The Markiplier Episode

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What you are about to see is a raw, uncut, third attempt at a Markiplier episode as our final guest episode on chuckle sandwich. We had some run-ins with Mark before. Safe to say they were not good enough to post. But we figured as the podcast is coming to an end next week, we would post this one for you all to watch. Please be advised that the imagery that you may see on your screen may be shocking and disturbing, it may be upsetting to children under the age of 12. It may be upsetting to people over the age of 12. In fact, it may be shocking to everyone from 0 to 120 if someone could even live that long. My grandma didn't, because she was killed by Andrew Cuomo. Well, here it is everybody, the Markiplier episode. Welcome to chuckle sandwich. Hi, Mark. Hey, Mark. Do you start? No, no, no, no, no, no, we're going. We're going, aren't we? It's great to have you back for the third time on the chuckle sandwich on chuckle sandwich podcast. Okay. You have piercing eyes. I mean, Mark is here on the pod for the third time. Here we go. We and it's so glad. I'm so glad. Take it. It's pleasant. Fucking get it together. I'm pleased to have you here right now, Markiplier on chuckle sandwich. Um, how is the drive? The drive did you want to talk about LA traffic? Okay. Well, I, it could be better. I'm sorry. He did that. I'll talk about it. It was not going to show up anyway. It's no one's going to see it. So what does it matter? Well, this, we were hoping this one would be good that we could post. Yeah. I really like to post this one. We were committed, Mark. We are committed to making sure this goes out in the world at, I mean, you know, what's in the past is in the past, you know, right. We got to, we'll set our eyes forward. We'll forget. We'll let bygones be bygones. I, sorry, sorry, I came up with a couple of questions. If we want to strike that segment, that would be great. Yeah. They do. All right. Do you like intramus aggressions, not currently, I mean, we usually edit that in, you should go send them that. Do you want to hear it? Yeah, just let me know when we're ready to go because I don't, I just, I need to get the interview up. We're, we're going, we're ready, man. We are here. Markiplier's on the podcast. Everyone. Right place. Hello. Yes. Yes. And we're so happy to have you here. And we have questions for you. And Mark, I was, ever since I saw, let me interrupt you. Okay. I just wanted to say, thank you, both of you for, uh, it's great to have an opportunity to reinvent who you are and reintroduce yourself because there's no opportunity for a second introduction. Absolutely. Is it saying about that? Um, I think everyone deserves a second chance or a third. I mean, there's, there's some, as long as forgiveness exists, chances also do we don't need to forgive. Oh. Okay. Anyway. Yeah. Questions. Yeah. Uh, this is something that I've been thinking about ever since I saw you on my computer for the first time back into, I think it was twenty, thirteen with an app, fun that if, uh, I'm sorry, five nights of Freddy's, um, and I was just watching the videos and I was like, man, this guy, he, he really seems like he knows what he's doing, you know, and, and I, as I followed you over the past decade, really, um, it, it's only just grown in my mind and I, I can't help but ask Mark, where, where do you get your ideas from? Like, playing five nights of Freddy's? Well, like, okay, so like, say an idea comes up in your head, like what, what happens before that? Like, what, how do you, before I have the idea to make, like, like, like, like, say, like, say, I want to play five nights of Freddy's, right? Where does that come from? How do you, how do you think that? I, I don't just, I don't just play five nights of Freddy's. I do a lot of other things. Well, yeah, that's why I said ideas, but you said about five nights of it. Yeah, I always use that as an example, sir. You should have just clarified more than this. Five nights of it. When you think of like, okay, let's use, uh, my, uh, Iron Long as an example, your movie, right? What, where does that idea come from? Where does that idea come from? What? Iron Long is a game. Yeah, it's a game. What's, the movie called, you know, it's, it is, uh, the online, like, click on it and then I download it and then I play it and that, that idea comes from, yeah, it's not even an idea. Okay. It's just what made you, like, you know, I, I, some, yeah, I do it. I've been doing it in a full time for like five years. I just actually just passed the five year mark, Mark. You guys usually never like this. You guys seem really nervous. No, Mark,iplier, no, we are professionals. This is, we've been doing this for four years. Uh, okay, we've been doing this four years. We are experienced at this and we, and you're, and you know, Mark, you're a titan of the industry. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Yeah, thanks. Lot of people are like, what's he, where's Mark? What's he going to do? Yeah. Uh, where's Mark? Sir. Is that the question? No, well, I mean, the, the question is the question that I was going to ask you is, like, I mean, where does it, I mean, we know where Mark and, but where does Mark and, and where does he go? Where do we die? Well, it's, I hope that never happens. We, we hope, we hope you'll never, it's going to happen to everyone, but we hope, yeah, but we're, yeah, no, that was great. We hope you never die though. We don't ever want you to die, Mark. I'm gonna. We can't stop that. We're, oh, that's true. Yeah, you're going to, yeah, you're going to die. You seem more sure about that one than you seem to. with him. - I don't know. He seems like he's got life left in his eyes. - What's this tears? Are you crying? - I'm not, I'm not. I'm sorry, I have allergies. - We've, um, so yeah, I mean, I hope that when I die, that it's something heroic, it'd be shame if it was boring or something like that. - A Viking staff. - No, I don't want to be at the wall. - You're right, that's stupid. That's stupid. - Maybe like an alien invasion or something like that. - Oh, okay. - That'd be nice. - Well, you know, we're like a heart attack or something. - That's how my grandpa's did it. - I've had one before. - Oh yeah. - Like a real one? - Yeah. - You had a heart attack? - Yeah. - Why? - We ask my heart, I don't know. - Actually, we don't have a heart attack or a real reason. - I hear, sorry. - Sure. - Look, I was drinking, I can't drink, right? 'Cause I'm half Korean and I discovered this by having a heart attack, right? - I know. - Yeah, so I was. - Just put it in a green, put the fuckin' shit away, put the fuckin' shit away, put the fuck away, put the fuck away. - You're half Korean? - Yeah, so I can't drink. - Uh-huh. - Yeah, 'cause, um, yeah, I'm saving. - Thank you. - Is that, what are the aspects of being Korean? Is that, what is that, why? - Which, 'cause they don't drink. - They don't? - In Korea, no, dude, it's illegal. - No, Korea is like the second highest consuming alcohol per capita company in the world, country, in the world. But half of the population has a genetic defect where they can't break down alcohol, probably. - I think this is Asian flesh, you know. That's probably what makes it so fun. - Go on. Now, I wanna hear the end of this thought. - Well, 'cause, like, if you can't break it down, and it stays in your system, that means you get more time with it. - Yeah. - Right? - So fun. - Yeah. - But it means not for you, because you and Ted, fucking talking to him. - 'Cause you had a heart attack because of it. - Yeah, well, alcohol's broken down in two-stage process. So first, alcohol's broken down to acetaldehyde, which is actually a carcinogen and a poison. Then that's broken down into sugar and water. - Okay. - So what is the problem in this deficient enzyme is the second stage of the process doesn't happen as quickly as it should, so that my product acetaldehyde builds up in your system and that can cause a lot of issues, cause flushing, it's more of an inflammation reaction, kind of like an allergic thing. It's actually quite unpleasant. - That's not fun. - It's not fun for him to try it. - Yeah, not fun. - I'm sorry. - So, sorry, I said the thing about Koreans. What did you say about Koreans? - No, that it was illegal to drink. - Oh, that's fine. - That's fine. - Yeah, that's fine. - Okay. I mean, there's been so many mark hares over the years, hair from markiplier. Markiplier has so many hares of dues. Right now you've got long hair. You have short hair. Are we ever going to see red hair markiplier? Again. - I caught one. - Oh, you sure that's mine? - Anyway, yeah, this is. - Yeah, I had dyed hair a long time ago. At this point, that's about the same age as you know. - One with the bottom left. That, let's say that hair thing is so long ago it was before you even were doing content. So it's like a lifetime ago. - Wow. - Yeah. - I don't mean to correct you, but I have been doing content since I was like 11. - Were you? - Yes. - Were you really? - Yes, but not professionally. - Not