The Kenny G Episode

(upbeat music) ♪ Can you see that one's great shot ♪ ♪ Sorry ♪ ♪ You might not know this, but he's a very large investor in star bucks ♪ ♪ We'll get into it, too ♪ ♪ Can you see your parents may love to be ♪ (upbeat music) - Can I tell you guys something? - What? - Popcorn chicken's back at KFC. - Yeah. - So, are you telling me Popcorn chicken's back at KFC? - I just said it. - Hmm, I don't know what? - Don't you feel good telling people that? - It's back and I wouldn't even say. - Better than ever? - It's better than ever. - Hmm. - I'm going straight for KFC sauce. I'm old-fashioned, I love the tender. - You really do? - I'm thrilled Popcorn chicken from KFC is back. It's back. Way away. - Wait. - No, trust me. Put it away. Let's talk about our guest today because I've never been, I know I might say I've never been more excited. - Wait, I don't say that. - Well, his name is Kenny. - I watched this documentary. - I think he's nothing about only finished. I watched the documentary. I've never felt like anyone reminded me of myself in my whole life until I watched this documentary. I was like, "That guy is exactly like. " (knocking) I think Kenny's here. - Is this hair? This is still good. - I don't believe it. - He still's got good hair. - I don't know. Tell me in a second. - He still has good hair. - All right. - All right. - Oh my God. - He still got great hair. The first jazz sex symbol. - That's a great word. - Hold the Kenny G carton. Like this is Kenny G. - Gotta get wet. That's not what the G stands for. (laughing) I'm y'all okay. Go with friends. - I'll tell you. - You're gonna have to stay up to every day. - Every day? - You've been naked playing the saxophone. - Not sure about that. - I just want to see you blow that horn. (laughing) - I used to hear you on a station. There was a station that I grew up. - Where's your girl? - In Virginia. - Oh. - And it used to go. ♪ Smooth jazz ♪ ♪ One or five ♪ - And then they always, and they always had it. It was a voice over here. And it was like, "Hey, I'm Kenny G." And you're listening to "Smooth" or whatever. - I'm sure I did that. - Yeah, and then it's his voice. - Let me ask a question. True or false, that smooth jazz station doesn't exist without Kenny G. - It probably didn't come to exist without my music. That's just kind of started things off. - Yeah. - Look at, I'm not saying I-- - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But my music was there. But it was really after my song got popular that started. - But it wasn't as big of a genre. - There was no genre. How did your first song get so big? Like how did it happen? - Well, it's a long story. - I would love to hear it. Not the full version, but maybe the minute version. - The minute version is, so I was playing sax with this guy that had a record deal. His name was Jeff Lorber. A really good piano player, keyboard player. He had a record deal with Clive Davis. So you know the name Clive Davis. - Yeah, I know Clive. Well, I don't know him. - So I got the gig with him, and I played with him for like five years. And during those five years, we would go to New York and play the jazz clubs. And Clive would come to watch his artist, Jeff. And while he watch his artist, he saw me. And after like five years, Clive comes up to me and says, "Kenny, I think there's a market for your music. "Would you like to do your own solo records?" And I thought, "You of course I would." Did you ever think someone was gonna ask you, like how that, and you would never have even had the boldness. - No, I would have had it. - To make a solo instrument. - Oh yeah, I would have had it. But I wasn't like chomping for it. I wasn't at that moment. - I wasn't lobbying for it. - You guys should see the footage of this man when he was-- - Well, I've seen the documentary. I love the documentary. - I really appreciate it. - Let me tell you, I know a lot of what you're saying. - I saw the documentary. It was on HBO. - Yeah, yeah. - So good. Really good documentary. - And I loved it. But the reason I loved it was very well done. But I loved it because I loved you so much. - Okay, because I have never in my life ever seen another human being and had the thought that guy reminds me of myself. - Oh, cool. - Except you. I don't know if it's cool or not. - I think it's cool. I love myself, which means, I think it's very cool. - Only most people can see it at all. - Kenny, do you see it at all? - Yeah, I do so far. - Okay. - Yeah, you seem like you're kind of like meticulous. - That's right. - You're on point. - What about the facts at hand? - You know anything about any of us at all? - No. - Wow, just blind faith. - Okay. - You do this. Let me tell you about myself. - I kept looking up, looking on the email Thred saying, "Okay, what's the name of the show I'm doing?" Can I look it up and watch anything? Dave and Benny, podcast. - Well, tell me. - It's not a podcast, Kenny. So, see, I didn't even know what I'm doing. - But, yeah. - No, you know, we've been. - Can we leave now? - Yeah. - Kenny, my name is Dave. This is Kristen. That's Benny. - I'll start with myself because I'm the one speaking. I grew up in suburban Philadelphia. Always felt destined to be a comedian. Yeah. I saw that there was the space and the comedy rap that no one was really doing it. And as I did it, I learned that I'm actually the great rapper. - Well, yeah. And then I made a TV show about my life, which is kind of the telling of that story over like three seasons. You can enjoy this on FX. - Seriously? - Yeah. Gosh, I think you'd like it. I'm gonna check it out. - It's a good show. - I'm sure we'd have watched it already then. I would have been able to comment. - No, we like that. - No, we like that. You know nothing about this. Okay, Kristen. Now you-- - This is my least favorite thing. And there's really nothing