The House That Stassi Built: Wednesday, August 5th, 2026

♪ Good morning, girlies, it's the tallos ♪ ♪ It's Jackson Claude and where you're housed ♪ ♪ It's your favorite show, the fast-five things you need to know ♪ ♪ We'll start your day off, swirly, it's the toast ♪ I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toes and Happy, hump day! Don't forget to thumbs up when you love and speaking of somebody I love. It's Jacqueline Follet. Clap if you hump. Once a week. Hey, Jackson, how are you doing? I'm doing good, co-journer. Fred. Could you join a Fred? Yeah. Drick. Drick. Drick. Drick, living life with Drick. Let's talk about his hat show. That show was fucking weird. Welcome back to the show. Hope everybody's doing great. I haven't seen you in a minute. You had a very busy day yesterday. I did. I drove back to the city, which I have not done yet. I usually go maybe a couple of times a summer. Yeah. I had a, you know, an engagement or. A brist. A brist. Yeah, last summer I went back for a brist. Yesterday I went back for like kind of a catch-up day. Like my apartment, it was a mess. So many boxes. We needed kosher meat. We were all out of food. So we had to go to the kosher grocery store. So then I drove driving back and forth in one day. Like it is really crazy. But we got done. Everything we needed to get done. The city was crazy. You know, it's like 20 degrees hotter in the city. I was sweating my ass off the entire time. But we stopped for like a nice little pargy dinner on our way back. We had sushi second. It was kind of like a pargy tie. Oh, good. I'm so glad you enjoyed it. Yeah. We mostly administrative, like anything's done for the home. But, you know, I had to get a little treat in there. Of course. I had a funny story to tell you. Actually, that I didn't tell you. And that I once tell you. A story? Yesterday, exactly, Charlie, we're out and about. I don't know exactly where they were and guess who they ran into. I don't think you're going to guess because it's like not at the tip of your tongue. Celebrity? Yeah. But you're going to be excited. Because I was actually thinking we have not seen many celebrities this summer. Every summer, we have like a couple of key look. Actually, we saw Eli Manning. Yeah, we did. Like briefly. But other than that, it has not been. Okay. So like lunch over the weekend. Actually, I saw the guy running for governor, which I wasn't very excited. We were just Blakeman. Yeah. But I had to like do a lot of work to figure out who it was because I saw a secret service. I'm like, is someone here and then like been overheard someone say that this guy's running for governor. So it wasn't really that thrilling. Understood. I guess like sort of wherever you go, like where are the celebrities? So true. Okay. What do they say? Wait, just give me like a little bit of that. Actually. That's what it's got. No. You someone that you're like you're. Denilla Galenari. No. Jalen Brunson. Close. Carl Anthony Jones. Close. Josh Hart. Josh Hart. You're kidding me. So Josh Hart. Zach and Charlie. Oh my god. Did you tell Betty? Well, free. No, I didn't. Because I didn't see you guys last night. Wait, that's so crazy. So crazy. And Zach was like, Charlie. You know, he was basketball. When Charlie was like excited. And Josh Hart like offered to take a picture with Charlie. It was Charlie's wanting to take a picture. Fucking serious. Charlie declined to photo with Josh. I kill him. Wait. What? That's so nice. By the way. Yeah. And like he asked if like Charlie could take a picture with him. And then Charlie took one. Oh my god. I'm going to kill my kid. But Josh Hart was really sweet. Oh. I want to where they were. I forget. I will find out. Oh, I got to kill him. You guys didn't tell me this. I know. That's insane. Isn't that cool? Oh my god. Ben is going to be so jealous. I know. Oh my god. That's very exciting. I have to tell Ben like where it was so we can know like that. And I just want Josh Hart to know. Like you're a king for offering the photo. Like it's on us for declining. For accepting the offer. But I think it reflects really well. Did that take one with him? No. Nobody. It's wrong with everyone. As far as we know like did they even see him? Because they did. Should this sounds like a made up story. They did see him. Yeah. We've seen like no celebrities. Mm-hmm. Try to think. No. Really not. Okay. It's actually going to be okay. I mean, no. It's not. It's going to be okay. Last summer when we ran into Sebastian Bear McClard. Like. It's sort of like made our summer. It was a benchmark of Swirly Summer. Yeah. But speaking of like Bethany. We were invited to influence our hour at Supermodel Cafe. Unfortunately we can't make it. Because it's when we record the podcast. And when we told them that. Like we thought they would make other accommodations. And they didn't seem to care. So I will have to miss out on her cottage cheese to sell it. But was she her the best in her future business endeavors? I will still try and go. Because I want to eat the Supermodel snacks. But I can't go during influence our hour. Unfortunately. Yeah. I just I feel like as an actual Supermodel. I don't need the snacks. You know, because as I said, I'm an active duty model. You are. As a retired Supermodel. I think you still like. You still need the snacks. And the girls are doing back in the field. Yeah. So we'll see if we make it out there. Yes. Other than that. Yeah. We missed you yesterday. It was hard to be away from my family for so long. And. And it was being so crazy. Like driving. You know, it's always with Ben like a race against the clock. If the car says it's going to like the GPS. If it says it's going to take two hours. So let's say Ben was like classic Ben. It says our ETA is 220. He said, I'll get you there before two. Like he always has a goal in mind. And he will do anything to reach that goal. And he's driven back to the city like twice without me this summer. And I actually shuttered to think what he did because a couple of times. I was like, you actually can't do that. Like I'm all about, you know, cutting off. You know, a little of this, a little of that. He's crazy. Like he will drive on the other side of the highway if there's no cars coming. Yeah. Seriously. He would drive on the other side of that. 1000%. And anything just to shave a minute. Like just one minute. And it was actually like a couple of times like a little bit scary. And I. And he went to the city like two weeks ago by himself. And he was like, I made it back in under 90 minutes, which by the way, you guys, it's insane. It's insane time. Yeah. And now that I'm thinking about it, I shuttered to think what he had to go through to reach that time. He was being so crazy. That's so crazy. But I'm glad because you got home at like a very brief and a blower. He did make amazing time both there and back. So like I wasn't really complaining. I was just like shocked. Yeah. I know he's always like a crazy GPS person and he'll do anything to shave a minute. Like he's so fucking crazy. It was on another level. Okay. Well, last night's warranted because like you guys needed to get back in there. It was a long day. Like not at midnight. Of course. It was a long day. My episode of story time came out. Yes. I hope you all watched and enjoyed it with your children listening. It's a podcast for kids. So like you can listen in the car with your kids. It's on YouTube. So watch the video and it's just like two little graphics like the camber. Just like running. They animated the camper. They animated the camber. It's like a high death visuals of the book. And it's so great. So cute. You really get to like see the up close details of the book. Yeah. It was really cute. So if you haven't watched it yet. I