Hey everybody, it's me. So what you're about to hear is our Twitch stream, Sheerah Exit interview panel number the first from last night. We immediately ripped the audio and put it into the podcast feed so you would have it to enjoy the next day. So what this is is a panel we hosted on Zoom. So Lauren and I hosted it with Josie Campbell and Willis Sharon Sun, Jen Bennett, Noel Stevenson and Phil Lomboy. Six really awesome people who were instrumental to Sheerah existing obviously. So we're gonna ask them a bunch of questions that were submitted by fans and some listeners and it's a really good time. And we're gonna do this all again next Wednesday at 5.30 p.m. Pacific time, also over on Twitch at my Twitch channel, which is twitch.tv/erixigarno. So if that sounds cool to you, you should tune in then. And then it'll also be next week's podcast episode. So it's not like you're gonna miss anything. All right, y'all, hope you enjoy. Thanks for listening. Hello everybody, welcome to Sheerah Progressive of Powers. Sheerah the Exit Interview is my name is Eric. - And I'm Lauren. - And we are so, so happy to have you here. This is, we only call these the Exit Interviews. Let me just get this out of the way because Lauren and I have been doing a Sheerah podcast for about three years. And we figured we'd try to get to episode 100. And to get there, we thought we'd do some celebrations of kind of the entire Sheerah and the Princesses of Powers show. And so we had this wild idea to do like an interview with some of the cast and crew and stream it. And that is what we're seeing right now. So before we throw to them, I just wanna shout out our dear helpers, Tech Tom, who is making this look and sound good. And also moderating the chat along with our friend Tori. So please everybody be kind and nice in the chat. We know you will be and you have been already. We love you. So, okay. I have to give credit where credit is due. This was actually kind of Shane Lynch's idea, as well as M Willis and Laura Sredney. We were talking to all of them on the last season of our podcast and they all kind of noted how, it was a bummer that the last season of Sheerah came out during COVID because no one could like it together and celebrate during convention season, which would be like a really cool thing to do to put a capstone on the show that so many wonderful people worked on. So Lauren and I very boldly email DreamWorks and was like, what if we just did like a panel on the internet and it turned into something really amazing. So that's why we have such an amazing group of people here to talk to today. We solicited questions from fans of Sheerah and our listeners. We got over a thousand questions actually. Many of them about one thing that we will certainly address - You will get to it. - This is over. We promise. But Lauren, I'm gonna throw to you so we can get some more business done here. - Awesome. It's so nice to see you all, all your faces. I've been hearing your voices for many weeks and months and years and it's just wonderful and it's time to see everyone smiling. Thank you all for being here. We're so honored. Everyone in the chat, it's weird. This would like normally be a nice full convention hall at like Comic Con or something and there would normally be applause. So thank you for doing that in the chat. It through emojis and colors and enthusiasm. We can hear you from here. I promise it's just making my heart flutter. Let's meet our panelists. Today we are honored to have Noel Stevenson, who is the showrunner and executive producer of Sheerah and the Princesses of Power. Jen Bennett, who is a director, Josie Campbell, a story editor, editor Phil Longboy, and Willis, who's one of our writers and board artist Sharon Sun. Hello everybody. - Hello. - Hi. - Hi. - Hi. - So we want to start off by just thanking you all for being here and for working on such an amazing show. It took so many people by storm, by surprise. It gave us all something to love during really a horrible time of kind of just existing in general. And the number one thing we got to say at the top is that so many people wrote to us, I think thinking that we were you, expressing gratitude for making a cartoon with such historic representation and being just so progressive politically, which is something obviously Lauren and I love. And it's so great and important. So thank you all for that. - You're welcome. - We start with the hard questions, you know. - Just flattery, like 10 solid minutes of flattery. - And these styles very much like the Chris Farley show. So. - So I do want to tell the people watching live that we got, like we said, a thousand questions. We will not be able to cover them all, but I promise you the ones that we got the most of, we are going to ask. And so hopefully the most people possible will be stoked on the information you get today. I do want to point out that we do have our podcast and most of the people you see before you have been on the show before, with the exception of our new friends, Phil and Sharon. - I'm sorry, yes. Yeah, everyone else has been interviewed on Sheerup Progressive of Power. And so there are some questions that we received that were answered either on our podcast or on some other very popular or easily accessible panels that are out there online. And so if there's something you ask that has been maybe answered a few times before, you might not see it in this interview, but we promise it's out there, we heard you and we appreciate your questions so much. - And I just want to give a special welcome to Sharon Phil. Thank you for being here and talking to us. Like we tried to get to as many people as we could. It's really special to have some of you guys here at the end, especially on the more technical side of things. I know I'm like a writing nerd, but it's really awesome to hear from that part of the production as well. So thank you so much for lending your expertise to this panel. - Yeah, of course. - Thank you, yeah. - Yeah, thank you. - Absolutely. - You ready for some questions, y'all? - Yeah, let's do it. - Let's do it. - We actually are going to start easy. So, I learned. Eric, why don't you take the first one? - Oh, okay. Great. So this was actually my favorite question of all the ones that we got from Amelia Pond, 1818 on Twitter. I think it's a nice breezy way to start things up. - Great name, great name. (laughing) - If you could choose to switch places with any one of the S-pop characters, who would you switch with and why? Now, my twist to that is that also they have to switch with you. - Oh, no. - Yeah, so let's hear from everybody on that one. Let's start with Josie. - Oh, boy. Well, until you said they'd switch with me, I was gonna say double trouble. (laughing) - But double trouble is especially equipped to switch with you. - No, that is true. But I do think that they might delightfully mess up my life just to have fun. But I don't know, I guess I'll go with double trouble. They have the least angst of everyone on our show. I think it'd be pretty easy to switch back and forth and just have fun and talk theater in two different realms. - M, how about you? - I'd say perfuma, mostly because I would love to have her in my place 'cause I just killed another plant. (laughing) - That would be helpful. - And I would love to just sit and meditate and do like, I actually just bought a water coloring set. So I'm gonna get into that. And I was like, yeah, like I'd love to just like sit and meditate and do some watercolors. - Yeah, Sharon? - Oh, oh. - No, the answer you guys all think. (laughing) (laughing) I would also say perfuma, that way I could date Scorpion. - Yes! (laughing) - For people can go take care of my garden. - I need everyone watching to know that Sharon is like the ruler of the buff lady is in our show. - No, it's also partially just. - It's partially just. - Yes, it's just as well. - But like Sharon just had a special place in our heart for those buff ladies and we were the beneficiaries of that. (laughing) - Beautiful. - Buff bug ladies. - I need a buff bug. - Yeah. - Buff bugs. - Buff bugs. Sharon's whole thing. (laughing) - Jenn, how about you? - I also would say double trouble, except for now the reversal of like, I don't know what state my life would be in. We actually switch roles coming back. So maybe Georgia Lance, I want a cool magical library into the one like archaeological adventures. - And they'd be good stewards of your life, I think, or your stuff. - They would clean up by apartment. It is not a good shape. (laughing) It would organize my bookshelves, I'd be so happy. (laughing) - Yeah, well, how about you? - Okay, I actually think I would switch with Seahawk just 'cause he has a flying boat. He's very handsome and I would like to date Ramista. So I feel like that would be like a fun. - Yeah. - Offer squats. You love to do squats. - I love it. (laughing) - He's actually, I'm wrestling like me. So like that wouldn't really work out for either of us. Yeah. We put our characters through so much on the show that I feel like there are a lot of characters that I'm like, they're my favorite, but I'm like, oh, I don't want to be in your place. And that was the solution. (laughing) - And fill you. There's a few, but I'd honestly probably would pick Perfuma as well. I like the idea of like being able to control nature for several reasons. And as far as her switching into my role, I guess I'd probably, she'd probably make like a plan to go into do editing or something. (laughing) - I feel like I would also pick Perfuma. That's a while. I just love the elemental types. Lauren, do you have a choice? I know this is not about us.