professionally. - No, not as a job. - Yeah, I had a camera. - I had a camera. - My mom looking me. - I had a camera. I was always very content. - Okay, here's what me and my buddy would do. We'd get together and we'd film with my dad, he's webcam, and we'd run around and do, psh, psh, psh. And we'd photoshop a single frame of a muzzle flare again, 'cause we saw this Freddy W video. That was really cool. - Yeah. - Called Claymore's, where he sits when a Claymore's down, he shoots people. And I was like, I know we should do that. But that didn't start making money until like 2019. But that's like, you know, like I was still doing it. - You were 11 in 2019? - No. I was 19 and 20 in 2019. - What if your favorite podcast felt like calling your funniest, most honest friend with the nicest ass? The one who tells you the truth and makes you snort laugh and pee a little. That's idiot. That's my show. I'm Laura Clary and I've been oversharing with the internet for over a decade and I'm really good at it. Every episode, we dig into the real stuff. We cover everything nobody wants to admit out loud. The moments that are equal parts humiliating and also kind of funny. Parenting fails, relationship fails, mental health fails, sobriety fail. Just kidding. We're not failing. I have zero filter and it's kind of a problem. Subscribe to Idiot for free on Apple podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you're listening right now. I'll see you there. I'm saying that I was before that like when I started I was 11 and it took me like eight years for me to start making money out of you professionally. If you started it when you were 11, what year was that? 2011. So you've been doing content longer than me. Really? No. Who's ready to play some Chinese and dragons? No, no, no, this is what I'm talking about. God, I'm fucking sorry guys, I'm sorry. Charlie, this is Charlie tomorrow. Tomorrow is Dungeons and Dragons. No, it's tomorrow. You know, you came here. That doesn't make me violate the restraining order, okay? Like, I didn't want to be in this distance. You came here, right? I'm trying to order against you. No, he has a restraining order on me. What did you do? He was a pussy. What did you do to him? I'm not legally obligated. I'm not legally obligated to say, right? I didn't make those fucking episodes live so everyone can get to play. Charlie. Is that why you left? Charlie. I'm telling you right now. Give us this chance right now. We know what happened last time. Give us this chance now. Just get. You want him on again? Okay. Just Charlie, please. We're dealing with Tucker. Please. Oh, don't. Charlie's got to go. I don't got to go. Tucker, Tucker get him out of here. Tucker, get him out of here. I don't know. I literally built a duck cast. I'm gone. You're gone. You're going. You're playing it. You love it. No, guys, guys. Keep it rolling. Stop. Keep it rolling. Stop. Chill the fuck out. Okay. I'm sick of you. Mark, I'm so sorry. Hi. Hi. You're acting like this is the first time. Okay. No, no. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I really, I just-- That's too, that's too, that's too. That's too. Just get the-- I'm out. Fucking stupid. Fuck. Oh, my ass. Tess is. Oh. Fucking shit, dude. Yeah, man. Okay. I just thought today was like, we're going to have fun. Oh, God. No, I'm sitting on dice. You're going to be sitting on a D20. You fucking idiot. I hear you were playing your stupid nerd shit. Yeah. You look ridiculous. You look ridiculous. You have a cut. You would think it was cool if it was tomorrow. Okay. And what happened to you? You were in an hour long. Great. You got better. I'm not allowed to talk to him. Charlie, I'm sorry. Oh, he's bringing up the movie now, too. You know he can't talk about the movies. Is it movie? Get out of here. What are you doing here? I'm enjoying, I'm, I'm loving the vibes. All right. Yeah, I could just zoom in here. And that doesn't exist. Dude, now you're getting my boy. The fucking marketplace. I'm so sorry. It's no, I don't want to be in, we can all be in the fucking shop. I hope it's a really slow crop that it's like slow punching. So, um, so, um, so Mark. Stop, stop. Yeah. Dude, it's so Mark. Yeah. You're, you got to know movie coming out. Yeah. And it's going to be. You're fucking. It's going to be. It's going to be good. You, you're working hard on it. Of course, it's going to be good. It's going to be incredible. Yeah. Yeah. Um, it's. Any challenge? You know what? So many. - You're right, 'cause that's the truth. - That's the truth. - After you lose, after you left. - Uh, I didn't make as much money. - Charlie, you gotta get outta here. - Dude, get him the truck. - I'm not even cropped in. I'm not even cropped in. - Dude, you gotta get the dice. - We'll see you tomorrow. - I'll go where, I'll go where, I'll go where, I'll go where, I'll go where, I'll go where, I'll go where the people when you don't want them to say, I fuck it up. - Take your stupid dice. - You're scaring the dogs, you're shaking. - Go play Google for us. I'm sorry. It's going to call the cops. This isn't how I wanted this to go. I don't think this is how any of us want to see. You were at least markiplier just want you here, and we don't want you here. It's over. You got to get over. - You are a man. - You are a man. And you're a goner. - You are a goner. - And you're 10 feet under. - Are you praying? - Hello, man. - So I think that, uh, okay, no, we're shit. - We're shit. - We're shit. - We're shit. - We're gonna reset. - We're gonna reset. - Hey, Charlie. - Can I? - Pay attention. - Pay attention. - Charlie, is he doing? - Pay attention. - We can't even see what you're doing, man. It's not even on the television. - He's a mouse. I'm using the. (sighs) - Fuck. (laughs) - I'm sorry, man. - I got another, I have another question, okay. - Did you have one before? - I. - Yeah, the idea is. - No, all right. - Was that. - Not? - No. - Okay. - But go for it, yeah. - Yeah, it's cool. - Um. (sighs) - Charlie. - Charlie. - I had it, and now you just took me out of a tent. - I'm sorry, he's blowing up Dark Applier. - This is what, if everyone opened their eyes for a second and they looked at you, this is what they. - We don't think that you're. - That's cool. - Well, all right, I'm responding to you and legally not to him. - Okay, he's not evil. - Misunderstood more than anything. - He's misunderstood. - Okay. - Yeah, there's a deeper layer in there. There's like several, several different inspirations that I draw for. - Okay. - With those characters. - It's very passionate about it. - Yeah. - Yeah. - It's just evil. - His eyes are just darkened. - Sure. - You don't try to sell this to me, it's just darkened. - No, no, no, no, no. - I'm not. - Charlie, you're scaring the dark. - 'Cause he's got, he has a little mind and it is still all possible. - You're scaring Juneau. - And I can still scaring Juneau. - You're scaring Juneau, but that is a bad man. - Okay, Charlie, you've made your point. We can talk about it another time. - Can somebody get him out of here? - We'll see you tomorrow, man. - You will see me tomorrow. And you'll see me tonight too, 'cause I'm sleeping in the studio. - Okay, you can, but we, yeah. - Okay, just give us this chance. - I'm sleeping here. - We need this chance, Charlie. It's our third try, please. - Hey, hey, poopy break, poopy. - Oh, poopy. - Sick. - I do have to go, I do actually have to go. - Okay. - Mark, Mark, we're so sorry. - We're so sorry. - Wait, which one? - We're so sorry that we did not, he was supposed to come tomorrow. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. - I was like, it's just like, the evidence is here, it's not my fault. - Okay, you're right, it isn't your fault, it wasn't, you didn't do anything. - Mark, I got a question. - We're back. - We're back. - We're back. - We're back. - Okay, so at some point over the past 10 years, you decided to get hot. What inspired that and how did you do it? Hot to plier Excuse me. Oh, okay, will you? No, Juno likes me more. Juno likes me more. Give me Juno and not you and not you Why don't we see with the dog things a mark? Put Juno. No, put Juno right here. Please Get him. What do you mean get him? Juno. Juno. Stop trying to sick the dog on markiplier, please Okay, okay, that's right. Thank you. Thanks. Charlie. Oh my god Dude, it's over. It's Your love fell off Look how dumb you look Okay Tucker yeah, I'm on it. Do you use your Marines McMat? He was the Marines. So he has the Now you got a mullet. You got all L.A. It's a mortar rustle. It's more than a more level. Hey, hey Don't let don't don't forget what they fucking took away from you. They're trying to replace me with these big beefy man So why you think you're better than me you think you're better than me You're not you're not better than me You're not no Multiple factors, right Genetics and you know all about just self-care and self-love I find that if you hate yourself you become ugly Right, right Yeah Yeah Yes, if you hate yourself, you become ugly. Yeah, that's true And so how and you love you love me. Yeah, mm-hmm. Okay. What do you