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The Latest Top-12 Intel vs. What We Would Do in the First Round

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The Latest Top-12 Intel vs. What We Would Do in the First Round

The transcription covers NFL draft speculation two days before the event, focusing on top picks. The host reflects on being misled about the Jets’ second pick, originally reported as Bailey or Reese, but now leans toward Bailey. At pick three, the Arizona Cardinals face a divide: the owner favors running back Jeremiah Love, while the GM prefers edge rusher Arvel Reese, though a trade back is likely. The host notes that Love is the best player but edges are more valuable. For the Tennessee Titans at pick four, recent intel suggests they may choose linebacker Sonny Styles over Love, surprising the host, who would take Love due to his dynamic playmaking. The Giants at pick five have multiple options—Love, wide receiver Jordan Tyson, safety Caleb Downs, or tackle Francis Maui Noah. The host argues Love is the clear choice, citing his pass-blocking improvement and ability to support quarterback Jackson Dart. Finally, the Cleveland Browns at pick six want to trade back, with potential targets including offensive tackles or Alabama’s Caden Proctor. Throughout, the host emphasizes skepticism of late leaks and prioritizes long-term tape study over recent rumors.

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[Music] What's the league saying? What should they do? That's what today shows all about two days until the NFL draft. Good mench. I'm great man. Tuck a roll that fee. [Music] Fandall is a wonderful sponsor of this show. I've set it from day one. Dablin, I love it. I love the app. And with NFL GMS, utilize it. I hear you. I hear everyone out there. Yeah, I said Bailey one day. I said Reese the next. I said Bailey. I said, "Oh, interesting odds on plus 480 or whatever the number was." You're listening to the McShay show presented by Fandall. And soon, we'll all be listening to all the names called in this year's NFL draft. But with Fandall, you don't have to just listen because Fandall has all kinds of bets on where players will land. You know I love this stuff. Not only can you bet on who will be drafted first overall, but you can also bet on whether a player will go in the top five, top 10, and so much more. So if you don't already have it, be sure to download the Fandall Sportsbook app today. Must be 21 and older and select states 18 plus in DC Kentucky or Wyoming. Can you handle any of these things? I'm going to talk about the other 31 teams that I'm talking to a GM and then I'm talking to an executive and then I'm talking to a scout. And so there's just a lot of information flowing. Right? And so I may have, and I probably did get used on the Jets number two overall pick. I don't, I do care. I'm not going to hide from it and retreat. And I'm sure is shit not going to be stubborn and not come back and say, hey, 10 days ago I had the right information. Then in that lasted about eight days and for 48 hours, I think I might have been used as a friend of a former friend for a friend of this to get out there because maybe maybe our Val Reese could drop some more interest in the number two overall pick who knows. And it's not even about like do you, well, it all matters as I get it right at the end. It doesn't really even matter then it's a mock draft. What are we talking about? Fandles is wonderful sponsor of the show. I love the app. I love the app. I love the app. And if I GM's check in on the bottom of the odds and all that. And yeah, we have a sponsorship. And so one has nothing to do. There's church. There's state promise show. Okay. That's number one. Number two is both players made sense. And I promise you this decision came down to Bailey or Reese. And I know 10 days ago they were still kind of ironing out all those things. So 48 hours we got misled a little bit more back on today's show is not about the information though I will share it today's show is feels like 10 days leading up to every draft mentioned you and I get like throwing this roller coaster of all right, we've worked 360 days or 355 days watching tape study and preparing go to all star games going to combine all that stuff get draft boards a top 100's coming out tonight. Right. Yep. Draff's coming up tomorrow there are two separate entities. This is the mock draft get the sources what's going to happen and it's exciting and it's fun and some real good football conversations happen and you learn some different things about organizations what they view. So it's really all good. But I don't want the stuff to get lost. I don't want like the real to get lost in all this so let's today I'll tell you what I'm hearing. Okay. And it's from NFL teams and it's what they think and they're calling and asking me questions and I'm asking questions but mostly there and we're going back and forth. So it's what they're talking about. So hopefully if you're in it for that today you're going to get plenty of it. But like let's kind of remember. This is what we do right. Is it the right thing? Well we make this decision. So number two David Bailey is going to be the pick for the New York Jets. Then at number three it gets interesting. We've all heard. Oh, well you go with Bailey or Reese. I would take Reese. I would take Bailey. I would take our Val Reese. I think he's going to be a more dynamic