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The Last Word + Making the Decision To Not Start a Business

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The Last Word + Making the Decision To Not Start a Business

The podcast features a heartfelt and humorous exchange between the hosts, Benito Skinner and Mary Beth Rohn, as they reflect on personal experiences, dreams, and identity. They share intimate details about their fashion obsessions—like a coveted Louis Vuitton bag and vintage clothing—revealing a deep appreciation for rare, symbolic items. The conversation delves into their personal development, tracing their humor and performative nature back to early life, especially their relationship with siblings and the need for emotional protection. A major theme is the power of having the "last word" in conversations, which they see as an act of empowerment, authenticity, and self-assertion—particularly for marginalized voices. The hosts also discuss their stance on starting businesses, rejecting the idea of unnecessary commercial ventures and favoring collaboration over creation, especially in spaces like skincare and women-owned brands. They emphasize the importance of addressing real needs, like trans-friendly underwear, while criticizing excess in startup culture. The episode is laced with playful banter, personal nostalgia, and political awareness, including calls for voter engagement and a critique of over-commercialization. It closes with a celebration of community, fan engagement, and the joy of creative storytelling, while highlighting the hosts' commitment to authenticity, humor, and self-expression. The conversation ends on a note of empowerment, with both affirming that their unique voices and choices—like refusing to start a business or owning their last word—reflect a deeply personal and intentional life philosophy.

