The Jaylen Brown/Analytics Debate, Kawhi Trade Rumors & LeBron to the Warriors? With Frank Isola

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I would say the Milwaukee deal was complicated based on what Yannis's agent was telling other teams about his willingness to extend with these teams that were going to use all these resources to trade for him. I think Boston certainly was in the mix here and the Miami was far more desperate and I think the agent probably scared off anybody else that led to an even worse market than you can imagine and having this whole thing dragged out this long. Just as an aside here, can we discuss how fucked it was after the trade deadline for Yannis to post "The Wolf of Wall Street" on "Stay in Meam" to his social media? You want to be like, "Hey, you know you're the one that wants to leave and it's been going on since last May." So, do you want to take some sort of victory lap that you weren't traded when the only reason that you're potentially traded is because you want to be traded? No, the content's too good. This is like some Dwight Howard shit. I love like a lot of players that I talk about. I love like 90 plus percent of it. I will take Yannis. I love his personality. I love his competitiveness. I think it's a home run for Miami, even if they don't have all the pieces in place, right? But to go, yeah, let's do the, do the I'm not leaving thing with the Caprio once I'm staying, you know, not to like double mean this whole thing, but it's a bit like the guy in the hot dog suit. I know his name is Tim. All right, so let's move on from that. Now, we can also move on probably from the debate of like Jaylen Brown and whether or not made more sense for him to be the centerpiece of a Milwaukee roster moving forward. I think if you look at the peak of like what Jaylen Brown is, it's better. Jaylen Brown, that actual player is better than anything else that Miami was able to grab. Who knows? Maybe one of these picks is going to be better than Jaylen Brown. Maybe one of the picks down the road, you know, years from now, that ends up being the best asset. And it's a long term thing with all that stuff because I don't know that anybody would take Tyler here over Jaylen Brown. The other problem from Milwaukee is if you're doing this deal, you can't then do it and then tear the whole thing down because they don't have control of any other picks in 27, 28, 29 or 30. A lot of people are going to say that Boston can't bring Jaylen Brown back because of the awkwardness because he's going to be pissed off about all this stuff. Jaylen Brown has always made it a little awkward at times. Whether you want to talk about it and be competitive, whether you maybe want to use the word annoying, I think most of those things would apply. His whole point about this past season being his favorite season, I know that people trashed him for that. I would not because I think I understood what he was trying to say and that everybody was counting this team out and then he got to be the number one option and they had a really great regular season and the players were disaster form. I still think they would have lost the nicks even if they had a healthy Tatum. So I don't know how far they were going to go. But this is somebody who has always had a problem with where he is perceived to be in this league. Like I think most of us would go, okay, he's not a one and then he would hear that and be like, you're out of your mind. I've won finals MVP. I look what I just did this year. All of you guys talked us out of even maybe being in the playoffs and I carried us all season long until Tatum was able to come back and I'm not a one. I don't blame him for feeling that way. I think you have to feel that way, specifically in this sport to be as good as he is. But nobody's ever voting him like consistently first team all NBA and he's never kind of lived in that neighborhood and maybe he's pissed that we don't accept that. But that's fine. That's fine. That can be that disconnect that we have. All right. I also understand why Jaylen Brown would be super pissed off about the Bobby, Bobby Mark's clip of an NBA team saying that Jaylen Brown would be the seventh best player on a team. Now, Jaylen Brown historically his analytics have never been that great. They were actually pretty good this year. Usually because of the turnovers, I took less threes this year, more mid-range stuff. It all worked out. I think there's some free throw stuff in the past, but free throw you lived with the free throw line this year. I think there's some on off stuff that happens with him defensively where I look at him and be like, okay, I can see the lapses and that kind of stuff. But I know like in the playoffs with his size and his athleticism, if you have to send him after a ball handler, like I know I like my chances probably a little bit better even if the numbers don't bear it out over the regular season. So again, if I'm Jaylen Brown and I see this clip where it's just Bobby Marx's quote that Jaylen Brown is suggested to be the seventh best player in NBA team, I lose my shit if I were him too. Now, granted, maybe I wouldn't waste my time with a couple hundred million in the bank with this, but fuck it. Who cares, especially when the younger dudes who've only grown up with seeing themselves talked about and then deciding whether or not they want to react to it. Now, it's a little unfair to go Bobby Marx for it because Bobby was basically trying to relay like the market for Jaylen Brown is complicated because of some of these advanced numbers that we keep referencing and his profile doesn't stand up as well against some of these other guys and Bobby actually continues to say that he disagreed with the opinion and that he's a Jaylen Brown guy. He said, quote, I would want Jaylen Brown on my team. So Marx is getting dragged. Brown gets mad at him for something Marx doesn't even believe in, but it was just him trying to relay that information on the rest of us of why it's a complicated market for somebody as talented and decorated as Jaylen Brown. There's also a bit of this clip conclusion thing that we have where we are not ever reading the article or never seeing the full interview. I mean, this is a way bigger problem to just sports. I mean, if the Kennedy assassination happened today, you'd have somebody go on, I don't know, top down, pretty lady on his arm, son is out. What's the issue? Anyway, so the advanced numbers. I like analytics. I just like being smart about this stuff. We should all like being smart about this stuff. Remember back in the day when a team because they were giving up the least amount of points per game in basketball and be like number one defense. I remember Zach Lowe getting mad at the net's Twitter account years ago when the nets were claiming they had the best defense in the NBA and then Zach Lowe just quoted it was like paste adjustment sigh, something like that. It made me laugh. We used to not adjust for pace. I don't even know that that's all that complicated. There's all sorts of stuff like LeBron and Darko and Vork that I'm like, I kind of think I know, but I'm not 100% sure I don't reference it all the time. Adjusted for pace shouldn't seem to be that complicated. Net rating shouldn't seem to be that complicated. I'm just glad we're using it because we all used to be morons about it. Like, hey, this team has an awesome defense because they don't have the other team scores. But yeah, it's also because their offense sucks and is super slow and they play at the clonkiest, muddiest pace imaginable. So the opponents points are a direct correlation to how bad they are in offense on top of everything else. Josh Hart had some interesting commentary where we basically said that analytics were just white geeks who couldn't play coming into the game. I would urge you if you want to take a look at some of the front office staff and how they're built out. There's plenty of non-white guys that working in analytics all over the league. you could even, if you wanted to stretch it a bit further and suggest that there's an argument to be made that what Hart said is actually not offensive to the white geeks that are in the NBA involved in some of these decisions. But like the eye test and concluding about a player that he's awesome because he's quote a bucket, you know, that kind of analysis is just as complicated as defaulting to whatever basketball reference tells you about a guy seven years ago, you know, without analytics Camp Thomas probably has a nice little contract 25 years ago. He doesn't have a job right now. You want to go through let's, let's, let's look at some numbers here because I was looking at it again because advanced stuff clearly has its problems too. The same number that had Yoke SGA and women Yama is the three best players in the NBA also has. So this is this year, right? So this number that I was looking at, it goes, Yoke SGA 2, Wembee 3. It also has Jalen Dern as the sixth best player in the NBA. Even if you hate Palo Vancaro, there's another number that city was the hundredth best player in the NBA this year. You want more Siacum was ranked 140th. And granted, if I'm looking at like one year of an advanced out of some of these guys, there's not 99 guys better than Palo Vancaro in the NBA. I don't even think there's 20, but I'm still high on the guy Walker Kessler has averaged 50 games a season in his four years in the NBA. Now granted, he would have played more this year if Utah wasn't tanking, but that's the number. It's like 201 games first career. The advanced numbers have him upset at Utah's five year 140 million dollar offer because advanced numbers, especially after his rookie year had him rank the 13 best player in the NBA. Now, again, just one sliver of these advanced numbers because I could come up with the number one. But granted, like guys like Kessler, it's why Rudy Gobert, like one year with Rudy, it was Yokeuch number one, Jimmy Butler, who's like been smart enough to hack the advanced game to make him look like he's a way better player than it actually is. Jimmy Butler was number two behind Yokeuch and then Rudy was number three behind those guys. So yeah, there's always numbers in there that you can find. You're like, well, this is why all of this stuff is collectively stupid. You want one more? How about this? Charlottes unit from last year, they're starting five. So it's Khan, it's Lamello, it's Bridges, it's Miller, and it's the body, right? So if you look at all of the top minute lineups and then looked at their net rating, Charlotte was number two in the NBA in net rating. That Charlotte five was number two in net rating in the NBA with that group at plus 26.4 net, a monster number. Detroit was number one. If like I looked at it this morning, the top 60 minute lineup combinations in the NBA this regular season, Detroit was number one at like plus 29. Charlotte again, number two, a plus 26, monster, monster numbers. You want to know where New York was plus two points with the five guys, the five guys we all know. Again, I don't even think those are like simple math things. They're not even like that complicated again. It's net rating. It's one of those things when I looked at with New York where I went, well, isn't that number better? Is that a problem for them in the playoffs? What's happening here is very predictable because you're applauded in a lot of circles when it's like get the nerds out of basketball. Look at some of these numbers. Let's say this guy is this and we all know that that's not true. I would agree with the eye test on a lot of those examples. There's plenty of numbers and I'm like, that's stupid. That's just not what it is. There's also a world where you're in the 90s and you're arguing to roommates that Cam Thomas is an all-star. Do you want to be doing that? Is that what you want? What generally happens, and it's very predictable, it's a very simple pattern that we follow this habit of over and over and over again, is that because we have more information and we're making more informed decisions that doesn't necessarily mean they all are the right decisions and we end up with conclusions that are massive overreaction. When we write back after a quick word from our sponsors. Hey, Kirk Herch Street here. During the college football season, my golden retriever Peter and I are constantly on the road. Yep, Peter knows ball. When you travel this much, you want the gold standard. That's why Peter and I partnered with Hertz. They've got a brand new fleet of rental cars, a great app, and the best loyalty perks in the biz. So if you're traveling to cheer on your favorite college team, or kicking off a different road trip, go direct at Hertz.com/Peter. From the starting lineup NBA radio with Brian Scalbrini, it is Frank Isola, a friend of the show. It's good to see you. Good morning. How are you? What's up? How are you? I thought we'd be talking to you during the NBA finals because every time I go off the air with you and behind the scene, Frank, yeah, I know you guys tried to get me, but call me. I'll come on. We call you. I think there were what? Five games in the series. So we called you all five off days and we couldn't track you down. It's all right. Yeah, I told Warren I was traveling for the finals and it was, I mean, I guess I could have booked a later flight to come on and do a 10 minute phone. So my bad. What do you travel and be a stage coach? Come on, man, you