choice. And Justin Bieber, we discussed. He would have been a good choice. But it's looking like. Why Jay-Z? Curious to see if he would have any guests with him, like Beyonce. I mean, of course he would, because I. Obviously, I know Jay-Z's songs, but when I heard this news, I just Googled, like, what are Jay-Z's top hits? All of them. Empire State of Mind, which is Alicia Keys. People in Paris with Kanye, even though I don't think he's going to bring out Kanye. Run This Town with Rihanna. Numb Encore with Linkin Park. 99 Problems is widely regarded as one of his best songs, and it's the only, like, solo song on this list. The rest, yeah, like, it's good. It's giving, um, features, you know? Yeah. Also, he'd probably bring out some rock nation artists. Oh, yeah. Oh, and of course, Beyonce. Crazy in love. Beyonce, Rihanna, J. Cole, Megan Thee Stallion. They should do, like, Beyonce and Jay-Z halftime show. Like, that would be good for the swirlies, like, for everyone. I don't think she wants to do a halftime show. No, and also, like. I think she would do one song for her husband. I get the vibe she doesn't like being seen in public with him. Like, I don't know why she's always doing things by herself. No, but, like, if you're doing a halftime show, like, you're dedicating the next six months to the halftime show. I know. And you're getting in biting shape. Like, it's a whole thing. You have to be an artist. You have to be an athlete. Um, you can come out and sing one song that's different. But I don't think she wants to do a halftime show. And it's not even her own whole show. But she did do that halftime. What was it? The Thanksgiving show? Yeah. This ain't sexist. That was really good. Mm-hmm. Um, so she could just, like, maybe revamp that. Like, do it bigger and better. Like, you have to rehearse. Now, I just want to say, there's nothing wrong with this choice. Like, Jay-Z is a very popular artist. Uh, him, like, being in charge of the show and putting himself on it, it's very Terry Lou Freebush coded. And I think it's funny. Um, and it just is more in line with what we've been saying. That, like, since he took over, like, he's not doing it for the pop girlies. Like, all the people we wanted, like, Miley, Kelly Clarkson, Pink. Like, it's never happening. Um, so as far as choices go, like, this isn't that bad. Like, all the songs. But it really depends on who he brings. Mm-hmm. Which is such a bad place to be in. Like, you want people to show up for you. Yeah. And, like, if he's just singing solo songs, I'm afraid I'm personally not familiar. No. I don't think he's going to sing a lot of solo songs. I think he's going to sing the hits that everybody knows. Maybe there'll be a couple that you don't know. But, like, for the most part, it's going to be forever. Like a medley of artists. Yeah. Fine. Then it's like a little festival. Yeah. Well, it's not even confirmed yet. I don't know. Oh, really? I saw it being reported, like, as confirmed. I'm seeing it as reported. Oh, that's confusing. It's reports of reports. Reportedly. Well, like, whatever. I feel like, like, it's not Taylor. So, seriously, I don't care. You know? Yeah. Like, if it's not going to be Taylor, Luke Holmes, or, like, Kelly Clarkson, choose whoever. Like, I seriously don't care. They should do a Dancing with the Stars halftime show. That's an amazing idea. Yeah. And a great segue into our next story. Or, like, oh, yeah. As, um, as the performer performs, like, maybe the dancers are there, too. It doesn't only have to be Dan. Yeah, the same way, like, other performers bring out DCC. Yeah. Like, you could bring out Dancing with the Stars. Speaking of dancing, have you seen at all Tame McRae's new, like, era that just launched? No. No. She, um, has a new song. That's what she sang at the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show. Which song? It's called Housewife. Oh. I just want to make a lot of money, be my own housewife. And the music video is, like, her doing, you know, her crazy-ass dancing, like, in all these different settings. People are eating it up. She's, like, very TikTok. So, I've seen it all on TikTok. Like, people gobble, gobble, eating it up. And it's just, like, first of all, it sounds like every other Tame McRae song ever. And I just don't understand. Like, and I know it's her thing. But, like, why can't she stop dancing? Like, just. No, because she's a great dancer. Hey, but why can't she stop dancing enough to, like, perform? Like, she is a singer. She's not a dancer. No, no. I think. Her dancing is crazy. Like, it's actually. I think it's too much. I think, actually, she's a dancer. Well, then. And that's why. Yes. A thousand times. And that therein lies the issue. Therein lies the issue. So, if you want me to listen to the music, it's not going to happen. I'll watch it, though. You know, have I told you about the Swiftologist? Mm-mm. He's like this young guy. He's like a music critic. I don't know what his qualifications are except for the fact that I agree with everything he says. And he reviews obviously Taylor Swift but like all the pop divas. He's really obsessed with pop music. And he like has a hard on for Tate McRae. And his critiques of her are so valid. Like she has nothing to say. That's always what she says. And it's like she's competing. She's a he? A she? No, he was talking about Tate McRae. It's a he. Oh, okay. He's like a young gay boy. I love him. Like he's so cute. And he's so smart. Like everything he says, he rips Taylor too. He's not just like so biased. Oh, I need to see. He's just one of the only people he has like personal beef with Ed Sheeran. Like Ed Sheeran likes posts about him like that are negative. Like he is not afraid to like say the unpopular thing because everyone's like this is amazing. Like eat, eat, eat. And it's like well actually it's not. And let's talk about it. And he releases his really long like I think he's reading from a teleprompter because he's very smart too. I love him. And so he just sort of like read Tate McRae to filth in the most recent review that I saw. Can I see it? Yeah. It's like what are we doing here? I've never heard of him. Really? I feel like I've told you about him. No. Maybe if I showed you a video of him. He sounds like a truth teller. He is. Like he doesn't give a fuck. The Swiftologist. And does it have anything to do with Swift? He loves Taylor. Okay. But like he is the first one. Like he was not here for. Maybe I've seen him because there's one person who once gave a good criticism that I saw. Here one day I go. Yes. I've seen him. I just watched Chapel and Olivia. They're kind of the same age, right? Like they came up in the same. Tate Slop has returned. Crack him. I have seen him. I sent you his videos once. Yeah. No, he's