The Howard Lutnick Dead Whistleblower Investigation | Julian Dorey

what's up everybody and welcome back to another episode of the Julian Dory podcast I am Julian Dory and I'm Joey Deef how you doing how you doing Joey Deef it's that time of year yeah the leaves are falling yeah you got the little dew in the morning yeah the temperature's turning here for a little autumn in New York yeah we got a movie to fucking make you've been working your ass off on can't wait to do that yes sir and in the middle of all of it you know what goes great with every one of those little thematic elements um I'm gonna guess maybe a death or or 10 oh wow that you just got really dark sorry I don't know I mean I was gonna bury that lead I'm going into this blind yeah you're just jumping right into it I was gonna say Joey Deef something not it's certainly not death we know we do not wish death upon anyone we love life we want everyone to have life especially people that need to see justice because we want to make sure that happens but what I was going to say Joseph DeFilippis is a nice Howard Lutnick barbecue ah right just just a nice baby back barbecue whatever the fuck that's probably like double double speak right there but you know what I mean yeah so if you guys remember way back on I want to say it was February 7th was the first time we dropped one of these weekend episodes the very first one that we did after we had done just years of doing the guest episodes during the weeks yeah and then added this one in it was an accident because Deef and I and before that we had done a lot of stuff and we had done a lot of stuff and we had done a lot of stuff before that before you were here even Alessi and I back in the day had always done you know like a bi-weekly kind of just shoot the shit round up on Patreon for like 200 people you know we're just having fun with our earliest patrons shout out to all them the OGs of that and everyone who's on there right now and you know we'd never done anything like that publicly we're like you got me reacting to what's going on and you know we're kind of bouncing off each other with what we're thinking about everything trying to make sense of all of it and so we recorded one tranche of epstein files dropped on friday january 30th because obviously like all of you out there i was flabbergasted at what i had seen so joey d friends in here we're gonna do our patreon that next tuesday or wednesday he's like why don't you teach me the epstein files yeah because he had been off the internet for what was it like a month yeah a little month and change yeah a little yeah little cleanse it's a little cleanse so he pops to get dirtied right away that's right that's right he pops a gummy comes in here says teach me the files i teach him the files or whatever you want to call it and then the patrons immediately said when we posted it you got to make this public we did the rest was history but the reason it's relevant to howard lutnick is because i had a little crash out yep on howie and i and i think it was very very well deserved yeah because right right that's fair to say yeah yeah so this was right when we had discovered that howard lutnick who had claimed very publicly on whatever that fucking new york post podcast was in the summer 2025 that he had disassociated with jeffrey epstein his neighbor yep howard lutnick lived at 11 east 71st street and that's public information i'm not doxing anyone saying that and jeffrey epstein lived at 9 east 71st street so the wall that he shared he claimed that he never associated for business personally or philanthropy with jeffrey epstein jeffrey epstein his direct quotes there after 2005 because he thought he was a very disgusting individual and then the epstein files dropped and showed that he very much associated with him he not only associated with jeffrey epstein but he associated with him for business personally and philanthropy and we pulled all the emails and once i was going through all them which included which included if you i'm sure you remember this joey thief an email explicitly describing what would be the future of the business and the future of the business and the future of the business and the future of the business and the future of the business and the future of the business and the future of the business a visit to epstein island yes in 2012 so seven years after howard lutnick said i never talked to the guy more on his timelines being off again later coming by the way he laid out this email that he was going to go the island with jeffrey and i lost my fucking mind when i saw that especially when he put like all the ages yeah like describes them by age yeah that were coming with him it wasn't just his kids it was his buddy something levine yeah i think you guys can look it up and find the email i don't remember the guy's name but we later got the picture of lutnick looking i would say very very comfortable and happy right yeah it was an island getaway yeah yeah he's with epstein on the island sandals cargo yeah the cargo shorts with the little twinge on the bottom that was big in the early 2000s that's right he had a little drip a little drip see don't say don't say we're not fair here joey joey deep is giving credit for a little bit of drip yep yeah just a bit just a bit so anyway so he was having a great time on the island and then once the files were released if you remember this that image was among many of the images swept away and then the doj pulled it back but thanks to the people doing the lord's work over jmail.world yeah we still have that image because as you guys many of you well know but for those who are unfamiliar jmail.world is basically like this dummy gmail that was coded by these guys to take all the epstein files that were released by the doj and turn it into an inbox as if you the viewer are logging into jeffrey epstein's inbox hey guys if you're not following me on spotify please hit that follow button and leave a five star review they're both a huge huge help thank you so i know we've shown it before deep but if we can get that picture somewhere of howard lutnik just so people know exactly what i'm talking about on the island but the doj tried to pull it back didn't matter the public already had it and all the while howard lutnik embarrassingly goes and testifies to congress like a week or two later and not only doesn't have the decency to resign as commerce secretary the guy's in the fucking cabinet but trump doesn't fire him which which is very interesting joe deep i've never seen i mean we're talking about this on a day where we just had a press secretary last four days after donald trump said he should really reconsider yeah normally we'd be talking about that a lot today but i could not let this investigation that's incoming on howard let me go but you know the fact that donald trump didn't fire him and the fact that this guy didn't have the decency to resign shows you the hubris and the locked-in nature whatever that is and whatever that entails that howard lutnik feels to be able to be you know this billionaire elite who's buddies with all these awful people who lies about it and then look you in the eyes and say yeah i lied what are you going to do about it that's a disgrace and i personally take unbelievable offense to anybody in who has great responsibility with great power who tells the entire general public to eat cake i mean that's a theme that we've had in some recent episodes talking about that in other ways howard lutnik's continued employment as the commerce secretary of the white house of the under the president of the united states today is a complete fuck you to you me and everybody out there and he continues to be the commerce secretary even on the heels of another very very potentially damaging and dare i say suspicious report that came out which is the topic of our investigation today you guys didn't think i was gonna let this go come on you thought last week just because right when it came out we didn't talk about it we weren't going to talk about of course we're going to talk about it but what i had to do with this and this is really different than i think any of the 37 of these we've recorded at this point dave obviously like our process is an hour or two before we go on air dave comes over and we just check all links to make sure we can pull that up quickly uh what happened this week what are we going to talk about and then we shoot the shit and do it live but today we knew once we started to look into the details last week or two weeks ago of this latest whistleblower dying more on that in a second mm-hmm we knew that in order to report on this effectively and accurately we had to look at all the facts and present them to you guys for you guys to decide and there's a couple reasons for that the first funny reason is you always have to watch that because you never know who the fuck is going to sue you and who's got really deep pockets to do that who can outspend you in a fucking day and we are talking about a very very wealthy guy here so we do not want to give any layups and make claims that are said to be 100 true without having the full evidence and backing to be able to back that up in court that's the number one reason the second reason is we want to make sure and i've said this about so many different investigations related to epstein and all the other ranges of crazy shit happening in our world right now we want to make sure that we look at all the facts as we know them so that we don't make the mistake of over correcting to the other side and here's what i mean about that we obviously have all had a hard time with the fact that we don't know the facts and we don't have a huge wake-up moment even me someone that's looked at this case the epstein case forever we've had a huge wake-up moment this year with what we saw actually come out and and how it was somehow even way worse than the previous evidence had suggested and it was already to be clear very very very dark and bad but we've also seen the reverberating effects of epstein and the release and everything else that has happened at a societal level as a result of that and we continue to see no justice for really anyone the uk like arrested prince andrew once that's not here the u.s yeah i can't say like i we're gonna talk about him today but i can't say i care as much about that i do care about that but like yeah there's a lot of people in my own country right here that not only aren't seeing justice but they continue to stay in power continue to make money and doing what they do so what we don't want to do is then just make the assumption without any actual proof that the complete opposite of anything any of these people say is therefore true because then we will give them the opening to say see you can't listen to any of these fuckers out there all these investigators they just have a predetermined zealot mindset they want the end result and that's what it is so we went through and looked at everything about this dead whistleblower whose name i will now say is simon andreis who worked high up at howard letnick's company bcg i'm going to explain canter and