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The Man Who Exposed Kimberly Guilfoyle Reacts To Her Resignation (w/ Eric Deters)

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The Man Who Exposed Kimberly Guilfoyle Reacts To Her Resignation (w/ Eric Deters)

Eric Dieters, in a recent interview with Sam Stein, argues that Ambassador Kimberly Guilfoyle resigned due to public exposure of text messages revealing her request for $100,000 to cover her credit card debt. He claims she attempted to cover up the messages and falsely claimed they were forged, prompting his plan to sue her for defamation and take her deposition personally. Dieters emphasizes that her resignation does not end investigations, as multiple committees and the State Department’s OIG will continue scrutinizing her conduct. He alleges a signed breakdown agreement between Guilfoyle and Donald Trump Jr. that includes non-disclosure provisions, potentially shielding Trump from accountability. Dieters criticizes the Trump administration’s inaction—such as failing to investigate Dr. Ronnie Durrani’s medical fraud—arguing that political power is often maintained through conditional cooperation. He contrasts the Trump world’s obsession with money and wealth with his own values of service and community, noting that even wealthy acquaintances have refused to support his cause. Dieters sees the central role of money in politics as degrading and exploitative, calling it the defining trait of the wealthy elite. Ultimately, he asserts that integrity and public service, not financial gain, should drive political action, positioning himself as a moral counterpoint to the administration’s culture of wealth and power.

