The Ilhan Omar Raid Mystery, Alex Cooper's Past Exposed, Selma Blair's Plane Meltdown, and Andy Ngo on Disturbing "Trans" Cult | Ep. 1417

Welcome to the Megan Kelly show live on Sirius XM channel 111 every weekday at New East. Hey everyone, I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome to the Megan Kelly show and happy Tuesday. Man, we have a lot to get to today. I don't know if you can see this on my desk, but like the piles of stories that I want to go through and they're all fascinating. I have to say the new cycle is juicy for lack of a better term today. In a little while, we're going to be joined by Andy Noe. He's an independent journalist. He's going to talk about his new book on a trans death cult. Probably haven't heard about this in the mainstream media. Plus, there is more to cover on the Cornell eight case. We did a little dive into the history of the sex podcaster, you know, the one who's so confused as to how we could be in this place 10 years after me too, and wait until you hear what we have found. Honestly, it is it is actually too graphic to air on a show like this where we are not horrors. We don't take money for X rated talk to our audience, nor does anybody tune into this program expecting to hear such a thing, but I am going to play you a couple of excerpts with a viewer warning and you absolutely need to hide the children because I have an answer for this woman on how we got here and it's going to require a mirror for her and other leftists like her who promote the most irresponsible messaging possible to young women and then when those young women fall into trouble, they scram. They run for the hills and who do they blame themselves? No, the men, all of the men, the men who believe these women are into the three thumbs or the four thumbs or whatever the hell else Alex Cooper has been promoting for years now as she's bolstered by people like Kamala Harris and Michelle Obama. As some sort of a female empowerment example, I don't think so. The answer is no. Also, today President Trump's new press secretary held her first very brief press briefing didn't go particularly well, but it was fine. It was fine. The mainstream press is completely hammering this young woman and they're just so nasty. This same crowd that told us that Korean Jean Pierre was the second coming that she was basically Winston Churchill has now got thoughts on how the new press secretary isn't quite up to snuff on her first 15 minutes in front of them at the mics. I mean, maybe we could give her like 20 minutes. Could we give her 20 before we pronounce her the worst ever and incompetent and unable to do the job? I don't know this gal. I don't know whether she is unable to do the job. I know 15 minutes is not enough to make an assessment and people are damn nasty. They're nasty because she's blonde. She's pretty. She's a Trump fan. You could say sick of fan. I would accept that based on what I've read about her. I know who cares? Do you think Korean Jean Pierre wasn't a sick fan about Joe Biden? Please spare me. She absolutely was never meant Jen Socky. Did Jen Socky ever tell us one word of truth? No, she ran cover for Joe Biden for all the time she was at that lectern. So I don't really want to hear it on these people who are upset that this woman seems to be more of a Trump fan than she does an independent journalist. That's not how you get that job. You're not there to tell the truth. Please stop at Pollyanna's. You're there to spin the media into reporting the best possible version of the president's agenda that you can get them to. And it's their job to be defensive against your manipulation and depress you and to look for real answers for the American. But that's how the system works. So stop, stop, you know, getting your panties in a bunch because it seems she's a huge fan of President Trump and has never said a bad word about him. This president wouldn't hire somebody for that position. Probably who had, I mean, the reports are that that's why it took a while because he kept finding people who had been ripping on him. I have trouble believing that to be honest because JD Vance had some very, very negative things about President Trump and he's the vice president under Donald Trump. So I don't know, but it doesn't matter who cares. The point is she needs a minute. She did seem nervous. We'll talk about it. I'm gonna get into all of that. Veterans days coming up and Birch Gold Group is commemorating it with something I think you're going to really appreciate. From now through October 30th for every $10,000 you purchase from Birch Gold, you get a free patriotic silver round. And there's no limit on how many you can earn. Birch Gold can help you convert your existing retirement savings into a gold IRA account without spending a dime in taxes or penalties. And you can even do it in in in whole or in part. 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I mean, she had a husband, last name Elmi, ELMI, who she was married to, at least in the eyes of the law. The law may not have known that he was her brother. She denies that he was her brother is her brother. I don't think I believe her. I don't believe her. Many people don't believe her. I think she married her brother to get him in here and to avoid too much immigration scrutiny. And if she did that, she committed a felony and she's in a lot of a lot of trouble. A lot of trouble. The feds raided her home yesterday morning in Washington D.C. pulling documents and who knows what else. They did not raid her home in Minnesota. We don't know why. Could be they couldn't get a judge to sign off on a warrant because Minnesota. Or it could be some other reason that I don't know. But they did raid the home in Washington D.C. And honestly, they can continue this far as far as long as they want. But if this guy's her brother, they're going to figure that out. You tell me, if you were accused of marrying your brother in committing immigration fraud and you had not married your brother, wouldn't you just submit a DNA test? I mean, this isn't Breitbart calling and asking if she married her brother. This is the federal government saying you committed immigration fraud and you can completely exonerate yourself if you proved to us that wasn't your brother. All you do is get a cheek squat, swab from him and from you. Very, very simple. Any one of these DNA companies could do it. We won't need that because we have the FBI in Quantico. They'll figure it out in about two minutes. So we are going to know if that's the basis for this criminal probe, we are going to know and we are going to know quickly. And she will not be able to defend if in fact she married her blood relative and claimed he wasn't. So that's very interesting. Now we have pulled some of the facts around the marriage to the guy who's allegedly her brother. And I want to say there's a couple of different things here because she also was subjected to a campaign finance probe that began under Joe Biden. And we don't know whether this whole thing relates to that. We just don't know why the feds rated her house. But we're going to find out. And here is what we know about the alleged marriage to the brother. All right, we're going to go to the reporting of Scott Johnson. He wrote for city journal. And this is what he reported. He said that this is years ago. Where did the marriage rumors originate from? And he reported the following. This is the guy as far as we can tell who broke this whole thing. A posting on Somali spot discussion board alleged that Omar had married the man touted as her husband in 2002 before marrying her brother. We told you about this yesterday. She had a religious ceremony in 2002 with this guy whose last name was Hersey. And then she had her three kids with him. But then she had a legal civil ceremony to get married. The first one was invalid in the eyes of the law to this guy Elmi, ELMI, a few years later. And Elmi is the alleged brother. So there was this the and religious ceremony. ceremony in 2002 to the guy who was the father of, would become the father of her three children. Then in 2009, there was a legal civil ceremony to the guy we think may be her brother. She denies, which I mentioned. The post that journalist Scott Johnson saw on Somali spot, which he'd been tipped off to, he wrote, "Seems to have been withdrawn by someone from Minneapolis's Somali community, not withdrawn, written. But it was then quickly deleted." By the time it came to my attention, he writes, "The post was only available via a Google cache also now deleted." Now he said he reached out to the Omar team to ask whether she had married her brother. You know what the story was? He submitted written questions to representatives of the Omar campaign, citing the Somali spot posed and asking whether her second marriage had been entered into with her brother, for just honest purposes, meaning to avoid the immigration laws. That same afternoon, I received a message from Omar's press contact, indicating the campaign would get back to me, but didn't. But I did receive a response from a Minneapolis criminal defense attorney, Jean Brandel. It provided no answer to my question and implied that the question itself evidenced bigotry against Omar and her candidacy for public office. Now honestly, it's very easy to answer this question. You just say, "I didn't marry my brother. I deny that." And if you print that I married my brother, I'm going to sue you for defamation. And you're going to look very foolish when I submit a blood test proving that you lied and you behaved recklessly in printing this. That's what you would do if you were wrongly accused of marrying your brother, isn't it? Anybody who printed that you had married your brother would be on the wrong end of a very, very evil, angry, I should say, lawsuit. When you are evil and slapping you with a multimillion-dollar damages demand, that's never happened. She has not sued anybody who has alleged this about her, at least that we know of, and it would have made news. And as I pointed out to you yesterday, when the Minneapolis star Tribune, which has been running cover for Democrats for decades, especially for Tim Walls and his trans agenda, when they took a deep dive into whether Ilan Omar had married her brother in 2019, they published the following. We could find little publicly available information about Elmi, that's the brother, alleged brother. The search of records could neither conclusively confirm nor rebut the allegation that he is Ilan Omar's sibling. And they wrote about trying to reach Omar's spokesperson, Jeremy Sleven, about the issue. They said he issued a statement on Friday, again, this is back in 2019, asserting that the questions about her personal life are illegitimate. Here we go again. What happened to the reporter, Scott Johnson, he was told by a defense attorney, sicked on him by the Omar campaign, that the question itself evidence bigotry against Omar. Now we have the Minneapolis star Tribune, three years later, that's got Johnson report was 2016. Now this is 2019 and the Minneapolis star Tribune's taking a hard look. And what are they told? These questions are illegitimate, quote, since before she was elected to office, Ilan has been a subject of conspiracy theories and false accusations about her personal life. Emboldened by a president who openly treats immigrants, refugees and Muslims as invaders, these attacks often stem from the presumption that Ilan, like others who share these identities, is somehow illegitimate or not fully American. Well, that's not exactly a denial, but it is somebody pretending to be super angry that you're even asking Minneapolis star Tribune. The star Tribune was not able to confirm or deny, dispute, disprove that she had married her brother and did point out that the star Tribune had sought to authenticate some of the most egregious allegations using public records and available social media posts and yet couldn't do it one way or the other. Now back to the report by Scott Johnson, a few years earlier. He raises reporting by alpha news. You guys remember alpha news, right? They've done great reporting in Minnesota, it's a Minnesota based news organization that's more fair and balanced. It's not in the tank for Republicans, but it doesn't hate them either and will do fair reporting on conservative issues. You can trust them and they were very, very fair when the George Floyd thing happened. They were honest about what happened at the police precinct. I mean, they've been great. Alpha news is great. So alpha news