bcg in that relationship in a few minutes because that's a little confusing don't worry we're going to go through it but you know when this popped up right now it is to say that what simon andreis had claimed while he was alive and he did die by unaliving himself allegedly by the way that is what his family said but his claims are claims and i can't say for certain that i have any evidence right now to say that he is dead definitely accurate what i can tell you is he did receive settlements from official authorities who also fucked him over more on that too i keep saying more on that and on stuff i'm sorry but there are so many fucking things to this so trust me like you're gonna get all the details but you know to an extent when we put all these pieces out there we're putting them out there for you guys to work with to pull on the threads perhaps investigate further most importantly make your own decisions and as we always say here joey deef it's pure spec it's pure spec it's pure pure spec but at this point i mean it feels like howie you and me you know when it comes to doing this in the studio right here i guess we gotta dance again right dance let's dance dance boy i also do want to say before we start and let me not even say this fast like i was watching that diddy documentary the 50 cent did deef and one of the you know 50 cent is so what's the word like like he's he's so petty and i love it i love it shout out to 50 by the way shout out to 50 they did a great job with that documentary but what they would do is they have to legally say what did he was actually convicted of because of course the government fucked up that case they have to say that but he would always they would always put it at the end and then any other things about like did he denies or people around him deny they would also put that at the end and they would flash it on the screen like a flash grenade and it would go you had to like pause it and go back yeah so i'm even gonna give the courtesy of saying this slowly and carefully without flashing it not to rip 50 for doing that i do respect it but i'll just be careful here and say this the full way canner fitzgerald and bcg which are the two companies that until february 2025 when howard lutnick was confirmed as commerce secretary of the united states he was the first secretary he was the ceo of to be clear okay canner fitzgerald and bcg categorically deny all of the following claims and allegations that whistleblower simon andreis made do with that what you will now let's get to the case so by the way simon andreis who i've read i've referenced that first link below that statement thief do we have that because then i'll explain the can't the canter bcg thing is it's a good thing i don't think it's a good thing i don't think it's a good thing i don't necessarily confusing this one yeah so actually can we do the one before that i'm going to come to that because before he did die simon andreis was he did publicize his name but the one yep you got it that's it so former managing director at bcg group slash british banker turned whistleblower simon andreis the man who told the fbi about lutnick slash bcg's quote-unquote financial irregularities unquote fraudulent 9-11 charity and revealed lutnick's business partnership with epstein in adfin has been found deceased and as i said his family later said that he was he unalived himself i do have to say this simon was on record with the bbc actually with the investigative journalist that he was helping out there when he publicized because by the way he got doxed in the epstein files that's why he came public yeah again we're doing an amazing job protecting witnesses apparently and victims but simon did struggle with severe mental health trauma as a result of this whole odyssey that happened to him he was open about that and he had checked into a wellness facility shortly before he did unalive himself as as it is alleged so it it is possible it is very possible that he did in fact do that and it wasn't just like someone actually offing him though you never know when it comes to the epstein files and people seem to turn up dead and you know it's claimed that they made that decision themselves you never know so i'm leaving that door open but i do have to be fair and say that there were at least some things that he self-reported before this happened that would correlate with him potentially actually doing that it does not change the fact that he was ignored silenced and his life was ruined as a result of allegations that he made as far back as 2015 to 2017 in that area when he was a managing director he was a serious guy i'm going to get to his exact role at bcg and was working and he had come to new york and was working there so one of the things i've said throughout us looking intermittently at these epstein files over the past god knows how long is that when it comes to fbi reports or confidential informants or victim claims that were made related to jeffrey epstein after his death in august 2019 and i want to be careful how i say this when it comes to those reports that came afterward you have to take them with you and you have to take them with you and you have to take them with you a bigger grain of salt and look at them with an even more suspicious eye unfortunately i hate saying that but it is true because there was the dog pile effect meaning he was now dead it became a huge story and a bunch of people call up at all and i i don't like defending the fbi at all when it comes to this case but a bunch of people call up the fbi like left and right and the fbi's job is to take all those calls and write a report on it regardless how crazy it sounds and then they write the report and then internally later they probably toss a lot of it out obviously the fbi even before jeffrey epstein died had tossed out a lot of very credible and important stuff and pretended it didn't exist so that is not to exonerate them of wrongdoing but it has always been that like when you see these ones that came later you're like okay what could the motivation be there what's the background on this person etc simon was making claims related to i have the exact phrasing actually he was fired from bcg group in january 2017 after raising internal concerns regarding accounting irregularities and suspected fraud which are the same things he called up the fbi about or reached out at first to the fbi in late 2020 related to epstein himself this is before we got the emails released and all that but i'm gonna we have it those are the two pdf steve oh yeah i'm gonna go through these two pdfs so that you have this and you understand exactly what he did and this is from the epstein files and these are unclassified federal bureau of investigation intake reports this first one is from october 19th 2020 and you'll see all these redacted things that are going to include spots where his name would have been what i don't know what's unclear to me the guys at bbc would probably know this is which documents at first were accidentally released with his name on it it could have been this one and then it was just later redacted and that's why it's redacted now i'm not sure but somewhere in the epstein files his name was i hope unintentionally released right like i mean it's still horrible it's still like a fireable offense of course and horrible but you know whatever anyway so on october 19 2020 at 11 43 a.m eastern time date of birth redacted cell phone number redacted email address adapted redacted postal code redacted called the fbi national threat operations center to report information about howard lutnick ceo of redacted i don't know why they redacted that who could be connected to jeffrey epstein he provided the following information so and so was calling from the united kingdom which is where simon is from but stated he worked in new york from 2015 to 2017 which is when he was a managing director running i have that in there somewhere exactly what that was but he was responsible for all kinds of shit across the chicago London and New York offices, I believe. Like he's a serious guy. But he stated he worked in New York from 2015 to 2017 for blank, blank, blank redacted, was a blank, blank, blank redacted, who acted as a redacted after witnessing some financial irregularities. The CEO of Cantor Fitzgerald, Howard Lutnick, was Jeffrey Epstein's neighbor, and he believes some of the suspicious financial activities could be related to Epstein's case. Redacted says the BCG, BGC, I'm sorry, which I guess they had redacted up above and they didn't redact this one, which shows you how careless this is, says that BGC does a huge amount of charity work relating to 9-11 because Cantor Fitzgerald lost many employees that day, but he thinks the charity day is fraudulent. Redacted has documentation he is willing to provide to the FBI to back these claims. Redacted claims that Cantor Fitzgerald, redacted, redacted, redacted, causing him to have a relationship with the heart attack, redacted, and seven subsequent hospitalizations. He has also submitted documentation to the Internal Revenue Service about this. So several months after that, Joey Deef, there's a phone call. So the FBI, I just talked about how the FBI has to write a report on every claim that comes in, and we've seen a lot of crazy reports where it's like, you know, I was getting raped by a fucking. John Stamos. While so-and-so sat there, and then they were on the, you know, and it gets, it's like a who's who, and then there's people that weren't even alive at the time, like that kind of stuff. And you don't see anything past that with the FBI. Either A, because we didn't get those files, or in that case, actually, more likely B, there wasn't anything to do with it because it was actually maybe provably false or a ridiculous claim. Right. This one got a phone interview four or five months later by the FBI. So they were looking at this going, huh, this one seems like it could have some truth to it. So it says, this is from April 5th, 2021. It says, redacted, date of birth redacted, home phone number redacted, was interviewed telephonically by FBI special agents, redacted, redacted, redacted. After being advised of the identities of the interviewing agents and the nature of the interview, redacted provided the following information. Redacted had been in the securities business for three years. For 32 years, he was at redacted, redacted from 2012 to 2017, which we now know this is Simon, of course, talking about BCG, which is owned by Cantor Fitzgerald. I did say I'm going to explain that. That's coming in a minute. From 2012 to 2015, he was based in redacted, which we now know to be New York. In 2015, he transferred to redacted New York location at redacted, which would be the address, probably. Redacted was running the redacted branches. I have that information too. I'll get to that. Yeah, I got that. Of his unit out of his location in the New York office. He held a series 30 license, which meant he supervised regulatory reporting and held the most senior position in his unit. Redacted managed 50 people. He was in New York until March of redacted, which I guess would have been 2017 when he left redacted. Can you actually, for the context, pull up what his official position was? Yeah, so I have it here. He's the managing, or he was the managing director and head of futures and options London. And then he was responsible for managing the trading centers in London, New York, and Chicago. That's a big time job. Yeah. That's a big, big time, big paying job too. Yeah. Okay. And he had all the compliance that he had that had to hold too. So he was the signatory for like auditing and signing on. Yeah. And he was the signatory for like auditing and signing on. Yeah. And he was the signatory for like auditing and signing off on all these financial operations. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. That's interesting. Yeah. So I had talked about this, I think last week, where I was talking about the compliance and like insanity in some cases at banks post-financial crisis. This is post-financial crisis, including some years right when I was starting my career, like 2017. When you're in charge of that kind of thing, it's not cross and T's and dot and I's. Yeah. That's exactly what I was thinking. You are the most annoying person to everyone else. And if you're self-aware, you do apologize to people for it and say, you are doing your job so that no one goes to jail, or there's not a fuck up because someone did something above us that we can't see. That's who this guy had to be in that kind of role. And I've seen the guys in that role, especially at a powerhouse level. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, we'll give Howard Lutnick this. Cantor Fitzgerald, BGC, these are powerhouse places on Wall Street. Like, that is a competent person you are putting in a job like that. Yeah. Okay. I can't possibly emphasize that enough. So related to the fraud allegations, Redacted made in his initial complaint to the FBI, Redacted highlighted rope traders were gaining access to the electronic trading platform at Redacted. I'm going to guess the electronic trading platform was at BGC and not Cantor, but that doesn't really matter. It's the same thing. From their homes. Redacted, the co-head of brokerage, was able to override controls that were in place. To cover losses at Redacted, people within the company tried to rob Redacted pool of trading funds. That's nice. Nice. The people trying to cover these losses would come to Redacted because he had the Series 30 license. Like, hey, listen, Simon. just yeah we're taking a little off the little big off the edge and he has to sign off on it that's it just just sign right there sign the paper it's all clean it's clean no one's gonna know by robbing the various trading pools to cover losses redacted advised it materialized losses and the brokers were being robbed of revenue redacted was involved in a global ponzi scheme because they forced employees to pay 10 of their salary slash bonus this is his claim of their salary slash bonus into a share scheme they never became vested in. Employees were told they could sell shares if they signed on to work at Redacted for four more years. Employees were never given voting rights for this scheme and the share prices were dropping. The detail in these The detail in these claims and in this call that is being now summarized in a report by these FBI agents who did this is fantastic. Like, this is a guy who, in my opinion, if he's making this all up, he is elaborately, brilliantly executing the makeup. Do it that way, you will. Redacted, advised, redacted, and Cantor Fitzgerald were well known for their work. Redacted, advised, redacted, advised, and Cantor Fitzgerald were well known for their work. Canter Fitzgerald had a history of crime. Senior officials have spoken about the money laundering that occurred. PowerBridge International Services was an affiliate of Redacted and Cantor Fitzgerald. PIS was where payroll passed through in addition to the money raised on charity days. They were part of the compliance division. Redacted thought they were illegal wire transfers involving PIS. PIS was associated with Deutsche Bank accounts in Singapore and Hong Kong. Now, this may be totally unrelated, Joey D, if this is really a little pull here, but where did Jeffrey Epstein's bank accounts move? And it's been a while. I think like 2013 when he left JP. Was it Singapore? No, Deutsche Bank. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Someone checked me on that in the comments. It's been a while since I looked at that, but he was involved. So probably nothing there in all fairness, but worth saying at least. Cantor Fitzgerald was paying brokers from foundations in other countries through PIS. PIS had hired a number of brokers from other countries. PIS had hired an ex-Deutsche Bank CEO as global president. The Panama Papers connected Cantor Fitzgerald to shell companies. We love shell companies. Shells. Shell companies are useful. It also, you were correct too at that timing. It was 2013. When he moved the accounts. Okay, cool. It's always floating in there somewhere. It's just like, you know, a hollow knock on the edge. And then like, maybe not all the details are right, but like one thing's there and then we can at least. It's just all so convenient. Yes. We can at least say we didn't make it up, right? Yeah. Howard Lutnick ran everything and he maintained a very small circle. Lutnick constructed all of the fraud being committed. And this is what Simon is alleging. Pure spec. Spec. I don't know if it was pure spec for Simon. Won't speak for him. He can't speak for himself anymore. But that's what he told the FBI. He used philanthropy as a smokescreen for illegal activity. What a nice guy. Cantor Fitzgerald was not doing well pre 9-11. After the events of September 11th, 2001, Cantor Fitzgerald was doing well after they lost 646 employees in one day. Cantor Fitzgerald couldn't afford people's salaries and then was able to hire people and give people opportunities. Cantor Fitzgerald ran a global charity day in New York and London. They invited high-profile celebrities to come in and join staff on the trading floor for their business. You guys have seen this. CNBC always stream this day every year. I don't know if they still do. And no disrespect to the people who go there for charity. I'm sure they assume they're doing a great thing. thing. And by the way, I hope they actually were, and this isn't true, but like, you'll see like Shaquille O'Neal executing a trade or something like that, you know, for charity. And hopefully it was, but this guy's alleging that maybe it wasn't. The charity day revenue was raised through the trades placed that day and employees gave up their salaries for the day. Brokers are paid on commission and redacted advised if Cantor Fitzgerald was stopped, was stealing the entire global revenues for the charity day, brokers couldn't earn their commission. Even if they did not participate in the charity day, charity days raised nine to 10 million each year and redacted thought it was strange. It raised nearly the same amount every year. That is a little strange. That that's strange to me. Maybe guys who like work on wall street now and really actually know the ins and outs of that. You can help out in the comments, but that seems a little strange. I mean, that it was that consistent. If in fact it was brokers were not given tax relief for the loss of revenue on charity days. You know why? Cause fuck them. That's why. Anyway, PIS handled all the funds raised in the United Kingdom on charity days and the associated wire transfers. Andres advised, they didn't redact it right there. Oh yeah. Wow. There it is still. Andres advised the day of the charity day trading. Like who, who did these redactions? AI. All right. Yeah. Right there. Right there. Right there. All right. Good. All right. We're good right there. Thank you. Andres advised the day of the charity day trading would shift if the publicized day was not a successful trading day. Hmm. I'm trying to picture like what that does and I'm too far removed from any of that world to put that together live on the spot right now. But again, maybe in the comments, you can help. Let Nick was a neighbor of Jeffrey Epstein in the adjoining property. 7 East 71st Street, New York, New York. Again, very public information as I'm reading a public document right here. Let Nick bought the property for $10 through a trust. You know what's really nice, Joey D? When you can buy a beautiful Upper East Side townhouse with thousands and thousands of square feet, total privacy, basically like noise proofing, right? Just steps away from Central Park for $10. I'm going to go look at Zillow. We're going to call up Nico Aronson at this episode and we're going to go find something for $10, Joey D. Listen, you let me know. I'll be ready to go. You want to go in for five? I'll go. I got five on it. We good for that? I got five on it. I got five on it too. Come on. So, let Nick bought the property for $10 through a trust. Les Wexner and Epstein owned the building. Let Nick bought it in a very roundabout way from Epstein. Redacted advised there was a relationship between liquid funding and executives at Bear Stearns. If you remember, Bear Stearns is the, is the company that first collapsed before the official financial system all collapsed in September 2008, back in February 2008. A couple of days after Jim Cramer said Bear Stearns is fine. They were not in fact fine and they all, they collapsed. And that was the first domino to fall. So, when Bear Stearns collapsed, the executives moved to Redacted where they went to a Russian hedge fund, which is what you do. It's what you do. You go find a nice oligarch, you find his hedge fund and you say, we just crashed, but now we're here for you, fam. Redacted advised BGC International was involved in crime and money laundering. Bear Stearns had hundreds of subsidiaries in 2018. BGC International was the parent company of many of these subsidiaries to include JP Morgan Chase and BlackRock. There they are. BGC partners made subsidiaries all over the world to include Delaware, Cyprus, and Malta. Wow, what perfect locations. If you know, you know. I don't even want to, I can't say it. No, yeah, don't spook me. You know or you don't. BGC International used many of the same intermediaries as Interjura, which was associated with Paul Manafort. Remember Paul Manafort? Been a while. Yeah, Paul Manafort was the campaign manager for Donald Trump in 2016. And then he was fired like a dog on, maybe it was like July 31st, 2016, August 1st, August 2nd, somewhere in there. Steve Bannon replaced him, rest is history. But Paul Manafort was later the first guy thrown in prison for the Mueller, Miller, however the fuck you say his name. Yeah, Mueller, yeah. Investigation. And he was later pardoned by Trump. And here was the thing about Paul Manafort, unrelated to this. He was a major lobbyist and he did something illegal as it relates to lobbying for a foreign government. But it was just wild that he was the guy thrown in prison when all of K Street does that, which doesn't make it right, by the way. It is illegal. But like literally all of