The Dirty War in Argentina | History Hyenas

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I am in Portland, Maine at Empire Comedy Club, and then in October, I'm at Governor's Comedy Club in Long Island, and I got a bunch more dates up there for October. November, christycomedy.com. I'm doing my Saturday shows at 4 and 6.30, and it feels good. Also, patreon.com slash historyhyenas. Go over there if you don't like ads, if you don't like censorship, if you want an all-in-one place to get our weekly episodes and our bonus episodes, which is two episodes a week, go join right now. What's up, everybody? Welcome to another episode of History Hyenas. Today, we have a wild episode. We're going to be talking to you about a little dark. We're kind of weird. working together to they wanted to clean they were doing a little cleaning of the commies it's what it is that's what they were doing because you think because you know it's easy to think like oh latinos like communism because you think of fatale castro but most of them did not they're they're catholic kids that want capitalism yeah it was mixed it was definitely mixed but um i'll eat that second piece of banana bread guy yeah like we usually have we have our props up here i always got my zim we got our dr f and then we always just have a rip we have a spare sweet yeah we just got a spare sweet and this is banana bread i've already eaten a full loaf yeah it's just been a spare a spare sweet um you know we'll do it again because we're going out to dinner after this i won't take no for an answer and we're not going to go to the greek place that we went to two weeks ago because it smelled like cat litter it was just gross and i built in a nice cushion because i've told my family that i have a doctor's appointment at 7 p.m which is a lie that was a good one though it's at four and i said the doctor pushed it back to seven so i'm going to go to the greek place and i'm going to go to the greek place and i'm going to go to i you know i've just bought myself some time that's a good one so we had obviously cuba in 1959 with fidel castro overthrows batista um and you know nick just went pure because it sounds like a wrestling match and you have to remember the thing they don't teach us in our schools and it's very you know my education it was always from the left it really always if i honestly say it's always from like the left we're being taught from the from the left point of view the left right because these revolutions were violent they were violent revolutions um so 1959 you had fidel castro that we all know about that 1960s venezuela the armed forces the natural liberation they wage an insurgency simeon bolivar we talked about him a lot the 1960s hits guatemala uh with the left-wing guerrillas being fighting against the government that led to decades of civil war then you had colombia then you had peru then you had uruguay in the late 60s and early 70s and then we get to the dirty war and then we get to the dirty war and then we get to the dirty war and in the late 60s to 1976 it was a long period um between um the left-wing guerrilla organizations called the monto montoneros the montoneros and the people's revolutionary army known as the erp it's the erp yeah the nicaraguan revolution nicaraguan revolution nicaraguan revolution i said it three times with no slip ups nick yeah that was that was 1979 so that was after argentina so it was just a long period of time and i think it's a long period of time and i think it's a long period of time and i think it's a long period of time and i think it's a long period of time and happening in every country why and what was it why did the why would the latinos they were going a little nuts down there and what happened why did they explode it was ideology it was like this whole like oh they're being split multinationals are exploiting us you know there's some truth to it sure uh inequality labor unions yeah you guys are going to pay full price for these avocados yeah basically it's all you know these people movies populist left-wing movements it's still happening we're happening in new york city so um but these revolutions so um but these revolutions we're happening in new york city so um but these revolutions right so what we're going to talk about everyone always talks about the dirty war but there was a war before the dirty war whoa there was the war before the dirty war was not everybody talks about the dirty war i've never talked about the dirty war or heard of it i like to talk about dirty dancing yeah because we're a couple of like uninformed stupid kids we are the chat gpt sluts yes but amongst historians and amongst people who are educated the dirty war is a known thing a big thing it's a big thing um had you heard of the dirty war before in argentina i mean i heard about it but never from school right yeah you learned about it through what just south america just south america when yeah and and we're going to get to you because i know you have some some feelings on uruguayan right i'm uruguayan and chilean right both countries actually right now doing very well oh yeah yeah oh yeah the right is doing so good chile is also geographically where argentina is it's winter there right now right yeah right yeah it takes a long time to get there right it's not a fun flight and and and you go from the southernmost part of chile is where you go take a boat to antarctica they're close to antarctica i've done that yeah you've done you've been to antarctica not antarctica but i've been like all the way like south i've been to the edge of the world baby wait but you've been all the way to southern chile where it's like is it freezing down there the whole year i don't really remember it i remember a boat they remember there's a lot of snow but yeah interesting yeah and which one of those is chile is the white one it's mostly white uruguay's pretty white but argentina is like the world champions of white but there's one other that's mostly white too it's either chile or uruguay's pretty white but some of the players on the argentinian world cup soccer team look like indigenous like mixed mexicans mixed a little bit yeah but they're still the white just peaks out a lot uruguay has a little more like like uruguay will have like one black guy you know what i mean like argentina won't have any so like i know spain is like the you know they look at themselves like the king of the spaniards do they look down upon argentina people from spain or do they look at them as equals i think they like argentina because you know they're like europe yeah you're they're the most european centric yeah they look down on like uruguay there's been more of a movement in spain to be like hey south america and latin america should be thankful for what everything that