‘The Hand That Rocks the Cradle’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Joanna Robinson

The Rewatchables is brought to you by the Ringer Podcast Network where you can find House of R with Joanna Robinson you can find The Watch sure still cranking it uh huh with CR it's from Hell Month Joanna Robinson I just I gave her a blind invite I said pick the movie sent her a list she came back hand that rocks the cradle CR's like I'm in blind just tell me the movie I'm here please hand that rocks the cradle is next it's The Rewatchables presented by FanDuel Predicts you can predict the summer soccer showcase hmm with FanDuel Predicts from the opening game to the final whistle stay locked in sign up now for your $25 bonus on FanDuel Predicts go to FanDuel.com slash predicts to sign up offered by FanDuel Prediction Markets LLC a registered futures commission merchant 18 plus restrictions apply see terms at FanDuel.com slash predicts slash bonus dash offer dash terms this episode is brought to you by Viore alright let's talk about a category we appreciate clothes that stay in the 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not a good parent what if I'm an inadequate partner to my spouse what if what if what if the stuff that keeps people up at night and from hell movies dramatize that what if I what if I get to bring something to FedEx what do you like the most about from hell movies I think it's just that everybody it's like a shared understanding in the audience these are all these were great theater movies but even now when you're watching it like I was watching this with my wife like when you're watching it you can feel like how relatable the tension is because even if nothing like this has ever happened to you you have feared it you have everybody has these shared fears often baked into like a middle class existence of like I think everything is okay right I think everything's gonna be fine and then it could just be one thing topples it all over and my favorite is like Roommate from Hell like Single White Female and Pacific Heights but having the nanny from hell is gets it like some really really deep dark stuff what about you yeah I think also this is just so huge on cable and VHS when we were younger this played all the time and I think that I completely like even when we were too young to know what it was like to be an inadequate parent or an inadequate partner you're just sort of like what if there's a stranger who's come to your home to rip your family apart and all of their schemes are very good and well executed and what can you do you know someone's wearing a button down a white button down and a smile and they're here to tear it all down it's right around here was when like they started doing the TV movies that would always have people from like 90210 and Melrose Place and Party of Five Lifetime's kicking off yeah yeah Lifetime was kicking off too but it was all all of this happened at the same time and it was always like you shouldn't have fallen for this person you're being stalked by your boyfriend or ex-boyfriend or ex-husband yeah you have a nanny that came in your house but she has the wrong intentions there's a neighbor next door you gotta stay and it just became this cottage industry and I gotta say I love it it's great even when it's bad it's good but I think what's interesting about this movie is it's really well done yeah it has a really good director it's acted well Rebecca De Mornay is amazing in this but I was thinking this says the three staples or three of the staples from a From Hell movie the seemingly smart character who's actually an idiot and misses 20 glaring red flags you have to have this you have to have the person where you're watching along and you're just like how can you not see this so in this one it's the mom obviously the red dress gets ruined the baby suddenly won't breastfeed the FedEx envelope disappears Solomon the beloved special needs gardener guy accused of pedophilia yeah he's now Jeffrey Epstein daughter now hates him Marlene the best friend might be having an affair with the husband and then she dies in the greenhouse and then all of her inhalers get emptied out and she's like huh there's a lot of red flags here and she finally figures it out but we're like an hour 30 into the movie do you feel like would it have worked better for you if this plan had taken longer to roll out if Peyton had been there for a long time like a TV series yeah yeah yeah she seemed like she was on a schedule I don't think she'd like being in the basement that much yeah she was like it's husband or bust she was like this guy she's like I want that beard kind of side-eyed me when I was picking up the ice cubes that time so that's one the second one that they usually put in there is there's an unexplained murder usually around the two-thirds mark somebody dies and in the Lifetime movies you know right away because it's always like somebody's friend or somebody's boss or co-worker and they just start getting a little nosy and you're like oh boy this person's ended up in a whatever so in this case it was Marlene and then the third one which is really unique to this movie and I think one of the reasons my wife loves it so much is it has a bunch of these moments where you're just watching going oh no like when like Dr. Mott's doing the examination and he puts the glove on and then he takes it out it's like oh no yes the breastfeeding scene the first time and she's like oh no Solomon catching her breastfeeding Solomon catching her her being mean to Solomon yeah that's another one the asthma attack and then the surprise party Claire there's people in here I think that's that's part of the script like when we were joking on the text thread about sort of you know fear of not fighting your inhaler fear of a greenhouse shattering like fear of you having a horrible fight with your husband when everyone you know is in the next room there are all these things where it's just sort of like yeah I am afraid of that I've never had asthma but I am always worried about where people's inhalers are and I have not I told you I've not been in a greenhouse and I've never had since I saw this movie oh my god I'm terrified you have to think about it if you ruin greenhouses why are houses made of glass why would you ever go in there there's also like this is a screenplay by Amanda Silver that was like her thesis project I think from film school right and I think now Joe and I both we're both about to start talking about Cape Fear at some point like coming out on Apple TV another really good example of a kind of from hell movie oh definitely and is incredibly rewarding because of how tight it is and how much is left off screen like you know what we don't have to sit through this movie partially works because we don't have to spend an episode getting into Marlene and Claire's friendship it's like it's gestured at it's understood yeah you know their buddies I was actually like incredibly grateful this wasn't a TV show because there you know a friend of mine came to me asking for a TV recommendation the other day and she started rattling off what she's been watching I was like why are you watching all of these mommy murder shows which are just such a thing right now but I don't need to watch eight episodes or ten episodes of every bend of the plot or every backstory for every character like I don't need Peyton's entire backstory to understand why she's here and I'm so grateful that this is a movie like this would be I think I mean they remade the movie we can talk about the remake if we want to but like the temptation to make this into a limited series must be you know unbearable yeah yeah Marlene I don't need her backstory she comes in three times like like a fucking hurricane it's great every time she's an absolute bitch I love her her lipstick is the wrong color for her shade of hair and she's perfect she's got the third car phone in Seattle you know what's also awesome about this movie but these this subgenre that you're celebrating this month is they're really still the most relevant period pieces that we have where so much of this movie could be brushed aside with like a Google search or whatever yeah but the things that people are nervous about and the things that people fear and the anxiety that people have is still prevalent it's just translated through different things you know what I mean like it's it's stuff like my social media account got hacked or like I think I got scammed or my my mother signed up for some weird thing and now she's a recurring donor to something that you don't understand she's a donor yeah exactly but like this stuff is like just the anxieties of modern life are so persistent that it doesn't really matter. that it's car phones and chain smoking or if it's your iPhone and other stuff. That being said, like even before cell phones on the internet, we did ask for references. Sure, we did maybe check that letter. We did occasionally ask for references, you know? I was one of the other nannies at the playground. Said you might be in somebody. Debbie, you know Debbie? I was with your daughter at the playground is how she introduces herself. Meanwhile, she doesn't have a nanny. So it's like, wait, how are you with my daughter at the playground? Craig, you grew up with the From Hell movie. Did I? I don't know. It's your generation. This is early 90s though. What's like the staple From Hell 2000s movie? You know, it started petering out because it drifted more into TV because I felt like they really tried to do this for 10 years culminating in domestic disturbance, which is I think one of the great unintentional comedy movies of the 2000s. But that was when it started to kind of die and then it really drifted into, into the lifetime. There was a lot of like black movies that would have like the all black cast that would basically do the same premises and that, that's still going. And I think a lot of it's just moved to true crime, like true crime docs and stuff. It's true crime and it's also like, I think some of the feeling of it can be found in Ozark. But yeah, to Joe's point, like they made Presumed Innocent into a limited series rather than remaking Presumed Innocent now. Yeah, because it's, you just get more episodes. So now we would have the backstory episode with, we would have the backstory episode with Dr. Mott. Yeah. Well, isn't that what all, let's go backwards four years with Dr. Mott. Like all her fault, the Sarah Snook show that people like loved on Peacock. Isn't that essentially like, to a certain degree. That show was horrible and I devoured it. And they also, but don't they also do like each character's backstories played out? But that's, that's the problem. And again, like the, the 2025 remake, I didn't watch it, but I was reading sort of what they changed. And it's just, this compulsion to give you a reason why people are from hell. And I, sometimes I just don't want that. Bitches can be crazy. Yeah. I like the fact that, that Peyton seems mean before everything else goes wrong anyway. You know? Yeah. Like she, like. I mean, this movie has so many subtle, great moments that establish that she's cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. But when, when Solomon meets her and gets the paint on her, she's like, oh, I'm sorry. And she fucking devil stares at her. For a split second. And it's like, oh no. That was my first rewind. I was just like, I gotta watch it again. You know, her, like, Rebecca DuMornay is so good in this movie. Let's talk about her. Cause I had written down. It's her and Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction in the finals for best from hell performance. Yeah. She's out of control in this movie. Sharon Stone's out. She's doing so many different things. Is Sharon, you consider that a from hell basic instinct? I don't know. It's, it's a, it's a middle ground. What about like. To me, like the, it's. What about Gone Girl? Rosamund Pike. Semifinals. Jennifer Jason Leigh, single life female. Yeah, maybe semifinals. Maybe that's your final four. What about the jailbait division of like Alicia Silverstone. Poison Ivy. Drew Barrymore. Yeah. Poison Ivy's dark. Yeah. Poison Ivy, Drew Barrymore is 16. Has a passion affair with Tom Skerritt who's like 40. Okay. And like, they have like a sex scene. I don't think that would be flying now. What year is this? This is early 90s. Like 91 or something like that. Yeah. Zoe was home for a month and she loves these movies and we watched The Crush because it was on Tubi. And 20 minutes in, she's like, Dad, how did they make this? I know. The Crush and The Babysitter. Is this girl like 16? I was like, I don't know. Different times. That's a, that's a cursed double feature. Fear is another one from that era where you're like, holy shit. Well, yeah. Fear is very much in like the Lifetime movie. Yeah. Every boyfriend is bad. That's another one that has really good actors. Like, William, William Peterson's in that. Wahlberg, Reese Witherspoon. Alyssa Milano. A roller coaster. De Mornay, though. So, we did Risky Business a while ago. Uh-huh. And she's Lana, the prostitute. And is with Tom Cruise and is lights out. And every guy my age is in love with her from that point on. I think that train, that sex scene on that train is one of the best sex scenes in all of cinema, honestly. Tangerine