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The Ed Sheeran Episode

1h 34m 58s

The Ed Sheeran Episode

The conversation is a warm, humorous, and deeply personal reflection on friendship, fame, parenting, and everyday life. Ed Sheeran and his friends share candid stories about their nicknames—especially "Chuck," which evolved organically through repeated use and became a unifying bond. They discuss quirks like Chuck’s need to be soaked before exercising and the awkwardness of touching his belly button, highlighting their shared sense of humor and vulnerability. Personal milestones, including a cancer diagnosis and legal battles, are framed not as tragedies, but as defining moments that shaped their values. The discussion also touches on cultural shifts, such as the decline of traditional cinema and the rise of streaming, sparking a passion for making a low-budget, R-rated comedy that could revive meaningful theater experiences. Amid the humor, there’s a strong emphasis on authenticity—valuing simple, heartfelt moments over fame or material possessions. From childhood memories to awkward school moments, like a high school bus incident where a sudden urge to use the bathroom caused a chaotic chain reaction, the narrative reveals a deep connection built on honesty, shared experiences, and mutual understanding. The tone remains light and reflective, showing how personal rituals, family dynamics, and friendship form a foundation for navigating fame and life’s challenges.

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- We're gonna make a beat. - Let's do it. - I love him. - Oh wow. - What's with this fucking creepy baby? - I don't know, I don't like to talk about its creepiness because I understand what you're saying. - Don't touch it. - I definitely ruffled some feathers being in Game of Thrones. - Ed Sheeran, great album. - Greater dad. - Pretty good at sex for the lack of penis he was given. - I just bought the Edward Scissorhands hens. - You did? - You wanna smell his belly button? - Why? - We're living in Ed Sheeran's century. - Yeah, Chuck, he looks just like him. - Well, I feel-- - What's this Chuck stuff? - Oh, you know, you never heard us say it? - I don't, well, it's more him than me, wouldn't you say? - Say it. - It's basically a nickname. It's like, for example, I call her Mochi and she calls me Mochi, so. But for whatever reason, I think with Chuck, it's said more than Mochi. - But you call-- - Everyone Chuck, I think. - No, so basically, it was our nickname for each other. He started calling all of his friends. - No, no. - To my dismay, it's like so weird. - That's not what happened. - Like yesterday, he was on the phone with Blake and Blake says Chuck just as much as we say Chuck. - Okay, let me explain to you what happened. - Just think of a different name. - No, there's three people in the world that are called, there's three people that I call Chuck in the world. - Okay. - Okay, and-- - Who are they? - You, Blake, and David. - Okay. - And what happened, and my brother, every once in a while says it to me. I don't ever say it back to him. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - So what happened is those people started saying it so much to me, I never said it to them. Well, and there's more people, the entire world says it to us in the street. - It's because we put it in the TV show. - Right, right, right. - Still, I didn't think it was that, anyways, yeah. - So you got cameras out here as well? - Oh yeah, they're on you right now. - There's one right there. - Oh, that one's not really one. - With your beautiful hair. - And there's one right there. - Oh. - Yeah. Did you know how I met Ed? - We met on Skype. - Like Skype, yeah. - Skype. - What do you mean? - It wasn't even Zoom, it was Skype. - Yeah, Skype. - And Benny was like, so I'd listened to Save That Money. So Cherry was a fan. So your music was big at Duke University, I think. - Hell yeah. - So Cherry was a fan. - That's cool. - She played me Save That Money. And then Benny was like, I'm friends with Dickie. And we'd been asked to do a song for the Lego Batman movie. - Oh yeah. - So we got on Skype and we wrote a song, still the only song that we've written together. I know I was on the Chris Brown tune, but I didn't, I obviously didn't write my bits for that. - Yeah. - You guys did it all over Skype? - Yeah. - The best part is I had to go to the bathroom and I just left Dave on Skype with Ed. - And by the way, this is like, from my perspective, I was like-- - The biggest person you've ever met? - Yeah. - Yeah. - There's a lot of air traffic today. - There's so much air traffic. - Should we go inside? - We should go inside 'cause of the air traffic, I think. - It's all gone Pete's home. - What's that? - It's all gone Pete Tong. - I don't know what you're saying. - It means it's all gone wrong. - Listen to the air traffic. - I know, there's so, well, it's Friday. - How many times do you want to say air traffic? - Twice. - It's actually the third time. - I wonder if it's because it's Friday and people are taking off for the weekend. ♪ Control the major, Tom ♪ - Anything to drink? Full fridge if you need? - I'm all right, it's quite cool in here. - Do you have one guitar that you, is your lucky guitar that you take everywhere? - Nah, I used to when I was like 21. - Yeah, you used to. - Oh really? - He was so beat up. - So battered, yeah. - And he was so scared to get a new one and then he finally did. - I set up my own guitar company so now it's just like a constant stream of guitars. - But he used to like have a guitar and it was like, it would have like so much stuff on it. He's also like a little collector of things. He used to like collect like every like wristband and like. - Do you have like rituals or OCD about things where you get stuck in these patterns? - Nah, nah. - Cool. - No, I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think. - You were hoping you could be like, dude me too. - I get like if I don't exercise, there's something out of whack in my day now. - Yeah. - I really find I have to do something every morning. - What do you do, like run? - You don't have to. - Anything. - You don't have to be like. - Pushups, anything? - Anything. - Do you have to shower before you, do you have to get wet before you exercise? - What? - I have to, I can't even do anything until I'm soaked once. I can't get out of bed unwet. - You got some really interesting kinks, man, I like it. - Wait, you, Chuck, you have to be soaked to do anything? - Yeah, I can't, like, when I have a workout, I will. - I don't use soap, I'll just rinse. - Surely at the end, you get in an ice bath and soak and. - Then he doesn't again. - Oh, I get back in after I clean myself. - But if he gets sweaty after the second shower, then he doesn't stop talking about how inefficient. - There's nothing worse than sweating after a shower. I get so frustrated. - You're really wasting a lot of water. - Get your CBT down before you do that. Yeah, shower. - Do you shower every day? - Yeah, sometimes twice a day. Mostly twice a day, actually. - Really? - I feel like, I'm like you though, I look like I don't smell good, but actually, you're the best smelling person I know. - I know, I smell good, and I never, like, even if I don't shower, I. - You smell your hands or something. - Smell me, come here, smell. Smell me wherever you want. - He always smells good. - No smell, no smell. - No smell. - No smell. - People used to say that I have a particular smell. They said it's not good or bad that you have a smell. I found that so unnerving. - No, sometimes you stink. - I know I can stink, but I don't smell bad. I've heard that I still have a smell that's not good or bad. - What about your belly button, 'cause that is. - Oh yeah, you wanna smell his belly button? - Nope. - It's crazy. - You will never. - Get him to smell it. - No, I don't know if he should, but I don't know. It's really terrible. - No, no, no, get him to smell it. - I feel bad. - It's okay. - He might throw up. - He's not gonna throw up. - It's pretty. - Here you go. - Ugh, I can't even watch. I'm ashamed. - Doesn't it smell so? It's one of the worst smells I've ever smelled. - That's like a bum hole. Jesus Christ. - I don't understand why. - It makes me sick. - Gotta wash the hands. - You gotta stop doing that. - I feel like I broke his body down. - I know. Mine smells just like nothing. - Do you wash your belly button? I don't wash inside of my belly button. I let the soap, oh you kinda have a narrow. - Yeah. - I have a deep. - Mine doesn't smell like. - Do you have a deep hole in your belly button? - Can I have something that's gonna take that? - Smell away? - Yeah, let me make some more coffee. - You sure you don't want another whiff? - Yeah. - Oh mate. - Fill that coffee. - I gotta tell you, Ed is one of the clumsiest people. - No, this is a weird machine. - No, no, no. He's one of the clumsiest people. - No, this lid doesn't work. - One time Ed was at my house and it was right when we got one of those, you know those like machines that like you go like this and like it was like a scooter and you like roll forward on it. - Oh, the hover board. - Okay, right when I got one, he was like, he was like going like this. He was like at my house and he was like brr, brr. And he was like moving around on it. And he just, and I had a glass dining room table and he just smashed into it and it just exploded. Just like. - We have this friend, Emil, who like spent close to a hundred grand on a rug. And I went round there and we were drinking like nice wine together. And I was like, I'm gonna spill this wine on your rug as a joke. - Yeah. - And he was like, don't do that. And I was like, nah, we're good. And then later on in the night I tripped up and spilt it all over the rug. And he thought I'd done it on purpose. And I was like, that was genuinely. - Did you pay for it? - Oh yeah, what happens next? - I don't know. - Was he upset? - Let's just fucking spend a hundred grand on a rug. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Dude, you know what? One time we were at my house we were literally at my house and we were working 'cause we used to make all the songs like out of like my house, out of like a bus, out of, you know, wherever. And Ed was like, I'm so hungry. And he's obsessed with ketchup. Okay. - Same, same. - What? - Are you that obsessed, Chuck? - Oh my God, I was so jealous that you had the ketchup commercial. - Chuck, are you that obsessed? - I reach out to them and ask before that commercial. I would constantly be like, hey, like I love Heinz ketchup. If you ever, and they're like, we just don't really need to advertise. - They did say that to me. They said, we don't need to advertise. And then when I came with the advert, it was 'cause we did Ed's shop as well. - You came with the idea? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. 'Cause what I do, I usually carry a bag, a bottle of Heinz ketchup in my bag because when you get to restaurants and they're like, sometimes really, really fancy restaurants are like, we don't do ketchup. And I'm like, but you do fries. Like, why wouldn't you do ketchup? So I carry it. And then the advert is that, me going to a fancy restaurant and then they bring the food and then I just. So. - Genius. - You gotta call him back and say, you gave it to Ed. - They already did it. They already did it. It's so much bigger. - Kristen, he's at, he's at my house and I just got like this beautiful blanket. Like I, like, it was from like ABC home and it's like this gorgeous blanket. And he's, he's at my house and he's like, oh, I gotta eat some food. And so he like gets the food and like, I'm about to say like, maybe don't do it. 'Cause he's so clumsy, but like he didn't do it. And then he goes to get the ketchup and he like, you know how sometimes you gotta shake it like this? - No. - And the entire bottle exploded. It just exploded all over the thing. And he just goes like, and he was like, my bad. And you just like kind of crumpled the thing up and just put it to the side. - That's funny. I used to bring ketchup bottles to my like school, eighth grade, high school, 'cause they had a packet limit that they would give out as cafeteria staff. So I brought my own bottle. - My guy. And also man, school food. Like that was very much like at school. Like if you got like a shit sausage roll or a shit bit of pizza. - Do you need some ketchup? - Needs some lubrication. - Sausage roll? - If you get a shit sausage roll. - I gotta say, I don't like ketchup. - What? - I don't like it. - I don't like ketchup. - Do you like mustard? - Yeah, but English mustard. I feel like American. I honestly, some of the condiments here and the chocolate. - Hey tell, tell us what you mean. - You hate the chocolate here? What's- - The chocolate in the UK is unbelievable. - Have you eaten Hershey's? - But you guys have the worst. - I like it. - You have terrible gummy candies, but you have the best chocolate. - Oh yeah, but our gummy candies are terrible 'cause they don't have like 75 million ingredients. - Yeah, but I want the cancer ingredients. - What's a good chocolate that you have that we can't get? - Oh my God, milk. - Yeah, I mean, Cadbury's lint. - Dairy milk is insane. - Dairy milk, but European chocolate, belgian chocolate swiss chocolate like is the best crumble is insane cadbury eggs that's you that's you right yeah okay yeah once that's no that's bad yeah you went once yeah here's the thing i'm gonna say which is maybe controversial i didn't love i don't love fish and chips that did you have it in london i don't know did you have it did you have it by the seaside could you see the sea when you're eating it no that is why yeah maybe i just got the i only had it like once and i thought this is everything basically london london is obviously the hub it's all the tourists come the uk is like huge it's like if i was like right i had barbecue food in new york yeah and that's what i'm judging it on and you're like well you have to go to like the best place austin stubs or something it's stubs isn't it's stubs would be what would be the best barbecue you could have not stuff kansas city has good barbecue i would go but you know what i mean like that would be controversial but my view because i grew up near the seaside is you have to see the sea when you're in europe when i'm there we'll go take a trip down to his town it's amazing he has a house that was he owns the town well no he grew up he grew up okay first of all let me just explain this to you he grew up in a town of like 2 000 people and then he moved into a town next to his town where it's even less people yeah there's like 200 people in my village in his village now yeah 200 people one grocery store one no grocery store so just no eating no i mean we do go to a grocery store in the town but you have to imagine i can't even imagine a town there's no there's no uber eats there's no uber there's no uh postmates nothing no amazon delivery uh yeah yeah but it would take like two three days like it wouldn't be like same day but you also have to understand like in his town there's also like somehow like everyone has the best taste and style they'll be like bread that's like dressed up no no no they just like like some person's been making bread for like a hundred years and it's the best sourdough you've had there's like somebody this is true who makes like smoked salmon and every person has the best styled home you've ever been like they're like the architecture it's insane i will say because we haven't we haven't really got like big chain business there so it is all like mom and pop it's amazing like every like everything in the market square is all like family owned and family run and that sounds like a dream it's a real community it's incredible move and then like every time just moved every time i used to come to his house there'd be like a new thing like when i first came there he was like this house was is older than america and then well really he was like this house is older than america and then um i mean it is and then older than the yeah yeah