The Gwyneth Paltrow Episode

[MUSIC PLAYING] Commiss, Gwyneth. Here is Gwyneth, how true. Sorry, it's not medieval times. But I'm going to tell you about this girl. She's pretty fine in my book. She's amazing. Her name's Gwyneth, and it's Paltrow. And she's a great actor, and this is pretty long. But she's also owns a company called Goop, and probably a lot of other things, by-- and we're so excited. Too much. [LAUGHTER] [MUSIC PLAYING] Hurry up. You've got all your fun out. Ooh. Toss me one. See, a guy like me goes for a white claw. Now, camera right here, I want you to follow me real slow. So right now, I got a mango, and I just want you to hear the sound. You hear that now? I don't know why you want to smell it, but why do I want to smell it? Because I want to be transformed into night life. Also, I need to kick him back with my friends, and just having a great time. Maybe it's summer. Maybe it's even fall. This drink's just kind of good at any time. Yeah, seasonal, none withhold it. White claw. Toss me it. I'm just kidding. I don't know. You can drink these with your supper. Toss it to me, open. Really? Just try it. Watch this. It's never been done. You hit it right in the hand. No, it's not going to work. It's summer fun. OK. OK, do it. We have Gwyneth Paltrow coming. OK, OK, let's clean up. Let's clean up. We don't want her feet to get sticky. Let's clean up. I will say the good thing about white claws, even when you spill it, it's not that big of a deal. Oh my god, I just stepped in it. I'm so annoyed that I just stepped in it. OK, let's clean up. You can't be that annoyed. You love white claw. I love white claw, but I'm just annoyed at everyone's-- You're annoyed at the situation. Yeah, the decisions. But white claw just brings out the fun enough, I guess. Chuck, are you going to keep the goop out? Chuck, I think she's there. This remains. I want her to see that I had it. Hi. Hi, bud. How are you doing? Oh. You're a movie star. That's what, like, iconic looks. Yeah, defining things of, like, culture. Yes. I'm such a goop fan. I want to know about them, a giant. I can't. I was hallucinating. My fix too fucked up, that was show of girl anyway. Please, please, please, don't keep that in the camera. This is so weird. [LAUGHTER] You guys, this is such a cool neighborhood. We fell in love in this house. We did. Oh, yeah. That's more info than I thought. I was going to get right off the bat. They did, they did, they did fully fall in love. Did you guys kiss right there the first time? Yes, kiss against the fridge. It's a good house to what it was like. How did you meet? What was the-- A writer on my TV show introduced me to her because she was friends with her. Do you know she's only been-- she's only spent, is it one week alone with no boyfriend? How do you have a boyfriend consistently? You were single for one week, right? She's been single for like-- I was single for like months before me. Months with dating hands before you committed. I think like five weeks single over the past 15 years. You guys are pushing in narrative that I didn't even sign up for. You didn't sign up for it, but reality is for you. She's been single for five weeks and 10 years. Yeah. She's a catch, guys. I don't want to tell you. I always-- I like relationships, I think. I want to say, I did predict that the woman that I would marry would be someone who was-- I feel like out of a relationship because I feel like the best woman always gets snatched up so quick. That's also a narrative that I would hate. My wife was single for five years. Yeah. You were single? No. You were single for five-- My wife. Sure, sure. Are you married? Yeah, we just got married. Guys, no way. Yeah, yeah, and he got married a month before me. Yeah. Congratulations, both of you. I had no idea. I mean, where did you get married? In Santa Barbara. Where? You rented a palm tree farm and converted it into a-- we just wanted to do something unconventional. And Selena was like, she had a dream for her wedding since she was a kid. And like, she's like, I want to walk down the aisle. And I want the aisle to be like Persian rugs off-centered. I don't want normal flowers. I don't want it to feel bougie. I don't want-- and like, so it was like-- it was like incredible. And you could tell we put so much effort into it, but also didn't feel like stuffy. I love that. That was so cool. Hey, why is it called goop? OK, because this is so weird. So basically, kind of around the time, like, early internet days, I think of myself as like, pretty discerning, right? It's like, I'm always trying to find, like, the best taco in Venice. And, you know, or like, what is the best farmer's sink? What is the-- you know, like, I was always, like, cataloging, like, if I was on location as it, you know, in my 20s, like, where's the actual place to get coffee in Paris? Because there were no guides. You know, there was no-- Yeah. --and then when the internet started, all of the information was so bad. And I was like, I wish-- So I wish. Right. So I was like, I wish there was just a place where all of the good stuff was actually aggregated. And then I could save time. And I could-- my friends could come and, you know, see. And basically, so I was like, well, why don't I just do that? And then I was like, well, this is early. This is 2008. So this is like-- Oh, wow. It's like almost 17 years ago. I'm searching for-- there couldn't be a person who's searching more for a list than me. And I remember when your stuff started happening. And you're like, hey, and I was telling them, you're like, Christmas lists and all of those. Yeah. OK, keep going. So I was-- and also, I really-- I kind of did so many films in my 20s that I kind of hit a wall. I sort of burned out. And then I had my daughter. And I was like, OK, I'm not. I need to take a break. Like I just-- Promacting? Yeah. Yeah. How'd you do it, though? Weren't you like-- I really felt burnt out. Like I really felt like I had exhausted myself. And I was kind of like, who am I doing this for? I had a little bit of like an early midlife crisis. Did you feel like unfulfilled professionally? Like you were like, I've kind of done all of the things for so long now that what can I challenge myself with? Like what's the next and vulnerable? Maybe. You know, I think I felt like I had sort of like-- I had done a lot of things that I felt proud of. And I think it was more like I needed to just-- I was living in London at the time. And I had this baby. And I was like, I just need to be a person, you know? No, I was 30 when I had Apple. OK. Oh, you're so young. That sounds great. That sounds like an ideal-- Didn't have to start the interesting name trend. Yes, I feel like it did. What's that mean? Oh, Apple. What do you mean? What do you mean, Apple? I don't remember who you're talking about. I just thought she started the-- No, I think that's what I was saying. It was the first time I ever heard a crazy name. Culture, I really-- because I was-- I remember when-- like I just remember hearing that your name, your daughter, Apple, and it kind of became like the benchmark for celebrities naming their kids. It's great. Sorry, guys. See, that's a good name. It's a great name. Oh, but to finish the goop thing, I kind of-- I met with this great advertising marketing legend in New York named Peter Arnell for some advice and asked him like, what I should call it. No, big ditch. No, this was-- This was just-- It's just organic. Like, just how do you call it? Wait, check what you say what happened today. Also, you know I'm an investor, correct? I know. Thank you. You actually know who the investor is. Of course, I know of course. I'm an investor. That's cool. Wait, wait, tell them what happened today. When I opened the thing-- No, the order. What? Did it get messed up? No, no, it's not your fault. You know, there's-- really, it's only-- Both of these are both our faults today. Oh, no. This is not my fault at all. I ordered it. No, no, it was not anyway. Me balls? This is for my mom. I'm going to bring it upstairs for-- I ordered an order. I thought, you know, it said, you know, your delivery guy will be a robot. And