Dream? Tangerine Dream. I know CR's down with it. Yeah, I am down. More for the music, though. And it just never happened for in the 80s. Slugger's Wife, I remember, was a big one with Danny from Caddyshack. It was a baseball movie, Craig. He played a home run hitter in the Atlanta Braves. And she was the titular Slugger's Wife? It was horrible. Well, that title's horrible. It's like a really terrible, terrible. He just. He looked like he was swinging like a big salami. It just wasn't. Like, it just didn't seem like he had a bat. It was like he was. Runaway Train? Okay. Eric Roberts? John Lloyd? Probably the best one she did. She made this movie called And God Created Woman that was supposed to be. Is that like a Blake Edwards movie? It was Roger Vadim, whatever his name was. Yeah, yeah. And then she made this movie, Feds, and it just never happened. I remember Feds. She apparently was trying to get Tinkerbell and Hook, lost it to Julia Roberts, and was like, fuck it, I'm going darker. And did this. She was in a much better Tinkerbell. Well, and then she had a couple 90s movies, but it's just like, even when she was when she did Prestige for HBO, it was John and Cincinnati. Mm-hmm. Like, she just had bad luck with parts and movies, and I always thought there was more there, Joe. I thought she was a really good actress. I thought she was smoking hot, and I thought she could be evil or nice depending on the situation. Her trilogy for me is Risky Business, Hand the Rock's Cradle, and then The Three Musketeers, the 90s Three Musketeers. Oh, yeah. That was another good one. She's fantastic in that movie. Yeah. She's just always incredible, and yeah, just didn't pick the right projects, I think. Yeah. There's probably half a dozen 80s and early 90s movies that you could go through and be like, oh, I wonder if she could've, like, could she have just done Kelly McGillis in Top Gun, or could she have done any number of movies? That's what she's missing. She's missing the one big-ass, like, Yeah. $100 million where she's just the love interest. Yeah. Banging it out. I always thought, like, I wrote that in my notes, elevated Heather Locklear. I like that. Like, Heather Locklear goes on Melrose Place and is always awesome, right? She's like the bitch, but it's like a campy, not great show. She was a much better actress than that, but she could, there was a campiness to her in a good way that I just felt like they never figured out. Yeah, like, what's another one that she could've done that, like, Well, could she have been Basic Instinct? Could she have been Sharon Stone? I feel like she could've. Yeah, but even to not do another sex pot role, like, what if she did the Meryl Streep part in The River Wild? Right, of course, Hanson has loyalty to her. Yeah, sure. She's in our favorite backdraft. She's great in backdrafts. She's really good in it. But it was always weird to see her just as, like, somebody's girlfriend in a movie. It always felt like there was more of a danger. Like, what, are you gonna kill this guy? Yeah. But it might be the Risky Business thing. It might have been because that was the first time we knew her. Right. Can I ask you, is there a more interesting biographical detail than left Harry Dean Stanton for Tom Cruise? No. And then Harry Dean Stanton showing up on set to be like, where's Tom Cruise? Yeah, like they must have had, like, a love triangle fight. Yeah. It's a great one. Harry Dean Stanton, Rebecca De Mornay, and Tom Cruise. Incredible. Yeah, I don't, she's two movies short, but she made, she worked the whole time. It just never really happened. But she's doing a lot in this movie. Like, that scene when she goes to visit the husband about, hey, I want to plan a surprise party. And they're just, their blue eyes are just battling for two minutes. And then she sachets away with the stroller. Mm-hmm. And it's just like, this is just good stuff, man. She's owning the room. She is this movie. Like, I think this movie is well-written and obviously, you know, an incredible director, well-shot. But De Mornay's, like, her ability to change her facial expression on a dime and look absolutely terrifying and then honey-sweet the next second, that's this movie. Yeah, my wife said, my wife thinks she's great in this movie. She's like, she's really good at being an actress, playing a bad person who has to pretend to be an actress. Yes. Pretend to be a good person. The second-layer actress where she's like, oh, no. Yeah. The baby almost ate the earring but you know she's full of shit when she's not. Claire, we were so worried about you. We're so glad you're home. Her eyeballing the red dress when she's trying on the black dress. You told me you could borrow this. There's like a million. Yeah. So why does this movie resonate with women the way it does? Why do women love this movie? I was watching it and asking myself that question and I think part of it has to do with, like, how inconsequential the husband is. Yeah. Like, he's barely in this movie and it really is just about, like, these two women and Julianne Moore and that's, like, those are the, like, primary drivers of the story and so then it just becomes, like, very much about women's fears of other women and all, and I, like, this idea of, like, the from hell or bitches be crazy genre or whatever the case may be, there are plenty of reasons for women to not like it and this is a movie that really gets to the core of something that's true about women somehow. Maybe because it has a female screenwriter. I don't know. Well, it also starts with, like, the moment when she sees her on the bus. She's like, are you the Martells? And they're walking up and I'm watching with my wife and my wife's like, I would have been out. Too hot. You're not living in my house. You're just not. Sorry, honey. I mean, that's what Julianne Moore says. She says it right away. Why'd you bring this person into your house? We often talked about the, you know, the latchkey kid phenomenon and when we watch movies from the 80s being like, nobody was watching us. We were just, you know, from 10 a.m. to 7 p.m. It was up to us to stay alive. This is like the adult version of that though Like, yeah, you know what? I just saw you almost get hit by a school bus. Why don't you come on over? This is fine. You can stay for dinner. I'm sure your letter of recommendation is totally watertight. It's such bullshit. Hey, you're going to walk around your nightgown at night? Yeah. Dropping ice cubes in the kitchen? That sounds awesome. Annabelle Shura. Yeah. I think she's great in this movie. The character's dumb as shit, but I think she's great in it. It's so funny that it all comes full circle in The Sopranos. When she plays, basically, the from hell part as Tony's mistress. You're talking to two people who have famously not watched The Sopranos? Not in order. What? Not in order? Like, I've seen, like, runs of episodes. Did I just. No, I've said this before, yeah. I'll tell you guys what happens. Tell us. It's a little later in the run. The grimoire from hell, right? She's a car salesman. Uh-huh. Like a high-end car salesman that Tony becomes infatuated with. And it becomes a pretty deranged affair. And she's basically flips parts. Yeah. Which makes me wonder, like, could you have flipped parts with these two in this movie? Would have been interesting. I don't think it's as good. Yeah, she auditioned. Yeah. She auditioned for the other part. Yeah. But I think she could have done it. I just don't think. I think De Mornay is so good as. Oh, no. But, like, her coming off of Jungle Fever and being like, I'm going to do another. Yeah. Yeah, so she does. She's in Internal Affairs, which we've done. Reversal of Fortune. Jungle Fever. Hand in the Rock's Cradle. And then she's in a movie called The Night We Never Met that I might be the only one who's ever seen that movie. I've seen that movie. It's in Matthew Broderick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh. They're all time-sharing an apartment. It's great. That's right. I've seen that. It's a good movie. It's a great movie. It's gone. I don't know if it exists. It's not a real movie, but it's a great movie. And she kind of falls. She falls for Matthew Broderick. They fall for each other without having met each other. Never met. Just sort of, like, by their presence in the apartment. Yeah. Yeah. It's really an interesting movie. It's just, I haven't seen it since. And then she was in Copland. Yeah, she's great in Copland. And then had The Sopranos run. And it was always a question of. And Romeo's Bleeding. Yeah. Well, it's sad, but it was always a question of, man, she was great. Why wasn't she more stuff? And it turned out she was one of the biggest Harvey Weinstein victims of all of them. Like, he actually, like, sabotaged her career. But I always thought she was really good. I always liked her and everything. She's. It's really interesting to think about them doing the opposite role because. In a traditional, maybe, way, you would be like, De Mornay is better known than Annabelle Shior, so she plays the hero in this out. But you would always be like, how could you not tell that this one is trying to take down Rebecca De Mornay? Like, it throws you off to be, like, weirdly, like. I know. I have more of an investment in Rebecca De Mornay as a performer than I do in Annabelle Shior. So I'm, like, kind of almost expecting this to work out for her. Also, I do think that there is some blonde brunette, like, Ginger Mary, and kind of thing going on here. Yeah. Like, where you're inverting that somewhat. I can see it. Yeah. But, and also this, like, the very, like, the preppy, prep from hell sort of vibe that she's giving here. Rebecca De Mornay, the, like, button-down pencil skirt, flat shoes, blonde hair, bangs, like, all of that. Annabelle Shior, it would be a different energy altogether. She can't quite do that. Yeah. Yeah, one of my wife's biggest issues with the movie is that the nanny is, like, too, she said she's, like, too lived. Like, her clothes are nice. She's put together. Oh, yeah, yeah. And it's like, what's the backstory with this lady? Right, again, if she- Your husband died and your son died days apart and you have some story about how they never caught the guy, but she's like, I just would've had 20 more questions. Well, yeah. Like, what happened? You would've checked a single reference. Yeah. Yeah. You didn't have an appointment. Yeah. You're walking off the street because you heard about this job at the park. You're, like, mid-30s? You have a letter of reference. Right. But, like, yeah, there's nothing else. Like, what about, does she give her her social security number to pay her or is it cash under the table? Yeah, how are they paying her? Yeah. Seattle in the 90s. Picking nets is gonna be incredible. We're not ripping through all the nitpicks because I have 20 more. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then we have our guy Ernie Hudson. Big, big 2026 for Ernie on the rewatchables. He's this character and he's in Ghostbusters and he's in Oz all in a 12-year span. I think Ernie Hudson is awesome in this movie. Now, if this came out now, the what's age the worst with Ernie Hudson is they would just not have a non-special needs actor playing a special needs person. With that said, I think he's doing a lot in this movie and it's, like, Solomon is really important as, like, the proxy of the audience to, come on, you're the, he's the only one who knows. His, quote-unquote, innocent eyes see the true evil in the house. Yeah. The shot of his bike by the trash can when, like, in the final sequence, and you're, like, oh, Solomon's on the property somewhere. He'll save the day. This is, this is, I love this movie. This character is impossible. It's, like, ridiculous. Also, like, you don't like the savior, the savior gardener who's already been sent packing but is somehow monitoring the house anyway? Sent packing for having a child's underwear in his toolbox, but they're, like, but he's working again. He can still have, like, outdoor privileges. Yeah. They tell the little kid, hey, so Solomon's got another job. It's, like, he did? They didn't put her, the child in therapy? Like, what are we doing? Like, what's happening? A lot of unanswered questions. Directed by Curtis Hanson, who's in a run of Bad Influence, Hand that Rocks the Cradle, Riverwild, L.A. Confidential, and, uh, and Wonder Boys. I love Wonder Boys. He, so he says that L.A. Confidential wouldn't have happened without this movie. The success of this movie. Yeah, this movie's such a huge success, and Riverwild is such a huge success, and then he got a blank check to make L.A. Confidential one of our greatest movies. Would you have, would you have bought that? The same director from L.A. Confidential did this movie? Yeah, I feel like directors used to just really bounce around more than they do now in terms of genre. Now it's like, oh, Denis Villeneuve, like, I know what that's gonna look like. Yeah, he's like, 80s and 90s, it feels like they were just picking stories they liked, and it could be anything. The best safe pair of hands in Hollywood for a while, where it was just like, he can make pretty much any genre movie you want. There's not really an intrusive sense of style, but you're never like, this is a dumb shot, or this is a weirdly paced moment. It's