really. Wait, wait. But I want to see Tate. It seems artistically when I think about like who has something to say out of the Gen Z pop girls, I don't know what Tate McRae wants to say. I think Tate just wants to serve. And you know what? In the pop star ecosystem, we need to have that. We need to have someone that just wants to serve. Tate is really still functioning off of that like old pop star model. Being a slay queen, girl boss, glorification of capital. It's a boat. It's money. I think you wouldn't find Chapel or Olivia doing that for a specific reason. They aim a little bit higher in intention. I think they want their music. I think they want their music to like do something in the world, right? I don't think that Tate McRae really wants to do something with her music. And that's not wrong. But when we're assessing the quality of what the girls are putting out, it's algorithm music. It's not hyper slop because again, I think it's Tate slop. That's a great. It's algorithm music. Like it's just like music. Yes. And it all sounds the same. And it's like to what end? Yeah. I love him. Like I feel like a lot of my takes like are regurgitated of his. Oh, that's so funny. Because like he'll say something and I'm like, yeah, that is true. I once saw a video of his. Maybe it was about Taylor. And I think I sent it to you because I thought it was so on the nose. I didn't know what else he did. But I was like, no, he's obviously like a huge Taylor Swift fan, but he's not afraid to like be honest, which I love. Yeah. That's refreshing. Yeah. How do we get here? Tate McRae dancing. Just music. Okay. Yeah. I think just dancing Tate McRae. The dancing to Tate McRae pipeline. But speaking of dancing, Dancing with the Stars reported that Kariana Naba actually complained about Val slap joke straight to the higher ups, which is what resulted in his suspension. And he unfollowed Alan Burstyn and Emma on Instagram yesterday. Val. Yes. Alan, who is replacing him just for the week. And his girlfriend, Emma, who is Jackson Savannah Bananas partner. Yeah. They've both been unfollowed. Interesting. So I'm not like really liking what I'm hearing. Me neither. Now, Karianne, I just feel like I don't know why I feel so like I have to defend Karianne. No, no. Karianne, like seriously, what he posted and everyone's reaction to like what she said, giving her her judgment because she is a judge that she is right to feel like, what are you guys doing? Like, this is the show. Don't talk poorly about me like that. Don't talk disrespectfully to me. And I'm doing my job. And so she's right to complain about it because the way that everyone's behaving is like not right. And everyone needs to keep a lid on it. I'm fresh. I'm like annoyed that he got suspended, that it's become such a big thing. But she's not wrong to be like, everyone stop. Like, we're going to judge and you're going to take it. That's what you're going to do. You're going to fucking like it. And you're going to say, thank you, Karianne. A hundred percent. I just feel like even this report and the way it's being reported is like more victim blaming on Karianne. Like, I don't know. I feel so weirdly. It's unprofessional what the dancers have done and Val took it to a next level of unprofessionalism. But this is a workplace. You're not going to go and complain about me on the internet. You're not going to go and pull faces. And like, it could be a threat. Yeah. You're not going to pull. Oh, also could be a threat. You're not going to pull faces on the show. Make me seem like I'm being overly critical. No, like be a professional. Everyone has gotten a little too personal here. Agreed. I know they all date each other and they're all related and they're all married, but this is a workplace and I have a job to do. It's also not about the pros. And so now I feel like Jenna and Val, Jenna Johnson, they're a duo. So like she's getting hate now too. But it's like, you're taking away votes from your partners. And it's like, it's literally not about you. You're supposed to be completely neutral. You're really not supposed to contribute votes or subtract votes. You're just supposed to dance. And so now Val is hurting Jenna Dewan. And I think that Jenna Johnson is hurting Harry Shum's chances because the fans are crazy and they won't vote and they'll start petitions and they'll get you voted off. Like they got Guillermo voted off. So it's like, you're actually not only not doing your job, you're doing a disservice to your partner. And if I'm one of your partners, I'm fucking annoyed. Like if I'm Jenna Dewan, I want to dance with Alan. Like I want to be neutral. Leave me out of this. Like I have my own problems. I need to remember the kickball change. I feel like this is so unprofessional. Yeah, it is. And I think the way it's being spinned in the media is like actually so misogynistic to Carrie Ann who like really did nothing. And I was like, look, she complained. Well, it's like that's literally her coworker. We're all having fun, but like that's her job. Like if someone at your job was posing at you on social media, you're telling me you wouldn't tell HR and it's potentially a threatening message. You know, it's up for debate. Like, no, it's like, I don't think he was threatening her. But yeah, actually, there's an insinuation of violence. So yeah, that's not OK. Seriously, like I can't even say this. Leave Carrie Ann alone. Oh, I agree. Everybody needs to start behaving. Needs to start behaving and like remember what the show is about and accept the judgment and they need to like understand maybe this is how Dancing with the Stars was in the past. Maybe Maxim told Len to retire and that was funny and everybody ate that up 20 years ago. But in 2026, we're taking and they're not even being harsh because like they are being soft. They start everything with a compliment. And that was amazing. It's true. But you did a lift. You didn't do enough choreography. And you smile and say thank you. Yeah, of course. They're not out to get you. No. And I also like hate that this happened and I'm mad at Val because like the idea that a pro can be suspended for like a week. It's just like now this is what's happening. Now we're setting the precedent for that. So it's like, OK. Yeah. Who's next? Yeah. I hope everyone falls in line. They need like a kumbaya meeting. I'm really excited for tonight. Me as well. Maybe I'll order McDonald's. Oh, no. But we also have Nick's home opener. Oh, my God. I didn't even think about that. Shit. Oh, my gosh. What are we going to do? Tonight it's a Nick's home opener. They're raising the banner. Yeah. They're playing Philly, which like was one of their biggest ops last season. But now he has LeBron. So it's even more so. Yeah. And like they