didn't know they made like podcasts for children, but I guess like why not? Yeah. That's like how we sometimes in the car listen to stories. It's like a Tony. Yeah. Like if the sometimes asked for like Paw Patrol story. We're need deep in Tonyville over here you guys. We're having a party. A sandwich party. Five, six, seven, eight. I will say not all of the Tony's are great. But like whatever we have, I just like throw it in the play pen and they get played. So they're not like my choice, but it's not my Tony. No, it's for the children. They have like a lot of originals. Um, in addition to like the characters that you don't love. And I will say like some of the originals like the songwriting is definitely lacking. Like sandwich parties. I think so. And which party is an amazing Tony. It's not. It's like a seagull, right? The duck. Yeah. It's all about if you meet a seagull at the beach. Like don't give it your food. It's a good message. And it's a good song. You just sort of popped off with that. Yeah. Well, my version is obviously like pussy popping. And you know, my favorite Tony. Beethoven's wig. My favorite Tony is Brown Bear Narrated by Weth Paltrow. You know, I'm they get the brought the Tony's get they do get annoying. Like when you play them so many times and her voice hers is long. And it annoys me the least. No, I'm sorry. Also shout out the velveteen rabbit narrated by Meryl Streit. Yeah. I don't know why you're kind of like just sort of like starry eyed for celebrity Tony's. I don't feel. You don't know why? Because I guess you're like. I'm like a starfucker loser. Yeah. I don't know why you exactly just my head. I thought you would be like more about the music. No, because like for me like a Tony that's narrated by a celebrity is like a convergence of me and Ruby's interests. I guess, but they're just like not the best one. I disagree. But we also love my show. That's something we. Hello music lovers. Yes. There are a lot of good Tony's. We all just like quote them all day long. But you guys need Beethoven's wig. It's like classical music. And the guy who like narrates it and he puts lyrics to all these like Beethoven songs. He reminds me so much at the end sterling. Mm-hmm. And even the song you were singing yesterday. Do-do-do-do. Yeah. He sings. I want my diploma. That's funny. No, he also does. I've tried to tell you it's fun. Here's a short Beethoven piano piece. This piano piece is for a lease. It's all about a fella named Maurice who went from Greece. It's good. It's teaching kids Beethoven, but he's funny. He does remind me to be in sterling. So funny. He has one song that's sitting in traffic. So you guys get Beethoven's wig. Yeah. It's just been like a Tony girl summer. It is a Tony boy summer. Oh right. All the boys. Right. I forgot. Yeah. All the boys know the ones in twos. What are we doing today? Like we need to come up with party lunch plans. Oh. We were just discussing. I'm so hungry. Well, actually, I watched started house of sausage last night. It's just a story. I just want to talk about it right now. I need to hear not a story. I haven't finished it. But you go. I watched two episodes so far. And like, I really have been itching to watch it because I've been seen so much discourse online. And it seems like the sort of subject matter that I would like really find interesting. Definitely. It's not what people thought it was going to be. And it ends up like being like an actual like expose on sausage life and like all of her relationships, both like friends and family. That's what I've seen so far. So right now, and that seems to be like the. The theme is that like Stasian bow and like their marriage and this and that. So like, but watching it so far, I feel like I don't know how to explain like a little bit different than what I thought. I was going to feel watching it um it's definitely they're they're shaking up the genre a little bit with like the fourth wall stuff Which like shows have been doing for a while even in secret lives like we hear the producer questions Yeah, and they talk about who's filming who's not filming so like that's not like totally new to me, but um Susan reality TV watcher true, but um I thought it was really interesting and like I Feel like I missed some stuff having not watched Vanderpump villa because like the first has shoot fight is about this fight That stocy and boasting to a pat on Vanderpump with villa that she won't get his tattoo his name tattooed on her Yes, I didn't watch Vanderpump I didn't give Vanderpump villa either. I didn't watch Vanderpump villa But there's a lot of stuff also with his sister Bose sister that I'm sort of riding blind on because I didn't watch that And I know there's a thing about the tattoo, but like I didn't watch it I think this huge ball fight at the villa that he got a tattoo of his sister's name He has a lot of tattoos and he will not tattoo stocy's name on him and like she Flipped out like and then everybody gets pulled into their fight and they all saw like this side of her that they've never seen before They were also scared. Yeah, and then the first like tattoo conversation is like everyone talking about their big feelings like from that night But I do feel like I sort of miss that but yet the dynamics I'm like sort of catching up on like the sister Mm-hmm. It's also crazy that everyone has the same name I was just saying to you that they sort of changed Taylor Donahue's name for the show to Teddy and I'm like I'm shocked because I know where as Taylor and they're the tailors. Okay. I have to so I've seen a lot of discourse about this people being like It's so weird that they changed her name and I just want to say they did not change her name But if they did I actually would have appreciated that of course the sisters have the same Georgie Georgiana and Taylor and Taylor like yeah and bow and bow and bow and bow and bow Everyone was the same name if let's say that was the case People need to stop giving them shit for it because it's actually respectful as fuck, but I have to tell you guys Literally five years ago when I was at the tailors somebody called Taylor Teddy and I'm like who's Teddy and they're like What are you talking about everybody calls Taylor Donahue Teddy? I'm like no, we don't like I've never called you that in my life They're like what are you talking about everyone calls Taylor Teddy and ever since that day like Ben started calling her Teddy and like sometimes I do too because it does make it more Effective method of communication and you know what everyone really does call her Teddy especially Stasian bow like whenever I think that the Teddy nickname actually originated with like Taylor's LA friends and when she goes to LA It's not made up, but it never like hit mainstream mm-hmm and I think a lot of people are having trouble with it But even if it was this like methodical thing like we should be appreciating that. It's very confusing Yes, it is confusing and and so I understand why they did that now It seems like Stasia's like made this decision like I've got my own show so many people get their own show just to lose it Because you know it's fake and it's like and those people do also have like sort of the backstory that she has how this is like a big comeback Yes, so this like means a lot to her yes, and most shows like aren't good and it's because like we feel the Factor drama. We're gonna get a pet monkey like yeah, and Stasia's like made the decision to bleed out They are everything about her life the good the bad and the ugly like for the sake of the podcast the good the bad and the baby The baby. Oh his handles the bogey. Yeah, but they don't do that one anymore. Do they not? I don't think so because now it's just not so. Yeah, it's her podcast