but we have some kind of - Oh, I think Frosty has the coolest digs to live in. - Oh, yeah. - Probably Frosty in terms of kingdom. (laughing) - Your life, though. (laughing) - Yeah, I mean, I'm a communications professional and maybe that's not her strongest stupid. - Yeah, in a different way. She just do it in a different way. - She's definitely studied her public speaking. You can't just go to giving a speech. - I can respect our creative differences. - You can probably stand a punch more in your day-to-day too. - Yeah, I would be so excited. - I would be so excited. - If Frosty's like, if there were creative differences, she would just, you know. - Yes. So we wanted to hear from everyone that question. - Oh, now I think I get to get some actual questions. - Yes. So like, we wanted to hear from everyone on that one, but etiquette-wise, for some of these, whoever has the answer can sort of go with it and not everyone has to talk if you don't feel like you have it. - I'm going to see if we remember the answer. (laughing) - Oh, it's been a little while for us. - This is like, "Dictrivial." - And really about four. - Yeah. (laughing) - But it's from the classic Shira show. That's the twist. - Oh my God. - You studied. (laughing) - Thanks for coming to our show. So we got the most by far fan questions about Catradora. Let's see some Catradora hype in the chat, which I'm sure has been happening this whole time. I don't even have to ask for it. So first Catradora question is that the original 80s Shira had a big rogues gallery of villains. What stood out about the original Catra that made you decide, quote, "From Brunton Davis via email?" This is the one that Shira is going to kiss. (laughing) - I'm just like a sucker for like a nemesis ship. There's just something to me that it's just like, there's so much just like spicy like sparks there. And like it was one of the first, they actually, the executive I was working with, on developing the show. She actually kind of, although I don't think she knew that like, you know, she'd be like, "I thought they should have more of a relationship." And my head, I was like kissing. Yes. You know more. I don't think that she quite knew that that was what I was gonna do at the time. But yeah, I mean, it's like, they're sort of like, Catra I think in like, before they brought in Hordeck and brought in the rest of all the masters of the universe characters, Catra was kind of the main villain to Shira. They were counterparts. So it just made sense to me that they would have a special connection. And that would turn into, you know, romance. Just makes sense to me. - So playing off of that, a very saucy question we got from a couple of people is, was the Catra Dora kiss the first kiss that Catra and Adora had together and like separately. - Oh my God, this is dangerous. (laughing) - Isn't it all the way? - It's all leaning in. - Right away, we went there right away. (laughing) - I told my head cannon and she angry at me and insisted that I was wrong. So this might be a bigger thing than I, but you asked me if I had a fan, sorry I got it. We had actually discussed Catra having a kiss from Scorpia earlier in the place that Ruggie would expect it in season three, as just like kind of a sort of like ill-fated romance. And so like that was something that did not pan out. But in my heart, I still kind of believe that like Catra's like, well I guess we're gonna die. So why not? Don't get too mad at me, please. (laughing) - I'm so excited. - Dora, I don't think she's kissed anybody else. I think those are first kiss. She's never even thought about it. They'll suddenly she's like, wait, he's hot. - He's insane. (laughing) - The chat is-- - We're on the back to life. - The chat just blew up there. - Oh my God. - Lots of time. - So they've done. I, Molly got so mad at me when I said that. She's like, no. - Well, we're gonna, I mean, unfortunately, maybe fortunately, keep it kind of spicy because the second, the second most popular question, I'm sure you can guess what the most popular question was, the second most popular question was, at one point, Katra says, she and Dora were growing up in the horde and they used to stay up late whispering about whatever. What do you think some of the things they were whispering about might be? - We all leave for it and look at Noah like that. (laughing) - I wanna know what Josie thinks. - Josie, what are you saying? - That's a lot of fun. - That's actually kind of a question for Katra Nulfi who's gonna be on the other panel 'cause that was her episode. So I don't know if you wanna save that one for later, but yeah, I'm pretty sure she wrote that line. So I think that she'd have more insight. - That's great. All right, we'll punt that to next week. I think that's a great call. - Readvertising for the next panel. - Yes, which we will announce at the end the date and all that good stuff. There was also a lot of questions about Katra's kind of lore. We're gonna try to keep a lot of the nuts and bolts lore out of this, but people really, really wanna know like how did Katra become kidnapped who are her people? Why did she first join the hoarder? These things that exist in a Bible somewhere or was it just kind of like you did what you needed as the story progressed in the modern day or are there answers to these things, I guess, and we know them. - I've said this before, but honestly, the writer, the number of times that we ever said the word magicats, I think is zero. - We did not expect the outpouring. I don't even know, I think I mentioned that episode before, but in a different way. So Josie, I don't know if you remember. Did we ever talk about? - No, I think because we had watched like some Shira episodes, we have mentioned that there's the episode with the magicats and that's why old Katra had the tiara. - But she wasn't even a magicat. She was like an imposter. - Yeah, she had stolen the tiara from her. - I am a queen. - Wow. - I think we spent more time talking about the actress like meowing into her lines than the Lord of the Magic Cat. I think it was a lot more just like, so much of Katra was just like in either like her relationship with the door or relationship with Shadowweaver. It felt like she was her own character, not necessarily like coming out of like, here's the giant backstory. - I thought that she was defining herself in a lot of our talks. I felt like it's safe to us. - Yeah, oh, sorry. It felt like we talked more about Scorpia's people than we ever talked really about. 'Cause we get that wonderful episode that Laura wrote in season four with Scorpia's backstory and kind of the kingdom of the Scorpions. And I remember we googled like, do Scorpia's glow in the dark and just like do Scorpia's stuff. - Do when I have a black light. (laughing) - The entire reason I'm falling. - My favorite Sharon memory is like we went camping in Joshua Tree and at one point in Sharon's just like, it's just Scorpia and like so excited and the were like underneath your tent, I'm pretty sure. - It was a camel spider. - It was either turd. - It was so cute. (laughing) - I think later that same tricky saw like a tarantula was. - Yes, yeah. - Wow. - Yeah. (laughing) - It was amazing. (laughing) - I think it was. - Yeah, I also feel like we sort of like, like with Jen and you were the team on the promise episode in season one. And I felt like we talked, I don't know that we ever talked about like capture story before the horde, but I felt like that was where we talked the most about like, their childhood was like throwing up in the horde and I felt like we sort of like things like kind of like, like that's, or the flashbacks kind of changed a lot as we went. - Yeah, I'm trying to remember exactly how that worked, but I feel like Jen, you've like pitched some of that to me of being like, like, oh, like maybe something like this or something like that was like one of the first episodes where I felt like we really like figured out so much of it like in Phil's editing