The podcast features a dynamic, often humorous, and deeply cultural conversation centered on the roots of hip-hop and the influence of key artists like Michael Jackson and Diddy. The discussion begins with a celebration of dance history, tracing Michael Jackson’s moves to early choreographers like Bob Fawsey and Jackie Wilson, emphasizing cultural exchange and mentorship as key to artistic evolution. It then shifts to a controversial segment about Diddy’s alleged privileges in federal prison, including access to cell phones, alcohol, and personal services, sparking debate on ethics, privilege, and rehabilitation. The hosts explore how identity and cultural labels—such as “Crip” or being a gang member—develop from lived experiences rather than rigid definitions. A significant portion of the dialogue focuses on the legacy of 1990s West Coast hip-hop, crediting artists like Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, and Warren G for shaping the genre through collaboration and innovation. The conversation also touches on real-world issues, such as a viral incident involving a transgender woman and a public figure, and the importance of personal accountability and growth. Ultimately, the podcast underscores the value of learning from great artists, the complexity of cultural identity, and the ongoing relevance of past eras in shaping today’s music and society. The tone remains playful and reflective, blending entertainment with thoughtful commentary on social, cultural, and personal dimensions.
(upbeat music) - Yep, Charlemagne, the guy hands through show. We are the brand new podcast back for another week of brilliant idiotness. And you know, we usually don't have guests. There's only a few people with that. You know, we like to have, come on. - Very brilliant. - And you know, do the brilliant idiot thing. But this guy is a recurring guest on brilliant idiots. Y'all love to hear him. The host of the no-sealance podcast. He's also a contributor and writer and actor on the new FX show, The Drop. The Locust here, Big Glasses belongs to him. Jean Malone. - Almost felt like we didn't even know Inter. We should have just started immediately with Diddy getting my size. - It takes you. - Yeah, sure. - That's how I started all of them. - All right, I'll be just, here's all my mind. I'll be like, we start right there. - Shout out to Diddy. Diddy of Crip, right? - Sure, sure. Might as well, I don't really have nothing else. - But there is a list of celebrity Crips and Nelly. See, I didn't know that to you, too. - Jay-Z. - What? - Jay's Crip? - Yeah, Nelly Jay. - Did they earn this Criptum after a fame or did they earn it prior? - Well, I think they just choked. Nelly is a Crip. - Like, he was a Crip. - Nelly is a Crip. - How did that happen? - 'Cause they got Crips in St. Louis. Nelly is a real Crip. Nelly is a Crip. It's tons of, uh. - So is it like, when you say real Crip, like somebody that actually graduated, like didn't get like a honorary Crip? - I mean, I think they grew up in a neighborhood where all of the boys was Crips. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can you, you know how I knew that? 'Cause I saw them interact. - As soon as you see it. - I saw Nelly in the Crip. - I saw Nelly. - I was like, "Oh, this is a Crip." - That's a big cry, 'cause if you see me talk the most, you're like, "What up, homie?" - Nelly is like, "What up, my nigga?" Yeah, we'd be, Nelly, a real low. - I didn't know til I saw. - Can you be a Crip if you're just from the neighborhood? Or do you have to kind of do certain things? - No, no, it's not. - You go to college, professional athletes, tons of Crips, Westbrook's a Crip. - So it's like an ethnicity. If you're born in a region, you're from ethnicity. - Sure, sure, there's something to agree, but you also kind of grow up in it is just your thing. 'Cause Crippin is not necessarily a verb that describes one specific action. It's multiple. Like you can hoop. Hardness, a low 20 hoopin. I mean, excuse me, Westbrook's a low 20 hoopin. - Westbrook really won. - Yeah. - Remember after the Nipsy Pass? - Jason Terry. - When Nipsy pass Russell Taylor, he did it in the 2020, and he's like, "That's the 60, you know what that means?" I was like, "Wow." - That was a rollin' 60s. That was what he said. - What do you say? - Killa Mike's a Crip. - What? - Come on now, gee. Now you got to tell me that. - Oh my god. - Yeah. - That wasn't it. I thought he was just supporting it. - Yeah, no, 'cause he's a Crip. - God, man, how'd Mike become a Crip? - These dudes been Crip. They didn't become Crip. They just Crip. - What about Michael Jackson? Michael Jackson, they said-- - You see that? - It said Mike was Crip. - He was on a verge. - Yeah, he do got a video talking up a big C. - He said he was on the verge. What happened? I was like, "No." - No, I think he just stopped hanging. - But you know, Crip's, you know, gang members are very inviting and they'll make you feel like you're a part of it. Look at that. - Oh, yeah, I see that. And this is before AI. That's a real picture. I see that. - It's a real picture. - They actually showed us in the movie. We heard a lot of his street dancing from the Crips and Bob Fawsey. - Who's Bob Fawsey? - Goat. - I know about that. - Who's Bob Fawsey? - It's a great old one. - I'm not your video Bob Fawsey right now. - One of the greatest choreographers ever lived in. - Really? - We don't want to watch it because it'll break a lot of hearts. - Yeah. - Well, that's when Michael learned a lot of this stuff from him? - Don't want to watch it because it'll break a lot of-- - Mike was inspired by a lot of really great dancers. - I mean, it's not wrong with that, though. - There isn't a James Brown, Jackie Wilson, Bob Fawsey. And Mike took it to another level. - He took it to another level. - Oh, you know what's crazy? You got to see him. You got to do Bob Fawsey Mexican breakfast. This is going to look real familiar. Look at Mexican breakfast. - What the hell is Mexican breakfast? - Why don't you see the routine? It's going to blow your mind. - Yeah, this is the-- - No, no, this is right here when, yeah, this is all-- - This is Bob Fawsey right now. - So this movie is called The Little Prince. And he's a snake. So his dance moves are-- - Oh, Mike with human snake. - Oh, my God. - Yeah. - Well, yeah, it was this. - Before I think of this. - Yeah. - Wow, your Michael even took the shoes. - Yeah, man. - That's all smooth, criminal. - Mike got good taste, bro. - And Billy Jean. - Yeah. - Oh, see, I didn't know that. Absolutely, my God, John Bugs. John Bugs is a screen dancer. John Bugs was, you know, he said how Michael was influenced by a lot of different people, but I definitely hit Bob Fawsey's name. - Yeah, Jackie Wilson, James Brown. He had great taste. - Is Bob Mexican? - I think he's a white man. - White guy from Wisconsin. - No, he's not white. - That's what I'm saying. - I can't break. - Not white. - He's not white. - He's not white moving like that. He's not white moving like that. - I know this. - He don't matter so black or white. - That's the thing. - Mike really put that out there and he felt it. - You just said that was the all lives matter anthem. They would've hated Mike if they-- - What? - If Mike came out with that wreckage-- - Yeah, that happened to you and I-- - What? - Yeah. - They hated that. - Breakfast like fool, like warning in a fool. Breakfast. - Mexican breakfast. - Yeah, why shouldn't you say this? This is gonna blow-- no, no, no. You gotta put a bath faucet in here. - God damn, Chris, you can't just take Mexican breakfast. - Yeah. - Just want your beans to come up. - Go, go, go, go. There you go. Look at that. - So that wasn't Mexican breakfast, you just watched it? - No, this is it. Look at this. Tell me what you saying this before. - Yo, I love learning something. I never heard a bath. Was it named Bob Falsie? - Bob Falsie. - What would you say this before? Tell me what you saying that before. - Wow. - Tell me what you saying that before. - That's remember the-- - That's some nutcrackers. - Y'all know what that is? - Yeah. - Yeah. - Oh. - Oh, the same thing. - Single ladies, oh my. - Oh, look, watch when they hit this. You gonna hold that. - That's what-- those are women. - No, five fours, fours, fours, y'all. - He choreographed this. - Oh. - I grabbed this whole step. - Uh-oh, uh-oh, uh-oh, uh-oh. - You love it. - No, man. - Great dance, listen. Anybody great as they study greats. You see that? - But see, I never even heard of Bob Falsie. - Yeah. - I'm sure that if I listen now, Michael and Beyonce and all these people haven't mentioned to him, but we just didn't pay no attention to him. - It's a cultural exchange. That's the beauty of America, man. I'm glad that we could contribute. And it keeps that stuff alive. Well, origins of the moonwalk. I don't tell me that he didn't create the moonwalk. He actually didn't, uh, a screen dance that did, right? - No, Bill Belly. - They used to call it something else though. Who was Bill Belly? - The man, y'all got to know greatness is because you observed greatness. - Yeah. So who's Diddy Observer? Who did Diddy Observer? Where did Diddy get-- - Did he get massages in prison? - So you wouldn't-- - No, I wouldn't let a man massage me in prison. - Shout out to Bill Belly above. I don't see no moonwalk now. It's just tap dancing, guys. - Coming. How long? - Yo, you learn something new every day, especially on the Burian News. I never knew any of this shit. - Yeah. There you go. And Bill's hitting it too. - That's amazing, that's good. - Let's see, let's see. Let's see, we'll Bill Belly. - Well, it's kind of how he said it up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up. - Amazing, but Mike, another one. - That's all it is, though. That's all it is. You take great stuff, and then you take it to the next level. - Got a reposition, Mike, now? - Yo. - Why? - I'm gonna tell you why, because no, 'cause this is the knock that people say about Chris. And I just had this conversation with John Bukes, with my guy, John Bukes. John Bukes said that Chris is a phenomenal dancer. - Chris Brown, you're saying-- - Yeah, but he gives Mike the edge over Chris, because he says everything he sees from Chris is Mike. - Because you would know better than all of us in this room, Michael Jackson and Chris Brown. - Okay, I'm gonna keep it a beam, Michael. - Thank you. - And I'm gonna tell you why. Chris Brown is so talented in his versatility of dance. He can pop a little bit, crump a little bit, like he can do a little bit, but like Michael made up isms. - Yep, that only Michael does. Like, I can't find a move that I'm like, that's Chris Brown. He could do it though. If you teach him, he'll do it, and he'll do it. Just as good as the dancer, if not better. But Michael has certain moves that everyone knows when you do that kick, and he do that-- - And that's Mike. - So it's just like iconic, it's just certain movements. So I gotta give him the nod, just because he has original moves that is what we would consider, like that's some Michael Jackson. - Oh, that's not even true. - I mean, it kinda is, well, put it like this. Not even just Chris. Most people you see dance nowadays, you'll be like, "Okay, I've seen that before," and Mike. We thought we were seeing, I at least thought until just now, I was seeing a lot of original stuff from Michael Jackson. - The whole Jordan thing, where you look at Kobe, you're like, I see him doing Jordan, and we look at Jordan, it's so singular, we've never seen anybody do it. - But is Michael Jackson Jordan? - He's one Jordan shit. - Humans, this whole thing of greatness is just an exchange. You learn from watching other great people. - I agree. - The best people are, they study, right? Like, like, God, God is a great, he studied everybody. We was on tour with Tag9, every show at the end, he would just sit at the end and watch Tag9 perform. Every night, he just studied Tag9. Tag9 is probably the greatest performer in hip hop history. - He studied him, yeah, Tag9 is just-- - I never think Tag9 performed that well. - Tag9 is phenomenal, bro. Y'all need to see Tag9. - Tag9 is the same as Lewis? - No, he can catch it. - That's it, he can't catch it. - Tag9 is, like, bust the rhymes, fill me red and mef, be it like, Tag9 like that. Like, Tag9 is probably as good as, like, Beyonce. - Wow. - I'm not putting that in only a minute. Tag9 is phenomenal. - What is the performance? - He has choreographed the way the music dropped. He don't use a backing track. It's everything. Thank you.