reported a woman named Priya Sam Sundar, she's the local reporter writing for alpha. This is as of 2016 and that's got Johnson report had found information suggesting that Elmi is indeed her brother quoting here, Omar's own Instagram photos from the summer of 2015 placed her in London with relatives and with a man later identified as off-med Nure Saeed Elmi. Soon after her marital history became an issue, however, Omar closed that Instagram account to the public. When the account became public again, the reporter Sam Sundar found that the original photo collage of Omar and Elmi was no longer there. Clearly Omar had taken it down. Some Sam Sundar also discovered that accounts once connected to Elmi had disappeared since the controversy over whether this guy was her brother began. Even linked in pages and Elmi's professional portfolio pages have gone missing. New accounts for Elmi have appeared under a different name and without his identifying photo. Based on her reporting, Sam Sundar believes that Omar's siblings include Ahmed Nure Saeed Elmi and Mohammed Nure Saeed Elmi, both residents now of the United Kingdom. Their social media accounts have referred to Omar as their sister. Sam Sundar found comments imposed by Omar and Elmi showing an intimate relationship. Now, we don't know, I don't think they mean sexual, like a very close relationship they appear to mean. Even after their supposed marital split, Sam Sundar put it to me this way, right? Scott Johnson. I think social media proves without a doubt that there is a familiar, familial relationship that is not that of a husband and wife. So that's the story, my friends, on the husband/brother. And by the way, I should tell you that the man she married was Ahmed Nure Saeed Elmi. That's who she married in 2009, Ahmed Nure Saeed Elmi. And Sam Sundar, the woman who writes for Al-Fanu's, believes that Omar's siblings include Ahmed Nure Saeed Elmi and Mohammed Nure Saeed Elmi. There is an Ahmed Nure Saeed Elmi who lives in the UK and she reported that his social media accounts referred to Omar as his sister. Okay. So she appears to have a brother named Ahmed Nure Saeed Elmi. Oh, and also a husband by that name. Oh, whoops. Is Doug secretly named Pete Kelly? Okay, then no, he's not my brother. I'm good. This is so ridiculous. I mean, it's ridiculous in that it seems quite clear she did it. And we've been like screwing around with this, not doing anything about it. For how many years now and how the left is all like, this is horror. The raid. It's the same as the raid at Mar-a-Lago, how dare they harass her. Wait, she fucking married her brother. That's how it looks. And broke immigration laws allegedly. That's how they got the warrant, we think. Now it could be a different matter, which I want to hit on before we leave the subject of Ilan Omar. The New York Times in January of this year, 2026, reported the following, that Joe Biden's DOJ opened an investigation into representative Ilan Omar in 2024 to scrutinize her finances, campaign spending, and interactions with the foreign citizen. The inquiry initiated by the U.S. Attorney's Office in Washington, D.C., and the department's public integrity unit in June of 2024, appears to have stalled for lack of evidence reported the Times. This is again from January 2026, or did it, did it stall for lack of evidence? Truly, query whether Joe Biden's DOJ was thirsty to track down Ilan Omar's misdeeds in the way they were Donald Trump's. The investigation appeared to be thrust into the public spotlight on Monday when President Trump blindsided department officials by posting a battered untruth social singling out Miss Omar was part of a rambling statement announcing a shake-up of the team overseeing immigration raids in Miss Omar's Minneapolis district that misspelled her name. This is what Trump had posted. The DOJ in Congress are looking at Congresswoman Ilan Omar. who left Somalia with nothing and is now reportedly worth more than $44 million, time will tell all. It was not clear whether Mr. Trump was referring to another investigation altogether, or how he arrived at the $44 million figure. Republicans have threatened to open an investigation in Omar and apparent effort to tie her to the Minnesota fraud scandal that has revealed evidence that some members of the Somali community set up companies that build state agencies for social services that were never provided. That's another possibility. I mean, that's her community. Does she have any role, some role whatsoever in the Minnesota Somali fraud scandal? No idea. No evidence has yet been produced showing that Ms. Omar was connected to the fraud scheme reported the times. A spokesperson for her office that they had received no official inquiries from the Oversight Committee at the House or DOJ. So there's that about, you know, could there be a Somali connection to the Minnesota community, or you heard the reference to the 2024, I think what that 2024 case was looking at. It could have been the Somali thing, because that's been going on for a while, though it wasn't as well publicized until this past year, or it could be something having to do with actual campaign finances, because she was also accused. This is just the third thing I'm going to tell you of misusing her campaign finance money to resolve certain personal finance issues, like she used it to cover legal costs from her divorce from Elmi. So in other words, the allegation in this star tribune piece in 2019 was that a Republican lawmaker had accused her of using cash from her state house campaign to cover legal costs from her divorce from her brother. I mean, her husband, Elmi, I'm British national, she had legally married in 29. The Minnesota campaign finance and public disclosure board cleared her in the divorce case, but the probe determined that campaign money was used for unrelated legal services pertaining to her joint tax filings with the other husband, the one she had the three kids with. She was ordered to reimburse 1,500 in legal fees and to correct her tax returns. So here's where it stands. She was, it appears, incredibly accused of misusing campaign donations on private expenses. She had to pay a fee and she had to revise her taxes. She was also under a DOJ probe after the fact as of 2024. That was 2019. Was it related to the Somali fraud in Minnesota? We don't know the New York Times article and the Trump tweet say precious little. The next thing we know, we have a raid at her house in Washington, DC and I've just refreshed for you the reporting over the years about whether it has to do with immigration fraud. So all of this is a long way of telling you we don't know what's going on, but do not believe the people who are saying this is a Trump witch hunt. This is a Trump administration and Biden administration witch hunt and indeed there may be a witch. I don't know. If she married a brother, so he could get here lawfully and spend five years in the United States without a visa, the proper visa, she's going to be in trouble. She's going to be in trouble and we wait to see what if anything they have. Here's Trump who waited on it yesterday and sat eight. To be totally crooked personally, but that has nothing to do with me. I think she's a terrible person, she's just a complainer. She comes from a country that is a non-country and then she comes over here and she complains about our contribution. I think she's a terrible person, but that's really up to the D.R.J. I have nothing to do. Okay, so we shall see. I believe he didn't have anything to do with it because he'd sent out that tweet in January, but he's been pretty quiet. I think President Trump is thinking about a lot of other things right now. A lot of much bigger problems than Ilhan Omar. I am looking forward to seeing how this concludes because once and for all, we should know whether she married her brother. Remember when Bernie Karek didn't get a top job in, was at the Bush administration because he had an illegal working as a nanny allegedly or a housekeeper for him, but you can marry your brother to get him into the country for free and nobody cares. I mean like, I think maybe people will care if that's what happened here. Stand by, have to wait and see. Okay, moving on. The new press secretary is named Katie Zakaria and she had her first outing today. It didn't go particularly well. I'll tell you who she is. It wasn't a disaster, but it wasn't like impressive. She is a communications advisor, was to the Trump Media and Technology Group, which runs his social network, true social. She worked briefly at Department of Homeland Security as a spokesperson woman for then Secretary Christie Nome. She is the sixth press secretary under President Trump, if you count term one, in term two. She's the fifth woman to hold the position. Our pal Sean Spicer was the only guy to hold it under Trump. Scaramouji was comms director, not press secretary. And I'll give you a little flavor for how this went. This is, this is, what's, can we play the first comments? She said when she got up there, Deb. Good morning. I am so honored to work for President Trump and the American people as a new White House press secretary. I want to thank President Trump for his trust that he has placed in me. I have wanted to work for him for a very long time. I'm looking forward to working with each of you as well, especially as we are in the middle of the midterm blitz with energy and excitement. Never seen before in the history of midterms, thanks to President Trump. Okay. I mean, it was fine. Part of it is the look. You know, she's got very heavy makeup on, she's got the long curls, she's got some chest showing with the tight. Like, I think she needs to dial it back. I'm just going to say, like, I know she's auditioning for a job on Fox News. They all are. Look at Dana Perino. She was too. Like, it's been a long line of Republican press secretaries whose real goal is to wind up on Fox News. I get it, but Roger L's would be the first to tell you when you are in a job in which you need to be taken seriously. He need to present as a serious person. And then I would say once she's earned the respect of the public and the press corps, she can sauce it up if she wants. She'll have a greater ability to do that and to be taken seriously, but right now we don't know you. And your first impressions are important and you should be the consummate professional in your presentation, which means dialing back the makeup, dialing back the over the top curls and the hair, and maybe covering up, covering up a little bit more underneath that suit jacket. You're not there to turn anybody on. You're there to look like a professional. And by the way, it's advice I've given to other officials, cabinet officials and others in the Trump administration. And I think some of them took me advice and were very well served by it. Obviously I have no problem with glam makeup or hair, not today. I don't really have any. But in general, I have no problem with it, but I do think you have to earn it. And she hasn't yet. So, dial it back, 20% less makeup, the sparkly eyeshadow, like just dial it back. And you'll get there with the American people if you are smart and credible. Okay, so a little stumbling because she was nervous, which you could hear and sought to. >> Second question for you, if I may, a personal question. Your family is in California, your husband, you have four children. I'm wondering how you manage, how are you going to manage that? Caroline left it left because she wanted to spend more time with her family. And also did she give you any advice on how to handle this job? And the people in this room? >> Well, first of all, I want to give my husband an amazing shout out. We have four kids ranging from 12, 10, 8, and 6, three of them are boys. So we have a handful. And I adore my family. I love them. They are my priority. I love being with my kids. The idea of not spending evenings with my kids is completely unacceptable. So my husband, excuse me, my husband, that's a good one. >> All right, so she's getting creamed for that stumbling mess of an answer. But she's nervous. And you can make the case that she shouldn't be the press secretary. Then she gets nervous in front of the cameras. But she'll get there. Trust me, like talking live on camera. is not as easy as it looks for most people. And she doesn't seem to have a ton of experience doing it. I think she was probably hired because she's attractive and she must have done a decent job behind the scenes at Truth Social and Trump was favorably