day. And just like, yeah, I don't know if you remember anything about that. - It's just been a long time. - It's been a long time. - I just remember being like, so basically in summary, catch on heats yourself and that's why. - Like, like, like all of this is not about what Adora has done where it is, but mostly it was, yeah. And to be able to have that conversation on Phil's couch, like, like this while we were all, the three of us were talking about it together. I was like, oh, this show is gonna go places. Like this is like the most rewarding experience I've had, being able to like that sectors character. But yeah, I guess far as our backstory, it never really came into it a lot. Who Katra was was like, she was a orphan and she was defining herself as she went and I think that was something that was really important to her, to be too important to her is like, you know, not being defined by her past or where she came from. - Awesome answer. Jen, you said somewhere back there that Katra hates herself and that's actually, you know, joking, not joking. That transitions into our next question really well. We had a lot of people write in about sort of the mental health struggles of our characters, especially after the show has ended. So any of you can answer this. How do you see some of our characters confronting their personal issues moving forward after season five from maybe some of the interdependence issues in Katra Dora to the squad's recovery from abuse by shadowweaver, will related trauma. Like how do you see some of that healing happening? - I feel like we just poured so much of ourselves
and to these characters. And it was something where we, it would get really raw in the writer's room or in the editing bay. It was just like, let's just pour out all of this, like, trauma and all of this, just stressing anxiety and work on it through the characters. So I feel like I think the characters would work on their issue that we kind of did. Just like, you know, sort of like, like, in the process of talking about it and just think it and confronting it through, in our case, the fictional show we were working on. I mean, I feel like it's just a lot of the characters have trouble saying what it is they really want, saying what it is, who it is they really are or who they want to be. And so that, like, so many of their problems, the inability to see eye to eye and really communicate. And I feel like in that final season, you start seeing that communication start to up. And so that's something that I think that just like, you know, give them to like, hear each other when they talk. And understand what each other is saying and see from the point of view. Yeah, I mean, that's my thought. I also think it'd be great if they went to therapy. Just, (audience laughs) - Therapy is wonderful. - I think that's what her fume is going to do at the end of this. She's just like, all right, everybody sit down on the couch. (audience laughs) - Yeah, that's true. - I also got, I think, for fume needs therapy. She's the most anxious person on the show, even if she's like, I'm trying to be calm. She's speaking out at all times. (laughs) - Yeah, but I think I know I'm like, - I'm like, therapist is, but they have to find one. - Yeah, just instilling like a belief in self-esteem is something I found really helpful in the writer's room and in the community of Shira of just, you know, we all like kind of believed in one another and lifted one another up and finding our characters doing that as well. Like, one of my favorite scenes from this last season is the scene with Scorpion for fume of just like, I believe in you and like, the horde got in your mind and you need to get rid of all of that energy because it's not serving you and, you know, I believe in you, I wish you could believe in you the way I believe in you and that was how I felt going into the writer's room. (laughs) - That conversation like, every day with - It just happened to be at one point. (laughs) - I always think there's that last scene with Mara and Shira in the finale and I just remember that was actually kind of a late addition. And so, honestly, I felt like, it was almost like a conversation that like, Jen and I had had at one point or it was something that it's just like, you deserve to be happy. Go home, go to bed. And you're more than this. (laughs) - And so I was like, yeah, I always like, cry at that scene and I always kind of think of Jen and that scene too, 'cause it was just, it was, yeah. (laughs) - Thank you so much. - I was so like, oh, sorry. - Oh no, I was gonna say it's nice. I mean, as much as we like, all put the store over like the things we're working on and like a little bit of our traumas into this, it also was like the things that like helped us got put in as well, sometimes consciously, sometimes unconsciously. And I think, I don't know, that was like, it was like part of the joy of being part of the crew was that everybody was supporting each other, especially like at the end, everybody, like everybody like knew how to work with each other, everybody was so excited, everybody was like pulling, like every, like it was so collaborative in a way that I've never seen on any other show I've worked on. And like I feel like that came in where like, you know, us as a crew was pulling together to make the show as we're watching our princesses and like X-Ford soldiers pulling together to save the planet. Like it just, it felt right. - And I think Phil's couch was kind of like, our therapy couch on the crew. (laughs) Phil had them as calming off his, and he's just over there working. Someone would just be on his couch. Just like, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm pretty much, you had the plants and everything. - I had music, I had to make sure everybody's coffee. - Coffee in the morning. - Oh my coffee, am I? - I still need it. - I feel everybody. - I said everyday. But yeah, I felt like that was where a lot of all the story ideas came from of just like, wearing our hearts out to each other and then being like, I'm gonna write that in. (laughs) - And sometimes when the fans analyze the characters, I learn something about myself. - Oh! (laughs) - I just kept seeing all of these Adora is ADHD head cannons, and I'm like, what the hell is this thing? - Dude, I'm so excited. (laughs) - Look at that mirror. - Lauren, you gotta take the next question, even though we've been alternating. This is you all over. - Oh, I'm gonna panic. So my favorite character is Angela, my mother and my queen. And this, I asked this question, but so did many of our fans. Was saving Angela ever on the table? Is she alive? What happened to her? Please save us. (laughs) - Oh, how much do we wanna save? (laughs) - We're not working for two more years. (laughs) - We had some ideas, I think. Josie, especially like a great idea that she pitched, or it was like a dream that you had, and then you pitched it to us. - Yeah. - I'm still very attached to it, and that's almost the reason I don't really wanna talk about it, because if we ever do end up doing anything like that, I want it to be a surprise. - Yeah. - But like, you know. - Do we know? - Is it the one that I think it is? - With the thing? - Yeah. (laughs) - The one with the thing. - The one with the thing that happens after. - The thing in the place, in the first and in the floods. (laughs) - I will say, I think the reason it just ended up, like it's a pretty jam-packed season anyway, but the reason we ended up not doing it, was just because it did kinda feel like, you know, especially for Glimmer's arc, like she had just gone through this momentous thing, losing her mother, and it also moved into this place of ruling, of being the queen. And it's actually something that happens in the original Shira too, like Glimmer's mom 'cause missing, she becomes the leader of the rebellion, and then her mom comes back, and so she just gets demoted. And then she's like the kind of butt monkey that everyone makes fun of all the