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So in the simulation theory of life and how some things are going right now, it's rather interesting that, after all this time, thousands of years to be exact, it appears that maybe, just maybe, some archaeologists, researchers, historians, a mix of whatever this team is comprised of, thinks that perhaps they have found the final resting place of what we know as Noah's Ark itself. I shit you not, this is a real story. Did you hear about this or is this the first time? No, I didn't, but it's the perfect year to discover these types of things. Yes, almost like we're mentally preparing for, I don't know, like the event? The event, yes. The event, right? Yeah, it's so funny. Can you pull up the second link, Joey Deef? This has got the full article with the details for people. Noah's Ark. But this is, the headline says, Noah's Ark resting place, quote, 100% confirmed, unquote, quote, 100% confirmed, unquote, after 4,300 years as huge discovery made. According to the Bible, the massive vessel saved humanity and every kind of animal from every single one. Joey Deef, that's crazy. From annihilation during a catastrophic flood, experts now say they have found a formation. Let's go down. Isn't that cool? And give people the deets. To open an article with, yeah, according to the Bible, here's the news. Right, the Bible, news, hello. Perfect. The remains of Noah's Ark have supposedly been confirmed and found after remaining a mystery. For hundreds of thousands of years. Experts say they have found a mysterious boat shaped formation that some researchers believe could be the remains of Noah's Ark high in the mountains in Turkey. According to the Bible, the massive vessel saved humanity and every kind of animal from annihilation in chronologies that place more than 4,300 years ago. Now, experts believe that they have, quote, 100% confirmed, unquote, the find. They believe the mound is not a natural geological feature, but instead, quote, a manmade object, unquote, which has been located in, Dura Pinar Formation near Mount Ararat. I do have to say, and remind me, I got to talk to Matt LaCroix about coming in early next year. I keep forgetting to do that. But Matt's been on the show a bunch and Matt's done some extensive work on the ground himself in Turkey. So Matt's a great guy, cares a lot about ancient history. I love hearing him talk. Sometimes he goes like a little far on some stuff, but like when it comes to some of the things that are being found and the structures, and the stuff in Lake Vaughn in Turkey, like some of his work there, to me, is really, really, really impressive. And I highly recommend people check that out. But this, Joey, you have this image up for people, right? So they can see that right now. - Oh yeah, that, everything reminds me of her, you know? - That's, you took the words out of my mouth. That is. - That's a mussie. - We found the clitoris. - That's a mountain, that's a mussie. - Yes, a mussie. - Yeah. - You just come up with that now? - Yeah, just now. - That's pretty good. - Yeah, it's a mountain, a mussie. - That's good, mountain, a mussie. - Yeah, a mussie. - Okay, let's go down so I can keep giving the scientific details. They used laser technology and radar surveys to look into the area and say they found structural layers, straight lines, right angle intersections, and large cavity-like spaces at multiple depths, which suggests something manmade had once laid there. The researchers also claimed their high-tech scans show potential chambers, little chamber of secrets down there, Joe D. - That's it. - Corridors and tunnels along with a thick underground layer dividing into three parts, a feature that compared to God's command in Genesis for Noah to build the Ark with three decks. Imagine you're finding something and you're going through like these hardcore scientific LIDAR surveys and like looking at the scans and figuring out the structure and then like turning to Genesis and you're like, "Oh yeah, it matches up." - Yeah. - Like that's gotta be some next level shit. - It's gotta be pretty crazy, yeah. - Yeah. They're searching to see if they can find any traces of decayed wood to further substantiate their claims. There's more. So there's kind of a side profile. Independent researcher Andrew Jones, the founder of Noah's Ark Scans, right to the point on that name, has investigated the area for nearly 30 years. He said neither the radar surveys nor drilling conducted inside the formation detected limestone or solid bedrock. That's interesting. - Okay. - The expert added this destroys the theory the site is a solid limestone block shape into a, this destroys the theory the site is a solid limestone block shaped into a boat by glaciers and weathering after coming down the mountainside. And it also refutes the theory that this is bedrock around which mud flowed to form the shape. I firmly believe the Dripnar Formation represents the buried remains of Noah's Ark. The research team recently drilled into the formation, collecting samples that may contain vital evidence and is the latest hunt to find the elusive, formerly mythical boat. That is fucking wild. The first major radar survey in 2019 detected linear and angular anomalies the team interpreted as possible walls, passageways, and separate compartments. A deeper investigation conducted in 2026 by Dr. Khosrow Bakhtar used an advanced radar system developed through US Air Force research and found massive layered reflectors, underground boundaries that bounce radar signals back towards the surface, as well as what the team interpreted as sediment filled cavities in the same area. Five prominent anomalies appeared to form a possible tunnel system extending across roughly 151 feet with an average structural height of over 14 feet. How tall is an elephant? So, if it was 14 feet. Like an African elephant. I want to make sure I have it exact. An African elephant. Fitz, 13 feet. That's max, yeah. 13 feet max, which means 14 foot ceilings. Would fit the elephant. The largest mammal on earth. Wow. We out here finding biblical shit, Joey Deef. How tall are Asian elephants? I don't know whether to be excited or scared. Asian elephants? No, they're a little shorter. Asian elephants are shorter. They're smaller. Just a bit. Yeah. The heads are also shaped differently. And they have a different tusk formation, I think, too. Yeah. But you could get the full