yeah yeah so then you know so then i come back the next time and he's like i have an underground movie theater and it was like so cool because he kept building on this like property he had yeah then the next time i came back and he had his favorite pub was just there and then i came back again and he had a full lake and then he had like a farm with like wildlife and it was so i built a chapel now it's got a full church though like he's gonna die acreage yeah i wouldn't say it's like i wouldn't say it's acreage in the same way that americans have acreage yeah but i'd say yours is like five acres i'm four acres no it's about 39 i think oh it's 39. yeah it's like i was gonna say you have a lot going on there it's like you have a lot going on there yeah well we planted it we planted about 18 000 trees oh my god so it's just a big forest wait this is my favorite part when he when he i was there when he first planted the trees chuck and the trees didn't come just like full of trees chuck you were walking like miles and the trees were this big no but they're mate they're fully grown though they're huge i know but it was 2013 i planted them so it used to be just like a plowed field with nothing in it and then i got the field and then it's now like a field with nothing in it and then i got the field and then it's now like very very rich and diverse with we we have like snakes and live there now it feels like a more of like a forest like a middle totally a forest yeah and we get like uh monk jacks which are like mini deer and then we get deer in the garden and badgers and because because we have like infrared security and we can see if people like break in we also see all the like mad wildlife at night yeah you look at your trees do you feel way more satisfaction than you ever would looking at any other tree uh yeah i mean everything i mean that that house and property everything on it is pretty much apart from the actual like cottage that's from the 1600s everything on it is your creation yeah and like we've got like a big um vegetable garden where we grow all the veg and don't you worry about the trees getting like how do you make because a lot of you're gonna say your sad thing again i'm not gonna say the sap thing but maybe he would relate to the sap thing just because you guys don't understand sap i have at my house i feel like to be like to have a like purely like organic gaff and garden let it be but so you don't have like disease because like in my yeah i mean we do but if they die they die and that's like yeah you know when the trees come no you don't sometimes you don't feel like an arborist i don't know maybe you guys get like diseases that just completely like take out like an entire yeah you know you there's like there's definitely like and you can tell you think you can eyeball a dying tree i eyeballed the two dying trees on my property well they're probably so obvious maybe he's an arborist well no it's not it's it's i think it's i think it's easier to tell a tree's dying than not what i was getting wrong was it was not in season what's with this creepy baby oh oh jeff you know i don't know i don't like to talk about its creepiness because i understand what you're saying don't touch it let's stop please don't we got our uh uh youngest daughter a doll and it was like so creepy that we kept calling it creepy baby and then she thought its name was creepy baby so she'd be like looking at her big creepy baby oh really that's sweet got two daughters they are so fun um i mean it's up it's up and down when like when they're when they're uh tantruming it's real are they close in age yeah super close in age like so much so that they are just best mates locked in they do everything together that's a dream do you want to sign deep down don't care not thinking about it oh did you know what i don't know i don't know i think i think maybe i'd want another girl i think i don't know is there a huge difference in one kid versus two kids like is it a total paradigm shift yeah but i think if you have them close to get i mean i'm just going based on my experience but having them close together was like really chaotic to begin with and then it's like so good because they just play together yeah bath together and sleep together and school together and everything's like locked in i think that's a good i like that logic for our future me too i just wish i was a tiny bit younger it's hard it seems so hard to do the whole it does seem hard just back to back so zero to one child was that that was yeah but we did that in covid so it was that was like that was all we did you have did you have both of them during covet no no the second one we had uh covet aftermath one week into my tour starting so that was like an interesting um one week into your tour starts did they all go with you or no yeah oh they did yeah yeah but it was in europe so it was more saying to benny we do europe on trains so it was like a bit easier his his wife doesn't like flying anymore like me oh really yeah do you know i made him take a boat across i've heard this i've heard that you guys like took like a cruise ship did you get like a like a suite or were you guys just we had a suite we watched titanic together on the boat yeah we cuddled it wasn't even like no it was like barely we had like a almost like a normal room it was cool it was cool i've done it would you guys just go and get like lunch and dinner yeah i ate the same thing every single day do you remember i just i just had fajitas lunch and dinner every day every day um no we what i loved about it is like midway through the trip they like send out on the tannoy they're like right everyone come to the top deck we're about to see the place where the titanic sunk and we're like oh cool and then we go up there and then it's just everyone just taking pictures of the sea just just water oh it was yeah i understand i have a i have a question do your kids know your ed sheeran yet uh yeah my eldest does but that's because she started school has she heard your music and does she like it yeah i mean she comes to the shows she um yeah she comes to the shows she likes my yeah she likes her music but does she understand like when she comes to the shows and she sees you singing no she doesn't she doesn't clock it like that when she she was in school and like these kids who were like 11 and 12 were like giving her like notes to give to me at home which she's like four or she was four at the time it was a bit like much yeah yeah how do you explain what did the notes say we love you yeah yeah but still like you know it's was she confused was she like here's from some yeah kids shows the power of fame it's got 11 year olds going up to four-year-olds and being like pleased but it's a hard thing to explain i imagine yeah like what do you like like what are you going to tell your kids yeah like well i'm so scared of this whole thing because you should be to me i'm like you should be also this amount of that's on the internet about you they're gonna they're gonna find it all no i'm i'm scared because it's like like i went to a public school i did all these things like and i just like don't even know what you're supposed to do what i say to them i try and like normalize it as much as possible of like everyone has a job and this is my job and like i don't really work in the week i work at weekends so if i'm away i'm doing those gigs and like but that means that i get to be at home in the week and spend time with you and blah blah blah blah blah but it's uh i would say that like no one's like everyone in the world has jobs and my job is just a job and it That can only work for so long. She's four. One day she's going to be like, your job is way better than this other person's job. Yeah, but it might be more normalized because she's, like, growing up with it and still you're. I talk a lot to, like, musicians that I really love and admire. Like, I talk a lot to them and their kids about it and, like, trying to, like, understand where parts went wrong and where parts went right. Yeah. Like, what happens, like, so, like, has she seen you, like, does she understand when you meet a fan? Does she know what that is? Yeah, yeah, because I usually will, like, if I'm with them, I always say no to pictures. Because one time, really, really, really early on, I was with Lai and we were out somewhere and someone asked for a selfie. And as I was taking it, she fell over. And I was just like, I'm, like, I'm not doing, I'm not being a dad here. So now I'm just. It's just a blanket no to anyone. But I'll explain. It makes sense. Yeah, I'll explain to them. I'm, like, I'm just being a dad today. Like, I'm not, I don't want to. And people usually get it. Sometimes people can be, like, quite rude, though. But she's. It's a good excuse. Yeah, I mean, but it's true. It's true. Like, it's true. Like, I'm, it's far more important that I'm being a dad to my daughter than me being a pop star to anyone else. But I think that the, yeah, so she sees me, she now says no photos to people. Oh. So, like, if someone comes up, she'll say it, like, instantly. That's crazy. It's such. Is she aware of, like, people looking at you? Like, is she become, like, self. Is she self-aware now that people are then looking, like, at her? No, because we don't really go out like that. We don't really go out in spaces where that could be. A thing. A thing, yeah. And I think because where we live, where we grew up, like, my. It's the same area my wife grew up as well. And all of our schoolmates live there. All of our family lives there. So if we go. If we go out to a pub nearby. They already know. We know everyone. Yeah. And actually. That's great. If there's anyone in there that does act weird because there's such a, like, protective force feel around it, like, people will kind of stick up for us without us even needing to do anything. That's so sweet. Yeah, that's why he lived there. That's incredible. But that's why he lived there. I understand. I remember when he was living in London and he was just like, I gotta go, like, I gotta go back to my roots. Yeah. How old were you when you got big? 19 was when it went, like, stratospheric. But I was sort of. I was sort of, like, doing stuff at 17, 18. British people, everything sounds so important when he says, like, stratospheric. Yeah, you could say anything. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, totally. That's when it went stratospheric. 19 was so young for. I mean, I guess you could be younger, but not barely. Like, that's young. Yeah, it's a weird one because I do look back on it and there are certain things that I didn't experience, but also, like, it's all I ever wanted to do. So, like, could I have deferred everything and done all the experience things? Until I was 22 and then done it? And would that have, like, been better? And I don't think I would have done, like. What experience is popping into your head? University? I mean, that, maybe. Yeah. I mean, but not universities and studying, but the experience of being at university with other kids and, like. Did you see how I said that? Not college, but, like, you know, learning how to cook and look after yourself and all this stuff. Or, like, cheap backpacking. You know, staying in hostels with fucking whoever and going to Thailand and doing. I haven't done that yet. You don't want to do that. No. Yeah. So, maybe. But that's the thing. Just cheap backpacking. I don't mourn for any of that. The stuff I mourn for is, like, the normality stuff with my kids and, like, you know, like, suddenly being my daughter can be taken to the zoo by her godfather, but not me. And that's where I'm, like. Yeah. That's where I get sad. It's not so much my childhood stuff because it's whatever. I had a great time from 17 to 25 or whatever. I feel like we still. I mean, we basically were like college kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I felt like you were the most normal person. I obviously were from different places, but there was, like. It felt like. Well, we were all so young. And, like, Ed's, like. I feel like me and Ed share the same thing where it's, like, there's a lot of guys that get, like, big that, like, you're, like, oh, yeah, like, that person should be, like, so. Like, you see, like, someone, they're, like, doing the cool. Like, I feel like both. Especially me. I don't, like. I'm, like, the guy. I, like, give. And you're the same way. You, like, give, like, the normal guy hope. Like, it's, like, we, like. You, too. No, we do. We do it. Yeah, yeah, you are, too. You guys are just a bunch of normal dudes. Yeah, we're, like. We're, like. Like, there's some guys who are, like, so hot and can, like, do all the stuff. And we're, like. We, like, shouldn't have been. Who are you thinking about? I don't know. Like, I. You know what I mean? Like, there's definitely the popular kid in school who's super, super attractive. Yeah. Like. Yeah, like Jacob Elordi or something. But they say those. They say those kids peak. Or, like, Chris Brown or. Like, there's so many guys who can, like, do, like, crazy stuff. Benson Boone, a backflip. Benson Boone, you think he's hot? Benson Boone, I think, is. I think Benson Boone is, like, straddling, like, us. Yeah, he's got a little bit of normal. Yeah, he's, like. But he can do backflips. Yeah, but he's, like, funny-looking. But he's, like, hot funny-looking. Yeah, I think he's almost hotter than funny-looking. I would say, yeah. No, no. His outfit is so, like, designed to show off his. I think his body screams, like, hot guy. And his face is, like, oh, you can be one of the normal. Like, he has, like, a, like. I think he's right. I think he's right. Hey, Benson, you agree? Benson, you looking at me? I think he's considered, you know, a. This is the type of stuff we talk about. I love it. This is such a lovely podcast. Yeah, Benson's got. It's not a podcast. I think, at the end of the day, all we have to do. Go. Welcome to the ads, guys. We're talking White Claw. I thought it was a group thing, because I want to talk about this one, too. Okay, you talk about which one you like. Okay, you go first. Me? I'm stuck between peach and watermelon. I do want to say something. Has anybody ever combined, like, a half of one and a half of another? I think I'm going to. Will I be the first man ever to drink peach watermelon? Have a fruit punch? I don't know if it's as exciting for you as it is for me, but. I'm excited to experience it. Please drink responsibly. Hard, sultry flavors. White Claw Seltzerworks, Chicago, Illinois. Yay! That's what you want? All right, guys, get a room. Papa brought Domino's. Wow, that must be heavy. What do you got in there? It's the heaviest thing in the world. I've been working out so much. Oh, wow. Do we each get a few? No, these are for me. We each get four pie. I've done the math. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, four. Will you share some of those pies? Tell me what your favorite pie is. Thin crust with pineapple. Do you have that? You bet. It's your bottom dollar, I do. It's yours. I'm a plain cheese. Oh, I also want some of that, though. And I also might want some of that. For a limited time, you can get any pizza with any toppings for just $9.99 at Domino's. Wait, I didn't say my pizza. That was the end of the ad. I guess they'll have to know on the next time. Do you always fly private? No. Wait, why did you, why did you? No, I don't, I don't. How do you get on the plane? Oh, it's British Airways. They'll just put a fucking hoodie up. If someone said to you, I'm going to give you $100. $150,000 to, like, sit in an airport lounge and maybe take two photos, you'd be like, okay. He's saying that's the difference in the. That's how much it costs to fly private. Kind of. Yeah. I agree with you completely. And they have a higher chance of crash. I sometimes, there'll sometimes be pictures online that will come up of me, like, sleeping on a plane. That someone next to me is, like, taking an upload. It's a bit weird. Violation. Do you have anxiety? Yeah. What type? I have it, Cherry works a lot. On me, because I have it in public spaces. Mostly, I think, because of. Who you are. Yeah. So she's always, like, pushing me to do things that I usually wouldn't do. And I think actually having kids has, like, really helped me go out. When we were making Divide, and then even after Divide, I just never went out. I just was, like, always inside. And if I went out, it would be like I'd shut the restaurant down and I'd go with my friends. And it'd be very, like. Curated. And then I think having kids, I was like, I have to give them some level of normality. Even if there's, like, bits of it that aren't normal for me, that I have to give them some level of normality. And I think COVID helped because wearing face masks or ski masks or, like, some, you know, like a scarf or whatever. Like, that's not frowned upon now. So I can still go out and do things and I'm, like, hot. It doesn't really help. It looks like, like, colors exploded on your body. No, but I, like, so my months that I do it are, like, the autumn and fall months and winter. So I can, like, really, like, wrap up. Summer, it's a wrap. When I ate the edible in Hawaii and I was experiencing a little moment of paranoia and I thought everyone was looking at me. It turns out they were really, well, they were looking at you. But for some reason, I just thought they were looking at me. And I would be, like, I gotta get out. I gotta get out of here. We can't be, we can't be anywhere. And I wonder if it's that feeling. The thing is with it, with the public, is everyone will see the benefits of success and fame and blah, blah, blah. So it's about, the way that I describe it with my friends is I have struggles in my life that they don't have. And they have struggles in their life that I don't have. And as long as we recognize that all of us have shit that we're struggling with, then it's fine. Because I think a lot of the time, people will just be like, ah, you're fine because this, this, this, and this. But they wouldn't take into account the other things. And I think that you just always have to, like, go through life differently. being kind to people, because everyone's got something in their life that they're struggling with, so just recognize that, yeah. That's why I don't honk at cars. Oh, man. I'm not a honker, I say. Fucking hell. I don't think I've ever honked a car. Me and Dave just were talking. Oh, get a paper towel. Sorry, I killed it. What is it, crushed? It's just a fly. No, I think it's a mosquito. I don't like that. Well, it was bothering me. It was a mosquito. Me and, I don't like that. Me and, I don't kill anything. Sorry. It's all good. Apart from sick beats, eh? Yeah, you know, me and Dave just realized that neither one of us have ever honked. Well, that makes sense. I honk by accident, like sometimes, like if I'm driving. You're also a bad driver, just like we are. I'm not that bad. No, you're not that bad, but I think like if there's a scale of like good and bad, you're more on the bad. I drove you just after I'd passed my test. What test? I, I, you're, you're, you're definitely, if there's like good and bad, you're definitely like not on the good side. But you might not be like terrible. You used to drive us around, you didn't even have a license. Oh, God, it's fucking brown. What? Look at the remains of the thing. It's probably brown. All right. It's just brown now. Hey, what was. I would be fascinated to be a fly on the wall of your life. No, you wouldn't, because you'd be dead like that. My life? All of our life. I know, they don't know how to. Just your reaction to that was just like. They don't know how to do very normal things. What are you guys talking. This is a reasonable reaction. The thing is brown. That is so ridiculous that he says that. He has spun this narrative. Do you cook? Yeah, I make curry. No, she doesn't cook. You make curry for the first time. I make curry. No, she does not cook. I can make a soup, and I freeze it, and I can make noodles. Nope, you don't make curry, and you don't 69. We know that. You guys talk about that shit on here. Yeah, sometimes. There seems to be a disconnect between Dave and I about what we do and what we don't do. We have 69'd once or twice. The other day, she was talking, she was like, oh, yeah, we 69, and I said, no, we don't, and then we did it once. I don't even want a 69. I don't like 69. We don't need to keep hammering it. I don't like 69. Next time we do it, though, we should try it standing. Chuck, you can't do standing your back. She'll do a handstand. I'll hold her leg and crouch. Chuck, you can't do that. You don't have enough. We are learning new things about each other every day. What was the best day of your life? My wedding day. Really? I was there. When did you get married? 2019. What's the worst day of your life? Day that Cherry rung me up and said she had cancer. That was probably, like, the worst day. Yeah, that was, like, probably the worst week because Jamal died that week. Oh, my God. And then we went straight into a court case. Oh, and you had the court case. Yeah, Chuck. Oh, and then Shane died. Oh, yeah. How's your wife doing now? She's fine. I mean, she had the operation. This was, like, she was pregnant at the time. That was why it was difficult. Oh, man. She had the operation to remove the tumor after she'd given birth to our second child. And, thankfully, touch wood, totally fine. But just, you know, like, I think it's, yeah, it was fucking scary. That's, yeah. Yeah. That's a lot. That's a heavy week. Yeah. I can't imagine it gets heavier. Well, it doesn't really get. I mean, being in the court case, though, which, like, everything was building to that for, like, eight years. And then, suddenly, when you're in the courtroom, it didn't really matter. So, I'd built it up in my mind. And then, because of all those actual heavy. heavy life things happened, as soon as I was in the courtroom, I was, like, I don't actually care about the outcome of this, because it's, like. So small. Is it a court case that. Yeah, so small compared to. What was the case about? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I won. So, yeah. It was for, it was for Shape of You. And I did another court. So, I basically, I got, in the music industry, you get people that, like, make claims. And most people settle behind the scenes. And they'll, you know, it'll be 10 grand here, 100 grand here. And I'd done it once, done settling once. But then, it just. And it just kept coming. And I was, like, this is fucking ridiculous. Like, I haven't done anything wrong. So, there was one big one in America. And one big one in the UK. And I just said, I'm going to do both of those cases. And I'm going to take it to court. And it's a big deal. It's, like, eight years and lawyers every day. But what is it? It's, like, a copyright infringement. Oh. An old song sounded, it said, like, this. Oh. Yeah. And then, but I thought, if I made a stand both sides of the Atlantic, then it would just. Stop. And it did. Oh, good, yeah. Because it's, like, because people do it. People claim by, because they know that you're not going to want to go to court. Because it costs probably 30 times the amount that you'd be settling for. Yeah. And, you know, eight years leading up to it. And then, it's a month in court. And court's really intense. And it's all in the press. And it's, like, the worst kind of headlines of Ed Sheeran steals songs and blah, blah. Because that stuff never goes away. So, I think people bank on you just settling and being, like. Yeah. Yeah. And so, I took both to court. And, yeah, won both of them. And now, it's. It's not happening anymore. Yeah, but it's also not happening for other people, which is good. Like, Dua Lipa had a big case that has been thrown out because of the case that we did. They used the evidence that was in my case for her case. So, it helps. That must feel so satisfying. Chuck, what's your ideal headline? My ideal headline? Yeah, like, your ideal headline. Little Dicky's back. The Little Dicky movie grosses a billion dollars. No, I couldn't. So, it's got to be realistic. Ideal headline. Sorry, that's not realistic. Oh, it's got to be realistic? Yeah. Okay. Ideal realistic headline. Okay. Not that your movie grosses a billion dollars. Oh, wins album of the year at the Grammys or something. I think it's more something like. And it's just a headline. Is there a sub-headline or it's just the main one? Let me hear. Let me hear. How Bird got his mojo back. No, I would say something like, whether he's Little Dicky or Dave Bird, all he wanted was unilateral respect, and now he has it. No, that's a bad headline. I think it's more like, he wanted unilateral respect. Guess what? Question mark. He's got it. What do you think your best headline is? What do you think your best headline would be, like your ideal headline? Oh. It just depends. I don't know. Career-wise or. I don't know. Yeah, it could be like, Ed Sheeran, great dad. Probably. No, because then no one really knows that unless you're in the. Yeah. You've got to be like. That's the thing. There are so many people that live an online persona that people think that they're great parents because of what they post online. But even that in itself, I find weird that you would post that sort of stuff. Yeah, like, Ed Sheeran, great album. Great album. Greater dad. Greater dad. Pretty good at sex for the lack of penis he was given. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe something in something non-musical. Yeah. I think if I'd ever, like, I really, really want to. Self-fund a low-budget horror film, like a really fucking, like, not even be in it, but just make a really fucked up, low-budget, great idea horror film. The best horror film of the year. Can't believe Ed Sheeran funded it. There you go. Spot on. What was the famous one that was like, um, just never mind. Famous what? There was, there's like a low-budget movie that's. Oh, Paranormal Activity. And then it follows. Blair Witch Project. Yeah, and Blair Witch. Yeah. And then there was one right before that that was like, from the 70s. Get Out? Oh. And it was like, really, uh. Psycho? Gory. Uh-huh. What do you think, Munchie, what do you think your headline would be? Best headline that could ever happen for you. Oh. Yeah, like an article. Girl is, or, sorry. Girl. Girl. Yeah. Kristen DeLuca. So intelligent. Nice. What, the wisdom, the wisdom she spews. What about whether we believe it or not. No, whether we realize it or not, we're living in Ed Sheeran's century. In Ed Sheeran's body. I had a lot of, there was a lot of articles like that around Divide Time saying that we were living in my alternate reality. Yeah. Which. What does that even mean? As in, so many things were going right for me at that time that people thought that they were living in an alternate reality that I had created. But in your alternative reality, wouldn't you have like, maybe like different color hair or something? No, it's so, it's so key to everything. Yeah, I guess it is. I think it is key. It is key. I guess it is so key. It's definitely. Maybe yours would be like. Yeah, it's the first blank headline. Yeah, I don't really, I'm not looking for that. That would be cool if you didn't even need a headline, we all just knew what it meant. I don't need any of that. Have you, we spoke ages ago about you doing standup. Are you off that now? I've never done it. No, I, well, I always wanted to do, when I think of the things I want to do, I think standup at some point in my career, yeah, but I feel like it is way later than like making movies, perhaps. Yeah. You know, like I like things. And what's the first, like, are you doing an extension of the TV show as a movie? No. Or are you doing something completely different? Something completely different. Cool. But if you're interested in funding movies. Yeah, if you want to fund. You know what, so I was talking to Judd Apatow about this. Oh, wow. And I said, where have the, you know, the caliber of movies that he did, they were like. Yeah. You know what, I was talking to Judd Apatow about this. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, where have they gone? There are no movies really coming out anymore. I guess Good Boys was kind of like that. But there's no movies coming out of like. R-rated comedies that are great. Yeah. Yeah. And what he said is like, because of, straight up, there's no movies coming out anymore. There are no movies coming out anymore. There's no movies coming out anymore. Yeah. What he said is like, because of streaming and no backend now, that a $30 million movie like Knocked Up or whatever would then make $100 million on DVD sales, but because that doesn't exist anymore, that you can't justify it. So it's either low budget or Marvel. So I think you need to bring back the- Well, if you have two minutes and 45 seconds, Dave could give you a killer pitch, and you could come in with one of the other entities. Well, I can more take you through exactly what I'm going through. I don't even know if I'll air any of this, but I really am kind of in the midst of this entire thing right now. Of funding a movie. I basically wrote a movie- Of making an R-rated comedy. I wrote a movie. I've been asked- Count me in, brother. Count me in. I've been asking these questions, but I'm learning all about the grim realities of today and streaming. If you think music is different because of streaming and Spotify and what have you, comedy isn't. People aren't going to theaters, and when they go, they go when it matters. I know. And if you make a movie that matters, it will work, and the reason it will work is because there's a fucking massive void in movies, and I think that it's slowed down. This is my theory. I fucking love movies. It slowed down over time because of quality control and it was just pumping out, pumping out, pumping out, pumping out, and then people stopped watching those movies because they just weren't good. Look, obviously I love movies. Obviously, I would love to be the force that brings it back. I also cannot stand when people, like every person's TV is on the wrong mode. Where they don't even fix the, and you're watching it, and it's so, so they don't even have the right setting on their TV. Seems like a logical thing to worry about. Yeah. No, it is true. I was killed by that. And the other thing about going to the movies is you can't even lift up your phone. You have to. You're forced to watch. Now there's. No, but that's my point. That's why people watch movies when they're in the theater. Yes. You're right. And why, if you guys are making this movie, why do you need to spend 30 on it? Could you make it for. You don't. You don't. It's not even that. It's for more. Guys, I got to be honest with you. I haven't pooped in like three days, and this strawberry and vanilla, with nine grams of fiber, it helps keep me regular. I don't like to talk about this stuff in front of Ed. He doesn't like my potty humor, but I'm telling you, after four more sips of this, it's going to be Niagara Falls in the bathroom. Stay tuned, guys. I feel like for you, it's just weighing the strategy of his first movie, and what makes the most sense, and what will allow him to have the freedom to make all the other movies. Products will be the same. If it's an event, I promise you, if you eventize it and it matters, and people care, they will go to the cinema. If this movie became the next Superbad, for example, which I totally believe it can, it would be a true anomaly one of one situation for in today's climate, which is so different post-COVID for comedies and theaters. It would be a one of one situation. The only comedies that do well are IP, like Barbie, like things that are sequelized or whatever. Or something like Elf, or that's like a Christmas movie, or something that's like a rom-com, or an action comedy. But when it's just a straight-up comedy, like coming-of-age comedy, it's hard for it to succeed. But I don't really believe in precedent. I believe in being a precedent shatterer. What's the stupidest thing you ever bought in your whole life? Did you ever just recklessly buy something? Yeah, I spent