The Horrifying McDonald's Massacre

it was a hot summer day in California. James Huberti woke up and took his wife and two young daughters to the zoo, followed by lunch at McDonald's. That day, a shooter would go to the San UC Drow McDonald's and murder 21 innocent people, many of which were children. The scene was one of absolute confusion. Shots were ringing out. The nightmare was unfolding. These images are more of war than of a small fast food restaurant in San UC Drow. Yet it was a local man dressed in battle fatigues who declared, "I have killed a thousand. I'm going to kill a thousand more." After returning from the zoo and having lunch with his family, James Huberti would pack up hundreds of bullets, multiple guns, and then tell his wife, "I'm going hunting. Hunting for humans." The enter to facility heavily armed, immediately started shooting everybody. The customers that were inside the restaurant had absolutely no chance to escape. This is the San UC Drow McDonald's massacre and the mass killer James Huberti. My name is Beriana and I'm hot on the case. James Huberti was born on October 11, 1942 in Canton, Ohio. He was the second child born to his devoutly religious parents. At only three years old, James would contract polio. Ten years before the polio vaccine became available. If you're somehow not familiar with polio, it's an extremely serious life-threatening disease that can cause irreversible paralysis. Many that were infected with the disease were left stuck to a wheelchair or an iron lung for the rest of their entire lives. James would recover from the disease, but he had to wear these steel leg braces on both of his legs and he would have a limp with him all throughout the rest of his life. In 1950, James's father decided that he wanted a change of scenery and without much thought or consulting his wife, he decided to pack up his entire family and move them to a large farm in an extremely rural area of Ohio. This was an area practically in the middle of nowhere where their neighbors were made up primarily of the metanite and Amish community. And to say that James's mother hated this would be a massive understatement. After settling in to their new life, their life was uprooted once again when James's mother left her husband in abandoned her children to move to Arizona to become one of those preachers that just yell at people on the sidewalk. James was only seven years old when his mother left. And after that, if you wanted to find a young James Hubertie, more times than not, you could find him alone hiding in the chicken coop crying. Growing up, James Hubertie was a loner, but it was hard to figure out what came first. Was he ostracized by his peers or did he hate them so much that he stayed away from them? For the very traditional conservative rural community that his family lived in, the fact that James Hubertie came from a broken home, his parents weren't together a mother that walked out on her children in the 1950s. This was unheard of. And a lot of the children that James went to school if probably heard whispers from their parents and this could possibly explain why they were so cold towards James. James was a very angry child and he would become angry very quickly and over the tiniest of things. You might know someone in your life or maybe in your past that was like that, I 100% have. James was the kind of person that took everything as a personal attack against him. Even if it wasn't that person's intention to hurt or upset James, he would just always think that everyone was just out to get him. He was an angry child that grew up to become an angry man. And even as an adult, James still felt like the world was out to get him any pretty much hated every single person around him. As a teenager, James Hubertie became obsessed with guns. Instead of trying to socialize with his peers, he would spend his evenings alone at this shooting range. In 1960, James graduated high school. He refused to be in his class picture because he hated everyone at high school so much. James attended community college where he would meet his future wife Etna. I have to be honest, considering all that I know about James Hubertie from reading about his life, I have to kind of believe that he never liked or even loved his wife Etna that will certainly make more sense later on considering what he does to her. But just the fact that he hates people so much and this is a thing that is throughout James's entire life. From the moment he's a child to the end of his life, he hates people so much. So I kind of feel like, possibly, James Hubertie got married and started a family not because he wanted to but because he felt like that's what normal people do. Regardless, James Hubertie and Etna married in 1965. In 1972, they welcomed their first daughter, Zelia. And then two years later, they welcomed their second daughter, Cassandra. After graduating college, James's dream career path was to work as an embalmer at a funeral home. I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with being an embalmer, but considering everything we know about this guy, considering that this is his dream job, it does kind of come off like this is just another red flag. James got a job working at the local funeral home, but he was fired for how terribly he treated the grieving families. It's not just that James was cold towards these people, he was, but it wasn't just that. Sometimes when James felt that the loved ones of the dead were taking too long to mourn, he would just pace around where the families could see him looking very, very annoyed and he would mutter under his breath, get out, just get out already. And when his not so subtle hints worked, James would just turn the lights off in the showroom to get the morning grieving people to