This episode of *Love It or Leave It* blends bizarre, humorous, and deeply political commentary on current events, technology, and culture. It opens with fascinating facts like anteaters evolving 12 times, then pivots to urgent AI debates, where experts warn of runaway self-improving systems, while figures like Trump dismiss such concerns as fear-mongering. The discussion extends to corruption, such as Russian-backed wedding expenses for Donald Trump Jr., and the ethical implications of AI in media, where a fictional AI actress interview exposes public skepticism about AI replacing human actors. The episode also features a satirical take on fitness culture after an athlete pooped during a competition, sparking outrage and a public apology. Meanwhile, Miss Pat shares her powerful personal journey—from growing up in a violent, crack-ridden neighborhood to becoming a successful comedian and advocate—emphasizing resilience, authenticity, and the importance of speaking truth, even when it's inconvenient. The show also highlights ongoing issues like AI regulation, political manipulation, and systemic inequality, concluding with a call to support access to healthcare and personal freedom. Through sharp satire and heartfelt storytelling, the episode critiques power structures, celebrates underrepresented voices, and reminds listeners that humor and truth can coexist.
Andy and Anna here from your new favourite podcast, No Such Thing As A Fish.
Yes, we are two of the four hosts of the podcast that stuffs fascinating, amazing, weird, mad facts into your ears on a weekly basis.
You got any good facts, Andy?
Yes, how about this one? Anteaters have evolved on 12 separate occasions.
Wow.
Mysterious, wonderful.
The world really wants them to exist.
What about this one? When Ronald Reagan left office, he left a note on the White House lawn for the squirrels, warning them to beware of George Bush's dogs.
So there you go. If you like fascinating facts and much more besides, we are No Such Thing As A Fish.
What's up, Los Angeles?
Welcome to Love It or Leave It, live from Hollywood. I'm Jon Lovett, and let's get into it.
What a week.
Over the weekend, Anthropic CEO Dario Amadai published a 3,800-word essay calling for the AI industry to slow down,
warning of the danger of what's known as recursive self-improvement, in which AI models train and improve new AI models,
which may leave humans unable to control or even understand these systems.
In independent intelligence, we can't control or understand?
Sounds like AI is at risk of becoming. my wife.
Sam Altman, the CEO of OpenAI, and Elon Musk, the saddest, richest man in the world,
echoed Amadai's concerns, kicking off a debate over regulation.
However, House Speaker Mike Johnson doesn't want Congress, which has so far done nothing, to do too much.
But the problem is, I'm telling you again, the guys who are raising the alarms right now all have very different ideas on what the guardrails should be.
There's no consensus among them.
And Congress is obviously less qualified than the people who are pushing this frontier to know all the ins and outs of it.
Awesome leadership. Everyone has different ideas about what to order for lunch, so here's what I'm thinking.
No fucking lunch.
Also, that's an argument against any safeguards for any industry.
You don't have to understand why dough rises to know that it's bad when there's glass in the fucking bread.
Meanwhile, some would rather dismiss all of these warnings as some kind of psyop on the left.
That's to avoid facing how powerful AI can be.
We're viewing this as some marketing ploy, but this isn't like when they killed Mr. Peanut in 2020 to sell more peanuts.
This would be more like if Mr. Peanut wrote an essay saying that "peanuts could kill us all."
Sure, we'd definitely be talking about peanuts, but not in a good way.
Meanwhile, on the right, the claim is that this hyperbolic language is meant to scare the government into creating regulations that will reward more established firms, which can then afford the compliance costs.
And this isn't just a fringe theory.
President Jelly Deli-Vance.
I have to say, just personally, I feel a little bit weird about the fact that you have so many frontier AI tech companies kind of coming to the government and begging the government to regulate them.
It feels a little bit to me like a bit of a Trojan horse.
It's exactly like the Trojan horse.
If the Greeks who built the Trojan horse ran to Troy screaming, "Watch out for that horse, there could be some guys with swords in there."
Meanwhile, President Trump isn't losing any sleep over the impending AI threat.
He's losing sleep because his CPI is low.
He's losing sleep because his CPI machine is broken after he tried to put Diet Coke in the reservoir.
Here's our big golfing boy.
We're leading China in AI.
We're the most sophisticated country in the world.
And frankly, I want to keep it that way because whoever wins, AI wins.
Yes, whoever wins, AI wins and then dies.
Dies a winner.
Later on Air Force One, the leader of the most sophisticated country in the world was asked about his own AI use.
Have you ever used it yourself?
Or have you been?
I use it every day.
How do you use AI?
But, uh, I would say, you know, for the most part, you can use AI for a lot of things.
What do you use it for?
I don't want to do any of this.
I had to drop, now if you'll excuse me, I need to go task Codex to build a model for solar adoption by latitude,
giving decreasing material costs so that I'm ready for my meeting on permitting reform in the morning.
I'm just kidding.
I'm going to make a video where I have huge muscles and eat James Tallarico like a candy apple.
Thank you.
On Monday, Trump took to social media to further detail his argument.
Posting, quote, "The only controller guardrails that AI needs is a strong and smart high IQ president, and the USA has that in spades."
And this just in, humanity has fallen.
Let's take a moment to honor 50,000 wonderful years of being the dominant species on the planet.
The cave paintings of Sulawesi.
The Great Pyramids of Giza.
Mr. Bean.
The End.
The End.
Wrote Trump in another post, quote, "I am the hoax buster, and I'm right now breaking another hoax that AI is going to take over, consume, and destroy the world, and that robots will be marching into our cities and getting rid of us all."
Which is, of course, absurd. Robots won't march into our cities. Their terrifying quantum technology will allow them to teleport directly into the bathroom while we're pooping.
In corrupt wedding news, ProPublica reported on Monday that Donald Trump Jr. said, "I'm the hoax buster, and I'm right now breaking another hoax that AI is going to take over, consume, and destroy the world."
In corrupt wedding news, ProPublica reported on Monday that Donald Trump Jr.'s May wedding in the Bahamas was secretly paid for by Russian oligarch Umar Kremlev.
And let me just say, as someone who got married the same weekend as Don Jr., I should have thought of that.
According to ProPublica, Kremlev spent hundreds of thousands of dollars renting out a private island for the weekend, in addition to footing the bill for a fireworks show and lending out his team to plan the event.
But that's Russian oligarch Umar Kremlev. He loves love.
And it was all pretty casual. The after party was KGBYOB.
Kremlev is an associate of Russian President Vladimir Putin and the head of the International Boxing Association, a shady sports group financed by Russia's state-owned energy company Gazprom.
In 2023, the International Boxing Association was stripped of its role organizing Olympic boxing due to its refusal to "transparently explain the sourcing of its financing."