I said, OK. And then I put my phone down, took a shower. Mine and my own business came back, like 30 minutes later to check the status. And I said, order has been canceled. The robot was not able to do what it needed to do. And I said to the point, I know it's got nothing to do with viewing your business. And then I ordered it again, right back in the day. I'm not into robot delivery. I-- that happened to me one time with a smoothie. And it just never came. Oh, he has one problem with Goop that I actually-- it's my favorite part about Goop. Tell me. And we'll say who's right and wrong. I'm such a Goop fan. Like, I love it. Thank you. Me nitpicking is only because I'm so passionate about the brand. No, he's wrong. And I'm right. And I'm so happy that you eat Goop because I feel like it was the first because I started eating it all the time. And he doesn't eat anything healthy ever. It's like the healthiest thing I eat. Is that the Goop fellas? That's really good. Yeah. I have questions. OK, tell him his thing. Basically, can I have a piece? Yeah, yeah, have a piece for your mom. No, no, no. She's just going to have it with the lice. OK, I don't want to eat your mom's pizza. This is the Goop fellas. This is really-- Yeah, it's my favorite one. I have questions. OK, I love the Caesar salad. Thank you. I love the concept in general of chicken Caesar wraps. So I was so excited to order the wrap. Yeah. My complaint is it comes completely dry with the sauce on the side, untost, or at least with-- that's-- and I did it again. And it happened again. So I think it probably is a Goop thing, which I understand is probably to avoid soggyness. But there's no way I can make that chicken Caesar wrap really taste like a chicken Caesar wrap by doing the dip, in my opinion. And he says-- So my favorite part about Goop is that it comes separately and all the things-- and you build it yourself. As somebody who cooks, he doesn't understand the concept of it. Why are you talking to your toss it? You can't. - You can't toss the salad. - You don't need, do I do? - You don't want to be soggy, that's what it is. - And then like, I feel of this, I order a lot of chicken Caesar wraps. - And they come. - All yours are just soggy. - Yeah, and they're disgusting. - Yeah, but maybe they are soggy and I don't care. Maybe I just don't even care about soggy. - You don't care about this possible, right? Can I ask you, okay, would you be open to taking the paper off? Not opening the whole thing, but just peeling back the wrap enough to slather on the inside and refolding? - I would attempt that, sure. I think what would end up happening, I would find the task a little burdensome, and like, I'm not good at actually. Like, I don't think it's gonna be as simple as like, I think I would mess it up to a degree, and then I know the outcome, while it would be better than dipping, it still wouldn't be tossed as far as-- - You should just get extra and really dip it. So what's the difference? Did you really dip it? - I understand, it's like, it's just a different animal. - Right, when I come back down, we're gonna play again. - But, the seven minute egg. - Oh, do you eat guppalat, like, or do you, like, if you order on the-- - I got your food. - Finally. - Oh yeah, I booked us that place on Airbnb for the weekend. - Okay, does it have a kitchen? - Nah, they forgot the kitchen, and this way, of course it has a kitchen. It's not like a hotel, it's like a big, like, palatial estate, and there's like, a plate will be making like, linguine clams, we'll go walk on the beach, you'll love it. - I don't know. - I just went upstairs and my mom goes, finally. - And she goes, I'm so hungry. - I, yeah. - Wait, I just wanna know, what are you right? You said you were a writer. - Oh, I write, I'm a rapper, and then I also, I'm a comedian, and I have a TV show. - Oh, wait a minute, oh my God. Was it on Fox? - FX. - FX, okay, I know who you are. I'm so in there. - What's flushing into your brain right now? I just wanna know your-- - I like blushing, because my son is obsessed with you. - EA. - Oh wow. So he's gonna literally be so upset that I didn't know immediately who you are. - No, it's cool. We'll just zoom in on your face right now, and we'll play-- - Can you see how red I am? - Yeah, yeah. - No, you don't look red. - You do look like, like, I was thinking when you came in, I was like, wow, I was like, that's what like, someone like iconic looks. - I know, I was like-- - No, I was just like, whoa, it's like, it's like a, do you know what I'm talking about? - Yeah, are you a writer too? - Yes. - Yes. - Are you from the Midwest? - Yeah, do I have an accent? - Yeah, I can tell. - Yes you can. - Okay, I got a game. - Okay, can I sit somewhere more? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Oh, I'm excited to sit down. I slept for five hours last night. It was terrible. - That's five hours really bad. - You should sleep for eight and a half. Where do you want me to go? - Wherever you'd like. - Where you gonna sit, chef? - I'm gonna sit right there. - But before we do lifestyle questions, I want everyone is gonna go around the room. We're gonna do this, we're gonna do this a bunch. We're gonna go first, we're gonna start, we're gonna do New York, LA, and London, and everyone's gonna go around, and you have to give one of your favorite restaurants. - Oh, I have nothing to say. - This is great. I love this game. - In the places. - Okay, you go first. - You want me to go first? - Yeah, we're starting. - Okay, what city, first? - Start with, let's start with our hometown, LA. - Okay, LA. - Yeah. - Okay, I think my first one is actually gonna be a grocery store, just because it's so good that I think everyone needs to know about it. - Okay. - Sassone produce. It's right next to Jitlada and like all, it's in Taitown. It's like Middle Eastern produce, but you can also, they import every day, like you're getting like the most insane produce from around the world, like fingerlives at all times, like every, any, any-- - What's a fingerlive? - You like cut it open and it has like little pearls. - At all times. - And no, but it's something that's hard to get, like Yuzu, all times, like because it's different places in the world, it's a cool place. - Okay, I need to write that down. - I'm gonna, I'll make you a list. - I need a, I'll make you a list. - I'll make you a list. - Okay, okay, your restaurant. - Like what they have things like, you know, what are those, those amazing like fruits that you their brown and you open up tamarind? - Yeah, of course, of course. - Oh, I love that. - And they have amazing like fresh okra. - I love okra. - Okra's gonna slimey, but-- - I love the slime. - Okay, okay, okay, so restaurant. Just like, did you just be your favorite restaurant? - Yeah, right now, this is my favorite restaurant. It's called The Great Greek. - Okay. - It's in Studio City. - What about those old sushi, like the original cat, so yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, those are good. - Hang on, okay. - I'm like to talk to you guys about The Great Greek. - Okay, no, I'm sorry. - When I can't waste time on the Greek restaurant. - Why? - That's my favorite restaurant. - Okay, yeah, yeah. - When I talk about my favorite restaurant, I'm also talking about the vibe and like, really mostly, almost about the vibe that I feel and the way I feel when I eat there. It's not when I get take out from that I'm saying, I'm like when I eat there. Now, I don't like the fine dining experience that much. - Yeah, I don't like dining. - Live music. - So my favorite version of like going out to dinner is like what reminds me of childhood, which is suburban restaurant type of feel. And this place really carries itself like kind of your local Greek restaurant, feel it off here. And there's also always live music. There's a man playing. - The Greek, like, you know like the bass piece. - Do they break plates and stuff in there? - They do things that make it feel, things like that happen. - Okay. - Yeah, there's people dancing. - It is so. - What's yours? - Charming. - Okay, what's that place? And wait, hold on. It's over