time. And it's just, I was so bad for her. It's just like, you know. And so I guess part of it was just wanting to, you know, really see Glimmer come into that place of being a queen. But I still think it's a great idea, and I hope we can do it someday. - Yeah, that just that? - It's part, just that the kind of really fast, the stuff that I would see in the writer's room when I'd peep my head and was just like, "We went into the last 26 episodes, "knowing that it was gonna be the last 26 episodes, "because that was what was ordered." And also I think that was all that we had in us at that time in New York. But that did mean that like there was so many awesome ideas that you guys had that I saw that kind of had to get put to the side in order to honor the characters that we were with. - It was always fun, 'cause we would know when you guys have come in because like, I think of Diana did this a lot, but all of you guys would leave like post-it notes with like your own suggestions trend and stuff. So like what if we were more shadowy bird? (laughing) - Yeah, true. (laughing) - I like that note. So my secret head cannon for this, because there's some line where someone tells Adora to go back to where it all began, and then like Angelina, you know, gets whatever happens that happens. And so in my head I'm like, where it all began, what if Angelina's on Eternia, which is such a good segue into my next question that a lot of people asked. So I know there was like rights issues and stuff regarding the classic Masters of the Universe, "Heman" characters. A lot of people wanted to know if there was anyone you would have loved to use if you could have, especially Prince Adam and especially poor Montana. And then Nathan Henderson asked an incredible question, which is if you're familiar with these characters, what relationships of theirs would you have used to kind of queer the text of Shira even further? 'Cause I think Motu's pretty rife with potential there. - Well, I think that "Heman" and "Man's" would be data. And "Heman" would be something that he meant to know. - "Heman, Montana. I ship it. Oh my, new favorite ship. - Make it happen. (laughing) - It's okay on it. - Like some people are drawing that right now, because you just uttered that portmanteau. - I could see the hood of the song. - Who would question who we would cast? - No, who would you? - Just who would you have liked to have used if possible? - I mean, I would have loved to see in "Skeletor" and cast Franklin Jell-A. - Oh, wow. - It's a lot. - Langella over Alan Oppenheimer, huh? - Yeah. - That's a great pull. - Mingus, what do you think? Mingus is still cat. He's the most beautiful cat in the world. You are all big and cluster right now. - I mean, Mingus got to play "Me Log" in a true original animatics for the last season. - One of her voice actors is present. - Yeah. - Oh. - He was cat. - All pets are celebrated and welcomed on the live stream. If you have any other ones, feel free to bring them over. - Yeah. - So I think it's kind of hard to say with him, man, just 'cause it was never really a time when that was on the table. And so it's just like, it hasn't ever really been part of my perception of our characters or, it's just always like, there are a few times, I think we tried to like, pay homage and sometimes we could and sometimes we couldn't, but it's just like, yeah, he man has his own thing going on. He has several shows and production. So yeah, it's kind of hard to actually imagine him in the story at this point, not to say that it could never happen. It's just, we need some thought. - You gave us, you gave us, [BLANK_AUDIO]
- I mean, I'm into it. (laughing) - A lot of our listeners and just the fans of your show wrote in to say that they admired you and all of you and the work that you do and the jobs that you get to have every day. So many of our friends asked if you have any advice for people who are trying to write, draw, or create their own animated version of your show. So, I think that's the most important thing to draw or create their own animated series. And specifically, if there were any education or tools you could recommend, and one person actually also asked about how you handle rejection. So just kind of any part of that you'd like to vamp on for our artists at home. - I think I'd be really here from, 'cause everyone here has like a different super important job in animation, and they all create these stories in different ways. So I think it'd be really cool to hear from all you guys about how you find yourself in this role, and what tips you get for other people hoping to have a similar role. What if I want to sit jump on that? - Very well, I'll jump in first. I was gonna say, I feel like everybody's watched how we deal with rejection and trauma. It was right in cute rock. (laughing) But I know on the writing side, like a little bit more than art, like there's just so many different ways you can get into writing. Like some people start as assistants, some people started, like I was a PA. I'm like music videos and commercials for years before, like I started like writing. I think the biggest advice I guess I would give is just to write to like always be writing, find other people who also want to write, form writers groups with them. Like my first job came off of me finishing a spec script like an hour before I got a call from someone being like, hey, we've got it, like, did you want an interview where this, do you have any writing samples? I was like, yes, I do. It's great, I've had this for so long. But like that wouldn't have happened if like, I hadn't been dedicated for years of just like writing, writing with my friends, finding other people who are interested in writing. Because also a lot of the people that I did writing workshops with a lot of my fellow like PA's, fellow friends, fellow baristas, like wherever I was working, just once one of them got a job, they sort of were able to recommend everybody else. So it was sort of like a lovely network of people all starting out all sort of dealing with sort of the same issues of like, how do we like, how do we write, how do we spend our time, how do we network? And it was just like a really, like, it's just really supportive and really helpful to find other people who love to write as much as you. So yeah, my recommendation is just right. Right and find other people. It doesn't matter if they've already got a writing job. Often the best recommendations come from your friends or people you've met because you share this passion. Yeah, and just since I'm in similar categories, similar path. Yeah, you know, right as much as you can, read as much as you can too. Like I come to writing as a reader. Like I was, you know, like as a kid, you couldn't pry a book out of my hands and I read scripts so that I could understand the format and, you know, be able to write my own scripts. And that helped cultivate my voice. And then just working, you know, if you want to do the Hollywood root of just working as an assistant, that's the way I did it. But yeah, I think the advice for if you want to be a writer, start writing. And you always have, you always like put those like references in the script, which I always really noticed. And like it was really cool. All your episodes are these like mishmashes of different genres. And like it was just like, I don't know, like more mysteries and like that's straight up like, you know, reference to these like clue like murder misreadiners and I just wait. Yeah, I always really, I always really enjoyed seeing what references you would make in the script. I know I was like, no one's going to understand that this is my last of Sheila, but I will understand. [LAUGHTER] - Yeah. - Do you want to think about storyboarding? - Yeah, sure. I guess, I guess the thing that I would just say about like art in general, I think what mattered to me a lot was just drawing what I wanted to draw. I feel like a lot of people chase after like fandoms or like certain styles