The episode blends personal storytelling with humor, focusing on the journey of a musician through early struggles, self-doubt, and eventual success. The host shares candid memories of growing up in a quiet, overlooked environment, where being shy and unassuming shaped their early life and approach to relationships. Central to the narrative is the breakthrough of the song "Truth Hurts," which achieved mainstream success after years of grassroots touring and limited recognition. The conversation explores themes of authenticity, personal growth, and emotional resilience, including reflections on first kisses, late-life romance, and the fear of judgment. Humorous anecdotes about childhood heroes, pranks, and musical influences—like Alan Iverson and Prince—add depth and levity. The episode also touches on mental health, with a sponsorship from BetterHelp promoting emotional well-being, and includes playful discussions about food, social dynamics, and humor. Through these personal and lighthearted moments, the host presents a narrative of perseverance, self-acceptance, and the joy found in real, unscripted human experiences. The tone remains warm, relatable, and full of vulnerability, offering listeners insight into both artistic triumph and the messy, beautiful reality of everyday life.
-Now. -Yes, Benny?
-I know you're wondering.
-Why you have your grip on that fridge like that?
-No, I am wondering that.
-Why I'm being polite. -Are you closing?
-Maybe I am doing a slight close.
But I am doing something else.
-What?
-What are you doing? Just do it then.
Don't be labor or anything you're doing.
-You guys ever wonder why this episode is sponsored by Whitecloth?
-Well, let me tell you, you're laying down.
-Toss me one.
-What flavor?
-Zermango in there.
-Mango coming right up.
-Please drink responsibly.
-Wait, what about it?
-That sound, summer day, beach.
-Oh!
-That was a good one.
-Now, typically, I would completely guzzle this now.
But unfortunately, with our partners,
we're not allowed to on air and please drink responsibly.
-I already said it, so you don't have to say it.
I said the thing.
-Who's that? It's a rhythmic guest.
-I'll keep these cold for us.
-Are we ready?
-Yeah. -You've done all your branding work.
-Great.
-And welcome to the house.
-Hey!
-Love having you. Say hey.
-Hey!
-I'm hungry today.
-I'm hungry.
-Wait, Liz, are you a virgin?
And I remember being like. [ Laughter ]
-Bob Dylan, is that you?
-He's like Ron Burgundy.
-You want a freestyle?
-You're the only person I've ever seen
that is putting out music where it's from a perspective
that no one else could ever even dabble in that perspective.
-Wow!
-Crazy.
-Can we get you anything to drink?
-Well, I want it kombucha.
-Except kombucha.
-You can have some of ours.
We can pour it in a glass.
-Oh, my God.
-I know. I know.
-It's the same way.
-But are you a splitter if it's not from the same glass?
-No, but this has been touched by. -It's the same way.
-I don't even do it with my parents.
If my parents drink a bottle, I don't want to drink.
-No, I don't use any time I ever go
to a public restroom ever in the history of my life.
This is wasteful.
-The first four squares of the toilet paper.
-Oh, yeah, you're canceled.
You can't do it.
-Is that wasteful?
-No, it's not.
-The shit has gone into the air.
-Everything's gone in there.
-Shitty fingers have touched that first square.
-Yes.
-You're all far as to be so loud when you pee because it's closed cheek.
-Oh, my gosh, you're pushing.
-It's closed cheek.
At least we sit down and spread the cheek.
-Yeah. -And then once you have the hole,
it gets a little open.
-No. It's the trick for the ladies.
-Do you?
-Oh, yeah, you never farted.
-Well, I used to fart all the time.
Maybe this isn't working for me.
So with him for the first two years, I held them in.
-How do you all feel about that, though?
-Well, they reigned out.
-I love when she started farting.
-Oh, really? -Yeah, I think it's funny.
She's a funny farter.
So it adds value to me.
I do just like her.
And I do never smell.
If they stunk every time,
I would just be annoyed
the way I would be if a guy farted in the stunk every time.
-You know I was born in Michigan.
I'm from Michigan. You were born in Michigan.
-People say Michigan, from like Ann Arbor, Lansing.
-I grew up in Grand Rapids.
-She looks very different at you when you said Grand Rapids.
-I did. It's very hard to --
-She got like this.
-It was a little judgey.
-I know why.
-It's like a spec in Michigan.
Michigan is a whole different thing.
Detroit is a way different thing than Michigan.
-I grew up -- I was born in Detroit.
-Yeah.
-I lived there until I was nine.
My whole family is there.
I moved down to Houston when I was nine.
So I'm half Detroit, half Houston.
Which people don't ever --
-It's a nice mix.
-It's a nice mix.
-It is. It's a great mix.
-I'm a par-wall guy.
-I'm a par-wall guy.
-No shade. And that's actually --
No one's ever said it like that before.
That is fire.
Don't want any of the M&M hives to come after me.
When eight-mile came out, I had a black hoodie.
-Of course.
-I memorized.
-I'm so important to childhood.
-That's like my parents' hair.
-I think par-wall might have the coolest --
I think he's up there with like Snoop Dogg.
-50 cents.
-50 cents.
-It's your favorite voice.
-He has a great voice, but it's not like a character.
-It's also like the chief.
-It's cooler like --
-It's like a gangster.
-I love listening to par-wall talk and interviews.
-Oh, yeah.
-He's like sounds so cool.
-That's just like a Houston --
-I know. But --
-Norsi, Accent, or Southside Accent.
-I think he's really handsome, too.
-He's got the height of Swisher House, and all of the --
-Oh, my jaw.
-My jaw.
-My jaw.
-Like, at the mall.
Yeah, back in the day, when I was there,
you could call 2-813-0804 and he would answer.
We used to prank call him all the time.
-Wow.
-And it has Mama started answering.
And it's Salange bought it.
-Really?
-Bought the phone number?
-I think she bought the phone number when she did that album.
-That's a cool idea, actually.
-What do you want to order something?
-I don't know.
-We'll cross that bridge when we get there.
-You could order something right here.
-I'm just going to go and read out some things that we have.
-Okay.
-Just so you hear what we have here.
-She likes coming to mine.
-Oh, that's Hashiba.
-Hashiba.
-Hashiba.
-Hashiba.
-I want to know just like the quick how it all happened.
-Like the five-minute or less version.
-Yeah.
-Okay, that's enough.
-It's like the same story.
-It's the same story.
-I'm honestly pre-tick-talked.
The story is kind of the same for everybody.
We just put out music,
toured for 10 years,
and then one day there was a critical mass.
But my critical mass was,
because truth hurts was my first number one.
Also, the longest female rap number one of all time.
-Wow.
-I feel in that bitch.
-Nobody just met my spat.
-Wow.
-But that happened.
I wrote the song in like 2017.
I put it out,
and then it didn't really do nothing.
They put that song in a movie or Netflix.
-A movie.
-Something great.
Someone great.
-Oh, wait, I know exactly what I meant.
-Wait till they got a big rap scene.
-Yeah, and that was in 2019.
I was working on special because I love you.
Oh my god, I can't remember anything about my life.
But he was, I was working on 'cause I love you.
Truth hurts wasn't on that album.
And my label called and was like,
"Hey, something's happening with Truth hurts."
And I was like, okay, whatever.
'Cause nothing had ever happened with my music
before I wasn't like charting or anything like that.
- But you had this big touring fan base.
- Yeah, because I--
- You should have like a huge fan base.
- I was grinding for like 10 years.
- She was like 5,000 people anywhere.
And like, but nobody--
- Or more, like I was, I grossed like a million dollars
on my own from touring.
- But you still thought like your music wasn't like--
- Yes.
- Yeah, because it wasn't like mainstream,
it wasn't on the radio, it wasn't on the charts,
but I had like a dedicated fan base.
Like I opened for like churches and high--
- Oh, wow. - And my morning jacket--
- Oh, wow.
- I was opening for the, yeah, yeah, yes.
Like, I was outside just like gaining a fan base,
like a touring fan base, who fucked with my music,
but it wasn't main stream.
- Yeah.
- Then truth hurts started going up the charts,
and I was like, okay, but you know, like,
in the first time, you don't really like expect nothing.
You're just like, okay, what does that even mean?
And then it was like, it's in the top 10,
and I was like, oh, and then it was number one.
I was like, oh, oh, okay.
Honestly, I cried when it was number eight.
I remember being like, "It's my lucky number."
That's my personal peak.
That was it.
I wept.
And then when it was number one, I was so depressed.
I was, it was like the most depressing time of my life.
Not because it was number one,
but everything around my life was so overwhelming.
Damn.
'Cause when you're on that like road to,
you're not sleeping, they're pulling you left,
especially pre-COVID, like you were doing
seven meat and grease a day while doing all this radio press,
to do all of this interviews and stuff.