were a threat. They beat the Sixers. No. What is the team? Philly Sixers. Yeah. Seventy Sixers like right before going to the finals. So it was like a tough thing for them. Joel Embiid. Oh, my God. I'm like having flashbacks. And now LeBron's on that team randomly. Yeah. So the home opener is just like kind of layered. And it starts early because there's like a big ceremony with the banner. But we have to watch Dancing with the Stars. Oh, yeah. So the banner ceremony starts at 630 and Dancing with the Stars starts at 8. And we can start at like 815, 820. That's true. Okay. We should be okay. We'll be fine. But yeah, I forgot I had like a whole thing planned for Ben, like making it special. Yeah. Okay. Oh, also a little happier Dancing with the Stars news. Word on the street is that Ezra Fresh and Hayley Bills are dating. Wait. Yeah. Sarah J. Nader's ex-partner? Yeah. Dancing with the Stars source says they're openly flirting on set. Oh, my God. Okay. I didn't know this was an option because I don't know why I just thought Ezra Fresh might be gay. Like, I was just, yeah, I don't know why. Like, I just, no proof. I just. I didn't think that. He's just. My own assumption bias. Young. Assumption bias. And, you know, he's like, when you see someone on Dancing with the Stars, they're like, you see sort of like the more feminine side. So, sorry. Like, love this. Love this. I didn't know this was an option. She's so cute. Obviously, the season didn't go how she wanted it to. But if she ends up with a boyfriend, a mirror ball winner. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if this is true. It's just like being reported in Cosmos or said they're like flirting on set. Like, who knows? But I'm going to choose to ship. I'll be keeping an eye out. I'm going to choose to believe. And I do believe in love ever since I found out that J. Lo and Brick Holstein are in fact dating as reported yesterday. Yeah, I saw. Like, fully confirmed. Casually. Casually. Even though, like, how casual can it be? Because they've definitely been seeing each other since the movie came out. And I've been talking about the movie. What? For like three, four months? Mm-hmm. Best movie ever. I love this. I just, like, it's so unexpected, you know? And Brick Holstein, I feel like, could be one of your celebrity crushes. He's so handsome. He's Jewish. And, like, his stuff is, like, smart, you know? He's like a smart writer. Doesn't do anything for me. Damn. Well, does something for J. Lo. Does something for J. Lo. And that's what matters. And if you saw, did you see the movie? Yeah. No, that's why you don't care, like, as much as I do. The sexual tension was, like, was insane. It was. It was insane. Like, and we know she's not even a good actress. So, like, you know it was real. Our third story, as we previously mentioned, Miley Cyrus is firing back at criticism of her Hollywood Bowl concert and considered not doing this second show. She said, it's hard for me to stand up here. So, Miley Cyrus has been doing two shows at the Hollywood Bowl. She famously does not tour. She does not like to tour. But she was like, you know what? Come to me at the Hollywood Bowl. I live down the road. She has been preparing for these shows. She actually had people thinking she was doing the Super Bowl because she was, like, bowl prep. Right. And we're, like, Super Bowl? Or Hollywood Bowl. There's been a lot of anticipation. I actually really respect her choice not to tour. I think, like, it really ruins the lives of a lot of artists, like, the expectation of it. And she's in a happy relationship. So, doing creative things like this, like Harry Styles doing his residency in New York, I actually really like that and I really respect it. I have no problem with that. No, not at all. And if anything, I think more artists should do it because I think the element of having to, like, release an album, go on tour, leave your family, I think it, like, literally ruins their lives sometimes. Justin Bieber. Yeah. Also, just touring even, like, as a, before you have kids or anything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, it's just a very grueling way of life. And it's, like, not normal. There's no stability. So, most people cancel the second half of their tours. Always. So, residency. is a nice idea um but videos are going viral and the first one was like two nights ago and i saw people on tiktok being like i just love the miley show like so disappointed like people and i was first i always roll my eyes at stuff like that i'm like because people will be disgruntled about anything like any excuse to get their money back but then i started seeing it like more in droves and i started seeing a lot of videos of her playing her biggest hits and not singing them which is my pet peeve like yeah do not invite me to your concert to sing i'm there to listen at her second show she addressed that she said oh i forgot i'm supposed to sing every fucking line i think she like forgot how to put on a show um she said i've never heard that i don't put my heart into something i don't know if any of you heard that somebody was doing commentary to get click paid on their video talking about my show on friday night but i'm a lot of things and we're not even going to entertain that she had gotten criticism she makes it sound like it was one person like it was a lot for not singing the whole thing um she told the crowd on sunday that performing does not come as natural as it once did but to her these shows were more than experiment it's that's absolutely not what this is this is not an experiment of you this is an experience for me and you all make the experience possible and what's weird about this is that like i feel like you could criticize miley's music career like we often do um but we never really have anything bad to say about her as a performer no she's really yeah she's really up there with the greats like some of her um festival performances are like some of the greatest of all time so this is the first time she's ever been called into question as a performer and i feel that like a lot of the footage i've seen like does support some of the complaints and i hate when everybody like complains about stuff but if you're gonna charge people to come see you like you got to put on a show i heard the show was 40 minutes i heard the show was 40 minutes that's really insane and you don't even sing half the songs she said also at one point before i came out for orbit which i guess is one of her songs i already told myself i wasn't going to come on stage i was going to run away but never would i leave you all sitting in these seats unfulfilled from a show so i can take a lot but one thing i will not stand is any question about where my heart is when i'm on the stage