impressed by her and believed that with time she could get there, but she's clearly not there yet, but give her some time. You know, the thing that's really galling me is the people who are most brutal toward her today. Are the very same people who truly wanted us to believe that Karin Jean-Pierre was one of the great orders of our time? No, not true. And by the way, she never grew into the job. Karin Jean-Pierre read from that stupid notebook every time she got up there and could not speak contemporaneously. And let me tell you what this gal was doing today. Katie, she was trying to develop that skill. She did look down at her notes, a fair amount, that's fine. But she was trying to speak off the cuff and she wasn't very good at it, but she's gonna get better. And the only way to get better at speaking off the cuff is to do it and stumble and maybe sound a little silly the first few times you've tried it. But if she is still at this job a year from now, she's gonna be way better at it. And there's really no short cutting that journey from A to Z. So I wish her well and I actually am very open-minded to her improving. Then I think the mainstream media should STF you. I mean, we literally have Brian Stelter out there ripping this girl. Would you please stop? It's a miracle anybody ever let you on TV at all. You know that. You only got put on TV because you wrote that stupid newsletter that like wrote up people's ratings and therefore you got some notice, but you know nothing. You were never a doer, you were always a watcher. You were always a sideline man. That's what's so sad about these media critics. You've never done, you've only watched. You've got lots of criticism from the cheap seats. And now he wants to weigh in on the job she's doing as White House press secretary. Please be quiet. Please be quiet. We'll let you know when we want to hear from you. And it will probably have to do with something completely other than a Trump press secretary. No one wants to hear your opinions on her. All right, one other thing, she did make some news while she was standing up there today. She made news that Kimberly Gilfoyle has been asked to step down as our ambassador to Greece. It wasn't a huge surprise. You know, if you listen to AM update this morning, you heard that President Trump yesterday said I'm not happy. And when asked if he was going to tell her-- if he was going to fire her, are you thinking about it? He said, yeah. And so on the heels of that, we got news today that Via Katie, that they had asked her to-- oh, we have it. OK, let's watch it. We have asked Ambassador Gilfoyle to resign. She has been a wonderful asset to the team, and we wish her well. There they go. So they've asked her to step down. And now we have the ex-post by Kimberly that reads, serving as United States Ambassador to Greece has been the honor of a lifetime. I'll forget forever be grateful to President Donald J. Trump and Marco Rubio for entrusting me with the extraordinary privilege, blah, blah, blah. For my first day as ambassador, I've worked tirelessly to advance Trump's agenda, blah, blah, blah. We've done all these wonderful things. I'm so proud of everything. These accomplishments are a testament to the president's bold leadership. All right, here we go. I also want to address the recent allegations against me. They're false, and I intend to vigorously defend my name, my reputation, my integrity. I've dedicated my professional life to fighting for justice, standing up for what's right, and defending the values that will make America exceptional. I will not allow false accusations to define my decades of public service, blah, blah, blah, blah. OK, it's all, you know, puffery about Trump after that. Now, the allegate, I mean, it's interesting that she's acting like this is like a, you know, a false sort of hit job on her, and it may be. But just for the record, it's the Wall Street Journal that has broken virtually all the stories. The Daily Mail broke at least one or two of the biggest stories. Those are not left-wing publications. And she's not being fired by President Joe Biden. She's being fired by President Donald Trump. The people who are accusing her of behaving badly work for Trump's embassy in Greece and work for, or were donors to Trump's campaign and our Trump boosters. So, you know, that's what this has come out of. And I very open-minded to her statement that she didn't do any of this stuff, but we'll have to see. Because right now, there is the possibility that Kimberly's not only facing the loss of her position as ambassador, but she could potentially be in some criminal trouble here, if the allegations against her are true. And again, she's denying them. So, we, again, reported on this this morning, but I'm just going to give those of you who didn't hear AM update, which you should totally be tuning into. It's a 15-minute, 19-minute news update show. We put out every morning to get you up to date on the day's news. Here is what they are reporting. Okay, first it started with this guy, Dieters. This guy, Dieters, is a Trump donor. He's a former congressional candidate who did not win. And he ran in Kentucky and gotten to the orbit of Kimberly Gelfoil and possibly some of the Trumps. And appears to have been trying to worm his way closer to President Trump through Kimberly. The allegations, broken by the Wall Street Journal, on October 7, include an alleged signal exchange in which she was about to testify for her confirmation hearing as ambassador. And she didn't, well, they probe everything. They look at when you're nominated for a post like this, they will look at your finances, they will make sure, you know, there's nothing anybody can use to blackmail you, that kind of thing. And apparently she had some debts that she wanted off of the books, reports the journal. And she went to, at least this guy Dieters, to say, please go pay off my MX to the tune of $100,000. Do it directly. You can, here's my MX number and the address. And I'm begging you to go pay $100,000 to them for me. He said no. And she was reportedly allegedly, according to the Wall Street Journal, promising to set him up with connections, bragging about how all of the cabinet secretaries take her calls, and that she could basically have access to any one of them. And this would be worth Dieters' while. He reports the journal didn't do it, saying, I'll have to get a divorce. He told her it would cost him his marriage. Quote, I can't do this without getting a divorce. The reporting was that she was getting ready for that hearing and that what she said to him was, quote, honey, please. I need you to get this done for me today. You could just send it here. She wrote on July 3, 2025, just days before her July 9, the confirmation hearing Dieters didn't do it. For months, she had been chatting with Dieters reports the journal, seeking, he'd been seeking her help and getting the administration to help him on some personal tax and legal issues. And he had promised Gelfoil payments of as much as $1 million if she was successful in helping him resolve these issues with the administration figures. Dieters said Gelfoil told him, if he came up with the MX money, quote, I will be your Trump ride or die forever and ever. End quote, but he said she never came through on anything. A lawyer for Gelfoil disputed the authenticity of the messages but declined to provide specifics. He said she had been paid to speak at events before her nomination and was owed a balance. Dieters said that as a lie, he owed Gelfoil nothing. She was seeking a favor from him in exchange for access that she was promising him to the admin. Dieters said his dealings with Gelfoil began in 2020 when he launched an event called Freedom Fest in Kentucky in response to the COVID-19 medical mandates. At that point, and in the years thereafter, he paid her $300,000 to speak. He had also given 200,000 to Trump Jr. 100,000 to Eric Trump and others. Her interactions with Dieters grew more frequent in the months after she was nominated as ambassador. She promised to lobby top Trump officials from FBI Director Cash Patel to AG Pam Bondy. Quote, "Every secretary you know of from defense, transportation, treasury, commerce, IRS commissioner, everyone gets right back to me," she wrote before adding the FBI Director. His name Misspelled writes the journal. Oh, yeah, I'm forgetting Cash Patel. Gelfoil also expressed concern about her dealings with Dieters becoming public and the effect that that might have on her ambassador post. She warned him repeatedly to not commit talk of money or payments to text. Eric, quote, "I really wish you would stop papering all these things," end quote. Just call me on signal. In January, 2025, weeks after that. the nomination she complained that Dieters had told a producer on her podcast about their deal. Quote, it's unbelievable when we have a private arrangement with you that you would now see see a producer talking about money. She said, do not say we have any arrangement. She added, quote, what a nightmare. You will literally cost me my ambassador ship. Stop writing. As her confirmation hearing approached, Gellfoil complained to friends that she was broke. People are familiar with the matter wrote last March when Dieters inquired about when she would move degrees, Gellfoil told him to stop asking, quote, I have a lot of shit to get done before then and I need to make money later that spring. She began requesting additional payments from Dieters writes the journal asking him to draft a letter saying he owed her to $50,000 back payments for consulting services. That's what Dieters told the journal quote, she was worried about legality. She was worried about the appearances of it. Then there was a report that there were two Greek business magnets who whose businesses she had promoted and the question is, why would an American ambassador to Greece be promoting the business interests of some Greek magnet and the allegation is that she did that because one gave her a private jet ride to Paris and one gave her a private jet ride someplace else. Maybe I can't remember Dubai, but the one in Paris and then the one allegedly paid for her hotel state, is it her hotel stay at George the Sank, George the Fifth, which is the fourth season, four season hotel in Paris. Now all of this, again, has been denied. You heard her touting her qualifications, but there is reportedly an inspector general investigation into Kimberly Gellfoil right now. That's problematic for her inspector general of the Department of State, so like the internal watchdog. The Daily Mail's reporting was more about alleged mistreatment of staff at the embassy. They report that three sources told them the IG is looking into allegations surrounding her potential substance abuse, use of private planes and helicopters, close relationship with an energy and construction company, improper gift acceptance, and more. The official IG probe was launched after internal complaints within the U.S. Embassy escalated to a breaking point. Sources in Greece tell the Daily Mail, there was a toxic workplace climate, the alleged that she's had workplace outbursts, according to sources. I mean, I don't know about any of these. This is like, they've got a quote in there that she threatened some embassy workers, fucking get it done or you're fucking fired. Well, I mean, so maybe they weren't getting shit done, like that, that doesn't persuade me at all. And honestly, whenever there's a female boss involved, you're going to get an article about how it's a toxic workplace. They don't do this shit to the men. They really genuinely don't, doesn't mean she's not, she's not capable of creating a toxic workplace. I'm not saying I'm just, it is a pattern, so take it for what it's worth in any event. There was a report that she had abused her security detail, a grandfather who was sleeping and she was drinking it for in the morning and she wanted him to come get her. She didn't respond because she was sleep, the Daily Mail reports next day, she demoted him. Her alleged early morning request was, quote, to fetch more ice cubes. This is what they are alleging in the mail. All right, look, here's what's really happening here. She may or may not have done these things. I have no idea. I'll wait to see what the OG says or the IG says, but the problem is when stories like this break in a cascade around any cabinet official, which she's not, or ambassador, which is a privileged position, usually given to massive donors to a campaign. I think we all know how this one