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The transcription captures a WNYC radio segment responding to Jennifer Lopez's claim that only those born in New York City can be considered true New Yorkers. The host plays clips of candidates from a debate offering diverse definitions, such as having a consistent breakfast order, not walking four across, or being stuck in an elevator. The show then opens phone lines for listener takes. Callers propose various standards: Lisa jokingly says anyone who moved after her is not a New Yorker; John supports a 10-year rule; Bob suggests five years, citing navigation skills; Diego agrees with the 10-year rule but criticizes J.Lo for excluding immigrants; Deborah claims you can take the woman out of Brooklyn but not Brooklyn out of the woman; and Janet emphasizes borough identification and spontaneous conversation. Texts add criteria like knowing how to jaywalk or never using a green MetroCard. Overall, most callers reject a strict birth requirement, favoring time, attitude, and cultural integration. The segment highlights the ongoing, playful debate over New York identity, with many valuing the city's history of welcoming newcomers.

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[music] So our little tag to the debate last night or at debate coverage is a call in for you for a few minutes. On one question, Bridget asked the candidates as a lightning round question last night, and that is what makes someone a real New Yorker. Now the reason that Bridget asked is that Jennifer Lopez made news on this topic recently. Jennifer Lopez, otherwise known as JLo or Jenny from the block, caused a stir with her appearance on the short form show Subway Takes hosted by Karim Rahma. Let's take a listen this runs about a minute. So what's your take? You have to be born in New York to be a New Yorker. Yes, I know everybody wants to claim the city. No, I know what. Everybody wants to claim our city, but you have to be born in New York. You have to be born in the one of the five boroughs to be a New Yorker. Well, here's the thing. When I moved here in 2012, everyone was like in 10 years you can call yourself a New Yorker. Oh, is that what they said? Yeah, and then I stayed 10 years in the club. Said no New Yorker ever. No, the New Yorkers, you said have this as a rule. That was a rule? Yes, you didn't know about this. No, I didn't get the memo. I did not sign the petition. And you're the official big dog in this. I'm serious. Here's my question. Okay. Let's say I've been here for 50 years. I mean, 90 years old. And you go, are you a New Yorker and I go, no? I have to say, no, you live in New York. You take on characteristics of New Yorkers, probably by that time. You have a New York sensibility. I pay New York taxes. You pay New York taxes. But I can't call it. When you're born in New York is when you're really at New York. Alright, JLo with Karim Rama on subway takes. So listeners, we're going to play what the candidate said and respond to that same question at the date last night. But we are opening up the phones for your take on that divisive debate facing New Yorkers. Right? Facing New York City always, right? 212433 WNYC. What's your standard for calling somebody a real New Yorker? 2124339692? Is it what JLo said? Is it what any of the candidates you're about to hear? Say, what's your own standard? Has this question come up for you? Whether you were born here or not? 212433 WNYC call or text right now and say, what makes somebody a real New Yorker, according to you, 212433 WNYC, 4339692? Here's how Bridget brought it up in the lightning lane question at the debate. How long do you have to live in New York City to be considered a New Yorker? Mr. Boris, Mr. Boris. It's all about your attitude. The second you have a consistent breakfast card order and that you would never stand four across on the sidewalk, you're a New Yorker. I think the first time you get stuck in an elevator in your office building in New York during a power failure. The day you move here, we're a city of newcomers, we always have been and we should always stay that way. New York say to mind, all over the world. When you realize when somebody's yelling at you on the street, they're not actually yelling at you. All right. How about four across on the subway? I mean on the street, don't stand four across on the street. How about when somebody yells at you and you're realizing that they're not actually yelling at you, you just think they're yelling at you because they're just yelling. How about the first time you get stuck in an elevator? How about that one answer? The day you move here because that's what New York is, right? It's a city that attracts people from all over the world, from all over the Midwest and the South who want to come here and live this culture. What is it for you? 212-433-WNYC? What's your standard for what makes someone a real New Yorker? We'll take your calls and texts right after this. Brian, there on WNYC. All right. Let's get some quick takes on what you think it takes to be a real New Yorker, Lisa in Manhattan, you're on WNYC. Hi, Lisa. Brian, so I'd imagine that most New Yorkers feel the way I do. I'm a New Yorker, of course, but anyone who came to New York after me, not a New Yorker. So the cutoff is me. Thank you very much. I think John in Manhattan, you're on WNYC. Hi, John. Yeah, hi. I think obviously to be in Native New Yorker, you must be born in the five burrows, but I agree with the rule, the 10-year rule. Been here 10 years, you can call yourself in New Yorker. Thank you very much. We'll go next to Bob in Brooklyn, you're on WNYC. Hi, Bob. Hi, thanks for taking my call. Long time, long time. I think that it takes about five years to become a New Yorker. It sounds like J.Lo wants to be a Native New Englander, but she can't be because to be a Native New Englander, according to the Englanders, you have to be there 10 generations. For New Yorkers, I would say, if you're a beer, when you get in here about five years, you get to know where things are. You get to navigate the city without any help more naturally. For me, the perfect New York story. Oh, here's a good one. You're a real New Yorker if you can pass a celebrity into street and just give them that little slice smile and a little nod to your head. Good one. Good walk. I like that, Bob. Thank you very much. Here's another good one. Listen to texts. If you are a real New Yorker, you know how to J.Walk. And another text, if you've never had a green metro card, you're not a New Yorker. Another one I've lived in New York for 56 years. My children and grandchildren were born in Manhattan. They are all New Yorkers. I'm still a wannabe. How about that? A Lana in Queens around WNMC, hi, a Lana. Hey, Brian. You're a real New Yorker. If you see cops shutting down the street and you think, is that a terrorist attack? And then you go on with your day. Thank you very much. Deborah and Jersey City. You're on WNMC. What makes you a real Jersey City? I mean, I've been in Jersey City for 35 years. But I consider myself both, a person of both worlds, because lately, especially the last couple of years, my Brooklyn has been really coming out. So you can take the woman out of Brooklyn, but you can't say Brooklyn out the woman. If you've won in New York or you choose to move there, then you consider the real New Yorker. But I'm also a Jersey City person as well. Definitely here that they can't take the Brooklyn out of your voice, Deborah. That's for sure. Thank you very much. And Diego in Brooklyn, you're on WNMC. Hi, Diego. Hi, Brian. Thanks for taking my call. Yeah, I'm a born and raised New Yorker and I kind of agree with the 10 year rule. I think it's a little weird of JLo to kind of be denying a lot of immigrants and people that have brought so much vibrant culture. It's a New York history forever. And it's not very in support of me. Hentit Latino. If anyone gets that joke. But yeah, I think that there's a lot of things that can make someone in New Yorker, but I think the 10 year rule is pretty good. Thank you very much. Ivan in Baldwin, you're on WNMC. Hey, Ivan. OK, I came to New York when I was 14 years old. Went to junior high, went to high. Went to New York University from New York. I grew up in Brooklyn, even though I'm a long Islander, consider myself a Brooklyn. So give me like about 10 years or so. 10 years or so. And you were a New Yorker. Thank you very much. One more Janet in Manhattan, you're on WNMC. Hi, Janet. I'm a long time, listen to long time call. I believe in addition to living in New York, two other things. You have to have a sense of furrow identification. Very important. I was born in the Bronx, but I've lived on Morningside High School at 50 years, but I am still from the Bronx. Number two, we had a kid where you see somebody that's doing something and you start to have a conversation. A real New Yorker will come back with something. And the third thing is I think that's it. It also helped you have an immigrant grandparents. Janet, thank you. Thank you very much. All right, everybody. There's some quick takes on what it takes to be a real New Yorker. Not a lot of people agree with Jennifer Lopez, who obviously was having fun in that clip, but there you are.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Jennifer Lopez sparked debate by stating that to be a real New Yorker, one must be born in one of the five boroughs.
  2. Callers and candidates offered varied standards, including a 10-year residency rule, attitude adjustments like not standing four across on sidewalks, and navigating city life without help.
  3. Many callers rejected J.Lo's strict definition, emphasizing that immigrants and newcomers contribute to New York's culture and can earn the title through time and experience.
  4. Humorous takes included knowing how to jaywalk, never having a green MetroCard, and giving celebrities a simple nod without fuss.
  5. A recurring theme was that the definition is personal and often self-referential, with some saying the cutoff is "after me."

