The Gary Brecka interview | EP 143

And I knew the Lord's Prayer because I had to say it every time. [LAUGHTER] That one I had down. Oh, praise God. It's so divine. This is why I say it all the time. The more I study human physiology, the more I believe in God. I don't know. I'm so emotional, dude. I apologize. You father me a lot. Yeah, very well. Oh, my God. It's everything to me. It's my hero. There's a doctor named Dr. Mike. Yeah. How do you feel about his perspective on things? So I'm not a big fan of his. Dude, I can tell you right now, I would bet my entire career. I'm going to say it right on the podcast, and we're going to do this test. Can you come back and see if I'm right? I'm just paying. I don't know why you're getting a lot of money. I'm only going the way of my sister's got a way. I'm going to correct on my own. My wife would have to take advantage of that. I can only pay for my own own damn way. Gary, I'm so excited about this episode. But I would like to introduce you to my audience. Guys, Gary Brecker is known for just taking a broken body and helping find its way back home to regulate and run in a way that I've watched your clients change in my eyes. And you have some drinks that I want to jump in with. Because you were like, you really said about this drink. And you were telling me that John Jones is like, was able to fight and not able to fight in-- No, no, he was, he was, he was just in a lot of pain before his last fight, you know, and his, I mean, he had been paying every day for 15 years. But no, we, before his last fight, this was November, 2024, you know, he, he, he told me he was just like, man, everything hurts now. But working up every day of my life, you know, for the last 15 years, just in a lot of pain. And he's so mentally strong, you know, he would take the mornings to get his motor going. And then he would go train. But he had dropped from six days a week to five days a week, you know, in his camp to allow his body to recover. So I started bathing him in hydrogen gas. And when he started bathing in hydrogen gas, all that, all that joint pain went away. I'm never forget the text message I got from him. I think I still have it on my phone. He was like, wow, I just woke up this morning. You know, I'm not in any pain. Man, I'm adding the six day back to my training routine. My coaches are noticing. And so it was just a way of, of helping him handle that, that, that joint pain in those areas of the body that don't get a lot of circulation, like ligaments, tendons, joints, cartilage, where a muscle becomes a tendon and inserts into the bone. Most athletes are not actually over trained. They're under recovered. And the limits on athletic performance are no longer strengthening conditioning. It's recovery. I mean, strengthening conditioning has reached the point of excellence now. Like, you know, great strengthening conditioning coaches know what they're doing to the point where they know how to dial in hand-eye coordination, speed, timing, agility, strength, but there's not a new whole new brand new undiscovered frontier in strength training. Right. Right. Right. It's, in my opinion, it's sort of hits ceiling. And now we got to focus on recovery, like the parts of the body that are normally ignored. Right. And those are your joints, your ligaments, your tendons, those areas that don't get a lot of blood flow that recover slowly behind everything else. I mean, if you look at any professional sport and you look at the number of non-contact injuries. So, take the NFL, for example, non-contact injuries would be like running back, being whistled into the game and blowing the Achilles heel while he's running into the game. Or a receiver, you know, cutting a pattern running down the field and without being contacted, blows an ACL. Those are the kinds of injuries you can't really tolerate or don't want to tolerate on a professional sports team. You know, the 49ers, for example, they lead the league at non-contact injuries for the last 10 years. - Really? - Every year. And if you look at where they're training, they train right next to a big power station. Stadium is here, training facilities here, and the biggest power station is right here. - Oh, it's so interesting. - So, they're training in this massive EMF field. And not once for the last 10 years, they not lead the league in these kinds of injuries. And they're serious. I mean, they're Achilles, they're MCLs, ACLs, PCLs. They're ligaments and joint stabilizers that should not be tearing without trauma. - So are you saying that it's the free radicals that they're getting from the plant that's harming the target? - It's the disruption. In that case, you know, if I was to guess, I would say it is the strength of that EMF field is so disruptive. You know, our cells communicate through electronic channels. So if you look at a cell, it has this sort of two layer wall called phospholivide by layer. And things move in and out of that cell. Waste the leaves, nutrients come in, and they pass through these little channels, these ion channels, and these are little small electrical charges. They're very sensitive to these EMF fields. And we're only now starting to really breach the area of EMFs and what they can do in the body. But we're one giant electrical charge. I mean, the body has a charge. This is why grounding is so good. People poop who grounding because it's free and you can take your shoes off and touch the surface of the earth, but the earth has a low-gouse current. And when you touch the earth with bare feet, more bare skin, you discharge into the earth. You can actually physically see this in your blood. You can do what's called a dark field test. And you can actually see that the surface of your cells repolarize. And because when two cells are hanging out with each other and fluid and they have the same charge, like two North Poles of a Magnet, they can't touch. When they get opposite charges, they attract. And when they attract, they stick together. And when they touch, you lose surface area. So now that part of the cell can't exchange with its outside environment. It can't eliminate waste, repair, detoxify, regenerate. And so if you can keep cells separated, if you can keep the polarity on the surface of the cell, the same, the cell is healthier because it has a lot more surface area to exchange with its environment. And this is why simple practices like grounding, which will cost you nothing, you can take your shoes off and do it right there, are so profound. They help you adjust the time zones. They help repolarize your cellular surfaces. They help cells eliminate waste, repair, detoxify, regenerate. I mean, a lot of these things, you know, we talk about longevity, anti-aging. A lot of the good science is just getting us back to the basics. You know, it's not like the super fancy equipment. You know, I have a major biohacking problem, so I've like red light therapy beds, hyperbarics. But when you really talk about longevity, God gave us everything that we need to thrive. You know, it's just whether or not we access it. - Today's episode is sponsored by Ait Sleep. Guys, I don't know about you, but sleeping is a huge deal, man. Recovery is a huge thing, and I'm telling you, if you're getting a bad night's sleep, you gotta fix this, bro, because there's no workout, there's no eating, there's no drinking, that could solve a good night's sleep. And I got something here that's actually gonna help you, for sure, add one hour of better rest. The pod five is gonna be definitely something that you need. It helps regulate the sleep when it comes to temperature, elevation, if somebody's snoring, heat, maybe somebody's cool. 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So if doctors tell me something, but the gospel tells me something, it's like I listen to the good doctor first. Now I believe that, my mom is to say this, God gave you a brain, use it, right? So I believe that science and medication were made by people that were given wisdom from God to create medicine to help people. I agree with that. But then I see a study that Tony Robbins was talking about, and it's called the placebo one, where he takes five people into a one room, gives them poison, but tells them it's medicine, and then does the same thing opposite to the other ones. The ones that said that they got medicine, but actually got poisoned, became healthier. And the ones who said that they got medicine, but it was actually poisoned. You got what I'm saying? - So a man think of this, he shall become. - Okay. So my brain stayed away from taking supplements. My brain stayed away from checking my blood or checking my problems or checking everything, because I don't want to see a problem and then hyper focus on it. And then I also don't want to hyper focus on trying to make sure I get all of these things, 'cause I believe pharmacy could be a good thing, but also I believe that it could be a bad thing. The way that I see life right now, I feel like they poison us with the food in the water and the bread, and then they give us the medicine. So in my brain, I'm like, how do I follow Christ in this type of world, where I'm like, okay, well, I do indulge here, but then now I'm telling myself I don't want the medication. So at the past five years, I was smoking marijuana, and I just gained a lot of weight. I was really tired. And my life changed when I went to run, in LA and I just for some reason I was really run down and I was like you know what I'm gonna go try an ad plus where I get it in a drip and Man placebo or not dude No, any of these not do in a drip is not placebo and by the way I guess they did a front load or yeah, and yeah very expensive yes But so at running and I stopped four times throughout sections. I do a little stuff I didn't stop one time my dog got tired and I picked them up and put them around my neck And I finished it and that was the first time in my life I turned to my wife and I said oh my god. I'm broken Like I finally found out what my body was meant to feel like and dude now when I'm like Not on it or like when I'm not taking care of myself I understand that it's no longer just something I'm thinking about I honestly have Hurt in my body and so what I'm trying to do is walk away from a beautiful conversation with you to to change my mind on things and also get me on a good Path row or I believe it's called row row nutrition. I got it. I've been on it for three weeks now Mm-hmm, and I want to just talk about this yeah, and why is this helping Americans and and what is it that? The youth is dealing with that my mom and dad didn't deal with because my dad's testosterone is like an ox Yeah, and I walked into the doctor's office and I asked them hey, should I test my testosterone and they asked me a question This is a little personal, but they asked me like hey, do you have a hard time getting it up? Mm-hmm, and I said absolutely not I actually very confident that probably yeah, and so they were like no you don't need to get a test Is that true? Yeah, so here's here's how I would approach that You know, it's really fascinating about the the science of longevity anti-aging bio optimization Whatever you want to call it right this whole longevity interest ever there's there's there's a Grounds well of interest in wellness and longevity If I was to sort of characterize this industry I would say that it's starting to come full circle meaning we are getting back to the basics Right the best longevity science is just getting us back to the basics You you made a perfect point of the food leading to the drugs And this is why I think we have a food and drug administration because the food leads to the drugs And um because of the the issues that the food causes and by getting back to the basics I'm seeing if we were to look at all of the big data right blues-owned studies big data studies You would see that there are three foundational non-negotiables sleep Drawing your attention to your sleep Eating a whole food diet a diet that is absent processed foods and Mobility making mobility non-negotiable so exercise needs to be non-negotiable And I think there's not a longevity sciences MD PhD researcher in the world that wouldn't agree with that right that really understands the science of human physiology those are the basics and When you start to layer on that what else can I do to extend my life to feel better to perform better to look better to sleep better That's where you start to get into this whole biohacking realm and the vast majority of people Enter that world and they start supplementing for the sake of supplementing They don't supplement for deficiency So for example if I was to go out if if you were to have a leaf rotting in any of these trees out here This this palm tree or any of these trees out here and you were to call a true arborist A true botanist out to look at that plant. They wouldn't even touch the leaf Right if the leaf was rotting they would court test the soil and they would say you know what? There's no nitrogen in the soil and then they would add nitrogen to the soil and the leaf would heal human beings are no different When you deprive the human body of certain raw material You get the expression of disease. Let me explain what I mean So when you have that deficiency and you are supplementing for the sake of supplementing But you don't know what your body is deficient in you're just guessing It's just like you could have gone out and watered that tree leaf still rotting put sulfur on the on the soil sulfur is great for plants Leafs is still rotting you could have put phosphorus on there still rotting you put nitrogen boom the leaf heals Humans are no different. So the question is how do we find the deficiency? Because when if you want to see magic happen in human beings You give their body the raw material it needs to do its job if I was to put up a huge chart right now This crazy myriad of complicated reactions in the human body and I was to show you this chart You would look at this chart and go that is so overwhelming and so confusing. I can't even make sense of it It looks like a the most insane row map of just spaghetti stuck to the wall But if I kept zooming in on that chart You would recognize the name of everything on that chart. It would be common vitamins common minerals common amino acids that you've heard of that are readily available And you could go into that chart and say what happens when I pull this amino acid out what that would happens when I have a deficiency in trip to fend That's just an amino acid Well trip to fend is what our body makes serotonin out of So you take this amino acid you convert it into the neurotransmitter serotonin 90% of which is in our gut So if you don't have serotonin here you can't have it here And what happens when we're deficient in serotonin? Well now we have a mood disorder We have a mental illness and how do we try to fix that? We use a selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitor We use these SSRIs and we use other medications pharmaceuticals synthetics and chemicals to try to fix a nutrient deficiency And so I I wholly agree with you that You know we And we're in this search for looking better, feeling better, sleeping better, performing better, thinking faster Having the waking energy that we always wanted to have what you experienced from from NAD This is because you gave back the body what it needed to do its job It's a lot more simple than people think we make it complicated And and marketing You know really confuses consumers because I could make a case for respiratory, coq10, St. John's work, uh, Oshwaganda I could make it I could make a case for just about any NAD nicotinamyroticide nicotinac acid NMN You could make a case for any and all of these supplements in any given scenario But the question should be what does my body need? If I was that tree one of my missing nitrogen, oh the leafyles And so I'm a big believer that if If you haven't covered the foundational basics which will cost you nothing You know won't increase your budget if you haven't drawn attention to your sleep if you are not consciously Drawing your attention to your sleep If you haven't made mobility non-negotiable if if exercise is not non-negotiable And you're not eating the whole food diet meaning a diet absent highly processed food Then that's where you start that's where every human being should start because the answer is not chemicals synthetics and pharmaceuticals None of those would be on that chart. I just told you about If you zoomed in on that chart you would see not a single chemical Not a single synthetic not a single pharmaceutical. None of those are essential for our So when you're sitting down with a dano white or a Steve Harvey are you saying hey don't even get these tests Don't even do anything start with moving around eating and sleeping and then if you need it Then you go into these tests. I do I do both the first thing we do is dial in their sleep How do you do that if you can't I started smoking marijuana because you know that joke we wake up or like hello Like yeah, that's me right some people need to wake up and have a coffee. Mm-hmm. I need to wake up and calm down right So when it comes to sleeping my brain is already thinking about the next few days And then I'm like excited and then now I go to bed at four o'clock in the morning every night So like and then I started to smoke and then that doesn't even help anymore now. I'm just up smoking right so what you were using It was a truncullitic you were tranquilizing yourself to go to sleep and that's not good And that's not good so the question is why weren't you sleeping? I'll tell you why you weren't sleeping You weren't sleeping because you weren't tired. You weren't sleeping because your mind was awake So what happens to the vast majority of people that are nutrient deficient and and I'll give you the specific supplements for that none of which by the way or my supplements So what happens is when when you have certain nutrient deficiencies specifically the complex of B vitamins something called nephal folate and and and very often something called SAME and I'll explain that in a second what happens is as your environment quayets your mind wakes up So you've worked all day you know you've done all the right things and you lay down to go to sleep at night and your environment's quiet and all of a sudden your mind wakes up and you start doing what's called rumination And you start thinking about did I get everything on my grocery list? Did my belt match my shoes You know, did I return that Instagram post? Did I get through all my emails? You start you start Ruminating because now your mind is awake because your environment's quiet So the question is what wakes the mind up like that? Well, what wakes the mind up is a class of neurotransmitters called catecholamines These are waking neurotransmitters. They're actually part of our fight or flight response And therefore them nor up in FNF and FNF are in a fed drone and dopamine one of these we call adrenaline And so what happens is when these neurotransmitters rise in the brain, they start to create a wake and state Well, why are these neurotransmitters rising? Generally they're rising because you have an impaired ability to down regulate them So every time we have a thought in our mind, we also break that thought down So you create a thought