we did for them and stuff and got it it's bullshit it's bullshit yeah so uruguay is almost 90 white too wow chile is only 30 white but chile's got the best i think economy now in south america and what is it from the highest gdp growth i think chile's got the best are they selling like things for computers and stuff down there is that their industry they're selling like things for computers and stuff down there is that their industry we're gonna find out when we look it up when we we are gpt sluts we're gonna yeah uh well actually i'm wrong but no i think chile's per capita doing the best but obviously brazil is a massive country so but argentina is second with 688 billion gdp yeah but chile per capita i think they're doing the best they got they're ranked fourth overall um they got a 407 billion guy we have to go to argentina and i have to go to colombia i'm not gonna let my wife stop me i want to go see colombia history there i want to go to colombia yeah and i want to go with the boys so these groups right the montaneros and the erp right initiated the violence so they started carrying out bombings assassinations kidnappings they were doing bank robberies they were kidnapped bankers right um they were riots protests they attacked the military they attacked the police um and then that and then the that escalated the violence and then the retreat the retaliation from the government to keep order and a lot of the population was for it just because they didn't like the disorder right they just wanted law and order the law and order folks yeah we're kind of supporting it but then the government went by all accounts way overboard right and started going a little nuts so um the early 1970s was just a very turbulent in argentina right and um then the military coup there was a military coup in 1970 the president's name by the way his name he's a guy's name was isabel isabel isabel put on but his guy's name was isabel yeah yo isabella get over here so isabel perrone she was a chick she was she was a chick i am sorry i thought it was a guy but she was the widow of the other perrone one yeah okay but she okay so so in other words so there's your problem right you know it was that was too early to have a woman as president too early too early in the game so that's gonna cause conflict yeah so they overthrew her so it was a the colonels over there just took over for stability and um uh so but the perrone government had already begun this violent crackdown you're making me want a perrone yeah yeah good italian beer do you want to get do you want to get a little sauced up today and have your car drive us home that would be really good have our car drive us home let's get really so i like a day time let's go to a day party because i want to get a little sauced with you let's get fucking sauced up i'm not kidding guy even though you know i know we're gonna get bent you want to get tilted i want to get an apple spritz so um the crackdown had started and then the military takes over and that that's what we get to these right-wing death squads where they're going around they were known as the argentine anti-communist alliance which was triple a which you know if you get triple a if you call the wrong triple a if you got a flat on the side of the highway you call triple a there's a good chance that the death squad's gonna show up in argentina don't call triple a in buenos aires no you don't want to call triple a about as well as so what did you i don't know what you just called it but that's good what did i call you just sunday i don't know you just you know you said you don't want to call triple a in venice you just made sounds yeah because i sounded kind of like buenos aires i think i just exposed the fact that i never really i don't really identify all these different people but they're all different they're all different they're not all mexicans which is surprising to me they're not including all mexicans no and then and then by the way the leader of the 1976 coup was general jorge rafael rafael videla and he sounds like a var ref for the world cup i'm wanting to see him going like this this is a paid advertisement from rumble wallet because i needed a new wallet and so what i did is i went with our sponsor today they got great wallets i'm talking about rumble wall because rumble wallet is cute with rumble wallet you can even buy bitcoin hold dollar back stable coins own digital gold back stable gold back stable gold back stable gold back stable gold back stable back by real gold all in one place it's a non-custodial crypto wallet which means you not a bank or platform control access to your funds because i like walking around my rumble wallet in the rambles everybody's got to have a digital wallet get your rumble wallet you can do all that setup is simple it connects with moon pay so you can use your debit 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Yeah, because it extended, the repression from the government extended past the guerrillas to, like, students and unions. And then it became a little bit of what you call a little McCarthyism. Right. It was like, are you in the room? Were you in the room? Were you at the UFC fight just watching? Yeah, then you're out of here. Then you're out of here. It became like that. It was sort of like affiliation. Affiliation, who are you? Right. Like, what's your reputation? Right. And so the military started illegally detaining, tortured. And what year are you up to right now? Because 1976 coup. Because 76 to 81, did we get to the one thing that really disturbed me is when they started stealing kids. Yeah, they started doing that. And they called it Las Desparacitos, the disappeared, they just started taking, kidnapping kids. Yeah, well, what they were doing is they were putting them in planes and dumping them in the ocean. So that's what they were doing. Kids, they were doing that. They were doing that to them. Why were they doing that to them? They were doing that to all families. They were throwing them out of planes in the middle of the ocean? They were throwing them right out into the ocean so the bodies just disappear. Would they kill them first or they threw them alive into the ocean? I'm not privy to that. I don't know if they were alive or dead, but I think they were probably alive because why would you kill them if you're going to kill them twice? This is one of these situations where I just realized I have cum in my pocket. Can the camera see it? Yeah, it's just one of those situations where I just realized at some point I came in my pocket. And it's just what it is. And it's right there. And yep. And I just, it's just what it is sometimes. No, I'm a little bit of a disturbed, tilted bird. You are fucking tilted bird. And I came in my pocket and I, I guess weeks ago and I just put