came about, which wasn't exactly donations, but she was with Trump Jr. They were breaking up. She was with the Trump family for a very long time, very intimately at many, many private gatherings. And the next thing we knew, she was offloaded to the ambassador ship and Don Jr. moved on with his life and later married and fell in love with a lovely woman named Bettina Anderson. Now, Trump in any event, you cannot become a headache for the president. That's the bottom line. Any official who's in the cabinet or in the administration in any way, whether, even if it's an ambassador ship, but especially an ambassador ship, which is just like a plum job, you give to big donors, certainly don't want them to become a problem for you. It's like, what do you, like, at least a cabinet official is actually working for you. The ambassadors, I mean, I'll pretend they're doing something important, but we know what this really is. And she has been, like, I'm not sure this guy, Deeders, seems very pissed off. He created a bunch of problems for her and then once the dam has broken, Bob's your uncle. Everybody starts coming out of the woodwork if you've ever had a negative experience with them. So I look forward to hearing what she has to say about it. My experience with Kimberly Gelfoil is she's a survivor. She is a survivor. She's very clever, a smart gal. And I think if you were smart, you'd be betting for her to land on her feet. We'll have to wait and watch it. Now, as long as we are in the lane of media personalities becoming public officials, I've been meaning to get to this. It was a podcast called Uncloseted and Don Lemon went on it within the past two weeks and said the following, sat 18. I never say, never, it is, I've got a lot on my plate right now doing what I'm doing. This is not easy to do every day, but I have to be, I am very aware of the importance of what I'm doing, what it means to the culture and society. I shouldn't say very, sometimes I'm too close to it, but when I'm out there, people like, thank you for what you're doing. And so it's very humbling, but when I'm out there, they're not only saying, thank you for what I'm doing. That they say, would you ever consider running for office? And I say, well, you know, I thought about it and this, would you ever run for president? And I said, oh, well, definitely, I think I could be a better president than Donald Trump. So that's where that came from. How serious is it? If the people want me, I'll do it. But if that's the best way for me to help the American people, then sure, I'll do it. And maybe, you know, maybe I can do them at the same time, and maybe that's a way of running that has not been mined. Let me try and get a headline out of you. What percentage chance before you leave this earth do you think you will run for president? Oh, what percentage chance that I think I'll run? 6570. Wow. Okay, I'm going to shock you. I think you should do it. I actually think you should do it. First of all, it's not a deal breaker that he has spent his life as a journalist. I mean, you could absolutely parlay that into a career in public service. Second of all, do you really think Kamala Harris is a lot smarter than Don Lemon? Do you? I know she was at least a lawyer. She was an attorney general for the state of California. No, I don't believe so. Do you think Joe Biden was? I don't. Like, are we so enamored with our public officials now? We don't think somebody like Don Lemon could do it? Obviously, I'm not. I actually think, yeah, he could match Whits against AOC. Just fine. I don't think he could. And will he do it from his podcasting booth? That would be interesting to watch. All I can say is it would certainly give us a lot to talk about. So I encourage him and I'm rooting for him. He doesn't actually think he's going to win, however, because, well, he explains here on sat 19. Because I think that America is ready for a gay president or a gay black president. But do I think, as you ask me if I'm going to run? Do I think that it is the right time for that person to emerge and run? I'm not so sure about that. Considering what is on the line. I know the homophobia in this country. I know the racism in this country because I live it every single day. I don't have the privilege of being a white man. People will say if I just had the confidence of an unqualified white man. I could rule the world. Yeah, of course, I think that America would accept that and it could be. But I don't know if it's the moment to do it. So the country is not too racist and homophobic, except for the fact that they are too racist and homophobic so he can't. That's where we are. 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Update for you now in the case of the Cornell eight, seven men accused by one woman of gang rape, even though only four had sex with her. They all say it was voluntary and that she initiated it with the last two. She as well counts as one of the eight because she's been accused by the first male defendant of collating him while he was in and out of consciousness, which she seems to admit not that she was actively performing oral sex on him at the moment, but that in their bout in the bed together, he could not keep his eyes open. He continued to fall in and out of consciousness as she was having an interlude with him. There's a new report out today via TMZ citing one of the roommates who lived in the room in which the trist took place. We don't know his name and he's not one of the defendants. So this actually is new information. He and his girlfriend were apparently trying to get into that room on the night in question and were eyewitnesses to the state of Jane Doe. And so it is interesting to hear what they had to say when the university began investigating this case at Cornell. They testified that she was coherent. Jane Doe was when she was in the room, that she did not look to be in distress when she exited that same room in the wee hours of the morning overnight from October 19th to 20th, 2024. They also testified to, this is Jonathan Newell is defendant number two, the one who wrote the vile Snapchat post about free, you know what? And he was part of the first threesome and the second threesome and was blitzed out of his mind, which is probably why he was tweeting things like he was, not tweeting but posting on Snapchat. But he was the one who was dry heaving and couldn't really, he wasn't doing very well on that first trist. He was able to perform, but he was very sick. And she testified, she told the police that he was dry heaving and that she was rubbing his back. Well, now we hear from his roommate that when he went into his own room, Jane Doe was inside with Newell, who appeared to be vomiting into a bowl or a bucket. He said Doe repeatedly told him everything was fine and she was taking care of Newell. He says he felt like Doe was pushing him out of the doorway and not allowing him to enter his own room. She is now alleging even that interlude was rape. A guy came in a roommate and her alleged rapist is bent over vomiting into a bucket and she tells this new guy everything's fine. She's taking care of Newell and she's basically pushing him out of the room. I mean, true, this woman wants us to believe that this guy was raping her and this is what she did when somebody stepped in a roommate who had nothing to do with this and has not been accused in any way in this case. That's his testimonial, completely innocent of anything other than walking in and seeing her and being told basically to get out that she's got it and she's taking care of Newell who is clearly physically incapacitated or close to it. Not physically helpless. That's the standard physically helpless is what she has to prove in order to show that this was rape of her. She's not there. Now with guy number one who was passed out, you're there. This guy was just vomiting into a bowl, her alleged rapist and she looked at the entering second roommate said, everything's fine. Everything is fine. Repeatedly, he said and now I'm taking care of him. This is crazy, you guys. The next time he encountered her, multiple people were inside the room. He says she was fully clothed, lying in a bed and conversing with the other individuals in the room very clearly. He says she appeared to be speaking very coherently and on a one through 10 scale of intoxication, she was between a one and a two. Now whether she was or she wasn't, we know that she'd been doing some ketamine, all we really know is that she did, at least according to her, one line of ketamine off of this guy Newell's unit. The first bout of ketamine she claimed to remember in trisk number one prior to that is disputed and there may have been a third or if, you know, you go by the guy's count, a second line of ketamine later in the evening. In any event, he finally told them all to get out. He wanted the room for himself and he did tell the police that he left the house with Jillio Lopes. That's the third man with whom she had sex last night and his girlfriend. They went to McDonald's when they got back. The room was empty. He heard several of his frappe brothers the next morning when he woke up, involved in what he called the DJ, the referring to the roommate as the DJ, what he called a consensual act. The cops asked him what he meant by consensual. He elaborated that all four of the guys that had sex with her all admitted to having consensual sex with Doe. As for why the fraternity brothers felt it necessary to characterize sex with Doe as consensual hours after the party, well that's unclear reports TMZ. Let me clear it up for you. They were talking to police officers. Why would the police officers be asking you about your sexual interlude unless they were querying whether it was consensual? Well, it doesn't take a damn rocket scientist. He told police Doe never gave off a vibe that she wanted to leave the party at any point he saw her during the night and he saw her fairly late. The other witnesses, the DJ's girlfriend also spoke to investigators on December 17th over a month after Doe first went to the police. She said the girlfriend, when she got to the fraternity house after the McDonald's run, there were frappe brothers standing outside the room wondering what was going on inside. She was confused when she saw people are going in and out. She told police. She thought it didn't sound like something good happening inside. She said someone, presumably her girlfriend told everyone to leave. She saw Doe exit with four or five guys recall before the third interlude. Some of the guys took her to another room. She said two guys. She said it was scary because she didn't realize how many men were with Doe, but she said Doe did not look distressed. Doe did not look distressed. The co-ed told cops she was not concerned about Doe that night. She said her feelings changed as she heard more about Doe's account and then she felt kind of guilty for not helping her. She told cops there was no way of knowing something may have been a mess because Doe said the men were in the room with her all looked very calm. Sorry. She said Doe and the men all looked very calm as they left, adding it seemed consensual because no one looked visibly distressed. Just another piece of the testimony that is likely to come in about Jane Doe and how she was nowhere near physically helpless, which is the only way she can prove rape. Physical helplessness. If you are intoxicated or high out of your mind, you cannot say I was incapable of consenting if you are the reason you were that intoxicated. You can't, we've made a policy decision in New York state to not put male partners in that position where they then have to go back and relitigate consent that they did obtain from a drunk partner who then after the fact wants to say I didn't give consent because I was drunk. No, we've decided as many other states have in New York that if you are voluntarily intoxicated, you will not be able to raise lack of consent due to intoxication. However, New York and all these other states will say if your voluntary intoxication has gotten to the point of physical helplessness, you're back in business. So that is the only way Jane Doe can prove rape and this is the testimonial of independent witnesses like somebody's girlfriend who says she seemed fine. She didn't seem in distress at all way into the evening. When she left that room, it was in between trists two and three. She didn't, she seemed fine. The male roommates said she looked like she was maybe a one or two on the scale of drunkenness. She was