or stuff like that. The whole time I was going through art school, the teachers were like, don't draw anime. You won't get a job this way, et cetera, the usual. But it was like, because I drew anime, trauma was like, I was recommended onto Sheila because this is an anime-ish style kind of show. And I was like, oh, so there is a place for this, yeah. So like, if you draw what you love, it'll show through. And people will notice that. I think it matters a lot more to be honest with yourself and do what you really love. - Yeah. And I felt like we always like, again, we would write, like you were so clear of what kind of stories about characters you were passionate about. And so whenever we like, you know, we would draw scenes just for you because we knew that you would like to push it. And it was like all the emotion, all the like buff ladies with rippling muscles. - You were just saying-- - Yeah. - --carroters crying, yes. [LAUGHTER] - You know. No, it makes a big difference to, you know, the producers and the writers, because it's like they do pay attention and show-- your passion is like Sharon does. Like, it changes the course of the characters because that always comes through. - Yeah. [LAUGHTER] - Jen? - Yeah. I've heard about Sharon too since her concept similar. Yeah, actually, honestly, seconding everything you said, Sharon, and for me too, I kind of had-- I did do the part where I drew for myself. I drew fanart. I love what I drew. It was like my entire life had just been drawing for myself. When I decided I wanted to get an animation, I took a lot of classes, kind of like expanded my way of drawing. I did a lot of action adventure stuff, like superhero stuff, from the first five years of my career, which taught me a lot, but was maybe not my wheelhouse. And it kind of burned me out, honestly, after five years. And so when she was showed up, I was like, wait, this? I want to do this. And it really-- it kind of made me feel like everything was worth it. And it was a case where it was just like, I was drawing what I love. And that made all of the difference. It maybe industry suddenly seemed like such a magical place to be in. So I'm really grateful to the show and to the crew for making something that I could be so happy to work on. - Hell. - Oh. I don't know how interested people are in editing. But-- - It should be. - I'm in it. - I'm in it. - For me, I was always open to any opportunity that was out there. But my main focus initially was either music or film editing. And that's what I studied. But when I got out of school, finding those jobs are really hard. So I knew a lot of people who also kind of went through the ranks and had issues getting jobs, but they finally did. So networking's important. So I ended up getting my job at Dreamerx because of our other editor on the show Michelle. So I had never done animation before, but I knew music editing, I knew film editing, and just those two obviously applied to animation, like the rhythmic timing and knowing emotion and all that kind of stuff. So being open to all different types of creative fields is helpful. You never know where you can land. And I don't know. I kind of did pretty good on she-ra. - Music is good. - You're OK. You're all right. - I like to talk about things like music, temps, that lovely. - Yeah. - Every time we would see an animatic and I'd be like, what is this score? The score is amazing. And it's so perfectly like in captures, you know, the emotions and the feelings we were trying to get through. I still listen to the like the score you put together for the Princess Prima episode. And just, yes, me too. You made an 80s movie for us. There's actually, so I did this. I had my secret catch and adora playlist going before the final season. And I was like, as a fun little Easter egg, I decided to put this temp score on that filled with music. Everything is from the leftovers. And it's like this really, really beautiful or custom piece, and you put it on every emotional scene. And so it would just like, I just listened to it and I just started crying. And he put it over the scene and save the cat where Dor first turns into she-ra. And it's so soaring. It's so beautiful. And so I thought that would be fun to just put that as an Easter egg. So when you listen to that, you can kind of like imagine it over that scene. And kind of imagine the emotion that we were experiencing, like watching those cut of that scene so often, like, I would be surprised by what he would put in. There was all of it. He had such a passion for music and then also for sound effects and setting the scene. And it just was so truly immersive. It's like some of the most high quality animation and amatics that I've ever seen. And it felt like you were watching the real episode. And it's something that I feel like people don't always realize about animation. They do maybe think that about the writers and the board artists, but editors have such a huge hand in crafting the show that you see. They're behind every single decision in so many ways. And so it's like, I learned so much just from watching Phil. And like, I will now just randomly burst into tears whenever I hear that one song from the leftovers. You're welcome. You're welcome. That was shadowy. And Phil and Jen come together to surprise something in the animatres. It's just like trying to get in front of everybody and they were successful. So yeah. That was a real partnership with me and Phil of trying to one up each other and make Noel cry. And then also Sharon too, like all of the borders, like I think what Tom Kramin talked to you Phil and be like, well, this is what I add in mine. And then you in turn would surprise me. I'd be like, what? I'm like, how could you turn me?
Obviously it's staying as this. My favorite moment of that, because I gave this one to you. I told you how I cried at Fan Home with the musical. And there was this one's very end of Fan Home with the musical that I just like lose it at. And so I told him about that. I walked right into it. And he put it over the scene in "Promise" where like I don't remember exactly which part, but it just like came out of nowhere as I'm watching this animatic suspecting nothing. And then I'm like crying. I'm like, what the hell, Phil? I told you that in confidence. Oh, shit, I'm sorry. No, no, I loved it. Are you kidding? It was amazing. So my very important follow-up question is as many of you know, I'm moving to Hollywood. And I'm wondering if any of you would like to read my Sheer aspect script. It's called "The Return of Horde Prime" colon this time, comma, it's personal. I really-- no. It's great, guys. I have a great career here. No. So many of you do know for real that Lauren and I have a podcast that kind of talks about like progressive sociopolitical issues mixed in with Sheer. We got quite a few questions along those lines. There are a couple I would like to pitch to you all starting with. Obviously, Sheer is a big milestone and means a lot to so many queer people, young and adult as well. And we had folks who wanted to know, is this the moment to do similar projects? Do you think that studios are realizing the hunger or need to have shows like this with LGBT relationships for the main characters? And that comes specifically from Sarah Kawa on Twitter. I think, yes, absolutely. We're seeing it. I mean, the fan is so vocal on Twitter and trending us every week. I said this before, I think, during our charity livestream. But you don't know how or that you have. And you don't know how many people are watching our younger generations to see what the future of animation is. And so right now, I think it is an incredible moment for this. And it's so exciting to me because the more characters, the more shows, and the more diversity of those stories that we have, the more stories they can tell, it helps all of us. It helps everybody. I think for so long, it's been like, here's the one gay show. Here's the other-- that can only ever be one. And I just-- it