my shorts on. Yeah. I mean, look, they probably told them they were going skydiving and then said, whoopsie, we forgot the equipment. It's what it is. That's probably how they did it. Yeah. And so it's not good that they did that. And just know that whatever country. You're mad at right now. Every country at some point in history was bad, bad, bad. Yeah. It was really bad. And it's not all the Estados Unidos. I mean, there's like thousands and thousands, like looking back, historians say there's thousands and thousands and thousands of people that just disappeared. I mean, maybe up to 30,000 or something. And then some people probably like weren't killed. They were just raised. They were babies. They don't even realize that that's not their family. Yeah. That also happened. I'm sure it did. Yeah. Cause remember when I was leaning back and I fell off the chair. I remember when the leg of the chair, that was wild. I don't know why I was thinking about that. Yeah. And so from 76 to 81, that's where it really, it really had 300 clandestine detention centers. Victims were abducted in unmarked cars, stripped illegal rights, tortured, you know, the military drug captives threw them from airplanes, the whole, they, they use, they use the multi-pronged approach. Yeah. They got a little cruel with it. And then we come into, you know, you had the fall of the junta, which was the economic collapse. Um, great Britain defeated them in 1982 Falcons war. And then we go on to operation Condor, Argentina's dictatorship partnered with, um, basically the U S so basically we just got involved. So operation, yeah, the U S was always backing, um, all these hunters. Um, and what is a hunt? The hunt is just a takeover from the military. Yeah. But I'm going to call people hunters today. I'm going to say you're acting like a hunter. Yeah. And so, uh, operation Condor was this sort of. Operation between all these right wing, um, governments in, um, South America. So they were all cooperating with Chile, Uruguay, Brazil, Argentina. Yeah. All kind of on the same side, which some people would say the bad side. Yeah. So if somebody escaped to Brazil, you call up your guy and go, that's, is he going on your plane or my plane? It's what it is. So that's all we need to know is which one, which planes are we using to dump these people. Right. And so they were unfortunately. Tracking down, uh, across borders, um, to, you know, political exiles, they were trying to kill everybody. It just wasn't good. Yeah. And then the stolen babies, pregnant captives were kept alive only until they gave birth. The Hunter system, the Hunter systematically stole estimated 500 babies born in secret prisons, illegally placing them with military families or regime sympathizers while murdering the biological mothers. Yes. So in other words, they wanted, because they wanted to raise these babies to be like warriors for them. And they got rid of them. The Madre's. They wanted to raise them as genocide. Revolutionaries. Yeah. I don't love that. It got a little carried away. Um, you know, but also the violence continued. So there's, you know, these are revolutionaries. These were guerrilla fighters that continued to fight. So there was, you know, so this was a reaction. Cause what if my next door neighbor this whole time is a Hunter? Could be. Could my next door neighbor be a Hunter? Could be. Should I go visit my mind, ask him and say, Hey, listen to me. Are you, are you a Hunter? Yeah. Yeah. It could be. It could be. Right. Anytime you meet an Argentinian, you just kind of want to. You just want to know what the family history is. Yeah. Cause it could be a Hunter. It could be something. And there probably is. They're Jehovah's Witnesses. They're not even Catholics. So cause that, is that Hunter? No, that's more of a religion. Right. Right. That's some branch of Christianity that I don't know too much about. They're Hunter's Witnesses. I just know they like to knock on doors. Yeah. And then that's when you hit the deck. Yeah. And they asked, they tried to convert my mom when she first moved in. And Lynn, that's the one thing Lynn will get catty about is do not try to take her away from Jesus. Don't do it. Well, the Catholicism. Do not. Right. Cause the Jehovah's Witnesses believe in Jesus. You know, when I was in college, the Mormons knocked on my door and I let them in. Cause I was curious. I also went into a Scientology thing and I did the audit cause I was curious. Right. Yeah. I've done them all. Can I ask you another question too? Cause we talked about an incident I've had with a neighbor on the Patreon. So go listen to that. But let me just quickly, suburban thing. I keep getting this pest company. Cause first of all, you know, on this show, we only deal with pesty. We love pesty and use the promo code hyenas. And I'm not talking about bugs. Right. Right. I'm talking about. I got this pest company. I forgot what they're called, but twice now they've rang my bell and try to get me to go with their company. And the first time I allowed it, but the second time I was going out the door, like with my kids and they were like, Hey, they have these pictures of these bugs. And they were like, you know, does this look like bugs you see on your property? Blah, blah, blah. And I just said, look, I don't have the time right now. And it was a girl. She was like a 20 something year old girl. And she wouldn't let me go. Like my daughter's like, dad, we got to go out to get them to camp or whatever. So I finally said, I said, I said, hon, I'm sorry. I'm not shutting the door on your face, but like, I'm not doing this right now. And then she's like, well, you don't have to be a dick about it. And I was like, what? You rang my bell and trying to take my time when I don't have any, how am I a dick? Right? Like, what would you do in that situation? If somebody's trying to ring your doorbell and sell you something? First of all, I think I understand sales tactics, but please don't ring my bell and try to sell me something. Yeah. There's a lot of people crossing the line where you live. What is going on? I don't know. Yeah. If somebody, right. There was one time. Yeah. Like the real estate people. If you don't. Yeah. I mean, one time a banker rang my bell. Really? Yeah. I think you were there, Jesse. Or in Brooklyn, this is. This was way back in Brooklyn. Because nobody's ringing your bell where you live now. No, no, no. But I think this was in Brooklyn for business. He was like ringing my bell because I wasn't responding to like. That's a lot. They constantly ask you like, hey, invest with us, invest. I'm like, God, I got my own guy. Well, let me ask you a question. Did he have anything in common with half of Jesse? No. Interesting. No, no. - Wow. he had more in common with godfrey wow that's