The Kenny G Episode

Kenny G, that was great, Chuck. Sorry. You might not know this, but he's a very large investor in Starbucks. We'll get into it soon. Kenny G, your parents made love to thee. Can I tell you guys something? What? Popcorn Chicken's back at KFC. Yep. Chuck, are you telling me Popcorn Chicken's back at KFC? I just said it. You know what? Don't you feel good telling people that? It's back, and I wouldn't even say. Better than ever? It's better than ever. I'm going straight for KFC sauce. I'm old-fashioned. I love the tender. You really do? But I'm thrilled Popcorn Chicken from KFC is back. Guys, put it away. Wait. No, trust me. Put it away. Let's talk about our guests. We're going to talk about our guests today, because I've never been, I know I might say I've never been more excited, but we'll start with that. Well, his name is Kenny. I watched this documentary. I knew nothing about it. Let me finish. I watched the documentary. I've never felt like anyone reminded me of myself in my whole life until I watched this documentary. I was like, that guy is exactly like. I think Kenny's here. Is his hair still good? Unbelievable. Still. He still has got good hair? Tell me in a second. He still has good hair? All right. How are you? Oh, my God. He's still got great hair. The first jazz. The sex symbol. That's a great word. You've pulled the Kenny G card and been like, this is Kenny G. You've got to get it wet. That's not what the G stands for. Okay. Now we're friends. That's how I am. You practice three hours every day? Every day. You've been naked playing the saxophone before? Not sure about that. I just want to see you blow that horn. I used to hear you on a station. There was a station that I grew up. Where'd you grow up? In Virginia. Oh. And it used to go, it used to go, smooth jazz. It was 105. And then they always play, and they always had a, it was a voiceover of you. And it was like, hey, I'm Kenny G, and you're listening to smooth, or whatever. I'm sure I did that. Yeah, I know. It was his voice. Let me ask a question. True or false, that smooth jazz station doesn't exist without Kenny G? It probably didn't come to exist without my music. That just kind of started things off. Yeah. Look, I'm not saying I. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But my music was there. But it was really after. My song got popular that that started. So, you know. It wasn't as big of a genre. There was no genre. No. How did your first song get so big? Like, how did it happen? Well, it's a long story. I would love to hear it. Not the full version, but like maybe the minute version. The minute version is, so I was playing sax with this guy that had a record deal. His name was Jeff Lorber, a really good piano player, keyboard player. He had a record deal with. Clive Davis. So you know the name Clive Davis. Oh yeah, I know Clive. Well, I don't know him, but. So I got the gig with him and I played with him for like five years. And during those five years, we would go to New York and play the jazz clubs. And Clive would come to watch his artist, Jeff. And while he watched his artist, he saw me. And after like five years, Clive comes up to me and he says, Kenny, I think there's a market for your music. Let's do. Would you like to do your own solo records? And I thought, of course I would. Yeah. Did you ever think. Yeah. If someone was going to ask you, like, have that. And you would never have even had the boldness. No, I would have had it. To make a solo instrument. Oh yeah, I would have had it. But I wasn't like chomping for it. I wasn't. At that moment. I wasn't lobbying for it. You guys should see the footage of this man when he was. Well, I've seen the documentary. I love the documentary. That was really athletic. Let me tell you. I know a lot of what you're saying. I really fit. I saw the documentary. It was on HBO. Yeah. Yeah. So good. Really good documentary. And I loved it. But the reason I loved it, it was very well done. But I loved it because I loved you so much. Oh, thanks. And I have never in my life ever seen another human being and had the thought, that guy reminds me of myself. Oh, cool. Except you. I don't know if it's cool or not. Mozart, he said. I think it's cool. I love myself, which means. I think it's very cool. Only Mozart. He doesn't see it at all. Kenny, do you see it at all yet? I do so far. Okay. Yeah, you seem like you're kind of like meticulous. That's right. And you're on point. Let's talk about the facts at hand. Do you know anything about any of us at all? Well, there's. Wow, just blind faith to do this. Kenny, let me tell you about myself. I kept looking up, looking on the email thread saying, okay, what's the name of the show I'm doing? Can I look it up and watch anything? Dave and Benny. Podcast. Well, I would agree. Tell me it's not a podcast, Kenny. So, see, I didn't even know what I'm doing. But, yeah. No, you know, we've been. Do you want me to leave now? No. Kenny, my name is Dave. This is Kristen. That's Benny. I'll start with myself because I'm the one speaking. I grew up in suburban Philadelphia. Always felt destined to be a comedian. I saw that there was this space in comedy rap that no one was really doing it. And as I did it, I learned that I'm actually a great rapper. Wow. Yeah. And so, and then I made a TV show about my life, which is kind of the telling of that story over like three seasons. You can enjoy it. It's on FX. Seriously? Yeah. Gosh. I think you'd like it. I'm going to check it out. It's a good show. I wish I would have watched it already. Then I would have been able to comment on it. No, we like that you. No, we like that you know nothing about us. Okay, Kristen, now you. This is my least favorite thing. There's really nothing to, you'll, I'm just a girl. That's not true. That's not true at all. I'm just a girl looking at a boy telling him. I'm just a newly married girl. No. That's the game that she likes to play. That's not the game. I just don't have the same bone in my body. You say, hi, I'm Kristen. I'm from Michigan. Oh, I'm from Michigan. You're from Michigan. You used to be a producer. I don't even know if you even have to say. I still am a producer. And