And then you had to do sound check.
- How would you do it?
Would you take like Adderall?
- No.
I drank a lot of the Keelum.
I'm not gonna say.
- I was gonna say, like--
- You know, I understand it's so crazy.
So when I was on the road with Ed
and we were making divide, he would be backstage with me.
And he'd be playing the guitar, singing the thing,
and they'd go like this, a guy would knock on the door.
They'd go, "Hey, we just got some stuff for you to sign."
So he would come in, he would sign,
while he was singing the thing with me.
- What's the thing with you recording me?
- He'd be recording a song.
And he'd be signing things while he's doing it.
Then they're like, when one minute came,
they'd bring him a tea, a person would strap him on,
and he would go work on the song,
and he would run out, and like 30 seconds later,
you'd hear him on stage, and then two hours later,
he would come right back, and he would take off his thing,
and be like, okay, so while I was out there,
he was like, I came up with the verse in the chorus,
and I said, I would say, what do you mean?
He said, I've been performing so many years
that it's just autopilot.
I don't even, he said he doesn't even think,
are you like that, too?
- Like one side of your brain is like,
I can think about what I'm going to eat.
- Yeah, it's great. - Yeah.
- Yeah. - So you're performing in front of,
-Can you instill to this day?
-Yeah.
-What is day?
-And you're just like, you're like, day dreaming while you're like.
-Yes, she was writing the song.
-Have you ever forgotten the words to one of your songs?
-Yeah, because I set myself up for failure.
Like, one side of my brain.
and it's like, you're gonna forget this part. You're gonna forget this part. And then I do, and I'm like, fuck, if I didn't tell myself that like 30 seconds before I would have got it. - Absolutely. - But yeah, that's happened. - What's the worst day of your life? The worst day of your life? - Yeah, I wanna know the worst day of your life. - I've had like, I've had like a few, like, I've had a few that are in competition. - Okay, give me the two competition. Then after, I wanna know the best day of your life. But look, first I wanna know the few worst days in competition. - The worst day of my life is probably when my dad died. - I don't know if you guys have. - No, that's our biggest fear. - That's my biggest fear. - Really? - Yeah, it gives me anxiety. - I was homeless at the time. I don't know why I'm laughing. - I had this like really beat up Subaru car and it was like dented. Like, his name was Harvey Dent. And you could literally like, you had to climb into like, drive it and I was like sleeping in that car. I was like parking at like gas stations and sleeping there at night and I was showering at the gym. I was sneaking in the gym to like shower. And so I found out while I was in the shower at the gym, like it was in my locker. Like my phone was in my locker like going off. And I went and got so fucked up on moonshine. And it was just like, it was like the worst. - Yeah. - It was awful. - That's okay. - And I was all the way in Houston and he was in Detroit. - Oh my. - Worst day of my life. - Yeah, that's terrible. - What else could be in competition with that? - And I lost my dog, Puka. She was like 19 years old. - How old? - 19. - 19. - Yeah, she was like my grandma. - You can't even sad at that point. - 19. - Oh no. - No, I know. - No, you know what I'm talking about. - 'Cause I know what you mean though. 'Cause when you hear about someone pass and they're like 102, you're like, oh, they had a great life. - Yeah, yeah. - But it's just like, she was just one of those people. - Oh, nice. - She was just one of those, you call the dog apart. - You can say it for her. - She was one of those people that I just thought would always be there. And I get, I like literally out of nowhere will catch like grief and get like, and start crying when I think about her. - All right. What's the best day? - Best day of my life. - You had sex 42 times in one day. - Oh my God. - What's the best one for? - Grammy wins? - I don't, Grammy, you know what I'm saying? - I would say, uh, maybe, that's a day. - Maybe. - That's a day, Grammy's was cool, man. But-- - I never won one, I don't know. - You never won one? - No. - Never been invited. - Never invited. - He's never invited to the VMAs. - Really? - No VMAs? - He gets mad, he doesn't even get invited. - No, you got invited to one thing. - I don't know. For me, I feel like as a musician, but we're also, you know, everyone's a different person. I would find there's kind of an, as I'm sure you feel, like an endless thing you're chasing as an artist that really could never be filled. But there's a few ways where maybe in my mind logically, a moment of peace can occur. One is when you have the number one song in the world, which you've had, where it's just like, you know, oh, at this thing that I've been trying to do, I reached a point where literally no one in the world was doing it better than me at this given time. Like, no one can ever take that from you. And then I guess the Grammys could, you could argue, it would make you feel that way. Now, I don't really put a lot of stock in awards ceremonies, mostly because I don't even get invited to them. - I feel like when I woke up the morning of the Grammys, the first time I won, I was like, I know, sorry. I was just like, I was so overwhelmed with gratitude, 'cause I was like, I can't even believe I'm here. Like, you think about all the things you've been through and all the like, close calls, you've had in your life, and then you wake up and you're like, I'm going to the Grammys today. I would just like cry at all the morning. And I was like, I'm so grateful. I was like, I'm never, I'm never gonna complain. - You're even one, right? - Before I even won. - Sounds like it could be the best way in your life. - Well, we all did that thing. Like, when I was a kid, I would like, pretend to win awards and shit. Back in the day, somebody laughed in my face when I was like, I'm gonna be a music major. And I was like, I'm gonna go to school for music. I'm gonna study music performance. And they laughed in my face. And said, ha, like Beyonce? And laughed. And I was like, it broke me down so bad. But then one day I was next to Beyonce. And I was like, yeah, like Beyonce. - Yeah, exactly, like Beyonce. (laughing) - You got talents, right? - What? - No, I mean, not, I can, I can. - Not musically. - Oh, yeah. - That's not, I could play, I could play the recorder. Do you know how to play the recorder? - Oh, yeah. - That's like entry level. - No, she can play the flute. - Well, but she had to start with the recorder, right? - Did she level? - You gotta start with the recorder. - Well, I can't play the recorder for her. - No, do it, do it, do it, do it. - Oh, she can. - She's, it's entry level. - Why do you still play the recorder for you? - I wouldn't label this as one of her talents. - What do you-- - The harmonica. - I'll be right back. - Grab a harmonica and the recorder. - I mean, I don't even think she's good at either of those. - What? - Okay, harmonica, I gotta give her her props of that recorder. It's hard to sound good on recorders. - No, she's really good at listening. - I mean, she's like, we're like a musician. - Didn't you heard me playing yesterday? The record, or the harmonica? - I know, that's a good one. - Grab the harmonica and the recorder. - Said, we're like musicians. - Yeah, but she just sold the TV show. - Oh, which one? - Like she just, she like just sold it like recently. - She's like comedy? - Yeah, comedy, that affects. - I don't like Dave, but like for a female. - Oh, did she do Dave? - No. - But she's kind of, she's dating me and highly influential. - I'm scared. - Bob Dylan, is that you? - KFC Box Feast. - Oh my God, what is this? - It's a part of the KFC Box Feast. - Oh my God. - It is for like, show the box so they can know what the feast is. - This is an $11 box. - Take a look at this, you see this chicken. - Show the thickness of the patty. - Look at the thickness of the patty. This is great ancient. - Look at the thickness of the nugget. - I mean, they call this a nugget. This looks like a big nugget. - When I think of a nugget, I think this is like a real nugget. You know, I think if this is a real nugget, compared to other nuggets. - That's a nugget of wisdom. - Time to feast. Prices and participation may vary. Tax, tip and feast, extra. - This is the best thing I've ever tasted. We respect you. - More fun. - You know this episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. And you know what else you know? - What else do I know? - I don't know if you even put two and two together, but ironically, I was born on international women's day. - I would like to say one thing about international women's day. I want to give a shout out to all of my girlfriends, all of my friends. I feel like they all support me. And you know who supports all of us, for therapists. - There are no people on earth without the women that bear them. - Your emotional well-being matters. Find support and feel lighter in therapy. - Sign up and get 10% off at betterhelp.com/fks. That's betterhelp.com/fks. - Oh. - Wow. - Bring down your rhythm. - Can I see how easy it is to do this? - It's kind of easy, because it already sets up the chords for you. It's really individual notes that's difficult. That's why Stevie's a genius. But let's, let's, let's just blow. - Beautiful. - Oh. - Let me try it. - I hate it what I did. - Let me try it. - Let me try it. - It sets up, so it's like, is that what? - It's like auto tune. - So what I was, yes. Okay, now we're talking. That's cool. I love the harmonica. - Wait, do you have a recorder? - Yeah. - I'm seeing if someone has a flute. - Is that anything else that the recorder can do? - If you randomly have a flute here, that's the best. - Can you play good? - Yeah. - Okay, wait. - I have a lipstick though. - Do we have a flute? - Yeah. - Is it a good flute? - Not a fucking heart. - How do you know? - I'm giving heart. - Wait, wait, wait. - Wait, wait, wait. - Okay, okay. - Flip it. - What's a gibbon heart? - It's okay. - Is that a good one? - No. - Well, a gibbon heart. Like a lot of girls play gibbon hearts. This is German. I play Japanese flutes. - What do you have? - I have a Muramatsu. - A Muramatsu? - Oh yeah. - Wait, so do you just already know like what to do? - I guess I'm the only one aware that you're like a classical flutus. - Yeah. - Like flutus? - I thought we flutus. - Do you think you're a flutus? - I knew you were a flutus. - How does it get you to understand that she is a flutus? - Just do something. - Oh my god. It sounds like a movie trailer. - I have no idea if this is how musicians operate. But are you able to, if you know how a song's melody goes, are you able to always be able to play it on the flute in an elementary way or not even remotely? - Like if you named a tune. - The C-L-O-F-U-F-U-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D. (whimsical music) - Whoa. Whoa. - Yeah. - Wait. - Ah, fuck. Oh. There it is. (whimsical music) - Ooh, this is giving me an idea. She was just, you know what, it feels like the perfect score to like a movie. - Oh yeah. Chuck, use your, use your movie trailer for this. - Okay, okay. We'll do a healing trailer first. - Okay. One man. One journey. Deep in the Alps. He found the cure for arthritic psoriasis. Larry David is the inch. - Oh, okay, okay, wait. - Could you act one out if I did it? - Yeah. - Okay, okay, okay. - Make it about one man. - August, 2027. - Joaquin Phoenix is. - Dave Bird is. - Cat man. It feels like Daniel's another one. Okay.