has evolved over the years But she's made the decision like if you want to you know tell me something mean by myself do it on camera like I know Conversation that's off limits like even you know her Even her as a mom, which I would think is a conversation. That's why I haven't like seen some of that stuff yet but so they start filming the show and It's you can see like bow is Unhappy a little bit and he goes to talk to Taylor Strecker and he starts crying and then Taylor Strecker goes to Stasia and like by the way Taylor Strecker is just Like moving like such a queen. She's making us proud and she and you know what I feel that like who she is in real life Is actually translating really um Honestly, and like I think she's getting a lot of shit because she's talking about how like you know Taylor Donnie You has to go back to New York. I haven't gotten there yet, but like she's weighing missing the birth of and I just want to say every time I see a clip I like make a judgement and then when I see it in the context of the show I just it everything feels different. Yeah, I just like feel different watching the show even like Katie and Stasi Which remind me I want to get back to that so Taylor goes to Stasi and says like your husband cried to me and Stasi is Floored. Yeah, she didn't know her husband was unhappy that he was thinking anything that he thought this way That he never once really said to her recently like I do want to go back to work and so she says like of course like having an unhappy Husband like this isn't really a great time like we're filming a show of course, but we've already started filming so like You know here we go like let's get into all of it and like I really can't imagine a world where like Bow Would not would amma stasi Consult stasi and be like we're gonna talk about this yeah, or that she truly hadn't zero clear that he's not Super happy or just like the dynamic that they've set up where he is like a stay-at-home dad Isn't working for him like this is the first time you're hearing that no, but it does make very interesting And I will say like yeah, she's going where really nobody is going. Yeah a lot of these conversations are so private She's going where no one has gone before like for a reason. Yeah, there's a reason. I know when he's gone there before It's so personal and but I think it's also like a testament to how strong she believes her relationship is Yeah, that they can get that they can withstand this they can have their like ugly Warts all conversations on this show, but like there's no doubting that they will be together So yeah, I think it's a good way to look at it. It's a sign of strength. It's confusing Yeah, for me, it's just confusing because like before I know like she has this need to come back, right? Like she was the Queen of Interprone brules and it got taken from her like the fact that she's coming back now with her own show Like a bigger platform like it's such a slight. I totally get it But to me it's like she's bleeding out sharing like so many dark parts of her life and just like private things That she really doesn't have to because she had made a successful comeback in my eyes before this The podcast is huge. It's on Netflix people just love her her books I think she's written two since she left Interprone brules like she is three books to total fashion week Like she's just like she's just that girl like you honestly when they were never going to keep her down, right? So to me she has had like an insanely successful comeback already I can't really understand why like You would want to now open up all these like just so no everyone's judging like her as a mom and her as a wife and her as a friend and it's like I know she wants it so bad. So like I respected like I could never imagine like successfully coming back and like to me Like that would have just been enough But I guess she has this like insane itch for reality TV because that's really how she got her star. Yeah, and like for Her that's like the the peak of the mountain is like being on TV having your own show Is that he having us getting a spin off like from banner pump rules? And so I understand why that's what she wanted And now that she has it she's not gonna lose it because like people get shows often and they amount to not much But she's not gonna I think they already have a season two she's giving the show like absolutely everything that she has I also want to say I think the title is like the name of the show is so perfect. Yeah, like seriously Toasty lion. Yeah, of course. We know she loves Game of Thrones House of Stasi But like everyone's like living in her house everyone orbits around her Is like the house of Stasi. I also don't understand how she has this huge house and her two sisters are living with her The Georgian Georgina and they're both like sleeping in a murphy bed in what looks to be like an office in the basement There is not another bedroom in this huge house. Yes We can you just you said you wanted to talk about Katie So I was like I role Katie and Tassie and they build it as the fact that like you know There's nothing like Katie and Stasi on TV together and where it's like I more so come from the camp of like There's nothing like Stasi on TV together Katie like never move the needle for me same. That's exactly how I felt I'm like, I don't need Katie. I don't need this like tie back to Vanderpump to make this work for me however like I don't know Katie just like like She like look good. She felt good She's very clear that Katie is is in a happy place in her life And that is coming through like all facets. I think she's in a really good relationship And I think that like Vanderpump rules ending for a lot of people was like devastating for her Kind of like the best thing it got her away from Tom and I think we were used to seeing her for like the last decade on TV Like she was just an unhappy person. She was in a bad marriage like she they were having a lot of problems So yes, it is she's not as like phabissana as we remember her No, but and she she does she's like a different, you know vibe. She's not swirling. Like she's her. No, she's not swirling sort of energy But I don't know she felt very solid and I was like happy to see her They were sort of like talking about the time in between Stasi getting fired right and then Them stopping being friends and the way that Stasi described it is like tea, you know, because she was like She sort of felt like Katie was always talking about Vanderpump And it's like I was fired and I want to be there and I can't be there. And like you're just over here being like oh my god Yeah, and she was like I was crying to about postpartum stuff and you're just like talking about Vanderpump Vanderpump Vanderpump in case and Katie didn't even remember that conversation and Stasi's like that's the point like you weren't listening And I do think at that time like those two people can't be friends just different places But then I think once you and they said it's actually good that we weren't friends for a while because we both Got to like grow and become who we are and like these two like mature whole women can be friends with one another You know Stasi's done a lot of press, but she did not do watch what happens live And I don't believe that since leaving she's been on watch it happens live But like Kristen had been on before she was on the valley like she eventually like you know came back into the fold I do wonder like what the relationship is like they were at they did like a huge press day at serious exam because Taylor Striker was like freaking out and they didn't do radio Andy I do feel like there is bad blood between bravo proper and Andy or excuse me and Stasi in the show Probably they don't use footage from