could, like, you could go five minutes is all we need. You can make fun of Brian. You give us like your little finals take and we move on. Do all my finals take now. Yes, give it to me that the air and fox isn't very good at Mitch Johnson did not have a good series. Hopefully that's your take. Yeah, yeah, that you nailed it. You nailed it. Did you pick the nicks? Yeah, yeah, to be honest with you, when Tyrese Halliburton went down in game seven last year, I thought, how are the nicks not getting to the finals? Now, if they played Oklahoma City, a healthy Oklahoma city team, maybe it'd be different, but you know, the spurs obviously show their inexperience in all those games. What was the great stat? They held a lead for 72% of the series. They ended up losing all three home games. And they blew the 29 point lead on the road in the second half. And they were up 20 kind of late in the fourth, what maybe seven or eight minutes left in the fourth quarter. I mean, a lot of ways they gave it away. The nicks were the better team in the fourth, but the air and fox it was, I couldn't believe it's, quote, after game four when he went up for the layup and they asked them, why'd you do this? And what we hadn't scored in a while. Actually, with 30 seconds left, if on Castle hit two free throws, which counts as scoring, which gave you the one point lead. So you did score it. That was not a good look. And now he's due to make $229 million over the next four years. Okay. As a lifelong kind of like association with the nicks here, at least professionally, right? Is there any part of you that, say, I think I know the answer that's already that, that feels a sense of pride in terms of winning. Yeah. Not really. I mean, I like a lot of people associated, you know, Patrick Cueing, Walt Frazier who, you know, when I first got on the beat, he's doing the radio TV and could not be a nicer guy to fans. Anyway, that comes up to Walt is terrific. I've always, I was close with Larry Johnson when I covered the team. I know Rick Brunson really well. I know Jalen Brunson. So I was really happy for those guys, Brandon O'Connor, who's with the Clippers, Chris Jent, who I've known for a long time. So I was happy for those guys, because it's not, it's not easy to win. And you got to catch a lot of breaks along the way, but to the nicks credit, like these opportunities don't come along very often. Like this was going to be the next year. They, they, everything broke right for them. They didn't have to play the Celtics. So I still think they were beaten. But they're better than Philly. They're better than Cleveland. They crushed those teams. They had more time to rest than they run into an inexperienced spurs team. But the nicks were the better team in the fourth of all the games. Jalen Brunson, for the most part, was the best player in the fourth quarter. So to their credit, you know, they have winning players on that team, man. They got tough minded guys. So I was, to me, it just shows you, it's not always about having, you know, the highest paid players and getting, you know, all these kind of hood ornaments. It's going out and getting guys that are physical and tough minded players like O'Jana nobi, like Josh Hart and of course, like Jalen Brunson. Do you think it'll be November or December when Nicks fans start to contain about all the picks from the Kel Bridges, 100% 100%. I keep thinking like when is, you know, what is the other shoe going to drop now? The owner did a pretty good job going on radio before the parade. How about him? Like you didn't see him for 25 years. Now he's like racing to the front of the line to get credit for the team winning, releasing that speech that he gave to the team on April 3rd. Then he comes out the day before the parade and says, yeah, we don't want to go into the second apron. That's fine. That that's your philosophy. Why are you saying that publicly, the day before the parade? Why don't we let it breathe a little bit? Let the people enjoy it. And then when for the agency starts, you want to say that publicly or just by your actions, you'll prove it. Now if they don't bring back Mitchell Robinson, everyone's going to say, see Jim Dolan's being cheap and we know how much money he's got. Everyone understands the financial ramifications of the second apron. But why say it? And then the other argument could be, who knows? This might be your best chance to win another title by bringing the whole group back. I don't think they'll do that, but they have a pretty good chance. Yeah, he probably could wait. I mean, Grinney was asked. He was asked about the future of the roster and all these different things. But you don't say anything. All those things we're going to, you don't have to say, they got a, Ryan, And the guy never answered questions for 25 years. Now all of a sudden he's got to tell you, you know, all their business right before they're about to go, you know, the canyon of heroes, go to City Hall, that part of it made no sense, but come on. He wants for him, this is validation. He never really wanted to be associated with the team and it was losing. Oh, that's my basketball, my management team. I'm not involved. Now they win. Now he's telling you how involved he is. That's part of it as well. Let's take a look at some of the off-season stuff. Charlotte, I have so much respect for them, just because they're like, this is an incredible year. Probably the most fun any Charlotte fan has had here for 10 years. Probably even more than that, right? Because it's not only new, it's young, it's exciting, and it feels like they knew they always wanted to move off a lamello. The bridge's situation is complicated by obviously the biggest factor being what you think of as a person, but they brought them back and they paid them again. They're able to move off of that in a deal where I still don't understand why Phoenix would want to expose a 2033 pick, other than they seem to hate first round picks. What do you make of what Charlotte did in the face of all this momentum the franchise has? I think that they didn't want to overreact to what happened last year, especially the second half of the season. Let's also remember, they didn't make the playoffs. They went down to Orlando and got absolutely smoked. In the game that they won against Miami, if you look late in the game, lamello made some decisions that were not great. They had a lot of games where they were blowing teams out, but in close games, they were losing. They like lamello ball. They had no problem with them as a person. They liked them as a player. They felt like he got better, that he was toning it down a little bit on some of those crazy three-pointers that he takes, but they're trying to look at the big picture. I think that they feel it's a way for Brandon Miller, Con Canippell, to kind of take on more ownership, leadership role with the team. I think in light of what happened last year, they're almost willing to take a step back because they think two, three, four, five, six years down the road, they're going to be a much better team. Ryan, the easiest thing to do is to try to get rid of a guy when he's at his low point. They traded lamello at, this was the best basketball that he had played, but he has injured a lot. He's got a huge contract. We have no idea whether or not he could be a big-time winning player. He did play well against Miami. I'll give him that in that playing game, but they lost the next game. He's never been in the playoffs before. I could see why Charlotte fans would be a little meft, but I think they actually have a plan. I think they've got pretty smart people in ownership, the front office, and the coaching staff as well. Yeah, it seems like a complete overhaul. I just don't know that many teams would do that. It's not a complete overhaul on the roster obviously here, but when that Kobe White deal happened, it was thought of as, hey, this is great, better than Sexton. He shot it really well. You can plug and play. You can play him off the ball. You can have him run the second unit, all that stuff. Looking at it now, you're like, I wonder if they just went, hey, do you want to pick Kobe White, 60% of what we're paying lamello, and Kobe plays all the time for the most part. I just don't think many teams would have done that, so I think they deserve a lot of credit for it. The Jalen Brown thing, depending on where you want to go with it, I had said in the open, I don't know if he's going to get traded or not. The market seems to be a little bit more complicated for him. I mentioned the Bobby Marx references. We're a clip of a greater point where Bobby completely had his back as a player and disagreed with the assessment that he'd be the seventh best player in the team based on one analytic staff member's opinion of Jalen here. I'll start with this. I think it is overblown of the idea of they do this all off season, and that they can't bring him back when he knows what it is. He knows who his teammates are. He knows the coach. It's Brad Stevens who's a calming presence, I think, and basketball. And Jalen's always been a little high maintenance. So the idea that they have to now trade him because they were so close on the Janus thing, I think that's inaccurate. No, I'm not buying it either, and I also think really if you step back, he makes a ton of money. He could be in line for another big contract. He's going to turn what, 30 in October, and it was Janus and Teta Kumpel who you were linked to. It's not just a bunch of role players where they're trying to like fill in some pieces. Now, who knows? Maybe it could eventually be that, but you were being traded for Janus and they felt the deal with Miami was better. Now, on Saturday morning, I'm driving back from DC and I happen to hear that interview with Bobby Marx. And I was surprised by the fallout because Bobby was really supportive of Jalen Brown. I think what he was trying to bring up, and Brian has talked about this a little bit as well. Not everyone in the league is in love with Jalen Brown. I think their net rating is actually better when he's off the floor. But Bobby said, I look at it. The, for me, he passes the I test. And one of the results been that he listed everything that he's accomplished in 10 years, what the Celtics record has been over the past four years, finals MVP, Eastern Conference finals, MVP. I get it. Jalen Brown's antenna is up now. So anytime something like that comes out, he's gonna, he's gonna react to it on social media. I totally get it. But Bobby was actually being complimentary of Jalen Brown. And he was defending him. And whatever this executive said to him, we all know that the guy wasn't bellishing and, you know, being somewhat flippant. Oh, he'd be the seventh best player. Because how many teams would even go down that road? Like Oklahoma City, San Antonio, the Knicks, I don't know, maybe Orlando. There's no way that executive on most of the teams on the league are going to say that Jalen Brown would be their seventh best player. I just think there, the analytic guys are factoring the contract when it comes to what he does on the court. But as you know, Ryan in a salary cap league, the contract matters. And the guy makes a ton of money. I like him as a player. I voted him top five MVP. I voted him first team, all NBA. Now, I'm not Jalen Brown. I'm not as father. So I'm not the one that has to get insulted by hearing my name, link to trade talks. But he's had a lot of success in Boston. They have a really good organization. And you've seen this a million times. You could say you won out. Not that he has said that. But maybe you're trying to maneuver to go to a different team. You land in that different team. Within a couple of months, you say, man, we do it a lot different up in Boston. We're a lot more locked in as an organization. Be careful. Sometimes what you wish for. I'm sure they have issues in Boston. But there's a lot of teams around the league that have major issues who don't run things the way they do up in Boston. The analytic war, depending on which side you're on here, but I just thought Josh Hart's comments. And I love Josh Hart. I'd want Josh Hart on my team. But I just thought they were so stupid because I don't know when it pivoted. I remember Jalen Rose bringing it up once on TV at ESPN where it became kind of like a race conversation. And then it was like a fight against hoopers and numbers and all this kind of stuff. And you just go, I don't know that it's this movement. We are collectively trying to do things smarter in every business for, I mean, basically it's like an internet age thing. Look at anybody or talk to anybody who runs a company and be like, what kind of decisions are you making now? What kind of information do you have now at your disposal versus 25 years ago, depending on what business that you're in? And so basketball and the players seem to take it so personally. And I understand Jalen like, because that's the way it works. Ollie doesn't see that he's a seven best player on a team based on one conversation that Bobby Marx is relaying to emphasize a point about market that Bobby actually disagrees with. Exactly. It's just the way it works. Like if I saw just one line about me, I'd go, what is what is this? But this has been going on now for a few years. And it kind of becomes cringe worthy commentary as far as I'm like, I'm sure plenty of people listening is completely disagree. But I don't think the nerds all got together