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You might have it. Dave's Zoom might be set where it's only speaker. Can you see me now? Nope. Uh, do the grid view, maybe? Uh, oh, maybe, yeah. Let's see. All right, I got it now, but now I got extra people on it, but that's fine. What are you, what, what's up with the, uh, what's up with the vest? Is that, no, it's not. Is that a sweater vest? No, it's a one, it's a one piece, but it's, it's the way it's cut. Looks like a vest. Yeah. It's a one piece. That's all fabric. Got it. What is it for Oral Roberts? I kind of like Oral Roberts. Yeah. Okay. Okay. How, how, how are the holidays? How's everything? Good. Yeah. Good. You know, chaotic, but good. Okay. Everything's good with, with everything? Uh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What was that pause? I'm being, I'm being, I don't know. I don't have anything planned Bosco. I'm not, there's no, I got nothing planned. No, we, yeah. Uh, yeah, we got to get a new piece of paper. That's all. I know. I mean, Dave's got a million things on. Do you decide what we're at Dave or no. Okay. Did you ever reach out to him? No, that was the, you're supposed to call. Yeah. Remember Dave said, he's like, if you don't call, I'm not going to do anything. Correct. And I didn't do anything. All right. I also respected you were pretty busy. No, it was actually like, I haven't traveled since mid December. It's actually the, so, because I know you forget generally, like I don't celebrate Christmas. So it was a very, it's the first time I could relax in a bit. Now I'm back in the grind, like I'm traveling. Uh, I, are you going to, is there a birthday party? No, I can't make it. What, why, what do you got? We couldn't swing that weekend. And then we have a wet, as it turns out, my wife has two girls who are having an engagement party and you're going to an engagement party for the one night. Yeah. We couldn't get my people to watch my roommates for three straight nights. So yeah, there was, it's heartbreaking, but we couldn't make it work. Isn't that the birthday party you said you were going to destroy? Yes. Yes. In a, in a fit of rage as a joke. Yes. Yes. So is that, is it partially like you don't want to be seen there? Cause like when the sprinklers come on at the, say it again, why can't you go? It's difficult to get somebody to watch your roommates. That's called for babysitter. A little bit. Yeah. So you can't get a babysitter for what? It would be leaving on Friday back Monday. I mean, it's over the weekend reached out a couple of months ago. The people that usually help us out, they got stuff going on. Surgery, two months to find a babysitter. Couldn't do it. Couldn't make it work. Yeah. No, you listen, you can't go to everything. You can't go to everything. Like what do you, it's, this is leisure. Like you can't go to everything. Yeah. I would like to go. I think I'm not, I'm going to be out then because I was feeling guilty and I have so much going on and I don't want to go, but I know he really wants people to go. I thought it's like, Oh, Boston was going. I may not go now. No one's going. Well, Dave, you got to also, like if the boss was not going, like I said, there might be some, some malfeasance. No, there's no malfeasance. Hold on. Getting back to the thing. I read, I read the whole receipt and there was basically like, all right, whatever you decide, like Hank, are you going to, is there a birthday? No. Oh, okay. So yeah, no one's going. I, I, I cannot go. And then you were like, all right, I don't know. He's guilting me. Like, something fierce. God's throwing. It's like, I just read that, uh, Tiger Woods is throwing like a, we're here. Tiger Woods throwing like a party at the breakers. A 300 person party with the throws themselves. Who, what men throw themselves birthday parties, like sweet 16 parties for yourselves. I've never heard of it. Uh, go ahead, Hank. I know what you're going to say. DP 40. That wasn't me. That was Gaz and Lewis. True. I was the last one who wanted to do that. That was a paid sponsored event. Fair. All right. So Rico, what, what, what's the issue here? No, there's no issue. It's just, I read out the receipt and was basically like, Hey, I don't have a number. Like you're fair. You're back to your contract. Dave said, whatever you decide, I'm not going to care. I'm not going to do anything. Okay. I've said this a million times. I've absolutely no fear of you going somewhere else. You can't go anywhere else. You're I'm never going to fire you. So I don't understand what, what you're going to do. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. what is what is there a new number for 2026 that's what i'm asking well i i i think you had to propose so i'd be like no way but like you're already making a lot i did well this is deja vu we're going around the same thing what's your number you haven't given it to me i'd say four percent okay so i gotta do the math on them right that i mean that's that's that's as simple as where we were like it was not a yeah but you never followed up agreed all right that's that's fair but uh yeah it was a miscommunication of how we kind of left it off but i don't think anyone was miscommunicated i have no interest in chasing down all the people on month-to-month contracts to to like to to deal with them i mean year-to-year contracts oh okay yeah what not month-to-month year-to-year okay that was my question yeah it's a pain in the ass i actually have to talk to you dave sometime this week but i'm i'm waiting to collect all of the things at once so i don't have to it's a pain i just ignore you call me i deal with it yeah and i want to call you like four times and be like oh this person then this person so now listen the people in that category the hard truth are people that i have zero fear that they're leaving they're lifers so it's like if you're not a lifer obviously we pay a lot of attention to the contracts because they're they're they're out there they're trying to get deals they're getting other offers we have what i call the circus which are lifers and i they're never going anywhere and that's great but i'm not laying up at night on new year's eve watching the dick clark show waiting for the ball to drop being like oh i gotta redo bosco's contract i'm gonna wake up and he's gonna be at fucking bleacher report i'm not worried about that agreed and nobody said that nobody but there yeah there's a formality to it all right it's the new year like yeah you're not but but why you dan's right i said i think i'm verbatim i'm like i'm not reaching out to you if you