and then you break it down you create a thought and you break it down The process of breaking down thought is just as important as the process of creating thought When you create thought at a faster rate than you break it down we call this tension deficit disorder But it's actually not an attention deficit at all. It's an attention overload disorder It's too many windows open at the same time. That's where they get overwhelmed. That's where you get overwhelmed. They can't break it down Yes, the 80d and 80d ADHD are not a or people that have ADD and ADHD take it from somebody who was diagnosed with that and very young age. I was actually a special needs program at University Maron. Welcome, special friend. Yeah. They called me a hybrid. I was in the regular class and in the special class. Oh, where you? Dude, I was like, I was diagnosed with hyperactivity disorder, impulse control disorder, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. And basically all they did was just put us in a big room, let us run around and jump on trampolines and roll around on mats. The best day of the life. Yeah, I was there for that. And then learn in small increments. Did they ever put you on a pill? They wanted to put me on. I don't know if it was Ritalin or Adderall back then. So I was born in 1970. This was in the late 70s, early 80s. But I was in this. I remember my mother thanked God being very, very resistant to them putting me on medication. But whatever it was at the time was I don't know if Ritalin had had been around by them, but is either Adderall or Ritalin want one of those that they wanted to put me on. But she had the presence of mine to say I'm not putting my son on medication. My mom was bullied into putting me on it. Like they held me back. If I mean the class, and they just sat her down and like, oh, his life is cooked. Like he's not going to amount to anything. Yeah. And they made her like up at night crying. And she begged God. She's like, if this is for him, let the door be open. If it's not close it. I was on it for about like two weeks. But I, you know, so if I never told my mom, I told her when I was older, but as soon as I took the pill on the way of the bus stop, I was like in the fifth or sixth grade, on the way to bus stop, I would yak it out every time. It would not sit in. It's an infetomy. Yeah. It's legal speed. So if you think about, so think about what's going on, fegeologically, right? You're creating thought at a faster rate than you're breaking it down. Yeah. So instead of saying, well, how do we then, how do we break down thought? Right? Because the mind's racing. So modern medicine says, well, here's the solution. If the mind's racing, let's put an infetamine into the body to race the central nervous system to match the pace of the mind. So that's like saying, all right, let's take the system that's not broken, the central nervous system. Let's break it to match the system that is. Let's see, this is why it's hard for me to want to put anything that they teach to put in my body because they go, hey, this is really good for you. But then we realize that like they do the bill gates. Like, hey, we'll give you Microsoft, but then we'll give you bugs and then we'll give you an antivirus. Yeah. So it's like dog like, and then now Bill Gates wants to do stuff in our house. We're good, man. Yeah. Stay away, dude. Yeah. So he's talking about depopulating the earth like dog. Yeah. He's a big dog. Dog, dog. He's a villain. And nobody's fooling you with that. This is the weirdest thing I've ever seen in my life. You don't have to even make it up because he says with his own feet, casually goes, yeah, there's too many people who got killed. Yeah. Everything. This is like you want. Yeah. He's like, yeah, we gotta shut this down. Yeah. There's too many people. What's up, my man? That groom themselves. I'm talking about the men that actually wash their face. They wash their hair. They actually care about being and looking presentable. This video is sponsored by Base Body Works. Let's talk about their shampoo and conditioner. They're met with really good ingredients that are plant-based that are peppermint and argon oil. This is going to help your hair feel cleaner, hydrated, and healthier looking. Now let's talk about the daily skin-cared duo. Charcoal cleanser plus moisturizing cream. Ingredients like willow bark and squalene helps clean pores and hydrates the skin. 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So if I was to parachute into someone's life like what I did with Dana White, for example, the first thing I did was fix his sleep. The second thing I did was fix his diet and the third thing I did was make exercise for him non-negotiable. And we did two types of testing. We did a blood test and we did a genetic test. The genetic test you do once in your lifetime, it's called a genetic methylation test. It's like testing the soil for what's missing. And you only do it once because the genes you're born with or the genes you die with. And it's important to understand that there is not a single compound known to mankind, not one. There's no vitamin, no mineral, no amino acid, no nutrient of any kind that we put into the human body that is used in the format that we put it in. It enters our body and then our body converts it into the usable form. So just like we pull crude oil out of the ground, right? You cannot put crude oil into your gas tank, right? Because the car doesn't understand that fuel source. But if you take crude oil, you refine it to gasoline, now the car can run. So everything that enters our body goes through this refining process. Where does that go? This is the gut. This happens mainly in the gut. So if you have a bad gut, if you imagine the center of a, like the take the hub of a wheel, a bicycle wheel, and you look at all the spokes coming out of it, the gut is right here at the center. And the number of conditions, eggs, hemocerius, smooth disorders, mental illnesses, I mean gut dysbiosis and dysfunctioning gut microbiome has so many consequences that we have labeled as pathology and disease. That are actually deficiencies in the gut. That is very, very true. Like autoimmune disease, I had really, really bad asthma when I was younger. And you know, like every doctor told my mom, she doesn't take steroids, she's going to die. And I healed it through food, through my gut, and through just completely rearranging my diet, eliminating things, reintroducing things. And it's crazy because those are your lungs, but I healed it in my gut. Yeah, I mean, I had a Harvard and Harvard PhD on my podcast that was Dr. Palmer, who is treating drug-resistant mental illness with diet. Right? So because, you know, if we get back to this nutrient deficiency, you know, once you, once you see what your body can convert into the usable form and what it can't, you supplement with that nutrient. So for example, one of the most common gene mutations in the world is called MTHFR. It's affectionately called the mother gene. Can I say a mother? Yeah, okay, because I did. So I always said it twice, just the eyes. Can I say it? Can I say it? Well, never mind, but so it stands for methylene tetrahedral folate reductase, but it's a gene mutation. It's the most common gene mutation in the world. Half your listeners listening to this podcast have it. Yeah. So what this does is it impairs or blocks your ability to take folic acid and convert it into the form the body uses, which is called methyl folate. Okay? Now that doesn't sound like a big deal until you realize that folic acid is the most prevalent nutrient in the human diet. So now if you can't convert the most prevalent nutrient in the human diet into the form your body can use, you have a massive deficiency. And that deficiency leads to all kinds of consequences. I'll give you a few. So for example, I've never in in almost a quarter of a million patients that came through our functional medicine clinic. I never once, not a single time, saw someone who was suffering from anxiety, who did not also have gut issues. People that suffer from anxiety will tell you they have gas, bloating, diarrhea, constipation, irritability, cramping. Me. Yes. I've never ever in my life had anxiety or depression. Couldn't even understand it when people said it. I grew up with struggles in my life. My mom and dad are like, shut up. Get back to work. I'll tell you what it's like to be sad. Yeah. Also, my mom and dad, I always joke around about that. But the truth is my mom and dad always taught me to see gratitude first instead of anxiousness. And biblically, it's a good pattern to follow. But I will admit, when I gained weight, and I thought it was psychologically because I gained weight, but I think it came at the same time. I gained weight. My gut is like just not doing well. I don't have, and this is kind of graphic. I don't have any solid stool for like two, three years. And I just, I came to the conclusion, I'm like, okay, I'm gaining weight. I don't feel like I used to feel like very tired, very like what's the point? Like that's not who I am. And I had to like re-engineer my mind back to where I think of it. But it wasn't like a diet thing. And so I'm trying to circle back as this. The way that we're eating now, the way that we're sitting down, the way we're looking at our phone is very different than how my dad was raised. My dad came from Iraq to Chicago's working so many jobs, moving around. He had better food, better quality life. Now at my age, I'm looking at my friends and they're willingly on steroids or are any type of like testosterone boost. Yeah. Just borrowing from their future. Okay, so I want to talk to you about that because to me, I feel like this is how life is to me. It's either you want to work for it the right way, the way the honorable way, the way that God intends for you to labor, or you just take the devil's way. He's like, come on, just take it. Just inject yourself. You'll feel good. You'll feel strong. But I look at the future of theirs and I'm not a scientist to know if that's going to affect them or not. So is it wrong for kids my age to instead of trying to change their diet, try to get that test to try to figure out what they need. Rather than just go see they have low tests, have a doctor inject them, doctor gets paid, dude feels great. What happens to that dude in the future? Oh, now he's dependent on hormone when you take hormone and full disclosure, I'm on hormone therapy. I take testosterone injections. So why does it become okay? So when you have what's called true testicular hypofunction, when your body loses the capacity to produce optimal levels of this hormone, it can be game changing, life changing. I mean, the FDA just removed all the black box warnings from female hormone therapy. And the reason they did that was because one of the largest female hormone studies ever were conducted on the surface of the mother earth, it was called the Women's Health Initiative. When that study was completed, it concluded that hormone therapy for women actually decreased their risk of breast cancer. It concluded that it mitigated the effects of menopause, the mood disorders, the depression, the hot flashes. So the question is, I'll get back to the same thing all the time. What is the body need? Before you start to take over function in the human body, you should ask yourself, does this person have the wrong material to do its job? You could buy a brand new Ferrari, park it in that garage, drain the gas tank, and that engine is not going to start and it's not going to run. There is nothing wrong with that vehicle. As soon as you add gas to the tank, it's going to start again. So the question is, how do we find the deficiency? Before we assume that something has gone wrong, before we assume that God has made a mistake and the immune system has started to attack you, we should say, does this body have the wrong material, it needs to do its job? So if you know, for example, that you have this gene mutation, MTHFR, you need to supplement with methylfolate. When you do, magic things will happen in the human body. Because when we talk about the gut, I believe that the most overlooked thing in all of bariatric medicine, gut medicine, is not the contents of the gut. It's not food allergies, it's not food sensitivities. It's in many cases not even the gut microbiome. It is the pace of the gut. It is the speed that it moves. So you said I hadn't had a firm stool in three years or ten years. That's because your gut's moving too fast. When that, so think about your gut as a 30-foot long conveyor belt. You put contents on it at one end as they exit the stomach. 30 feet later it's going to exit the rectum. The pace of that conveyor belt is everything. How fast that the speed of that conveyor belt matters. If you went into any factory in the world that works on a conveyor belt system and you just walked into that factory and you doubled the speed of the conveyor belt, the entire factory would break down. If you paused the conveyor belt, the factory would break down. If you slowed it down, then sped it up and then paused it and then sped it up and then slowed it down again, you jack up the whole production line. Then what happens is when the pace of the gut gets off, people immediately think, what did I last eat? And they're like, oh, I have a food allergy. I have a food sensitivity. Well the way to find out if you have a food allergy or food sensitivity is to ask yourself the question, is there ever a time that I can eat this and not have a reaction? So if you say, I'm allergic to corn, or red, okay, bread. Is there ever a time that you can eat bread and not have a reaction? If that answer is yes, yes, sometimes. And Italy. No, I'm okay. And Italy, that's because it doesn't have folic acid. Oh, they put folic acid in bread. Is that the main difference? That is the main difference. And why do they put that in there? So back to this gene mutation, MTHFR. And this gene mutation surrounding the conversation, huh? Yeah, which half the population has. I can't emphasize this enough. Half the population has this. If you don't mind me, I'm sorry to catch up. Why do they have it? It's just the most common, most prevalent gene mutation in the world. Why? Because as we don't pass disease from generation to generation with very rare exceptions, we have this notion in modern medicine that disease is genetically inherited. And if you go to the doctor and they find that you have high blood pressure, for example, and they'll say, and they do a full cardiac workup. Everything's normal. EKG is normal. EEG is normal. Heart sounds normal. Lung sounds normal. Everything's normal with your heart. They're going to medicate you because they're going to say, you know what? It's your father's brother had high blood pressure. Your mom's brother has high blood pressure. You have genetically inherited hypertension, genetically inherited high blood pressure. But if you ask them, what gene did I inherit that caused this condition to exist? That's when their face would go blank because there is no gene for that condition. So it is not genetically inherited. In fact, the human genome is expressly designed to not pass on disease. One of us would be here if the genome was designed to pass disease on. What we pass from generation to generation is the inability for the body to take a raw material, folic acid, for example, and convert it into the usable form. So if we look at in the United States, we passed a law in the early 90s that required the federal government to spray all of our grains, all pasta, all bread, all cereals, all flour with the chemical folic acid. And I say chemical because folic acid does not exist naturally in nature. You cannot find folic acid anywhere on the surface of the earth. We make it in a laboratory. So how do you know if a food's been sprayed with folic acid, it will say fortified or enriched. Something that is fortified or enriched has been sprayed with folic acid. So now half the population cannot break down folic acid. Then why do they put it in the food? They put it in the food because folic acid, when it breaks down into methyl folate, helps prevent neural tube defects in pregnant women. It actually helps defeatus develop. And so when there was a high number of neural tube defects and miscarriages in pregnant women, they surmised that they needed to supplement with folic acid, which was a patently false. You need to supplement with methyl folate. And so they required that our grains, flowers, rice, pasta, cereals of any kind be sprayed with this chemical folic acid. What we really should have done was spray it with methyl folate, the form the body can use. This is the leading cause of postpartum depression in young women. What is the first thing an OB/GYN tells a young woman that gets pregnant to do? Take high doses of folic acid. What happens if she has that gene mutation, which almost half the women have? She immediately goes nuts. If you look at the on, she goes nuts. I mean, that postpartum depression, even though it's called postpartum, it actually starts during pregnancy. So they start taking a prenatal vitamin. They start getting anxious. They start developing anxiety. They start exhibiting signs of depression. After the pregnancy is over, they're still taking the prenatal vitamin. They're still exhibiting these symptoms. Eventually, they stop taking the prenatal vitamin. And the symptoms go away. So they blame it on the pregnancy, not on the vitamin. And so, again, this is getting us back to the basics. And why is it that we think that a man-made chemical that didn't even exist until 1993 is somehow essential for human performance? It can't be. What's essential is what comes from nature, like folate and methyl folate. I don't want to get into my conspiracy bag, but it's kind of hard to like turn away from these type of things now. We look at villains in Marvel movies or DC movies, you know? And what do they do? They give you the problem so that they can give you the solution. And then we sit here, we scoff and we laugh. But then we're watching them do that to us here. And now, if I go to the doctor and they say, "Oh, your dad has this." So you're linked into it. Where can a man feel safe to go and get actual help? Where he feels safe and not like somebody's just pushing a pill? And can I ask you a question? Do these doctors get money when they push these type of medications? Well, the only way that they can get paid is if that if the prescription or the treatment is covered by Medicaid, Medicare, by health insurance. So the only way that, and this is why I'm not anti-money medicine, by the way, at all. And I'm certainly not anti-physician. I'm not licensed to practice medicine. And I have the almost a respect for people that are, I think, virtually 100% of people that get into medicine to be a practitioner do so for the right reason. They go into a system that only gives them one solution. So if you come to see me as a physician, I can't prescribe diet, lifestyle, spiritual wellbeing. I can't ask you about your sense of community, your sense of purpose, the connections that you have in your life, you know, your sleep, whether or not you're eating a whole food diet, is exercise something that you do on a regular basis. I just take the problem that you have and if it is a disease or a disorder and I will tell you the