them do it. And then he got thrown in jail. Someone's got to take the fall. And everyone else is like, yeah, we're just, we're going to keep doing that. Anyway, so where was I? Which, so BGC International used many of the same intermediaries as Interjura. Intermediaries as Interjura, which was associated with Paul Manafort. Renaissance Capital was another company they were associated with. Is Renaissance Capital run by a guy named Robert Simon? Was that floating in my brain from the Eric Weinstein podcast in 2022 with Rogan? Who ran Renaissance Capital? Is that the name, Robert Simon? Jim Simon. Jim Simon. Jim Simons, yeah. All right, I'm not wrong. Interesting, I remember that. Damn, he's the boy too. Yeah. Yeah, he died in 2024. Jim Simons was an American hedge fund manager, investor, mathematician, philanthropist. At the time of his death, his net worth was an estimated 31.4 billion, baby. Making him the 55th richest person in the world. He was the founder of Renaissance Technologies, a quantitative hedge fund based in East Atalket, New York. I remember. That's my quant, dude. I remember Eric Weinstein was going on some long fucking. Like, tangent that included this guy and all kinds of shit he was doing and out on Long Island. And I think he knew him. I don't remember. But it was like right when, remember he had that, he was like, Michio Kaku. Michio Kaku's crazy or he's gone crazy. I later had Michio Kaku in my parents' house at the time for episode 145 and he hadn't seen that. And this is what went viral. And I remember going to find this. I was like, "Oh, this is a horror." And there was a whole thing about this guy, Simons, Jim Simons as well. But like, then Michio responded to that whole thing. He was like, "Well, if you don't like the heat, don't come in the kitchen." And that was like the whole thing. So it was like a little, that's why that's in there somewhere. But anyway, so Simons, Simons, Simons, Renaissance Capital, which was Simons Company, was another company they were associated with in addition to the Paul Manafort Company. Redacted. He advised he thought the money being laundered through Cantor Fitzgerald and BGC International was from the Russian Mafia. That's awesome. That was what senior people in the trading market thought. So it wasn't just him that thought it. It could also have been money made by Cantor Fitzgerald through the frauds they were committing. Auburn Securities was associated with banned Russian entities. Letnick gave Sarah Ferguson, Fergie, who was Prince Andrew's ex-wife, who, I don't know if this is still the case, but they like still lived in the same house after marriage. And were intricately involved in each other's lives and certainly both knew Jeffrey Epstein very well. Letnick, very well, Letnick gave Sarah Ferguson office space above Cantor Fitzgerald in New York. Oh, you can't make this up. For the Children in Crisis Charity. This is the royal family ex-wife of the guy who's accused of abusing a bunch of fucking children. Accused, alleged, whatever, seems to be a lot there. Hm. Along with Jeffrey Epstein. Over the years. Ghislaine Maxwell and Ferguson would attend Dolce Vita parties which raised money for CIC and Stow School. CIC no longer existed. That's awesome. So Ghislaine Maxwell, out of the goodness of her heart, would give up her time to come raise money for abused children. Yes. With the royal family. Yes. I love it here. It's all above board. I love it here. Redacted advise, he has never interacted with Letnick. He had contact with Sean Lynn, the chairman of BGC Partners, so he was high up there. Roberto Bob Velez was a whistleblower who had contact with Letnick through the board. Velez was an American citizen. Redacted had never met Epstein or Maxwell personally. Redacted thought he met Ferguson on a charity day, but wasn't sure. Redacted was working with the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, that's the CFTC, and he was eligible for their whistleblower program. Agent note. After the conclusion of the interview, redacted contacted Sean Lynn, the chairman of BGC Partners. Redacted contacted special agent redacted, telephonically asked if he could provide her contact information to the CFTC. Special agent redacted provided that information to redacted. A lot of intricate claims there. A lot of people making guest appearances, that's what we should call it, right? Yeah, yeah. Cameos, yeah. Little cameos in there. Enough for an Emmy. It's like Entourage. Yeah, it's enough for an Emmy. Yeah. You get a good line in there. Little cameo Emmy. Totally. I don't know if that exists. Nah, but you know, the people, it exists with the people. Yes. Now, Simon Andrees made all these claims, as I said, back when he worked at BGC. And he was summarily fired in 2017. Very high up guy to be fired. Now, we've been saying Cantor Fitzgerald. We've been saying BGC. This is an easy way of just making it simple. I want you guys to think of them as the same thing. They are technically not. Cantor Fitzgerald was the initial company, the one we all know about from very sadly losing a bunch of people in the towers, 646, I believe, on 9-11, including Matt Bochy and David Ferugio, who were here to do a podcast on 9-11 this year. So shout out to them, because obviously, like real lives, we're all lost in the middle of that. But Cantor Fitzgerald was a longtime major firm on Wall Street. And somewhere in the area of 03 or 04, they spun off this business that was under their jurisdiction called BGC. And I have a link there, Deef. Is it this one right here? It's literally a Google link. Yeah. Differences. Right here. Yeah. So this is straight from Google AI to simplify it. Cantor Fitzgerald and BGC Group are closely tied with Cantor Fitzgerald operating as a controlling parent affiliate. But they focus on discipleship. I'm very generalizing here. But BGC involves more electronic trading platforms and things of that nature like execution of trades in modern-day Wall Street, which is why also it makes sense that that business was becoming bigger and spinning out in 2004 because literally between, say, ballpark like 1998 and 2008, all the, you know, famous guys screaming on the floor with papers on Wall Street, who literally used to run the pit every single day, actively, physically on the floor, that was whipped away like a sucking sound in those 10 years because it all moved to electronic trading and those guys were basically rendered extinct at that point. So BGC was more on the new era of the world as fiber optic cable was being deployed all over the country so that people could execute trades in nanoseconds. Michael Lewis wrote a great book called Flash Boys all about this and that era in the aughts when this was all being built. So BGC had Howard Lutnick as a CEO just like Cantor Fitzgerald had Howard Lutnick as a CEO. It's all under the same bridge. So when we're going back and forth between saying Cantor and BGC, it's the same shit for lack of a better way of putting it. But – all right. So yeah, when Simon makes the claims, I have this note. I have this note in here. I want to make sure I say this. He is referring to BGC and then he'll refer to Cantor as you heard and then Cantor and then BGC. So that's why that is the case because different parts of the business were under different roofs I guess technically. So Andrees also reported this to the FCA, the Financial – what association? What's that stand for again, Dave? The Financial Conduct Authority. The Financial Conduct Authority, which handles the UK. He had – which is where he's from obviously and the UK – if you listen to Simon Dixon's podcast, he laid this out very well. The UK is like financial center of the universe in a lot of ways. Obviously, people make that claim about Wall Street and New York, which is perfectly fair. But when it comes to like traditional financial jujitsu, if you will, London is viewed as like the home of that. So this is the organization, the authority that oversees any arrangement. There are regularities that may be happening in the market. As far as I know, maybe my UK guys out there can help us out in the comments, but it's like in a similar vein-ish as like the SEC in a way in the UK. Maybe Dave can look at that more. But there was – when Simon went and reported this to them, he was not protected by them. I'm going to lay that out in an article in a little bit. But that – no one has really answered for that over there since then. I know Dave's looking at that. So let's do that BBC article, the one in big font, just while you're grabbing that. Yeah, it would be the equivalent to the SEC. So the FCA is effectively, for lack of a better way of putting it, the SEC of the UK. Okay, easy enough. Now, the BBC article, it's in like size 24 right there. Yeah. So this is going to lay out – Lotnick, not lick. So how U.S. Commerce Secretary Epstein's links were uncovered by British whistleblower. And I'm going to pull it up over here for me just so I can stay this way. A British man has told the BBC how he unearthed evidence including that his former employer, Howard Letnick, now U.S. Commerce Secretary, failed to disclose a business relationship with the pedophile financier Jeffrey Epstein. Simon Andrees, previously managing director at a Wall Street firm, discovered an email chain from 2018 in which Letnick and Epstein had discussed the – prospects of a startup business they were both involved in. So what I want you guys to understand is we are now fast-forwarding to 2026 when the Epstein files come out. Simon, who made all these claims that never got a result to him and never got investigated and nothing ever changed, and Howard Letnick became the Commerce Secretary, when the files dropped, he started going through with his own personal information of behaviors he knew about from email chains to try to look if there was like a there there or if there were other things that might be related. to some of the claims he said, and he did find some things. Andrees shared his findings from the millions of released Epstein files with U.S. politicians on the influential House Oversight Committee ahead of an appearance there by Letnick in May. So when Letnick came in to make another appearance after the February one, he was giving them this information. Letnick told the committee that to the best of his knowledge, he had only learned this year that Epstein had been an investor in the firm Adfin. Speaking on his behalf, the U.S. Commerce Department told us there was no evidence of wrongdoing. So let me get that straight. Howard Letnick, in May 2026, went under oath four months after these files publicly dropped. Like, I don't know, Joey D, if this is just me, but if I were in those and were a major player in those and were accused of a bunch of things that hopefully I didn't fucking do, by the way, I would go through every fucking file related to my name or, I don't know, my initials to see where I said anything. So that I could be the most prepared to not lie. But Howard Letnick, he's not like you and me. He lies like he breathes because he can get away with it. So Howard Letnick told this committee, we're going to