reach out to me i'll have the conversation yeah i'm not gonna hang up on you but you didn't reach out to me all right cool i respect it that's again that's my apologies my miscommunication my screw up but i also knew again like it wasn't going to bother you over the thing i said what i was going to said it was never going to be a back and forth i don't believe that part of it like that you care about what thing like over the holiday break no i don't believe that you would have just you knew he wasn't doing anything for the It is. He's mentioned how it's a point of contention doing all these contracts. Like, yeah. But there was like 15 days of holidays. You're thinking that. All right. All right. If he doesn't believe it, that's fine. That's what I was. I just wasn't. So what are you going to do? Are you going to actually, are you going to call him or text him after this? Yeah, I'll pick up the phone quickly. I mean, this is kind of basically the same. Yeah, it's the same. It's kind of the same thing. It's basically that's it. Yeah, but like this is, this is pick them. So I would, if I were you, I would send a text at the very least being like, here's 4%. Here's the number. I'm hoping to get this. Maybe I'll tell you to go fuck yourself. Maybe I'll say, you know, I'm in, I'm in the giving mood for the new season. I don't know, but I would follow up. I think you're, I think you're so into, you know, cosplaying as a basketball coach. You want to be recruited. You want to be winded on by Dave. You want Dave to reach out to you. I'm always going to be a victim of my sins. I think I've turned the corner. I think I've changed. What? I'm not a victim of your sins. That also had nothing to do with what I was saying. You just went into like repeat mode there. Yeah. You're not a victim of your sins. You're, you're, you're not. You just went into autopilot. I don't follow. I was just making a joke. Well, you're not being treated any differently than anybody else. Yeah. And I was making, I was making a joke that you wanted Dave to like pick up the phone and call you. And then you just started going, I'll be a victim of my sins. What I did in the past, I can't do that. What I did with Big T, what I did. I wasn't talking about any of that. I was just saying. Because back in the day I used to do that. Like when, as soon as it ended, I'd be flipping out like, oh, I'm fucking a free ass. Yeah. But you're not getting treated any differently. So you're not a victim of your, you're not being paid. Like you're not being punished for being a psychopath who tried to commit murder a couple of times. No. My point is when he says, oh, you want to be recruited. That's a victim of my sins in the past of things I used to do when I was a difficult pain in the ass and this and that, which I've definitely tried to shed, trying to shed that shit. But I also think you did want to be recruited a little. Okay. Well, that's your opinion, Dan. Well, I mean. I mean, it was so clear that all you had to do is text or call Dave in the last three weeks. Okay. So I screwed up there. It's okay. Not my first, not my last. Hey, Pick'em listeners. We're going to take a quick break for a message from one of our partners. Football is back. And with DraftKings Sportsbook, September comes with a boost. All September long, opt in and get a 50% profit boost every game day with the DraftKings Game Day Boost Pass. 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Was he staying with biz now? He's staying one night with rigs and one night with biz. That's crazy. Why is he doing it that way? I, this zoom call. What happened? It flipped because like a call came in on my phone. Now you're upside down. You got to go. Uh, do not disturb mode. Thought it was the no Dave. What happened was rigs. Reached out to Mincy and offered him to stay with him and then, Oh, we lost him. No, I'm here. I'm trying to get into do not disturb mode, but I think when I do that, I'm going to lose you guys for a brief minute. Oh, go to maybe go to sleep. Uh, yeah. Sleep is it. That's what I do. But now it's like, it's a little bit off. You keep swiping yourself out. Yeah. All right. I'll just go with it. Um, rigs called Mincy. It was like, Hey, you could stay at my house. And then want on Don called biz as a joke being like, Hey, Mincy needs a place to stay. And then Mincy saw business backyard and was like, Oh, I want to stay at business. So now he's splitting it up. Date one day at both places. Yeah. It's crazy. Barstool Scottsdale. Yeah. He's doing an event there. Right. Did you see? Yeah. He came, he came in. Cause, cause he, I've told him, I told him from the beginning of this entire thing, I was like, I don't know. Not one dime of Barstool's money is going to pay for any of what this trip is for you. I was like, we're going to, we're going to pay for Tate's flight there and back. And not a single dime is going towards the Mincy fund. And he still will try to figure out ways. So he came in on, on Sunday for the stream and was like, Hey, did you hear about the party we're doing at Barstool Scottsdale? I said, Mincy, stop right now. I know what you're doing. You're trying to get me to pay for this. And then like, like the next day he was like, what if, what if Lucas comes in videotapes, uh, Tate for Barstool after dark. And I was like, I know what you're doing, Mincy. He has this little smirk every time. Cause he comes up with these ideas. Well, I just hope he's not self-aware. That's my, that, and I don't think he is, but like, I don't think he is either. And also I had, I had, uh, Tate and Viva La Stool block Mincy on Twitter. So he can't see the tweets that Tate's putting up. That's good. Yeah. He can't see the tweets. I don't, I do not. I don't think he's self-aware at all. The way he talks, maybe like a tiny bit. What do you think, Hank? He's gotta be seeing these tweets a little bit, but like for the most part, this is how he moves. I know that's true. Like him talking on the phone. He spends all day on the phone. Like he had, he's been offered, I don't know, like a hundred tickets to this game. And he keeps like wheeling and dealing. Like someone offered him free tickets up top. He's like, no, I don't want those. I'll find better than like, so I don't, I think this is how he operates. He also rarely gets the tickets. Yeah. Yeah. What do you mean? I love Mincy. We're, we're, we're pals. He loves widespread panic. I went to a show with him in New York. A bunch of us did, uh, kind of fan, not really couldn't, couldn't care too much. Last year, he talked about widespread panic coming in June, probably for eight