best way to manage it. We maintain symptoms and we manage disease. We don't think about permanently putting it in your rear-view mirror. And I never check your body to see what you're deficient in. I just assume the body has made a mistake. So I have everybody do what's called a genetic methylation test. You do that test. You will never guess again for the rest of your life on which your body is deficient. You will have an exact roadmap on what to supplement with. That way you're not you're waiting through the noise. You're not just supplementing for the sake of supplementing. You're supplementing for deficiency. That is the most important thing you can do. What is my body need? How do I know what it's missing and how do I give it that raw material? So let's say I find out what I'm deficient in right now. I find A, B and C are my deficiencies and I start supplementing for them or you know helping myself get what I need. do I know when my body has been replenished, if I need to continue supplementing or if I'm good, and I can kind of. You will take those supplements for the rest of your life because if your genes cannot convert one raw material into the form the body needs, there'll never be a time where you can. Right? So if you really. Yeah, I mean, the genes you're born with are the genes you die with. But how do you. So does that mean you're broken? No, it doesn't mean you're broken. It just means that you're deficient. Forever. If you don't fix it with diet and/or supplementation, that deficiency will always exist and it will continue to manifest with that. So for example, do you know anybody that suffers from anxiety? Do you ever suffer from it? Yeah, I know people lose. Okay, so somebody that's listening to this podcast. Well, sir, I had so many jokes that I just popped up. Why? Who's asking? Wait, what are you talking about? Why are you asking me that? Are you looking to me? I also think it's a widely overused word. I think everybody says they have anxiety. But I also think that it's maybe. And now, actually from what you're saying, it would make sense why it feels like it's an epidemic, why there's so many people having anxiety because of the food in their lifestyles and were unhealthier than ever. So I guess it would make sense that there's so many people to have. Here's the common thing that will run through the threat of people suffering from anxiety. If you ask them these three questions, if you say, "Have you had it on and off throughout your entire lifetime?" Yeah. I have. Okay. There's the first sign that it's genetics related to a deficiency. If you ask them, "Can you point to the specific trigger that causes it?" Every time you feel anxiety, do you know exactly what the trigger is? They'll say, "No. Sometimes." It just seemingly gums and goes very often without a trigger. That's tough. I don't need to be afraid of heights and walk to the edge of a 30th or a 40th. I don't need to be claustrophobic and step on a crowded elevator. I can feel anxiety sitting on a podcast just like this. I can be a dinner with my family and all of a sudden I'm like, "I'm like overwhelmed with anxiety." Do you ever deal with it? No. Because I don't have that gene mutation. I don't explain that in a second. If you try to anti-anxiety medications, did they work? They'll say, "No. They just made me feel like a zombie." If you look at the genetic profile in those people, they're very likely to have a gene mutation called MTHFR and one called Compte. These are very easy to supplement for. They're deficient in the high amounts of the B complex, complex of B vitamins. These are simple, over-accounted B vitamins, periodoxine, rovelflavin, thymin, niacin, panethenic acid, the B vitamins. They need, in most of these cases, methylfolate. When you put that into their body, they start to break down these fight-or-flight neurotransmitters. This fight-or-flight neurotransmitters return to balance and they feel normal. If you don't know that you have this deficiency, you start searching for everything in your outside environment. You start trying to link, "Well, I feel this way. Why do I feel this way?" Well, you know, I just recently moved or I got a new job or I haven't been sleeping as much. You're constantly looking in your outside environment for why your inside environment feels this way. Your inside environment feels that way because it's nutrient-efficient. This is like the message that I really want to preach to people because the human body was designed by God. It is such a magnificent machine, but it needs raw materials to do its job. It needs vitamins. It needs minerals. It needs amino acids. It needs some basics to do its job. When you start to pull those out, you get this expression of all of these disorders. Again, I start by generally asking them to do this test and you can get this methylation test survival all over the place in there. And are they all accurate? Yes, they all use the same PCR method. They're very accurate. And then once you know that information, you do a basic blood panel. You don't have to get crazy. You want to look at hormone balance. You want to look at what's called glycemic control. How well are you controlling your blood sugar? Because I promise you, blood sugar is the root of all evil. In fact, the Bible should say blood sugar is the root of all evil, not the love of money. Because it's like, you know, love of money is not killing people. Blood sugar is. That was a joke. He's like, bro, we're not changing the Bible, dude. Get off my podcast. No, because I grew with that. No, you crossed the line. I grew with that. I grew with that. I think that blood sugar is the root of all evil. But it's so good. But you look at hormone balance, nutrient deficiencies, and glycemic control. How well am I controlling my blood sugar? My glucose, my hemoglobin A1C, and my insulin. That's where you start. Those are the markers. If I go to the doctors wherever it is that you go to get these tests, these are the markers I'm asking for. I want a hormone panel. I want nutrient deficiencies. I'll send you the panel that I would recommend that can get it anywhere. Most people's primary care physician may be handling it in the podcast. It's a very simple panel. I'm actually going to be doing this. This is something I'm really, really interested in because once I took that NAD plus, and I'm taking the row now. So I'm taking three things. The orange thing. I'm going to come in for a rest of the trial. Thank you. Carcumail is a very strong one. And then. Blue to thion. And then NAD was for antioxidant. And I've been feeling great. So I think that. Yeah. I'm going to say right on the podcast and we're going to do this test and you come back and see if I'm right. You have a gene mutation called compt, C-O-M-T. And you have a gene mutation called M-T-H-F-R. We have those two gene mutations. Well, you think he has a thing, but you're saying? Absolutely. Is it the moment that you're going to go? It's the moment. I love. But it is the mother could you? I'm visually so you're the man. Can I take you with you? You may actually be mother. Because I want to take a picture of me. Reason won't be okay. And actually do like I want to go through everything we talked about it actually seriously. Because I think it's, it's really cool for me to sit on a podcast and talk about it. But I think like the gospel, right? Like it's cool to preach the gospel, but it's better to preach with your actions. Yeah. So I want to take myself out of the hole to show other men that like you don't need to stop showing shots. You don't need to go and take anti-depressants or do anything. You need to change your food. You need to change your mobility. And you need to change your sleep. I really do believe in it. And I have lacked on all three of those things. And then you can add simple things like sunlight, grounding, breath work that don't add a dollar to your day. You know, I have not missed morning breath work and probably 48 months straight without a single exception. I'll miss a commercial flight, not to miss breath work. And is that in your early morning? It's in my early morning. The first 30 minutes of my day is the same every day, all day, every day in a matter where I am in the world. And sometimes I don't touch the surface of the earth because it's not possible, but I will do, I will get sunlight into my eyes, I will get sunlight on my skin, and I will do a round of breath work, simple round of whim off breath work, very, very simple. And I hydrate, I mineralize, I take a mineral salt that has all 91 trace minerals in it. I take all nine of the essential amino acids. I had a hydrogen tablet to that. Every single day, that's how I start my day. Whenever it's in the hydrogen thing, when you can take it, how do you do it? You just drop it in water. Take this, this is element. Talk to me about this. What does this do? And I know you said you put them in a bath. Yeah, you can bathe in hydrogen. I did that with magnesium. Yeah. Yeah, magnesium. Jude. I have a question I got to ask you. This is what I've seen. Now I'm going to get more into a personal thing. Okay. Okay. So my gut was an issue, and my toes started to get affected. Is that, is that gross? No, that's not gross. They put me on steroids. They put me on all this medication. Mm-hmm. Didn't change the thing. Well, came back worse. You know, it changed my toes to stop being blue. Apple cider vinegar. That's awesome. Why? Yeah, because you upset the pH balance in the blood, again, back to nutrient deficiencies. So if you think about the fact that our heart only circulates 30% of the blood in our body, most people think this heart circulates all the blood in our body. Yeah, I thought that didn't do it. Yeah, we have 63,000 miles, roughly a blood vessel in our body. None of us has a heart, a left ventricle that is strong enough with one contraction to push blood 63,000 miles. So it circulates 30% of the blood in our body. The other 70% of our circulation is microvascular. There's no pressure in these vessels. It is circulated by an activity called vasomotor. So think of a snake swallowing a mouse. Okay, it's a muscular transaction. The same way when you swallow, peristalsis will push a piece of chicken from the back of your throat into your stomach. And then eventually it'll exit the stomach and peristalsis, this muscular motion will push that food along your intestinal tract. There's no pressure. We don't have a hose in our mouth pushing things through. Right? So it's not the pressure of the heart. It's 70% of this circulation is this activity called vasomotor. So what are things that cater to vasomotor? Well things like red light therapy, apple cider vinegar, or storing the right pH to the blood. You know, when you start to having low homocysteine, so homocysteine is a natural amino acid that's in everybody's blood. Everybody listening to this podcast has homocysteine in their blood. And there are, again, back to the genetic test, there are gene mutations that impair your ability to break down homocysteine. So when this, when this amino acid starts to rise and it's cruising by the inside lining of your arteries, it will irritate your artery. And if you irritate an artery, it will clamp down. And if you make the pipes smaller in a fixed system, this is a closed system, the pressure goes up. And now you have high blood pressure. So if you make the pipes smaller in the periphery, your fingers and toes get cold. and they go numb. Your circulation gets lost. When I started taking the NAD plus and all that other thing, I noticed I had to actually chat GPT because I was getting worried. My hands were swelling up and my feet were swelling up. Yeah, because the flu of it was getting trapped in the tissues. Is that so should I stop taking it? Does that mean it's not working with me? No, you start to swelling, start taking any? Yeah. Okay. So then you take the precursor for NAD, NMN, nicotine in my riboside, or nicotine in gase, again, back to those basic p-vitamins. So the reason why I believe that you have those DG mutations is because you feel better because what you did with NAD included thion was you fixed your detox pathways. So glutathione is actually made by the liver. It is the master antioxidant in the human body. Every single cell in your body without an exception contains glutathione. There's not one cell in your body that does not contain glutathione. The body uses it to eliminate waste, cellular waste, right? So if you have impaired glutathione pathways, if you have an impaired ability to make glutathione, which is made from three amino acids, if you have an impaired ability to make glutathione, your detox pathways are impaired. What does this mean? It means that you're prone to more inflammation. You're prone to slow healing. You actually build up toxicity in the body. More than someone else, you don't methylate heavy metals, mold, microtoxins. So the body gets dirty, if you will, because when cells are not eliminating waste, that waste starts to accumulate in our tissues. When you add something like glutathione and NAD, it helps fix those waste elimination pathways. And so the cells start to eliminate waste again. And this is why you feel so much better. Not everyone needs NAD and not everyone needs glutathione. If you have impaired glutathione pathways, you should be supplementing with glutathione. And these nutrients help fix the detoxification pathways in the body. Like, for example, all three of us, or we could take 100 people, and we could all eat the exact same amount of mercury-laden tuna fish every day, meaning tuna fish with a little bit of mercury in it, every single day for, let's say, 90 days. At the end of 90 days, a third of us are going to have deadly mercury poisoning. A third of us are going to have some amount of heavy metal build up, and we're going to have minor symptoms like brain fog, a little bit of processing speed issues with short-term recall, and our focus and concentration is going to be off. And the third of us will have no trace of the metals at all. Same dose, different results. Why? Because everybody is genetically different. And if your detox pathways are impaired, you're going to build up metal toxicity fast. If they're slightly impaired, you're going to build up much more slowly. If they're fully working, you have no consequences. Same thing happened with the vaccine. People took the mRNA vaccine, and they're absolutely fine. No spike protein build up. They're falling into that category of a third of people that are fine after taking them are mRNA vaccine. A third of the people eliminates spike protein poorly. And now they have mood issues. They have hormone disruption. They have weight gain. What are retention? Poor sleep. Poor focus and concentration, low waking energy. But they can live with it. So they just sort of mildly suffering, and they'll do that for years, until they detoxify from it. But a third of the people can eliminate it at all. Those are the people that got myocarditis or pericarditis and had severe consequences. So, okay. How do you feel about fasting? Because. Huge fan. Right, okay. Because through I've been learning a lot about fasting, obviously biblically, it's something that God tells us. Every major religion in the world has fasted for centuries. Right. Which is beautiful. Which is just beautiful. And that process that you're saying with the glutathione, that it's getting rid of the waste in ourselves, it's kind of like the same process that fasting does for us. Right, after a certain amount of hours, we're able to actually eat the garbage in our body and we're able to throw that out. So now is glutathione that kind of like missing that kind of end key that will then take you filled up your garbage cans, and you'll empty out those cans? Yes. So, so. But first of all, I love that you're bringing up fasting. I'm a huge fan of fasting. It's another one of those free tools that we can just access. But fasting is even more powerful than that. And there is a reason why I think every major religion in the world has fasted for centuries. Because what happens when you fast is you're not putting any energy source into the body. Well, I mean, how's the body going to power itself? It still needs to be. Even though you're not eating, your body is. Yeah. It's just eating you. So the question is, what is it eating? Well, it's going to eat you from the weakest point forward. It's going to start to consume something called senescent cells. These are cells that are hanging out in your body that can no longer perform their function. They're alive, but they're useless. Right? And so. That's so funny. These are like red blood cells that can't carry oxygen. White blood cells that can't mount an immune defense. Platelets that can't carry growth factors. Right? They're useless cells. It's like having a company full of lazy employees. Yeah. They're still sucking on the payroll. They're not doing a damn thing. Right? What the immune system will do is eat them. Which I find it so beautiful. That's crazy. You mean that how the body just does that? Yeah. So divine. Pray, there is zero chance that this happened by chance. That this. To coded. To bacteria banged in a mud puddle. Yeah. A whole billion years ago, no, those are crawled out and then you had a fish and you had a burden. Yeah. And then we have. And the lizard came up to. Like, you guys need glutathione. Yeah. The pathways are blocked. Yes. But there is. We could go down that road. And there's massive. There's an entire lineage of fossils missing from the fossil record that even support evolution. Evolution is. Non-sensical. But so back to fasting. So it will consume these senescent cells. Which cleans up inflammation. Your body actually breaks these into amino acids and turns them into energy. It's fascinating. And then what happens is your body switches from processing all of this garbage, all the stuff that we're just shoveling in every day. And it goes into healing and repair mode. I mean, fatty livers have resolved in three to five days of water fasting. You know, the gut can heal and seal. There's a single cell layer, one cell layer separating your outside environment from your inside environment. One cell layer lines your gut, the luminal wall of your gut. And what's inside your gut is not meant to be inside your body. But when you get breaks in that, what we call leaky gut, things that are inside the gut that don't belong in your bloodstream leak into your bloodstream. What does that cause? It causes things like Crohn's disease. So when you have toxins from the gut that leave the gut wall and enter the bloodstream, this is called leaky gut. What happens is the immune system gets called to that site and it starts to fight. And you get inflammation. You get all kinds of consequences. Those toxins, the liver pushes out through the skin, eczema, psoriasis, rashes, spacious acne. If you're somebody listening to this and you have gut issues where you have either gas or bloating, diarrhea, constipation, irritability, cramping. If you were able to do, you can actually go to my website and I have a three day water fast completely free. You can just download it. And I walk people through how to do a three day water fast. So that's awesome. And I start with, I do, I do want every quarter. And I'll have 50, 70,000, a thousand people on these. It's not hard if you, you got to