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All right. Hey, everybody. It's me, Sam Stein, managing editor of The Bork, and I'm joined once again by Eric Dieters. You might remember him from our previous conversation where he had a great green screen behind him. He did not choose to do the same backdrop, which I'm disappointed, I will admit. But I'm glad that you joined me nonetheless, Eric. We are talking literally minutes after Ambassador Kimberly Guilfoyle announced that she is resigning from her post. You might remember Eric and I talked about what precipitated this, which was text messages and signal messages that Eric shared, showing that she was more or less hitting you up for money to support her lavish lifestyle. So, Eric, I guess I should start with your reactions to her resignation. My first response when asked that today is going to be it's a great day for American diplomacy. But I want to let you know that. You know, I'm glad I'm glad she's gone. Kimberly Guilfoyle is a wicked, evil, manipulative grifter. And, you know, the reports that were coming out of Greece weren't good. But I'll take full credit for the resignation because I think she would have survived everything in Greece. They could have told her to cut it out. It was over there in Greece and she would have survived that. What she could not survive. What she could not survive was the black and white text messages, the embarrassment, the humiliation of her asking me for $100,000 to pay off her Amex. And at the same time, wanting to keep it a secret and cover it up. And just to let you know, too, not to monopolize conversation here at the outset, but she I'm going to sue her for defamation this week. I have to because she's concocted this thing that, oh, this was for money that I owed. I owed her for prior work. And that's not true. And she knows it. She started out telling the Wall Street Journal that the messages were fake. That didn't fly. Then she said I was a known blackmailer, whatever the hell that freaking means. So I'm going to be really aggressive against her. And I'm suing her for defamation right here in good old Kentucky near Cincinnati, which means I will get to take her deposition. And it'll be fun. I was going to ask you if you had filed. Because we had talked last time you said you're going to. So you haven't actually filed it yet, but you do still plan on doing so. Yeah, I was. I wasn't kind of in a hurry. I wasn't in a hurry to do it, but I'm going to I'm going to hurry it up now. Today's Tuesday. It'll be filed by Friday. Now, you said I'm going to take her deposition. You don't mean you literally personally. You're going to have a lawyer do it. Oh, absolutely not me. See, as a retired lawyer, as a retired. I knew you were a lawyer. I was wondering if you're going to take. As a retired lawyer, you can represent yourself, per se. And I always represent myself in all my legal matters quite well, I might say. OK. If I can represent myself, there's nobody better than I could get. So you are going to depose her yourself? Absolutely. I'm looking forward to that day. You have to understand something about a lawsuit. They're very dangerous because a lawsuit allows you to issue subpoenas. A lawsuit allows you to request documents. A lawsuit. Allows you to take depositions under oath, which means I can depose everyone on her staff. I can subpoena documents. It's by the way, her problem of this is important for your audience to know her resignation is not making her problems go away. The Raskin's committee, the Oversight Committee, the Foreign Relations Committee have both contacted me. I've sent them all the documents. They're not going to let this go. The OIG. The Office of Inspector General from the State Department, they're still going to conduct their investigation. Her resigning does not make any of this problem, her legal problems go away. So why do you think she resigned? Because she was going to be fired if she didn't. And I think Trump gave her that little bit of grace. I don't know if you saw it, but Trump was leaving the White House just now. I did see it. And they said, she's like a member of your family. He snapped. She was not a member of my family. I mean, it was like, whoa, Kimberly has fallen. She's fallen way down. The quote is, she wasn't a member of my family. She, I guess, dated my son a long time ago. Right. It wasn't that long ago. I'm going to break some news for you. I know you're counting on me for this. Here is something that's big. I was thinking that the only thing that would save her is that. She would be saved because of stuff she knows. But here is what I've decided. That's already been taken care of. I will bet you that when Donald Trump Jr. and her broke up, when they broke up, I'll guarantee you there was a signed document. And I'll bet you that signed document said, you're going to go your way. I'm going my way. Here's what we're going to do with the House. Here's what we're going to do with. With everything. There is no way in hell Don Jr. did not get an agreement with Kimberly Guilfoyle that says non-disclosure, no talking about anything, including the Trump administration. So I bet you the Donald Trump Jr. breakup agreement is really making this easier for Trump to do. You usually don't have breakup agreements if you're getting married, I guess you would have a divorce settlement, but yeah, we'll see. No, there's, there's no doubt, there's no doubt they got something in writing. Okay, okay, so when she resigned, she put out a statement. She says the following, I also want to address the recent allegations against me. These allegations are false and I intend to vigorously defend my name, my reputation and my integrity. I've dedicated my professional life to fighting for justice, standing up for what is right and defending the values that make America exceptional. I will not allow false accusations to define my decades of public service. I would just know you have. It's literal text messages and signal messages. So I'm not sure what she's saying is false. Do you have an idea of what she's going to push back on you for? No, she's just, she's just posturing. Here's another thing I'm breaking on your show. Well, you, the last thing you broke, you were speculating that they had a NDA. So it wasn't total breaking news. Let's get a little sharper here. Here's a rhetorical question. Okay. If she's so innocent and she wants to. Defend these allegations vigorously, then, uh, is she going to sue me? And why isn't she given public interviews? Why isn't she standing before a bank of cameras to defend these allegations falsely? I'm going on every freaking news agency that wants to talk to me now, of course, we all know the reason why. And I got to say at this brief moment, 580 victims of Dr. Durrani for unnecessary spine surgeries. I asked her for her help. To bring attention to it and medical protective, his insurance company, I wonder on he extradited, I want an investigation of how he fled the country and she couldn't even do that for me. Uh, I asked you last time, uh, this question, I'm going to ask it again, because it's been several days. Has anyone from that orbit reached out to you since you first emerged as someone who was willing to share what you knew about Guffman by board? But I mean, her, her office, the Trump administration. Trump world, anyone? No, no, I do want to tell you that I have communicated by email, no response, you know, they probably wish they responded to my email, uh, two Thursdays ago, right? I sent him an email yesterday and I said to them that I do plan on, uh, suing Kimberly Guilfoyle for defamation. But I also said that if it helps them, if it helps them with the Kimberly Guilfoyle situation, as long as they