leave. After being fired, James got a job working as a welder, and this is easily the most successful period of James he wrote his life. James excelled at this career, probably because he could just put his mask down, do his work, and not be bothered by anyone. James was doing so well that he was receiving promotion after promotion, raise after raise. Adjusted for inflation, James was making in like the late 1960s, 1970s over six figures, which was a lot of money right now, and was certainly a lot of money back then. James was able to move his family into this gorgeous, pretty big three-story home in an extremely wealthy neighborhood of Ohio. But shortly after buying this home, a fire completely destroyed it. So James moved his family into a just as nice home on the exact same street. And then he built an apartment building with six units to rent out on his freshly cleared plot of land where his old house once stood. So right now, James should feel like he's on top of the world. He's doing extremely well and he has everything going for him. But when you make being a victim a part of your permanent identity, you never feel grateful, even when things are doing really well. James just continued to feel like the world and everyone around him was just out to get him, even with all the cards dealt in his favor. The ironic thing is anything wrong in James's life was from his own doing. But would he ever see it like that? No, of course not. James Huberty was a monster behind closed doors long before the world was aware of the evil he was capable of. He was extremely physically abusive towards his wife and very young daughters. He viciously beat all of them and he never held back. His daughters, like I said, were both extremely young during this time. And on more than one occasion, he would hold knives up to their throats or his loaded guns up to their heads and threatened to kill them. And at this time, his wife Etna actually felt that there was an extremely strong chance that one day her husband would kill all of them. James turned the basement of his family home into a homemade shooting range. Whenever his neighbors heard gunshots coming from the Huberty home, they would be terrified that he finally murdered his entire family. Do you know what those cases that we cover? There's a killer. And once people find out the terrible horrific crimes that this person committed, all their neighbors and their co-workers, their family are shocked because they never saw it coming. That was not the case with James Huberty. And speaking of his neighbors, James's erratic behavior was starting to get extremely concerning. James had these very dark fantasies of revenge. And since he was always offended by everything and every one around him, James kept a mental note of all the people that wronged him. And as you can imagine, that list was very long. And like I mentioned earlier, a large majority of the things that James Huberty saw as these personal attacks against him were done with zero ill intent. Some days, James would stand on his front porch with his guns, point them, aim them at his neighbors as they walked by, just laughing to himself. He never pulled the trigger, but could you imagine just how horrifying this would be to see. And then there is another truly chilling incident that happened with one of James' neighbors. And just a warning, I'm about to talk about animal death. After a neighbor came to James to tell him that his family dog, his German shepherd, damaged some of the paint on his car, James went inside his home, dragged his family pet outside and shot and killed the dog right in front of his neighbor to "pay his debt." Obviously, this disgusted and horrified his neighbor. But what I'm failing to understand is why are none of these people reporting him? Was it just that it was a different time that people didn't want to get in each other's business? I don't know. The only report I could actually find to the police was made out against his wife, Etna, when she was holding one of his guns one time. James' humanity was also a deeply paranoid person. This definitely lines up with the fact that he is convinced that everyone is just always out to get him all of the time. During the Cold War, like many others, James was scared of the lingering threat of nuclear war. So he stocked up on food, guns, and ammunition. He covered his property in no trespassing signs and became convinced that there was a deep rooted conspiracy to ruin his life, going all the way up through the entire government, all the way to the president of the United States. So there is a deep decline in James' mental health at this point, but it only gets worse. November 1982, just before the holidays, James was laid off from his job as a welder after the company went under. Reportedly after losing his job, James told a co-worker that he intended to end his own life and the lives of his entire family. But still, no one reports this. There are also claims that James' humanity began hearing voices. Voices that weren't there. These voices worsened his delusions that the government was plotting against him to destroy his life. Just months after losing his job, James was caught by his wife Etna trying to end his own life. She stopped him, but he just coldly told her, "You should have let me do it." Etna later said in an interview, if she knew then what she knows now, she would have let him kill himself. Struggling to make ends meet, James would sell his apartment building. He did end up finding another job, but since the government was actively trying to ruin his life, he was also laid off from that job only five weeks later when that company also went under. This was directly followed by James getting in a very serious car accident, and this accident actually aggravated