Summary:

The transcription captures a WNYC radio segment responding to Jennifer Lopez's claim that only those born in New York City can be considered true New Yorkers. The host plays clips of candidates from a debate offering diverse definitions, such as having a consistent breakfast order, not walking four across, or being stuck in an elevator. The show then opens phone lines for listener takes.

Lo for excluding immigrants; Deborah claims you can take the woman out of Brooklyn but not Brooklyn out of the woman; and Janet emphasizes borough identification and spontaneous conversation. Texts add criteria like knowing how to jaywalk or never using a green MetroCard. Overall, most callers reject a strict birth requirement, favoring time, attitude, and cultural integration.

The segment highlights the ongoing, playful debate over New York identity, with many valuing the city's history of welcoming newcomers.

FAQs

Jennifer Lopez stated that to be a real New Yorker, you must be born in New York, specifically in one of the five boroughs.

One candidate said it's about attitude, like having a consistent breakfast cart order and never standing four across on the sidewalk.

Another candidate said you become a New Yorker the first time you get stuck in an elevator during a power failure.

Lisa from Manhattan joked that anyone who came to New York after her is not a New Yorker, making the cutoff herself.

Several callers mentioned a 10-year rule, meaning you can call yourself a New Yorker after living in the city for 10 years.

Bob said it takes about five years to know the city and navigate it naturally, and you're a real New Yorker if you can pass a celebrity with just a slight smile and nod.

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