all, it's all very well done. It's very competent. Yeah. It's funny, this was on the cutting room floor of From Hell Month. I'm a big fan. It's not too late. What? Not too late? You like that movie? To bring it back. Tubi classic. Yeah. Tubi's just cranking bad influences, just flashes it. Yeah, Spader. Yeah, I do like that movie. Rob Lowe is the bad boy. That's right. He becomes friends with Spader, and Spader's name is like Michael, and he starts calling him Mick. It's like, they go out for the night. Come on. Come on, Mick. We're going out. And just like, absolutely torments him. It's a good one. He loves Yuppies from Hell. He loves, and then, I can see the connective tissue between River Wild and this movie. For sure. Absolutely. Like, definitely. That's the river from hell. Yeah. So where do we stand on River Wild? Because that was another. It's dope. I love that movie. Yeah. Yeah, that's like a, I don't know, hiking guide from hell. What do we call that one? It's also not a bad remake. The Netflix version of it. Oh, I haven't seen the Netflix version. Adam Brody plays the kind of Kevin Bacon part. Oh, fun. I love, I love when Brody goes bad. This film's title is taken from the 1865 poem by William Ross Wallace. I know you have his collected works. They really lay that on kind of thick. Yeah. They lay it on that. They're like, what's that phrase? What's that crazy poem I'm thinking of? What is that? We always quote that poem. That and the Pirates of Penzance just cranking. Oh, and Pinafore. Yeah. This is a real Gilbert and Sullivan joint here. That's all they listen to in this house. $11.9 million budget made $140 million in 1992. So this is the same year as Single Wife Female. This is the year From Hell really blossoms because we have Basic Instinct, which is not, I don't consider that a From Hell movie, but that's 92. This movie and then Single Wife Female and then Hollywood's like, all right, let's keep banking this. And then concurrently. Women are crazy. Well, concurrently, Skinamax is like, let's. Whatever you guys don't make, we'll make. Shannon Tweed, yeah. Are there any rejected scripts for you guys? Let's rip those out. Roger Ebert, three stars. Yeah. The film worked. Glowing praise from Raj. Touches on a fear and that's why it appeals to us, says Raj. He praised Rebecca Desmornay. Desmornay or Desmornay? Desmornay. Why did I say Desmornay? Desmornay. Desmornay. A very good job, a very sound job of being the villainous in this film and I think it's an effective performance. Villainous, not a word we use enough. Let's bring it back. It's a good one. Still time. Do you think that Desmornay would be a good left wing option for Mbop? Mbop? Mbop? Mbop? I don't know why you were like, there's not 13 M's here. I just struggled. You just spun out on it. Sarah, it's hard to host. I know, man. Look, it's like everybody's cocky until it's time for the World Cup and it's like, shit, this guy's name. Mbop? Yeah. We're going to take a break and then we're going to do rewatchable scenes. The rewatchables is brought to you by FanDuel Predicts. You can predict the Summer Soccer Showcase wink, wink, action all the way to the final match with FanDuel Predicts. All you have to do is sign up to get your $25 bonus from the opening game to the final whistle. 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And it's just sort of like, is this how this is usually done? Is there something going on here? And it's often like right on, right on the border there when, in these cases. This is one of the many reasons why. I think, I know my wife loves this movie, but it's a lot of like everyday things that happen where it's like your worst nightmare of this moment. And you were right. It was wrong. Yeah. That nanny was trying to fuck your husband. Right. Yeah. You know? That's right. You're not paranoid of something he's really trying to get you. Yeah. Dr. Mott's perfectly creepy. I wanted to nominate him for Dion Waiters, but I don't want him to win. Well, cause he, there's, there is a, should we rename this for this person? Dion Waiters performance in this movie, but like he's, he's up there. When he starts to- When he starts massaging her, her stomach. Yeah. And he's just like, like almost like he's playing the piano and she's like- Yeah. It's really terrifying. The closest thing I've ever come to this is when I got a colonoscopy and right before I passed out, the guy was like, love the pod, by the way. Oh no! And then your, your sphincter was like- No, cause I think the, whatever they give you, the propo, propo ball or whatever. Yeah. I was just like, absolutely natural! That didn't really happen. Yeah. Love the pod. Love the pod, by the way. Save that for, what if you'd done it after? Would that have been- That would have been fine, but I would have felt a little tender afterwards. Yeah. This, I was like, I'm high. You can tell me whatever. I would just say, don't, keep it to yourself. Or say after. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Love the pod. Next rewatch, well, Peyton meets Claire and Solomon. Yeah. A scene just loaded with nitpicks. Just walking up. Looking for the house. Where'd you park? What nanny at the park? Who is it? You stepped in front of a school bus? Yeah. What? So, wait. You, you lost your job, but you're not gonna, but you weren't. I, I just, and Claire's just in. Say, yeah, come on in. Oh, I'll leave you alone with our, with my baby as I talk to Solomon. Yeah, me and my baby. Michael's like, she's great. Let's snatch her up. Yeah. Yeah. He's a little horny. No second interview. Let's go. Yeah, let's go. She's like, you know- You know, nannies talk. Good. No reference. Toss it, toss it aside. I lost my husband and baby within a few days. No follow-up questions for me. Sounds right. Tough break. Yeah. Um, so she hires a hot nanny with no references, um, within six months. That nanny's in the baby room. You guys have seen the, obviously, as Sidney Sweeney devotees, The Housemaid. Oh, yeah. I have not seen The Housemaid. I watched it this morning because I was like, is this like a, I, I didn't know. I didn't know exactly the plot of The Housemaid. And I was like, is it, is it? Very different than this. No, it is. But the opening is almost exactly the same. The Housemaid is terrible. Like, terrible. And it made like 300 million dollars. It made so much money. But proving it again, people love this genre. Yeah. It's just, it's the perfect date movie. It's the perfect- No, I mean, there are reasons inside of the plot of that movie that there's like, we're not bothering with references and here's your weird little Garrett room and all, like, it's all the same. I think she's the next convict. Yeah. And she looks like Sidney Sweeney. Next rewatchable. This won't win, but it has to be mentioned. The 3 a.m. breastfeeding sets the alarm. Oh, that's nice. First night. She's going to get up with the baby. Oh. Oh, no. Gas from the audience. Oh, no. The double date with Julia Moore. The cravings? Can't wait to talk to her later. Incredible. Never let an attractive woman in a power position in your home. That's a life lesson. Yeah. Remember that one, Craig. We get multiple smoking. Yeah. And also Michael being like, can I have a cigarette? Which is a real. Let me have one of those. Yeah. What about the no, no hands smoking while driving? Oh, it's iconic. Yeah. Just like the cigarette dangling. The hand that rocks the cradle is the hand that rules the world. Yeah. Bonus points. Said the title. My favorite. That's the name of the show. When I'm dead, that'll be the world. The Bill Simmons Award for saying. The title in the script. When that happens, does it make more sense to you that Amanda Silver went from writing this later to being behind all the Apes movies and also the Avatar sequels? Yeah. Is that true? Yeah. She does very well for herself. Yeah. She's made a ton of money on Apes movies and the Avatar sequels. Honestly, I'm not surprised because this movie is super smart. It's very well constructed. Yeah. So it makes sense that she figured out Apes. The lady at the park telling Peyton. She has her baby's eyes. And our girl, Becky. Becky DeMornay. Yeah. Yeah. Does the. Really? She's like, oh, man. Here we go. Is this also when Peyton checks Roth, the little kid? Right in there. I'm limping those two together. Peyton fucking with the little kid. Peyton at the park is a good scene. Yeah. Yeah. I like when she has a good angry walk across the park where it's like, oh, no. And then she pulls the kid. It's like definitely, you know. She like twists his arm behind his back. It's real child abuse going on. But it feels like benevolent child abuse. But also, did that kid have it coming? His arm's going to be fine. And he had it coming. And all of his friends are like, that was so cool. Maybe she scared him straight. Maybe he's going to be great now. Yeah. The FedEx envelope disappears. Don't wait till the last day, Michael. If you're an asthmatic, do you live in Seattle? There's a lot of hills. I just have questions about that. A lot of rain? Is rain bad for asthma? Yeah. It brings up shit. Does it? Yeah. Doesn't it? I don't think so. I think rain usually gets rid. It clears out the air. I think that's what people think. But it's the opposite. Doesn't rain kick up stuff? You should have done that in an RFK voice. Actually, the rain is the worst. Actually, the rain. I've got root asthma vaccines. I think the first rain kicks up stuff. Yeah, that's what I thought. I guess if it rains every day, nothing gets kicked up. Yeah, it's constantly clean in Seattle. Yeah. Bring the FedEx envelope to FedEx yourself. Don't give that one to the wife. Such a dickhead move. It's a once every three months thing. You really are going to entrust that to somebody else? Drive it yourself. I mean, I do think you can give your wife an important document to mail. It would be like I wouldn't have given my wife… But also, I would have a copy of it. Yeah. You know what I mean? Hey, Carrie, will you take this rewatchables rundown? I have no other copies. Here. Chris needs it. Yeah. I thought that was ridiculous. Wait, so that's in rewatchable? We're just into ridiculous? I'm just going through all the scenes. I like when she steals the envelope and dumb Claire doesn't realize it and has an asthma attack. I like when she goes nuts in the bathroom stall. Oh, just ripping it up. Yeah. And then she starts banging shit with the plunger. Oh, the plunger. Yeah. I'm like, that's evidence. Why would you leave all that evidence behind in a bathroom stall? I feel like people could have totally heard that. Yeah. Claire's outside the door. She's like, yeah, the bathroom's right there. And she's like, good, because I have to destroy it. She has two good freakout scenes. The second one near the end when she's trying to break open the door. And DeMorne is just like. Oh, yeah. Her shining audition. Yeah. She's really going nuts. The poker. She's great with a shovel. She learned all that in The Slugger's Wife. Yeah, yeah. This is in the running for most rewatchable Good Slugger's Wife reference. Peyton, be mean to Solomon. That's mine. Are you a retard? Are you a retard? He's like, no. And then the slap. Did you like looking at me? That scene is insane. My version of the story will be better. 1992. It's really great. I love Solomon. It's really hurtful when she's that mean to him. It's so fucked up. Yeah. It really ties in. Just that line as an opener. And you're just like, what movie am I watching? Yeah. She's also like, that's more evidence of like, you were fucked up before. Yeah. You were sexually abusive. Husband died. You know, like. Right. From this moment on, the movie is off the rails. Yeah. I feel like I could tell by the amount of pipe railing that they had at their house that she was mentally unwell before this all started. The smoking date to plan the party. I put this in just for CR. Julianne Moore and Matt McCoy. It's on. Yeah. It is on between Marlene and Michael. Yeah, I think there might have been a… She might have blown him in the car before he went home. I will say, I have never done that with another woman. Yeah. Like, chain smoking at a bar late at night to plan my wife's birthday. Especially when your wife knows you only smoke with her. Yes. And then he doesn't even, like, swish with some scope or something like that. He gives her a double kiss. Yeah, double kiss when he's got a cigarette mouth. I've come home and I'm super excited. Like, I'm all fired up from the bar. From the blowjob in the car? Yeah. Okay. Well, he's also has a beard. Like, you gotta, like, if you're hiding the smoking evidence after, you gotta go to the bathroom before you leave the bar. Yeah, you gotta do the soap. You gotta do the silkwood shower. Yeah, I need… You gotta put stuff… You have to. You can't live there. Thank you so much. I make that reference all the time and people look at me blankly. He comes in, he's chewing gum, like, what's going on? Like, but no, he just comes right in, double kiss. My wife likes to remind me of how, like, my whole thing would be, like, I'm gonna have this one cigarette before I go into, like, Easter dinner or anything important. It's just like, so that I don't have to go out afterwards or, like, in the middle of dinner. And she's like, then you would, like, triple inhale, like, an entire Camel Light and come in and just smell, like, Mickey Rourke. And everybody would be like, Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. This guy just rolled out of… And you're like, the party's here. Well, Claire's somehow not threatened at all by Marlene or the nanny. Because Marlene's a girl's girl, honestly. Claire really only cares about plant life. I don't know, but she's… She clearly has issues with that Marlene was the husband's first love, right? Only because De Mornay's, like, stirring it up. No, but even before that, I… Come on. That's a whiff weird. They're… They're… They're… They're… They're… They seem like they used to be tight, and now it's once every, like, two months they see each other. Definitely they have… Life gets in the way. Life does get in the way. I do find that, like, the way that Julianne Moore comes in hot and she's like, this chick? Are you kidding me? Get her out of here? Yeah. You know? And then in terms of, like, investigative journalism, Julianne Moore's on the case. So I kind of feel like she's… She's kind of a girl's girl. She's, like, basically, like, the slightly nicer version of Peyton. So she's, like, game recognizes game. I know a crazy one when I see her. I love her. I love her. To jump… To jump on those two points, Marlene's basically probably broke up with the husband, right? Oh, for sure. So it's, like, they're buddies, but deep down she knows, like, that could have been my husband. Yeah. Yeah, I just didn't want it. I'm in the power suit. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't want a scientist. Claire yell… Oh, smoking date to plan the party into Peyton hitting on Michael at the… Yeah. Claire yells at Michael with the surprise party happening in the next room. Unbelievable. Really tough. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Everybody's here. Everybody's here. Thing turns into curb for a second. Yeah. Greenhouse murder. I love the apple eating. Yeah. A green apple. Tomorrow's just, like… That's how I eat a green apple. Is it? Yeah. Yeah. I love green apples, and that's how I eat them because… Really? That's how my grandpa ate them, and that's how he taught me. You, like, whittle it like a piece of… Yeah, you carve it. Yeah. Wow. Do you empty inhalers with the same orgasmic look on your face? Absolutely. I stopped to look at myself in the mirror, and I'd go, yeah, I'm doing it about to murder someone. Emptying nine asthma inhalers. Yeah. Claire punches Peyton. Great. Pretty good right hook. Right into the dining room table. Dr. Mott's wife. And then the big fight scene. It's my family. A lot of good attic fight scenes over the years. Sure. I don't know what your favorite one is, CR. You know, it's hard. Anytime we go in the attic, shit's going down. That's a niche genre. Yeah. Attic fight scene pyramid. Let's do it. There's been some good ones. Sometimes somebody will just fall through the attic. They never really fight in the attic of Home Alone, do they? I'm trying to think. Is there a fight in the attic in Money Pit? Oh, yeah. What's your most rewatchable scene? I think I'm going with Marlene's death. It's really, like, the way that she designs the greenhouse to collapse so that when the door opens, and it's just awful. Like, getting showered with plate glass would be really, really bad way to go. You think that would kill you? It depends. Like, I was looking for a shard in, like, the jugular or something like that. Do you know what I mean? I had this later in picking this. I don't think you'd die from that. I think if she hunches down, like, if you give the ceiling your back, you can survive. But if, like, your neck's here and a shard hits you in the neck? I don't know. Like, you remember in Nice Guys where he punches the glass and, like, his wrist is just exploding with blood? Like, imagine that times 40. I just don't know if the ceiling, the roof is high enough to create that much velocity to impale you like that. Oh. I had it. That is my number one pick in it. I don't think you'd die. Well, it doesn't really matter because it's not like Peyton was going to let her live. Yeah. I think if she was just dazed, she would have taken a shard and just, like, stabbed it in her neck anyway. But I think what Joe said is the right point. It should have been one of the shards, like, just like this. One of the shards right in the neck or, like… She should have had a piece of glass sticking out of her neck. Yeah. Otherwise, you're just getting showered with blood. I said it's just like a genteel trickle of blood, like, out of her nose. Yeah. You can duck and cover. It could cut your, like, what's that? Leg artery that just, like… Femoral. Femoral. That could have been the other one. That's not my favorite scene. Mine is when she's mean to Solomon. Yeah. That scene's amazing. I just can't believe… There's just no way in 2026 they would have a scene like that. And I think it's so effective and so good. The Solomon character does not exist in 2026. Did you, like, look at me? Yeah. And he's so, like, terrified. And she just slaps him. It's so good. What's the most 1992 thing about this movie, Joanna? That a scientist could live in that house. So, this is 808 North Yakima Street in Seattle. It's an actual place. And I looked it up on Zillow. Right now, it's $1.8 million. And this guy's a scientist who does work with the EPA. Like, he's not living in that house. Yeah. And he's still got a FedEx's own applications for stuff. So, he's not on retainer anywhere. I'd probably say… In real life, they're living in an apartment and Claire is still working at the coffee house down… Right. Claire doesn't have a job. They're hiring live-in work, you know. And, like, I don't know what they're paying Solomon or if that's just, like, through the organization. I think that was, like, a charity thing. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm just, like… And they're hoping for more kids along the way. I'm just, like, this is unreasonable on a science tip. If he was in tech, maybe. Yeah. And it's… Claire's big project being, like, I'm going to do some gardening is not really, like, the number one, like, well, I'm getting pulled away from my two kids here, you know. So, we got to get some childcare. Yeah, we got to get a living home. Like, I think you could garden and keep an eye on the kids personally, but, you know. What do you have for your 92? Chain smoking at work. Yeah. A little late for chain smoking at work, I think. But it is Marlene puffing away while she's, like, what do you want to tip? She's so great. I have six, seven things. Julianne Moore not playing the lead female role. Yeah. That could only have happened before, like, 1995. Matt McCoy's hair-beard combo. Elite. Just specific to the early 90s. Yeah. Also, same in the 90s. The other one is the sleeping with the enemy guy that she falls for. Not that, not. Laura! Not that guy, but the other guy. The theater teacher. Yeah, theater teacher. Yeah. It was this weird two-year stretch where longer hair, little mullet, and then, like, a big bushy beard. And kind of, like, a vague, like, I'm in the sciences. Yeah. Very Dr. Queen of Medicine woman. Yeah. Yeah. Suitcases without wheels. She shows up carrying the suitcase. No references or no Googling of a nanny. I just think in 2026. No way. There's a Sony baby call at one point. I don't think they make those anymore, but I do think that was her own nanny. Sony's moved on to bigger and better things. There's a lack of crest white strips in this movie that's really apparent. I'm just going to go there. It's kind of mean. Julianne Moore, especially. Yeah, Julianne Moore. Everybody in the movie. She got her teeth bleached after this movie, for sure. This was an early 90s thing. Just in time for Jurassic Park 3 or whatever she was in, yeah. And then going to the library. The lost world. Put some respect. Going to the library to research news events. Yeah, microfiche. Microfiche is on my list, too. This was. I love microfiche. I remember senior in college and then grad school, going to the library a lot for shit like that. And two years later, you just didn't have to anymore. It was over. There's also something to be said for how nice the FedEx looks that they go to. Yeah. It's like a pretty nice looking storefront kind of counter that they've got there. But yeah, this has got some great. Microfiche and Enhance, Enhance, Enhance on the microfiche. Very good. That was. Like, if you look through those long enough, you just started to go cross-eyed. I love a microfiche moment in a movie. Like, in Pelican Brief, I think they're in a microfiche. Like, that's always a great move. It's a big movie, that is. Yeah. 92 Sonics, we want it. Not. That wasn't mentioned. Okay. When you see 1992 movies, does it look like a better or worse time to live? Better. Which I think is kind of like all the rage now is to say that, but I do think that there's like a. That's where the backroom started. That's right. The 89 earthquake. I think the feeling of the, like, just right before the tech boom in the 90s felt really nice. Simple times. Yeah. The Floyd Gondoli, butter on my ass and lollipops on my mouth award for something I just enjoy. I can't speak. What do you have? Julianne Moore being an unapologetic bitch in this movie. I just really loved it. She's in character the entire movie and not wavering one second. Julianne Moore could have stolen my husband with one arm tied behind her back, but doesn't. Yeah. What do you have? That's it. Like, Julianne Moore. I have one. It's really for CR. People hiding their smoking habits in a movie. It's just so relatable. I just fucking love it. When she pulls the cigarettes out at dinner and he's had two drinks and he's like, can I have one of those? She's like, oh yeah. But when she's like, he only smokes around you. I'm like, that's a fucking problem. That's tough. That's tough. That's why you're the fucking best. You bring it out of him. You know that they had such a long fight about that going home. So when she smokes, it's okay. And then watching after, we talked about that scene when he kisses her and it's clear she's been smoking. Just all the machinations you have to do if you had smoked but you don't want her to find out and you're just watching it going, dude, just do this, this, and this. This is where we have to give Peyton credit. She's a great improviser and she knows exactly, she lifted the lighter, of all things, the lighter to put in his coat pocket. Well, this leads us to a bonus smoking category. The Sean Penn, I brought my own pack award. Excellence in. On-screen smoking combined with the Edie Falco and Copland award for the character that got three times hotter by smoking. Julianne Moore, come on down. You did great. Really felt like she was probably banging out two packs a day in this stage of her life. She got called up to the majors on this one. There's like a lot of ash on the one that she's smoking in the car. Also, again, her incorrect. The no hands in the car is out of control. Do you know what that character 100% has? A full car ashtray. Oh, yeah. It fucking. Right next to her car phone. No, what's. What else she has is the glove compartment has three extra packs. Yes. Oh, yeah, yeah. Like, she bought like six at the gas station. Plus her super bright lipstick just like on all the filters, too. Lipstick on a cigarette filter. Her disappointment of only having matches is great. Like, she's. We've always talked about when you own a lighter, it's like the next. It's like moving in with your girlfriend, basically, for smoking. You've committed. What about the cigarette case? Matches is like they sleep over, but they just. Cigarette case is next level. Yes. Oh, cigarette cases. If you have a cigarette case and lighter, like, you're just gonna be dead But if you have a lighter you like and somebody's like, can I bum a light? You're like, I am watching you light it. Right. And I'm like putting my hand out to be like, we're not walking off with this one, you know? What was the most expensive lighter you ever had? I got a lighter for my birthday from like anthropology that was World War I like trench style. So it had like a wind blocker. It was like a Zippo, but it was like really good for lighting in the wind. Yeah. I had an Art Deco one that sort of like slid back and the light came up out of the top. Former smoker? Cloves only. Oh, interesting. And I did have a cigarette case. I got an engraved lighter in the 90s from somebody once. Hey, that's nice. Lost it. Did you ever have any like novelty like naked lady lighters? No. No, I realized pretty early. I did not. I realized pretty early. How many? Like gas station ones where like her bikini would fall off as the lighter. The fluid went down? Yeah. I was always a matches guy. How old were you when you had that? 22. Hell yeah. We always drew that face. I just was always matches. What's aged the best? Could you do snap match? Could you like. I was never like at that level. All right. Evil nannies? Yeah. Yes. Sure. Evil nannies. True crime has helped the evil nanny. Here's what I think. Genre. I think now, especially having watched The Housemaid and other of this genre, we're really, really afraid to let women just be evil. And I think we should just let women be evil. Yeah. It's fine. I think it's perfectly feminist to let women be evil. I am in the camp of all types of people should