now you have your own television show that you just sold to FX. Look, I don't have my own television show. It's in development, which is why I don't like to say that. But it's in development at FX, so we'll see if they like it. Great. Hopefully our show will do that. Well, my name's Benny. I started making music at a really young age, and I won a contest when I was like nine, and then I got signed very young. Wow. I started writing songs and producing songs for other people, and I was pretty good at it, and I wrote a very big amount of songs for people and produced them for like 10, 15 years. And then- Tell them some of the songs. I probably know these songs, wouldn't I? Like, I Kissed a Girl. Yeah. Katy Perry. Very important songs. Maybe I've seen your name on some things before. Good for you. And then I started a record label, and then a publishing company, and I started producing people's like full albums, like Ed Sheeran's whole album. And then you married- My wife is a big singer. Do I know who your wife is? Her name's Selena Gomez, and she's like a big singer, actor. Have you heard her name, Selena Gomez? I have heard her name. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's an actor. I think I've seen- Oh, you've probably seen her in Only Murders or something. You know what? Because Marty Short, I know. I have a question. Yeah. Is this also poppycock, or are you like, are you either- I've heard that word in a long time. That's a great word. Poppycock. One of the early investors or owners or something of Starbucks. That is true. What's the fact? All right, give me all the facts. How did it happen? The fact is that there was one store in the Pike Place Market in Seattle, one Starbucks store, and they just sold coffee beans. That's where it started. You could just go buy beans. Anyway, my uncle says, hey, they're trying to raise money for Starbucks coffee. I go, I don't know anything about coffee. He goes, yeah, well, I'm going to put some money in, and why don't you meet the guy that's raising the money? His name was Howard Schultz, the guy that started it. He said, well, you should meet him. He said, I bet you guys will become friends. So I met Howard, and Howard kind of gave me the whole rundown of what he was planning to do, and he's a very charismatic guy, a great guy. We became friends. Good friends for a time period. And then I said, well, who else is investing? And I looked at the names. I go, oh, my gosh. OK. I said, whatever they're doing, I'm going to do. And that's how it started. And so you were like one of the first investors? One of the first 10. Wow. Yeah. Is this like a massively important move-wise in your financial whatever you have today? Yeah. OK. Oh, yeah. Of course. But you weren't even thinking of like, you weren't like, oh, I'm going to be like a guy who's investing all the time in everything. Oh, yes, I am. Yes, I am. Oh, you were? I like, yeah, I'm always interested. He had that uncle. Oh, really? I actually do my own accounting. Oh, that is fun. I don't have a business manager. This is her dream. This is like all she wants to do is like be in a spreadsheet. The other day, I sent him this. I use chat, G-B-T, or chat. Yeah? Yeah. You were saying I always said it wrong. Yeah, normally you say G-B-T. I like it. I think it's a smoother way to say chat. I know. I think a lot of people are saying it that way. OK. So I was using it to help me understand. See, that's something that I would say. Yeah, you guys are the same man. You're reminding me, yeah. So you feel it instantly. And haven't you probably never felt that way before about anyone else you've ever seen in your life? Maybe not as much. No, I'm saying. He's agreeing with you. No, no, he's saying. I'm agreeing with you. No, he's saying he's agreeing with you. Maybe not as much about it with other people. Yeah, more you than probably anybody. I swear, if you watched a documentary of me and you were just sitting in your living room, you'd be like, you would have the same feeling I had. I saw this guy at the airport, I don't know, a few years ago, who's being a dick. And it reminded me of me. Now, I'm not a dick. But I. But I'm told I can come across that way because I'm factual and I'm just like, here's some information. And then somebody said, whoa, that came off cross-heartedly. I go, what do you mean it came off cross-heartedly? I was trying to. This is reality. I was trying to be helpful. I agree. You were just being direct. Nobody understands that. Nobody understands it. But by the way, I've learned that that's not good. Well, I do it in a really. I think I do it in this goofy, charming way. And you don't. I get away with it. I don't get away with it. I don't think I'm annoying. Well, I don't know. I don't know. Have you gotten feedback that it's too tough? It's too tough and too hard. There. No. He gives them feedback. No, no, no, no. No, not in a bad way. Texting. No, he's one of the sweetest men in the world. Yeah. I can see that. But he can. But he can. My manager. manager has the same thing. They're both very matter of fact in what they're saying, and they're both very analytical and very much factual based, so they'll say, "Well, we have to do it like this, and it's because of this, this, and this," and they're just getting the information out, and I think to some people it comes off like how you're saying, like what you're saying, but I don't think either one of them have a bad bone in their body. I prefer this way of communication, and I think that when you're direct, I think so often when you have to communicate with certain people and you have to change just because you know how they're going to like perceive it or receive it, then it's like this extra layer of work where if you could just be direct and there was no hard feelings, we'd move quicker. True, but the world doesn't work like that, I wish, so I've actually learned to be a lot softer about the way I do, and I like it better. How do you know who to be soft around and who to be direct around? I just kind of just figure it out, but my go-to. My go-to is to, instead of giving the information, my go-to is more to ask a question. Like let's say I think you're