a lot of money on movie props that, like, I think is really cool. But I think in some aspects it might be stupid. Wait, tell us something that you have. Oh, I just bought the Edward Scissorhands hens. You did? Yeah. I fucking love this. No, wait, let me see a picture right now. There's nothing cool. That's the coolest thing I've ever heard. Memorabilia is so cute. Can I buy them off you? Where do you, do you have like a room in your house that has it all? I sort of like dot 'em about places. Edward, you couldn't have hit something that I care about more. I always say memorabilia. Yeah, but Chuck, that's, this is like a, this is a memorabilia, this is, Chuck, that's the coolest thing. And then that's Dr. Evil's suit there, which I think is cool. You bought it? Yeah. I respect this. What else did you buy? Sports? I bought Ruthie O's sword and Pan's costume from Hook and Hook's hook and hat. I love Hook. I don't, I don't care. I love Batman's costume and Robin's costume from Batman and Robin, which is really cool. I love Batman's costume and Robin's costume from Batman and Robin, which no one wants because it, yeah. No, don't care about either one of those. Like the first, like the first. C, C3PO? You're losing me. Why does no one want it? Because of the Dark Knight success? Uh, that Batman and Robin, the George Clooney one wasn't the, it didn't really do. Oh, yeah. Okay. Chris Connolly. Oh, I loved it. Yeah, yeah. I was like six when the movie came out. Those, those three suck. Tell me some other. I got the, the teddy bear from Artificial Intelligence. I don't even. Have you seen that? Great movie. I was going to say Ted. Ted. Yeah. I was going to be excited. Uh, Gladiator costume. Yeah, that's cool. You like, um, like more, um, sports? I don't. Superhero. Sports. Those don't excite me. The first two really. Oh, I got the knife that, uh, Joe Pesci stabs, um, the guy in the trunk of, uh, Goodfellas. You know, the beginning. Oh, wow. That's cool. That's cool. Okay, okay. I have a question. How do you even find the, where do you go? There's a thing called Prop Store and I just go on Prop Store a lot. You know, I used to work in the props department of TV shows. Did you? I used to go to the props department of TV shows. Did you ever watch, um, Silicon Valley? Do you know what, if you've got anything from Buffy the Vampire Slayer, I'm in. Fortunately, I was too young. Alas. To work. Prop Store. Would you ever be interested in this type of memorabilia, like the gun that killed Abraham Lincoln? No. I think all of that stuff's pretty dark. Yeah. If there's like, if there's stuff that's like real life shit attached to it, I think it's dark. Yeah. I think if it's part of a movie that is part of my nostalgia and childhood. Yeah. I have one real thing. So, for Selena's birthday one year, so she watches Will and Grace every night before she goes to sleep. And my friend's brother made the show, so I got her like a painting and like easel that's from the actual show. And it was, couldn't have been a better time when I gave it to her on her birthday. I gave it to her. She was watching an episode. It was in. It was in the episode. Right when I gave it to her. I walked in really early in the morning, and she sleeps with it all night, and I gave it to her. And as I gave it to her, I said, look on the screen. And it wasn't even planned. That was the cool. That's a good gift. That's cool. She tried to get the couch from Friends when she was younger. Wow. She lost. Someone bought it for $10 million. Yeah. I have a friend that is into collecting props as well, and they went to get Dorothy's- Slippers? Yeah. But they went for like 25 mil. What? Are you just going to the same website? Yeah, it's right here. I'm looking right now. No. I mean, it's not like they could apply to sports. I never really even thought about the movies. This website might be the end of you then. Yeah. I'm looking at it right now. This website probably has a wider reaching- And it's honestly better than sports. There is something cool about holding the bat. Yeah. I have the James Bond's gun from GoldenEye, and that's kind of rad. It's a prop gun, right? I haven't really come up on it. Yeah. I mean, it doesn't work. But if you've ever played the Nintendo 64 game, it's like the PP7. Oh, yeah. You must have some guitars from some local legendaries. Yeah. Legendary. Local. I meant legendary. Legendary handlers. Yeah. I guess I get given them every now and then by people that I love and admire. Like Eric Clapton gave me his acoustic guitar, which is one of my prized possessions. Do you actually play on it, or do you keep it locked away? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I record on it. It's a great guitar. I think it's a real shame with instruments. I always write, if I sign a guitar, I always write, "Play this guitar," because I think it's such a shame when they end up in just Perspex boxes and aren't played. Saying that, I have a few guitars in Perspex boxes. They're all fucked and broken, my tour guitars, but yeah, I think that if anyone's ever given me a guitar, I'll play it a lot. How can you tell if this is even real, though? It comes with an authentication thing. What if they made that fake? We've lost Benny to the website. Were you a part of the Starbucks cup thing? What was the Starbucks cup thing? They accidentally left a Starbucks cup in the shot. In one of the shots in Game of Thrones? No, no, no. I feel like I definitely ruffled some feathers being in Game of Thrones. I think that's bullshit. You had the right look for the vibe, I think. What I said is, "People love that show. If anyone gets asked to be in that show, it's an instant yes." Yes. I said yes. I enjoyed doing it. I've never seen it. But there's been other people that have been famous and in the show. No, not like that. Not where they took a big cultural person who was like an out- Yeah, I don't know. Members of Coldplay are at the Red Wedding. Gary from Snow Patrol's in there. Are you upset? The Always Sunny guy. Chris Stapleton's in it as a white walker. Always Sunny. Right? It wasn't one of the guys from Always Sunny. Yeah, mate. They did it a few times. I think at the time, I was very omnipresent and just everywhere, so I think it was quite jarring. But it was fun for you. Fuck yeah. Oh, do you get shit on for that? Yeah. Really? I think there were more shit on Game of Thrones for like- No. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. That's your fault. It's backwards, though. They put you in it. Yeah. I feel like that happens quite a lot in my career. I'll just get shit on for things that- Really? What else did you get shit on? What else did I get shit on for? I like this quote. You know, a lot of it was in that year, was in Divide You, and I think it was because I was omnipresent and just everywhere. Tell me what you got shit on, Ed. Yeah, what other times have you got shit on? Have you ever shit in not even a public place, but outdoors, like in the woods or something? Yeah. Oh, he's got a real good. Chuck, why don't you explain your shit story? To add the whole story? Yeah. I guess I could. It's quick. You can do it quick. Okay, so I was a junior in high school. My basketball team in my high school, I was not on the team. The team was one of the best teams in the state. We were in the state championship. The school rented buses for all of us to go and watch together, to go arrive at the place together. I was sitting next to a girl that I had a crush on. I was excited about the whole. I'm such a fan of basketball. What a great, fun, exciting time. exciting night. As we're driving to this stadium where the game was, I have this feeling of having to shit that is just so beyond any version of the feeling that I've ever felt. Like I can't even believe how fast it came and how dire it was. So I turned to the girl next to me. She was like talking and it happened. I said, I'm so sorry, but I just, I need to focus. I'm having a little bit of stomach issues. I need to focus and I just, would you mind sitting somewhere else? And you were just sweating. Yeah. And she was like, okay. And then she gets up and sits next to her friends who were two people in a seat. Now there's three people in a seat all of a sudden. And people are like, why are you, why are there three people here? And she's like, I think Dave has to like shit or something. And then, you know, the seniors were in the back of the bus and word travels. All of a sudden, the entire bus is chanting, shit your pants, shit your pants. And it couldn't matter less to me because I'm so locked in and hyper-focused on not shitting because if I even give any inch, I will shit. So like, I'm sorry, like, the degree at which I had to shit made everything so hyper-focused that we get there, everyone, I let everyone get off the bus first because I'm not dealing with like people touching me, but like one by one on the way out, every single person would walk by me and be like, good luck, brother. Don't shit yourself. And like, they'd like leave a message to me. Everyone gets off the bus. I get off. I asked the bus driver, I said, do you have any paper towels or napkins? He's like, no. Okay. I get it. And then I walk, there's a line to get into the arena. And the, I go right up to the front of the arena to the cop at the door. I say, I'm having major like stomach issues. Can I just go in and use the bathroom and then come back out? And he said, the only way into this building is through the back of that. And as soon as he said that, I started sprinting and I run and I run to the shrub area, but on the way to the shrubs, I start shitting and it's snowing, it's winter. So there's snow on the ground and I start shitting in the snow. I get to the shrubs where I like assess the damage. I'd shit all over the outside of my jeans and I wipe with my socks. I take some snow and I try to wipe the shit off and it just coagulates and hardens the shit. And also you're miles away from home at this point. Oh my God. I put my jeans inside out. So the shit was against my legs and I just waited for that cycle of the line to go in. And then I just kind of casually walked to the new back of the line and I waited the entire time. And then I got into the arena. I went right to the bathroom. I got completely naked. I called my dad and I said, dad, I need you to pick me up. I just shit my pants. And it was like 9 p.m. or like 8 p.m. And he was like, I'm on the way. And he came with a bag of clothes and it was like he had shit himself once. What a man. Did you ever vomit on stage? Yeah, I have. Yeah. When you have like proper food poisoning. Yeah, I vomited. Not like on the stage, but like I went off to the side of stage. Mochi. Have I ever showed you pictures of what his concerts look like? It's really impressive. Your concerts, the selfies that you take at the end of the concerts are so mind blowing that to me, like when I would be dating women. Yeah. I literally like because they would be like, you're a rapper. We talk about the music industry and like who the biggest artists were. And I would be like, you don't even understand. Like Ed Sheeran is like. He did this to me. The biggest. Like you don't even. And then I would show pictures and it looks like it's like it's like it's Uzbenekistan, night three. I am going to be like, night six, Chibari. Yeah, and it looks like Woodstock. He did this exact. You did this to me. Yeah, I've done it too. He went through like all of it. He'd be like, and then look at this place. It's the most impressive thing I've ever seen. It's like Niburn, night six. Yeah. It's like. I do think that there is a there is a thing I think because it's so financially great touring the States that when you get big in the States, people just tend to stay here. But I've always like whenever I've toured, if you go everywhere, you you basically sow seeds everywhere in the world that you can go back to. So the first gigs I would have played would be like 100 people and it'd be like 500 people, but everywhere. And then you build it up to a point where everywhere in the world you're at a certain point. And I think that When we go places, a lot of the times we lose money, even if we sell out the shows, just because it costs so much to get the stuff there. But you can always balance it out with the other gigs. My favorite. I think to be truly global, you have to be truly global. Yeah. Chris. When you go on stage, do you ever, I've never been on stage, so in front of a lot of people or actually on any stage. But do you like, can you even, do you ever just fixate like on, aren't you seeing like one or two people like every time, like the same person every time you look out? And does that not get distracting? Depends really. I mean, yeah, you do sort of fixate. I fixate a lot on what I've found is my gigs have become, because we try and keep our tickets like affordable. So I really want families to come. So like parents and kids or like grandparents, like people come as like a community rather than just it's really expensive. And two friends go or something like that. So I love looking out and seeing like love in all its different forms because they all come. People tend to come to the shows for perfect and thinking out loud and photograph and blah, blah, blah. And on those moments, you just see the whole kind of crowd like cuddle into their love. It's really lovely. So I do fixate on that. Like if you see, sometimes you'll see like an 80-year-old couple in the audience. And I'll know that when I go, I found a love, you just see them kind of like, it's really nice. Have you ever? Have you ever experienced, I guess you probably don't because they're really paying to go. But like at a festival, for example, like have you ever noticed an Ed Sheeran hater? And like when I'm on stage at festivals, sometimes for sure I walk out and people are just like, I can see they like hate me instinctively. One time I was performing, I was on stage and I could just see through a crowd of people. One woman was like. And all I could do is look at her and like I'm in the middle of a verse. Like so it's like, but you're like looking at her and I want to be like, why? Like there's no. Like I'm like, you know, this is like entertaining. Like, you know, I'm trying hard and being myself. Like why? And I just like, but I can't. I want to argue with this woman. I don't know. I find, I think the hate for me comes from everything that isn't a show. And I think the people at a festival would be like, I don't really like Ed. Fine, I'm not going to go. But they'll kind of go out of curiosity anyway. And then I think once you're there, you're like, I quite like that song. Yeah. And then it. And I do think that that's kind of where that's where coolness dissipates. Yeah. Like if you're, if you're out and about, like, I'm not saying this now because Backstreet Boys are having like a fucking moment at this sphere. But my go to song for a playlist is like, I want it that way. And I would say 15 years ago wouldn't be considered the coolest song. But for the last 15 years, anytime you put it on at any party, everyone loves it. They just would be like, oh, I don't like the Backstreet Boys. But actually, you fucking do. And I think that there's a there is that with me. I feel like on the outside, people are like, that's quite uncool. But actually, on the inside, if you have a couple of beers and you're with your friends at a festival, you want to sing to shit, you know. And I know that people know my music. So it's I do think that there's less. I feel like when people are at shows before the show, they'd be like, ah, fuck that guy. But actually, we're in the moment. It's as long as you're playing shit that people know. If I went on stage and I just played loads of new songs, then, yeah, I reckon I'd get a few like. My favorite, Kristen, my favorite is I was just thinking of you like having to like like because you're like you don't like like pain and like you like when you get sick. You're like when you get sick. One time I was with Ed and he was it was his first time ever. I think it might have been his first time ever