get to be evil in movies without us having like think pieces about it. Yeah. Like let's just get weird again. We've gone so far in the other direction that with like the house, spoilers for The Housemaid or Sirens, the Julianne Moore Netflix show that was horrible. Horrible. We've like swung into you think she's crazy, but actually it's the husband. This other world is crazier. The husband is, the problem, you know, and it's just like women can be evil. Women can do anything including being evil. What stage is the best? Asthma wheezing? It's a good central like Achilles heel for a character. Yeah. Asthma, yeah. When do you want to do your asthma monologue, Craig, later or now? I can use it for my flex. Okay. Okay. It's good because it's like weakness. You feel like, you know, it's like the kryptonite of the character. She can't take stress. Like, but I'm like, I'm the iron lady. Like these kids can't stress me out. Like again, in the improvisation front, I've killed, okay, I had to waste my greenhouse trap on Julianne Moore. Oh, well. Okay, I can set this up now as a domino effect to still kill her anyway because I've emptied all of her inhalers. Yeah. It's just like, what can't this woman do? How, what was the threshold for an asthma attack for her? Like if they were arguing about what movie to go to and she's like, the FedEx thing is like a real like, FedEx plus a steep hill. Does this, does this freak you out? Like what, like does life just make you have an asthma attack? Like sometimes FedEx, you won't bring the envelope by accident. I have a couple more. What do you have? Just early 90s Seattle as a location, both in terms of its cultural relevance that wound up aging the best, but it just looks great. It's got great architecture, great topography for like you were saying. It feels like that one hill that the FedEx hill. Yeah. I feel like that hill has been in like 40 movies. It's right. It's like, is that the hill in The Vanishing where Jeff Bridges kills? Oh, maybe. At the bottom of that hill, I believe, is where Pike's Place is. So it's just like right, like that downtown. It's like maybe the best hill of all the hills to show that you're in Seattle. But I feel like there's been a bunch of stuff there. I was thinking about putting this in Apex Mountain because Singles is also 92 and Sleepless in Seattle is 93. Yeah. So like Seattle's just like having its time. And then music is going. Yeah. Xavier McDaniel is going. Music's going. What's happening, CR? Anything? Why do you think they did Gilbert and Sullivan instead of Grunge in this movie? That's the thing. It's like, you know that Michael is like, I think I might go see Soundgarden play. He's wearing flannel. He's ready. At the music box. Yeah. I have, for what's aged the best, the horny husband friend that comes over and sees the nanny for the first time. I have him. He's a fucking staple of this movie. He's like, boy-o-yoing. Differently. Category for this guy. Yeah. He's just in heat. But they always have to do that in a movie where like somebody leave the room and the one guy will be the other guy. Whoa. So I had him in Butch's Girlfriend. Do you think that it's realistic that Marlene would have such a simp as a husband? Or do you think it's like this is the guy that she is like kind of running? Oh, I think that guy was super fun. I just think his scenes got cut out. I think that guy was a fun hang. We just didn't, we just didn't get enough minutes with him. Mr. Craven? Yeah. I think that guy. Invite him over. Because the thing is. To ogle your nanny. He's cool with Marlene and his boyfriend and his buddy. Which means he's cool. Like he just, he's amused by everything. So I think he was a good hang. He seems like happy hour starts at 3.45. 100%. Yeah. But yeah, absolutely she's running him. And absolutely she makes all the money in that relationship. That guy had six Sonics tickets. He's there on the ground floor of Ken Griffey Jr. Yeah, that guy that's making shit happen in Seattle. He knew the Griffey's. Yeah. I also have a really good little girl performance. Yeah. Madeline Zima's good in this movie. She's great. And they give her a character. Like she actually gets to have like influence on the plot. Yeah. Any other would say it's the best for you? No. Okay. Great shot Gorda Award. I don't know, CR. What do you got? I like Mrs. Mott stepping out from the bus. Like when they sees the bus stop and then she kind of just emerges from the side. It's such, so ominous. It's like who would stop a school bus like that? But then she has like a little bit of the sugar going where she's like, thanks for stopping for me. But it's like, this is the devil just walked out. I had a, when Claire finally passes out from the bus. Oh, and she's like flopping fish on the porch. Yeah. It looks like she's dead. I have, I mean, I like the glass shattering maybe because it made me fear greenhouses forever. But the glass shattering down from the greenhouse. But more importantly, when the dumb husband, Matt McCoy, goes downstairs and he's like, oh, it's just the alarm clock. Like no need to worry. And he comes up the stairs. And she just like in a red cardigan, like pops out from around the corner with the shovel and you get a little horror movie cue when she does it. And then she just smacks him. It's great. I literally jumped. He somehow breaks both his legs falling seven feet. And Claire's kind of like, I'll deal with you later. Yeah. And later she's like, should we go see daddy when everything's fine? She's like, let's go see daddy who's crippled in the basement. It's fine. Big Kahuna Burger Award best use of food and drink has to be the green apple. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Chess Rockwell Brocklanders Award for best character name. Marlene Craven. I had, I had Peyton Flanders. Peyton Flanders. Preppy from hell. Yeah. Peyton. Marlene Craven. Peyton Flanders. You want me to spell it for you? The number of times people in this movie go, Peyton. I just think it's a great, it's a great name to shout out. Peyton is a good name. Peyton. Kid Cudi Pursuit of Happiness. It's really just Pirates of the Penzance coming from the basement. I think would be the only thing. Penzance and Pinafore. Well, what do you have for Flexier? For the Billy Batts Jack Waltz Award for most biting and scalable insult. When your husband makes love to you, it's my face he sees. I got that same exact thing. You know what? This is basically what Sam Presti says to Sixers fans right now. Because McCain is in the three guard rotation. When your baby's hungry, it's my breast that feeds him. Really some cutting insults. Incredibly good. But, Which is girlfriend word, weak link of the film. So. I have Marty Craven. I don't know if this is a nitpick instead of a weak link. It court-sides for the Sonics that you're in, though. He's hanging out with Bezos and Gates. I think we have a huge vision for this. I have to co-sign this. Marty Craven. Get him out of here. It just could have been so much better. Yeah. Like, even if they had had Mel from 90210 switch roles with Marty. Yeah. And he's Marty Craven, right? Because he's in the beginning, the first scene with the… That's the twin brother. Yeah. That's not Eddie and the Cruisers. That's his twin brother. Oh, yeah. So, this is part of the Eddie and the Cruisers IP, then, you think? Eddie and the Cruisers guy, his twin brother is in this movie. Wait, really? Yeah. Yeah. I have stuff coming on later for it. Wow. Is he fucking with you? No. He has a twin brother. Not the same guy. Which guy is… We're talking about some guys from Jersey. Not the same guy. Which one's in 90210? No. Eddie and the Cruisers. Okay. All right. I have for Butch's girlfriend, I did go in the male actor category, but not Marty Craven, who I actually enjoyed. Matt McCoy. Oh. They hired a TV actor for a movie. Wait a second. Matt McCoy took over for Gutenberg in Police Academy. He is a cinematic actor. He is the cornerstone of IP. Important IP. I think he's in Citizens on Patrol. Yeah. They're like… The Moscow-based one? We're filming an elevated Lifetime movie, and he's just in a Lifetime movie. I just feel like… But that character just is nothing. It's a nothing character. Throw Alec Baldwin in there. Are we doing better? There's only one woman for me. Is it… But he should be… I don't know what he is. Is he a little hornier than he should be? A little less horny than he should be? Is he… Do you think he should be more tempted by… I think he should be a little more tempted. A see-through nightgown by a woman towel-patting him dry? A little more tempted. A little more… A little more aware of the circumstances, and I just think he's, like, dorky in this movie. So, who would you put in… You would put Baldwin in. I was thinking, like, Bill Pullman's probably the better version of this guy. Well, Bill Pullman would be less horny. Right. But I'm saying, if you're going to go this direction, I would go Bill Pullman. You want Lone Star. But I want, like, the husband that might get sucked into this. So, that's Baldwin. That's Baldwin. Yeah. I think it's, like, Malice Baldwin. Can I introduce you in a Billy Baldwin? You could. You could introduce me in any Baldwin. Yeah. All the Baldwins. Daniel? Daniel. Yeah. Steven? I'll take any Baldwin. Steven's way too young. I just thought Matt McCoy. I just… He didn't do it for me. Hilaria Baldwin? Hilaria… Maybe cut it off there. Vincent Chase Award for… Are we sure this character was actually good at his or her job? I have Claire. You've won jobs. Protect the house. Let this psycho in. She's growing a lot of plants. You let this psycho in who kills your best friend and does 20 things. Before you realize what's going on. Like, come on, lady. I gotta zag and say it's Michael as a husband and a father. First of all… Love it. His reaction when she's like, my OBGYN sexually abused me is, I think we better report this. We better call it in. That guy's running that fucking guy over with his car. And then he'll be like, let's see if there's, like… That's why we needed Alec Baldwin. He's been fucking pissed. He is fucking losing it the first second. And then second of all, he just basically is like, sounds like you guys got the… the house situation all taken care of. I'm going to the lab for the rest of my life. Yeah. Yeah. Can I zag again? Yeah. And say… Double zag. Did Solomon really build a great fence if it broke to shit as soon as Rebecca DuMornay fell on it? Oh, interesting. Well, like… Is that a sturdy fence? That's another Michael demerit. It's like, pay for good construction. Like, you're trying to get, like, free labor out of, like, the Better Days Foundation. I would rather… He's a charitable guy. I mean, she definitely… He definitely needs to wind up impaled. But impaled on a still intact fence. That's… That would be my request from Solomon's construction. Well, it's aged to worse. We mentioned Ernie Hudson playing a special needs character. I would say Solomon as a character. Would not be flying in 2026. So, this movie's set in Seattle and it never rains. It rains all the time. In this movie, it's like twice. It's sunny and happy, like, over and over again. No, everyone's in, like, rain, like… Yeah, Seattle's depressing. That's why I didn't want to live there. It's not. It fucking rains here 270 days a year. Don't yell at me. It should be raining in this movie all the time. Rain's expensive for movies. It is raining. Like, it's pouring when she's in the hospital. Bunch of park scenes. Yeah. You don't think they go to the park in Seattle? I think they go to parks. We looked into moving to Seattle in the 07 range in the rain statistics. Every time I've been there, it's been quite sunny and nice. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Michael not being madder at his wife for losing the FedEx plans. You think he should have taken a plunger and sort of beat it against the wall in his frustration? He's like, no, no, it's fine. I'll get to it next quarter. It's fine. I'd like to do some work now. I just feel like he'd be a little more upset. What's… So, he's applying for a grant of some kind? From the EPA, right? Or it's like a patent application or something, but he's waiting until deadline day. The last minute. He's got a FedEx and he has no second copy. She had her asthma attack all ready to go if he got really mad at her. Yeah, it's just like… Oh, so you're saying she's one hand on the inhaler. She's like laying it on a bit thin. Oh, do you think he's afraid to yell at her lest he trigger an attack? Yeah, it was… She's weaponized her asthma. He's like, you had one job. You had your fucking… The FedEx thing's in your bag. You lost it? Like, I don't understand. How'd you lose it? Go back to the restaurant. This is my career. He's just like, yeah, I'll do it. I'll get it together in three months. And then Morgan Freeman's like… I don't know. I think the chilly passive-aggressive disappointment is harder to take than an outburst of anger. I didn't like that character. How do you think Marty Craven would have reacted? Yeah. He would have been like, it's all right. I got Sonic's tickets tonight. You can make it up to me the old-fashioned way. Also, Peyton, there's only one woman for me. What did that even mean? I met my wife. I like the fact that… Fucking weird thing to say. She's like, Peyton, I'm married. I doubt that she actually takes that literally. My favorite… My favorite… As she's the woman for him. Peyton tweet-out moment is, I'll just get my baby. I mean my thing. What else do you have for what's aged the worst? Because I have a couple more. Letters of reference. Certainly. Yeah. Need those. Seattle real estate prices no longer are like that. Correct. And I couldn't decide whether to put this in picking nits, but I'll put it in what's aged the worst because when you watch the movie, you're like, this kind of takes me out. So when Claire pushes… Peyton through the window in the attic, she is going full dead sprint to knock her through the window and then throws on the brakes like prime Daryl Rivas. Yeah. This is like an asthma patient. Like she is not that athletic. Yeah. But she like puts her through a wall and then stops just to avoid going through the window and is like at a standstill. It's just really physically unbelievable. You have anything? I really think Solomon is the crowning achievement of this movie. Yeah. I have no nanny cams. Now you just have cameras all over the place for the psychopath that she… Your greenhouse exploded and then she wanders out to make sure Marlene's dead. You would just have that on film. Big missed opportunity here. I didn't know… I almost put this in weak link. No pet for Peyton the cow? There's a dead cat somewhere in this. It's a fucking easy four minutes of… Is it a cat? Oh, where's Lucky? No, I think it's a dog. There's no cat. You think it's a dog? You think it's a dog or a dog? Emma, like, you know, or maybe Peyton, like, stages a fake dog bite and they're like, we have to put it down. We have to put it… Well, that's Solomon. Solomon is the puppy of this movie. And then Peyton blames Claire for putting the dog down. Yeah. I just think it's an easy cat murder. Sorry, Joanna. That's okay. I just think that's like, what happened to Lucky? You can kill all the imaginary… Look, cats aren't named Lucky. Dogs are named Lucky. Well, just… Cats aren't named Lucky? Says who? Everyone. Okay. Yeah. I've never heard of a cat named Lucky. That's a dog name. I'm Googling this. This is what you're Googling? Yeah, I want to Google this now. Can cats be named Lucky? No, they can, but nobody does. Is Lucky a good name for a cat? Yes, absolutely. Lucky is a very popular, cheerful, gender-neutral name for cats. Are you asking me? I don't know. Luckythecat.com telling you this. I'm not listening to you guys. No. I think what happens is the cat always jumps on Claire's lap and Peyton calls the cat over and the cat doesn't want to come over and the next scene is just… It's got to be something where I think a dog would work because cats are already distrustful and mean, but a dog not liking Peyton… Yeah, barking at Peyton as soon as she shows up. Exactly. Then she's got to silence the dog. Easy extra five minutes. Yeah. A dog named Lucky. I needed two more Seattle scenes and then the big one that we didn't mention is Emma's a little too competent. She's like seven. Oh, when she like hides… When she does the fake out… She's faking the baby out. She's locking doors. This kid's like seven. You don't think Zoe and Ben were doing stuff like that? I don't. Did she pull the… Was the baby monitor gambit like her idea or just happenstance? Oh, I… That would be above her. All of a sudden, she's trying to outwit this lady. I guess I never thought about that. That's a good point. Hans Gruber scale for villain ranking? Peyton's an 11. She's outstanding. She's fantastic. Not higher than Hans Gruber. Well, I mean, Hans Gruber is really just your common thief dressed up as a terrorist. seems really psychotic. How dare you? I think maybe if she had an inexplicable accent, she could be on Hans Gruber's level, but she's one tier below. Ruffalo, Hannah Rubin, and Partridge overacting in Word? I had Marty Craven for this one. He's really dialing it up. What do you got over there? I gotta say Ernie Hudson, but it's not his fault. It's not his fault, okay. It's not his fault. That's how the role was written, but it is a lot. What do you have for a flex category? I'm just going to keep trying to make fetch happen and say my category is a cell phone would ruin this movie. Yes. There's a car phone in this movie, but if Marlene could text Claire and say, hey, I've got some wind chime based clues for you here. I'm certain that your nanny's a killer, then, you know. Gotta say also, an answering machine would help. It would. You know, it's like a lot of, like when she finds the note that Marlene called, you know, it's like Marlene being like, hey, it's Marlene. Peyton's a killer. By the way. Dr. Mutt's widow is your nanny. Or like, she does manage to call 9-1-1. I mean, 9-1-1 comes despite her just gasping into the phone, but like, you know. If you're, I'm really curious about Asthma Corner. 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Apply for Apple Card now. Use in minutes with Apple Pay. Subject to credit approval, Apple Card is issued by Goldman Sachs Bank USA, Salt Lake City branch. Terms and more at applepay.com. The CR thinks Luke Wilson should have been Harrison Ford Award for the hottest take. What do you have? I want to get back to basics with this category. Peyton's a pretty solid wife material. You know, like you have to take a long hard look at it. Natural with kids. Chris. We'll stick up for them in the face of bullying. Great looking. Chris. Well put together. She reads a room really well. You know, she sees, she can just see the landscape and definitely goes to extremes to protect her family. And I bet probably pretty good in bed. So, you know, like dynamite in the sack. I love it. Just saying, if you're Michael. You're going to wife her up? I was wondering which one of us we're going to go with. She was a better wife than Claire. I mean, she would have your back. Why was Claire a good wife? She would hold you down. Yeah. Wow. It is the hottest take. Was it her fault? Dr. Ma maybe didn't turn out to be the ideal husband and co-worker? Yeah. I like that one, Sierra. What do you have? Okay. So like, no matter what you do, even if you molest pregnant women, she'll stand by you. She'll stand by you, right? She'll stand by you no matter what you do. True. Well, I don't even think that she ever was able to publicly weigh in one way or the other on Dr. Ma. She's just more disappointed that she's lost the house and that the estate's being sued and she loses her baby. So there, she's got personal concerns. I had that in nitpicks too. Never seen like a. But when she says someone murdered my husband, I feel like, you know. I think she's blaming Claire. Yeah. The implication is these allegations against my husband. She's super loyal. What do you have, Joetta? Top that. I will. Women, I said it already, women should be allowed to be crazy in movies. I will say, maybe we've gotten too woke. That's what I'll say. The 2025 remake, this sucks. Jo's freaking bad on us. The 2025 remake, which of course I watched everywhere, episode of was terrible. Yeah. And I don't really remember. Wait, was it a show or a movie? Hulu show is bad. Was it really? Micah Malone. No, Micah Monroe. Yeah. Micah Monroe, yeah. And Mary Elizabeth Winstead. I have a really good hottest take. Ciara's going to be jealous. This movie could have owned Gen X with like one tweak. Michael, the husband, instead of being a genetic engineer, should have been the head of Sub Pop. And we could add two extra scenes where they go to like, yeah, this new band, Pearl Jams, I got to go and I'm going to go with Marlene because she's. You think you're beating Peyton is marriage material and Woke is bad from me? Yeah. Michael is the head of Sub Pop. We now dive into the Seattle grunge scene as we're in a Nanny from Hell movie. You and me going into Netflix or Apple TV and be like, we have this new vision for Hand the Rocks the Cradle remake. You know, we've told this story twice from the perspective of women. We just feel like Michael and Marty really didn't get their fair share. So here's Michael and he's been to every Pearl Jam show since they switched from Wookiee Blaylock to Pearl Jam. And then Marty is one of the great supporters of Seattle Professional Sport. So does the Claire Payton plot happen in the background? Yeah, it's just like our crazy wives. Those guys were at the last Mother Love Bone show. It's really dramatic. But you have, instead of delivering the FedEx of his genetic material. It's his tape somewhere. It's the Pearl Jam tapes of 10. It's the first one. Eddie gave these to me himself. There's no other copy of 10. There's no other copy. You have to bring this to FedEx. Payton's like fucking tearing it up. And we just have the music from that era instead of Pirates of Penzance. This becomes the best movie of all time. That would be amazing. If they were listening to like Rearview Mirror. The Gilbert and Sullivan is so weird to me in this movie because like I don't understand it at all. I mean, I was thinking about Sleeping with the Enemy because there is some like great like classical music in that movie. But, he also just has Gilbert and I presume it's him. He's the one who's like singing in the beginning. He has Gilbert and Sullivan posters all over his house. I'm like, get a second hobby. He's got one thing which is He's singing it when he's shaving his daughter. He's a loser. I don't like that guy at all. Does that guy have to shave his neck every day to get that line on the beard? like Remington like stubble shavers. By the way, he didn't need that much shaving cream just to shave like the bottom of his neck. Like, come on, dude. That guy has like, you know, some like nice, lustrous hair and he keeps a sharp line neckline on the beard. That's an everyday. What if that's what his like genetic science stuff is? It's like neck beards. I'm not only the president, I'm a customer. He created the Mach 5. Yeah. Just blocks these hair follicles. Casting what ifs. We mentioned that they tested for the opposite parts before they landed on Claire and Mrs. Mott. Sybil Shepard turned down the role of Peyton. Yeah. For her feminist ideals. Yeah. This was end of moonlighting. Yeah. She's like, she should have done this. She definitely should have. And I'm glad she didn't. She really should have done this. Sybil and Rebecca, if Rebecca had played Claire and Sybil was Peyton, that would have been blonde on blonde crime. Can you have two blondes in one movie? I don't know. I think it's illegal. Illegally blonde. Allegedly, Rosanna Arquette was involved with Peyton. I don't know if I believe that. I couldn't find second source for it. Similar look. Instead, she played that your wife with the shit on her face. Is that that lady with the shit on her face? And then they thought about, they tested Christopher McDonald and Kevin Spacey for Michael. And thank God Kevin Spacey's in this movie because that would have absolutely ruined the rewatchability. I don't know. We did Working Girl. We navigated. No, I just feel like him as a genetic scientist trying to fend off Rebecca DeWarnay. He would have been good as Marty though. He would have. Christopher McDonald would have been good as Marty. Best that guy award? John Delancey. John Delancey. Cue from Star Trek. Can I offer you Matthew Lawrence's twin brother, Mitchell, that you thought was Matthew Lawrence? In one scene as the lawyer, but yeah, John Delancey. Is Mitchell Lawrence like also a TV sports radio host now? Yeah. Is he? Yeah. Mitchell had the more interesting stuff for our purposes, but I think Matthew, or no, Mitchell was, Matthew is the one that was in Eddie and the Cruisers then on 2 and 0. And is now a sports radio host, right? Mitchell was his brother. Okay. Woo, just some guys from Jersey. How do you, how do like twins, twin, twins who act, like that must be really contentious. It's not like the Morris twins where you can just Jeremy and Jason London. There's always a better one, right? It works when you're children, like the Olsen twins. Sure. But once you get older, then what? Yeah, they had a lot of, there's a bunch of babies playing the little baby. They didn't really work for the Olsen twins because now they're like just. The Ashmore twins? Yeah. They don't smile. I mean, how often do you see the Olsen twins? Every picture I see them, I'm like, that's your Olsen twin? Have you seen my Rue face? From Euphoria? You know what? That's pretty good. Yeah, good job. It's pretty good. Can you give the double married care smirk? Can you do that? I can't. Can you do the let's go do drugs smirk that she does? Dan Waiter's a word. Go to town, CR. I mean, it's one of the best ones we've got. Like this is what, three scenes. She basically shows up at the house, eyeballs her, goes to dinner, goes to the bar with Michael, And then gets axed out. But. It's in the. Female Dion Waiters Hall of Fame. It's a nothing part that she imbues with so much character just with all of her gestures and all of her little like teeth alone. And Short Cuts is this year or the next year? This is right around and then she's in Fugitive and gets cut out. But this is Julianne Moore is starting to happen. Also I would say I was going to bring this up a little bit later but we can see the foundation of Linda Partridge here. We can see a little don't call me lady. I was waiting for that. Do you want to hit me with the don't call me