I'm sorry, I'm having trouble understanding your questions about corruption, Mr. Olympics Man.
Would you mind saying it a bit closer to "open the window"?
Don Jr. is reportedly worth hundreds of millions of dollars.
His family has made billions in just the past few years by monetizing the presidency.
Why would he want a Russian mogul to front a few hundred thousand dollars for his wedding?
I mean, I get that he has to save up for the third wedding, but still.
On Monday, Don Jr.'s bride, Bettina, posted a statement from the pair defending the Russians' largesse, writing in an Instagram post, quote,
"An extraordinarily generous wedding gift from a friend and something for which we were and remain incredibly grateful.
Friendship doesn't require a political motive.
Generosity doesn't automatically come with an agenda.
And sometimes a wedding gift is simply a wedding gift."
Concluded Bettina, "Alexei Navalny killed himself."
Bettina also posted wedding photos with the statement, which of course interested me greatly as someone who, as I said, just planned a wedding.
And I was struck in particular by this photo.
It is a personalized cocktail napkin with a beautiful quote, "We loved with a love that was more than love," by Edgar Allan Poe.
And when I saw this, something went off in my brain a little because, like, I don't know.
You don't think that Edgar Allan Poe is like the wedding poem guy, right?
But the line does appear on lists like the 52 most romantic quotes of all time from books, poetries, and plays.
But sure enough, the actual poem, "Annabelle Lee," is about a child bride who's great.
You knew the poem once I said the poem.
But you know, no, it's, you can now imagine, so you know what I'm talking about to say.
"Annabelle Lee" is the poem, and it is about a child bride whose grave he visits.
And many believe it is inspired by Poe's own marriage to his first cousin, which took place when he was 27 and she was 13 before she died of tuberculosis.
Which must have been a welcome relief from having to fuck your old cousin who was constantly asking to read you.
Asking to read you his creepy poems.
Quote the raven, "Blech."
Nevermore.
Nevermore.
Can you believe that?
This is why you can't just Google a fucking brainy quote and have somebody say it at your wedding.
You got to do the research.
You got to look in to find a nice one, right?
In my favorite part of this story, Don Jr.'s esthetician also posted about the wedding, specifically naming the procedures that the bride and groom got before the event.
And I am not judging.
I can't because I got some of the same treatments for my wedding.
That's real.
Pure Skin Palm Beach wrote of Don Jr.'s face, quote, "It was also a pleasure getting to know Don and helping him prepare for the big day with customized therapy treatments to naturally define his jawline.
Sadly, that esthetician has since died in a freak accident in which he was thrown out of the window by a Russian guy."
And you know what that sound means.
It's time for a bestiality update.
You may remember in August when we learned that the FBI had loosened its hiring policies, no longer automatically rejecting applicants who had committed theft, hired prostitutes, or participated in bestiality.
And so, ironically, FBI Director Kash Patel headed to the Hill to be barked at by a bunch of senators.
Here's an exchange with Louisiana's John Kennedy.
What about the bestiality?
See what it said before.
It automatically disqualified any individual who participated on either side of it.
Obviously, we are never going to hire the criminal.
This side of what?
The bestiality?
Yes.
So you disqualified the individual?
the animal? Well, I don't think we have great canines, but we're not going to disqualify.
I understand. You do? I don't. Either side of it. Either side of it. Is there a problem with
people blaming the victims when it comes to bestiality? Have people been commenting
slut under Lassie's IG posts? Now, in fairness, Kash Patel is saying something quite grim,
which is that people who have been victims of human trafficking may have been forced to engage
in bestiality and then try to join the FBI. And my feeling is, if that's you, you've been
through enough. Forget about the FBI. Teach yoga. Become a magician. Rent jet skis by the water.
Take it easy. If that happened to you, take it easy. And that's been the bestiality update.
On Monday, Kentucky Senator and living man Mitch McConnell returned to the Senate
for the first time since his hospitalization in June. And he looked great. The embalmers did
a beautiful job. Here's McConnell leaving his home in the first proof of life video we've seen
during his three month absence. Are you feeling good, Mitch? Looks good. Give us a thumbs up.
Cut him some slack. His staff is still figuring out which strings control which parts of his body.
And finally, during a high rocks fitness competition in China,
an Australian athlete experienced bowel incontinence or shit herself and was allowed to finish the race.
This is why high rocks events should not include an oyster eating contest.
The athlete, Joanna Wettrick, nevertheless came in just behind the winner,
writing in a now deleted selfie, go hard or go home. A win is a win. Yes, Wettrick finished
number two in the race and she took home second place. Hey, Joanna, I've got a motto for you.
Go hard or go bathroom.
Many pointed out or continuing in a competition in which the athletes all share equipment was
unsanitary, disgusting and perhaps unfair to the other competitors. In response to the backlash,
high rocks wrote in a statement, we ask our athletes to push themselves to the highest levels.
At times they will go beyond what even we thought possible. That courage, resilience and refusal to
give in are precisely what makes elite athletes so extraordinary. She pooped your pants. She didn't
land on the moon. Do I get a medal?
To ask Senator Mitch McConnell.
As the backlash rose, high rocks co-founder Moritz Furtz issued a more explicit apology,
writing, I apologize to all that were directly or indirectly affected, as well as to everyone who
felt like we did not handle the situation like we should have. High rocks made a mistake by not
reacting immediately during the race. First, it continued. I regret not standing up and saying,
hey, stop doing that. Cut that out. First, it said that he was surprised by the outpouring and also
that he heard from a lot of people. And when asked if anything could have prevented this grotesque
incident, first I said, depends. All right. We've got a great show for you tonight and we'll be right
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Laura Benanti. All right, please welcome to the stage, the hardest working woman in show business,
streaming, and YouTube, is Ms. Pat. Good to see you again. Good to see you again, too. Come join.
First of all, thank you for making the time to be here, because you do too much.
Sofa too damn low.
We've got to work on the sofa. I'm sorry.
When you invite old people, you got to have this shit propped up.
Now, how am I going to get out of here? Your little ass can't pull me out this hole. I done said it.
Well, that'll be a problem we'll deal with later.
Okay. But make sure you bring two strong men, because I'm going to need some help up out of this shit.
You could have said one more strong man. It was free to say one more strong man.
You're not big enough to pull me up.
I do. Listen, I don't look like much, but I do a lot of Pilates.
Pilates don't mean shit picking up a big black woman.
I need somebody to do weights.
Now who scratched their ass?
I don't know. I think there's something he said for functional movements.
You get a big strong guy, all of a sudden he's hurting his back, you know?
Now, your show was nominated for its fourth Emmy this season.
Yeah, we lost last night.
Yeah. But you were nominated.
Yes.
That's cool.
I don't care nothing about awards.
I don't care if the check clear.
But the people that write the checks care about the nominations.