explosive player. We'll see why it where he winds up landing. I think it's very important you have the right plan for him the right utilization of him. I think when 10 years from now our Val Reese is going to be the better NFL football player. More dynamic impactful defensive player in the NFL than David Bailey. I obviously love both of them. They're both in my top six players. I believe I got to go and look at the definitive board but it's out. And you're looking at it. What do I have Bailey six? You have Bailey at six. Thank you. So six. I'm with you either one I like of course. But if I had to choose between the two I would take Bailey. Okay. So now we're on to pick three. Pick three. Here's the information. Why does the love stuff leak in the last hundred hours? Is it phony? Is it real? Jeremiah love ownership is the word that I'm hearing from every team. Her ear. It's the owner. Yeah. Yeah. Here's the owner to the owner wants to bid well wants to once Jeremiah love. But but Monti wants Austin for the general manager wants whatever edge assuming they stick what I do know and what I know everyone in the organization is united on. Let's try to get a trade out. So for these purposes we know it's if they stick in pick it's either love. Or it's the other edge which it which it will be Reese. So it's love or Reese. Then you have the history. Well that's but let's get into this. You're Austin for owner says I love Jeremiah love. But it's your decision. I hired you to do your job and that's what a good owner does. Do your job. Who is it Reese? I'm taking the edge. Are you worried about the history of all hundred percent? We've we've brought in conversion players. Right. Isaiah Simmons being a great example of a day on Buchanan's a different deal but still there's a third one that I keep forgetting that. Darryus Robinson was the defense tackles us. Yes sort of so there's been first round guys that have not been this is a specific role and they've tried to convert or using hybrid. Hi breads right that have not been worth the value. Doesn't factor in. It does factor and I just think the running back at I mean they have so many other issues that running back at threes is too rich for me as much as I really like the player Jeremiah love is the best player in his class. I think edges are more valued for for good reason they help you win football games quicker than a running back well and I don't know if they're built to really have Jeremiah love come in and hit the ground running so to me you take the edge you take the safer pick. My question for you other than that you want to talk about whether you would take love or Reese I want to know everyone in the world knows these guys want to trade out they want to trade back. Would you take a less than market value deal to move back because that's they might you might have to take that absolutely within range. What's range give me a range so here's what I'm concerned about if I'm not the awesome for okay I'm concerned that there's. There's two offensive tackles that you believe can absolutely solve my problem and that's assuming that you believe both can in Francis Maui Noah and Spencer Fano Miami Utah respectively strapped week can assume that everyone's watching right make sure that we we let everyone know so there's two offensive tackles are sitting there top the board right and then you have the question of beyond that. And looking at their situation obviously they just resigned Parachands and it left tackle we know that they brought in Isaac sumo suamalo now you've got Elijah Wilkinson at right tackle and only Udo like it's they need a right tackle we all know they need a right tackle yeah so. Maui Noah and Fano are both veteran long time veterans at the right tackle position 24 starts for Fano and Maui Noah is three years start of Miami after Fano played his first year I think it was 11 or 12 starts left. Right so both are like but there's Maui Noah the reason why these offensive tackles aren't in the Joe all range or you go back to like we can go all the way back but is because Maui Noah could be a guard you worry about that a little bit better fit it guard I don't think I think he's a right tackle so if you're asking me who I'm taking I'm moving back with the hopes of getting Maui Noah but can I move past six right. So Tennessee am I going to just move back one spot yeah do it yeah don't care what you give me right if I don't want reason I want to move but but then I'm still faced with him I take him Maui Noah to I don't view it as too high it's like if I need to solidify my offensive line but I do view it as this there's Jeremiah love there's our Val Reese there's sunny styles there's Caleb downs and there's Bailey in this class and Bailey's gone. So on my board the best The last four players are still sitting right there. I'm taking Fernando Mendoza out of this, obviously. - Right. - Jeremiah Love Reese styles and downs. - So who are you taking? - I'm taking Arvel Reese. - Okay. - I'm taking Arvel Reese 'cause I'm not prepared. I'm telling you, I have this offensive tackle issue. - Yeah. - I wanna move down and I'm taking a bad deal and I'm gonna move down. But I can't move past seven. - It's gotta be, so it's gotta be 10 to see. - I can't move past six. - No. - I can move to five but giants aren't moving up. - Nope. They don't need this. - These ones were treating if they can. - Right. - But you gotta assume Cleveland's gonna stay at