love most about you? I mean Isn't it obvious? I would hope it with I want it to be so what was in it obvious your Lossious locks. No, that fuck uh your Your your your work ethic It's not a personality thing. Yeah, he is You got a nice ears He's got nice ears. Yeah, so nice ears. Everybody says that about you. All right, whatever I've looked I did research beforehand. I've seen articles. Vogue Yeah Deadline Politico, they're all saying the blaze the blaze the sun. They're all saying What's this guy's irritant? What's his irritant? What's he doing with those years? To make it so it yep I'm like wow, this is this is this is not like when he I know we didn't talk about this when we Invite him on we we're not gonna talk about his ears. We had a conversation about this. I just thought there's a lot He's just like us. Okay. I said what I'm probably a beautiful ears. Yeah, not I'm not like you guys Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Ridiculous David. I didn't that yeah, so and but just so just so I know what everyone you were implying, but just so everyone else knows yeah What do you like the most about yourself? What the thing that you like the most about yourself is The thing that you like the most about yourself is Look As much as I would like to go on and on about myself. I do Want to leave people with the impression that the wisdom that I am part on them is far more important than my looks My extremely good looks right. No, yeah, you're beautiful, but you have a beautiful mind It's not about the work ethic either. Hmm. It's about the worth like it. It's about the The puzzle of thought process that goes on in my head, you know, yeah, the absolute Maze of Intellect yeah, cacophony of of don't waste words. I'm sorry. It's my bad. You can use small words if you want Some would say smart mind big Smart mind big markiplier have smart mind uh Markiplier use three syllable words. Okay That's that that's it comes using oh my god two syllables Okay Mark welcome mark to travel sandwich. Thank you. We uh are so it's said to have you on actually we were so excited to have you on we're not afraid of you Well, maybe you should be a little bit a little bit little bit little bit. It was uh It was definitely a fun mystery You on of me sending this to just a vague email and then having you respond and it was like got it. I'll be there And like I was like I was like he's incredible. He's incredible. I literally I email so succinctly that people think I'm incredibly rude But that's because I usually in two seconds. I'm like I have to respond to this or I'll forget that's exactly what I thought I was I thought it was just like boom boom and I was like yes. Okay, we got it. Yeah, no I was but it was like this sort of it was like this You since you've been sort of like this this Guess that we both want to we wanted a that we were like, oh, what if we got mark on so like when in the process of getting you schedule I was just like it was part of the mystique of it. You okay? Yeah, there's a hair in my mouth So he's also just I see every time you open your lips on other one of the dogs hairs just goes It's going into replace. It's it's spot. You know as freaking she's lovely, but oh my god. Yeah. Yeah I don't even know if this is a guy or a girl It's a girl It was funny about this um some people I I'm pretty sure out in the youtube sphere Some people probably think that I'm so busy and unapproachable But I joke about this with Ethan all the time is like man I sure wish people would ask me to do things Yeah, but everyone is always like a box pipe busy. I don't want to bother him I mean while I am busy a lot of the time, but most times I'm really really like to do something last time you came on a podcast that wasn't one was last time I don't even know you were on impulsive two years ago yeah that was probably the last time really this is your first podcast appears in other than distractible in in two years wow that's pretty high that's pretty hot yeah that's good but it's it's mostly just because everyone just assumes I'm always so busy that's so funny time yeah so like reach out to markiplier no everyone okay and here's his email yeah well I mean something I'm I that we definitely couldn't have achieved in that in previous state that I definitely want to talk about is the fact that you've been working on your ion lung movie and as a little film school nerd myself I just want to hear about like how the I mean how did that go I mean like what I mean it was it was really fun the actual shoot of it was you know a little more rushed it should have been it was it was down to the locations we were filming in a soundstage but it's like we only had that soundstage for a little bit and we were already like pushing up against it I would have loved another week there it was not so much about the budget of just like having people there was like literally the location right because we need it is specific place because we had to you know filming in Austin there's only so many sound stages and yeah we uh we needed to basically the whole set needed to be mounted into the concrete floor because I'm at this point I've been so secretive about it like we did the whole thing on what's called a knackmo right okay a knackmo I don't know what the acronyms for but it's a big motion control rig that you can put like you know something on it and it'll move it'll move really really move fast and be able it can throw it's you can build up a set within the confines of the knackmo and basically on top of it okay and so you can get motion and that way you can have control programmable motion if you need it for certain moments like a big flight simulator not that look up a knackmo nacmo nacmo nacmo yeah I worded it to him when he because he didn't hear no no no no no no look up nacmo just nacmo motion control rig motion control rig this thing is way bigger than you think it is yeah that one top left wow that's that's a smaller version of what we have oh so you had one that was like maybe twice is they make a mini-mo a knackmo and then the max mega-mo the mega-mo or something like that and uh it's crazy like that thing is nuts um wild and so it was it was a really fun shoot and it happened oh so long ago in my mind now um and it's just been a process of you know working on it ever since yeah man so this is and this is your for it's a feature so and this is your first just your directing debut technically I suppose yeah nice wow I mean and and with the I mean I did I guess I'm curious about like the like in your head like when what was that moment like when you decided okay I'm gonna I'm gonna go out and I'm gonna make a feature like what led to that decision of like kind of take because it is a feature is such an investment and like such a you're gonna pour your whole fucking soul into something like this like I don't know I mean it with space and ice before that they're not features in a technical sense but you know from a production standpoint it's extremely similar right um the only difference is like you know linear narrative versus branching narrative is yeah it's in one's first person one's like you know obviously traditionally shot um with this one like the movie was just like a natural progression of what I wanted to do anyway and it's um it's just kind of a uh something that I guess really can teach you a lot yeah that's that's what I do everything for is I do it to learn something and so with the movie it's like there were skills in there that I did not know and I knew that I could progress in them um and it seemed like a contained enough idea that it wouldn't like it wouldn't explode in terms of complexity which it did yeah inevitably but you know but yeah it's uh yeah that's all it is yeah I feel like a lot of times in my experience with directing like when I'm working on project it it turns into like this this branching like tree of like oh but what if we do this oh but what do you think we could get something like that and it's like that conversation is and it's exciting but then it's also it's starting it can it can balloon a little bit yeah it definitely does yeah well like are you covered with saying well like some of these like these things that you learned that you didn't think that like um that surprised you uh so there's probably this probably a couple different filming styles not to get I don't know if you guys want to go to into the weeds of like filmmaking or the murder or something like that I got like 10 more stupid questions if you want to I do kind of want to hear a little bit of this of the of the time let's let him have his moment I love it I love it Mark so for me with the actually the past projects I I like discovery while you're filming you know you have your script and you have your plan and your shot list and you're like okay we're gonna do this right and they need to discover something on setting it's really nice weirdly with the branching narrative there's not room for discovery because they have to be so distinct right occasionally you can but if you do something it'll ripple yeah because it's a pre planned route