The Happy Pod: The best friends who turned out to be sisters
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A BBC podcast explores powerful human stories of connection, resilience, and transformation. It begins with the emotional reunion of Mina and Minaal, two childhood friends who discovered they were biological sisters after a DNA test, bringing a deep sense of belonging and closure. It then highlights the inspiring recycled orchestra in Paraguay, where children turn landfill waste into musical instruments, transforming lives through music and environmental awareness. The narrative continues with Brad and his grandmother Joy, who rekindled their relationship by visiting every U.S. national park, ultimately healing their bond and embarking on a journey across the seven continents. The podcast also features a charitable initiative in France that provides homeless individuals with overnight shelter in vacant office spaces, showing how compassion can be practical and impactful. In parallel, a scientific breakthrough is reported: probiotic treatments are helping corals recover from stress, offering new hope for marine ecosystems. Finally, the story of table tennis for people with Parkinson’s in Brighton demonstrates how physical and mental engagement can improve quality of life. Across these diverse stories, the central theme is that meaningful change—whether personal, social, or environmental—often begins with small, compassionate actions. The podcast concludes with a reminder that global living demands global financial literacy, urging listeners to choose wise for transparent, fee-free international money management. These stories collectively illustrate how human connection, creativity, and resilience can overcome adversity and create lasting, positive change.
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Or wherever you listen. This is the happy pod from the BBC World Service. I'm Holly Gibbs and in this edition, meet Mina and Minaal. It's like all those 30 years we've been apart, we've never been apart. It's like we're picking up after that and it feels really strange, but very good. It feels like home. The girls, she became best friends. Only to discover they are actually biological sisters, also on this podcast. This project, it's not just about teaching music. We're bringing to the world's attention this place, these kids. The orchestra who play instruments made from rubbish. Plus, the grandmother and grandson duo healing their relationship through travel. And. When you think about it, it's pretty logical. I mean, when we're out of the office, it's just empty space and a lot of space and there can be comfy. The offices in France, which welcome people experiencing homelessness to stay. We start with a remarkable DNA discovery, which revealed that two best friends were actually biological sisters. Mina and Minaal were both born in India. They were then adopted by different families and raised near each other in the Netherlands. It was only when they met by chance that they realised their similarities, as Amelia Clarke reports. 'Vertus, my sister.' Meela Geltink and Minaal Tyson were both born in the early 1980s. They were adopted from two different orphanages in Mumbai within months of their birth. They first met in their early teens at an event hosted by an adoption agency their parents had used and were struck by their uncanny similarities in their appearance and mannerisms. They promised to stay in touch and spent years writing letters to each other, often addressing each other as cis, despite not knowing the truth about their relation. Minaal and Minaal lost contact after Minaal moved to France and Mina had a baby, until earlier this year when Minaal decided to take a DNA test. I was home alone and then I got the pop-up on my phone. And it said, 'Your results from DNA, my health is already.' So I opened it and then there was written, 'Mina sister.' And I didn't realise it was Minaal that I know. Minaal messaged Mina on social media asking if she remembered her. Mina had tried to do a DNA test in 2017 but was told she had no matches. But the test Minaal did confirmed the girls were 100% sisters, which means they share the same biological mother and father. Last month the girls met for the first time since finding out they were related. Minaal says, 'It's what she's dreamed of.' I've always been surrounded by many people who love me and who took care of me. But something inside of me I've always felt very lonely. And yeah, I always hoped to find some biological family somewhere. And I always said, 'Yes, I would love to see if there's my biological mother, but even more brothers or sisters.' So, and now this happens. Inside it was like, 'Now I don't feel alone anymore.' For Mina, it's as if no time has passed. It feels like home. It's like we don't live together, we have very different lives. But when I see you, it's like, 'I'm home.' I feel finally complete and that's the puzzle phase in my heart. Yeah, I know that it's a lot, but it feels really good. Since finding out, Mina and Mina have spoken almost every day. They've met each other's husbands and children and the families they were adopted into. One day, they hoped to go back to the orphanage where the story began. But for now, the sisters say the fact they're