come back to this article, but he told this committee that he had no awareness that this online advertising technology company called Adfin, he had no awareness that he was in business with Jeffrey Epstein on that. As we always do. As we always say, Joey D, though, there's always an email. There's always an email. So if you go to the HWL emails, right above that first, there's a tweet from Deep State Dropout. And I already have it here, D, but everyone searched the Epstein files for Letnick, in quotes. Simon Andrees searched for HWL. What's his middle name, William? Can we look that up? Let's see. Those are Howard Letnick's initials, HWL. He knew Cantor Fitzgerald executives signed their emails with initials because he'd been a managing director at Letnick's brokerage, BGC Partners, across London, New York, and Chicago until the firm sacked him on January 31st, 2017. He'd spent 2016 raising accounting companies inside the companies, and he had a heart attack along the way. Some of what he flagged. Stuck. In November 2019, the CFTC fined BGC Financial $3 million for losing nearly four months of voice recordings on thousands of block trades and for not telling the regulator about an SEC investigation for more than four years, which were a result of some of the irregularities that Simon shared with them. That action earned him a $420,000 whistleblower award. He was vindicated on some of his claims. Do you know how crazy that is? Joey Deef. So when a trade is executed on Wall Street, and I can't speak to before the global financial crisis and what regulations were. I don't know. But afterwards, I remember this when we worked there. Kathy and Diane in my boss's office, whenever a trade was executed, they would do so on a recorded line. Oh, yeah. I think it was above a certain. It's the same with sales and shit, too. All of it. I think it was above a certain level to where they'd have it. But it might have not. It might have not even been above a certain level. If you're trading with BGC, you're always going to be above a certain level. They don't take clients like you and me, Joey Deef. Yeah. yeah i get it it's all right they don't like our kind it's all right and so the next paragraph explains starts to explain some of the stuff we laid out in that october 2020 phone call so his call surfaced anyway when the justice department released more than three million pages in january so he went looking for the rest the hwl search that he did turned up a 28 may 2018 so may 28 2018 exchange epstein and we have that email can we pull that up it's like right below it the adfin email so do do 2018 email i got it right here so this is from you can see on this shot that deep's going to pull up on the screen you see hwl to jeffrey e and what's strange about these epstein files is they they're like grabbed screenshots and so when jmail.world then turns it into into a gmail you can't like open it up like when i receive an email on on my gmail i can hit the name and it'll now show me the email address and a drop down comes you can't do that with this because it literally just grabs screenshots so the screenshots conveniently that were grabbed here grabbed his his byline if that's what you call it where he lists himself as hwl and it didn't grab his email that probably would have said howard at or whatever dot com so it's very very sneaky but simon went and found this and if you look at this some of it it's bunched up in that text right there in that paragraph deep but there are other emails right there jeffrey epstein wrote on may 28 2018 at 1 12 p.m on another note what do you think the prospects for adfin are howard lutton nick responded seven minutes later producing revenue finally this is their year next 12 months they need to become economically self-sufficient epstein then replied four minutes later thanks how long until sherry is ready and i can buy my guest house hwl responds at 607 p.m probably four years in parentheses pierre i don't know what that means we'd need to actually do something for it to ever finish haven't even picked an architect slash designer yet too much construction just finishing the house must be nice must be nice just finishing another house at a time where the average home buyer in america is like 40 years old because no one can afford it but yeah that that doesn't you know the four minute response time of saying this is their year with very strong details would suggest he was very very aware of adfin and he was discussing it with his business partner on on the company itself they are both investors in this company jeffrey epstein but this guy is confident enough to go into a may 2026 hearing when he could have pulled up this email the whole public including him had access to it he had access to it on his own emails if you want to go through those and say yeah no i didn't know that until 2026 it's new info as i said in my first crash out about him liar he's a liar i should like cut that back in right there that was that was a fun one what is your excuse he's a liar neighbors with this dude claims he only ever met him once lived next to him for 20 some years that's crazy proven liar advising the president of the united states every day but lutnick answered what i said in my first crash out about him but i just read and so adfin was an ad tech startup both men had signed investment contracts for in december 2012 oh they went way back boy epstein put in 875 000 ashtray money for jeffrey andries handed the chain to the house oversight democrats before lutnick's closed door interview on may 6 where lutnick said he'd only learned this year that epstein was a co-investor i'm you're telling me this for the first time he did the meme he also found cantor's 2013 plan to lend 1 million pounds to a company controlled by prince andrew in exchange for exclusive introductions i am going to be talking about that his phrase for it on the bbc's file on on four in july was quote to basically buy a prince unquote that is the phrase that simon used in written claims dated august 11th an employment judge struck out his uk claim against bgc lutnick and bgc co-ceo john pierre oh ben that's who pierre is there it is maybe that's who pierre is i don't know why pierre would be involved in his architecture i don't know that was just fun maybe it is maybe it's not i don't know pure spec as his nearly nine as nearly nine years out of time bgc calls his out so that was i'm sorry i should read that sentence again in a written response dated august 11th an employment judge struck out his uk claim against bgc lutnick and bgc co-ceo john pierre or ben as nearly nine years out of time bgc calls his allegations as i said quote unquote categorically false unquote the white house called the b the bbc report quote pathetic and desperate a friend who profiled him in august posted on september 25th that he unalived himself at a trauma treatment center he was 57 bgc's applications for its costs against him is listed for november 25th and he's not going to be able to do that he's going to be i guess they're trying to recoup their attorney's fees for these claims i don't know maybe that's what that means but that seems like a real extra rim shot right there for a guy who they financially ruined and ruined his life who was also seemingly right about at least some things yeah something maybe maybe cooking on all that and by the way just so you guys understand what ad fin did their core business was operating as a digital ad tech firm focused on online advertising metrics and data insights gotta get mike yagley to take a look at this yeah see what he has to say that mike jeffrey epstein invested in ad fin through his to his entity southern trust company inc as we said in 2012 howard lutnick was a co-investor also invested around the same time the company is now a shuttered defunct company conveniently conveniently so we have that bbc article still open right joey def yep i there was one thing i was just thinking in my head before i went back to oh his up at the top his initial tweet that he did come in public i do want to read that so the people can see this straight from the horse's mouth yeah let me get that that was like that back up yeah you'd have that up at the beginning yeah i got it right here cool so this was what was the date here this is um august 9th 2026 so this is when simon officially through his own voice confirmed that he was the whistleblower he tweeted out and this is at s a n d r i e s z simon andreese on x i am the british whistleblower who reported evidence concerning howard lutnick his links to jeffrey epstein and canter fitzgerald and bgc to the fbi in 2020 and 2021 he then linked to his bbc file on for documentary about his story i later shared with the house oversight committee which which subsequently questioned lutnick and closed doors my disclosure also contributed to regulatory action in the u.s and uk including a 96 million pound hmrc tax assessment relating to bgc's partnership scheme i believe the true i don't think we've even talked about that if we did it went over my head during that initial report from the fbi i believe the true tax exposure is substantially higher i also reported to the fbi and financial regulators matters involving canter fitzgerald relief fund and bgc slash canter's annual 9-11 charity day the personal consequences of whistleblowing and the retaliation i say followed have been devastating for my family and me mother jones previously reported that documents i uncovered revealed a years-long business tie between howard lutnick canter fitzgerald and jeffrey epstein through adfin including a 2018 exchange in which lutnick and adfin and epstein discussed the company directly so that was him coming out and talking about this we'll go back to that bbc article where i was so we can go with that so searching 3.5 million documents i was completely shocked said andreese describing the moment when he discovered his own name in the epstein files a massive collection of documents photos video and email relating to the notorious sex offender released by the u.s government in the past year the specific files in which andreese appeared related to interviews he had given to the fbi while in dispute with his former employer bgc partners a financial brokerage firm part of lutnick's canter fitzgerald group in 2016 andreese had raised concerns about the fact that he had been involved in a series of scandals and a series of scandals in the past year in which he was involved in a series of scandals in the past year in which he was involved in a series of scandals andreese tells the bbc he was disappointed that few had seemed interested in what he had discovered quote i'm exposing howard lutnick's relationship financial links with jeffrey epstein and there's no interest unquote i wonder why in 2025 lutnick was appointed u.s commerce secretary at which point he sold his shares at canter fitzgerald and passed control of the firm to his sons keeping in the family you know family fair on a podcast later that year which is the one i was referencing with the new york post he claimed he'd only ever met epstein once 20 years earlier when they