Vanderpump rules everything that's like talking about Stasi's like come up Is all photos um, I mean she did like leave NBC and now she's in the Disney family Bravo like had has historically like let go of so many people that they like oh it's so insurious like they just bring them back They like you know fire them because the fans are mad or like there's like you know lots of drama But they always come back but they don't have like the secret live stars on I think it's more so the network drama versus like Stasi versus Bravo. Yeah, but up until even before Stasi was like a Hulu Swirley, she was not on watch rems. I like doing her bunch. She was promoting her tour or her books. Yeah. I just think it's interesting. I would love to know like there's definitely drama there. Yeah. Also, then there was like a conversation about China. She has come up a couple times and like it's actually crazy to me that China is actually Stasi's off in real life. Yes. The name she needs until it comes out of her mouth. I thought I was just like an old coworker that she doesn't like. I mean, we all forget that like remember that storyline when Stasi had, I don't know if it was like a sex tape or like nude photos, like she knows what's like the one showing it to everyone. Like not leaking it, but like, yeah, allegedly she was the one who was like sending it around. So it's like, yeah, that's your opt for fucking life. Yeah. Like when Jesse Jayper comes in, it's like, see, you need to try to get on secret lives. I'm like, China. I know. I didn't like why are we talking about like why are we giggling, snickering that China? I have like, we have our own show now, like why are we talking about China? I have conflict conflicted feelings about China because like, yeah, it's like funny. Everyone's always like making fun. I actually do feel like she's like a gr, like she has grown up and she's like a sweet girl. And I think she's always the butt of the joke. So when Jesse Jayper came on, I was just like kind of like, like, I kind of hated that. Yeah, I didn't think that Jesse Jayper was just like saying it because it's like a joke now. Like, there's a tsunami in Africa and people are like, well, what is she to say? I think it's like a joke that she makes everything about herself. And I just feel like Jesse Jayper was just kind of like, like hopping on the train of like, making fun of China and just kind of felt like low, like, I feel like Stasi has a legitimate gripe with China and if she wants to talk about her on her show, like go for it. But Jesse Jayper just bringing that item up. Yeah. I just didn't know why we were talking about China. Like, we've come so far and like, we're so high up. Yeah. We're so high up. And then there's also this theme that like Stasi and Bo were kind of on the outs with everyone in their life. Like, Georgie, the sister, Rob, Bose friend Rob and it's like, they're starting the show and they want these people on the show and Katie, she was on the outs with. And so it's like, we want to mend so that you'll be on our show. And also like, where, like, what happened to all your friendships and relationships? And I do want to say, like, when you're a parent of young children, like, those sort of, it's not a priority. They cool off for a period, but not to appointment, like, you need to have like, you know, conversation. Repro schmois. It's just like a matter of timing and logistics. So it's, it's odd to me that sort of everyone's been sort of pushed away. Oh, wait. Can we talk about Christina Kelly? I haven't really seen her yet. Yeah. I like, I have one memory of Christina Kelly on very proper roles because she was like a very much a side character and I think that's even like an overestimation of her contributions to the show. Um, and the one scene I remember is like when she was getting married, she wasn't invited and she's like sitting at her house gig, like making fun of Christina's dress. It was like truly the definition of being girl. And I have never been able to see her as anything other than that. I think the whole world feels that way because she had come on the show so many other times in the future, like, and never was a cast member, never was chosen by Bravo. Like, I think everybody when she goes for Q score testing is like the crop top. Yeah. The crop top. And I think that's like sort of an underlying thing of her beef with Katie is like, she's almost like 50 feet from startup. Like she can't quite get there. And I think that this show was like, you know, to be on it as a cast member. Like finally, I'm going to get my shot. And then Katie comes and it just sort of demotes her because like, yeah, Christina Kelly was like the one remaining link for Vanderpump rules, but it's hardly a link. She was barely on the show. Katie coming on just really eradicated the need for Christina in general, except that Christina is actually sad. Yeah, and there's like history there and they have interesting like arguments and stuff because they have a real friendship, but I just, she doesn't do it for me. Yeah. So my takeaway at this moment is just a shock that someone is willing to share this much like personal details of their life, their family, their friendships, their children, their everything family dynamics, like everything, like in service of success. Yeah. I think though that like becoming like the female, the breadwinner in your house as a woman, like I think maybe not on the exact same level, but I think it's kind of a relatable thing for some women who are the breadwinners where like their husbands like don't know what to do with themselves. And like it's obviously like the whole male ego gender stereotype type thing, but then it's also it's like, well, it's lovely that you want to go back to work, but like why wouldn't you take care of the kids? I'm not going to. Like I'm the one paying all the bills. So it's like, it's very hard. She like says to him, I will pay you to not go back to work because I can pay you more than your job. And I just want to say like, well, I love a man who wants to work. So like I think that that's good and all men should work all the time. Like his obsession with going back into casting, when like you could work with saucy, like you and it would be so much more financially beneficial, fruitful than going into casting, which like I don't think he was like slaying at before. No, he said he was. He had a 17 year career. Sorry. I'm talking money. Yeah. Compared to saucy. Like because we're at a different level now. So it's like at some point it's opportunity cost, right? Yes. You'll good, but at what cost? So yeah, that was like, it's like frustrating. But I think it's like it's sort of in its own way, relatable to other women who are the breadwinners. Yes. And it's funny because she goes to an unwell event and she's like talking to Alex Cooper. And she was just like, you know, they're complimenting each other at whatever. And then she was like, where, what areas in your life are you struggling? Cause like, I'm a bad wife. I'm a bad friend. I'm a bad sister. Like, where, what areas suffer for you? That's really funny. Alex was like, you know, it's giving like I have bad breath in the morning. She was like, also like, Alex is notoriously like she doesn't really share. So it's like I'm certainly not going to share on your show what's wrong with my life. She said that she is health issues like her health. She does have gestational diabetes. Did you say pregnancy? But maybe it's like she gets sick a lot, you know, like, well, immune system, but maybe like some hard immune. But yeah, it was like, um, it was just sort of funny because obviously she's not going to tell us right now right here, but all this idea that like something always has to suffer. Right. Like is true for a lot of working women, something always has to suffer at the altar of greatness. You know, I think if you want to like say yes to everything in your career, things will suffer. Things, something is going to suffer if you say yes to everything in this bucket. You know, if you want to have a more balanced life, you take some things out of that bucket and you put them into other buckets. But if you're going, going, going the way that like Alex is and it's not he is something will suffer Alex at that point did not have children, so you know, you have a, it's a different. A lot more not even a little more. You have complete focus. Yep. Your husband works with you. You guys spending all that time together, it's different. Yeah. But it was just funny. Okay. What's suffering for you today? Let's dive in. I feel like we kind of did, but I, yeah, it wasn't a story, but yes, let's dive into the fast five stories that you need to do need to know. And the fast five stories that you need to know are brought to you by Vivrel. Oh, my. Yeah. 