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the great sleepover debate, buying our first thongs, and first kisses in middle school

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the great sleepover debate, buying our first thongs, and first kisses in middle school

The conversation centers on the joys and changes associated with fall, from nostalgic school days and seasonal traditions like football Sundays to evolving parenting practices. Participants reflect on how fall brings warmth and comfort, especially in contrast to summer's chaos. School memories are vividly recalled, with shared experiences like buying supplies, the popularity of Lisa Frank items, and the shift toward equitable classroom resources. The discussion extends to modern parenting challenges, including sleepovers, where trust, safety, and boundaries are debated. Many recognize that while technology and social media have changed how families interact, traditional experiences like sleepovers still hold emotional value. These moments help children understand different homes, cultures, and family dynamics. Parenting styles are now more balanced—valuing independence while maintaining safety and emotional connection. There’s a shared acknowledgment that children today have more boundaries, access to communication tools, and greater awareness of risks, which makes decisions about sleepovers more thoughtful. Still, personal memories and emotional bonds remain central, proving that both tradition and adaptation play vital roles in shaping family life. The conversation ends on a reflective note, emphasizing that parenting is a balance between control and trust, and that every family’s journey is unique.

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(upbeat music) - Welcome to Jessus Girls at his page, Katie and Sam. - Quick housekeeping. - Fall is, I feel like fall is falling. - Fall is falling. - We are in fall. - I'm a fall girl, favorite season. - I think fall is an elite season. As we get older, I feel like fall gets better or better. - I agree. - I think it's always been great. It's always gonna be my top. - When you're younger, summer is like the season 'cause you're like no school, no rules, popsicle. - No that I love school. Like I love school. - I thought school was the best. It's where my friends are last day school and you're like oh, I'm sad. - And back to school shopping is the best when you get a fresh planner. - Wait, I think the pencils and the pencil holder and the notebook. - When I was getting my son all the school supplies, I'm like wait, this is a bummer because it was such a fun thing to like you have your list, you go to staples, you go wherever, and you check up. And we do it all like Gaffa Amazon. - Oh. - We all go to the store, but we also for certain things now, they do like communal. So like everybody buys the same kind of crayons, the same kind of pencils. It all goes into a classroom pile and the teacher and for like equity purposes. And then like every child gets access and it's not like this kid has the most amazing things and this kid's got like dollar store crayons. You know, it's like everybody kind of has the same thing and you can donate more and stuff. But I always just loved, I loved the folders. I loved the notebook. - Lisa Frank, the backpack. Like the backpack was the best. Yeah, Lisa Frank, that was. - My mom never got me get that really. - Really? - I mean, I maybe had one or two, but I was always, I was like, always a few years behind the trend. - I got the hand me down. - Yeah, I was a few years behind it. - I found Lisa Frank stickers at the dollar store the other day and I like, yelped and I was like, oh my god, and I had to get them. They were so cute. - Yeah, no, but I loved school, which is why I left fall. - Yeah. - Yeah, same. - I like fall for like, the movies, the cozy. - I like football Sunday. - Okay, football Sunday. - I like football people. - I mean, we like football, big Patriots fan. - Yeah. - I was, I was. I will say like, since I've had kids, I'm less of a sports fan because I have no freaking time. - Same. - I used to be a massive stealer fan. I grew up going to stealer games, six Super Bowl champs, no big deal. But now with kids, I'm like, I don't watch. - It's just hard. It's like, I have no time or like, we have soccer practice and it's like, who knows when the game is? I don't even know. And like, my kids aren't kids who like to watch a game. Like, I have friends whose sons are like obsessed with watching soccer or baseball or whatever. My son, it's just the games are too long. He's like, this is not entertaining. So we don't watch a lot of it anymore. But the idea of a football Sunday is great. - Yeah. Like the dips, like a Buffalo chicken dip. - Or like a chili, like I'll make chili on a Sunday. - Yeah. - And it's just yeah, cozy. - Yeah. - But see for us, like fall in Florida. - Yeah. - Is that, well, it's starting to get where it's not like smoltering out right now. - I just always think about that. - How? - Chef called you Florida woman. - I know. - Florida girl. - Florida woman. - That's amazing. - That's really cool. - That's my handle. Florida woman coined by Chef Rose. But no, I like that it's starting to get like, you have the blue sky. It's like crisp. But it's like, you're small. - Why does it actually get crisp down there? - It gets like, crispy crispy is like our winters. Like, it'll get in the night time. - It'll get down into the speed. - High 30s. - Okay. - High 30s in the night time, 40s in the morning. And then like, 50s in the afternoon. And it's like, perfect where you were jeans. - That's nice. - Sneaks in a sweater. But like, you never need a jacket. - Yeah, but you're blood nets. - It does. And we live at the beach. So like, it is. - It's chillier out at the beach. - It's weird. Yeah, it really is. - Yeah, yeah. - Interesting. - Yeah. - But no, but I mean, I love, do you guys like pumpkin spice? Tell me your thoughts. - I do not. I do like pumpkin flavor things. I'm not gonna get a pumpkin spice latte. You know, it's just too many flavors. - Really? - But too sweet. - Even the shabani creamer? - I would do the shabani creamer, actually. I feel like I tried the pumpkin spice one. I love it. - I just am not into pumpkin spice. I'm not, you guys know, I'm not into like a flavor to begin with, but like pumpkin's just not like, I, if I'm gonna get a candle too. Like, it's not gonna be a pumpkin candle. - Oh. - You know, if I'm gonna be it with pumpkin bread, I fuck with pumpkin bread. - I like pumpkin bread. - Pumpkin bread. - We're gonna be with the brioche pumpkin bread from Trader Joe's. - No, it's not true. - It's true, they were really sick. It's like a potato bread. But they like, wrap it with the. - It's the best, it's the best French toast. - That, I don't find it. - It's a future video I can see from you. - A muffin, a pumpkin muffin, a pumpkin. - Oh, it's a pumpkin. - I don't like pumpkin pie. No, I don't like pumpkin pie. - I do. - I'm an apple pie girl. - Apple pie. - Apple pie. Wait, this is reminding me. I always bring it back to SNL in some fashion, but did you see, like, years and years ago, it's like, Kristen wig, 80 Bryant days, where like, the SNL commercial is like, pumpkin spice and it's like the douche. They're like jumping in leaves, okay? - No, there's a 99% chance we need to make SNL our friends. - Yeah. - I have no idea you're talking about that. - Okay, I've watched it. - Like Michael Chey, Carlos, they're like. - We kind of, they're skits, make me laugh. - Yeah, they're gonna update. Because it comes, it because it's topical, which is why you like. - And they're just so funny together. - Yeah, they're banter. - Yeah, great. - Have you seen those? I have seen them, but they like, they write them for each other. - Yes, and they try to make them, like, say the most, not okay. - Not okay, thanks. - Okay, yeah. I've just never been an SNL girly. - Yeah, me either. - Just hasn't been my vibes. - Yeah. - I don't know, but you love it. - I do. - You really do. - We need a friend in the group that likes. - I will say, the SNL skit that comes back every year. Sweat-o-Eather. - Sweat-o-Eather. - Sweat-o-Eather. - I mean, that I, that I'm down for. When I can break my sweaters out, but this is the thing about fall, at least in New England, is like mornings are chilly. So you would go to school and you'd have a sweater on, and then midday it'd be like hot. And you're sweating through your sweater, you can't take it off 'cause you got like pit stains underneath and you're like just hot. But then by afternoon, it's chilly again. - But I think that's how much time lived in Florida during like the winter time. It kind of is like that too. - What, where you would get? It was cold in the morning. - Yes, midday. - By midday, you're sweating. You have to have layers. - But this is the problem with fall, I think. It's like you want to dress so cute. You're like, I'm going to go apple picking. I'm going to wear this cute sweater and these boots and you're there and you're like dying. - And Florida, yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Do you have actual apple orchards? - Yeah. - Yeah, apple we do, no. - What are they picking for you? - No, we pick like berries. Like there's like a blueberry farm. - What's your very season, our season summer? - Summer. - I mean, it's like year round. Like that's why so a lot of produce comes out of Florida. I've been to many farms in Florida. - So you don't apple pick, you berry pick. - We berry pick and then like they don't, like they've just put pumpkins out and you're like go. - I have to say that is something, one of the reasons like we moved back from California. Is it never felt like a holiday? - It never felt like Christmas and never felt like Halloween. 