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The following podcast is a "Dear Media Production" "Hey, can you come pick me up?" "Yeah, what's wrong?" "Nothing?" "Pretty sure." "Yeah, no, I just need a ride." "No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no." "I just want to have fun." "Star here, you should." I'm Benito Skinner. I'm Mary Beth Rohn and this is right. Okay, ready? Mm-hmm. You're gonna do another Zarlarson intro. No, no, no, no, no, no. Something new. What would you like me to do? I read your heart is saying. In a French ass restaurant. Hurry up with my damn croissants, right Paul? So we've had so many crazy moments this season. When Paul, can you, can you shout hurry up with my damn croissants? Okay, so I'll say in a French ass restaurant and I just want Paul to go hurry up with my damn croissants. Hurry up with my damn croissants. I love Paul. Paul is so playful. Paul, yeah, you are. You're a good sport. Okay, so we asked our baronies for some questions. I know. I don't know why. It was just like car chat time. It's like I want them in the back. We're driving them to suck or practice. I thought you were going to say Subway or Sabaro. You know that was all of those. I said all of them. Yeah. Okay, so some questions, burning questions from our listeners. Dream fashion purchase. Oh my god, what a perfect question. You go first. Do you wagon? Bentley. Are you a Bentley guy? I'm not a car guy. I don't care about the dream fashion, right? Well, yeah, I just say dream purchase. Do you wagon? Do you wagon? Do you wagon is closed in a lot of ways? Yeah, well, it's close. Of course, it's moving close. It's moving close. My dream fashion purchase? For Christmas, I bought myself the Louis Vuitton Maricame Multicolor white speedy bag from the real world. That was one I had on my list for a while. That's what we like to call a grail. It's a grail. And so I have a few grails, but you got me when it was Jean-Paul Goethe shirt that Robin Williams wore. Not the actual one, he wore, but the, you know, the version of the body shirt. So I have that. God, you know what? I feel like as far as close I kind of want for nothing. I do have a closet that I really love. I guess Chanel flats at some point. For me, for you, size 14. I love the Dior Dracula bag. I would love to tote that on the set and just be like, mornin. Oh, and I really loved this old Prada shirt that it was like, it had Cleopatra on it. And it was like, it was called the Impossible True Love shirt. And it was such a like, I don't know, it just, when it came out, I was like, I've never wanted something more in my life. And I can't ever really find it like new and fresh, but I think maybe after season two, I'll find her. There's a vintage Cavalli dress that Beyonce wore. I think it might be the actual one that she wore, but I'm not sure. It's in my obsessions on the real real that maybe I'll splurge on this year just to wear something. Yeah, it's good to have those those things in the back that you're like, you know what? Maybe. Oh, God. No, there is this Dior jacket that's on the road. It was like from the Jack Kerawatt collection. And it like I wore it to this event. And the back of it was like painted with like a full, oh my god, it was so weird. Why don't you keep it? I had to give it back. It was a really expensive jacket. But yeah, I guess just like, oh, I would say it was a lot, but also none. Were you guys born this funny or did something happen that altered your brain chemistry? That's definitely something that I adjusted my show my hour. So you have to, yeah, come and see it. I love that. You should do that for kind of all of these. I do address this in my hour, of course. I do address this fantasy in my hour. I don't know if I ever felt funny. I always felt very performative and fake, I would say you. Yeah. Well, of course, you're so real. Paul. Oh, there's some really good questions. I think that I, yeah, I think I did feel the need to overcompensate for feeling maybe unloved and unlovable in school. But mostly, I think from school, because I just needed to like have something. I needed protection. Like I needed to be quick on my feet, maybe that, nothing from family or anything. I guess I'm like the youngest. So the youngest just is kind of naturally like performative and kind of likes to be the loudest. Yeah, I read a book on birth order and it definitely pointed to that. Yeah. I don't know if that made me that funny. I guess my siblings would be like, that wasn't funny. So it's like, you know, it's testing things. Oh, I mean, siblings, they are your harshest critics. If you think you're your harshest critic, you don't tell that to an older brother. You don't know what your siblings are saying when you're not in the room, or when you are in the room, yeah, or when I'm in the room with them, but I with your siblings with mine. I talked about this little in Puerto Rico, but I think judging your siblings' decisions is such a special privilege because your friends' decisions you will judge, but you might be more similar to your friends than you would be to your siblings and the choices that you make. Yeah. I think just like looking at your siblings and being like, well, I would never do that. Yeah, that's so fun. Yeah, you would never do that. And it's like when we were raised by the same people. Funny. Yeah. We traverse nurture in a lot of ways. Yeah, of course. We are not siblings. We are not siblings. I think it's finally time we say that on camera, we are not siblings. How are you liking your new prescription? Me. Yeah. It's good so far. I don't know if it's doing that much. I don't know. We'll see. Okay. We'll see. I mean, I just, I need to see it through. I just started to see it through. The last thing I'm going to do is say that it's incredible when I just, I want to make sure that if I'm really advertising this, that it's a, it's a, that doxies a full court. A full sleigh. And I don't know about that yet. But I do have such an itchy nose lately. Like it's just like dry up there. These allergies, this winter. Yeah. There's more for me to figure out as far as those winter air. Yeah. I'm going to be at winter air, probably in the nose. What's the winter air? Someone asked, do you know how pinky identifies gender and religion and political leanings? So pinky. Kabala. Pinky is a Kabbalahist and or a Kabaloo. And she, she, her, and she's a lesbian. And I know that because she will knock on near a bully stick, bully sticks. If you don't know what that is, you can Google it. Yeah. And understand why that means she does not. She doesn't, she actually doesn't like male dogs very much. She loves gay men. She loves gay men. Yeah. She has a special relationship