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It's available online and nationwide at Kroger, Target, and your favorite local grocery retailer. Thank you, grocery turt-teller. You're welcome. Our first-- Could you be in grocery turt-tetti? No, I need a tailor. OK. Our first story, crazy, crazy saga last night. Perez Hilton was rushed to the hospital after live streaming an apparent self-harming video in his Miami home. So last night, Perez Hilton went live on TikTok for about 30 minutes. Which he does, like, all the time. That's like his new, for a while now. Like, he's like a TikToker. Yeah. And it was about 30 minutes. He was naked and covered in blood, cutting himself up with a knife. And he had, like, literally, like a sourdough knife, like a bread knife. I think it was just chopping himself. I saw the video this night. He was chopping himself up. Jogo, looking for it. It's deeply graphic and very disturbing. I believe, like, police were called to his home. Yes. They received multiple calls of an individual live streaming acts of self-harming on social media. When he said, like, he called the cops, I want them to shoot me dead. He was really-- And then he was taken to the hospital where he is now recovering. Yeah. I saw, like, a little bit of the-- It's really-- I think what the photos-- They were, like, the videos I saw were, like, very blurry. So it's like, you've got the idea of what it is, but I don't mean to see that all up close. I hope that, you know, like, people are giving, you know, grace. And like, this is a person who has, you know, at people's worst moments, like, gone so low. I think, like, people, like, his worst-- people always love to bring up Britney Spears, like, when she was having her, like, there's so many. And so, you know, I hope he doesn't, you know, receive from people what he has historically given. This is a very hard topic to discuss. Honestly, if I'm being serious, like, this is a person who's just, like, caused so much hurt. Myself included. Yeah, and awful person. He is an awful person, but, like, awful people, like, don't deserve to, like, you know, struggle. I don't-- honestly, seriously, I don't know what to say. Yeah. I wish him the best. And I hope he gets the recovery that he needs. He is a dad. He has three kids. And, like, that's really, like, the priority and that's scary. But, like-- Yeah. I had read the kids were not home at the time, which, thank God, because I-- I mean, people were watching this millions of miles away, scared, imagine, like, seeing that in person. I actually can't even imagine. So, thank God that they were not there. I hope he gets the help he needs. I think, like, public life is bad for him. I think it's been dead for a while. And, like, whatever led to this is addressed, as well. Yes. Like, just, I really just wish you the best. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. This next story is really exciting news. And I just-- I'm really excited for you, OK? The voice of celebrity edition has been greenlit at NBC. So the voice is currently in production. Don't even start-- Don't even start. Voice celebrity, which we'll see actors, musicians, influencers, athletes, comedians-- I actually know someone who's on it. Who? I don't know if I can say it in real world. And reality TV starts competing instead of on Discover Town. So it's, like, the voice show, except instead of, you know, on Discover Town, it's people, like, perfect. Yeah, it's a good casting. People, like, the person she just told me, and people, like, Claudia. It's people, like, Claudia. I just want to say-- It's not the message. I have not been reached out to. Do not come. Don't ask me because I'm going to feel like I have to do it. And I really don't want to, like, Mike, I'm good. I love this concept. I love when, like, traditional shows do celebrity versions, like celebrity family viewed. And there are a lot of celebrities, like, I guess, if you're an actor or whatever, like, you're a theater kid. So, like, almost all of them sings. Or you're, like, comfortable being on camera. Like, Remi Bader has a really good voice. I think Alex Cooper has a really good voice. She does. I think I may be the only one in this field who doesn't have a good voice. Taylor Strecker has an amazing voice. Do you know that about her? No. Oh, but it makes, by the way, it makes complete sense. Like, you're a theater kid. At theater kid, like, you've always liked the spotlight because you've always, like, been good for the spotlight because you have a nice voice, and then, you know, being a pop star or actress doesn't work out for you. And it's, like, past me the mic. Press record, yeah. I love this concept. I'm so curious who they're going to cast. I hope this becomes like a dancing with a star's type of thing. Like, I love shows like this, like, where it just becomes a place for, like, actors on their right up on their right down. So, reality TV influencers, like, just another place like traders are dancing with the stars. So, I love it. - I love it. I wonder if they're exclusively going to be casting good singers, because I feel like with the mass singer, that was their goal. But then, like, eventually, you run out of people who can sing and you start casting, like, Teddy Malinkas. - So, the voice in general does not cast bad singers. - Yeah. - There's never, like, a bad addition. It's just there might not be amazing, but most of the time someone does turn its not meant to, like, expose people who can't sing. So, I think it will be people who can carry a tune. - I, like, let me tell you, I'll be sad. Like, I love this. - I love it too. - I love it as a few, where I would, like, I think it's such a good idea. - Yeah. Maybe Ben could do it. - Ben actually has a fine singing voice. - Yeah, you know, he'll audition with you. - Would he raise me up? - Yeah, because he always starts in the wrong key. He's like, "When I am down." - And actually, when he gets going, it's very powerful. - Okay, maybe this will change things for you. One of the announced, any of the contestants. - One of the coaches will be Joe Jonas. - Oh, yeah. That's not going to change for me. Queen Latifa, like, yeah, if I can be guaranteed to be on Queen Latifa's team. - And Riley Green. - We try to like the voice. - Is it like the voice where you go and, like, what if nobody turns for you? - Yeah. - Oh, I can't. No, I would never. - Yeah. - You know, I have such a pure projection when it comes to singing. - Yeah. - That's why I had to bow out of the massacre before I eliminated it. - But if you wanted to, like, be close with Joe Jonas, like, now's your time. - Yeah, but I would be taking the process seriously when I feel like who could actually help me