- I like it. - I like it. Okay, okay. Do something like Pornie. - Okay. - Pornie? - Um. Uh. (playful music) Hold on, hold on. - I want to go like Bound Chico. Wow, wow. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. (playful music) One man made a fool. - One man. One cock. Dwayne Johnson is the popcorn man. (laughing) - Do you sure you want me to fuck you? - Popcorn man. (laughing) - Who are you? - How's it going? - I'm the guy that fucks popcorn man. - Are you Dave Bird or are you Dwayne Johnson? - I'm Dave Bird playing like Evan, the guy who fucks popcorn man. - And Dwayne Johnson. - It's so nice. - Do you think there's a man? - Oh, damn. - It's bringing it back to Penis's. - Well, I was just-- - I was just like, "Do you think there's a man whose penis you could blow on "and it would make the sound of a flu?" - No. - If it has two holes. - Of course not, okay. - You don't think so. - Well, isn't it just the air drop? - You were right for stopping yourself from asking that question. (laughing) - I liked it. - If you blew in a dick hole, would it make a flute sound? - Would I have a question? When did you meet your boyfriend? - I thought you were going to say, when did you lose your virginity? - Wow. - All right. - Crazy. Okay. We met in 2016. - Oh my God, a long-term boyfriend. - No, we weren't dating. We worked on an MTV show together. - Oh, what? - And then we started, yeah. - What'd you do? - What was your role? - I was a host. - Hell yeah, what was he? - He was a host. At the time, were you like, this is my big break? Like, this is the best thing that's ever happened to me? Or now? - No. - No, I was kind of a brat back then. I was like, oh, I just want to stay in Minneapolis and tour. And they were like, you have to move to LA 'cause I signed with Atlantic. I was working with Ricky Reed. And MTV had me do the show at the same time. So I like very, dragging my feet begrudgingly moved to LA. But then we started dating in like, 2021. - Did you think he was cute in 2016? Like, did you like him a little? - No, I had a rule that I couldn't. I don't, the people I work, not that I, not just, they disrespectful, but I have this rule was like, if I'm working with a guy like, yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I don't like to, yeah, it's close. And you don't even see him as a guy. - Yeah. - Psh. - Do you look like the popcorn guy? - So then you guys read, you met again? Are you like hooked? - Stay in touch. - Stay in touch. - We stayed in touch. - She stayed as friends. - I remember. - And now how long have you been with him? - Since 2021. - Do you know what I remember? I remember, I'm hoping this is the same guy. But I'm, if not, we'll cut it out. - Okay. - I remember you were like, we were working. And you were like, so anxious because like some pictures my viral of you on a boat is that the same guy? - I swear, the paparazzi love this man. Yes. I've never had, I've never had paparazzi chase me. - Yeah. - It chased a photo of me in a person with him. I'm like, you know, I've dated other people. - Yeah. - Paparazzi don't. - I like him. - They like him. - Who's like the craziest person that's ever slid in your DMs? - I'm like, oh my god, I've had a lot of. - Like the craziest person. - Every single. - Don't say rapper. - Why not? 'Cause you did. - Sign in, sign in. (laughing) - Did you slide in? - No. - Are you sure? - No. I'm not sure. (laughing) - Do we like that? - We'd have to know. - Like I might have slid in and-- - To say hi. - And praise you. - No, absolutely. - I've got some slides to say hi. - No, I want a slide, like-- - That's a slide slide. - Hey. - All of them. - Really? - Yeah. - Everyone. - Do you ever, like, with your girls? - With your-- - One's that you would think. - With your girls? - That's fun. - Wait. - Not more, obviously. - Wait, can I ask? - I'm gonna name a person and we're gonna blank it out. It's not even-- - Before we get there, did you, was it so exciting? - I was really confused because mind you, I'm a, you know, I grew up a big girl and I grew up like, guys didn't like me like that. So then once I-- - So beautiful? - I know. Thank you. - You have like a timeless, beautiful face and like, they like will be remembered forever. (laughing) - No, you really do. I didn't, where I grew up, like, if you were fat, you were ugly, which that's not true. Fat doesn't equal ugly, but where I grew up, that's what it was. So I was kind of invisible to all the guys. No one likes me in high school. One guy likes me in high school and he was like, so ashamed that he would like pass me notes, like come and hook up with me at this place. And I was like, no, I'm not gonna do that. Fuck is wrong with you. So, when all this shifted-- - Yeah. - And I started getting these DMs that were, I was confused. I was like, I don't even know what this person's intention is. I thought it was all friendly, like, and people had to tell me, hey, no, this person is trying to fuck you. I was like, what? Like, I'm so oblivious to things like that. - Yeah. - Even for this day, I might be-- - I am, too. I'll do something and she'll say that the woman was flirting with me. I'll say, well, that's-- - Yeah, I don't want to. - It's not an idea. I just thought the people were the same. - Were you high in high school to people? - No, I mean, I was not, no, people would look at me and they would say no thanks. (laughing) Yeah, I didn't have curly hair. I didn't have a beard. I wore glasses full-time. Full-time, like, a hairy potter. - Oh, my God. - Yeah. And I was, yeah, so-- - You're sweet, though. You had a good personality. - Yeah. - I would have dated you. - You would not have dated me. I'm telling you. I would have been your friend for your best friend. - Absolutely. - And that until now-- - There would have been one month where you were like, wait a minute. Is it him? - Yeah. - And I would have-- - We would have had a month, then we would have to wait for like five years. - Wait, well, when you have been friends with her, waiting for her to find your child. - Oh, yeah, that's what it was. - That was my only way in to the women that I wanted. - The long run. - I wanted the women-- - Right. - So I knew that I had the personality to be the friend. - Do you think men and women can be friends? - Oh, yeah, yeah. For sure. I have a-- - I could be, like, such a good friend with you and we'd be-- I could just already tell, just, like, personality-wise. - Yeah. - And I feel like-- - But you would be, like, secretly attracted to me. - No, I have-- - That's your-- - I think you would-- - I think you would be. - No, I really think you would be. - Would you ever leave Kristen for-- - Is that-- - For anywhere. - I feel very much capable of being, like, able to cease a woman's personality and be like, I desperately want to be friends with that person and want to be friends with them. - Yeah. Like, when he was, like, I would never leave her for anyone. I was like, yeah, so I feel the same way. Like, I don't care who the fuck-- - Yeah. - Other human beings don't even exist. - They don't even-- I don't even care. - Yeah. - It's about being loyal. I'm just a loyal person. - All right. - But I have a question. It might be an annoying question, is it, like, when we reached this point where the pressure stood as far as engagement and proposal? Or do you guys not even talk about that? Is that an annoying question? - I think we both have the same, we've talked about, like, are the values, and I think we have the same values. So I don't even really put pressure in that area. - Yeah. - You know what I mean? Here's the thing about me. I'm told you how I grew up. I was the nerdy big girl that nobody liked. I was content with going my whole life single. Like, I was prepared to, like, never get married, be a virgin forever. Like, I was fully prepared. - Yeah. - Would you like him to? - Why would you say it like that? - 'Cause he's right here. You ready? Come on out. He's got a whole thing. Bring out the timpanias. - Not so fucking timpanias. - I was asking my mom, like, her biggest celebrity crushes, and her top three were, no, were Richard Geer. - Wow. - Idris Alba. - Classy. - Yeah. - And. - Denzel, she said. - Oh, she loves Denzel. - Denzel, okay. - Denzel. - Did you know that? - Yeah, he just told everybody. - He said that. - He didn't say it to me, but he said it. - No, no, he was Denzel, and he's Denzel Jr. - And what form did this information-- - He put that interview. - Yeah, he did an interview, and he said Denzel. And he said that, y'all have been saying my name wrong, all this time, my name is Denzel, and his dad is Denzel. But when they were, you know, growing up, his mom will call him Denzel to differentiate the two. - Oh, okay. So, these three are the truth, and the people are saying that. - But it's like the Ariana Grande, Ariana Grande. - Is it Grande? - I think she said her name is Grande. - Really? Rihanna was one for a while. - But it's Rihanna. - Rihanna. - It's Rihanna. - Isn't that crazy? It's not Lizzo. It's Liz-- - No, I'm just kidding. - It's Lizzo. - It's Lizzo. - I like Lizzo. - They know this, but when I went to overnight camp, I went to a new camp, and no one-- I wasn't popular, and I didn't have any friends, so to make-- to be cooler, I literally told everyone that I was Britney Spears' brother, and I would like-- I would be like, yeah, her name's Britney Bird, but like, that's like a weird stage name, so she'd change the street, and I would write myself letters from Britney. - Yeah. - And then-- - This is actually, in common sense. - It makes me-- - It makes me-- - Such an elaborate-- - And when the girls would come from the other camp, and we'd have dances, like once a month or whatever, like, word would spread that I was Britney Spears' brother, and I would get to dance with the prettiest girl. - But the story did make me question you. - Who's the first famous person ever to acknowledge you? Like, publicly. Like, to acknowledge your music to hit you up. - Um, Prince. - What? - Well, the first guy-- - Shut up. - I mean, that's-- - That's his all-time favorite art. - It's on the internet. - You know that's my favorite artist. - Really? - I don't know the principal. - I need to know all your print stories right now, because I'll tell you something after. - Um. - Don't. Give this away. - I was gonna say. - I can't stop. - I have to get it away from you. - I can't stop. Maybe I'm a professional. - Um, so I was in Minneapolis. I moved there for a little bit to, like, you know, it was a dark time in my life. And--