the hill. - What? - Like not to do, mother, no. - Are you talking about mother wolf? - Mother wolf. - Mother wolf. - Oh, I've never been there. - I like it. I like the vibe. - I like the decor. - Have you been there? - I have. - Uh-oh. - The face says it all. - No, I've been, I know I've been really well. It's great. - Okay, my favorite place to go, and it's kind of a guilty pleasure, is Luneja and-- - Oh, it's the best. My favorite, you've been with me. - Stark Leiden? - Uh, you know, I've never been at night. It's like a brunch thing. - Yeah, but that's the best part. - Yeah, I struggle with that. - Okay. I want to say, I'm just going to say a few, and you tell me, agree or disagree. - Okay. - We like the dim. We like it dark. - Town do I stir. - Agree, love, tan out of tan. - Safies. - I've never been. - Have you been in a Bavail? - Yes, delicious. - Okay. - Incredible. - Safies is even better than Bavail. - It's the same owner. - Okay, good to know. - Um, okay. - Is Bavail also known as Bavail? - Bavail, yeah, yeah. - Bavail. - I've been there. - I call it Bavail. - Jitlada. - Delicious. - Haven't been a spicy BBQ? - No. - I gotta take you. - Okay. - Um, I haven't been in Northern Thai food club. - Nope. - It's cool. They're all in the same area. - Okay. - I've ever had Lala Bella, the Ethiopian place. - No. - Okay, delicious. - You got your work cut out for you. - Seriously. - Leiden Kabab. - What? - Mini Kabab. - No. - Raffies? - Nope. - Oh my god, I got-- - How about a hot dog? - No, these are amazing. - Okay. - He's waiting to read this list. I need this whole list. - Oh, do you know what else is really good that I've been three times already? Max and Helen's. - Oh, Phil, Phil and Nancy's. - Yeah. - It's delicious. - Okay, I couldn't go 'cause I was in Monocero. - It's very good. - Okay, good. - What type of food is Max? - It's belly food, right? - Yeah, it's belly. - It's delicious. - Oh, yeah. - It's delicious. - It's really good. - It's really good. - Hello. - No, it's like the perfect tuna melt. Or they have like the perfect pastrami. They have the best waffle I've ever had. - Oh my god. - Is waffle not like a-- - You ever have a waffle in Belgium? - I haven't. - I have. - I have. - I loved it. And I went to like a total chain. Speaking of like chain, like whatever the place to go in Belgium to get your Belgium waffle, I did not go until I went to like first, you know, and I loved it. And I understood the difference. - Okay, great. - Do you like the food in New York? - Um, I do like the food in New York, but I mean, I think L.A. is a better food town. It's controversial to say-- - It's the best. - I think like in L.A., you get, there are so many, like the diversity of the kinds of food that you find in New York. I mean, in L.A., at the quality and deliciousness, I think, out shines in New York, just a little. - You ever eat fast food? Like-- - I love fast food. I know it's bad for you. I wish I didn't love it. If I grew up in a world-- - Tell her you're a diet. - Well, I don't want to do that. - Help, please. - If I grew up in a world where at the nice, fine dining restaurants, they'd like open the tray, and it was Taco Bell in that thing, I would believe that reality. That would make sense to me. (laughs) - This off to college season. Save on college, save me every day. Amazon has turned this whole room into a dorm room. - I know, it's a good-- and it reminds me of my good old days in my dorm room. How about you? - My dorm room was small. Are you drawing this? - Oh, yeah, I was. Oh, my college-- - Michigan State. - Yeah, I thought the S was for Michigan State, but it turns out everybody drew the S for different reasons-- - You got to remember the S? - Zoom in. - Wow. - You know what that S stands for? - Satisfying the Amazon customers. - Who gone to the off to college option online. - Yeah, I think it might have been, because look, I don't know the back of the day, when I went to college, you had to go to one store, then the next store, and just have this whole cobbled together, like not even a whole room. Now I can be strategic in college, which I'm not-- - And you can get it done coming. - Fine, shoot. - So remember, with Amazon's low off to college prices, just save on college, save you every day. - It's a white cloth summer, I love mango. You like peach, I'm sure I know, you like black cherry. - Okay, now let me just tell you what we're gonna be doing. - Picture us sliding on a boat. Maybe I'm on a jet ski. I could be on like a wakeboard or a pontoon boat. - Yeah. - Check, do you ever been on a jet ski? - I had a little like speed. - You ever gone tubing? - You ever gone wakeboarding? - I went to do one time. It was going so fast, it whipped around. I fell in the water, my bathing suit got sucked off my body. I had to return to short naked. - Really? - Yeah. - I love it. - This summer is a white cloth summer. We're gonna have fun. We're gonna grab a life by the cloth, but we're only allowed to say one word now. - Fine. - Will. - Happen. - Immediately. - When? - We. - Open. - White. - Cloth. - Puse during responsibly. Hard sounds to replace flavor. White class also works Chicago Illinois. Do you cook most of your meals every night because your kids aren't are your kids my kids all left so you it's just you and and brass. How does that feel? It's it's it's really hard. It's really hard. It's really sad. Oh really miss them. Yeah, it's just it's heartbreaking. I thought by now I would be used to it. How long has it been like eight years? No, it's been this is there's the second fall where they're all four gone because I've two and then I have two amazing stepkids. Yeah, and they're the girls are the same age and the boys are the same. So when the boys left like a year and you know, so go. It's hard. Are your boys you yours? So I have one I have one girl and one boy and then Brad has one girl and one boy. So I have two girls and two boys. That's so cool. What before they went to school? Was it like you would have like big like everybody would be at the home together? Yeah, and they all get along. They all get along and it's so fun. That's a dream. Were you nervous before blending families like when you oh my god, it was so hard. It was it was like the hardest thing I've ever done. How did you approach it? Did you like sit? It just didn't go well for a really long time. Oh, I ended up with the kids didn't do it well. It's not fairytale, it's not like that. Actually, it's probably pretty personal. It's okay. It's you know, I think it's so it's so necessary and I'm so glad that we all went through it, but it was like it was really really tough and I think there are there are these like endemic dynamics that exist and they're sort of like almost I feel like they're passed down like it's almost like epigenetic, you know, like these things about a stepmother and how fraught that relationship is and why and I understand why because you know, kids can feel like they're being sort of demoted and they're not, but they can feel like if there's a new parent that comes in and it can cause, you know, a lot of a lot of disturbance. So it was hard. It was really hard at the beginning. Did you do like family therapy? We never did family therapy altogether, but we, I don't know, it just like ended up I did a lot of work on myself and around like why is this so triggering and why are my feelings so hurt and why am I having like these non-adult reactions to a child, you know? Yeah, and they ended it just ended up teaching me so much and I'm so I really am so grateful that I traversed through all of that, but it was, it was rough, but now it's amazing. They're all best friends. They're just like close, there's, you know, they're siblings here. That's like the beauty of life. Didn't you like, aren't you? Don't you have a, it's like consciously, yeah, you know, I was going to say, was that you? Tell me about it. Tell me, tell me about consciously. It's like, it's like another, like, I would say like, yeah, defining things of like culture. Basically, so I was married to a guy named Chris and we lived in London and we decided we were going to get a divorce, we were