If you see him dog, you'll be like, it makes the music make sense. 'Cause you listen to the music, you like, I don't get it. If you watch him perform, all of the music makes sense. He's like one of the best artists on my life. - Technic is one of those people who I respect, and I know everything about him. I just never got into anything. I never listen to this music, never seen it before. - You gotta go to a Technic concert. I would advise both of y'all to really go see him in concert. I don't care where it's at. Go watch him and see like one of the greatest things. - Oh, salute to Technic, who knew? Who are other underrated performers? - You go. - Underrated performer. - Hey, problem? - Problems up, brother. - What's up, man? - Hey, how you doing, man? - All right, in a row, what's going on, brother? - Yeah, I'm fine. - Hey, do some more. - How are you? - How you doing? - I'm good. - All right, what's up, brother? - You can grab a seat right there. - Right here. - All great people, study great people, the greatest people, study great people. You gonna help you with that, Sean? - Yeah, my shit drop. - Oh no. - The greatest people, study great people, right? - No. - Yeah, 100%. But I just thought that Mike-- - Mike made it all. - Yes, I thought Mike was more-- - He got a lot from James Brown. - I knew he got it. I knew he got something, thank you. I knew he got stuff from James Brown. - Jacky Wilson. - Jacky Wilson. - If you look at James Brown, that's Jackie Wilson. - Sammy Davis Jr. to tell the truth. - Yeah, but he did it in a way that we never seen anybody else do it. - Yeah, that's what everybody does. - The distance between him and all of his contemporaries. - You right, I can't, you right. But if we're having the conversation, 'cause the other thing is he put the package together 'cause I don't know Bob, what's his name? - Bob Fawzi. - Got to have the music to go with it. - Also, people don't own choreographer. - He's a dancer, he's not a musician. - He's just choreographer. - Yeah. - But now I'm saying you can't get credit for just, who was the person that's just a great dancer that we give credit to? - Bob Faw? - Fred Astaire. - Fred Astaire. - Ginger Raj. - Fred Astaire. - Fred Dunham Slaps? - Sandra Cameron. - I thought Fred had music. - What's the brother, the brother that, uh-- - Oh, the necklace twins, the brother. - The brother that'd be dancing in the street, he'd be tapping all the time. - Brighory high. - Yeah, not high, 'cause he had enough acting. But the other brother, he's young. - Not me, something. - He's young. - Sandy Young Glover. - Sandy Young Glover, Sandy Young Glover, Sandy Young Glover. - I love fantastic dancing. - Back to show with the public. - That's right, long time. - Yes. - All right, man, let's get to Diddy, man. Go to the Diddy story, yo. - But this is-- - But this is-- - This is-- - Perfect time, problem. - I didn't know this. I'm sure you didn't know this. - We haven't with Diddy. - This is Hollywood Unlock. Diddy's alleged privilege in pampered federal prison lifestyle exposed mogul allegedly have access to a cell phone, alcohol, rim Iran, which is a drug I've never heard before. - Just say what it is, play the clip at the end. - Play the news clip. - Tonight, an inside look at how Sean Combs is living in federal prison. For the first time in footage exclusively obtained by NBC News, Combs is seen using a cell phone, which is prohibited by federal law. This all comes nearly a year after Combs was sentenced to 50 months for prostitution-related offenses. NBC News spoke to four men who spent time with Combs in prison at Fort Dix and New Jersey. They were granted anonymity to speak freely about life inside prison. They described Diddy's privilege life, saying he's paid thousands of dollars a month to other inmates to do chores, like make his bed. Clean his toilet and shower, even give him massages. They also cook him special meals like these, from pizza to onion rings. Those sources say the money flows from people outside prison to the commissary accounts of those inmates performing the services. Multiple sources said Diddy has used contraband cell phones to scroll Instagram, one source pointing NBC News to an Instagram account that Combs uses with no profile picture, that's followed by Combs's publicist. They also say he has access to a modified tablet, which allows him to watch movies and television shows. A source calls Diddy's prison life a party, with regular access to alcohol and remuron, and anti-depressant with mood-boosting effects. The Bureau of Prisons tells NBC News inmates are not permitted to have access to cell phones, and per policy, they do not comment on any incarcerated individual. Adding, like all correctional agencies, contraband particularly cell phones, narcotics and weapons, remains a constant challenge, and we continue to tackle the problem. And tonight, a spokesperson for Combs says the media is characterizing ordinary prison life as news. You woke up when you said you wanted chicken, and now, and now, and now. Oh, Res, y'all got ran. What's up, man? How are you? Y'all got ran. You know, you know, ran for 15. 15. I mean, I see him. How you doing, man? On the joint with y'all. They did the nipple album. They did a bunch of stuff for God. You fight for Jay-Z. He was there. Jay-Z, man. Okay, okay. All the band and all that. But he did all the music for the show. I think I saw you. I didn't. I didn't. It was a couple of times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We don't say nothing. You won't even know him. You're with us. He gonna talk crazy. We. We did an interview with you talking about how I was her mentor and how to meditate. So we. Yeah. Okay, okay, okay. Got you. We was talking about Diddy jerking people chicken. No, we wasn't. I'm getting this chicken jerks. We were talking about that. Diddy was saying he would give me a massage. Yeah. First off. I didn't even ask you to talk about it. I said, all I said. I know what the thought of it. If Diddy said, like, fave my hair, he's going to give me like $1,000. We got to be giving that nigga. Man, I be cutting his ass. He had a cool job, bro. But I'm saying that's all we talk about. People that can cook. People that can clean. If you got to have a problem with any of this. My thing is the massage. What's wrong with the massage? Make it prison. Got him a suicide license. How many? Who played sports in here? Man. So you got rubbed down by a man before. No. Come on, man. I got one time. I got a great female massage. I got one in front of my house every two weeks. Not even a stretch. Yeah, people in the stretch. Do you want the trainer stretching you out? No. Come on. I just haven't. I haven't. You wouldn't let a physical trainer stretch her. Sure. It's not I wouldn't. I haven't. But like in a hypothetical scenario where you're in prison, like you know. You pulled your hamster. No, fuck. No way. I'm out there. We can get to it. I'll just be limp. I'll be limp. I'm just going to be limp. I'm just going to impact his appeal. And the reason is going to impact his appeal. I don't think they've changed your sexuality. I think they lower your inhibitions. Don't came in a lady boy. God, that could happen. That could happen. That could happen. 'Cause you could easily slip up at that point. You could. You could, somebody look good. Shit. I told problem pun in the homies from the community, I said, bro, liquor is called spirits 'cause that shit possessed you. Ooh, you mean possessed by the spirit of Jack Daniels. You be running around this motherfucker? Yeah, but I ain't never let Jack fuck. Like that ain't you. You ain't gonna get that. You ain't gonna get that loose. I ain't getting that loose. But sometimes y'all get so drunk that you don't remember. No. No, no. You might have woke up sore like what's that mean, bro? I ain't gonna ride. Try out the little ride. You know what I was drinking? Little ride said he just was waking up sore. He just didn't know what I was drinking, though. Little ride wasn't just drinking. No, pink cocaine and hideousy. You don't even drink, bro. That's why I don't. Looking on, dude, I don't know about that pink cocaine, but looking on. You got pink in this pink too, so that means you add something. Are you talking about? Damn. Yeah, I don't know. I think you're talking about 2C. It's a drug that will make you get. You know. No, no, no, no. That's a gang. No, that's a gang. No, that one makes you gay. 30 minutes. And then once you do that, there's nothing you could do. That's the reason. Possessed by the spirit of Jack Daniels. Look at AB. But that's a good guy. That's a good guy. But you know what's a lady boy? That's it. What you mean? One of the blue. Look. That's crazy. No, hold on now. Hold on. Yeah. Crazy. Crazy. Yes. The caption. That is a decepticon. Adrian. No, no, no, no. We call it. That's called boys. He's going back. Adrian Brona has the internet in chaos again after a wild, live screen moment showed him repeatedly kissing a transgender woman before appearing stunned when someone told him she was, what? Trans. Yes. Alright. Chris, Matt Brockton. He's in a dark. And they don't want it. It's called him. Oh, no, man. I'm talking to him. It's a dark place. The lights are down in there. No, he's him. They told him. He's still like that. Went over. Oh, after the fact. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Jack. This guy's a progressive, man. See? Salute him. So hold on. He kept going out. He got told. He found out. Look at his face. They told him. See? Oh, I didn't know. What the fuck? Look here. And then the yak, he went back. Chris. No. Oh. No, that's not what happened. Yes. And the yak, he went back. Hold on. Adrian Brown has an internet and cares. Have a wildlife stream. Oh, you showed these transgenders, man. One is. No, I think he was. I think he was sad. He thought he was kissing to the other girl. But then he kissed the decepticon. And then he realized what happened. And he went back. But he didn't know that it was. That she was trans. He just thought he was trying to kiss the other. No, somebody told him that. How do we know that? That's what it says. I mean, it's show. What he did get told something. Yeah. He got told, yo, you kissed the wrong girl. That's not what that man face looked like. That. If I just kissed the wrong girl problem, face it. He didn't like what. That was like somebody told you that was a decepticon. Tricky situation. Love his love, guys. Like a tricky situation. Love his love. I agree. But I just love. I just love. That's why I'm so offended. That. We got admit. That's what I'm saying. Licker, pink cocaine. That's. Puff. What if it allowed you to kiss the other girl? But y'all can't be mad at AB. Why did you say that happens? He wrote a song about it. I'm not mad. What did you say that happened to some of his homies? That's why I stayed sober. What? That's the same scenario. It made a song about it. That I thought was pretty compelling. I thought it was dope too. I like. I like. He's friendin' up, sleeping with a trans woman. It's a really dope record. Oh, let me look. And it was dope, really dope. But what happened was he also imagined that his friend listened actually was kissing the trans woman. And then when he got. I think when he got to the crib, he realized it was the trans woman. Yeah. And then he started fighting. Oh, that's something. Yeah, Tiffany. That's the name of the song. Tiffany. That's unfortunate. That's unfortunate. The crazy part is he got a bar in here. It would be like, do you know how to drive stick girl? That's what he said. Listen to this song. No. There he is. Listen, all jokes aside though, if this world was this progressive as they said it was, this record would be everywhere. Yeah. This would have been a number one record. Yeah, it's a good record. It's a good record. I mean, that's Lola from the kinks back in the 70s. That was one of the biggest records of the decade. What was Lola? Lola. Never heard of that song. It was classic. It was about a young guy getting drunk for the first time meeting a transgender woman. And what year? I'm going to say 73. I don't know what the trans woman looked like. You mean that one. Yeah. They were not for that. Like now you can see some trans folks. Oh, they'll get jammed. They got some crazy surgeries. And also women are getting surgeries to look more trans. Like they're meeting in the middle. Like women are getting so much filler. Sure. And then the surgeries are getting so much better that they're kind of like. Merging. They're emerging. Yeah. If sisters is getting like lip fillers and stuff like that. Shaw, the face. You see those like that. So then it puts it close. Everything's fake. Those look like they're facing pull back. That's it. Luckily. Yeah. I can't rock with that. You want to feel girls emotions. A female, yeah. Yeah. I can't. A female, yeah. I can't. I can't. I can't. A female, yeah. A female, yeah. delivers fresh chef-crafted dietitian-approved meals right to your door. It's making it easy to eat well and save time on my busy days. Each meal is perfectly portioned for lunch, a dinner, and ready in just two minutes. 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But I do want to see, I don't want to know what a sober puff thinks like that. I feel like I'm saying he probably hadn't been sober since he was 17. But that's what's disappointing about this story because it's talking about the fact he's still on, he's still getting some type of drug in, reminisce something like that. He's still drinking Hennessy. It's like, you know, you're not even trying to rehabilitate it. He doesn't want to, he doesn't want to blame it on. A lot of people don't want to blame stuff on drugs and alcohol. That brings out this other person and I think Diddy is one of those people. Because that's, to me, the first goal should be drying out from him. Absolutely. But if he dries out, then he got to deal with all the trauma he'd been running from. That's good this time. Yeah, because that's, I agree, but that's all this shit, all of this shit just sounds like an escape. All of the sex, rubbing, nut on your nipples, all the trouble. What you see this shit is when he went and kicked, Kid Cuddy needs to fight him still. Like he opened up Kid Cuddy Will, he opened the Christmas gifts and Kid Cuddy house and left the gifts open and then did something to Kid Cuddy Dog. Allegedly. They say the dog still don't talk to this day. They don't look, they don't even bark. Kid Cuddy's house opened up the Christmas gifts, opened up gifts. Crazy. Which was like, that is like one of the most diabolicals, scariest things in the world. And then whatever he did to his dog because he liked, they said he liked the dog in the bathroom. When Cuddy got there, the dog was just like petrified and ain't been racing. Allegedly. Oh, it's day. Everybody injured. They was who? I mean, pre-puff. That footage would have been everywhere if this thing was in there opening gifts. I know you guys got it man. That's my puppy name written all of them. I wanted to ask y'all because all of y'all from the West Coast, right? How did it feel realizing that Diddy was who they told us Shug was all these years? I still don't believe it. I need to fight this city. You want to fight. Bro, because I need just like you didn't fool me all this time. Had me thinking you was a good guy. And you are here. We should have thought. No, you never thought he was a good guy. Yes, I did. They made this label is bad boy. Gee. That bad boy. Did he always, did he's never been like a one? He's never been a Will Smith. He always had that straight to him. I thought he was always Will Smith. Will Smith got straight to him. Nah. Diddy always showed you. I like if Will Smith and Diddy fought, I got will. But we always like, we've heard the story that Diddy going upside head with bottles. We never heard of. Yeah, but that's because you got money. But like, there was one story where he popped to do that the studio and told the dude don't say nothing. And he shot the dude and that was just it. I don't look bad about that. I don't think he's ever heard about that story. Me and Diddy need to talk. Because if you don't like that bro, I did not- See, I did the bomb puff experience. I still be hanging in here.