months. Like he would just come up to me and talk to me about this concert. We got to go. I'm like, sure, sure, sure. When it comes up, we'll go. When it came up, I had friends in town. I was like, Hey, can you get us those tickets? He's like, yeah, no problem. Could just could not, could not get the tickets. Oh yeah. I mean, I feel like that happens where it's like, he talks about stuff so much for so long and he's so sure about it. You're like, Oh, the tickets are a sure thing. I don't know. But they're just not like you think Mincy's getting free tickets to anything to give? Like none of it. He talked to me about the show for eight months. Like he would just. Come up to me in February and he'd be like, Oh yeah, I also get it. I know the drummer. I know the manager. Like they're going to come to the office. It's going to be, I'm like, great. Awesome. Like, I also like. Mincy doesn't make nothing like Hank's rich. Like, well, we'll get a bunch of broke to buy tickets. Like, I don't understand this ticket thing at all. Well, I mean, I, I told Mincy, I was like, dude, you make money. You could get a hotel and he's like, wow, I got Mexico coming up and all this stuff. Did you see though? The reason why I don't think. He's not, he's, he is not self-aware yet. Did you see the text of him? Like he immediately, the minute he was got biz in the mix, he started texting people for tickets and throwing business name. Yeah, that, yes. That's the most like Mincy thing possible, but, um, it's quite something. We'll see how it goes. Uh, Bosco, are you coming? Are you coming for, for streams? Are you doing any streams with us? Championship weekend for sure. Okay, great. Okay, great. And are you a house house call going? Great PFT today. Later today. Uh, am I on next week? Yeah, we, uh, okay. Nevermind. No, no, no. I mean, we're bad. We're very bad with planning. I request, I asked to go on and I'm, yeah, we're very, no, you're in, you're very, we're very bad with planning with guests. We want to get coach. Uh, obviously he's got something going on this week. So with a couple of left, yeah. Who's coach? Coach Gruden. All right. So I'm out. I'm out. No, you're not out. You're not out. You're not out. It's fine. You're not out. We're very bad planning the guests. Yeah. If you want to do next week, you're in for divisionals. That's great. Sets us up. Actually. It looks us up. That's perfect. Um, how do you feel about the NFL, Dave going into the playoffs? I think we can win the Superbowl. I think we can be done on Sunday. I think it's wide open. There's no quarterback I'd rather have than our guy. Um, so I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm nervous. I, I, I think anybody can come out of the AFC. I think anyone can win the Superbowl. I'm very excited. It's crazy. How wide open. I hate the Monday night game. Hate it. Hate it. I agree with that too. I agree. Why? The playoffs should be done on Sunday. Like it rapid. You lose a day. Yeah. I don't like, I like it. I'm, uh, I'm thinking about going on Saturday night with Eddie. I'm wait, I'm just getting gearing up for like a torture. What do you think on what I said? I said the whole season's a loss. If you guys lose, people have been, I said, don't wake up. Barstool kind of went viral a little bit with people discussing whether, the whole season is a bust if you lose the backers the whole season is not a bust the way you look at the season is tainted that's what i've said from the beginning i'm like it's not because this is a year too early like everything's on the rise ben johnson kill williams been great so it's like the way i would explain it is you if if my outlook for the future will not change but i will look back at this season and be like well fuck that was nothing nothing changed in this season i said it was like the um to a lesser extent the guardians tigers when the guardians caught the tigers this year and won the central then immediately lost them in the playoffs you can't go around being like remember when we fucking came back and won this you lost them in the playoffs yeah but i to me that's none of it's just a rivalry the backer like guardians tigers who fucking care i'm saying like you can't say you can't if you lose to your to to your division rival in the playoffs you can't be like well we won the north yeah but it's oh see i think outside of this i think you almost can't but it it's it's this is such a bitter rivalry i agree with that too if you got if you had this great of a season you win the north you do what you did williams takes a step up you lose to anybody else yeah you'd be like that sucks we lost in the wild card but like all right good things to build on like we'll see how it goes you lose to the packers it's like oh mother fuck it changes the whole no the shit it's it's basically the difference between like oh the tides have actually shifted like the bears are actually taking they won the north and they beat or it's oh it's the same as it's the packers aren't like some old team on the down where it's like oh they're coming down and it's the last you're both young up-and-coming teams in college football back the desmond uh demom williams thing yeah i i have no problem with what he's doing none like i i it's a scumbag move to sign four days and then lane kiffin who's a scumbag signs you and sam levitt's there and you announce during a funeral of another athlete yeah not the best optics but the world college football is in nil the difference between four and six million is a shit ton of money that's like a huge gap for a kid your family whatever nobody's loyal to anybody there's no loyalty in this sport right now at all i don't know that really ever ever has been but the ncaa created this mess eventually they're gonna have to fix it um but i like people trashing him if you're not in his shoes like this is the it is a rough rough dirty gross sport right now and nobody should be held to higher standards if you four to six million that's not 4.1 million that's a fucking shit ton difference so hey i'm never gonna begrudge a kid for doing that yeah like it sucks the world eventually schools are gonna have to step up and maybe they do like you can't force the kid to play at washington you may be able to be like you signed a contract you can't leave i'm not sure and you're gonna sit out like that's what would happen in pro sports but i don't like there's no loyalty so i don't get why anyone thinks suddenly there is loyalty it's crazy well let me ask you this though have you seen what's going on in oregon this kid jayden lamar's running back is transferring he just