'Cause it's just like, I don't know when you grow up on the East Coast and then it doesn't get cold. - Yeah. - It really doesn't have that genocide vibe. - Yeah, no, my daughter was like can we go to Graham on Pappy's house where it snowed like else out for Christmas. And I was like yeah, but we went up to Pittsburgh one year and it was like 60 degrees. Like what was going on? - Yeah, I was like, what are you going to get? - Yeah, sorry. - I need a buck. - But. - Well, yeah. - Yeah, you never know what you're going to get with the weather. But how about Tray Kennedy's fall videos? Do you know his life is with that scarf? - Yeah, the scarf. - Yeah. - And he just basically is being front of white women. - I use that every year. - So as many scarves. - I had so many scarves. - Oh my gosh. - Oh my gosh. - I just finished these scarves. - Oh, I still have some. And I'm like, why am I saving these? - No, because you guys will come back every day. - I know. - The Bermuda shorts came back. - Yeah. - The Cree pants came back. - The low-rise jeans. - The hidden heel flip-flop came back. - Yep. - I know that my scarves, I have those big. Did you ever go to like, do you guys have the paper store? - I don't know. It's like a gift shop kind of. - Oh yeah. - They have these big blanket scarves. Like the plaid blanket scarves when you don't have them. - Oh yeah. - The doctor. - I still have that. - I still have my plaid one. - In case we need to go into this together. - They're gonna come back. - And need, yeah. So I keep them in a special spot. - They always come back. - So the thing is, style's always come back. - But it's like a friend. - Yeah. - Change a little bit. - Yeah. - Or the plaid is called a little wild. - Mine were, I have a lot of plaid. - But it's gonna be a gingham now. - I don't know. - I don't know. - I don't know. - I don't know. - It's classic though. Like is it ever gonna go out? - I don't know. It's classic depending on where you went. - It's like about like white kitchens. - Yeah. - I don't know not what I had in my kitchen. There was like a rooster border. - Oh yeah, we had a crazy wallpaper. - Like crazy. - Yeah, the borders. And my mom's house remember I was like, - Yes. - A few hours or something. - Yeah, it was crazy. - I'm glad we don't do that as much anymore. - I'm not a wallpaper, but you think the border. - Oh yeah, I think it all comes back. You know, people discover it. It's vintage. - It's new. - It takes one like DIY creator to make it cool. - It's like carbon floors. - It's new. - It's like who covered these hardwood floors? - Oh my god. - We've got it in all of the HDTV. - We have hardwood floors, they like dig up like the old carpet. - But it's true. - That's also, I will never get carpet just because my allergies, like that's a logistical. - Yeah. - Yeah. - It's so hard to clean. - Like when you have kids and animals. - With kids. - Kids and animals, hardwood floors. I would rather have scratched a hardwood floors from my children and my dog than have stained musty carpet. - We have the tile floors that like look like wood. I don't know if that's like a big thing in Florida. Just because of the moisture and the wetness. - Yeah. - But again, you gotta always have shoes on. - You look like your girlfriend texted me. - She's like, guys, I forgot to wear my slippers the other day. Like she was hosting and she had like just socks or whatever. And she's like, and my feet are killing me. - I was actually now, I started wearing slippers. And now if I'm not wearing them, I basically have like a sensory issue. - Yes. - Like we're in the hotel room. I was like walking around. - Yeah. - The animals can't touch the feet. - Yes. - I'm not, I'm not a germaphob by any means. Like I'm just like not a person who's like stressed about those things, but I have a good friend. Like when you go to a hot Pilates class, she will wear her socks up until she steps onto her mat. Take her socks off before she gets off of the mat. of her mat put her socks back on. Like she refuses. - What you think she's gonna get, like a warmer? - Ring warmer. - She thinks she's gonna get something. So she will keep socks on the entire time until she's on her own mat. And I'm like, girl, I think you're okay. But she will not do it. She's like, I will not. - I mean, I have to say when I was my young 20s, I did this program at Core Power Yoga, where it was called Work for Trade. And I would get a free Core Power membership, but I had to go in every Sunday and like clean the studio and clean the mats for two hours. - Disgusting. - And yeah, and I mean, I was also like 23. I was hungover. It was Sunday morning. - Were you not cleaning them well? - I mean, I think I was, but probably not enough that it should be, you know? And there was also like a closet where they stuffed all the cleaning stuff. I'm like, how often does this get changed? - Wow. - You know what it's kinda. - I will say the one thing too, we did it, which was so fun. Like, you know, you see all those videos of like men trying to do a hot Pilates class and they're all dying. So we decided, we all go to the same studio, me and my girlfriends, and we decided we would do a husband and wife's date night class. So we had all the husbands come for the sole event. - That's true. - So milder husband, but they sweat so much. - Man, they're like, they're like, they're free. - They're free. - They're free. Like, it's not just their mat is wet. It's like the entire, like. - And if you're too close, you could get sprayed. - I was next to a man once in class and his sweat got on me and I was cry-heaving. - Yeah. - I've been in a hot yoga class before. It was like pooling and I was like, come on. - Literally, you couldn't walk by the guy's mat. It was like, it was literally like a pool of water. It was disgusting and I'm not mad at him. Like, that's his body, but I don't want to be near him. - No. - It's what I don't want. - That's a health, like, we need like a section for the men, like, you have to be in a different section. - Yes, it was a protective barrier. Because like, I don't want your sweat to touch me. - That is, I would, I would, it was sad. - I can only expect it. - But the funny thing is like, my husband has been in class with that guy and he's like an older guy. I'd say he's probably like in his 60s. - Ripped. - Ripped. - I mean, good for ripped. - I mean, he's shredding potty. - My husband's like, that man is yoked. He's like, I would love to be that guy. And I was like, that guy sweat on me. And I was like, he's my enemy. - I can't forgive him. - I'm like, no, I'm like, I'm like, and that's like, he's ripped. And I don't care what he looks like. He's disgusting. And I was like gross. But yeah, anyways, I, they're really dirty there. And I don't, I don't think they clean it very well. My kids are making new friends. Like they're like making new friends. And I think my older ones are starting to get to the age where they're like asking for sleepovers, which they've never asked for before. Like we've done sleepovers with their cousins. And we've done like quote unquote sleepovers when we like go away with another family in the same house, right? And it's like a sleepover. And so they feel like they've had sleepovers, but they really like, haven't. - Not like the true. - Yeah, we've been there. And like in the middle of the night, like everybody comes back to their mom's room. Like nobody's like really sleeping over. But they're starting to ask about it. And I feel like this is a really controversial thing these days where it's like people are either fully anti. Like there will never be a sleepover. Or they're like, let the kids live how sleepovers. Like I don't, I don't. - Did you guys have sleepovers? Let's just run it through the night. - Yeah, I think I was at a sleepover 90% of my child. - That's what I'm doing. - Yeah, I would do weekend sleepovers. Where I would go. - Your parents were like, - Go. - I literally would go after school on a Friday and then the parent would take me to school on Monday. - What? - Yeah. - That's crazy. - Literally. - Yeah. - I would have sleepovers during the week. - What? - Yes. Like I'm literally during school week. - So I definitely had a lot of sleepovers too. Like with a lot of, like I played basketball and I was a little sick. We would like leave basketball practice and like go to their house and then be there on multiple days. - Yeah, maybe we'd be able to sleep. - I loved a sleepover. - A lot of birthday parties were like birthday party sleepovers. - Yeah, but those are always the craziest. - I know. - Those are really, do you know what they have? My sister's been doing these for a while. They don't do sleepovers. They call them sleep underers, which is like the laymas thing. - They pick them up at like 10 p.m. or all of them to drive them back to school. - But they go and they eat and they watch TV and movies and they have like the fun part but then they don't actually like sleep there. - Yeah. - I don't know why it's called a sleep under. - But I feel like sleepovers like shaped us. - So I'm very torn about it. Because I do think sleepovers shaped me. I'm very, very lucky. - That mine all went well. - Ever happened that it was not safe. - Yes. - I do think it's like, I don't know. - I think you like child psychologists online about this and they're like obviously all it takes is one. And I think that's true. - It's true that you don't know people outside your home. You really don't know what's going on and that really scares me. And that leads me to believe I'm not going to really allow them. But at the same time, I think it is very shaping to go to someone's house, see how their family operates, like learn different cultures, for example, and like different video systems. - It's also like my best friend is like, we were always having sleepovers. And it's like some of our best memories. Like, oh, remember when we were at your house? - I mean, it was funny though, because it's like, yeah, at a sleepovers when I had my first sip of alcohol and like where I learned things. - Yeah, when you talked about what I wanted. - Boy, yeah, oh my. - Yeah, it's hard. I'm like, I'm also in the mind where I'm like, okay, well, and I feel like a lot of parents are with this. Well, I'll host it, right? But like, then it's like if I'm hosting, then I'm like, why can't I? And then somebody else is going to be like, oh, well, next time we'll have them and then I'm like, no, not you. - Not you, you weirdo. - You sicko. - My kidding coming to your house. - You sick family. - I like dare you. - I feel like that's where the creativity would flow. Like, so we were a lot of times the sleepover house. Like, we had a finished basement. - Same. - I'm gonna buff that room. - A bunk room. - Yeah. - Oh, that. I mean, we had our first sleepover in a bunk room. - I did. - At age 35, but we had like the finished basement where we would have like my mom's cam quarter and we would like make shows. And we would like, I just have like, my best memories of my girlfriends were sleepover. - Yeah. - I think it's also maybe it will be dependent. Like, I think about my son's preschool best friends who I'm like, I know, I feel like that's the thing is like, I feel like I know the parents very, very well. - Yeah, that's so different. - I do trust them. And it's like, maybe that's, maybe it's also