had been neighbors in manhattan and that he had found his behavior gross however with the epstein there's the picture joey deep with the epstein files release inconsistencies began to appear in the version of events photo showed lutnick with epstein on the sex offenders caribbean island little saint james in december 2012 when did they say that adfin investment happened december 28 2012 yeah so this was the final meeting jeff how much you gonna put in baby yeah wow all right i'll put in two wow that's crazy let's say it's just gonna be a good investment we can get a little data that's crazy four years earlier in florida epstein had been sent to prison for two charges of soliciting prostitution including one with a minor leon black will tell you she was 17 what are you gonna do what are you gonna do that's what these scumbags tell you despite the fact that there was what like 50 girls between the ages of 12 and 14 were documented to have gone to the house only to be completely hoodwinked by the united states government and covered up andrea suspected there was yet more to find in the epstein files to back up his claims if only people knew where to look in the 3.5 million pages of documents and this is what i referenced everyone was searching quote lutnick unquote he says he knew though the canter fitzgerald executives preferred to use initials rather than full names in their emails so andrea searched for hwl howard william lutnick and found emails sent to and from epstein in 2018 where they talked about all this stuff and those are the ones we want to talk about next time we'll see you next time thank you so much for tuning in and i hope you enjoyed this video i hope you enjoyed it i hope you enjoyed this video i hope you enjoyed it and i hope you enjoyed it and i hope you enjoyed it and lutnick agreed to appear before the committee in an off-camera hearing in may conveniently off camera always you know we we'll do it howie we'll keep a record of it but no one has to know the parts we delete you know because if you weren't here what the fuck do you know he has not been accused of any wrongdoing in connection with epstein and he told the committee quote i unequivocally condemn the conduct attributed to jeffrey epstein and everyone who participated in his illegal act listen to that joey deeve everyone who participated in his illegal activities if the alleged crimes crimes are beat to are to be believed here howard lutnick just condemned himself he then finishes that off with with a beautiful line joey deeve the survivors of his crimes deserve our respect and support notice he didn't say justice yeah notice he didn't say justice that's very deliberate this is not a dumb man never ever ever make that mistake with people like this it's just because you hate them and you know the you you think they're they're no good which perfectly fair obviously you can tell i agree with you and have strong suspicions myself never ever take their intellect from them that's a big big mistake these are very intelligent people and they are very calculated they know what they're doing and in in that respect unfortunately letnick repeated his claim to the committee that he did not know until this year that epstein had been a co-investor in adfin we just proved that wrong however democrats on the committee accused him of lying in all 21 signed a letter demanding his resignation which again as of today friday october 16th at 5 p.m joey deefe he has not resigned and he continues to you're going to get to a quote in a minute about how much they love what he's doing in the commerce department the u.s commerce department told us the allegations against letnick here it is were quote a desperate partisan distraction from the historic work of this administration historical come on that the commerce secretary has answered hundreds of questions before congress and there is no way to answer them and i think that's a very important point and i think that's a very important point there's no evidence of wrongdoing or any legitimate cause i put into any or legitimate cause for concern so there's no legitimate cause for concern by the way i'm just i'm going to come back but they continued this statement it's the last paragraph of this article the beat this is the white house saying speaking on behalf of letnick the bbc's pathetic and desperate attempt to slander secretary letnick will do nothing to change the fact that he has been the most consequential commerce secretary ever and he has been the most consequential commerce secretary ever and he has been the most consequential commerce secretary ever and he has been the most consequential yeah consequential for associating with rapists if that's what you mean consequential for maybe a little money laundering and fraud pure spec pure speculation your honor it's pure speculation i'm innocent man but you notice it's never this this is where like the salesiness of trump not that every fucking pr department for white houses has not been salesy they all are yeah but it's never enough to be like you know we stand behind it's never that no they have to be tremendous they got to be doing this is the greatest the great modern history in modern history yeah and it's like why again donald trump just dumped some four broad and some poor broad in four days because she made him look bad she sent a she sent him she sent her for basically like an assassination yeah on sean hannity where he's like hey sean sean i got a problem with you i'm not going to do this i'm not um, this fucking bitch is retarded. I need you to make sure that we, we absolutely take out any opportunity for her to look remotely good. And they sure did. And Sean, it's very entertaining, six minutes and 45 seconds. He, he did just that. He was like, it didn't go well, your press briefing the other day. You're also not an attorney, right? Let me remind people again, you're not an attorney. Brutal. But yeah, you know, again, a guy who will literally offload people like that in a second when they make them look bad, not only keeps Howard Lutnick, keeps them right next to him on camera to this day. Yeah. Always laughing. Very interesting. That's as Joe Kent would say, data point. Yeah. Very big data. So the thing about buying a prince, that's the next part of our investigation here. Another discovery Andres made in the Epstein files concerned Lutnick's association with two people who knew Epstein well, the then Prince Andrew and his ex-wife, Sarah Ferguson. Lutnick had been friends with Ferguson since the 1990s and was a guest at Princess Eugenie, her daughter, at Princess Eugenie's wedding in 2018. Documents in the files revealed his firm, Cantor Fitzgerald, had a plan in 2013 to buy a prince, as Andres puts it, and exploit Andrew's contacts with wealthy individuals and sovereign institutions. Under the proposed terms of the deal, 1 million pounds would be loaned to a firm controlled by the prince, which would then be bound to do business exclusively, with Cantor Fitzgerald. Epstein warned the prince's business aide, David Stern, not to be confused with former NBA commissioner, now deceased David Stern. It's a different David Stern. Epstein warned the prince's business aide, David Stern, against the deal, the files reveal. One of his concerns, so he's going against Lutnick, Joe Dief. One of his concerns was about the exclusivity of the deal under its terms. Andrew could only introduce wealthy clients to Cantor Fitzgerald and no one else, which, by the way, that is already dirty. Because you are essentially, Prince Andrew is using his influence to go to people, regardless of who they are, whether they have five bucks or five billion bucks, chances are it's going to be people with five billion, and say, yeah, you got to work with my friends here. And as far as I know, he's not going to disclose to them that he's paid by them to sell for them. And he's not going to tell them that he's in that, in those terms, which Epstein did push back against in this case, if Howard Lutnick had had his way. It would make it seem like, Prince Andrew's at a bar with someone saying, yeah, these guys are great, when in reality, he is contractually obligated to only say these guys are great, and he can't say anyone else is great, or you should put your money anywhere else, except this place. Yeah, it's like, it's like LeBron and his new poly market. That's right. He ain't going to be pushing Kalshi. Nah. Bro, I don't know why you're taking that money, bro. You don't need it. 15 million a year, you're a billionaire. Come on. What are you doing? Come on, dude. What are you doing? Come on. Files indicate that advisors, both Lutnick and the former Prince, discussed the deal for four months from August to November, 2013, but it came to nothing. So they didn't end up doing it, probably in large part because Jeffrey Epstein didn't like that deal. Not a good deal. Asked about the deal, Cantor Fitzgerald did not deny the talks took place, but told the BBC it did not go into business with the former Prince. Not for a lack of effort. Andrew Mountbatten Windsor did not respond to a request for comment. And Dries, well, talks about it because this is when he was alive, but it goes through some of the stuff we talked about with his settlements and stuff like that for the rest of the article. But we have these emails, of course, between David Stern and Epstein, and I wanted to put them in there. So there's two sets of them. The first ones are from August 9th, 2013. So Jeffrey Epstein gets an email at 9:20 AM, David Stern gets an email at 9:20 AM, David Stern gets an email at 9:20 AM, David Stern gets an email at 9:20 AM, David Stern to, and it doesn't say to who, but you would suggest that Jeffrey Epstein is on this email, seeing as this is in the Epstein files on jmail.world. But David Stern says, nuts, Charles, CD, is a one-man lawyer show who is now selling himself as PA's private lawyer. PA is Prince Andrew. He is talking to the Howard Legal Council, who is in a different league. What do you think? Two question marks. Charles Douglas is on the next email at 9.56 a.m. Maybe that's the Charles he's referring to, and it says, to the Duke, probably referring to Prince Andrew. Libby Ferguson, which is someone related to Sarah Ferguson. And it's CC to Charles Douglas, which is the same guy. That just says, it's all like, it's weirdly coded. Cause of the way it pulled from, from the file. So it just says like some business stuff, like fee earner. Charles Douglas, CPD attending, Merkel on telephone to New York City at 8.30 on Thursday, August 8th. Not really anything right there. And then it's just very weirdly coded. So it's on the screen, so you guys can look at that and go pull that email. But it later says, CPD agreed to send through to SM initials a copy of what we discussed and agreed, which will effectively be this attendance note suitably doctored, whereupon he will double check that he is acceptable to HL, Howard Lutnick, and we can proceed. CPD suggested that the intuition, the intention was to put the structure together as soon as possible, subject to SM telling CD who the internal tax advisors would be