A1, I can't even lie to you. - You used to write for 'em, right? - I've written records with 'em, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm talking about like when I met him, it was mentorship and always just giving game and telling me what not to do and shit like that. I didn't, what do you say with that? - See? - Like, I asked him, I'm like man, how the fuck you got all these baby mommas and these kids and everybody's cold 'cause I have a similar situation. He's like, "Hey man, Kim, look at me in my face." He's like, "You need to make a lot of money." (laughing) And then it was like just different ventures and just said if I was sent a tommy would give me game on it. Like, yeah, do this, charge more for that. This is in that. I do know that, you know, I watch the grown-ass me and though, like, gay out for the homie. Yeah, I'm saying like, so you need to pick, okay. - So like they know, they'll see 'em walking, or you'll be me talking to somebody like, "Yeah, man, this is in that." They puffed and walk in the room and they'll be looking at this while they're talking to you. Like, "Yeah, man." And then they start like drifting towards the machine. It's the weirdest shit you ever wanna see. So I don't think he ever had the force and nobody. (laughing) But that's my point. - I don't believe it or I just didn't know. For the freaky shit that you went to, if you like live porn, do you, I'm gonna say it, but I don't, I don't know, bro, I just didn't get that experience, but my experience with shug was not horrible either. - Yeah, shug was great to me. - What was your experience with shug? - I saved my life one night. - No, that was awesome. - Yeah, one night I tried, I thought I was wanting to fight this group of people 'cause I was upset about some bullshit. And right when they was all about to give me, he like grabbed me. Walking to the side, he said, "No, no, no, no, no, no." I fucked it up for you guys to, I fucked it up for y'all. Don't do that, don't do that. They gonna kill you in here, they'll do it, they'll do it. I'm mad. - Shug, man, shug. - I didn't know it was him, so I turned around. I'm like, nigga, you all, all niggas telling me not to do nothing. He like, that's my point. - Shug, shug, shug, shug, shug, shug, shug. - Go down the street, man. Don't fuck up the play, you got something going. - Oh, oh, when he said, I fucked it up for you, he was like, the way I did business, we fucked it up for you guys. - Appreciate it. - Shug was always cool when I met him too, right? - But Puff was Puff. - Puff too, I mean, Puff had, me and Puff had ups and downs. - But you, he's talking crazy. - What did you say to the ones about, what did you say? - What did you say? - That's why I'm consistent. Even now, like, the Lawrence said that to me today, what you gonna do when Puff come out and you've been making all these jokes? I was making jokes and he was outside. - But what's wrong with him? - He mad that you're making jokes. - Well, the one time when last train, the Paris came out and I gave him donkey of the day, because I was just like, yo, this is shake weight music. And I was just like, and he did not like that shit. And he came to the station, came to the station, he wanted me fired that day, they made me go out the back door, so I didn't run into him. Yeah, that was crazy. - Well, this is when his TV network was broadcasting, you guys. - Nice and affordable. - Oh, this all of that came after was all of that came. - Yeah, one time he stopped the whole IHR radio music festival. He was like, yo, I'm not going on stage, I'm not doing nothing until I talk to Charlemagne. Nothing, so he had all of the white people going crazy, and then we went into this side room and spoke, and it was interesting, because he was talking to me. So it's like, this is me looking at him, but he was like this with shades on, looking that way. And I'm like, puff, we gonna talk, you gotta take your shades off and look me in the eye, let's have a conversation. And he was like, yo, man, you, man, you gotta get on the same page, man. We gotta get on the same page. And I said, I said, puff, I'm always, you know, have my opinion about things, whatever, whatever, and he goes, I'm cool with the opinion, man, but you'll just be stepping on things at the wrong time. Give me stepping on things at the wrong time. At least when my album comes out, you gotta give me at least a week. Give me at least a week before you start critiquing it so I can get my numbers blah, blah, blah. And then he goes, yo, I'm going to boat. You should have been with him. You should have been giving me massage. You know what I mean, I want to get on the boat, I want to get on the boat, I like boats and what he said, he was like, all right, man, but let's just get on the same page. I'm gonna be honest with you, the puff is always, like cool, like when it's not, when it's not contentious, he's always just being cool. He did right by him and that mean the world to me, that's cool, like I read about this person that they're talking about, I would love to run into that person. Well, you talk to someone, you always do this person, you know, capacity, when do you, when do we always say that she's always known as who he was? I would love to meet that puff. We would be cool. I never even fuck a puff, because I'm like, man, it's nigga. What's puff now? I need to meet the real puff. Well, what's puff? That's opened up Christmas gifts and people out there, but that footage would have been everywhere. They didn't know what it is. I don't believe it. It was in somebody's house, though. It was in the nigga's house. Electrically. Everybody's house has cameras. My kid, cut this. Talk this. What? Did you say that? I would love to hang out with that puff, man, that puff, that's open, that puff that's popping people in studios, we can hang. It's the puff funniest shit, man. One time we can do stuff, man, he lost the best friend. He's been out there the whole time. You know that Bishop TDJ's birthday party, right? And puff. Puffin. Puffin. This was the same wing that he did that interview with Carisha. And I saw puff give a pound. I said, "Mr. Agbat." I said, "You Agbat?" No, no, he came with me. He goes, he goes, "The sexiest man alive." And I go, "Mr. Agbat." I said, "If you act as bad as a knight," he took a shade and said, "Oh, I'm acting real bad." My wife, my wife goes, "Y'all think I should have done this to say this to him?" I was going to say that, man, get the fuck out of here. I won't puff to come home and rehabilitate, man. I don't know. Just give us, show us something different, land a plane, a different way, man. You think he goes religious? That's my prediction. He becomes a preacher or some sort. He always had to religious in him, though. Like, he was already leaning into that. That way you can wipe the slate clean, right? Forgiveness. Right. I mean, I'm not God. I'm not judging him. You know, I'm not the one that can grant me. I just hope he dries out so he can deal with whatever is going on with him. If that's the truth, if all of these things is making him behave that way, I like him to dry out. At least do this, gangsta shit, like sober. Right. That's g- shit. That's g- shit. Oh, listen, I know. I know. That's g- shit. You don't believe nobody's a gangster if they got to get high and drunk or do whatever. Hey, no, no, no. There's no argument to that. You got to do a sober, bro. Yeah, because if you're getting high or drunk, it's not who you actually are. Right? You need to get yourself excited to do it or you need to block those emotions. It's not who you, the true sources. That's an interesting take. Yeah, I feel, man, I should open in somebody Christmas presents in a house. That's hard. That's crazy. That is. I would have never thought in that good. Yeah, that's good. Bro, you, like, you got to rob nobody at Christmas, gee? No, but I'm saying that you don't even have to rob nobody. Imagine you just walking your house and all the presents just open up. That is frightening. Now you're blaming your kids. Yeah, he's like, I didn't open him. Now you started a whole familial fight. Now he doesn't have cameras. He's getting dirty. There's no cameras in this whole house. How are you, man? He's sick. He dropped the cocktail and I believe he did that because if you was knocking my brother down, I didn't tell you to drop the what? A cocktail and kid cutting car in the roof of it. He cut the top. They cut a hole in the top of the convertible and dropped the molotov in there. I like that. That's gangster. So listen, as a writer, right? Because you write, you write music, you write scripts now. You wouldn't have never thought of other kids, but he inspired me. That's a hard thing to write into a script. Like, you walked in and opened up the Christmas gifts. You wouldn't even believe it if you saw it in TV show. Nobody knows that Christmas. That's like the grants. Yeah, it is the grants. Like, wow. You know, people, I saw people say that they like to drop, but they feel like it's an overexaggerated version of what LA was in that era. No, it's pretty good. It's pretty dead off. Pretty accurate. Let's put on, can we give some context around the drop and you're rolling it? Let's set the stage a little bit. Okay. So problem, right? He wrote all the records. He's a consultant. He acted in episode three and another episode, but he wrote all the raps. Like, it has a musical element. Rats, executive, produce all the music, made all the music that you hear for the show as far as all the records go. I got a chance to consult right and act in it as well. And it's the sequel to Snowfall. So it's not a sequel. It's a spin off. It's a snowfall saga. So it's in the universe. It takes the drug dealers, you know, the, as Spellman says, the the atomic bomb that was the crack epidemic here is the thing birthed out of it to explain and narrate what's happening, which became West Coast hip hop. So it was a, all the deboys to start taking a money trying to get into the record business and change their life. And Wanda is one of the biggest proponents of trying to change her past by succeeding in a music business. What years? What year is it? 1990, 1991. So you're 46. So you guys were, you guys remember this. Yeah. You were.
I were a little young we were but that's before the rising even death row. Yeah. Yeah. So what's I write up in the W.A. right on the cusp. This is a quick ice cube ice tea ice tea is full blown. Cuba's out here. That's you land was popping around it. Okay. Okay. Okay. I was playing a lot of it. What about Egyptian lover? Was he still big in L.A. Or was he fading by that? Well, his song was a classic record. You hear everything. All right. Not cube though. Cube was huge. Cube was huge. Hey 90. What? He had dropped kill that wheel. Yeah. America's most depth. That's what you're dropping 91. Yeah. And he's he's a year away right around doing boys and hood. Remember boys and hood is how snowfall ends up. So they're shooting boys and hood on the last episode of the snowfall. Yeah. That's what year's boys in the hood. 91 91 or 91. Oh, wow. 91. Menace was 93. 93. Yes. 91. Okay. Oh, well, I feel like L.A. got stuck in that air. No. What do you mean by that? Like people, those depictions of L.A. were so strong. Nobody can ever think of L.A. as anything else. That's interesting. I mean, I think hip hop as a whole is a time period piece. You know, I mean, like who wants to see a New York MC without Timberlake? I don't really want to see that. You know, I mean, like, yeah. It's just how we like our hip hop. I like my New Orleans artists and jibos and or or camouflage or. I really feel like it's an old. The hip hop. So we remember that time really well. Like what's better than 90 like we want. We almost feel like nothing is better than a 90. Yeah, I don't think we still. I just feel like the rest of the world. Remember something in this thing. They constantly conscious and it was just so infectious. Like you watch that time. Kind of still like we better time is still dominates pop cultures. Like gangs move this way. Red blue rags move this way. The. Let's go to what we've been talking about. Like you don't get an herb. Guilty and the same. That's not these people are easy. That's a fact. You know, it's a fact. It doesn't do what he does. So it's really that story. You know what I'm saying? It's about guy when they know these people that are not supposed to be together and putting them in one room. It's bigger than Bush. Let's go get the money. And I feel like that's what this story is. And I feel like that's what the West Coast brand is. We look at the square shirts. We look at the six phones. And because that's so like polarizing. It's like all right. We just want y'all. Yeah. When the actuality. I mean, we've got you know, I'm not pulling up in those fuckers. You didn't pop bottles and did all types. So y'all like that. Because when any time we try to not be in that brand. Never succeed. Which works well for me. Right. Like that. I'm good with fulfilling expectations. I remember what G had you had the Bentley. I want to say purple wasn't blue. Blue. Yeah. Blue Bentley. Yeah. Seven of us in that damn. Come on. I come on. Lie down. This is crazy. Park it on the front line. You said something does not problem. That made me think though. Like the discreet politics keep L.A. from being as big as it needed to be. What I mean by that is. Imagine if easy and shook would have been together. As opposed to it being being an issue. But the competition made it even bigger. Made it even bigger because it made it make easy. Go get ball. Oh. Yeah. You got the birth of the hill pop like this. And will I will. I am. Yeah. And all these people that became pretty, pretty, pretty. Competition. Who got will I am? Easy. He was all ruthless for. Yeah. Easy to discover what I am. Mm-hmm. As a producer and artist. Oh. Early early. Easy had that ear, man. He knew some shit. I mean, he picked Cuban. I mean, he knew today. Yeah. Very underrated. Very underrated in the way this whole thing is even. If we don't see easy. I'm telling you. It just doesn't. It doesn't. Black man. Don't get to say. Oh, wait. I can do that too. Mm-hmm. It's not after two short knowledge. Two short fires. Two short 40 to Bay really began it. But I'm talking about when I say. I'm like globally. Mm-hmm. Easy. NWA impacted globally. Yeah. And it spawned off superstars. Megastars that we still listen to today. When you say that they came together and left all the bullshit. Were you saying that they were like rival dudes or gangs or neighborhoods that said, "Hey, let's put away politics for a second and let's make money?" Exactly. That's what that was. That's what that was represented. Who was real? But who was beefing that death row at the time? And who came? There's all bloods and crypts. All the artists and crypts. The guy, sugar's a blood, his power rule. This doesn't make this doesn't happen. So who sets it? Who sets everyone down? Sure. So he makes a call to another big guy. And this is like, "No, no, no, no, no. Set the table for me." Because this is business, right? Business is like, "Hey, here's this guy. Dr. Dre Warren G's trying to give. Here's Snoop Warren G's like, "Hey, man. Big bro, you need to deal with this guy. This guy's going to be the one. I'm not sure, man. I'm not sure. I'm telling you, man. Okay. You not listening. Play his tape at Dr. Dre's party boom. The party rocking everybody like, "Damn, what was this guy? Okay. Maybe this guy got it." I got some Dre takes Snoop. They make some music, present it to sure. So they're like, "Okay, for sure. Cool. But you have to ignore the first that Snoop dollars of crypt. And he's a power, even though they're not from particularly rival neighborhoods. But it's a natural competition. So now with Snoop comes in. Here's Dad. Here's Corrupt. They're a crypt. But did Snoop have to talk to some people in his neighborhood and be like, "Yo, I'm not sure you're this guy." I mean, we would notice guys in 1918, 19, 19, 20 years old at the time. They could say, "They weigh in. It happens a bunch of, it's a bunch of weigh in. That's a lot of money. That's a lot of things. That's another thing we never talked about. That's a fact. That whole era what even 5, 5 is his 5, but 20, 24, it was like 28. Snoop is 22, 23. It's a little kid. Maybe 28. Make a $2, 300 million a year. Oh, yeah. What? Oh, yeah, at the time. Yeah. When they cracked it. Correct. I mean, shit. We don't have this TV show if he didn't make 200,000. 200 million a year. That's a lot of different roles. And that's off. That's physical. That's not streaming. That's not clipping millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of. You know, today's money, we're talking about. That's half a billion dollars. Yeah, Jim is good. You see with Jimmy. You see what they're doing in a scope. You see what Jimmy is. I salute the Warren G too. I call Warren G a anchor being. You know, the time is if this is the comic book world, Warren G would be a anchor being. They'd be so much that didn't happen if it wasn't for Warren G. He's an West Coast. Would you say that's him? I'm going to say he's in West Coast. Being a player, we're always good, man. We are. I read the script right here. It was just like, yeah, dub. She doesn't want to get a spot. Oh, that's beautiful for me far. Well, yeah, Warren G on Bepers Code last year. And I told him that I'm like, yo, you if it wasn't for you, we possibly wouldn't have had the rise of West Coast in pop the way we had it. And the rise of East Coast in pop because he's he saved that shit. Hey, Dev Jam time to get saved Dev Jam. Oh, save Dev Jam. Got Dev Jam over to get DMX. Yeah, mm-hmm women. He was the one that got them assigned DMX. No, they were going to go on. They didn't go under they didn't go under the end of the regulator. No, it's number one. See you later. Remember, no, Professor soundtrack. So so that blew off of that song. So so remember, get the fuck out of here. Remember, the soundtrack is the basketball move. A bud around. Oh, but the rest of you are, but on all West Coast. That's right. Yeah, single is regular. Mm-hmm. They sign him based off regularly. So they're they're both kind of have incentives to work regularly. Regulate becomes obviously probably possibly one of the biggest hip hop songs ever. And Dev Jam sizing puts out an album album does three, four million. So now you get a chance to sign as upstart artists that came under came from Brooklyn named Jay Z. You get to sign this guy from right. You get extra incentive things can happen now. You get DMX. Was this at a time where if you had one album that popped like that, that felt that satisfied the entire special one. I mean, because it's physical. You got a thing like this is like you get you getting six ten bucks six seven dollars a record after you make your money on the span. Wow. Double back had to single this DJ, like he killed so you you said three, four million albums guess what now we can go get this guy from Brooklyn that's going to carry in the torch for years and DMX. We get this other guy. It bound them over to get the next great artist. Another thing that Jam did that was good. They signed a bunch of subsidiaries. Like I always feel like that's what you should do when you're a major label like that. Just go get the subsidiaries. Let rough riders be rough riders that Rockefeller be Rockefeller. You know the me let murder ain't be murder ain't. So they didn't roll them up. They allowed them to operate independently, but they own pieces of them. So they were the ones. They were company. Yeah, met the man and up comes out and does really well. Right at that time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Red man to right. But red man was before war. But I'm saying like the best red thing happy. After that. So what you doing with this new mood. That's good man. I'm glad with the hit war and you getting this flowers. Well, are you playing a character? We would know like a story character. Not a story. Well, it will be his story. It's a character named Jason London. Um, he was with the man that the whole murder was the case thing was built around my character. Oh, it's the one that removes the gun. Make it look like it was a murder instead of a self-defense. So this is a real person in history that you're playing. Yeah, it's about. Yeah, smooth biopic. Yeah. That's the other beautiful thing about the 90s. Boy, they're gonna be making money off that that era.