get through day two. And you also have to understand that hunger is not consistent. It comes every two to three hours in a 20 minute wave. So you got to be strong for 20 minutes every three hours. You do not have to be strong for 24 straight hours, right? Hunger will come in waves. And if you understand that, you're like, okay, there it is. I want to go to the refrigerator. I want to eat, get up, take a walk, do around a breath work, has some mineral water, you know, distract yourself. And are you allowed to do anything? Or are you supposed to just be resting? I wouldn't do high intensity exercise. I definitely wouldn't stop exercising. I would walk on a treadmill and walk outside. I would put a weight of best on and go for a walk. I wouldn't, I wouldn't because fasting is a hormetic stress. Put your body on the stress. And you wanted to just focus on healing and repairing the body. Because at the tail end of a three day water fast, your growth hormone will go up 10 fold. That's your body going into serious repair mode. It will begin to heal and seal the gut. So you start day one, you do a bone broth at noon, and you do a bone broth at 6 p.m. So it doesn't break your fast? That is, yeah, you're not fasted yet. Okay. So you just go from solid food. So let's say that we wanted to do water fast starting tomorrow. Yeah. Tomorrow I would have, I would wake up, I would have, I would have water, I would have hydrogen tablets, and I would have a mineral salt. And then at noon I would have a bone broth. And at 6 p.m. I would have a bone broth. Okay. So you're going from solid food to liquid food day one. And it makes that day not so hard, right? Anybody can get through that day. Day two, you're waking up, you're going to be hungry. So day two is when you switch to water only. I use a water, a mineral salt, an amino acid, and hydrogen tablets, but at the very basic, you need a mineral salt because you want to make sure you don't get a lecture-like deficient to earn a water fast. None of those things will break a fast. So day two, focus on getting three liters of water with mineral salt at a minimum. And in the latter half of day two, that's when the hunger is going to, is going to really hit. Those 20 minute waves are really intense. So you just have to get through those 20 minute waves. You put yourself to bed and now you are one sleep away from the third day of your water fast. And day three, you get up and do the same thing. The mineral salts, three liters of water, and just start counting down the hours until you can get into bed. I promise you, the fourth day, you will wake up like you found the Messiah. Like you will think you took a limitless pill and won the lottery. - Really? - I think I need to know. - Clear, so focused, so alert, so awake. In fact, about a third of the people that do my three day fast will continue for two more days on their own. - Do I? - I feel so good. And I'm not hungry. The hunger goes away. - Is it bad to carry on? - No. - I wouldn't go past five days without being medically supervised, but you can go three to five days. I mean, trust me when I tell you everybody that's listening to this podcast, the vast majority of you can go without solid food for two days. - Yeah, so I'm out. - And please go, how you will feel. What you have done for your body at the end of that three day fast is miraculous. Healed and sealed your gut, reduced inflammation, your body has eliminated waste. It's eaten these senescent cells and by the way, when your body consumes these cells, you will replace them with fresh, new healthy cells. It's like going into your company, firing all the lazy employees and getting people in there that are 100% committed to doing the job. - It's so cool. - And should I do my test for my blood work and all that stuff before, after I do it? - I would do it before. - Before that. - 'Cause you're gonna see miraculous changes. You're gonna see dramatic changes in your blood work. - So when, okay, I said, - I'm out of it. - There's your insulin sensitivity. It lowers your hemoglobin A1C. It lowers your insulin. It means you make sure insulin more effective, meaning more sensitive. You become less insulin resistant. It also helps the brain eliminate waste. We have a lymphatic system in the body. So our lymph nodes in the body are what, our lymphatic system is what eliminates waste in the body. In the brain, we have what's called a lymphatic system. So it's the lymph of the brain and it eliminates waste from the brain. So again, by waste, that don't mean stool in urine. I mean like histamines and cytokines, all this inflammatory stuff from the brain. By the way, the lymphatic system is most active during deep sleep. That's why deep sleep is so important. - Yeah, and if you don't get that in fact. - And if you don't get it and usually deep sleep happens in the first 90 minutes of your sleep cycle. So if you miss it, it doesn't come back. So that's why that's why sleep. - I don't think I've had a good, nice sleep in a long time. I'm gonna fix that for you. - Yeah. - Okay, you know how you can drain your lymph nodes? - Mm-hmm. - So I just, my lymph nodes get really backed up and it should get sore. - It should get oxygen. - Yeah, and I do like lymphatic drainage. So when you sleep and you get deep sleep, is that the same way that you can drain your brain lymph? - Yes, that's exactly it. - Okay. - Yeah, that's exactly it. So you have a deep phase of sleep, which is where the lymphatic system is active. You have a REM phase of sleep, which is where we're assembling memory. Right? - Okay. - So like, let's say you learned some things on this podcast today. Tonight when you go to sleep, you will assemble that into a memory. Like you're in a gambus or a memory store, your prefrontal cortex, these two communicate, and it will become a learned memory. So if you get good sleep, you retain information. If you get good sleep, you eliminate waste from the brain. That's why sleep is our human superpower. I mean, it legitimately is. And it is the red-headed stepchild of everybody's day. We bully sleep around, like, you know. - Yes, I stepchild. - I feel like we're, you know what it is? We're in a society, or is it like, you're sleeping probably, no, let's get going. You have to get right. - You have to get right. - Yeah, I'll seize the day sleep for losers. I'll sleep when I die. - The worst device ever. - Yeah, and also it's just also like, biblically you're not trusting God. Like there's a reason why God made night. My mind is always telling me that, like get rest. And also getting rest is trusting in God. And then the one day a week that we call the Sabbath is resting in God. This year I'm trying to tackle rest. First from a spiritual, which I praise God that I'm getting there, that renew my mind, and now my mind is gonna change my body. So my mind this past year has been telling me, hey, George, your habits are gonna catch up to you. And there's one that I wanna be vulnerable about. And I'm so ashamed that I do this, but I've added marijuana to my ritual because I've now used as a medical use. I don't go on party with people. I'm not doing silly things like that, but I need to shut down. And so I literally just go into my brain. I say everybody, you're permanently shut down by smoking, and I feel like I fogged my brain up. Are you against marijuana or are you for marijuana? Like how do you feel about marijuana? - Believe it or not, I'm actually a fan. We have an endocannabinoid. - No second. - Let's go. - Let's go, cool. - I don't do this. I don't do this to me, though. - I mean her like Scooby-Doo and Shaggy-Dar. (laughing) - I don't smoke weed. I'm never faulty in post to do that, but doing it for the high is one thing. There are a lot of medicinal properties to both THC and CBD. And when we discovered the endocannabinoid system, I think the argument for CBD and cannabis became very, very clear. And if you look at the consequences of long-term narcotic use for pain versus things like THC for pain, I mean they're night and day. But make no mistake, long-term use of THC, especially in high doses, there are consequences to that. - Right, talking to me about it. - There's that. - So short-term recall, focus. - What does that mean? - Concentration. How well you're deprocessing speed in your brain. So solving complex tasks, retaining memory, motivation who what I would call like a positive aggression towards life, positive aggression towards working out. - Yeah. - So you can see some of these characteristics fade over time. - So if we're looking at it as a tree, and we notice a leaf is dying, we're checking the soil. What is the marijuana doing to my system? What is it attacking that's causing my brain to get lazy? - It's cannabinoids, right? That so we have an endocannabinoid system in the body. It's just a system that where we shovel around. - Is that why they call it cannabis? - Yes, why they call it cannabis? Because of the cannabinoid system in the body. Actually, I don't know if they, I think cannabis was related to the plant, but I'm not really sure what the root of that is. Maybe it is from the endocannabinoid system. But the truth is that this is a very, that we naturally the body can process these things there, they're what we call metabolites, which means that the body can process it and eliminate the waste. Very often with pharmaceuticals or synthetics or chemicals, we can't eliminate them, right? So they build up, have you ever heard the term forever chemical? - Yeah, also, yeah. - So I'm here. - But glyphosate, pericoid, insecticides, pesticides, herbicides, these things that we say, well, these doses are safe because they don't create toxicity in the body. In fact, there's a prevailing saying in science that the dosage determines the poison. And that's not necessarily true. The cumulative dosage determines the poison. In other words, nobody ever got deadly mercury poisoning from eating one piece of tuna fish. But if you keep eating the same mercury-laden tuna fish over time, you will reach a toxic load, right? So my point is that our body can process THC and cannabis and CBD, and it can completely eliminate the waste. So it's something the body recognizes, like food. You could eat 1,500 to 2,000 calories a day for the rest of your life because we don't desensitize to food. It's not like 10 years from now you need to be in 4,000 calories and 20 years from now you need to be in 6,000 calories. You're not desensitizing to food. Why? Because your body recognizes it, it processes it, it breaks it down and it eliminates the waste, right? It's not accumulating where when you use certain pharmaceuticals and chemicals, certain synthetics, the body builds tolerance. Like if you're on thyroid medication, the one thing I can guarantee you is that your dosage will go up over time. If you're on an narcotic painkiller, the one thing I can guarantee you is that dosage will go up over time because you desensitize to it. So it's marijuana and THC are dissimilar in that way. So the body actually can process these and eliminate the waste. So I do, I believe in medicinal marijuana, I believe in CBD, I think that it saved a lot of lives. I think it's gotten a lot of people out of pain. I think it's helped a lot of people with trauma when it's used properly. - Joe Rogan does it and I feel like he has a really good recall. - Yeah, I mean, he's also doing all the other right things. I mean, he takes a methylated multivitamin, I mean, he's exercising every day. He focuses on sleep. He's got a great sense of community, connection, purpose, which is something we don't talk about a lot as being a foundation for optimal health. I will say very often that faith is medicine and because community is medicine, connection is medicine, we don't think of it that way. If you look at blue zone studies, for example, there was no continuity between diets. Right, so you cannot make an argument and tell me that the carnivore diet extends life, you know, the keto diet, the paleo diet, the pescatarian, vegan, vegetarian, raw food. There's no evidence that a dogmatic diet extends life. The evidence says that the absence of processed food will extend life. There are no blue zones in the world where they're eating highly processed diet. Right, but people will just snatch the Mediterranean diet and say, see how long people are living on the Mediterranean diet, you should just be on the Mediterranean diet. Well, then what about Serginia, where they have the highest carbohydrate consumption in the world? What about Singapore, where they have the highest meat consumption per capita, and they're living just as long? What about the French that are fucking up the whole model? because they're eating cheese, drink a wine, someone were smoking cigarettes, we're having to a hundred and five years old. So, what is it? The essence of processed food. Okay, so, okay. That's, your diet should be a whole food diet. If you look at what we just did with an NIC week, 'cause I'm, Do you have a cheat meal or no? Yeah, I mean, I have a cheat meal. I'm a human being. If I go to my five year old niece's birthday party, I have a slice cake, right? I'm not that guy. But you don't have pizza every day. No, no. It's just like right now, give me a twitch. And I hate that I have to be this, 'cause it's so embarrassing, but I have to be so honest. This past week I've been eating clean, but my normal life is like three weeks. But my normal life is like, I'm on the road, so I get like fast food restaurants every day. Yeah, you're just emotionally addicted to food, right? I mean, food addiction, sugar addiction, I would put sugar addiction, sugar addiction, right up there with heroin, nicotine, alcohol. I mean, it is one of the, if not the most, addictive compound on the planet. Let's unpack it. How do I get out of this? Let's unpack that. So we know, for example, now that Alzheimer's is type three diabetes, right? Do you Google type three diabetes? Insulin resistance in the brain, you'll see that that is the genesis of a lot of neurocognitive decline, things like Alzheimer's, dementia, you know, early memory loss. And why is that? Because the brain is crack addicted to sugar, right? And what the brain wants, the brain gets. The brain is like, is nasty. And the brain is like the little Kim Jong-un of dictators. Okay, versus. - Trust me, I know. When I see in and out, you just, right there! - Right there! - Right there! - Right there! Right there! - That mushroom is a little too much. Right after cut that one. - I got really drastic, dude. My mind went back that one up. - Oh, it's so funny. - So what the brain wants to bring gets, right? If the brain wants amino acids, it'll strip it from lean muscle. If it wants calcium, it'll leach it from the bones. If it wants sugar, it will activate receptors on the back of your tongue. And it will give you a drug award. It will reward you with dopamine for getting a sugar. So we don't like sugar, we are addicted to sugar. Because in short term, it makes us feel happy 'cause it's a little dopamine thing. The same reason why we're addicted to our phones, our phones design with certain wavelengths of blue light to raise cortisol and give us a dopamine reward. There's mystery and suspense and reward and right inside that little screen, so I got to check it. Did I get something on Instagram? Can I see somebody getting knocked out? Can I see a check? It's like dopamine, dopamine, dopamine. So it's giving us a dopamine reward. Sugar is the same way. And we get crack addicted to sugar. And when the brain becomes insulin resistant, then what happens is it becomes clog. We actually start to store sugar in these areas of the brain, called the neuro-synaptic junction where the nerves don't touch. And eventually you get these little tangles in the brain called neurofibillary tangles. Eventually start to build up something called amyloid plaques. But those are not the cause of Alzheimer's. Those are the byproduct of Alzheimer's. I mean, I would say I would argue that one of the best things that you can do for longevity, for anti-aging, for whatever you wanna call it bio optimization is manage your blood sugar. Look at your three-month average of blood sugar, which is called your hemoglobin A1C. Look at your insulin try to have fasted insulin below eight or nine in the low single digits. Try to have your hemoglobin A1C three-month average of your blood sugar around 5.2, 5.3, which means that instead of your blood sugar throughout the day looking like a heart monitor, it looks like rolling hills. And this gives you steady energy. It's very hard to conquer sugar cravings, but you can do it in about nine days by abstaining from sugars and what's called high glycemic carbohydrates. The carbohydrates that really spike your blood sugar. And our mood is very tight to sugar. And so what happens in the strain range is that we're trying to activate these receptors. And it will, since dopamine is the main driver of behavior, it will get you off the couch and walk you to the refrigerator to the cabinet to get a dopamine reward. So we don't like sugar, we're addicted to sugar. And it's one of the hardest cycles to break. When I was working with Dana White, I put him on a 10 week keto reset. And I basically said, if it's not on this list, you cannot eat it. I wrote a diet for him right down to the grocery list, stuck to it like the gospel. And at the end of that, that a few weeks in, he told me about six weeks, he had no desire for sweets at all. - This is what I looked like when I was on keto. - Damn. - Within a few weeks. - Exactly, we gotta put that on the podcast. - So that's the sad part. Like when I first met her, that's how I always joke around her there, I go, what she met me like I was shredded and great. - She was like, "Damn dude, I got soar best fit." You were a part of investment. And I wanna get back to that body where I just feel so confident. Why is it that keto worked so well with me? And is that something that maybe I should just do for the rest of my life? - No, not for the rest of your life. I mean, I'm a big believer in keto resets because it's like a full metabolic reset. I mean, keto was really studied extensively and developed for epilepsy, all right? Because it's one of the lowest inflammatory diets you can be on. You have to be on a clean keto diet. You just can't eat a bunch of garbage fat. And people don't understand that. Most people don't understand that. The keto diet is not a high protein low carb diet. It is a high fat low protein, very low carbohydrate diet. So about 75% of your calories from fat, avocados, coconut oil, olive oil, nuts, fatty rib eyes. And what happens is when your body switches into a state of ketosis, right? And which happens when you fast, right? Your body goes into ketosis. It starts burning ketone bodies like beta hydroxybutyrate for fuel. It is a very clean burning fuel. And by that, I mean, it creates a very low level of inflammation in the body. So a state of ketosis is a state of low inflammation. Every human being entered this world on a keto diet. Every single one of us, the first 48 hours of mother's milk called colostrum is highly ketogenic. It's the vast majority of that is fat. And so when you go into the state of ketosis and you start to burn these ketone bodies, the inflammation immediately drops in the body. People will notice their energy goes through the roof. After