siblings is something that is still sinking in. That was Amelia Clark reporting. To Paraguay next and an orchestra which plays rubbish. Quite literally, all of their instruments are made of scrap found at landfill. Brankaylesa de Saar has been finding out more. That's Wee Wee Lopez, playing his violin. It sounds just like any other violin, but it looks distinctly different. Rather than the usual Mahogany wood, Wee's instrument is a half-as-ard combination of colours and textures. And that's because it's made from rubbish. What is instrument or India? Wee Wee is talking to me from his studio in Paraguay. Here, he turns scraps of metal, wood, paper and plastic into music. He works with Fabio Chavez, the founder and conductor of the recycled orchestra of Cateura. Cateura lies on the outskirts of Paraguay's capital, Asuncion. It's a vast, sprawling landfill. Every day, about 3 million pounds of solid waste get dumped here. Thousands of families live in and around Cateura. They survive by sorting the rubbish for things they can sell. Kids regularly get pulled out of school to help. There's is a childhood marked by the sound of garbage trucks and plastic bags. Or was? Until Fabio Chavez came along. Fabio started working in Cateura in 2006 as an environmental technician, helping locals to classify what they found in the waste. When he first arrived, he was shocked by what he saw. I met families whose most basic necessities weren't being met. The children in this place didn't have the options for study or ways to use their free time positively. Fabio wanted to help, and knew there was only one way he could. What I knew at that time and had experience in was music, to offer the possibility of music lessons as I was already a music teacher back home. He began to offer lessons to the children of Cateura using donated instruments. But the classes proved so popular they soon ran out. Instead of turning people away, Fabio had an idea to make instruments out of the rubbish from the dump. It was a long process and it continues to be, as we're still refining it. Despite the difficulties, they eventually did manage. And thus was born the recycled orchestra of Cateura. The orchestra has now been playing for over 20 years and gained international acclaim. They have traveled and performed in countries across the world. More recently, a musical was made about their story. It premiered this summer in Atlanta. The production was a success, and next year, they'll be performing at Carnegie Hall. But when we first joined the orchestra, he could never have imagined the success it would come to have. At the time, they didn't have their own rehearsal space or shows lined up. It really was a passion project, something from the heart. We we had received free music lessons from Fabio when he was at school. For him, who had always loved music, blacked the means to pursue it, the lessons were transformational. So when he found out about the project, he immediately knew he wanted to help. I really admired it because it reminded me of me. And I felt a lot of empathy and connection to these kids who gave everything they had to make their dreams come true. Now, as well as teaching music lessons and playing, we we makes and repairs all the instruments used by the orchestra. But for both Fabio and we we, the project is about more than enough.
more than just music, or recycling. This project is not just about teaching music. When a child stands out for a skill, in this case, music, they cease to be anonymous. They cease to be someone that doesn't matter, and they become someone important. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE That was Branca Elissa Desar reporting. A man and his grandmother have been on a mission to visit every national park in the United States before going on safari trips around the world. For them, it wasn't about the sights, but healing their relationship. Brad and Joy Ryan had not spoken in ten years, but now they have rekindled, and Brad has even written a book about their adventures. Brad and Grandma Joy have been speaking to my colleague, Kasa Alum. When it started on I was 85. He called up, "Wonder if I wanted to go camping." Then I said, "Yes, so away we went." And we got there in the rain. It was quite a trip, I can tell you that. I held down Brad on it over and while he put the tent together. And then the air mattress, I kept falling off of it so I said the heck was it? I just left on the ground. Brad, you don't have to treat a woman, don't you? You know, Grandma Joy is cut from a different cloth. I will admit, like, when we were driving down and I was looking at her hands, I thought, "Wow, I forgot that she's an old woman," because her mind and her spirit are so young. We had so much fun that weekend, and she blew my expectations out of the water, and that's why we went down there because she had never seen a mountain. And at age 85, she not only saw her first mountain, she climbed her first mountain as well. That's really why I wanted to keep the magic alive. I didn't intend in the beginning to go to all 63 US national parks, we had no intention of setting a world record. You know, she became the oldest person in the world to begin and complete a circuit to all 63 US national parks. But it really just began as a way to repair