totally coherent and not in distress. And by the way, contrast that with Jonathan Newell who is vomiting into a bucket and she is shewing people out of the room saying, get out. I'm taking care of him. Okay. This is not a rape victim. We raised the issue of the show called her daddy yesterday, which is a disgusting filthy podcast where this woman has gotten rich acting like a prostitute, talking about x-rated acts. I played you some of the sound bites yesterday giggling that 11 year old girls were listening to her talking about giving blow jobs and making it very clear that if you are unattractive in Alex Cooper's eyes, you need to give more aggressive blow jobs. If you're only a five or a six in Alex Cooper's judgment. You need to make an absolute pig out of yourself. That's her advice to young woman. This is the woman we're now looking to for female empowerment with Michelle Obama and Kamala Harris and Haley Bieber, many, many well known A-list celebrities go on there to be cool and it look like they're going to have like the cool girl conversation. And now she's the voice of a generation because she wants to talk about how you should swallow a man's semen. That's the level of conversation she's brought into the public debate. It is worse than even we knew because let me just show you something. Okay, she had on, she had the nerve, the nerve to weigh in on the Cornell 7. All I want to hear from Alex Cooper about the Cornell 7, 8, is she's sorry. I would like to hear an apology from her for leading God knows how many young American women down the lane that Jane Doe went into thinking that raunchy, disgusting, immoral, nasty behavior is going to make them feel better about themselves instead of worse. Because there's no one more directly responsible for filling young women's heads with that kind of nonsense in this generation than this woman who hosts this podcast. In my generation, it was sex in the city and Carrie Bradshaw, Sarah Gutsch, Jessica Parker and that whole thing. But in this generation, Jen Z and millennials were dealing with this woman. And she had the nerve to weigh in on the Cornell case by having on this absurd, absurd Cornell professor who fancies herself an expert in misogyny and push the bullshit lie about more than a third, a 30% of women on Cornell campus have been raped. These are lies are not true. Again, as Heather McDonald pointed out, the Detroit overall crime rate was 2.4% not many years ago for everything murders, car jackings, robberies, you name it, what are the odds that on Cornell and Ivy League University in just rapes alone, we're at 35%. These are lies. Okay. They push the lies, of course. I mean, you're not going to go there for facts unless you're an idiot. But the fact that she had the nerve to weigh in on it is what really got my go. And here is one of the exchanges that I found infuriating stock 25. It has been almost a decade since the Me Too movement first started a decade. How the hell are we still here? Right? We've been talking about campus rape, consent, the way institutions fail women for even longer than that. We've got the language, we have the research, we have the tools and the resources to understand sexual violence, to help survivors, and to prevent it from happening. And yet we are still having the exact same conversations. It is exhausting. And more importantly, it is infuriating, more than one in five women have experienced rape. One in five women. So every single one of us knows a Jane Doe. Many of us are Jane Doe. Okay. She's not a Jane. As I said yesterday, she's a Jane hoe. She's a Jane hoe. This is a performance that we're witnessing here because for this woman to look into the camera and say, how did we get here? How are we here? Is such a farcical job of acting she should be considered in the next Golden Globes nomination? Let me tell you how we got here, sweetheart. And this is where my viewer warning is coming, please legitimately remove the children. Do not let them hear this next sound bite. And I apologize to you in advance for playing it on my show. We have never played anything this filthy. I hope never to play anything this filthy again. I don't listen to this kind of thing. I know you don't either. This is not my idea of entertainment. I am playing this to show you who this woman is. All right. Do not let your daughter listen to her. This person should not be a thought leader in any way, shape or form. She is part of the reason we have young women so confused about how to behave. What's going to make them feel sexy? What's good for their ego, their bodies, their minds and their spirits? She is as guilty as they come when it comes to corrupting the minds of these young women and leading them down the path to hell. That is truly what she's guilty of. So again, please forgive me for the clip. It is incredibly disgusting. But Alex Cooper, on her show, not so long ago, it was 2019, had a little chat with her then co-host about a night of group sex that her friend engaged in. This is her male friend that she celebrated like it was Christmas morning and it sounded very similar to what just happened to Jane Doe, very similar. Take a listen. Basically, Milpunter was D.P.ing this girl with his friend and if you guys again don't know what a D.P. is, double penetration in the button in the D, we have to be the mouth. I mean, I think it really does have to be the butt and the D or two in the V or two in the butt. He's like, all right. And I said, like, hey, what are you doing tonight? She's like fucking you. He's like, well, if you want to come over, you need, I want to know, make sure you're down to have fun with me and in all caps, Josh. And she was like, absolutely, I'm on my way. My, my, my Mel, my jaw is Josh. She's like, here you go. Okay. My holes are ready. This girl obviously knows what she's doing. She gets down, takes his dick out, it's soft and literally sucks it hard. Josh doesn't know when to come in because I don't think Josh has ever done this. Okay. So, milk hunter gets on his goddamn fucking phone and text him and it goes, take out your dick and put it in our fucking pussy. So his friend Josh comes on over, takes his pants off and just starts railing this bitch from behind. They're all, they're fucking, they're switching positions. And all of a sudden their phones are blowing up. Their buddy is texting them in all caps saying, I'm ready. I'm ready. Tag me in. Tag me in classic. He is outside with his pants down, jacking off to porn on his phone, asking if she can take more. He said at this point, this girl had been taking it for so long, mascara was on the hardwood floor. Like this girl was taking deep throats to the back of the fucking throat, guzzling both men's come and she literally looks up at him with dick in her mouth and she was like yes. So the fucking other roommate gets in after male X comes and he sits down and starts getting his decks up. She is a pig. This is a disgusting filthy pig. And now she wants to lead a discussion about how we got here. We got here thanks to you and you're filthy pig mouth. That's how we got here. You unfortunately became very influential and very rich off of that disgusting whore talk. That's what you are to me. That's what you sound like in my opinion. You're a complete fucking poor prostitute. Nobody with an ounce of class in their body would ever talk like that on a show listened to by young women. Not to mention the 11 year old. You were perfectly comfortable with from the sound of it knowing she was out there. Oh, baby girl. Don't listen. Oh, so fun. Keep it chummy. That's her celebrating a night of debauchery that sounds nearly identical to what happened to Jane Doe. Nearly identical, only, you know, in this case, we have multiple texts from Jane Doe after the fact reaffirming consent and how much she enjoyed it and that she loved at least two of the participants and that sex and sexuality we're changing and people are going to have to get used to it. I think I'm a slut. Unfortunately, it's true. He, he, he, that we, I don't know that there was any of that in the other case. And yes, this Jane Doe did eventually allege that it was not consensual, but there was a mountain is a mountain of evidence showing otherwise. Would you fail to discuss on your little show asking, how did we get here? How did we get here? None of the exaggerating information. Only the condemnation of men. Only the fake me to victimhood that you want your audience to think you feel, that you're an empath to please spare me. And it was not a one off. Here's another one, 2020. Take a listen, Alex Cooper there, stop 29. I have a really random thought for you about three sums. Oh, yeah. And four sums. Yeah. This is so strange. Okay. And in relationships before where I'm like, I will never have a three sum with you. I will never have a four sum with you get it the fuck out of my face because I was just too much in the relationship too far down. I'm at a weird place right now. And I have never in my life really thought about this. I've had a three sum before. I've never had a four sum with this new guy. He's so sexual and we've had conversations about like, it's the first real relationship that I've been so like sexually pushing the limits. Like he pushes me to the limits and he's like, would I want to do everything with you? Because it makes me even if we do shit that's wild, like you like whatever it is, it makes us closer. And he was like, it could be hot. Like if we're like out one night and we you go pick someone up and then like we bring them back. And I've been thinking about it. It's early enough in the relationship that if it's ever going to happen, it would have to be now. So you should do a threesome and you should do it early in the relationship. Got it. And maybe not a for some. And where did Jane Doe draw the line that night? Anyone remember? She didn't want to do the for some, but she was game for the threesome. She explicitly by her own words said yes to that. And here's this. Well, how did we get here? How could we possibly be in this place? She spent years promoting these exact choices to a generation, your daughters. And at one point, I'm sure she'd love to get mine too bad. This isn't the only time. Here's another one. This is from 2019 with her co-host, Sophia, stop 31. I don't know if I'd rather like a Megan Fox situation or if I want like a real freak who's like a sick. I mean, I think if you're going to both, I think if you're going to try the threesome out, go for both and see which is your cup of tea. Honestly, just I am both out anyways. Yeah, go for some. That's what we're trying to say. Fuck a threesome. It's over for some these days. It's so fun. So joyous to talk about our wonderful threesome's and for some such a good time. And not just that. Now she's graduated into she wants to be the new Howard Stern, you know, getting the big celebrity interviews, crossing over into legitimacy and hoping that we will forget about her disgusting sex worker past. That's what she is to me. How is it different? A sex worker gets paid to get men off. How is this different? She gets paid to talk dirty, x-rated talk, which she knows exactly how that's going to be received by at least half the population. It's, so now she wants to be legitimate and interview Kamala Harris. By the way, it was all about abortion and how we need to keep it, you know, accessible on demand to every woman who wants it. And she manages to get the chain smokers in there of the band, the chain smokers, the two guys, two lead guys. And take a listen to her exchange with them. This was just a couple years ago, 2023, it's up 30. How often do people propose three sums with the two of you? And how often have you said accepted? Get out of my head. This is up to you to answer. I don't want to answer my question. It's call or not. How often is it proposed? Not supposed to sell them. Yeah. Yeah. But it's a lot of men for men. What has happened? Do you count if it's internationally? I'm so proud of you guys. Did you look at each other differently that morning? The first time. All the times. I think we were just like, what the fuck just happened? It wasn't like a, we were never planned. You know what I mean? It was always like, just like, I don't know what is happening right now. But like, I'm also just like, I don't know. We're just like, it's weird. I'm not going to lie. I don't know how, I think that's how it's recent. It's happened though. In any way, it's just like, this is just starts. Oh, it's, oh, that, okay. I guess we're doing that. I'm so