and said, let's destroy ISO scores. Yeah. Yeah. And so go ahead. No, I was I think for a lot of the players, I think they look at it as well. Look at some of these guys that you're hiring, they went to Ivy League schools or they went to some of these top schools in the country. They're brilliant at math. Well, if you're going to if that's what you're going to base it on, well, I'm probably not going to get one of these jobs. So I think there's a little bit of that where they felt that a natural progression for a lot of guys was coaching or maybe you move into a front office. But I think that's somewhat short-sighted because I do think the smart places do have the analytic guys, but they have the guys that are pretty good at evaluating talent. I have no idea what Jerry West, what he believed in with analytics, but he was pretty good at evaluating talent. I remember having this conversation with Sam Mitchell with Tom Tibito. They always say, like we've been doing and the coaches were doing analytics for a long time. They would always say, what do you think Pat Riley was doing 20 and 30 years ago? They they looked at certain analytics. It just became, you know, a bigger part of it because I think there's there's more guys in a front office to think about it right. You hire more people now in the front office. There are more people trying to get ahead. So for media guys, it's a little bit easier to get to get a relationship with some of these guys because they're looking to promote themselves. So I think that all feeds into it. But I do think analytics has a place, but I also think there's something to be said for the guys that can evaluate talent like what Bobby was saying with the eye test. After watching no offense, but after watching Philadelphia and Cleveland and even San Antonio to some extent. And then I watch with the next day. If I were it. the owner of a team, a general manager, I'm putting a lot into who's competitive, who plays hard all the time and who's available. I can't start, I can't be paying these guys crazy money just because I'm supposed to, and I want me to pick on Darren Fox. He'll probably never have a bigger moment that he just had in the NBA finals, and did he come through for them? No. And now I gotta pay him $29 million? Why? 'Cause he had analytics, maybe somebody in analytics thinks that that's a smart move. Maybe somebody evaluated him, thought he was good. I don't, again, I don't mean to pick on him, but he had the biggest moment in his career up to this point, and I thought he failed miserably. I'm, and the same thing with James Harden, I like the trade for Harden when Cleveland made it. I thought there were two small, with Darren Scarlan, and I watched the way he performed in the playoffs. I would, I know, maybe this would hurt me in the short term. I would say, listen, I know we had a handshake agreement, we're not doing it. And I brought up bringing you back. We can't, I can't justify paying you, what would it be? $60, $70, $80 million, over the next couple of years. How am I gonna do that? We got smoked in the playoffs. Then I look at the nicks, look at the guys that they have. Like, O'Geean and Obi, hard, Brunson, just tough, hard, playing, guys. Those are the only guys you win with. I don't care how much they make, how much they don't make. That has a lot to do with it. So whoever you're wearing analytics guys are, I need them to focus a little bit more on what's inside the guy, not just the numbers. - It's actually a good pivot back to Jaylen Brown because for years, you know, you'd sort through all the numbers and you'd look at it and be like, "God, his advanced profile is not nearly as impressive." Which again, which is what Bobby's point is and why the teams that are, you know, I think most of this stuff, most teams, the smartest guys, the guys that you would think were all driven by a spreadsheet, they will tell you, like, yeah, of course I use it and I wanna see what it says in comparison to everything else, but I would never just look at the spreadsheet and decide, okay, this is what we're doing. Even though I think there's probably more ownership. I think there's probably a handful of owners that I can think of that are maybe more directed than that more so than anyone that they're paying to be on their basketball staff. But, you know, depending on what you think about Jaylen Brown or other players, like, I'm not gonna say his name, but like, there's a score right now that's available on the straight market. I think he's one of the biggest frauds going and I'm not talking about James Harden 'cause I've seen it in a limited playoff experience where I go, I don't care how many points you've scored. I see what happens to you once the playoffs crank up and you are not ready for it. And then I think about Jaylen Brown and whether it was that Pacer series, the NBA finals granted the MVP trophy for the Easter Conference finals and for the finals MVP. That's my own little thing 'cause I actually think like Tatum is clearly the most important player, but I know that if Tatum is clogged up on a huge offensive possession, tight, late playoff game, it can be the NBA finals that I feel more comfortable with Jaylen Brown having the ball on his hands and a lot of the other guys are gonna have better profiles on it because I've already, and here's the thing, I'm not even guessing, I've already seen it. We've all seen it. So I can understand Jaylen Brown being upset or I can understand kind of the players kind of pushing back and it's kind of your nix point on top of everything else. I think there are a lot of guys that once they're out there late, they still may even still end up with their points, but there's just a comfort level that is really hard to understand until you see a player get the opportunity to show you who he is. - Yeah, I like to listen, I'm vindictive and I could be a baby. So if I was in the same position as Jaylen Brown, I'd probably be doing the same thing. I'd be lashing out at everybody, but you need someone to tell you, listen, it's not what you think it is. And I go back to when they lost to Miami, they were up 3-0 in the series. I'm down 3-0, tied it up, lost game seven, Tatum got hurt, they end up losing to Miami. And I knew what we were gonna get the next warning on the radio show. Break up, you have to break up Tatum and Brown. And me and Bryan Scalibre, my radio partner, we were both like, I think that's nuts. It's so hard to get great players. And if you trade, if you got rid of Jaylen Brown, this is before they won the title, obviously, you have to find someone that does what he does. Now, when he tries to dribble behind his back, as it drives, he nuts a little bit, does he sometimes take too many threes? And I'm pretty sure he led the league in turn of his own out mistaken. But look at it from the Celtics point of view. He plays all the time. He plays both ends of the court. So I think they could kind of live with all right. If Jaylen wants to go one-on-one certain times and dribble behind his back and dribble between his legs, he's gonna lose the ball, they could live with it because they know in the long run, they could count on him. And I think to your point, he has delivered in huge moments. I mean, the guy has played, if I'm not mistaken, I think it's definitely 140. It might be 144 playoff games. So when 10 years in the league, the anniversary of him getting drafted just passed. So when 10 years, you got a 140 playoff game, you got two trips to the finals. He's a finals MVP and you want to championship. How many guys that went in the top 10 this year? Would their team say, you give us that over the next 10 years? We would 100, we would 100% take that. The guy's delivered. There's no question about it. I just think now Boston looks at it as, everybody now seems to, somebody, the trends change all the time. Everybody's getting bigger. Look at what Oklahoma City did in the draft. Look at what the Spurs did, adding big men to play with Wendman Yom. It seems like now everyone needs to have more size. So maybe they're looking at it as do we, do we need the two great wing players? Or should we try to, do we use Jalen Brown to add more size? I think it's just a basketball thing. I don't necessarily think it's like, well, this guy's run his course. I think they know that he's still a terrific player. But I also wonder, is there part of him that wants, his quote-unquote, and I hate this thing, his own team? But again, Ryan, be careful what you ask for. It's not every organization is Oklahoma City, or the Spurs, or the Boston Celtics. It doesn't work like that. Or the Knicks. Yeah, yeah, right. Or the Heat. Or the Heat. We'll be right back after a quick word from our sponsors. Hey, Kirk Herb Street here. When Herb said they needed a football analyst, I assume they wanted my help. Turns out they wanted Peter, my dog. I didn't even think Peter knew ball. Well, technically he knows that ball. Now, Peter's part of the Herb's Gold Squad. And we'll be making weekly picks throughout the college football season. So whether you're coming to the stadium to cheer on Peter's picks, or kicking off your own road trip, book direct at curbs.com/Peter. Do you like Janice and Miami? Yeah, they'll figure it out. I give, you got to respect Pat Riley. He goes to Miami. I mean, it's been there for so long now. And he knows what he's got. He's got the great place to live, the no-state income taxes, and he swings for the fences all the time. And they know that thing got stale over the past couple of years. They weren't going anywhere. They're going to roll the dice. They'll develop players. They'll find a couple of guys somehow to get them cheap. Because again, he's showing conferences wide open. It's, you know, they can make a couple of moves and be right back in the mix of it. Orlando could do that. Detroit could do that. Obviously, the Knicks are good enough to repeat. Again, I like it. I think he'll rejuvenate it. I didn't have to be a coach. Tell me, look at Kevin Garnett's first year in Boston. Same age, 31 years old. And now Garnett had played much better as last year in Minnesota than the honest did. This past season with Milwaukee. And right away, they thought they were getting Garnett for like two really good years, maybe starting to decline by the fourth year. No good. Didn't have like six good years there. So like they knocked it out of the park with that deal for Garnett, including two finals. And as you know, and Scalabrini says this, the year after they went to the finals, they think that was their best team. They got off to a great start. And of course, Garnett got hurt in that ruin. They're a little run. Yeah, that was, I share this with the audience, but just to follow up with you. When I sat with tips, he was like 2009. He said that was the best team. Yeah, he said, just Scalabrini said the same thing. He's like, Oh, nine was the best team of the three. Quiet. When I heard about the San Antonio Toronto thing, I laughed a little 'cause it's like, it's the most complicated person ever or is either the simplest. I still don't have an answer. I don't know. I don't know the answer. I think he's an awful partner, a terrible partner. I would, and you sit there and you give like, what are you better prepared for? Like if you're not going to extend him, what she's going to want, are you better off because he's planning for the next contract? Maybe you also might be way worse off because he's like, I'm going to make sure I'm healthy for the next contract. So pencil me in for about 38 games in May, we'll see. So I know how the team will sell it that'll acquire him. They'll probably give him some sort of one and one or something like that. Do you like it? Knowing all of the complications. Do you like it for any team? Well, you know, for Toronto, it's not the craziest thing because it would be for brand and Ingram it sounds like. And you know, if you look at their medical staff up there, you know, led by Alex McKecney, who used to be with the Lakers back in the day. You know, Kauai has a relationship with them. Now remember, his one and only year in Toronto, he played 60 games. This year with the Clippers, he played 65, but it wasn't like he was available for 75 games. What he was available for was the playoffs. And he had the great playoff run, which of course, the huge shot against Philly, then you catch a break against Golden State because you don't have to play Kevin Durant and then Clay Thompson ends up getting hurt. So I think because he's familiar with what they have up there, I think they're willing to roll the dice. Me personally, I just, I don't know if I can do it. The uncertainty of when he's going to play and I don't know when is he healthy, I just think it's kind of running. It's course. He's 34 years old. And today is his birthday. And if you go back and look at the top of the clip, thanks for letting us know what the clipper set out on this was in 2023. It was for every retweet, co-I will plant aspiration and co-I will plant a tree. I think it was around the end of a dome or something like that. So this was all the way back in 2023. I figured you'd appreciate that. He's still a terrific player, but to me, it's too much of a question more. If it's for Brandon England, is it the craziest thing? Maybe not because England did not have a great playoff series against Cleveland, wasn't you hurting a bunch of those games as well? He was. Yeah. He also was terrible. And he