musically. Like, it's Queen Latifa. We have similar voices. - And then I was like, ♪ Big blonde and beautiful ♪ Also, major voice news is that Kiki Palmer will be the new host of the voice. - Oh, man, I saw that Carson Daly was backing out, but they were clickbaiting me on the today's show Instagram. Tap the link in our bio to find out who's replacing. And so, obviously, I didn't. So, I never was able to find out. - Well, here you go. - That's such great news. We didn't. I'm so happy. - Yeah, even though, like, the voice is not about the host. - Like, not at all. - I didn't really barely remember that it's Carson Daly. - And that's how you know who's doing a good job. - Yeah, 'cause, like, a host is just, like, the background. So, I kind of, like, would like her to be somewhere more, where it's what it is about her. But yeah, but I didn't think I'd keep her booked in busy. That's good, you know, 'cause I don't want her to get, like, you know, in your board, then you, like, rely on your man a lot. And it could be bad for a relationship. So, hopefully, if she stays booked in busy, like, Sean and her, just, like, or maybe this, like, brings her to LA, and maybe Sean's in LA, 'cause she was previously in New York. I saw this, and I wasn't sure. I was like, I wasn't sure if those guest celebrity judges were the judges for the new season, the regular voice. - Very confusing. I'm like, really trying to understand. What's the show called the voice celebrity? I feel like they could've done better with that. Yeah. I'm very excited. I agree. It's like another tier of shows that yeah. Traitor is dancing with a star. It's like for people to just go on. But like a mass singer is flawed in the sense that like you don't get the press until you're done. Of course, you know, when it's like you're working so hard on TV and nobody knows it to do this whole show. I was like, could we make this clues really obvious? So like everybody knows that it's me. You do this whole show and your name's on the paper once until the end until the end. And then you're gone. The headlines are all about you quitting. Like so this I actually think is like a better format. I completely agree. I'm not doing it. And if I were here, so I would audition. What would I audition with? Thank you just watch me on the mask. You could do unstoppable. I like that. I could. Yeah, I don't want to sing right now. Oh, she shy, but also hopefully this show was very successful and maybe in like 10 years when you're ready for it. Right. When everyone's grown and I'm ready to take on new projects. Yeah. Then you could do it. And it would be like a big success. I just want to say like good job to everyone who did this. I love it. I hope the casting is like on point. Um, even some of the people where me made it should be on it. She's a very good. Like I want them to include people are so afraid of like casting influencers. Like no, we love that. Like it was more. Yeah. Like athletes. That's fun. Yeah, it's fun. But like they can never sing. So yeah, they have to do like yeah, they have to pull from all pockets of media. So yeah, give us an athlete some real housewives. Oh, I'm sure we'll get universes on there. Well, she's not candy birds. We'll get like Luan. Okay. Did you see that? They had that real housewives. Um, like 20th year anniversary party last night. Yeah. Luan is so funny. Our friend Kristen was there was watching her Instagram stories and like, Luan is just like seriously singing her own song to a crowd of three people. They all were leasing our singing baby gorgeous. And let me tell you, Portia was singing baby gorgeous with Lisa Barlow, just like being a supportive background answer. And she knew every word. I actually was like very touched by that. That's very sweet. Yeah, not just I only know the first three words. You're just baby. Good job for words. I think baby gorgeous. It's like a high. Well, I can't wait to watch. I can't wait to watch. When does it premiere fall? Probably. I don't know if it's this fall. But I guess why not? Is it live like we're all voting live? No, it's the same format as the voice. The voice is live. Oh, really? The auditions are pre taped. And then when they have like the top 20, we vote every week like American Idol. Okay, there will be new features though. And this one, such as voice boot camp, which will give viewers a behind the scenes. Look at celebrities prepared for their blind audience. Okay, cute. We get more like celebrity packages. Well, the VIP depends on the celebrities are VIP room will bring the artists together to watch their fellow celebrities take. So it's like, no, I'm so sad for this. Yeah, me too. I'm excited. Me too. Okay, are you ready for our next story? One of her three. Yeah. Britney Cartwright is finally weighing in on Jack's Taylor's publicist romance with a scathing takedown. So Britney Cartwright did a video with the magazine. And she talked about the relationship. She said, I never wish bad for anybody, but they have to be absolutely miserable. And I hope they are. She said, I don't wish bad on anybody, but I hope they're miserable. I feel like I was taken advantage of by those two individuals and it is sick. Later in the video, she labeled him a narcissist who doesn't have feelings and claimed that he had straight up told an unnamed person that he had slept with Lori. She said, I've never seen a snake like this before in my entire life, seemingly referring to Lori KPR. Yeah, I mean, like, I hate to put more blame on the woman. But like Jackson, her are divorced. He's been a piece of shit. Like, we know that he was so awful abusive to her. Like, my bar for expectations for Jackson when it comes to like giving Britney like a modicum of respect. He almost let her get evicted from the house with their son. Like, he's a piece of shit. But like this working woman who was still like actively collecting checks from Britney, that's insane. Yeah. And that she would turn his her name. Yeah. So thoroughly. Cause she has other clients. Of course, she's like in a big well known reality TV publicist. And then do you see this smart water thing? I did see the smart water thing. So a Jack's Taylor had posted an Instagram ad for smart water, the water brand. And then he went on his Twitter claiming that like his Instagram was hacked by an AI company. No, so he posted an ad for smart water. And like, people were like, you're not doing ads for smart water. And it's like a really top-tier brand. Yeah. Of course. I think a smart water like might have even said the same. And then he shared like he got sort of catfished by a marketing company. He shared the screenshots of the emails and like all the stuff to say that like he thought he was doing an ad for smart water. And he was fooled. It was not a prank, but just scam. But I have a couple key questions. But wait, also people then notice that that screenshot he shared of the fake email he got was like generated by AI. It had like an AI logo in the corner. Like he had asked AI to make it for him. Or oh, he had asked AI to make it for him. Or like someone AI sent it to him now. So, you know, you can't see it. Interesting. Yeah, that's what I had heard. Okay. Well, a couple things like one, you're dating a publicist like if this is like a fishing scam, like the fact that she couldn't see through it like doesn't really speak highly correct ever were to like, did they pay you? You know, yeah, I'm not sure. That was funny. Yeah, but then he was like, I think you have to remember like a lot of the people from Venom are like over 40 years old. Yeah. Oh, you mean like that. This is like boomer behavior. I guess. And then he was like saying about Brittany, like his Brittany went on and like laughed at him about it. Good. And he was like, you