proud of you. She said, so proud of you. For your three, some, so the chain smokers are disgusting pigs too. Good to know. She's so proud of them. So proud. That's who wants to lead the conversation on Jane Doe and how we got here without taking one second to take some accountability for her irresponsible messaging to the women of America. Shame on this woman. Shame on her. And here's the capper. Guess who's following Alex Cooper's personal Instagram page. Yeah, you got it. Jane Doe. Jane Doe, who clearly was influenced by this woman and her disgusting, boneheaded messaging about what would make a young woman feel sexy, feel good, feel empowered. What would gain you the approval, the pride of Alex Cooper, what kind of behavior is fun and celebratory and normal. That story, the first story that we played, the only reason I played such a filthy thing on the Megan Kelly show, which we have never done something this disgusting before is because it matches up nearly identically with what happened at Cornell University and Jane Doe, who follows Alex Cooper's personal Instagram. Jane Doe got in trouble that night because of Jane Doe's own choices. It's not Alex Cooper's fault, but she is influencing a generation of young women to make terrible, terrible choices for themselves. To me, it has the same air as someone who's had three abortions who is the most pro-choice advocate you ever meet in your life. And some of these women who are the most ardently pro-choice, truly there should be a moniker underneath their card name that reads, "I feel terrible about myself and I want you to as well. I've made terrible life choices and I'll feel better about them if more women make them. I won't be such an outlier. That's what's going on here. That's clearly what's happening." Obviously, this woman has made some very dark choices in her personal life. And she, I think, would love to see others make the same choices and somehow feel validated by that and somehow feel that instead of being just a disgusting horror, she's leading some sort of a sexual revolution where it is totally fine to give up anal on the first day. We played you that song bite before. And not only that, but if you want to do it with four men or three who are strangers and just keep picking them up one after the other, you go for a girl. I'm so proud of you. I'm so proud of you. I'm disgusted by this person cannot believe that she has risen to such prominence in the national conversation. And shame on anyone who goes on that show and helps promote her. Shame on you. And by the way, we'll be calling you all out by name. This is the whole thing is a disaster. She's a disaster. Jane Doe is a disaster. This case is a disaster. The media coverage of it has been a disaster. Thank God for TMZ, by the way. Just one of the only ones reporting honestly on this, unlike CBS New York and The New York Times, which appear to be hiding portions of text messages that say our bodies are choice. They didn't want us to know that that she herself, Jane Doe, would refer to it as a gang bang, not a gang rape in her text message and so on. The whole thing is a disaster. Please keep your eyes on true North. Go to church. Raise a godly family. Stay in touch with Jesus. Read the Bible. Remind yourself that there is morality. There's right and there's wrong in this world. There's a way of enjoying sex to the fullest, 10 out of 10 in a loving caring relationship where you can trust the other partner and they trust you too. Like, what's happening here is something that is sent to us by the devil. I genuinely believe that. I believe this is the devil's forces at work on us and it needs to be called out. You know, it's like, I feel like St. Michael is here trying to protect us against the wickedness and snares of the devil and I see it there. I see it so clearly that a person like this would rise to such influence and have the ear of such so many vulnerable, clueless young women who think somehow this is going to be fun and empowering in a good time and they wind up feeling absolutely disgusting about themselves. The truest thing that was written all the Jane Doe texts and exchanges of testimony that we've read was the bit where she said she'd been up all night crying. That I believe that she had been up all night crying shortly after this event happened. I don't believe Jane Doe was proud of what she did. I don't believe Jane Doe had she not decided to call this a rape ever would have done this again. I don't think Jane Doe would have continued telling other young women that somehow this was empowering and that being a slut is a laughable matter. I think what happened was she felt absolutely disgusting about herself and she had enough co-eds in her ear telling her she was raped and then got wind that she wasn't going to be able to go to the Chi-Fi Halloween party and that they'd been talking about her in disgusting ways on that Snapchat exchange board and that was that her own personal narrative changed and then those boys lives changed forever. It's very tragic. There is still time for her to withdraw this money grab civil complaint to stand down on the absurd new criminal push. There was no crime here. The crime that was committed was in this girl's own mind, whoever got in there and convinced her that this kind of behavior would make her feel good instead of gross. That's who's to blame. Let's be honest, America can still be a very dangerous place and you cannot afford to wait for help when you need it. Sure, you could use a firearm, but in today's America defending yourself with deadly force could have legal consequences. 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Take responsibility, protect your future, visit Berna.com right now or your local sportsman's warehouse, that's B-Y-R-N-A.com or your local sportsman's warehouse, visit now and be prepared to defend. There's another young woman in trouble today for very, very different reasons and her name is Selma Blair. She of course is a famous actress who has starred in quite a few movies. You may know her best from her stint in legally blonde. If you're my age, it goes way back, she's done a lot more than just that. She is 54 years old. She grew up in Michigan, cruel intentions in 1999. That was the movie with Sarah Michelle, Geller that a lot of us know her from. Selma Blair's career has not been as robust in recent years as it was back then but people know who she is and apparently she's had a long struggle with alcohol. The reporting was that she started drinking when she was seven years old. She wrote a memoir called Mean Baby. Back in 2022, she named it after the fact that her perpetual frown as a newborn was said to make neighborhood kids scream when they saw her. She wrote that she was seven years old when she started drinking. By college, she was downing spirits, self-medication for undiagnosed MS symptoms she claimed and inner sadness too. After a breakup, she took a bottle of pills followed by tequila, the efforts to resuscitate her were so intense that they broke her nose. She claimed she had an abusive mother who would like to tell Blair the story of how she wasn't sure she wanted Selma Blair. When in seventh grade, she told her mother she got in her period. Her mother asked her wait. She claimed and then informed her she must never gain another pound. This is your wait mother pronounces. This is your size. I have been I have been wary of weight gain ever since wrote Blair. She also claimed to the New York Times in 2022 that when she was in ninth grade in Michigan at a private school, she was, quote, ruined, groomed by a dean who abused her. In the years ahead, she writes, she would be raped multiple times. She says that alcohol made her unable to remember the details of many assaults, quote, I left my body and other people entered it. No prosecutions were ever brought. It does not appear she ever named these individuals specifically. And there were some questions about whether this was a truthful account. Now we find out that yesterday on a flight two days ago, actually, I think the news just broke yesterday. She was on a plane. It was a Delta airplane on its way from Los Angeles to JFK in New York. And while in the air, she attempted to open the door leading out of the aircraft. This led to an altercation in which she punched one flight attendant and bit another. If you listen to the pilot calling down seeking paramedics help when they land the plane. This suggestion doesn't know whether the second victim is a second flight attendant or a passenger. But in any event, it appears at least two people were hurt by Blair on the airplane. The plane went on Lockdown. On Lockdown sources said adding that Blair was restrained in some way, but was not duct taped. She did have a support animal with her, a dog at the time of the incident. Her lawyer met her at the hospital and took possession of the dog. This is not her first rodeo causing chaos on a plane. In 2016, she was forced to apologize following a bizarre incident that happened aboard a Delta flight where she allegedly mixed alcohol and medication before she started crying and shouting about being abused on her flight home from Cancun. She was rushed to a Los Angeles hospital after she reportedly mixed alcohol and pills on this flight home and began to scream about a man physically abusing her. But he burns my private parts. He won't let me eat or drink. He beats me. He's going to kill me. She shouted, breaking down in tears according to fellow passengers. Her statement after this was I made a big mistake yesterday. After a lovely trip with my son and dad and his dad, I mixed alcohol with medication. And that caused me to black out and led me to say and do things that I deeply regret. I'm a flawed human being who makes mistakes and I'm filled with shame over this incident. I'm truly very sorry. That was 2016. Here we are 10 years later. And once again, she has an absolute meltdown on a plane where again, she tries to open the door of the plane leading outside when they are flying in the air is stopped. And then assault the two flight attendants who tried to stop her. They landed at LAX. The pilot had called it in advance asking for police and paramedics. And one of the passengers caught this audio, which they then sold, gave to TMZ. You can hear it in part. You will hear Selma Blair, we are told, according to TMZ, screaming no and stop being removed from this flight. It's not 35. Obviously in distress. Now we are told that when she got into the ambulance, she assaulted one of the paramedics and a police officer, or let me correct myself, one attendant who was trying to take care of her and then later a nurse. This is what the Daily Mail reported that a request initially went out for medics to meet the aircraft because two crew members needed care. They said there was a bloody nose as well as some bite marks. And they also said that the passenger, meaning Selma Blair, may have bashed her head on the bulkhead. That allegation was repeated later by her lawyer. Then they said, after leaving the plane, Blair allegedly took her leg out of a stretcher's straps and kicked at a port authority police officer's face, or not the paramedic, but a police officer, while she was in the stretcher at his face neck and chest, according to the police complaint, as she was being transported in the ambulance from JIFK Airports Terminal 4. According to the legal complaint, after Blair was taken to Jamaica Hospital Medical Center, she kicked the chest of a registered nurse. Both the nurse and the police officer reported being in pain after being attacked, prosecutors say, adding that the officer had a swollen jaw. She later appeared in court, she was arraigned, and she bailed out. Here's some video of her walking into the arraignment. There's no sound. She's wearing a white t-shirt. She's got her sunglasses on, white sweatshirt. She's kind of limping. Don't know if that's because of her MS. She was using a cane not long ago, a couple of years ago, but then she claimed that she was completely in remission with symptoms all resolved, thanks to stem cell treatments. So I don't know exactly what this, the limp is about here, could be the MS has resumed, could be, got injured in one of her many altercations that I just outlined for you. Sorry, here is actually dispatch audio of the officials requesting the medical personnel. I should have played that a minute ago. Stop 34. We'd like to have some medical personnel advocate for a couple of the FAs involved in the passenger incident. They just need to