with my brother's dog. But I think it's like, it's a situation chip. It's not romantic. It's a romantic theater girl. She is a theater girl. Yeah. And she's a lesbian. Let's see that for her. Yeah. Best practices for 25 year old mindset in 2026. My thing is like, back when I was 25, I think I was more shameless when it came to like calling people out of her texts and like saying things and not caring if I got a response. I think we need to like go back to that because I think it's just funny to send someone a text and be like, I know you're not going to respond to this. Like internally. It's your internal dialogue. But you just like say everything that needs to be said. Yeah. I think that's fun. How about we just our fear list this year? Yeah. Let's go into it. Like guns blazing ready to just light it up. Tiddy's out. Duddy style. Duddy's. And that's on that. Well, WDDD. What would Duddy do? What would Duddy do? Yeah. That's so interesting. That that sounds good to me. Ooh. I just got a crazy question. Yeah. Favorite burner on a stove. For me, it's front left. It has to be 100% front left. But in Puerto Rico, I did back right. You did do back right. I think that's right. Well, it has the most heat and I was making 27 scrambled eggs. Oh, I'd love to that. Oh my god. There was this funny photo where it's Mary Beth and there's like 28 jokes in a pan. And we were just laughing. She served that to us. Just rides and a whole Gaston breakfast. It's a Gaston protein breakfast for my big strong boy. The boys eat, right? Do you have advice? Do you have advice for the 25-year-old mindset? I feel like I cut you off. The 25-year-old mindset, I think, keep hope. Hope is dying, but think about those whoever that obey artists was. That thing of Obama that said hope. I think about that poster a lot and I want it back. I want hope back. I think that you can still have it. It's harder to, let me just say it's harder to have hope. I know you can find it because that feels very 25. We need to vote in the midterms. We're going to be out there for a bit this year because obviously we're taking a break between seasons, which is our God-given, right? Yeah. So I will be posting about it on my Instagram, but I can't track every good candidate. So it's like if we want, basically we need to like elect a lot more Democrats so we can impeach Trump. So please just be so locked the fuck in. We just like, I know it sucks and we know way more about the political system than we ever wanted to. But if we have any hope at like saving our country and like so many of the people in it, especially the vulnerable people. My president, Mary Beth Burrant. Nice to meet you. And I, if these walls could talk death row meal of these walls. Oh, you walking into Congress. If these walls could talk, they'd say Paul is doing it. I love you, Paul. Did either of you ever, oh, sorry, death row meals first. Death row meal. Yeah. I really love Shake Shack randomly. I have pizza because I haven't eaten real pizza in a while and like it wouldn't matter if I got yeah, because they delivered it to you. Or injection. I know. I just wanted to say it's the chair. They're giving her the chair. They brought back the chair for you. They had retired the chair. They brought it back for my girl because of all that I've done. Give me that archival chair. Oh, sorry. Fuck. Okay. Here's my article. That's the article. By the way, we don't believe in corporal punishment. Obviously not. Oh my god. That Can I can finally just something go without saying it's that we don't want your proper punishment? My answer no Yeah, I guess Shake Shack just came to mind so I'm gonna stick with that. Did either of you collect anything as a kid? Yeah, I collected Harry Potter Legos, which is funny given the turf Hogwarts and then all yeah young me apologizes He would have never done that. Young Minido Skinner Issue statement Oh my god Mary Beth did this thing where I was like this one person like said this thing about me and then they changed their tune And you said like any drama silences critics at blank appearance and I laughed about it For days I It's all that headlines baby. Mm-hmm. I could like to I mean, I like I would just it was trend-based like beanie babies I did have a Pokemon era, I guess Yeah, I guess I got my little CD like that. I could actually maybe not see VHS movies So yeah, I mean we are who we are amen and also a McDonald's toys If I had one I had to have all of them. I'm trying to think if I missed anything, but I'm sure my family will call me in Yeah, of course What's your fav pod studio you've recorded in? I really love this one. Melrose feels like home and I love the Great British Library There's something there. There's a magic in those walls. We have good episodes there I feel it because there's just something it's like you it's so easy to pull comedy from it I guess because it's just so like wait, you're talking about Gotham Bank No, no, no the Great British Library. Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, sorry I zoned out because so oh Deva behavior Benito Skinner walks off set of podcasts I have a really good one next Favorite time of day. Sorry if this is boring, but I'm being genuine This is such a hard question. Holy shit. I don't know. I think I do have mine. I don't know I love going to get coffee in the morning. I know, but I also love going to bed. Oh, fuck see I love 11 and I love like 30 I just got eleven so cool because it's like it's not midnight yet like you can still watch an hour of frankenstein Oh, I was saying 11 a.m. Whoa Love 11 a.m. I've done the workout. Now I'm on my laptop a copy's hitting. I'm a little manic I might shop online for 10 seconds maybe 30 minutes and then I write college smut College smut text you and probably FaceTime you around that speaking of smut. Notice it just says Noah's in today I'll show me how you video You want to show me how you I feel bad that someone's like private sexy stuff. It's mind leaked. Oh my god If these if these I go like this. If these needs could leak Do you think pinky can sense pair normal like You're so dumb activity Do you think pinky can sense paranormal activity? No, I don't think she can't. I know she can It's like Kerry Bradshaw insects in the city. Will you watch her eyes she's in ghosts she's in ghosts. Yeah If you had to be one age for the rest of your life This is the last question. What age would you be I think probably around where I am now because I haven't hit the aging cliff Where you become old so fast which happens in a few years from now. So I'm told through journalism. Yeah A.k.a an Instagram post. Yeah, I like this age. I'm like self-actualized But I still like to have fun every now and then