six. So if you're comfortable with both offensive tackles, I can go to seven and I can go to eight. I can't go to nine 'cause if I let Maui Noah or Fano get to Andy Read at nine, I gotta believe that they could take him even though they need an edge in a wide receiver. - Right. - They could take him. So that's the move for Arizona. At the end of the day, I think you just stay and take the second best player on my board at a premium position and that's Arvel Reese and that's what you said. So maybe that's what they decide to do. - Yeah. - Ownership throws a wrench. Number four, Tennessee. It was Jeremiah Love, then it wasn't Jeremiah Love, right? - Is it Love again? Are we back in love? - No, I'm told it's Pass R Usher or Sonny Styles at number four. - Okay. - Yeah, Tennessee's number four is Pass R Usher or Style and the Pass R Usher would be Bailey and Reese. So in this situation, whether it's Arizona taking recent three or a team moving up in Reese Ghost Three, it goes Bailey Reese, then you're sitting there and I'm told it could be Sonny Styles over Jeremiah Love. That's the information right now. Because of the Fred Warner in that system, everyone I talk to in the league is like, yeah, we view it this way, but Sala is, I've even heard sort of like one in the media's head coach. It's about like, build the defense around the off-ball linebacker, right? So. - Yeah, you know what's kind of interesting about that? Is we keep hearing that the giants are out on styles? Maybe that's because they know he's not gonna be there. Maybe that's why the styles of giants talk is all died down because now they think he's going for. - I don't believe anything right now. - I know. This is, I'm just trying to put all these things together and I hear you like conspiracy theory wise. I feel like Charlie Day and always Sonny Phil and I'll feel with all the threads connecting and all that. - The smart information is go back to honestly the combine. - Yeah. - And definitely go back to 10 days in prior when teams are still feeling this thing out rather than, you know. - Yeah. - Ping pong and off of leaked information but more often than not is leaked for a reason. - Do you like styles there? - No, I would take Jeremiah Love. - Really? - Yeah, it's the best player on my board. I'm sitting at four. I've got a quarterback that now I can throw him, I can throw him a screen pass and pick up six. I can get him involved in the passing game. I go, "Polar, we can keep each other healthy." I get it, I understand. But the edgers are gone. - Right, that's what justifies it, right? - And I've got, I'm staring at Jacob Rodriguez and CJ Allen and Jake Galday in the second round. - Good players. - Good players. - Good values in that range, yeah. - And I absolutely, you know how much I love Sonny stuff. - I'm gonna throw him a screen pass. - AJ Brown, JS and I don't think he's that. - If Reacer Balear there, we both agree that it's one of those guys. But in this situation, they're not there. And as much as I love Sonny Styles and think he's one of the top five players in the draft, he's an off-ball linebacker. I'd rather take Jeremiah Love to it. It does surprise me when you do this though. - You're not as bad as Mel Kuiper who would never take a running back in the first round, but this is early for a running back. - I've never had a running back number one on my board. - So, there you go. - So the giants. - So the giants, this is the interesting part, right? So here's the information. The information is now all of a sudden again it's Jeremiah Love. - Right. I've got to assume it's Styles based off the information despite where we're going. So let's live in a world where it's Mendoza, Bailey Reese Styles, the board. And also our top four players on the board. So you're sitting there at number five and you're the giants. No, not Love. So Love is still available. The number one player is just switched because you believe Styles is going to tell me. - Correct. - Even though we would go in a different direction. - Okay, so Jeremiah Love is on the board. Jordan Tyson, who just made this trip, is on the board. Caleb Downs is on the board. Francis Maui Noah is on the board. Here's the interesting part for the giants. I'm getting used to these new cameras as you can probably tell if you're watching on Netflix or you're watching on Spotify. The red always means it's on, but there's green on the other one. So I'm going to go green, but now I'm back to red. So I get to follow the red. So I'm retraining my brain. So we're going to go red here and then we go red there. But then we'll go single shot back to red. So here we go. So now the Joe Shane part is fascinating because how much power does he ultimately have in this? And Joe Shane, for all of his faults, managed the hell out of the 2026 NFL draft, okay? Pick the perfect spot to go get Jackson Dart after Abdul Carter. And I know all the nonsense that went on the background more than I a lot, but they nailed it. You were looking at another situation, but you could also say what the last time they had two top 10 picks, didn't quite nail it, Todd, Tibido and Neil, right? So there's all that. But now you've got to manage this thing because we know they like Jordan Tyson. The giants are not one of those teams that hide their interest. They went out to Arizona for a second time, sent Shane out there. They love Jordan Tyson. But there's also that downs factor at the safety position with