announced days before the the semi-final oregon's running back room is decimated this kid had a cut me at the longest reception i think last week with texas tech he can play a little bit they're down to two running backs maybe three was jeff schwartz was was tweeting the price first of all i'm not gonna first off you're on the cusp of a national championship like the calendar is fucked up the kid shouldn't leave because you're on the cusp of a national championship i mean lane different agreed that yeah you are last year he's fucked up too but this kid the my point is this yeah it's days before a national championship that's like what more do you want out of college but money changes everything but also this if the if the room is so decimated he's gonna get carries he could play a little bit you can showcase yourself in a final no he's what he's gonna do what he's gonna do and potentially a championship the yeah but then the price would go up that's what he's gonna carry no he should like have confidence in yourself there's no better time to showcase yourself no he he should what i bet you he's probably doing and having a conversation right now is just pay me for these next two games and i'll stay i'll stay on the team for the next two games hey pick them listeners we're gonna take a quick break for a message from one of our partners it's fran from chicks in the office the weather is getting cooler and abercrombie's fall drop has everything i need for the season the best-selling anf sloan taylor pant is a closet staple for me i'm always wearing it to work events happy 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that part i i think it's dave no you have to you have to actually enroll in the school which is stupid you can't just go why can't they do that quickly i don't know i i think you have to enroll in the school at a certain time yeah it's all stupid but but you're right like there are it does feel like we're getting to a point where you could everyone's so scared of a lot of people and they're like i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't it doesn't it doesn't feel like any of it matters i uh and then you're gonna get people gonna be like oh washington you're suing this kid he's a kid a teenager you're not letting him play so i don't know but the whole thing's fucked and it's all the ncaa's fault but i listen i some people may not do it some people some kids may not be like oh i'll stay for four even though i got offered six i bet most would go that's a huge fucking difference yeah and you have people like that the kentucky nebraska kid who's like i don't know i don't know i don't know people were killing the nebraska kid yeah he didn't even sign he just said he was gonna go and then he went to kentucky it's like okay he didn't sign who the fuck cares yeah it's a dirty game the calendar is fucked too because now you got indiana miami ole miss and oregon a little bit penalized for getting this far that the transfer portal starts no that's that's that it's opposite no i mean they're i'm just being honest rica like indiana you think indiana is not killing it in the transfer portal because they basically they and they can basically say look we're in the fucking we just we just housed bama yeah that's one way to look at it i agree i do think it's still fucked up there's still games going on these guys are supposed to be reviewing film working for the and the clock well there's different people doing my my main point to this was you can't single out anybody in this era from lane kiffin to this damon williams and it dirty it's all dirty nobody's dirty in a weird way the dirt is up front it's it's pretty clear whoever pays the most gets it there's no loyalty and honestly like a lot of these kids who fucking knows what their future is like go get as much money as you can yeah it is it is the wild wild west college basketball's in a fucking shit show too we got guys playing nba games or in dress it's no no one's played nba games they were in summer leagues they got drafted the whole thing is a fucking disaster i got one quick question for rico yeah is the is the minnesota daycare kid a rider rico uh i know he did yeah potentially like yeah he's got nadoo lord i saw that wait what happened the unbelievable you can see this dan the kid who the kid who broke like nick shirley the kid who broke the or has been credited with like exposing the minnesota somalia like health kit the daycare scam he also ran a scam on the minnesota daycare kid who broke the or has been credited with like a scam on nadoo and made nadoo think he was uh uh auditioning for an italian movie with jerry and marty mush and they were like had nadoo thinking he was auditioning for a part like goodfellas oh my god i kind of vaguely remember this now there's like a zoom call he's having to do go through the lines yes so he's a little bit he's a rider by proxy for sure i love that yeah i love that i got a rider now on my hands huh this detmer guy who yeah i wasn't the michigan qb coach i wasn't out like i wasn't gonna out my guys yeah he got in touch with you well i i knew it from the last time when we were at colorado i mean at utah yeah what he reached out to you directly no i just okay but somebody got somebody's number you got whittingham's cell phone number and when i asked how did you get this number a rider gave you that number listen this thing works in mysterious ways yeah i want to know that he's got a mole on his staff i didn't even want that cell phone number whatever what do you think of the coach good hire him it's great i'd be happy unbelievable hire i could i didn't expect it at all did you expect that at all i mean i didn't once he left you heard his name had come up a little bit uh i i don't know how long they knew they had him he says pretty quick from after when he left utah but no they a lot of their guys are not coming back and they gotta a great coach so i'm excited we're wearing great for all the shit going on michigan's in great shape yeah they uh the the ohio state fans were mad at me dave because i actually don't know if you use i did you even use this no i saw it i think michigan broke ohio state again i it is true they put all their marbles in their team and then they lose their next two it sucks that i had to like i had but like i just it popped in my head i was like there is a kernel of truth in the fact that ryan day put so much into this game that the minute he won it he was just like yeah he took their gas off the foot off the pedal i also am lobbying for there be an asterisk next to that game i don't even think it should