and would then plug that person into Robert Langston, but that apart, we were agnostic to which jurisdiction. USA, Cayman, good place to hide some money. Or otherwise. As AC would simply declare his interest to HMRC in the usual way. Is that his majesty? Nah, her majesty? Nah, I don't think so. I don't want to speculate too much there. That's a very confusing email right there. Well, that's the UK's Tax Payments and Customs Authority. Interesting. The usual way. Good pull, Joey. They do this usually this way. Good. Good pull, Joey Deef. So, the Duke to David Stern for your conversation with Charles. Is that email from Prince Andrew? Possibly. And then Jeffrey Epstein replies to David Stern at 3.23 p.m. No, no, no, no, no. Howard's main business is gambling in Las Vegas. That is referring to Howard Lutnick. He will have to disclose to the Las Vegas Commission his arrangement, and you will have. Holy hell to pay. So, the deal is falling apart because Jeffrey Epstein. God, I hate giving money credit here. But he correctly does point out that BGC at the time was heavily invested in Vegas casinos. And so, because of their investments there, I looked this up, they would have had to disclose any investment deals like this, which would have outed the fact that Prince Andrew was, under Howard Lutnick's proposed terms, exclusively introduced. I can't do that. to Cantor using his pizzazz as, at the time, a member, official acting member of the royal family and former trade envoy for the UK. So, those are the emails in August. Then, there are more emails where they're trying to come to terms in September. So, I want to make sure I have the times right. Yeah, these are much easier. So. So. So. August 30th, 2013 is the first email. From Stephen Merkle to Charles Douglas and Libby Ferguson. Charles and Libby, attached, please find the draft term sheet. Please let me know when you would like to discuss it. Thank you, Steve Merkle. On September 2nd, 2013, David Stern wrote, see attached term sheet from Howard to Prince Andrew. I think madness. They are still at it. We kill it, question mark. Jeffrey Epstein responds very quickly afterwards on September 2nd. No predetermined split. And even then, payouts made only if they choose to, question mark. It's crazy. So, redacted wrote, I'm guessing that's David Stern. I don't know why that's redacted. Kill the whole thing, question mark. PA lawyer is out of his depth. Jeffrey Epstein replies, no. Let's do a little counter. Suggest a counter. 50-50 split. First 1 million to offset loan. No subs acting without written agreement as to fee and profits. No exclusivity. Jeffrey Epstein didn't. He's wheeling and dealing. He didn't like Prince Andrew being tied down. He's like, you don't put a great white shark in a fucking tank. You let it swim. On Monday, September 2nd, at 9.22 a.m., like a minute later, instead of 50-50, redacted wrote, again, I think this is David Stern, instead of 50-50, can we do 40-40-20? 20 for me. Come on. I respect his hustle. He's like, dude, we said I was going to get you. I was going to get 20 on this, so can I get that 20? This is the original Prince Andrew idea, so he signed off on it. He was like, that's good, fam. And then Jeffrey Epstein wrote, or David Stern wrote to Jeffrey Epstein later, or Epstein wrote yes. And then he said, danke. Danke. Danke, Sean. Thank you. I guess David's speaking German now. That's a full you can't make this shit up moment. It's good stuff. But we also have the agreement right there. You see that, Joey D? This is the agreement. The agreement for referrals. This is from the Epstein files. The agreement for. I'm not going to read this whole fucking thing, but you guys can find it. It's EFTA 011-41460. If you guys would like to look up this eight-page agreement for yourself. But this agreement for referrals, the quote-unquote agreement, is made and entered into as of the blank day of November 2013 between Canter Opportunities, LLC. Got to get that. Got to get that opportunity going. A limited liability company organized under the laws of whose office is located at 110 East 59th Street, New York, New York 10022 Canter and Euramore Limited, or UML, a private limited company organized under the laws of the United Kingdom whose registered office is located at 17 Abermarle Street, London, United Kingdom, W1S4HP. UML is effectively Prince Andrew's. front company, if you will, here. What he's using as the vehicle to make this agreement. So that is a real thing, and Canter did confirm there were discussions about it, as we read, when they were asked about it in 2026, but that no business was done, and that is true. But this guy, Simon Andrees, was able to put all this stuff together and ended up losing his life. However, that didn't end up happening. It's been reported as. alive to himself, as I said, and I have reason to believe that that actually is possible in this case. I'm not saying that's definitely what happened, to be clear. But it is such a shame that, once again, someone who, potentially bravely here, was putting together a lot of information that some people maybe didn't want found is now not with us to discuss it. As we always say, Joey D., if you and I love life, we are. Oh, yeah. We're having a great time out here. We got a movie to make soon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're filming 21 podcasts in 2013. Three days. Yeah, yeah. before Thanksgiving. Don't do me up. I'm enjoying myself. So, yeah, I don't experiment with belts in any way whatsoever. The only thing they do is they go around my waist sometimes when I'm wearing jeans. You know, I don't keep loaded weapons around in any respect. No. You know? Except for these. That's right. Except for these. That's right. Those knuckles stay red at all times. Ripped up in red. Weapons. But, yeah. We're good around here. So, I just want to be very, very. Very clear. very clear about that. But there is a fundraiser for Simon's son after his death. And, like, sadly, his family had to come out on his Twitter. And there's a statement there, D., if it's, like, the bottom link. And talk about how that fundraiser is actually real. And they're trying to support him because now people are, like, trying to spread rumors that it's not and stuff. But I had mentioned. The FCA, which is, as D.F. looked up, effectively the U.K.'s SEC, had not properly protected Simon as a whistleblower when he went to them about all this stuff. And now, were we able to get that article, the one he's urged to resign? You were. That's right. You screenshotted that. Yeah, yeah. I have it right here on the screen. So, the FCA boss urged to resign over Epstein whistleblower review. Campaigners challenged regulators' decision to let one of its own non-executives. Executive directors investigate how it dealt with Simon Andrees before his death. Let's go down. The chairman of the FCA has been urged to resign by a transparency campaigner over its handling of a review into whistleblowers. Ashley Adler was challenged repeatedly at the regulators' annual meeting on Tuesday about its decision to use one of its non-executive directors to conduct a review into its whistleblowing operations after the death of Simon Andrees, a British banker. Andrees had put forth allegations of the link between Lutnick and Jeffrey Epstein. The American financier and convicted pedophile. However, Andrees said he felt, quote, thoroughly let down, unquote, by the support he received. The banker first reported that Andrees, who had been living in Cornwall, died by unaliving himself last week. No official cause of death has been publicly released at the time of this article. The FCA has said a review will be conducted by Leah Patterson, who joined its board as a non-executive director at the start of this month. During the regulators' meeting, attended by more than 200 people in person in Edinburgh. Shout out to Edinburgh. Shout out Edinburgh. We'll be there soon. Shout out Edinburgh. And hundreds more online. Paul Carlier, a former foreign exchange trader and whistleblower, said there was a need for an external review to avoid another catastrophic tragedy. In basically like in review, the people who were in charge when all this happened and now this guy, Simon, is unfortunately no longer with us. They're all still in positions and nothing's happening to them despite the fact that they dropped the ball so terribly. I don't even know, Deef, if we need to even do. um the ghislaine maxwell thing basically there was an article that prince andrew had gone to ghislaine maxwell this is just like added in there just throw it on the fire he went to ghislaine maxwell and suggested that he needed new inappropriate friends this is from the financial times in december 2025 which by the way i don't think i mentioned this but the financial times reported on these epstein prince andrew links all the way back in february long before even the bbc did and went and got simon and stuff but it went under the radar at the ft that's fucking crazy classic but anyway a person appearing to be former prince andrew emailed ghislaine maxwell asking if she had quote any new inappropriate friends unquote for him and discussed procuring girls ahead of an official royal visit to peru the latest episode the emails will further deepen the controversy and the conduct of the former prince now known as andrew mountbatten windsor following previous claims that he had sex on three occasions with one of jeffrey epstein's victims virginia robert choufray when she was 17 seems par for the course for me joey thief yeah sadly unfortunately but the other one involves another timeline problem for prince andrew which is that in may 2012 2010 when jeffrey epstein was still a guest of the government at the time in his nice little posh downtown west palm beach office that he spent 13 hours of his day at which included visits from women some of whom may not have been legal age you know while he was supposed to be in prison prince andrew was seeking his advice on how to get in around investment rules as what he was at the time still the uk trade envoy and of course a working member of the royal family so this is from the financial times also in february 2026 andrew mountbatten windsor discussed ways around restrictions on his making investments while a uk trade representative and shared official documents from the role with jeffrey epstein files from the role with jeffrey epstein files released by the u.s department of justice show mountbatten windsor also sought to make representation on epstein's behalf to the emir of qatar when the gulf ruler was on a state visit to the uk according to the files released as part of the justice department's investigation so let me get that straight he sought to make representations on epstein's behalf to the fucking head of qatar while the guy was on an official visit for government business to the uk on behalf of epstein while that dude is sitting in prison in the united states as a convicted pedo this is dude now if you remember those famous pictures can we pull them up andrew prince andrew and epstein in central park those famous pictures in i want to say that was