was terrible against OKC when he had to go up against. There's, there's something wrong when England has to go up against the physicality of the play. Yeah. So that would be another guy that I would add and be like, oh, cool 20 points guy. It's sad. Do you think it sounds like it's going to happen, doesn't it? I'm going to turn around. It does. I would say because I just think it's so easy. So if you're the clippers who, I don't know why you'd want to extend them. And then all of us are still kind of like wondering and this is the thing with investigations where I think the public gets very annoying because it's like, hey, how long has it been going on? It's like, OK, there's one thing between like what everyone can generally assume like something weird happened here. Yeah. This is what you can prove. Um, you know, there's an aside here too, which I don't know that I've talked about on the air. And so I don't know how much you would want to talk about it, but I'm going to go for it anyway. Like, I remember when Durant went to the Warriors, it was applauded about all the business opportunities off the court because of tech and San Francisco, all right. There's been accepted for decades that if this player ends up in this market, then the shoe deal has this kind of language in it that tells you like it's going to be worth even more because you're going to make a market and all these different things. When you see certain ads that are partners with the NBA, you know, big time companies that are doing year long sponsorships and the players that end up in those ads. And sometimes it's like a player's association thing. Sometimes it's like, hey, let's collectively like get behind this person. They're in a bigger market. There's been a general understanding and it's not circumventing the cap. But it's like, hey, there's, there's probably some wiggle room here, depending on where you go, some of these other opportunities that you're going to have. And no one's ever had an issue with it ever because it's all sort of vague and whatever. And in this case, you have a company that's clearly fraudulent. The guy behind it sentenced to 14 years in jail and you also got together with Kauai who's not even going to pretend to play the game. Like, I can't even believe the happy birthday tweet exists. The crazy thing is is that if this company had actually just planted trees, then we wouldn't know about any of this. And as mad as other teams have been about it, who probably won't love the little soliloquy that I just threw out there because it's not like I'm accepting it or saying, hey, layoff with the clippers. But I've always felt like there's a bit of a gray area of these opportunities to exist for the highest profile players, depending on which market they end up in. And I don't know if that's part of the complication, but if the clippers are able to move Kauai for a couple first later on from Toronto and Ingram, who they're probably indifferent about, will still get you buckets during the regular season. I wonder what the reaction is going to be, like, you're just allowed to trade him. So now what happens? Do the clippers get penalized still because they're able to prove something? Just Kauai just get to walk away with all of it in knowing the money that he's accused for. This may end up having an unsatisfying ending for the people that have the pitchforks out whenever something like this happens. All right. So since we're going on this road, do you think maybe the leaks is, well, here's the deal. Maybe if you trade him, the penalty won't be as harsh. Maybe if you move on from him and trade him some plays, coincidentally enough, it would be Toronto. And I know you heard him out of the country. I see. We go with it. Right. You'll have to look at what's extra to back into the state. Remember in the summer of 2019, when Kauai was the free agent, you know, we're all hearing all this stuff that, you know, his uncle Dennis is asking for all this outrage, his stuff that they're not allowed to do. And Timel, real quick, you remember the athletic piece that basically felt like it was sourced from Lakers people that were mad at the Clippers ended up with him. And then I don't know what you had heard. And we had talked about it. I mean, there's a clip of Steve and a talking about it that summer too, because everyone was hearing it. I remember one, I remember one piece that that we had heard was that the offer starts at the max. Yep. So go ahead. No, yeah. Then I wasn't at things like maybe some like the ad revenue that he would get some of that. And then there was talk about private planes. It was all this stuff where the Toronto Raptors idea, we can't do it. And that's what raised a couple of eyebrows when he did end up on the Clippers. That part of that too is, remember, he is from that area. So there was the idea, well, he is going back home. I just thought it was interesting because back in 2019, that's also, is that also Durant and Kyrie, right? So there was like, that was a big free agent summer. So it was weird, it was one of those stories that's out there and a lot of people were talking about it, but it wasn't anything, anybody was really investigating that much. Again, like you pointed out, the athletic did a story and then years later, of course, public Tory did a whole podcast on it. I can't wait to see what happens there. I mean, if you're the Clippers, I don't even know why you'd want to extend them. I know we just had an incredible year. I mean, you can even make an argument, but hey, did he just come off of his best season? I wouldn't go that far with it, but it was an incredible, it was one of those things. I think I voted him in all-star starter and I went into the voting process, like putting together, okay, here are your automatics. Here's who you think is in the mix, start whittling down the numbers and then, you know, you put Kwai's name down and you start digging through and be like, this is a no brainer. Yeah. And go ahead. Remember how good he was in that one, those little minigames? Well, he's got like radar the way he shoots the ball. I mean, it's like, it's amazing how talented of a player he is. I just, I mean, if you're Toronto, I guess you're thinking we got Scotty Barnes at the age that he's at and we got a couple of guys, we really think we can make a run in the Eastern Conference. Hey, in defense of the Raptors, it did work once before. It's one of the greatest trades in NBA history. They rented a player for one year, which a lot of teams do Ryan. They just don't end up with a banner. They rented him for one year and the guy delivered. So maybe they're thinking, why not try it again? We got the support staff still basically the same. I know Messiah Jerry is down in Dallas, but the medical staff is here. We work once. Let's do it again. If I'm saying Tony, oh, I'm good. I'm not doing it for this first. No way. All the grief that he caused them and now they're going to bring them back. Just go get a point card. That's what they need to do. Being lucky, you should meet the new lucky one sweet tea from this peaches. 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I think I had heard in October the Warriors this, you know, the longer it goes on and the more stuff that's going on, now Dremon is, isn't going to be signed because there's a way that they're going to try to do a trade with Anthony Davis to convince LeBron to go there. They're going to have an old team. They're going to be, you know, they're going to be taking on guys at the YMCA who will be younger than their team. I don't know if you win with a bunch of old guys, but it sounds like I, if I'm betting right now, I would say the worst. I'd love to see him in Cleveland. I think that'd be a really cool story, but I got a weird feeling it's going to be the Warriors. Look at you. What do you think? Do you think that'd be based on LeBron perceiving the offers and insult from the latest? Yeah. And then I think, you know, he did strike up a good relationship with Steph Curry. I mean, their relationship probably goes back to when they were both born in the same hospital back in Akron. But I think that has a little bit to do with it getting, you know, and then if he could still live in LA, I mean, big shots like you, it's a hopskip and a jump, you know, it's an easy fight. They're in LA, right? Yeah. My, my Oakland condo. I'm there like, exactly, especially on a weekend. That's a fun town on the weekends. Steph, you know, it'd be the greatest move ever is that Steph still mad about the 2016 finals in the Halloween party, where there was this corpse on the threshold of going into the party. And then I forgot about that. And then I remember on his crew said that it was the caterers that did it. Yeah. It's like, oh, really? They're the ones that came up with the dead Steph Curry body theme. Okay. Um, I would never get over that. Look, I'm still more upset about it than Steph is. So I haven't gotten over it. Steph. It would be just hilarious if it's like, okay, yeah, yeah, no, we want you. We're going to figure it all out and then revenge 10 years later. It's like, hey, remember, we had my dead body at your Halloween party. All right. So you think that was the caterer or the players? And do you think that the Cavaliers, when they had their reunion over in Great Britain, they did or did not invite Kyrie to join them? I guarantee you they invited Kyrie, knowing that he wouldn't go because he probably doesn't play golf. Hey, we're having a golf trip just so give you a warning. It's going to be a lot of golf, but hey, but you should come, but just so you know, it's going to be a lot of golf. We're going to play like 72 holes a day, but come, you know, I know you don't play golf, but you should come. It'll be fun. And then he probably took it as well. I guess they really don't want me there. I'm not going to go. It sounds like it seemed like a golfing trip, right? More than anything. It did seem like a golfing trip. Those guys looked like they were having a great time. And I can't imagine what it's like to have that kind of accomplishment. And you know, there was a group of guys that were just a couple of years ago and they were celebrating something. Like, what are you guys doing? And they're like, oh, we're celebrating, you know, 10 years since our championship. And I was just like, my God, that's hard to believe, right? That's going to be useful. Yeah, I'm not even thinking about the 10 years, just to be a part of something that matters that much. Yeah, that's true. That you're fighting for. It's just very few of us ever get that opportunity to go ahead and put, but right, you know, you invite J.R. Smith and J.R. loves playing golf and he's a very good golfer. J.R. is going to be the life of the party, they're going to bust his balls. He's going to say funny things that they're all going to laugh at. I think Kyrie is a great dude. He's cool. Kyrie to me doesn't come across as the guy you want sitting next to in the golf court. I just think his conversation, like, Kyrie's not going to be saying, what club do you think I should use? I'm about 150 yards. Hey, Kyrie's going to want to talk about other things. I think everyone was like, you know what, we'll go on another trip with Kyrie, maybe not golfing. I think Kyrie not playing and being in the car all day, especially if you're trying to get 36 in could be tough. Yeah. Exactly. And it's not a knock on him. I mean, when I play, you play golf at all? I do. I'm good for nine holes. I have to, golf should be nine or 12 holes. I can't do 18. I'm done after 12. I did it. I enjoyed it. I want to do something. I don't want to turn this into a four hour day. I can't do it. 12 holes. That's me. Not, not when you're content. It's tough when you're content like you are. So the Lakers can't offer LeBron the number that, and I don't blame Rich Paul on all for saying, like, hey, why does our guy have to pay? Like no agent is going to start the process being like, we can't wait to take a pay cut, okay. He delivered in a way for the number, you know, you're looking at what this option was going to be. And you're like, how much can you be paying him $50 plus million at that kind of age? And he delivered. He was fantastic in that Houston series and everybody else is down around him. It's just he keeps extending what you think is possible here. And even having said that, it's like, you can't come back at this astronomical one year number out of respect when we're trying to figure out the rest of the team because we know what's going to happen. It's going to be February. And if we don't have the right center, you're going to be mad at us and it's like, well, you wanted to make sure you maximized everything. So I would have thought there was some way they could go. We want to be respectful, but we want to pay you more than anybody else can with the mid-level. And if you want to go football route where you get cut for a number and then sign somewhere else that we actually would have kept you at, because that's what seems to happen in the NFL all the time, I would don't know if it would be a spite thing. I don't know if it would be a ring thing. And, you know, to your warriors point, how old that they're possibly going to be with this Anthony Davis rumor. I don't know what you're supposed to do. Yeah. We've probably shifted in a way where we're criticizing teams built around an older superstar in a way that's completely unfair. It's like, what