know, she's not mean enough to him, honestly. She's not him, like letting the mortgage payments pile up and like forcing Brittany to live in the Airbnb with crews while he's lapping it up with girls in their family home, like trash. Yeah, trash behavior. Yeah, but I do think like for him, all chickens have come home to roost really. Like you think like his that he has the consequences of the actions have finally caught up in some sort of way. I don't think so. No longer on the show. That was a huge loss for him. He's not getting brand deals. No. All he has now is a girlfriend, came on a dream and a girlfriend. I mean, that's like good woman in your life. Yeah, but like if she's can't earn a living either. Right, right. But over the years, they've made so much money. I was thinking about that with Katie Maloney, too, because on the one day, I was like, oh gee, Cassney asking you to come like be on her show and you're acting like I just got away from reality TV. Like I can't go back. It's like if you're a reality TV star and influencer and notable person, like that's a dream is to be on a show. Yeah. And how are you affording to like not work? Yeah. But she made a lot of money over there. Did she spend a lot of money? So those like, oh gee, Vanderpump, Cassney, it's like China, um, towards the end, we're making so much money. And they never like lived in St. Louis. A lot of them were like living in those apartments up until like three years ago. And they got like homes in the valley. But and that was like after they had been making a lot of money for a long time. And I think like more of these rates were low. Yeah. I do think like it runs out quickly. But I don't think Katie Maloney's in a place where she's like desperate yet, but she would be silly to turn it down. Yeah. I wonder if she like saved her money over the years because if she did, she has a lot of money. Well, they had that house, right? Her and Tom. Yeah, which they sold it. Yeah. They definitely did well on that house. They did find they definitely didn't lose money. And again, it was like low mortgage rate. That's why what was also so crazy about Jackson, Brittany, when he was like, she was saying he didn't pay the mortgage or whatever. But when they bought their houses like, seriously, like 2% interest rates. So I'm like, how much could your mortgage be? Right? But then it turned out he had taken out second and third mortgages to pay off old debts. Their mortgage payment was up to like $18,000 a month when it should have been like 2000 max. Oh my God. That's terrible. Yeah. Did she still live in that house? Or did they sell it? I don't know. I feel like she lives there. I feel like she lives there and also like for the valley and everything. Yeah. Right. She has to be in the valley. But they were like such in a good financial position that he totally fucking squadron. Hey, kind of like to your troster just yesterday. Yeah. Sort of, but no, this is worse. Yes. This is worse. So yeah. I don't know how to end the stories anymore. I feel that that's a real issue for many Americans. 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Sources are saying it's a declaration of their love but Daily Mail is saying like they got married last month. Like I don't care, these two as a couple I do nothing for me. I also think that like this is what you do like when people care about your relationship so much that you get no privacy, Tom Holland and Zendaya. Like if they ever were planning an actual wedding, it would be like seriously, people are so obsessed with them. It would be like Taylor Swift and Travis, like the hiding, the drones, nobody cares about Bradley Cooper and like G.G. Heartede getting married. Like you want to get married, go have a wedding. No one's coming. So I think that this is like kind of for attention. You think so? I think they want attention actually. No, I think they do. I don't know, I think I guess they're married 'cause I personally like never, kind of how like with Kristina Kelly, the only thing I can remember about her is that really mean things she said about you in a show. To me, the only thing I can really, like I never moved on from the restaurant of him doing that movie, like Maestro. When he was just like trying so hard to win an Oscar and like nobody cared. And then he also wore the fake nose, which was just like low-key, anti-semitic. But like wasn't, I wasn't that upset. Like I just, to me that made him a loser in my eyes. And I never was able to see him as anything other than that as a loser. I guess. I just sort of like expected that he'd be like the sort of guy who, you know, have relationships. Different men get married. Yeah, 'cause he always has like a relationship that seems good like Irene and Tuki. And now he's like straight up wearing a wedding ring, which I think like getting a wedding ring on a guy like this, like is a big deal. And impossible feet so he's not doing it like for vibes. 'Cause I don't think he wants to be wearing that. That's actually a good point. Like his bachelor status that does make this a big deal. Yeah. Like seriously, I wish I'm the best. Like I, I don't know, they just, there are a couple of people like, when we talk about like Kim and Louis Hamilton. Like I should care. Like obviously Bradley Cooper is finally married. Oh my god, hard to bring him everywhere. I don't care. Yeah. Something just to move the needle from me. Yeah. Her rate like remains resting. I agree, but they haven't together for a while. So if you want to go ahead and get married, like that seems like the thing to do. And I just like this co-parenting group is gonna be a lot because it's Bradley and Irene. Irene, Zane, it just feels, anywhere Zane is, it just feels like drama. Hopefully he doesn't push Bradley Cooper's mother down the stairs. Hopefully he doesn't. Then like Lady Gaga, you know? Lady Gaga, right. Like it's just kind of a crazy group. Yeah, and I'm wishing them all the best. Yeah, agreed. One of the best times of my life was when we had to like, report for that week, like every new detail that was coming out about the alleged elder abuse from Zane Malik and Yolanda Hadid. Yeah. And then did you go back together with him one more time after that, right? I think so. That's crazy to like lay with the man who pushed your mom down the stairs. It's like use of elder abuse. Yeah. Like there are some egregious things to be accused of. That is elder abuse is up there with like the worst. Yeah. Like pedophilia and child abuse. Yeah. Because it's like praying on the vulnerable, you know? Yeah, of course, those who can't defend themselves. Absolutely. Yeah, quarterly reminder that he was accused of that. Just quarterly. Are you ready for a fifth and final story? Chloe Kardashian's new show The Girls gets a trailer and a premiere date at Hulu. So we knew that Chloe was producing a show called The Girls About Her Best Friends, you know. The girls we all know who have like 3 million followers are always with the Kardashians. Yeah, they all have like halibut's around the same age. So it's Nat and Liv Malika and Khadija and Iris. Who is a close friend of Kylie, who's now like really in the group, but she also is a child. So I think they're all like the moms. They say like the trailer was basically like there's like this divide amongst the group that like Nat Liv and Natalie are like this trio. Nat Liv and Natalie. Nat Liv and Nicole are like this trio. Nicole and Nicole Williams, English, who's on the cup. And then Malika, Khadija and Iris are like this other like trio. And it's just sort of like making it difficult to be in the group. But it's like, well, it sounds like you just have two groups. Like why do we have to be one? Like it's very much sounds like the home friends versus