Harbaugh, okay? And I'm told they really like downs. Then I'm told recently and do we trust recent information? Jeremiah love. But you can't go Jeremiah love and then Jordan Tyson because Jordan Tyson ain't going to be there at 10. And I get news for you. Those very well may not be there at 10, but could be better shot that he's there at 10. So if I'm Joe Shane, I'm looking at this from a managerial standpoint. And I'm trying to work with Harbaugh and Harbaugh is from my understanding getting the last trigger on things. But what's our best one to? But I don't even know that you can look at it as a one two because what's our best one? That's what I'm trying to say. Taking at our board, our situation, our roster, is it taking Jordan Tyson? Even though it's higher than what you'd like to a wide receiver, is it taking down Caleb Downs at safety? Is it taking Francis Maui Noah at tackle? I wouldn't do it. Because I think you got four guys we talked about yesterday to fill one spot, figure it out, coach it, coach it up or take another guy in the third and try to get a rope. Four is it? Who did I not mention there? I think you got them all. Yeah, love Tyson Downs Maui Noah. Yeah, it's love. It's love. Jordan Tyson, I love the tape. I worry about the durability concerns. It's too early. Caleb Downs, I love the player, but for safety, that's just too early. And then Francis Maui, we're going to talk about the fact that he might have a, he has a reporting of a herniated disc and now there's just one more layer to that evaluation. So yeah. And again, like you said, there's bodies there. They have players there. Germain Illumina was coming back at right tackle. They don't need a right tackle. They need a guard, I think. Now, you could, you could feel that need by kicking Illumina or inside. I understand all of that. But then you have Jeremiah Love and you have a young reddit back in Scataboo who's coming off an injury and has, you know, I don't, I think reckless is the wrong word for his running style, but it is a very aggressive physical runner that's more likely to get heard unfortunately. And I hope that's not the case, but we've, you know, that's the reality. And you have this unbelievable talent running back to come in and help your quarterback by not only improving the ground game, but also being a weapon in the receiving game. And one of the things we've talked about with Jeremiah Love that I don't think it's enough attention is the leap that he made as a pass blocker over the last year. He was so talented in 2024, 2025, he was a different person in past protection. He just got way better. You're adding all of these things. I mean, that just makes me more comfortable again. The offensive line is not as big as the need. Jordan Tyson. injuries too early and Caleb down to safety too early. So it comes down to Jeremiah Love. I am absolutely positively 100% taking Jeremiah Love here at number five and I'm going to make that the establishment. The establishment is we've got a strong offensive line that we've been trying to build for years and we're going to line up and we're going to punch in the mouth. We got two backs that can beat you and one's got four, three, six speed. The other one is a pounder and it's just great complimentary backfield that could be. And then we're going to take pressure off of Jackson Dart there and and what's see who's available at 10. Maybe it's still Maui Noah. Maybe it's Fano. Maybe it's down. Maybe it's down. Yes. We'll work that out later. I'm taking the best player in this year's draft with the number five overall pick. See you at pick 10. Yep. No question about it. And honestly, that's what the that is what the information is in the league. Not necessarily that the giants will absolutely take love at five, although it is the recent information, but the information is more so he ain't getting out of the top five. So yeah, and remember Harbaugh and Baltimore had good backfields and then they had injuries hit the backfield. I mean, they lost multiple running backs in one season. He might want to sit. He's going to say to himself, we need more than one or two. We need depth there. All right. So we at Cleveland at six. We all know that they would like to trade back for the same thing. And I've heard from Maui Noah to Fano to Proctor. And I don't know if Proctor, like Proctor could be the surprise because Cleveland's capable of anything at this six overall pick. There are people in the league that are a lot higher on on Caleb Proctor. Caden Proctor. Caden Proctor. Not Caleb Proctor. The defensive tackle from Southeast Louisiana who's probably going to be a top 100 pick around 94. Love it. Caden Proctor from Alabama fits the analytical portion of it with the long gurr arms. And he did everything at the combine. And he is big and traits matter at tackle. And they're flying Jay the analytics from DP, DP Desto to end. It's this is what they do. Right. I'm not saying he's going to be the pick there. It could very well be Maui Noah who didn't work out at the combine. Like, but it's going to be an offensive tackle if they stick there. I don't even think I have to ask you who you would take. You would take Spencer Fano. Yeah. And I wouldn't even look back. You think he's the best offensive tackle in the class? I think my Noah is. I think honestly, if I'm if I'm like gap scheme, if I'm like power, oh, I'm going to line up with Maui Noah. If I want to be a zone wide zone and