just roaps you in the corner. It makes it so that your story-- I don't know. When you're the only-- there's so much pressure on it being perfect. And when those stories are being made by so many different types of people, the potential for what stories we can tell it opens up are unimaginations open up. And so I think it's an incredible time in the industry to be pitching stories about LGBT themes, LGBT characters who are at the forefront and are out about who they are. I am very, very excited in this moment. I think we're seeing such incredible leaps and strides and I'm just really honored to be a part of it at all. And I hope to be able to continue making more of these stories. This is about as high-neared lore as it gets, I think, in the questions. But we've had a couple of people ask, given that Katra used to be a member of the Horde. And there are now Horde clones everywhere. Is there a justice system in a theory? And how do you think some of these characters may or may not have to confront their crimes? I think we discussed a reformed Horde B. Silent Cleanup mission in Traptop Promise, the robot at the end of season four, that she'd come back for him. And so I think that-- or her. And I always wanted to see that. I just wanted to see the-- it just seems like a really kooky, fun, body comedy with Hordec, like learning to love these strange creatures. How imperfection is beautiful. But then we also kind of thought, I think that wrong Hordec would be kind of like-- he would help reform all the other Horde clones and show them the way, but maybe also accidentally start his own cult. [LAUGHTER] Because that's what he knows. He's talking about joking. It's just like, OK, Hordec and Intraptop are cleaning up B. Silent. She's probably bringing home more clones every day. And then like, probably wrong Hordec is hooked up with Swift Wind. And they're both being like, yeah, yeah, we're going to keep the revolution going. And so I can absolutely see him accidentally forming his own very positive, brothers, centric, long group. All positive. Yeah, I do think they do have a justice system, though. I feel like that's sort of like Bright Moon and Glimmer and Micah, and like that would kind of happen in their court the way that we've seen them do in the portal reality. So I do think that the characters who have not yet paid for their sins, they will be rehabilitated. And everyone will be happy. And no one will be sad. Oh. No. Yeah, it sounds like it's not as much a punitive justice as a rehabilitated one. Restorative justice. Restorative, thank you. Yeah, like cleaning up like a theory is, you know, so damaged from years of this war, like the way for the characters who've contributed to that damage is to really show that they've changed is by fixing it is to help fix it. So I was always my trip. Oh, I was going to say that was always my favorite part of the two-per-finally. Because like, like, we rewrote the finale, but like so much of it got shaped by Jen and Kiki and Phil and she and all the board artists. And like, I don't remember, I don't think that that moment where the like, the, the hordeship turns into a tree was in the script. Oh. But like, you guys put so, the artist put so much like thought into the fact that she re heels. Like the last thing she does in our show is it to destroy it's team. And like, that's, oh, sorry. No, go for it. Oh, I just wanted to throw out that's a Jess Zammett, who is, I think, going to be on the other panel. So it was one of, like, she was always pitching stuff like that to us. And I remember that scene because in the script it did say that she blew it up, like, she blew up the hordeship. And we had made sure to like, imply that all the clones had exited and everything. It wasn't going to be like mass murder, but it was going to be destroying. And Jess was like, that's not what I thought that this was about. So like, here's my pitch, which was just like the trees of rupting out of the ship. And it turning into this like beautiful green, like, jibbly-esque, like, like, vision in the sky. And I just, I loved it. I just, I was, I thought that was when I felt like my favorite thing is when the board artists and Sharon and Jen and Phil, like, they come with these ideas that I'm like, oh my god, of course that's it. I can't believe we didn't think of that. Like, we're supposed to be the writers and you guys are like bringing the story to life in this way that it's just like, honestly, we're just trying to keep up with them. So, so often. >> And you let us like, it's because you guys were so consistent. And so like, the strips that you gave were just like, okay, I feel this. All right, I have ideas. It was so rewarding to work on. >> All right, here's the actual tough one. We had a couple thoughts right in about this. Someone named Ajah, aha on Twitter, particularly, but I also would love to know this. So there's kind of a lot of, there's motifs of like colonialism in this show with Hordex conquering of a theory as kind of the original sin of that. But I also think there's ways in which like the first ones represent this like colonial presence, particularly as some of our listeners have pointed out. Because when Mara transforms into Shira, she becomes like this blonde white woman, which is really kind of interesting. I just wonder if are there any thoughts on like, on how that all went into this show? It's obviously kind of a complicated issue. There's no clear reading of it, but do you have any thoughts on how that informed the politics of the Shira world? >> I think that it was about colonialism, but also I think it was, it was a lot about religion as well, organized religion, and which often intersects with the religiousism. >> Yeah, they go hand in hand. >> So I think the way like someone like Hordex who is a colonizer, but is also brainwashed, and it's also has been sort of like created for the purpose of serving this almighty being. And there's all those, it's a very complicated subject. There are all these intersecting issues when it comes to, you know, even just Hordex and his role in the story. I think when it came to Mara, like it was, the blonde hair was a mistake on our part. It was something that was like, I did see it as something that was a colonist sort of like every Shira needs blonde hair and blue eyes, including Mara. Her skin doesn't actually change color, but there is a little bit of a filter on those scenes in the past, a little bit of a golden nostalgia filter, which looks like her skin changes color, another huge mistake on our part. I think that it was like, you know, whatever our intentions were, like it was a huge deal to have a brown Shira. And I think that like we know better now. We shouldn't have done that. And I'm not going to do that again. But yeah, I do think that it came from this idea of like Mara is also being pressed in as heroic as she is as just my idea as she is. She's being pushed into a system that is sort of flattening out who she is and taking her agency away. And that's what she's fighting against. But yeah, at the same time, it's like, if we had the chance to do it again, that's not how we would do it. So it is a story about I think rising up about, you know, fighting against injustice. And we tried to reflect that in every way we could in the story, but it's also like, you know, we made mistakes. Really do appreciate the fans making it clear when it's not good enough, because those are things that we need to hear. Those are things that all creators need to think about. It needs to be something that's very, very thoughtful. And so, I mean, having that discourse around it, having