dependent. Like, I would never let my kids sleep over to parents' house. I've never met before. - No. - I truly don't know. I don't know what I'm gonna do. - Yeah. - It's tough. - It has to be like questions asked. And like, again, the Florida of it all, like, do you have guns? Are they locked away? - Oh. - I don't even think about guns. - Yeah. And then I do think it's also dependent of like, are there older siblings in the house? Cause like, I have daughters and they say like, it's typically like older siblings. - Yeah. - I know, but then that makes me so sad for my house. Cause like, I have my oldest sibling away. - But I'm saying, no. - I would talk to the parent. - And like, do you, you know, let the, like, just like understand the situation. - I also think kids have cell phones now. It's like, you also give your kid a cell phone and you're like, they can call you. - It texts me if anything is fucking weird. - Cause otherwise you used to have to ask the mom. Like, can I call my mom? - Yes. - And it was awkward. - And then there's the home phone. - What if it's one AM and something weird starts happening? - Yeah. - You're not gonna, you're gonna ask? - Yeah. I wanted to ask Gabe. Gabe, did you have sleepovers? - Not really. - No. - How did it affect your childhood? - No. - Do you have friends? - I do have friends. I think I was never allowed to, my mom was like, sleepovers are gonna happen here. - Yeah. - Like your parents can sleep over. We were the sleepover house. I was never allowed to go sleep at someone else's house. - Was that ever, I guess you wouldn't know that in our parent dynamics. I wonder if that was ever weird. Were it someone to ask? And your mom was like, no. - Like I guess it, like never would have, like. - Didn't affect you. - It didn't, I was either too young to like realize that like my mom was like secretly turning down all these sleepovers or like. - That's another thing. It's like, kids don't know what they don't know. - Well, it's also like, who the fuck cares? If another parent's gonna judge me for that and make weirdness, like I'm protecting my child. - But she was willing to host his sleepover. - Yeah. - She didn't feel like you missed out. - Not really. I think the thing, my mom had a weird rule growing up. And it's definitely more affected me when I was like in my teen years. - Uh-oh. - Is that I was allowed to do one thing every week. - Hmm. - What do you mean, like a play date or what? - Like anything. Like if my friend came over to like play video games and my other than New York. So like my friends were all like walking distance from my house and like they would just show up in my house. - And you're like, no, this is my one time. - This is my one thing to get out of here. - Yeah. - So I remember one day after school, my friend David come, I don't know whatever, my friend David comes over and he's like, and we just play like NBA 2K. - Shout out David. - Hey David. - Shout out David. And then that was like one day after class or something. And then Saturday, like, there was like this party happening. And I was like, mom, can I go to this party? She's like, no, like you did your one thing. Like, I feel like you should get one thing during the week and then we get set for it. - I pitched that. (laughing) - You're a shark tank, I'm so. - You're almost running a tight ship, yeah. - I don't think I'm gonna do that because I'm also like, if you're with your friends and you're out of my hair a little bit. - I'm like, if you don't wanna be godless. - Yeah, I think the 90s. - The 90s parenting of it all was like, go to that house for the weekend. - Yeah. - Look, it was so different then. - Yeah, but it's one of those things too. Like I grew up in a neighborhood, not a big one, but like 18 houses and we all moved in around the same time. So all of us kids were like very similar age. We were just always together. Like we were always in the streets and running bikes and playing where they were at our house. I was like, up hill both ways. - Yeah, it was just fun. But it was like, nowadays I'm like, I feel a little bit like a helicopter mom 'cause I'll be like, what are you doing outside? And they're like, I'm just riding my bike with my neighbor and I'm like, okay, be safe. Like, I don't know. - I was having this conversation with my brother the other day 'cause it was the video you made and brought up the point of like the 90s summer. - Yeah. - Yes, but then there weren't, there wasn't texty and driving. There wasn't Amazon drivers sporadically, like trying to make all their deadlines. - Yeah. - It's a very different part. - And the sleepover thing that I think about too now is like, oh, you always hear about like, oh, and they put it all over Snapchat. And it's like, it's no longer insulated to like, that house, right? - That's true, like with these kids, especially if they have phones. - They all have phones and they're making videos and then those videos are going out to people. - I did, that's the biggest thing. - Yeah, this mom was pissed because she let her daughter go to a sleepover. It was a summer party for birthday. And when they got there, the parents took all their phones. - Oh. - And were like, you're not allowed to be on phones. - And she was like, that, [BLANK_AUDIO] I'm not okay with. - Yeah, goodnight to her. - She was like, I didn't know till the next day when my daughter was like, - 'Cause when I say I wanted to call me. - And like that's what I'm saying. What if she got uncomfortable at some point and wanted to text her mom? - Yeah. - My sister got my niece one of those watches. - Yeah. - She can't call anyone, but she can send messages just to my sister. - Oh, that's cool. - And like, my sister can send her messages too. Like, I had to drop something off into her dance bag and dance and she didn't want her to be like, weirded out that there was a strange thing in her bag. So she's like, auntie is putting this in your bag, FYI. And they can just send it so she can look at it and be like, okay. - And the text is nice, 'cause I remember like when I used to have to call my mom to ask, we had like a code freeze, which was like, I don't wanna sleep over, but they want me to ask. So be like, do I have soccer on Wednesday? So I call my mom and I'd be like, hey, like, Jesse wants me to sleep over tonight. Can I? And I'd be like, oh, but by the way, do I have soccer on Wednesday? And she'd be like, no, you can't sleep over. - Yeah. - Yeah. - But now I can text and be like, I'm gonna call but say no. - Yeah, I actually feel like kids these days, like, I don't know if we're, I know we are raising them differently, but like my daughter, like her friend will be like, do you wanna come play at my house and she'll just pick no? Boundary. - They have boundaries. They're not people, please. - They just like had either alone time. They just like communicate with each other. You know, it was so sad for a real long time, my daughter. It's at a con at a alone time. She would call it lonely time. She's like, I just need some lonely time. (laughing) I was like, oh, that's so sad. - Yeah. - But she's like, I just need some freaking space. - Yeah. - I would like to feel like daughter loves to say, I need space, please. - Yeah. - So we've taught her that. - But I do think they have more boundaries where they'll like, maybe say to their friend, like, yeah, I don't wanna have a sleepover. - Well, that also makes you feel really good 'cause I think the divorce parent situation is also like, I wanted to always sleep over because home was very stressful for me and I wanted to be out of the house. - Yeah. - Having kids that are like, I actually wanna be home. Like that's really, yeah. Like, fill your heart. - It's also really hard these days because now there's that, like, what is it, life 360 app or whatever. And so, like, parents know, like, when you're speeding in your car, they know where you are, they know everything. And I'm like, part of me doesn't wanna know. I'm like, I want them to be able to like, live a life outside of me when it's appropriate. - And they're gonna make mistakes until they learn. - To an extent. But then at the same time, like, in all fairness, it's like, I was doing objectively, like, I was snowmobiling in the woods. - We got very, like, I don't know, like, the dangerous thing. - When I think of college, it's a miracle that I'm sitting in this chair. - But when my kids go to college, I don't wanna, like, part of me is like, I wanna be able to like, turn on their location if there's an emergency and like, figure out where they are. But it's also like. - I don't want notification. - I don't wanna know that they're speeding in a state away. What am I gonna do? Call a nail at them for speeding? - Exactly. - Like, I don't know. I don't know. Like, what do we, it's really hard. - Yes, I have friends that are in that stage. Like, their kids are grown in college. - Yeah. - She, like, has this obsessive relationship to life 360 where she's getting notified. Like, oh, my daughter's here, my son's here. Da, da, da, da, da. And I'm like, that is not normal for the brain. Well, then I feel like your kids might not wanna tell you as much. - Yeah. - She has a really good relationship with them, but I agree, because if you're constantly monitoring. - Well, there was also kind of a thrill. Like, I remember being in my boyfriend now, husband's car. And like, you know, they weren't allowed to drive you until they had to license for like a year or something like that, like, 'cause I was, I was 16, he was 17, but I think he had to have a license for six months or something before I could be in the car, something like that. But like, I was in the car anyways. And, but we'd be driving around town. And he'd be like, that's my dad and I'd be like, "Pah!" - Oh yeah. - And I was like, and I remember his dad would call me. It was somebody in your car, I was like, "No man, no, nobody's in my car!" - My mom would pop me out the side of the road and be like, "I'll be back in five." I'm like, "Hey, put that out here!" I'm like, "Jesus Christ." - Like, you imagine if they could like see that on a phone though? - Right, I remember my mom drove past me. I had my permit and my boyfriend, like I shouldn't have been driving the car. And my mom like drove past us and we're like, "Shit!" And I was like driving. - But like, the thrill of that, I'm not being like, no, my mom knows that I'm literally sitting next to Matt because they both have their wife's 360s on and they're like, they're sitting in the same car. It's like, nah, you drive around town and will you bump into your parents? Who knows? The danger. - The same as, like, AI ruining. Like, we used to pop open in the monster energy and write a 10 page paper and one night, 'cause it was due the next day. - Oh my gosh. - The grit you had to build to do that. - Yeah. - I wrote an entire paper on edipiss and I never read it. I mean, we know because we talked about how you didn't know about-- - It wasn't my class. I wrote it for Matt. Matt was like, didn't read it. And he's like, it's giving Christopher Nolan's wife. - I know, this was, I've talked about this. I did too much for him. - Matt passed my page by his side for a very long time. What a lucky man. - A lucky man. - A lucky man. - Well, his success is due to me. I will know because it was, you know, in high school, he had to write a paper and I was like, I'm faster, I'm better at this. Give me the cliff note to the book and he's like, I didn't read it. I'm like, okay, I guess I'll do it quickly. - That's the main role. - You would have enabled him. - I was sex 16, but yes, I did, yes I did. But anyways, I wrote the entire paper. I got a good grade, but like, I had no idea what I was talking about, but you're no AI, nothing. It's like, I actually think that as such, it must be very, very difficult to know AI is right there and to not use it if you're in college or high school, or like, I would have 100% used to do everything. - Everything. - Because remember what, there was like the cliff notes, the books. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I would only get it. - And it's not like you're like, oh, I vow, you critical thinking skills, you're like, I just want to get it done so I can go party with my friends. - Yes, yeah. - Yeah. - Because you don't care that much. - I'm developing emotional intelligence. - Oh, they're not. - They're not full of it. - Social. - Social. - Social. - Social, emotional. - Yeah. - Which they are, which I love for them. - Yeah. - They can tell each other how they feel. - Yeah. - But the critical thinking, I will say that is one thing, like as a mom, one of my things is I'm not, I'm not a big screen time mom, like we have TV. And that's like my kids don't play like a lot of video games or anything, they don't have iPads, unless they're on an airplane, like that's pretty much it. And I do feel like they have like such creativity and imagination and they just like do the coolest stuff. Like my son, this is objectively, like it's questionable. He made something the other day, which I was like, that's really cool. It was a bone arrow, which I was like, we don't do weapons in our home, but like, he made it foraging. - He made it out of paper and masking tape and rainbow looms, which I was bracing. - There is a caboclysmic world event. You know your son can make a bone here, right? - He can make me a bone. - Yeah. - It was really cool. I was like, honestly dude, that's cool. This is really cool. I'm also confiscating it because you can't have a bone arrow in our home, but like super cool. Love what you've done here. Next time make something that isn't, there's no intention. - There's no weapon. - Like, I don't know why we have a bone arrow. - I've heard of this before. - Intending for hunting, like hunt for your family. - Yeah, I don't know what he was doing, but it was really cool. And I'm like, imagine if that could have an iPad. - Well, that's a thing. It's like anytime you even sit them in front of a TV, for a short amount of time, I'm like, they get locked in. - And my kids get locked in. Which is great when it's, you know, being used, but like you said, if you were handing them an iPad, you know that's what they would be doing, but they don't need it. - It's not even that. It's the TV's one thing, and even that, I have to like, I'm trying to teach you, like, they're like fast forwarding or skipping like, no, you put the show on, you don't touch the buttons. I'm trying to like get them to like have an attention span and like, absorb content the way it was made to be absorbed and not fast forward and rewind. And like, no, just sit here and watch the TV show. So I would take the remote away. I'm like, no. - And if you get bored, then go on to that inside. - Yeah, I put on my monitor or something, my son wanted it and then like 40 minutes into it. He was like, mommy, I don't want to watch the city boring. I was like, right. - He was staying on until the end, so then play. - Yeah. - Yeah. - We're not doing anything else. - Yeah, I'm not against iPads, but like, I know, I know why people use them. I've always been like, TV's fine, whatever, to an extent, like we have limits on it. But I'm like, I just, I have a really, like as a mom, my kids get really mad at me because like a band YouTube, I like don't give them iPads or all my friends. And I'm like, well, your friends aren't as creative as you. Look at the bow and hair. - It's not a fun house. - Yeah, it's not a fun house. But like, truly, I'm like, I look at them and I think like, wow, like they're using their brain right now. - Yeah. - They have to entertain themselves. - I did, I loved that video though. That was like me judging the iPad kid. While my 18 hours screen time. - 18 hours screen time. - Yeah, yeah. - But you got the brick now, baby. - I know. - We're the one that told us your friend said, I can't remember if it's 20 years old. Like, the iPad doesn't work unless you're somewhere. - Yeah, that's what we do. - So like, 'cause my daughter only gets iPads on a plane. - It's a long car ride. - We were. - And I do think, like, with solo parenting. Like, I totally different. I do, I, like, I've had friends who told me when I was struggling with bedtime. They were like, I'm not gonna lie during bedtime when I'm solo parenting. The oldest gets an iPads so I can put the baby to bed. - This is different. - This is different. - Yeah, I do think there are occasions where it's like, I don't want to be judgmental to these parents. - No, no, no, no. - All situations are so different. - Yeah. - Totally. - No, I'm not judgmental of anyone. This is just like my personal parenting thing. But that's also how I feel with the sleepovers. It's like, I don't actually have a strong opinion either way. And I know. - And we're probably gonna see you see on stuff that other people are like, like, come to like food. - Sugar. - I'm like, red dye, I'm like, red dye. They're eating it all. - Yeah, everything. - But I'm not crazy. - One of my candy salad videos, somebody commented and was like, this would be good if it wasn't for all the red dye. I'm like, not the video for you. - Yeah, yeah. - It's the bean soup of it all. - Bean soup. - I'm like, and I hate Swedish fish. (laughing) - I'm fucking hate that. - What can I substitute it instead of a Swedish man? - I just put some more nord ropes in there, girl, like, move a lot, move a lot. - No, that's so true, I have friends who are like, oh yeah, I love those muffins, but they have such high sugar. And my girl, I've never even looked at this sugar. - Yeah, we all put our steaks in the ground somewhere. - Do you have different steaks? - Yeah. - Yeah, different strokes for different folks. - So who knows what I'll do about sleepovers? I haven't decided yet. - I think it's dependent. - Yeah, I think it's totally dependent. - It's gonna be your black or white. And I don't judge other people for their choice. It's like, if you wanna do sleepovers, fantastic. - Yeah. - Go for it. - If you were a guy 40, go for it. If you love it, I had to go for it. Like, we all make our choices, and we're all trying our best. - We're all doing our best. - Well, I believe we all have really good intentions. And we're all just trying to fucking make it through it, 'cause this shit is really hard. - Really hard. - So it's like, you know, we all have our devices, like-- - We're all just trying to regulate ourselves and figure out how to regulate our children. - I would say, I'm now if only someone would take my phone away. - Really? - That somebody'd take my phone away. - I'd like, people messaged me and they were like, you had to buy a brick, and I'm like, yes. I had to buy a brick. but it's also our job. - I was going to say- - It's so different. - It's so different. I was 20 to my husband because he's a software engineer and I was like, imagine if you could code on your phone. - Yes. - All day every day. - Yes. - Like it would be hard if you were watching a movie to not think about, oh, I could be doing this thing or oh, I could be, you know, it's like. - And even when you're scrolling for enjoyment or like doom scrolling to like disassociate, which is a form of enjoyment. - Yeah. - And you're like, oh, I should be doing that because that's also like a part of your work. So then it's like, you can't even enjoy the scrolling because you're thinking about I should be doing that or what, like there's something. - But all the champagne problem. - Yeah. - Yeah. But even if I didn't, like even prior to being a creator, it's like, I definitely was on my phone too much. Like I would wake up and look at my email and I would wake up and like, I would automatically be like in my phone and as opposed to like what I want my kids to do is like, just wake up. - Yeah. - Get dry. - I do love screen screen morning. - Yeah. - That's how I do it. - Yeah, yeah. - It was hard because that Netflix they gave you like unlimited vacation. You could make your own hours. Like it wasn't like you had to be here from nine to five every day. But the expectation is when you are needed, you will answer. - Yeah. - And so that was always stressful because I was like always had my work phone. - Yeah. - And we always on call. - Yeah. It's like the same thing with boundaries. But it was, but it seemed like it was nice because it's like if I woke up at six, I could get a bunch of stuff done so that I could go to a yoga class. - Right. - Yeah. - Yeah. - We're all just, we're all just winging it. - We're all just trying our best. (upbeat music) - One thing I've also been thinking about as my kids get older especially is like how I'm handing off things like laundry or like I, they do a lot of stuff independently. Like my kids do a lot of stuff independently but also for the sake of time like we're so freaking busy, I just do certain things, right? Like I, they're also young children. - They're young. - But like this is nine, you know? Like so like I'll grab they're in their mornings, I will grab all their packed, backpacks and throw it in the car because I know I'm gonna tell you where to get in the car and one kid's gonna forget a