i'm fully present that's not an option no and also like demanding gratitude from people when you showed up like they paid like to us to be grateful that you didn't leave us here after we literally paid to be here in the seat you are contractually obligated to be here so like thanks she's acting weird and a lot of like what she's saying in response to it which i felt like a lot of the criticism was really valid and her way of responding to it is just making it worse yeah like very victim-y now i imagine she's going through a lot with the loss of her aunt dolly i saw her like really getting emotional and it's like sometimes you're too emotional to do something and that's fine um i just feel like this has been bad for miley like all this time i thought she didn't tour like for the same reasons why i wouldn't tour right you know what i mean and all the reasons we just discussed but not because she couldn't put on a show but that she's a showman that isn't why i'm telling you like i feel like she's going through something and i and now we're like her name is being talked about a lot in regards to the super bowl the last couple of years and probably for the next few weeks until it's confirmed and it's like this is not helping no no she's she should not do the super bowl she never thought i would say that yeah but why like the jonas brothers should do the super bowl that's a good one she's very fit she's in great shape she's an amazing singer like a lot of people you don't want them to sing live because they can't sing so good she's an amazing vocalist so just sing your songs and like move around the stage it's like you really just have to be like those two things and when you're doing like a residency not a tour you're only your biggest fans are coming so the bar is lower like they're really excited to be there you don't have to like entertain like when you do the aero store 150 times in 30 different countries and people are bringing their parents you have to entertain everyone the bar is high no just two or three shows of residency for your biggest fans in la like girl just show up and sing and like how big is the hollywood bowl it's big but not like an arena right surprising surprising i would have thought that she would crush i honestly was seeing so many videos go viral i just assumed they were good and then i like started i heard her i saw her like literally walking with the microphone down at her side during party in the usa it's like i hate that shit that is my biggest pet peeve and it's more so when they do it at like the best part of the song it's like well no that's we came here no but it didn't even seem like that was her plan she didn't sing it at all she forgot yeah she didn't sing it at all sometimes they don't sing it because they can't hit those notes anymore or like everybody knows this song so i'm gonna let you sing and i'm gonna take a break i hate that but she actually forgot that she has to sing if there are any artists listening like stop doing that is my biggest pet peeve in the world it's so annoying i don't want to hear this annoying bitch behind me singing i want to hear you sing that's why we paid to be here like for the party in the usa part if you throw to the crowd like we i don't need like one time is fine party in the usa it's not like so no here would be appropriate ready you're the audience i'm miley so i put my hands up to play in my song the butterflies fly away not in my head like yeah moving my hips like yeah so i put my hands up to play in my song i know i'm gonna be okay hey we have to hit that note yeah you can do that it's a party in the usa i think yeah i think you are yeah either or it's a party in the u.s you want to hear the singer sing the title okay one line one time fine not every chorus yeah but it's partying this is not that serious and you know what they always do like feel like yeah back to him something's up that's so fucking annoying yeah i think also if i remember i don't know where she was performing once but she had teleprompters for all of her songs there are a couple of artists like that my boyfriend joe jonas but i will say like it's impressive that artists can remember the words to every single one of their songs and it is a skill that you is part of the job but i can understand if you don't remember everything but again it makes you less of a candidate did you watch a banana bowl performing no oh my god we tried to watch a banana bowl this weekend but i couldn't log into disney plus joe jonas i forgot like a whole chunk of his song he is like the teleprompter guy if he doesn't have a teleprompter he doesn't know the lyrics to any of his songs now granted a lot of his most literally a lot of his most popular songs are 20 years old and so i give grace but miley's a teleprompter queen too i actually think there are a lot of artists who do teleprompters and you would never know because singing and looking at the screen and looking at the crowd is an art um and some of them just like literally look down at the floor it's a balance and actually even though i have the worst memory ever you'll never catch me forgetting the lyric to a song no your name i have no idea the lyric to a song i heard 30 years ago right there tip of my tongue i'm right on top of that tip of i'm right on top of that rose are you ready for our fourth story if it's our fourth story that's brought to you by audible we are so excited to be collaborating with audible october is actually the perfect month for it because you know we're fully in the mood to consume things that match the season the spooky season so we actually recently started listening to the new full cast bram stoker's dracula starring jonathan bailey and ella pernell which is obviously extremely on theme for the spooky season and we're going to be listening to the new full cast bram stoker's if there were ever a time to listen to dracula the time is now we've been trying to be better about what we're doing with like random pockets of downtime during our day whether it's a commute we were just talking about that it's so easy to of course pick up your phone uh scroll for what you think is going to be five minutes and suddenly you've spent 45 minutes scrolling the same three apps and you don't even know what you actually consumed so instead we've been trying to throw on audiobooks to actually get something out of that time even if you're doing something like a chore i love doing an audiobook while i'm like doing the dishes that's what we love about audible audible excuse me you don't have to carve out an hour of your time to listen to the same three apps a day to sit down and read you can listen while you're already doing something else we'll listen while we're driving getting ready getting ready is like