Well, that's their problem.
I did the job.
If they get the trophy, as long as the check clear.
But I am thankful.
That's our fourth nomination, and this is our sixth season.
I mean, I'm just not a trophy chaser.
I am. I need it.
You do?
And, you know, the Webby's aren't the same, but, you know, I've gotten them,
and it doesn't do anything for me, so I need better awards.
What do you want to win?
Really, anything.
Any acclaim would help.
Oh, okay.
I'm sorry you need somebody to tell you you're great, but keep going.
So, you host the Miss. So, there's the Miss Pat show.
Yes.
You host Miss Pat Settles It.
Yes.
And Whisking It All.
Uh-huh, and I have a new show called America's Funniest People
that's coming out in October on VH1.
That's cool.
Thank you. Thank you.
Now, have you considered sharing some of your many jobs in Hollywood
with those in need?
I do it every time.
I go home, I have four, I have seven crack babies.
So, every chick, white people, you can laugh.
This is not the 90s.
This shit is funny.
There's no shame here.
So, every time I get paid, I take care of my nieces and nephews
who parents smoke crack.
So, every time I get a job, I'm taking care of somebody crack baby.
Beautiful.
I said y'all can laugh.
Don't stare at me.
Don't stare at Miss Pat.
Do not feel sorry.
If you feeling sorry, write me a check and we can cry together.
Now, your show on. On BET, you had an episode. BET Plus.
BET Plus.
Now, it's on Paramount.
Yes.
You had an episode about a woman hiding from ICE.
And it was a bit of a process to get that episode released, wasn't it?
It was.
What happened?
Well, the merger came and they said,
fuck no, everybody's scared of, you know,
of the people who own Paramount.
And they just didn't. At first, they approved it.
Then when the merger went over, they was like,
no, this is going to be too controversial
and then we're going to get shit down.
And we just fought for it.
And we was, you know,
because that's the shit I stand for.
You know, nobody should be dragging nobody out of this country.
This is a stolen country.
And we should be living in this bitch together.
By now, we should be able to get along.
But for some reasons, people don't want us to get along.
And we wanted to do an episode about ICE and we did it.
And it was hard, but it was so touching.
So many people reached out and was like,
they were so happy about us being bold about it.
Because in the episode,
my son,
was a teacher
and he brings home a Hispanic kid
whose parents just got caught by ICE.
And we was there to protect him until his aunt got there.
And so it just so happened the president was in town for a McDonald's opening.
Because he liked McDonald's.
And to make a long story short, the Secret Service came by the house.
Which was a very funny episode, and it was very touching.
Do you think the merger causing people to be worried about the episode,
do you think that was coming from the higher-ups?
Or was people afraid of the new higher-ups trying to stay out?
Like, was it people afraid of what the new world would be like?
Or do you think it was actually coming from the top?
I just think people were just afraid of the administration.
So I just think, you know, when you get to talking about stuff
that they want to make act like it don't exist in this world,
people are just scared.
I mean, look, they go on the internet, you say bad things about the president,
you get a knock at the door.
You can say the president shit himself, and bam, you get a knock at the door.
Why did you say the president?
Because he didn't shit himself.
Because he be shitting himself.
You know, this is a free country.
We supposed to be able to say what the hell we want to say.
You know, other than the N-word, that's the only thing that gets your ass whipped.
Other than that, we can talk about everybody, right?
For sure.
We supposed to be, but now people are walking on eggshell.
Not me, I don't give a fuck, but you know.
So you have a second book coming out, Miss American Dream.
Yes.
It's about your path from dropping out of atheism,
eighth grade, raising two children at 15, to who you became.
Is your current life one you were aiming for, or was it unimaginable?
It was unimaginable.
I mean, I tell my kids all the time, you couldn't have told me, I'm 54 now,
you couldn't have told me 30 years ago, this is how I was going to be living.
I was going to be in entertainment with four shows and four Emmy nomination,
and I'm creating other things.
I did not see this.
I mean, and society didn't see it for me either.
I mean, I grew up in a crack-infested neighborhood.
I had two kids by the time I was 14, got shot a couple times, went to prison.
You know, where I come from, that was the American dream for the African-American community.
You wasn't supposed to move up.
And believe it or not, that's what the community was, and that's how I grew up.
But I think I wanted more, and I think it came from, I used to love TV,
so I used to watch Leave it to Beaver and the Brady Bunch.
And good time was on, but I was sick of them black people eating.
I was like, do not be scared to fucking laugh.
You can laugh.
And I was like, I'm sick of these motherfucking black people eating oatmeal.
I don't want to see this shit.
I'm living this shit.
I said, why the fuck Beaver got a sandwich every time he get off that school bus?
I want this white shit over here.
So when I was a little girl, I had a jerry curl, but we was poor, so we only had activator.
Activator is the stuff that we put in our hair to keep it shiny.
We could only get it once a month.
So once we ran out, our jerry curl was just drying the fuck up.
So I was sick of the dry jerry curl.
I was sick of the dry jerry curl.
And I said, I just want to be white because white people get a sandwich when they get
off the bus and they fucking mama ain't drunk, you know, because this is decided.
This is the American dream they sold me.
So I'm thinking white people didn't have no fucking problem.
So I would tie a tie around my head and say, I'm fucking white.
And then I grew up and realized we all the fucking same people.
And the difference between me and you is y'all get wrinkles before me.
And so I said, I want to be black.
So I went back to being black.
Were there moments where, like, did you know you were special?
Like, did you know you had, like, because, you know, I think you can, there are, I think you can judge a society not like, it's not necessarily best to judge a society by can someone with extraordinary talents, right, emerge from a place with a lot of hard struggle, right?
What you want to know is can somebody get out of a bad situation or poverty without being extraordinary, just by working hard and doing their best?
But you had real and extraordinary talents.
Did you feel at the time?
I didn't have talent.
I had a talent, but I didn't realize.
I tell you, I had a baby at 14 years old by a 22-year-old married man.
And once I gave birth to that baby, by this time, I had already been molested.
I had already been shot.
I had already been beaten down.
I had been to the bottom.
And I just remember having that baby August 1986.
And I said, excuse my friend, these niggas ain't sticking their fingers in your ass.
So I'm going to protect you.
That's what made me say, I got to survive.
Because it wasn't about, I could go hungry, because I was a little black kid here in the ghetto.
But when I gave birth to that baby, we all, as a woman, we all have something in us called motherly instinct.
And no matter how old you are, when you give birth, that instinct instantly turns on for some people.
Should for most.
And that turned on for me, and I knew I had to survive.
And I just said, I got to get a better life.
You know, I always wanted a better life, but I was like, I cannot let my baby go.
I cannot let these people molest my child.
I cannot let these people beat my child.