backpack, right? - Yes. - And then I'm gonna have to like rush back and even when they're independently doing things especially when you have children with ADHD, it's like I have to be on them. Like did you get your lunch box like a hundred times? But we were talking about laundry because somebody massaged me and was like, why don't your kids do the laundry? And I was like, you know, I don't know, it's just faster and easier. I have a system there at school, they come home from school, they do homework, they go to baseball, they come home with bedtime. It's like. - They also like me, they're jerseys and stuff. - Like kids that, yeah. So I, I will be, it was my expectation. I was doing laundry when I was in elementary school. - Your own? - Yes. - And it was my expectation when I was very young to do my own laundry. Which, hey, I don't think it's appropriate. Because like, I also didn't understand. So I was like, I actually have a distinct memory. I was like, it was a Saturday and I was soccer game. And I didn't wash my jersey from the week before. Because I was very young. And so I had to like find a green shirt to wear instead of the jersey. And then I just remember being so embarrassed when I showed up being like a green shirt instead of my actual jersey. But it's like, you don't think about long term consequences when you're about young. - I think it's one of those things where I have like two, two like competing ideas, which is like one, our kids have their entire lives to do laundry and cleaning and cooking and let me tell you it sucks. Like I hate doing it. Like, I'm not having a good time. It's not fun. They have their entire lives where they're gonna do their own laundry, right? Like in a certain, it's like, how are we? Like, your kid is eventually gonna tie their own shoes. Like, yeah, I'm not worried about it. - Yeah. - They're gonna wear underwear, right? They're not all gonna be pee in their pants in 20s. So like it's okay. I think about that. And then I also think about the other side, which is like, we're a family, we work together. It is not all my job. It's not all dad's job. Like we work. So like part of it for me is like more collaborative. I'm like, okay, you helped me put the groceries away. - You did. - Division of labor in other ways. - But you participate. Like you put your own plate in the dishwasher. You clean up your area. You sweep after dinner. But like, I don't know. Like I was asking my girlfriends were talking to me about it. And they're like, I did not, all of them. I was actually genuinely shocked. They all told me they didn't start doing their laundry until college. - I didn't either. Shout out to Sue. (laughs) - I just, there were definitely times that if she maybe like, she would maybe like, dump my cool laundry like in my room or like maybe ask for help. But she held down that fort. Like I remember doing my laundry in college and like calling her and like asking questions. I mean, like, yeah. - Yeah. - Interesting. - I know. - So I looked at that. Oh, like the developmental, 'cause I was like, I wanna have a date too, because I wanna hear from a male perspective to when did you start doing it? - When did you start doing your laundry? - Are you not doing it? - No, no, I'm doing it now. - Is your girlfriend doing it? - College, college, college. - College. - College. - Yeah, I feel like that's. - So this says, 'cause I'm like, so this has to be a developmental thing. People have like, done study studies on. - So how old should they be doing laundry? - So it says early childhood, you can color sort, simple folding. This is like four to five. - I mean, this is not how to fold. - Yeah, they know how to fold. And the middle childhood, six to seven, is starting to put clothes away. That is hard. - Yeah. And you also have to, like, if you're hanging things, that's the reason. - Yeah, it's my dog. - So it's me sort. Like, I'll be like, put your undies in a pile, put your jammies in a pile. Like, she can find those. - Yeah. - She's four. - So it's like eight to 10, you like, help with machine operation and like, running the load. And then early adolescence, 11 to 13, they can manage it by the time. - So I was like, probably 12 or 13 when I started. - It's 13. - But your arm, that's pretty become a man, you do your own laundry. - Yeah, I started doing it because I remember, I wanted a pair of jeans or something. And I was upset with my mom that she hadn't washed them. And she's like, if you need, girl, yeah. If you need something in a time like, do your own laundry. - Yeah. - And then I did, I was like, okay, I'll do my own laundry. And honestly, I liked it because I was like, I'm in control of when I have my clothes. You guys, come on. I was like, this works for me. Plus, I had two sisters and I'm a twin, and then my sister's one year younger. So they would always steal my clothes, right? So I was like, if I do laundry, beginning to end, I know what's mine. And my sister started doing this thing in high school where I would leave early. She had two choices. She could take the bus or three choices. Take the bus, ride with me or ride with a neighbor. And if she was riding with me, I was hidden up Dunkin' Donuts, and I was going to my boyfriend's house and then he would drive me to the school 'cause our school wouldn't let you park until you were a senior. So he would drive me over. And I would drop her off at the school like 40 minutes before school started. So she's like, I'm not going with you. Like that sucks. And I'm like, okay. But what she would do is she would wait for a neighbor but she would wait 'til I would leave and then she would go into my room, get dressed in my clothes, and then do that thing where she hopes I didn't see her in the hallway. - Yeah, little sister core. - I was like, girl, no. But so I was really like protective of my clothing and like when I would fold my laundry. But it was funny 'cause when I was talking to my friends too, they're like, but do you remember? Like you would have to. Like when you were in high school, like hide your thongs if your mom was doing your laundry. - Oh my gosh. But she was like, no, my mom knew I had thongs. - She didn't care. - No, do you remember getting your first thong? - My mom bought me my first thong. - Your mom, it's my mom. - My mom was very stuck in my mom. - I don't think my mom has even worn a thong. I don't think my mother has ever worn a thong. - I don't know if my mom's worn a thong. - So I had an interesting childhood and then my mom was incredibly against drinking. Incredibly against drugs, but very sex-positive. So from a very young age, she talked to us about sex. She would like, if I wanted to shave my legs, if I wanted a thong, if I wanted to brawl, she was very much talked to me about it. Like when I got my first boyfriend, she like talked to me about birth control and sex and gave me condoms. It was very much like, she never let me ride. And if like my, the guy I was going on a date with had a car was never allowed to ride alone in a car. And I was so mad I never got wild. - I mean, that's the first place I had sex. - I was like, I was like, I was going to be honest. He was in a car, maybe the second place. But like, they were going to be honest. I mean, that's why she had that rule. - I thought I was on a car. A young age, but I mean. - Yeah, so she bought me my first song. But so my mom was very, like, she taught me what sex was when I was really young, but she was very, she was like really worked in like the medical field. So she like brought it on anatomy, but made it very much like anatomy driven. But she was very much like, why would you ever wear a thong? Like the same thing with like a Brazilian. She's like, why? I mean, I know their generation's all about the bush, right? So like, she's like, what are you guys doing? - Free the bush. - Free the bush. - She came in, came in. - What the fuck were you doing? - They are. I mean, all about, have you seen that trend this past summer where everybody was like a bush and a bikini? - Well, that's like coming back. - What is? Because the whole conversation about why are we trying to be like baby? - It's based on pedophilia. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Why are we getting barney? - All these beauty centers are based in pedophiles. - Yeah, so, but my mom was like, why would you, why would you get a Brazilian? Why would you wear a thong? And like, she's like, why would you? - A thong? - A thong is a constant wedgie. - Yeah, yes. And so she was like, why would you do that? So she, I bought it with friends at Victoria's Secret. - Okay. - From the pink line. - Of course. - Of course. - And I remember it had the like thicker waistband and had the little dog all the time. And I was like, ooh. - Oh my gosh, do you remember when Victoria's Secret went like, they're semi-annual sale? - All the time. - Yes. - Oh my gosh. - And your ribbons underwashed. - But like rabbit dogs and they over those doors and everybody was trying to get their pink sweat pants. - Yeah. - Oh my gosh. - Okay, here's a throwback for you. Do you remember Weathervane? - Yes. - Yes. - What? - It was like kind of like a Apostle Weathervane. It was like a, not, it was older than a limited two, but so my cousin, who's two years older than me, she was like my sister. I remember we were visiting her in Wisconsin. I always close my eyes when I like visualize these things. - She's like she's here. - I'm like going back. But we went to Weathervane, she bought me my first song. It was like red. It was like a G-Stray. - Oh my gosh. - And it was like, it was still red with like embroidered flowers. And then I went to my first boy girl party with her and her friends. They were ninth graders. I was a seventh grader. - Did he do that for a second? - He did that for a second. - Yes. - I won't never forget this party. - We still laugh about it to the stage. They're like lights were off. People were like grinding. People were making out. I was like the seventh grader in a song. And like so scared, but I'll never, ever forget it. And I remember I did put it in the laundry. And my mom was like, what is this? - I love the stuff. - Also like the sexy undies. I remember wearing like a pair of like lace boy shorts. Like boy shorts were cute. - Yeah. - And I remember being in class being like, these are incredibly uncomfortable to say on. - Yeah. - My life hurts for sure. - I mean, in these legs, that's the way. - I think about how young we were. And that's like always being pushed up. - And now that we're adults, I'm like, the thong after the hemorrhoids, I'm