(laughing) - It's free fighter. Not to help with, it was a plug, but like the 90, even the kids now the way that they dress is so inspired by the 90s. Like there's this weird pendulum swing the Stauja play that's happening. Well, maybe they're realizing it. Maybe it's fun to do it, but. - No, I think this was the time for people to take advantage of the time before social media. Like now you can just throw up all this shit and make it whatever you wanna do. Because everything now from after like 2000. - Can't lie about it. - You know, it's actually already here. - This is like when we go back and look at history and you try to tell me what happened in like the Roman Empire, it's like, bro, you know, fuck would you know? You wouldn't lie. - You know why? - Bro, you know what I mean? - I mean, he opened the Christmas press. - He opened the Christmas press. - You're a f**k. - Every story is the open Christmas. - Exactly. But now we got this. - I'm like that. - And your story back in that time is, bro. - You open the Christmas. - You got it. I mean, we have to assume, right? If we're writing the history of your country in success, you're gonna embellish the fuck out of everything. Every war you won it in the most valiant, factored, like every beef you handle the most masterful way. - Yeah. - Yeah. - 'Cause after that, at a certain time, somebody would just be like, no, you didn't hit the whole video, you didn't beat up, didn't it? - That's the right one, bro. - But then that might be like, but now that you can't trust that, 'cause the AI. - So that might help. - That's the new thing, but we got before-- - Oh, right. - Now you find it debunked. - You see what I'm saying? - Yeah. - Let's do it. - Listen, Savannah James. Makes her best friend fly coach, guys. Did y'all see this story? - Is that a story? - Play press play. This is, I mean, by the way, she wasn't flying coach. She was flying business class, but this is a good story. - Yeah, my friends are very respectful of my situation. - Yeah, okay. - You know, if I'm like, we're going somewhere, they already understand what it is. There's no expectation of like taking care of something or, you know, just having me be responsible for them. It has never ever been that. There's two different lifestyles that exist. We're not delusional to that. Even if we're going on the same trip, I don't feel the need to be in first because that's not in my budget. And people were very critical of her being in first and me being in business and me going up to first and getting in her bed and watching a movie. They was like, offended. - First of all, go ahead. First, the business is the same shit. If it goes flat, who cares? (laughing) Like you either go on flat or not. - It's a bit weird. - Well, I actually really respect that. She's trying to be like, I assume she's trying to be like, I'm not friends because the cushy shit. I'm already going to get so much cushy shit. I can pay for myself. Let me prove to my friend that I don't need her financially. I just want to be around this person I care about. - Yeah, and I think that there's one thing that people are missing about this story, right? So they said, this was based off a trip to Japan. So Savannah was like, yo, let's go to Japan. The thing that they're not talking about is Savannah probably had a big ass house that they always stand in when they got in Japan. - She's thinking, shit, don't I'm saying. They probably had a chef's and everything else. It is like, yo, get your ticket. Meet us in Japan. Pro, deal now. - If her partner bought her on ticket, I can respect it. That's different. Now, if Savannah bought her a ticket and then bought her a business class, I'd be living crazy. But I ain't nothing wrong with that. - Why would you, why? - Well, I'm just saying, that is a bit odd. We finna go somewhere and I'll buy you a business class. I'll buy me a first class. - I'm glad I'm going. - No, no, right? But it's not about you, it's about me at that point. - Yeah. - No, no, no, no, no. You gotta understand, man, that's a big price difference. - I know. - And I get it. LeBron comes off as very frugal. So I would assume his wife plays in that space as well. LeBron wouldn't even go to Turkey to get the headline, bro. (laughs) - You see what I'm saying? And he was doing the air pieces. Ball, he wouldn't even go to Turkey to get the airs. - Yeah, that's him, bro. - Man, and then, as I was saying, - Makes her bet probably worth 40 years. - 40 years old. There's probably more than a friend like girl, you do so much, I got it. - That's what I'm saying, man. - So the true hero is an hog girl. She's a player. - Me too, that's what I'm saying. - I think that's what everybody mad at Savannah, like she's supposed to just, oh, your friend should be in first class too. I'm like, what? - Charlotte, how many times did you have a villa, whatever? And then people got to get there. - That's my point. - Once they're there, you get to stay in the villa, and you're going to cut most of the things. It's like, it's almost disrespectful to ask for the flight as well. - Right. - You're already going to be so generous to the people. - All right. You're going to make them pay for the flight too. - That's it, that's what I'm saying. As I said, the guaranteed it was out the country. Savannah had a big ass house, all of them was staying in it, all they had to do was get there. - No, that's it. - They got people no food, and they probably got to chef it in. - And then you walked up to the first class and lay it in the bed with her and watched the movie. - I think that's what they're saying people got upset about, that she's riding first class with paying for ticket. - Hey, I don't really think it is. Savannah's not even on a private plane, she'll tell you how full it is. - Yeah. - It's two other things. - By the way, that's not a frugal, man. That ticket probably cost like 20 grand, probably. - What? - The flight is Japan first class? - The flight to England, I remember I told you I'm going to that flight. First class to England is 10,000. - Probably. - It is probably more. - Going to Japan, you're looking at 10 grand an hour on like a big boy jet like they're doing. - Yeah. - More than it's like, it's not worth it to fly private. - You're talking about Half of the Bronze Game Check. - Yeah. - I got a thing. Like trust me. - This one, that's the real goal in there that she's. - This one, you realize people just not, me and Charlemagne have been arguing about this, probably the length of our friendship. People is not as rich as you think. My father's got to really be smart with their money. And I'm not mad at him. It's not up to the whole world for being a player on this, as rich as you think. - No. - Yeah, wrong guy. - No. - Other people know how rich do we think he is though? - Rich enough to wear a private jet, wouldn't matter. - No. - No, that private jet cost like a mother fucker. That's shit. - That's shit matter. - Yeah, that's shit matter. - Now Elon Musk, that shit don't matter. - Elon Musk, that shit. - I got a pun that I didn't have. - Never, he's never flown domestic. - Domestic? - Like he's never flown, he's only been private. - Oh. - Oh. - Who is he? - DeMarie Rosal. - Oh, he bugged. DeMarie is wild. - Never. - Why? - He's flown pride. - He's flown regular. - Never. - To college. - Never. - He, and he pays for himself? - Yeah. - Nah, he wild. That's an expense you just don't need. - He's just, he, in his mind. Like his mind at the comfort level. He's one of the people that I don't need. - He is, six foot eight. - He don't like, he's like, he's just like the hoop. His thing is not like, let's be around everybody. Let's do this, let's do that. - Look at this, this motherfucker making. - But, I mean, he's, you know what? If you six foot eight, I get it. I ain't going to even lie. - I just tried to convince him to do it the other day. - Like I flew first class, come here, and I'm six three. That shit is not comfortable. - Oh, what playing, what are you doing? - On JetBlue. - Oh, I love JetBlue. - Me too, but on God. - But I'm so tall, I could imagine his tall last trying to fit first class. That's fucked up. You need to fly private. I ain't going to lie. I get why to ask. I'm going to step away from this. - That shit cost too much money. I remember years ago, just had to be like 13, 14 years ago. I remember Mellow asked me one time, yo, can this, can such a, such a such rapper making money like that? 'Cause I always see him on private shows. He's like, I got a hundred million dollar contract and I don't fly private like that. And that's, that's, that put things in perspective for me. Like, oh yeah, if Mellow ain't doing it like that. - No, no. - And I know this other rapper can't afford to be. - Oh, if you, I'm not mad. Look, I get shout out to Mellow and everybody else. Like if, if you are saving your money, I'm not fucking, but I get why somebody six, six, six, seven, six, eight, six, nine is going to fly. It is different. You are big as hell for them to see. - Look at this shit, man. A private jet charter from JFK to LAX. Typically called between 35 and 95 grams. - One way. - One way, one way. - Yeah. - That's a mid-sized jet. - I got to have super mid-sized jet. - You know what I mean? They got people that'll share just too. Like, just pay for the gas. It's a lot of that happening to too. 'Cause that's what we're not flying every day on them. - All these people that own a jet, what they do is they charter it out. - Right. - So it's like, let's say you've made, you got a hundred million or two hundred million dollars a year. First of all, you just got that cash you're making like ridiculous amount just every year of the bank. I don't want to blow it on private jets. - I know, but what they do is they own a jet. And then jets got this weird thing where like, you get to write off the depreciation and jets depreciate a hundred percent. There's some like weird tax loophole. So you basically get to buy it, write it off, and then you rent it out to other people when you're not using it. So they find ways to basically fly for a reasonably affordable amount. But you still got to have the money to put it up for a fucking $50 million plane or whatever they are. Like, it's a different world. - But even if you think about all the jets stuff, most people don't own those jets. Like, when we talk about certain rappers on the jets, then people don't own them jets. - Yeah. - Somebody to be like, just pay for the jet fuel you can use it. - Or company, a company is saying, "Hey, we're sponsoring you with a jet, net jets." - This is a thing. - Yeah, like, no, he don't own this plane. - You're saying net jets? - They got like an Uber for jets, basically. - No, he don't own this plane. - Like jet suites, like how they got that. - Jet-sweet ex is like-- - That's a big responsibility. - I wouldn't even want that shit. - Why, what is wrong with regular planes? What's wrong with commercial flights? - It doesn't make any sense. - I love a commercial flight. I feel safe on a commercial flight. - Now I say, at least all of us gonna die. - Okay. - All right. - I ain't going there, I'm going down with all of y'all. - Why you want more people to die? - This thing. - And we go, "Go, we going together." - Yeah. - Like, "You ever die, you want to die by yourself?" - I don't know. - You want to die? - You want to die? - If we die together, it's better. - You do hear about more PJs crashing than anything else. - Hey, dude. - Put me on a nice commercial flight. - Richie Valens. - We've been in class, first class. I'm cool. - PJ. - To Tel Aviv. - Oh, no, man. - Don't be. - Don't be. - That's just happening. Is somebody just trying to hijack a plane? - Yeah, I'm just trying to hijack a plane. - I'm just trying to hijack a plane. - I'll take my chassis off. Yeah, that's-- - We could fight. - Yo, he got into the car. - Yeah.
- Talked me with a knife. - No, it was co-pilot. It was flying. - It was the co-pilot attacked the Israeli pilot and then the passengers overpowered the co-pilot, took him down, doctors saved the life of the pilot and then there happened to be two other pilots on the flight and they left at the plane. - So hold on, the pilot was-- - The pilot wasn't Israeli. He wasn't, he was from a, I forget which Gulf country. - Oh my. - Oh my, he's flying with the Israeli pilot. Halfway through the flight, he bought out a knife, started stabbing the Israeli pilot. The plane drops 15,000 feet in 30 seconds. Something happened. - Why did you stab him? - 'Cause it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's down to play. - They want, you want to do a little uh-- - No, man. - Yeah. - He. - Crips and blood. - Yeah. - Guy. - Damn. - So we were talking about this earlier. If you were on a plane that got hijacked, this is hypothetical. - Why are we talking about this? - Do you wish to explain everybody dying? - Night on my hijack. - Which, which nationality would you want to be the dominant passengers on the plane? - Rifle. - Over Israelis? - Yeah, Rifle. - My co-Israeli. - You know what he's doing, so of course he's going to hurt you. - Not just that I'm doing. Tony Broder, they all have to serve in the army. So everybody on there has some sort of military experience. - So imagine if you seen seven Israeli men walking down the street. - Right. - You see seven brothers walking down the street. - Right. - One of them look like more of a low. - Now, I think that Israeli guys probably is a little technical, but if you see seven brothers, you know you not feeling to get away with nothing. - But the Israeli guys, they've all served together, organization, quick decisions. - I think I'm going to have to go to IDF training. - Yeah, man. - I'm taking my chance at the game. - I'm going to have to go. - My CPT's right. - I'm going to take the game from you. - You'll take the game members. - I'm not even thinking. - I'll have to do Israeli food. - I'm thinking. - Why not a mixture of both? - Why can't we work together, guys? - Jerry Helen needs to eat. - Come on. - Cause that means we're going to get too off the plane. - We're going to be the first people to get too off the plane. - No. - And we're like, we're going to give you them. - But stopping the terrorists is one thing. Then somebody needs to fly the plane. - Now that's why I think I would like to have it, right? Cause I'm sure all of them are fuckers not in the squad. - Oh my god. - Well, all of them are fuckers. - It's none of us know how to fly. - But at least you guys are not taking the plane. - You guys will take out the terrorists, but you're still going to end up in the water. - By the way, you've got to protect the pilot at all costs. - Yeah. - I got one if he's down. - Whether you Israeli CPT, you got to protect the pilot. The pilot got to be protected. - And then you need a doctor if the pilot's bleeding out. - Dang. - The whole life is going by itself. - I think we're going to Israeli when you look at all the facts. - Yeah. - But you know what I was thinking about. - Agent. - I'm what you're going to do now. - I'm probably doing what you're doing. - No, Agent's the worst. I've been on a plane all Asian crew, all Asian passenger. Wasn't a disaster, but it was a problem. - What? - We got, there was a crazy snow storm in New York. This is like 10, 15 years ago. We flew 17 hours from Taiwan. - Yeah. - The plane landed. There was a strike at JFK. We were on the runway for another 15 hours. - Holy shit. - I got a little kids. The plane ran out of water. And I was trying to get all the, I told everyone on board, hey, the only way we're getting off this plane is that they think we're going to take over the plane if they think we're going to storm the bomb. - You started a coup. - I tried. - What was that? - Not a coup. - Not a single person. - Chris, what's up? - That's what's up. - They were like. There was a black eye on it. He was like, you got to do it. And he was like. - I fucking bet. - You didn't do it. - He was like, I can't do it. - I can't do it. - They're not going to do it. - No. - You're the guy. - But why would you want the plane to take off in bad weather? - No, I just wanted to get off the plane. - No, they didn't. - Oh, okay, okay. - We're on the runway after a 17 hour flight for another 15 hours. There's no food. There's no water. People crying. There's no air on there. - Got 'em. - Let us off this fucking day. People just sat there, stare straight ahead, they were fine. It was me, a black eye on the Vietnamese guy, you know what I'm trying to like. - A Jewish man, a black man, Vietnamese. - That's it. - But it's a lot like you need to grow. - It's just the three of them. - That's the black man, white man. - Pretty much. - Everybody else is like. They're not going to let me in a country if we start. - Cool. - And then those guys pointed at me and they're like, you're the one who's got a-- - Yeah, you're the white guy. - You got it. - Did you lead the charge? - I started talking to a good game and then one of the flight attendants overheard me. Like, let's just open the door and try to jump off. It's not going to be that big of a fall. He was like, that's a federal offense. I'm just like, you know, you're going to go to jail for 10 years if you do that. You know, he started running down all the shit that would happen. - You sat the fuck down. - I sat there. - As you see it. - God, that was me. Fuck it. - You jumping down? - What? I'm not sitting on this shit. Fucking what y'all need people, man. - Like. - You're also probably like half a mile away from the gate, you know. So you would've had to get across. - You might break your leg, jumping off my freaking leg. - That's why I was the other guy to go first. - Hey, listen, shout out to the Muslim zone. I'm going to tell you why. I was driving in this morning shit and I saw, shout out Diddy, man. - No, no, I saw a guy, he was on his knees behind his Yukon. He had his jacket off. He had his shoes off. And I'm like, yo, I thought something was wrong, and of course, his friend, it was five somethings morning. I'm like, it was actually like, five, 50 ground at time. And I was thinking to myself, like, you don't ever want it with somebody like you. - That's why my fuck is tripping. - What? - Because they believe in a higher power to be in the middle of the street in New York City and pray at five, 50 in the morning, shoes off behind your truck. That's a different level of faith, that's a different level of faith. - What about that shit? - The white guy stuff. - White guy stuff. - Let's take over the plane. - Hasn't it? - No. - Hard of that. - Has it hit him, bro? - Oh, that's hard to say. - They were on the plane landed for 10 minutes at Chris' like, I think we've got to take it over. - That's it. - And you know what happened with Chris? - That's in our soul. - What is it? - The thought of Jill. He's like, no. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - That's the only thing to calm the audaciousness of whites. - It's Jill. - Yeah, they really got-- - They really got-- - White men are getting on Jill. - Jill, the 50-foot truck. - The white people. - Not Chris and him, the regular poor white people. They-- - They are not afraid of Jill. - Poor white people. - Yeah, the transition last week on the podcast, I said when I said the real revolution that happens in this country, the white revolution is going to be led by the same white folks that's dorm the capital, them type of whites. - Yeah, they on the bullshit. They would all have-- - Yeah, and-- - And it's not even close. - Yeah, I agree. - It's not even close. Let's face the thing. - And they know they're not going to be in trouble. - Oh, it depends who's in office. - It's always going to be one of them in office. You keep looping it around. - Yeah, it depends who's in the office. Let's face some bills, um, make it, uh, broader Chris. - You make it K, bro. - You make it K, you make it K. - You try. - You try. - You try. - You get away from your glass. - Try to make it less gay. - You go on the fall before you fall. - Right. - You stay there, bro. - You usually-- - No, you usually says make it bigger. - And you guys were here, so we got a little bit nervous. - Make it bigger. - You usually tell her. - Oh, shit, Jake. - What the fuck? - I thought you lost weight. - You lost my weight. - No, it's not that, it's not that. It's not that right. - Here we go. - That shit would have been crazy. You'd have looked like Mona. Maybe you have seen that. - Yeah, that shit is so funny. - I don't need that. - Frank, look at Mona. - That's the kind of walker you got any church announcements? - Uh, yes, sir. - Um, Theintershows.com shows coming up. We got, uh, what is coming up? - Theintershows.com. You can go check out where we kind of go. Alabama, Indiana, Columbus, Cleveland, and then maybe another place, Street Fighter, October 16th. - Woo! - Get your tickets, Frank. - Wow. - Promo for that is crazy. - You liking it? - I'm seeing the billboards everywhere. I'm seeing the trailers everywhere. - Yes, sir. - Do you got church announcements? - What's church announcement? - Don't drop anything. - Drop. - You're telling them? - Drop. That's why we hear the drop FX, uh, uh, 6 p.m. on Tuesdays, 9 p.m. on Hulu and Disney Plus. That's, it's all about the drop. No silence. Every Tuesday, fresh episodes, uh, we finally built the set. - Oh, earth. - Yeah, I don't, uh, my only struggle is talking to people and interviewing people. People are so full of shit. I don't know how you do it. - Um, I don't like, I don't want you interviewing them. - Yeah, that's how I feel. - I like, I like hearing glasses. Take on pop culture and shit doesn't it? - Yeah. - So, the drop, the drop, the drop, uh, that's all we doing, no silence, the drop. It's all about the drop, man. I'm so excited. We got me and my boy started in the business together 20 years ago, 21 years ago, brands too. I've been doing these deals for 20 plus years. And now we are in the front office of a television show that is number one on Hulu and Disney Plus. - So, three episodes in, four, four. - Sorry, four episodes in. How many apps first season? - I don't, I think eight, eight episodes. And I, listen, we don't want to get ahead of ourselves here, obviously, but like, when you're number one on the channel usually. - Yeah, so it's so good. - Have they spoke about season two? - I'm hearing the whispers, but you know, they want to, I think they'll never respond. Maybe to renegotiations. That's gonna have to have everyone else doing so well. - Yeah. - But I think, I think we, I think we got it. - I think affection, I feel like they didn't drop the ball 'cause they eventually did it spin off. But if they saw what stars was doing, with power and all the different spin-offs that came from power, they should have been doing stuff. - That's 50, man. 50 came and brought something to the business that, we're just talking about how valuable it is, man. Like, him bringing hip-hop into that space is something that still alive, it happened already. - You know what 50 did that was transformed it is like, it wasn't just the content, he brought an audience. - Right. - It's not like he made a show for the stars audience. you.
He made a show for his audience and they went to stars. - Right. - And that's where he was able to make something for ABC or these places 'cause they realized, oh shit, it's not the streamer. - I feel like hip-hop's supposed, this is the natural progression is more of a detailed look into this street urban culture. - Y'all the storytellers. - I'm like, we should have been, all of these dope-ass videos we've seen, now we're like many movies, like you should have been doing stuff like that. - 'Cause Malcolm said he took three years on the pilot. He said he kept writing versions that felt like, "It's no fall." - And he was chasing John. - And he said he finally found something that was like, "Okay, this could work." So it took two and a half to three years. So they was already really lining it. - FX is known for developing something. Like they don't put out just anything and see if it sticks. - No. - They'll develop something for two, three years. And if it doesn't meet their standards, they might let it go. - But that's why they should be hitting them. - They should be right. - But if you look at the shows that come out for networks, their hit rate is pretty fucking good. - They kinda update with HBO and go for it. - Think about it. - I ain't going for it. - They kinda update with HBO. - Like for what I'm here, just for creative. - FX hit rate is best place for real high end creators. - And Apple's cooking right now too. - And as a marketing, how they're marketing, I give X-Face a lot of credit there on letting us do all kinds of different marketing ideas. Like the show head is doing that they all. - Yeah, that's the show, yeah. - Like that was something to me that was like, it was a no-brainer and they was down. So it's like how to be recovered? - Yeah, I mean, well, he all right. - I saw him post on Instagram in like an ambulance. - No, he was met with an ambulance. - Oh yeah, he fell off his bike. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - He fell off his bike. - Yeah, fuck that. - But he was in episode four. - Oh, that makes sense. - Yeah. - I didn't see an episode four yet. - Yeah, he's hosting the after show, so make sure you check out the after show. - I see the after show. - I can choose male, problem head, salads, all the homies and shit, so. FX is letting us do some shit. They let problem do a soundtrack, how they release it. They got a behind the beat. They are very proactive. I give them some credit as far as how they want to market. - There's very interesting to see a lot of people, a lot of my friends that have been in television or have done film, they are like marveling at how they're, like we're part of the marketing. Like as far as the music people, people behind the scenes, the rants, like they're treating us like the talent. And hopefully we set a new precedent moving forward for shows, especially shows that involve a lot of music. I think it's very important to utilize the people that help make the engine go. - That story is about? - Yeah, yeah, I've never, I have never seen it before, but this is my first gig in TV. So I've done took a picture. - It's rare that the guys who make the music for the show lived it. - True. Imagine if you made a mafia movie and then you sent out a couple guys, a couple male guys, that would be fucking it. - Right, but that's what they, they made some pronouns, right? Like all those guys that were, not all of them, but a lot of guys of the pronouns were like around it. They might not have been like, made guys, but they were, so I feel like I feel like, I feel like people demand that what they entertain me at this point. - But if you got it, that's what I'm saying. Like if you guys actually lived it and you can go speak on it, who's gonna do a better job? You or the actors that didn't live at all, and they're saying the words that you guys are writing. - Yeah. - Snoop biopic is 90 something. - What would be the new age West Coast story? Like if y'all could sit down and tell that story. - Like to find one new starting post what year? - 2010. - I had to pick one story. We had to pick one story, Pete. Post 2010. - Hmm. - It's tough. - Probably tell a nip story. - Oh yeah, how could you not tell a nip story? - It's like a layup. I mean, I wouldn't even have to try hard. He's, you know, knowing him so well and fucking with him. And his story would be phenomenal. - That's what I was thinking too. I was thinking nip. - That would be like a no-brainer. You know what a story would be called, Dom? - Really? - I'd make a signal. - I think that's called, you know what I'm talking about? - The blog that I've been talking about in New West. - The blog got, no, after post. The blog that I've been talking about. So this Dom, this is Kendrick. - Us. - This is us. - Yeah. - What a new West is me problem, the generation before. - Yeah. - I feature, I like. - It's just so different by, what was, that would be a good, that would be a good story. - That would be a good story. - We embrace it because I personally saw Tyler. I saw him when he was young and he was mimicking for real at 14 and going to different studios. He was the next door neighbor to my friend. He actually can't record in my bedroom. When we were in Compton, he was super young. So we staffed anything that's authentically from there. I think people can fuse the sonics and say, well, that's not West Coast. - No, that is too, you know what I'm saying? So anything that-- - There was Captain's boy. - Anything that came out of that tree. He's like, you know, we gonna rock with Frank, Earl, you know what I'm saying? A lot of the Domo Genesis, a lot of those guys, like-- - What's the guy that said Frank? Yeah. The Fairfax boy. So it was like, we got, to me watching him is like, remember the movie, "Rad when we were younger?" - "Rad?" - "Rad," the bicycle movie, you never seen "Rad," I never seen "Glaming the Cube." - Bro, you never seen "Glaming the Cube?" - I never seen "Glaming the Cube." - I would eat this like breakfast club. - Well-- - Well-- - So there was a whole street-- - I don't make a lot of sense. - There was a whole street-driven movement, right? If you look at "Rad," "Glaming the Cube," all of these films, "The Legend of Billy Jean," where it was this different level of street life, right in LA, to me, that's what they represent. Like, all of this, kind of this Fairfax energy where it's these street guys. - And it's still, it's still West Coast energy because they're rebellious. - Oh, yeah. - Like, that's what the energy of the West Coast is being rebellious. You can't say, "Well, no, we're not gonna do the norm." And that's our future to it, too. - Very rebellious. - What's the movie, "John's Broly" started in? It was another movie like this, too. - He hung around like a dark town movie. - No, he was like on a bike. No, he was just skater. And he was getting to it with all the skater games. But this was where "John's Broly" started. To me, that's what our future represent. They like, "The Skateboard Bank" here. - Yeah. - They were like, "What else but then?" - I was like, "What else but then?" - Honestly, I would love to see a Cash Money Violet. I wouldn't mind watching that. - Oh, that's, well, that's a no brain. - Well, I'm like, "What are blocking right now?" - Yeah, that's a no brain. - "What are blocking right now?" - Glasses. - But I was thinking about the West Coast. - Grass. - Grass. - You have an encyclopedia. - Bro, these movies was like the shit when I was little because they was like, "You growing up in Compton, you've been watched, you've seen this, you knew this was that street life over there by Villas." - He was watching this shit, sober. - Well, that's what I'm saying. - I'm wondering if we could remember shit like that. - You were. - He was watching this shit, sober. Listen, shout out to Little John, man. Little John's book, I only shopped so you can hear me. It comes out October 20th, which is soon, you know, me in a couple of weeks. October 20th, courtesy of my book in print, "Black for Illustre." - Oh, wow. - Yeah, it's luthin' my guy, Little John, man. He is really, really telling his story. And as he likes to say, this book is about a lot more than music. 'Cause I'm sure y'all seen Little John go on his mind from this journey, you know, and he got his physical and his mental right. - Plus his baby, I remember just praying for him. - Yeah. - He's talking about it. He's talking about it in this book. So I only shopped so you can hear me. You can go pre-order it right now, wherever you buy. - You ready to do this? - Yeah. - I read the manuscript. I haven't read this version. I read the manuscript. So I haven't actually haven't read the new stuff when he added about his son passing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm actually going to reread. - Shout out to John, man. Good job. - Can I give a quick shout out to? - Yes, of course. - Shout out to Officer Munez in Brooklyn. - Who you got locked up, Chris? - Nah, he helped me out the other night. Turns out he's a fan of really idiots. - Oh man. - What do you do? - I didn't do anything. There was a car alarm underneath my window going off for like four hours. Couldn't take it anymore. So I went out. I didn't know what I was going to do, but I coped. - Take over the car. - I was going to do it. - Take over the car. - I'm breaking it. - I was breaking it. - Yes, bro. I didn't know what I was going to do, but I went out there anyway. That's like a real white man answer, too. I just went outside. I didn't know what I was going to do. - I was going to have to solve a problem. That's a real OG white bed answer. - Call the police before you left. - Nah, they were. - I just wanted to get feet on the ground, boots on the ground. - Yeah. - I just needed to know what was going on. I didn't know what the ground was real white bed. Like it was shit happening in the bushes. They going to look like we're-- - We got a front door down that way. - So you got out there and what happened? - See a cop. It was actually a van. It wasn't a car. They drove by, flagged them down. I said, they stopped. I said, listen. I have a look. You know, thank you for stopping. I have a little problem. I'm hoping you can help me. And the guy was like, Chris. I was like, yeah, he's like, I was like, hell, you know me. He's like, it is, man. I listen every week. And I said, all right. So you thought scooters were my problem. Right? And then he left. (laughing) - So. - What's the name? Officer What? - UNES. He said don't get his first name. But they called the guy. They found the license plate. They went. I was thinking the guy's bell. He came down. He moved the car. It was, you know, beautiful police work in there. - Spanish. I believe so. - Munez or Munez, man. - Munez. He said it fast. And I couldn't understand it. - Got it. - But I think it was Munoz. - Got it. - Munez. - Got it. - But then I was like, yo, can I say your first name is like that. I don't say that. So I think he's all right being slightly ambiguous. - And ambiguous. - Yeah, exactly. - Click on the Kendrick Samson says he wants children with the home. We was just talking about kids before the podcast started. - This was an interesting take. Let's hear it. Kendrick Samson shares his polo home. Kendrick Samson shares his polyamorous beliefs and reveals he wants children with his home girl, with whom he's not romantic says romance disrupts healthy setup for a kid. It was anything to get pussy, man. - I definitely want children, but I want children with my home girls. I want-