a huge pocket of time doing some false sweeping anything where our hands are busy but our brain is not it makes all of those mundane tasks so much more enjoyable because now we're actually invested in a story while we're getting things done and i think a lot of us are like you know walking around the house putting up our decorations for halloween and dracula is the perfect thing to get in the mood very spooky and it's like a full production i think a lot of people if you haven't listened to an audiobook you might not realize like how much is going on in an audiobook and how much is going on in an audiobook these days these aren't your grandma's audiobooks audio but audible has such a massive library there's always something to listen to including many of the books and stories that we've previously talked about on the toast i know you read yesteryear for the redheads so if you listen to the episode but you haven't read the book yet or if you want to revisit it after hearing all of jackie's thoughts or like the world's thoughts everyone's talking about that book you can listen to it on audible also of course verity everyone's talking about right now because it just got made into a movie which is perfect for this time of year too it's very dark and twisted very unhinged it's one of those books where you just need to know what happens next and i feel like that kind of story is really good as an audiobook plus the movie's out so who wouldn't want to you know listen to the book before seeing the movie so you could just be sort of elite and then everyone also talking about margaret's got money troubles which did you read that for 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Oh, can't wait to see her in the next season of Dancing with the Stars because they just like pluck. Is that what happened? Jenna Dewan. Is that where Jenna Dewan? Was the host of that show. Yeah. Interesting. And she's like, she literally was on the Dancing with the Stars competitor. That's why she's really not eligible for the show. Sorry. I also, and what happens on So You Think You Can Dance? What happened? It's no longer with us. And I'm not sure, but it was like the ugly stepsister. They think they can dance. They thought they could. But could they? I think so. And like Alison Cochler. Do you know who that is? Like Twitch's wife? Oh, yeah. She just came up. I saw a reel. She's extremely polarizing. She was a pro on Dancing with the Stars. Was she? It didn't sound right. They said that she was Andy. I think they were a part of So You Think You Can Dance. But she was Andy Grammer's partner. Grammer? It said she was Andy Grammer's partner and she was five months pregnant. Oh, wow. That's really far along. Yeah, that's what I heard. That's why it like came across my mind. What did you say her name was? Colker? Alison Holker. Okay, close. Was she on Dancing with the Stars? I think you're right. Yep. With Andy Grammer. So she is known for her television appearances on So You Think You Can Dance. But what about Dancing with the Stars? So did Andy Grammer go on So You Think You Can Dance? He must have. So celebrities go on So You Think You Can Dance? I am personally, okay, she has never, just to clear up, never been on Dancing with the Stars. It sounded wrong. She was a contestant in season two of So You Think You Can Dance and then an all-star in season seven through 11 and 14. Next question. What happens on So You Think You Can Dance? So You Think You Can Dance is an American reality television dance competition show that airs on Fox. Television. Let me just, the series premiered, what is the, what is the? Alison Holker was a pro on Dancing with the Stars with Andy Grammer. One season? Dancing with the Stars, here. In August 2014, Holker was announced as one of the 12 professional dancers on the 19th season of Duetis. The announcement of Holker, a contemporary dancer as a cast member, was met with controversy due to her limited experience teaching in dancing ballroom. But she wound up on four seasons. She was with Jonathan Bennett, Aaron Samuels for Mean Girls. They were eliminated in week six. She was partnered with R5 singer, oh, Riker Lynch. Ross Lynch is one of the Lynch family in the 20th season. They made it to the finals and came in second place. Oh, wow. Season 21. So maybe she is good. Andy Grammer. She was eliminated on week eight, finishing in seventh place, and then she did not appear in season 22 due to pregnancy. She returned in season 23, partnered with Babyface. The couple were eliminated in week four. So she had four seasons. On Dancing with the Stars. But she didn't really make an impact because I don't associate her name with Dancing with the Stars at all. Neither does Wikipedia. It's not even in her top thing. It's So You Think You Can Dance. That's really crazy because there are so many former pros that even though I didn't watch, I know their names. You know that they're a part of the franchise. Cheryl Burnett. What's her name? Cheryl Burke. Yeah, right. Of course, Kim Herjavec. Here's what So You Think You Can Dance. I just want to know what the premise of the show is. It's a format where dancers trained in a variety of dance genres enter open auditions held in major U.S. cities to showcase their talents and move forward through successive addition. Oh, it's like American Idol, just like Finding the Best Dancer. But they're all amazing dancers. At the end of the process, a small number of contestants are chosen. These contestants move on to the main competition phase where they perform solo duet and group dance numbers on live television, attempting to master a diverse selection of dance styles, including classical, contemporary, ballroom, hip hop, yada, yada, yada. OK, who are other people who went from So You Think You Can Dance to Dancing with the Stars? So here are people who have judged on Dancing with the Stars, on So You Think You Can Dance. And the names, I'm only reading people you would know. Paula Abdul, Jason Derulo, Maddie Ziegler, Vanessa Hudgens, Steven Twitchboss, Matthew Morrison, Leah Remini, Maxim Chmerkovsky. Are these guest judges or like this is the? It just says judges on Wikipedia, so I don't want to like give false information. Because that's like a lot of like random people. OK, next question. Who else has gone from So You Think You Can Dance to Dancing with the Stars? And then we'll get back to the story. Jason Siegel Simcha. Are you talking about celebrities or who has appeared on both So You Think You Can Dance and Dancing with the Stars as a pro? Why would a celebrity appear on So You Think You Can Dance? When it said Vanessa Hudgens was on there, I have no idea. You said I have no idea. This is not my plate. Like, seriously, fuck off. OK, ready? A lot, like almost