And nobody had ever graduated in my family.
So I just, I remember holding my baby on August 9th, 1986.
And I said, we're going to break this cycle.
And it's cursed that we in.
I said, you're going to graduate high school.
I wasn't even thinking about college.
I just said, I want you to graduate high school.
I know if I can get you down there out of graduate high school, you would do something that I never was able to do.
And so that turned on.
And then I went to selling drugs and forging chips.
And then I got back on track and got married.
And thank God, you know, I'm a big Democrat.
And I voted for Bill Clinton, not because I'm a Democrat, because he was cute as fuck.
Bill Clinton was so goddamn cute.
I was like, oh, my God, I'm going to vote for this cute white man who can blow the horn.
So I go and I vote for Bill Clinton, and he pissed me the fuck off.
Bill Clinton literally turned around the next year after he got elected.
And he betrayed the black community.
He started the welfare to work program.
So I had to go get a job.
And I was so mad at him.
I was so pissed at Bill Clinton.
It was the best thing ever because he made me get off my ass.
And he said, you're not going to get these free benefits.
You go get your GED and become something.
So I got my GED and I wanted to become a nurse because I love helping people.
And he's like, you can't be no nurse because you're a convicted felon and all these drug charges.
And I was like, oh, now here I am with a GED and a grade.
And I still, no matter what in this society, I can't even sell nuts at a gas station.
I got five from a gas station.
But I went into this caseworker and I would just tell these horrible stories because I wanted them to feel sorry for me.
And so I was like, oh, my God, my granddaddy hung us one time.
And she was like, hung y'all?
I said, yeah, we stole my auntie food stuff.
She was like, how did he hang y'all?
So my granddad would do the practice hanging because don't get scared.
Just listen to the story.
One time we stole my auntie food stuff.
And he threw the rope up in the little shotgun ceiling we lived in the house.
And he put my cousin in the chair.
He said, which one of you motherfuckers stole the food stuff?
We had stole the food stuff so we can go cash to, you know, buy a piece of candy, get a change and play Pac-Man.
And we had promised we was not going to tell.
When my granddaddy put that rope around my cousin and moved that chair, to me, it was 15 minutes.
It probably was only two seconds.
And my cousin swung around.
I said, granddaddy, my brother stole them goddamn food stuff.
And I was like, oh, never again.
Would I ever steal?
Would I ever steal anything else?
And so I just, I don't know.
I just, I don't fucking forget where the fuck I was going.
Did anyone go, boy, you're funny at some point?
Like, when did that happen?
I told the caseworker that story and she bust out laughing.
That's where the fuck I was going.
I got menopause and brain fraud.
And she thought it was so funny.
I'm like, bitch, you're supposed to be crying so I can get more free shit.
And so the caseworker was like, let me ask you something.
She said, you're trying to go to school to be a nurse, but you're
going to have to be a medical assistant because you got a, you know,
you got a background.
And I said, yeah.
She said, you ever thought about comedy?
And I was like, no.
She's like, you're fucking funny.
And she would block off my time to report.
You know, I had to report like every other month at the time.
And so she would block off my time.
I would just tell her story.
She said, you should really look into it.
So I went and got on stage.
And now I'm like 24 years in.
Have you, did you ever reconnect with that caseworker?
All the time.
I bought her a car.
I called her.
I called her mom.
She never left my side.
She's still in my life.
I'd be like, I don't want to talk to you today.
But I talk to her all the time.
But was that, and did she see something other people didn't see?
Or, because here's the thing.
I find it hard to believe that no matter what was going on in your life,
that you weren't just funny all the time.
I was funny.
Well, see, I didn't see it as funny.
I saw it as straightforward.
I saw myself as, I would say shit you was too scared to say.
So if you was getting fucked with, I'd be like, look here, get the fuck
out of his face.
Da, da, da, da.
So I was that funny.
I was that type of person.
If I saw something in the room that needed to be said, I would say it.
I'm never scared.
And I'm just like that man Hollywood.
You know, when you go on set, people be walking on eggshells.
You don't walk on eggshells on my set.
I don't separate the stars, even though I'm the star of the show,
from the other people.
You know, people eat first.
No, we fucking eat together.
We are people.
We are human beings.
Why are you separating us?
That's why I don't like shooting a show in Hollywood.
So, you know, I'm quite sure she saw something in me,
but I didn't see it.
I didn't fucking time.
So you do say what's on your mind.
Yes, I do.
Why it makes so much sense that you're constantly settling it
on Miss Pat Settles It.
It is why it's time to bring down the gavel with our little round
of Miss Pat Settles It, a.k.a.
The Miss Pat Down.
I have a number of topics, and we just want to get your verdict on.
Okay.
First up, Spirit Halloween opened in my neighborhood in August.
A Halloween store opened in August.
We saw people putting out animatronic skeletons
on September 1.
When is the end?
actual appropriate time to start decorating for halloween now i'm not gonna lie my shit is up
right now i do christmas in october because i spent i put up like 15 christmas trees so i want
to get my money worth that shit is expensive you know i bought all of that shit outside the dope
my halloween stuff is up right now i was like what is fuck wrong with you i said when i get back i'm
gonna need the candles hung on the porch but you you just i don't want 30 days i spent a lot of
money for this year i need at least at least 60 days all right yeah september september one that's
it verdict yeah my christmas trees will be up next month i won't light them up but they're gonna be
up because i'm gonna have 15 trees this year well those are just trees then they're christmas trees
but not without the lights oh they be no yeah they couldn't be fully decorated oh fully decorated
fully decorated in october in october wow yeah i grew up without christmas trees so i i love
christmas i uh i was uh engaged to uh a non-jewish person and it was the only chance i had of being
around christmas trees but now i'm married to a jewish person and so there's no christmas trees
and it was the one purse perk of dating a non-jew the one the one in purchase jewish people don't
like christmas trees well so it's controversial but but when jews have christmas trees uh it is
frowned upon why because it's like we didn't fight to get all the way over here for christmas trees
so we're not gonna fight for christmas trees we're gonna fight to get all the way over here for christmas trees
for you to put out one of these goyish christmas trees all right that that's how we feel about it
y'all don't fucking like christmas tree no no and i just want to be clear
we love the christmas trees candles yeah we have candles we like them we like them but we just
think it's we have to preserve our our culture and heritage by not what the fuck have a christmas
tree did to you well a lot of people have the christmas trees haven't been nice over the centuries
but we love christmas trees and we love christmas trees and we love christmas trees and we love
christmas trees it's not a disrespect for the christmas trees it is that it feels like somebody
beat y'all with a christmas tree i'm sure it's happened i'm sure it's happened next up female
olympians are uh pretty upset over sydney sweeney's butt naked ads for sports betting huh have you
seen this yeah i saw that they are upset that that she's trying to keep a job i mean she's getting
paid to promote this sports betting app but some of the the the female olympians are saying uh that
they're that they don't like that this is being used to to push people towards sports betting what
do you think sports betting yeah it's an app for it's a it's a it's a way to bet on sports i know
what that is no i know but this i'm saying she's promoting an app called novig which is a way to
bet on sports and they had to get a butt naked for them to spend the money i i think so what would
you go over there and bet without saying that well i that doesn't do anything for me you gay yeah
and you jewish yeah and you don't like christmas trees and you don't like christmas trees and you
know you fucked up
that's the verdict next up after years of posting selfies martha stewart posted on instagram monday
i've been thinking about releasing my nudes is that martha stewart that's martha stewart
who the fuck poor martha face back like that
martha about 99 years old she's 85 should she release her nudes
who wants to see that old rickapuss
i mean that face is tight but that pussy is hanging
i guarantee you that pussy got feet
that pussy got more wrinkles in it than my motherfucking pants
and that pussy can't even be saved with olive oil
i don't give a fuck how you pull that fake back you can't you can't do that to a pussy i got a
pussy you can't do that no you can't they couldn't do something no you get the fucking round your
click fall off at 90.