our relationship. We hadn't spoken in 10 years at the beginning of this journey and now we're best friends. And Joy, for yourself, spending this time with Brad, how has that been for you as well as visiting all these places? We had a lot of things discussed about. We talked about the things we saw outside, and I think we got along pretty good. When you haven't spoken to each other in 10 years, you know, there's a lot of ground that you have to make up. What was that, by the way? It was a fractious divorce. Her eldest son was my father, when I was hiking the Appalachian Trail, when I was in my late 20s, and it was nearly a decade into our estrangement. I was sleeping next to the stream and thinking about those early childhood memories when she would take me into the local state park. And I just felt like I had to try. When I finished the Appalachian Trail after six months in the wilderness, I felt like I had to try to reconnect. And I thought she might slam the door in my face to be honest because her feelings were really hurt. It's like any other type of reparation, right? You don't rebuild a relationship overnight after 10 years of not speaking to somebody. You have to start somewhere. And for us, going back to nature was the most natural place to begin that healing process. And that nature took you all around the world. Joy, tell me about some of the places that you've traveled to then all around the world. What's been your favorite place, both of you? Well, we started in Kenya, and that was our first international trip. So after she completed the 63 US National Parks, her Instagram followers asked me what the next chapter was going to be. And 63 was a big number. And so we thought, what's an epic journey that would be a smaller number? And so we came up with the seven continents. And when I was 20 years old, I'd never been overseas and she took me to the airport and I went to Kenya. And two months after we reached the National Park of American Samoa, which was our 63rd and final US National Park, she and I ended up going to Kenya. And I remember thinking when we were in the Lamar Valley at Yellowstone National Park, when we were stuck in this bison traffic jam for four hours that she would never get to see the Great Migration of Willough Beeson, Zebra in Africa, but at least she had that memory. And my assumption was wrong. And she ended up getting to see the Great Migration along the Mara River. And so for me, that was just a living, breathing example that we can manifest these seemingly impossible dreams. If two hearts are willing to go along for the ride, what about you? What was your favorite country that you visited? The favorite place that you visited overseas? - Oh, I think when we went over and helped the rhinos, we went over there and there were several people with us. And it was an amazing experience. It was quite a big outbreak in it. There are planes and helicopters and truckloads of young men that helped up. - There'll be lots of people listening to you with a smile on their face. What would you say to anyone who hasn't traveled that much in their life? - If you get a chance to go, go. Somebody asked you to go to a someplace, don't say no. Say yes, because the next day you'll say, day gone and I would try to say yes and not no. You know, the older we get, the faster time flies. So I'm getting close to the end. So I'm not saying no to nothing. I do everything I can. That was Brad Ryan and Grandma Joy. - Coming up on the happy part. - I firmly believe that. This is a sport because of the quick decision making you have to make with your brain. Massively has benefits in terms of slowing down the illness. - The table tennis club helping people with Parkinson's disease. (dramatic music) - Support comes from wise, the smart way to manage the currencies you need around the world. Your life is global. Don't be fooled. 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We head to a kitchen area which staff members use in the day to eat their lunch. It's the space that Frederick uses to make dinner in the evening. So I have everything I need, a coffee machine, plates, a sink, a fridge. You've got your own shelf on the fridge with a little post-it note with your name hats. That's very handy, so everyone knows not to touch your food. Occasionally, Frederick has a coffee with some of the staff. The ambition of the charity is to help those staying in offices into permanent work and secure housing. Bureau de Kerr believes having a stable place to sleep makes this easier. Every month, a meeting takes place with the resident and relevant support agencies to ensure everything is staying on track. I've just got on the number three tram to meet Pierre Yves-Louis. He's actually the founder of Bureau de Kerr. I'm inside the office of advertising agency Nubilito. It's a business Pierre Yves runs alongside Bureau de Kerr, so it's no surprise to find that he's also hosting a person who is homeless there. He's here one for one once ago. I am literally in its big office, but in the corner here, it does feel like, suddenly if I turn this way and look straight forward, it looks like someone's bedroom. A black curtain gives a degree of privacy, but there's also a sofa, which is long enough for someone to sleep on. I can even see the sheets on the