even though there's multiple of them so you kind of have less discovery than you really would think with a feature you have so much discovery and I always love that part of it and it's really bad for a schedule because if you discover something like say the Nakma was actually a discovery before we started filming oh okay we had a different plan altogether for it for you know motion and stuff like that and when we realized when I was told about this by the special effects personnel and said the practical special effects personnel that they had used this before on previous features that they worked on I never even knew it existed yeah but then as soon as I looked at it was like that makes the movie that makes it can we get it right and it just so happened that yes we could and so this changed everything changed the location because we had to get a floor that we could literally bolt into right to mount it because it's so much weight being thrown around so we had to make I had to change like accommodations for the script because it has weight limits it has a very high weight limit but it does have a weight limit so you have to kind of like think about okay the entire set design has to be thought around this thing the structural integrity of the set has to be thought around this thing in the forces it's going to subject to do it because that thing can move at half a g of acceleration in pretty much any direction that's crazy that's like a that's like a NASA machine it is basically it is ridiculous why not just like shake the camera around a little bit so there's one no no no no he's not wrong because there are many times you know you can't always fire this up because it's sometimes like you need to prepare for you need lock down you can set around it yeah like get out there it's up off the ground you got to get in there and you can't just take the set off and on it it's bolted into that thing too so it's like really permanent so but so when we couldn't run it for whatever reason we were speed we had what we were called team NACMO right so that's that was nine people team NACMO they all worked they really have their shirts we had a shirt we had a shirt made for team NACMO that's awesome man oh so nice to be able to I mean I know I'm not probably not supposed to talk about this thing but I have been holding back on so many stories of this filming process that I've been yearning to tell and like these things don't spoil the story at all but it's fun to talk about the fact that we had NACMO and they were like well we need something everybody get on yeah I mean that's so great about like filmmaking is like there's so many times that you need to like Jerry rig some some absurd nonsense and create a solution I mean it's pretty much built into the veins of the grip department of like that's wild that's the wild yeah that's not even as fast as it can go that's slow really oh yeah and so the whole thing with Iron Long is that it's the at least the story of the game as far as I know is is it's about this guy who's a prisoner on this sort of submarine on a far off like on the Europa was it or like some sort of basically quite rapture all planets and all stars are gone so it's it's just right all of it's just like bear and empty rocky moons right and just so happens to be an ocean of blood on one right right like the end of the universe like what's that word the word for it yeah heat death entropy has has occurred and they call it the choir rapture wow that's that's as a as opposed to the use is so the loud rap yeah that's a loud like with a lot of lights and a lot of going to have in this is cool even for me because I like I said I mean I grew up watching kind of more a more homebrew version through Freddie W and quarter digital I mean me and Ted kind of watch the same exact shit and he decided to do the actual filmmaking around while I yeah kind of made reaction videos that's fair I did that's how I started not react videos but I tried to do same thing I was Fred to W and quarter I have a young out with the quarter or guys for have not I think I'd be scared to we did a podcast with Freddie yeah we have Freddie on which was amazing but the quarter guys I haven't I did like a mini internship over there I want to talk about that oh yeah you're watching their dishes yeah Did that prepare you in any way for this movie? Did you take any of that knowledge? - A tiny bit, the tiniest bit. I was having too much fun to actually sit down and learn anything 'cause I went into it with being like, I really wanna get a real good starter on visual effects and like the process of doing it. - Yeah. - And so that was the justification for me going over work in their office. And then it was just like, we were goofing around and making videos all. And that was good too because I don't usually do a lot of collapse if I usually just work on my own. And so being in another office and working with other people, that was really, really fun. - And I do know a lot more about visual effects than I did before. But mostly just because in the process of the best here, I've had to make a ton myself. The electrician I was telling about this morning is actually for my render farm that I've been building. - Render, for render farm. - I built a render farm, yeah. - That's awesome. - Yeah, yeah. It's ridiculous. - What are you farming? - Render. - Okay. - Yeah, make sure it's man. One at a time, friends. - It's really for simulations. Like that's more than anything. But yeah, also renders as well. And simulations are still very complex to do. You have to distribute them across a lot of computers. It's basically server infrastructure. Gotta learn a lot there. - I get scared of even the process of setting up a NAS. So like that. - Yeah. - I mean, that's crazy. - The storage is a whole other beast too. I get scared. I had a hard drive failure like a couple of weeks ago. - With the film? - Yeah. - Oh, that's horrifying. - I had backups. I had tons of backups. - Oh, but still it was the chance. - Yeah, it set me back a few days 'cause it just transferring it back onto it or rebuilding the array that I had just like took me out. - Right. - Yeah. - So I mean, I'm honestly even impressed. Like the fact that you showed up 'cause you're like in the midst of like that zone right now where you're like locked in. - Oh no, it's fine. He doesn't do anything. He just said it. - Yeah, I really am quite boring. Even though I'm working on this stuff, like it is very boring. I wake up, I go to my computer, I putts around for an hour before I'm like, "Come on, let's go have a fucking work, man." And then I start at it and I putts around some more. - And then I. - Time is spent between like the markiplier stuff and then the directorial stuff. - Right now, too much in this camp because, I don't know, because I'm editing it. You know, I'm the only person really pushing it. I mean, there are people on my team that are pushing it, but it's like it's my idea. And, you know, I brought it up. So it's like it only feels right for me to carry it through and also I love editing and I love that process. So it's just like it's gotta be a lot of self-motivation, but it's like I also take the same approach to my YouTube. - Sure. - I have a lot of editors, but I still, you know, upload do the thumbnails myself and I plan the schedule. And if I can't think about that, I can't do it. Even if the videos are there and ready. It's an ADHD thing. - I totally understand. - Tasks, which I have to like. When I work with editors, I'll have them do like 80% of the video. And then I have to come in and do like my little things. So I can like just make sure it's all cutting in the exact moments that I wanted to. - Yeah, I get that. - The good news about the YouTube side is I've been working with the Skylixian for so long. He's incredibly talented and also just like. He's like at this point in terms of YouTube editing, like I trust him implicitly. I haven't reviewed a video in. - Well, you've been working with Skylixian for like literally like 12 years or something like that. - Pretty early on, like first year, he made his first animation for me. - Yeah. - Yeah, that's awesome. - Yeah, it's been great. - Super, I'm very lucky to have him and the rest of my editors on the team. - Wow. - Gives me time to do shit like this. - Yeah, the quiet rapture. - That's effed up. You know, Mark, that's effed up. - I didn't make it. - I didn't give all the stars to the developer of the game. - Yeah, I mean, so this was. I guess I'm wondering, fucking. - Get it together, man. - Get it together. - I had a notion of a thought. This is ADHD moment right here. A notion of a thought and then you just can't get it out. Like was there more than one game that you had an interest in making? Or did you always know? It was like, I want to do Iron Long. - I mean, at first I didn't really know what I would do. I just knew, yeah, I'll make a kind of single location ish horror movie would be probably what I'm looking for. Not because that genre is like my favorite, it's just because it's manageable. - Sure. - It seems like a target that