completely wrong about something, and instead of saying, "Here's why you're wrong, and I'm going to show you the right way," I'll say something like, "Okay, tell me why you think that's such a good idea." I think that's more offensive, personally, if I'm not receiving it, I'm like, "Oh, you're trying to. " No, none of you do it the way he just did it. Like if you act interested. Yeah, but I don't think you're offensive, I like the original Kenny J. Now, Kristen, you know I've always dreamt of coming to Michigan for a summer. It's all I've ever wanted to do, with you, since you guys. What are you doing?. became a thing. I think I'm coming now, and you know what's going to come with me? I might just have to pack a little friend with me, and this is a white claw peach. And what's that? A white claw mango, and what's another flavor we're bringing? Black cherry. A black cherry. This summer is a white claw summer. We're going to have fun. We're going to grab life by the claw, but we're only allowed to say one word now. Fine. Will? Yeah. When? Happen. Immediately. When? We. Open. White. Claw. Please drink responsibly. Hard seltzer with flavors. White Claw Seltzer Works. Chicago, Illinois. Cut it out, I'm going to sip it right now. Do you work out in that, or do you work out in basketball shorts or something? I was just in shorts this morning. I worked out. I woke up at 5:30 this morning. No, 5:15 this morning. Yeah. I got up a little extra early because I knew I needed to be here a certain time. You got to do your hair? No. That was the easy part. You don't do your hair? Do you just dry it and shake it around and shake it around? All right. I comb it with my fingers in the shower because you need no blow-dry. Conditioner. Yeah. That. It gets it wet. Then there's a little bit of some cream that I put in there. Defining cream. Right? Then there's the name of the company. Okay. They changed the formula and made it way worse. You can't get the old one anymore. I've gone on eBay, I've scoured the earth, and I've gotten all of the old ones that I've got like a. That's what I do. I've got like four or five of them. I do it too. I look at them like, "This is gold." Today's an important day. That's something I would do. I'm going to use a little bit of that, and then the other days I use the new crap that they got. What is the difference between the new crap and the old stuff? It really doesn't hold. It's totally different. Okay. You shouldn't email them. I have. I tried to call. I said, "Listen. Can I talk to the owner?" Hey, I will endorse your product for nothing. Kenny, you have to know how much this is. I haven't thought we were the same in the thing until right now. There's one cream that I use. I have a long list of creams I use. There's one that I use, and I heard a rumor that they were going to be going out of business. Buy it out. Buy it out, bro. You know, I have over 500 bottles of one thing, and I use them because I'm not like you. I can't do. I can't spare on the one day. I need a full lather every day, and I noticed though that I'm starting to get close to the end of the bottles. Of the 500? You're getting close? This was like 15 years ago. Oh, good for you. I probably only have like. No, that doesn't exist. I look on eBay. Anytime anyone comes up on eBay, I buy all of them. Yeah, good, good, good. I used to do it for a perfume, too. You guys should start a hair company, the three of you. Huh? Oh my God. Hey, you know what? Seriously. You want to invest in something else, Kenny? Here's what we should do. I've had this idea since the '80s. Okay. Let's hear it. Okay, L'Oreal. L'Oreal. I wouldn't say the name, L'Oreal. Yeah. You know, because I'm worth it. You know, the whole thing. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I'm going to pitch it to you. Well, whoever I'm pitching it to. Agents. Talk to L'Oreal. You're telling me no one's ever reached out to do a hair thing with you? No. You're actively pitching? Why don't the three of us together. I think it would be. Because we got all the curls. What if we did a commercial together for like a L'Oreal or maybe a Head & Shoulders? They're not going to have enough money. Whoever wants to. Whoever wants to. Three people, they divide it by three. But I'm going to start our own company, make our own commercials. Okay. Wait. Remember, Kenny. Maybe, maybe, maybe. I'm not going to say no. Remember you scoffed at me. Kenny. How often do you take on new friends? It's a slow thing for me. Slow. It should be slow. Oh, tell us about that. We're not going to be answering friends. Kenny, tell us a little bit about this. What do you mean it's slow? You take a long time to kind of befriend people? It's going to be slow. What if it's your twin? I know exactly what he's talking about. I wouldn't want the social pressure of having to like start a. Kenny, just know I would never even approach it. He's going to answer all my questions for me. It's his answer. Whatever you say, that's what he says. He said it's going to be slow. It's a slow. If I were your best friend, I would be like, "Yeah, okay." Chuck, you met me and then slept over at my house, and then you never. That's true. He's been my best friend since the first day I met him. Is that true? Yeah. How did you guys meet each other? Why would you sleep in his house on the first night? No, no. It was over a long period of time. I put my music out. He saw it. He reached out. Oh. Did you produce him as well? Yeah, he has. I do all of his music with him now, but at the time, he put out his music the first day, and I was known. He wasn't known yet. Do you use Pro Tools, or what do you guys do? Yeah. I use Pro Tools. Me too. I'm an explorer of nudging a lot. Me too. Oh my God. I produce all my own stuff and mix it, and I'm like. I love nudging. Absolutely. Nudging is everything. You know what's interesting? I've never said this out loud, and I don't even know who to talk to, but you guys will appreciate it. My whole career for the first 10 years of making music, every audio take I found would sound better with five nudges of 0.0005 to the right. Ten years ago. What would satisfy me to listen to, and probably what was probably similar, even