going to separate and, you know, and we, we really sat down and thought like, is there a way that we could do this? Because this is like very me, but when I was getting divorced, I was like, how, how do I do this? So I talked to all my friends who came from a divorced household and I said, tell me what was the worst thing? Like, what do you feel you have scars from to this day? And they said, you know, it wasn't really so much the divorce because like, you're a kid and you, yes, of course, the idea of it is terrible, but you sort of get used to that quickly. They said the worst part was, like, my parents, you know, my daddy's to drop me off at the end of the driveway. Like, it was so tense at my birthday parties. You know, they never ate dinner in the same room until my college graduation and it caused me so much pain. So I, I was like, how could we not do that? Like, is there a way where you can sort of circumvent all of that awful stuff when no one is in the same room and get to the, like, graduation where you're all having dinner at the same table? So Chris and I had this therapist that was really brilliant and he sort of introduced us to the concept and, um, and we just like made a commitment to really put the kids first. And so what that meant was to stay a family, even though we weren't a couple. Yeah, where their times were, you were just like not, because I imagine if you're getting a divorce, I can't, there are like stressful things, relationship-wise, but then you just like were forced to just put on like a smile or was there like space to kind of talk to your kids about? You know what? I remember like one particular heart, like we moved to LA and we used to have brunch every Sunday, the four of us. And I remember one, it's like early on in the thing, and Chris and I were upset with each other about something. I can't even remember what it is. And I was like, this might go really off the rails. And then we like, it was getting tense and we like looked at each other and we went outside on the front porch and we're like, let's just not, let's just, you know, let's just not. Let's just like, and we just hugged and we're like, okay, we like fist-bombed and then we went to brunch. What year did you, what year did you guys divorce? We divorced, I think we separated in 2013, and then we divorced maybe in 2014 or 15 or something like that, maybe 15. I met your kids when they were like babies one time and like, how many kids did you have in 2010? Two. Okay, yeah, they were like babies. I met. Because, yeah, they were born in '04 and '06. I was like, I was like, in a weird world, I was like living at Jay-Z and Beyonce's house. And I just remember, you weren't there though. It was like, they were like there for some reason that I think Chris came and picked them up. They were like, I don't even know what was happening. I don't have the vagus memory of just like meeting them when they were like babies. I just thought of that. Just not be sure what happened? 100%. Yeah, 100%. And now they're like full. I know. Are you a strict parent? I wouldn't say I'm strict. I think I'm, I think I'm principled. Like honesty is really important. And, and like kids are going to do that stuff. Like they're just going to. So you can either pretend they're not and like be in denial. Or just get, you got to get with the program. Like they're going to do it. And I remember my dad said something to me once when I was like, when I was in my late 20s, I sort of appalled. I was like, I was having coffee in my dad and I was like, I'm sorry, I was like such a pain when I was a teenager because I was sneaking out. And I was, you know, hanging out the window smoking cigarettes and I was, you know, and I grew up in New York City and like, you know, I was like out at bars for in the morning all the things. And I was like, I'm really sorry. And he said, you know what? You were bad in exactly the ways you are supposed to be bad as a kid. He said, as a parent, you only ever worry if your kid is like outside the box. Right. And you were inside the box. So my kids were inside the box naughty. Like it was not. Did you have to have like a conversation where you're like, I can't believe I'm having this conversation? I love those conversations. Really? Why do you love those conversations? Because I think they're so, it's like where the best part of life happens, you know, where like because they're emerging as their real self and they're like presenting something to you and they're gaging like how you're going to take it and are you going to accept them fully and are you going to be their friend and ally? And I just love it. Was it hard for them having famous parents like do they or they just, I feel like they kind of did a good job of yeah. When does a kid, you know, Selena have been talking about like, how do we raise the kid? How do you do that? Like when does a kid know like, whoa, like what? Like as soon as they become like more sentient and they understand like, he doesn't know what that means. You know, you're like at a restaurant and someone comes up and they're like, sorry to bother you and the kids are like, you know, maybe they're three, maybe they're four, but they're like, they start to see like, why is this happening to my mom and not like Freddy's mom? And it's sort of a slow process. I mean, I think my kids have handled it really well. I have to say like, it's, it's an ugly world out there and like, you know, to be the child of a celebrity or two celebrities and then they both want to go into the arts and so, you know, which I'm totally supportive of. I think it's amazing. But you know, I think it's like, it's just other potholes, right? It's like every kid has something and they have this weird thing, you know? Check, tell her your life all during experience with the phone call, with when you were on the phone and just a David come in. You know, actually, my brain was going to a different childhood story during this. And so, I'll tell the story and then I'm curious. We can play the game of if I was your son and I was like 13 when this happened and you caught your son doing this. What would conversation be? Okay. And will you tell the other one? Sure. Sure. Uh, okay. So, I was a boy, suburban Philadelphia and I had a neighbor across the street who was like like a year younger than me, two years younger than me. You know, we were at the same bus stop. Didn't really have a friendship, didn't talk, never really communicated. But she would smoke cigarettes on her, on her, she had the top floor, her bedroom, and she would smoke cigarettes, and oftentimes she would smoke cigarettes in just a bra. And I, I had. - This is in your apartment building? - No, this isn't my house. So just across the street. - Oh, across the street. - Like the suburban street, I'm in a home. - And she's on a street. And she's like on the top floor, she's got like this kind of like, and then sometimes she would like sit on the roof and smoke. It's a very margo tent. - Yeah. - I gotta tell you, there was a brutal consistency with like every night she showed up and she would smoke. She wasn't always in a bra, but it was just like, and I gotta tell you, I gotta be honest with you, I gotta pair of binoculars and I look so forward. I never like masturbated or anything, but I was turned on by the experience and I was really. - You were a peeping Tom. - I wasn't peeping Tom, I guess. And I just found it exhilarating. And I, but I also felt shame. And so if you saw me do it once and then didn't say anything and then you realized you just kind of noticed I was doing it every night, would you say something? Am I wrong? What's going on? - Wait, so are you saying the girl notice that you did it every night? - No, the girl had no idea. I was a fly on the wall. - Okay. - Your parents knew you were doing it? - No, I didn't. - No one had found out. - This is a theoretical thing. - I don't think I've even told many people the story. Have I told you the story? - You told me the story. - Have I? (laughing) - I mean, I think that we are way too hard on ourselves in our children when sexuality is emerging. And for some reason, we as