are you supposed to do? Reset the deck around Steph at 37 years old. Yeah. Sign up for risky guys. Sign up for name brand stuff that maybe is five years old, but at least it's better than having Steph run around there with, and I give them credit for building out the rotation that they have. And I'd like Guy Santos's energy, but when the ball ends up in Guy Santos's hands in a huge spot in the fourth quarter, you're like, all right, maybe you should hire the older name guys that are maybe hurt all the time. Yeah. And you got to think of LeBron. He's probably good for 55 to say, I'll even give him 70 games, but I'm thinking closer to, you know, 60 games, you'll probably get him for. And if I'm the Lakers, I'm a little concerned because I don't think he's going to give me a discount number one. And number two, when I look at my guys, Austin Reeves and Luca, Luca wasn't even available for the playoffs. Austin Reeves dealt with injuries all season long, entered the playoffs, injured. LeBron, I wanted him to be my third best player, and on too many nights he had to be our best player because our two guys were injured. So that's got to be a huge concern for the Lakers because he's obviously gone down a little bit. He's still a tremendous player, but his importance to the team grew last season because of Luca and his, you know, the injuries that he dealt with later in the season, obviously, but also Austin Reeves. So if I get it, LeBron, at this age, I kind of understand, he's thinking, well, why don't I got to give you a discount for it? I'm like, on all these nights, I'm carrying the team, well, I'm not giving you a discount. You guys figured out, like, don't take my salary, like, you put it on me that we can't get a center because I keep asking for crazy money. I'm the one guy that you could basically count on every game. So that's why I just think, I just think something's going to happen there, where he's going to say, you know what? I know Drayman really well, they got Anthony Davis back, can I kiss the mate up after I knew about the trade to Dallas, but I didn't tell him. And me and Steph became boys over in France. So let me go join the Warriors. Are you ready to talk soccer? Let's go. What do you want to talk about? I heard you were out of game. I haven't even been to a game yet. And you've been to a game. Look at that. Doesn't bite it. I think three. And we were, you invited to three, was it for free, or did you have to pay for the ticket? Game one was free. There was a, we're never going to, all right, like, and I got it, divulging everything that happened. But it went from like two invites to then I watched it at home, just like one invite, cancel about the other invite. So that was a complication. So I was like, okay, well, I'm just not going to go. That's not the big of a deal. I know it's right at the street. I'm not going to get emotional about the whole thing. And then, and then Turkey A is in the building. Well done. So I get in there and it was, look, I loved it. It was even better. The atmosphere inside of you thought, if you had said anybody, hey, where are you right now? You know, you could have told me I was in any place in the world. Like, all right, you're in London, you're in Tokyo, you're in Dubai right now. Like this, so far, showed off in such a great way. And I know it wasn't allowed to be called so far during that game. I would say I'll never look at this team from Turkey at the same way ever again. Cheap shot. Oh, just really nasty, a nasty group of guys. And then right as you're getting ready to be like, all right, how are you getting out of here? You lose in the last possible minute. Are you supposed to celebrate if you're on the field, even though you're not getting out of the group with that win? What's the ruling on that? Because I mean, people should pat Beverly and the Timberwolves in the playing game. At least, at least they advanced. Number one, I mean, yeah, that was a disappointment for Turkey, not to advance. But it means that it just shows you how much it means to these countries that they get the late goal and the way that they celebrated. So they're able to get out of there with three points, major disappointment. But it's interesting about the World Cup with the added teams and Africa has had a great tournament with all the teams that advanced, even though South Africa lost yesterday. It's so far. It's so far. It looks great on television. You know, I know why they're having it in the New York area just because it's the New York area, but the stadium there is terrible. What a, what a disaster. I haven't been to a game yet, but I got tickets and I bought the tickets when they first came out in that silly lottery, which was expensive. I got round to 16, Saturday in Philadelphia. If things go according to plan, that's France, Germany. And then I got the next day right down the road here at MetLife and that if things go right, I can get Brazil, Norway, of course, featuring Earl and Holland. So I'm looking forward to that. Now, the problem is we're going to run into the weather. It's going to be, the games are going to be in the 90s because it's going to get to 100 degrees on the East Coast in the middle of the week. So the weather on Friday and Saturday could be pretty brutal. The hydration breaks they take will finally be justified. But I'll tell you something, right down the street from me, there's a hotel in town and Germany stayed there. So I saw the German coaches walking around and then England stayed there on Thursday. Now, they checked in on Friday and they're believing on Saturday, but there was a ton of people found out about it. Then of course, the hotel was being maw, but the tournament's been incredible. The added teams, I actually think, has made it a lot of fun. The NCAA tournament, when it gets to the round of 32, that's when the tournament really starts. The first round there's a lot of blowouts. So think about it. We're having around a 32, we get 16 round of 32 games, which after playing the one game yesterday, it's now three a day for the rest of the week. It's awesome. The third invite was, I was asked to pay just if that makes you feel better. Were you insulted? Not at all. Not at all. Where's the parking situation over there? No problem. I took it over. I don't know. Look at the way you roll. Oh, man. It's only like 28 minutes from my house. That's how many miles is it? Don't tell me minutes because LA, the minute, no, you just got it backwards. Don't tell me the miles. me the minutes because everything Beverly Hills I could go six miles away. Okay. How fun. Did you you went over to Craven Cottage over in London last year? I mean, you're catching the fever a little bit. You enjoy the sport. The time of the sport, you have to admit, there is a lot of appeal to that, that the whole thing is two hours. I want you to admit that. That's a hundred percent part of it. There is and this is why the hydration breaks pissed me off a little bit because the viewing experience of this sport is so superior to anything else that we have in American sports. The NCAA tournament has been bastardized. I mean, there's times where you're watching an NFL game and you're going, what has happened here? I was watching Red Sox Yankees last night. NBC came back while the ball was on the ground at the front basement. Okay. And then Jazz is getting tossed. And there's a foboons coming out. It's on because of a Czech swing where Jazz clearly went. We're in commercial again. We're working. So every time, like, and I've made this rant before because we're coming back from place, there was a Rams play in the regular season that I remember specifically, like, we came out of commercial and the ball was in the air to the back pylon. And I did a rant. And then it was even weird because somebody who worked at Fox is like, you're really upset about this. I'm like, you're really defending. You're in favor. Like, you're rooting for the extortionist here. Like, why are you defending coming back mid-fucking action? Yeah. So you throw on the beautiful game, Frank. And you go, this is unbelievable. Like, even when they're resetting and kind of getting themselves gathered, the game is still going on. I don't have a problem with extra time anymore. And the reason I brought up the hydration break is that imagine another amazing viewing experience sport, F1. I don't have as much time for it as I'd like to. I still like it. If there's a race on doing something else can look up. What if you told the guys like, Hey, after 20 laps, we're all just going to pit for like five minutes, make sure you guys are good. And yeah, we'll run some ads, but it's not a commercial break. And it's, it's funny with the growth that these other sports, not that soccer hasn't already been positioned number one globally the entire time. Like, you just know all of the people like, is there any way we can get more commercials into this thing and they're not ruined it. But, you know, they American eye optimization here. Yeah. Like, all the British, by British buddies, they all keep saying, you guys want to have four quarters. That's why we're doing these hydration breaks because you got, you know, the first one, then you got half done, then get the third one that they said, we're trying to figure out out of four quarters in a soccer match. But you know, it's funny. If you look at the WNBA and the players all complaining about the officiating, so now what they do in the WNBA is to call everything. So their games, which are 40 minutes, are now going to 20 to 30 to 45. Think about that. That's not like, you can't, that's not the way to go. You got it baseball to their credit to the good job with the, with the pitch clock. Those games tend to move. I think that's, that has, to me, that has a lot of appeal. I like the, we all love the NFL, but there's so many darn breaks in the NFL. It drives you nuts after a while. How many times they're in commercial? I get it. It's a huge television sport. But, you know, I don't like the hydration breaks at the World Cup. I just think, especially the games that are being played indoors, where the temperatures control. They're going to need it on Saturday and Sunday here in Philadelphia and New Jersey because it's going to be brutally hot. It's going to be over 90 degrees. But the hydration breaks are all created by FIFA to make money, which is all they do over there. They print money, basically. I don't, I'm not sitting here like going over the hydration breaks that big of deal. I want to move on from it because I want to ask like out of the group stage here. It is, it's a bit like a CBA negotiation where you go, well, hey, making 57 percent instead of 60 percent isn't that big of a deal. Hey, making 53 percent instead of 50 percent isn't that big of a deal. Well, you're at 48, 49 and a half percent. But that's like 50. It's not really that big of a deal. And it's like, no, no, this is, this is the disease. And you're rooting for this. And as much as I love the NFL, I have Sundays where I'm like so excited about one of the Sunday night game. And if this has nothing to do with NBC because it's every single network that has any of these products on the television, you're like, there's an emotional like on off that happens where with soccer, you're always a little like, there's not that emotional disruption because there's no disruption to the game. And that's why it's a great product. And I hope that it's not messed with too much. Okay. And I think they've done a good job with the officiating because when guys are going down, the players are not kicking the ball out so the player could be attended to. The referees, especially in the first half, don't seem to be calling a lot of fouls unless it's egregious. So a lot of times you just see the referee saying, get up and keep playing. And I think from that standpoint, it's been good. I like the idea of on the throw-ins, they're telling guys to speed up same thing, but the goal kicks are the corner kicks. They're trying to eliminate a lot of the stall tactics, which are good. I think that part of the Americanization of the sport I think is actually good because there's way too much of that nonsense. It's a lot of gamesmanship, but I think it hurts the sport. So from that standpoint, I think the way the game's been officiated has been really good. I'm not educated enough on it to say, yeah, I totally agree, but I'm noticing less of the stuff that used to bother me about the game. And I even look back to, I figured which game it was, where's Reims called for the yellow card, and then they go back to, they look at it and it was a clear flop. There wasn't even any contact whatsoever. They reverse the call, give the guy the yellow card, and I'm going, hey, there's way less flopping. And you're like, well, it's because of that kind of stuff, if they're going to start reviewing it, and you're going to get a card. So I think the sport is heading in an awesome direction. Our last thing here, just out of who do you like here, and where does team USA fit in? Yeah, I mean, it's hard not to see France winning. They're just a dominant team. I still think Portugal, kind of like what Italy's done, where they get through the group and everyone's like, ah, they're not playing that well, but Portugal has enough talent where they could go on a crazy run here. Now, unfortunately for them, they would eventually have to run into Spain and just to get to a final, I'm pretty sure of this, they'd have to be France. So that, that part, I'm pretty sure I'm right about that. No, no, no, it's be the US they could eventually play. I think the US is going to go pretty far. I think they could, I think they'll, they could be Bosnia, Herzegovania. Good chance they played Belgium. And I know Belgium took care of them back in March, I believe, they played in Atlanta, but Belgium hasn't been that impressive. The US is good. They look sharp. They, I mean, they're athletic. They got a lot of strong players. I mean, plastic when he does play is so dangerous on that left side of the field. Man, he is, he's been terrific. And I think their backline, which didn't play against Turkey, they arrested those key guys. I think they'll be back. I'm a little word sometimes about the goalkeeping. He's not great with the ball at his feet. And then I'm a huge burr holder guy because his, his mom is from the same town as I'm from. And I think you could tell that he's the son of a coach. And you could tell that Puchotino loves him. I don't think he's going to start, but he's going to be a big part of it. I was happy for me. I had the assist on the first goal. Then he scored the second. I just think they're primed. They're in a good situation. The draw is set. I keep reminding people when Serena was supposed to be in her last ever tournament at the US open, the draw was set up for her to get to the second week. The draw is set up in the US to at least get, I think, to a quarter finals. And we'll see what happens if they have to play Spain reports, but won't be easy. Frank, I solo every morning NBA radio starting lineup, have warned hit me up anytime, man. All right. You're the man, Ryan. How many, how far does Sophie right now? Look, how many minutes? 