the lingering damage from his childhood about polio and left his right arm twitching uncontrollably. If no other options on how to support his family less than one year after losing his job, James decided to sell his family home and move his entire family to Tijuana, Mexico. His mother did not like it when his father moved the entire family without so much as consulting her, but at least when his father did it, he only moved them to a different part of the exact same state that they lived in. James told his wife that the reason they were moving to Tijuana, Mexico is because he was hoping there would be more opportunities there for him to find work. But I theorize that the real reason might have been to get away from the United States government that was plotting to destroy his life. But after failing to find work in Mexico, James would move his entire family back to the United States only three months later. Back over the United States border, James and his family would move into a tiny apartment in San Yucidro, a lower income neighborhood of San Diego, California. James did secure a job in San Yucidro, not as a welder, his preferred position, but as a security guard. But then he was fired only two months later. And this was only two weeks before he went on to murder dozens of innocent people. On July 15th, 1984, James confronted in his wife that he felt like something was wrong with him, that he was experiencing some kind of mental health emergency. Two days later, James would try and ask for help. On July 17th, James called the mental health unit of the San Yucidro Health Center. James told the receptionist that he needed help and he wanted to book an appointment with the doctor as soon as possible. The receptionist told James that they were a little busy at the moment, but that a doctor would call James back to book that appointment later that day. So for the rest of the day, James would sit by the phone, waiting for a call that never came. The thing is, despite telling James that someone would call him back before the end of the day, because James sounded normal on the phone, the receptionist listed him as a low-risk callback. And the policy for low-risk calls was to call back within 48 hours. But by then, the massacre would have already happened. The next morning, James Huberty woke up and he took his family to the San Diego Zoo. Apparently, James seemed to be in the best mood he had been in in weeks. While his young daughters were running around the zoo looking at animals, James started a conversation up with his wife. He told her that he tried to reach out for help from the local mental health center the day before but never got a callback as promised. He ended the conversation saying to his wife, "Society had their chance." On their way home from the zoo, the family sought by the Claire Monter McDonald's location to have lunch. Back home after a long day out in the sun, Etna went into their bedroom to lie down and relax. And then her husband walked into the bedroom. He came over to the side of the bed where she was laying and he told her that he wanted to give her a kiss. Goodbye. Etna thought that this was a little odd because her husband was never known to be this affectionate, but she still kissed him anyway. As her husband was walking out the bedroom, she asked him, "Where are you going?" And James Huberty calmly and coldly said, "I'm going hunting, hunting for humans." And on his way out of the main entrance of his home, he told his daughters that he was leaving and he would not be coming back. We'd had a very good time that day. And we went to McDonald's, had chicken nuggets, french fries, and coax. We went to the zoo. We came home and he went upstairs and I was downstairs putting away the dishes. A zoo he had come downstairs and told me he was messing around with some ammunition, but I mean, that's nothing unusual. I got things cleared up in the kitchen, went upstairs, that was hot, tired. While I was resting, he came to the doorway and he said he was going to kiss me, "Goodbye." Okay. And he started to walk away and I just motioned for him to come back. He said, "What?" I said, "Well, I'll kiss you, goodbye." And he made reference to he was going hunting. He said, "I'm going to hunt humans." And I didn't pay attention to him. Well, I felt, you know, he used to do things to get me excited and figure you can make me cry or get me upset. And I just decided he wasn't going to. And he just pointed the thumbs up and took off. So I was going to get some ground beef because it was on a safe way and I had to pick up the mail on a lot of different errands to do. So I just got dressed and told him to come on and we went. And when I came back, the road, the highway was blocked off. James, he already walked out of his family home with a large shotgun draped over his shoulder. He also had a nine millimeter pistol and a nine millimeter oozy, as well as hundreds of rounds of ammunition for every single gun. James drove around for a little bit before pulling into the parking lot of the sand you see drill McDonald's. I think it's extremely telling the location that James he already picked out for his revenge fantasy. Not so much nowadays, but even when I was a child, McDonald's was a lot different. Instead of being a dark brown and black building with leather couches and brick fireplaces, McDonald's used to be a place full of color. There was a playroom in every single location, a ball pit with slides. My local McDonald's even had a table that was completely made out of Legos and they would have more Legos who you could stack up and build on top of the table that you were sitting out to eat your dinner. Families would host birthday parties at McDonald's. It was very much a place for families and for children. So the fact