like Utah's offense is wild, man, like tackle pulling out of the screens and it was it. It is. Yeah. It was a wild ride. Um, so Fano's also played on the left side. So I like that aspect of it because I think they need I think they need a left tackle. So, you know, it's not that I don't think Maui Noah can do that. And it is an it's abnormal for guy with arms that are that short. I mean, we talked about Will Campbell last year and how short his arms were. Well, Spencer Fano's arms were a half inch shorter than Will Campbell's at the combine. So that's that's what we're talking about. But the athletic profile is of a left tackle. The way he moves is like a left tackle. We got munk in there like with Georgia, think about the Georgia off that Georgia offensive line. And they come out. We actually test really well. Big guys test well. But we're talking about both winners. We're talking about Baltimore. Yeah. Maui Noah. Yeah, we're talking about. We know. It's Maui Noah. Yeah. Glad we solved that. That's one we can count on. Yeah, but they can also trade out because that, but yeah. So cleave and they'll get their wide receiver later. There will be a wide receiver at 24. Those receivers are going to go, but they're going to go after the offensive tackles and some of the edges and two safeties and all of that. Um, so there's that. So we both agree like as the GM, you got to look at, okay, Todd, what do you need? Munkin that is not myself enough. You know, um, third, what is it? Uh, speaking myself in third person person. Yeah. Um, so Munkin, you want Maui Noah fine. You get Maui Noah. Got it. That that solidifies the offensive line. Now we get to wide receiver at 24, right? Right. And there's going to be concept KC conception or and or Denzel Boston and or Omar Cooper Jr. Yeah. Those are the three. Yeah. And doors. Those are the three and doors at wide receiver. I mean, does it Omar? Do you say Omar Cooper Jr. Yeah, you did. Yeah, those. Okay. So that's what, that's how they're going to manage this draft is is everyone's understanding and it's the right way to manage it. So it's seven. We get to Washington. Um, styles went three, right? Yep. That's all right. Four. So in this situation, we've got Mendoza going one of the Raiders. Obviously, Bayley, two to the jets, three is Reese to the Cardinals. Four is Tennessee taking styles to be their Fred Warner. Five is the Giants to love. Six is Maui Noah. This is actually how this could thing could wind up working out. Seven is Washington. Sonny styles is not sitting there. Caleb Downs is there and Carnell Tate or the two. There's been a lot of talk about Tyson there. I'm told I was told a while ago there are tape team. Yeah, we're take guys. David Blow if you look at I actually did was looking into David Blow and what he wants to do. He's looking for physical receivers guys like Carnell Tate. I can simplify it for that. The description of what he's looking for in his first year's offensive coordinator, surprise decision, either a big mistake or they got ahead of someone who's going to be an absolute star in the league. Obviously pulling for the latter. Yeah, but he wants a big physical receiver. Carnell Tate is a big physical receiver, right? Yeah, and so that's that would be a perfect complement to a former another former Ohio Statewide receiver. What would we do? Because I'm told it's down it comes down to Downs and Tate, but I want to give you the honest to God truth. The last conversation I had was very authoritative and that was this pick will be defense. Quinn has got it. What's the word? I want to look it is priority is a too light award. It is it's a demand. It's a mandate. Thank you. My brain doesn't work that well this week. It's a mandate that that we get that defense fixed and we'll give you the resources, but if it's Caleb Downs and that it's got to be Caleb Downs. It's hard to land for melcy and maybe it could be I'm this is the information portion of it in this scenario. It would be Downs or Tate, but I'm told defense is going to win out with this pick. So I would expect if sunny styles is not there, it's going to be Downs. Now I'm asking you with styles off the board and the lane is there and Tate is there and Tyson is there and but I think we can rule out Tyson because it won't fit what right offense of coordinators looking for. So it's Downs and it's Tate and it's it's the lane. I'm taking Tate. You got to get Jane Daniels another playmaker and as much as I like Jordan Tyson and think that he could be the best receiver in this class if he's healthy and didn't have the injury history. That's just not the case. He does. I mean, he's had a hard time staying healthy and to me, the risk versus reward there isn't good enough for me to pull the trigger on Jordan Tyson. I'm taking car and I'll take you've had success with another Ohio State receiver and Terri McClorene. Bring in this guy and I know it's a different leadership group but bring in Tate. You get that weapon on the outside. There's no such thing as a safe pick but I like the risk versus reward of Tate there. You staying defense? Caleb Downs is in a different class of and it's you look at the board and you're like well you have Downs at five and you've got Tate at seven. You know me with my tears, right? He's a different bucket. Yeah, different. Different tier. I'm taking Tate too. I am. I believe this organization. Now if Downs was an ad rusher or even like an interior