Wait, why did you choose Minneapolis? It was so fucking random. Was this pretty the cout, the Subaru? This was post Subaru. This was like post works time in my life. You were still in my life? Yeah. Evermoves them are cold. Well, okay, 'cause what happened was is I eventually went up to Denver to be with my mom and them for a little bit. Um, especially like after my dad passed and stuff. And I met this guy, actually met this girl who was like, my good friend 'cause we worked at Cirque du Soleil together. And then this guy-- Fuck did you do with Cirque du Soleil? I worked for Cousa. What does that mean? Cousa? It's a show. It's so good. You got to see Cousa. What did you do? You were like a trapeze artist? I used to go to bars and tell people I was a contortionist. That's true, but I wasn't. But I wasn't. Were you like a dancer? I was a photographer. Oh, that's what you're doing? And I wasn't even like qualified to be able to talk to all of us. I would fake it till I-- Whoa. And better be. And better be. I'll fake it till I make it. So, I ended up meeting this producer. We were writing via Skype. And he was like, I'm moving back to Minneapolis. Like, come with me. And I went to South by Southwest that year. And every artist I met in the street was from Minneapolis. And I was like, all right, there's enough musicians. So, I went up there, stayed with him. Like, I slept on a lot of couches in Minneapolis. Like, I owe a lot of people my life. I sent, like, checks to people. Like, I decided to make him money. Yeah, 'cause I was like, thank you for letting me sleep on your couch. It's cool. I was a couch surfer. So, I was there. I started a girl group. We got, like, local attention. And then Prince found out about the girl group. And he was like, I want to work with you guys. So, then he-- We went to Paisley Park. We worked on this song for-- he had a girl group called Third Eye Girl. Prince did? Yeah. And so, we, like, hopped on the song with them. And I did my verse. And I was like, I'm about to go crazy. I'm about to rap. I'm about to sing. I'm about to-- and then after that, he was like, come perform. So we performed at Paisley Park. He did an interview and he was like, who are the next big things? And he was like, Lizzo is up next, I promise. And that article is just out. Were you in him like texting and talking? Like you were like, no. Oh. No. No. If Prince said to you if he was like, if he was like, I want to marry you right now. Would you marry Prince? Like this is pretty, when you had no boyfriend or anything. Like, and it was like, like, were you that? Like, I was like, so in love with you. Like, so in love with you. You would have married him. Like, I would have considered it, for sure. Yeah, for sure. He was like, so important to me growing up. And my mom was friends with Prince Patrick. Okay, so what's your story? Yeah, those are crazy. My mom and dad used to live in Minneapolis. Oh. Friends would never have happened if you didn't go to Minneapolis, right? And never. Yeah. Oh, wow. So it was all meant, that's. Yeah, he was really supportive of like local Minneapolis artists. Yeah, it's so crazy. But I wasn't like, Janelle Monet, like, flying all planes with him. And you've never had like a full, like, in-depth conversation. No, he just offered to produce, executive, produce my album. Wow. But you didn't do it. Tell me your story, because I have so many regrets. I didn't, I didn't. But you outright said no. No, I didn't say no. I would never say no, but it was just like the timing. Yeah. The timing didn't work out. Yeah, that's two big regrets. What's your other big regret? With him? No, just in general. What's the other. Well, I want to hear her. 'Cause I have a bunch with me. Okay, tell me that. That's the other regret. There was this whole. Okay. I had this song called Paris, and he loved that fucking song. And I remember, at this time in my life, I had just put out Lizzo Bangers. And it was David Letterman's final season. And I remember it was like, you just got an offer to come do Letterman. And I was like, oh, fuck yeah. I'm taking it. I'd never been on television before. It'd never been on late night. At the same time, um, Prince wanted me to come perform at Paisley Park. He wanted me to perform Paris. He loved that song. On the same day, Justin Vernon was working out at April Bays. He had Kanye and like, everybody down there working on that all day, era. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I was like, do I go to New York and do Letterman? It was all the same day. Oh, my God, that's so hot. I go to New York and do Letterman. Do I go to Paisley Park and perform for Prince? Or do I go to O'Clair and like, write for Kanye? Or do you just kill yourself? That's like, I guess. That's crazy. I chose New York with Letterman. But you did the right thing because look where you are now. I wouldn't say it's a regret, but that was like one of the craziest things you have ever experienced. Well, that is such a conundrum. That's crazy. I was like, what do I do? Do you want to know one of the scariest decisions with me? Yeah. By the way, if you guys want to-- Oh, my God. We can get in burgers and then there's some-- Really, we really like burgers. What? You're mean? No. I said, I know. I want to know. I did terrible in school. I did terrible in school until I went on after. But you were like popular. Yeah. Popular. Well, I had a lot of issues with-- because I was like flunking, I had ADD and I didn't know-- well, I knew, but I wasn't that a kid to like my freshman year. Kids liked you. You were-- They did? You were the hot girl. She was well-liked. That's like the Regina George effect. But I was nice. I wasn't Regina George. Yeah. And I wore pull-ups, okay, until I was 13. So give me a break. You wore pull-ups? You peed your pants? Not during the day, just at night. Why? What happened? My brain hadn't-- my bladder hadn't matured. You know, it takes a while-- No. It takes a while for your bladder to matured to your brain. I don't know. You didn't have the problem. No! What happened? I really caught. I caught. Isn't your average? Keep going. I'm in the middle. Again? Go, keep going. Okay. Well, personally-- You put your variety path, fun. Personally, I'm a peach guy. I'm a mango strawberry ruby grapefruit. And I'm blackberry. I just, you know, I got the hand that I was tell. And I love black cherry. No, no. What do you-- What do you mean? We can't open it on the thing. No, you're not a lot. Open it. You can't drink it. I can't drink it. We can't drink it. Yes. I just like to stare at my peach white claw until I'm off camera. And then I drink the whole thing. She's drinking from a green heart-salter with flavors. White claw, shelter, worship, cacao, Illinois. Cheers. Cheers. You touch my lips. Touch my lips, too, Baxa. What would you guys pair your Oli-Pont flavor with a meal? What would you pair it with? Like, for me, obviously, I have a Shirley Temple. And I would have probably a burrito. With this? Burrito? Yeah, with fish. Oh, yeah. You want a fish burrito? Yeah. You're having a fish burrito with a Shirley Temple. I'm going to stick to what I've always thought, which is waffles. Oh. A digestive. Yeah, for my breakfast. That's not what it is, a breakfast. What about you? Potato pancake. What? A lot cut? Yeah. By any two cans of Oli-Poppin' store, and they'll pay you back for one. Any flavor, any retailer, go to drinkallipopp.com/fks. Cheers. Cheers. I was a late bloomer. 26? Yes. 28. I lied about it for a long time. Yeah, it was. I just tell you the year. Mm-hmm. 2024. 2025. 