in rap, would be that it would be nudged to the right. I believe that rap, and I know for a fact it has, it has evolved in a place where it's actually cooler to be a little bit- No, but that's not why. Do you know why their songs are always ahead of the beat? Because the MP3s that they're getting have a little gap at the beginning, and nobody is moving it exactly on beat. So when they rap on it, and then it gets transferred to the mix, it's always ahead of the beat. I don't know. That's not why. No. It's a stylistic choice at this point. No it isn't. Yes it is. The style of rapping is now early. It might be a stylistic choice. Like the Detroit type of- It might be a stylistic choice at this point, but it originated from that. I'm not sure. I only care about the present day and- No, I'm saying it originated like a year or two ago, or three years ago, like that. It's because of, everyone talks about it, Metro Boomin, all these guys talk about the same thing. Whatever. I'm listening. Sorry. The data. Don't talk to me about- So you're saying the guys that's rapping is ahead of the beat or behind the beat? Yeah. The present day, it's more and more popular to be ahead of the beat. Ahead of the beat, yeah. Or more than ever. You go back and listen to even old Drake songs, they're more nudged in the OG pocket. Of course. I'm just the opposite. I'm behind the beat. But I play it that way. I don't have to nudge it. I just know how to play it. I'm just slightly behind, because that's where it feels right to me. How often are you in the studio? Not that often. Only when I'm making a record or playing a solo for somebody. And then other than that, I don't really even want to go in. Are you inspired anymore to like- Are you ever just like, "Oh, I gotta go in the studio." Yeah, sometimes. Sometimes. And then you'll follow that- Then I'll follow that and just go that- Do you still practice at the same regimen? I practiced this morning for three hours already. Whoa. Every day. Every day still? Every single day now. Every day, three hours? Every day of the year. Every day, every year. Because you love it. Would you mind just for two seconds showing us something? What do you want to see? Wow, I can't believe you practice for three hours every day. Yeah. Yes. You love it. You love it. What do you do? Are you sitting in your underwear just on the couch practicing? Sitting in my shorts. But is it more that you believe that that's what it takes to remain as good as you are? And it's not that you love practicing it for three hours, it's more that's just unfortunately that's how long it takes for you to be this good. It's both. Both of those things. How long- If you want to stay great at something, you've got to practice it all the time. And I love it because I love practicing. Does playing still bring you just as much joy? Oh yeah. So is the recording you don't care about so much anymore? Here's why I don't love recording. You want to know why? Yeah. Tell me. I'll give you an analogy. Okay. This is what it's recording like to me. You're looking in the mirror and you go, what would happen if I just took one hair off my eyebrow? Let me try that. Hmm. Got to think about that for a while. Hmm. Now let me put it back up. Let me try this. It's just fine tuning. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I'm playing, it's like what if I did, what if I used the vibrato on the second note, the first note? So it's way too much to worry about. And I have to explore it all to know that I- Are you talking about the no stone unturned method? Exactly. That's what I live my life on. I know, bro. I know. I know. But you're saying you just don't even, that's why you don't like doing it because you don't even want to dabble in there. Because it's too much. It's grueling. And then finally, finally I'll listen to the song and I'll go, there's nothing about it that I didn't like. Fine. We're done. That's how I am. I swear on my life. That's how I am. Yeah. That's how I am. Yeah. That's how you realize there's a huge error in the- Exactly. Exactly. And then I never listen again. Yeah. I swear to God. I never listen again. I loved how he pulled out that thing at- I love it. When you say that, that's exactly the way it is. Totally. Some people, like, you know, some people, they make a record on Tuesday night. Tuesday night? How about, it's going to take a year for me to make a record. If you're producing somebody else's, to me it feels like it would be easier. You're not so meticulous. No, no, no. You're not looking at yourself. No, I'm very meticulous because at the beginning of my career, it just so happened that I started having, like, a really good batting average where, like, almost everything I did was, like. Great. How great for you. And then it became, like, a thing I was known for. Great. So then there was so much pressure. So I had to be so meticulous for years, and I had to stay number one. I had to be the youngest guy doing it, and I had to be the guy with the most number one. And it was, like, in my head. And then one day I was just like, fuck it. I don't give a shit anymore. I don't care. Great. And then I started, I'm still so meticulous. And I am on my own music. And it's just my personality. I have a lot of OCD. I pay attention to a lot of detail. Good, I can see that. I like it. I like that. No, and it's so important in anything I do. They say the best part about being friends with me is I plan every single thing for the whole year. I'm not like that. Are you like that? I have somebody that does that for me. Exactly. But I want that to happen. I want that, too. Everyone wants it. I am that person. Can we play over here so I can, I want to be able to sit down and watch. Yeah, sit on my seat. Oh, my God, I'm so excited. Do you need more water, Kenny? No, I'm good. You sure? Wow. It is so impressive. And you haven't had this in a long time. Can you believe we got Kenny G here, sax in hand, just like playing for us? This is Kenny, you know? So if he's going to have his sax in hand, I might have this peach white claw in hand because good times are happening. Just imagine Kenny. He's sitting there, sax in hand. I'm pouring this white claw in my