to you. I'm just a girl. - That's not true. - That's not true. - But just a girl looking at a boy telling him-- - I'm just a newly married girl. - No. - That's the game that she likes to play. - That's not the game. I just don't have the same, like, call it in my body. - I'm from Michigan. - I'm from Michigan. - You're from Michigan. You used to be a producer. - So I'm still a producer. - And now you have your own television show. - I don't have my own television show. It's in development, which is why I don't like to say that. But it's in development at FX. So we'll see if they like it. - Great. - Hopefully our show will do that. - Well, my name's Benny. I started making music at a really young age. And I won a contest when I was like nine. And then I got signed very young. - Wow. - I started writing songs and producing songs for other people. And I was pretty good at it. And I wrote a very big amount of songs for people and produced them for, like, 10, 15 years. - Tell them some of the songs. - I probably know these songs for a night. - I kissed a girl. - Yeah. - Very important songs. - Maybe I've seen your name on some things before. And then I started a record label. And then I started producing people's like full albums. Like Ed Sheeran's whole album. - And then you married. - My wife is a big singer. - Do I know who your wife is? - Her name is Selena Gomez. And she's like a big singer. - I've heard of Selena Gomez. - I have heard of her. - Yeah, and she's an actor. - I think I've seen her. - I think I've seen her in "Only Murderers" or something. - Do you know what? 'Cause Marty Short, I know. - I have a question. - Yeah. - Is this also poppycock? Or are you like, are you either-- - I heard that word a lot. - One of the poppycock. - Early investors or owners are something of Starbucks. - That is true. - What's the fact now? - All right, give me all the facts. - How did that happen? - The fact is that there was a one store in the Pike Place market in Seattle. One Starbucks store. And they just sold coffee beans. That's where it started. You could just go buy beans. Anyway, my uncle says, hey, they were trying to raise money for Starbucks coffee. I don't know anything about coffee. He goes, yeah, well, I'm gonna put some money in. And why don't you meet the guy that's raising the money? It was Howard Schultz. The guy that started it. He said, you should meet him. He said, I bet you guys would become friends. So I met Howard. And Howard kind of gave me the whole rundown of what he was planning to do. And he's very charismatic guy. Great guy. And we became good friends for a time period. And then I said, who's else was investing? And I looked at the names. I go, oh my god. I said, whatever they're doing, I'm gonna do. And that's how it started. - And so you were like one of the first-- - One of the first ten. - Wow. - Is this massively important move wise in your financial whatever you have today? - Oh. - Yeah. - Yeah, okay. - Well, yeah, of course. - But you weren't even thinking of like, you weren't like, oh, I'm gonna be like a guy who's investing all the time in everything. - Oh, yes, I, yes. - Oh, you were. - I like, yeah, I'm always interested. - He had that uncle. - Oh, really? - I actually do my own accounting. - Oh, that is-- - I don't have a business name. - This is her dream. - All she wants to do is be in a spreadsheet. - The other day, I sent him this, I used chat GBT or chat. - Yeah. - Yeah. - To, you were saying I always said it wrong. - Yeah, and normally you say GBT. - I think it's a smoother way to say chat. - I know, I think a lot of people are saying it that way. - GB, okay. So I was using it to help me understand. - So that's something that I would say. - Yeah, you're right, maybe. - So you feel it instantly. And haven't you probably never felt that way before about anyone else you've ever seen in your life? - Maybe not as much. - No, I'm saying. - He's agreeing with you. - No, I'm agree with you. - No, he said as much as you're saying with you. - Maybe not as much about it without me. - Yeah, more of you than that probably anyway. So if you watched a documentary of me and you were just sitting in a living room, you would have the same feeling. I saw this guy at the airport a few years ago. He was being a dick. And it reminded me of me. - No, I'm not a dick. But I'm told I can come across that way because I'm factual. And I'm just like, here's some information. And then something said, whoa, it came off cross-heart. I go, what do you mean it came across-heart? I was trying to-- - This is reality. - I agree. - And nobody understands that, but by the way, I've learned that that's not good. - Well, I do it in a really, I think I do it in this goofy, charming way. - And you don't end it. - I get away with it. I'm not going to wait with it. I don't think I'm annoying. Well, I don't know. I don't have you gotten feedback that it's too tough and too hard. - No, he gives him feedback. - No, no, no, no. Nothing about it. - He's one of the sweetest men in the world. - Yeah. - But he can. But he can. in my man. manager has the same thing, they're very like both very matter of fact and what they're saying. And they're both like very analytical and very much factual ways. So they'll say like, "Well, we have to do it like this and it's because of this and this." And they're just getting the information out. And I think to some people it comes off like how you're saying, like what you're saying. But I don't think they have, I don't think that either one of them have a bad bone in their body. I prefer this way of communication. And I think that if it, when you're direct, I think so often when you have to communicate with certain people and you have to change just because you know how they're going to like perceive it or receive it, then it's like this extra layer of work where if you could just be direct and there was no hard feelings, we would be good. But the world doesn't work like that, I wish. So I've actually learned to be a lot softer about my, the way I do. I like it better. How do you know who to be softer on and who to be direct around? I just, this branch stands at Instagram. I just kind of just figure it out. My, my go to is to instead of, instead of giving the information, my go to is more to ask a question. Like I'll say, like let's say I think you're completely wrong about something. I'm sort of saying, here's why you're wrong and I'm going to show you the right way. So that I'll say, you drag them across the world. I'll say something down. Okay, tell me why you think that's such a good idea and then I think that's more offensive personally. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm like, oh, you're, like, you're, no, you do it the way he just did it. Like if you act, but I think you're offensive, I like the original kind of you. Now, Kristen, you know, I've always dreamt of coming to Michigan not for a summer. It's all I've ever wanted to do with you since you guys became a thing. I think I'm coming now and you know what's going to come with me. I might just have to pack a little friend with me and this is a white claw peach. And what's that? A white claw mango? And what's another flavor we're bringing in? Black cherry. Black cherry. This summer is a white claw summer. We're going to have fun. We're going to grab life by the claw, but we're only allowed to say one word now. Will. Happen. Immediately. When? We. Open. White. Cloth. Please drink responsibly. Hard salsa with flavors. White class salsa works. Chicago, Illinois. Cut it out. I'm going to sip it right now. Do you work out in that? Or you work out in that? I'm talking back to basketball. Sure. I was just unsure. It's this morning. I worked out. I woke up at 5.30 this, no, 5.15 this morning. Yeah. Got a little extra early because I knew I needed to be here in a certain time. You got to do your hair. No. That was the easy part. You don't do your hair? You just dry it and shake it around and shake it. I comb it with my fingers in the shower because you need no bone. Conditioner. Conditioner. Yeah. It gets it wet. And then there's a little bit of some cream that I put in there. Defining cream, right? And then there's the name of the company. Okay. They changed the formula and made it way worse. And you can't get the old one anymore. I've gone on eBay. I've scoured the earth and I've gotten all of the old ones that I've got. That's what I have. I have like four or five of them. I do, too. There's like this. I look in like this is gold. Yeah. Well, like today's an important day. I'm going to use a little bit of that. Yeah. And then the other day's I use the new crap that they got. What is the difference between the new crap and the old stuff? It really doesn't hold. It's totally different. Okay. You shouldn't email them. I have. I tried to call. I said listen. Can I talk to the owner? Hey. I will endorse your product for nothing. Kenny, you have to wait. You have to know how much this is. I haven't thought we were the same in the thing. Until right now. There's one cream that I use. I have a long list of creams I use. And there's one that I use. And I heard a rumor that they were going to be going out of business. Buy it out, bro. I have. You know, I have over 500 bottles. It's one thing. And I use them because I'm not like you. I can't do. I can't spare on the one day. I need a full lather every day. And I notice though that I'm starting to get close to the end of the bottles. The 500? This was like 15 years ago. Oh. No, it doesn't exist. I look on eBay. Any time anyone comes up on eBay. Buy all of them. Yeah, good. Yeah, you should do it for a perfume too. You guys should start a hair company. Three of you. Oh my god. Hey, you know what? You want to be satisfied. You want to be the focus in something else. Here's what we should do. Here's what I have this idea since the 80s. Okay, okay. L'Oreal. L'Oreal. I wouldn't say the name. L'Oreal. You know, because I'm worth it. You know, the whole thing. Yeah. Okay. So I've been pitching that idea. Well, whoever I'm pitching it to. Agents. Talk to L'Oreal. You're telling me there's no one's ever reached out to do a hair thing with you? No. You're actively pitching it. Why don't the three of us together? I think it would be because we got all the curls. What if we did a commercial together for like a L'Oreal or maybe a head and shoulder? Whoever wants to. Whoever wants to. Three people. Right. Three. But I haven't started our own company. Make our own commercials. Okay. Remembers. Maybe. Remembers. Maybe. I'm not gonna say no. Okay. How often do you take on new friends? It's a slow thing for me. Slow. It should be slow. Oh, tell us about that. We're not going to be able to answer questions. It's a little bit about this one. We're going to slow. You take a long time to kind of befriend people. What are the different things? I know exactly what he's talking about. I would want the social pressure of having to like start a- Kind of. Just know I would never even approach a thing. He's gonna answer all my questions for me. Just answer. Whatever you say, that's what he's saying. It's a slow. It's a slow. Yeah. What do you do? If I met a guy and I liked him and he was like, I want to be your best friend. I would be like, yeah. Check. You met me. You met me and they slept over at my house and then you'd never- And then you- If you met my best friend, it's the first day I- Because that's your met him. Yeah. How did you guys meet each other? Why would she sleep in this house on the first night? No, no. It was over a long period of time. I put my music out. He saw- Did you produce him as well? I do. I do all of his music with them now. But at the time, he put out his music the first day. And I was known. He wasn't known yet. You do use Pro Tools or what do you guys do? I use Pro Tools. I'm an explorer of nudging a lot. Me too. Because I produce all my own stuff and mix it. Yeah. And I'm like- I love nudging. Absolutely. Nudging is everything. You know what's interesting? I've never said this out loud. But I don't even know who to talk to. But you guys appreciate it. My whole career for the first 10 years of making music. Every audio take I found would sound better with five nudges of like 0.0055 to the right. 