to I like 32 It's really nice to say that I think this age. I feel pretty good in this age. Maybe ask us in a few years Maybe we'll say that age. I think so too. I mean aging is such a privilege me talking to people When they say they get when they say they got Botox. They got a new face. Age is a privilege. I don't think youth is wasted on the young I think it's like perfect. No, you're supposed to have it at the right time Completely agree. I'm just spelling shit. Also, did you know that time does not help with grief? I feel worse I feel so much worse the further I get from it the worse I feel I've heard that because it's like then you start to forget and then you feel guilty and terrible about the forgetting And you don't have as much to like remember and the absence like it just grows like you feel it more and more It's not like oh, they've just been away for a minute or something. It's like no, they're gone forever There are a lot of these things we've been told like repeated. I guess to like Help us feel better about moving through the world But my big statements thus far in 2026 youth is not wasted on the young youth is perfect and time does not help with grief I will say the only one that I've known to be fully true is this too shall pass Paul said that to me on our first date. Yeah, Paul said that on your first date Should we get into what you're right for? I think we should I'm writing for making the decision to not start a business Sorry, I have a lifesaver in it. It's delicious. Wait, what is it making the decision to not dissolve you said making the decision to not start a business Right? Yeah, and I'm gonna do having the last word these women always police and men's words We want us to say are we still that? I'm sorry Let's get into Venmo really quick. Well, so I have been a Venmo warrior for Probably 12 years. I don't even know. I've had Venmo forever since I could walk and talk You know when the money in your Venmo account just kind of Lerks like it's watching the movie but not actively participating in the fun commentary the rest of us are all engaged in It's like come on Venmo balance. We got to do something here and fast. Yes, exactly That's why you've got to get the Venmo debit card. I know you saw my ed Yeah, the Venmo debit card basically invites your balance into the real world You can use your Venmo balance when someone pays you which is incredible for someone like me You know someone who doesn't want to have to remember to transfer funds or wait three days after quote Transfer initiation has begun. I don't know. I guess I'm just kind of different like that Also as a fun little extra you can get up to 5% cashback when you level up with Venmo stash at your favorite brands It's giving financially savvy meets treat yourself And the best part there is no monthly fear of minimum balance. 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She just asked if I could pick up some or greed it from Sanirita Margaret. - Find yourself, bitch at SaniritaDrinks.com. - Must be 21 plus, and then it goes without saying, please enjoy responsibly. - Wait, where are we going? - Who cares? - Ride. - There comes a time in every white man's life, where he must look in the mirror at himself and think I have this idea, but I'm not going to get a patent on it. I really think more white men should think about it and just say, maybe it's not for me. I recently had the idea of like, I loved these pants and I couldn't find them anywhere and I was like, should I make them? And then I looked in the mirror and I thought, fuck no, there are so many pants on earth. I don't need to contribute more pants. - You know what I'm gonna ask you to talk about. - What? - The (beep) - I literally can't. I literally can't. - I, oh my God, a fuck. That's a problem with this podcast. We have to go out in the world and like, people know. - Yeah, I wish I could tell my kids everything. If you catch us in an airport. - Oh, what's the things I've revealed on stage at standup? - It's incredible. - Yeah. - A flight attendant on Delta recently was like, ask me a bunch of questions. I just went off. - I'll tell you anything. - I said to Tate, start from the top. What do you want? - Person to person? - What do you want to know? - Person to person, which is also the series finale. The name of the series finale of Mad Men. - Person to person? - Person to person, I'll reveal all. - Yeah, I was like giving like full script secrets from over-compensating season two to people. I'm like, well, if at least I don't know where to find ya. - Yeah, and this should be in disguise. - Well, of course, spreading the good news. But I just think maybe there are too many businesses that exist and I'm not talking about local artisans, mom and pop shops. I love all of those. I'm talking more just like specifically this type of tech, broy, startup, kind of thing that just we didn't need. You know what I mean? - I overheard someone say that it was like, why don't we put the stock price in the deck? What do you think? I think we should just like, we should. And I was just like, I'm hearing this on the phone. It's like, I'm on my way. Where's they even going this morning? I literally don't remember where I went this morning. - Where? - I went to get a haircut. And I was just hearing him talking and I was like, I hope your business is helping reduce carbon emissions or something, but it's probably not. - No, it's not. I'm sure it's making more. - I know we have way too many businesses 'cause as I've stated before on the subway, they advertise beat, beat business to business. Like they're advertising like HR platforms on the subway. It's like, there should not be enough people that would need that on the subway. You should not feel like that's useful marketing. That should be in like a newsletter for like merchants. - But there are for merchants exactly. Here's the thing. I just think like, I ride for this because it is a choice. We all have to realize that. And I'm not saying like everybody's business is bad. Like I, I, a lot of them, I'm like, hell yeah. That's, I guess I'm not- - Summertime necessary. - Summertime necessary and summertime fabulous. I just think, think about it, it really is needed. - If we needed, or if your expertise could be used on something that we already have that could improve. - Like Benny drama's pleaded pant. I don't know if we need that business, but maybe some of you, I mean, I'm looking at Paul right now and he's kind of like shit. I'd preorder. - Well, we're not saying either that we would never do a collab in the future, but I think starting a business my thing when I get into thinking about it, even with merch, which I'm launching tour merch. And I'm