interesting yeah yeah and and you know what i was a little karen i called chase and i was like what this is not okay yeah and they were like that's not supposed to happen right yeah you're not supposed to do that and i had to do that because that is way over the line yeah way i understand you're aggressive you're trying to get business or whatever but like you know what i mean yeah there's a limit guy yeah there's a limit guy don't ring my bell yeah so argentina had experienced repeated coups right they did i like saying argentina but you could say argentina argentina and the banning argentiner peronism economic instability and intense conflict between workers students the armed force and the political elite is kind of what started this whole dirty dirty bird yeah it's a dirty bird um and by the way i just want to say mothers and grandmothers of the plaza de mayo in 1997 brave mothers began marching in buenos aires wearing white head scarves to demand the return of their missing children the grandmothers of plaza de mayo later created a national genetic data bank to identify and reunite stolen babies now adults with their real biological families so good for you grandmothers of plaza de mayo and i learned that plaza de mayo they had a little bit of a civil war and argentinian citizens started bombing their own plaza so argentinas will throw bombs at you yeah this is so crazy this is very similar to like what the ottomans did with the janissaries it's very wild so they took these babies and just well hun they had it look in 1985 they had the trial of the juntas that was the first civilian court uh like big crimes trial that they did since nuremberg yeah and they convicted top military leaders like general verdea yeah so that so we may not know about it that much in our but this is huge part of history in argentina and maybe that's why my neighbor wound up next to me that's possible i gotta ask him if he left because of the try of the hunt doesn't it's your junta or you could just go over his house and ask to go to the bathroom and then sneak around the basement and see if you find it oh they always keep their old souvenirs in an old tin box who and if you open it argentinian people old junta or nazis they always got a tin box full that they hide under the floorboards where they're just you'll get there it's probably his old uniform you know he puts it on when he gets drunk in the basement yeah remembers the glory years yeah yeah stuff like that you should go in his basement yeah you gotta snoop around there i gotta take a sniff around yeah move some floorboards see if you see if anything moves yeah there's any hunters down there yeah that's what you always you ever hear those stories about the nazis they always got like a box somewhere in the basement that gets uncovered and it's just like all the his paraphernalia just him with a picture of hitler just like you know yeah just like you know he was an officer with hitler yeah when i think when you were really in with hitler you just you could do that one took a little yeah i think like i don't have to go all the way yeah i think the full one was for people you think like when you're really with hillary you once he was like there is no need there's no you don't have to just you're in this circle this was his circle of trust now we got wind but did somebody turn on a fan because all of a sudden wind is going and we started is that the ghost of the nazis no i think chris italian just got up from his chair just got up from his chair he just farted so it's just what it is pushes the air around a little bit so i think you might see a suction device it's just a banana bread just going through the bed so before the dirty war like i said there was repeated military coups it was really unstable you know juan peron had been overthrown in before in 1955 and he was in exile but his peronism as they called it his working class kind of you know governance continued to dominate politics and the deciding point turned um was cordobazo of may 1969 which was a huge worker and student uprising in cordoba cordoba in cordoba against the military it was uh it wasn't like a communist revolution but it convinced many young radicals that the dictatorship was vulnerable and that mass revolt could become armed revolution and then the montaneros formed and that's when they started um they were they started bombing shit and they you know they many of them came from catholic nationalists and university backgrounds and they believed peron could become the symbolic leader of a socialist anti-imperialist revolution they announced themselves dramatically in 1970 by kidnapping and executing former president general pedro eugenio aramburu who that's wild they executed their own president an ex-president yeah that's kind of nuts yeah former president who they blamed for repression after 1955 anti-peron that could ever happen here like could we ever lose it they tried i mean remember they tried no but this is like a public execution what they did in argentina yeah well they tried to publicly execute trump you know i'm talking about like this is like a like the people just like did it like it could happen overthrew him yeah it could happen if you have allies like in the military or something it just feels so foreign for it to happen like but i wonder if that's what it feels like in every country when it eventually happens yeah i mean what they started doing is kidnapping for ransom and political leverage they started assassinating military police business figures bombings and armed robberies everywhere attacks on barracks and police stations uh political organization and universities neighborhoods and unions so this is what set the stage for the backlash that became the dirty war um and you never hear about that like it didn't happen in a vacuum right so the violence from the radicals from the left wing radicals is what initiated this backlash right and so there's a constant fight you know between these two during this time it's still going today right so i mean you know we're kind of living through it so i don't think we identify it as much but how many attempts have there been on president trump three i think i think three one in the white house but but it was stopped by o's perlman charlie kirk was assassinated he was assassinated publicly um and they you know they've all been by left-wing you know revolutionaries right for all intents and purposes i'm not saying anything besides the facts next i'm just letting you know what's going on so and i'm bringing it up because you're going like is this bubbling again like here guy you got bugs i got bugs where i live and that's why i use pesty they get rid of over 100 types of bugs from spiders and ants to roaches and scorpions pesty is kid and pet friendly i got kids i got