that kind of like dialogue is a really, really good thing. So I really appreciate that and I appreciate you guys expecting better from us. I mean, to me, I'm sorry that sounded like I was trying to attack you all too, because I actually, I've seen dialogue around it and I think it's a really good dialogue and it is something that I've wanted to talk about and try the best, but, you know, I think it's a good time and place. I just, I kind of read it almost like, you know, how the more Star Wars movies you watch, you kind of start to figure out that the Jedi are bad guys too. And in a way, that's how I looked at the first ones. And I remember having talks with Lauren and with some of our guests about how, how juicy it would be to explore the first ones like in a fully colonial setting. And I think there's part of that there. But yeah, it's really interesting, Lauren. I think it does add to like the kind of sociopolitical pastiche that makes the show so interesting. So thank you for answering that question. I think also just to piggyback on it, but I think the show talks about the mistakes of generations too in a way that I've really loved because I think that's something we all deal with. It's just like this was right, or this was seen as right 50 years ago and certainly not right today. And it wasn't right back then either, but we're all kind of learning. And I really appreciate that about our characters is that, you know, we have these mom figures who are making mistakes and, you know, glimmer gets to step up and be a better, a better queen maybe. And lead some, you know, a lead or a revolution. And I always really love that about our characters and that type of story telling too of recognizing the wrongs of the past and trying to fix it. Though it's like we've bribed you M because the next, the third part of our, of our interview here, we want to do sort of a quick fire. Like I said, 1000 questions so much to get through. And so there's some real like finicky stuff that it can be yes or no, it can be one sentence. And the first one in our quick fire is who gets to rule bright moon now. glimmer. All right. Yeah. Mike, Mike, it's more of a region. I think it helped for sure, but glimmer is like she's already been, you know, crowned. I think he might find wherever more mist is dad has retired. They've got. Oh, yeah. Dad, I learned that island. Island. We talked about mom planet where all the moms. Given, given that I'm like, I'm sort of like an ancillary part of the fandom. Like I'm not a creator of the show, but I have the podcast I have referred to myself as the wide mom of the fandom. And I'm glad there's a place. There's a whole planet where I can go. But you won't be having to Lenzela is there with you. She might be there. We didn't answer it. Is that is Angela on mom island? Is that the big secret planet? Waiting for us. I think you're having a great time. All right. Another quick one is and trapped us hair natural or technology. Oh boy. I always thought it was natural. Yeah. I think Ray might have had a different and Ray designed her. So I think that there is technology in her hair. But I always thought that her hair was also her princess power. That's my opinion. That's kind of my interpretation too. I can't believe we're about to ask this one Eric. I can't believe you put this in. I love this question. If you catch, if catch, if you catch, it's a little bit of a problem. I think that's what I think. I think it's not an episode. She's cleaning herself. Why you got to make a damn washcloth. There's other ways to get clean. Some dry shampoo. My preference as well. Why is that gross? You have so much hair. What is Shira's sword made out of crystals? Magic, friendship, love, rainbow crystals. You watch every first one's thing is a crystal. I looked at the rock, which is a crystal. Thank you, Josie. Okay, in Trapte Deck people in the chat, where are you? Let me see some in Trapteck in the chat right now because the question is, does Hordeck ever realize that the crystal on his chest says loved? Do you think what I can read? That's why it's a question. It's a general. It happened. Name. I think I'm wild. I don't know if the Horde has a written language and I don't know. I definitely don't think that Hordeck knows anything about first one's tech. So other than what in Trapte showed him. So maybe she tells him. I was going to say, would she tell him? I don't know. She might just like always laugh and just assume he knows. She knows. She knows. If she just find a crystal that happened to say, I don't know. Perfect. She just found it on the ground. I mean, maybe it said love because she found it. It's actually spelled backwards. It's bull. Yeah, the depth level. Lunch. It says lunch. Yeah, it says lunch. Trevor, Trevor, no. It's just random. Are there other runestones or princesses? We have not met yet. I think I've always thought that like the runestones that we see in the show and end in the graphic novel, they get into the missing fire runestone, which as writers, we were always kind of talking about. We wanted to use it, but it was a pretty big, pretty big episode the way we were pitching it. And we didn't have the resources for it at that time. So we always kind of thought that there might be other runestones that are defunct. You hear George and Lance talk about that. There are shards of runestones that are working. I think the runestones that we see in the show are the ones that are up and functional. Kind of like elemental runestones, but there are a ton of other princesses who have other powers and are also tied into the magic of the theory. So like in chapter, Spenarilla and Natasha, like all these princesses who don't power. Have the magic they're charged by magic of the world. It's like sort of that was that was how I viewed it, but I think we definitely confused ourselves a little bit with the greenstone. That's all the same. It's been an hour. Do you want to see it? Everybody in the chat. Here's the big one. Okay. Literally over 200 questions. In fact, someone emailed us about five times with this very question. The same just over and over. Yes. So we hear you. Okay. What is next for Shira? Will we see graphic novels, comics, a Christmas special maybe with revelations, a sixth season, a movie, an RPG source book is. Is there anything you can share with us? You've brushed over the word movie like it was just part of a list, but I need you to know that so many of the emails were just the word movie. And all counts. Yes. I was movie movie movie movie movie movie. The future could hold many things for all of us. And I think that if there were a she removed the all of us would be very excited to be a part of it. We don't control those things. And I really, really appreciate the outpouring of support that all of you on Twitter have been showing. It means so much not just for us, but for all of the other people making other shows who. Now they have like an example to be like, look, this is this is successful. We want this so much like we can do this on our own show. And so like I can't like overstate how much impact you have as a group. So thank you. Thank you for showing us that support. Thank you for sharing that support to you know. All the shows that have LGBT content. I think it's huge. You're doing amazing work. I'm not going to say anything about it. But I can't really like say either way. And it's something that like again, I would love to do that. I don't. I don't have any news on that at this point. I think that you have inspired so many people by not directly refuting the premise that could be a movie. That's the cash tags will live on. And I think that's to revisit a theory and I would love for it to be a reunion of all these amazing people that you see on your screens. Like I just want to you know, hang out in the office again and watch him like, you know, alarming knuckle cracks into the scene that we're watching. And freak our executives out. And I hope that we get that chance again. But yeah, I think the future, the future is bright. The future holds many things. I hope I hope to, you know, be able to whether it's a sheer movie or something else. Just keep making stories for you. That's beautiful. I think we only have one more and it's another group question. Lauren, I think this is in your your core here. Sure. You can take this one in many directions.