10 years ago, what would satisfy me to listen to and probably what was probably similar, even in rap would be that it would be nudged to the right. I believe that rap and I know for a fact it has. It has evolved in a place where it's actually cooler to be a little- No, but that's not why. Do you know why their cellings are nudged to the- are always ahead of the beat? Because the MP3s that they're getting have a little gap at the beginning and nobody is moving it exactly on beat. So when they rap on it and then it gets transferred to the mix, it's always ahead of the beat. I don't know. That's not why. It's just- no, it's a stylistic choice at the point. No, it is. Yes it is. So the style of rapping is now early. Like it's- It might be a stylistic choice. It might be a stylistic choice at this point. But it originated from that. I only care about the present day and- No, I'm saying it originated like a year or two ago or three years ago like that. It's because everyone talks about it. All these guys talk about the same thing. Whatever. I'm listening. Sorry, the dad, don't talk about- So you're saying the guys that's rapping is ahead of the beat or behind the beat? Yeah, the present day, it's more and more popular to be ahead of the beat. Or more than ever. You go back and listen to even old Drake songs. They're more nudged in the- Of course. It's just the opposite. I'm behind the beat. But I play it that way. I don't have to nudge it. I just know how to play it. I'm just slightly, slightly behind because that's where it feels right to me. How often are you in the studio? Not that often. Yeah. Only when I'm making a record or playing a solo for somebody. And then other than that, I don't really even want to go in. Are you inspired anymore to like- Are you ever just like- Oh, like I got to go in the studio? Yeah, sometimes. And then you'll follow that. Then I'll follow then you're just- Do you still practice at the same regimen? I just want to practice this morning for three hours already. Every day. Every day. Every day. Every day. Every day of the year. Every day. Every year. Would you mind just for two seconds showing us something? What do you want to see? I just want to see you blow that horn. Well, I can't believe you practice for three hours every day. You practice for every day. Yeah. Yes. Every day. What do you do? Are you sitting in your underwear just on the couch practicing? Am I sure? Is it more that you believe that that's what it takes to remain as good as you are? And it's not that you love practicing it for three hours. It's more that's just, unfortunately, that's how long it takes for you to be this good. It's both. Both of those things. If you want to stay great at something, you got to practice it all the time. Yeah. Then I love it because I love practice. Just playing still bring you just as much joy. Yeah. Yeah. So it's the recording you don't care about so much anymore. Here's why I don't love recording. You don't know why? Yeah, tell me. I want to make me a analogy. Okay. This is what it's recording like to me. You look in the mirror and you go, "What would happen if I just took one hair off my brow?" Let me try that. Hmm. I've got to think about that for a while. Now I'm going to put it back up. Let me try this. It's just fine tuning. Yeah. It's like, "What if I use the vibrato on the second note on the first note?" There's way too much to work about and I have to explore it all to know that I. Are you talking about the no stone on turn method? Exactly. That's what I live my life. I know, bro. I know. But you're saying you just don't like doing it because you don't even want to doubt it. Because it's too much. It's really. And then finally I'll listen to the song and I'll go, "There's nothing about it that I didn't like. Fine. We're done." I tell I am. I swear on my life. And then any presses play after the song's release and realizes there's a huge error. Exactly. And then I never listen again. Yeah. I swear to God. I swear to God. I love how he turned out that thing out. I love it. when you say that, that's exactly the way it is. - Totally. You're just, some people, like, you know, some people, they make a record on Tuesday night. Tuesday night, how 'bout, you can take a year for me to make a record. If you're producing somebody else's, to me it feels like it'll be easier. You're not so meticulous. - No, no, you're not looking at yourself. - I'm very meticulous because at the beginning of my career, it just so happened that I started having like a really good batting average where like almost everything I did was like, - Great. - It was, how great for you? - And then it became like a thing I was known for. - Great. - So then, - For more pressure? - For more pressure. - So I had to be so meticulous for you. And I had to say number one. I had to be the youngest guy doing it. And I had to be the guy with the most number one. And it was like in my head. And then one day I was just like, fuck it. I don't give a shit anymore. I don't care. - Great. - And then I started, I'm still so meticulous. And I am on my own music. And it's just my personality. I have a lot of OCD. I pay attention to a lot of DC. And I like it. - I love it. - No, and it's so important. And anything I do, they say they're the