get a couple of things. What's that? Okay. I will pass that along to get an estimated patient count for me please, how many ambulances will need? No ambulances. Just some medical personnel available for two flight attendants, the advocate should be fine for that. I know you're busy, but just had a couple of questions for you for paperwork purposes. The passengers, the abusive passenger, did that result in the two flight attendants that are requested in paramedics? From the end, who I've got sounds like there were two, yeah, one flight attendant and one passenger that sustained some minor injuries, a bloody news as well as some flight marks as well. So I don't think we need an ambulance or anything like that, but it would be like if some medical personnel advocate could look at their injuries. Okay, Dope 938, heavy, we do have paramedics approaching the gate right now and the law enforcement already at the gate. And then one additional add-on, it sounds like the disruptive passenger also sat in her head in a possible kit or something like that. So we'll obviously have to get that further. checked out as well. It's both with law enforcement. And there you have it. That that person who hit her head on the, on the bulkhead was some of Blair, according to her lawyers. Now we, we find the following out. This is not the first time that some Blair has bitten another person because she bit one of these flight attendants, at least one. This is a thing with this woman. The New York Post reported a bit about her memoir, confessing to this. She blames her biting on her shyness. If she's overwhelmed in public, she writes, quote, my system gets overwhelmed and instantaneously, short circuits in my life. Social interactions have been cumbersome, especially for the victims. Sienna Miller had an incident with her one night after her divorce. That's Selma Blair's divorce in 2006. Blair writes that she was at the Chateau Marmon when she, that's an L.A. when she saw Sienna Miller and introduced herself, quote, I couldn't begrudge her for any part. She was winning over me, Blair writes. So I grabbed her arm and bit it playfully, as if it were an apple. Even as I held her forearm in my mouth, I was gassed at myself. I thought, what have I gotten myself into or her? This is horrible behavior. Blair shares that Miller, quote, kind of screamed, oh, as I do whenever someone breaks a plate, you bit me, didn't you? You really did. But, quote, she didn't shame me. For this in my book, she will forever be the bell of the ball. Okay. Seth McFarlane, another incident. Blair also remembers becoming friendly with Scarlett Johansson while working on the 2000 film In Good Company. She was delighted when Johansson invited her to hang out with her and her pals in Las Vegas. The first night, the group went out for sushi. But Blair, who struggled with alcoholism for years, confesses that she, quote, wasn't good at social drinking. Well, yeah, that's not a thing for alcoholics. I did not realize how drunk one can get while seated at a table eating. After dinner, they made their way to a club where Blair saw her friend, Seth Green, who introduced her to family guy creator, Seth McFarlane. I was starstruck, she writes, quote, what do I do in public situations where I admire someone, but feel as if I don't bring anything to the party? Well, I think we all know the answer by this point. Quote, I bid him on the hand. Whoa, he yelled. That really hurt. It wasn't a disaster. I didn't break skin, but I soon hated myself. This is very bizarre behavior. And like, I'm seeing a pattern here, too, of constantly blaming it on alcohol or mixing alcohol with pills. I mean, sorry, after a certain point, you just stop being able to use that as your crutch. Like one big incident, and we would feel sorry for you like we did in the 2016 thing, but this is a pattern now where you've heard a lot of people. None more so than Kate Moss. She finally became friendly with supermodel Kate Moss. And one night was hanging out with her and other people in a London hotel suite after a Mark Jacobs fashion show. The two were having fun taking polaroids together. And that's when Blair decided to bite Moss's finger, prompting the model to laugh. Quote, and because she laughed, I did it again. Salma Blair writes, the second time she did not laugh and exclaimed, that really fucking hurt. The Calvin Klein model then punched Blair in the back and grabbed Blair's thumb and crunched right into it. So she bid her in return. Aren't you so sorry you're not at these Hollywood parties? Quote, this was the first time I had any inkling of how much I might hurt people when I bit them. And quote, Blair confessed, quote, immediately I transformed into a shamed nursery school kid. Oh my gosh, I whispered, I am so sorry. It's a very strange person. I don't know what's going on with the MS or whether she's in full remission as she claimed and she has no more symptoms or like what's happening. But I know a few people with MS and it does not cause you to behave like this. Alcoholism and pill addiction can maybe severe anxiety. They said she has a fear of flying. Perhaps you have a fear of flying and you self-medicate when your dog's not getting it done as your emotional support animal animal with booze and pills on a flight. That could explain this. I don't think it has to do with MS, though I'm not a doctor, but her lawyer is of course trying to come up with all sorts of excuses why she's this isn't really her that this was some sort of a medical emergency he wants us to believe. And by that I think he's making a reference to her MS. But I'm sorry, I'm not sure that's going to fly. I think Selma Blair's had some issues for a long time as you know I just made clear. And I think these issues unaddressed are going to continue causing problems for Selma Blair. She's now facing multiple charges. She was let's see in court she was ordered to keep her cuffs on. They're afraid of her given that behavior. Judge Indira Khan set her bail at $20,000 cash, $60,000 bond during the hearing. Let's see she faces two to seven years behind bars if she's convicted of two state level assault charges. This is with respect to the cop and the nurse. There are other charges that are going to come her way via the feds for the two flight attendants whom she assaulted in the air. That's being handled now by the FBI. So the lawyer said this was not an intentional assault. She missed several doses of a powerful medication that controls severe neurological symptoms. She not only has MS, but they say she has Parkinson symptoms or Parkinsonism, which I'm not sure if they're making a distinction between that and the actual disease. The lawyer said she boarded this flight after being on set and working extensive hours and exhaustive hours and the days leading up to this flight. Now let's just stop it. Stop that. Stop it right now. Everybody listening to me right now is boarded a flight after working extensive hours and being exhausted. Many of us have done that countless times on a flight. Has does not cause you to assault flight attendants and try to open the door to the airplane while your mid flight. Additionally, at one point during the flight, there was an incident where she actually fell and hit her head. Well, it seems that there's a dispute about exactly how that happened. There's a contention that she fell in the course of the altercation, but he seems to be suggesting what she fell. She hit her head and this caused some sort of an incident. I don't know what he's getting ready to argue, but we'll learn more about the facts as time goes on. He says these factors coupled with the altitude resulted in a state of severe confusion and disorientation. So he's claiming that it was missing her power from medication and the altitude and she had worked extensive hours and exhaustive hours and she hit the head. I mean, there are, you know, too many excuses means no excuse. Right? Like, you know how it is. Somebody's canceling on you. They're like, I'm sick and my husband's sick and my kid is sick and also our house burned down in our cars in the shop. You know, they're lying. They just don't feel like doing the date. Okay. It's better off saying, I don't feel well. Let's reschedule. Too many excuses means no excuses. He told the judge to consider some of Blair's body of work and what she's done for people. This is someone we should look up to, he said. She is the gold standard and the judge to her credit said Ms. Blair should not get special treatment because she is a celebrity. You go judge con. So yeah, I think they're going to take this very seriously and I do think she was probably in the midst of some sort of mental health crisis. That seems very clear. And I really genuinely hope Selma Blair finally gets the help that she clearly so desperately needs. Okay. We're going to take a break. When we come back, we're going to bring on Andy. 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Independent journalist Andy Know is best known for his extensive reporting on Antifa and far left political violence, which he's been swept up in at times in trying to cover groups like that. He's gotten physically attacked. He does this reporting a great risk to himself. Now he is out with a new book detailing what he describes as one of the most disturbing investigations of his career. The book is called The Zizians, inside a trans death cult. It just came out today, and in it, Andy Know investigates a group he describes as a radical trans leftist vegan AI doomer cult that has been linked to multiple deaths across the United States. Here's a look at the book's trailer. The book has its own trailer. We began as a small and obscure California community became something else entirely. A cult built around a trans figure known as Ziz. Around Ziz, the secretive network of transgender devotees emerged. What they left behind was trailer violence linked to AIDS for deaths, including a border patrol agent and a key murder trial witness. Over nearly a decade, the group recruited followers from around the world. I tracked down sources, interviewed witnesses, uncovered hidden records, and pieced together an impossible story from fragments scattered across the world. Hmm. Andy joins me now. Andy, so good to see you again. So tell us who are the Zizians? Well, let me provide a little contact. So for those who are familiar with my reporting, they know that for many years I've reported on Antifa, and I've been subjected to their violence. But in the last five years, I've taken a trajectory towards reporting on trans violence. In 2020 during the BLM riots and Antifa riots after George Floyd died when I was gathering the data on those who were being arrested at the Portland riots, for example, in Portland where he's to live, disproportionately up to 20% of the arrestees on certain nights were trans identifying in some way. And I would verify this through looking up individually each person and getting their booking photos. So that was something that I thought was very curious and weird because all other estimates out there, even on the higher ends of what researchers think of the demographics of trans people in America, it's about 0.5% at the high end. So why is it magnitudes higher in left-wing violence? And then I was beaten severely in 2019 and also again in 2021. And nobody was held criminally liable for that. But I pursued justice through the civil court and of the individuals that I had sued, half of them ended up identifying as trans. So personally, it really hit me in the face. And what I learned in the years following census that for news reporting involving homicide, murder cases, and type of violence, you cannot take the names of suspects at Facebook value from reporting agencies or even law enforcement departments because all of them use names and sex of individuals that are often inaccurate if it involves trans identifying individuals. So last year on inauguration day when a border patrol agent was ambushed and shot dead in Vermont right by the Canadian border, as soon as I found out the names of these suspects who were involved in that case, I dug further and I found out, wait, there are trans links here and not just trans link but cult links. And I kept digging further and further and eventually I learned about the zizians and I traveled to the various hiding spots across the US, interviewed people in witnesses and family members and really uncovered their secrets. And the story has all the elements that you think media would be all over it. There's interstate