playing a stadium. I can't remember. But he was so sick. He was and he was and he was like he was like Gillette. Yeah, Gillette. And he was like, oh, oh. And he couldn't he couldn't sing. His voice was completely gone. His throat was gone. He had like the worst fever. They were like coming in and out. And I was like, oh, my God. I was like, are you like not going to play the show? And he's like, I have to. And I said, what do you mean you have to? He's like, I can't. I've never missed a show unless it's something like out of my control. And I was like, what do you mean you like can't. How are you going to sing? He's like, I might have to get the crowd to help. And then I was like, oh, my God. And I remember Stuart, his manager was there. And like Ed like walked out to go. They were like, what's he going to do? How's he going to do it? And then somehow it was like his best show of the tour. He's like, he's like, I was just trying to think of you doing like having to do it in that moment. I mean, I don't know. But I imagine that there has to be some like adrenaline that 100 percent of your body. 100 percent. Yeah. Because then after the gig, you're even more fucked than you were. I feel like, again, having not done not being a performer, I would have such a hard time because I like highs. I'm a little bit of a high chaser. It'd be so hard to come down after a concert. Like that. Like, I don't know what I would have to take some sort of drug. It's massages. I like finish the show just and it happened by accident because I'd fucked my shoulder. So I was like, oh, I'll get like a sports massage after a gig. And after an hour and a half of that, you're like, yeah, I'm ready to go to bed because it's so hard to turn off. I mean, you're just you've gone through like such a it's a good, good life hack for me. It has replaced a bottle of wine. Yeah. Yeah. And I'll finish it and be like, I can't drink. I'm going straight to bed. Yeah, you're relaxed. Whereas before I would like have a bottle of wine, maybe watch a movie. And yeah, it's just needing to come down. And if you're playing in front of, I don't know, hundreds of hundreds of thousands, a couple of times it has been. It's about it averages between like 60 and 80,000. All for you. Yeah. And do you and I think you're going to say yes. But like you attribute your ability to have like 80,000 people in like I'm just making up like in Manila or whatever. You attribute it to your commitment. To obviously you have big global songs, but if you didn't tour, like I always think to myself that I don't need to tour. I can make music that ends up being big enough that whenever I show up, they're there. But I think you're saying not necessarily the case. Like thinking. out loud whatever maybe they'll hear it in manila but for them for me to get the 60 000 people in manila or whatever yeah you have to go there yeah yeah i really do believe that and also like music isn't just uh memories and experiences of you hearing it i really do think that being at concerts with friends are like or family or whatever like it creates core memories and connections with that song and that artist so then if more songs come out or other songs like i do think touring is really important for being connected to people yeah um and yeah and and also like not um you're right mate yeah i just had a little bath and let's go um yeah being like there have been so many times in my career where people are like oh people don't tour that country you're going to lose money going there and that in my mind makes me want to do it more and you go it is mad selling out a show and losing money whilst doing it but then kind of the the reward versus loss actually is cooler like going to play places that other people haven't played why are you losing money because it costs so much yeah it costs money to like freight there and then like hiring people and flying people hotel we fly with like 200 people so that's 200 hotels 200 yeah you know there's step you know like on his show there's like hundreds of 200 people i know come and the problem is you won't price up the tickets well that's that's the other thing i really really want it to be a communal yeah thing and i do think if you start having 600 tickets people people will go to the show and people will enjoy the show but you're not if if you're a couple you're not going to go i will bring our kids to you oh that'll be our special night whereas i think if you have hundred dollar tickets you can then you're like and that's still that's still four hundred dollars that's expensive at his shows like sometimes you see like a whole person's family tree yeah like it's so crazy like you'll go to a show you'll see like the daughter knows the music then the parents know the music then like the grandparent they see like the great and there's like there's like old people just sitting there that's how you get uh long longevity though because i think that those kids will grow up and then bring their kids you know what else one time i was at his last show of his tour when he had the he did the biggest tour of all time he had like the biggest tour he broke like a u2's record am i making that up everyone's record i mean anything you're just waiting for someone else to break i had the same when uh shape of you was number one most streamed on spotify you just see blinding lights creeping up and you're like this will end very soon but it's the same with tour like uh my record got taken over by elton with his tour and then elton's record got overtaken by taylor with her tour and then cole player creeping up with that so it's just is right now taylor holding the number yeah so she's highest grossing and i think cold player highest attendance i remember oh i thought it was all like when you said biggest tour i thought it was no so i was so mine was grossing and attendance yeah now it's like it's people hold different records different things is there ever is there one for as many cities uh coldplay would definitely have that i think they've definitely pushed it i remember we were sitting there last show of the tour and i said where are we playing he's where are you playing he said ipswich i remember we were drinking a beer i don't even know if you remember this and louis capaldi was opening up for you and ed said he goes well i guess this is it and i said what yeah and he said i can only go down from here and i said what are you very weird feelings he was like i had the biggest album like ever i had like the biggest tour ever he goes i can't get i can't get bigger yeah but look at elton john he's still breaking your record yeah you could break your own record when you're 80. yeah it's less of my drive now i think then 2011 2019 it was just bigger bigger bigger bigger bigger bigger bigger i do remember a thing with you that i'll never forget that i used to tell artists all the time he came back to play me his music at when he was about to put new music out and it was like uh shivers and what was the other and bad habits and he said i'm so nervous he's like i just like don't know if anyone cares about me anymore i like don't think i have i don't know if anyone cares about me anymore i like don't think i have i don't know if anyone cares about me anymore i like don't think i have i don't know if anyone cares about me anymore i like don't think i have i don't know if anyone cares about me anymore i like don't think i have i don't know if anyone cares about me anymore i like don't think i don't know if anyone cares about me anymore i like don't think i have any records and i always use it and obviously those songs in that album were massive massive success but i always use it to people when i'm like no matter who you are like you always have those moments where you have doubts and stuff and it doesn't matter if you're the biggest person in the world there's still that insecurity i also i still have it now and i think you have to have different my like measures of success are like completely different now so i think when i was 27 my measure of success was my album is the biggest record i've ever made and i think it's the biggest record i've ever made and i think it's the biggest record i've ever made and i think it's the biggest record i've ever made album in the world my tour is the biggest tour in the world and that was my measure of success and that was my measure of success and that was my measure of success whereas now i'm like i get to this sounds so cheesy and whereas now i'm like i get to this sounds so cheesy and cliched but i get to take my kids to school cliched but i get to take my kids to school cliched but i get to take my kids to school every day i get to uh put them to bed do all every day i get to uh put them to bed do all every day i get to uh put them to bed do all the bath time i guess still get to do studio the bath time i guess still get to do studio the bath time i guess still get to do studio and i still get to play stadiums every weekend and i still get to play stadiums every weekend and i still get to play stadiums every weekend what more do you want from that like it's what more do you want from that like it's what more do you want from that like it's you i still get to live in a peak of my you i still get to live in a peak of my you i still get to live in a peak of my career where i'm like career where i'm like career where i'm like i can play big shows and like touch wood i can play big shows and like touch wood i can play big shows and like touch wood they're like still selling out i can put they're like still selling out i can put they're like still selling out i can put out music that like isn't the biggest in out music that like isn't the biggest in out music that like isn't the biggest in the world that people still care about at the world that people still care about at the world that people still care about at least to even if they're just like that least to even if they're just like that least to even if they're just like that sucks at least they're listening yeah um sucks at least they're listening yeah um sucks at least they're listening yeah um but then i also get to like but then i also get to like but then i also get to like be a dad and a husband and that hasn't be a dad and a husband and that hasn't be a dad and a husband and that hasn't like so i think that like so i think that like so i think that that is success i think as opposed to that is success i think as opposed to that is success i think as opposed to like being like being like being number one in this number one because number one in this number one because number one in this number one because actually when i was number one actually when i was number one actually when i was number one in all of those things i was intensely in all of those things i was intensely in all of those things i was intensely unhappy because i didn't have unhappy because i didn't have unhappy because i didn't have balance of you hear that a lot but i balance of you hear that a lot but i balance of you hear that a lot but i also think that like now that you've also think that like now that you've also think that like now that you've achieved all of that your brain starts achieved all of that your brain starts achieved all of that your brain starts to kind of get used to like yeah like to kind of get used to like yeah like Like, even if there was another ceiling now that you have this, like, new thing, which is your family and your kids. Yeah. It's like, what more do you need? One time I was in New York City, and, like, I was just staying at his house, but you guys happened to have a session. And I was just so thrilled to be able to just sit in the back of the room and just watch you guys do it. And it was so fascinating. What did we write? Can you remember? I can't remember. I just remember the way, like, you're just such a, there's, like, I feel like songwriting at its core is what you do. Like, that's what I remember thinking. Like, the way he is writing a song is, like, that is songwriting. And then he was just chiming, and everybody, you don't even need him. Did you guys write, I'm not saying do this. This is just out of curiosity. Yes, he could do anything. No, but, I mean, you have an hour. I mean, this is probably how it works. Yeah, we could do it. We could definitely write a song. We could literally, we could. I think because we haven't written in a while, it would be super quick, because it would just be. And you have no, you don't even know who it's for or what it is. No, we could do a thing. I have no idea if we even have time for this, but we could do a thing right now where, like, without using any, like, fake sounds, like, if we want to, for, like, two seconds, if me and you made, like, a beat. Let's do it. Wait, but we'll wait before. We'll make a beat, and then, like, Kristen, you'll give us, like, a phrase, and then we'll, like, make a freestyle song over it. I'm down. Really? I don't like a tongue. And it's not stressful for you guys? No, we'll do it. This is actually fun. We haven't made music together in so long. Yeah, and then you get to be a producer on the, you get a producer credit. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Wow. Okay, okay, so we're going to watch this take off. Yeah, now. Now what? Airbnb now. Airbnb. What about Airbnb? Got any good stories? I think I do have a good story. I, uh, am I allowed to talk? Yeah, go, go, go. Oh, I booked a place on Airbnb, and it was, like, the most beautiful, like, airstream overlooking all of Malibu. And it was, like, only one bathroom. I don't know, but it was so cute and quaint, and I had one of the best weekends. It was one of the best weekends of my life, thanks to. I wasn't there. I don't remember this. How could it have been one of the best weekends of your life? Thanks, Airbnb. No, or it's a place. Wait, what's that? What's that? Wait, wait. They're telling me it works. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. This show is sponsored by Liquid IV. Did you know Liquid IV has 3X? That's triple the hydration. That's a typical sports drink. I'm talking to you. Oh, do I? Yes. No, I didn't know. I know now, though. Yeah. Are you a sports star? I'm a great basketball player. I'm a great athlete in general. There's a lot of sports that I'm good at. You can just go to YouTube, Google, whatever, type in Lil Dicky basketball. 