kids end up pairing our sexuality and shame. And it's really hurtful. And it's like, it's not good. So I don't think you did anything wrong. I think if the girl's on the roof and a bra smoking, like, you know. - Grab the binoculars and let's run. (laughing) - She might have known. - I just think that that's actually very sweet. And, you know, not at all like a creepy thing. Like, I think that's very, very natural. - Yeah. - And I really do think it's hard for parents to talk to their kids. It's like hard to navigate that water with like, I don't know what we would do with. - But this is like a story from the 1950s. I feel like back to the future, it's like cute. - Okay, you tell your thing. - Okay. - Her son probably knows the story because it was in your show. - I did put the show, this was a defining scene of my life that I made a defining scene of my TV show about my life. Basically, I was not the guy that got the girls, but I was really funny and I was everyone's best friend. And for whatever reason, one day I had, I was just hanging out with like, you know, I would be like best friends with like, the cool, pretty girls. And I was hanging out with two of them. And they just decided to let me feel their breath. Like, I had never felt any girls breath before. And now two girls were all kind of-- - Just out of the blue. - And this was like an isolated, incredible moment. - They were friends, right? They were my friends, but it was like, never did, I did not ever see this day coming. I thought maybe one of them would fall in love with me eventually, which he did for a month. But on this day, yeah, sure does. It does. I didn't take advantage of the month, but-- - Oh, what, which girl was I again? - All right, get back to the story. - Do you believe it? (beep) - Oh yeah, you're right, yeah. - My first love, believe it, please believe it. Don't let her know. - Keep it in him, keep it in him. - Here they were, two girls offering me their breaths. I felt them at the same time, we part ways. One thing that did happen in that moment, by the way, this is gonna be a lot of information. - Okay. - After that, they said, now can we feel you? And I was not ready for that. And I also had, I was born with penis issues. And I had surgery on my penis as a baby. And so I was like, so far from being ready for this. - Ask your son about the penis issues. He'll update you. - Okay, this is on the TV show. - Yes, yes, yes. - Yes, season one, episode three. - Okay, I'm gonna watch it one more time. - Episode one, do you get the penis story? - When my rap name is a little dicky, in part, because of this penis story. And this is the seminal moment of this penis story. It is, okay. So I say, no, thank you. But it wasn't that, didn't feel that weird. Anyways, I get home and I call my, one of my best friends, and I tell him everything that just happened. And he's like, he felt both of them up at the same time. And I'm like, yes, like, then they tried to, they said, do you want us to feel you? And then all of a sudden, I hear my mom say, David, hang the phone up right now. And then, and I love my mom so much. Which is that she said, hang the phone up right now, and come to the room. And I love my mom, and I guess I'll ask her, if anyone sees this, I already put it in my show. So mom, it's already been documented. Anyways, so then I go upstairs, and my parents kind of proceed to kind of lecture me about how I'm moving with the crowd. That's like too fast for me. And little did she know that, like, you know, I'm the last guy to every single base. And I found the whole thing so triggering that I literally broke down in tears. And I said, like, what does it even matter? Like, my dick's too fucked up to ever show a girl anyways. And then she was like, I had no idea that you were even thinking about this. And yeah, and there was just nothing. It was such a lope. I remember being like, I had the wherewithal to think, I can't believe I'm like crying in front of my parents about how my dick isn't functional. I guess it is. - I think so. - Yeah, I love my parents so much and my favorite people in the world. - That's so nice. - Yeah, I'm so lucky to be raised. - I talked to your mom about this, and you probably related to this where, when you have a boy and you change their diapers, you're so like a part of their life. And then she was like, one day, obviously, you grew up and she was like, your dad and her, just never talked about your penis again. - Yeah, I can name it. - 'Cause they didn't want to make you uncomfortable, so they just-- - His penis is insane. - What's wrong with it? - I don't know what's not insane. - What do you mean, insane in one way? - In the membrane. It basically, basically, okay, I'll give you a three-second little synopsis. He has a thing called hypospatius, okay? So if you look at a man's penis, you know how the hole's in the middle? - Yeah. - His hole is underneath. - But does it look-- - His dick is more raw? - I think so. - I don't know. - Are you satisfied? - Yes, I'm ready. - His dick is made of testicles, and he also, he also, if he doesn't shave his penis, he gets hair all the have till the very top of his-- - I feel that we should not be laughing at this. - What, no, it's his favorite thing in the world. - I did it. - I recognize that I'm fine. - His dick, I mean, I think it's fine. - His dick could make world peace. It's like-- - You own the insecurity. - It's the greatest penis I've ever seen in my entire life. - Wow. - He also-- - He also can pee out of, he has two pee holes. - That's to me is the most interesting detail. When I pee, you know, out of the normal hole, which obviously is on the kind of the underside of my dick, instead of the middle of the head. But then also there's like this one small hole that you can't even see like with your own two eyes, but it does like this in such a thin ray. Let's talk about CLR brands. - Kelsey, one of us could be-- - Well, I was just gonna ask you, Dave. - What? - Have you ever cleaned a bathroom? - A barber. I've picked up after myself. - But you never cleaned one. - From the ground up? - Yeah. - No. - And you? - Yes. - Well, let me get started. With CLR, we're gonna call CLR and rest from over. I can get on my hands and knees and sprawl. And I'm ready, and I think she would like that. - And it blasts Kelsey, I'm dissolves, lime, and zaps. All that rest. - You're talking science force and style and growth. - Yeah. - You know what, next time I'm in the bathroom, I'm gonna look around and I'm gonna see what areas I can spray. I'm not much of a cleaner. 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Oh, I thought you had said to me oh, honey, like. - No, I was-- - Oh, honey. (laughing) - eBay Live is live. Interactive shopping on the eBay app. Watch Live Shop Live. - I got three questions off the bat for you right now. I was looking at taking notes when I was in the bathroom earlier. And they're all-- - Are they all penis-related? - They're all sexual related. - Okay, let's hear it. - One. Tell me about when you started the whole like, Yoni craze thing like the steaming. What would tell me about this? - You know what, this is so crazy. So we put a listing, there was a day spot in Santa Monica. I forget the name of it. And we put a listing for this spot. It was great 'cause they have like a Himalayan salt room and they had a sauna. And this is a while ago, this is like in 2013. And it was an amazing like, you know, those like deep tissue Asian massages where it's like that, you know, pain, pleasure, threshold thing. And just in the listing, we said that this Korean spot and one of the things they offered was a Yoni steam, which we thought was so interesting. It's like, you sit on this thing and then they put herbs and then they steam your Yoni and apparently it makes sense to me. - You cleansing and it's-- - Yoni is a vagina. - Yeah, Yoni is a vagina. I don't know in what language. - How would you even know what it was at the thing? - Well, it was clear that it was like, how? because it says like the woman you know sits on a hollowed out seat and and we place under the Yoni like it was really clear. So we didn't