bed there. To ensure a respectful experience for the guest, offices are inspected by Bureau de Kerr volunteers in advance. Guests must have access to a toilet and shower and cooking facilities. So far, the scheme has helped over a hundred people, but Pierre Yves acknowledges that it's addressing only a small fraction of the homeless problem in Nantes. However, he says the solution goes beyond helping vulnerable people off the streets. We commissioned a study that confirmed that companies who took part in our scheme had happier employees compared to the standard French office. In the end, I find companies do this because they think it's the moral thing to do. But what does staff in his own office think about the scheme? Wondering around, I met Claire and asked her what she thought about the office providing space for a person who is homeless. When you think about it, it's pretty logical, I mean, when we're out of the office, it's just empty space and a lot of space and that can be comfy. So if that can help someone in a difficult situation, I say go for it. That was Alex Collins reporting, and for more on this story, just search for people fixing the world, wherever you get your BBC podcasts. Probiotics have long been all the range in health advice, but now scientists have also discovered they could be good for corals. Erica Santoro is a microbiologist turned aologist. She's been testing a probiotic treatment on reefs in the Red Sea. She's been speaking to my colleague, Roland Pease. Every single organism on planet hosts back to here and all the microorganisms. And this is not different in the ocean as well. So the corals also host a big amount of bacteria and micro algae. So it is a big mix and soup of all the microorganisms that are deep together with these corals host. So we call this a holo-biode because they actually work together and they both together as well. The thing that happens when there is any stress like the temperature is raising in the ocean, there's a trigger which like cause a lot of stress in the micro-algae. They produce a lot of compounds that are stressful for everybody, including the coral host. And a couple of process can happen there that these algae can be expelled by the host, that they can escape, the cell can just like break apart. And like these mutualistic relationship, they just break up. But somewhere along the way you thought that there was some way that using probiotics, in other words, adding extra bacteria to unhealthy coral would help them. Yes. So the idea here is we look at the coral and try to understand the beneficial relationships that exist between the coral and the microorganisms. And we isolate and manipulate those beneficial ones. I'm wondering how you do this because it's a bit different from taking a teaspoon of yogurt. So what's the process? Currently, we are doing these in the ocean. So we are upscaling through on the lab setups and bringing to the field. We culture those beneficial cells. We increase them in number and put them in syringes and apply on top of the coral. So this is going to create kind of a cloud of beneficial bacteria on top of those colonies. And we apply these often. So we guarantee that those corals are going to actually take those bacteria that we are offering to them. What difference did you see between the treated and the not treated coral? So we observe, first of all, some proxies. They're related to coral health. One of them in observing like how good they are doing these photosynthesis and what is up these were decreasing along the time when we don't treat them. But when we apply the probiotics with time, they were actually recovering. They were actually having like a better photosynthesis in those colonies they were treated with probiotics. So we saw a good result. Corals in the world cover a greater area than just the United Kingdom. This would be if it became practical, a huge effort. What are the steps before you even get that far? We have been observing like these positive effects and beneficial affecting different corospitias for different reasons to protect against bleaching, mortality, even like against diseases. So we are really getting excited about the results. And we see that it really works. Now I think our question is not if it has an effect or not, but how to apply these in a big scale. Erica Santoro speaking to Roland Peas. We end here in the UK where people living with Parkinson's disease have been benefiting from weekly table tennis sessions. The BBC's Mark Norman has been to the Brighton Table Tennis Club to find out more. People living with Parkinson's disease have described the benefits of playing table tennis as a no-brainer saying it improves their movement, mood and confidence. Playing on the tables today are few volunteers, but also a range of people living with Parkinson's. In a moment we're here from Richard Witts, an emeritus professor of music and sound diagnosed with Parkinson's five years ago. But first, his David Priest, a former restaurant worker, diagnosed 15 years ago. I think I've paid to like this session this morning. Mostly after noon, I feel I'm a movement with improved, my mood will improve. The main problem with Parkinson's is balance. You'll use your sense of balance. And so this helps to address this problem. Also