I can hit. And something that I could carry on, if I had to do a lot of stuff myself, I could probably do that. So I tried to aim for something in that target. And so this one just seemed like a natural fit. And also when I reached out to David Zamansky, he was interested. So that's also a big part of it. You know, I reach out to him being like, "Hey, everyone didn't make a movie." He's like, "What thing will he be with me?" - Yeah, he's a cool guy. I, we worked a lot together on, you know, the script and like the story, 'cause you know when he made the game, he didn't really think too much about the bigger universe. - Sure. - It's like we had to. - It was a little bit of extra world building. - Yeah, yeah. - That's fun. - Yeah. - It was. - It was very good. - That's great. - Yeah. - Hip. - Anyway, non-film stuff. - Oh. - Yeah, sorry, man. - I was just such a fucking nerd, man. - Yeah, man. - So I have about $10 million. - Whoa. - Keeps going up. - I. You have more. I'm assuming. At what point are you able, because I know you went to engineering school. I was a computer scientist. - Right. - We were probably both very analytical, kind of left-brained when it comes to, you know, the future and uncertainty and all that. At what point are you able to be like, you know what, I'm good. I can focus more on the creative stuff instead of constantly working at the nine to five. - I pretty much only do the creative stuff, but that's also how I've been this entire time. I do everything in my part and not think of what I do as a business in any way. I don't like the business side of things, so I have other people that usually take care of stuff like that. But, you know, you can't avoid it sometimes. For me, what I love about it is the process, the actual, like, mind numbing, like late night process of it. It's, that to me is everything in making things. Business side is a side effect, you know. It's the natural conclusion, you know. It's what has to happen because with this kind of stuff and making YouTube content, the way that you do it is advertising and all that stuff that you have to manage. But for me, it's always been all I care about is making things. All I want to do is make things. All I want to do is just, like, sit. I want to have as many reasons as I can to leap out of the bed in the morning. That's what got me started in YouTube is just, I was so excited that I could make something. It didn't matter what I made. Right then, it was like, I can make a let's play or I can make a compilation of my let's plays. Let's try it. So I would get out of bed because I didn't have anything like that up into that point in my life. So I've just been chasing that feeling ever since. Was there ever a moment in your career where you were like, ah, fuck, I don't really want it. Like, do you ever have a project that you were working on where it was like kind of rough? Please. Yeah, they're all rough, yeah, they're all rough. It's all hard. It all sucks. Like, man, I tell you, when I was when I was doing this month-long kind of solo excursion in Austin, I was doing pickup shots for this and I was getting some great stuff. There were days that were like peak of the peak. I was so happy. I was like, I never, I could die right now. And all I would regret is that I couldn't do this a little more, you know, and then I would have days where it was like the lowest to the low. Nothing was going right. And I'm alone in a warehouse. Like, I'm not gonna lie. There were days where I broke down crying because I'm like, I felt just worse than I ever could possibly feel. I went a whole day where nothing was right. Every single thing that I got wasn't working as soon as I tried in the edit. And I wasted an entire day doing nothing. And I was miserable the whole time because it was so hot and I was dying of sweat, lowest to the low day. Thank you, Austin. Yes, it's for that. And in a warehouse with the sun beating. So you were like, were you literally by yourself for these pickup shots? Yeah, wow. Were you shooting on? What do you say? What were you shooting on? Like the camera. Red Raptor X. Rock on. Yeah, it's very good. Yeah, but the lens is really what it's all about. Yeah, I mean, there's some expensive lenses. I used to I used to work at a camera rental house in in an at-water village. And one time I had to transport some lenses. And they were like, I think they were like, Canon K35s, they shot the handmaids telling us. These are $200,000 or $250,000 lenses. And they made me make sense. They made me go for my like insurance. So I could drive it from like that place to Alan Gordon. And it was in my like little, it's happened in my 2002 Toyota to calmer. That thing's a piece of shit and always will be. So I was like driving and I was like, [LAUGHTER] And I think it was really on the streets of Los Angeles. Yeah, but so what, do you know what lenses are offhand in each other? Yeah, they're minolta recores. So they're vintage lenses from the '70s. And they were only recently re-housed for the first time, just prior to us filming this movie. So we were one of the first features that actually shot on them. - Oh my God. fell in love with them immediately. I was never a lens guy before that, but then I was like, I got really down it 'cause I got to know my DP a lot more. And so he's big on this kind of like vintage look. And I was never like, what was the difference? And then I saw, you know, we were getting out like, oh, that's a good stuff. - Yeah, one of the good stuff. - That level of like fidelity with like the cameras and stuff. I mean, it just gets ridiculous. - So part of the past years, it's me learning a lot more about actual, the art of filmmaking, the actual like finding of those frames, the balancing of lighting and like the really engaging images that you can make. 'Cause before I thought I was like, yeah, I know my way, I get around a camera. Don tons of stuff. - Sure. - I didn't know shit when it came down to like actual cinema. - Yeah. - And so, you know, I rented this a few times and then I had rented it so much that I ended up paying more in rentals than the camera in the boss itself. So then I bought, I was like, okay, I'm gonna make an investment. I'm gonna use it for a future. I bought the Raptor before the X version came out. Two weeks before it came out. I was so mad. And then I went to, this is a whole other story. Like I went to the place I bought it from and I was like, can you please exchange it? - Can we swap it? - Can we swap it? And they're like, we can. I'm like, wait, I've done so much business with Rick. I'm here, please. And eventually they worked out something with Ritz, that's good. But yeah, it's the tools, you know, I'm not saying everyone needs this camera when they go out there, but also this is not the most expensive camera out there. - Oh yeah, I mean. - How much is this camera? - I mean, the brain? - What do you mean the brain? - No, that's what they call it. - They call that a brain? - Yeah, well, so it's like, you've got the brain there, which is just literally the, pretty much the sensor and all the connectors that lead to the rest of the camera. But then what a, what a deep year of second, or first would do is they build out and they'd, you know, put the whole camera rig around it with little Mars and then you'd get the lens on there and then you'd mock up the terror day. - That's why this transmitter, yeah. - You know, the Fizz kid, which is like, let's first AC remotely control the focus, control and stuff. There's, you can just use auto focus. - Okay, so it's not that good yet, actually. - There's been recent developments in this. - Oh, okay. - Yeah, because DJI's LiDAR focus, they recently released a standalone version of their, an upgraded standalone version of their LiDAR. I actually used it a little bit here for the first time and it was really good. - Right. - It, I was actually quite good. - Damn. - And when, I'm fucking wrong, shall I? - No, no, no, no. - I would rather have a person there doing this than trusting, I hope that auto focus got it. This is really just, you know, a situation that no one would be doing a movie in. - Sure. - When you're by yourself filming yourself, YouTube style, like you would not just want to do this for the whole thing, but in a pinch, it can work. - Yeah, I mean, I suppose if you had like, some sort of like, if you had like a mounted camera and a specific, and you only had one focus point that you were trying to keep up, but a lot of times to answer your question, usually like in film, like if you've got a long shot or something, like pulling focus and changing where the audience is looking in the frame and in the depth of it, is like, it's a time-based thing. So it's like, if auto focus, it's like, oh, it's just gonna be focused on whoever's closest in the frame the whole time. - It's an art form. - There's so many little art forms that go into filmmaking from the pulling of focus, the lighting, just the data management as an art form in itself. You know, the lens is the visual effects, the sound. Capturing sound is the biggest puzzle. Like it's good