As I sure I'm sure you have before but please share with us how has working on Shira affected your lives? Oh, I'm gonna cry Can't start yeah, let's let's go reverse of how we open so let's start with Phil. Oh, man I don't know. I mean just to start like I have a genuine family with this whole crew like I Can't tell you how much love I felt just being a part of the show. I mean, yeah first it was a job But became like something bigger because we were through the trenches together and we learned to be friends with each other and love each other and be better for it and I don't know. I'm still friends with everybody now still and like I'm happy that I have you in my lives and it My life is so much better for it and it's also offered me opportunities for work to do better and cool things It's not better but like other nice cool things. So I don't know my life is infinitely better because of the show through many reasons It's crazy Yeah, no, I don't know No, well I mean just seconding what Phil said I think we had a like a joke that maybe started as a joke But it wasn't for me it wasn't a joke and it was that Shira taught us how to love That wasn't a joke 100% met that you know starting out. It was a completely different person. This was almost five years ago now and Like through fire and through you know like some of the hardest Stuff we've ever done. I think I just I've grown so much as a person and I do like all of these people are like you know So so our relationship our friendship our working relationship the show that we made together is always going to be so Just one of the biggest and brightest moments in my life and the opportunity to do it with these people is It just means everything and and both as like for being proud of the show being proud of the story that we told in the characters That we brought to life, but it like so much more than that. It just felt like I was really like living in Atheoria with these characters with these people who like Made who poured their hearts into it and made it real and I just like you know, I'm never I'll never be the same again in the best of ways and I'm just really glad to still have all these people in my life And just to know them because they're all amazing and everything that they do follow them wherever they go because they are solid I know Everything that has been said so far. Yeah, like I kind of alluded to it before too, but like my my Career up until she wrote I really appreciate because it taught me so much I learned so much at every job, but like Sheerah was the first show that I worked on where I felt like I sat down with the script and I was like this is it This is exactly like I understand this. I've been really intensely relate to this I want to show to exist This is a show that I wanted to work on without ever realizing it and so like as hard as it was it was so important For me and I think for everybody else and I know hold on to each other and help each other through the really hard times to get towards the end Where we really just kind of gel together and we're just like yeah, this is it like we got to we got to do it I'm so proud of Everyone who worked on the show at any point Because it just it really did change my life like it made me a better person it made me a better manager And yeah, like it's opened a lot of professional doors even afterwards where like people will ask about the show and how it was Working on it and it was I can always think as a gift It was like such a gift to be able to collaborate with so many amazing people Sharon how about you? I mean yeah definitely what everyone said before like it just She was like I had one job before this but just for a few months like this was the show where I went from like revisionist to board artists and it's just like I I figured out so much about myself like not just career wise, but also just like as a person wise like Yeah, and it was just the most amazing opportunity to work with like People that you feel like you could really talk to about anything and just like you could collaborate with just yeah It was the first time feeling like part of a really big like family and like finding Somewhere you like I was really happy to go into work every day. It's just amazing Yeah I'm how you feeling you ready for this I You know I'm going exactly what everyone said of You know this community this crew the writer's room. It was It was something really special and It was my first staff job too and I feel like you know I got a chance to learn and to grow as a writer, but you know as a human being I think I Remember my first week I joked that I had a pitch that She was going to get tricked into believing in herself in this episode and it the trick was I Tricked into believing in myself Through the course of this show just You know, it shows me in a while just leading this way of Inviting us into every room making sure we all felt a part of the process and and having you know This sense that we were part of this community and a part of this show and I learned so much and I take that with me For every job since then and like everyone said this has opened so many doors for me and it's always gonna be a really special time in my life And jozy closing it out I mean, it's it's a lot of what everybody said like I feel like this show show like set the set the bar in so many ways for like me Professionally personally like it was I mean, like honestly it was the first time I had been in a reticule with a single other woman Like this was the first time I was working on a show that wasn't just here's a bunch of dudes that I'm writing for like it's it was so Incluso from the get go And everybody was so collaborative which again like it's not every show is like that It's just the fact that so much of it was shaped by us knowing like okay I'm writing an episode and Jen's gonna get this episode and I know that she's gonna give share on the Scorpio bits And you know that feels gonna add his like spin on it like it just like nobody can make something Like in a vacuum and I think she wrote like more than anything was like oh We're we've all come together like as a crew and then we've all come together as friends like you know We we still hang out we still talk well zoom hang out but like we And it like it was a lovely the personal bar was just like here's a bunch of people who I love spending time What they love talking to and who are so supportive in so many different ways and like I think like working on the show made me like It definitely made me a better writer, but I think it made me a better person and that's because of everybody here, so thank you guys That was amazing what a what a good way to close out So I think that's gonna bring us to the end of our questions for this first panel We do have another one coming before I dropped that I it would be remiss nature remind people watching That Lauren and I do co-host the podcast about Shira. We have done 96 episodes. So we only have four more This is gonna be tomorrow's episodes if you want to re here the audio you can listen to it is called Shira progressive of power A lot of the people on this stream have been on the show. We've also had some of the cast We had a lot of really cool people we had Matt Young from hello from the magic tavern on a few weeks ago I think you made a couple listeners cry because Matt's a really heartfelt dude Yeah, what else do I need to oh and then the next time we're doing this so we just got word that apparently panel two and I don't know all the participants yet But it's gonna be similar of your phase is gonna happen next Wednesday August 26 probably same bat time same bat channel Before we go for real Z's does anyone have something they're working on right now or another place where your work can be seen or heard that you would like to plug I know there's a certain star Trek cartoon maybe Star Trek lower decks Thursday's CSL access or wait and then Josie any plugs sure I mean a dreamworks Jurassic Jurassic World Camp Potatious is coming out in September Which actually got to steal M to write with me on that for that for season I'm gonna look for M to pull something off her bookshelf for every plug that everybody has now So Sharon what do you got Most of it's all NBA I guess just yeah, but the new carhouse show that I worked on the I think they changed the title to blood of Zeus will be coming out Some time I don't know If you love buff lesbians just an eye on Sharon I don't have an in D.A. But I also have no idea what I'm talking Jen Also in the one thing that I have worked on since year that has been announced has been sent our world Which is a Netflix musical red food comedy about a horse who gets transported to a magical world of centaur
and has to find her way home. And that's gonna come out sometime next year, maybe. It's gonna be really wild. I'm excited for people to see it. And yeah, we're gonna have this stuff that I'm super excited about, but can't talk about just yet. - Dang, all these NDAs still got anything you can talk about? - I mean, something that I did work on since Chira, but I don't work on it now. Maya and the three were Hikku Tierra's project about another powerful princess. Don't know when that's coming out either, but I did do some work on that. So look up to that, whenever it happens. - And Noel. - I have a few things brewing. Again, I can't talk about them yet, but I'm really, really excited. I think if you enjoy Chira, you will also enjoy these other things I'm working on. And some of them are really, really close to my heart. So, yes, they do. If you follow me on Twitter at Ginger Hazing, I'll post it. - Awesome. Well, this was so great. This is really great. Thank you to Tom Dyke and to Tori for moderating and doing all the tech and everything. You've been wonderful as well. I don't know if that check could even be moderated, but thanks for watching. - It's a beautiful, chaotic energy of the chat. - It's beautiful seeing it just constantly move. - I haven't had it up in a bad quality. - I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm going to come over here and looking at it. At its peak, we had over 2,600 people watching. - Wow. - So, thank you to everyone who was tuning in. We really appreciate it. I can hear you clapping. I know you're out there. We have plenty of questions for the next panel, because like we said, over 1,000. But if there's something that didn't get asked at this one, that you are really still itching to know, you can email us, that is
[email protected]. And we will see you at the next panel. - Otherwise, we're just going to say movie 200 times. - Movie. - Movie. - Movie. - Movie. - This is Julia. - Thanks for listening to Shira, Progressive of Power. If you like our show, you can rate and review us on Apple Podcasts. We super appreciate it. You can also send in any feedback you have to our email address,
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