mouth. Maybe every now and then I shift it over and pour it down Kenny's head. Kenny's going to grab the sax by the claw. I'm going to grab the white claw. I'm going to grab my life by the claw. But I just thought I should speak to you and let you know that I'm thrilled. Kenny, sax in hand, Kenny. I got to get back to Kenny. There's something about music and especially like horn instruments, watching him play it instantly. It makes me smile. I can't. And he's looking at me like that. Wow. Wow. Oh my. But no, I'm just, the reeds just, you know, with the sax, like the reed, it's got a, it takes like almost a half hour until this reed is going to be really playing good. So I'm doing the best I can. Yeah. You have to warm up it up. I mean, you got to get it wet. Yeah. I thought you sucked Kenny. I was just thinking, I was just thinking this guy really sucks. Talk to Dave about that later. You got to get it wet. Yeah. My man. All right. Just look at me one more time and blow that reed. So good. Is that some jazz stuff? Yeah. So what do I practice every day? I'll practice like a. Yeah. Show us the reggae. You know, exercises like that, you know. I don't even know what those words mean, but those aren't real words that you just said. So if you've been playing the saxophone every, what if you're sick? I don't even take a day off. What if you're sick? I don't. What do you mean if I'm sick? I don't. If I get sick, I still play the saxophone every day. I don't play the saxophone every day. I still practice. What do you mean? Well, you have a sore throat. I still practice. Oh, so it's OCD. It's OCD at this point. If you're doing it every day. Yeah. It's not OCD. He loves it. Yes, it is. I'm sorry. It's what's required to stay. How do you know? Great. You've never seen what the alternative is? I already know. You don't know? I do know. How could you know? You've never done it. Because. You don't know. It's okay. Because. I can tell you already why. Here's why. So, the sax in the mouth. Yeah. There's all these muscles. Yeah. So, they're not going to be used for a month. But then they've got to get used to being played again. Yeah. Okay? So, you're not going to be as good. I don't know. I've never done it. Have you ever burned the roof of your mouth? Like on hot pizza? Yeah. Every now and then. Does it ruin playing? It takes. It puts my attention where it shouldn't be. Here's all I'm saying. You know, like, if you make yourself uncomfortable, when you get uncomfortable, then you still can function. Yeah. A lot of people can't function. They get too nervous. They get uncomfortable. The pressure. And it's like. Yeah. They're like, "Oh, I didn't practice this room, but as soon as I walked on stage, oh. " Like. Yeah. You have to know that you can handle the pressure. Then simulate that in there. Yeah. And I am so supportive of that, and I think that's the only way to be. I totally. Like, I am a product of, like, the 10,000-hour rule, like, I work my ass off, et cetera. My only point is, you don't know if you took one day off, maybe it wouldn't affect you at all. Two days, maybe. You've never tested the limits of. Not going to. And the reason you're not going to is just OCD, which I understand. I have the same. I have OCD. I understand. Yeah. I don't know, man. I can't. I can't just agree with you. What are the facts at hand? You've never. You don't know. You just don't know. There's no world. First off. That's right. A month, I could see, like, yeah, most likely you're going to be. Maybe it takes two hours to get it back. Are you saying that I would be the only human being on Earth that could not work at something and be just as good by not working on it more meticulously? Not at all, Kenny. I think you should be working your ass off. Then you've just proven my point. No. It's not an all-or-nothing thing. Like, you don't have to work every single day, seven days a week. No matter. Like. Yes. Yes. I understand why you've had such great success. And I, too, would have OCD and be absolutely married to the technique that got me there. All I'm saying is, for someone. And I'm just. I suffer from the same shit, but the no stone unturned method would have you find out your own limits. And I know that your limits are going to change. But you might find that those extra three hours, you're going to have more. And maybe not. And maybe. That's not a bad argument. You're making a good argument. I will give you that. But do you feel like it's impacting your life at all? I feel like it's worked really well for. Like. Maybe. But you're an optimizer. And maybe you are doing the optimized thing. And maybe this three hours, you are going to be the happiest playing the saxophone. You just have to learn that. Those are. Those are very good arguments. I cannot. I can't argue with your arguments. Thank you. Yeah. Maybe I. He's just not going to test it. I could be. I could be just scared to try it because I. I don't want to lose my skill. KFC. Mmm. Popcorn Chicken is back. Did you know? I'm. Well, I. I know now. But I kind of knew because it's in front of me. But I am very excited about it. Fuck. That is fun. I. It's a fun thing to do. Sometimes I watch a TV show and I get Popcorn Chicken, I just eat and I eat it like it's popcorn. I'm just watching the show. And then I realize I've eaten like 36 popcorn. Ow. Ow. I hope the camera just caught me. Ow. touching it in my mouth perfectly. Get Popcorn Chicken while you can at KFC in the $10 bucket. I like that one. Do you think you're the best in the world at the bat? I think. I think I'm one of. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of. Boy, there's a lot of great sax players. Yeah. You ever gotten jealous when you've been in front of a sax player? Never get jealous. Do you like sports? Like big. Are you a big sports fan? I'm not a big sports watcher. No. Except I used to watch golf a lot. What do you do for fun? I watch movies and I like to organize stuff. Like I. I like. I love being home. That's my favorite thing to do. and tweaking my stuff. I love it. You know that's. You know what I was doing this morning? I'll be back in one second. I was reorganizing. Yeah? I was reorganizing all my books in this one shelf because they were. Great. Did you love that? Did you love that time? I'm an ultimate organizer. My kitchen. Great. if you open up my refrigerator, it's like your wet dream. You take. Okay, look. Take a picture of the. I will. of your refrigerator inside. I'll send it to you. Send it to me. Oh, you keep your refrigerator very clean? No, but I want to. I always want. I always love it when I see that and then I plan on it and I start it, like kind of start it, and then it just doesn't stay that way. Mine's perfect at all times. It's perfect at all times. Everything in my house, you would love it. I'm so obsessed with just like order and like really good organization and little boxes where things go in and. I have a lot of stuff around my house that's kind of like. Yeah, I don't like clutter. What's your style? Like, what's your home style? Like, decor? Do you care about home decor? Oh, yeah, he does. Well, we don't know. We didn't see. I saw his documentary. I saw his beautiful home. Oh, yeah. Whenever you have that, it's beautiful. He likes stone. Do you like stone? I like stone enough. You laughed after you asked the question. You like stone. 'Cause when I watched your documentary, I thought, "He likes stone." But the look of the white with the dark roof and the floor and all that stuff. Yeah. Have you ever seduced a woman with the sax? Yes. Have you ever been in a bedroom? Yeah. Yeah. As like a little kink? Yeah. Of course. I'm not sure about that. Probably. You haven't? I'm not sure. No, in shorts. Shorts. I'm sure if I was naked when I was playing it, but I was. Yeah. I've done that before. There's been a part where before the deed is happening, there's been a saxophone that has led to the deed. Yes. Yeah. Of course. Do you have a saxophone right next to your bed? No. Oh. No. When I'm done practicing in the morning, it's like I. You put it away? I'm done. I'm done. How long can you hold your breath for? Well, I can hold a note for a long time, 'cause I can breathe at the same time. So, I can sustain a note for like. You're talking about circular breathing? Yeah. Like circular breathing. I can do it for a half hour. What's circular? What is that? What is that? You might be holding a note, right? I'll show you. You might be holding a note for a few hours. Yeah. You don't have time in your show for all that, but. But is that something that you worked for, or you have naturally. No, I worked on it. The three hours of practice. Okay. Give us a long note. - For some people who are born with the inability, no question, no amount of work will ever let them have the circular breathing. - That's no, no, anybody can do it if they train themselves correctly. - Are you just-- - Or maybe they just don't have the-- - The mindset. - Coordination. - Oh. - Are you breathing out and in at the, how do you, what's circular breathing? - Well, breathing out is through the sax. - And then you're breathing in through your nose. - Yeah. - He's never breathing, he's not breathing. That's crazy. Do you know what you're supposed to be listening for? - The breath. - Yeah, like he doesn't, there's no breath. - I am. - They say you can do it for an hour. - I'm not out of breath. - Are you the only person that can do that? - That's crazy. - No. - No, I'm not the only person to do that, but I'm probably, I don't want to sound like I'm egotistical, but I don't think anybody can do it better than that. - But wait, so if you weren't doing that, then I would hear the breath when playing it? - Well, I would be going like this. - No, I like the way you're doing it. - I would take a breath to then play the next thing, but I'm not, I don't have to do that 'cause I'm breathing while I'm playing. - It's amazing. - Well, anybody can train themselves to do it. - Well, yeah, I could teach you how to do it. - What would happen if she-- - I feel like I would pass out. There's something about it, even holding my breath is a little-- - I'll teach you how to blow and you don't have to come up for air, you'll love it. - Oh, yeah, I don't love head. - No, he doesn't like that. - Oh, you like me? - He doesn't like that? - No. - You do like it. - No, he doesn't like it. - I like it, she knows exactly what to do, but I am predisposed not to like head as much as most men because I actually had penis surgery as a kid. - Is that true? Is all this true? - Yeah. - I'm sorry about that. - It's okay. - I'm sorry about the jokes. - No, his whole show is based off of his fucked up dick. - Is that true? - Yeah. - I wouldn't say my whole-- - Not his whole-- - I'd say my whole personality is rooted in that trauma. - Oh, yeah. - For real? - Probably. - His name's Little Dicky. - My rap name is Little Dicky. - That's not true. - For real, for real? - Yeah, do you have a fucked up dick or a normal one? - Normal. - Oh, okay. - If you had a fucked up dick, man, I don't even know. You wouldn't be able to leave this afternoon. - Because then we spoke too much a lot. - The only other person who had his dick as fucked up as him is Hitler. - Adolf Hitler did have the same. He actually had the same. - Seriously? - He had the same disease. - He did? - It could have gone one of two ways. - I can't tell if he's kidding or not. - You're not kidding? - No. - Okay. - Do people ever say that to you? Like I can't tell if you're serious or not or no? - No. - 'Cause people always say that to me and I think that's part of my personality that I relate with you about. - Underspoke. - Hey, did you guys know that Olipop is back with brand new but retro packaging? - Hi. - Did I ever look at this? Are you out of your mind? - Look how cool this is. - I think I got the best one, of course, right? - It's very artsy. Very cool, very retro. - It's both new and old. - It makes me so happy. Buy any two cans of Olipop in stores and they'll pay you back one. - For one? - For one. - Any flavor? - Wait, wait, wait, no, no, no, no. Drink Olipop. - Yeah. - John. - Buy any two cans of Olipop in store and they'll pay you back for one. Any flavor, any retailer. Go to drinkolipop.com. - What? - Slash FKS. - Sometime sooner than later, like let's say within a month or two months, we should get together and like go out and