playing the tables today, Tracy Steele is a former maths teacher and was diagnosed five years ago. And finally, we will hear from Carol Gill. She's been living with Parkinson's for 11 years and is a former student administrator. I've got like, you know, lots of people you can talk to, which is really useful. You need people who've actually been there themselves, you know. You have to react so quickly and score and move and think about your tactics at the same time. So for people with Parkinson's, that's a really exceptional thing. The Brighton Table tennis club hosts weekly sessions for people with Parkinson's dementia and other neurological conditions. Go! The club's head of community outreach and the voice you may have heard shouting in the background, Nick Creel. I firmly believe that this is a sport because of the quick decision making. You have to make with your brain massively has benefits in terms of slowing down the illness. Parkinson's is a progressive disorder affecting the brain, nervous system and muscle control. There are around 150,000 people in the UK living with the condition. Last year, Table tennis England and Parkinson's UK announced a partnership to create more opportunities like this for people to play the sport. Philip Lindley is from Parkinson's UK. Table tennis is shown to have many benefits for things like balancing coordination. It can also be really good for memory. And it's also been really beneficial for social interaction as well. And Table tennis England have recognised how powerful their sport can be in supporting people and said it wants everyone to feel there's a place for them at the Table tennis table. That report was from Mark Norman. And that's all from the happy pod for now. We'd love to hear from you. As ever, the address is global podcast at bbc.co.uk. The editor of this edition is Karen Martin. I'm Holly Gibbs. Until next time, goodbye.
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Two best friends in the Netherlands, Mina and Minaal, discovered they were biological sisters after a DNA test, having been adopted from orphanages in Mumbai and raised separately.
The recycled orchestra in Paraguay, made from scrap found in landfills, has gained international fame and is now performing globally, symbolizing hope and transformation through music and environmental action.
Brad and his grandmother Joy reconnected after a decade of estrangement, traveling to visit all 63 U.S. national parks as a form of healing, later expanding to the seven continents, transforming their relationship and inspiring others to pursue meaningful travel and connection.
Summary:
A BBC podcast explores powerful human stories of connection, resilience, and transformation. It begins with the emotional reunion of Mina and Minaal, two childhood friends who discovered they were biological sisters after a DNA test, bringing a deep sense of belonging and closure. It then highlights the inspiring recycled orchestra in Paraguay, where children turn landfill waste into musical instruments, transforming lives through music and environmental awareness.
S. national park, ultimately healing their bond and embarking on a journey across the seven continents. The podcast also features a charitable initiative in France that provides homeless individuals with overnight shelter in vacant office spaces, showing how compassion can be practical and impactful.
In parallel, a scientific breakthrough is reported: probiotic treatments are helping corals recover from stress, offering new hope for marine ecosystems. Finally, the story of table tennis for people with Parkinson’s in Brighton demonstrates how physical and mental engagement can improve quality of life. Across these diverse stories, the central theme is that meaningful change—whether personal, social, or environmental—often begins with small, compassionate actions.
The podcast concludes with a reminder that global living demands global financial literacy, urging listeners to choose wise for transparent, fee-free international money management. These stories collectively illustrate how human connection, creativity, and resilience can overcome adversity and create lasting, positive change.
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They met through an adoption agency event in their teens and noticed striking similarities. After years of writing letters, Minaal took a DNA test in 2023, which confirmed they were 100% sisters, sharing the same biological parents.
The Recycled Orchestra of Cateura in Paraguay uses discarded waste from landfills to create musical instruments. Materials like metal, wood, paper, and plastic are transformed into functional violins and other instruments, promoting both music and environmental awareness.
Brad and Joy, who hadn't spoken in 10 years, began reconnection by visiting all 63 U.S. national parks. The journey, initially a way to heal their strained relationship, led to deeper conversations and emotional bonding, eventually turning them into best friends.
Table tennis improves movement, balance, mood, and confidence for people living with Parkinson’s. The fast-paced game requires quick decision-making and brain engagement, which helps slow disease progression and supports social interaction.
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