like, I just don't want to be creating waste. And I think like- - You're so Corella when merch samples come in. You're like, hack it in the middle. Try not to sleep. The next two wide. I need to do it. - I need to do it. - Yeah, those peppers. - That bullshit, Nanny. She gave those puppies away. - House manager. - Which? - Which? - Who's the house manager? But I just think as your footprint grows, you know, as an entity, I think you will be probably approached to like launch a skincare, launch makeup, or launch this stuff. I'm like, I would love to stay- - I would just skincare with someone. - I want to stay. - Yeah. - And I like it. - I would amplify also people. It's like, I'm a writer, actor, community, and mostly hyphenate. Like, that's why I do. Like, that's me. Like, that's what I do. That's my link. So if it was something skincare, I would do like, a collab with some of them. I would never start my own. I don't have, I'm like, no, no, no. Leave it to the professionals. It's like makeup brands. I'm like, leave it to the makeup artist. - Well, so much of that stuff is like white label. And so they're just, it's the same stuff you could buy from other brands. It just has their name on it. - It's bullshit. - Well, I wanted to find this quote about, and I've already talked about, my Elise Harris talking about why she didn't start a business. And she's just like, it's just, I'm not passionate about these things. Like, I just find it hard to believe that everyone that's launched a makeup brand. It's because they're like super passionate about like, filling a space in the market that's not currently being served. Because what you're doing is like, maybe you're creating jobs, but like you're also creating so much waste. - I know. And it's like, yeah, I think that's my one, that's one tricky part of this. It's caveat. It's like, obviously I want jobs. I want, I want people to be able to afford their lives and their wants and needs. But yeah, it's just, I guess it's specifically straight white men coming up with some bullshit. I don't need your, I don't need your bullshit. - Hey, we have enough of it. We've gotten enough of it. - The world was literally built and made for you. I know you can find a job elsewhere. Please, or live off your parents' money. - But I guess if it does consume their days so that they don't hit you, I'm like, maybe I want them to work on the deck. It's just hard. I guess you're finding me, I'm trying to find the impossible here. - Life's a give and take. - But I just, I ride that. I can look in the mirror and know that like, it's just not for me. I'm not starting a business. - You are not gonna be putting together financial assessments of anything. - Nah. - Or approving them. - No, it's not looking good. - I think it's big of you. It's hubris. - You think so? - I think it's hubris. - It's crazy to have a last name, Skinner and not do anything in the skincare industry. - But I think like, you found what you want to do when you're doing it. - Yeah, production companies don't count. I already asked. - And of course, of course. Production companies, that's like different. I mean, we're being creative and like we're telling story tellers. - Yeah, exactly. And that's my job. I'm like, I, it's like leave it to the pros in my good sense. And let them shine. That too. - I find it odd too when I'm thinking like, some of these people that are starting companies and like, but do you use the product? - Well, I'm just like, if you're truly passionate about it, you can feel that. But like some people, I'm just like, oh, you just came, like you just thought of a product and then found like a random manufacturer. And now it's like, yeah. There was this one dancer who dances for the Moulin Rouge while I'm s**t with on TikTok. And she has this company that's like, it's essentially like a some kind of like cool down or like warm up garment. It's kind of like big overalls that you would like wear. And so I'm like, that is like specific. There's something about that that feels, oh no, when they come from women, I love it. - You know what is the need? I think that I have heard is not being filled is underwear for trans people. - Oh, yeah. - Like specific to trans people's needs. And so I would say if there's someone that is really passionate about that that wants to actually solve a problem that we have currently. - Yeah, in the market, in the market, in the market. - In the market, yeah. - In the market, in the market, yeah. - A guy with the white t-shirt needed a little refresh. (laughing) - No, it fucking dead in. - Hey, you found your sparkle. - I did. - You found your sparkle again. - Really? - Yeah, I just saw it. - That's so crazy. - Yeah, I just got chills. - I just watched it. - But you know what I mean? The white t-shirt never really sat well with me. I'm like, oh, yeah, it didn't. It's that. It's like tank top brands. It's like, God, it's just fucking crazy. And like, oh my God, a company that I'm like, Hell yeah, it's the one saving face. There's a practitioner. She started it because she couldn't find this thing in the market. That's so beautiful. Women, I want more women companies. I don't need anymore. - More women and more LGBTQ owned properties. - 1,000%. I would love that. I want to stone everything. (laughing) - Rich texted us because his friend has a apartment in Toronto. - This is, I'm gonna quote myself here. - Okay, here's the thing. This thing happens sometimes where someone, I'm in a thread with Mary Beth. And I'm just, I am waiting. I'm just sitting there looking at the bubbles waiting for my girl to drop a bomb. Like, I know she's, I'm like, I know she's burculating. She just got to her laptop. - I was getting my hair done. I had to pee and the nose ready to tap it. - This is a perfect response go. You have to say it. It's so fucking good. (laughing) - All the actors know where we're living in Toronto. We already know. At least I do. - Yeah, I do. - He sends this link, which is a beautiful apartment. And he was like, yeah, I just thought I'd offer it to all you guys just to help my friend out. I said, yes, spread the word. I also own many properties in major cities. It's a hassle. - It's like, oh, it's a whole regular role, sucks. - I'm sorry, like, it's such a pain. And that's what they don't tell you about. It's something about straight guys they just have stuff like that where they're like I have this apartment in Toronto I got a rent out. 