lady? No, just like Sierra's better. Don't call me lady! A little more wavering in your voice. Recasting couch director or city? I think I love that I love the Seattle-ness of this movie. It's really the perfect place. But I also wouldn't mind like a sweaty New Orleans version of this. Sweaty New Orleans is great much more erotic we'd need we need Michael and Marty to really step up there but just because we've done Boogie Basic Instinct recently I wouldn't mind 92 San Francisco. Although I wonder whether San Francisco it would have just been a little bit more like you know this is a bigger city let's check some references let's like make sure this nanny isn't Oh yeah, there's two naivens here. I have Boston but specifically Charlestown. Hey Claire, you gotta take care of that fucking nanny I keep telling ya. What does Peyton sound like? How do you say Peyton in a Boston accent? Peyton. It's just the same. Yeah. Well, the best one would be shut up Marlene. Stay out of our fans. The Boston part. Can you imagine Marlene smoking parliaments being like I'm showing an apartment over in the fence. They're at Sully's Pub trying to figure out the surprise party. We can't tell her. Hey, if you give him a thousand dollars Cam Neely will come by and say hi. Craig, what do you have for a flex? I'm gonna go with the Marion Cabretti pizza cutting award for why didn't anyone on set stop this. As somebody who had seasonal asthma as a kid and had an inhaler the way they depict Claire using an inhaler in this movie is offensive to people with asthma. It is a light spritz of air. Yeah, and she open-mouthed it. She didn't even touch it to her lips and she's immediately recovered which is not how it works. There was no asthma consultant at all because she's like Yeah, you gotta wrap your mouth She treats it like it's fucking breath spray. You gotta create a seal. You gotta it's a deep inhale. She thinks it's binaca. Yeah, she does think it's binaca. It takes a while. Like it takes five, ten seconds and you're doing multiple puffs. That thing is three inches from her mouth like it's Listerine. Would asthma kick in when you were stressed out lately? That's real. Mine was more just like because of allergies like running would be hard but I think that was a thing. I had it too. The hay fever. Did you have inhalers like stashed all around the house? Yeah, I never really had a tax like this but I would just have an inhaler I would take regularly from like March to June but that is a thing where stress induces asthma attacks but an embarrassing use of it in this movie. The asthma spray-ish scenes. Yeah, when she's like some of the dumbest things that have ever been captured on film and I can't it's not like only a couple people have asthma like a lot of people use inhalers. There's nobody involved in this movie about asthma. It's just fucking bizarre that they chose to play it that way. Also, her asthma just goes away in the last scene. Claire. She's about to die and then gets up Oh, she's faking. She's faking. Oh, that's a Yeah. Yeah, because they show the little kid and the little kid's like Oh, I know. Because that little kid is smart at all times. Yeah. That's why it's part of why the asthma runner is there so at the end she can like pretend to have it and then just charge her with it. If they remade this movie now the little kid would be on a device all the time and it would be completely useless when it came time to being resourceful. Are you saying a cell phone would have ruined this movie? I agree. Hey, you gotta take that kid to the third floor. Throw your iPad at her. Half-assed internet research. You mentioned it was Amanda Silver's film school thesis. Yeah. Film was shot in location. Mostly Seattle, Tacoma. Really wasn't a lot of good research except for Mrs. Mott visiting Michael's workplace and it was filmed in Redmond, Washington at the Biotechniques Laboratories which was demolished two years later to make room for the expansion of Microsoft. I also really like in that lab scene where like Michael's assistant's like hey, like really hot hot woman's he's like that's my nanny. How dare you. Apex Mountain. De Mornay, would you go this or Risky Business? Risky Business I would say. It felt like she was going to be one of the biggest stars in the world after Risky Business. Matt McCoy, I'm going to say yes. Sure. Inhalers? Inhalers in a movie, I think yes. Yeah. How about cinematic breastfeeding? This or Barbarian? Why don't you pull out your list? Season two of American Horror Story. If Sean was here, he'd be like, tell us more, CR. Sean would be like, actually, you're forgetting Michelangelo and Timmy. La Notte. Like, they do feel like there's two scenes where it is like, how did they do this with the breastfeeding? What do you mean? Because it's a real baby. We didn't have the CGI back then. And it seems like it's an actual breastfeeding situation. But there's no way like Rebecca De Mornay was breastfeeding a baby. Just put a baby on her nipple. But probably something over her. I think it was a doll. And the baby next to her. No, but the baby was moving. But don't they have like dolls to like show women how to do it in the first place? Like to be like, this is maybe. But that technology, I don't think was that advanced in 92. What about like a Merkin? Like a boob Merkin? That's probably what it was. Yeah. Ernie Hudson, no. Evil Navy. Just flat no. One of the all-time conversational topic switches. Evil Navy movies? Yeah. Yes. Greenhouses in a movie has to be yes, right? Yes. What's a better greenhouse? You seriously haven't been in a greenhouse? I seriously have not been in a greenhouse. Would you go to a botanical garden? Yeah, but not, but then usually there's like a spot. Outdoor area. There's a spot in the botanical garden that has a greenhouse and I will not go in it. I really want to test this out. I will not go in it. Seattle, yes. 92, 93. This is it. For sure. We're in the apex. Yeah. Julianne Moore, no. Asthma taxing movie, maybe. A crisp, Curtis Hanson. White Oxford button all the way up. Hmm. Yeah. She just owns that look in this movie. Cruiser Hanks. So it should be Hanks, right? It's Hanks. But wouldn't it be fun to have Cruz and De Mornay back together again? Wouldn't it be fun if, what do you mean, like Cruz playing Dr. Mott? Cruz as Matt McCoy. One scene, Cruz as Dr. Mott. Yeah. Taking the glove off. I'll take care of it. Why don't you let her know about her test results? That's what Cruz needed in 92. They're all clear. Yeah. 92, Cruz is definitely needing to do this. Not far and away. Prepping for Eyes Wide Shut. Could Cruz have been Solomon? Oh my God, Bill. Is there running? I was trying to think of how Cruz could run. What a cursed concept. Cruz is as the dad. There's no running though. He turns this movie down. It's got to be Hanks. It is Hanks. We got rid of Scorsese or Spielberg after doing it with Spielberg. If Marty comes on the pod, will you bring him back? We'll bring him back. Okay. Re-adding, was there a better title for this movie? A category we used to have and I have no idea why we got rid of it. Yeah. No, this title rules. I think this title is the right title. Yeah. Right? It's very memorable. It absolutely rules. Picky Nits. I have like 10. I'll just go with my biggest one, which is how the fuck do they not know what Mott's wife looks like if an OBGYN did what he did to my family. I would be like, I'm going to the trial. Well, first you run him over with your car. First run him with the car. But if that didn't work out, I would be very engaged with what this guy was about. And I think I would know somehow what his wife looked like. Also, this would be the biggest story in Seattle for like two weeks. Also, the local news showing Claire's face. This is a huge one. I have that too. Yeah. Here's this woman that called out this creep. Here's her face if anybody wants to see it in the hospital while. It's actually a rule that you can't do that without consent. You can't use their name either. Yeah. But they're like, coming up, Claire Bartell accuses a dead doctor. I'm going to tell you why Claire Bartell might be wrong. It's crazy that they. Here's where she lives. We mentioned no background checks. Also, just. These. See, you're with your nanny a lot. At no point is Claire doing the. So, what happened to your husband? Dude, what. Why. Like, just. Why does Peyton make it so complicated? Peyton could just be like, yeah, I just got here from Cleveland. Divorced. Well, she wanted to say my husband was a murderer. Murdered by you. You know? A couple days after my baby, it's like. What? Before or after? Who died first? Why did the baby die? She. Yeah. Husband died first in real life. Yeah. And then she's like, he was murdered. She miscarried, yeah. I want. I want my revenge. Okay. Well. Revenge on what? What are you going to do? I don't know. I just had a lot of questions on that. Um. Peyton beating up the school, Billy, I'm guessing would probably get. reported to the principal and maybe. Again, it was 1992. There was no one supervising us on the blacktop. There's like 10 witnesses. There's people in different parts of the playground. All the kids are like this crazy blonde almost yanked off arm out of its socket. One kid's like, fuck yeah. A sexual fantasy was born. The kid with hair under his arms is like, nice. This is my wife's biggest one. So one of the times he goes down when our guy Matt McCoy is getting a little horny. Say more. And Rebecca DeMornay is. Picking up ice cubes. Right. In her see-through nightie. Putting them back in the tray and then putting the tray back in the freezer. Yes. This is a great call. What the fuck is going on? Do you think it's like. Who wants ice cubes that were just on the floor? Does he see that they've been on the floor that she's put them back away or is she just like. He's watching it but he's looking at the nightgown. I'd be looking at the fucking ice cubes. You'd be like, don't put those back in there. Hey, what are you doing? People walk on that floor, Peyton. Do you think the entire ice gambit was like. Just making noise? Executed to lure him down there. Yes. How can she know that he would come down and not Annabella Ciara? I guess she's like, well, if Claire comes down, I'll just be like, my bad, drop something. Again, this is. In the see-through nightgown that I always wear. I'm right here to consult in these movies. This is where he drinks decaf at night because it keeps him up. Doesn't want to get kept up and she switches the coffee so he'll stay up at night and come down and that's when she gets up. Another nitpick that we've kind of alluded to is the last shot of this movie is like Claire and Solomon being like, we did it. Good job. Where the fuck is Michael? He's like in agony like Joe Theismann. Crying in the basement. Maybe trying to like crawl up the stairs in the basement. What about this wind chime clue? Oh my God. Well, then she goes over the top with the painting the baby room the same way. Well, the turtles is one thing. And again. But Julia Moore spots the baby room and Julia Moore via magnifying glass spots a solitary wind chime and is like, I've seen that. It's your bog standard wind chime. That's what all wind chimes look like. She's good at her job. Absolutely not. I don't know if it's because I grew up in the Bay Area where like there's just a lot of wind chimes going on but I wouldn't be like, well, that wind chime clearly someone else's. I do love that she's like, what the fuck is that ugly thing when she walks in? Well, how about Peyton leaves the breast pumps behind in the old house? She's going to leave some stuff back here including all my breast pumps? That makes no. Isn't that how staged and being chimed? You know, it's being shown. Wouldn't they have cleared out the breast pumps? Sure. People sold the house. I think the idea is like it's a cool nursery. Check out how you could use it as a nursery. Check out these funky breast pumps. Also, for all the guys in the room, when that guy's like, what kind of weird toy is that? Like, is that not the dumbest shit you've ever heard? We mentioned this earlier but the dad broke his legs falling seven feet. Not even. It was like five feet. Both of them? Both legs? Like, just shat. And he gets hit in the face with a shovel but his face is fine, right? So, Claire. No, it's a little fucked up. It's a little damaged? Yeah, it's a little fucked up. Claire, my legs are broken. What? Both of them. Both legs. You got to take the rest of this movie. I've been useless this whole movie and I'll remain useless till the very end. They need one extra scene where they're just pushing him around in the wheelchair and he's got these two giant glass. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Claire has asthma from the wheelchair. I'll be in Peyton's bed, Claire. Yeah. I'll be waiting. This is the opportunity where it's like Marty is pushing him in the wheelchair. He's like, you know what, you and me, we can move in together and we can start. I got plenty of room now that Marlene's dead. There's a couple moments. A couple moments when it's clear it's a doll and not a baby. Yeah. And then, this is my biggest one. Well, they're tied together. We already talked about whether the greenhouse would have killed Marlene or not. I said, say no. Not without, you know. Who's the prime suspect in Claire's death? Or in Marlene's death? Isn't it just an accident? It's an accident. Is it? It's a greenhouse accident. It's poor greenhouse construction by Claire. If anything, she should feel guilty about it. Okay. The police call, hey, we're just going to check out Claire for a second. GLPD is not acquitting themselves gloriously. That guy just wandered into a crime scene when that cop opens the greenhouse door and just wanders in. I'm like, uh-uh. What's your history with Claire? Because we heard you had a, a moment at your surprise party a month ago where you were yelling at your husband. Oh, you think Claire should be, might be playing. Yeah, Claire should be a fucking suspect for this. Well, wouldn't also, like, if the cops came by, wouldn't they just want to see driver's licenses from everybody? Does Peyton have a Peyton Flanders driver's license? I think Claire is a suspect immediately because there's, we already had the altercation with them two weeks before. So you have that. Marlene didn't have a funeral? It's just a bunch of people smoking. She's just dead? You don't think she did offscreen? And Claire's like, I'm going to go to Marlene's office. It's just intact. Everything's still there. It was interesting that her, like, day planner was just sitting there. And how long was Claire in the hospital? Was there an asthma attack? She's in there for four weeks? Let's ask Craig. How long do you go to the hospital? It's like she had COVID. I don't know. A couple days? I don't know. A couple days. Step back for the funeral and people are, is that awkward with Marlene's family? Like, so what happened? Your greenhouse collapsed on our daughter? You wanted more time with her husband. You wanted to see him weeping and wailing at the funeral. Anyone in Marlene's wife was like, wait, the greenhouse collapsed on Marlene and killed her? The Mariner's at a homestay. He couldn't make it. Marty's like, okay, wait. Edgar Martinez is on an incredible streak right now. I just had a lot of questions. You wanted Marty Craven to just have his moment at the funeral. Yeah. Maybe he could have quoted some more poetry. He could have had some more poetry in this. Also, you know what always works? A funeral scene. Be like, Marlene, there's two things she loved. Parliament lights and condominiums. And this poem will apply. Yeah. About the hand that rocks the cradle. There was no house she couldn't sell. No cigarette she couldn't smoke. Sequel, prequel, prestige to be all black cast or untouchable. I feel like it's done all of these. They didn't do a prequel. That Hulu one. The Dr. Mott prequel is still in development. The Hulu thing was October 2025 when they had that. It doesn't feel like it exists. And now CR and I will have our Seattle sub pop built around Marty. Middle-aged man version of hand that rocks the cradle. Is that Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins, Fergie the Florist, Zane Lowe, Robert Evans, Dr. Charles Nichols or somebody else? I do just have like Marlene Craven want me to spell it don't call me lady. I like that was the one I have, but I would love to see Robert Evans getting into Peyton. Oh, she knows how to dress. She knows how to rear a child. Her legs go on forever. This is just your hottest take again. It's my hottest take as read by Patton Oswalt doing Robert Evans. It's funny because I had Loja as Byron Mayo for a while. for this. Yeah. Peyton, Claire. Yeah. Couldn't help noticing any at the at the Claire surprise party. Just having Byron Mayo with no shirt. Or if Byron Mayo walked in with the ice cube situation. Maybe he was at the funeral. Tiny white teeth. Yeah. Ladies don't fight. Just one Oscar who gets it. That's got to be De Mornay. De Mornay. We have to throw in here the Catherine Shremel. Would you throw your life away for this obvious stay away award? Because Claire's husband thought about it twice in the kitchen there. For me, even for as seduced as I can be by this type, for me, I'm out. Sharks. Probably unanswerable questions. Baby Joey with the double breastfeeding situation. What did his next 10 years look like? Well, here's the question. So like, is he like super strong like LeBron after going to Germany? No, but like he's not he's not drinking from her. But he's still like he's not drinking from her. He's drinking from his mom. Yeah. But he's still I think he's doing both though. No, he's he like that's why she's so stressed because he won't latch for her. But he's gaining weight. And Michael's just like then what's the problem? So we don't take this kid to the hospital? Yeah. All of these children need to go to the doctor. If you think your your little girl has been molested, she needs to go see a therapist. And if you think your baby is growing despite not drinking any milk at all. The Bartels are just like that's one problem solved. Let's move on. Yeah. We'll save a fortune on my baby. Baby gaining weight it is. No problem. Next one. On to Cleveland. Mentioned this earlier but I do feel like they could have snuck in a 92 Sonics game scene. Yeah. Maybe the double date. Maybe the guys are going there after just so we get some Sean Kemp just to mix it up. Wait, what category are we on? Unanswerable questions. Why weren't the Sonics in this movie? The Sonics are right there. I have one really good one though unless you guys have any. My biggest unanswerable question was what was Peyton like before her OBGYN husband? So you want the Peyton prequel? Well, I'm just curious what she was like. Peyton's bliss. Did Peyton have any friends? Did they all abandon her? I think she was like a Seattle socialite, right? Right. So wouldn't there be like a little bit more awareness? Somebody would know this. Yeah. Unanswerable question. I don't have one. Is this movie better if they look out at the end and Peyton's not there in the front lawn? Oh, Michael Myers? Michael Myers is the ending. Somehow Peyton has survived. Hand that rocks the cradle too? It's just like Still rocking? It's like we did it guys. Look out. She's gone. What's the sequel? I just I don't want her at the end. Peyton damaged but alive on the road and where does she pop up next? Los Angeles working for a film producer. Yeah. You know, it's like we could get into it. Why not? Maybe a film producer Why close the door? The film producer who made a lifetime movie of the week about her life and now she's going to get revenge on him. Why close the door? Great character. Tori Spelling, how dare you? Yeah, exactly. got it memorabilia you'd want or not want from this movie for me I would not want the breast pumps from the leftover ones from the house that wouldn't sell would you want an inhaler that has never seen a pair of human lips attached to it yeah the sewer movie used inhaler we're not allowed to use the cars right we could never use can I get an old Volvo wagon I've always wanted an old Volvo wagon those were great cars very safe they ran for like 300,000 miles also that beige color yeah perfect oh god yeah I dated a girl who had one of those cars and the thing had like 200,000 miles and was just fucking cranking those things were tanks I always wanted one of those Coach Finstock Mr. Miyagi best worst life lesson don't hire a hot nanny or don't build a greenhouse don't let a hot woman into a power position in your household I believe yeah that was a good one check the references but also don't go into a greenhouse not ever not even once yeah best double feature choice I think single white female but you know I mean just to be in the spirit of the pod sleeping with the enemy Laura I love that movie I have Scorned with Shannon Tweed nice not familiar with that one I would say not the housemaid which is the double feature that I Scorned with Shannon Tweed was this movie but the Skin and Max version of it it was considered to be the Shannon Tweed apex for her they show these movies all the time on like as you know when I was here for Just One of the Guys and I let you know that I didn't have HBO so I watched all the movies that I watched on like TNT, TBS so I the nipples were not a factor when we rewatched Hand that Rocks the Cradle but they showed this and Sleeping with the Enemy like all the time safest cable and my parents were just like go ahead and watch it yeah who won the movie Rebecca De Mornay De Mornay easy Craig she won the movie I mean she like LeBron 2018 game won 50, 10, and 10 or whatever he had won the movie would you have given the BAM out of bio 83 point game award for her well no because I knew where it came from because I saw Risky Business and she kind of changed my life yeah but I have to say the first like 40, 50 minutes of this movie I wasn't in love with it I thought it was really kind of slow and drawn out there's like a weird acting style I agree with you about was it Michael yeah is that the name of his character I feel like him and Claire have a very weird acting style I don't know if that was the point of the movie but they're like almost mannequin-esque I feel like I'm watching an HR instructional video where it was like hey would you like to come over for dinner that sounds nice thank you alright pick you up at 7 7 sounds great like that was like the first hour of the movie yeah and then but I really felt like your pure hatred for Peyton really just drives you to the end of this movie I think she is one of the most despicable people I've seen in a long time and you are just so you're like I need to see this fucking lady die she has to die she can't just get arrested it's horrible I would argue she still wins like even though she dies like okay Michael broke his legs Claire now kind of thinks that Michael wants to have sex with Peyton maybe had sex with Marlene I can I think I think Claire can definitively say Michael is like not not a protector like he is he is gonna get distracted too easily like Marlene's dead this family does not get out unscathed what is Zewan Nao here like this family's fucked up what's the next day like the baby was breastfeeding are we moving away from Seattle if you wanna make if this family's staying together I think they have to I think they're leaving Seattle they should go to Boston I think they're out of the greenhouse business I think Michael probably loses his job because he can't stand up for nine months yeah because he broke both of his legs you can do science while sitting or he's in like the Stephen Hawking wheelchair maybe I think most scientists sit most of the time that seemed like a very standing lap they're going to Denver restarting yeah and I think that kid has really traumatized the daughter maybe little Joey too Joey's doing great like she the whole family's a mess after even after Peyton's death Peyton really ran him off she got her revenge yeah I think a problem is often the case when I'm on an episode where it's the early 90s it's like so many people have done it since that it's hard to see this trope since that it's like yeah I also love like so many 90s movies just have no idea how to end the fucking movie like this movie just ends I thought I was going to see another scene and it's like Solomon come downstairs they don't even have like the okay credits yeah it's like credits roll on the front of the house the B-roll on the house it's been brought out of the basement everybody's happy he's still in the basement I love a shot of the family together it's just like Solomon come on downstairs you wanted a group hug with broken legs Michael Michael's legs are broken at the basement yeah Solomon's just like dancing out of the room with the baby it's very odd it's very confusing I love the early 90s also Claire's taking the baby back she's not like no no no it's cool yeah you can hold her you don't really see credits roll over usually it cuts to black now you don't see the credits roll over footage anymore well now you don't see credits anymore because this movie just went right to five seconds you know five seconds for the next thing we're throwing at you so I couldn't even I had to like rewind you were like stop because I couldn't remember what Dr. Mott's name was but God forbid you just got to enjoy credits for 10 seconds I was legitimately fired up when Marlene spots the wind chime yeah and was like little Xerox printout she's like cancel my morning and then she's driving her like it's a beamer fuck off yeah she's like fuck off give me a cigarette she's in a BMW right she's like zooming through traffic I'm going to come back and remember the Titans I'm like let's fucking go CR would you have watched a Marlene separate movie of Marlene real estate in Seattle just her smoking in people's houses just Gordon Gekko but Marlene yeah selling Seattle with Marlene I think she fucks I think she fucks whoever she wants in Seattle that's why when she shows up in Boogie Nights we had some history with her it's like I'm ready for this lady to have her moment and then it finally happened with Boogie Nights I think was when it happened alright guys From Hell Joanne Robinson thank you Chris Ryan thank you thanks Craig thanks Chris thanks Eduardo we're going to be back next week with another From Hell movie I think we're doing The Good Son next week I think we are that's a good one can't wait for Craig's reaction to that one that's next week thank you thank you This episode is brought to you by the movie Mutiny. 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