count you can't win a football game and i didn't realize it going in what was going on with the michigan head coach like you that you have no chance when he's he's yeah like uh an inch away from being in a straight jacket i mean he's fucking the assistant it's falling apart he's holding butter knives oh we weren't focused for a game you think we didn't have coaching so i great ryan day beat michigan when we had no head coach no plan no nothing total disarray like i ohio state's a joke that's what they are i i said that was my other angle is that ryan day like imagine being like i spent all this time trying to beat this guy and i lost him last year and then i comes to find out that he's just been coaching with like a boner the whole time yeah like that's gotta fuck you up a little bit the whole team was in turmoil they may never win again and the ohio state's such ohio state that that uh d andy's like we we know what happens we play them 100 times we win 99 in miami they're just losers they're and he gets out coached every big game every big i was that was that one was shocking i thought the uh i the indiana bama rose bowl was one of those moments where i did put a lot of money on it and i wish i had just put like i wish i put everything like i have responsibly because i was so confident going into that game and when i talked to you though you said you were gonna maybe double it down on georgia did you do that i split uh half on georgia half on over so i i basically washed out on that one all fucking year i was like georgia sucks and i fucking hit him big they they tricked me now i don't know if they were a victim of the break the only team that came out was indiana georgia looked like they hadn't played in a half they're up nine and a half yeah yeah they just they just made mistakes at the end like not running the ball on goal line having that that blitz that's you know uh man coverage on the outside with with chambliss like they just had crazy and you know frazier gets hurt so that obviously changes it they can't run the ball as well but i just feel like they just had and chambliss is just insane he's just playing out of his mind he's like he's impossible to bring down some of that'll be interesting to see because miami is gonna get pressure instantly and it's just whether you can run around like you did the other game i like i was more impressed with uh room bane than i was with anybody like i've watched all season i agree but the other thing was like when ohio state started going tempo they did start to get a little gas and you know this is gonna do that all game so it's fascinating match right let's talk about the games um hey pick them listeners we're gonna take a quick break we're gonna take a quick break we're gonna take a quick break for a message from one of our partners feel lucky you should be meet the new lucky one sweet tea from miss peaches the vodka drink that's positively doing good made with real tea and real vodka 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let's talk the game so we have miami miami old miss to start on thursday night old miss is plus three and a half over under 52 and a half what are you are you are you going miami you're going you're riding with dandy boy cane dave yeah i i i yes i'm taking miami they're hot i just am not sold on the sec at all um but my confidence is not i not high i don't love the game i mean i love to watch the game i think it's gonna be a great game to watch i'm gonna take miami but i don't have strong conviction i uh so i'm gonna take the over 52 and a half because i think of the tempo thing i mentioned that they're gonna old miss is gonna try to run tempo on miami to neutralize that defensive line i wanted to take old miss because i thought like i still don't really trust carson beck i think miami is very very good but i can't take him because it keeps nagging me that um almost like how many coaches do they have and this is also the first time they have to play in the playoffs now that's not a rematch yeah so they played tulane they played georgia now it's miami full new prep and i don't i just don't know how many guys how many guys are there doing prep did you see by the way joe judges quote about adversity that was not yes so good he said i used to live next to aaron hernandez so yeah this is nothing good perspective so i'm taking the over in this game uh rico i really like the under okay i really like the under miami's defense obviously uh held a and m to 89 yards rushing uh there was a shitload of wind in that game yeah i mean you can't you can't still 45 on ohio state that was okay like you you can't you can't run on them um they force read to say in the two interceptions i like the defense here i think old miss is gonna yeah run that tempo but i trust miami's defense i think miami's gonna try and set it up with the run back you always worry about those big interceptions um you know he's had his problems he's been okay down the stretch here pittsburgh a and m in ohio state he's got a five to one ratio but uh usf he threw two louisville through four smu he threw two in the big games he's very up and down you always worry about that with them i think they're gonna lean on the run more um and kind of slow it down i like the under here the 52 i really do okay uh all right next game oregon indiana let's see right now the updated line three and a half is it three and a half or is it total 46 and a half is what i'm seeing three and a half and over under 47 and a half okay uh i had written down four so three and a half forty seven and a half i indiana is so fucking good man they're so good and signetti's the man i actually dave you know what i i kind of um i made the analogy there they're similar in not like apples to apples but the michigan team two years ago who just did everything correctly they did not make mistakes they tackled correct you know what i mean like where it's just the the level of coaching on this indiana team right now i think is so high where they're just always in this right place they always get like the you know on first down they always make sure they have a positive play they're just so well coached and they they they were a buzzsaw against alabama so i i don't really want to go against them but i do think it's hard knowing that these teams played each other already yeah it's a hell of a coach i i like oregon uh i think this will come down the wire i i think it's a and they're they're both well coached but the the psychological advantage of losing and i don't put it on the coaches i just think when you lose to a team it helps you so much in