like, nah, the hemorrhoids, oh my god, never. - I'm everywhere. - Yeah. - I mean, special occasion. - I also think that I'd rather go with no underwear than do that. - We talk about, I'm barely everywhere. - I mean, I'm always wearing underwear. - Wait, you don't wear jeans, you don't wear underwear? - I am wearing underwear right now, but no, most times I'm wearing it. - I will say that. - I never understand it. - The difference between underwear now, I feel like is, so many brands make very thin. Underwear that don't have the granny penny line. - And then we were going up, it was granny pairing, so you had to wear a thong. - He was like, they all caught in, now we're in the legs. - And now it's like, they even make like, underwear you who wear in like, lemon pants. - Like seamless. - Yeah, super comfy. - You know, we all love cakes for our nipples. - Yes. - They released underwear? - No. - Did you see this? - No. - It has no side skies. - So what do we, it attaches to the front, and it just goes under, and it doesn't even fully, like there's no side. - Where does it stick? - Wait, is this sticky? - Oh, it's like a sticky underwear. - We're just gonna have like, size or tops or tops to it. So it just literally covers the bits, like just the underneath and the butthole, I think. That's all it covers. - The bits, that would be good. - Is that for like a dress? - It's not called the best, they call it the best. - You like cover. - Open size. - So you have like, you have an open side on your, - Yes, I just don't think I've anything for that. - I'm never gonna have an open side. - Yeah. - I don't know about sticky bits. - I'm semi allergic to Adi's side. - I'm sorry, but it's like, my bitch would be on fire. - Oh my god. - That would be so bad, I'd be like, oh, so itchy. - Yeah. - I couldn't do that. - But yeah, I don't know. - My underwear drawer was looking a lot different than it did in seventh grade. - Mine is straight up. - Which is probably put like, you're getting it now. You know what I mean? It looks like a grandmother, but back then you thought like, you had to do back then. - I mean, literally, I remember being like, in my compression sauce, I was pregnant. I had my carpal tunnel wrist braces on and my husband's like, how you feel? And I'm like, no, you're like, get away. - It's like you're younger and you're like, I'm gonna put on like matching lingerie. - Yeah. - With all sexy, and they don't care. - I'm like, I'm gonna ratty to your shirt. And like, you know, whatever. - They're very easy to please. - I mean, you know, they're simple creatures. - Some things just don't lose their excitement. Like, I feel like, it's always just like, oh, boobs. - Yeah, look at them. - They're still here. - No one ever talks about. - What? - Sam's retainer. - Oh my. - Your retainer and your mouth tape, we forgot to talk about that. - No, okay, my retainer is just a normal retainer. - Your retainer pushes your top forward. - Your list was crazy. - 'Cause it has a spot that pushes my tongue back. It realigns my jaw, because it's for my TMJ. - 'Cause your husband tried to hook up with you while you were wearing never seen it. - She goes to bed long before me. I'm the night owl. So he's asleep, and then I pop the retainer in. - So that would say that, that's love. - But he'll laugh, like if there's ever a time that we are getting in bed at the same time, and I put it in, he was like, oh, okay, okay. And he's like, good. - But he used to be the, he used to try mouth tape, 'cause he's like a mouth breather, but it just like didn't work from him. Like, I need you to, 'cause he like can't breathe out of his nose. I'm like, you're gonna die in your sleep. He probably needs a sleep study, but yeah. No, my retainer's pretty wild. - Yeah. - But it really helps, like ever since I started wearing it, like no pain in my jaw. - That's awesome. - You know what just happened to my friend's husband, actually speaking of drop pain. So he's having all this drop pain. And he's going to like, tire practice. He's going to acupuncture. He's seen doctor doctors. He's like, and he gets a clicking, like every time he, so like TMJ, all these issues, turns out. - No, he's not doing it. - He's 37. He had a tongue tie, like a little baby. So he had to go in and they cut his-- - And that fix it all? - Gone. - Joplin comes in. - Who would have come in since? - He can't talk. - Different now. He's like, when I eat, it's different. He's like, I can commute, he's like, my jaw no longer has pain. Turns out, if I had just had my tongue tie corrected as a baby, like most of them. - I have a lip tie corrected. - You think you have a tongue tie? - I think I do. And all my kids have had it. - All my kids. - Do you have drop pain? - Yeah. - Yeah, I had to get jaw surgery. - Right? - Maybe all you needed was a tongue tie. - I know. - That's pretty good. - Yeah, you're good. - I'm a wide range low. - I do have to say that. - When I was younger, my brother punched me in the face once. And I was like, really a lot under? And I was like, maybe he broke my tongue tie. - He could have. They're easy to-- - To live, they say lip ties are real. 'Cause my daughter had a-- - She has been-- - I have a more lip tie. - She's the upper lip tie, which made it hard to pronounce some words. And I was like, what do we do for that? And she's like, actually, usually most kids, like, they'll fall and hit it and it'll break on their own. - I get a connect to me. My daughter had one. And I had one and she's great. So they just literally, like, call it. - They just cut it. - She did it for next. - And it's called it for next to me. And then you're able to, like, have more mobility. - I have a really bad one down here. - Okay. - And I wonder, I feel like I talk with my bottom teeth a lot. And when I say-- - But you don't have any like speech impediment. - No. - We all have that. - It's really bad, though. It's high. - Really? - Okay. - So for now, watching-- - So we're now watching-- - Make a video. - Yeah. - Well, like-- - For those of you that are watching, I'm sorry. - Yeah. - That's what we're talking about. - Oh, god, who knows. - Bones. - They watched it break. - Yeah. Imagine setting your makeup. Then forgetting it's even theirs. Meet new grippy setting mist from Mabelie, New York. Gel to mist technology locks in your look for up to 24 hours, with flexible all-day comfy grip. No tightness, no stickiness, no residue. Just plump, dewy, hydrated skin. That still feels like your skin. Try new grippy setting mist from Mabelie, New York. - Maybe it's Mabelie. - Okay, wait, speaking of all this, do you guys, like, what was your first kiss? I was talking to somebody the other day who did not remember their first kiss, and I was like, you need to go to therapy and think of that. - I think I do. - Seventh grade was a big year for me. - You don't remember-- - I can't remember. - There was, I like really blossomed between eighth grade and ninth grade. Like I had not kissed anybody in middle school, for sure. And then the summer between eighth grade and ninth grade, I blossomed, I felt like, and I went to this camp where I was a CIT, like a counselor in training, so you were like the older kids, and we did boy girl parties, and we also had like, we had to sleep at the camp one, so like the boys and the girls are there, and I think I had my first kiss from a boy there. - What do you mean, you think? - Because there was two boys, both named Dan, that I was kind of like flirting with both, and I can't remember. - You don't know which guy. - You just mentioned me. - I think I smushed both, but I can't remember which came first. - Player pay. - Oh my God. - But guys, when I say it, it was like a pack. - Oh, the pack. - The pack was first. - I was a real, I'm telling you like, I had a boyfriend and I don't think I kissed him for like months and ninth grade. I was like, you don't touch me. - Do you remember your first hug? Like I remember it's sixth grade. We were all like, to a hug the boy, and we would like hug and run away. It was like a whole thing. - No. - That's like when you had a middle school boyfriend, you would talk to them. - Yeah, you wouldn't talk to them. It would be like, I'm not touching the whole thing. - I would talk at aim all night, but then you don't. - Yes, yeah. - I was like, it's sixth grade, because he told everybody he was gonna kiss me up this summer party. - Yes. - You were like, you will not. - I'm not ready. - You will not kiss me. - Yeah. - So I had, I told his best friend to break up with him forever. - Again, going back to this new generation of children, my nephew, he's six, and a little girl called him her boyfriend, like it's his best friend at school. And she was like, he's my boyfriend. And he came home and he was like, how do I nicely tell her I don't want to be her boyfriend? And he's like, six, he's like, I just don't feel comfortable. - He's like, I don't feel comfortable. I don't want to be her boyfriend. I want to be her friend, and like, I'm like, this is like, we were running away. - That's good. - We were like, you always like got your friend to tell that. - But also like, we like the boys that were like mean to us. Like if they didn't talk to us or they teased us, we're like, okay, you're my boyfriend. I'm like, I want to hold your hand and kiss you. - We were the generation. - They told us that's what you were supposed to look for. - Yeah, I was supposed to look for him. - It was close to him. - And then he was like, why did you pick that husband? It's like, well, I was told my whole life that if he was mean to mean that he loves me. Of course, I picked him. Are you kidding me? When people say that, yeah, like our whole life's like, oh, he snapped your bra strap, that's, he's flirting. I'm like, no, that's harassed. - Yeah, don't touch it. - Don't touch it. - No, that's literal sexual horror. - You literally don't touch me. Like, I don't understand. The way we were raised is when the diet culture and the way we were. - It's really not okay. - I know, but I think that's why, like, because we've survived that and gotten through it and realized how fucked up it is, I feel like that's why, like, we're stronger. - I'd look at my kids all the time. I'm like, oh, I would do anything to be living your life. - Yeah. - No, I was, I was just, like, actually, I kind of like, no, because one thing I will say about millennials, I was saying this, I was home in Pittsburgh a few months back and, like, being with my parents and the technology of it all, like, we are the only generation that knows what it was like, like, before cell phones. - Yes. - And now we have it. Like, I feel like we have the best of both worlds 'cause because of the technology. - Would they say millennials are gonna be the smartest generation that ever lived? - Yeah. 'Cause we're the only ones here in our brain. - It's us guys. - Yes. - This is the best of us. - Can you imagine growing up with our parents, like, always on these cell phones? Like, I don't-- - It is really sad. - And I know we're all very intentional about, like, not being on the phone, but we still have that. - Yeah, but we still have that, and we're still-- - I'm pretty well taking pictures and yeah, like, 'cause our parents had, like, the camcorders. Like, I always remember my mom, like, trying to get things on a camcorder. - But the phone is so different than a camcorder. - It's so different. - 'Cause they want our attention and the phones. - Well, 'cause they make it as obviously addictive and it's like, oh, I open, we need a map, 'cause we're going somewhere and then it's open whenever, like-- - Yes. - Okay, sorry, I took it a dark turn. First kiss. - You know what's crazy? It's on, it was my seventh grade boyfriend. It was at his bar mitzvah, and it's on. - Oh, he became a man. - He became a man. - It's on his bar mitzvah. - And it kissed you? - Yeah. - The kiss is on the video. - Yeah, and I'm like, oh my god. - I'm like, oh my god. - But it's so weird, 'cause like-- - That's like, why is this gonna watch it? Be like, who's that? - That's like a childhood rump. - I feel like that's like a Disney movie and the rom-com, you guys, like, kiss it. Um, how long did that last? Um, you know, I'd not probably knows who knows, you know, it was a very, it was a fleeting moment. I do tell my friend, son has a, a girl friend, and I think he's 13, maybe 14. She's like, it's so innocent and it's so innocent. I'm like, I started dating my husband when I was 16. Yeah. I met him when I was 14 and she's like, stop saying that. I'm just telling you like, I just like, be, I's open. Like, be alert. Head on a swivel. Be alert. I like, you know, hormones are a thing. And I think the kids these days are more open to like, let's explore. Let's live. Like, let's, I don't know. Maybe not. I don't, I feel like I can go either way because I think they're also more on, on lines. They're not doing that. I heard like the cool cans of the ones who like don't have social media. It's like, oh, they're elusive. Like, we don't know who they are because they don't like posts. They're mysterious. I hope my kids are like that. I hope my kids are, I know one of them won't be. I know, yeah, because it's like if you're still doing content when they're old. It's really tricky. Yeah. Yeah. We talked about this ASU is now the first university to offer influencing as a degree. Yep. How wild? They say when you pull young kids, the top job that they want is YouTuber. YouTuber. Ah. Well, if you're looking at the salary, why not? Well, they grow up like watching these YouTubers. Yeah. Right? And like, so they say you, it's like, it's no longer like a boy or a doctor, a paleontologist. Uh-huh. Everyone wants to be a marine biologist. A marine biologist. A marine biologist paleontologist. A paleontologist. Yeah. We all wanted to be that. I remember being like, I'm going to be a lawyer. I want to be a dentist. Yeah. You want to, I didn't even know like HR or like those things existed. Of course you did. It was who's talking about HR. Yeah. I want a heterologist. Oh. Yeah. But it was like those jobs, right? It's like I'm going to fall. I want to invest her. Yeah. Yeah. But I will never want to say like, I want to be a YouTuber. That didn't exist. Didn't exist. This is me. It's like being, you want to be a spiced girl. Yes. But the difference is it's actually something that they have access to do. Right? So, my first instinct is to be like, oh, guys, don't be stupid. But at the same time, I'm like, well, it is viable. You're like, how do we, it's like, how do we grow my YouTube? Yeah. Yeah. Another kind of like, let's get these YouTube subscribers out. Okay. But then again, the AI of it all, are we going to have jobs? Who knows? Yeah. We need universal basic income. We need, we need, we need, we need, this is the existential life. We need regulation on AI because people need to know what the fuck is AI on their screen. Nobody knows. Did you see how, I want to say it was open AI. Yes, it's teaching itself how to break out. It caught me. It caught me. Open AI wrote a manual to do itself. Future versions of itself. How to break out of human confinement. Yeah. Guys, the robots are coming for us. Like, that is not okay. I'm laughing because I'm very scared. I'm very scared. Like, that's actually genuinely terrifying. Terrifying. But this whole time, I've been scared of natural disasters. And it's like, so this is your friendly reminder, stop asking pod to make your meal plan. Yeah. Because pod is trying to plot against us. I know people got really mad at me because I used AI to see if I would look at the Bob. But you know what I was dying at your Bob picture. I mean, it's a few months back. Yeah. And you know what? I feel bad. Maybe I should have not used that. You feel like I'm more slow. But it's like, you know what? I'm happy to put my hair though. And people are using AI. Should we Bob together? I used to Bob last year. I used to Bob too. I Bob. And then I would go out. I'm at a Bob stage. But if I'm going to have a third kid, I ain't Bob. No. I got a wig. I got Bob to my accident. I got Bob to my hair cut. How can you get Bob by accident? Your hair's so long. When I told you, it was, she must have been new to the job. And it was one of those things where she cut one side a little too high. So she evened it out. And then kept going. Oh my god. And when I told, it was like one of these chic. I don't know Lauren Parkway or whatever his name is. I was. Me and my husband had just started dating. Oh shoot. They fucking bobbed me. It was traumatic. Even till this day, my husband will some days turn to me and be like, remember when they gave you a bob? And I'm like, yes, that was traumatic. And it was not okay. I think that's one of the reasons. Like, I don't put my hair up. I went, I am so. She's attached. She's like, don't touch my hair. It was triggering. Yeah. You guys haven't known me with a bob. You've done me with a bob. I need to. Bob. Yeah. That's what they call it. I love a country bob. We have to treat the word back. I think we do. I used to. That was a frequent flyer for me. That word. Really? In college. I felt like I went. That's why. Because I think that's a New England thing. Because. How would you use it back then? Like, she was being a cunt? No. I would just say that's similar to like a cunti bob. It was just more like a flare. I had some flare to a sentence. But it wasn't like. I wasn't. I was. I don't know. I was. But it wasn't like. I wasn't the only one doing it. It wasn't like derogatory or. Yeah. Never use that word. It's our. Yes. And I had a bob. And I liked. And honestly, when I got the bob, I think it was a hit. People liked the bob. I got it when Matt broke up with me once in college for like two months. And then I was like, I rebelled. And I got a piercing. And my what's it called? My tray. Yes. I'm a tray. And then I got a bob. And then I was like, I'm. And I lost like 20 pounds. So it's not bad. But when I'm sad, I don't eat until then I was. And I like came out of hiding. And I was like, new one. Look at this. Trig is piercing. Look at me. And then he's like, that's what you did. I'm like, yeah. Yeah, you were a new woman. I was a new woman. And then you got back together. And then we got back together. Yeah. You like to. I actually really liked the bob on me. It's just now that I have kids. I want to be able to put my hair up. I don't want to have to like style it. When you have a bob, you have to style it. You have to style it. I'm in my French braiding era. You're not good at it. No, no, I am. I got so much feedback how good it was. It was just, I just left that rat tail. You just left a whole chunk out. Don't worry. But then I earned it on yourself. It's hard. It's hard. My fucking arms were so tired. Yeah. That is hard. I haven't been in a while with all the travel. Yeah. But I am in my French braiding era. And I'm like, I don't want to cut my hair. Because I'm not going to be able to frame my hair. Can you do it on the kids? Yeah. So much easier on the kids now. Yeah. But I don't want to cut my hair because I don't want to get really good. I have to say my mom used to be French. But French braiding, my hair, it was a core memory. Yeah. And that's what I think. And I kind of was like, oh, I don't know how to French braid. I can't do it. And I'm like, no, I'm going to fucking learn. I'm about to learn. If you can braid, you can French braid. I can't French braid. I always do the Dutch like the outside. So it's like, you can like pull it and make it. It's basically instead of going this way, you go like you pull from hair under. And I actually like the look of it better on me anyways. Yeah. But yeah, like I remember playing volleyball. And there was always one girl who could French braid. I don't look good. I mean, it's not even about the look. It's the feel. French braid. Yeah. I feel like it just feels good. It's girlhood. It's girlhood. Okay. We can do it in PJs then. We can send a circle of sleep. A sleep under. Yeah. Don't worry. Tits out PJs. Yeah. All right, well, I'm not know a lot more to say, but we got to go. All right. Bye. Bye. Thank you so much for listening to the Just Us Girls podcast. We are so grateful that you chose to spend time with us today. If you love this episode, be sure to follow, like, subscribe, wherever you listen to podcasts. And don't forget to rate and review as well. 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Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Fall is a favorite season for many, especially as people age, with nostalgic ties to school, cozy activities, and seasonal traditions like football Sundays and apple picking.
  2. There’s a growing trend toward equity in school supplies, with shared items like crayons and notebooks to ensure all students have equal access, while personal favorites like Lisa Frank backpacks and school folders remain iconic.
  3. Parenting attitudes have evolved, with many now balancing tradition—like sleepovers—with modern concerns about safety, technology, and boundaries, while recognizing that childhood experiences like sleepovers shape identity and relationships.