2020. Oli? I'm not crazy. Were you really building it up? Were you excited about it? No. I wasn't even thinking about it. For me, it was like, I just promised myself when I was younger that I wouldn't have sex until I won a Grammy. What? Wait, I love that. I know. Are you serious? I'm so dead-ass. No way. Do you think you would have stuck to that? No. I thought you would have fucked it. Had you not won the Grammy? That's great. That's good motivation. That's crazy. You should have said fucked the night of the Grammys. If you did, that was definitely the best night of your life. Did you talk to the night of the Grammys? No. It was not the night of the Grammys, but it was. First of all, when you won a Grammy, you should have said, you should have said, I was never going to fucking tell I won a Grammy. God, who wants to fuck tonight? Did you have to tell everyone that you were having? You were like, yeah, I had sex before. I used to lie. I used to lie. Yeah, so stressful. It's so embarrassing. Especially when you're a college, I lie. I can't even wait off of my chest right now. Let her tell the story of lying. I have a first question. When you won the Grammy, were you so excited in the Grammy, but were you also like, I can't wait to have sex? No, I wasn't even thinking about that. I didn't even know that it was in my card, so I wasn't even really set up for that. I was just like. I didn't really relate to the lying thing. When you were a college, they were like, hey, you're going to go. You're going to fuck this weekend? I'm like, oh, yeah. Like, it's kind of a non-stop. It was so embarrassing. I was in like a friend group of girls. We were all girling one night, and it was just like, wait. Lizard, are you a virgin? No! I remember it was so embarrassing. I said, I love the D. I said that. It was so fucking embarrassing. I love the D. I love the D. I love the D. I was like, I love the D. And it held me over for a little while. Really? You were right when you said, I love the D. They were like, oh, she's good. They moved. We moved to her. I had my first kiss at 21. What? I know. That is late. And it was. Oh, my god. You had your first kiss at 21. You were focused on your career. I was so. No, you have no idea. So it was religious for me, too. When we were teenagers at my church, we all made a pact that we wouldn't do anything before marriage. Of course. And then I was just so scared. Like, nobody wanted to kiss me. Yeah. First kiss at 21 is crazy. Do you know. Were you like. It was scary. I was actually very upset about it. Yeah. Because it was like a New Year's Eve thing. And he, like, forced it on me. Yeah. I was really mad. And I was like, my first kiss was ruined. I was so mad. My first kiss, guys. I was the last guy of all my friend group to kiss the girl. The girls were huddled up and they were talking. And they were like, just. Kissed Dave. And then I saw her being like. Oh, blah, blah. And there was all this chitchat about it. And then eventually, after the chitchat, she was like, okay. And then I kissed her. And I remember the feeling.
of the tongue on the tongue was overwhelming, was gross. - I don't like sharing drinks. - I don't like tonguing or swapping of spits. The only person I like it with is my man. I can't stand it with anyone else. - I agree with him. - It's a lot, it's a lot to-- - Some people are crazed. - Some people go over like this. - Some people like to spit in each other's mouth. - I can't believe that, it's so disgusting to that. - It's not cool. I mean, it's cool, but-- - That's cool. - I can't even remember. - That's cool. - I meant like just when you were kissing. - When you like someone. - I was so shy that I would, you know, did you have an aim and you were like instant messaging people? I would like have a relationship with someone where I would talk to them every day. Essentially, and we were kind of dating, and we would sit next to each other in class, and I couldn't say a word to her. Like I literally couldn't even speak to her. - Oh my god. - Yet we were kind of exclusively dating. - Why was your aim name? - Boobard, B-O-O-B-U-R-D. - What was yours? - Pikachu. - Pikachu for 88. - Oh my god. - What was yours? - Well, I had two, I went through a phase. One of the popular girls in our high school had faxie brown, which I was like, that's so cool. - So that's pretty. - So then I made mine X-mya after, like, Maya. - Your name is so, she's so cool. - No, but mine was A-Y-S-O-A, which was just like the Youth Soccer League. - It's by my life. - Yeah. - What was yours? - Benny Blanco. - J. Benny Blanco III. - Yeah. - We always knew who he was. - Yeah. - He knew who he was from. - J. Benny Blanco III. Why was it three? - Iverson. - Iverson. - Whoa! It was just going to be Benny Blanco. - This is a safe space. But have you ever gotten cornrows like Iverson? - No, I haven't. - You've never done it. - No, I haven't done it. - Can I tell you something? - They tried to get us to do it on Mafia Thon, and I said, - Hey. - I want to tell you something. - You got cornrows. - No, it's not what you think. I'm from Philadelphia. - Okay. - Alan Iverson is my childhood hero. - Crazy. - You know. - Wait, you see, I'll both love Iverson. - Yeah, yeah. - But now your kid are Iverson, but I love it even more than him, because I grew up as a sixther span. - He was yours, yeah. - Isn't he right up there, the picture? - Yeah, if you go up to the second floor, there's a huge frame picture of Alan Iverson. - Yeah, sir. He's the answer. - Yeah. - Today I was offered, not today about a month ago, I was offered a commercial opportunity to be in a commercial just me and Alan Iverson for a large amount of money. - Why didn't you do it? - 'Cause it was today, and you were here. And I wasn't gonna ever try to even be a scandal. - No. - I actually hate that. - It was today and tomorrow. - I actually never speak to me again. - I am. - I'm so happy with this outcome. I really am. - This is your prince Justin Vernon. David Letterman has to be, doesn't have to be. Maybe this is the right way to be. - Yeah, but listen, Letterman worked out for me too. - I just, I can. - I tried to say to him. I said you should- - This episode's not gonna come. - There's no way. (laughing) - And I told you I said you're gonna, it's gonna pay off and you're gonna like it and you're gonna have fun and it's all worth it. - Yeah. - That's crazy. Thank you, I'm very honored. But also like, what the fuck? Like a Beyonce. I'm sorry. - You can. - I'm ditching you for a party. - Can you tell me? - I'm just kidding. I didn't mean that. - If you had a chance to do an in- - Just while I'm blocking the line. - Oh, thank you. - Who are you gonna say? - If you had a chance to do it because you know it could be so crazy. You have a chance to either do an interview with Trump right now and you could say ask him anything you want. He's gonna cooperate and talk to you. And it's like on your Instagram and TikTok, you get to do whatever you want or you get to have them with Kanye right now. Would you do them more than be here? - Yeah. - Yeah. - And Trump over Kanye, just for the, 'cause it's more important. - How do I say this without being like, okay. If I, okay. That was a crazy question. - I just thought of it right now. - The people who are like the most powerful in the world right now are just like, who's cannon. And you're just like. - It's so crazy. - Where are we? - I've never met Barack. I know you met Michelle. - I've never met Michelle. - I thought you met Michelle. - I've never fucking met Michelle. - Yeah, I remember he, I remember. - He looked concerned. (laughs) - Really? - Why? - I don't know. But I was like, what's the contact? - No, I see. - Barack was just like, he was like, how are you doing? - And I was like, that was a good, that was like a good, that was like a half way to the minute to do it. - And I hugged him and you know what so crazy presidents are tall. - Yeah, he seems like he's like, they're all tall. - Yeah. - Because it was Biden, Clinton, and Barack, all in the same room. They were all tall. - Trump is tall. - Trump is tall. - I don't know. - Trump is tall, Trump is tall. - Biden is there. - Oh yeah, Biden is like six, three or something. - They're like, six, one, six, like six feet minimum. - You don't think about the height of that. - Wait, did you see that? - Abraham Lincoln tall is shit. - Yeah, yeah. - Push a smile. - Push a little. - Oh yeah, but it's real small. - Five, nine probably. - What's the documentary we watched? That was so crazy. - Man, huh. Oh, some have been live. - Yeah, there was some have been live. And it's like, you see, you just see Obama making the last decision. - It's like the last dance, this is a horrible way to put it, but the last dance is like the stock you serious about the Chicago Bulls, like the Michael Jordan Bulls. - Oh, yeah, okay, yeah. - It's like behind the curtain, you see like Jordan's like motivation, and this is kind of like that for 9/11. - That's a bad comparison. It's wrong with you. - All right, you see, you see Obama, like in the-- - How much do we even use? - You see Obama in like the strategy room, and he's like, you just see all like this. - It is cool to watch. - You see behind the scenes of the entire-- - Well, my 11 was Bush, right? And then Obama came right after that, and he did the-- - He got-- - Well, we still had to come up with the exact-- - Yeah. - Yeah, I