have a dinner somewhere. - I would love that. - With wine. - We can bring our partners. - We don't push the social envelope at all. - But we will with you. - No, I won't. - No, no, we don't. I just expect you're not gonna hang out with us a lot. - I think it's almost true. - It's gonna be, we're all so busy. So it's gonna be like, hey, in two, three months, let's go to this restaurant and mark your calendar. - Let's do that. - That's how I like to do it. - That's me too. - All right, hit this putt, Kenny. Let's see how good you are. - Aren't you like a scratch girl? - I used to be. - Now, Kenny, here's the deal with this game. This is how it works. - Teach me, oh guru. - What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna shoot this shot, putt this putt. - Process of elimination. - Why don't we bet on like the first round of drinks or something? - You go first. - No. - Jackpot. - Nope. - That's a good putt. - You play golf. - Not very often anymore. I got only so good and then I couldn't get any better and then that pissed me off and then I tried to get better and I didn't get better. - Are you the best at anything else in the world except Zach's? - No. - Okay. - I don't have any idea how hard to hit this thing. - Yeah, I understand, Kenny. Looks like you hit it too hard. Oh gosh, darn it. - Oh, I see. - Looks like you suck, Kenny. - Oh, good. Oh, come on, that was in. - That was like the warmup round. Now let's play. - Whoever's the closest right now wins. Great start. - He understands. - He does. Oh, that's a good putt. That's going in. - That might go in. - Whoa, that was great. - Chuck, did you hit it light? - I don't know. I blacked out. - Oh my, yeah. - Wow, Kenny! - Yeah, it's too hard. - Oh. - Okay, so Benny's paying for the wine. - Okay. - And this is just for the glory. - Yeah, I'm paying for the wine. - Oh. - God! - Okay. - Planet's safe, huh, Kenny? - Whoa! - Good. - Sorry. - Good. - No problem. - Good, all right, you win. - Yeah, hey. - Will you guys still have to do your hair company? - Super Bowl spot. I hope we do a hair Super Bowl. - Oh, come on, Benny. You gotta get that spot. - The question is-- - I'm literally making a, that's literally why I was going on my phone. I swear on my life. - Love it. - I was already making, I'm an ideas man who put into motion immediately. - Would you say you're an idea man? - Yeah. - You know, when I was a kid, my name's David Bird, B-U-R-D, and I just typed in davidbird.com, and there was one website and there was a man, who like was an older man, and it just said David Bird, idea man. - Wow. - And I was just convinced that like, it was like me and the future, and there was an email that said like, I don't know, and I emailed the man, and I said, David Bird, like I am convinced that you might be me in the future. I'm giving this a shot. That's really the end of the story. - Oh, you never met him or anything? - No, he never responded to me. - Oh, he never responded. - I have one other question, because I know we're nearing the end of this process. Now, what happens for you now, like, when you go outside, is it still crazy? Are people coming up to you, asking for pictures all the time? - All the time. - Yeah, because you're like so recognizable. Like you're like, I thought I was the most recognizable man, because there's not that many people that look like me, but he's equally like, there's no men that look like Kenny. - Yeah, that's true. I've seen pictures of you, now that I see your face, I've seen pictures of you in-- - Being a loser. - No, no, somewhere, but just, yeah. - Your face is familiar to me. - Yes, yes, yes. - So, I've seen your face around-- - Maybe, what was it, People's Top Hot? - Honestly, Kenny, he's overexposed, if you ask me. - Oh. - Yeah. - It's not my fault. - People's 100 Hottest Men, People's-- - Yeah, you know, I actually, you want to know something so funny? I actually got voted People Magazine's Sexiest Man. - Seriously? - One year, yeah, and my favorite-- - You were number one? - Okay, guys. - My favorite-- - Let's stop the train right here. You weren't voted People Magazine's Sexiest Man. You were one of-- - No, what? - Yeah, I was one of-- - 75 people involved in the article that I think ultimately comes from a result of a good publicist and the right time in someone's career. - I'll tell you, complete-- - That's not nice at all. - You know, I'm a very acquired taste. I know that, I know that. - Physically. - Physically, yeah. Me and Dave talk about it. I'm so ugly that I popped out the other side and now-- - I don't think you're ugly. - No, no, you don't have to say that at all. - That's his quote. - Yeah, you don't have to say that at all. I made this up. I feel like I'm so ugly that I popped out the other side that I'm so ugly-- - He's saying, he's saying this level of ugginess with the level of confidence and style is so hot. - I think my features are just so crazy that it makes me hot. - I feel like when I look at you, you have a unique face. - Yeah. - And I don't think I've ever met anybody that looks like you. - No. - Yeah. - And the more that I talk to you-- - You wanna sleep with me. - You'd like to play sax for me in your shorts. - I mean, you know, I could be talked into it, I don't know. - No, no, you, I hear, I think people get better looking. - Yeah, yeah. - If you, the nicer they are, the funnier, they become much more attractive. - Yeah, I was hideous when you came in, and now I'm like, you're like, hey! - Yeah, the personality is key. - Yeah, I got so lucky. I married the most beautiful woman in the world and the nicest woman in the world. - I don't know her, I've never met her, but what I've seen when she does her things, she seems nice and funny. - Yeah, and they're best friends now, too. We're all, you know, he's my best friend, and then she, they started dating, and then it's like, she's my best girlfriend. - Yeah, and we, it's like a family affair. - It all worked perfectly. - Great. - It worked perfectly. - We love her. - Well, maybe we'll be best friends with your partner, too. - Yes! - Yeah, she's great. - It's gonna be a slow start. - Where'd you meet her? - I met her at an event like 10 years ago. - Meet and