the rematch because you know they already beat you they're both very good teams um i thought indiana would smash bam and they did i think this game is an absolute coin flip i'll take oregon posco talked about it with oregon's running back room it's a fucking disaster down to two or three guys the problem is oregon's obviously got to throw it they had 81 rushing yards against indiana in that game neither team indiana only had 111 i think teams are gonna have to air it out so to speak the defenses are very good you worry about more uh four interceptions in his last four games and two in the first matchup against indiana so if we're gonna be throwing the ball just can't fucking turn it over and he's had a propensity to turn it over i don't know if that's the right word to turn it over in the last couple of games i worry about that a little bit i like landing in the rematch i really like i have oregon to win the whole thing i'm very worried about it with the running backs i'm leaning oregon with the ducks i'd like them back in the championship game i do think the rematch to dave's point helps signetti's a hell of a coach mendoza's awesome he doesn't turn it over in the big games oregon's got to figure out a way to establish the run i like the ducks i'll be rooting for the ducks i think the rematch favors them here it's gonna be very very close um i'll go with the ducks and if not for those turnovers i think they win that game because indiana had to pick six right in a big spot no oregon or the pigs picks sorry all right indiana had a big i'm sorry oregon in a big turnover to kind of oregon had a turnover where indiana picked them off to seal it in a really bad spot that's what it was so you can't you just can't turn it over more is turning over too much you can't what more through a bad pick to indiana i feel like in that game it's a long time ago but it was mendoza threw a pick six mendoza definitely threw a pick and then they came back and scored everyone's like you know oh he's got guts he he shook it off that's what i think more's two picks in those games were very bad as well well i pick is never good never good but it was in a no that's not true could be i guess if you throw a pick at the end of the fourth down yeah yeah and they catch it's like a punt yeah you can have a good pick i don't remember his interceptions the pick six is clearly definitely that was the rick six i kind of like that's one of my i would say your admirable traits bosco like when you get something so clearly wrong like and you're building your entire point on something that is just wrong you're building your entire point on something that is just wrong you don't really slow down when you get pointed out that it's wrong you just plow through and continue making your point and just really don't shift it even that much right like the uh and he he doesn't he can he's he's basically he's water he can he can just flow over anything where it's like the entire uh what the last two years dave all we've heard is rick patino is a terrible hire for st john's because they don't have anyone coming after him and then kyle whittingham who's gets hired at michigan he's like great hire incredible hire different sport yeah but yeah but but i think both are great hires like i'm consistent i don't think age matters really dan it's it's apples and oranges michigan has facilities michigan has a base michigan's won titles michigan knows what they're doing they're going there st john's been irrelevant for years but what does that have to do with like rick patino maybe not coaching in five years from now because kyle whittingham will probably i would imagine kyle whittingham will not be michigan's coach if you want to give me over under five and a half years i'll take the under i think you have great five years that when the next cup that when the next rick patino might be able to overcome all that shit within five years the next guy is not going to be rick patino and still has to battle all that shit you know what i'm saying what if rick patino builds it up they're building i keep talking about this practice thing this and that the place is going to be fucking empty on wednesday nights again in january fucking dummies i called those guys out like it was dummies your hatred for st john's is great unless they it's very simple unless they hire one of my guys who is could be anybody chris mullen nah well and my guy for sure but yeah i don't think he's coming back but yeah i mean they hire one of my guys and then and they embrace us and we build it back up i'd love nothing more than for us to watch st john's you're kind of like you're kind of like a mini mincey and like i i i'm not gonna talk to you unless you give me tickets but if you give me tickets i'm in no i don't not really tickets okay well i mean tickets jumpsuits what's the difference i guess yeah but i mean i'm truth i i form a bond with these people though these are become friends with these guys okay uh i'm gonna take the over in this game 47 and a half i'm excited for this game it's gonna be uh we'll see what the i mean the the the danny boy kane we tried dave hardest negotiation ever yeah austin's they had like 13 phone calls with danny boy to try to put that together maybe for the national championship we'll see uh which is in miami that'll be something miami and miami i know it'll also be something if it's miami oregon with christopher yeah yeah true true for what it's worth on draft kings the lookahead lines uh oregon and indiana are favored against miami and old miss whoever comes out of that shocker whoa yeah okay plug in the pals i'm just plugging the pals yeah i will say like i'll say the lines i think miami matches up better with indiana because uh mendoza's not as mobile so maybe that pass rush you can get home versus them and create like they did was saying but what time is it by the way i gotta get going you still got you got like three minutes i mean it's it's almost it's almost 10 it's not 10 yet indiana minus eight and a half against old miss indiana minus five and a half against miami oregon minus one and a half against miami oregon minus four and a half against old miss good job bosco okay there we go all right uh mortals i'm gonna go over the old miss uh the old miss miami game 52 and a half hank i gotta go old miss mincey okay old miss plus three and a half zoopy there's really no reason for us to do whatever we'll keep doing miami all right uh under old miss miami and then ebo has miami minus three and a half is his okay dave i'll go uh oregon but i mean by the both games are kind of coin flips to me yeah