know so little about politics. - I know too much. - Guys, war is big business. - Hey. - Yeah. - You sure? - Can I tell you-- - There's no real reason to do it, besides money. - Can I tell you guys about my regret? - Oh, yes, honey, let's take it back. - Let's move on, because I can really get into it. Unless you guys wanna talk about war. - No, I don't wanna be on the back of saying anything, but I wanna hear what she has to say. - Yeah, nothing, wow. You don't sound like the internet at all. The internet disagrees with everything, I say. It's so crazy. I could say like, this guy is blue, and they'll be like, did you hear that? They'll clip like three seconds of me talking about him, like, and she said, the sky, I don't agree. I'm like, I don't understand. So that's why I get so scared with like, saying any of my opinions, because they'll clip something together, and they'll just make up their own story about it. - Trustful. - Do you read comments? - No. - I haven't read comments in, like two and a half years. - Yeah, what made you stop? - Everyone hating me? (laughing) - You so love 'em, you used to be like, yeah, that's what I was. - Yeah, well, I would like at least read the top, like, 10, but my top 10 was even like, die, and I was like, all right, I'm gonna stop reading these now. And then now I have my like, private page. I have Lizzo, IRL, and it's a private page that only my fans can be on. There's only like, 290,000 people in there. - Oh, man. - And I kick people out all the time for saying crazy shit. - Yeah. - And I just talk to them, and I can read those comments. That heals me, 'cause now I'm an internet girl. Like, I can't just go away. - Yeah. - I have to be. - You're so good at it. - But you completely removed yourself from like, the old internet, like, you don't read any of them. - Old internet. - Well, I don't know. You said you have a Lizzo. Like, a Lizzo core for it, yeah. Lizzo core. Okay, wait, you have a regret. It's not even a regret. It was just we were talking about something music related, and you were talking about the Prince thing. - Yeah. - So I was in a predicament one time. Me, Sia, and Stargate have written a song. I gave the beat to Eminem, like, six months before. And I get a call, and they said, "Em needs the files for the beat." And I said, "I already gave the song to Rihanna." - Don't tell me this is the love of the way you lie. - No, it's diamonds. And then we get another call that Kanye wants the beat now. And that's why Kanye is on the remix to diamonds, because you originally wanted it for himself. And I was like, trying to figure it all out, and then we gave it to Rihanna, and then it all worked out. - This guy, you're talking about it. We're in beautiful, like, diamonds. - Yeah. - Kanye was on the remix of that? - Yeah, there's a great remix. - Who would be your number one male artist to collaborate with and make, like, a collab love song with? - I've been thinking about this for a long time. - You don't have to say, "May." - A little dickie. - A little dickie. (laughing) - There's no and a little dickie. - You know who sings they fucking ass off. - Little dickie. - Little dickie. - You know who dance they fucking ass off? Little dickie. - He's that. - You know who rap they fucking ass off? Little dickie. - He is really good. Biggest sway freestyle. - I saw one freestyle, and you were like-- - Did you like it? Or you can be honest. - I thought it was very clever. Like, like, to be that quick and clever. I forgot what you said. It was like a little penis joke. - Uh-huh. - Everybody freestyles. I freestyle. - Oh, and I'm like-- - I want to freestyle. - You want a freestyle? - I want to hear you freestyle. - Fuck. - I want you to, like, do a song, a song freestyle. Like, you don't have to rap. You can, like, sing it. - Let me go P.P. 'Cause I'm scared. - I want to do it. - Tell me about Canva. - You know what? I am going to tell you something about Canva, because I have a date coming up. And I'm going to cook a whole meal. But what I really want to do is have, like, the sweetest, like, menu. And I'm going to design it on-- Canva makes it so easy. 'Cause I'm cooking off freaking day. I don't even know if I can use curse words. But this is real life. And this is what happens. - Canva gets him going. - And-- And I'm going to make-- I'm going to be making food. - So let's just say, like, what's the thing under there? - Sushi, Japanese. And I need, like, a fire. I'm-- you can give it-- it's so easy. You can give it just, like, very simple task, and then it makes you a whole thing. - Do you write, like, appetizer, then it's, like, the-- - Yay. - Something in the lobster, like, way better. - Yeah, it's going to be amazing. - I don't know if it's ideas. - Yeah, I've thought a lot of them. But with Canva, it makes design easy for anyone. - Does it? - With Billton AI that lets you remove, generate, and animate content. And just to click, start designing today at canva.com. - Design now. - Betty, I love her. She's fun. - Yeah, I like her too. when she comes out, you should ask her if she wants to come.
to the Airbnb house thing. - I mean, we do have enough rooms. - A lot of bathrooms? - Yeah, we have enough bathrooms, but it's like, well, I like made food reservations and I have activities. - I also think socially, it makes absolutely in those sense to be someone for the first time. Like, I'm on the spot, yeah. - Okay, okay, okay. - She's my friend. - She's my friend. - Okay, okay. - You guys are making it up. - Yeah, I can't run by. - Yeah, I'm through. - How loud does it come out of the. - It comes. - That's all you need. - 'Cause they don't wanna come. - Whoa, I just need the headphones. - Yeah, yeah, that's good. - I wish I could do something. - Oh yeah, it's like. - Oh, it's like, oh, it's so cool, yeah, it's so cool. - That's not what he's crazy. - Oh yeah, hell yeah, yeah, yeah. - You're such a good boy. - How do you got a shit? - Oh, right, shit. - Really after shit. - No. - Okay, who's going first? - No, it's just playing. - Lizzy. - Yo, sexy guy. ♪ Sexy guy ♪ ♪ When I gonna talk about that ♪ - Whoa. - Do you want a headphones? ♪ I need a sexy guy ♪ ♪ When I gonna talk about that ♪ ♪ All night ♪ ♪ Take me to your big apartment ♪ ♪ Stay the night ♪ ♪ Baby, go crazy, baby ♪ ♪ Need a sexy guy ♪ ♪ All night ♪ ♪ Take me on a long drive ♪ ♪ Oh, you'll think it, think it, baby, I can take it all ♪ ♪ All night ♪ ♪ I said your name for you ♪ ♪ Ooh ♪ ♪ I know you need me for a 4 a.m. ♪ ♪ Yeah ♪ ♪ I know you need me at 9 a.m. ♪ ♪ Yeah ♪ ♪ I know you need a little slice of 4 inch penis ♪ ♪ To provide you with the thing I am ♪ ♪ I'm sorry I hate that I took it there I was wrong ♪ - Okay. ♪ If I could prove myself on what I would ♪ - Okay. ♪ When I see you I get what ♪ - Whoa. ♪ When I see you I feel good ♪ ♪ Do you want to bend me over ♪ ♪ Mentally I'll let you take over is what I'm saying ♪ ♪ Mentally I'll let you flip me over is what I'm saying ♪ ♪ Don't get the signals you're sending ♪ ♪ I'm gonna be the one that's doing the bendin' ♪ ♪ Heaven you wanna send it ♪ ♪ 9 a.m. 3, 2, 2, 1, 8, 0, 0, 4 ♪ ♪ Hear me all on the low ♪ ♪ We're gettin' inappropriate ♪ ♪ Don't care if you got a 4 inch dick ♪ ♪ I'm gonna sit on it ♪ ♪ Don't tell my boy friend ♪ ♪ Whoa ♪ ♪ Ones you don't tell my wife ♪ ♪ She's right here ♪ ♪ But she doesn't see clear she never gets ♪ ♪ Dancing has stood ♪ ♪ She dancing her ass off ♪ ♪ Looking like a cutie by ♪ ♪ Was popular in high school ♪ ♪ We won't forgive you ♪ ♪ A couple nerds over here ♪ ♪ Except for Benny, he was always a star ♪ ♪ You know who you are ♪ ♪ Now she twerkin' her ass off ♪ ♪ I can't tell 'cause that ass lookin' solid ♪ ♪ And now she twerkin' her ass off ♪ - Wow. - Take it to the hook. ♪ Is that skin inappropriate ♪ ♪ All in it 'til seven in the morning ♪ ♪ All day ♪ ♪ Give it to me always ♪ ♪ Your 4 inch dick ♪ ♪ 4 inch ♪ ♪ The 4 inch dick ♪ ♪ It's 4.9 ♪ ♪ But it is wide ♪ ♪ Just take your time ♪ ♪ We could slide on night ♪ ♪ It might be relevant ♪ ♪ It might be inappropriate ♪ ♪ You know I'm joking shit ♪ ♪ Now I'm provoking it ♪ ♪ Just hoping that we could get some time alone ♪ ♪ There's all ♪ ♪ Dickie ♪ ♪ Like the way you got that shit handled ♪ ♪ 'Cause you know that I can't get more canceled ♪ ♪ I'm not gonna hold this shit ♪ ♪ I don't burn it like this ♪ ♪ Can't no baby tell me ♪ ♪ 'Cause you handle it, handle it ♪ ♪ You're so kinder that's happy ♪ ♪ On top of that you're a badbie ♪ - Yay! - I like that. ♪ On top of that I'm not crabby when I'm around you ♪ ♪ I'm happy when I'm around you ♪ ♪ Let's fuck ♪ ♪ With consent ♪ ♪ You know that I'm down with it ♪ ♪ This is, ha ha ♪ Wait, who was Rick James? What's her name? This is like Rick James and Fire and Ice. What was her name? She died. She passed away. She was sad. She was an icon. Lisa? - No, no, she didn't take it. - Tina turned it in. - Tina turned it in. - No. - The lady on the handle mountain high. - Tina turned out to tell me, "Fade, tell me, "Fade, that's not her name." - I got it. ♪ I'm wrong ♪ ♪ Please don't put this in the fucking podcast ♪ ♪ Or the song ♪ ♪ 'Cause they gon' call me out ♪ ♪ But not knowing ♪ ♪ Who sang with Rick