all of them. Go. Whitney Carson was on So You Think You Can Dance season nine. She came in sixth place. Janet Johnson was on season 10, came in eighth. Lindsey Arnold season nine. Yeah, Lindsey Arnold, I know. She just did very well. I just want to say Allen Burstyn came in 12th. Allison Holker came in eighth. Chelsea Hightower came in sixth. Artem, remember Artem? Yeah, of course. Came in eighth. The only person who seemed to have done well in the fourth spot is Lacey Schwimmer. OK. And the winners of So You Think You Can Dance, where are they now? Where are the winners of So You Think You Can Dance now? And who's the most famous person that I might know who has won? Maybe it's Keila Randomsky. Who's that? The wife of Jason Segel. Oh, I forgot. That's how we got here. OK, hold on. Chat. I feel like I've broken chat. He's like, OK. I've never heard of any of these people. If you're looking for someone you'd recognize from either Dancing with the Stars, TikTok or pop culture from So You Think You Can Dance. Hanalei Cabanilla, Bailey Munoz and Fik Shun aren't worth knowing. But the biggest mainstream names from So You Think You Can Dance are like runner ups, Whitney Carson, Janet Johnson. Yeah, not even runner ups. But yeah, I've never. And you said Jenna Dewan was on So You Think You Can Dance? She hosted it. She hosted it. OK. Oh, my God. I feel like there are people. Guess who competed on So You Think You Can Dance at age 13 and came in third place? Ines de Ramon. So close. Tate McCray. Well, there we go. Ariana DeBose. Full circle. That's full circle. Ariana DeBose was eliminated first, but she was on So You Think You Can Dance. So you think a lot of people who are like in the industry in various ways, like one kind of had like, you know, a couple of Jennifer Hudson was on American Idol. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, that's interesting. I'm sure there's like a very strong cohort on the Internet who are obsessed with all of this, who are like screaming at the podcast right now. You guys, we're getting there. Yeah, we are learning. We've only been here for two fucking days. Do you have any interesting tidbits to share? Like, please feel free to write them in the comments. Heather Morris, of course, was on So You Think You Can Dance and then and then Glee. I don't know exactly in what order. OK. Well, this has been enlightening. Haley Erbert, Eric Hough's wife. Now, like, what did Kayla Radomski do? How did she? I actually don't care. Did she win? I don't know. One more question. What's her name? Kayla Radomski. And can I get a spell check? R-A-D-O-M-S-K-I. Kayla is K-A-Y-L-A. I know. Thanks. Kayla Radomski, searching the Web. She's known for So You Think You Can Dance and being Jason Segel's wife. Thanks. She was on So You Think You Can Dance season five. She finished in fourth place. Oh, great. I wonder how she met Jason Segel. She worked as a backup dancer for Taylor Swift, J-Lo and Britney Spears. She appeared in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, Teen Beach Movie 2 and Palm Royale. She began and Jason began dating in 2023. So cute. Well, now they're married. They got married at the Huntington Library Botanical Gardens in San Marino, California, according to a photo of the wedding invitation shared on Instagram stories by a friend. Or should I say former friend? By an enemy. Like. Friend also posted photos of Radomski in her bridal veil and declared her Mrs. Segel. Radomski's brother posted a snapshot of the couple saying my sister found happily ever after. So. No, that's nice. I'm happy for them. Like, is he Jewish? Yeah, right. Or he just plays Jew. He's Jew-y. Yeah, he's Jew-ish. Um, he's. He is. Full. He just doesn't. He gives like, just because he has curly hair. No, he gives just like. His mom is Christian. Okay. Radomski, is she Jewish? A lot of dancers are Jewish. It's true, actually. Alan Burstyn is Jewish. Valen Maksim-Kamerakovsky. Pasha's Jewish, Daniela Karagas is Jewish. Wait, what? She grew up in like a in like a Brooklyn Jewish household. I feel like maybe I know her. Right, Kayla Radomski. And they're also very Eastern European, which I guess is why they're Jewish. I think ballroom dance is like big in that region. She is not Jewish. Yeah, okay. But she sounds Jewish. She does. And her husband, Jason Siegel, has an Ashkenaz Jew father. Well, you know, actually having a Jewish last name, more often than not, like if we're questioning, means just like that your dad is Jewish. Exactly. So, like I said. A Jew you are not. Jew-y. Yeah. He's booked up for like Jewish roles. Yeah. Trades off of being Jewish. Yeah. Doesn't support the Jewish people. Classic. Actually, I don't know him not to support the Jewish people. Me neither. I actually. I don't really want to look at it. I don't want to know. As far as I know, like he's an ally from afar. As far as I know, he's fine. Yeah. I honestly don't want to know. Me neither. Are you ready for our fifth and final story, which was the major sports news about Jalen Hurts? I'm all over this. So, Jalen Hurts, the quarterback for the Eagles, like the best quarterback for the best team in the league, is reportedly expected to miss the season after blood clots were discovered in his lungs. So, what happened? The story is crazy. I got the whole download from Liz Woods. Jalen Hurts is expected to miss the rest of the season after doctors discovered multiple blood clots in his lungs. So, they went to London for a game, which I just feel like of this whole saga, there's so many takeaways. It's just so unnecessary. There's so many takeaways. And one of them being like making your players fly across the world for a game once a week is so unnecessary. When he got there, he had like some health issues. He went to the hospital actually until four in the morning. They discovered a superficial blood clot in his leg. Yeah. And the instruction he was given was to not fall asleep, which I think because if you like get vertical, I don't know exactly what. So, he literally stayed awake. And also like being stationary is bad for clots. 