that this is the location that James he already picked to act out his revenge fantasy against society, I think, is extremely telling. It was 3.50. the 6 p.m., the awkward time between lunch rush and dinner rush for most restaurants. But still, this McDonald's was fairly busy. Not even counting all of the employees, though we're at least 45 customers in the McDonald's when James Hewarty walked in. James Hewarty walked in with his shotgun resting over his shoulder. He walked up to the counter where a 16-year-old John Arnold was manning the cash register. James pointed his shotgun at the teenager's face and then pulled the trigger. But nothing happened. The gun was stuck. The entire McDonald's fall silent, it's frozen. Is this some sort of sick joke? But before anyone could fully register what was actually happening, James was able to unjam his shotgun. He fired a shot into the ceiling and another shot into the face of the 22-year-old manager Neva Kane killing her. James M once again, fixated on the 16-year-old John Arnold, who at this point was trying to run away from him. He fired again, striking the teenager in the chest and in the arm, he then shouted for everyone to get down on the ground. What happened next was 77 minutes of absolute carnage. James began ranting to all of the frightened people that were inside the restaurant, calling them racial slurs and telling them that he fought in the Vietnam War, which was not true. And he said, "I've killed thousands of people and I'll kill thousands more." These images are more of war than of a small fast-food restaurant in Sunny Seedrow. But it was a local man dressed in battle fatigues who declared, "I've killed a thousand, I'm going to kill a thousand more." 41-year-old James Huberty reportedly walked into the restaurant carrying a semi-automatic rifle and two other weapons, enough ammunition to last two hours. Witnesses inside said he fired wildly into the unsuspecting crowd, gathered for a quick evening meal. He fired through windows, hitting people in the street. He fired at men, women, children, and babies. One officer said it looked like a mass execution. One of the customers inside the restaurant, 25-year-old Victor Rivera, tried to reason of James and begged him not to shoot anybody else. James responded by shooting Victor 14 times yelling at him to shut up while he was screaming in pain. As customers and employees desperately tried to hide beneath tables, booths, and behind the restaurant's service areas, James continued moving throughout the building, looking for anyone he could reach. He soon came upon a group of women and children who were huddled together. 19-year-old Maria Camero Silva was killed by a single gunshot to her chest. James had opened fire on a nine-year-old Claudia Perez who was killed after being shot multiple times. Her 15-year-old sister was also wounded. Her bio was a 11-year-old Aurora Pena. When James fired towards her, Aurora was initially shot in the leg. Her pregnant aunt, 18-year-old Jackie Reyes, was shielding her 11-year-old niece by using her own body to shield the gunshots being shot at her niece. Aurora would later recall how she remembered feeling her aunt's body jerking around as her aunt was repeatedly shot and killed. James then noticed that the pregnant 18-year-old he had just murdered was already a mother, not only was she shielding her 11-year-old niece with her own body. She was also shielding her baby with her body. Her infant son, 8-month-old Carlos, was sitting next to his mother's dead body and crying. James yelled at the baby to shut up. He then shot the baby and killed him. He then moved on shooting and killing a 62-year-old trucker named Lawrence Vercilis. By now, people throughout the entire restaurant were doing what they could to escape and also protect each other. Near the play area, one family had thrown themselves over two boys trying to use their own bodies as shields. 31-year-old Belythe Herrera covered her 11-year-old son Mateo while her husband Ronald shielded Keith Thomas and a nearby booth. Ronald was reportedly telling Keith not to move as he tried to protect him again by using his body as a shield. Keith and Ronaldo were both shot multiple times, but they both survived their injuries, but Belythe and her 11-year-old son Mateo, however, were killed. Shortly after 4 p.m., only within five minutes of the first shot emergency services were already getting calls about the massacre inside of the local McDonald's. But when 911 dispatched police, they sent them to the wrong McDonald's, roughly two miles away. This error delayed police response by several crucial minutes. Meanwhile, people who had no idea what was happening inside the McDonald's were arriving at the restaurant. A young woman named Lydia Flores arrived at the McDonald's with her two-year-old daughter. When she noticed shattered windows and then started hearing gunfire. She immediately threw her car into reverse, but actually crashed her car trying to get away. So she grabbed her two-year-old daughter out of the car and the mother-daughter hidden bushes until the shooting stopped. Just a few minutes later, another family unknowingly came upon this massacre as they were arriving to the restaurant. A stalfo and Marcella Thelix arrived at the four-year-old daughter, Carlita. Seeing the shattered glass windows, a stalfo initially thought that the restaurant was closed and was being renovated and actually missed stook James Hubertie as a repairman. But then James Hubertie opened fire on his family. Marcella was struck in the arms of chess and in the face. She suffered devastating injuries that left her blind in one eye and she lost function in one of her hands. Baby Carlita was also shot in the neck, chest, and stomach. Her father was shot in the