James ♪ ♪ It was a white woman with a beautiful voice ♪ ♪ Oh, oh ♪ ♪ This is all ♪ ♪ Bluey, unfamiliar with ♪ ♪ What we're talking about ♪ ♪ But I know that you're from the south ♪ - That way. ♪ But you're also from the choice ♪ - Yeah. ♪ So you know I'm gonna be a bad boy ♪ ♪ I know this that you like girls from Detroit ♪ ♪ We know what to do ♪ ♪ And baby, we can keep it moist all night ♪ ♪ Yeah ♪ ♪ We be rolling with the boys ♪ ♪ Don't fight ♪ ♪ And I'm gonna put it down like I'm a piece of rice ♪ ♪ Just not all night, not all night ♪ ♪ Not all night, once your choice not all night ♪ ♪ Not all night, not all night ♪ ♪ Once your choice not all night, not all night ♪ ♪ Once or twice ♪ ♪ Not all night ♪ ♪ I feel ♪ ♪ I love you, you know ♪ ♪ I love you ♪ ♪ I love you, there's I just do ♪ - I thought you were gonna say. - I have an all in my penis. - No. - Wow. - All right. - You gotta take us out with the ad here. - That was so good. - Oh. - That was kinda fun. I know. - That was a good ad. - Unfortunately, we could do that all night. - And appropriate is the title. - That's the title. - And appropriate. - Yeah. ♪ Let's get in appropriate ♪ - I like it now. - It's so good. ♪ Get in appropriate ♪ ♪ Let's get in appropriate ♪ - That's good. - Oh! - Oh! - It's good. - It's good. - It's good. - It's good. - Yeah! - She can't use those bridges. - This bridge is impossible for her to sing. - It's good. - Well, I don't know how many birds you were here. She was doing really good melodies. - I don't know what a thing. I don't know what it is. - Her, her. - It's 'cause of Brittany. She's a huge Brittany fan. - Oh, who is that? - She loves that. - No, you killed her earlier. You have melodies. - Really? - Oh. - You heard what she said, Dan? - Oh. - You have good melodies. - You said I had good-- - I said you have good melodies. - I just can't sing. - Oh. - But I can dance. - I'm gonna do it, Kristen. - Oh. - No one can hear me. We have this voice. I can't. - Yeah. - I'm not taking any more from us. - Wait, did you just rap it first and not even sing? - I don't put-- - You always knew you could sing. - I just rap. I didn't know I could sing. - No way! - I didn't know I could sing. - No, I put this on everything I love. - What? - I did not know I could sing. - How could you not know you could sing? - Because I grew up in like-- - How you sing in the church? - No, I didn't sing in the show. - Your voice like-- - Oh, so-- - With me two different, like-- - You're saying there's a church level of voice that you didn't feel like you had. - Yes. - I felt like I could sing after-- when I did 'cause I love you. - I'm crying, 'cause I love you. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I was like, "Okay, I can sing." But when I did worship and coconut oil in all those songs, I wasn't doing it. - You're so good. - Back in the day, you remember, it was like there was rappers and it was like the hook girl. And it was like just really like kind of like fucked up thing 'cause these girls wouldn't get credit or nothing. - Of course. - So in my mind, I was like, "I'ma be the rapper and my own hook girl." So I would just like sing my hooks and sing the melodies, but I didn't think I was very good. - I don't even love this song. - And now you do so much like vocal stacking and like she's so crazy. - So much fun with it. - She's so good. - But I've always been like a songwriter or a ranger. I would write songs for other girls. So I would have girl groups. And I would be like, "Okay, this is your part." And this is your part. - And this is your part. - You're very much like a producer. - She really, you know, there's, you know, some artists like, just get in and they like sing a song or some artists get in and they just like, and they just like write a song and sing it. But she's like so involved in every part of it. Like she'll be like, "What's that snare drum?" Like in like, just like, she's like you. She's very much like you. And it's like, you're really-- - I hear everything. - Are you gonna, you should be a, are you gonna produce her credit on all the songs? I'm just starting.
- Me too. - To get produced. - Me too. - First of all, I never got to be so long. - I never got to be so long. - And they produce, you do with me. - Right. - I don't. - You don't. - You should. - I know. - No, no, no. - Are you even trying? - No, because you came with the beat already done. - I can't remember. - And then everyone in their, like Max Martin. - Yeah, yeah. - You, I like everyone to get. Like, honestly, like, I'm like a credit like. I'll give, I want everyone to get it, every day. - So is everyone to get it. - Other than Benny, it's the producers that keep you from getting the credit. - Well, there's different. - There's different stuff because-- - It can be insulting. - But if you're in the room-- - It's all because she's the hardest. - So a lot of producers are like, you're getting the whole side of like being the artist. - Right. - Right. - Right, like, at least give us the beat. - And beat the artist. - Some producers don't write too. Like, I write the song, like, I used to do all of it by myself. So I used to write the song and make the music and write the lyrics, and the melodies, all of this stuff. - I want to produce or actually get mad if you were like, I want to produce and cry. - Sometimes, actually-- - Sometimes people get, like, they're like, a lot of people have egos in their business. And they're like, they can't, like, first of all, let alone separate it from like a man. Oh, if a woman is trying to get-- There's not really a producer-- - Like, you really felt like you couldn't even ask for it. - I didn't even know that I was producing, and so actually-- - Yeah, you're a producer. - He told me-- - You're a producer. - He was like, yo, he was like, you know you're producing. Like, I've seen you do enough. - No, you're a full producer. 'Cause you'll make the chords with your mouth and stuff. - Yeah, so I literally, this time, I had to be like, hey, this was my definition. And I was like, this music, mute my vocal. This music wouldn't sound like this if it wasn't for my direct input, I'm a producer. - Yeah. - And that's how I kind of fought for different songs. - They get producing credits out for free on TV. You don't, all you have to do is just say that you wanna be a part of it, and they get really-- - Really? - Yeah, that you should, it's a different-- - If you even, if you even, like, with TV, if you like, if I connected you guys like, and I was the connector, I might even get a producer credit. - You might get off. - Yeah. - He'll get an executive producer credit. - Stop! - Wait, let's executive producer. (laughing) - You know, every single time I hang out with you, I'm like, I really wanna be best friends with Lizzo, but like, yeah, I do, I say it, I say it like every, but then I'm like-- - Well, what's it say to be your best friend? - Well, but then I'm like, but then I'm like, she doesn't even, I'm like, she's so focused, she doesn't even have time. And then I'm like, I'm like, I want her, and every time you come to like, my parties or something, I get like, so excited. But then it's like, it's like, oh, how would I even like, jump into like, best friends? It's like so hard, so hard life is so full. I think about it a lot. - It's really sweet of you today. - I really do think about it. - You're too busy, friend. - It's us that I'm busy, I'm just-- - No, and she's like her own personal life. - I have a bubble, I really do have a bubble, and I'm very guarded about like, who I'm friends with. I wish I had more close friends. Like, when I came into this industry, I had like, a tight-knit friend, that kind of all broke apart. And so now I'm just like, I have two, I have three friends. - Who are they? - Salana. - Salana, Chante, Alexia. And it's like, I want to be more friends with people, but I just, I'm just at my house. - Yeah, I'm too scared to even join the bubble. I like our, like, I'm down. - You like this. - Well, I'm scared, I'm scared if I get too close, and something happens, it might not be the same. I'm just like, I'm just gonna-- - No, I'm actually, I'm so chill. - I know, I just want to say-- - We can be friends without holding each other socially accountable. We can just like-- - No, I don't like that. - I hate that. - No, I don't like that. - Okay, we can-- - No, I hate that. - You don't have to come over once a month for us to be friends. - I like plans. - I like plans. - No, I like plans. - I love plans. I love food. I love, I love-- - Yeah. - 'Cause the first time we met, we got food. - Yeah. - And I was like, this guy's cool as shit. I thought you were like, black and-- - That was-- - You were just talking about that. - You were just talking about that. - That was so long ago. That, what year was that? - 2016. - I've been with like, 1617. But when I got the invite to the wedding, you guys, I really do feel special. I know that I'm not as close as you guys, but I was like, oh my God, he really likes me. - I will say, I was like, when you went to the bathroom, I walked over. I said, I don't want her to leave. - Yeah. - Oh, wait, is this the end? I hate it. - Yeah, it's