best part about being friends with me is I plan every single thing for the whole thing. - I'm not like that. Are you like that? - I have somebody that does that for me. - But I want that. - I want that too. Everyone wants it. - I am that person. Can we play over here so I can, I want to be able to sit down and watch. - Can I sit in my seat? - Yeah, I'm just, God, I'm so excited. - Oh God. - Do you need more water, Kenny? - No, I'm good. - Sure. (triumphant music) - Oh, I guess. - That's a good one. - And you haven't had this on you. - Can you believe we got Kenny G here, Saxon Hand, just like playing for us? This is Kenny, you know? So if he's gonna have a Saxon Hand, I might have this Peach White Claw hand, because good times are happening. Just imagine Kenny sitting there, Saxon Hand. I'm pouring this White Claw on my mouth, maybe every now and then I shift it over and pour it down Kenny's head. Kenny is gonna grab the Sax by the Claw. I'm gonna grab the White Claw. I'm gonna grab my life by the Claw. But I just thought I should speak to you and let you know that I'm thrilled. Kenny, Saxon Hand Kenny. I gotta get back to Kenny. - There's something about music and especially like boring instruments. Watching and playing it instantly, it's new smile. I can't, and he's looking at me like that. Wow. - Oh my. - But now I'm just, the reed is just, you know, with the Sax, like the reed, it's gotta, it takes like almost a half hour until this reed is gonna be really playing good. So, I'm doing the best I can, yeah. - You have to warm up. - I mean, you gotta get wet. - Yeah, I thought I'm stuck, Kenny. I was just thinking. I was just thinking, I'm stuck. - Talk to Dave about that. - I gotta get it wet. - You gotta get wet. - My man. - All right, just look at me one more time and blow that reed. - So good. - Is that some jazz stuff? - Yeah. - So what do I practice every day? I'll practice like, - Yeah, show us the record. - You know, exercises like that, you know? (upbeat music) - Thank God. I'm sure your neighbors know. - What would happen if you took a month off and you went back and you did that same thing? You'd do it way sloppy? - There's not a good question. - Those words, I don't even know what those words mean. - You're down. - Those aren't real words that you just said. - So if you've been playing the saxophone every, whatever you're saying, what if you're sick? - I don't even take a day off. - What if you're sick? - I don't, what do you mean if I'm sick? If I get sick, I still practice. - When you're in sore throat. - I still practice. - Oh, it's OCD. - It's OCD at this point. If you're doing it every day. - Yeah. - You love it. - It's what's required to stay. - How do you know you've ever seen what the alternative is? - I already know. - You don't know. - I do know. - How could you know you've never done it? - Because. - You don't know. - Because I can tell you already why. Here's why. So, the sax and the mouth, so there's all these muscles. So they're not gonna be used for a month, but then they gotta get used to being played again. - Yeah, okay. So you're not gonna be as good. - I don't know, you've never done that. - You ever burned the roof of your mouth? - I know I got hot pizza. - Yeah. - Every now and then. - Does it ruin playing? - It puts my attention where it shouldn't be. - There's a lot of sand. - You know, like if you make yourself uncomfortable, when you get uncomfortable, then you still can function. - Yeah. - A lot of people can't function. They get too nervous, they get uncomfortable. And it's like, well, I was good in the practice room, but as soon as I walked on stage, oh, like. - Yeah. - Then you have to know that you've been handled. - Like that in there. - Yeah. - And I am so supportive of that. And I think that's the only way to be. I totally, like, I am a product of like the 10,000 hour rule, like I'm work my ass off, et cetera. My only point is, you don't know if you took one day off, maybe it wouldn't affect you at all. Two days, maybe you've never tested the limits of-- - In fact, going to. - And the reason you're not going to is just OCD, which I have the same, I have OCD, I understand, I just want you to admit it. - I don't know, man. I can't just to go to the facts at hand. You've never, you don't know. You just don't know. There's no world, first off. - That's right. - A month, I can see like, yeah, most likely you're gonna be, maybe it takes two hours to get it back. - Are you saying that I would be the only human being on earth that could not work at something and be just as good by not working on it more meticulously? - Then you've just proven my point. - No, it's not, it's not an or nothing thing. Like you don't have to work every single day, seven days, a week no matter, like, yes. - I understand why you've had such great success and I too would have OCD and be absolutely married to the technique that got me there. All I'm saying is for someone, and I'm just, I suffer from the same shit, but the no stone unturned method would have you find out your own limits. And I know that your limits are gonna change, but you might find that those extra three hours, you're gonna have more, and maybe not, and maybe not. - That's not a bad argument. You're making a good argument. I would give you that. - But do you feel like it's impacting your life at all? I feel like it's worked really well for it. - Maybe, but you're an optimizer, and maybe you are doing the optimizer thing, and maybe this three hours, you are gonna be the happiest playing the saxophone. You just have to learn that. - Those are very good arguments. I cannot argue with your arguments. - Thank you. - Yeah, maybe I'm just gonna test it. - I could be just scared to try it because I don't want to lose my skill. - KFC, popcorn chicken is back. Did you know? - Well, I know now, but I kind of knew 