yeah that you can't be and i'm going through middle power so one side of my pussy is dry
and the other side is juicy so you gotta be careful how you fuck around because that other
side get too brittle and fall apart no martha you see she got them lips and can't suck a dick
because she 90 she get a headache i thought you said you were going to be kind of free and just
say what you think i feel like you're really holding back what the fuck you care you don't
like crematory all right everybody thank you to mr.
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my next guest asked the question that america needed answered which was did i do that please
welcome to the stage jaleel white hi thank you for being here guys nice to meet you
no no i know i was trying to wait on you you should have you i should have said you i you
were right i was wrong and that's been that up and down shit i'm old well you guys what you were
uh in a couple episodes of miss pat show uh how'd he do he didn't fucking do it he didn't do it
great did i did i pass the sniff test what sniff did my skills hold up over the years my sitcom
skills yes he was fucking great you hey you just i'm the motherfucker that can't act
it was a good time what's it like working with miss pat oh pat is she's wildfire she's wildfire
on the set um but it's fun everybody on the set is allowed to speak up there's no there's no phony
hierarchy um you know you can catch a joke from anywhere uh
her showrunner jordan is terrific they got a well-oiled machine she's trying to downplay it
but you don't stay on the air for six seasons without knowing what you're doing yeah oh thank
you now you're also hosting totally 90s house on hgtv where a bunch of stars from 90s shows
get together to renovate houses that are stuck in the 90s yes uh how has it been coming together
for that reunion it's fun i mean i've known all the participants since we were very little from
my version of a high school reunion you know oh because i didn't know the concept of the show he
didn't tell me it was like the kids stars from the 90s so now you just think you should pull
on oh i can't wait to watch that i know it's a fun watch it's a fun way it's a competition show
so you've got um two teams of uh of stars from the 90s that have picked their home and they've
got it renovated with the money we give them and there will be a winner uh so now in your memoir
growing up urkel you told a story about what happened to you when you were a kid and you
got to college and a ta was discussing 90s sitcoms without realizing that you were in the class so
you're sitting in this class i first of all can't believe that i can't believe you're in a college
class and there's a ta talking about sitcoms mentions you but doesn't know that you're in
the room oh yeah no it's very easy i mean hey you're talking about ucla so you know class sizes
can be upwards of you know 200 300 uh it's probably a good buck 50 that day and uh she
just started making her way down you know the the different decades and as soon as she started
getting into the 90s i was like uh-oh here we go and sure enough she brought up my character and
what she thought of it what and she was pretty she was she did not like steve steve no no she had a
very academic uh assessment of the character that just didn't come from a place of reality at all
about how the business functions uh it's really funny when you get to college because you hear
the professors give you their opinions and they're like oh my god i'm not gonna do that
their academic takes on things.
And it's like, come on, that's not the way it works in the real world.
So I actually just shut my mouth and somebody told her at the end of the class, you know, that I was there.
And she came up to me and, you know, wanted to apologize.
But it was one of those moments where I was very grateful that we did not have camera phones back then.
What did she say?
No, she said I was a Sambo.
She said my character was a non-threatening character that was specifically designed to create comfort with white people.
She would play?
Of course.
Oh.
I'm like, that's a stretch.
A, it was not, the character was not nearly as, you know, I always call the character a happy accident.
You know, they develop these shows and to the best of their ability, they try to find an audience.
And back then, one of the mistakes, though, that was frequently made is, you know, there would not be a lot of black writers on these shows.
And for certain concepts, it would just shine through.
So I always say what my character did.
What my character did was my character gave the white writers something to write that I would just kind of turn on its head and make black.
And it just, it literally, it was like my character really just brought the writer's room and the cast together.
And then the fighting kind of stopped.
Remember Stefan Urkel?
I catch a, listen, the cool thing about it, I catch a lot of love from everyone.
Yeah.
That's the thing I probably value most at this point in my life, that it doesn't matter what neighborhood I go into.
At this age, everybody loved the show.
Everybody watched the show for whatever reason, you know, that they were drawn to the show.
Yeah, because it's because I.
Whether it was Stefan or Steve or whatever it was that, you know, that I've really landed nicely in a place with millennials that I really appreciate.
Well, I do that.
But it's interesting, right?
Because in that story, it's like, oh, this was, you know, something to make white people watching it feel comfortable.
I was one of those little white kids watching it.
And I loved Family Matters.
And whenever, whenever you would get to be Stefan.
Or Kel, that was the coolest fucking thing.
It was like.
I like the lean in.
It really was.
Like if you were watching a Stefan or Kel episode of Family Matters, you knew you were in for a good fucking time.
In the same way that like when Bebe Neuwirth would show up on Frasier and play Lilith, you're like, oh, that's a Lilith episode.
This is going to be awesome.
But I feel like it was a chance for you to like not be this sort of stereotypical nerd and get to be like kind of actually a heartthrob, which you kind of were outside of the show.
Yeah.
First of all, I appreciate the words.
Thank you.
But, you know, our job was to have fun.
They would throw different things at me every week.
OK, you're going to play Elvis.
You're going to play Bruce Lee.
You're going to play this.
And, you know, on Monday, I didn't have the confidence.
And by Friday, my showrunner had effectively convinced me that I could pull it off.
And that was the acting exercise that took place every week.
And we also tackled a lot of tough subjects that a lot of people don't necessarily we get credit for.
But forget about the credit.
If you go back and you look, you'll see from.
You know, police harassment to, you know, you know, inequality in the workplace, you know, and Laura went through everything.
My goodness.