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Paris Hilton's infinite icon of visual memoir playing only in theaters January 30th get your tickets now. Speaking of shutting down group chats. Mm-hmm. Sort of gets into what I ride for. Yeah. So I ride for having the last word. I was doing a lot of reflecting. I think I do as well. I think if I do another comedy special, God willing, knock on wood. I would call it the last or I guess maybe my last special would be called the last word. So maybe the next one who knows. I'm not sure. Such a good point. Such a good point. So I was trying to figure out why I like to bring up people's comments on the podcast and and speak to them and respond to them. And I think it's because I really like having the last word. Yeah. And it just feels like if I bring it up on here and we could speak directly to it to like the most number of people. Then that's me like saying well that's the period at the end of that interaction. Yeah, of course. My aunt, my aunt Vicki. She used to live in upstate Connecticut and sometimes she would have to do business in Stanford, which is where I grew up. And so I had a room with two beds, obviously, because I was a princess, but not in the way that like everyone thinks. You know what princess doesn't always have to be bad. No, it doesn't. I had a princess bed. And then I had a queen size bed. Yeah. And so when my aunt Vicki would come to do business in Stanford. We interesting princess and queen. I just thought of that. You understand that I just that's really cool. Something very like. Yeah. So when she would come and stay at our house, she would stay in my room in the bigger bed. And we would talk at night, you know, a little pillow talk. It was so fun. And she taught me what the last word was because sometimes you're having a sleepover or someone. And you're like, okay, I'm I actually like kind of legally need to go to bed now. You just say last word. You see immediately in my body, I go. Midnight. You have to respect the sanctity of last word. Yeah, I guess. So I think and, you know, that concept is so powerful to me. It's just like having a last word. That's the end of conversation. End of story. And I do think that maybe contributes to loving this. Maybe contributes to that mentality of like I like being a standup. I like saying what I want to say and how I feel and these things that I feel I really need to say. And the response is like it's laughing. It's not like you can't argue. This is so fabulous. Sometimes I feel like I've gone maybe. I think I'm more on the last word than it used to be. I used to not really say anything. But now I'm kind of like, no, I've watched you actually really. What do you think? I just see the way you move in business lately. And I just think it's like what we're going to do it this way. Yeah, less apologetic. I think I think it's something of, you know, again, I've been trying to adapt this straight mail mentality where they're just kind of like, you know, this is it. And I'm like, I don't think you'd question this room as much if we were straight to. I said no to two things this year already. That's amazing. Like someone tried to move a meeting and when they wanted to move it to, I just I couldn't do it. And instead of bending over backwards and like doing gymnastics to try to make it work, I was just like, I actually have to keep the original time. I'm so sorry. And I'm finding that like people don't really, they're like, oh, yeah. Okay. Like I don't know. There's something about it where I just like I always think. And I think this is common with like queer people and women. I hope at least I think it's like just feeling like we're always in trouble. Like we'll always be in trouble or that someone will like replace us or get rid of us in like a day. Yeah. Which they might, but at the same time, it's like no. So I think we can employ this more. And obviously I love it back and forth in a group chat. I just that one was funny because it was like it was like really lit up for a few minutes. And then I was just like, yeah, I'm going to say this and good luck responding. No, I'm sorry. I just like I think I heard of it. I was just like, you know, I'm like, that's kind of it on that. But like it was great catching up with all you see really soon. Something about it too that I think feisty. I think it's Gemini mentality. It's Gemini mentality. It's a little scorpion mentality too though. It's a little bit like, but I think it doesn't always have to be bad. It's just kind of like maybe you didn't think I would respond, but I'm going to. No, I don't think it might have a negative connotation. But I don't see it as a negative at all. I also feel it as there's a spirit to it, but it's not like if someone then responded you wouldn't it's like almost it's like your own last word. And oh, if there was a response, honey, I could go all day. Okay, so not that it is like you will get the last word. And can I say something when I don't get the last word? Think about why that might be. Let that hang in the air. I agree. Because my other thing is that I'm extremely empathetic and group chats as I've talked about before in the podcast. I don't like to leave people hanging. So I like to respond and make people feel seen and heard and all that stuff. So if I'm actually not saying anything, what does that tell you? My thing that I really want to say every now and then I get like what I want to write as a caption. That's my little treat to myself and writing the show. I'm like, oh my god, I have a caption. I'm going to say I finished writing overcompensating if I didn't text you back the last few months, take it personally. Absolutely. Please make sure you make me feel as I had so much time. Please make me feel as bad about it as humanly possible and like try to cut me out of your life because of it. You are the victim in this. You are a victim. You are valid and have a nice life, I guess. You don't even want my last word. I'm too tired. But yeah, I think this is fabulous. I think it's sexy too. Yeah. There's something very sexy. I don't know if I do it as much as you, but you're an inspiration to all us gay guys. How's the last word? See how it feels? Yeah. I think there's a few things coming up that I'll have the last word on. I think so too. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's really cool with what we do as we've talked about. I know I feel like I keep saying we've talked about it before. I do forget most of the things we say on the podcast. When I remember we've repeated ourselves, I'm like, oh, I hope they're not bored. But in what we do for work, which is like storytelling, we can take things that have actually happened to us and fictionalize them in any way that we want. to. I didn't, in many ways, unless they made sort of a response project, a project in reaction to. That's the less word on that. I was kind of saying like overcompensating is season two does have a lot of my last words on, on plenty of things. And I'm kind of like, that's the statement. That's what I was saying. Thank you. It's a movie, but maybe it's not. Maybe it's more. No, you know, what I love and I actually want a record. So I really want to get on the record. We're not on the record enough. I agree. Get me on there. I don't get on there. 