december 2010 of prince andrew taking a nice stroll in central park very close to jeffrey epstein's town home prince andrew describes this visit to new york in which he stayed at epstein's home as his way of officially cutting ties with epstein and saying goodbye because he could no longer associate with him yet in the same year earlier that year albeit but in the same year he's going to this guy like it's biz as usual to try to get his advice while he's serving time in prison try to get his advice on how to handle very diplomatic international matters and how to represent epstein's interest because obviously he couldn't be there at the time because that's the allegation maybe he would have been able to pull up right like i'm doing him a favor use that other passport you got it yeah right but this this is him that's a beautiful picture of andrew saying listen hey what do you think you're saying let's see we can't be friends anymore jeffrey i enjoyed all the parties yes it was beautiful he's like i have an even better idea why don't you and me double down on this thing that's right that was the second way he's like it was a full leo dicaprio i'm not fucking leaving yeah he's like it's come to an end i'm not fucking leaving they already know that i'm not fucking leaving i'm not fucking leaving i'm not fucking leaving i'm not fucking leaving i'm not fucking leaving i'm not fucking leaving i'm a bad boy why don't i get even more bad why don't i get even more bad is right but it would appear to me that i use this phrase a lot when you look at the context of the allegations against howard lutnick and you look at all the layers of them and you look at the provable lies that he has told on the public record and literally now under oath even after all this stuff came out to say that there is not a there there with this guy as it pertains to jeffrey epstein is an incredibly difficult case to make in the court of public opinion whether or not it's an incredibly difficult case to make in a courtroom where your job is to prove beyond a reasonable doubt about criminal implications of of partnerships or involvement with jeffrey epstein that's a different matter i mean look diddy didn't even get convicted for the most serious crimes because the government made an awful case and they didn't prove it beyond a reasonable doubt you know so i wish the world were as simple as you know this guy of course put him in in fucking court in front of jury's peers and you can be found guilty but it's not that simple it sure isn't that said what is simple to me is when you have awful awful specs different way to use it right there awful specs not referring to snapchat specs by the way we got to watch that these days joey i know everyone out there is a side note i know everyone is has been waiting with bated breath on the merch the merch has been ready since the summer my trademark attorney has been going back and forth with snapchat over the use of the term pure spec because they were trying to make a claim that it related to their specs lenses or whatever which is which it does not and knock on wood i was on the phone with him today and we should have talked to him about it and he was like i don't want to talk to him about it and he said we should be getting this through soon and we will be hitting the button and you guys can get hoodies and t-shirts and what else we got in there beef yeah we got beanies and we got the whole nine yards stickers yeah we got we got everything so it is coming i know everyone asks me about that every week we we've been on this it's just like you got to let the trademark thing and all that go through so just looking at the specs of it here obviously it don't look good for howard lutnick no but the specs of howard lutnick also continuing to be employed and doing it with such an indignant fuck you yeah that that don't go down right with me and and i i just take a particular hatred for people like that because he's he's telling you what i said earlier he's above you you're nothing to him your opinion what opinion i'll go courtside to the knicks in the finals what are you gonna do about it nothing nothing and i've always said this and i'll i'll say this again don't give these people what they want when they're in public do not do anything that is outside of your constitutional rights do not attack these people these people referring to the howard lutnicks of the world do not come at these people do not get in their space but you are allowed to be verbal and if you see him and want to throw him a good fuck you howard label him however you want to do it from a safe distance where you're not invading his space and no criminal things could possibly be used against you and in saying things as as is your first amendment right then you should fucking do it the fact that that guy was able to sit courtside at a knicks playoff game and then later i think in the finals maybe he was in a box and do so peacefully without being having the shit heckled out of him is an embarrassment people are so busy fucking heckling webin yama that's fine obviously he's playing against them in the finals yeah heckle the fucking guy who's friends with him with the dude kids how about that come on before we sign off joey deep happy trails what was your name again the fucking the the four-day press secretary lady oh yeah i'm zakaria what's her first name um i couldn't i didn't have time to remember it yeah um can we get it it's uh katie katie zakaria happy trails she lasted 40 percent of our moochie yep who lasted i believe 10 days during trump admin one but you know whoever made the call like i was just trying to think of like the casting room where they have each of each of the candidates like read off a dummy press reading whoever watched this lady do a press reading and said yeah that's the one you should be fired to because like she got up there like a deer in the headlights the other day it was like nails on the chalkboard while she was watching i was like oh my god she's really gonna do this yeah and it was like i said hannity crushed her that's the last time we're gonna have a chinese attorney as our press secretary first and last time that was the other thing you see trump's like double take back when they were so she was standing behind trump like in the rose garden while he's doing an impromptu presser after she just did her presser and she's like standing there like this in her sunglasses and the press like leans back and forth and she's like oh my god she's really gonna do this yeah and it was like she's really gonna do this yeah and it was like oh my god she's really gonna do this yeah and she's really gonna do this yeah and it was like oh my god she's really gonna do this yeah and she leans behind like oh my god she's really gonna do this yeah and she leans behind trump and says to her they're like trump and says to her they're like trump and says to her they're like where where are you where did you take the bar where where are you where did you take the bar where where are you where did you take the bar exam and she leans forward she goes uh when i was in china or something like that you just see trump go what yeah and come back like what the fuck did she just say yeah so apparently he went to her today and said like listen you don't need to get here you don't gotta do this yeah i gotta die i think you should leave so they're they're saying like she's stepping aside and then the reports are she was officially fired i gotta think she was fired because it's a tough one it's a tough one but you know you know what she did kimberly guilfoyle who officially resigned the other day as she was a real gem as the u.s ambassador to greece after this whole thing i know you're gonna say so so at the first press conference that train wreck 14 and a half minutes one of the three questions that zakaria took was regarding kimberly guilfoyle kimberly guilfoyle and i have the clip i think right there is it the second one the new york post one i'm trying to find it just oh fuck did i not put the clip there that's my bad but i'll kill time while deep is getting it but she's she was asked about kimberly guilfoyle who at the time had not resigned this is on tuesday and she just kind of nodded along and by the way she's also like an up talker so everything she says is like as a as a question you know which is not very helpful you're the press secretary no offense but she goes in deep scott it and is asked about kimberly guilfoyle and says this and i know somewhere tim dillon sat back and said cinema cinema here we go and i have two questions for you who can first of all on kimberly guilfoyle the daily mail has been reporting on her since last year the president said yesterday to reporters that he is considering firing her do you know a timeline for that and also potentially who could be on the short list to replace her if he does we have asked ambassador guilfoyle to resign resign she has been a wonderful asset to the team and we wish her well we wish her well okay that's it that's all they wish her well she did the little nod too we wish we wish her well but kim i think i'll talk about this next week kimberly guilfoyle allegedly has a burn book of all the drama because this is this is where trump is such a fucking liar on stuff and it is like it's it's it's kind of funny when it's a situation like this i'll admit but he was asked about guilfoyle this week he's like well i didn't know her that well this fucking lady was engaged to his son for four years she was the middle of the whole political universe for him she spoke at the gop conventions on his behalf she stood backstage with him every fucking place they went she stayed at moralaga while he was there worked in dc he named her ambassador as a oh i'm sorry after his son dumped her for epstein's banker's daughter or whatever the fuck tina anderson like and then he's like yeah i really didn't know her well didn't like what i was reading though just throws her under the bus it was fucking hilarious though but she allegedly has a burn book with a lot of information that people aren't going to want to know and there's this other guy i want to do more work on this but this trump donor eric deeters i think his name is who was at the middle of the ultimate scandal that brought her down which is that she was asking him to pay down her hundred thousand dollar plus amex bill in return for influence for something he wanted in the trump administration which was effectively like a quid pro quo which is totally illegal and so that that's what took her out but he's had some interesting things to say about where some bodies are buried and stuff like that so we're going to monitor that and probably look at that next week but shout out to katie zakaria shout out to kimberly guilfoyle we barely knew you shout out to howard lutnik i told you i'm never going to give up on you not i'm not quitting on you fucking howie i ain't quitting on you there's work to be done how work to be done howard pure spec as we say yes yes yes can't be sure of anything but rest in peace to simon andreys yeah all 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