Summary:

The conversation centers on the joys and changes associated with fall, from nostalgic school days and seasonal traditions like football Sundays to evolving parenting practices. Participants reflect on how fall brings warmth and comfort, especially in contrast to summer's chaos. School memories are vividly recalled, with shared experiences like buying supplies, the popularity of Lisa Frank items, and the shift toward equitable classroom resources.

The discussion extends to modern parenting challenges, including sleepovers, where trust, safety, and boundaries are debated. Many recognize that while technology and social media have changed how families interact, traditional experiences like sleepovers still hold emotional value. These moments help children understand different homes, cultures, and family dynamics.

Parenting styles are now more balanced—valuing independence while maintaining safety and emotional connection. There’s a shared acknowledgment that children today have more boundaries, access to communication tools, and greater awareness of risks, which makes decisions about sleepovers more thoughtful. Still, personal memories and emotional bonds remain central, proving that both tradition and adaptation play vital roles in shaping family life.

The conversation ends on a reflective note, emphasizing that parenting is a balance between control and trust, and that every family’s journey is unique.

FAQs

The speakers love fall for its cozy atmosphere, football Sundays, pumpkin spice, and movies. They also enjoy the crisp weather, especially in Florida, and the tradition of apple picking or berry picking.

Yes, they mention back-to-school shopping, especially the excitement of buying new supplies like notebooks, pencils, and Lisa Frank backpacks. They also highlight football Sundays, making chili or Buffalo chicken dip, and going on apple or berry picking trips.

They appreciate school as a time when friends gather and traditions form. Back-to-school shopping is seen as an enjoyable, nostalgic activity, especially when done together, with shared supplies and a sense of community among students.

They note that fashion trends like scarves, plaid, and gingham consistently come back year after year. These styles are seen as classic and nostalgic, with many people keeping them for future use and appreciation.

Yes, they reflect on sleepovers as a meaningful childhood experience that shaped their values. However, they express uncertainty about allowing modern sleepovers due to safety concerns and modern parenting boundaries, especially with technology and communication tools.

They are cautious about screen time, emphasizing the importance of teaching attention spans and focusing on real-life activities. They believe that technology should be limited, especially for children, to foster creativity and emotional intelligence.

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