sounds. - I am so glad I'm not a sound guy. - Yeah. - All right, so you're crying on the floor this warehouse. - Yes, I am, yes. - And then you go there again tomorrow, and you do the same thing. How do you reset? - I wanna make the movie. - You wanna make the movie? - That's the only thing that I need to know is I wanna make it. It doesn't matter if I have a bad day. It's like the only reason I'm upset about the bad days because I worry that like, oh man, it's gonna set me back on making this movie. I might not be able to make it as good as I wanna make it. So like, I don't get discouraged. I get encouraged because I'm like, fuck, I gotta really dig this day because my goal is not to have a good day. My goal is to make the movie. And by focusing on that, it's supposed to the day that I'm having, even though I can't ignore it sometimes, but I wake up and I'm like, I really gotta dig today 'cause I don't have too many opportunities left to do this. - Here's a question I have that could relate to that a little bit that I thought of a little bit earlier than I thought. I think you might relate to it, but I noticed this phenomenon where, 'cause the only sets that I've done have been like, the max as of the last like three years have been like a two day shoot. So obviously, you have a lot more larger timelines that you're dealing with. But one thing I've noticed is that like, on those particular days, because there was so, I don't know if it was 'cause there was so much riding on me as a director to make everything work, but I felt like until it was wrapped for that day, I felt like I had a somewhat infinite tank of like, energy that like is, I've never felt like in any other circumstance where it's like when you enter on set, it was like, I was just going, going, going. And like I didn't, I wouldn't have noticed if I was tired or something. - It sounds like a flow state could be. But have you ever experienced that before when like, - Oh, yeah, for sure. - On set, like where you're just like. - Yeah, 'cause there's so much riding on it. The problem is when you get a longer shoot and you're the physical. You start to, it starts to take. - The flow state starts to, yeah. - This starts to be ripples in the flow. - And then your days get slower and it's like, and then you gotta, you have your weekend and you go like, I'm resetting, I'm zoning out, I go get a massage, I get to build a shot list, it'll be fine. The Monday's like, I'm Monday. And then Tuesday's like, you're los, you're los, you're los, you're los. - Yeah, so it's ups and downs. - Yeah, so on the, I imagine on the longer time on it's, maybe that flow state's a little hard to keep up, but like just as long as you get a reset, then you can keep it going. - Yeah, man. - Is it a matter of just keeping doing it every day or do you feel like the time off burjuvenates you more? - I don't know, 'cause I, this is not bragging, I don't want anyone else to actually think that this is the right thing. I haven't taken a weekend and, I don't take weekends. (laughing) So I don't think of like days off and I should, because I do believe that rest is very, very good. You cannot grind at something forever, even if you want to. But at the same time, I don't practice what I preach. I work all the time. And it's that same reason. It's like, I love it and I'm so afraid of not being able to do everything I could. So that combination is sometimes very good, sometimes very bad, you know? But yes, it's very good to take breaks, do take breaks. - It's important. - It's fair, it's so important. - I don't want this to become a therapy session, but I think, but I'll make it. - But here we go, yes. I think I reached a point where. - I think this is a good, it is suitable though. I feel like it just, based on where we're at with the pod and all that, it's kind of. - I think I reached a point where everything I had set out to achieve from a kid watching people like you and Freddie and Nico and Sam and scene actors and Woody's gamer tag, all the people I looked up to, that was all I really set my eyes on. And half my life later, you know? I have kind of achieved everything that I wanted to do in a way. And, you know, I look at a lot of the old school YouTubers who have kind of moved on and have kind of, you know, expanded their horizons past being a YouTuber, like you directing a movie. And in my head, I'm like, man, I guess, but like I, I don't know, it was always kind of just being a YouTuber for me. And now that I've kind of gotten into the swing of things, it's like, man, this feels more like a job than anything else. - Yeah, no. How old do you? - 25, 25. - I was about the same age when I had the same thing. I think it was 27. I hit my goal. - Yeah. - I wanted to be a big YouTuber, hit it, you know? Then another year goes by and you're like, okay. Now what, you know, so I actually, I was there. I'm not saying it's the same situation, but, you know, before I started doing any kind of other project, you know, 'cause you got a rumor, that for me, that was still eight years ago for me. So there were many years there after I hit my goal and I was, I was happy that I hit my goal and then I got progressively sadder because there was nowhere left to climb and it took a very long time for me to realize that it wasn't that I wanted to make movies. It wasn't that I wanted to make a choose your own adventure. It's that I thought back to why I actually started in the first place and why I actually started was not to be a big YouTuber. It's because everything in my life was out of my control. Every single thing that was going on in my life before I started YouTube was out of my control. I had nothing to hold on to. I got laid off for my job. I had a terrible relationship. I had, my appendix was removed and during that they found I had a tumor in my adrenal gland. Like all these things were out of my control and I felt miserable that I had nothing to show for all the years of that I had been alive up to that point. And so I was like, if I don't find something I will never be happy. And that's why I started YouTube. And it took me even after I hit my goal on YouTube and I had kind of thought about it. This is still like three years. I'm convincing a lot into a very long period of time. But even that, you know, it started with baby steps of like, okay, if I want to make something and take control of my life and do something that I feel is fulfilling, what is that? So I just did the same thing when I started YouTube. I didn't start with YouTube. I tried a bunch of things. I tried making a comic, programming a game. I tried learning different languages. I tried, you know, making art. I switched majors from engineering to art school just to see if it would make a difference. I tried to think again and again. I started wanting to do Freddie W's stuff and corridor didn't work. Didn't know how to do any of that. And then you got around to it in one way. Eventually, yeah. But with what I do now, it started because my brother said, hey, some people like to watch people play video games. And I was like, all right, I'll try that. Don't think it'll go anyway. You know, and that's all it was. So it wasn't that I had like this burning passion for, you know, reacting and playing games. And I like doing that stuff. But it was about, hey, this is something that I can do. And at that point, I could do nothing. So I might as well start here. And then the same kind of adventure started again once I realized I hit that goal. Very long time horizons, a lot of time to self-discovery. But it's like, yeah, that's what led me to here. It's just constantly trying to find that thing I could hold on to. - Wow, that was probably the coolest thing that you could have said to Shalat. I feel like towards the end of this podcast, that was awesome. And I'm so glad that you shared all that. - Oh, of course. - That was like, that was kind of beautiful. - Oh, man, man. - So where do your ideas come from? (laughing) - Oh, wow, thanks, man. - Appreciate it. - Oh, man, of course, yeah, if you wanna talk further about it, you know, I'm around. 'Cause like I said, when I've been there, I mean, like, I've been there. I've been year after I had that realization, desperately trying to hold on to more. Where you try harder. I had the year after that, where it's like, I don't wanna do anything. I had the year after that, where I looked at myself and the mirror and realized, holy fuck, I am so much older than I remember, you know? Where you see the aging happening on your face. And it's not because I'm not saying like everyone gets older. It's because of the stress I was putting on myself. And that would be fine if there was a good reason for it. If I could look at myself and be like, "Man, I've suffered for this, but the art I made was great." I could look at myself and the mirror and be happy about it. But at that point, I look at myself and I was not happy because I had nothing to show for that wear on my body. It was just me trying to hold on to what was already there. And I think that's a trap that a lot of, not just like YouTubers, but a lot of people who pursue anything for themselves get into is they find the one thing and then they hold on so tight, it crushes it in their grip and they lose any passion for it. Or they'll just let go because they're like, I'm tired of holding on to this. - When you say that, do you mean like a specific like niche or something like on YouTube specifically? 