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Yeah. - So if you do the- - Okay, yeah, of course. Okay, so now what I'm gonna do- - What's that, 88 BPM? - What I'm gonna do is- - You're thinking D? - No, 'cause I only make, Benny always says I'm either - 190 BPM or 110. - Yeah. - I don't even understand the BPMs. - You thinking C, D, what key you thinking? - I wanna see what the thing that catches it. - Watch, yeah. - Okay, so right now I'm making this into a beat. So I'm gonna do it. - Yeah, I'm just gonna. - Okay. I'm putting this all in time, okay? - Yeah. - Okay. - See what he's doing? - I mean. - Oh, he's looping it? - Yeah, he's cutting it. - This is your dream to slice and dice. - I do like, yeah, but he moves so fast. - Well, you gotta move so fast with that. - Look at the software. - So do you want it to be like sound dark or light? Do you want it to be like, I think lighter. - Yeah. - Like light and like, just kind of like a joyful. - So like summary, summary shit. - Yeah, summary, summary. - Summary, maybe about friends. - Yeah, friendship, friendship. - Yeah. - Well, whatever he wants. - Or friendship in your 30s. - Whatever you want actually, friendship in your, yeah. - Life. - No, like party, party. - No, I think friendship in your 30s is nice. - I think just the joy of hanging out with friends. - I agree, I like what he's doing. Feels like that. I love that. - Already like a tear is forming. - I love it. I love it. - Can we commit to that? I have goosebumps. - I love that. - Do you want me to put that in? - Yeah, we don't even need the headphones. - What? Oh, you don't. - You can if you want. - Can I hold it up? - Yeah, yeah, I got you. i think the first one yeah and then uh bridge i love the yeah yeah yeah i'm so all right okay you're ready i'm ready to write let me know if you need top line hold on sorry i got the first first one okay and then i'll do the bridge which others got it do you want to add something i think the first one's good it's a great i want to be i love it when i'm driving down the road and the sun is out and i'm thinking about it yeah i already have tears forming i love music look me and kristen are the ones in the room that in the concert going like this yeah i have to pee but i don't want to miss anything i'm like now's the time now's the time okay okay give me more subjects oh now's not the time um okay uh so it's a summer day friends you're just thinking about like how good it feels to be laughing and smiling with your friends i'll come back now me and my friends driving on your road summertime too much of the toko is um um. okay you like it already i love it i love it i'm like i like i was getting tears i love his mouth we just made the beat live we just made the beat live we just made the beat live unbelievable let me just put this first bit in okay the first bit and then and then we'll all freestyle together i mean yeah just lyrically i don't know that i fit into that you ready ready me and my friends driving around the road summertime we got the top down here we go live fast we want to die slow all we got is our time my love and i know okay let me do another book here goosebumps uh see you i think permanent no no it's been a it doesn't really show you i just pushed him down okay me and my friends driving around the road summertime we got the top down here we go live fast we want to die slow all we got is our time my love and i know it's been a hard ride in a long long time let me put that in okay it's been a hard ride if fast we want to die slow it's been a hard ride in a long time with the bone map it doesn't see you it's been a hard ride in a long time and i know i gotta see you smile it's been a hard ride in a long time you can be turned It's been a hard ride and a long, hard ride and a long time since you and I both smiled. One more time. Yeah, let's go on. Yeah. It's been a hard ride and a long, hard ride and a long time since you and I, you and I both smiled. In the long time since you and I, you and I both smiled. One more time. Yeah, one more time. It's been a hard ride. But then I had to pass a ride. I'm obsessed. It's been a hard ride and a long time since you and I, you and I both smiled. See, this is songwriting. Oh, wow. I'd ride and then pass a ride. You realize, like, you're like watching, like, two, like, absolute. Oh, I realize that. But we gotta put the pass in the rearview. What? We got? Yeah. Yeah, got you. Rearview. How do you like that? Yeah. Long time since you and I, you and I both smiled. So I'm gonna burn up and I'm gonna feel you. Yeah. Hard ride and a long time since you and I, you and I both smiled. We're sitting in silence but I can hear you loud. And I hear you, yeah. Sitting in silence but I can hear you, yeah. Yeah, one more time? Yeah, got you. What about hear you loud? I like, oh yeah. No, sit, yeah, sit. No, 'cause it's gotta be the next. Yeah. I like this thing. Sitting in silence but I can hear you loud. Yeah, got you, yeah. Yeah. We gotta put the pass in the rearview. I hear you now. I see you. I see you now. Okay, yeah. I hear you loud. I see you now. I see you now. Tipping the bottom and never beating you out. I hear you loud. I see you now. Yeah, okay. I see you now. I hear you loud. I see you now. Yeah, okay. I see you now. I hear you now. I see you now. I see you now. I hear you now. I see you now. I hear you now. I see you now. ♪ But I can hear you loud, I see you now ♪ ♪ Me and you, we got stress and real life in our chest ♪ ♪ Up in the bottle, can't tell me to burn 'em all up ♪ ♪ Let's tell me to burn 'em until it's not in there ♪ ♪ Let's uh, so sip on the bottle until it's the end ♪ ♪ But I can hear you loud, I see you now ♪ ♪ Me and you, we got stress and real life in our chest ♪ ♪ So sip on the bottle until there's nothing left ♪ ♪ I'm up in our bed ♪ - Okay, subject matter, where are we going? - Okay. - Okay, so they just drank the bottle. - Do you wanna hear where we're at so far? ♪ Me and my friends driving around the road ♪ ♪ Summertime, we got the top down, here we go ♪ ♪ Live fast, we wanna die slow ♪ ♪ All we got is our time, our love and I know ♪ ♪ It's been a hard ride and a long time ♪ ♪ Since you and I, you and I have both smiled ♪ ♪ We gotta put the past in the preview ♪ ♪ Sitting in silence but I can hear you loud, I see you now ♪ ♪ Me and you, we got stress and real life in our chest ♪ - Let me do this. ♪ So sip on the ♪ ♪ Hear you loud ♪ - Yeah. ♪ Since you and I, you and I have both smiled ♪ ♪ We gotta put the past in the preview ♪ ♪ Sitting in silence but I can hear you now, I see you now ♪ ♪ Me and you, we got stress and real life in our chest ♪ ♪ So sip on the bottle until there's nothing left ♪ - Yeah. - I love it. - And now we're at the hook, so this is, right? - Here, but the story is, - Yeah, so where? - there's two friends, they're in their 30s, they've had life experience, maybe they've kind of fallen off and they've not talked a lot, and now they're back together and they broke through the quiet time. Now they're drinking and laughing and bonding again and going over past memories. - As if there's been no time has passed. - 'Cause they're old friends and they share a history. - Yeah. - Okay, play the chorus. ♪ Me and you, we got stress and real life in our chest ♪ So sip from the bottle until there's nothing left. ♪ Yeah ♪ ♪ Ain't it funny how ♪ ♪ It ain't like this ♪ ♪ Feel like ♪ - Okay. ♪ Ain't it funny how ♪ ♪ Feels like no time has passed ♪ - Yep. - Okay, you want to get from there? - Yep. ♪ Yeah ♪ ♪ Ain't it funny how ♪ ♪ Feels like no time has passed ♪ ♪ It's been a long time ♪ - Yeah. ♪ Ain't it funny how ♪ ♪ Feels like no time has passed ♪ - I've got long-term. ♪ It's been years since ♪ - I like that. ♪ It's been years since you ♪ ♪ Ain't it funny how ♪ ♪ Feels like no time has passed ♪ ♪ It's been years since ♪ ♪ You and I feel it ♪ ♪ You and I ♪ ♪ You and I feel it now ♪ ♪ It's been years since ♪ Let me do an octave of that. ♪ Ain't it funny how ♪ Yeah. ♪ There's nothing left ♪ ♪ Ain't it funny how ♪ ♪ Feels like no time has passed ♪ ♪ It's been years since ♪ ♪ You've been on my mind ♪ Maybe something really specific that they've done together. ♪ We don't do like this ♪ ♪ Since ♪ ♪ It's been years since ♪ ♪ It's been years since ♪ ♪ We have been like ♪ ♪ Ain't it ♪ ♪ We have been like ♪ ♪ Ain't it funny how ♪ ♪ Feels like no time has passed ♪ ♪ It's been years since ♪ ♪ We have been like this ♪ ♪ Down on the ♪ Okay, okay. ♪ We have been like this ♪ ♪ It's past ♪ Yeah. ♪ It's been years since ♪ ♪ We have been like this ♪ ♪ Mid-thirties mouthing out stuff ♪ Mid-thirties laughing up ♪ Mid ♪ Mid-thirties burning this state Ain't it funny how Feels like no time has passed Myth 30's in a bad place We have been like this Myth 30's in a bad place On Alabama I'm so glad you came in my I'm so glad you came in my way So Yeah Myth 30's in a bad place So thank God you're in my Thank God you're in my ♪ Been like this, mid thirties in a bad place ♪ ♪ Thank God you're in my space, space ♪ - Thank God, no. ♪ Thank God you're here today ♪ - Yeah. - Thank God you're here today. ♪ Been like this, mid thirties in a bad place ♪ ♪ Thank God you're here today ♪ - Okay, let me do it. ♪ Mid thirties in a bad place ♪ - It's my new favorite song. - Great. - Do you think it's a hit? - Yeah, yeah. - I think it's an incredible, I think you guys just made it. ♪ We have been like this ♪ ♪ Mid-thirties in a bad place ♪ ♪ Thank God you're here today ♪ ♪ Turn the manual and start to play ♪ ♪ It's like now no time has passed ♪ - I would love some motivation about how life works. - Oh, I got you there. ♪ Thank God you're here today ♪ ♪ Maybe life works in mysterious ways ♪ - Yeah. ♪ I think life ♪ ♪ Thank God you're here today ♪ ♪ And I think life, I think life works ♪ ♪ I think life, thank God you're here today ♪ ♪ And I think life works in mysterious ways ♪ - Yeah. - Okay, and then after that, we'll do a post. Yeah, we'll do, okay, get that, well. ♪ Thank God you're here today ♪ ♪ And I think life works in mysterious ways ♪ ♪ I think life works ♪ Yeah. Yeah. ♪ I'm glad you're here today ♪ ♪ Nothing life works in mysterious ways ♪ ♪ Do do do, do do do do ♪ ♪ Do do do, do do do ♪ ♪ Do do do, do do do do ♪ ♪ In mysterious ways ♪ - All right, and then let me go. ♪ In mysterious ways ♪ - Yeah, I'll double that. Do the low one first though. - Yeah. - Do the low one. ♪ Nothing life works in mysterious ways ♪ ♪ Do do do, do do do do, do do do do do do ♪ ♪ Do do do, do do do do do do do do ♪ ♪ Do do do, do do do do, do do do do do do ♪ ♪ In mysterious ways ♪ - All right, let me do a harmony. ♪ Thank God you're here today ♪ ♪ Nothing life works in mysterious ways ♪ ♪ Do-do-do, do-do-do-do, do-do-do, do-do-do ♪ ♪ Do-do-do, do-do-do-do, in mysterious ways ♪ ♪ Do-do-do, do-do-do-do, do-do-do ♪ - Great. - Yeah, I know. - Fire. Can we have a rap now? - Oh! - Has to be. ♪ Nothing like, nothing like works in mysterious ways ♪ ♪ Do-do-do, do-do-do-do, do-do-do, do-do-do ♪ ♪ Do-do-do, do-do-do-do ♪ ♪ In a mysterious way ♪ - Play it from the top? - Yeah. ♪ Do-do-do ♪ - Okay. ♪ Me and my friends driving around the road ♪ ♪ Summertime, we got the top down, here we go ♪ ♪ Live fast, we wanna die slow ♪ ♪ All we got is our time, my love and I know ♪ ♪ It's been a hard ride and a long time ♪ ♪ Since you and I, you and I, it's fine ♪ I couldn't pass it with you Sitting inside us but I can hear you now I see you now Me and you, we got stress And real time's in our chest So sip in a bottle until there's nothing left Ain't it funny how Feels like no time has passed It's been years since We have been like that Mid-thirties in a bad place ♪ Thank God you're here today ♪ ♪ Nothing like worse ♪ ♪ In mysterious ways ♪ ♪ Doo-doo-doo, doo-doo-doo ♪ - That's so good. ♪ Doo-doo-doo, doo-doo-doo ♪ ♪ Doo-doo-doo, doo-doo-doo ♪ ♪ In mysterious ways ♪ ♪ Doo-doo-doo, doo-doo-doo ♪ - Let me do another verse, like. - Oh, you're done? - I'll do another verse. - It makes my eyes cry, it makes me cry. ♪ And then I think like people ♪ - You know, Ed can't not finish a song. We have to finish it. Because if he doesn't finish the song, then it might get into the next one if it's a bad one. We lost her. I like that. That's good work. Wait, if he doesn't finish the song, finish the song what? He has to finish the song because if he doesn't finish the song, then if it's a bad one, some of the bad song could go into that. It's the most annoying thing on the work. I mean, this is pretty. No, he has no idea. He doesn't know what's the best. Nope. Yeah, because they're all so good, no matter what. That was going to be my question. So you can, you really, guys, you can do this at the drop of a hat. Yes. It's crazy. And we're working at such a fast pace. The editing and the process. And then usually I have to finish the song when he goes on stage, and then by the time he comes back, it has to be finished. It's truly, it's already beaten. It's already beaten the best moment of my life. Much better than the other ones. Way better. Are you ready? No. Last time. ♪ A new and mysterious friend ♪ ♪ We lost touch when we lost you ♪ ♪ Spent our 20s chasing work too ♪ ♪ Bum, bum, bum, when I do ♪ - That's how Kristen just cried. - Why does it make me cry? ♪ We lost touch when we lost you ♪ ♪ Spent our 20s chasing work too ♪ ♪ Hit me hard when I saw you ♪ ♪ We lost touch when we lost you ♪ ♪ You spend all 20s chasing ♪ Hit me hard when I saw you, I remember, I remember all that we've been through Same Hit me hard when I saw you, I remember, I remember all that we've been through Hit me hard when I saw you, I remember, I remember all we've been through Heartbreak, heartache, and a, and a, and a couple of, couple of bumps Yeah, cool, yeah. ♪ ♪ ♪ Heartbreak, heartache, and a couple bumps in the road ♪ ♪ And I ♪ Uh, uh, couple bumps. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ Yeah. ♪ ♪ ♪ Heartbreak, heartache, and a couple bumps in the road ♪ ♪ And I feel you now ♪ Uh. Uh. ♪ And it ♪ ♪ And it funny ♪ ♪ Heartbreak, heartache, and a couple bumps in the road ♪ ♪ It's funny looking back where we are now ♪ ♪ Sitting in silence but I can hear you loud ♪ ♪ I see you now ♪ Great. You wanna get some harmonies? Uh. I think I got a go. Oh. Nicole! Check. He literally just goes, "I think I gotta go, I finished it." How late are we? We're gonna go. Come on. Okay. I gotta go. Oh my god, it was incredible. Play it. Yeah, play it once. Play it once. You beat my, you beat my best moment. ♪ ♪ ♪ Me and my friends driving around the road ♪ ♪ Summertime, we got the top down ♪ ♪ We got the top down, here we go ♪ Best song ever. Oh, that was good. Best song ever. That you've made. ♪ All we got is our time ♪ ♪ My love and I know ♪ ♪ It's been a hard ride ♪ ♪ And a long time ♪ ♪ Since you and I ♪ ♪ You and I both smile ♪ ♪ But we gotta put the past in the preview ♪ ♪ Sitting in silence but I can hear you loud ♪ ♪ And see you now ♪ By the way, that was about 60 minutes, I think. And it's done. ♪ Me and you ♪ ♪ We got stress and real life in our chest ♪ It's unreal. ♪ To sip on the bottle until there's nothing left ♪ ♪ Ain't it funny how ♪ ♪ Feels like no time has passed ♪ ♪ It's been years since ♪ ♪ We have been like this ♪ ♪ Mid thirties in a bad place ♪ ♪ Thank god you're here today ♪ ♪ Me and my friends driving around the road ♪ We have been like this. ♪ Summertime, we got the top down ♪ ♪ Me and my friends driving around the road ♪ ♪ Sitting in silence but I can hear you loud ♪ Thank God you're here today Nothing like worse In mysterious ways Do-do-do, do-do-do-do Do-do-do, do-do-do Do-do-do, do-do-do-do Chuck, you ready for the second verse? In mysterious ways We already did it Do-do-do, do-do-do-do I think you hopped the first post Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so too Okay, Chuck, it takes you six years to make this work We lost touch when we lost you Spent our twenties chasing world too Hit me hard when I saw you I remember, I remember all that we've been through Heartbreak, heartache And a couple bumps in the road It's funny looking back where we are now Sitting in silence but I can hear you loud I see you now, me and you We got stress and real life So you better do the best verse of your life ♪ From the bottle until there's nothing left ♪ ♪ Ain't it funny how it feels like no time has passed ♪ - Love you. - That was great. - I love you. I'll see you in a week. - It was so nice to meet you that night. - It was awesome. - You beat the moment. - Great hand. - Check this out. We'll finish this up. Don't worry. - Yeah, we'll take care of it. - Don't worry. - We'll take care of it. - Bye, love you. - I'll do the mastering. Bye. - Thank you for coming. - See you. ♪ It's funny how ♪ - Ooh, would you like me to do a little melody? I could probably do some songwriting to add. - I think we should add a few Kristen runs. - Okay, come on, Munchie. - So when do I do it? I just do it whenever? - You start it. The whole song. - Oh, here, let me start the whole song. ♪ Sometimes we got the top down, here we go ♪ ♪ Sometimes we got the top down, here we go ♪ ♪ Sometimes we wanna do low ♪ ♪ Sometimes we wanna do low ♪ ♪ Sometimes we wanna do low ♪ ♪ All we got is our time ♪ ♪ All we got is our time ♪ ♪ All we got is our time ♪ ♪ My love, we're not, no ♪ ♪ Let the girls say, do-do-do-do-do-ya ♪ ♪ Since you and I ♪ ♪ Do not, you know ♪ ♪ We gotta put the past in the preview ♪ ♪ Sitting inside is where I can hear you ♪ - See you next time. - See you next time. - See you now. - Me and you, we got stress and real life in our chest. So sit in the bottle until there's nothing left. - Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. - Beautiful. - Feels like no time has passed. - You're doing good. No, keep going. - It's been years since we have been like this. ♪ 30s in a bad place ♪ ♪ Thank God you're here today ♪ ♪ Nothing like worse ♪ ♪ In a mysterious way ♪