even do it like we didn't even test it out. It was just in the listing and it blew up and it was like headlines all over the world. So then we were like we better go get a Yoni steam and see what this is all about. And it was fantastic. It was yeah. There's like ceremonies where they do like it was so nice. Like even out the pH balance or something. I think that's I don't I can't make claims. I don't know what it does, but all I know it feels great. It felt great. Okay. Now my next question that I'm 100% sure you are you you know what's going on. Okay. I can't wait. What? To hear it. Tell me I want to know about the vagina candle. Okay. Because obviously you knew what you were doing with that. This isn't like you stumble upon a thing and you're like whoa they got vagina candles. It's like you're the manufacturer. No she's the manufacturer. I am but so this is the true story of how this happened. So I have a very like a very body sense of humor and nobody really knows that side of me. I don't know why but I just I don't I you know it's like my closest circle like when I get to know you guys better and we're not being filmed. You'll know what I'm talking about. I think we know with the vagina candle. So I I was working on a perfume scent for Goop with this amazing nose named Douglas Little and I like things that smell kind of unusual like I like would these leathery like I like that kind of you know like our first perfume is called church like you know it's like insensi and I like sort of unusual smell. Your house smells great. We were like experimenting with like tomato leaf. This is like way before the tomato candle got you know and seaweed there were all these amazing like kind of earthy beautiful and so I said to him I go with this one like this this one smells like my vagina as a joke we were laughing. So he he's like this is brilliant this is so funny. So he thought I was serious and made a candle called this smells like my vagina and my team like bought the candle. I thought I was joking and anyway. So the truth is it doesn't smell like your vagina. Correct. It was just a joke. It wasn't a joke. I just I just smelled it and I said there's I mean all well I just smelled it. I said there's no way this smells like your vagina. It's like it's like such a crazy smell. I think people think that. I think people do. It definitely does not smell like my vagina. It it and you know what it became such a big thing that we actually stopped selling it because it was like distracting people from what we were doing. You know we had to pay so much money. I tried to get one for today and we got it and we got it like on the black market. And it's like that's crazy. I should just make them again. You should make them again. Will you give me $600 after this? Please. I'll give you Goop Kitchen voucher for $600. I don't want any voucher. I would take anything you want me to give. I'll give you each of a giant a candle and a and a and a Caesar wrap with dressing in it mixed in. You can make it the day. No you know why? Because when I like you know when you get feedback that someone's not happy with something like it's I will now be thinking about this and how to solve this problem for you. But maybe it was it look there's clearly a trade-off between sagging this of wrap. There's a reason that it's not being tossed. I'm sure something that is why that is why but wonder if there's certain wraps that just get less soggy but but the thing is our wraps are these grain-free wraps. You know so it's not like it's a really durable flower. And I that's probably it. It's better that you can dip it because sometimes when you get a wrap and it's so like maybe it's not that soggy maybe do another just one more maybe people thought it be soggy and they said this will be soggy if we toss it. I'm gonna I'm gonna make you your own. Okay I have another question and I'm so like how you say you're like Selena laughs at me. I couldn't be worse with like pop culture like she's always like how do you know like the most obscure thing in the world but you have no idea like who like some whatever some person is. I'm like you know everything. No everything. No I know stuff because of her. No I do I do everything before I still am. I do not know I do not she makes fun of me because I don't know who like I don't know who the actors are I don't know like what the people's names are I don't know like I feel you. Yeah I really don't like. I have emotional music. Yeah yeah music so I had like I had like one of the most embarrassing experiences on some like late night show. You didn't know the host? No I didn't know I didn't know Millie Bobby Brown and I was like who's Millie Bobby Brown and it was like and I felt so embarrassed that I reached out to her afterwards and I'm like I'm so sorry this wasn't like a diss I literally just didn't know. I never seen that show. I yeah I've never seen it. It's good. I hear it's great I gotta see it. I watch stuff way late. Okay but okay so I don't even know if I'm right and I really stupid and but I think I'm right. Okay when you were like way younger you dated Brad Pitt right. I did. You did okay I'm right now like not only dated and how old how old were you when you dated it. I was like 22 to 20 like four or five and is he an older man or he was the same age. He was older so he's I believe he was nine years older than me. Okay so now I have a question right now. Yeah so like in my head so everything's playing out like I thought it wouldn't like. Okay okay now like where you just like was it like oh my god this is like because you like grew up watching him on like movies and stuff right. I grew up I remember like yeah seeing like Thelma and Louise in the movie theater and then you're like that is the most handsome. Yeah and then you're just like sitting here one day and you're like yeah how's that insane. And does your Brad get annoyed if you tell the story. No I mean that my my new Brad your husband has been. You only date guy's name Brad so in case you mess up on the names it okay okay. No Brad Brad Falchuk knows he's the total love of my life. Yeah like he totally knows. He's so the package it's crazy. He is like my best friend he is the most brilliant, gorgeous. He's so hot. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. I see him without his shirt on. Yeah yeah I see him without his shirt on and I'm like I always say things like when I go home. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I say things I say things to my friends like because we work out like with him sometimes and I say things like oh my god if like if I could ever look like forget it like at his age like if I could ever look like him physically he has the perfect body of what like it like because it's not like he's so hot just type in Brad Falchuk shirtless. He's like the hottest Jewish guy in the ever made. And he made like every he made like every show. Okay you can both be hot. Okay so you're like he's hotter. No one's hotter than you. So I got cast in the movie seven. Did you see that? Oh yeah we were talking about that movie that head your head. Yeah. Yeah. We were talking about it today. I love that movie. Okay so you get cast in the movie with Brad. So I get cast in the movie with Brad and I met him on set and like we had like kind of a love at first sight thing. It was pretty awesome. It was really fun. And were you like do you go home and tell your parents like because he was so much older and also I don't know. I thought like friend like yeah but were you were you like oh he's like an older how he would know because he was so beautiful and he was I think he was 31 and I was 22 so this guy is Jewish. Yeah. Do you see him shirtless? Looks like he's like Moroccan. Yeah. Well his dad was Venezuela. You saw him shirtless right. I see that. He eats pizza like once a year. Yeah he works out constantly. Yeah he works out I mean he's 54. That's like yeah wow that's unbelievable. I know he's like really. Okay so you're 22. So I'm 22. You're 22. And then like is this the type of thing? Yeah there was like tons of pop rides. Did this thing like break out like was it like it broke