the end. Do you want some pizza to go? - No, thank you. - I do want to say, I do love all the stuff you're putting out. Like, thank you. - Yeah, well, she did it. She did a super turn. - It was-- - I have to tell you about this before I leave. - Okay. - Before your number ends. - She had a super turn, and it was-- - Shit was crazy. - She had a super turn, we had that call, and then you started doing all the right things. - You inspired me. - And you took it into your own hands, though, so people can believe it. - Right. What happened was, is I did like the, I know, something that might be mine. - I don't know what I did with mine. You keep on doing like that. - I don't know. - Yay! I'm going to text you. - Please. - So what happened was, I did the two-year album process thing, where it was just like, I went in and I was like, people are really going to need to hear this and over thought and over produced a little bit, and I dropped a single after not really knowing with the landscape of 2025s, and I dropped it maybe February, like early, and it was just like, and I was like, whoa! That was different. Not that I needed people to be like, oh, you're back! But I was just like, my fans don't even know. - Totally. - I would be talking to my fans, and they're like, so when are you going to drop music? I'm like, girl, you know, like-- - I know. - I mean, the things that I'm mad because I'm flopping, I'm like, no they-- - Everyone is flopping. - No, we have to redefine flopping in 2025. So that happened, and I remember I was really frustrated, and I talked to you, because you and Selena were everywhere, and I was just like, oh, they're killing it, like, their music is connecting, and you told me, like, switch it up. - You really just have to be, what people want to do is they want to see you, and you're so good for this, they want to see you be yourself, and they want to see you just be real, and do stuff that, like, you love, and you never know what's gonna happen. It's like, you never know what song's gonna be the thing that connects anymore. Like, you used to be like, you made a song, if it sounded like a hit, it was a hit, and now it's like, you make some, like, intro on your album, and then that thing comes to you. - That's also. - Yeah, and it's just like, you just have to, like, keep doing what you love, like, every day, and, like, I just do things like that I love. I'm like, oh, my God, I think it's so fun to, like, go on Kai's thing, or I think it's so fun to, like, find, like, these kids, like, making videos that are, like, really cool, and then, like, going and doing one with them, because it's, like, when I was a kid, if someone would have done that for me, it would have been so awesome, so I just try to think about stuff like that. - Yeah. - Your stuff is, I'm, like, very, uh, snappy and critical, and, like, have such a high bar of, like, what I find to be interesting, and I almost feel, like, I have, like, a monopoly, even over, like, a certain type of song, and just line of thinking from a song on the writers' perspective, and you're the only person I've ever seen that, like, I feel like, is putting out music, where it's from a perspective that no one else could ever, would ever even dabble in that perspective. - Yeah. - Because it's not an accident, yeah. - No one can do your music. - Exactly. - I appreciate you saying that, because I try really hard, and I work really hard to make good shit, and for it to be appreciated, like, that. - Well, it cuts through my brain, and, like, yeah, I'm just like- - Yeah, that's through everyone's brain. - I appreciate you really reset me, like, talking to you. I was like, "Okay." - How come you never reset me? - Oh, man. - You're in the process. - You're going to be turned upside down, and- - Oh, he's going to turn you out. - People just want all the intensity, and they want real control. - No, I sure. - Are you dropping? What are you going to do? Are you interested in music, or are you also in the- - He's more interested than ever. - He's more interested than ever. - He works on music every- I've been dating- I've been whatever with him for six years, almost every single day. - Let's keep hanging out. - Yes! - Oh, my God. - By the way, I'm never- - You'll love the dynamic and the lack of pressure of our friendship. - Oh, yeah. He's, Dave is like a- - No, man. - He's like, I'm his best friend in the entire world, and without this show, I'd say we hang out once every two weeks. - I don't know why. - Too much work. - Oh, honey. - And I'm his best friend, like, he would hang out with me every single day if he didn't have something to do. - Is that true? - Of course. But, pre-her, yes. - Pre-her, sure. - Pre-her is crazy. - All right, Lizzo. Yeah, yeah, this was so fun. Oh, I really appreciate that. Oh, I can't really love hanging out with you. I can't really love hanging out with you. I can't really love hanging out. Oh, it's my favorite. This was amazing. This episode was brought to you by White Claw. Please drink responsibly. Hard Salter with flavors. White Claw Salter works. Chicago, Illinois.
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Key Points:
The episode features a humorous and personal conversation about music, relationships, and life experiences, including a surprising connection to Prince and a pivotal moment in the artist's career with the song "Truth Hurts."
The host shares a story of overcoming early struggles, including being a shy, overlooked person in high school, and a late blooming in personal and romantic life.
A major emotional milestone was the success of the song "Truth Hurts," which became a chart-topping anthem and a turning point in the artist’s career, despite years of minimal mainstream exposure.
The conversation includes playful and candid discussions about sexuality, first kisses, and personal boundaries, highlighting both embarrassment and honesty in real-life experiences.
The episode is sponsored by BetterHelp and Oli-Poppin', with a focus on mental well-being and the joy of simple, shared experiences like drinking and social bonding.
A recurring theme is the value of authenticity and personal growth, from early fears of judgment to embracing one’s identity and finding joy in music and friendship.
The narrative includes humorous anecdotes about pranks, musical influences, and childhood heroes like Alan Iverson, blending personal and cultural references.
The host reflects on regret and pivotal life decisions, such as choosing to perform on David Letterman over a Prince performance, illustrating the balance between opportunity and personal values.
Summary:
The episode blends personal storytelling with humor, focusing on the journey of a musician through early struggles, self-doubt, and eventual success. The host shares candid memories of growing up in a quiet, overlooked environment, where being shy and unassuming shaped their early life and approach to relationships. Central to the narrative is the breakthrough of the song "Truth Hurts," which achieved mainstream success after years of grassroots touring and limited recognition.
The conversation explores themes of authenticity, personal growth, and emotional resilience, including reflections on first kisses, late-life romance, and the fear of judgment. Humorous anecdotes about childhood heroes, pranks, and musical influences—like Alan Iverson and Prince—add depth and levity. The episode also touches on mental health, with a sponsorship from BetterHelp promoting emotional well-being, and includes playful discussions about food, social dynamics, and humor.
Through these personal and lighthearted moments, the host presents a narrative of perseverance, self-acceptance, and the joy found in real, unscripted human experiences. The tone remains warm, relatable, and full of vulnerability, offering listeners insight into both artistic triumph and the messy, beautiful reality of everyday life.
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The episode is sponsored by Whitecloth, a brand that promotes responsible drinking and highlights the importance of making mindful choices while enjoying alcohol.
Zermango is a playful, fictional flavor introduced in the segment to represent a fun, lighthearted moment, symbolizing a summer day at the beach and a casual, energetic vibe.
Many individuals, like the speaker, strongly dislike spitting or sharing drinks during kisses, citing discomfort and personal boundaries, and only feel comfortable doing so with their partner.
The song 'Truth Hugs' was the artist's first number one hit and became a turning point in their career, marking a shift from a dedicated but underground fan base to mainstream success, despite initial lack of chart performance.
The artist built a loyal fan base by performing at churches and high schools, where they could connect with audiences on a personal level, forming strong grassroots support before gaining broader recognition.
The artist shares regrets about not performing at Paisley Park with Prince due to timing, choosing to appear on David Letterman over performing for Prince, and not having sex before winning a Grammy.
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