blown African elephant on there, which would make sense. Because then it would, you know. If it's 4300 years since this one, it's also not that long a time from an evolution perspective. You know what I mean? Yeah. I like how they're just saying 100% confirmed. They're really confident. Yeah. The confidence worries me a little bit because like when you're making a claim about one of the ultimate like secrets of ancient text and you're just like, it's 100% and we haven't even technically taken it out of the cavity yet. So, probably should back off that a little bit. That's what I mean. We run too far with this. But that certainly looks very, very suspect. And as I said, even looking at Gobekli Tepe in Turkey, Turkey for some reason is one of those places where like, yeah, a lot's going on. And also archaeologists and the whole like archaeologists industrial complex love telling people to shut the fuck up and not look here. And they love saying, no, nothing to see here when someone finds something objectively crazy. Like when we had Hugh Newman in here, that episode came out in January. Yeah. You know, some of the stuff he's been finding in Turkey, like again, interpret it as you will, but like, you can't look at these structures and the different formations and not say this shit is crazy and old as fuck. Yeah. You know, I just, that's one of the strangest things, Deef, that I've seen firsthand doing this podcast for a lot of years now. And having some cool people working on archeological digs in here, one of the strangest things to me from like the academic perspective where there's a lot of strange shit, obviously, is the complete ivory tower around trying to find new ancient discoveries in history. It doesn't mean every time you find something, including this story we just read, like, oh, that definitely means that like, we have to rewrite everything like, yeah, you don't want to run too far with it. But like testing. Test these things out. Stop being like, no, this is decided science. When? From, you know, 1845, Royal England making a declaration on Egypt. Yeah. Like, I feel like we've come a little farther with technology then to, you know, since then to make some new conclusions here. No? No, I agree. Got to challenge it. We've got to challenge it. But you know, whether it's Bonnie Blue, billionaires fucking raping kids on islands and shit, whatever, you know, the soup du jour of holy shit, send the asteroid is when we start finding some things like the great flood remnant hard not to ask some tough questions there thief yeah i agree right one of if not the most common dms i get on instagram are many of you asking me what my favorite books are well today's your lucky day because if you use the link in my description below to join my newsletter i'm going to give you my top 10 book recommendations right now also if you'd like to join my clipping community for a chance to make money producing content from the show you can do so via the discord link in my description below and finally you can join my patreon for early uncensored releases of the full episodes via the patreon link in my description below as always please take one second to hit that subscribe button if you haven't already i really appreciate that also the like button's a big help and you can join my newsletter via the link in the description below they're just getting ready to soften the blow they're getting ready to soften the blow and maybe on the way to softening the blow joey thief maybe on the way they gotta make sure that we're not all like you onto this so you know i don't know where you guys are watching this right now i know a lot of you watch on your phone which we already know spies on us and stuff but if you're watching us on a tv right now particularly on an lg tv listen up real quick and then i'm gonna have some details on this including some denials from lg but here we go with a little video we're gonna get the deets right after this this lg g5 tv has a microphone connected to it and right now it's listening to me and saving the information in fact that's nice we can even unplug the network unplug it's still listening to me and what i'm saying is being stored right over there by someone with remote access to the tv and then we were able to exfiltrate that recording via vulnerabilities after the user reconnected the network no network you know how we were talking about ai's escaping the sandbox yeah now they're putting us in the sandbox yeah it's good not now i mean they've been doing it but like at a time where the technology humans are inventing is breaking out they're calling us in so i'm gonna i'm gonna start with the article down lower def because that's the update we're gonna come back to it that's the is september 8th the original story and then september 10th is the response from lg so we're going to be balanced and and give both and then i'll kind of give my thoughts because this was fascinating there's some semantics here let me just explain then we'll get into it so tv brands tracking user activity to serve targeted ads isn't a new phenomenon but the extent of private information they allegedly collect may worry some tv owners an investigative video published on monday gamers nexus claims the tvs from one of the world's largest and most popular brands lg can eavesdrop on users conversations even when the screens are turned off the investigation was carried out with level one techs and other independent researchers and the resulting video is nearly 135 minutes in the video gamers nexus says that while most tv brands collect your viewing data for their automated content recognition systems lg goes beyond the basics to collect valuable pieces of information such as your location ip address names of nearby wi-fi networks and the names of all devices connected to the same network as your tv thief they're they just want to know like what you're doing so they can look in on your safety yeah and they want to be able to let you know what product you need that's right that's right they are trying to serve you i don't know what the big for us it is it we are the product it's all for us it's all for us acr comes enabled by default on most new tvs so you don't opt it's defaulted in remember that okay the program logs your viewing habits and sells that data to any third-party company that would like to know them this is where mike yagley also comes in a little bit it's reminiscent mike yagley