chest and the head. As the family desperately tried to escape, the couple gave their four-month-old daughter to a stranger and begged the stranger to save their daughter. The stranger brought the baby to a hospital and remarkably, the entire family would survive. Next, three 11-year-old boys arrived in the parking lot of the McDonald's completely unaware of what was happening inside. These were just three little boys on a summer day out riding their bikes and rode their bikes to the McDonald's because they wanted to get ice cream. As the boys started to get off of their bikes, someone that was across the street started yelling at them, trying to warn them of the horror that they just walked into, but it was too late. Josh Coleman was critically injured. He was lying on the floor, bleeding out, and then he noticed that his friends Omar, Hernandez, and David, Flores Delgado were also both shot and were already dead. James unspotted, then elderly couple was approaching the restaurant. 74-year-old Miguel Victoria was entering the restaurant with the 69-year-old wife Ida Vasquez Victoria. As Miguel reached for the door to try and open it for his wife Ida, James was already there with his gun. Ida was killed instantly. Witnesses recalled seeing Miguel cradling his wife's dead body trying to wipe blood from her face. Or James shot Miguel in the head, killing him as he held his dead wife. About ten minutes after the first 911 call started coming in, police finally arrived at the scene of the correct McDonald's. Police quickly established a six block locked down around the restaurant and began positioning officers around the building. Within one hour, SWAT team had also arrived at the scene. At first, officers did not know how many shooters were inside the building or if any people were being held as hostages. Inside, the shooting just continued. Survivors later recalled James walking around the service counter and turning on a portable radio. He selected a music station and then according to the witnesses, continued shooting innocent people while dancing around the McDonald's. After a while, he started playing a radio and he was just shooting around, had anything to do with me and three girls and two other friends of mine were back there. You can't really tell where he was shooting at because I was in the back. I worked in the back and then everybody just went to the floor. I was back there for quite a long time. After 40 minutes, so he just went back there and that's when he started shooting at us. I just started trying to run and starting. I tried and then I got shot. I went down to the basement after I was shot and I was hiding in a closet until I was over. He eventually entered the kitchen of the McDonald's where he discovered several employees hiding. He screamed at them, "You're trying to hide from me, you bastards." One of the women started screaming, "Don't kill me, don't kill me," as James opened fire. 21-year-old Paulina Lopez, 19-year-old Elsa Ferrero and 18-year-old Margarita Padilla were killed. Inside the restaurant, James continued firing at anything that came. within a short distance of this McDonald's. When a fire truck drove by, he opened fire on it and actually wound one of the firefighters that were inside of the truck. Inside the building, 19-year-old Jose Perez was lying wounded on the floor. When James heard him moaning in pain, he walked over and shot him in the head and killed him. Jose died alongside his friend in neighbor, 22-year-old Gloria Gonzalez, and 19-year-old Michelle Karncross. They were killed hiding underneath the booth that they were sharing a meal at just minutes before the shooting started. In another horrifying, chilling moment, 11-year-old Aurora Peña still wounded and lying amongst the bodies of her 18-year-old pregnant aunt and her eight-month-old baby cousin noticed that the gunfire had stopped. She was closing her eyes this entire time, just so scared. But when she didn't hear any more gunshots, she opened her eyes and saw that the shooter James Huberty was staring directly at her. He started yelling and swearing at her. He then grabbed a bunch of French fries and threw them at her as he picked up his shotgun and shot her again. But thankfully, Aurora also survived this. By 505 PM, officers were authorized to kill the shooter if they got a clear shot. At 517 PM, that clear shot came. From the roof of a post office directly across the street from the McDonald's, a 27-year-old SWAT sniper named Charles Foster fired a single gunshot from 35 yards away. The bullet entered James Huberty's chest and exited through his spine, sending him sprawling backwards onto the floor directly in front of the service counter, killing him instantly before he even knew what hit him. His 77 minutes of absolute horror left 19 people injured and 21 innocent people killed. First thing I saw was a lady laying in front of the counter with the uh, six-month-year-old baby laying in her lap. And I assume it was a husband laying right next to her. And you could tell it was a family and it had been shot numerous times and uh, that was horrible. It was just people who were eating and obviously had been shot. Some look like they didn't know what happened. No time to react. They were hit by surprise. Some people were still clutching hamburger, some people still clutching trays. Some people had patched up their wounds with uh, a napkins. James Huberty was identified as the shooter the following day. His children and his widow received so much harassment and death threats that his wife Etna actually relocated the family. And when she put her kids into school, she enrolled them into the new school under fake names to save them from any more scrutiny. Following the massacre, the community was devastated, outraged and