You know, we tackle a lot of subjects, but but we did it in a way that was intentionally universal.
And I'm grateful for that because I'm the one that gets to travel now around the world.
And whether I'm in Spain, whether I'm in Germany or you name it, our show still airs, still airs to this day.
And people are learning those.
Yeah.
Lessons in watching those episodes.
That's cool.
Well, give me a residual check.
I know you got them.
So you had this extraordinary childhood of growing up on this show and you decide you're going to you're going to go to college.
I think people wouldn't expect or know that you were just going to public school throughout the time that you're doing family matters.
Right.
You're just I love that you picked up on that.
Yeah.
No, I went to public school the entire time I was on the show.
Really?
You got to have more of a normal.
A normal childhood, which I think is really cool.
Which was when I look back on it, wildly dangerous.
But that's the way my mama wanted it.
And you had wanted you to be grounded.
And your parents did a good job protecting the money, too.
And I think that's important.
Right.
Like you think they didn't.
There were rules that protected a certain amount of of what kids could have.
But you were able to make your parents put put away the money that you had earned.
You didn't even know how much you had.
It was so funny.
My mom never told me how much money that I made on the show until I was 15.
So I'd probably done about six.
Sixty something episodes before I ever found out what my salary was.
But what was even funnier was if I needed money, my mom still was a bit of a control freak, though.
And she would always just give me three hundred dollars, you know, whatever I needed.
She was like, here, here, take three hundred dollars.
She gave me three hundred dollars.
But like that's a lot.
At the time.
No, at the time.
Exactly.
That was a nice amount of money.
So it pretty much covered anything I ever needed is, you know, I would get this three hundred dollars.
And then I remember the first time I ever went to an ATM with my boys in college.
And first of all, I made the mistake of.
I was standing way too close to them while they were at the machine trying to type in their PIN code.
They were like, you need to back up.
I had never been before.
And then I stick in my card and I realized three hundred dollars was the amount, the maximum amount that you could get from an ATM.
So that's all she had been doing is just going to the ATM and getting the maximum amount.
So just innocent stuff like that probably went on for too long, but saved me a dollar.
That's cool, though.
But what's interesting about that, though, is right.
Like, no, no parent would ordinarily just give their kids three hundred dollars.
All the time, which is it's a strange thing about about your success at such a young age.
Right. Which is that your parents are doing a good job of keeping you grounded, putting you in school, sort of raising you well.
But also there seems to was there a little part of those like.
Our our son's fucking rich, you know, most kids don't get through three hundred, but like we're going to give him three hundred.
I don't know. I just it depends on what you get into.
Like, you know, my curfew always followed my shoe size in my grade.
So, you know, in the 12th grade, I was.
I was begging just to stay out till 1230 anyway.
So it wasn't like I was really getting into too much.
I remember, may he rest in peace.
Malcolm Jamal Warner and and Michelle Thomas probably were the first people to take me out on the town and break curfew.
And they took me to a record industry party that had a lot of rappers and a lot of booze and a lot of everything.
And I was kind of a rule follower.
My mom had scared the living crap out of me that if I did anything, I would lose the show.
I would lose my money or whatever.
So I just didn't do a lot of things until I got.
Into my early 20s.
And I got overseas and I'll start to start hanging out with some ballplayers.
And then life changed drastically and quickly.
Is there advice you would give to kids that are, say, like sort of working on one of Miss Pat show when you're like, you know what I mean?
Are there things you would say to them that like to say, like to make sure that they understand?
Well, the kids on her show, first of all, are phenomenal.
They're all they're all looked after.
And it will be no funny business on that set at all.
Oh, no, I told him from day one.
If you date, you're fired.
I don't want no fucking problem.
They're all they're all great kids on our show.
But, you know, ultimately to any kid that's performing these days, you know, it's it's a different landscape to kids today.
I really say, you know, teach yourself to be a filmmaker.
Start creating your own content.
But also don't forget that this is a profession.
Try to find people who have done this before you.
They have the experience to mentor you and share because just making skits and getting going viral doesn't make you a professional.
You know, they're.
I either there there's there there reaches a point where whatever talent you have could be exposed for, you know, lack of experience if you haven't been shown the roads by people who've done it before you.
So, you know, I think that's what I would say to kids also.
And also do it.
Don't do it for money.
Do it because you feel like this is there's a calling here.
So there is a certain kind of story in a sitcom like that.
But also, I think these days, a lot of the news seems like it could be from a sitcom.
Which is why we're going to play a game.
We're calling you take the good.
You take the bad.
You take them both.
And there you have the game we're playing today.
OK, Pat, Jaleel, I'm going to read you a long line.
You're going to tell us that this is the plot of a 90s sitcom episode or something that just happened in real life.
Are you ready?
OK, I'm ready.
Fire away.
Let's go.
All right.
First up, a performance arts center is threatened with bankruptcy unless it agrees to let a comically greedy villain put his name on the side of it.
That's Batman.
She said that's Batman.
It's Batman.
It's vaguely the plot of break into electric boogaloo.
It's close.
It's close.
I think that's a that's a headline today.
You're right.
You got it.
Yeah, that's a headline.
The Kennedy.
So that's the Kennedy Center and Trump.
A judge on Tuesday barred Trump from putting his name on the Kennedy Center.
And now they voted.
To close it indefinitely.
The Kennedy Center.
They voted to close it.
Yeah.
To renovate it.
Yeah.
What?
The Trump appointed board.
They voted today.
To close the Kennedy Center?
Not not not permanently, but they're going to they're basically.
They're renovating it.
They lying?
I wish Kennedy get up with that hole in his head and hunt the shit out of him.
Oh, I should have said it out loud.
Next up, a young actress gets her big break with a high profile network interview.
The only problem, she doesn't exist.
Hmm.
What do you think?
What do you think, Pat?
It's got to be today.
Yeah.
That's right.
This week, NBC News aired an interview with Tilly Norwood, the A.I.
actress they keep trying to try to make happen.
Here's a clip.
Do you have opinions on what's happening right now in the Middle East, in Gaza?
Chloe, that's a very heavy topic.
And honestly, it's not something I'm really equipped to discuss.