'cause it's in front of me, but I am very excited about it. - Fuck. - That is fun. It's a fun thing to do. - Sometimes I watch a TV show, and I get popcorn chicken, I just eat, and I eat it like it's popcorn. It's watching the show. And then I realize I've eaten like 36 popcorn. - Oh. - Oh. - I hope the camera just caught me touching it in my mouth perfectly. - Get popcorn chicken while you can at KFC, and the $10 bucket. - I like that one. - Do you think you're the best in the world at the bat? - I think I'm one of. - I mean, there's a lot of great sax players. - You ever gotten jealous when you've been in front of a sax player? - Never get jealous. - Do you like sports? Are you a big sports fan? - I'm not a big sports watcher, no. Except I used to watch golf a lot. - What do you do for fun? - I watch movies, and I like to organize stuff. Like I love being a thing to do. - And tweaking my stuff. I love it. - You know what I was doing this morning? - I'll be back in one one second. - I was reorganizing, I was reorganizing all my books in this one shelf because they were, - Did you love that? Did you love that time? - I'm an ultimate organizer. My kitchen, if you open up my refrigerator, it's like your wet dream. - Okay, look, take a picture of that. - Of your refrigerator, I'm gonna send it to you. - Send to me. - Oh, you keep your refrigerator very clean? - No, but I want to. - I always love it when I see that, and then I plan on it, and I start it, like kind of start it, and then it just doesn't stay that way. - Mine's perfect at all time, everything in my house. You would love it. I'm so obsessed with just like order, and like, and book really good organization, and little boxes where things go in, and-- - I have a lot of stuff around my house that's kind of like-- - Yeah, I don't like clutter. - What's your style, like what's your home style? Like decor, do you care about home decor? - Oh yeah, it does. - Well, we don't know we didn't see-- - So in the house, Dr. Menter, I saw the beautiful home. - Oh yeah, when you had that-- - You like stone. Do you like stone? - I like stone enough. (laughing) I'm in a funny crisis. You laughed after you asked the crisis. You like stone? - Because I think when I watch your documentary, it's like you like stone. - The look of the white with the dark roof and the floor and all that stuff. Have you ever seduced a woman with the sack? Have you ever been in a bedroom? Like, as like a little cane blanket? You've been naked. You've been naked playing the saxophone before. - You haven't? - No, I'm in shorts. - I'm sure if I was naked when I was playing it, but I was, you know, I've done that before. - You've, there's been a part where before the deed is happening, there's been a saxophone that's led to the deed. - Yes. - Do you have a saxophone right next to your bed? - No. - No, look, when I'm done practicing in the morning, I it's like, I'm done. - You've been doing it right? - I'm done. - How long can you hold your breath for? - Well, I can hold a note for a long time 'cause I can breathe at the same time. So I can sustain a note for like-- - You talk about circular breathing? - Yeah, like circular breathing. I can do it for half hour. - What's circular? What is that? What is that? - You might not be able to hold a note for a few hours real quick. - Yeah, you can't even have time in your show for all that, but is that something that you worked for or you have naturally worked on it? - No, I worked on it. - If there are hours of practice. - Okay, give us a long note. - But it's just, Some people who are born with the inability, no question, no amount of work will ever let them have the circular breathing. That's no. No. Anybody can do it. Okay. You train themselves correctly. Or they may just don't have the, have the, uh, the mindset. The coordination. Oh. Are you breathing out and in at this? How do you, what's circular? Well, breathing out is through the sacs. And then you're breathing in through your nose. Yeah. He's never breathing, he's not breathing. That's crazy. Do you know what you're supposed to be listening for? The breath. Yeah. Like he does, there's no breath. I'm not out of breath. Are you the only person that can do that? No. I'm not the only person that can do that, but I'm probably, what, I don't want to sound like I'm egotistical, but I don't think I, I don't think anybody can do it better than that. But wait. So if you weren't doing that, then I would hear the breath when playing it. I would be going like this. No, I like the way you're doing it. I'll be take a breath and then play the next thing, but I'm not, I don't have to do that because I'm breathing while I'm playing. It's amazing. Well, anybody can train themselves to do it. Well, yeah. I can teach you how to do it. What would happen if you-- That's what I would have thought. That's what I would have thought. Yeah. There's something about it, you know, pulling my breathes a little. I'll teach you how to blow and you don't have to come up for air. Yeah. You don't love it. Oh, yeah. I don't love hence. No, he doesn't like it. He doesn't like that. No. You do like it. I like it, yeah. She knows exactly what to do, but I am predisposed not to like head as much as most men because I actually had penis surgery as a kid and like the-- Is that true? It's all this true? Yeah. I'm sorry about that. That's all right about the jokes. No, no, no, no. His whole show is based off of his fucked up dick. Is that true? Yeah. I went to my whole-- Not his whole personality is rooted in that trauma. Oh, yeah. For real, probably. His name's Little Dickie. My rat name is Little Dickie. That's that true. Yeah, for real? Yeah, do you have a fucked up dick or a normal one? If you were a fucked up dick, man, I would-- I don't even know. You wouldn't be able to leave this after that. Because we then