about nine to 11 days, your sugar cravings go to zero. You have no cravings for sweets and sugars anymore. Also, that's a two-sided topic. But inside of our mitochondria, which is the batteries, the powerhouse of the cell, we make 100 gallons of intracellular water every day. And when I tell people that their body makes 100 gallons of water every day, they go, that doesn't make any sense. I only drink a half a gallon of water. How do I make a gallon of water? You make water in your mitochondria, the same way we make it in space. You take two hydrogen, one oxygen, two gases. You put them together, you create a water molecule, and then the body breaks that apart into energy. Right? So when you're in ketosis, you create a type of water called deuterium depleted water. If you wanna have some fun, just Google deuterium depleted water. And this water is, it has one less proton. This water is very anti-inflammatory. Your cells love this type of water, and it starts to create this light water. Your inflammation starts to drop. The body starts to burn fat as a fuel source. So if you're calorie deficient, then it will immediately just start burning fat from your body, which is why it strips white fat, body fat off of your body and visceral fat. It literally starts to shrink that fat and use it as an energy. Are you getting it back when you're done with it though? Not if you transition properly to something more like a, if I was to pick a category of diets, sort of a paleo diet, which is, if your great-grandmother wouldn't recognize it, don't eat it. It's a whole food diet that allows you to eat a lot of everything, but grains and grains are kind of the most genetically modified and highly processed foods in our diet. The new nutritional guidelines just flip the food pyramid on its head. If you saw that, we see that. Yeah, Robert Kennedy is doing a really good job. How do you feel about this? I chair the Mahai action. I mean, I'm heavily involved in that campaign. Most of the heat that I get from social media, aside from a few haters is because I'm very vocal about what Bobby Kennedy is doing. I am absolutely committed to his agenda. And there's a lot of people that are against it, but I don't understand why they're, there's a doctor named Dr. Mike. Yeah. Well, I mean, he gets a lot of money from pharmaceutical companies. I respect him as a physician. He's a very smart guy and he puts a lot of good information out there. And he's attacked me several times. And some of the times that he's attacking, he's meant very valid. You know, I mean, some people that attack me on social media raise very good points, you know, because I'm not always right. And I've read articles and then put that information out on social media and really should have done more work to have a clinical study that backs it up. And, you know, I've had to recant some of the things that we've all known on social media. And so a lot of that criticism is well-founded. A lot of the personal criticism is just people personally attacking you. But so I'm not a big fan of his. It's simply because he's so opposed to Bobby Kennedy's agenda. And I'm-- And I think he's a lot more pro-vaccine, pro-pharma, pro-chemical, synthetic, or pharmaceutical than I would be. But he's also qualified to practice medicine, and I'm not. So I need to be cognizant of that. And so I respect that position that he's coming from. But how do you get paid by pharmaceuticals? What is the item? Well, I think it was Abbott Laboratories, and I don't profess to know all of the details, but the paid him over a million dollars, and he was a spokesperson for them. But I also get money from a lot of supplement companies, and I make money from the sale of red light beds. I make money from the sale of certain supplements. I'll make money of people by those hydrogen tablets. But I want to see the biggest, wealthiest, most profitable companies in the world, the end service to humanity. So I shamelessly do take money from. I make my living from promoting supplements and from modalities that I think are in service to people's human biology. And I think those should be the biggest, most profitable companies in America, those that care about the compounds that go into the bodies that they serve, those that are conscious about bioavailability of what they're putting into people's bodies. If you look at the way that pharmaceutical companies are structured, they have a fiduciary responsibility to their investor. CEO of pharmaceutical company can go to prison for mismanaging the money on the balance sheet, not for harming somebody who they've chemically poisoned. They don't have a fiduciary to the human being, to the person that's actually taking that drug or medication. They actually have a fiduciary to the stock market investor to improve their rate of return. So that, to me, is a massive disconnection. You should, if you are making compounds or modalities that human beings are going to use, it should be for their betterment, right? It should be in service to them. Like if you are making supplements or resveratrol or co-Q10 or you're making glutathione or liposonal nutrients, you should care about the bioavailability. You should care about the outcome. And when I see companies that have that orientation, I try to stand them up, get behind them and make them the biggest, most profitable companies. And I do that pretty shamelessly. When you get behind things that are not in service to humanity, but make you money, I think that's a disconnection. So when your advice is solely oriented around how much money you make, regardless of the outcome, the impact, the negative impact that it's going to have on somebody else's life, that's, I think, the disconnect. I don't want to talk to Dr. Mike or I don't want to talk to anybody else because my position is, I'm not good because somebody else is bad. Would you guys ever have a sit down and chat about it? Or do you guys love to sit down and chat about his position on Ma? I think looking at Bobby Kennedy's agenda and what has happened in the first year of this administration is probably the most demonstrative shift that we are going to see in public policy. It is going to majorly shift the chronic disease pandemic that we have in this country because we spend five trillion dollars a year on healthcare. And we are the sickest, fatdest, most disease-red nation in the world. We lead the world in morbid obesity, type 2 diabetes, multiple chronic disease in a single biome, infant mortality in civilized world, maternal mortality, and we're spending five trillion dollars a year. 74% of our nutritional research is funded by big food and big pharma. So what do you think we had a food pyramid that said that Lucky Charms was more nutritious than grass-fed steak? That's crazy. It's crazy. Get there. How did we get to a place where that's profit system? There's so much money in maintaining disease and managing symptoms. Because of the cure, then there's nothing. No money in cure. It's gross that somebody even saw that chart. 75 years, you name a pharmaceutical company that's cured of single disease. Yeah, they won't. One disease. So, you know, food is medicine. Community and connection are medicine. Faith is medicine. It's truly medicine. You know, one of the things in the blue zones that people rarely talk about was there were some non-exchangeables. There were some non-negotiables in all of these zones where people were living the longest. There's a sense of community, purpose, and mobility into later in life. We don't talk a lot about those. I mean, faith is medicine. When you get on your knees and you are humbled before higher power, and you believe that you are in service to something greater than yourself, that is medicine. And we think that connection comes through like our iPhones and our iPads, and it doesn't. Connection comes from human connection, having a sense of community. In blue zones, there's no such thing as assisted care living facilities. The assisted care living is mom and dad move back in with their sons and daughters until the day they die. And maybe their only role is to go get vegetables out of the garden for dinner that night, but they have a purpose. And that is such a powerful thing that we are absent in society. We are the most disconnected that we have ever been. And my connection, I mean, real true human connection. This is medicine. People feel like they lack purpose, they lack community, they lack connection. And when that happens, our cellular biology takes an absolute nose dive. We knew in the mortality space. I used to study mortality for a living. And we knew in the mortality space that if you wanted to cut a human being's life expectancy in half, and I mean in half at any age, put them in isolation. We have all hard to broken heart syndrome, right? Probably had grandparents or great grandparents that, you know, they're married 40, 50, 60 years. What happens when one spouse dies? The other spouse goes very quickly. My grandmother. There you go. You're grandmother. Days, days. Okay. So what changed? Isolation. Yeah. It is the most detrimental thing to our human body. In the gospel, when Jesus is healing, He always says this one thing to all of them and He says it is as your faith. When He tells the soldier that His man is healed, He says go, your faith is healed him. When the woman touches him and He goes, I knew if I just touched you, He said it was your faith that healed you. So having faith has a huge healing property to it. Can I unpack your relationship with Jesus? Like how did you come into your faith and what is it done for your life? So I was actually raised Roman Catholic. And for my, most of my young life, I had no connection to the church. I didn't feel the presence of faith. It was very ritualistic to me. My father, Captain John Brockett, by the grace of God, both my parents were still living. He was a military captain. So very regimented. Like he ate breakfast at O600. He ate lunch at noon. Like if you wanted to put a hit on my dad, like 6 AM, not 5.59, not 6.01, he's sitting in the same spot. He thinks so. It's like, you want to whack my dad? He was like, "Dubri, decision got in missiles." Like 6 AM, noon, 6 PM, right? Family dinner is non-negotiable. Elbow's on the table. He would smack me at the table. And so he was like, in fact, to this day, I'm 55 years old. And I can feel when I start to put my elbows up and lean on the table. I'm in the smack. I'm in the smack them 40 years, dude. But I can still feel so. And it would just be like a little tap. But so we would get up on Sunday morning, I would put a suit on. And it was always before I wanted to wake up. Oh God, I want to sleep. And then we would get in the car. We'd drive to Arleigh, a Saras church. We would stand up, sit down, stand up, sit down. We'd get community and take the with you, peace be with you. And I would listen to the sermon. It was usually a little bit of condemnation. Some of our sermons weren't Latin. And then we would leave. And we would have a really shitty coffee in donuts. We'd get back in the car and go home. And so when I got into college, I got as far with my faith as possible. And then a lawyer of mine tricked me and to going to a promise keeper's convention. I don't even know if promise keepers has still around. But it was a Christian men's movement. And it was called promise keepers. It was massive. And they would fill stadiums full of Christian men. It was a Christian men's movement. And he took me to a promise keeper's convention in soldier field. This before soldier field was even renovated in Chicago when I was in graduate school. And there was a moment when 70,000 men joined hands and said the Lord's Prayer. And I knew the Lord's Prayer because I had to say to myself that one I had down. Oh, praise God. And I started saying the Lord's Prayer and I'm getting goosebumps all over my body right now. The Holy Spirit just from heaven shot down like a dove, huh? Brother, 70,000 men echoing that from soldier field holding hands. My whole I got goosebumps from head to toe. I started bawling like a child. I didn't know why. I just started crying. And the pastor was down at the stage and saying, you know, you could come down and give your life to Christ. I didn't even know what it was about. But I was like felt compelled to do it. And I feel like emotional right now and I went down to the stage and I just got on my knees and I repeated after the pastor and I just gave my life to Christ. And I don't want to say that. that I became this incredible like God fear and Christian man from that day forward. No, but the relationship that comes. But what I loved about that moment and every moment sense was that I didn't need an institution, I didn't need a church, I didn't need other people around to see me pray or express my faith. I could have a direct relationship with Jesus Christ. Yeah, amen. And I could lay my problems at the foot of the cross. And so I developed a very private, what I would call a private relationship with Jesus. And prayer and sending in silence is a part of every morning for me. And prayer started as like my wish list to Santa Claus. Like, you know, you're like a Christmas list. Here's all the shit I need. Hey, Lord, you listening, I got a bag on a lot of stuff. If you're paying, you're here. Here's what I need. Ask him, you shall receive, right? Ask it. Yeah, it was great. And, but it has morphed into me just taking that moment to truly give thanks. Praise God. And it's caused me to focus on what I have and not what I want. And it's, I truly believe it is what's brought me closer to my family. You know, the greatest blessing that God ever bestowed upon me is, is deep meaningful relationship with my children. So my relationship with my children has improved. They all work for me. They work in the same company. That hydrogen company is my sons. He's an incredible endurance athlete. My daughter has a chemical freak skincare line. She's doing my youngest is in college. And my very youngest just graduated straight from high school. And both and they're and they're all moving into the business. You know, and they all eat clean. They all move their bodies. They're all super committed to this space because we, because I was able to take science and make it really cool. Yeah. But they also are all very, very strong in faith. You know, that's the best. Every time we board a flight, put our hands on the nose of the plane, we pray together. We give thanks at every meal. We, you know, in the mornings, I'm just silent, which was also a very difficult thing for me, like just to sit in silence. I think it's, I think it's difficult for most of us to truly be still. And so I take that moment of stillness and I'm just, I isolate the things in my life that I'm very grateful for. And I just give thanks for those. And I never pray for knowledge or pray for wisdom. Yeah. That's good. Because I want God to use my message as a vehicle for good. And I want to make an impact on humanity. And I want to do his will. So I pray that I do his will. And I pray that I pray for wisdom. And I try to educate myself, which I would call knowledge. But I pray for wisdom. Like, how do I take this knowledge and let it flow through me to impact as many people as possible? Because I believe that the information doesn't belong to me. It belongs to humanity. Oh man. Yeah. It's a blessing to have it flow through you. I have this conversation with people all the time. I don't, I think depression and all anything underneath the umbrella can all be healed with just the relationship with Jesus. Because for example, me even wanting to heal my body, right? And instead of being lazy or just sitting into my own schmuck and telling myself, oh, this is fine. Anybody would be doing this if it was me or whatever, right? The reason I even wanted to change my body is because first, there's a spirit. And the spirit renews my mind. That portion of the renewal of the mind is, it's more life changing than any medication, any supplement, anything to do. It is, it's being born again. You know, I knew creature and you see things with a different eye. Like, I've caught myself when things would be very, very tough. I look at it like this is an opportunity for me to praise God. Yeah. And I would watch my neighbors turn to me and be like, hey, dude, you're different. Like small things used to shatter you. And now you look at a huge mountain and roll up your sleeves because it's no longer alone. I don't feel alone. I feel like there's a mighty God behind you. You're in connection. Oh, that connection is medicine. It truly is. If you believe in the universal law of attraction, right? What you're believing in is a sensitivity to frequency. We call this intuition. Like we say, women are more intuitive. Right? But that's not true. Women are more sensitive to frequency. And, you know, if you look at what frequency leads our body, it's very important. You will attract. There's a law in physics. And it's called constructive interference. And there's one another law called destructive interference. What the law of constructive interference says is that if two frequencies of equal wavelength meet, the size of the frequency doubles. This is why you can get energy from conversation. This is why you can get energy from other people. This is also why people can suck the energy out of you. Yeah. Because destructive interference says two frequencies of opposite wavelength meet, they cancel out. Right? So, you know, I call them a sucky bus. Right? I mean, you. That's what. I'm gonna show you that. I don't think so. Yeah, that means a sucky bus. It means a sucky bus. But it won't even be a sign for sure. It can't even be a sign for sure. It can be one person out of a group of six. And it just. Because your wavelength is like this, and their wavelength is the absolute opposite, and negative Nancy's can literally suck the life out of you. And there's science behind this, too. There's something called the Spain scale of emotions, the scale of positive and negative emotion. And if you look at the amplitude of different frequencies that leave the body, the highest amplitude frequency to leave a human being's body is the frequency of authenticity. And this frequency only occurs when your words are truthful. And you believe what you're saying. So both of those need to be true. And this is why when you meet someone who is very authentic, you're attracted to them. I don't mean physically attracted to them. You're just attracted to that person. Women are very sensitive to this. They're very sensitive. You'll say for. Yeah, they're. But when someone is inauthentic, like they can't put a finger on it, they're like, "I don't like that guy." Yeah. There's something. I don't know. We should do business with them. Yeah, yeah. Something up. And you and I will be like, because we're men, and we're actually taught to suppress that. We'll be like, "Who?" "Who?" "Who's in his shoes? He had nice shoes." "Hold up in a Ferrari." "You see that suit? Fit like a glove?" "I'm definitely going to do this deal." And then six months later, you're pulling the knife out of your back. And she's like, "I told you. I told you I didn't like that guy." You didn't like his vibration. I don't know. Yeah. So something was off. It's that sensitivity to frequency. That is the universal law of attraction. And so authenticity is this very, very