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The conversation blends personal anecdotes, humor, and reflections on fame, parenting, and everyday quirks.
  2. Ed Sheeran and his friends discuss their shared nicknames, including "Chuck," which became a widespread nickname among them due to repeated use in personal and social settings.
  3. A recurring theme is the mix of humor and embarrassment around physical and social rituals, such as Chuck’s need to be soaked before exercising and strong reactions to touching his belly button.
  4. They share stories of childhood, family, and personal milestones, including parenting challenges, a cancer diagnosis, and the emotional weight of legal battles.
  5. A key point is the contrast between public perception of fame and private, grounded realities—highlighting the importance of normalcy and authenticity in personal life.
  6. The group reflects on cultural shifts, such as the decline of traditional movie theater experiences and a growing reliance on streaming, sparking interest in reviving meaningful, low-budget cinema.
  7. There's a strong emphasis on personal values, like honoring creativity, preserving instruments, and valuing simple, heartfelt gifts over materialism.
  8. Humorous and chaotic moments, like accidental spills on expensive rugs or clumsy actions involving hoverboards and ketchup bottles, underscore the informality and authenticity of their friendship.

Summary:

The conversation is a warm, humorous, and deeply personal reflection on friendship, fame, parenting, and everyday life. Ed Sheeran and his friends share candid stories about their nicknames—especially "Chuck," which evolved organically through repeated use and became a unifying bond. They discuss quirks like Chuck’s need to be soaked before exercising and the awkwardness of touching his belly button, highlighting their shared sense of humor and vulnerability.