'Cause I feel like I've seen that before where it's like, somebody finds a thing that works and then that kind of stops working. And then, I mean, that's how a lot of burnout happens is when the thing that you used to do doesn't work as less anymore, but you're putting the same amount of effort in. And it just wears you down. - Yeah, I see it with like a lot of people that specialize in not calling anyone out in five nights at Freddy's, but it was a trap that I could have fallen into. 'Cause I was known as the five nights at Freddy's. If I had to only done that, that was definitely a path. And I did a lot of it, don't give me wrong. I definitely did, but it's like I didn't want to be known as like the guy I really didn't, it just kind of worked out that way. There's so many other people that know so much more about the universe of five nights at Freddy's than I ever could. Because they're passionate about it. And so I encourage people just to try new things, just 'cause you never know where. 'Cause you'll learn one lesson, do something that applies to something else every time. - Yeah, yeah. - It's kind of funny that that's kind of the conversation we had when it came to ending chuckle sandwich. This is the second to last episode. And I think a lot of what was on our minds is it's kind of meaningful to be able to, in our position, close the book on something and call it like, okay, that's it. And maybe try something else. - Yeah. That was really what it saw us was all about. - You know, with Ethan and I, it was like we were trying to send a message to people that it's okay for things to end. - It sucks, what everything does, it's better to have an ending than to watch something fade away, you know. - Yes, that's exactly what we were saying. - I'm a big fan of ending. Because an ending is only, you're still around. That's why with things like Matt Pat Reptiring, I, they didn't know the full video I sent to him. - Oh yeah, YouTube is making a video. They didn't know it. In it, I was just like, he's not dead. (laughing) He's not going. Like, he always want to make these things. Yeah, so it's never really, the ending is more for people to have closure on that chapter of what they were doing. And then you can move on. Like, you got to finish something. And that's why I have so much trouble with being like, I can't switch tasks because like, I have to finish this before I can do anything else. And that's why this movie is like, it's not that I want to retire from YouTube and do this. This is like, this idea deserves every ounce of my effort. And I don't know how much it's going to take. So it's a discovery for myself at the same time. - Oh, I hate giving estimations on how long something is going to take. Like, even with my manager with like an ad or something, it's like, so you think that video, how long is that video going to take you? I'm like, I've been doing this for, like professionally, I suppose, for like, since like 2019, I still don't know how long a video is going to take me to make. - Yeah, next week. - Yeah, I'm just like, I mean, if I have a date, I have to make, I'll kill myself to finish it. But other than that, that's the only, that's the only assurances that I know if I have a hard date that is, that can't be moved in any capacity, and it's locked in, I will get it done. - Mm-hmm. That's kind of what's good. - But it will be bad on the body. - And keeping on working is just like setting those dates for myself. Yeah. Damn. - Dude, I feel like this is gonna be, you're gonna be, you're gonna be, you're gonna be still on this. You're gonna be, you're gonna blossom. - Whoa. - You're gonna blossom. - Hold on. - You're going to space, dude. - This is the best moment of your life, man. - They see if this is a moment. - I'm imagining everything. - Markiplier changed your life. - Just now. - You're welcome, man. - Yeah, thank you. - I can't wait to see you win all those awards soon. - Yeah, all those streamies, and think bigger. - Think bigger. - No. - Smaller. (laughing) - The president. - The president. - The vice president. - Like, like, like, like, like, - Congressman. - Congressman. - Congressman. - The governor of New York. - He got my grandma, you know. - Oh. - Director of the interior. - The secretary of the interior. - I don't know the interior is. - The country. - The country. - The crops. - The crops. - Yeah, Andrew Cuomo had a thing where. - Don't. - Where he sent COVID patients to nursing homes because the hospitals were full. And didn't let anyone leave him, like, grandma was there. - That's fun though. - You don't even bring a picture of Andrew Cuomo. We know Andrew Cuomo. - Don't even get me started by his brother. - Sorry. Let's just go to read. - Be here, the NAC model. (laughing) - That's not the NAC model. - Well, that's not it. - Yeah. - No, that looks like my love. - That's the nacho. - That's the nacho motion rig. - Mm-hmm. (sighs) - Wow. - So when, whenever this, you guys, we won't talk about release at all in any capacity. When, but when it is done, the movie and all that, is that more of a, yes, I did a movie. Now onto the next new sort of exciting thing. Or in this process, have you, are you like, I'm hungry, and I'm gonna keep making them, and I'm never gonna stop. - Oh, yeah. - Well, you gotta be up the taste for blood. - I mean, whenever I'm making a project, it always takes longer than I think, and therefore I have the idea of the next thing I want to do before I'm done. - Mm-hmm. - Oh, that's Nick. That's the guy who is our operator. The middle of the middle bottom picture, that's Nick. - Oh, cool. - I think, yeah, that's Nick. - There he is. - There he is. - We call him Nick Mo. - Nick Mo. - Yeah, he's been, he was such a cool dude. He was so excited because usually it's a helicopter going around, and it's not like a submarine and an ocean of blood. And so he got to, he's just the things he never, he actually got to, his quote, unleash the Nack Mo on this one. So it's like, that's awesome. - So he's like, his whole thing is Nack Mo. - Yeah, so I believe that he is like their top operator for it, so he knows it inside and out. And I believe he's part of like the design team. He just, you know, that's his thing. Man, he's just like a fun dude, that's great. So he, he was very excited anytime I asked him, can it go more? And he's like, oh yeah, let me fire up the second generator. - That's awesome. - Yeah. - So, very cool. - How do we find a guy like that? - Like a guy that is hyper specialized in the specific, I mean, there's a lot of them in the film industry for sure. - His salary is so, but worth it, valuable, but it's just like, get a men tree level. - Yeah. it's funny, I feel like there's a lot of those types of things in the film world. Like there's like, I feel like, for instance, with lenses, I imagine, I think that there's like certain only certain companies that know how to rehouse a certain type of lens or like, there's all these little tiny, I feel like a lot of times a film industry at a certain level is like, oh, you want this, you have to travel to this ancient land to find the only person left who knows how to do this thing. Yes. 100%. Yeah. And that's one of the lenses for the manulta recourse. One of the rarest ones is the 135 millimeter F2. It's amazing lens. It's incredible, extremely rare. How big is it? It's, I mean, it's, you know, about yay big probably weighs like three pounds, something like that, made two, two and a half. But it's extremely hard to find. You go on eBay, there's like, not popping up. So I actually had a fan in Germany that when they had it, there was a local shop not listed online that had it. Now, it's a, those are, those are different ones. You have to look at the manulta record. Am I N-O-L-O-A? Am I N-O-L-T-A space? R-O-K-K-O-R. R-O-K-K-O-R. Yeah. So this lens is extremely rare, amazing. In Germany, this guy found one that was six hours away. He crashed his car on the way to get it. Still got it. Markiplier needs this lens. Pretty much. Yeah, he, I paid for his car, Paris, which made this lens way more expensive than it already was. And it was very expensive. But I was happy because he, you know, obviously, I'm going to pay for it. He was doing it for me. Yeah, it's like, that was, that was how hard it was to get one. Wow. Yeah. And so you take this, and then you take it to the people that can re-house it, and they have to have a schematic for it, or else they have to, you have to pay for them to design. They have to hold re-rescriptions. Yeah, scroll. Yeah. But yeah, it's, it's a, it's a wild world. There's a whole slew of lenses out there, but I think I found the ones that I like the most. Right. I'll probably just stick with these for as long as you can. That would be