My homegirls to know that we ain't never gonna have a romantic nothing. And the only thing we worried about is the health of the child. - Yeah. - It ain't complicated by what I feel and what mood I'm in, what, you know, what how you betrayed me, how you slept with something, how you cheated, you know. I don't want the romance. You haven't been showing enough romance and so now the kid is suffering. I would rather be in a relationship where we know we got kids. It's takes a village, this is the village. If you understand, especially Black maternal mortality in Texas and like how hard it is like to go through the medicals and even like thinking about natural birth do less and you over here worried about romance? Like when they say it takes a village, it really does. - That's a long-winded way to say he don't want to be in a relationship but he just wants to have kids. - That's all he had to say. Like I ain't really trying to be in a relationship but I want kids. - But he isn't in a relationship, huh? - He isn't in a relationship. - Oh no. - He was saying that. He was saying that's why they're using the term polymores belief. He's in it, that's crazy. - Yeah. - This is interesting. - Like with somebody. - Trying to say. - Yeah, but that's just all he's saying is I want kids. I just don't want to be in a committed relationship with nobody. - With the parent of him. - He doesn't want the committed relationship. - And he feels like if you with somebody. - Things don't go by. - At some point. - At some point. - Yeah. - The way I read it. - Yeah, you can't be that much of an abolitionist, bro. - I can understand you don't like traditional systems but that's the whole point a lot of times. Like you getting a relationship with somebody. - I suppose we need to reward somebody. - Yes. - That's somebody you already picked. The person you want to spend the rest of your life with, y'all have kids, y'all raise a family. Cool, keep it moving. Like, I mean, it's so tricky. Like I said, it's a tricky one. - It's really not. - I'm telling you it is because social media does change the dynamics a lot for a lot of people. It's not even social media, it's just in the time where if the guy and the girl are beefing, it affects the way their parent is. - That does. - That's life. - I know it's life, but I mean, this in his mind is all part of their parent. - This is a better idea. Damn. - You don't beef with your home, girl? I beef with plenty of my home, girl. I mean, I don't know if the beef is the word but yeah, I don't know if the beef with the home. - Nah. - We argue, we argue, you might get mad at each other for a second, but that's life. - I understand what he's trying to say. - It translates to me problem. - It's just basically like, okay. - What he said-- - If I piss you off, I don't want to have nothing to do with the damn. - No, it's not even that. He doesn't want if he gets caught cheating, that affects the way you allow him to parent. Or if you get caught cheating, that affects the way you guys parent. - If caught cheating, don't affect the parents? - I mean, you know that. - Yeah. - You know, I don't know that. (laughing) - No, I'm saying, what he's saying is-- - Your life's outside, brother. We don't know how to do that. - Yeah, he's trying to say it. (laughing) - You know how life's doing. - Trying to do it under the back, like a mother fucking thing. - Did that happen in the 90s? - Not in the 90s. - What the fuck happened? - Not in the 90s. - Yeah, like, you know, so they feel, it's a tight rope, I get it. - It's a tight rope, but I'm not in, but I guess the thing is, - What he will realize is once he has a baby with the home girl. - That's it, you shouldn't even the home girl. - That's home girl, home girl. - I'm talking about that. - I just don't grow on that. - That's your baby mama. - Now y'all family. - Very arguing. - Baby mama's, I've never heard somebody say, "My baby mama is my home girl." - I can say it. - It's your baby mama. - I can say that, mother and my child is my home girl. - That's what's up. - But like, you guys started-- - They wasn't home or-- - We started romantically, but we just started-- - Your work relationship, we end up getting a relationship, but that's really my home girl. - So what they saying is, if you got a girl pregnant, it probably wouldn't be as simple as you could just call her your home girl. Y'all might have found y'all way back after. - Right, she started as my home girl. We began a relationship, had a kid. We wasn't supposed to have a kid. We weren't supposed to really get a relationship. And then after struggling to figure something out, it was like, we gotta remember how we really met. We wasn't even supposed to really do this. And like, super close. When I say super close, I'm, she might walk into her grandma, I'm her mom's house, and I'm sitting there chilling. She gonna walk in there doing, she'll ask me about my son. You need, we need anything, like a real home girl. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It took some time to get that, but I don't think I would have started, like, you know what, we're gonna have this kid and then we're gonna be taking it. - I think in the best co-parenting situations, the parents remain friends. - But you don't start off as platonic. - But starting off as platonic, right. - No romance, much of a kid is gonna be some, - Right, and he doesn't know that because he, 'cause I'm telling you those hormones, and then you looking at this little moment, - Baby, just like that baby all day. - That baby all organized in her body. - Yeah, it's something about creating a human with a person that just, you know, you now feel an attachment. - But creating a human with a person that you already have an emotional attachment to is the best. - It is, the best. - That's the thing. - That's a real scenario. - When you're in love, like, you know, you and the person are in love, and you have kids. It's beautiful. - My question is, does he have kids saying this? - I don't think so. - 'Cause if he didn't, man, shut up. (laughs) - Shut up, shut up, shut up. - That's like, when you're talking about me and my kid, hey, bro, hey. - I am the best. - Look at those guys, you're like, hey, bro, don't talk to me about that. - I'm the best. - That's what I can say. - But anyone outside, you have to see them. - I hear you out. - He's as curious being a dad and being like, oh, you know what, I don't like this way. I'ma try that way. - I don't know what he's talking about. - Yeah. - That is true. - Yeah. - That's social media in a nutshell, though. A bunch of you who've never experienced what the fuck they're talking about, trying to tell the world how to do something. - That's the premise of this show. (laughs) - But we call it the bro in the end. - Yeah, you admit that. - Yeah. - We had all the fun of it. - We're all in the end of the podcast. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - We've never admitted to being experts at nothing. - Right. - Oh, I do have a shout out, by the way. - Okay. - Your shirt. - Oh, my God, yes. - Got a shout out. - Shout out to Duval, man. - I thought that you could see it in theaters. - Fuck, I'm not just thinking of this weekend. - We could get up. - Hold on, you're right. - Man. - Thank you so much. - Duval is a nut. - I was like, he's gonna go like, if you wanna go like stereotypical shoes in this role, we gotta crack it. - West Coast. - Shucks. - West. - Oh, the Sims. - New York. - And swash moves. I don't know what the system's called, but they like to say what the system is. (laughs) - Don't ask them on joy. It's like everybody got this thing down in here. - This is what we were talking about. - Regional thing. - Yeah. - You need to have it. - Yeah. - I was probably with that. - That's funny. - Go to campduval.com and Duval shot his own movie at his-- - At Camp Duval, man. - At Camp Duval, man. - He literally has a Camp Duval. This is not a set. - Yeah. - This is literally his place. - He is so great. - He is. - Yeah. - Fuck it Duval. - That's my guy. - Hold on, it's coming out in the-- - What's wrong with the fucking internet? - Look it up for me. - Yeah. - Go to campduval.com. - You go to campduval.com for tickets and screens. - Yeah, 'cause he's got the movie in some theaters, some AMC theaters. - Yeah. - He said, "You got your flight." - I think it's October 2nd and 3rd. - Oh. - Are you gonna catch flight? - Yeah, man. - Thanks, love you to Doug. - Maybe you-- - Yes, the bless and see you around the way. - Thanks, man. - Thanks for coming. - We're on the way. - Wish you well, I get back one. - Yeah. - I may expect. - Thank you. - All right. - You just look it up from like this. - I got it right here. - Okay, one is-- - September 30th through October seconds. - Okay, AMC theaters. - Three-night run, all four-- If you go to all 14 markets at Atlanta, Baltimore, Birmingham, Charlotte, Chicago, Dallas, World Worth, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, obviously. Miami, Fort Lauderdale, New Orleans, New York City, Orlando, and Washington, D.C., man. - That's right, man. Just go to campduval.com to buy tickets, man. He shot the whole shit himself. - Goat. - Funded it himself. My guy, Eric, switch films, wrote it, they directed it. - I'm man. - All that good stuff, man. - He's fucking funny. - He's not even trying to be funny. - Oh, it's great. Oh, they got an actor. - Yo, no. - So that's my man, that's my man. - Hey, dude, man. - He's one of the actor in the film, so give us. - Nice to meet you, bro. - How are you, man? - Good, Charlotte, man. - Yes, sir. - Payton is one of work, man, he's the one. - Grab a sip. - World-review, man. (all laughing) - I'm cool. - I know, I know, I know. - You can move to my clothes if you want. - Oh, shout out to Stevie Wonder. I'm going to see Stevie Wonder songs in the key of life, bro. - That's gonna be good. - That shit is gonna be at Madison Square Garden. I have a follow-up. They haven't announced who the halftime performer at the Super Bowl is gonna be yet. They usually announce it around this time of year. Top October, Stevie Wonder, y'all. - Oh, yeah. - Stevie Wonder. - Everybody talking about Miley Cyrus and you know. - The white twig, man, Jay. - The white twig. - The white twig. - The white twig. - The white twig. - Stevie Wonder. - The white twig loves Stevie. Stevie Wonder, what's your belong to the white twig? - That's all of them. - We don't like to use the word belong anymore, but we don't support. - I like you. - I like you anymore. - Yeah, we gotta be. - Thank you, thank you. - 'Cause I think it's time to be a lifetime of 50 this year, right? - Yeah. - Hey, my name's Nick. - That would be amazing. - Yo, oh, rock nation, Stevie Wonder, songs in the key of life. Stevie Wonder, what's up, yo? - Do the right thing. - That would be a main, Stevie Wonder. - Man, that would be good. - What? It's Stevie Deserth. - Man, I'm up there, I'm just going crazy. - Come on, 50 years of songs in the key of life. - Wow. - You don't think so? - They don't do, oh, problem don't see it. - I don't know.
I don't see it. That's crazy. I don't see it. It's crazy. I think Stevie, Stevie, Stevie Devley deserves it for sure. Yeah, he would rock it. I know he would rock it. He ain't gonna stop performing. Yeah, he fucked around with that time. Get the click and he got to start. Yeah, he's gonna keep going. Not be all right, that's more than enough for Stevie with it. 30 minutes, man. You can just have him. You're gonna do the whole thing. That's enough, though. What is he gonna do with 15 minutes? He's manly. He's manly. He's manly. His manly would be incredible. Yes, man. Have Paul McCartney come out. All the artists influenced Ebony and I probably cook. All the artists that Stevie wanted influence can come out there and do something with him. Yeah, Stevie would be phenomenal. That would be great. That would be something in the Hill of America. Yes, man. I was just kidding. Stevie wanted. He was like, whoa, this guy. Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you. Yeah, you got my voice. It's Steve. My first choice though, I'm sorry. Who's your first choice? Last Stevie. I don't think my first choice. But that was, I don't know. I mean, this is the year, to me. Well, so they had to go nostalgic. To me, this is the year to go nostalgic. But who else are like, what's the top right now for a superman? Think Jay. I think Jay would be good. I don't want Jay. I don't want Jay to go for me, but I think Stevie would be wonderful for all of us. Here's the problem with Stevie though, the way they film these things now, like you saw a pair of bunny, it's all the movements. This is fantastic. This move is all piano on the float over. You build it around them. I think you just let him perform because you can actually build something that doesn't hover around the place. You treat him like Rihanna when she was pregnant. Then Alicia Keys is good. I don't know if I was doing something. I was doing the piano. I saw her do something. You treat it like Rihanna when she was pregnant? Yes. Rihanna didn't do too much. Put that big piano up there. Because we didn't have anything like this in a while. Now you got to have Stevie come in like Chris Brown, I'm floating from the nose. No. No. I'm like y'all right up if y'all have my mesh TV in the brain. I think people will remember really good music. I feel like we've been showcasing so much stuff that sometimes we forget about the music. It really could be about music with somebody like Steve. Yes, man. And he's the last of a, I don't want to say dying breed because that breed, most of that breed is dead. Right. Yeah. Yeah. That's what friends are for. But you could have Elton John. You'd have to have someone do, uh, he could have, he could play it by itself. He could have people come. It would be better. Staying in friends will be fire. Fire! What about fire? What about Justin Bieber? I don't know. I don't know. You have all the collabs as well. I'm not mad at you. Bieber is crazy. I don't know. I'm not mad at you. Bieber is the one outside of Stevie. Who else? I'm saying, I think you need to, because older people watch TV, it's about time you get back to some of that classics shit. Bieber is a baby. He got at least another five years for you to be a person. I'll be a 20 plus in. I have 20 years of career. What? You have a 20 plus in. One of them got 15 plus in. Listen. I'm all full of Stevie. But I'm not like that. If I had to go outside of Stevie, because I haven't, Stevie hadn't been mentioned at all. Who'd you say? He said Bieber. Miley Cyrus. Jay Z. You can always do Chris Brown. But I just feel that. Chris never happens. Chris not going to pass. Which is so, which is so, it's such hypocrisy. But I feel like, I feel like Stevie would be really dope. Nobody planned it. I just miss when he used to be music. I mean, Chris would be phenomenal, but that's not happening. I don't know who I want to do it. It's not going to happen. On you. Yeah. That's never happened. I mean, it isn't Drake. The obvious choice, even though it wouldn't happen. Drake's not happy. I mean, Drake's been offered it a couple times and they want to do it. Third it down. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it would be. It would have to be. No, yeah, 15 minutes. I don't like that. You crazy. Not again. That's 15. That's 15. Well, it's only 15. What? That would be. You probably move from forming under the field. They'll do some other stuff. I don't want to. I mean, listen. Let's go, Steve one. Let's stop. You can't trust Kanye. I'm not rocking the bowl. I don't know. There's too many. First of all, them Jewish owners would have a fit and then Kanye, why? They're Jewish. They just turned it back on. What's that man name? Ed Sheeran. Maclamore. They like broke that night. I don't even know what that shows got canceled anyway. Kanye is never more. You know, I'm so crazy. Yes, I saw that, right? Right. A lot. He controls the weather. A lot. I got you like that. Just shut down. I'm not. Yeah. Stevie Wonder, enough. Shit. Just let's go, Stevie. Stevie will be for now, man. My dad will watch it. And I'm not going to. The only reason I don't want it to be Jay. He's just manifested it. No, I know. I understand what we're doing. But I'm also trying to speak like hypothetically about something else. I think they want to give it to like a country star. That's what I think they want to do. I mean, you can tell us what would be logical. But I think that's where they'll be there anyway. I think they're trying to bring Miley in as the country. Miley would be phenomenal. And then she does Dolly. I just caught that. Taylor is going to be there. That makes sense. The chiefs will be there. Miley does a Dolly song. Everyone goes crazy. I just don't want it to be Jay. Because there's a lot of people. I don't want it to be right. I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do country just yet. Because I don't want it to be Jay. Is this the last year that he's in charge of doing the Super Bowl? No, I don't think so. You don't want it. Hold on. Because there's a lot of people I don't want to be right. Like what? Because you know, people are saying that. They're like, oh, Jay's going to do the Super Bowl. And I'm like, nah, I don't know. He's got a new album. That's going to break it. Oh, please. Let's go Stevie Wonder. Stevie Wonder, man. That would be great. Stevie. I guess America honor. Wonder the brother. Then Stevie get somebody. Who was it? Who was it? That's a lot of blackness. I was at the Super Bowl that Drake did. I'm sitting there like. I know. But Jay is. I'm like. I'm like, Jay is super mainstream crossover. I don't think I did it. Super mainstream. Yeah. But not like Drake. No. Drake Snoop 50 M&M Kendrick. Mary Jay blies. It's like the biggest. Come on. Now I was getting bring out that same cashier of people. That's not what we saying. So you saying he don't have 15 minutes of big song. First off. You said I'm at the New York. I love this. I want to hear this. I love not. First off, we would all like that. No, I'm sad that you think he can all imagine him doing Uchi Wally at the Super Bowl. I'm like, I'm the soul like fucked up. I know. Nobody else knows what's going on. If I grew to world, the world. Oh, man. And they'd be like, look at these numbers up here. I mean, listen, at this point. They would be fired. At this point, rock nation could do that if they wanted to. Because they haven't missed. Right. But, but, but, but I wouldn't. I think knives were wanted to be Stevie. Yeah, this guy. Knob would want to be. Glasses. He'll be. Well, that's fire of man. Fuck that. Well, fuck that. I mean, he's arguably the greatest. The soul writer of value. Living. I'll put him in Paul McCartney's. The two greatest. Oh, Stevie. They're. They're not gonna fuck with Stevie. Chris. They're not gonna. Paul writes. Yeah. Paul McCartney. Paul is Stevie is neck and neck. Now, I don't think Paul is Stevie neck and neck and neck. That's a lot. It's a lot of stuff. It's a lot of stuff. It's a lot of stuff. I got to get on my Paul back. Pull up. Pull up Paul McCartney's writing credits real quick. I mean, like, you know, 30 of the most popular songs of all time, probably. I'm too. But that's before they let us talk. The world. Yeah. I'm not. I'm not even. That's me. That's me. We were still getting this together. That's me. That's me. That's me. That's me. - That was a racer. - He's on a racer. - Yeah. - That was the pro. - Gatson's nasty move. - This is like a race move. - Yeah, it was race move. - It was on a theme. - Stevie was having a crossover when you was on a racer. - I mean, listen, I'm out of Beatles fan. I'm a Rolling Stones guy, but these songs are undisputable. - Yeah. - I've never heard Dunl. - You've never heard, let it be. - Which I? - Let it be. - Let it be. - You've never heard, hey, Jude. - I heard, hey, Jude. - I heard them, hey, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - I mean, these are, I've come to guess, dude. - Yes, yes, yes, yes. - I mean, these. - But this might, you know, every time I come, every time I actually am on this show, I say something blasphemous. This is for sure the blasphemous thing. The Beatles are overrated. - I agree. - I'm so tired of people bigger than that shit. (laughs) - Stones kill them, but I can't be boys better than the Beatles. - What about musical diversity? - Stones kill them. - No, but Beatles, specifically, like, that's the thing that I think is - I don't queen over Beatles. - No, queen is. - Queen is better than the Beatles. - Oh, okay. - They're better than the Beatles. Like, saying, "Better than the Beatles" and W.A. better than the Beatles. - I was happy. - And they're better than the Beatles. - The Beatles are better than the Beatles, y'all. - The Beatles, I have a cool song, and then they have a bunch of fucking. - This is an eight-month-old song. - No, no, no, no, he's like, "Fuck, if Beatles "will have a bunch of Beatles, "don't study the Beatles for about six months." And I was like, "Y'all so full of shit, "the fucking Beatles is not fucking with queen. "It's way better than the Queen." - They're rather better than the Beatles. - You're not true. - What? Already? - That's not true. - I ain't gonna go that far. - No, but this is a real conversation. - Beatles ain't got this. - This is a real conversation. - Queen is way better than the Beatles. - Queen. - Queen is the. - Queen is unbelievable. - Queen is, we will rock you in all this year. - Oh, yeah. - Queen's gonna fire. - I thought they were like, "No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no."
Yeah, really yeah, what it was actually written by the guitars, but Freddy sang the hell out of this. Okay, like you felt it, right, right. Shout out the point, saying it like we never did the Super Bowl. No, I saw it. I can't put it in. What the fuck is it really early? I'm trying to think what you want. I've got a earth, that's why it's real. Stevie one, if you, if you, if Stevie wanted to start playing of songs, it's going to blow everybody mind. How much of those songs? Yes, man, pull out of Stevie Wonder's greatest. I would want to vote for Stevie Wonder. I've done the research and Elton John have the two longest runs of music history right now. Remember, Stevie Wonder's first hit was 1963 Fingerprint's part one. Elton John did the Super Bowl, right? He did. I remember that. I fucked with Elton John too. Oh, yeah, Stevie got to do it. Oh, if Elton did the Super Bowl, Stevie got to do the same thing. I fucked with Elton John. Stevie got to do it. Stevie got to do it now. It's only fair. It's only fair, man. It's straight. Two blind pianos. Yeah, there's no John's not blind. What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? No, no. Oh, no, he's gay. My fault. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No John is the same thing. Now, look, first number one single, 1963 Fingerprints, part two. Yeah. Now, just go to his greatest hit. Go to Stevie Wonder. That's all his greatest hit. He could just do songs in the key of life for the 50th anniversary. Yeah. And cook. It's like 10 hits on that, on that album. Okay. I think it depends on what is the average age of the superman? It's not even matter. It has the matter. No, it's just all my bad. It's not even one very expensive. What? Super-stitch. You will realize how young you're not when you listen to Stevie Wonder. I get that, but everybody under 30 is not going to appreciate it. Yes, they listen. You will realize you have to pay the price. Hey, you would realize how much Stevie Wonder you know when he starts playing "Fuck Your Song." You know what I'm saying? I'm saying you don't matter if it's live. I just need to put some love. Talk to me. Right there. First station, third duke. Isn't she lovely? You the second? I'm saying I'm just kidding. I'm like, "I'm really good." I'm like, "I'm really good." I'm like, "I'm really good." Which is one of the greatest albums of any genre of music. So, it's Lady Gaga coming out to sing. Let's do some asking that he is Chris. V-pop both says, "What's one thing you wish your kid knew and one thing you wish your kid forgot?" Oh, man. Oh, shit. I don't know, man. That's a good one. Because I want my kids to know everything. I want my kids to read every book at some point. And I want them to always be able to have conversations with me so I can tell them everything. And I don't want them to forget nothing. They've lived great lives. I wish my kids knew what life was before the Internet. My kids don't, but they're not on social. They're not on social. My oldest 18, no one's don't unplug. I'm gonna be on the tablet. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Life might be a little too nice. - You're sending niggas in the apartment today. - Yes. - But that's what it's worth. - But it's a fade at the end of the day, somebody could land a shot. - That's what I mean, shit. - You just can't approach, it's the thing, you can't approach saucy like this is easy. - Yeah. - You got a long day. - I'm gonna be fighting one hundred and 17%. Jack, let's win the one. I'll be phoned, I'll be buying Jack. The whole stuff doubling up, tripping up. I was for what he's doing. - What if he's the one who's not going to fight? - That's a loose, loose situation. - No one is going to fight. - You got that, that's a bullshit. - No, it's not, no, it's not. - No, it's not. - I'm telling you. - If you first stop, nobody think you're going to whoops off. - No, it's not going to lose, lose, cause saucy ain't going. - saucy ain't going easy, I'll tell you. - But if he wins though, bro, he gets mad. - If he's won, he's no coming back from that. - Say what? - If he wins, look like Jimmy's saying it. - Oh, that's true. - Look like blood Crawford. - What do you do if he wins, bro? - Look then, he looked like blood Crawford. Y'all gonna all know we got hands. - You just said about saucy, you said just cause the person got a person. Just cause the person is gay, don't mean that they saw it.
So I wouldn't look at, I wouldn't say it to lose, lose, and sauce. He got the best. - I'm saying back in the day when we was younger, you would look at a person that would be considered gay as they were soft. That motherfucker, I don't think he's soft. - I don't know about that. - I don't know. I actually always thought they were tougher than me. - No, I thought they got more fights. I didn't think of them as soft. - No, they take it. They take it. - No, they take it. - They make guns for them. - Oh, listen. Listen. - Oh, listen. - They take it. - They take it with tough hands. - Who would he have. - Who would he have got their pride? - They got their pride. - I did. - Well, that's your comfortable was fucked up. - So imagine doing that shit for fun. - That's why I believe it. - You know what I'm saying? Imagine that somebody run up in you for fun. - Wait, tough for me. - But that's what I'm saying. - And it's a different commitment. He's more tolerant of peeing than you. - That was five minutes. - That's five minutes. - 50 minutes. - It's going for 50. - What if he goes 51? - I'm 52. - What if he goes 53? - 56. - Once you get there. Once you get there, 69, he wins. (laughing) - Once you get there 59, don't say he wins. - He wins. - He wins. (laughing) - So that's one of the fun that look like he can fight. - He's 71 men. - He's pulling you. - Chad crosses. - Man, I swam with that nigga 'cause he a real problem. - I'm telling you. - Me. - What if he catches you? - He slips something. - I'm going to let him in because I need to test out what's happening. - What if he drops to your first one? - I'm going to get up. - What if he falls asleep? - What you mean if you got to get up? - But what if he's on you? - You got to get up. - And what if he chokes you out? Now you're, oh yeah, you're gonna choke me out 'cause I'm not on a block that, but guess what? We gonna see. (laughing) - I'm telling y'all, that's what I'm saying, bro. - Hey, it's Luke and Sosie saying 10, man. I don't know why, that's who glasses want to squabble with. (laughing) - You got it, man. I was saying, oh no, no, no, no, no. Sillans, I was like, bro, Sosie's saying 10 will be a fight 'cause it's like him says and I'm like, "Nah, I'm Jabba's mother fucker." - You ever met Sosie? - Why I see me once? - I'm telling you, I've sized Sosie up, and I'm like, that's a long day right now. - Yeah, I know. - I got an old man. - Whoa! - You're an old man. - That's you. - You're in a way in the long run. - Stretch it out, man. - I'm not mad at Lord, I'm so gay and tall. - That's a whole, I got an old day to win this fight. - That was a long, black face myself. - What was it? - What was a long one? - That's not a fucking. - That nigga had academics crying, this shit, I was like, oh, hey, that was crazy. - I'd be like, fuck that, you got to just woo me, dawg, 'cause there's ain't none of this shit. - Listen. - All right, but hypothetically, if he did win the fight fair and square, hypothetically, it's just a hypothetical. - What? - What are you saying afterwards in the press conference? - Y'all gonna see, y'all gonna be like, man, he could whoop somebody ass for real. - I knew that though. - We already knew it. - It's two gay men right now, I'm telling you where you are. - No, no, no, no, no, no. - No, I ain't mean to laugh, I'm not talking much about me. - I'm not talking about you. - I know the other one. - You know the other one. - The magician's kid. - Urban Magic Johnson Jr. - E.J. Wayne, you're gonna fuck out. - I'm telling you, E.J. Wayne, you the fuck. - What's up, what's up, what's up, what's up, what's up? - Six nine, y'all, y'all. - I ain't doing this, bro. - E.J. Wayne, I'm rake fooling the high heels. - Yeah, yeah. - Yo. - E.J. Wayne, legs look so scrum. - Yo, not about that. - Got real fooling you. - E.J. got everything on his daddy's daddy's daddy's daddy's daddy's gipspump. - Yeah, yeah. - E.J. Wayne, you out there. - I slap E.J. hand, damn. - I hate him. - I'm so good. - I'll say. - Think about his recovery. - All right. - If he got that for real. - All right. - First of all, he's not. - All right. - First of all, let's not correct. - Yeah. - Magic Johnson's son. - Magic Johnson is the greatest man in all the sports. - Yeah. - I wouldn't even fight E.J. - Yeah. - I'll just sit down somewhere. - It's fun, it's fun. - You know, see DJ in person? - Yeah. - Monster of a man. - Man, I'm not. - You're all gross. - What's he all gross? - It's just gross. - First of all, bro. - Magic Johnson. - No, listen. - You got all these daddy athletic gift, bro. - Monster of a man. - Monster of a man. - He's a Magic Johnson. - What's DJ's measurements? - Come on, man. - No, just come on, bro. - DJ, like six, seven, two, 40 muscle. - Yeah, bro. - Yo. - Bro, I'm telling you, I've seen him in person. - A couple of times. - He's only six, too. - No, no, I'm six, too. - I'm six, too. - No, no, no, no. - I see DJ in person. - No, I'm all for the big daddy, right. - DJ is doing it. - DJ Johnson. - No, that ain't, you got a group of Jones. - That's it. - Put for Junior. - Yeah, put Magic Johnson. - That's it. - That's it. - DJ Johnson's. - Magic Johnson. - Magic Johnson. - Junior Junior. Yeah, you don't want it with sauce or y'all. - No, no, no, no, sauce is this good. - Sauce is good. - No, he's taller than six, too, I see. - No way, no way, no way. - No way, no way, no way, no way, no way. - Is there any buddy that could, any civilian that you think they'll fuck you? - Jiggy box, though. - Yeah, I'll be sure. - I assume it's your turn. - What I'm just telling you. - No, I'm just telling you. - Look at that, y'all, you're not looking to me. - Show my fuck off. - You're almost Magic Johnson. - That's what I'm trying to tell you. - Yeah, but DJ ain't on no time it. At first off, it's Magic Johnson's turn. I wouldn't do nothing to Magic Johnson's whilst so much goodwill in my, you know, man, Magic Johnson is my favorite first of all time. - Greatest point, god of all time. - Chris, why? - Are you zooming in on the soul? - Magic Johnson, Chris, Chris. - You know, go for Magic