Personal milestones, including a cancer diagnosis and legal battles, are framed not as tragedies, but as defining moments that shaped their values. The discussion also touches on cultural shifts, such as the decline of traditional cinema and the rise of streaming, sparking a passion for making a low-budget, R-rated comedy that could revive meaningful theater experiences. Amid the humor, there’s a strong emphasis on authenticity—valuing simple, heartfelt moments over fame or material possessions.

From childhood memories to awkward school moments, like a high school bus incident where a sudden urge to use the bathroom caused a chaotic chain reaction, the narrative reveals a deep connection built on honesty, shared experiences, and mutual understanding. The tone remains light and reflective, showing how personal rituals, family dynamics, and friendship form a foundation for navigating fame and life’s challenges.

FAQs

The nickname 'Chuck' started as a mutual nickname between the individuals, with it being used more frequently than 'Mochi'. It became widespread when friends began calling each other 'Chuck' often, eventually becoming a common term used by multiple people, including in public settings.

Ed Sheeran and Chuck first met on Skype when they were working on a song for the Lego Batman movie. They collaborated remotely, with Chuck recalling that he had to leave the call to use the bathroom, leaving Ed alone on the screen with him.

Chuck insists on being completely soaked before engaging in any physical activity, whether it's exercise or a workout. He doesn't use soap but just rinses, and he finds it frustrating when he becomes sweaty after a shower.

Chuck respects Ed Sheeran's music and acknowledges his fame, noting that he's often seen as a symbol of a generation. He also recognizes Ed’s public presence and the challenges it brings to personal life, especially in terms of parenting and privacy.

Yes, Chuck has anxiety, particularly in public spaces. He attributes this to being a public figure and the pressures that come with fame. However, having children has helped him feel more grounded and focused on being a normal dad rather than a celebrity.

Chuck has a strong obsession with Heinz ketchup, carrying a bottle with him everywhere. He even created an ad campaign based on it, where he goes to fancy restaurants and requests ketchup, which he believes is a sign of good food culture.

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