defensive line and I'm not talking team specific here. I'm talking like that would trump it for me. But we're talking about a safety versus a receiver and you just look at the annual top five paid at each position. It's not even close. Like safety's near the bottom wide receivers number three only behind quarterback and edge. And I can't let my I just can't let my franchise quarterback who already is coming off a year of injury be in a situation where he doesn't have the tools he needs to be successful. So I would take Carnel Tate. Yeah. I agree. And I actually wouldn't blink. Even though there's there's a difference in grade and it's slight and it looks like a 93 to a 92 but in my mind that that's something. Yeah. I'm taking Carnel Tate. All right. But I think just for the folks at home I think that that could be Downs. So are we going with Downs off being off the board? Yeah. Okay. Now you get to number eight, they get Tyson, they get Bane, the New Orleans Saints doing. This is what they want. If they don't have to trade up to go get a guy, in this situation it's Tyson Bane. And oh, in months of delay. - Yeah, this is the delay in range, I think. I think seven might be a little too early, but we're getting in right now. This is when I would start to look for him to come off the board, the corner from LSU. - I don't disagree. That's the intel. It's Tyson, it's Delaene and Bane. And Mention's getting calls right now from the league. (laughing) No, I. It's not dissimilar from what I just said, except now we've got an edge in there for, and I know the importance of that position. Brennan Staley needs like an explosive get off guy. He also needs a Montsour Delaene, exactly to a tip. But I'm looking at Chris Alave and. - I gotcha, you don't even say it. - Velae. - Yeah. - With his 25 catches a year ago. And I'm like, I don't know what. How do I roll a guy out there? How do I roll a guy out there with Alavee in that? And so that's the frustrating part for me. Looking at New Orleans and they pick again at 42 and 73. They get eight picks overall and one each round. - That's what I was just gonna talk. - Chalk. So now I gotta look at this as a combo pick. And the second round, there's gonna be a run of these corners. - Yeah. - And you're gonna have like the A, V, on, Tarels and the D'Angelo Ponds and. - Brendan C. Say. - We think Chris Johnson will be gone at that point. - Chris Johnson will probably be gone at that point. Jermaud McCoy, if he falls, it's only, but it won't be that far, it'll be because of the knee. Colton Hood will be gone, yeah. But there will be a couple corners when we pick again that would be worth the value. There will be a couple edges worth the value. There will be a couple receivers like there will be. - Yep, that's what I like. I like, you need a receiver that. - I'll take Carnot, I'll take it here again. - You would. - Yeah. - I like getting a delaying, a Montsourr delaying right now and then getting a Jeremy Bernard a stribbling in that second round rage. That's a better combo for me than the corner you're gonna get in the beginning of the second. I think what I'm basically saying is that I like the depth at corner, I mean, I receiver more than I do at corner and I am very high on Montsourr delaying. - But they're picking a 42 and to get. I'm picking a 42 and so you're looking at Chris Bell, Stribbling, Bernard, those guys. Or you're looking at A, V, on Torelle, Brandon, C, C, C, C. - Ponds. - G-Angelo Ponds, yeah. - Yeah. - I like getting a corner now. - But I also need an edge. - I know, that's where it's like Malachi Lawrence, Armason Thomas. - Acas maybe. - Yeah. - But yeah, yeah. - I think the lane's different than the rest of the corners in the class. You're getting the top player at the position. Although Ruben Banger and you would be really, really attempting to me. - The beauty is New Orleans kind of can't go wrong here. They're gonna get a great football player here. - It feels like if you take receiver, you're not reaching. I'm not saying that you're reaching, but I feel like there's better players, maybe available. - Honestly, God trying to fill in. - You know what I'm doing? I'm taking Ruben Bane. - I'm taking-- - That's fine with that. - I'm taking Ruben Bane because I can get a corner down the line and honestly, my corners, a lot of times, are only as good as my safety's unless they're transcendent. I think Montserrat-Delain is really, really good. I don't know that he's not Patrick Sartan. He's-- - We'll see, yeah. - No, he's not. - He's not built like that, that's true. - I'm talking the transcendent guys, you know? So I'm taking the edge, even though, yeah, I'm taking the edge there, but I don't know which direction they're gonna go. - It's a good problem for them to have. - I mean, if you're choosing between Delaan, Bane Jr. and Carnell Tate, the board is falling your way. - Yeah. - It sounds like Tate or Tyson could be the pick there though. - Okay. - But yeah. - You're taking Tate over Tyson though, right? - Yeah, I am personally. - Okay. - Yes, yes, yes. Kansas City's nine. I'm hearing this edge, Bane of available or wide receiver, Tyson of available. - No offensive tackle. - But Andy's saying we gotta get that, we gotta address that. So I-- - Maybe they feel like they can - They're gonna pop a little bit at the end of the first round, I don't know. - That would be my guess. - Okay. - Is that we've then make a move to go up if you're Kansas