by the way this is the last pick them so we'll release the if if bosco and ebo tie again we'll just release it on the twitter tweet it great season boys great season a lot of fun a lot of highs a lot of lows really came out hot out of the gate i'd like to look back at the uh did you see they're on like it still kind of blows my mind i'll be watching an nfl game and there'll be a commercial and it will wake up i know that it'll be nadeau it'll be bosco like yelling at nadeau like what the hell do people think is this pick him that was all right bosco send us off with your mortal it's so hard for me because if the championship on the line you should ride with you guys with the ducks i really really like that under with miami old miss but fuck it championship on the ride with you guys i'm going with ari plus the points but i with that said i really really like that under miami old miss okay i like that over even more now all right i'll see you guys later what what what do you give me see you dave have fun what do you give me that face for bosco uh no i've been pretty good with the big ones hey pick them listeners we're going to take a quick break for a message from one of our partners on game day get sub stacked high at jersey mike's like the number 13 original italian loaded with meats cheese and toppings or the number 56 big kahuna cheese steak with grilled steak pepperoni cheese steak with pepperoni cheese steak with pepperoni cheese steak with pepperoni peppers onions and mushrooms topped with jalapenos and melty cheese get your sub fix on game day and order in store or the jersey mike's app all right now back to the episode yeah i mean i mean i i didn't win rider of the year so i don't have to be obligated who did win rider of the year no we never announced what do you mean announce it right now i i don't know it's it's jager it's it's 2026 i just assumed i didn't get anything in the mail i didn't get any alerts i didn't get anything so i was like all right i guess i tried my hardest to win rider of the year i i didn't win it so it's one of those things it's one of those things you know in your heart then you think you want it i do you want it so everyone can say that no hank can't say it no no no no no no no no no no i am i if it's if if the criteria is if it's in your heart then yeah i am that's that's what we're going on that if that's the criteria well 100 when are you moving to chicago you might not accept it now but in like three years you'll be like you know what hank was right over the year three years ago that's that's the game i play all right fine then i'm not i'm worried about big picture i'm worried about big i'm worried about i'm worried i am you're worried about rico and the big picture and not and not poking them i'm you're just a poker when did i poke this episode that's all you do i didn't poke at all you put you started the whole poking two episodes ago no yeah you did that was the big episode poke what do you mean when you did the numbers what numbers the the numbers of of like the of everything the social and everything you started reading the text advertisers yeah advertisers yeah i was in his corner i was trying to have his back uh this is like i'm brand safe where do we move it no yeah of course when you when you move it let's go i'm a noble guy by the way rico thank you for putting me under them we need you to get great shoes hey bleep that out we gotta go they're they're in he's paid yeah we're boys paid yes okay then they are great shoes wait that got official i think so that's what i'm hearing who knows do you go up to the sales team and just like ask them random questions in the middle of the day like hey what are you hearing about this is my name getting floated around no because like how would you how do you say that's what i'm hearing because like i i don't well i've had community when they plus that's nick mulkey oh okay that's what he does all right that makes sense because i was just saying like there's no way not even a sales like i don't even i i have people i i should know this stuff and i don't like go out and seek it i'll just be told when i need to be told that we're doing something but rico's like that's what i'm hearing like you're so you're just texting mulcahy and asking him for buzz no it's not mulcahy it's you know what a victim of your sins so jackie wants to throw that out there who is it release your story don't be don't pout about it i mean jack you have conversations with people of like yeah and they hey this is pedant or people again people have come up to you hey we're talking to these guys it might get deal with sales guy comes up to you and say hey we're thinking about closing noble like what do you think about this hey bosco can i bounce something off you real quick is it a fellow island boy they said you've been thrown around in the mix you're in that package like you know keep doing what you're doing yeah okay like that's whatever here's what it is man oh i i wanted to ask do you think dave's gonna win this race oh fuck we should ask him i don't know i don't even understand the race i gotta call him right now so no no no no no jesus christ don't call him well yeah he's on he's on it's a good time he's in transit no but he literally do you listen to anything that anyone says he said text me the number or just text it to him he said if you if you're smart you will text me what you want he said text it to him right now say that am i making that up he said text me the number and i'll i'll do the math and get back to you right don't call him right now text it to him right now you just had two weeks to call him and you didn't do it and you didn't do it you're waiting till you know that he has to go to a he has a tea time and you're gonna call him when he's rushing to get to the tea time call him on hole one how is yeah but he doesn't he's he's telegraphed this for you he's told you what to do agreed the car the car is the freest time to talk that's when i pick up the phone a lot i think you text it to him right now and then call him immediately and be like did you see my text yeah see this guy's rider of the year this guy's a rider of the year get the fuck out of here i'm at least telling you what you i haven't been listening to when dave tells you what to do every time all right we just text them all right what did you did you text them yeah okay all right fuck what i text them double what do you mean texting them double like double my own number what what what like i doubled it but you added like you meant to send a couple of zeros you send 40 yeah you asked for a 40 percent