were so too much allowed. Yeah, yeah. The only other person who had his dick is fucked up as him is Hitler. Adolf Hitler did have the same. He actually had the same disease. Seriously? Yeah, the same disease. I can't tell if he's kidding or not. I don't know. He's not kidding. No. I'm sorry to say that to you. Like, I can't tell if you're serious or not? No. Because people always say that to me. And I think that's part of my personality that I relate with you about. I'm a spoke. Hey, did you guys know that Oli Pop is back with brand new but retro packaging? Hi. Did I ever look at this? Are you out of your mind? Look how cool this is. I think I got the best one, of course, right? It's very artsy. Very cool, very retro. It's both new and old. It makes me so happy by any two cans of Oli Pop. This is a-- By any two cans of Oli Pop in the stores. And they'll pay you back one for one. For one. Sometimes sooner than later, like, let's say within a month or two months. Yeah. We should get together and then, like, go out and have a dinner somewhere. I would love that. I wouldn't bring our partners. We don't push the social envelope at all. But we won't with you. No, I won't. No, no, we don't. We won't. No, we don't. We won't just expect. We're not going to hang out. - Oh, that's good. - Oh, that's good. - No problem. - You're good, all right? You win. - Yeah. - Well, you guys still have to do your hair company. - Superbowl spot. I hope we do a hair superbowl. - Oh, come on, daddy. You gotta get that spot. - The questioner. - I'm literally making a, that's literally why I was going on my phone. I swear my life. - Love it. - I was already made, I'm an, I'm an ideas man who put into motion immediately. - Would you say you're an idea man? - Yeah. - You know, when I was a kid, my name's David Byrd, B-U-R-D, and I just typed in David Byrd.com. And there was one website. And there was a man who was like, was an older man. And it just said, David Byrd, idea man. - Wow. - And I was just convinced that like, it was like me and the future. And there was an email that said like, I don't know, and I emailed the man. And I said, David Byrd, like, I didn't convince, you might be me in the future. I'm giving this a shot. That's really the end of the story. - Are you never met him or anything? - No, I never responded to you. - Okay, I have one. - I have one other question. Because I know we're nearing the end of this process. Now, what happens for you now? Like, when you go outside, is it still great? Are people coming up to ask him for pictures all the time? - All the time. - Yeah, because you're like so recognizable. Like, you're like, you're like, I thought I was the most recognizable man. Because there's not that many people that look like me. But he's equally like, there's no men that look like Kenny. - Yeah, it's true. - I've seen pictures of you now that I see your face. I've seen pictures of you and being a loser. - No, no, somewhere. - Yeah, and one of your faces is familiar with me. - Yes, yes, yes. So I've seen your face around. - Maybe, what was it, people's top? - Honestly, kind of, he's overexposed. If he asked me. - Oh, yeah. - 100 hottest men, people's top. - Yeah, you know what, actually, you want to know something so funny. I actually got voted. People, magazines, sexiest man. - There's one. - Yeah, and my favorite. - You were number one? - Okay, guys, my favorite. - Stop the train right here. - Uh. - You weren't voted. You were one of-- - No, wait, yeah, it was 75 people involved in the article that I think ultimately comes from a result of a good publicist and the right time in someone's career. - I'll tell you, can you please-- - That's not nice at all. - You know, I'm a very acquired taste. I know that. I know that. - Physically. - Physically, yeah. Me and Dave talk about, I'm so ugly that I popped out the other side and now-- - I don't think you're gonna say that at all. - That sounds cool. - Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I made this up. I feel like I'm so ugly that I popped out the other side that I'm so hot. I'm like, I feel like-- - He's saying, he's saying. I feel like my features are with the level of confidence. - And style. - No, I think my-- - It's so hot. - I think my features are just so crazy that it makes me hot. - I feel like when I look at you, you have a unique face. - Yeah. - I don't think I've ever met anybody that looks like you. - No, yeah. - And the more that I talk to you-- - You wanna sleep with me. (laughing) - You'd like to play sacks for me and your shorts. - I may not. - I could be talking to it. - No. (laughing) - No, you-- I think people get better looking. - Yeah, yeah. - If you-- - They're person. - They're all. - Yeah. - They're funnier. - They become much more-- - Yeah, that's the thing. - They're the only thing you came in. And now I'm like-- - Yeah, it's the person that is key. - Yeah. - I'm so lucky. I married the most beautiful woman in the world and the nicest woman in the world. - I don't know if they have never met her, but what I've seen when she does her thing-- - Yeah, yeah. - She seems-- - She's nice and funny. - Yeah, and they're best friends now. We're all, you know, he's my best friend. And then they started dating. And then it's like she's my best girlfriend. - Yeah. - And then-- - And then-- - Yeah, now it worked perfect. - Great. - It worked perfectly. - Well, maybe we'll be best friends with your partner. - Yeah. - Yeah, she's great. - It's gonna be a slow start. - Would you meet her? - I met her at an event like 10 years ago. - Meetin' great. - Wait, what'd you say? - Meetin' great. - Oh, meetin' great. - Oh, meetin' great. - What did you think he said? - I thought you said something like dirty and sexual. - Yeah, I thought you said meaty. - No, I said meetin' great. - Are you having fun? - Great time. - Oh, okay, good. - I