the college friends because Malika, Khadija and Iris are like the home friends there, especially Malika and Khadija have been there forever. And Nat and Liv and Nicole are newer friends. I know we're like meant to believe that they've always been friends. But when this point, it's been a while, but compared to Malika and Khadija. But when Nat Liv and Nicole were filming Wags, they did not know the Kardashians. They were not friends with the Kardashians. It was not until later. So it's yeah, it's your college friends versus your high school friends and you're trying to make one big group. Yeah, and like Chloe's role up until I saw the trailer to me was just like a producer and like in name only, but she is like on the show. And it's almost acting like very cavalary, where it's like she's the boss. And she's coming to like check out the employees or do it. It's giving house of Chloe. Yeah, I'm not going to lie. Like not to be a hater. I'm not watching this. No, and to me, this feels like a show that won't succeed because it feels fake. It feels like fake manufactured drama, which was the exact thing Stasi is trying to avoid. So say what you want, but she did that successfully. She is doing that successfully. And this just feels like, oh, I don't like you looked at me funny. Like we don't really get along and it's like why you guys all like the same things in the same kind of like that episode of keeping up with the Kardashians. We're like they had the push trip and that girl Sarah, who was like vaping, like started drama with one of the sisters with Larsa, yeah, so fucking real. Yeah, like that's what it sounds like, but just like a whole show. This show needs Larsa. Well, you know, she's on the outs. I know, but she is the girls. She's the OG, but these are also Chloe's friends. And Sarah's Courtney's friends, Larsa, I thought these girls were like him's friends. I thought they met. But now Chloe and Kim do everything together, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's interesting. Kim is involved in this. Kim was like in the trailer on FaceTime for a second. Oh, was she? Yeah, but this is also her group of friends. I just think it's going to be, there's not going to be like that much substance. And I'm going to say something like genuinely so mean, like so, so, so mean. But like these are six women who have never had a problem like with a platform, right? They're getting blasted all the time by that Kardashians. Like they have millions of followers and like, people just don't care. Like I think that if any of them was like a major star, like that would have happened already. Do you know what I mean? They're just like sort of, no, and like Instagram girls. They had wax, which I think like wasn't appreciated in its time, but it's fine. They had Nat and Liv. They had their own show. Not only in KDG, but on TV for so long, I think in KDG had their own show too. And it's just like nothing sticks because they're just kind of, this is going to be so mean. They're just like a permanent supporting character. So not just a face, but they just some people are main characters and some people are supporting characters. So I think like a whole show of supporting characters like six supporting characters is not equal one main character. Yeah. Unless there's a breakout star. We'll see. But like wouldn't they have broken out by now? That's what I mean. They're not for a lack of TV shows and opportunities. All of these girls have been on keeping up. these girls are extremely media savvy at this point. No one's actually going to risk something, risk looking bad, saying something unpopular. No. So I don't think this has the makings on Forge. Yeah, but like I respect the problem. They try everything. The problem is the show is made for me. I know. Well, that's perfect. That's how you know it's going to be bad. No, and that the show is made for me. Like in a lab, they said, who is the target demo for the show? And I'm saying like, I fear. Verde interest. Well, you know, it just depends when it comes out. Like, is there a dearth of things to watch? Like, you know, is it slow? Is it like maybe? No, there's loads. And for me to like watch something, there has to be some buzz. There has to be some entry, you know, clips going viral about conversations or topics that I find personally interesting. So I'll wait and see. Yeah, I honestly feel like the reaction to House of Stasi has been so good for its viewership because like, of course, it was press and people were going to watch it regardless, but it's but lazy. It's really busy. Like everyone's there's so many clips going viral and just like things that are making people want to watch it and have conversations about things. Just like, even I've seen a lot of clips. She's doing a lot of press. Yep. And a lot of the things that people ask her about, like putting her kids on the show and her marriage and just these are intro. They're parents. You know what it's not? It's not service level. These are inherently interesting topics. It's true. And they're kind of like polarizing too. Yeah, whether you agree with her or disagree with the way she's going about it, like, you know, she's going about it. You're sad. Yeah. So this will be a past for me unless like I break my arm or something and I'm like, I'm bedridden. And I also think I guess I wouldn't be bedridden if I broke my arm. But Stasi does not inherently care if you are, if you agree with her or do not agree with her. You're talking about it. It's true. Check. Yeah. And that's how I feel. Like, that's why I feel comfort in my first second. I was like, I don't know if I should watch this show because like, what if I like, don't tell her I don't review Stasi. They don't, like, that's not the point. They're in line to enough to know that it's like you're talking about it. Our job is done. Yep. Thank you very much. Absolutely. You don't have to agree with everything. Although I'm proud to say like, I haven't seen anything from Taylor's trucker yet. I haven't noticed that I've disagreed with. And if I do, like, I'm seriously like, you're not going to hear for me. Yeah. No, no, nothing yet. No, I think she's carrying herself with grace. She's getting like, you know, commentary about how like, you know, she's just like being kind of obvious in her pursuit of fame, which I actually think is refreshing. Like, because we're always coming on, the person just wants fame is like, well, yeah, they're on TV. At least she's just being open about it, you know? Yeah. So much so that she even considers missing the birth of Baby Bill, which I feel is a little bit dramatized for TV. I think maybe the timeline was like, touch and go there, but she was never going to miss it. Yeah. She was going to let Teddy fly home first for a few weeks. But you know, Teddy is a lot of family here. She was going to be fine. And I said, by the way, I was like, I'll go, like, whatever you need to. I'm not to make you know the show. But I was talking to them and they're like, you know, the time lines like a little, I'm like, Taylor, I'll come with you. Like, I did say I would be in the room. They were like, no, we're good. I'm seriously cracking up that you came to that must have not made the cut. Yeah. Well, that's our show. That's their show. And that means lunchtime. We have to call Olivia. Yeah, we have to call Olivia. She's sort of like in charge of lunch. So. Well, we're in charge, but we need her input. You know, it isn't a decision by committee. As the best lunches are to the test and money money show, we delivered the fastest. I just need to send every minute of your friend in YouTube so you're watching so YouTube, please subscribe me this video, thumbs up. I'll see you guys later. I'll see you tomorrow. Love you. Bye.