out? It broke out. It was like the biggest thing wasn't it. Do you know I didn't even I didn't this is how this is how crazy this I didn't even know Selena's like thought I was like so dumb. Do you know I had no idea that Brad Pitt did or I think he was married to Jennifer Anderson. No idea. Didn't even know that was a thing. Yes. I only knew I swear on my life like my mother will die today. If it like didn't, didn't, didn't do it. Yeah yeah yeah. I did not know. I thought it was only Brad and Angelina. And then Selena's telling me no that was like the whole thing that when Angelina Brad got together it was like broke up like this. He must say he's movies. Okay so 20. Where are you going to meet somebody? Yeah. Were you before Jennifer then? Oh yeah yeah yeah. It's 22. It breaks it's like breaks open and like are you like are you are you we like in bit was this like your first public relationship? Yeah yeah because I it's sort of like and I had movies coming out so I was sort of getting famous on my own and I was famous this is girlfriend and it was like a very you know. Yeah was it like overwhelming at the beginning? It was overwhelming. I'm right for saying that he proposed didn't he? Yes we were engaged. We were engaged. We were engaged. Yeah I don't know. anything, like you could have so many other relationships that I didn't know about. All I knew is, and I just found out the Brad Pitt thing and you like, I think one of you guys, so who was the person who said, yeah, she said. - I heard it, I heard you on a podcast, which I knew that you guys had dated, but I did not, you should tell them the story 'cause if you care to talk about it, I feel like it's probably annoying to keep talking about this thing. - I don't know any of it, it's not annoying to me. - But you must have had to, you broke, 'cause you didn't get married, right? - We didn't get married. - So you had to break up the engagement. - We, it was-- - I'm just uncoupling. - Yeah, that was your first go at it. (laughing) I don't know, I was just young and, you know, we were working all over the different parts of the world and it just, I think it was just-- - Did it feel like a fantasy more than a reality? - No, I mean, that's a good question. - I like that question. - I do like that question. I mean, I think there was an aspect of it that was very heady at, you know, it was very young and he was this beautiful movie star. But he's a great guy and I love him to this day. He's a friend. - He didn't fight club yet? - No, that was after. - He wasn't my show. - Well, he loved working with it. He's like, to me, like-- - He's such a great guy, yeah. - When you guys broke up, did you feel, 'cause I feel like any public breakup is, I couldn't imagine, but also to be so young, to be engaged to a movie star, did you feel like you had to, like, let go of this, like, fantasy or like dream that you were like attaching to yourself or no, you were-- - I was like, I was so bummed out when we broke up and I think that the press aspect and all that makes it feel larger than life. - Yeah, yeah. - In a way, like, you have to carry this, like, faux, like, cultural, important piece and it's like this extra burden and this extra almost shame that, like, you know, didn't work out or whatever. So it was hard. - Was it hard? I was just thought about this. So, like, the press of when you and Chris broke up, was that hard on your children, like, all the publicity around it? At the time, were they so young that it didn't work? - They were pretty young and we, it's so funny. We went, we kind of went to this island in the Exumas, the four of us, when-- - Oh, with the pigs? - No, not with the pigs, but we went to this island. - No, there's a famous island. - Yeah, we swim with the pigs, right? - Yeah. - That's the only time I ever hear someone talk about Exumas. - It's a Bahamas, right? - It's a funny thing to have no idea what they're like. - I know what you're talking about. - The pigs. - You don't know about the pigs. - The point is we went, like, really far away, all four of us is a family and then we kind of, like, dropped the news and then we didn't come home for another week or so and they were, we were all, the four of us were all together, you know, and sleeping in separate beds. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Okay. - And then, but they were young and, you know, we did the best we could with it and, you know, famous such a strange thing, you know? And especially in the culture today with all the social media and the amplification, everything and the shod and Freud. And, you know, it's tough. It's, you know, I mean, listen, like, it's also incredible. Like, the best part is, and you will agree with me here, you can get a great dinner reservation, right? - That is true. - It's like, pretty great. But there is, you know, there's definitely some hard things that come with it, like, being, you know, so publicly criticized or, you know, you worry about your kids and their feelings, like, so, it was a tough time. - How have you, because I feel like you've been in the public for so long and you definitely have been, even, like, the candle. Like, I just feel like I remember hearing, like, you've always kind of had a lot of positive things within always negative things. How do you detach? - I mean, it takes, it takes a while, right? Because it's like, I think, when we're young, like, it's very hard not to be attached to your ego, and your ego is what feels the pain of being criticized. And, I think, as you go through, and, you know, I've also done a ton of therapy, and I've really tried to take it, like, I really do believe that we're always where we are meant to be. Even, like, on the heart, especially on the hardest days, especially on the, in the circumstances where you're like, why is this happening to me? And I really think that those are, like, the character-making moments. And, you know, for me, when I have felt really criticized, like, I went through a phase where I really hurt my feelings. Then I went through a phase where I was like, you know, if someone's saying something, I started to notice that if someone said something bad about me, and it wasn't true, or, like, that stopped hurting my feelings. I was like, whatever, this isn't even true. I never said that, or, like, I wasn't even there, or blah, blah, blah. But sometimes things would still hurt my feelings, and then I thought to myself, well, why does sometimes, it doesn't hurt, it doesn't hurt when it's not true, but it hurts when it's true, and I thought, oh, right, because it's true, meaning there's some aspect of this where I am, I am holding this judgment against myself. And that's why it hurts to be called out, right? Like, you know, I don't know, impatient, or I, you know, it's like, but if you're not already holding that judgment against yourself, it doesn't hurt your feelings. So then, I kind of tried to work on that. Well, like, damn, I need to forgive myself for holding this particular judgment against myself. And now I'm kind of in this phase where I'm like, and I'm not totally there yet, but I'm like, God, wouldn't it be so interesting to be able to just hold misperceptions and not react, like, truly not be triggered? Like, what would that be? Like, like, that kind of sort of mastery of, like, untouchable. - Not triggered at all. - You're not? - No. - Ever? - No. - Not true. - Not true. - By comments that people write? - Oh, well, yeah. - Yeah, general. - She, I don't think, are you aware of what we're talking about? - I think it's both. - I'm just talking about, like, when something negative. - Yeah. - It's written about, no, never. - You're never. - I mean, I'm not, I'm not very much anymore, but I definitely-- - No, yeah, really. - It's all, I think it's different for men and women, and she's also been, you've been in the public eyes since you were like-- - Yeah, for men and women, it's much different. - Yeah, it's different. And, you know, it's, it's, it's, we do live in the sexist. - Yeah, they criticize when, like, seeing like, all the stuff people say-- - I mean, you're married to a famous, one of the most famous, you