powerful frequency. And they can repel and it can attract. And so when we fight those emotions, what we would call intuition, which is our body's sensitivity to frequency, it usually has detrimental consequences. Right? That's why you're. When we talk about our environment, you know, your environment is not just the area you breathe and the water you drink in the food, you eat your environment and the people you surround yourself with. And a lot of us will keep toxicity in our environment. You know, it's the old adage that when a fish gets sick, you clean the tank. That's the first thing we do. Yeah. Right? But we don't consider the environment when human beings get sick. You know, we don't take the fish out of the tank, mess with the fish and throw it back in a dirty tank. We can see that the water is cloudy. We can see the algae overgrowth. We can see that this is why he's sick. Human beings get sick from that same kind of environment. They get sick from being around frequency that is not feeding their cellular biology. They get sick by not having faith. And I'm not professing that everybody has to have a relationship with Jesus. I think that. I am. I mean, but, you know, Muslims, Christians, Jews, Buddhists, there is a belief that there is a higher power. Right? And that you need to live a life of service, not a life of significance. The significance will come. You know, I had a very detrimental period of my life looking back where I was very inauthentic. I was big in self-service. I was very narcissistic. I just wanted to be wealthy. And yet I wasn't accumulating any wealth. I was very inauthentic. And years ago, about 10 years ago, 12 years ago, when I decided that I was going to give up that career and just spend the rest of my life trying to help people live healthier, happier, longer, more fulfilling lives, that's when everything changed. That's when I became wealthy. That's when my relationship with my spouse deepened, the relationship with my faith deepened, my relationship with my children deepened. I'm the most deeply content that I've ever been in my life. Wow. So this, because you started out your career where you were estimating how long it's going to take for somebody to die. Yeah. And this was prior to your relationship with Jesus. And then you found a relationship with him. And you took your career and you were like, how can I make this something positive and good? Wow, that's so beautiful. And so then how did you end up making that decision to completely flip your career and how did you find a way to take that what you felt was bad and make it into good? You know, I think I had a, I had a period where I just took radical responsibility for my life up to that point. I actually had a friend and he was big into like the Tony Robbins and Neuralinguistic Programming and big [BLANK_AUDIO] in the self-help motivation and had me do this exercise, which was really profound for me. And he said, you know, write down your resume virtues. Like, what makes you who you are? What's your background, your education? What are your degrees? You know, what are you really good at? Why should somebody hire you? What makes you special? And then write your eulogy virtues. Write your eulogy. How would your eulogy read? If you could actually deliver your eulogy. And he says, dark, it was super dark. Also like it's hilarious. He's like, you're measuring people's death. And then he asked you to measure your. Yeah, you're like, yeah, yo, my man's. He's like, first of all, who's gonna deliver it? And then write it. As if you were gonna hand it to him. And dude, I get emotional thinking about it because for me, I was like, wow. I'm really fucked up. You know, I've been a bad partner. I've been a bad husband. I've been a bad father. I'm actually not the person that I would actually like to hang around. Oh. And humbling, I realized that my divorce, my bankruptcy, all the litigation that I had had, failed partnerships. That was my responsibility. Like those were solely because of actions that I chose to take. And until that point, I never accepted responsibility for any of those things. I always thought that I just had a spouse that didn't understand me. I had partners that wanted to screw me over. I had people that just wanted to. You know, it was always somebody else. But yet these patterns kept repeating. You know, I had litigation in my career. I had divorce. I had a bankruptcy. And I just took radical responsibility for that. And that's a hard exercise to go through. I would actually encourage people to do that if they really want to find their purpose. I hope that you'll find your pain. Yeah. You find where it hurts and then you press on it. But you know what I realized you sang. And I don't even think you noticed it. But you went from being a victim to serving. Yeah. That's why she says, why are you so busy worrying about his plank in your eye? When we have a whole lot of stuff in yours. So when you go, oh, I thought it was my partner. I thought it was this. I thought it was that. And then your brain goes, oh, I don't like this characteristics. Let me work on me. I mean, just stay here. And then when it comes to my neighbors, let me serve them. Hey, how can I serve you? And then through that, you become who you want to be. And then also you draw in the people that are like this. Yeah. So. And I feel like everything changes when you do that. Like my whole perspective on everything changed. Like right now, I don't view people or products or companies that can take a dollar out of my pocket as a competitor. I view competition as people that are on a different mission than I am that are not in service to humanity. So like I will shout out my competitors all the time on podcasts and stage talks and lectures and interviews. And sometimes like symbiotic up, you know, they're sublime manufacturer. And I never had a affiliate deal with them. But I would always shout their products out. I would always put them in my challenges. And their founder would call me all the time. Shahab, he's like, dude, you want an affiliate link? Like who are we? Who are we? Like we shot your code, bad. He was like, why are you doing this for us? And I'm like, because you guys make great products that really do work. And I was like, so we're on the same team. Even though I don't make money from what you do, you know, you don't have to pay me to be on the same mission. And it's like, it's just all this air comes out of the balloon. Like, you know, I spoke at a conference in London like a year ago, a little less than a year ago. And I was like the keynote speaker. And they put me at the end to kind of drag people to the last part of this event. And so I got there a few hours early. And so I was like, I was just going to walk the trade show floor. And so I started walking the trade show floor. And I would go into one booth and like this guy that's all red light beds spent the first 15 minutes telling me what a scam artist and Derbag, his competitor was because they lied about this and they fake this test and they lied about that. And they're not really third party tested. And I left that booth and I went into like some supplement booth. And that person probably spent the first five or six minutes telling me what trash supplements their other competitor had with binders and fillers. And then I went to one that had like toothpaste and they were telling me that kind of the hydroxyapatite is not like ours. I was just different and they suck and we're good. And by the time I'd walk this trade show booth, you know, trade show floor, I got to the end. And I was like, thank God I'm not a consumer. It's right. Because I would think everybody was just a giant scum back. Yeah, I bet. And car salesman's. Yeah. And I got up on the stage that day. I didn't even pull up my slides. I had a whole different speech prepared. And I was like, guys, the pandemic gave us the greatest opportunity. All of us, everybody in this room of our lifetime. Because the consumer's behavior has shifted. Like for the first time, people are becoming citizen scientists and they want what we offer. And if we spend our time fighting inside of the castle walls, like just destroying each other, saying that I'm only good because somebody else is bad. I'm great because you're a scumbag. They're a lot of the houses dividing. Yeah. We're going to destroy ourselves. There are plenty of enemies outside of this wall that are not in service to humanity. They're not doing the right thing. They don't care about what's going into the bodies of these people. They don't care about their cellular biology. They're just there to profit. Yeah. But I feel like the people that are on this anti-aging and longevity and wellness boom right now, we're all in the same team. We should shout out our competition. We should be in service to each other. Because that's going to help our industry. That's why I get so upset when we just really attack each other and try to elevate ourselves by, you know, what does the Bible say? You can't make a weak man strong by making a strong man weak, right? And so I gave that. I just feel compelled to give this whole talk about how we just need to stop that kind of nonsense. And we need to support each other. And you have to decide is competition somebody that can take a dollar out of your pocket or is competition somebody that is on a different mission than you are. And I would argue that competition is somebody that's on a different mission than you are. And if we could bring the industry together like that, the tide would raise all of our boats. This is supposed to be an eight trillion dollar industry in the next 10 years. There's plenty to go around. There are more people that need us than there are people to serve them. Yeah. So I don't know how I got down that path. No, but this is brilliant because he falls into all categories. No, no, no, it falls into all categories. Like even Christian brothers will be like, no, I worship God better than you. Exactly. And then instead of us sharing the gospel, we're like fighting each other on who worships God more. And then all the other people that don't want these issues do with Jesus, they're like, well, what I want to be a part of you guys, you guys are just fighting. I was just in caffeine. That this through you, it's like, let's stop you guys. I mean, we have a direct relationship. Banked. Yeah, I totally agree with that. I've never really struggled around thinking about, you know, like, what am I considered? What's my category? Where do I fall into this? I've only really looked at it. I was like, well, I'm just developing this relationship with God and learning. And then he's going to direct my fetus to where I need to be. And I just need to go back to his work. Yeah, I don't think I need to. Bad you have to wear a beach or chest and say, look, how would a good person I am. Yeah, I mean, you know, I mean, in fact, I think that if you're really having a relationship, it's kind of like, look how big of a piece of shit I am. Like, yeah, more, I hang out with the Jesus. I don't want to be in these private conversations here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I still a lot of soul surgeon going on. Also, I think like at the end of the day, man, like when Jesus comes back, I think there's going to be Catholics, there's going to be Baptisticity, all this. And they won't be named the certain thing. They'll just be named the ones who are following Jesus. Yeah, you know, I think it's just the people that are following Jesus major spiritual work going on. And not just our country, but around the world right now. It's almost like a good versus evil. You know, I see the work that Bobby Kennedy is doing. I know Bobby very, very well. He is one of the most purpose driven, passionate people. I mean, he prayed for this position for 20 years before he got this position. He is not there. I love having a conversation and I take vaccines away from people. He's not there to harm your children. He's not there to divide America. He's not there to take away freedom of choice. But by reducing vaccine mandates, for example, he's giving us personal control. Like your decisions should be between you and your physician and your family. What goes into your kids? What goes into your bodies? You know, those people that preach my body, my choice, where are you on medical freedom? And why are you, no, everybody should take the same vaccine on the same schedule. All 79 vaccines over a lifetime, 18 before you're 18 months old. An appetite is vaccine right out of the gate. Even though it's only, you know, four sexually transmitted diseases and intravenous drug use. And, and, and then there are on the other side, saying it's my body, my choice, but on the other side, they're saying, no, the government should dictate everything that goes into our bodies. Fascinating. You know, it's like there's this dichotomy, right? And they're, oh, they're always the victim. Yeah, always. Can't take this away from us. Yeah. If you want to take it, it's no, it's taking it away from you. We, we, we had 28 states that, that got on board to eliminate high sugary sodas from the snap food program. The snap food program is the food stamp program. Yeah. Yeah. Nutrition Assistance Program. That's what it is. It's to supplement nutrition. It's for assistance with nutrition. It's not just the supplemental money program. It's not just where we give you the cash and you go buy vape pens and alcohol and high sugar reset is no. It's to supplement your nutrition. In fact, if you're really in service to humanity, the least among us are the ones that need it the most. So by actually removing high sugar reset is and saying you can spend it on nutrient dense foods, that's in service to humanity. That's flipping the food pyramid, changing the nutritional guidelines. I mean, this will be in every kindergarten classroom in the country. This will shape government procurement. This will shape what goes into our public school food programs. Because if you look at 42% of our pre-pubescent teens have one chronic disease, 42%. I mean, the rates of pre-diabetes in young children is almost 50%. These are new world problems that we're based on, the lack of nutrition in our food. And so I think some of these sweeping legislative changes that have happened at Health and Human Services, the CDC, the US FDA, are so incredible. They are going to have Dimash have impact on the health of humanity and America over the next few years. Do you think it's the portions or is it the things that they're eating that change? Well, it's both. I mean, if you ever give a different Paris or you've ever been into France or Europe and you look at European portions of food, they're a fraction of what we are now. In America, it's bigger is better. And if you go to some of these chain restaurants, it's like that piece of steak is this big, the big baked potato looks like a watermelon. And it's our cream with cheese. And so the volume of food that we eat is one issue. But the other issue is highly processed food is specifically designed to hijack our biology. So we make GLP1s in our gut. So GLP1 is a peptide that we make in our gut. So Ozempik, Wagovie, Manjaro, that are GLP1 medications that are all the rage right now. They're mimicking a hormone that we make naturally in our gut. And how do we make it? We make it in response to nutrient density. So if you're eating non-nutrient dense foods, you will eat a lot more of them. You can eat four boxes of Oreos. You can't eat your way through four avocados. Right. So I sit down and skin four avocados and just eat four of those. You'll start to gag because the density, the nutrient density is so, so much. But when food is chemically engineered to not raise GLP1, why do you think that is? So you will eat more of it. Right. They have bliss points that are designed in the lab to actually meet that perfect like satiation and bliss point. So like you can put a Dorito in your mouth and say, bam, the taste buds come alive because they're chemically stimulated in a way that natural foods don't. And so your palate changes. So the food industry is, which really was born from the tobacco industry, the biggest mergers in corporate history were in the '90s and was tobacco companies acquiring food companies and they took that same addictive science and applied it to food. Well, what? Yeah. So when cigarette started to getting hammered out by dare programs and all these other things, that's when they were like, oh, we'll jump ship and we'll go in the direction. Yes, cigarette companies started to acquire food companies. Talk to me about cereal because when I was a kid, abs, it was so funny how they were saying, oh, like this kid can't focus. But I have full, like I have bowls of cereal and it's all sugar. It's all sugar and folic acid. So grains and cereals are some of that, first of all, they're some of the most genetically modified crops. Right? So the body doesn't recognize a lot of these and draw nutrition from them. They're not only the most genetically modified, they're the most highly sprayed with glyphosate and periquot, these insecticides, pesticides, herbicides. You know, think about the fact that chem China, which is a chemical company in China, makes an insecticide called periquot. Okay, it is a felony to spray crops with periquot in China. So if you spray crops with periquot in China, you can go to prison. So they exported to the US. And then what we were about to do, but the Maha movement killed it, was we were about to give broad immunity to these chemical companies so that they could be held harmless from known harm, from knowingly causing harm. So you spray all these chemicals onto our foods and then cereals and grains are the most heavily modified, genetically modified and the most heavily sprayed with these toxins. And then we take those and then we spray them with sugars, generally high-protus corn, serps, and other high glycemic sugars. And we make them crunchy and palpable. So they're really enticing and then we make them colorful with dyes. So they're really, I mean, I visually appealing for kids. I mean, it's engineered to create addiction. And half of the children in our country have this gene mutation, MTHFR. And what are they eating in the morning? The most folic acid dense foods, they're eating white bagels, poptarts, serials, grains. All of this is hijacking their cellular biology. If you're a mother or father, and you're listening to this, and it's a full context board to get your kid in the car to go to school in the morning, for one week, take all the fortified or enriched foods out of their diet. And I'm not even saying they can eat cereal. They just have to eat non-fortified, non-enriched cereal. I'm not saying that they can eat breads, just eat non-fortified, non-enriched breads. Get the folic acid out of their diet one week and see if you don't have a completely different child in the house. - That's okay, dude. I've heard people taking out red dyes and they're like, oh, this is a different child. - Yes. - That is insanity. - That's insanity. - That's insanity. - It's petroleum. Petroleum. We make gasoline from, right? They're sort of petroleum-based dyes. I mean, they're high jack our cellular biology. They cause a lot of oxidation. And so we eliminated red dye number four, which was the most toxic. And so you see, this, you know, back to the Mahal movement for a second, even McDonald's recently announced they're gonna stop frying things in seed oils and they're switching to beeftella. - Again? - Yeah. 