15. I'll have to text you later. All right. 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So you can't just be golfing when it's cloudy. Thinking you're all good. So what do you wish? Scotch. Scotch Irish? Well, no, actually, I used to think that's what I read up what Scotch Irish is. I'm like, all right, just because of Scotch Irish, does not make me Scotch Irish. It's like a very specific path of people. I think so not that you don't not sell that. Yeah. When it's a Scottish Irish English, yeah, kind of the whole area over there. Hmm. Not a great World Cup showing for the skies. Little French too. Yeah. Well, it went wrong to read alignment. Oh, they can't score. Yeah. That they can't score. All right, let's get some emails here. This one's a little long, but I don't know if I want to start with a long one like this on Monday, but we're doing it 38 years old six to 180. Not a lifter, but I work out hitting the rowing machine can do 15 strict pull-ups. Damn. I got a touchy situation in more ways than one and need the brain trust to analyze all angles here. My girlfriend early 30s and I've been together for two years to love each other in a marriage expecting relationship. How do you guys know, man? How do you know when you're like in it? I'm not resisting it, but like, when did it when it click for you, Steve? I hate to be the cliche guy, but you just kind of know like you just it's a feel. You know, I don't know that there was ever like a day where I was like, Oh, this is like, Oh, I can marry this this girl. It just made that was over a couple of hints dropped. And then I started thinking about that too. I mean, I had the time while I was pushing on not by me, but I love this TV. By the fifth hit, it's like, all right, we might be in a shit or get off the pot scenario here. Yeah. You were like hints, huh? Yeah. Who does it? How soon? Maybe like four years, three years. Yeah. That's about the same for me. Oh, less. Wait, you were, you were two, you were two years in Steve and you never once it wasn't talked about. Not that it wasn't talked about. It was more of like I, she was probably going to set the timeline more than I was. I was just happy to be like, Hey, man, we're things are great right now. Like, well, you know, we could just think I messed with the format to get married. We never do it. You never like him. Like, okay. And you know, she wanted to do the ring shopping thing, which is fine because I actually saw somebody going to rant about ring shopping. And I completely disagree with their premise. It was saying like essentially that like it's stupid that you should just buy the ring and she should just deal with it because you bought it. And I'm like, actually, I don't know. You want to buy or something that she's going to wear and like can be a part of this process. So anyway, that that was a quick side. It doesn't really matter. But yeah, like she, she kind of pushed the ring process initiation and then, you know, the kind of time I wear. I would probably drag my feet from the like two years. This doesn't mean I didn't want to marry her or what didn't love her. Like, was, wasn't ready. It just, I don't know. I think that's just dude sometimes. It is just dude sometimes. We'll come back to the email. A bumper sticker. Yeah. We're out of wedding a couple for a couple of her friends. When one of her other friends, let's call him Chad, got a little handsy with her for context as a large group of college friends, ten or so, plus significant others, although it's mostly guys in the core group and they are a bro e group. Most of them all have steady partners, including Chad. It was recently married. We don't live near any of them. So we don't see them off often. Unless it's at a wedding or with just the girls and they're significant others on a one time a year subgroup trip. Outside of the girls, I've only met these guys now twice. So this is the second time meeting the dudes. College group two. Just, just let me know to our email or like, there might have been some crossfire. All right. Over the course of the evening, Chad was repeatedly paying all caps a lot of attention to my girlfriend. His wife was not there. She had a separate wedding. I routinely come up to my girlfriend while she and I were dancing next to each other and dance in front of her to get their attention or make silly faces in front of her literally put his arm around her and talk to her all while I was a few feet away and would completely ignore me. She was also happy crying during one of the speeches. And while I had my hand on her back, he came up and put his arm around her shoulder to comfort her while you were touching your wife or girlfriend. This is like a friends episode or something. This happened no less than 10 times. And every time I said nothing on the 11th time, I stormed off to the bar, but she didn't notice. I came back and literally two minutes later, he walked over to her, put his finger on her chest and tenderly branded up her chest to her neck. Supposing a game where you try to get her looked at, etc. Although this was more intimate. At this point, I immediately stormed off to the bathroom. So this guy's a real, I'm out of here guy. He's trying to make a couple of like stories about the safety of others here. Maybe he's a real badass and he's just, uh, you know, 15 pull-ups. Clearly this other guy doesn't think he's bad. He's just no match for me. I always support on you. Does he know about the 15 pull-ups? All right. So at this point, she finally realized I was upset. She apparently pushed his hand away, although I was already turned in leaving. I explained how furious I was and she understood, but she was a little defensive about it, saying that Chad didn't mean anything by it. They never do. After some heated back and forth, she finally went and talked to him, said what he did was unacceptable and asked him to stop touching her from now on. He then apparently apologized and said he'd be willing to apologize to me if and when the time was right. Here's the thing. I hate this guy now. And I probably always will. And the frustrating thing is my girlfriend thinks, although it was wrong of him, he didn't actually mean anything by it. A view also shared by the only other person my girlfriend told, let's call her Rachel. Well, of course, Rachel was going to take her side. Yeah, come on. So they had no chat. That's just the way Chad is. Yeah. All right. I of course disagree. You know as a guy, when you recognize a guy hitting on your girl, that was 100% this. Nothing was going to happen or even has or would between them. All right. Some good cleanup on an earlier theory. Okay. But he was definitely flexing his dormant flirt muscles shamelessly in front of me over and over again. I need your help with several things here. One, Rachel was getting married in a couple of months and Chad will be at that wedding. How much room do I have to not go to the wedding? My girlfriend would be pretty upset, but my mind she would be if she should be upset at Chad for poisoning things with me. Number two, Chad's wife might be moving to our city in three or five years. Hey, how about we, let's just see where we're at in three or five years. Yeah. Let's take that one. That's a future. You problem. Yeah. I'm worried. His parents for the medium area. Come on. His parents live here and they're supposedly planning to move here in that time frame. I told my girlfriend I probably won't ever want to hang out with them or even see him. Unfortunately, she considers a very good friend and envisioned us being, quote, couples friends once they live here. You guys are doing a lot of planning here on the point two. Let's not worry about it too much. It's a long time too. Yeah. She can hang out with the two of them together. What if Chad has seasoned tickets to like the nicks? He's really matured. But this guy's just already saying I'll never hang out with them. She's extremely unhappy and says that she's devastated. And if I wouldn't be able to forgive him, how do I handle them potentially moving here, too? Of all the problems we have every day, the why are you scheduling three to five year potential scenario problems? Sounds like Chad might be moving about. Fuck his whole life up at three to five years. If this isn't what happens when he goes to weddings so low with everyone who knows him. So who knows? You know, he might just, you might have a fault. Chad is by that. It's not each other. He's fine. Yeah. I just want to emphasize to our emailer here, you're already coming out of this wedding with some confrontational heat. All right. And it none of it's your fault. Maybe you should have just said something before time and said, hey, Chad, fuck off. You're six, two, you're doing 18 pull ups. You know. But this number two thing, I don't know if this is a window into the rest of the way you process things. Why are you arguing now with the woman that you want to marry about you doing a full Chad boycott in five fucking years from now? We're talking about 2031, you're arguing about something today that may not even happen in 2031. I want this point to be clear to the emailer. That is a waste of time. All right. Point number three. I'm also annoyed that my girlfriend isn't situating that I should forgive him. She hasn't outright said it, but she's defensive of his intentions. Why should I be forced to do the emotional labor to forgive him? Well, I can't he be forced to live with the consequences of a nose actions, which is burning any possible future couples friendship. Number four, I told my girlfriend that I hope Chad's wife finds out and she rather earnestly said, quote, oh, I'm sure he'll tell her. But there's no way Chad will volunteer this to her. And if he did, he's not telling the full story. I don't really know her, but do I message her somehow? No, no, no, no, just get that right out of the way. I mean, here's the thing is like you're you're clearly in the right here. So you feel like you're taking crazy pills. I mean, put all three to five years stuff aside. You have every right to be mad at Chad. Your girlfriend is being way too cavalier about this. And like, here's the number one test case situation. Like if his girlfriend saw this and found out about this about this, guess who wouldn't be cool about any of those actions per so you're correct. But you can't like talk yourself and work yourself up into this like huge anger situation where I, you know, I think it's totally fine to put the boundaries with Chad to be like, hey, I don't want to hang out with him. Like the guy sucks. He's he clearly there's something going on. And I trust you, but I don't trust him kind of thing. But I think you can't really be too accused of of of your significant other. Like that's going to just bother that's going to mess up our view in the immediate future. And if you really like this girl and she you you trust her, you obviously think that this isn't going to be a thing that's a problem. I think you kind of got to be a little easy on her. But the Chad hard line thing to me is totally fine. I think you've got to put your foot down. But don't worry about the three to five year thing. That's insane. Yeah. The problem here is like you, you kind of started a cold war, but you have no allies, right? I mean, I don't know if that's the right. You're like, I'm not going to fix this. Fuck that guy. You're basically saying like, I'm not going to go to any of these other things that that you guys are having. And maybe you get past the wedding. Age and it's like listen, it was a flurry of weddings over four years. You didn't go down the last bunch of them And now now it's just these trips that they're taking like you might not actually if you hold