City. That's how-- - So who do we give to New Orleans? - We did. - Tyson, I think Tyson would wind up maybe being the pick. - Okay. - Mark comes out tomorrow. What's everybody changes there are? - Yeah. Kansas City, Bane, my intel is Bane if he's here, or wide receiver. So we're gonna give him Bane. - I would. - And I would, and I'd take Bane too. - Yeah, I mean, that's true. - I think that is as easy a pick as you can make. - So Tyson goes, A Bane goes nine. So now you're the giants, and we talked about this before. Tyson's gone. Downs is gone to Seven Washington. I've heard you want a-- - That makes sense to me. - Me too. - Yeah. - Makes sense to me more than Maui Noah. - And Maui Noah's gone six anyway. - Makes more sense in Fano. - Yeah. - Yeah, it actually does. - Yeah, for what Harbaugh does that mentality? And they need a guard more than a tackle, I believe. - It's funny, like I said in the top of this thing, why don't you just go back to the combine Todd, when you were having real conversations with people and just looking at this board and you'd watch the tape and then you go back and you watch more tape and it only confirms that love and reason styles and Caleb Downs and Bailey are the best football players in this class. And then the second tier and it's Carnell Tate and it's Montserratelaine and it's Mansor-Delain and it's Jordan Tyson, Spencer Fano, it's Ruben Bane and it's Venga Yawane, quite honestly. Yawane is right in the fringe of that first tier and the second tier of me. - The only knock on him is he's not as athletic as some of the elite prospects, but watch the tape, man. - Yeah. - He's damn good. - All right. 11. - 11's my name, he honest to God. - Who's literally the best player available? - It's this. (laughing) - What's our board, yep him. (laughing) Is there an offensive line, an or a defensive line? Can we keep him the front's shame grade? Okay, let's take the offensive line. Okay, all right, you have turned it in. Yep, thanks. That's John Ericksell. - Yeah. - That's my impersonation of John Ericksell. - Why? Because they need everything. They need everything and they're setting themselves up rightfully so and I'm pulling for the guy and I'm pulling for Jeff Hathley and I think they're really good at what they do respectively, but they got their hands full unlike many other situations I've ever seen in this league. We're from a roster standpoint, but you know how quickly you can turn this thing around when you start hitting like that. - Yeah. - To the Dallas Cowboys with the Ackman and the Emmett and the, like they were a disaster and then bang. So you can do the same thing in this day and age. - They got 11 picks man. - They got 11 picks and they've got four in the third, one in the second, so the seven of those 11 are in the first three rounds. First 100 players in this draft. Pick wisely and pick the best, you know? - Yeah. - So who's the best on our board? - The lane. - So you take the lane? - Yeah. - Truly, that's who we would take, right? - Yeah. - 'Cause love's gone, Reese's gone, Styles's gone, obviously Mendoza's gone, Caleb Downs is gone, Bailey was gone at two. Carnell Tate was just gone a couple picks earlier to, do we give Tate to anyone? - How do we not? - We didn't. This one, Mendoza Bailey, Reese, Mendoza Bailey, Reese, Styles to Tennessee, Giants was Jeremiah Love. - Yep. - Maui Noah went six, Downs went seven, Tyson went eight, Bane went nine, - Yep. - And Yawane went 10. - So Carnell Tate. Yeah, take them. Yeah. I mean, they have a knee there. Absolutely. But you could argue, Delaim. Yeah. And Maui knows still on the board, right? No, Maui knows that they're six. So, Fano is still on the board. Yep. I could see them going Fano. Right. Just FYI. Uh, okay. So, let's do two more picks. Twelve. That was twelve, right? No, that was eleven. Yeah, eleven. So, what do we. So, right now, left on the board, at twelve for Dallas, is Mansour Delaim. Turn it in its over. Yeah. Yeah. But there's nobody else. No, they don't need Fano. And Bane is gone, right? Bane's gone too, right? Yeah. So, that's Mansour Delaim. 13 is the. We're sitting there with the rims. So, we're. It's interesting. I think Les Sneed is a wild card on Thursday night. Munch five stars. Thanks, man. But before we run out of here, and I give Munch's five stars again, we got a huge week this week. The top 100 is out tonight. Go look forward on the ringer.com/mixie. That's the board that everyone's going to count. The board that we do pretty well. I don't jinx it this close to the draft. We do pretty well. 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Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. - The host discusses recent misinformation about the New York Jets’ second overall pick, admitting he may have been misled regarding Bailey or Reese. - The Arizona Cardinals at pick three have owner interest in Jeremiah Love, but the GM prefers an edge rusher like Arvel Reese; a trade back is also considered. - The Tennessee Titans at pick four might take Sonny Styles over Jeremiah Love due to defensive scheme fit, though the host prefers Love as the better player. - The New York Giants at pick five are considering Jeremiah Love, Jordan Tyson, Caleb Downs, or Francis Maui Noah; the host strongly advocates for Love as the best player available. - The Cleveland Browns at pick six are exploring trade-back options and could target offensive tackles or Caden Proctor from Alabama.