Johnson. I don't even want to talk about Magic Johnson in his life. - Magic Johnson is so fat, Magic Johnson be there. - Bro, look. - And that's what I'm saying. Imagine, I'm not fighting your son, nigga, you go somewhere, boy. You Magic Johnson, get your little stupid ass out of here. - DJ got some heals, man. - Magic is a legend. - They don't even make heals, size 12. - No, no, look at Magic. - DJ got 'em, y'all say with DJ if y'all want to. - I ain't doing that with you. - Shout out to E.J. Stoffie Santana. - E.J. - You have money with me, bro. - E.J. Stoffie Santana's my hero. - Pointing you in an alley. - Card 9-1-1, I know you don't like to deal with the police. - No, you got it. - But you got to Card 9-1-1-1-1. - Nah, nah, I'm gonna take the gloves. I'm gonna take the beat up. I can't call the police on them. - Shout out to G, listen, Stoffie Santana, E.J., by the way, y'all gotta stop acting like y'all don't like watching them too, man. - E.J. Stoffie, I like watching them live, man. - I almost don't believe E.J. is a real person. - Listen, I saw E.J. Stoffie. - E.J. Stoffie, I met E.J. in a juice bar that lay one time and got excited, like, "Oh shit, E.J. Stoffie." - Oh, man. - Oh, shit. - I was happy to meet E.J. Stoffie. - I said, "Oh, shit, E.J. Stoffie." - I don't even lie. I probably would. It's Magic John. You that close to Magic John. - I mean, I didn't met Magic, too, but I'm not that late. - No, it's Magic John. It's about to pass out, so his son is like, "Good money, E.J. me. What you need, bro? You all right? You know, you good." - You got to just give him respect because he comes from his balls. - It's Magic John, bro. Like, that's the greatest basketball player ever. - I mean, greatest basketball player. Greatest athlete in terms of business, man. - He championship, he beat a world killer. He did beat a world. - Back when the real E.J. - He had the real one. - The early one. - The original one. - The real E.J.V. knocked off Freddie Mercury, knocked off Arthur A.J. He just gave E.J.V. 47, 15, and 12. - Do you remember that story they told us those shows? You was one of those when they told us that story? - When that exact told us that story? - And exact told us the story about that whole shit, man. Years ago, like, years, years. - Oh, you wanted that. - I don't know, you wanted that. - Because it's such conspiracy theory, not that I went to, we old and tell them. - Oh, this out there. - They couldn't believe he beat it, so they said, "It's Magic." - No, no. - No, it was something else. It was something called, it was like, "Yeah, it was something else." - Magic is great. - Let's do another ask-a-day. - You can say it, but it's just gonna be a whole thing. - No, I don't do that. - Yeah, don't go bad. - Don't go viral of magic. - No, not magic. - Yeah. - I go viral of magic every day. - I literally don't know what they'll tell me. - They always play every day, that clip is always in my algorithm. - Oh, yeah, who gave it to you? - Yeah, I'm like, who gave it to you? - When I first got it, did you think it was that nasty bitch from Sacramento? - Wait, that's a real thing? - Yeah, it's the ass magic that it's face. - Oh, I didn't see that. - I just see this clip. - What did he say? - He'll pull it up, pull it up. - Pull it up. - Oh, that's the shame on you, Sharma. - Come on, how do you not ass magic that? - This is, go. - When you first got the information, did you ever say to yourself, "It was that nasty bitch from Sacramento who did that?" - Would you? - Well, you think like that, no question about it. (laughing) - Come on, man. Listen, think about the first time you got an HIV test. - Go. Did you not write down every single woman you've been with? Every single one. - Right, he was. - What's funny is, I will say this, and forgive me, man, you know what I'm thinking. Bro, the person that is in his mind, that he probably got it, 'cause I don't know who you been with, and there's somebody in your mind. - Yes. - That you're thinking about. - Yes. - I wonder, did he ever say something to that person? - Of course. He had to say something, 'cause he went public. So being that he went public, whether he had to go back and tell. - And then, all the girls I was giving him, pussy on the elevator, what they do. Damn. - I mean, he probably didn't know that his girl, like when his girl's died. (laughing) - Shit, he was talking to me like, man, I knew it. (laughing) - Fuck, hey. (laughing) (laughing) (laughing) - What's that, man? - Those girls have knocked it down. Good job. - I ain't gonna check that out. - 'Cause that's just girls, I thought it was like Magic Johnson gave it to him. - Oh, you ever know that? - That's just girls. - I thought it was like Magic Johnson gave it to me. - They all died. - You just told you, man. - Yeah, cookie, cookie didn't even get it, bro. 'Cause he's that nice. - No, it's exactly, it's magic. - The no-look. - Yeah, it's fall control. - Yeah, he just, you know what I mean? - Let's do one more, Chris. - Yeah, man. - Let's do a couple more, let's do two more. - That was good when you just passed. - What? Ian underscores Steven 6.1.9. Is it me or did white people use to name their dog Blackie? - Nah. - Yes. - Blackie? - Yes. - It feels a black dog.
y'all the black lab. I feel like if they were gonna do that, they would have went crazy. - Go. - They wouldn't have went crazy, right? - No question, this your question, right? - Go. - Yo, you know what's so funny speaking to that? It's close. You see the name of that new Tom Cruise movie? - Bruh? - That shit is take-lose man. - They did that shit all the time. - Oh, the death was a Jack Russel? - No. - Called digger. - Oh, digger. - Oh, that's what it was. - They won another Tourette's Moment, man. They won a Tourette's Moment, bro. There's no reason for that movie to be called - Let me tell you something. - Like, no, no, no, no. - I circles that movie is called the new Tom Cruise movie. (laughing) I don't get no black person thought in that movie. - Fuck. - 'Cause if you pulled in front of that whole name, - What is the movie called? (laughing) - I have no idea. - Rich's person in the world is like digging for oil, digs too far, I think, and then like creates a catastrophic event, and he has to try to find a way to save the world. - Oh, it's gonna be my type of movie. I love it. - I call oil. - What do I do in the world? - It's different. It could have went with it. - It's like, yeah. - I wonder why they're making that movie now. - Armageddon. - I was talking, I think I was talking to Van the other day, and he was talking about, he can explain this better than me, but he was talking about how they used to make those movies about people discovering oil back in the day as propaganda, so people would be accepting of using oil as some shit like that. - Or be accepting of you coming in and buying your property, like you would hope you had oil in your property. - Yeah, it was something, I can't remember, he can explain it better than I did, 'cause we were talking about AI in all the way. - Me like the Beverly Hillbilly? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, let's do one more. Oh, what country you guys moving to if we get our shit bombed with all this World War III tension going on? - Better move before the bombing, first of all. - Yeah, if you get bombed, well, if they don't go all the way to shit. - I don't know where to hang out. - You're saying where about that? - It's America. - It's America. - I'm just moving that, moving that. - No, you're saying America doesn't exist anymore. - No, I don't think, I don't think, first of all, I don't think nobody would ever bomb America. - Why not? - Why not? - No, I don't think. - They would try. - I don't see a crack. - It flew them, it flew them. - One thing I get is more fuckers. One thing I get is more fuckers than crazy too. I don't know, you know what it is? Some crazy people out here, so. - I do think that there's gonna be some wild shit that happens in the next few weeks before them. - Yeah, I'll leave. - I'm just letting y'all know, I really do see some, and I do see some wild ass shit. I don't know if it's gonna get to nuclear level, but it's gonna be some wild shit that happens before the midterm. - They already started. - Break it down. - Well, you have an alleged terrorist conspiracy of Iranian terrorists in London caught right before they attacked the US base in London. - Oh shit. - About a day or two ago, you had an Israeli jet hijacked. - That is true. - Today. - That's too little. - They're moving, man. - They're moving the shake. - You had enough of those together. - Yeah. That's what I'd say. It's gonna be, I don't know what it's gonna be, but it's gonna be something stupid over the next, in the next few weeks right before the midterms, and whatever it is, it's gonna be some type of act of war, and he's going to use that to try to call the midterms off in some way shit before. - Jesus. - You still think he gonna say that all the time? - I can say the life. - He gonna say a lot, I don't think so. - I already told you, I already told you. - You just said it a long time ago. You're like, "Glad is this my fucker?" And you know what I'm saying? They ain't no chance. One thing that white people love more than Trump is that constitution. They ain't not letting this motherfucker stay a day old. - What I said last week, I'm telling you, it's the white people, white people, I'm gonna save the democracy. - Say it. - I'm telling you what I'm saying. - Just the truth. - They love him, but they not letting him stay a day over. - 'Cause they know what freedom feels like. And that document you talking about the constitution, that shouldn't be applied to them. It means something to them. They not letting nobody play with that in no way shit. - Day over, they would. It'll be civil war like the movie. - Yeah. - They ain't not gonna play with that motherfucker. - Yeah. - What country are you in my movie, too, if we get bombed? - I'm going to Belize. - Belize? - Yeah. - Okay. - I like it there. - I'll be an Anguilla. - Anguilla? - Japan. - Oh really? - I know. - Dangerous as it is, and all the stuff. But, it's pan is clean. - Chris, Ireland? - Really, you wouldn't go to Taiwan? - So I can fight China, no, thank you. - Oh, okay. - No, that's coming up. - Alex, we know you're going to Spain. - Where you going, bro? - We're going to Spain or Japan, you know? - Spain is nice. - Spain, I got Spain's out there. - Yeah, man. (laughing) - All right. - It's all right. - It's my big, we're going to Spain. - Hey man, make sure y'all watch the drop on FX. Every Tuesday. - Yes sir. - On the west, six o'clock. If you watchin' on FX, six o'clock. - No, that never has seen no more. - I would've came home yesterday and six here. - You guys are going to stream it. Just stream it on homeless, don't watch it. - I watch the episodes right now. And then just keep watchin' as they come out 'cause it drops every week. But you guys are going to all stream it on Hulu or FX wherever you get you. - I know you're going to be in the first episode. I watched, I thought I was going to have to catch a couple of episodes where I see GG in the first episode. - It went from me not acting at all to being the first thing you see after you see wandered. - Yeah, yeah. - I was like, that is crazy. But I'm shout out to Payton, shout out to Michael T. Shout out to all the people that really taught me some fundamental things about acting that made it a lot more comfortable. I might then learn, I learned a lot about writing but I was closer, consulting was easy. Acting was the one thing I got to benefit of doing and learn from some really good professional people. Shout out to him, Payton, Michael T. Mercedes, a couple of writers in the room. They was all really gracious and teaching you about acting. It's like a family, I ain't got a lot. - Go watch the drop on Hulu, FX, Disney Plus. All of those great platforms, man. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast, I think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit. You're right, too. It's the brilliant of this podcast. Thank you for listening. - Peace.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The podcast features a lively discussion about the cultural origins of hip-hop, highlighting key figures like Michael Jackson, who was influenced by dancers such as Bob Fawsey and Jackie Wilson.
The conversation explores the idea that being a "Crip" is not just a label tied to gangs but a cultural identity shaped by neighborhood upbringing and shared experiences.
Diddy is the focus of a controversial segment discussing alleged privileges in federal prison, including access to cell phones, massages, and alcohol, with claims of contraband use and drug consumption.
The hosts debate the authenticity and legacy of Michael Jackson’s dance moves, emphasizing that his innovations were rooted in learning from and building upon the work of earlier choreographers.
A central theme is the importance of studying and learning from great artists, with references to Michael Jackson, Tag9, and the influence of cultural exchange in shaping artistic expression.
The discussion includes a critical look at Diddy’s behavior and public image, with concerns about his lifestyle choices and whether they reflect genuine personal growth or escapism.
The podcast touches on a viral story involving a transgender woman and a public figure, Adrian Brown, leading to debate about identity, perception, and the challenges of real-world progress.
The hosts also reflect on the enduring cultural significance of 1990s West Coast hip-hop, crediting artists like Easy, Dr. Dre, and Snoop Dogg for shaping a global music movement through collaboration and innovation.
Summary:
The podcast features a dynamic, often humorous, and deeply cultural conversation centered on the roots of hip-hop and the influence of key artists like Michael Jackson and Diddy. The discussion begins with a celebration of dance history, tracing Michael Jackson’s moves to early choreographers like Bob Fawsey and Jackie Wilson, emphasizing cultural exchange and mentorship as key to artistic evolution. It then shifts to a controversial segment about Diddy’s alleged privileges in federal prison, including access to cell phones, alcohol, and personal services, sparking debate on ethics, privilege, and rehabilitation.
The hosts explore how identity and cultural labels—such as “Crip” or being a gang member—develop from lived experiences rather than rigid definitions. A significant portion of the dialogue focuses on the legacy of 1990s West Coast hip-hop, crediting artists like Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, and Warren G for shaping the genre through collaboration and innovation.
The conversation also touches on real-world issues, such as a viral incident involving a transgender woman and a public figure, and the importance of personal accountability and growth. Ultimately, the podcast underscores the value of learning from great artists, the complexity of cultural identity, and the ongoing relevance of past eras in shaping today’s music and society. The tone remains playful and reflective, blending entertainment with thoughtful commentary on social, cultural, and personal dimensions.
FAQs
The term 'Crip' refers to a cultural and neighborhood identity, often rooted in upbringing in specific communities. Someone can be considered a Crip based on growing up in a neighborhood where Crips are prevalent, not necessarily through a formal process or certification.
Being a Crip is primarily tied to neighborhood background and cultural identity rather than ethnicity. It's not a fixed ethnic classification but a cultural affiliation that develops over time through shared experiences and community ties.
Artists like Nelly, Jay-Z, and Killa Mike are often recognized as being from Crip communities. Their connection to the culture is based on their upbringing and interactions within those environments.
Yes, Michael Jackson was influenced by dancers like Bob Fawsey, a choreographer with strong ties to Crip and street dance traditions. His iconic moves were shaped by studying and learning from various street dance pioneers.
Mexican breakfast is a dance move popularized by Bob Fawsey, known for its energetic and distinctive style. It became a significant influence in Michael Jackson's choreography and is associated with the broader street dance history of the 1970s and 1980s.
No, Michael Jackson did not invent the moonwalk. The move was inspired by earlier street dance forms, and choreographer Bill Belly is credited with developing a similar step that preceded Jackson's version.
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