this thing If you hold the line and you decide I'm not going all this other shit, you know Maybe by the time everyone's thirty five or thirty six are all married and you're not even gonna have to worry about this Stuff except for these girls trips that they take whatever But I think really what should happen is you probably you probably the next time you see him you just you say the things that Should be said whatever I mean you got time to think about it. You're definitely a thinker But like to just say like you know He should know that like he should live with the consequences of pissing me off that he's never gonna see me or my girlfriend again Like it's just know what everyone else is like that's just him They have the shared bond that you didn't come into and you probably feel a little uncomfortable about it But there let's gonna take a little bit more for them to drop him Especially even your wife to drop him as a friend because you're uncomfortable What you should do is just get the shit off your chest in a in a way that you know You feel good about because you it sounds like you think he just isn't gonna have any consequences And he doesn't think he hasn't constantly consequences anymore either because you kind of withered away and you know It'll probably work out better for him if you just didn't go to anything that which you know They're just guys that's a win for you like I just you just know the guys who are the college with it's like Oh, you know, it's so and so he this is just the way is and it's like well That doesn't mean you can be an asshole and just for everyone's girlfriend be a huge tool just because that's the way you are That sounds like who chat is and so we like and and the sucks the shitty thing about that is usually girls kind of like that guy He's I don't know for whatever reason. It's just like hey, I don't know. He's like he's for it with me or I maybe he'll feel good I don't know who cares Matt. Yeah, yeah dancers fucking dance 100% of good dancer 100% and we'll never ever turn down an opportunity to do some sort of dance Yeah, the guys watching guys perfect in her dorm room the guys that are good dancers at weddings red flag Immediately a red flag for me really immediately reflect good dancers Kyle like good at it. Yeah, hate him graceful Grace floating floating out there. Yeah, yeah, hate him Yeah, I just I think the bottom line is everyone wants this thing to get better and you're the only one who doesn't want it to get better and If you're if you're staying in this weird no man's land I just think you're gonna come off as the lose not like people think you're a loser But you are gonna be the one who loses in this scenario. You're gonna be the downer friend. I have I have it You're the wet blanket wife, which you know, that's a bummer Yeah, wait, what was the first thing though? He so he doesn't want to go to the next event He said he doesn't want to go. Yeah, he doesn't want to go to the next wedding And now your wife is like great So I'm gonna have to go solo to every one of these things now because you got a weird move. I don't think that's the move Yeah, first of all let's look rapid fire Go to the wedding It's one guy to wedding. It's one other guy to wedding. I can't tell if Chad is Unthreatening unthreateningly is that right word? Yeah, I got neutral looks wise or if Chad's hot Does it change your thought what if Chad's hot? My first thought was he was the first one that he was neutral He's harmless neutral hot or harmless neutral not ugly, but just like a normal guy. Don't worry about it the average bear. Yeah Okay, I don't know I think you might be right there go to the wedding the three to five year worrying about having to go to brunch He's the biggest waste of fucking time. Maybe ever I Can't believe you're arguing about this now. You're annoyed that the other Rachel banged him. Okay Yeah, Rachel get nothing Rachel says is really don't message his wife. Yeah, that's probably the biggest no Yeah, you're you're you're right to be upset But I don't know if it's that you're overthinker. I don't know that if if it's like this email is gonna be like Yeah, thanks guys thanks to the help, but like are you emotional about these things? Do you have an emotional reaction a lot of sometimes being emotional can be unbelievable? Especially if you're into the theater, but there are times where you being to and I'm not even talking about the email right now is like you can be Just exhausting yourself being emotional about all these different things like there's times where I haven't liked somebody And then I'm like you're spending a lot of energy. I'm not liking somebody where the reward be don't even think about the person and You're far better off and then whatever like Thing you're thinking about, you know, just move the fuck on this guy's not even in your day-to-day life He doesn't live in the same city. You want to marry your girlfriend. You said that you're been with her two years There's an expectation of marriage Make sure when you're walking through that threshold every day that that is taking care of More so than any of these Chad rulings. Yeah, and here's an actionable item next time you go I know you feel like an outsider. They're all you know, everyone's like probably a bunch of stories of like I'll remember this remember when Chad stole that cat from the Chinese food counter whenever like like They've got all these stories. Maybe you just make an effort to turn it on a little bit Be a little memorable with the non-chads of the group the other people I think if you if you don't feel like such an outsider this wouldn't stew so much So like maybe make it so you go to the wedding and next time you leave people like man You know, it was great. John was great. That would be useful. Yeah. Yeah, maybe make an effort to like feel a little bit more Chad Well, you don't even have to let that know maybe the third wedding. You're like, you know, I got a little thing going with Chad Maybe they talk to him. I don't know Yeah, yeah, don't don't alienate yourself. You might not even realize how how you're coming off So not that you shouldn't have a reason to be upset But that's there's a little action item for you at the next wedding. Be fucking awesome. Yeah Because that's way cooler than yeah, then being the standoffers dude. That's like oh cool Steve's not going to the wedding again Yeah, it's like well, it's a superpower. It's an unbelievable superpower. Go through the bad breakup I'm gonna sit in the corner. I'm not gonna talk to you. I'm gonna look. I'm gonna do all this different stuff. No, I'm gonna be awesome Mm-hmm. I'm gonna be the opposite of those things Everyone's awesome. I'm gonna be confident. I'm gonna be unfazed. I may be crying in an Uber at 2/30 in the morning Leaving people don't have to see that though, but yeah, but you're funny. That didn't happen John's John's offering an IPO. He's so hot right now. This is a new IPO on John. He's kicking ass and I want in We have a Zag on the driving ball Driving ball driving range driving rate. Um, okay Okay Six foot 175 18 handy cap frequent frequent driving range visitor as I've decided this year I'm gonna get good at golf. We're talking at least one or two visits a week as a matter of fact I even have a punch card which I'm not bringing up to brag, but also definitely bringing it up I like that you brought it up. It helps us paint a fuller picture Check it out. I'm gonna Zag on the group's defense of the Jack golf guy. Yes, he absolutely should have lied about taking the balls Oh, shouldn't have Jesus Where's the changes everything? All right, so yes, he absolutely should not have lied about taking the balls once you're caught right hand It's trying to run a cover stories a tough look at the bigger issues this if someone leaves a pile of balls at a Driving range stall and there are no clubs no bag no towel no visible evidence of human life remaining at that station Those balls have entered the public domain and are free to claim my driving range routine includes a quick Reconnaissance mission on the walk from the parking lot to the pro shop about half the time I find a van in balls People buy the jumbo bucket get tired halfway through and decide they've seen enough for the day I'm not a complete savage about it. Make sure there are any clubs nearby I always ask the people in the adjacent stall something like hey anybody using these just to confirm I'm not accidentally committing golf ball grant Larceny only after receiving verbal clearance to I move in I've done this countless times I've never had a single issue. I see other people doing the exact same thing all the time. So while the jack guy definitely loses points for the lie I think we're overlooking the fact that unattended driving range balls with no owner in sight or generally considered fair game and a huge pod Fan of what's the route he's doing? He's built sorority in a way that I've never I've never seen That's with two hours. Maybe what what kind of a w in there? That doesn't that's not a zag That's not a fact. No, that wasn't a zag. Yeah, it's like do you lie when you're caught? No? Well, then we're not we're talking about two different things Be like well when I was at Wimble then well my racquetball club that doesn't these are the guy lied to our guy Last week's email was a flat-out lie That's what the topic was not can you pick up a few extra range balls of no ones around? Yeah, I'm not talking like your range balls are in the way. It's not like all the stalls are fooling like I didn't have a choice Come on. Yeah, and there's I know without knowing and I would bet a lot of money if there's no chance that this guy Went through any of the protocols that you laid out so like he just saw the opportunity took them and Yep, he was so come on. Yes, you are correct Generally, I don't think that applied to this to this specific guy. This guy seems like a tool All right, final one here son wants a neck tattoo 49 years old 510 220 bench press 275 basketball comp Khalid al-Mean Low to the ground game with sneaky athleticism. By the way. I watched a couple hard for videos on Instagram What's going on right now? What's going on? I've had so many people send these to me and I I I've never been more confused about the internet my life is it's a joke obviously, but I don't understand like why this happened So people are just like thinking they're like shooting videos in Miami being like welcome to heart for you know Living in heart for it's awesome. I don't I don't understand what's happening Wow, that's right up your alley then that's crazy. You haven't got me know you feel left out right now I haven't seen any of it. Yeah, it's so strange and then you watch a few I think it's even more so it's like hey, he just sent this to someone else. He loves this shit So then And now all I'm doing is getting inundated with Connecticut facts, Connecticut history, Connecticut sandwich places. And the most important is this weird trend online of people being other places of raving about how sick hard for Connecticut is. It's it's hitting so close to home. Okay. All right. I hope it keeps going. I want to get involved somehow. I feel like it's not ground floor, but we're the cousin next door with a blender that's like, I'll pick up a few shifts. I've never been more confused with the internet than these videos. I have I have five of them saved. So I'm just going to fire them off at you like they are just like a guy as a king of heart for Connecticut. Miami's little brother. I will proudly join Will Ferrell in Washington, Cromwell is a new Paris, like what is happening? Okay. And it's just a guy walking around a city that's not hard for I don't know. I don't know because I'm like, Hartford's on fire right now, except that it's kind of a joke about Hartford again, but I got an article the other day sent to me. It was said Hartford was the best real estate like investment. This is the next thing. It's hard for people that's been on that's best. They've been on top of the like the like hottest real estate list forever. I don't really know. I mean, my wife would probably know the answer to this, but yeah, they I don't know what that even means. So come on and explain it to us. This is a POV. You moved to New Haven in parentheses, the new Scottsdale and it's just a guy driving the mw around in a helicopter, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. Is there another region that's maybe doing this? Is there a Western PA thing and then the Hartford stole it from them? I hope not. I hope this all originated with Hartford. Well, at first I thought like was this a joke from what some of the other New England states, because like kind of it's kind of like the, I would say the, where's the New England states? It's last. It's like, oh, well, I would say if you pulled all the other states, it's last. And it's probably the one that they say is least New England, quote unquote, which I think is sort of fair because there's like a lot of New York people and New York's obviously not in New England state. But, you know, we don't have like a cool quaint town like poor Smith or poor. I'm headed to Danbury soon. Burlington. We're headed to Danbury. Why? Why? The mall. They got a lucky brand there. One of the last lucky brands I've ever seen. Jesus Christ Kyle. Okay. That's like a Derek and Tim explosion. Also, we don't have a Rita's Italian ice here. And I think there's one in Danbury. So we're going to, we're going to make it like a little something for her, a little something for me. I mean, why people are going besides you. My wife's halfway. I guess he counts. Oh, it's a wife trip. Yeah, yeah. As soon as you said Danbury, I just figured like the old Latin fraternity was going to get together. Oh, that, that was like, that was the move when I was in high school and I was like, I don't think I have Danbury money. I think I got to stick it to the Pekipsi Galleria. It's like, I know you guys are going to find your true, true religion genes at Danbury. But, so you are too, too, for Danbury and Darien are two different places. I just want you to know that. What? Danbury and Darryl. I think Kyle knows. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. That's what he's doing and he's, so just so we know, you are going to do like a day trip to Danbury to go to the Danbury mall because of one of the only places that has a brick and mortar, Lucky's brand. There's a couple other things that the Pekipsi Galleria is great, but I mean, it's waned a little bit and there's a couple, a lot more like arcades and stuff in there that aren't really my style. You know, if I'm looking for, I'm looking for a clothing refresh, I think we're going to Danbury. I think we're going to see it. We're excited. Dan. Yeah. Well, it's not a coast. Sure. Yeah. And we'll keep the audience up to date on all this kinetic content. What's going on with this neck? When is this happening? Probably soon, man. I mean, we're ramping down a little bit, two episodes a week, so I mean, I've got some time across the border. There. All right. Well, all right. So, a little mean over here, we'll bully ball the hell out of high school kids while they all pretend they are Steph Curry and Jack 53s a game. Love the pod. Listener since SVP Racillo days, Ryan's ability to make Kyle snort on the air laugh is the most underrated part of the show. Here's my dilemma. I have a 21 year old son thinks he has life figured out but has no clue on his third job in his last, in the last year, has a new plan every couple of months than ever sticks has potential but can't seem to put it all together for more than a little bit of the time. Love him, just trying to ride it out until he figures it out, which is going to take some time. He's definitely like a lot of other 21 year olds. Yeah. I mean, the weird thing is you can make it argument. It's like it doesn't really kick it until 35. I'm just doing that sick. I remember some saying that to me when I was 27 and I was like, oh man, I'm going to take it easy on myself, right? We're coasting for like almost a decade, so that's great. Came home, yes, he's still living at home again. The other day to him saying he wants to get a neck tattoo. I don't have anything against tattoos, told him something on the arm back leg, said there is this ideal, this is his first tattoo, oh, this guy's like losing his virginity and an Amsterdam. I tried explaining to him the pitfalls of a neck tattoo and why maybe that would be the best idea for his professional future. Just good told that I'm old and no one thinks that way anymore and he could be anything he wanted to be with a neck tattoo. Where on the neck it is, right? I love that. I can't. I can't do anything. I want to be. Especially. You would be in the past. Yeah. Yeah, I think it would definitely matter where and then how much ground is it covering. I think, I mean, without even finishing this, I think this guy should throw his body in front of it and just see if it sounds like he's going to move off it soon and maybe when he is 35, he'd be like, thanks so much for giving me so much grief that I didn't get that neck tattoo. I'm surprised he's still asking you if you can do shit at 21. Yeah. Good for you. I mean, you must be a good parent. I'm not asking you. So I feel like, you know, you don't have to, but you can't, if you live at home and still feel like you're, you're still feel like your child. I don't think it's a big stretch for the 21-year-old brain to be like, what are they going to say? I don't think that's a good stretch. Yeah, I know you'd be right, but yeah, to your point, Kyle, I mean, it's not a permanent thing, but I always think about like not getting frosted tips when I was younger and my mom, just because my mom wouldn't let me and I was like, that was probably a smart move. Thanks, mom. Appreciate it. She wouldn't let you get frosted tips. No. No, I'm not. Yeah. And I didn't, I couldn't get it. Just my mom was like, no, it's stupid. What do we mean? We're younger, though. I think I was in middle school, maybe. Oh, dude, honestly, she probably held you back. You probably wish that she did. I did. All right. Don't worry about me. Dude, you would have. I think we're middle school would have loved that. I don't think. And then you cut it off. But then you have it in the pictures and you're like, that looks stupid. You look like you want to be like, you know, who's supposed to look cool? Like everybody wants to be Don Draper and they're fucking school folks and they're just broke. This isn't what's going to happen. It's not going to happen. You got to style later on. I'm glad things cycle in and out, you know? Yeah. But no one ever looks at old photos of people going like, sick. That looks great. So your mom said no to frosted tips. Pretty much. Yeah. Are you the oldest? Yep. Kyle, do you get any nose? I feel like there's not a ton of nose on hair choices for you growing up. Like we went over this. I don't think it was frosted tips that I had, but this part right here was blonde at a point. Just that part. Yeah. I don't know if you got a point. Loved it. Lond, it was, were you like one piece of the time, Johnny Cash in it? Just a little spray, a little spray the next thing you know, it's, yeah, I think my brother did the frosted tips and I was like, all right, well, I don't want to jump on that train, but I'm definitely not going to be the only boy in this house without a little bit of peroxide. So I, so I just found my own way to do it, I think. Like that. So I did that quote, I did that, quote, oh, thanks. I did that for, you know, one cycle and then I got rid of it. I did a shaved thing on the side and just let it hang down. It was a very skateboard thing, even though I wasn't really skating at all. I was out of that phase, which was very short-lived and I remember my dad, let me have it pretty good. Did you want you to even it out and like bring it all down now? I think he just was like, you know, being the oldest, you deal with all of your parents' fuck-ups and parenting, their first run through, but I'd rather be the oldest and maybe get a little bit tougher than be the youngest than it's just like, hey, we're completely mailing it in with this guy. Yeah. So I don't regret it, but I can, I can look back to like, so I remember I had like a huge pimple on my nose once my dad was giving me a ride to like practice or something and he just started to, what are you doing eating chocolate? What's going on? What's wrong with your face? You know, because I was his first kid and I had some horrible pimple on my nose. And you know, it's like, I already am aware of the pimple, I'm going to be super bummed out about it. Girls aren't going to like me for a week and, you know, it's just the way it goes, man. And then the biggest presence in your life is just like, you're really fucking this up, huh? Yeah. Hopefully it wasn't school-touch or cross-examination. I know. I'm not looking, but it's not working, right? Hey, man, I got what's coming in. It's a weird time. Bring me along, you know, what do you want to do in the fucking canvas conversation? So what's up with your face? It's pretty aggressive. That's a dead comment. But yeah, yeah. Yeah, but he, he, he, he, he, he, he. What's up with your face? He, when I had this shade, he was more about like, who do you hang, you're hanging out with those musicians, aren't you? or something, I was like, and both of them didn't even like drink. I was like, I was like, I was like, I've got to work in a CD place and it's all musicians and whatever. I was like, do you think I would like showed up one day and went, I'm going to fit right in and look like Corey Glover from living color like that's, I'm just, you know, when you're going through this thing, especially when you're, you know, the lead blocker on life for all of your siblings, you, you kind of see like your parents react. Acting for the first time in real time, which the whole lesson of all of this is, I don't know if this is your oldest, I don't know where your son is along with this. I think there's absolutely an argument where 10, especially 15 years ago, we're like, that's the dumbest thing ever. Your kid's an idiot. 10 years ago, maybe a little loosening on that, which means that it probably is totally loose because I'm saying it's an older guy, same age as the emailer here. Cowherd had a segment all time. Don't get a net tattoo. It was a staple. It might have been in the first book, all right, one of his tenants. It was a really good segment, but I think that segment was over a decade ago. So you're right. Like you'll roll into some places like I'll notice people at high end things and they have net tattoos. Now is it high end to be a server forever? Do you want to work at the Louis Vuitton boutique and be that guy with an accent with a bunch of net tattoos? Does that mean you're actually moustache? You're actually moustache? Yeah. I don't know. But what does he want to do? I mean, if you want to work at Goldman Sachs, my guess is he's not working at Goldman Sachs, but yeah, he might not work at Goldman Sachs officially now if he's got some sort of Chinese symbol underneath his ear. Do you make him know for a bit here? Do you make him say, hey, like give me, give me somebody in all these interesting industries that have net net tattoos. You could find him. Who are you? I think you could. If that's the one thing, that's like an easy hurdle. I think this guy, well, if he puts his mind to that, he can find it. I like the idea of redirecting him to a different kind of tattoo that you're like, as, you know, the cool dad. I think you can rebrand yourself as the cool dad, you know, maybe you just start sending him options of like, you know, sick forearms and biceps and like, maybe just pepper his phone. Well, if you get the one here, like the kind of like little subtle behind a ear thing, which is a lot of soccer players have, I've seen dudes around. That looks kind of normal. You don't really even notice it, you know, if you get the lip tattoo on the neck, all right, probably going to be a problem for future employment situations. You just do the front hole situation. That's also probably a problem. But if you do something subtle like around, I don't know, I've seen ones that look cool and classy. I think this from what I've heard about the scout report of this son, I think his name, his mind could be changed if you just gently guide it in another direction. I think that's probably the easiest way. But yeah, sure. Where do you go reverse like college and start sending him all your favorite neck tattoos and make this one would be awesome. And it's like the most ridiculous thing ever and just kind of like make him think that you think it's cool. And then he doesn't think it's cool, after a while, to be like, should we get matching ones? Yeah. You want to scare the shit out of me? Like, you know, I'm off the whole thing. I'm off the whole thing. I just want to go back to being dad and dad and son again. I think the family could have fun with this. I think you could just decide to do like presentations. And he's sitting there with Ken Martin, James Johnson, the snowman, all these guys have done great. And you're sitting there with a picture like David Faber going say goodbye to this path, buddy. Yeah. There's no way he's not going to regret it later on. It's his neck. I do think that he's right that most people don't really care that much anymore. But there was a time to our emailers point, like, you're right. You know, this is going to be something he's going to regret. He is absolutely going to regret this. But there is not the same social recoil to a neck tattoo today that there was not that long ago. That's true. But that doesn't mean it's a great idea. It's the one thing I'll be trying to hammer into my son's head. It's like, if you had to get a neck tattoo, if you had to right now, gun your head, which I know is a extreme example of how you've ever end up with a gun to your head if you didn't get a tattoo, but play it out, game it out. Mid-hats and bridge right on the back of my neck. I will all pay for that. That's insane. Right on the back. Right. Poking over where the t-shirt crew neck would be. Yep. Easy. Get the trees in there. If we're going color, it's the Hudson Bridge in autumn. But we're just going regular tattoo color summer. I would do the, I would do the, like, hairline behind your ear situation with something. I don't know. Lightening bolt. Something flashing. Not a lightning bolt. I don't know. Right. I think you would have done that till I said, I don't know. What's the lightning bolt mean? I don't know. Is there a meaning behind it? I don't know. You can't be slow. That's true. Yeah. I'm sneaky slow now as we've discussed. I go Mark Twain House. Shout out to Connecticut. There you go. Located in. Hartford. What's up? Thanks to Tom. Thanks to Kevin. I'm sure you're still sports.