Summary:

The transcription covers NFL draft speculation two days before the event, focusing on top picks. The host reflects on being misled about the Jets’ second pick, originally reported as Bailey or Reese, but now leans toward Bailey. At pick three, the Arizona Cardinals face a divide: the owner favors running back Jeremiah Love, while the GM prefers edge rusher Arvel Reese, though a trade back is likely.

The host notes that Love is the best player but edges are more valuable. For the Tennessee Titans at pick four, recent intel suggests they may choose linebacker Sonny Styles over Love, surprising the host, who would take Love due to his dynamic playmaking. The Giants at pick five have multiple options—Love, wide receiver Jordan Tyson, safety Caleb Downs, or tackle Francis Maui Noah.

The host argues Love is the clear choice, citing his pass-blocking improvement and ability to support quarterback Jackson Dart. Finally, the Cleveland Browns at pick six want to trade back, with potential targets including offensive tackles or Alabama’s Caden Proctor. Throughout, the host emphasizes skepticism of late leaks and prioritizes long-term tape study over recent rumors.

FAQs

The host believes David Bailey will be the pick for the New York Jets at number two overall, though he admits he may have been misled by sources.

The Cardinals could take Jeremiah Love, Arvel Reese, or trade back. The owner reportedly wants Love, but the general manager prefers an edge rusher like Reese.

The Titans may choose between Sonny Styles and Jeremiah Love, with some league sources indicating they prefer Styles due to the defensive system's need for an off-ball linebacker.

The host recommends Jeremiah Love, arguing he is the best player in the draft and fits the Giants' need for a dynamic running back to support their quarterback.

Jordan Tyson has durability concerns, and Caleb Downs is considered too early for a safety. Jeremiah Love is seen as a safer, more impactful pick.

The Browns want to trade back and are considering offensive tackles like Francis Maui Noah, Spencer Fano, or even Caden Proctor, who fits their analytical preferences.

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