know, like, it's a, it's a beating all the time. - Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. It's, it's, it's-- - It's like a mental olympic fight, man. - So you have to really detach from it. You have to really, like, turn inward and know your worth, know yourself, know the worth of your relationships, and try to just like-- - There's no such thing as doing, like, if you're a female and you're famous, there's no way to be right ever. Like, it's always, there's like, always, like, someone is always gonna say something. Like, if she does, that thing that's right, they're gonna be like, "No, this was wrong because of this." If she does it, the other thing that she's gonna say. - And, and I remember, one time she was giving advice to someone, and she was like, somebody tells me, I'm doing something wrong every day. She said, you know, she said, the person in the United States makes statements about me. She said, I can't, she said, if I spend, if I think about one thing, then I'm gonna think about everything. So I just have to just like do do-- - Yeah. - Like, she doesn't even have Instagram on her cell phone. Or it's crazy. - I don't know either. - But she's the most followed woman on Instagram, and she doesn't even have it on her cell phone. - That's so crazy. - I got to talk to you about Paramount Plus, and I'm excited to be because it's football season, and the NFL is on CBS. Subscribers get access to all national games on CBS, include it, and especially Thanksgiving, and playoff matchups. CBS has the best crew. We're talking, this is like my whole worth. I'd wake up, I'd put on CBS. - Great analysis of the sport. - Incredible. - Incredible. - I love football, and I love my team. I don't know if I can talk about it. I don't know if Paramount Plus wants me to talk about the Eagles, but we should, we're all talking about it. - We also like the Lions. - Not as much. - We do like them. - She might, Paramount Plus is the streaming home to the NFL on CBS all season long, see you Sunday. - E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles! - Can I tell you about a time I was scammed? - Yeah. - New York City, a man put headphones on my head. He said, "Do you like this?" I said, "Yeah." He said, "What's your name?" I said, "Dae." He started signing the CD "Chu Dae." I said, "What do you, uh, he said you like this?" - I mean, I paid him $10. - So I was a masculine in front of my ex-fraud friend. - Well, that's a, he was, he was kind of good. That's a good little technique he had. - Keeping your money safe from fraud, deserves to be a priority, and Cash App treats it that way. Cash App is a successful, faced idea or biometric authentication to access your account. It's like your money's protected by your own personal bodyguard. 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Like, I don't have to kind of fall for maybe all of the fame stuff that you probably did you were like younger, but now you have like a family and you have kids and you have a, you have a business. Like what do you, what's keeping you up at night? - I mean, so that kind of public stuff does not keep me up at night. What I, like I'm having like such a hard time hormonally right now and so I get like, I get hormone-duced anxiety and I'll get like these crazy thoughts. - Yeah. - Like where, and I've never had anxiety in my life. - Oh wow. - And this is like a new thing in the last year. - It is truly horrible. Like I struggle, you know- - How often did this come? - It comes like once a month and I have- - Wait, will you struggle if I miss the whole thing? - Anxiety. - Harmony too, but I, I never did. It's only hormonal. - I never believe anything, my mom says about anything. And when we were on the way here, she's upstairs. She said, 'cause you know I suffer of a lot from anxiety, she goes, you gotta talk to Gwen at the bout anxiety. I just recently read, she's suffering from anxiety. - Yeah. - And I go, "Mom, are you sure it's not an AI video or something because she always is wrong?" But it's true. - No, it's true. - It's true, don't come down yet, but it's true. - So you've experienced it now. - So I never had anxiety in my whole life. And now with hormone, like my hormonal stuff, I'm like, not every night, thank God, but some, I'm like, I'm like, overcome with anxiety. - Yeah, how do you comment down? - Not based on anything, like meditation, breathing exercises, but it's hard, it's like a lot of-- - Are you allowed to say, are you allowed to say, do you smoke weed? - You know, I don't smoke weed. - Do you eat it? - No. - It won't help with the anxiety. - Oh my God, it helps me so much with this. - No, I've never been a weed person. You know, I like, oh, deed on weed. - Yeah, yeah, oh, deed on weed. - It was just really not. - You truly, like you was like a, like I was hallucinating. - Yeah, oh, yeah. - And I'm way overdred and, and then I've tried it, obviously a few times since then, but like, it doesn't work for me at all. - You drink? - I used to drink. - You don't drink it? - I drink, like, I probably drink one drink a week. - What? - Because it racks my sleep. - Yeah, I'm noticing that. - You look, I notice sleep, you're talking about it. - I know, because-- - Yeah, I can't drink. I can't, the only thing I can drink is sake, a little bit, it doesn't really mess with it. But if I have, like, two drinks, I like, can't sleep. - I know. - Is it the sugar in the alcohol? - You know, I don't know, because actually, alcohol doesn't spike your blood sugar. So I can't figure this out, like, even wine, like, diabetics can drink wine, because it doesn't spike the blood sugar. So if it doesn't spike the blood sugar, I'm wondering why. - I think it sings, I think, because it's more for me, like, there's like a dope. Like, when I drink the depressing. - Yeah, yeah. - And then you have the, like, the shift in hormones, like, in your body, I feel like, is like, adjusting to the state it was before you kind of had the drug. - It's not worth it. - What's the one treatment thing that you would say is the biggest, as you get into your thirties? - Yeah. - Like, maintenancey, good. I don't care how much money it is, just, like, the best outcome. - I mean, I think, I really think it's multi-pronged. Like, I think it really is good nutrition, hydration, sleep, you know, trying not to eat too many processed foods, alcohol, stuff like that. Sugar, sugars, aging, alcohols, aging. And then, topically, you know, like, a good, like, clean, retinal serum is good. Like, we make a great peptide serum that's like, was in a medical journal, and it held, yeah, it's like called the youth boost peptide, and like, the before and afters are amazing, like, for fine lines and wrinkles. - When do you put it on? - Morning and night. - I'll be getting a headache. - I'm goopified right now. - I just, I just, I goop, I just, I'm goop tough last night. - I'm goop guy. - You have to come this thing that, like, it's like, how you know as a woman what is kind of bent, like, the stamp of approval. - No, I always look, I'm like, embarrass it sometimes, like, 'cause I'm like, the one who's always finding all this stuff, sometimes if I'm like, looking, I'm like, oh, I'm gonna be in Paris. Oh, I just saw a thing on goop where it says, like, good hotel to stay at. - I have one last question. - Okay. - You did a collab, I think it was, I don't know what it is. Caitlin has these plates. But like, every once in a while, I'll try to find, there was, like, goop plates. And they were, you mean, the, like, the one with the sheen wazari on it? - Yeah. - They're, like, the most beautiful place I've ever seen. - They have a dishwasher safe. - They're so, you, you mind sending her a few? - They're gone, they're gone. They were a collab that, you know, it was a femoral. - Well, you can buy them on eBay. - I tried. - You can't. - I tried to buy them on eBay. - I'm gonna reimburse you for the gig. - Well, thank you. I think it was 600. - It was not. - I'm gonna reimburse you. - It might have been 500. I'll let you know. - Okay. (laughing) - Okay. - Guys, that was so fun. (upbeat music) - Thank you, I called for sponsoring this episode.