extradite Dr. Ronnie, and as long as they, um, uh, start the investigation against medical protective, I'm fine. So who would you send that to Susie? Wiles is chief of staff and Don jr. Isn't that kind of like extortion? No, it's cooperation and trying to help them with their Kimberly Guilfoyle problem. You're saying if you help me with my problem, I will not blow up this Kimberly Guilfoyle situation anymore. No, here's, here's what extortion is. You. You better do boom or I'm going to do X. That's what you're saying though. No, you know what I mean? With these patients or are going to blow up Kimberly Guilfoyle situation, two things. It's political. It's political. That, that stuff goes down all day. Politicians do it all the time. They say, Hey, if you don't support me, I'm going to support so-and-so that's not extortion. That's political. Hey, by the way, I want to tell you right now, do you really think they want to charge me with extortion? I think I get a little press out of that. I got to say, I got to ask one other thing. Sure. I've been, I've been, this has been killing me. I'm sitting here talking to you again and I'm thinking to myself, how many people have said that you remind them of Pauly Shore? Me, Pauly Shore? You have the, you had the same demeanor, the way you talk, you sound like Pauly Shore. I like Pauly Shore. That's not an insult. I'm not, I like Pauly Shore too, but that definitely is an insult. No one wants to be compared to Pauly Shore. Um, you said. You said you've been, uh, Jamie Raskin and, and, uh, and Robert Garcia's. committees they've reached out to what have they what are they asked for what have you given them they've asked for the documents and i sent them and they've asked for um some interviews and some phone calls i'm talking to one of them i don't know which one one of them wants to look at the documents more one of them's calling me at 3 30 today this is lavar errington from two pros and a cup of joe let me tell you about zero that's xero zero is a financial management platform that loves giving small business owners the clarity to have the confidence in their numbers it puts accounting payments payroll and analytics all in one place so you always have one clear picture of your business with visual dashboards zero makes it easy to understand your cash flow you know exactly what's coming in and what's going out so you can make smarter decisions that can help grow your business zero's ai can even offer insights to help you make your best move it's powerful enough for an accountant and simple enough for you zero is the all-in-one to get business done learn more at zero.com oh wow and you think and so why do you think that they're going to stay on this even though she's resigned are you kidding me i mean i would i would stay on it i'm just sort of curious there's a lot of stuff they're going to stay on it because it is a it is bad publicity uh for kimberly guilfoyle and therefore the trump administration as it relates to her grifting by the way i want to i want to say this again i have no evidence that don jr and eric trump ever have done anything like kimberly guilfoyle did for me grifting wise and i say this kind of facetiousness and i say this kind of facetiousness and i say this kind of facetiousness but with with humor the bidens were shadow old style criminals the trumps they just they're just making their money hand over fist out in the open i mean let's face it okay i don't like trump's personal um style as it relates to what he do things i mean have the president united states hawking trump watches bothers the hell out of me he brings up one to name the oceans and after him i mean trump's ego i'll quote tombstone i love tombstone is my favorite movie of all time um i have a painting of doc holiday over my office at home this guy is just like johnny the doc the doc holly the character in tombstone or doc holiday like just right you're gonna love this you're gonna love this the actual historical doc holidays face okay painted on val kilmore's outfit you have that hanging over your bed yeah i know it's hanging over my office i'm gonna love this i'm gonna love this i'm gonna love this i'm gonna love this your office okay office at home my office desk i could have picked any historical figure and i picked doc holiday that tells you all you need to know about me now let me tell you something do you like that line i was like i'll be a huckleberry i'm gonna be your hook i was kim huckle i was kim huckleberries but doc holiday the movie says johnny ringo is a hole right in the center that he could never fill with hate okay yeah donald trump has a hole that he can't fill with adoration i mean it's non-stop donald trump donald trump donald trump donald trump and it gets old like the arch what the hell do we need a freaking arch for i mean it's just disgusting disgusting um last question for you um i just am sort of fascinated by the role that money plays in this world like they it seems to be ever ever present a desire to make more and more and more and and it's never enough and and you've walked with these people you've talked to them yeah can you speak to it like that seems i guess the old let me put it this way a lot of people have asked based off our first interview is why she even was in that position considering all the money that she had potentially made from other sources of incomes and you explained she had a big spending habit but money seems to be just the central issue for this community for this this uh these people let me let me share something with you i i was born the son i'm one of 11 children of a my father was an attorney and uh he was a lawyer and he was a lawyer and he was a man of means but we grew up on a farm and we we'd establish you know farm values but i have been around people with money my entire life and there are some exceptions to this rule but i can tell you being around money my whole life people with money most of them only want to make more money it is money is how they define people it's why you have special subdivisions where the rich people live it's why you have country clubs and exclusive country clubs you got mar-a-lago you got trump world president trump defines everything based upon money and it's disgusting and if that all they value is money but that's the way the rich are i happen to not be that way um i don't have more i don't have mar-a-lago kind of money but i'm not i am a man of means i mean i i live in i live in one of the nicest homes in the greater cincinnati area um but i want you to know that that's not what drives me what drives me is helping people and it's the cause and i canceled that freedom fest because my 100 wealthiest friends who who i do favors for all day long i said hey buy a thousand dollar ticket for me help me pay for this event and only three of them did the three people i didn't even freaking know and that's why i canceled it and i threw them under the bus and you're going to crack up some of them are trying to text me and communicate to me and i'm blowing them off never again so people don't realize that it wasn't anti-trump that was rich people holding on to a thousand dollars in this durani cause i'm raising money every day every day i gotta go out raise money because i've i spent all my money on the cause a couple million a year and you would not believe my wealthiest friends my wealthiest friends are the ones that always say no to money yeah i it's sad it's sad all right eric theaters thanks again buddy appreciate it will you have me back again even though i thought you reminded me of polly shore i'll have to think about that one that was that was a harsh insult but i'll i'll i'll ruminate on it thanks for having me on i like you guys appreciate it