greet? - Wait, what'd you say? - Meet and greet. - Oh, meet and greet, oh, a meet and greet. No, not a meet and greet. - What did you think he said? - I thought you said something like dirty and sexual. - Yeah. - That's what I thought you said. - I thought you said meaty. - No, I said meet and greet. - Are you having fun? - Great time. - Oh, okay, cool. - Seriously. - I couldn't tell if it was fake or not. - Seriously? - Well, I couldn't tell if I could tell. - No, I can tell it's real. - I can tell it's real. - No, I'm totally real. - Okay, good. - Totally real, no, 'cause-- - Would you say it's maybe the most fun you've had in like a calendar month, independent of any family impacted events? - Yes, I would say that's true. - Wow! - Are you saying it's in the top five interviews of your life? - I would say that's true, too. - Really, in your life? - In my life. - I think it's-- - I'll tell you why. - Why? - Because this is, it's a lot of reasons. - Please, list them all. - It's all of three personalities. - Yeah. - You know, you're like my mini-- - My guy. - Yeah, you're funny and smart, and got all sorts of stuff going on. You ask really fun questions. And you're fun. And it's easy to just kind of just do things. You're also a great chatter. Yeah, we were really excited about you. We knew you were going to be fun. Oh, I'm glad you think so. Because this is my dream version. Because I don't even feel as though it's even felt like an interview. I feel like it's felt like we're just part of it. I'm thinking, like, maybe we need another two hours to get what we want out. Kenny, before you go, do I have to watch you guys do it or something? Let me ask you, do you have a chip on your shoulder as an artist? In what way? In any way. That's an interesting question. It's a really good question. Thanks. It came out of nowhere. Not to me. I love that about you. Yeah. Yeah. I would say that I have a chip on my shoulder in this way. Yeah. But it doesn't really apply these days. Because in the past, you have a record deal. A record company signs artists. Then I feel like, okay, you're not good enough to be signed, but you got signed. You got signed because why? I'm really proud of being an artist. I work my ass off to get my skill level. Okay, I get the record deal. You shouldn't have that record deal. So I get a little chip on my shoulder about too many people got signed that didn't deserve it. That's my thing. But it doesn't last long, the chip. It's just an observation? Yeah, it doesn't last long. Or you don't really carry it with you? No. Yeah. No, I don't care. I don't walk around with, I don't carry anything with me. Because you've got a lot of record deals. Anytime I get mad about something or upset, it's gone like in a minute. Really? In that way? Yeah. Do you meditate? Meditate? No. Huh. That's why I'm always. So you don't stew on things? No. Oh, so we're different in that regard. I don't stew. I don't stew. Do I stew? You don't stew. Maybe I don't stew. Maybe you do stew. Maybe I stew less than I think. You really don't stew. You've got to move forward. You never stew. There's no point in stewing. There's no point. I stew. I guess I don't stew. Do you do the opposite of stew? You're like me. You just get up and then you do, you've never stewed. No, you just stew in decision. Not once you've done it, you don't. Stewing could last for weeks. No, I mean, I'm self-aware enough to know that the stewing is never outward. It's never like because of other people, really. It's more all internal stewing. Like, oh, I said the wrong thing. I did the wrong thing. See, like, I don't know how you are, but I bet it's pretty similar to me. Like, I walk around kind of knowing, not out of arrogance, just at like an analysis of the facts at hand, like I am great and I can do it and I'm a good person and I can do a lot of great things. And like the loop of dialogue in my head is so like supportive and lifts me up to be my best version. Her inner dialogue is the opposite. Well, no, sometimes it's like that. I'm working on it. Well, but just you're more, like, his is like mine where you're not as, she's predisposed. Like, after we were done sometimes, she might be like, I feel like I said the wrong thing. Well, just like you always want to improve, I'm always trying to improve. Yeah, she's a perfectionist. Mentally. But I might say the same thing like that, that she says, maybe I shouldn't have done that or whatever, but it doesn't last long. Yeah. It's like I can't do anything about it. If I can do something about it, I'll do something about it. Yeah. But if I can't, I've got to let it go. Maybe I'll adopt that. Look at the saxophone we put on our microphone. Oh, that's so cute. That is really cute. We did that for you, Kenny. Oh, my God. That's so cute. Yeah, go take a look. Wait, can you play any other instruments? You know, I mean. One's not enough. Not that he's great at it. I play enough to, like, write songs. Like, I play my piano parts. Yeah, but not that you're not great enough at the ones that you don't play. Can you play the flute? I can play the flute. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The clarinet, too, right? I can play the clarinet, too, yeah. Because you have to learn to play the clarinet to be able to play the saxophone? No. When you're driving in the car, listening to music. Yeah. Rap? Jazz? I don't listen much to music in the car. I just keep it quiet, usually. What type of music do you listen to that's not jazz? Old jazz. I don't know. That's all I listen to. You ever listen to rap? No. Can I have your cell phone number? And I can text you? Yeah. You can have my cell phone number. Kenny, would you put in your number? We put a lot of jazz on in our house. I love, like, I love jazz. I love jazz. When we bought the house, we would just play Kenny G all the time. Put you up. All the time. Seriously? Yeah. That's so cool. We're going to put pictures of you all around the house. I wonder what song you played. We could even do, when we all hang out, we could do, like, a really long hangout. We could go to each person's house. All right. And that's a wrap on Kenny G. Thank you. Thanks, bro. That was so much fun. Yeah.