murders, money, suicides, revenge, fake deaths, cover-ups, all of that and yet it was barely touched on by the mainstream media and I think the kryptonite for them was the fact that almost all the members are trans identifying and trans ideology plays a huge component in their extremist beliefs. Yeah because the media loves a good cult story. Normally they'd be all over that like when there was that nexium sex cult up in my one of my home towns in Albany, New York where I spent my high school years. They were all over it. They loved that story but this one not so much and look at whatever say what you will about Keith Ranieri. He wasn't murdering people. And yet in this cult we've gone that far according to you. I mean what's but no but but the got that the lead leader of the cult. I mean we can get to this but like he's not in custody. He's not on facing charges of murder. It appears he's just gotten a massive pass from the feds on some of his behavior. So the image that he's showing is a booking photo of Jack Amadez La Soda who identifies as female and uses the earliest ziz. Hence his followers are known as the zizians. He is currently in federal custody in Philadelphia. However recently his felony Maryland state case was suspended for reasons that were unknown and one of the other zizians, one of the alleged coaxing spiriters in that case was let go completely. I think what but at the end of the day ziz has not been charged with any conspiracy charges or murder or even attempt in murder. The zizians what makes them really different from many other cults is that many of the members you can describe essentially as geniuses. They have degrees in STEM backgrounds, engineering, bioinformatics, space research, quantum trading. Some of them were making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. Some of them had interned at NASA. For example ziz, Jack La Soda had interned for NASA researching at one point solar explosions from the Sun. So in their educational background for many of them is quite elite. University of Oxford, UC Berkeley, UC LA, University of Illinois, Urbana, Champagne, graduate degrees. So they, what I uncovered is that they are very, very good at covering their tracks and escaping accountability, faking their deaths. Jack La Soda himself had fake diss deaths numerous times. At the same time, particularly when they were in California because they held their origins in Silicon Valley as part of the rationalist and effective altruism movement, which we're hearing a lot now from those who are warning about the existential risk of AI. They were able to exploit the sensibilities in the courts regarding transgendarism. So they, over the years, in past arrests related to ongoing cases to attempted murder and murder, they made a number of accusations in various frivolous motion filings in the courts about how their rights were violated by a transphobic law enforcement, transphobic judges. And the courts in the Bay Area gave them time and listened to their grievances. And meanwhile, one of the, in one of the attempt to murder and murder cases, the one key witness was aging Curtis Lent. And then he eventually was assassinated in 2025 last year in a very brutal knife attack in Balejo, California. Would you know by whom? The person who has been arrested for that is a ZZN number and At one point, how to apply for a marriage license was one of the other Zizian members who is facing a murder charge in Vermont. Oh my God. Okay. All right. So let's stop one second here because I'm sure people are confused at this point. So we know that there's like the main guy who is at the heart of the Zizian alleged cult. And his name is Jack Lasota. He's the leader. He's been arrested several times. He said he faked his death and he was eventually caught in Maryland. But those Maryland state charges were dropped, but he's still having to deal with the fed. So he's got, he's in custody right now and some federal charges. And he's sort of the leader of this cult, which I love to know why veganism is Zizian part. Like they got a lot of things here, Andy. We got, we got trans, we got veganism, we've got violence. Like there's a lot they stand for. So what, what is he selling? You know, because in any cult, there's a cult leader who's generally very charismatic and he's selling something to the participants. So we're hearing a lot now about AI risk from effective altruists, none of them who work that open AI and anthropic have come out to talk about how AI will destroy the world. But this debate has been going on in Silicon Valley for a decade. In Ziz and the other Zizians, many years ago, have moved to the Bay Area to get involved with the groups that hold these types of debates and come up with ways that they think of mitigating those risks and saving the world. So in that type of environment, Zizian developed some of his own ideas. For one, he believed that the mainstream rationalists in EA communities weren't doing enough. Ziz himself actually could perhaps form a vanguard of those who would go on to quote unquote, save the world. And those who would make up that vanguard in his worldview would likely involve trans woman. He had a belief that trans woman and by that I'm referring to males who identify as female, he believed they possessed certain cognitive abilities, special cognitive abilities that made him unique and special. So as part of his ideology, once he was recruiting people, they developed certain beliefs about how they could conduct human experimentation involving sleep deprivation. And they believed that the two cores of the brain, the hemisphere, the right and left hemisphere correspond to actually different identities, one potentially being evil, one good. And therefore, you have to separate the two hemispheres. So they conducted a number of experiments on one another that caused psychoses in their members and that ended up with several of them committing suicide. And that's been part of the story of the Zizians. It hasn't been discussed as much in comparison to the murders. How many, how many Zizians are there? How many people in this cult? So I've been able to identify around a dozen of them. However, like with many cults and extremist groups, there are other concentric circles and outside of that, there are many associates who identify by name, their real names in this book, who have not been charged with any crimes, but nevertheless have served very important roles in the group. What is the, what, describe why they keep crossing the wires of law enforcement? Because you listed a couple of the alleged crimes that some of them have committed. But like, what is it they're doing? You know, like a lot of these cults, they do weird things behind closed doors, but they don't bother anybody. What are, why are these guys continuously in the crosshairs of law enforcement? So law enforcement started paying attention to them back in 2019 when the Zizians held a direct action against a gathering rationalists in Sonoma County, California. In 2019, on that day, they dawned Guy Fox masks and wore black robes and came in costumes and blocked off the exits and entrances to this park and created what law enforcement said was a hostage situation. Now, this is a park where there were other children and families there. So dozens of people thought that there was an active shooter situation. So that was when they first were charged with felony charges. And as that case, had dragged on and then with the pandemic and there were various tactics to waste time in the court, also with the civil claim that they filed alleging transphobic abuse. Eventually, that was then Ziz faked his death. The person faked the suicide and he disappeared and when Ziz was seen by law enforcement again, it was during the attempted murder of their landlord, Curtis Lent. He was stabbed dozens of times with swords and this is from his testimony. He had his eyes so crazy, shout out in the attacks are them being violent and he was impaled with a sword. He had a firearm for self-defense. He shot one of the Zizians dead. He miraculously survived that. Ziz, by the way, was seen at that area once police responded to the attack. And when he was taken to the police department to be questioned, he wasn't placed under arrest. And all Ziz did was pretend to be unconscious. Law enforcement thought it was a medical emergency. They took him to hospital. Nobody kept an eye on him and he disappeared. And the next time he emerged was in Philadelphia with others in the Philadelphia area with other Zizians and he was person of interest in a double homicide case there where the parents of one of the Zizians were shot dead. Certainly, feel better about the fact that he is in federal custody. I was confused when I read that the Maryland authorities had let him go, but that's good to hear that he's not free and roaming anymore. What do you think? And he is it because we've heard a lot about trans teeth outside of this group, which I never heard of before, but it does seem like there is a, if it's not a growing cultism around transgenderism, there's definitely growing violence. I mean, the number of school shootings we've seen that have been committed by someone identifying as trans. It does seem to be on the, on the up sweep. And yet the thing you're talking about is another pattern of the media downplaying or not reporting at all on the trans ideology of the perpetrators. I mean, are you noticing the same trends? So it's important, obviously, to caveat that not all trans people are violent or extreme. However, even though the Zizians are a very fringe example of what happens at the tail end of this ideology, they do pit fit into a larger pattern of surging trans violence. In the book, I document the number of tax that have happened, mass shootings, atrocities, parasite, that is the killing of one's parents, the killing of other people through accusations of transphobia or other mental health comorbidities. And you see that there's a surging, rising violence that's not being discussed. In fact, we're being gasoline it on it. I'm speaking to you now just as last week there was a American man in the Washington, Washington State, a trans person who was federally charged for allegedly helping the trans mass shooter that carried out the February slaughter of women and children in Tumblr, Ridge, Canada. And that's just one example of many, many, many, you know, but people remember the Nashville Christian school shooting. There was a Minneapolis shooting on children out the mass. There was the shooting by Robert Dorgon, so many of them that, and the thing is, if you just rely on media reporting, oftentimes they would just report the suspects, killers, and convicts as women who carry out these attacks. So for my book, it was very important that every individual has their legal birth name reported and the biological sex. And as there is no ambiguity about it, because the only way that the truth about the Zizians can be told is if we know the true identities of who these individuals are. What about, do you, do you know anything about the trans people who are messaging in advance of Charlie Kirk's assassination? Have you looked into that at all, Andy? I have looked into that. I know that was a, people have brought a lot of attention to that. When I looked deeper into some of those accounts that, before his assassination were posting things, you'll see that on some of them, there was a pattern of them making similar statements about other days. And I believe that, unfortunately, this may have just ended up being a sick coincidence where certain threats or certain things that they were referencing ended up being true. Wow. Wow. That, I mean, that's more of an explanation than we've gotten from anybody else on why we've seen no charges, I know, against any of those people who was posting. Listen, I love your reporting. You are one of the bravest reporters we have. The book is called the Zizians, Z-I-Z-I-A-N-S. Inside, it trans-death cult. And Andy can only do his great work with our support. It's out today by it support Andy. And you will find this quite an eye opener. Thank you so much for coming on and for all the great work you do. My pleasure. Thank you. Andy, no everybody. Last name, N-G-O. Look it up. You can buy it now. Again, the Zizians, inside a trans-death cult. Tomorrow, we are back with our pals from real clear politics, and there's plenty to discuss with them. We'll see you then. Thanks for listening to The Megan Kelly Show, no BS, no agenda, and no fear. (upbeat music)