'Cause they started that way. - Yeah, no they didn't start. - Well, they started. - Yeah. - And then they went to seed oil. - Yeah. - Canola oil. And then they, and now they're back to Tallow. I mean, now am I saying that's gonna make all McDonald's highly nutritious? No, but that is a major step forward. - Right, yeah. - Right. - Because these oils are really like it. They're rancid, they're putrified. They're de-gummed with hexane. They're de-odorized with sodium hydroxide. Hexane is a powerful neurotoxin. Sodium hydroxide is a powerful carcinogen. They're rancid. And then we're just piling these foods that are fried in these rancid seed oils into our body. That's starting to shift. We're not saying you can't eat fast food, but you can't tell the difference between a french fry fried and canola oil and a french fry fried and Tallow, but they're materially different with what they do. They're cellular biology. - How do you feel about sourdough? - I'm a huge fan of sourdough. - Yeah, you do. - I'm the only form of bread, I guess, that I eat. - So what is it that makes sourdough, okay? And then like the regular, 'cause they say the wider the dead are, the wider the bread, the faster you're dead. I think that's us saying. So white bread is enriched bleach flour. So it's bleached. - And now when they say bleach, are they actually talking about bleach bleach? - Bleached bleach. Yes, bleach bleach. - It sounds like a joke. Like when you hear this out loud, it kind of sounds like there's somebody in the kitchen that they're like, how do we kill these kids? And they're like, all right, we're not getting old enough. - Quickly. - Let's try bleach slowly. - Right, right. Because the money is in the food leading to the medicine, right? And so you don't wanna create so death, you wanna create sort of a long agonizing chronic condition that you can manage, right? So you wanna create a lot of information so you can manage with an anti-inflammatory. You wanna create a lot of gut dysbiosis so you can manage the mental illness that comes from that. - And so it's taking vitamins and supplements, the same way of like putting a bandit on or is that completely a different thing? - No, I think it's a completely different thing. I am a fan of supplementing for deficiency, a huge, huge fan of supplementing for deficiency. You know, if you have anxiousness, anxiety, ADD or ADHD, we're OCD. And for seven days, you supplement it with a B complex, just take a B complex. Add something called methyl folate. Methyl folate. - Is it that blue thing that people have dripping in? - No, that's methylene blue. I'm a fan of that as well, but methylene blue is something that actually helps the cell bring in more oxygen, changes the state of iron in the cell from a ferric state to a ferric state. It's really good for, in conjunction with red light therapy, methylene blue and red light therapy, those two put each other on steroids. And they drive oxygen into the mitochondria and help create more cellular energy. - So should it drink some methylene blue before doing red light? - You just take a small dose of methylene blue before doing red light. - Oh, okay. - We'll put that red light therapy on. - We'll lose my red light therapy. - Through red light therapy. - It's amazing. - Yeah. - Red light therapy is, you see, human beings are not powered by the food we eat. They are we eat through what are we drink. We're powered by one energy source. We're powered by an energy source called ATP. And it's made in a little battery in the cell called the mitochondria. And what this mitochondria does is it produces this form of energy, Denizen Triphos. And if you imagine a cell and you went inside the cell and you found this little battery, this mitochondria, and you went into the mitochondria and you said, "How is this thing working?" Well, there's a motor in there and it's spinning around and it's called the Krebs cycle. And every time this motor makes one revolution, it has two choices. It can create two units of energy. So it makes one revolution. It can create two units of energy, two ATP. Or it can make one revolution and create 36 units of energy. So what's the difference between whether or not this motor makes 16 times more energy or 16 times less energy? The presence of oxygen. If oxygen enters the cycle, a aerobic respiration, you create 36 units of energy. If carbon dioxide enters the cycle and aerobic respiration, you create two units of energy. And the reason why I say that is because what Red Light Therapy does is certain wavelengths of light, they actually pass through the cell wall, they pass through the wall of the mitochondria, and they kick out a gas in the mitochondria, called mitochondrial mitocondria, nitro oxide, and force oxygen to dock. So this happens at one of the stages of the Krebs cycle called cytochrome COxidase. But the outcome of this is, red light therapy kicks out one gas, nitro oxide, and forces oxygen into the mitochondria. So what happens then? 16-fold step up in cellular energy. It's literally like a battery charger for yourselves. I'm a huge, huge fan of red light therapy. So what about, I'm sorry, I don't want to forget. Yeah. What about oxygen chambers? Hyperbarics are also excellent. So hyperbarics will take, you know, the atmospheric oxygen we're breathing right now is about 21%. So the air we're breathing now is 21% of the air's oxygen. If you go in a hyperbaric chamber and you go to two atmospheres, double the atmospheric pressure, you'll be at 42% oxygen, twice the amount of oxygen, and it makes the oxygen molecule smaller. So it perfuses tissues that normally don't get a lot of oxygen. This is why if you want to heal from surgery, from a ligament, from a tendon injury, from a sprain, hyperbarics will accelerate that healing process because you're forcing oxygen into tissues that don't get a lot of oxygen. So every time you go 33 feet below sea level, like if you're a scuba diver or anybody that scuba does, you'll know this, when you go 33 feet below sea level, the atmospheric pressure doubles. If you go 33 more feet, it'll double again. It'll double again. It'll double again. So more pressure. So this makes the gas molecule smaller so they get places they normally wouldn't get. So it helps with healing. It helps with cognitive function. It's a great longevity tool. That's why a lot of our just partner, Rituni Robbins, and a franchise called SQL, to try to bring, to try to bring social wellness to the masses. So social wellness are these places like Remedy Place, which is amazing. They're New York City, Boston, they're phenomenal. But the masses at scale don't have access to red light therapy, cold plunges, so on us. You know, vibration shake plates that help train lymphatics. So what I'm trying to do is put 600 of these around the country and bring social wellness to like mobile Alabama, you know, outside of Tennessee. And which tall Wisconsin? And bring this down to the masses so it's affordable for people to have access to things like red light therapy and cold plunging and so on us. And create a sense of community and connection about around something other than like drugs and alcohol. But you know around actually. That's so good. Feeling good. That's so good because it's hard to find access. You either don't know about the information, so you just don't know, don't know. You don't know where to go to get it. It's expensive. It's super specialized. So that's amazing. Yeah. And I hate to make this about me, but I just ask. I have to ask because like dude, it's just sounds so bad, but I know that there's other people that deal with this is when I get into this workout phase. I found this pattern of myself where I'm eating clean, I workout, I feel good. During the soreness and the building of my tissues, I get so cramped up and and and so much pain that I have to either stretch every hour of the day. And then all of a sudden out of nowhere, I injure myself. I pull something in my bag, something with my sciatica fat boy problems. Yeah. And so then I knock myself out, then I rest. Guess what happens when I rest? I'm eating, I was sitting on the couch because I can't do anything. So I found this circle of like horseshit that I'm in. How do I, how do I get myself to stop getting injured and so sore that I can't even carry on to my next type of workouts? So I would start every morning. So if you work out in a fasted state, I would take all nine essential amino acids in the morning because if you take the essential amino acids, they will not break a fast. I take something called perfect aminos. You don't have that that bottles like the colorful bottles. It's it comes in a powder also comes in a excuse me comes in a tablet. But it's all nine essential amino acids and amino acids are not proteins. Amino acids are the building blocks of proteins. So from amino acids, you can build muscle, you can build natural killer cells, you can build all connective tissue, you can build all the collagen, elastin, fiber. And you can build all of these different tissues in the body. Like if you, if you're interested in your hair skin and nails, take essential amino acids, right? We can't target direct protein in the body. So we don't eat our nails to grow our nails. So we don't eat our hair to grow our hair. But we think we can eat collagen to grow collagen. It's actually not true. Collagen like any other protein will become exactly the same thing. It will be broken down into amino acids. Then those amino acids will go build collagen, elastin, fiber and the build muscle. Collagen is actually an incomplete protein. You can't even build muscle from collagen because it's missing certain essential amino acids. So nine of the amino acids are called essential because they're essential for life. If you don't get these non essential amino acids, you would eventually die. There are two essential fatty acids. So there's fatty acids, fats that are essential for life. Perimino acids that are essential for life. There is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate. Just marinade on that per second. Charlie Kirk told me this. Charlie Kirk told you that there is an important thing. The way that they built the pyramid made it seem like we need carbohydrates. Yeah. But it's actually a lie. Yeah. He said we need to blow up the pyramid because it's, that's what causes a lot of down around. I was a friend of Charlie's too. I keynoteed one of his events. So I take all nine essential amino acids that I would encourage you to do the same. I would take a mineral salt. I take one called Baja Gold. But you don't have to take that one. It's probably my favorite biohack because of $15 bag of this mineral salt will last you five years. Maybe that's a couple years anyway. Do you do it where you put it underneath your tongue? You just put it underneath the tongue. They make a liquid version. So I take a ten ounce glass of water, a squeeze, two droppers of a mineral salt. I put a scoop of perfect amino in there and I throw in two hydrogen tablets. These are the elemental magnesium tablets that effervesce into hydrogen gas. Hydrogen's impact on what you're exactly what you're talking about, which is called doms, the laid on set muscle sortness, how slowly your muscles recover after exercise is non-questionable. And the research is absolutely clear on the impact that hydrogen has as a selective antioxidant in the human body. Circulation, inflammation, warding off of delayed onset muscle soreness, improving transmission times in the brain, short-term recall, focus, concentration. Is that what this does? That's what that does. Where can I find some of this? Those are called H2 tab. You can get them at drinkh2tab.com. Do they have a little licks? Are you doing them morning? Yes, what I do every morning. Every morning? Every morning. Did you do something to your head when you first took it? Yes. Okay, when you were talking to me, it was like a few minutes, maybe ten minutes after I drank it. I was like, "What I got to pee into, I feel like someone shook my head." Yes. And there was like fizzing going out of my head and I was like, "Inflammation just airbrains." Yes. Okay, so that's normal? That's very normal. Okay, good. And then you're going to feel like you're going to feel awake and clear. And I wish I would have taken it like 30 minutes before this because right now I'm going to. Yeah, you're on, right? Damn it. That's nice. That's it. Licks coming on. And it is hydrogen. 10% of your body weight is hydrogen. So if I smoke a jet, I drink that right away. Yes. I was just like, "All right, before we land the plane." Oh, wait. Okay, sorry. You're landing? No, no, no, no, I can't land now after you just said, wait. Before you land, hold up. Yeah. That's a specific question, but if you want to try this and go, "Cuz in the. " So yeah, for the last three weeks we've been taking the row. We've been doing the reverse control, the gluteus ion and the NED plus. And we take all three at the same time. That's fine. With a shot of pomegranate juice. That's okay. That's fine. Should it take it before, after this fizzy elixir? So what I would do is, if you work out in a fasted state. Yes, I do. You absolutely should take all nine essential amino acids, right? It's equivalent to 29 grams of way protein, but it does not break it fast. Okay. So, you don't want to break down lean muscle, you want to burn fat. And so, I do that every single morning, like clockwork. So that's the way that I start today. And I would take those after you exercise. Got it. Okay. And is it bad that I drink coffee right after I've taken it? No. Not at all. I'm a huge fan of coffee actually. I mean, there are a lot of benefits to coffee. You know, slightly delaying your coffee, if you can do it for 16 to 90 minutes in the morning, it will make it a lot more effective. - Right, I heard you'd all love this. - Yeah, but you know, it's what we put in the coffee, not. MCT oils are great. You know, I use whole milk or whole cream. I try to get raw milk and raw cream and honey. There's excellent things in your coffee. - I do honey. It depends how I'm feeling. I'm in the mood for it, but I'll do raw cacao powder and goat milk. - There's also a powdered cream we're called Alchemyne. And it comes in like a caramel flavor. It comes in a vanilla. I love the vanilla. And Alchemyne will actually reduce the acidity for the record. I do not have the old Alchemyne. Alchemyne will reduce the acidity of the coffee. It's got MCT oils in it. It's got enzymes in it. It's also nonchaloric. And it makes the coffee creamy. It gives it like either vanilla or mocha or caramel. - Is it dairy? - Flavor. There's no dairy in it. - Oh. - And it's non-dairy. - So what is it made from? Like what's the, what makes it creamy? - So it makes it creamy from MCT oils. Meaning it changed our glycerides. There are enzymes in there. And there are compounds that actually take the acid out of the coffee. They reduce the acidity of the coffee. So you still get the caffeine, you still get the taste. I personally like coffee a little creamy. But a lot of people drink black coffee, which is fine too. Remember though the coffee is a major source of mold toxicity. So it has a type of toxin, mold toxin called ochre toxin A. And a lot of people will see this in their urine. And mold toxicity is a real thing. I mean, I live in the mold capital of the world, which is Miami Florida. - Oh bro. I know. Every time I'm in there I'm wet. - Yeah. - Yeah, see ya. - I bring it back to you before we head out of here. What is your chapter's looking like right now? Like what is your life looking like? You went, you blew up quick. And now everybody think God is like trying to listen to you take notes. We got crazy people that are athletics or more Tony Robbins or Steve Harvey. Like all these people are coming to you. It might be a little overwhelming. And you also have your own projects with your family and stuff. What does a life look like for you right now? - So for me, I'm trying to consciously live a life of service. So I heard John Maxwell talk about the difference between a life of significance and a life of service. And so I'm intentional. I'm trying to be as intentional as an authentic and intentional as I can with the information that I give out. I always want the information to be free. But as a capitalist, I'm trying to build the largest, biggest, wealthiest, most profitable companies that I think I partner with them and that I believe are in service to you, man. Everything from red light therapy to hydrogen inhalation, to supplementation, to even nutrition. My daughter is starting a chemical-free skincare line. It's made from grass-fed grass-finished beef tallow. So I'm acquiring the farm that's going to raise the cows and the chickens and the goats. And we're going to harvest the tallow from that farm. We're going to render the tallow. We're going to put that into skin care. So the next phase of my life is from a business standpoint, is trying to build wealth around companies that are in service to humanity. I have interest in 23 operating companies right now. I'm wrapping that into a healthcare fund so that I can raise capital and fund the inventory for companies like I invest, that makes these way to best, that I believe are biometrically the best vest to put on your body so you can do rocking. You can get more out of less time. So I have 23 of these different operating companies. And my intention is to blow those into very large, very wealthy, very profitable companies. I've also been a lot more intentional with my time. I did something this year called the Big-ass Calendar, which I got from Jesse Itzler, where my wife and I, between Christmas and New Year's, we took four days. So the day after Christmas, we have a little log cabin in Colorado. It's our favorite place in the world. So we went out there with the family and digital detoxed for four or five days. Just intentionally spent time with the family. And we designed our entire 2026 for the first time. And the first thing that went on there was family time. The next thing that went on there was vacations. The next thing that went on there were big audacious goals that we want to do. My son just did this. I did the Great World Race with my son, Seven Marathon, Seven Condent, Seven Days. He just did a hundred mile race here. Start off the year strong. Real strong. So I put those things onto the calendar first. And now I'm letting the staff fill in the rest of the calendar around those times. Because if not, you'll just get busy and the things that you care about the most will take a back seat. And so from a monetary standpoint, from a business standpoint, and that's what I'm doing. Opening a healthcare fund. And I'll take institutional money to help really grow and accelerate the exposure for these companies. And I hope that they become the biggest, most profitable companies in the world. So if you had to rewrite your eulogy, would you be in a lot better place? I've been a lot better place now. Is that what it's gift that God gives us that we get to like you know, you look back because imagine like that was your death better God for a bit. And you sat there and you don't have, I think people do find exit