My world is a bit more about creative expression and the magic of filmmaking than the complexities of.
global politics.
wow that is that is exactly what a studio executive would want every actor on earth to say
and that's the problem that we are a long ways off from ai characters being the main character
and uh you think we're a long way off i think so i did now music is different because music
is audible um i think the younger generation is going along with chart topping ai is one song on
ai that i cannot stop listening to so i already know and my my sister like you shouldn't listen
they're not real i said but the bitch is hitting all the right exactly exactly and it's a song
i did not say this applies to music but when it comes to film and television
we just we we have such a keen eye that we're we're searching for the truth
when we're watching and i want to know if you turn actors into ai who y'all gonna run up for
an autograph the bitch can't come outside the stream next up a working
class populist starts a cult in order to get out of paying taxes oh that's today
shit you should answer that that is that is a sitcom that's al bundy on married with children
starting the church of no ma'am after realizing that by becoming a church they would be get tax
exempt status on beer purchases what i wasn't allowed to watch married with children when i
was a kid i love it i wasn't allowed i was nine o'clock yeah yeah but because you're a couple
years older so you're just i was younger than you and so for me it was like just it was it was like
so it was like considered the most raunchy vulgar thing oh it was so good for me to cut off was
generally just time oh yeah it was in mind i had a hard cut off at nine o'clock i had to do some
heavy negotiating to watch a different world and family ties you couldn't watch your own show no
no a different world was a different show that was oh okay did you do you ever watch it yeah we would
watch the shows while we watch it now while we were um i went back and i actually watched the
first season during pandemic oh okay i i really i i enjoy watching the growth between episodes 12
and like episodes 18 i'm like a different person yeah i can't watch myself i was just calling rurs
uh next up a nerd almost dies in space after a satellite crashes into his rocket but saves the
day in the end man that's my show yes that is the last episode of family matters i cannot believe so
i cannot believe in the last episode of family matters they send you to fucking space
i like it i like it talk to the execs how many seasons was it nine years 215 episodes
215 years 215 episodes yeah i actually just crossed the thousand episode mark for episodic
television this year
so i've done over a thousand and over a thousand episodes of just episodic television if i count
the 520 from flip side uh 215 from family matters over 100 for sonic the hedgehog and then all the
guest appearances that i've ever done wow that's amazing well thank you jaleel totaling 90s house
airs on wednesdays on hgtv i want to i want to some of those 90s trends are just on the verge
of coming back so hey you know it could be you know it's interesting and that's also streaming
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hold on tight because it's time now for that cherished love it or leave it tradition the
rant wheel oh my god here's how it works we'll spin the wheel wherever it lands one of us will
have a chance to rant for 60 seconds on any topic of our choosing are you ready yeah all right let's
spin the wheel julia what would you like to rant about for 60 seconds oh my gosh what am i going to
rant about for 60 seconds um i i think i would like to see natural bodies trend again i i was
looking at a post not too long ago and it had all the names of nia and lark and stacy and the daniels
twins and i'm like man natural bodies would be nice to celebrate again you know i'm saying just a
a good natural titty you know i did it doesn't even doesn't even matter the the size you know
it can be itty bitty i don't care it's part of the committee you know i know she's blessed with a lot
of naturalness over here uh you know uh you know but natural but you know what i'm saying like all
those women in the 90s just look different man it's it's amazing uh less transforming and maybe
it'll prevent you from meeting another decepticon out there yeah that's a good idea we are what we
attract all right let's spin it again
pat what would you like to rant about um my kids i have six six girls and i'm tired of them um
being nasty i hate musty kids and they just dirty and kids don't like showering anymore you gotta
be nice with them when you tell them their ass stink and they get mad because i'll be like your
ass stink and they want me to say it like a baby i smell you puka puka no your ass stink when you
get when you get hair on your vagina it's a
pussy so you should keep it clean and so you got 30 more seconds
i just you know just dirty ass kids hey you know i just hate dirty kids they filthy they don't
clean up their rooms and they hide their shit in their room and they don't empty trash cans
i'm sick of kids and i just i was like use them if y'all knew how i grew up y'all would appreciate
this shit and they just eat in their room and hide shit up on their pillows i just fucking hate kids
and i understand
why people tie their tubes
you thought i wasn't gonna make it through i got a lot of shit i didn't say i want you to know
something it was never a worry that you wouldn't be able to fill 60 seconds not something that ever
crossed my mind to be afraid of all right let's spin it one more time i wonder where it's gonna
land i wonder where it's gonna land oh so uh so i interviewed uh steve hilton who's running for
governor in california we're also for a pod save america we're also trying to get javier becerra on
tough guy to book and i actually appreciated the conversation uh uh he is a guy that's supported
by trump i obviously think that someone who is willing to support trump that raises uh deep
questions about whether you could trust them to be the governor of this state but he reached out
actually we didn't reach out to steve hilton steve hilton reached out and said i want to come and
talk to pod save america which i actually is i think is i i respect he wants to he's willing to
kind of put himself in in front of a more progressive audience in a show that's going to be a tougher
conversation but i thought it was good to talk to him and i've been surprised by the number of
people who continue to say something along the lines of like oh why are you platforming this
person uh because i feel like that was a term that was kind of that's been a bit abused because
it's not about elevating someone who doesn't have a platform this is someone who is the republican
nominee for governor he has a platform we are trying to ask questions understand uh if he
if he deserves another i think sometimes the platforming conversation uh uh
goes beyond i think what it should be about which is not allowing kind of really drawing a line at
like the way you know really drawing a line about acceptable debate but instead just i don't want
you to expose other people to people that i think are wrong as if you can't trust other people to
adjudicate a person's views and make their own judgment in a way that would align with yours so
i don't like this thing of why would you platform people can i ask you a question
yeah do you think there's a difference between republicans
and mega yeah i do i do too i do i really do i i think it's some scared ass republicans that
will not speak up and sitting in the back knowing that things are wrong but don't have the power to
speak up and then you have some crazy mega motherfuckers that's just out front who acting
like fucking
food and just say oh we got racism back and white boys are cool and they've been oppressed and all
this bullshit but i do think it's a difference between republicans and and uh a fucking maga
maga is racist republicans are scared i think there's there's i think there's truth to that
i will say though one lesson i take from sort of the last 10 years is i used to think that
difference mattered more that what was in people's hearts mattered more yeah and i always felt like
oh you can really tell the difference between a republican that really loves trump and a republican
who's afraid and is pretending to love trump but especially as we've been going through this for
such a long time and so many people have refused to speak up actually what you say and do is who
you are not what you how you feel is beside the point if you are pretending to be a maga person
there's no difference there's no moral difference you are a maga person as far as the world knows
and there's a kurt vonnegut wrote this book about a guy that was pretending to be a nazi
in nazi germany
and he said that uh be careful what you pretend to be because you are you are what you pretend to be
and i think a lot of these republicans are what they pretend to be so i know that there's a
difference in their hearts maybe but it doesn't matter when their actions empower someone like
trump you know that's how i feel about it i think i try i try not to clump them all together i say