kind of like, that becomes your paintbrush in a way. Exactly. Like these lenses. I'm sure that through this experience, and this always happens, I feel like on sets, it's like there are crew members that you're like, you get, I'm going to want you for the rest of my life. Absolutely. One of the deepies that I've worked on on a lot of the music videos Shane, like he's just, he's just such a cool chill dude. And he does such a great job, and I'm like, I want to work with you whenever I can. And this AD that I had, he's like, I feel like when I went, it was in film school, a lot of times the ADs were like, really high-strung people that were like, okay, so we got to move on to the next thing, and if we don't, then everything's going to fail, and we're going to, but like this guy, Connor, he was like, he's just so chill, like I'll go to him, and I'd be like, we're doing good. We have enough time, and we, and he's be like, you're fine, dude, it's like whatever, like he was the calm one, and like he kept, he, like, levelled me out. So it's just, it's, I, yeah, man, it's been a while, so I'm been on a set too. You get me all, you give me the itch. Go for it. You have a step for you. Yeah, I'm not a step for your real stuff. This is a set. This is a set. You're right. Oh, man. And let me tell you about the stress of trying to get us, having it a COI last second for this. We're talking 12 hour turn, let no, nine hour turn around, you know, COI, I don't know if that is it. It's a certificate of insurance like the rental house is ready to let you get anything. Oh, yeah. I thought it was like the architectural of the guy that takes your script and goes like, this is how we're actually going to make it. Oh, yeah. Okay. These are the days we're going to do this. This, this, this, this, he works with the producers to figure all that out. This point will be out. He's got a Christmas album coming out. Oh, shit. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. It's like, wouldn't it be funny if I, did that. And so I did it. Nice. And that's been my project for the year. That's good. And I've been reacting on the side to pay for a side hustle. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's great. Yeah. Yeah. Happy with it? Yeah. It's expensive though. It seems like you're not going to make much money. It's like, that's going to be worth it all. I haven't made money on any of my projects. Really? I've lost so much money on them. Yeah. But I don't even think of it. It's not losing money on them. It's, you, it's, you're just, you get the thing that's changed. That's what it costs. Yeah. That's what it costs to make that thing. It's like, it's, I want the thing, no matter what. It's like, I want that. So like the money. Yeah. It's something you have to think about. But it's like, I don't, I have enough. I've talked about this before on. Warren, I don't live expensively anyway. So it's like, yeah, if I'm going to, if this costs like a million dollars, then that's what it costs. And in return, my experience is like, that's just the cost of what that is. I owe it to them to make things like that. You know, and I owe it to myself to see how far I can really it's like, yeah, it's because you wanted to make it in my mind. Dude, I'm going to be stewing. You're going to be stewing. I'm going to be, I'm going to be cooking a little bit. What's your favorite thing to cook? My mom makes this chicken and dumpling recipe. That's just like every time I, it's so much garlic. So it's just pure chicken and garlic. But you boil it chicken for a very long time as long as you can. Korean recipe. They have vibes. They have vibes. Every Korean cooks on vibes alone. It's, and that's just how it is. Great food is a result of it. Sometimes questionable. But you know, that's the, that's kind of thing about Korean cooking. So, but she makes this like her take on what was my dad's chicken and dumpling recipe, which was his grandmother's recipe. Her name was Mama Doom. Mama Doom. It's, it's, it's a little scary. It is. Yeah. Absolutely. Terrific. No, I mean, it would be cool. My last name was Doom. That'd be awesome. Mark Doom. But unfortunately it's a plier. Yeah. Eplier. Eplier. Yeah. Surprisingly French. Yeah. So that's my favorite chicken and dumpling recipe. Have you ever cooked like bacon? Markiplier would you rather have unlimited bacon? Yeah. But no more video games. Or and stay with me. Games. Unlimited games. And no, no games. Wait. Unlimited games, but no games. I don't know. I feel like that was pretty cut in my eye. I don't think I stutter. You would I stutter all over myself all over myself. Again, I kind of know. And if they had one, I'll say it one more time. Mark, would you rather have unlimited bacon? Or games. Unlimited games. But no games. And you are the last person who will ever answer this question on chuckle sandwich. Ever. It ends with you. Man, so take your time. Yeah. But there's no games. Yeah. It's okay. That's all good. Yeah. Well, I mean, if you think of it the difference between infinity and zero is kind of like not that big. But you could have unlimited bacon. Why can't you? I read other things. Okay. But you could have some on the side whenever you was my answer, isn't it? It is your answer. I was just in my head. It's like take the bacon. That was excellent. That was excellent. That was an excellent way to respond to that. That line of questioning. And then another question we ask our guest, Mark, is we have an ever growing. Now, the you will be adding the final condiment to our ever growing list of condiments. We ask every guest what they would put on the chuckle sandwich. Okay. The male. Okay. I'm the two butt pieces of bread. Charlie was the meat. And then there was a whole long list of other. Yeah, we get we go. Yeah. I don't talk about that right now, Mark. We built it. We built it. It was a fucked up sandwich. I bet. Yeah. Yeah. So let's see. Hey, Oli, Onions, grilled Onions, third piece of bread, stick through the middle that holds it together. Corn, beef, Ethan was a pickle. A vertical. A vertical. Yeah, I think that. Yes. Well, I don't think he's I think in spears. I think it was like they make long slabs. Yeah. Like crinkle, cut long long pieces. Yeah, tartar sauce slice of themself from Ryan. Okay, that's a cop out. Nice job. Freddie. Wait, I'm not an ingredient. Flaky salt. Sprinkle like salt, they will. Rise. That's just stupid. Danny, get with it. Go down. Let's see. We've prayed a tomato that can fly a plane. Why would you kill it and put it on a sandwich? Yeah, that's a fair point. From an issued farmer's bait. There's been so many bacon. No white phosphorus. I mean, to be fair, it was fairly relevant considering the question. Yeah, because a lot of the times I think they heard it. And then they were subconsciously now bacon on their mind. Yeah. That's just someone to see if you easily influenced and Jarvis Johnson is very easily influenced. Pickle on a stick. Pickle on a stick. Let's go with, and this might be a cop out if I just called a bunch of people out the pot coming out. Let's put it in a panini press. Whoa. The whole thing. No, that's great. That was a fantastic choice. Yeah. Yeah. So, and that would change the entire experience because the textually and then the heat elements would melt it all together. Wow. So you're taking the whole sandwich. We're putting it there. And then we've got the chuckle sandwich. Yeah. Wow. Ship on the sandwich. There is. I haven't seen that one. Well, that's, this is a list. Oh, yeah, yeah. This is from, I don't even know how long ago, how old this one is, but the Exxon Valdez oil spill. The oil spill. Oh, that's just illogical. I don't know how you get that on a sandwich. And specifically that ship, it was probably decommissioned. That occurred in 1989. So God, you're so right. Wow. So I think he settled on just putting some oil on it. Is what? No, no, no, he did. Oh, we put the whole ship. We convinced him to put the ship on. We're going to need a big panini press, Mark. But we'll do it for you. Don't put the ship on. You're asking us to remove someone else's ingredient? No one's ever asked to do this before. Spits on everyone else's contributions to put a ship on there. It's illogical. That weighs thousands of tons. It's impractical. It's impossible. Okay. Okay. We'll remove that one. Yeah. We'll take that one off. Yeah. We'll get that one. We'll get that one. There's your legacy. Well, I mean, as our final guest ever on chuckle sandwich, thank you, Mark, Pire, so much for coming on. Thank you. I think we can post this one. I think I think that this one might go online and to think the other ones, I was even more profan. He told us who God is that kind of mess with you guys. Hold back from that. That wasn't a good idea. Well, I don't know. See you in the next episode, which is the final one, Chucklers. But I don't know what shock you'll eat you later. We don't usually say that. We just kind of do it. I was about to say, like, I've never watched an episode, but I don't think that's how it goes. [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO]