The FINNEAS Episode

[music playing] ♪ Finneas ♪ ♪ Stop calling them a peery ♪ [laughter] ♪ Finneas ♪ ♪ Finneas, Finneas ♪ ♪ Philly, I wish his brother bodies his own man ♪ ♪ He came from the water now he's on the sand ♪ Landlocked Finneas coming at you now. [laughter] Guys, I'm just letting you know today. I've been cleaning those for you and putting them aside. Yes. I'm going to get a little deeper. What do you mean? You're going to go for the-- I'm just going to be a deeper or I'm just going to be a lot deeper today than you're probably used to. What are you talking about? Deeper. Conversationally, I'm going to dig deeper. I'm going to pull a lot out of both of you and I'm going to pull a lot out of whoever comes here. That's good because I kind of need to be pulled out of. I want to be the opposite. I want to go full-service-level comic relief. That's great. Okay. What are you going to do, Kristen? Kristen might go into cardiac arrest because she has two numb arms. But you're never cold. I have a numb arm. I know, but I have a numb hand. Anything I can do for you to make you feel better? Hey. You don't mind if I grab life by the claw, do you? Not at all. White claw. [laughter] You know this happens to be my favorite flavor. Yeah? Got anything else to say? Yeah. 2020. Me and Phineas are writing a song together. Okay. We're writing like this like pop, like uptempo banger. And he was about to leave. And I said, I really was hoping we would make one of those like ballad songs. Like one of the ones you do that like rips your heart out. Like when the party's over and he said I got to go next time. We started writing and within 15 minutes we wrote lonely. And if we hadn't grabbed life by the claw. Really? You think? You almost didn't do it? What do you mean? He was leaving. And we wrote a song in 15 minutes. And he talked about being at the top and you know, a whole deep conversation. Yeah? Oh. Get in the fridge. Go, go, go, go, go. Oh. Okay. Hey. What's up boss? Phineas? I listen to every single thing you ever do front to back. Wow. You'll be Phineas. I'll be Billy. Let's go a little deeper. Hi. He can remember the whole song. I'm blown away. I'm blown away. I'm blown away. He was on Glee. You really buttered me up. Yeah. Kristen's very cold. Her first question. My hand is numb. Her first question. I don't know if you've ever had that. A numb hand? Like, I'm not kidding. These two fingers are fully numb. This is circulation. Mine was last night. I, both of my arms, I think I was having anxiety last night. I feel so not anxious. So I can't be that. Tell us more about that. Your anxiety. Do you ever get anxious? Yeah. Totally. Do you have an anxiety? Do you have depression? I don't have depression. I don't think so. I don't want you to have depression, I think. He was such a good depression. No, no, no. I just wanted to know. You do have anxiety. We don't talk about anxiety. Yeah. I have anxiety. Like, pretty circumstantial. But yeah. Yeah. I've got some eggs. What are the circumstances that will trigger it? STD. Well, I grew up with like, crazy separation anxiety. Like, crazy separation anxiety. Would your parents are together? Yeah. But what was an unferential narrative? Just me separating from my parents. Oh, really? So do you like sleeping bad with them when you were young? Oh, I do that with my mom. Isn't that the best? Do you know what I used to do with my mom? What? Do you want anything else to drink? Is it a twist? Oh, good. Oh, wow. Cream sugar. This is great. Thanks for offering. Oh, yeah. So my mom would, she would just like draw a line in the sand. And she'd be like, you're not sleeping in my bed. And I just wanted to. And I felt scared or something. So I would take my pillows and blankets. And I'd sleep right outside of her door. Aww. Like a dog. Yeah, I don't, that's so sad. To me. That's it. I thought you were going to be like me too. No, my mom let me sleep in bed with her. How late were you sleeping in the bed? Like when I was like nine. It's cool. Yeah, not young. And I was still breastfeeding until I was like nine. It's hard to find. She pissed the bed until she was 14. She wore diapers. As a parent, it's hard to know when to pull that diaper off. That just changed the game. Like we have a friend who I won't name who is probably very, whatever, let the story unfold. We have a friend. We'll go a little deeper on that. Yeah. I don't even know. Yeah, you'll find out. You can't wait. You're going to recognize it. We have a friend who has a son, very loving relationship, like little boy, mother. She said she realized it was time to start changing the game when she was changing in front of him, no pun intended. And he said, wait, do it slower. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And again. And she was like. Do it. And that changed the game. Do it slower. Crazy. Wait. Anyway, growing up, it's crazy separation. Was Billy like that too or no? I don't know. You can't remember how she would diagnose herself. But for me, it was like, oh, I didn't really want to like, I never wanted to like sleep over at a friend's house. If my parents would, I was like convinced that my parents were going to die all the time. For sure. Did you have rituals that you had to do to ensure that they didn't die? I didn't really, I know you have this. Yes. Did you have this? Yeah. I didn't know like that was Steve's component of that. But man, I was like, if my parents were like, okay, we're going to go out and see a movie and you're going to be, even if it was like my friend's mom watching me, I'd be like, I'd be like, they're going to die. Yeah. Did you still have that a little or no? Like a little? Yeah. Of course. I don't have it until somebody does pick up and I'm like, they're dead. It's really? Oh, yeah. When you're going to sleep at night and start thinking like, I guess life is okay. I think they're going well and then I instantly am like, oh my god, I bet you my parents are like dying right now. I went to therapy before. Have you ever considered? I went to therapy. Okay, so do you guys know the movie Spirited Away? Of course, I'm one of the favorite movies. Okay, so I was like a six-year-old. Oh, it's unbelievable. It's like the same film maker, it's like anime. It's made by like the guy who did like Totoro. No thing. You never seen no thing. I don't know. You've seen like images from it. It's just even if it's just like on like internet mood boards. I don't like connect with anime. I don't know. This is different. It's like one of the great Naruto or something. Yeah, it's like one of the great movies. Like I put it in the list of like top on 100 movies. Why is that? Some titles? Probably like early, early 2000s, maybe late 90s. In like the first 10 minutes of the movie, this is how the movie starts. Families on a road trip somewhere. The daughter is anxious like me, like you. And the parents are very dismissive of her feelings. They are like, ah, let's pull over here to take a rest. They pull over empty Japanese town with food everywhere. Freshly cooked. Like no people. Delicious. Beautiful town lights on spooky food. Yeah. And the parents are like, let's eat. And the daughter is like, what are you doing? Yeah. And they're just like, you suck. Yeah. They're so dismissive of the girl. And she starts walking around the empty town while her parents are like eating food that they have no idea the origin of. And they're eating all this food. And she's walking around. And it starts to get dark. And she's like, I'm going to go back. And she goes back to where her parents are. And she's like, mom, dad. And their backs are to her. And they turn around and they've become pigs. Oh. And she's like, and the pigs get like wrangled by like a farmer or something. It's very frightening. And at six years old, this was like the last straw. That's what you want me to say. And I went to like a child psychologist. Oh, because of me. Because I was so riddled with like, I was like, we'd go out to eat with some of my parents. That's what I'd be like. Like I'd be like, oh my god, if they were going to turn into pigs. And then we went to this. My parents took me to like a child group therapy thing. And like three of the kids were like spirited away. Wow. It was just scary kids. It's so bad. It's so good, yeah. We got to watch it. I know that I, because I had OCD about my parents dying. And I had to do all these rituals. And it became very burdensome to be my parents and have to do the rituals. It's like so much time. They still do them with you. I know there's one that I still have to do. What do you do? I have to kiss both of them. If I'm with them, if we're sleeping in the same house, I have to kiss each of them. I kiss them right in the middle. No. Right in the middle of their cheek. But it, boy, does it have to be the middle. And like so. So have you missed? I miss. Me. I don't have to see a heart. Yeah. So for step one, it has to be right in the middle. And when I get it the first time, it's like, what a relief. Yeah, that's so easy. It takes so many attempts a lot of times. Then when I get that, I say, you know, I love you. You say, good night. And then I walk away. And then I envision their face in a heart. And anyways, they sent me to a counselor because it was getting so bad. And I basically made up this deity that I called the spirit chief that looked like Moses. And he was in the clouds. And I was just like, it always just turned into more and more and more. And then I went, they forced me to go to this thing. And I said, look. Woman. I mean, look. Doctor. Bitch. No. Mrs. I forget her name. I said, I know that everything I'm doing is completely irrational and logical. And I know that I shouldn't be doing it. She was like a child psychologist. Yeah. They made me go. They said, if you go, you're on the track to getting a cell phone. And they said, if you give up this thing altogether, you do get a cell phone. So I went and I just basically said, I know that's illogical. I just said, it's just not like, it's not worth it to me to stop doing it. Like, it's just not worth it. For risk. Yeah, if they die, I don't want to deal with it. And then it got so overwhelming that one day I just, I was in the shower, broke down crying as I can't do it enough is enough. They die, they die, I woke up, no one died, and I got my first cell phone. - Nice, yeah. - But, so that was the big ritual, like the tapestry of rituals, but we've kept a couple of them. We've kept the kissing on the cheek. - Yeah, I saw that. - Yeah. - What are you gonna do? What are we all gonna do when the day does come? - When they die? - Yeah, yeah. - You guys ask you a weird question. - Sure. - I was so afraid of being orphaned. (laughing) - I was like, I didn't want my parents to die for a myriad of reasons, but a big part of it was like, I would be an orphan, that was a big part of it. - That was a big part of it. - That was in mine. - And I'm gonna go to, and in my head, it was like some gray orphanage. - Yeah. - That's right. - Was it another movie that you did, did you see like Annie too many times? - I probably saw it. - That's probably part of it. - You were influenced by what you. - But what I want to watch, Jim. - With, I had a very, did I tell you this already? A really weird thing with being the only child. Like, I. - Were you the only child? - No, but I wouldn't, (laughing) I would not go when I was younger, I wouldn't go with my brother, couldn't come like out to eat, I wouldn't go, 'cause I didn't want that other restaurant people to think I wasn't only child. - I love that. And didn't you make up that you had a sister and you would talk to her on like your walk so long? - I think that's a lot of kids do that. - Yeah, made up children. - Yeah, like I would always be like fighting with my sister, like walking home from the bus. - Like talking. - Anyway, my parents are still alive, as are yours, as are yours. - You have very young parents. Very old. - No, how old are they? - My dad's about to be 70. - Yeah, yeah. - That's our parents. - You know, I'm not 30 yet. Like my dad had me when he was 40. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I forgot, you're, you're, I always forget. You come off, like, you look like a young boy. You come off, like, you're like 45. - How old are you? - 28. - Wow. - You are so full of youth. - Thank you. - People think that I'm 28. - Wait, I've known you. - You look 28. - I've known you're a person. - I've known you since you were 18. That's crazy. - How did you guys meet? - The first time I met you was at the Echo. We worked before that. - Did you hear that he was there or not? - Yeah, yeah, I was very effusive about Benny being there. I have this, so my Benny origin story is you come in a Billy's show at the Echo and I was like, you're-- - That was our first show, right? - Yeah. - I was like, you're amazing. - Yeah. - So, you know, so inspired by your work, whatever. Like, I always try to be very honest about stuff. I don't try to be like, nice to meet you. - Were you guys like talking online? - No, there was a-- - So the John or Sam brought you. - They like just signed the inner scope or something. And I think she was about to put out her first EP or that was like, or she just put out her first EP. - She had just put it out. - Yeah. - And then-- - It was like summer 2017. - Yeah, and she was 13 or 14. - She was 15 maybe, but-- - Oh, okay, so yeah. - So they were like, you gotta work and I didn't hear any of the music yet. And then I was like, I trust you guys. I'll just go to the show. I went to the show and like, you know, it was like half industry, half fans. And there was everyone that was there were singing all the words in the song. And I was like, I was like, how the fuck is this happening? And there was like, it goes, I was like 200 people. - Really small. - And then, yeah, I saw, that's my-- - Tell me, Matt. - Yeah, yeah. - And long hair back then or no? - No, short. - Long hair is so good for you. - Thanks, man. - Don't you think? I want my hair to fall. - Wait. - I do. - Can I tell you something? - It's so crazy. I was like doing some organization and like my old hard drives and like putting stuff together and like making a new master hard drive. - Yeah. - And I saw-- - Fuck, I love that. - Yeah, I love that time. - I hate that time. - Some hard drive organization. - Yeah, I just love, I've gotten out of hand. - And I just got to reprioritize and like, we just create a new baseline start. - And I like, like sound organization. I like all the folders and everything. And I remember, I saw a thing and I was like, I was like, why are there so many ideas? What did we do? I didn't even remember. I just remember it was like a total wash. And Billy, like, didn't want to be there. Had like her legs up in there. - Bill Gates actually. - Yeah, and that was like, I also realized that Billy was, you realize how young she was back then. Like it was like wrangling. - Yeah, how, when did she-- - She's probably 14. - She was like maybe 15 when we were working with Danny. It was like, so-- - And that was like after she was already-- - It was already her first EP was already like, doing really well. The days we were like in the studio with you were like, right when Lovely came out. - Yeah. - She was already like, even very well. But she was like, a child. - And they didn't, they didn't. I remember like-- - I never do. - Like Phineas grew up being stoked by my music. He was a producer. - Yeah, yeah. - He loved my music. Like Billy, like obviously listened to my song. But like couldn't give two shits about, like, at the time. Like she was like, like, thought like it was cool enough to get in with me, but like did not care. - Well, she liked you. Like when we hung out just like in your kitchen, she was like, I like Danny's funny, but I like him. - But she just didn't like, she also didn't like, she didn't like making music at the time. She liked it now. - No, I feel like everybody likes different parts of the thing. - Yeah. - That's my, I don't really like touring. I don't really like-- - You don't like the performance part? - Not really. I'm definitely not swept away when I'm on stage. I'm focused and like trying to do a good job and judging myself the whole time. And I come off and if somebody's like, great, so I'm like, was it? I have no idea. I really don't know. I was like trying, I was, it's very analytical and sort of like, I hate it. I don't like performing. - Oh, I like, well, I hate any. - But certainly being on tour, I hate it. - But aren't you, I mean, you guys are going all over the world, aren't you? - You don't have time to do anything. - Yeah, I guess so. - And then once you start getting famous, you really can't do any. - Yeah. - In my head, it's such a romanticized, like you get off like the bus and it's like-- - The Billy loves that. - Billy loves being on tour. She loves playing shows. She's very in it on stage in a show. And it's, that's not as much my bad. - Did you know, that's used to be true. I don't know if it's still true, but for the first like two albums, do you know any song that Post Malone wrote was released? There were any time he finished the song-- - Nothing. - It was released. - That's crazy. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, so most people like-- - I think of all the songs I've made that have never been released. - Well, I think you're kind of abnormal, right? - Not like, so for me-- - You have like a hundred songs. - I say 90% of the stuff I make in a year does not see the light of day. - Yep. - See, that is a game of, that's a hard game. - Being a producer, Cory. - But you have to be-- - That's a hard game. - But you have to be, that's why we all have pretty good batting averages, because you can't just release-- Remember how when I play you stuff, and you're like, oh my God, that's amazing. - Yeah. - Cool, it is. - It's like, yeah, but you just have to be like-- - Descerning. - I just am like, I don't want something to come out unless I'm so proud of it, 'cause it's gonna be there forever. - If I don't feel productive every day working, like aren't you sometimes like, what the fuck am I doing? - But I do feel productive doing that. - I'm like in an idea. - Yeah, that's true. - And sometimes like, you'll take, sometimes I'll make a song, and then like, six years later I'll like sample it, and then I don't become a thing, or like, I'll read some of my songs are like, I was gonna say, with him, okay. So I opened up those sessions this year, and this was, okay, this was when they were 15. When did Billy's second album come out? How old was she? - So her second album came out, she was like 19 or 20? - Okay, in that first session, you were playing a version of what became Haley's concert. - That's right, yeah. - In that first session. - Yeah. - And that was like, - Kick it around. - Yeah. - Kick it around. - Kick it around. - Yeah, you just like-- - It's a good guy. - Damn you. - I can't work it on this one song for so long. - Just a song called Good Guy. I've tried it. It's probably 20 times, 20 different beats. - Yeah. - The concept is that I'm a good guy. - Right. - It's like I kind of just go explain why. Like kind of over a juxtaposing beat that you wouldn't normally resurface a different beat. It's never cool. - But it's gonna eventually land. - I'm starting to doubt it. - Honest. (laughing) - These new sauces from KFC pair so perfectly with their bonus bucket meal. Now, I'd like you first to take that orangeish red one and put it in your hand. - You're talking about the honey chili crisp. - Yep. And I'd like to grab, oh, you're grabbing the tender yourself. Okay. - Can I give a tree about? - I'd like you to give it a true vow. - Talk me through it. - Now, I bet you're feeling-- - The honey. - But the aftertaste of a chili just touching the bet. - No. - I'm feeling one thing and one thing only. - Bingo! - Oh yeah. Kristen, mind if I dip this in hot pin your ranch and stuff it down the back of your mouth. (laughing) - I'm doing mine. - Okay. - Price is in participation. - Price is in participation, maybe. - Price is in participation, maybe, maybe. - We're not the only multi-media experience. Did you know that? - Who else is I'm ex? - Canva. - Yeah, they can do a lot of things. It's a diverse program. - It is a diverse program. - Yeah, I said it weird. - You did say it weird, but that's okay. If you were using Canva, you could probably just say it however you want to say it and it would get it and it would-- - It's worried, you promptly with the worries. - Yeah. It can kind of understand whatever prompt you give it. - I bet it does a lot of different things. I think if you're like, "Hey, how many of you make this video?" It can do it. It made me this poster for me. I mean, that's just-- - That's cool that you can use. There's so many more-- - We need a prompt to use. - To use. - Yeah. - I think we're living in a kind of a cool time. - There's a lot happening, and there's a lot to be excited about. And Canva makes design easy for anyone with built-in AI that lets you remove, generate, and animate, content, and just a click. Start designing today at canva.com. This thing's fallen off my head. - In 2016, in the neighborhood of where we are right now. - Then this one. - And I was driving my little, like, salvage title, Honda Fit car, and was at a stop sign. And Lil Dickie walked the crosswalk in front of me, and-- - Actual hand. - Actualy you. - Holiday. - And I, loudly in my car went, "Wow!" And you looked because it was the shitty car, so you could hear. It's not very soundproof. It's not a may back. Anyway, so you looked at who had said that, but I just smiled. And that was the first time I saw you in real life. - Wow. And we didn't say, like, it was just-- - I wasn't-- I didn't-- - I wasn't bruised. - Hey, listen to my sounds. - I didn't punish you that. - Yeah. (laughing) - In a couple of years or yeah. (laughing) - Anyway, I'm gonna be joking. - I'm gonna be honest. - I'll see you someday. - I don't tell you, I feel honored that I even listened to "Wow," and if like, your soul. - I totally forgot something. - Two nights ago? - Yeah. - I was watching a really old episode of "Friends." - And my mom and I saw your mom. - Is she still acting? - No, I mean, she's a great actor. She'd like to, but. - No, she's so good. - Yeah. - But all those things, I mean like we're talking about, like, she's very beautiful. - She's so hot. - She's so hot. - But the thing she blew me away. (laughing) - I'll tell her that. - I was like, I was like. - You know how being an auditioning person is like, to get your one episode. - Yeah. - One day of work on "Friends" is like, 30 auditions for different things, and then finally. - Have you ever auditioned? Have you ever heard for a year? - He used to be on TV. - For years auditioned. - Yeah, he was on TV. - But like, it's just such a, the ratio, and now she runs this crazy nonprofit that's awesome. But it's like, it's just time. It's just like, if you want to land one. - Are you a creature of habit? - Sure, yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah, also the "Friends" thing is so funny because like, she comes in for like those two scenes really. - Yeah. - And like, sometimes that'll like blow up on Instagram and they'll be like, oh, Billy's a NEPO baby. And I'm like, I'm like, dog, like, she made like, $800 from that 40 years ago. Like, she did one episode. - What came first, Glee or Billy's first? - Glee. - Yeah. - So you were, were you like, trying to act? We're not trying, but were you like an, I tried, you were trying to act as totally fair. I was totally trying to act as well. - It was not what you wanted instead of music. - I really wanted to make music. I actually had a fear. I never, this never was a possibility. But like, I would audition for stuff and like, yeah, I was on a couple episodes of Glee and a couple episodes of Modern Family. - Oh wow. - And I was always like, nobody takes Keanu Reeves music seriously because he's a movie star. I was always like, I can't, I can't have like a- - I can't go too far down here. - I can't go too far down there. - You know when I went to- - I was as far to you. - You know when I went to the gym for not an option. For the first time when I went to the gym, I told my trainer, I was like, look, I was like, 'cause I wanted to lose weight. I was like, I'm gonna lose weight. I'm like, but I don't want to get like, too muscular. And he was like, I don't think that'll be a problem. - Because you were worried that you wouldn't be as funny. - I don't, that's a thing we've done. - No, I just didn't want to look weird in shirts. - If Benny showed up suddenly like, he won't guess. - That's all I would talk about. - Well, Benny wants to get fully tied and up like, - No, not fully tied. - Just like Bad Bunny. - No, not fully. - Exactly what Bad Bunny does. - Not fully tied up. - I think you should. - I saw Bad Bunny without his shirt. Like that shower picture where like, you could kind of see the top of his penis. - You could see where the head started, I think. - No, no, you could see his eyes. - You could see his eyes. - His eyes. - It blew me away. - There was one picture where I think where I can see where his head is. - You want to sit down? You want to sit down? - I love this house. - Let's go sit on a couch. - You might not want to sit on a couch. He's looking around. - I like this, Benny. - That's me, it's hyper real. - It'll right here if you want it. - We fell in love in this house. - You engaged, aren't you? - I'm engaged. - Congratulations. - How long were you guys engaged before you got married? - Two years. - Two years. - Ooh, a little long. - We were dating. - Not really. - We were couple. Are you gonna do a wedding? - We're gonna do a wedding. - No, they're actually just getting engaged. - I felt, I don't know, I felt, I wanted to take the time because I hurt overwhelmed by the wedding. - Did you guys get married in LA or in California? Did you guys get married? - Nalabo. - Oh, beautiful. - It was really pretty. - Yeah, it was great. - You said at Benny's wedding to me that it was perfect and that it went exactly what it was one of the best it could possibly be. - It did. - It was one of the best weddings I've ever been to. - I love to hear that. - It was like top three and mine is in there. - I'm very sure for myself. - Yeah. - So it's good. - It's really, it's really good. - Maybe you could crack the top three. There's one open spot. - We'll see. - What's your dream wedding? - All I'm really focusing on personally is the entertainment, the music, the music. - The band's gonna play and stuff. - What do you want? Dream world, are you having DJ, band, most. - Dream world is not sure who will play. I want somebody, I have a couple of people in mind to sing while we're going down the aisle. - I have. - Like famous people. - I have. - No. - A personal, like people that I'm a big fan of that aren't, you know, it's not Beyonce or something, but people that are kind of big fans. - But here, that means I'm a new. - Billio. - I like that. - I like that. - I like that. - Good dog. - Good dog. - Good dog. - Good dog. - Good dog. - The phrase. - The phrase. - The phrase. - It's almost shaved. - It's really about time. - It's about time. - It's about time. - Do you care about what food is at the wedding or now? - I think they're probably vegetarians. - No, yeah, no, but I'm saying you care about the food though. - Super, yeah. You know what I also have a bone to pick about weddings? You didn't have this, so good for you. - I already know. Sit down dinner. - No, sit down dinner, I don't mind. It's just like the traditional wedding cuisine being like basically like English formal. Like it's like mashed potatoes and steak and like. - Like fish and like green beans and shit. I'm like, what are we doing? Like nobody is gassed about that. Everybody wants like spaghetti and garlic bread and shit. - I tried to get us to have spaghetti and they said that. - They said nobody wants to eat red sauce. I said, I want to eat red sauce. - Everybody wants to eat red sauce. - I think they were wrong. - What did you guys have at your wedding? What food? - I don't know. - I think English and countryside. - Similar to what you're saying. - Good, the best version. - No, we had fish. - Yes. - We had. - We had it upset out. - Great apps that I'm not gonna bore you with but boy were they diverse and they were really satisfying and they were really good. - Yeah. - A little chicken on a biscuit type of stuff. - Oh yeah, that was really good. - And for the main, sure we had steak, sure we had halibut and we had pasta. - White sauce, right? - I have to like that. - I don't, to be honest, I don't remember. - I have to ask you something because it's so important to me. Do you, I can't remember. Do you like tofu? - Love. - Okay. I've recently discovered the best tofu. I've ever had in my entire life. It's a man who only does. He does. It's really far away but he delivers it to me. It's incredible. - Really? - Okay. I mean, I eat tofu five days a week. - I love tofu. - So, to me, it's so important. - I don't even know that tofu could be that different than just the one that you get at the store. - I agree. - The term one. You guys are insane. Okay. - All the same? - No. So there's like, first of all, the one you get in the store is even tofu. - Okay. - I don't even know what it is. - You thought this is so soft. So first there's like a regular one that's really soft. - I got it. - Then they have a thing. - It's backwards. - It's called Supreme. It's called Supreme Tofu. And it looks like cream cheese. - Yeah. - It's like so soft and delicious. - Yeah. - It's more than silken though. - I love the word silken. - Yeah, silken is great. - But it's more like, do you know when you're in Japan or when you're at a Japanese restaurant and you have like, and you have like the tofu that's so soft, it looks like it's like a. - Yep. - So it's like that. - When I go to like pineapple, it's like mapo. It's called like mapo tofu. - Yeah, yeah. - It's even softer than mapo though. But yeah, I love mapo tofu so good. - Can the general public get it? - Yeah. - Or they have to know the man. - No, it's called Meiji. Like M-E-I-J-I. And then some of their stuff like is a little stronger than like, you're like. Like, there's soy milk. I love. - It's stronger. - It's. - What? - So like the fermentation and it's not sweet, they're soy milk. - Nice. - So it's like very, you taste like soybean. It's different. - Yeah. - But their tofu is like, just like heaven. I eat it every single day. - Fuck. - Put me up, dude. Sounds awesome. - You know what it's also like heaven? Not to interrupt. Not to take it here. But because we're talking about food and I know you love food and I just thought I would contribute. - Mick Donald's ice cream, the soft serve tastes like heaven silt tofu. It's the best cloud ice cream I've ever had. It's like tofu. - I hate soft serve. - Do you not? - Really? - I think a shit. - Okay. - I do. I think a shit whenever I see soft serve. - This has a lot to do with your relationship with shitting. - Yes. - Because my shit is nothing like something. - Yeah. - He only has two types of shit. - Yeah, that's right. - He has whatever. - I don't want to talk about him. - And Daz. - This is dude. - I'm going to air him out really quick. This parallel is like we were with Rat the other day looking at an album covered. It was like a rainbow. - Yeah. - Rat goes, what a shitty album cover. So ugly. And he's colorblind. And I go walk me through the colors on this. And he's like gray, greenish gray. And we're like, of course, this looks ugly. - Yeah. - Big colorblind. - Big colorblind is crazy. - Yeah. - Because it's not even like, it's not that big of a deal, but it's such a big deal. - Big deal. - So big deal. - You can only see shades of gray, right? - No, but it's like you're like, for him, you can't release, there's like purples that he can't really see. And then green and red are usually like interchangeable. But I also just am convinced that like, whatever their differentiation, like that all the colors are inaccurate to how it's looking at me. - I wonder if there is a correlation with depression and colorblindness. - Either? - I have neither. But when you're just wondering, he's going deep. - Yeah, he's going deep question. - If you go a little deeper on it, I mean, if you even think about the song "Colorblind" by Counting Gross. - No, you said we said this last night. - What is it called? Do you know? You don't know? It's really, it's a very depressing, it's actually, I think it's an iconic American song that I'm shocked. - I'm just not a huge counting gross. There's a matter. - I'm just counting gross. - You know what song I'm trying to play. - I know the song. - It's like a coffee black egg white. - Yeah, that's kind of gross, right? - Is it? - Yeah. Anyways, it's a really depressing song. - It's about how I'm depressed and there's no color in this world, so I remember seeing this and I'm just thinking about it because I did it the other day and everyone was watching. and I was wowed by myself. Didn't used to do gymnastics. (laughing) You did gymnastics the other day and everyone was wowed? - I did a flip in here and I was like not a real flip. It was like, it was like, - You tried to say that you could flip, so I was like. - In his defense, he did flip. - He did flip. - I did do a real flip, but not a land on your feet flip. - Wasn't you land on a craft spot? - No, I didn't. - I didn't even here. - It was risky. - I know, it was crazy. - I said he shouldn't do it and he was like, I can do it and then he did it and like the footage is like his head almost crashed on the ground. - But the footage is so crazy. I'm right here. - Okay. - I'm gonna do it. - Do not jump. - But didn't you use to do that? - Didn't you use to do stuff like, you used to do like air piled gymnastics. - No, no, you did my hair more instead. - I was circus aerial shit. - I was in circus aerial shit. - I was very impressed when I saw these. - Wow. - I was on a quest as an adolescent to moisturize myself socially as quickly and as broadly as possible. I was doing ballet class and aerial and I was homeschool. - Wow. - I was really homeschooled. - I was vegetarian. - How old? - Why were you homeschooled? - I think the short answer was, my parents were like out of work actors. They were around a lot. I was super weird. I had all this separation anxiety and whatever. And they were like, ah fuck it. The only, we don't have any money. We can't send them to some, you know, crunchy like Waldorf school or something. So we're just around, we're just homeschooling. - Did you, did you? - And then I started acting. So like by the time I was in high school, I was like, oh, I'll probably go to real high school. And then I was acting too much. - So you never went to like a public school. - I never went to school. - Did you have a lot of friends growing up? - Mm-hmm. - Yeah. - So why don't you make friends? - Yeah. - There's a lot of like kid, like I think my parents were on like email lists. There was like a lot of other homeschooled kids that were like actors. - So you just had to be, you just had to be friends with whichever one they had the emails? - Oh, that's right. - Yeah. - You just be friends with whoever was at school. - It is so crazy. - Did you feel like it? Were you, there was never a point in your entire homeschooling? - Out of lessons. - Yeah, that you were ever like, huh, I do wish I could like go to school and do the school thing or you were just content. - I think when I was like about high school age, I was like, oh, that seemed sick. I wanna go do that. But then I was acting enough that I wasn't. And I was always like, I was already like, by the time I was like 12 completely sure I wanted to write songs and be in a band or something. - Yeah. - So I spent all of my day, every day doing that. - At 12? - From like 12 to 18. - But what? - Just trying. - Just dealing with the homeschool. Like, does someone come over every day and-- - We registered our house as a private school. - And so, like a person. - What's that? - Your parents have to do that, right? - So your private schools are like, outside of stature. - So you weren't being homeschooled. You just didn't want school. - I mean, my parents educated us. - How so? - Just didn't. - In the way you'd educate anybody. - Is that books? - No, just like, you know. like that movie where they go to the woods and they have to really like that. Do you like that movie a little bit? Yeah, I never ate like a deer heart. Yeah, I was. I had friends. That's cool. It was cool. I had friends who were home school. It's like it's. That's totally different though. He's not describing a common home schooling. To me, I mean, I have no idea what I'm talking about. But to me a common home schooling is. Follow us. This is right here. And this person comes over here. On this year and that. I have like a high school diploma written in catch up somewhere. Wow. So you don't have you've never graduated high school? No, I mean, like, I have like a diploma from graduating a fake high school. But yeah, written catch up. I mean, not, you know, yeah. Oh, oh, oh. For this one, we should try something new. It's funny because you know white clouds all about trying something new. It is. I think so. What do you want to try? Well, you want to try a ski ski. No, he tried is terrible. I've done that. So we take a pack down. We go to Santa Monica. Peer. You don't have the end of this thought yet. Well, I was. I just don't know where we're going to serve. Packed down and go down to the beach. Whatever beach is nearest. I know. I've tried that. I've done you serves. You've never served. I've served. You've never served. I've served. It's very tiring. It's right responsibly. Hard Seltzer with flavors. White cloth, Seltzer works. Chicago, Illinois. This episode is sponsored by Better Health. I know I'm usually a big old jokester. We love you when you're like that. And they love me like that. But therapy has helped me become the person I am today. You know, I had a rough time when I was about 20, 21 and I take the tools I learned in therapy. And help apply them to my real life and tools I need when I was feeling like anxious or just depressed. Sign up and get 10% off at BetterHealth.com/FPS. That's BetterHealth.com/FPS. I like that we get 10% off. So you guys, you guys worried we're not going to have anything to talk about now that he's gone? I'm ready to fill conversation. I actually have an idea. Okay. Whenever we decide to stop doing this, we should invite everyone that's ever been on and we'll book home on Airbnb and everyone will have to stay with us for like a week. Well, check. You might need a massage. You're aware that there's spa and massages you can get off Airbnb. I can book you one right now on the website. Yeah. I was the person who said you should call it SpareBnB. Spare? Airbnb. SpareBnB. You guys, why don't we ask you about all of our deep questions? I'm going to ask if he's ever had a dream where he killed Billy, I thought it might be. You mean that right now? What? If he ever killed Billy, just to deal. I'll just ask him right when he comes out. If he had a dream. Yeah, yeah. That's not deep. Yeah, it's his question, not mine. No, it's not. It's your question. You're the one asking it. Okay. Well, then I'm going to ask the other question first. I have a question. I have a deep question. Do you ever have a dream where you killed Billy? No, but I had a dream the other day and I texted Benny about this that my dad ruined Benny's wedding, screaming at the ceremony about religion. My dad wasn't at the wedding without this mic, he didn't text me and tell me that. Do you and your sister ever fight? I mean, have you ever gotten into any, there has to be some sibling rivalry? We argue, but like never, it's very like, yes. Yeah, we're super close. The thing that is really interesting, I always noticed since the first time I met you and I met your parents the first day I met you. Sounds about right. The first thing I noticed though is, and I deal with so many artists and I've dealt with so many kid artists. And I was always blown away at like how well adjusted your whole family was and how like they were nice and just like at the beginning like how like you guys didn't like spend like money recklessly and buy like huge mansions. And like, I remember I would like always tell people I'd be like, they're going to go so far not only because they're talent, but because they have like a great circle, a great support around them. And I got that vibe from whatever documentary I saw when you were like, I just got that vibe. That's my favorite part about that doc is just that like, it shines a real light on our sweet parents. Sweet family. And they're so sweet. And they're really like, like I work with his mom and there's the same. If you went out and bought like a maz, I don't know, maybe you have like a nice like a maz variety with your parents like call you and be like, relax. Absolutely. That's cool. You think the stupidest thing you ever bought was everyone's done like the stupidest thing I bought was it. What's called a hydrofoil, okay, which is like a surfboard with a fan. Yeah, you got that. Yeah, I bought it for like so much money. And then it was hard to do. Dude, Jonah Hill was at your party one time. He was like, you serve on this beach and I was like, yeah, and he was like, you're going to die. Yeah, he was like, it's really dangerous. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I never used it and I gave it as a gift to my like house manager contractor guy. Yeah. And he just sent me a video the other day surfing around on like a lake. Probably looks sick, right? I was like, oh cool, but I was like, there's thousands of dollars. Very stupid thing I'm going to buy. Yeah. But I didn't die on it, which I ultimately, when I opened it up in the living room, I was like, I'm going to die on this thing. So I sold it. I wonder how long it's going to be until human beings are just really able to, you know, hover and go to work on like through some sort of floating device. I think it's going to be a long time. Really? I thought, really? I don't think we're any closer at all. I heard that we're five years away from floating. No, but from like when you're walking down the street in Manhattan, and like, you know, you're walking by all the people, I heard in five years, it's going to be a whole lot of humanoid robots that you're just walking by. That I'm sure is true, but the robots are like the rolling post-mechanical humanoid robots. I heard that the, as far as like musk machines, what will feel like the biggest shift in like, in going to science. We saw this same clip from Sam Altman, yeah. Who knows if it's true? My friend who's about to be on this podcast, who's like, this, okay, it's not a podcast. Okay, my friend who's going to be on a meeting yet, whatever you want, I don't know. Who's going to be on the next, okay, my friend, who's going to sit on that couch. Hope you guys upshack on it. He told me that he's going to, that eventually we're going to upload our souls onto AI. And that's like, he said that's like the fine, he's like, we won't, we'll be dead. He said, but that's like what the next generation will be uploading themselves up to AI. I will say it's, it is, it has helped me. Like I, I use it every day, it knows so much about me, although the other day's dead. Doesn't make you so dumb though. No, I think that's a misconception. If you, you use it in the right way, sometimes it even tells me to take a little break, take a little breather. Oh, wow. I think it's a very useful tool. Yeah, it can like help you organize your thoughts in a way, in a much quicker way. You have to know how to type. Yeah, it's like, for example, if I'm like writing a scene, And like, I don't know, like a mother comes in with, I don't know, forget I even started talking. (laughing) - But you don't use it, you don't use it, you own, you know what I do, which is kind of embarrassing? - Yeah, what? - If I said this before, sometimes if I have like a book that's brilliant, I will take pictures, like I'll take like, you know-- - That's right, what? - I'll say it would explain this to me. - What, picture of the book and be like, what is this? What's it mean? (laughing) - I'll be like, I'll be like page one and I'll take, like, I think you can the most, you can upload as like 10 pictures at a time, so I can only go 10 pages at that. (laughing) - Uh-huh. - But it will be complex, not you guys. - For probably the denseries. - Tom, yeah, like things that I don't even remember. (laughing) - I wrote a list, right, when I got out of the shower when I was really wet of all the things that I wanted to say to you. And some of them are so crazy. - Hit me. - Like, there's things that are like normal that it's just like, it says like, it says like, you know, like, "saw your mom on friends." Then it says like, "What do you want to do with your life since you've already done everything?" - Right, right. - Then there's one that says, "Sex life." - And then, really take the turn. - Okay, okay, wait. - I upload 10 pictures of a book at a time. (laughing) - I do say explain it to me. And the fact that unfortunately the end of that story was you're like, like, I don't even remember what, (laughing) the none of it was absorbed in the script. - It's the thought that counts. - Wait, I do have a real question. - Sure. - My real question is, I never asked you this. How do you decide, like, at the beginning when you were writing sometimes like, a hundred percent of the song? - Sure. - How would you decide which song you would keep for yourself and which one you would give to Billy? - Kanye's Fable. - Listen, at the beginning, especially. - Yeah. - The only reason that that's not happening anymore is like Billy's a more and more confident writer and so she's more interested in it. - Yeah. - So, like, there's just never like a shortage of, you know, and I think everybody wants to feel like they have authorship over their thing. - Yeah. - At the beginning it was just like literally, I was writing songs and if I've played one for Billy and she loved it, I'd be like, take it. Like, she's not only bigger and more successful, but she's great. - Yeah, so to me, I'm like, the idea of like, you know, I like putting out music and, you know, having an artist project thing, but I have no bones about like, oh, Billy wants to sing my song like, fantastic. - What do you think would have happened? How could you even answer this question? But in a world where maybe you, Billy, was a totally different type of artist whose music you don't, like you wouldn't have naturally been a fan of. Of course, you'd like your choices as the guy who's making the music, but I think one key thing with you in Billy is how much you totally revere her as an artist. - Totally true. - What if your sister was still able to be a huge artist and help you financially, like, you know, your whole career, but you just didn't actually love her as an artist? What would have happened? - It's a really good question. I mean, I think that also, the short answer is like, I don't know and then the long answer is, she's allowed to make records that are not my thing. You know what I mean? - Yeah, but you guys are eye to eye and pretty much. - What a very eye to eye, but I just mean that, like, at some point I assume in her long life of being a musician, she'll be like, I'm so into jazz and I'll be like, okay, cool. - Has there ever been a time where, like, she really believed whatever. Something was, like, for example, the sangle and you were like, I'm not sure that that's it. - Yeah, we argue about stuff like that, but she, to me, because it's never been a band, it's always been her thing, like, as long as I've made it clear that I disagree if I disagree and I've told her why, if she's like, I hear you, but I really want it to be this way. Well, so you're the, you're gonna have to go out and do it a year. - You're a few, okay. - Well, it's your, yeah, you gotta wear the shirt. - I will tell you. - And she's been right a lot and, like, I've been right sometimes and we always say, like, most passionate person wins. So sometimes, sometimes I'm like, I really still think that this is a change and she's like, she's like, you know what, I actually don't really care, so sure, right? You pick your battles. - You pick your battles. - Like not to change a subject, I just want you guys to know. I want you to know the book that I was reading with chat, CBT, is called Enlightenment Now. It's a really dense book, okay? - Throwing enlightenment now into a, into what's chat data engine is making it be, like, basically. - The case for reason science, humanism and progress. - You're like, you're like, I hope that by the end of this book, I could be enlightened, but I think I'm gonna do it even faster. - I feel. - I'm gonna get enlightened as quickly as possible. - I see you guys in a couple months, once I'm done uploading all of the pages. - Yeah, you could read it in like a week. - It's not as easy. - Wait, can I tell you something that's so crazy to me, because I'm not, like, - You can't read. - I don't, I can barely read. - I can. - I don't want to read, like, a book. Like, I just don't, I love researching all of myself. - I want to scroll, dude, I want to be scrolling and swiping. - Is, Selena is a reader, like, I've never seen, I've never seen a person that can speed read so quickly. - Wow. - She'll get a stack of books, and she can, like, in a weekend, she'll be like, can I read these three books? And like, like, normally if someone's saying that, you're like, oh my god, that's so bullshit. Like, sometimes, like, I'll see the book, and it'll be open a little, and she has, like, notes in the book, too, and she has, like, a highlighter, and it's not like, she's not observing, and she's right, she's, yeah, she's super absorbing. - It's insanity, like, like, one day we were out somewhere, and she was like, I feel like the conversation was like dense, and I didn't understand every word that everyone was saying. - That's what she said. - She said that, and she said, I wish my vocabulary was just a little bit better, and then for, like, five months, she was buying and performing SAT books for, like, five months. I have a stack of, like, a hundred that are-- - That's right. - Like, yeah, yeah, that are, like, she would, like-- - Every night. - She would do it. - She would do it. - She would do it, like, open it up, and they're, like, filled out the whole book, and it was insane. Okay, back to my-- - 'Cause she looked down on you, tremendous now or no. - No. - 'Cause she become a-- - No, 'cause I'm one of those, like, I am not a person that will ever push this on to someone. But I think, if I want to, I think I have a pretty good vocabulary if I feel, like, writing in a full sentence. - I'm a terrible guy, but I wouldn't love to have a better vocab. - I think I'm a good one. - I think I-- - 'Cause he's got a really good one. I just had soak in earlier. - I've soaked in? - It's a type of tofu. - You know, you're gonna be soaked in? - I know we know what soak in is, but I'm saying, like, the context he said it was about tofu. - I thought it was, I thought it was a-- - There's a tofu called soak in tofu. - The brand is soak in? - No, it's like-- - No, it's like-- - The brand is soak in? - No, it's like a tofu. - It's like a tofu. - Yeah, that's what I think. - 'Cause you said soak in, I said, I love soak in. - Go, I love soak in. - And then you said so good, right? And I thought we were, like, bonding over it. - But I knew you were saying you love the word soak in. - So you said so good. - I knew that. - I knew that. - It's a great word. - But soak in is-- - It was, it was getting down. - Can I ask a question? - Yeah. - What's the final-- - I think here's my plan. I wanted her to A, C, how you could play. And B, C, how you could make a song so quickly. Like, I wanted her to, like, just, like, say, like, a few things on her mind. And you, like, make a little thing. - I see. - Does he even work? - Yeah, it's about to-- - You'll be finished, I'll be Billy. - Okay, thank you. (laughing) - You don't know about Fandall predicts to you? - Well, you should get acquainted because it's playoff time. You can predict things like the spread, the total points. - How game women-- - How game-winning moments-- - And game women. - How game women moments occur. (laughing) You can predict-- Basically, it's this app that-- It's like a prediction app. - And that's fun, 'cause you might-- - I mean-- - It might be outcome. - Yeah, it's, like, it's like-- Is the stock market fun? It's thrilling. It's a thrilling way to live. - So I have a grab your $25 bonus on Fandall predicts and ride this playoff journey with me. - That's really good. (laughing) - You guys, when I was young at my cottage, we would save up all of our bottle can money, and then we would walk to the local grocery store to get ourselves a pot, but it was never good for you. And now, I can do the same thing, but I don't have to walk anywhere, and it's good for you, 'cause it's all a pot. - You know, it tastes delicious, and it makes you poop. - Was your local grocery store stock with a pot? All a pot? - Well, it was. - Today? - No, actually I thought you would ask. - Buy any two cans of Ollipop in store, and they'll pay you back for one. Any flavor, any retailer, go to drinkallipop.com/fks. Do it now. - Very, very rarely. And when someone's new music comes out, and, like, blown away and get a feeling, it's hard to explain, and only producers and songwriters will notice, of, like, jealousy. I didn't, that I didn't, I didn't think to make something, so good, or I didn't achieve something sounding so simplistic, yet so complex, and anytime they release anything, or you release anything yourself, I listen to every single thing you ever do, front to back, no matter what it is. Your song, a song you're producing on, a song you're writing on, and it makes sense. Do I sometimes I stew the last the last Billy album I stewed because I was like this out But it's not at them. It's like this album is so fucking good Yeah, the production and the way they did it and like it's things you wouldn't think about like I'm like How does it feel so full? But it feels like there's one instrument? And it's just like and then sometimes when when honestly sometimes also when I'm writing with him I'm like fuck. He came up with something so quick that takes me so long and I'm it's so painful for me to figure out Like the chords he does naturally like that takes me like that would take me hours to get that and I'll get there But he does it in seconds. Yeah, this is like what plays in my head if there was a song all day Like this like You know, okay, I'll be right back. You guys keep playing when you're writing music Do you have to light all your candles? I don't have to but man I love it and I especially like so this is a I'll say this I'll say this when he's back to but like you know, Benny Benny like at this point in his life barely does like any work right like when he when you do a session with him Like he sits there, you know, but his vibe that he's provided is immaculate. Yeah, and he can do all of it It's just that he's leaving you room to do your you know creative stuff, right? But he sits there in his in his nice curated space and it always smells nice He's got some in-sensor candle. It makes you a yummy snack You know the environment is so nice and he's funny and he's being you know Asking good questions. So he's pulling all this energy out of you and to me that was like when I was doing sessions for the first couple years I'd room like anyone like that. I'd be like I want to go back and work with him again And anyone no matter how talented they were if like their studio was depressing. There was no daylight I'd be like I didn't like my time even if we wrote something good I don't like the time there. Yeah, and so I've really that's a big Benny take away It's like my studio's got a Smell great. Well because that's what I love about working with you is it's so pleasant. It smells good You got to make a person want to stay there. Yeah, that makes sense because most of the time you have a suck your studio's great Thanks, but most of the time odds wise you're just not gonna write your big hit song You just can't write it every day. Yeah, and so you better have a great time Do you know so many times we work and we actually don't even record something We just go there and hang out and like and like talk shit and then and then we leave. I mean, I would hate it This was if this is the sounds I'm hearing. I'll hang out anywhere. I thought of one other thing when I was in the bathroom There's nothing that's more pleasing to my ear and the thing that I get so jealous of the way you guys do is How you how you and Billy record vocals? She is such a good singer It sounds like she's speaking into your ear and it's a combination of the best voice ever and like being at a level like her where she can She can sing like you've heard her sing like she sings you can make her say that she could sing loud and do it But she's controlling it so small and with Phineas like keeping it like the way it's compressed and like how and then the stacks and You also are the best harmony man. I know you're very sweet. This is all you've really buttered me up man. Now play a song every day I sit down in noodle every day Making that up so you just you kind of have been consistently playing the same type I play something I thought that's nice and then I'm trying to play little melodies on it like okay If we talk for 20 minutes right now and you stop playing we just talk do you think you would remember 20 minutes later What was that melody would you remember it or not even remotely this one? I might because of the tactile Because of it's in my fingers I'd be more likely to remember it because it's in my hands than if I were just month like singing it always does It's crazy his recall. He doesn't write things down. No, he can remember the whole song But sometimes sometimes you don't you know, I gotta tell you know when you came here They maybe it's a public that's kind of sent like here's what Phineas is done. It's like all the things. He's done with Billy Maybe the apple in the mnemonic And I was just Apple Mnemonic the new apple mnemonic Whatever and like the score and then I I didn't think I was gonna say season three of Dave But I was always planning on making this joke Yeah, just didn't even feel comfortable making the joke as I like you so much I don't know it didn't say it but I don't think it's inappropriate I understand why I don't it doesn't mean he doesn't have it on the thing for any reason Like I think it's just he knows Probably the other things that he did he was probably more super involved in definitively. Yeah But anyways so good to see You know I I don't think he'll mind me saying this my favorite Line in season three of Dave is the girl comes over to your house, and I think the finale yeah Or maybe the second last episode and she goes wow this is such a nice neighborhood and you go Thank you Lynn Manuel Immanuel lives nearby. Yeah, which is such a funny weird. Thank you thing to say Yeah, and I told him that the other day Oh, you did like I was like dude It's like if you've seen season three of Dave because there's such a good joke about your name in the show I haven't seen it when he was like I haven't he and then he brought up another one from that show the other two Where they're like yeah, well, Linda Manuel Miranda wrote that and they go oh really the man while Miranda goes Yeah, he goes pretty sure it's Lynn Manuel Miranda and the guy goes why do I have a Linda Manuel Miranda signed to my agency? Which I think is also a good bar. You've got a name ripe for ripe for comedy I can't believe that there was such a parallel joke made in another show. So I thought it was the most random a specific joke I couldn't it's a good joke. I bet you made it first. What's your favorite? What's your favorite artist? Yeah, what do you feel? What are you feeling like right now Kristen and you're in your current life? What do you want to make a song about? I love this sort of like I like gone Spotify and I'll be like I'll like use all Different keywords to somebody should do like a Album just for the background. They do a little twinkly. They do just and it like goes through the night of your mood You know there's an album there's an album literally for airports somebody is it for airports by Brian? I know really yeah, Brian. He knows the background. What I like but I like this it's in and there's only one person that can do it So Kristen, what are you thinking about your life right now? I mean this music is really good for my brain because it's making me not think anything negative I'm just kind of thinking wow what a delight. So but what's your what's your like biggest fear right now? That I won't understand it. Oh, yes being misunderstood. Yeah, read it, but I If you could summarize it. Hmm. This is a hit It's fine and love with him. I don't understand it. I'm falling in love with him Just won't suffice Isn't he so good? Alone away. Yeah, I saw her face. There's something that I've never seen her face to just be like impressed by another man I've never I've never seen her face like what did it do just like instantly just like I just saw the Human face being pressed by man. I agree when I sit when I sit and we're just sitting there Doing stuff. It's so hard to tell what's good because everything's so good And I'm usually so good at yeah, knowing that and then he's just like he'll just like do something and I'll be like Oh, and then like I'll do nothing and I'll be like wait No, like that's a hit to me. I will listen to that on repeat like for hours. Is that not a hit? No Not I think I don't understand if we get too granular of course with the 10 pages at a time it becomes a little No, I love the 10 pages at the time. It could mean anything you could totally anything you can make very broad I agree. I actually serve something you said about the broadness the broadness for specificity and I found that very interesting Yeah, I try to say something like that again. I can get too specific. Okay, it's nice Do you guys want to manifest any dream guest for this sitcom format thing you have? Is there anybody that you're like God if we could get you know, um, who? Barack. Oh, yeah, Barack. I mean, he's just like I we oh, we're out. We're out to to Bernie Bernie's a cool one for me Bernie would be cool Bernie would be cool, but I mean, if we're being I mean, I love but I mean, we're talking about just a Hand knows just yeah, but I'm gonna come in and like sweats maybe I hope I hope he's not coming in a suit We're gonna get a suit often by the time he leaves. He comes I love he's gonna be in a wife theater. Did you guys read his book? No, I can't read if I listened to it. I listen to some of it. The best part of it is the end it ends with him killing Osama been laudan Watch that documentary man, Osama. Oh, I gotta watch it. It's crazy. It's fantastic It ends with him killing Osama and then he it's like three in the morning DC and he walks upstairs to the east wing and Michelle's like so And he goes we got him and Michelle goes that's awesome babe That's the end of the book. Really? That's awesome Getting to be the person that the president is like we killed Osama been laudan and you get to be like that's awesome babe And you come and I also was like I think maybe all relationships are the same I was like that's like so sick. Kristen would you mind showing him some of the show you got? Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on. How insane would it be if I just really? I just laid what you did. - Perfect memory. - It'd be like one chance. - There we go. - Wow. - Well what? - Pretty nice. - Was that good? - Does everything just sound good when you play it? - Yeah. - I'm pushing it, I'm pushing it up. I don't, I really can't play anything. - I told you. - Look at this. You got a good ear. - Really? - Yeah. - You do have a good ear. - Really? - Yes, you have good melodic instincts. I always say it about you. - You just play any white easier, any like this interview. - So fun. - I'm an interview. - Do you like the segment? - It's such a fun casual format. - You were like, like with your friends, so like with rad or like what, you guys ever just like chill and you kind of like snuggle while you're like hanging out? - Not really. - Never. - But you, but yeah, they don't snuggle. But I feel like you did say like I totally understand your guy's his friendship because I met rat and we have like such a- - But, bro man, yes. - Like would rat ever be like this? Would he be like and put his like feet on yours and that doesn't feel weird? - I don't think it's in his impulse to do it. - Like I don't do that with everybody. - No, but you do it with all, all, all, all. - I put it in his way. - No, that's how you do it. - I know. - Don't have that thing. - No, but you have it with hit, you have it with me. - Yeah. - People have funny physical relationships. Some people have such a close relationship and not a physical relationship. Some people are so grabby touchy. - Like you can't undo like the- - Yeah, like me and my brother would like, we'll like, I'll like lay like on his shoulder. - Like doing Billy, no, no, like just chilling and like laying next to him. (laughing) - She's like, what? (laughing) (laughing) - You're not doing it like this. - Just chilling, my sister is no. (laughing) - Are you nervous for like doing the vows? - No, not at all. - Yeah. I will tell you one thing. I am not a nervous person. - Nervous leading up to it. - Totally common. - Yeah, yeah. - That was like the first thing you told me on the dance floor. - Yeah. - It's very sweet. - So nervous. And Dave was the right, I was like, should I print this thing bigger? Like I kept having all of it. - Yeah, I was supposed to just all of it. - Your speech was so great. - You're, you're, I was really wonderful. - Thank you. - Finneas, I heard you needed somebody to play at your phone. - Yeah, if you wanna do it, you're, you're tired. - All right, let's wrap this thing up. - Love you guys. There's someone coming over. - Finneas, thank you so, so, so, so much. - Finneas, thank you so, so, so much. - Thank you. (upbeat music)