36 hours he was awake, which just, if you have a blood clot or not, that's an insane, that's what they do to the people in Guantanamo Bay. Like you need sleep. That's just inhumane. He was awake for 36 hours due to doctor's orders. And then it was also cleared to play. So, he played a game. I don't even know if he won, but I heard he had an amazing first half. Like he played a game with a blood clot in his leg on no sleep for 36 hours, which you're the star player of your team. You have the access to the best medical care in the world. And that's the medical care you're being given. You also have a blood clot in your leg and they send you home on an airplane. Even I know if you have a blood clot, the last place on earth you can die is being on an airplane. That's like the number one rule. And that's why when you're on a long flight, you have to get up and walk around because of the clot. You don't want a clot. And that's like, even if you don't have a clot yet, you don't want to have a clot. Imagine having one. They put his ass on a plane, took him home where the doctors discovered he had multiple blood clots in his lung. Like that was obviously out for the season. And this might be out for his whole career. Everyone is freaking about how poorly managed this was. And like, you have to really think about how like, this is their star player. Like he probably gets I would like to think everybody gets equal access to medical care, but I'm sure they have a vested interest in having the best doctors, the best everything for him. And it's like, that's how you, good luck to like the third string quarterback, like who nobody cares about. It's very upsetting. People are really mad. Like at the whole organization. Obviously the Phillies, Philadelphia fans are devastated because their season's over and he might be out forever. Like it might be a career ending injury. Yeah. And he's like on blood thinners right now. You can't be sports. Yeah, exactly. Um, no, it's crazy. And it's just like, it was one, like just let him. It was such an income and they lost anyway. Such an insignificant game. It's the fifth game of the season. They're also so close to it. Like, it's like, okay, if Jalen Hurts can't play a game, like seriously, it's not a big deal. If Jalen Hurts can't play like two or three games, it's still not a big deal. No. And the fifth, and there's no game in which you should sacrifice someone's health. Like, of course not. But I understand them thinking about it for like the Super Bowl. Right. But the fifth game of the season in London. Like literally they have to stop. I feel like there are so many takeaways here. They have to stop with the international games. It is so lame. It's also not working. People abroad don't give a fuck about American football. And you know, that's okay. I like that we have our little thing. Like it's just us. You know, it's fine. They have to stop. Like when I thought about the fact that those 49ers players went to Australia, like why? Like literally why? Yeah. It's so bad for them. Yeah. Not good. Like literally bad. No. And like, obviously he should sue the fuck out of them. Well, I am looking forward. But you know, he's like, the thing is, he's a pride of Philadelphia. Like he's like famously philanthropic. I don't know if you saw like all like the public schools in Philadelphia had no air conditioning. Like, and of course, like the state wouldn't pay for it. Couldn't repair it. They're like, we're poor. Jalen Hurts paid for all of them. Like he's a huge beacon of his community. So sue the team. I don't know. I feel like if he sued, of course, but I feel like if he sued the team, like, like the team is the heart of the city, you know? Well, not if you don't care about your players. A thousand percent. I wonder, I call Taylor Donahue, last night, because I was like, are you okay? She was devastated. She didn't seem mad enough, but I'm not obviously questioning her grief. She didn't seem mad. She was just like so upset. Yeah. And I think that Philly's fan, I know it's kind of what you guys are good at. Like, I think we should get mad. Yeah. Why don't you like climb up on a lamppost and burn your city down? Like that's, this is a good reason. Yeah. This is as good of a reason as any. Oh, well, I hope he recovers and then he can decide what he wants to do about that. Yeah. Miscarriage. Of justice. And medical advice. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah. And then there's like this guy who's like obviously getting fired. I don't know if you saw, like, obviously every Stephen A. Smith type of like sports talking head is like giving their two cents. Of course, this is a big day in sports. It's huge for the Pat McAfee's of the world and they're all like giving their takes. They're all going viral in the sky. Like, I don't know what, like it's, it went viral. I actually saw it like 10 times this morning saying how he thinks it's like a fake blood clot and like it's Jalen's way of just like getting the, you know, season off because like they're not going to win anyway and it's like, we'll start again next. It was such a crazy, first of all, bad take. Why would he say that? Where is he, where, what network is he on? Like, he was sitting at like a legit looking desk. It was definitely ESPN SportsCenter, like one of those. Why would he, that's not even a good call. And like his co-host like interjected just like sort of like help him out and he like literally didn't stop. Find it. Yeah, yeah. It's not even a good call. No, it's a bad, it's actually a very bad call. I don't know his name. I've never seen him before. Jalen Hurts commentator. Hopefully Twitter knows. It looked like that they was kind of pinning this season on Jalen Hurts. Now this is just me looking outside looking in. I don't know nothing guys. This is his take. It looked like they were trying to pin the outcome of this season on a Jalen Hurts just so that they can have an excuse later on to move on from Jalen Hurts. Just a clarification. He's saying the team is like, just keep watching. And it's not Jalen. You're not supposed to know what his point is yet. I don't think he knows what it is yet. Again, I'm not saying I know nothing guys, but if I'm just playing devil's advocate here and I'm thinking that way, if I'm Jalen Hurts or anybody in Jalen Hurts' camp, I'm saying, well, if everybody's hurt, I'm hurt too. I guess if the Eagles were not going to win this season. And I'm not saying, you know, a superficial blood clot isn't serious. I'm not saying that, but I would advise all of our viewers to go Google superficial blood clot as opposed to a real blood clot. Now again, I'm not a medical guy, but I'm, I'm just saying to me, to me, it looked like Jalen is kind of getting himself out of the fray so that this lost season with Jim J.D., you just said it. This is a lost season. He's pulling himself out so that this doesn't look like it's on me. Now again, guys, I don't know nothing. No, no, no. In fairness, yeah. I just want to say like, he's making, Jackie! I just, I never even considered that this like might be fake or you'd say, it sounds so serious. It is. That's why this is such an offensive take. And the one in the calf is a superficial blood clot, but the one in the lungs, does he have anything to, there's multiple in the lungs. Does he have anything to say about the clots in the lungs? Keep watching. The medical stuff. Yeah, we do, we do. But I'm just saying, they