200 hours on the record. Yeah. No, it's like it's too much. In fact, we have to stop recording. I will say season two is like so kind of like not my life in a way, which I'm, it has been so fun to write. Like I think season one had, as far as my coming out, it has like a lot of parallels of me coming out, but everything else in it is so. It's like, it's fantastical. It's fantastical. It's magical realism. Yeah. Yeah. Which is really fun. I don't know. That's, because I've been asked that a couple of times. And I'm like, no, it's, it really isn't sticky. But you know what I say? Let them talk. Of course. I love hearing this. And my girl have last word just way. You know what you are, Benny? Hmm. A ****. Your words not mine. Babe, you're my ride or die? Ride or die? I ride for making the decision to know it's sort of business. Yeah. It's a decision that we are actively making every single day. So is Paul. Paul, do you have a business? What is it? Oh, that's not that. That doesn't count. I'm talking about selling. If you have a skill, that's not that doesn't count. Yeah. If you, if you're a skilled worker, that's completely different as well. So completely different. I'm talking like you are selling me belts. You're selling me belts, but the cow hide was like from don't sell me on it. Okay. Okay. Stop. Stop. This might be the launch. Belts by drama. I couldn't find a good belt. You have always said that. I can't find it. I don't keep my pants up. I can't find a good belt. You can't. We have to buy bigger pants because of that. Don't. I know. I know. It's like crazy. I have this waist. There's some baseball player that's like, they call him the dumper or something. He's got a wagon like me. Yeah, but I can't remember his name. I'm obsessed calling it a wagon. Yeah, me too. Yeah. I said it's my brother in law. I said to my brother in law, because my brother in law is kind of got a wagon on him too. And I kept saying it over Christmas. And we, we had a lot of fun laughing about it. It was really good. Merry Christmas, by the way. Not just me think of this for some reason, which is that we are trying to see how bad we can look on the podcast. We've reached new depth this season. I think season four, we do full glam every episode. I'm not kidding. I like glam tea. I'm glam team. I'm pulling for everything. But we need to do two out of time. If we do that. Done. That's the DC. I think it should be like our glamour post season. Yeah. This is like it's very strapped. Although today, because of the tan, I think like I can I say something Paul, do I look handsome maybe? Yeah. Okay. The way this tank top sits and then I'm wearing a shirt over it. It makes me look more flat-chested than ever. It's like kind of crazy. It's actually just doing so much to like it's like almost like a binder. You know, it's like binding. What's not even there? Pretty fabulous. And that's the same when I'm making today. Oh, Tana. Whoa. Whoa. Sorry. Oh, sorry. I don't feel comfortable doing that. Do you ride for having the last word? I ride for having the last word. I don't get it often, but when I do, I love it. Me more. And I will say, I love watching you get the last word because I don't think women get it enough. And I get a witness. Well, would you paint my witness? Looking for a witness. And all this. And I know the person that gave me the shirt and Tana did not think it was going to be featured in not one, but two episodes of the part. I know I was thinking I don't think I've worn this shirt before, but I might have done the Camo one recently. There's just yeah, speaking of how just but ugly we look. And I would say about three episodes. It's the one that came out recently in my head. I actually took a clip down that I had posted. Yeah. Can you make sure to not post them anywhere near where all see them? Because I just don't need to see that. Yeah, I go into hibernation mode in the writer's room, but I'm starting to close out being an actor again. Also, we can't do glam every time we record. We are just we're human. We're human. I know my skin is a lot of makeup. We can't do glam every time we record until season four. Until season four, which we cannot wait for one more episode. We love you so much. I know it's going to be tough, but there's so many. There's so much content us of us out there. Watch over a compensating again. Start from the top. Watch the fan cams. We we've layered. We know how right ends from the first episode. So just very much like JK Rowling turf, but if you start it, you'll know. Also, can I just say I find so many new things. Baroney HQ is doing such an amazing job at keeping our girls engaged and gorge and in love and in love. And I would say if you want some really quality content on TikTok at overcompensating FR, they do ride the pot out of context. They're posting fan cams from overcompensating. They're posting about the merch. I love the work they're doing over there. So thank you so much to all the people out there who are helping enhance this community. I love you so goddamn much. Let's take you to camera. We love you so much. We love you. One, two, three. We love you so goddamn much. And when we're off, like when we have the hiatus from the show, just like let us know how we can support you because we're going to be doing other stuff. We still have time for the fans. We have a special to tape. I'll just be there. I'm producing. I'll just be there. And we have such a fun season of television to shoot. I cannot wait for you to see it. I love the script so much. Daddy's working real hard. Oh, my accent. Anything. Eyes on the road. There you go. Right. Right. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The hosts share personal anecdotes about their dream fashion purchases, including a Louis Vuitton bag, vintage Prada and Dior pieces, and a desire to own a Beyoncé-era dress, highlighting their obsession with curated, meaningful items.
  2. They discuss the origin of their humor and performative nature, linking it to childhood experiences and birth order, with both acknowledging that sibling rivalry and a need for protection shaped their personalities.
  3. A central theme is the value of having the "last word" in conversations, which the hosts see as empowering, especially for queer and women-led voices, and as a form of self-assertion, independence, and boundary-setting in both personal and professional life.