pets the pesticides they ship are fully registered and have been used in 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matter what uh if military any wars black people were always sent off to the front first so it was a very conscious effort to make argentina as white as possible that's why it is it's that's why the nazis possibly weren't there that's exactly why it is yeah yeah yeah it was called a blank game yeah the whitening the whitening or 19th century state policy yeah and elites encourage mass european immigration while marginalizing displacing and statistically erasing indigenous and afro argentine populations oh was the natives of argentina where they more dark-skinned yeah we were all everybody was mixed back in the day and uh because how did argentina become like did spain conquer that too is that why they speak spanish yeah but but before that it just looked like indigenous people they were just well mestizos yeah we're all like indian looking like nick yeah and they were like uh you know probably not a formed government or maybe they had one i don't know because i know like in mexico i didn't realize people had pants on the other group people had leaves on it's what it is i'm not trying to explain it in an easy way yeah yeah and we talked about how bolivar was the one who tried to yeah he tried to say let the guys with the pants just figure something out yeah let the guy yeah so so that's interesting yeah it's interesting because yeah so that's no bueno they did so argentina's got a assorted past right they explain us how they mean nick fresh airs because it's so high up no just it's nice it's fresh air it's beautiful have you got a lot of turbulence i think only on layover but yeah right not a lot of turbulence and so argentina right now has not very many um non-whites right 90 90 soccer team is what they look like basically 90 white like uruguay or guys 90 white one of their best players outside messy isn't his last name like mcallister yeah his name's like kevin mcallister yeah yeah yeah what's he that guy is wild his last name is mcallister yeah yeah there's you know there's people with when i first went to chile my cousin introduced me to his friend he's like oh his name is nicolas also nicolas brenner and i was like what the and he looked like white german but he's from argentina he's from chile yeah i think they also got a lot of immigrants from the levant right too so levant levant is like the middle east right jess yeah i mean it's a white i mean look at it's a white team they're all white they got like a little bit of spanish flavor but they look like and they invented tango everybody thinks spain invented tango but argentina invented tango wow really do you know any of the history of that just that's it okay robert duvall did a movie about it where he goes to argentina undercover as like a spy but then he becomes like a tango dancer or something i don't know sounds like a horrific movie yeah yeah because i mean what made you go about the dirty war of argentina was it just because you don't want them to win the world cup i do want them to win the world cup because everyone hates them so i think it's funny right because uh if you watch a compilation of lionel messi goals you're watching something i mean dude go on the internet for yourself i mean the guy is unbelievable i mean well he's the same size as the ball i mean listen i mean the guy's unbelievable does he get favorable treatment probably but what what did jordan get favorable treatment the stars they want the stars on the field it's good for business it's good for the fans i mean i don't know what to tell you i mean that you know when that sweden when that swiss guy was playing what are you supposed to do he and then he rolled around three times like he was hurt and then you watched the replay nobody touched him technically he had a yellow card so technically you're supposed to get a yellow card for that so that means you get a red card and bolo so it's like what are you supposed to do are you supposed to break the rules then because you don't want people to say that argentina has the advantage i mean what are you supposed to do yeah i mean the kid rolled around i mean he was it was a stupid move it wasn't he was in the midfield there was no consequences for that very quick i don't even know why he fucking did it and he had a yellow why would he risk a yellow card i mean he was in the midfield there was no consequences for that dive especially the var i mean it's like you know what i mean he's it would have been a yellow on the other guy so of course they're gonna var and if the guy says i didn't touch him so it was just the guy who did it just wasn't thinking do you think the backups for argentina could beat the best players on team usa most likely probably right yeah i mean it's just wild they're just a lot better they're really good at it they're really really good at it but they they have the dirty war history and they're a little bit of a dirty team yeah so after perrone is in exile he returns in 73 they were they restored elections and then perrone's proxy hector camporo one political prisoners were released and perrone returned after almost 18 years in exile so the left wing's like we got this perrone came back he came back but uh a revolutionary left represented by the montaneros and radical youth um was hostile was a hostile faction conservative trade union leaders were a hostile faction wing peronists were a faction police and security linked anti-communist so it wasn't all unified just like now the democratic party's not all unified there was infighting and there was conservative there was sure there was a bunch of people who didn't like him the same thing and so then we had a big we said nothing's really that different like we said on the patreon nothing's really that different than a thousand years ago it's the same thing it just recycles it's like equality people want more enjoy the ride and then it gets stagnant uh or then you go uh right wing and then it becomes inequality it's like you stagnate stagnation or inequality they're both gonna happen so then the internal war became visible at the ezia massacre on june 20th 1973 when white right wing peronist gutman fired on left wing peronists gathered to welcome peron home so you had these right wing peronists and they were left everyone loved peron they started killing each other killing each other gathered to welcome peron home numerous people were killed or so that's the way it started but let me know who's gonna get dirty let me ask you this that's also a personality trait how we said on the patreon that like certain bad eggs certain bad apples just make it hard for everyone else i've never once been galvanized or moved enough to protest for anything would it be better