shocked that something like this could actually happen. There were so many people dead that the funeral homes in the area weren't suited for all the funerals that needed to be held, so they were holding wakes for the victims of this massacre inside of a community center. Immediately after the massacre, McDonald's suspended all advertisements out of respect for the lives lost and the rival competitor Burger King also temporarily suspended all advertising out of respect. But only two days after this massacre that left 21 innocent people dead, the franchise owner of this McDonald's started renovating the McDonald's which came with a lot of backlash and eventually the choice was made to not open the McDonald's and the building was demolished in September of 1984. McDonald's later constructed another restaurant two blocks away from the site of the massacre. In 1990, a memorial was put up for the victims of this horrific tragedy right where the McDonald's once stood. To help the victims and their families, the San Ysidro family survivor fund was set up. Joan Crock, who is the widow of McDonald's founder, was the one who started the fund with a $100,000 donation. McDonald's corporation then donated $1 million and with donations from the public, the fund eventually reached $1.4 million to help the families and the victims of this case. Adjust the poor inflation. This would be over $4 million in today's money. There was a lot of outrage which makes sense and the community and the grieving families who lost their loved ones in this horrific tragedy were really upset with law enforcement that felt they didn't act quick enough that they should have entered the McDonald's earlier that they just sat around and waited for an hour before something actually happened and in that time how many people died. There were even some lawsuits filed against the San Diego Police Department because they didn't enter and storm the McDonald's as soon as they got there that they waited an hour to do something. All suits were eventually dismissed and the San Diego Police Department would say that they did not know how many shooters were inside the McDonald's if anyone was being held hostage so they couldn't just storm into a situation like that. That there was a chance that people that survived this tragedy might have died if they stormed into the McDonald's but at the same time there's also a chance that people that died would have survived if they had done so. So I just completely understand and sympathize with the loved ones who are upset and frustrated and angry that for 77 minutes it just felt like nothing was done and on top of that they were sent to the wrong McDonald's in the first place. For an hour and 17 minutes a killer controlled McDonald's and kept 175 police pinned down outside. They didn't have a target. They were totally pinned down. Any movement towards the building may have caused him to indiscriminately shoot and kill other people within the building. It was a sort of a no-win situation at that time. I'm extremely interested to hear all of your thoughts and opinions on this case. I'm also really interested to know if you think that the health center and the receptionist that didn't call James Hubertty back should have had any repercussions against them. I mean could you even imagine being that receptionist? I bet that haunted her for the rest of her life. There was a darkness inside of James Hubertty long before he walked into that McDonald's and I think it's very clear for a long time that there's been a mental health crisis around the world but especially in this country and I think as soon as we acknowledge that's true then we can finally do something about it. So I do have resources listed down below and I actually did my best to find some local nonprofits from this case. So if you want to check those out they will be all down below. This is just an absolutely horrific tragedy. I don't even know how many times I can say that but it's just like what I'm feeling while researching this. The fact that and I've said this before but the fact that you can just be living your life not knowing that there's a stranger that you've never done anything to. James Hubertty was so mad at people thinking that these people wronged him but no one in that McDonald's ever even did anything to him. He didn't know those people. So the fact you can just be living your life wanting to take your eight-month-old baby or your nine-year-old daughter to a McDonald's to get a happy meal and there's some person that's having a bad day and then then your life is just over. That is a thought that absolutely horrifies me because there's nothing you can even do about it. It's not like you can just stay inside all of the time. So that just is absolutely absolutely terrifying. Extremely interested to hear all of your thoughts and opinions on this case even though I'm pretty certain that you guys are going to have a lot of the same thoughts and opinions as me but please let me know all your thoughts and opinions in the comments on Spotify and over on YouTube. If you haven't yet please make sure that you are subscribed over on YouTube and following the show wherever you get your podcasts. That's the number one way and a free way to help the show and help me keep progressing the show. So please make sure you do all of that and while you're on the comments please let me know a case you might want to see covered in a future hot in the case episode because I am gathering different episode suggestions, different case suggestions for my fall episodes. So please please let me know a case you want to see covered in a future hot in the case episode but that is all I have for this this week. I will see you guys all next Friday when we are hot in the case once again. [BLANK_AUDIO]