at that time. That was I think life is itself is such a it's such a thing to be grateful. Like you could be in a hole right now. And then if you have God fill it is like, oh, dude, it's insane. Yeah. You told me that you fly. One, why did you start flying? Because like that's what people ask me. And many I just want to be free. And then two, it's like, are you going to continue this? Or like, yeah, you know, I'm not as current as I would love to be. I'm, you know, because I'm busy, but that is one of my, it's on my list in 2026 because I miss it so much. And look, I'm a pretend pilot. I'm always VFR rated. I flew a single engine, brought planes. Hey, man. Don't know how to get down. I don't want to get too like myself. You know, still have your legs. Go myself and pretend pilot. But I flew a little plane called a DA40 XL, which is just a little composite, low-wing aircraft with a center stick. And I love that. It's called a constant speed. So the prop spins at the same speed and you vary the pitch of the prop. Yeah. You know, to either go faster or slower. And my whole life growing up, my father was a pilot. So he actually started in the Navy as a naval pilot. We lived near Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland. So I grew up right outside of Annapolis, Maryland. And my whole life, he was a, he was a president of the Arrow Club. And so we, we always flew these little cessinus. There's the, the high-wing cessinus. So everywhere we would go on vacation, he would always rent a, a cessinus. And he and my mom and I, I'm an only child. He and my mom and I would go up and we would see that place from the air. Like when we would go to Hawaii, he would run a plane. And we would fly the rim of these volcanoes. We would fly out over schools of, you know, whales when the whales were breaching. And I just remembered as a kid, it was just fascinating. It was just so cool. I would listen to the radio. I would always put the headset on. And I would always listen to my dad talking on the radio. And it just was such freedom. And it was just so unique. Yeah, we lived in Maryland. We were not a wealthy family by any means. My dad was a military captain. My mom also flight attendant. She worked for the airlines. But my grandparents had a vacation home and, and K-Patterist, North Carolina. And it was like a two-day drive. Or it was like, you know, a three-hour flight. And so we would rent these planes. And we'd, we'd, we'd fly to vacation. We would go there for the weekend. And so it just gave us so much freedom. I never forget that I didn't tell my father that I was getting my pilot's license. And he came, he came to see me in Naples one day. And I was like, "Dad, let's go to lunch." And he was like, "Oh, okay." And so I drove him. I drove him to the airfield. It's just such a cool moment. I drove him to the airfield and, you know, told him I had my pilot's license. And it was the first time that, you know, he and I been back in the airplane for, for 35 years. And so, you know, we took off and I flew him down to the keys for, for lunch. You know, we just flew down to Island Marauda and had lunch and flew back. And he was like the smile on his face. It was just amazing. I don't know why I'm so emotional and do that. I apologize, but you father me a lot. Yeah, very, oh my dad means everything to me. It's my hero. If you don't mind me asking, like, what was it like being a son of your father? So, you know, my dad taught me a lot. He was a, um, he was a disciplinarian. Uh-huh. But, like I had eight hours of chores on a Saturday. And it was printed. Now I understand why you're crying. It's taped to my, it was taped to my bedroom door. So, um, so we, we had a, um, so we on 12 acres in the middle of a 300 acre tobacco farm. And so I grew up, um, in grade school and high school, cutting tobacco, which is the hardest labor you will ever do in your life. And I knew one thing, uh, when I was young, I was like, I did not want to spend the rest of my life cutting tobacco. [laughs] And, um, and we grew in a wheat and soybean corn. and but I would wake up on Saturday morning and it would be like you have the bush hog around the barns, you have the mother grass, you have the weed whack to house. And I would start the morning on a bush hog and then I would go to a riding mower, then a push mower and then a weed whacker. And that took eight hours. And when that was done, I could go do my thing. So if I wanted to sleep in, it was all fine, but then I wouldn't be done till seven o'clock at night and then if I wanted to go hang out with my friends, you know, that had to go first. So I mean, when I look back on it, I mean, all my work ethic came for my father. And you know, he was militant about like dinner time was like a non-negotiable. So I had dinner with my parents every night at exactly six o'clock every night. You know, church on Sundays was non-negotiables. He was very structured and but he was also very present. You know, we did everything together as a family. So I'm very present for my kids now too. There's nothing that like I wouldn't have missed this hundred mile race with my son for anything. - Love that. - It's so beautiful. - It's cool when like I hear about success stories and I love hearing them. But to me, it's sad and it breaks my heart to say this, it's the most true thing to say. You can never out be or out work just having a beautiful family. - Yeah. - It's something that you can't trade it for. That's the reason why we moved to Arizona is 'cause I saw this Instagram and he goes, if your parents live out of state and you visit them and it's like once a year, then you only have like 10 years, 10 times to visit. Oh, sure that I heard that. I was buying real estate, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - He was like, what? - That country music song you can buy dirt, you know? - It means like what's worth like all this riches and all this things that we're trying to accumulate on this earth, if we have the people that we love, we're not gonna share with. - Yeah, I totally agree. All my kids are within my youngest two living me. My daughter is in the building right next to me. I keep teasing her that I'm gonna put a zip line in for my balcony to hers 'cause I get zip line right through my balcony. That's your cold plunge out there. Madison's right there. And she's a nurse. I mean, she's totally bought into the whole, you know, wellness lifestyle. And my son is like a mile away. So I get up in the mornings, I run over to his house. He's got a gym under his house, we crush her workout together. He's a me, him, Zach Efron, and my house manager, you know, whoever's working out with us that day. And then he does his extreme training. - Do you ever play high school musical? I guess we're gonna. - I should probably try that now. - I think you should. - Yeah, I'm gonna play it until I can actually - He's a funny, high school musical. He's a great hero. (singing) - He's like, turn that off. - He's a gangster dude. He's fit. - So, but. - I already has a great mindset too. - Great mindset. - He is an absolute gem of the human being. And he's crazy in the biohacking. He's in my hyperbolic chamber five days. - Hey man, I know. Anybody who looks at this man is like, and anytime you wanna tap them up, you just wish your wife is not anywhere near you. - Yeah. - At all. I did a brand deal for Baywatch. And I remember standing next to him and I was like, this guy even know what fat is. Like, and he was, as it was the interview, he goes, yeah, I hated being this shredded. I go, dude, everybody hated that you were that shredded. - Yeah, yeah, everybody hated it. - Wait, look in the mirror, remember. - Yeah. - And get that shredded. - Yeah. - Wait, did you say you have a hyperbolic chamber? - Mm-hmm. - I was a true obnoxious, yeah. - That's still sweet. - I was thinking of investing in one and getting one. Just because, - Start with a soft chamber. They're not, you know, insanely expensive. - Are they, but is it big of a difference? - Well, it'll get you to 1.3 atmospheres and it's a lot of benefits to that pressure. - Well, the question is, fly and gonna hurt me? - No, but you don't want to do a hyperbolic within 12 hours of flying. - I do. - Why? - You know, depending on the pressure, even eight hours of flying, 'cause remember, you know, in flying, you're going above sea levels to the bare-match pressures dropping in a hyperbolic pressure, you're increasing pressure. - Yeah. - So you're really just increasing that. - That's what I was saying, get it to be dangerous? - You think about, it can be dangerous. You know, so if you're young and healthy, probably very little danger, but I think most hyperbolic experts would say, don't fly within eight to 12 hours of having done a hyperbolic session, especially the two atmospheres. When you're on a commercial plane, and that plane's at 41,000 feet, you're at 8,000 feet. - Yeah, it's a little real, yeah, that pressure, as it is, it's a pressure, it's 8,000 feet. So if you fly from Miami to Los Angeles, you just sat and asked for five hours, right? - So most people think they're getting motion sickness, they're not getting altitude sickness. - Yeah. - Right? So you just be conscious of that. That's why it's so important to hydrate and mineralize on long flights, 'cause you have low bear-match pressure, or static elasticity of dry air, and sometimes less oxygen, and you're in the tube with a bunch of people. So, but eight to 12 hours after a flight by all means, hyperbolic session. - And actually, I want to ask you this earlier, but before I forget, so, because I think a lot of people get stuck on, you know, the quality of something, and then sometimes you get so overwhelmed with choices that you just are like, never mind. So how important is it when it comes to the quality of, for example, red light therapies, the shaking boards for lymphatic drainage? Like, you know, how expensive should they be? What's the difference between the quality of how they work? - Yeah, so I try to give a lot of recommendations for that stuff on my site, whether I have an affiliation with that company or not, I'm a psychopath about testing, because I've gotten myself in a really bad place by taking manufacturers' data as gospel, and then promoting that product and realizing that, they actually like. - Yeah. - And this is very true in red light therapy. You need, you need a few things. You need certain nanometer wavelengths that are therapeutic. So the wavelength of light matters. And then you need something called millawatts of irradiance. I mean, how hard is that life being driven? Right, you need about 30 to 35 millawatts of irradiance in order for it to be therapeutic light. Unless you're using a red light face mask, which is just for topical collagen, elastin, fiber, and little circulation in the face. But it'd be therapeutic. You need these millawatts of irradiance. And there are great beds out there. Hue light, spectra, arc. There are several manufacturers. I do our relationship with hue light. I don't want spectra and arc, but they make great, great beds. And so these are red light therapy beds that are very therapeutic. When we open these ultimate longevity centers, these centers where people can go and do these therapies, those red light beds will be very therapeutic. The only thing about shake plates and vibration plates is it's a very bad idea to rattle the body. So just vibrating the body is not a good idea. You want to move the body in a vertical plane, right? So like sonic and some of these shake plates only go in a vertical plane. That's what you want, right? That vertical motion, that creates-- - It doesn't do that. - It creates-- - How do you know that? 'Cause it goes like this. - Okay, so it's moving up and down, that's good. If it's sort of rattling sides aside, some of them should take-- - Just go, go. - You don't want to rattle the body. - Okay, that's what we call-- - Arz is a rattle, but-- - Well, you look like you're torquing for like 30 hours. (laughing) I love it when she's on her body. - Right, right. - I was like, "Hey, this, this hell-hack thing that you've been doing, and I really like it, it." - I'm just gonna sit here and take it in, you know? - I swear, it's so great. - Little perv on the bed. - But then that's correct, right? If it is, if you're going up and down, like your hips are going up and down, then that's good. - Yes, that's good. - So it is good. - Because what it's doing, it's putting-- - Concussive force through the body, right? - Oh, it is. - Which is actually, it's overloading the bones in a really short period of time, which is causing them to remineralize, making them more dense. That's good for osteophenia and osteoporosis. These shake plates have been shown to actually improve bone density. And women struggle with bone density, right? And not because of a lack of calcium, by the way. Can I just divert on that for two seconds? - Yeah. - So our bones are not calcium, contrary to popular belief. Our bones are calcium combined with something called phosphorus, and they form something called hydroxyapatite. So our bones are hydroxyapatite. In order for calcium and phosphorus to form hydroxyapatite, you need 12 minerals. The vast majority of people with soft bones are mineral deficient. They are not calcium deficient. If you went to assisted care living facilities all over the world, you would find elderly men and women that have osteophenia or osteoporosis, but are bone conditions, that have been on calcium supplements for decades. Calcium is not the answer. Minerals are the answer. That's why I take a mineral salt every morning, right? Because you'll get all 12 of those minerals that you need to create bone density. So when you're on a shake plate and it's moving in a vertical plane, it's helping improve your bone density. It's also draining your lymphatic system. So some of those can get expensive, but you can even get those little trampolines. Those little round trampolines that you can bounce on. Those are excellent for lymphatic drainage. - I just got that, yeah. - Walking, by the way, is genetically engineered to circulate lymphatic fluid. - We just started adding walking right when we wake up. We walk like three to four miles and dude, it's improved my mood. Just being outside underneath the sun, just like taught. I've changed the way I work. Now I'm either on a bike or I'm like on a phone, but I'm always outside. - I'm gonna do you a solid right now. So if you walk every day, I'm gonna send you both an ion weighted vest and I do have a financial relationship with them. - Do I have to sign? - Do you feel that you have to? - I have to, because people watch this podcast and say he's only recommending it because he gets paid. - Does that bother you? - It bothers me because the, that attack is meant to say, don't believe what he's saying, because he has a financial gain. So I actually embrace the financial gain. I mean, my intention is to, to create wealth for myself and my family, but to create wealth by intentionally doing the right thing. So I will always disclose when you're making motion knowing. - And if they feel like that takes the information, then it's up to the listener to not follow it. But-- - Well, I appreciate it. - What you'll find is, I think it's the lack of transparency that creates that this equilibrium. But what these vests do, these I am best, is it distributes the weight around your body. It actually hugs your body very tightly. So compression and weight will skyrocket the benefits that you get out of walking. Like you are gonna see fat strip off your body at an alarming rate. - Oh, I was gonna start to-- - No way. - I would love that. And so I don't already carry so much weight 'cause it's the fat. - Yeah, but you was at my life, I think that you're heavier and you want your metabolism to kick in. - Got it. - And so you're gonna strap this thing on, zip it up. It'll feel amazing. Five minutes after you have it on, you won't even know you have it on. It forms right to your body. - Wow. - And it distributes the weight the same way that you would distribute weight if you were to gain weight. You don't gain weight on top of your shoulders, but most rucksacks hang on your shoulders and pull your shoulders down. Right, so they load your spine. This conforms to your body and it sort of holds the weight to your body. You can zip this thing up, don't change anything about your walk. Watch what happens over the next few weeks just by adding weight to your body. - No way. - Oh, I'm so nominal. - You know so funny. AJ just bought me a-- - And the one for women are beautiful. - Oh really? - This one is high on AI-O-N. - You said the one for women is beautiful. - It's beautiful. - That's good, I like to look cute. - Oh, you're gonna look very cute in this thing. - I wear a little two pound wrist weights and I do, I'm exercise as well. - Oh, wait, you put this thing on. I mean, it's absolutely beautiful. Looks like a sports bra. And then there's a vast one. And it's very attractive. It's very, you know, very fashionable. 'Cause you will. - Thank you. - Where are that during the shaking? - Yeah. (laughing) - Dude, it was such a privilege talking to you. - Dude, it was so great talking to you. - You guys are so-- - I really, really want to circle back on another episode. I want to get my blood tested. - Yep. - I want to fill the needs of what my body needs. - We're doing the ground. - Test. - And we'll do. - And I want to circle back with-- - Okay, transformation. - So I want to do it. And I'm gonna document it. So because like I said, I was gonna do that with Paul Saladino and I tried to. But then again, I got injured. And then I was like, what's the, what's the, but you know what, I'm glad I did that because he made me look so good for my wedding. I looked so good for my wedding. - All right, I look snagged. - Oh yeah, I know, well, just I just changed eating only whole foods during that time. And then on my wedding night, I ate bad. And then from there till now, I dedicated till now. I've been eating bad the whole time. - Good job, here. - I'm so pretty baby. - It's so good to stop me dude. - Dude, it's all here. - Right, it's all here. - Here, eat those, let's go. You got any rice crispy treats, man? - Dude, dude, I had all of my snacks. I post made it a bunch of stuff. And I was like, dude, we got a high-difficke. - I can't, man. - I noticed when I got here, she offered me like a tangerine or something. - Yeah, give your assistance of some love dude. - Would you like an orange? - All we have is fresh fruit. It's all that we have in the house. I'm gonna go shitting. - I'm like, shitting. - I'm like, shitting it out right now. I'm bust your ass. - Honestly, you would laugh. I'm not exactly like, dude. - Yeah, right. - And we were sitting there and I was getting ready last night. And I'm eating burger king. And just a large amount of burger king. And I'm sitting there thinking about all the questions that I would ask you. I started laughing to myself. If only new house preparing for this episode. Thank you so much, brothers. - I love you, man. This was amazing. Thank you so much, dude. - Thank you, thank you. - Is there anything you want to tell them before we leave? - No, that's it, man. Whole food diet, sleep, and mobility. Make it non-negotiable. - You right. - Thank you guys so much. I will see you guys next time.