if more people were like me or do we need balance we need some people to go out there and protest and start shooting people yeah i think it would depend i mean i don't know i mean i just don't want to do that i don't care slavery i think it's good to to uh to um protest you know like if slavery that was probably a good protest that was a good protest but i think during the time if i was alive during that i still just wouldn't get up and i know i know i know yeah i just don't i don't have the energy i don't want to do it i don't either i mean i just don't want to do it i don't want to stand out there with a sign i don't even want to go to a nightclub let alone a street park like like i just feel like like even in soccer when i watch them like complain to the ref it's like what is the complaining going to do the guy made the call already it's not going to change anything right like some people got to get out of their own way it's like what do you mean like you're going to call the you're going to negotiate with like the bill and the bill and the bill that you owe it's like you owe the money yeah just shut up you know i think from just an outsider's perspective like you know little alex de tocqueville here on argentina and all of soccer and this whole controversy alex de tocqueville alex de tocqueville was a french guy who came up to the america and he wrote about america and because he had a little bit of an outsider status he was able to shine the light on us in a way that we couldn't ourselves that's right i like that that's like trevor noah yeah yes exactly yes yes sort of like john oliver you know just come shine a light on me shine a light on me from outside so you're not you you know you're not blinded by some of the blind spots that you have you're inside it's like whoa let me notice all these things because if the fact that you know who alexis de tocqueville is means you are one thing and one thing only that is g-a-y he wrote a very famous thing called democracy in america yeah i've never heard of it so just to do that a little bit yeah what is it about soccer tell me you either got to go full blown we're going to get these calls right or you got to get rid of the thing all together and let that soccer culture and momentum thing just go get rid of the hydration breaks do it the way they did it where a goal with the hand counts whatever it is if the ref sees that he does if he doesn't either go that way and keep it like that's how soccer is there's a human element to it yeah or go full blown we're like we're gonna get every call we're gonna try to get the calls right right well but i i they're in a middle ground right now some sort of middle ground why don't they do something like where you get a challenge like we do like you know you're gonna get a you can challenge a call if you get it right you don't lose it if you get it wrong you lose it right you know so it's like it's not so much on the ref to call the ver it's on the team to call it because now the ref's taking the fucking i feel bad for the refs because the refs are going like yeah or we're gonna get killed one day right yeah for sure like because they get so angry at these refs yeah and i've watched these calls and they're they're accusing these refs of all this shit and i'm going like i'm seeing all these compilations of calls from the other team that's claiming that they got fucked and i'm watching them get away with shit so i'm going like soccer is just a really hard game to ref right it's so physical it's so violent they bang into each other they kick each other you can't tell if it's intended or if the guy was going for the ball so it's like what they should do is give both teams like three or four challenges per match and if you feel like you want to var it var it so the whole world i like that and then it's like let everything else go i like it so it's like the ref decided to call back that goal on norway right so then it's on him as it turns out erling did push the guy with two hands and he fell it's a foul but he didn't call he didn't see it so if he didn't call it would have had to have been on norway to i think it would be better if norway said i i mean i'm sorry uh england to challenge yeah i agree with that that would make it that would take the pressure off the ref who already has a very difficult job nobody cares about the refs nobody cares about the ref what about the rat and i will say the refs for world cup soccer are more jacked than every other ref i mean those guys are jacked yeah yeah yeah they're really you have to you got i mean a a zin you got to get a zin and why is there only one ref on the field i understand there's guys multiple refs on the field there's only one ref on the field and then there's sideline refs who can call fouls and they check with each other but it's like can we get a little fucking american efficiency in this fucking sport i'm done with your fucking european drama and like this is my perspective and you yell about it in coffee shops then you murder a fucking soccer player just can we get some fucking american efficiency here get the replay in yeah let's just do it let's just do it like let's just do it okay what does de toqueville say what did de toqueville say about it say about it by the way juan peron just died nobody killed him recently no the guy we're talking about oh just nobody killed him that's nice peron took over just because he fucking died yeah he just that hey listen the kid just died and listen he was a left he was a kid who who sided with the trade union establishment and the peron peronist right what does that even mean i don't know he denounced the montaneros during a rally in plaza de mayo and their supporters "I guess so they hated him too." Why did they hate him? He figured he was not left enough. That's the thing with the left is you can never be left enough. He can never fucking be left enough. So if my saying is to the left is you can never be left enough, so leave me out. Yeah, but also they started doing the bad stuff because she was politically weak and heavily steered. Weiss on sheen. Sometimes you just want to simplify it. It's that's why everybody knows it. A lot of 14 was no lot of 14. Sometimes you want to simplify, right? Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes it's just too much reading. Isabel Peron. Weiss on sheen. So she she was influenced by her advisor, Jose Lopez Riga, and he was closely associated with the anti-communist alliance known as the Triple A. Like we said, and that that squad was connected to sectors of police government and the Peronist right. So it was just a big mess. I mean, Argentina sounds like it was a massive mess. And then Triple A, they started assassinating left wing politicians. They bombed offices at home. They threatened intellectuals, performers and journalists. They abducted and murdered suspected radicals. So it was just this violence and then reaction violence and then back and forth, back and forth. And a U.S. diplomat described left wing terrorism as emerging around 1969 and right wing counter terrorism became organized with the Triple A in 1974. So it took about five years for the government to go, all right, now we're going to see your terrorism and we're going to do do worse. Yeah. It's what it is. It's what it is. And that's just what happens, guy. And I realize that the Patreon at Patreon dot com slash history. Hyenas has probably went down a few bucks because we have forgotten to give them a twenty five dollar episode. We got to do that for months. We got to do that. So that's just can we just meet one extra day a month and do that? We're going to meet one extra day a month and start giving the twenty fives what they deserve. And we're also going to start doing live shows again because we've just been forgetting to do that. Let's do that. We've had summer brain and we've been sundowning and we just want to let you guys know that we are aware. Yes. And before there is another Aziza massacre on us, we will start to give, you know, we're doing really good with the five and tens at Patreon dot com slash history. Hyenas, you're missing a lot of content. If you don't join there, fives and tens are fully loaded. We give a lot of extra content there. It is well worth it. And twenty five dollars are worth it. We will catch up. You know, it's just want to say what's interesting about this Peron guy, just because you're probably sitting there thinking, was he left wing? Was he right wing? It's very interesting. You know, he was like by today's standards, he was economically left leaning, but he was a nationalist. Right. He was a strong Argentinian nationalist socially and politically. He was kind of authoritarian, which that's. That's not a he looks like a white guy, but he was also he was not left enough. Like we joked about, he was he attracted many left wing supporters, but he himself was not a communist and opposed orthodox Marxism. So they called it a big tent. So they say one reason Argentina became so divided is that Peronianism became a big tent with a lot of different factions underneath it. So it was just inevitable that this big tent was going to percolate and just become a bug, big. It was a big yeast infection. Well, he was. And then we got Nick who came to the United States. Well, Nick came to the United States. And my knee hurts. Can you feel it and see if something's wrong with it? Yeah. I had to quit boxing because it started. I started having pain in my knee. Where? In the front, on the side? Under, on the bottom of the kneecap. On the bottom of the kneecap. That's a little thing called tendinitis. You're going to have to ice it. You're going to have to keep it elevated. You're going to have to take a couple of Advils a day for about a week. Is there a peptide I can shoot right into it? It's a little thing called BPC-157. I want you to inject it right into me. I want to do it. I've been off peptides for the past six weeks, but make no mistake, I'm going back. And I'm going to Ireland on Thursday, Guy. For what? Because my friend's getting married out there, so I'm going to Ireland from Thursday, and I'll be back Monday. Oh, shit. I forgot I won't be here on Monday. I forgot about that. So we're going to have to meet another day this week. You know what I like? And I'm leaving Thursday, Guy. So we're going to have to meet Wednesday. We're going to have to go to Bay Ridge. You know what I like about you, too, guys? Is when you come back from Ireland, you're going to come back fully committed Irish. 100,000%. You're dead shit. You're going to go through an Irish phase now. Because I'm going to come back like a baked potato. Yeah, because you're going to go to Ireland, and you're going to get into it. Because make zero mistake, on your DNA, I think you had about 30% Irish. Big time. Oh, yeah. Can you guys meet Wednesday? I think we're going to have to. Yeah, I don't. I can. Can you, Jesse? I got to do fucking New Brunswick, New Jersey with fucking Vinny the Deaf. On Thursday? On fucking this week. And I don't want to do it. Vinny the Deaf is a funny thing to call him. Because he can't hear anymore, right? He can't hear anymore. And that's the good thing. You can make fun of Vinny Brandt because he can't hear the podcast. Yeah, see me in New Brunswick, New Jersey at the Stress Factory this weekend. All right, guys. Go to patreon.com slash historyinears where all the fun happens. As always, at the end of every single episode, we like to read out the names of the newest members. And we give the funniest name, the PPW, the Pseudo-Penis of the Week. So here are the newest members. Welcome to the matriarchy. Black and Chinese, call it Wei-Shan Chen. Okay? Good try. Lost fingers on the fourth, but I can still fist. Put them on the list. That's good. And there's a lot of truth to that. Yeah, that's very funny. John. Because technically, you can't. Yeah. Throat so loose, I eat hot dogs without chewing. There you go. There you go. Then we got Giannis drops acid to open his second eye. We're going to put that on the list. There it is. Yeah. Then we got He Is Steve-Land. Okay? Okay. Father Bill told me no thanks. What's wrong with me? Crystal Barda. Those Father Bills just, they persist. They're there. Just like Hillary Clinton, she persists. Persists. Smelly fingers. How you doing, chicken finger? Johan Cav. The one not mean at the AC dining room show. AC dining room show. I don't know. Wait, did I do a show in Atlantic City? Was it a dining room? Oh, you just recently did a couple of weeks ago. Yeah. But it wasn't in a dining room, though. It was in a dining room. Did you call it a dining room maybe, though? I might have. Yeah. Matty Venn. Jake Klein, 03. Oh, I think I know exactly who that was because I saw him afterwards in the casino. There it is. How you doing, guy? Wapiti Josh. I think Yanni secretly only has eye for Mamdani. Okay? Sarah Dawn. Austin Eubanks. Adam Rios. Let me just say, you know, I don't want to ruin it for the next guy, but I only got eye for Yanni or something like that instead of eyes. That would be good. That guy just ruined it with the Mamdani. The Mamdani thing. Steven. Then we got the Fagonacci Squeakwins. Wait a second. Ladder 14. Fagonacci Squeakwins. Yeah. The Fagonacci Squeakwins. I'm going to direct you to that because it's hard to say, but it's really good. Chrissy's Cops and Robbers Wedding. Yeah. Yeah. That's very funny. Well said. Yeah. John Begley. Alex Velasquez. Dancing Queef. Feel the heat as she squats over me. Instead of a dancing queen. Yeah. Drexler it. Okay. Yeah. Almost. Mark. Jenny Larkin. Sean