couldn't tell if it was fake or not. - Seriously? - No, I couldn't tell if it was real. - I could tell it's real. - No, I was totally real. - Okay, good. - Totally real, no. - Would you say it's maybe the most fun you've had in like a calendar month independent of any family and past events? - I would say that's true. - You're saying it's in the top five interviews of your life? - I would say that's true, too. - Really? - In your life? - In my life. - I'll tell you why. - Why? - Because this is, it's a lot of reasons. - Please, it's all of the three personalities. - Yeah. - You know, you're like my mini. - Okay. - Yeah. You're funny and smart and got all sorts of stuff going on. You ask really fun questions. [BLANK_AUDIO] and you're and you're and you're fun and it's easy to just kind of just do think. Yeah. Yeah. You're also a great chapter. We were really excited about you. We knew you were gonna be fine. Oh, I'm glad you think so because I don't even feel as though it's even felt like an interview. I feel like I don't either. That's like cool. I don't think like maybe we we need another two hours to get what we get we want out. Kenny, before you go, do I have to watch you guys do it or something? Let me ask you. Do you have a chip on your shoulder as an artist? - In what way? - In anyway. - That's an interesting question. It's a really good question. - Thanks. - Came out of nowhere. - I love that about you. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I would say that I have a chip on my shoulder in this way. - Yeah. - So, but it doesn't really apply these days, 'cause in the past, you have a record deal. Record company signs artists. Then I feel like, okay, you're not good enough to be signed, but you got signed, you got signed because why? I'm really proud of being an artist, work my ass off to get my skill level. Okay, I get the record deal. You shouldn't have that record deal. So I get a little chip on my shoulder about too many people got signed that didn't deserve it. That's my thing. - And it doesn't last long with chip. It's just an observation. - Yeah, it doesn't matter. - Or you don't really carry it with you. - No. - No. - I don't care. I don't walk around with, I don't carry anything with me. - 'Cause you've got a lot of record deals. Anytime I get mad about something or upset, it's gone like a minute. - Really? - Do you meditate? - No. That's why I'm always like, I still want things. - No. - So that we're different in that regard. - I don't stew. - I don't stew. - Do I stew? - You don't stew. - Maybe I don't stew. - Maybe I stew less than I think. - You really don't stew. - You gotta move forward. - You don't. - You never stew. - There's no point in stewing. - I guess I don't stew. - Do you get the opposite of stew you're like me? - You just get up and then you do it. You've never stewed. No, you just stew in decision. Not once you've done it, you are. - Did you think my stewing had lasted for weeks? No, I mean, I'm self-aware enough to know that the stewing is never outward. It's never like, because of other people, really, it's more all internal stewing. Like, oh, I said the wrong thing. I did the wrong thing. - See, I don't know how you are. I bet it's pretty similar to me. Like, I walk around kind of knowing, not out of arrogance, just like an analysis of the facts at hand, like, I am great. And I'm a good person. And I can do a lot of great things. Like, the loop of dialogue in my head is so, like, supportive and lifts me up to be my best version. Her inner dialogue is the opposite. - Well, no, sometimes it's like that. I'm working on it. - Well, but just, you're more pretty, like, this is like mine, where you're not as, she's predisposed, like, after we were done sometimes, she might be like, I feel like I said the wrong thing. - Well, just like, you always want to improve, I'm always trying to improve. - Yeah, she's a perfectionist. - I might say the same thing, like that, that she says, maybe I shouldn't have done that or whatever, but it doesn't last long. - Yeah. - It's like, I can't do anything about it. If I can do something about it, I'll do something about it. - Yeah. - But if I can't, I gotta let it go. - Maybe I'll adopt that. - Look at the saxophone we put on our microphone. - Oh, that's so cute. - That is really cute. - What did that for you, Kenny? - Oh my God, that's so cute. - Yeah, go take a look. - Wait, can you play any other instruments? - You know, I mean, not that he's great at it. - I play enough to, like, write songs. - Yeah. - I play my piano parts and-- - Yeah, but not that you're not great enough at the other one, so you don't play. - Can you play the flute? - I can play the flute. - Oh yeah, yeah. - The clarinet too, right? - I can play the clarinet too, yeah. - 'Cause you have to learn to play the clarinet to be able to play the saxophone. - No, when you're driving in the car, listening to music, jazz? - I don't listen much to music in the car. - Okay, I keep you quiet usually. - What type of music do you listen to? That's not jazz. - Old jazz, I don't know, that's all I listen to. - You ever listen to rap? - No. - Can I have your cell phone number? - Yeah. - And I can text you, and I-- - Yeah. - You can have my cell phone number. - Can you, would you put your number at me? - We put a lot of jazz on in our house. - I love jazz. - I love jazz. - I love jazz. - I love jazz. - When we bought the house, we would just play Kennedy G all the time. - Yeah, awesome. - Seriously? - Yeah. - You're so cool. - We're gonna put pictures of you on that house. - I wonder if it's song you played. - We could even do, when we all hang out, we could do like a really long hangout. - We could go to each person's house. - All right, and that's a rap on Kennedy G. - Thank you. - Thank you, bro. That was so much fun, yeah. (upbeat music)