Summary:

The podcast features a heartfelt and humorous exchange between the hosts, Benito Skinner and Mary Beth Rohn, as they reflect on personal experiences, dreams, and identity. They share intimate details about their fashion obsessions—like a coveted Louis Vuitton bag and vintage clothing—revealing a deep appreciation for rare, symbolic items. The conversation delves into their personal development, tracing their humor and performative nature back to early life, especially their relationship with siblings and the need for emotional protection.

A major theme is the power of having the "last word" in conversations, which they see as an act of empowerment, authenticity, and self-assertion—particularly for marginalized voices. The hosts also discuss their stance on starting businesses, rejecting the idea of unnecessary commercial ventures and favoring collaboration over creation, especially in spaces like skincare and women-owned brands. They emphasize the importance of addressing real needs, like trans-friendly underwear, while criticizing excess in startup culture.

The episode is laced with playful banter, personal nostalgia, and political awareness, including calls for voter engagement and a critique of over-commercialization. It closes with a celebration of community, fan engagement, and the joy of creative storytelling, while highlighting the hosts' commitment to authenticity, humor, and self-expression. The conversation ends on a note of empowerment, with both affirming that their unique voices and choices—like refusing to start a business or owning their last word—reflect a deeply personal and intentional life philosophy.

FAQs

One of their dream purchases is the Louis Vuitton Maricame Multicolor white speedy bag, which they called a 'grail'. They also mention loving vintage items like a Prada shirt with Cleopatra imagery and a Dior jacket from the Jack Kerouac collection.

Yes, both have collected things as kids, including Harry Potter Legos, Beanie Babies, and Pokemon items. One specifically mentions having a McDonald's toy collection and a CD from a music era.

They both mention loving 11 a.m. for its balance of productivity and leisure—after a morning workout, they enjoy coffee and laptop time, sometimes leading to shopping or writing.

They argue that youth is perfect and full of potential, and that age brings wisdom, not just decline. They emphasize that having fun and staying present at 32 is valuable and empowering.

They believe that as time passes, grief intensifies because memories grow more vivid and the absence becomes more felt—leading to guilt and emotional pain rather than healing.

They encourage being shameless in honest communication, keeping hope, and staying politically engaged. They recommend voting and supporting policies that protect vulnerable people.

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