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Eric Dieters claims Ambassador Kimberly Guilfoyle resigned due to public humiliation from text messages showing her asking for $100,000 to cover her credit card debt, which he says was a cover-up.
  2. Dieters plans to sue Guilfoyle for defamation, arguing she falsely claimed the messages were fake and misrepresented their origin, and he intends to take her deposition personally.
  3. The resignation does not end the investigation; the House committees, OIG, and other oversight bodies have already requested documents and will continue probing her actions.
  4. Dieters alleges a signed non-disclosure agreement between Guilfoyle and Donald Trump Jr. exists from their breakup, potentially shielding Trump from scrutiny.
  5. He criticizes the Trump administration’s lack of action, such as failing to extradite Dr. Ronnie Durrani or investigate his medical insurance fraud.
  6. Dieters highlights that political figures often use conditional cooperation—offering support in exchange for silence—as a tactic, which he frames as political, not extortion.
  7. He contrasts the Trump administration’s open-money culture with his own values, emphasizing that personal wealth and financial gain are central to elite political behavior.
  8. Dieters stresses that true values lie in service and helping others, contrasting his actions with elite figures who prioritize financial gain over integrity.

Summary:

Eric Dieters, in a recent interview with Sam Stein, argues that Ambassador Kimberly Guilfoyle resigned due to public exposure of text messages revealing her request for $100,000 to cover her credit card debt. He claims she attempted to cover up the messages and falsely claimed they were forged, prompting his plan to sue her for defamation and take her deposition personally. Dieters emphasizes that her resignation does not end investigations, as multiple committees and the State Department’s OIG will continue scrutinizing her conduct.

He alleges a signed breakdown agreement between Guilfoyle and Donald Trump Jr. that includes non-disclosure provisions, potentially shielding Trump from accountability. Dieters criticizes the Trump administration’s inaction—such as failing to investigate Dr.

Ronnie Durrani’s medical fraud—arguing that political power is often maintained through conditional cooperation. He contrasts the Trump world’s obsession with money and wealth with his own values of service and community, noting that even wealthy acquaintances have refused to support his cause. Dieters sees the central role of money in politics as degrading and exploitative, calling it the defining trait of the wealthy elite.

Ultimately, he asserts that integrity and public service, not financial gain, should drive political action, positioning himself as a moral counterpoint to the administration’s culture of wealth and power.

FAQs

She resigned because she was likely about to be fired over allegations of grifting, including asking for $100,000 to cover her Amex card debt. Eric Dieters believes Trump offered her a final grace, possibly due to political considerations.

Eric Dieters claims there is a signed agreement from when they broke up, including a non-disclosure clause about the Trump administration. He says this agreement may have helped facilitate her resignation.

Yes, Eric plans to sue her for defamation, arguing that her claims about the text messages being fake or that he was a blackmailer are false and damaging to his reputation.

He intends to file a defamation lawsuit in Kentucky and take her deposition under oath, allowing him to subpoena documents and question staff members.

No, her resignation does not end the investigation. Committees like the Raskin’s Oversight Committee and the State Department’s OIG are still reviewing documents and will continue probing the allegations.

Eric argues she hasn’t given public interviews because she’s avoiding accountability, and he suspects she’s using silence to protect her reputation rather than defend her actions.

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