put in the statement superficial blood clot. Look it up. What is it? What is it? I made a comment that it looked like that they, That's it. He stopped me thinking. Oh my God. And his, for anyone, what is his, name? Like, who is this guy? Michael Robinson. People do like live to conspiracy theorize about the NFL. Yeah, and that is fun. I never even thought. But not on a major network. Save it for your podcast. Agreed. He needs a podcast. Well, that's where he's going because he's obviously getting fired. But he issued an apology. I just never like thought, is everyone out in the Eagles like out sick this season? I think that like there are some seasons where you know you like are a Super Bowl contender. And some you're not. And like this wasn't, they weren't like undefeated. I just think that if they were going to, like if they were going to like pull Jalen for their season because the season's a wash, whatever, like they would have come up with a lie that doesn't make the organization look so foul. Why do you need to come up with a lie? I think that's a good reason. Like this is not our season. Let's not risk Jalen getting injured. Number two, let's go. Put him in coach. I guess no one's ever. Why can't you just say that? You can't just like quit. You can't do that. And the fans wouldn't like it. People wouldn't buy tickets. It's like, wait, remember that guy? You can fake an injury and just like say, oh, I'm hurt. My leg hurts. You don't have to like get us all riled up 36 hours, no sleep. Brock Turdy. Flying to London. It's an international affair. Brock Turdy is the quarterback for the 49ers. Jimmy Garoppolo. Thank you. Like by accident, right? He was like a second or third string. Jimmy Garoppolo, like, and they never put Jimmy Garoppolo back in, even though he was fine. Jimmy Garoppolo got hurt and Brock stepped up. Yes. And then it was like they had their best season ever with this kid who was the last. And Brock, Brock was doing really well so they didn't put Jimmy back in. I just feel like you can leave your quarterback on the bench. I just feel like you can. No, I just think, I hear what this guy is saying and I just think that if that were the case and they're just benching him for the season. They wouldn't say blood clot. They wouldn't, and they wouldn't make their organization look so bad. Yeah. No, it's a bad theory. That's what I'm saying. Like he could have just been like my arm hurts, I'm out. And they could have just been like he has a fractured elbow. Mental health. No, no, no. He could have just been like he has a fractured elbow, like whatever. Yeah. Not all this, this whole crazy story. That makes them look bad. The coaches look bad. And heads need to roll. People have to get fired now. Yeah, that's what people are saying. Medical malpractice. They're calling for the coach to be fired. They wouldn't go about it in this way. So I appreciate you trying. The creativity. Yeah, but no. but no really wishing him the best i just feel like when your last name is hurts that's gotta hurt it does hurts um so yeah we're like so back in football we are um yeah official by official prediction we'll resurface this video in february is it's going to be a chiefs niners super bowl and the niners are going to win i think it's going to be bills we forgot about the bills and then whichever one is not in the bills league so i think would be bills chiefs right yeah bills chiefs calling it um so the chiefs are undefeated right now so are the 49ers the vikings are five and one i just barely forgot about them what about the bills that's a great question i love i love him i know what's his last name josh allen thank you pregnancy brain literally bills are they just won bills standing five and one that's pretty good that's pretty good pretty good okay oh and the dolphins your home state they are zero and five in case you were wondering florida proud baby we have three teams though so how are my other teams doing buccaneers and jacksonville jaguars yeah that's like so many okay i know florida's a big state um buccaneers i don't know on this list jacksonville jaguars are four and two and you know i love that guy trevor lawrence so handsome he looks like kylie kelsey and then what was the other team jacksonville jaguars no no that was the jaguars the buccaneers why aren't they on this list like tampa bay okay i feel like i'm going crazy ready chiefs broncos rados raiders chargers jaguars cults texans titans browns steelers ravens bengals bills patriots just offense they're not like on this conference list oh because they're on the other side okay cool um what team am i looking for tampa bay back in the years oh one in five not a great year for florida it's okay we've had some good years of course the tom brady years were good fun um i think our college teams do really well in basketball you had tyler cameron um on one of your collegiate football teams that's obviously huge they he didn't play in florida yes he did no didn't he go to wake forest fau he did they showed on dancing with the stars last year but i thought i mean last week went to wake forest with um with matt i thought he did too but he was literally wearing an fau fau jersey he trans okay he played at both he played at wake forest and then transferred they showed a picture of him it said florida atlantic university that's the picture they used for dancing with the stars okay okay cool cool cool cool cool well that's our show you guys happy tuesday reminder panthers won the stanley cup a couple years nobody cares twice nobody cares we do we do and i'm telling you hockey's having a major surgence dear toasters is on thursday so just want to remind everyone oh yeah we could have done it today we could have but the thing is i'm not messing with the schedule like i made a promise last week we just did it right thank you guys so much for listening to the toast and land on morning show where we tell the best stories you need to remember the friday on youtube so watch this on youtube please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up we're also available as a podcast center podcast we found so that's spotify apple podcast and youtube where we listen to podcast minutes just a five-star view in a beautiful setting and wickedly talented we are you guys have an amazing day and we'll see you tomorrow love you bye from the studio that brought you wandavision i was an avenger but i'm not a hero anymore the vision returns for the final chapter of the groundbreaking trilogy that family wasn't real you sure about that i had a father called vision how is this possible am i losing don't miss the two episode premiere of marvel television's vision quest nothing bonds a family together quite like mortal jeopardy now streaming only on disney plus