Johnson. Dutch Leroy. Ladder 14. Whoops, whoops, whoops. Chris Italia's toilet seat. Still reinforced. Lick. Chicken finger. Chicken finger. It's too inside, but chicken finger. Yeah, but it got a big laugh. Yeah, it's too inside though. Mark, build the Wahlberg. That's what it is. Yeah, put them on the list. It's where you go. Jay Clark. Joaquin Rodriguez. Mark Barone. Jessica Longo. David Berlin. Brendan. Billy Gibson. Got the vasectomy after the fourth abortion. That's what it is. Carol. Daniel Diaz. Tim Ingram. KP's Meats. You can beat my meat, but you can't beat my prices. Okay. Wait, say it again? KP's Meats. Kid's probably going for the list and also screwed in at the same time. There it is. So we've actually never had that where a kid was like, I'm going to promote my shit. Right. And I'm also going to go for it. Yeah. So good for you. Good for you, KP Meats. Nor Near Fitness screwed in so tight I smell gas. Yeah, so what is it? Nor. Nor Near Fitness. Maybe she screwed into and she went for it. There it is. Two back-to-back that went for it. On health. Tom Calamari, Ian Gurney, Colton, Scott Everman, Gabe Luckman, HiHi, Aldolfo Quezada, Richard Gere's Hamsters Eat Ass, Vincenzo Russo, Nancy Pelosi's Mud Flaps. And also shout out to all the straight to the backs. We appreciate you too. Love you guys. Tamer Bishop. You're just here for the content and all business. We like it. Big Mike is going to make Josh choke it. Okay. Sass. Havan Framer. Aaron V. Theron. Michael Cloward. Crypto Stanek. Zoran. Mom. Jihadi. It's just funny because some of my friends definitely say that. I never heard it. CB. Swish. She took the kids, but at least they have step-siblings now. Call me Pluribus. Emerson. We'll eat your ass, but then call you. You fight. Weigh some chain. Okay. Drexler. Drexler. Flushing Park Santa Call me five cent rebate okay his story 69 uh having leroy tix in movie theaters and buses okay mateo mamdrani brasco ben gladding vegan from el paso call me the lone star whoa whoopsie he's talking about himself though here for a good time and a long time i'm on peptides i like it i'm a drexler yeah we're gonna get yanni on peppies anna bronk zdo jack bush grown man but my toddler leroy stepson has a bigger piece okay drexler uh chrissy's blue chew makes him shoot the glue goo dylan kimes nick d call me mary poppins because i like to be surrounded by chimney sweepers put them on the list there it is yeah it's a very good name for you aaron brown looking in the fridge for emotional suffering support okay marco holo maga now and finger okay maga now means miami acquires yannis on to you know yeah he's on the heat now looney fumes looney fumes chicken finger roflisberger didn't do it chicken finger my tiny peen fits nice tucked back in my polka dot bikini okay went for it crack and trannies call it loophole's drag race i like it drexler what it is yeah branch manager at banco popular ate some tanko chocular then took an adolf schittler on my chest kid had a way song she ain't fuck your jiu-jitsu jew rogan you're still a squeak okay latin thomas weinken ivan the squeak for mario lopez chrissy method need to stephano chrissy what method need to stephano i don't get it alberto medina yannis is pregnant couch that's very funny yeah it's just what it is it's inside but what do we do with that it's very funny because you put it on the list jerking off on the couch yeah i mean just honor it i don't think it's going to win but honor it day hon hana david call my piece boogie because it's always with a hoodie okay cam howell i like that yeah hold on circumcised circumcised drexler uncircumcised yeah yeah drexler two scoops for the toots uh arrow vision allowing her to read ndas with precision latin 14 okay so here's the deal that's the best one right so what do we do oh it's not going to win we can't go public with that we can't but i just want to honor you so we'll put it in your creativity is is it's the best one it's the best one but we can't unfortunately because then we would be legally liable we cannot do that but well done aboriginal werewolf call me mandingo dan vanity is reading comprehension has fumes hey how you doing my name's steven cross and i'm here for the content thank you michael florino and then last but not least jesse's hollowed out tangerine chicken finger can we just one more time what was it arrow vision allowing her to read ndas with precision just so you know you're what they call the de facto winner but we can't we can't put you up in lights okay so here's the list lost fingers on the fourth but i can still fist that guy's sticking around yanni drops acid to open his second eye was sticking around mark build the walberg sticking around got the vasectomy after the fourth abortion we're gonna direct so that guy thanks for playing zoron mom jihadi we're keeping that guy okay call me mary poppins because i like to be surrounded by chimney sweepers we're gonna direct so that okay yannis is pregnant couch what do we do with that it's fun but it's like is it inside i mean does it go up in lights i don't know if it's good enough to beat these yeah so but it's not bad but okay so we'll get that out of here all right so here are the four um we got lost fingers on the fourth but i can still fist yanni drops acid to open his second eye mark build the walberg or zoron mom jihadi okay toughy uh what was the first one again lost fingers on the fourth but i can still fist which is interesting because if you lost it means probably better actually we're gonna direct him since the fourth pass but we're gonna honor you and say any other day yanni drops acid to open his second eye that's funny we got to keep that around okay yeah mark build the walberg too simple for this list right we're gonna it's a chicken finger so then it's between yanni drops acid to open his second eye or zoron mom jihadi now zoron mom jihadi is that like a common thing that i just never heard i i never heard it and i to me it just sounds like it made me laugh because it's like guys from queens don't know how to say mom donnie so they just call mom jihadi or is that the winner it feels like what do you guys think it got the biggest reaction out of you yeah yeah let's do it yeah that seems like you like that yeah nick yeah wow even nick saying it and he's and he votes for zoron i know so but i think that's funnier than okay yeah i think that's the winner so congratulations go to history hyenas is back.com to see your neighbor zoron mom jihadi you are this week's ppw pseudo penis of the week we are here for you every single week at patreon.com slash history hyenas and youtube.com slash history hyenas like support us tell your friends about the patreon uh more episodes over at patreon right now fall is the 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