rate all right that's what happened all right so we're good i just uh does he text it back why'd you text you're a dick just ass face i texted dave hey dave did you see rico's text just want to make sure you're on it just ask it see like but again though like listen whatever there's a lot of like you don't got it that's a chop you know that's a job you know he doesn't give a fuck about that but but part of it though was hey you can't be a fucking asshole you're not in the end it's very good you've been great understand you've been great but you still want to throw around you're like oh you want to be recruited where the fuck am i going we tried that once before she ran me out of town well because because you you did you did d the the recruiting comment comes from the fact that dave could not have been more clear on what you should how you should proceed and then you just didn't do any of it so that only leads me to believe i think you're a smart guy i i think you i think you can follow directions so my would you rather the other alternative here is that you're just dumb because i don't talk to you like you're dumb i don't like that i rather have aids exactly exactly so which one do you want yeah but in in truthfulness like i'm not a lot like i when he said it i read the receipt he goes all right that's a great speech fucking i don't know if it got you a dime more i'm gonna run the numbers and like we'll see what's going on so like at that point and then you reach back out you become like no you're not listening you're not listening there's a clip where he literally said he said it on this podcast he said you need to call me i'm not going to reach out to you he's on our twitter exactly he said exactly if you do not contact me i will do nothing yes he said this exactly word for word he said that this is where i don't want i don't want to okay let's so i'd rather accuse you of wanting to be recruited free t-shirt at a dance pile if you figure it out and give us the full layout i'm 99 sure that he said all that then i went to the seat where he was still that was the statement that stayed that was you needed you never gave him a number with the receipt do you know how many part of my plan was not i didn't really have a number so you want so you want him i just said you no i just said whatever you think's fair like if you think there's a little bump you do that you that's it that's fair you realize from dave's point of view because i deal with this with you with people here like when someone walks in my office and they're like hey whatever you think is like okay for me no give me a fucking number you don't say oh yeah i'll just float it out like you have to say a number then i can say a number back and then you're good right but we've gone through so much of that hostile negotiations that i truthfully was ready to be like whatever number he puts on that paper i'm gonna be okay with but i think you get that like that was a change you're saying that whatever number because you're hoping that he'll just say a number that's way bigger than what you actually want that's the only way that's the only reasoning that someone does what what you're you're saying you're doing the only reason someone walks into negotiation says why don't you make the first offer is because you're hoping that it's so much more money that you never even thought about asking for okay and if you think that's true maybe but i will say also he says he's a pretty fair guy so he wouldn't just be throwing around a crazy nut like if he throws out that number he thinks i earned it so then at that point it would be unfair dan for him to throw out that number me be like holy shit this again like tony with ralph like you already got a pot like and then more no you don't do that if he says it he's not he knows the market he's not gonna overpay whatever he says is fair so if he came with that number i'd be like okay yeah so you think that way i'm you see my way as well i think it's pretty level-headed no no i i don't think anyone in the world sees him no i rico i'm telling you the truth i don't think hank does not he's not even listening right now there's a late charge from the nine-year-old coming back no one in the no one no one no one operates the way that what you're suggesting no one no office no no boss ever says hey come in ask for a raise but you you don't have to give a number you can just say i want a raise and i just yeah it's accurate and i want you to say the number first boss so you gotta say it and you said it so you're good yeah i mean i was also playing safe too in the sense of like if you didn't think i got a raise there is no pat it's like you like i will i listen what wait see that part again if when we when we got to that tipping point last week and he was like hey it's probably flat there wasn't gonna be any pouting i'd be like okay like i i truthfully believed you do what you do you let the scoreboard take care of itself there's no more back and forth there's no more pouting like i'm i've been pretty confident in my ways of how it's going to take care of itself and we'll see how it goes so whatever whatever you're you're good yeah i'm i'm doing well okay great moving i'm going back on the juice though oh okay wait yeah i really do yeah why it's kind of been unsustainable he went off he went off the juice and couldn't even get more than four percent what's the point no it's not that it's just become unsustainable that's true everyone's like you gotta get off the you know and he did and he delivered and it's like it for yeah like what percentage is being off the juice worth yeah i just i think it like i gotta yeah i think i gotta get back i think you should do whatever is best for your mentals so if you got to get back on the juice get back on the juice yeah it's become it's that's not fine it's a fine line yeah i agree i agree holding it together but it's uh it's a fine line as a rider as a potential rider of the year 2025 i need i need the boss man mentally there because what people forget is like i'm still able to control it when i want i was on the juice last year for the tournament had an unbelievable run yeah this year i should did you know nico harrison in in uh in san antonio it's crazy ditch me at dinner ditch jack at dinner unbelievable run i'm excited for marsh madness rico i can't wait can't wait all right i'll see you all right great year thanks everybody for listening to pick up a year love doing the show with you rico love doing the show with you okay you don't want to say anything back okay i love you too it's been a great year it's been a great year