some people are republicans and just and it's it's even bad when you when you know something
is going wrong and you don't fucking speak out or they shit you down and you can't do anything it's
like the democrats they can't do shit right now because we don't have the majority we don't have
this and that so you know i just i hate when people clump them all together i think maga
are a bunch of crazy hidden motherfuckers that don't rose to the top they're a bunch of maggots
that float now yeah i think it also matters in like how we try to kind of figure out what's next
right because we should remember that even if trump won the election there are a lot of diehards
but the whole but the majority of the country they even
you know let's say there's a third of the country that are true maga right there's a lot of people
that are persuadable that we can try to get back which i think is is important and kind of part of
what you're you want them back well we gotta win we need a couple of them to win well i think i
think people are crossing over because i think what happened is it the people who voted that
away at first it has come to regular people door and what i'm saying oh my god he's gonna do this
they said hold on why this shit at my door so now it's that they don't they was like well this ain't
like the farmers well this i'm gonna lose my farm what they've been on your fucking land for the uh
for those data center but you were just too stupid to realize didn't you i think the farmers really
got fucked when they brought that fake beef in here so oh yeah that old that old that old frozen
oh that old frozen beef dude i'm i got a farmer i got a guy if you need some real meat he got cows
i'm black i got everything you need except that dugout bag at your front door i just wouldn't
have thought yeah i don't i don't know when you said like i'm not gonna let her get away with that
miss pat will have a deep conversation with you but still try to sell you something in the middle
of the conversation
i don't know if you're gonna let her get away with that but still try to sell you something in the middle of the conversation
i also just like i've never i've just not i've never honestly like i'm black so obviously i have
access to secret beef what that's not like on the list of things i'm aware of that are like black
that's like is that like do you eat beef i always need beef but i'm just saying i didn't wouldn't
have thought it was a black thing to have access to secret beef yes is it it's fucked up out here
i got the good beef i know i know a black farmer where can we where can we buy your good beef oh
it's online i know somebody i knew it was online
you
we didn't think it was in your trunk all right we'll be right back
and we're back
now it's time for a segment we call second thoughts here's how it works this has been a 10 out of 10
show all right you've gotten it all right yet the producers believe i may have made a mistake now
and again if you can imagine it and so i have a list of places where the producers of this show
during the show have decided i could have done a better job and i'm going to share
them with you now okay as part of second thoughts um first up i lied about having a wife
to who uh to the audience uh uh i did a russian accent without asking my close russian friends if
it was okay uh it wasn't it wasn't good it was great can we hear it uh i uh i slut shamed lassie
the dog okay uh
let's see oh uh during our segment i disparaged the webbies uh oh as a gay person i should be
more enthusiastic about celebrating halloween early you were right you know you wanted to
celebrate halloween early and i was a bit of a i was a bit negative about that and i'm sorry
so you should be you should have more energy because you're gay yeah we're a sort of celebratory
and we like we love costumes you know and parties so you're a freak i don't i don't think yeah i mean
sure but not about this oh okay well gay people get more happy i mean my hair makeup they gay
they don't like halloween do you guys like halloween they like to trick or treat they
like to trick or treat they like to trick or treat he said it's so good with the deep voice
we like to trick or treat yeah that's why i want to come to my door for candy a big old strong
let's see i valid jamil i validate one of one one regret i have is that i did validate uh your
professor your ta's claim that his character made white people comfortable by saying that
i really liked i really like that character i don't agree with that i i don't agree with this
no forget about that lady man she probably doesn't even have a job at this point did you graduate
yes i graduated oh what you what did you fuck you go to major in when you already had a career
it was a bit redundant but i did it to make my mom happy and i graduated with a degree in film and
television from ucla you already had a fucking degree in film i just prefaced it and said it was
a bit redundant what i did who the fuck gonna get a degree when they was already doing something
a boring rich person i'm gonna i'll make sure to give you my mama's number though i would love
you got a black mama we have to fight we're good and uh i'll tell you something i actually have no
regrets about tonight other than that this show is now over that is our show thank you so much
there are 48 days until the midterms and we'll be back this friday with hassan piker and andrew
zimmern love it or leave it is a crooked media production our show is produced by kendra james
bill mcgrath kelsey gante and me john love it our production team includes hallie heifer sarah
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Anteaters have evolved on 12 separate occasions, highlighting unexpected biological diversity.
AI experts like Dario Amadai, Sam Altman, and Elon Musk warn of risks from recursive self-improvement, sparking debate over regulation.
Political figures including Trump dismiss AI threats as conspiracies or exaggerations, emphasizing their own influence over technology.
A high-profile wedding involving Donald Trump Jr. raised questions about Russian oligarch involvement and political corruption.
The U.S. government faces criticism for opposing AI regulation, with concerns over corporate power and lack of public oversight.
A viral AI actress interview at NBC reveals deep skepticism about AI replacing human performers in film and television.
A bizarre incident at a high rocks fitness event where an athlete experienced incontinence sparked backlash and a formal apology.
Miss Pat shares her personal journey from poverty and survival to success in entertainment, emphasizing resilience, humor, and social justice.
Summary:
This episode of *Love It or Leave It* blends bizarre, humorous, and deeply political commentary on current events, technology, and culture. It opens with fascinating facts like anteaters evolving 12 times, then pivots to urgent AI debates, where experts warn of runaway self-improving systems, while figures like Trump dismiss such concerns as fear-mongering. , and the ethical implications of AI in media, where a fictional AI actress interview exposes public skepticism about AI replacing human actors.
The episode also features a satirical take on fitness culture after an athlete pooped during a competition, sparking outrage and a public apology. Meanwhile, Miss Pat shares her powerful personal journey—from growing up in a violent, crack-ridden neighborhood to becoming a successful comedian and advocate—emphasizing resilience, authenticity, and the importance of speaking truth, even when it's inconvenient. The show also highlights ongoing issues like AI regulation, political manipulation, and systemic inequality, concluding with a call to support access to healthcare and personal freedom.
Through sharp satire and heartfelt storytelling, the episode critiques power structures, celebrates underrepresented voices, and reminds listeners that humor and truth can coexist.
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Experts like Dario Amadai, Sam Altman, and Elon Musk warn that AI systems could undergo recursive self-improvement, making them uncontrollable or unpredictable, raising fears about loss of human oversight.
Critics claim the warnings are part of a 'psychoploy' on the left to scare governments into creating regulations that would benefit established, larger firms rather than innovative startups.
Trump dismisses AI threats, claiming the only needed guardrails are a strong and intelligent president, and he asserts that AI won’t take over the world, calling such fears 'absurd'.
ProPublica reported that the wedding was secretly paid for by Russian oligarch Umar Kremlev, who rented a private island and covered event costs, sparking allegations of foreign influence.
The esthetician described personalized treatments for Don Jr. and the bride, but later died in a freak accident allegedly caused by a Russian man, leading to a dark commentary on the event's safety.
An Australian athlete experienced bowel incontinence during the competition and was still allowed to finish, leading to criticism over unsanitary and unfair conditions.
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