we had on episodes 343 and 351 his whole thing and i highly recommend them he's very very intense and and entertaining because of that intensity he's like remember that thief he's like yo we're fucked totally intense just like three and a half hours that but mike yagley was were is a data amalgamation researcher i'm making up that term but let me explain what that means he got really good at working with large public data sets to be able to get market research meaning figure out what data on you and me are to that brands can use and as that technology was progressing when 2010 rolled around 2011 2012 he suddenly started to look at it and be like wait a minute sitting in my fucking office five feet from my bedroom i can use perfectly legal public tools to go get all this information on all these people and this is the fastest growing silent industry filled with companies whose names you've never fucking heard of and he's like huh that that seems kind of a little anti-constitutional so then he goes and he tests this out on a major u.s base it was for was it fort dix in carolina yeah that was what it was yeah and so what he did is he was again with perfect he bought data that was publicly available nothing illegal whatsoever and tracked all his work so he could show this later i'll get to that in a second but he bought data and he started tracking these cell phones around fort dix i want to make sure we have that right can we just google there's a fort brag it's one it's one of them in carolina fort bragg it's the big one in carolina so i'll when he finds that yeah it's fort brag so he starts to look through all these different iphones that he's tracking for data marketing purposes that's what it would be if he were doing it for real this was just a personal experiment he was doing and eventually he finds a subset of them that would drive to this neighborhood that's 45 minutes away and he could track them down to the address and even before he looked at the names on that address he would track them down to the address and even which a lot of that's publicly available they hadn't checked on that he immediately knew that all these people living in this enclave area were from a higher level of the military because the income levels you would need to afford the mortgages on these homes were not what a standard person in the army would ever be able to afford and they were farther away from all the local army housing and everything so he then puts all those phones into a basket he gets all the data on who they all are he's then able to track everything and he's able to track everything and he's able their family members are doing and all that just for shits and gigs but he then watches these same iphones get on planes and fly over to syria where they set up under some french fucking front a cement company called lafarque or something like that and watches them use that as a base clearly for a clandestine mission so he takes all this data he doesn't give it to anyone obviously and he goes to the government and says yo fellas y'all got a fucking problem you want to hear about your latest i he didn't say what part of the military it was so i'm gonna say maybe it's like delta force or army rangers or maybe even something that involves yeah maybe even something that involves the green berets or one of them he's like do you want to hear about their latest fucking undercover mission and where they all are right now and he puts live trackers up on the screen in this presentation and shows then the genesis of him getting all that and says yeah if i can do this you think they they can't do this in fucking china right now you think they can't do this in russia you think they can't do this in ukraine iran anywhere and so he raised this whole point that like everything we're doing from the phones and then the bluetooth centers that we're connected to and the things that that we constantly have access to technologically of course we know they're spying on us but like the level to which osint meaning like publicly available intelligence can even if they have to purchase some of it can get access to all that and put it together is insane so now try to extrapolate that to the government also as a side note by the way mike yagley was tracking phones in 2019 to fucking epstein island looking at data from like 2016 and 2017 i think it was and you know like i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know but he had bill gates's phone and he explained like how he had the data on that schmil schmates you know rhymes with schmil schmates schmil and like that's just a guy in his office bedroom or bedroom office doing it which is kind of crazy to think about but all that to come back to this story because tv something normal you think is off or even when it's on it's not listening taking any data no one can get access to that apparently not so acr as i said comes to enable by default on most new tvs on lg's ad solutions website the company says it's acr technology can help advertisers reach 49 million lg smart tvs in the u.s and nearly 216 million smart tvs globally according to the video what's more concerning is that lg also knows about 363 million secondary devices phones computers ipads etc which may include smartphones connected to the same network as the tv as part of the investigation these those at gamers nexus were able to extract the names of the private conversations people were having around the LG TV. And you saw a quick video demonstration of that with it unplugged. So unless they're using total slate of hand and completely lying to you in a very public 135 minute video, I'd say that even if they don't have the full picture, they're pretty onto something here. So let's scroll back up deep to what you had originally, because this was LG's response, which, you know, spoiler alert, it was basically like, yeah, nothing to see here. Don't worry. We're not doing nothing wrong. Just trust us. But they said LG has denied allegations made by a gaming site that it's smart TV eavesdrops on users even after the screen is turned off. At ZocDoc, we know you care about your health. You wouldn't do that early morning cardio if you didn't. So the fact that your annual physical is overdue just shows how hard it can be to get seen by a doctor. Sorry, that doctor's not in network. Press one for more options. You've reached us outside normal business hours. The next availability is in three months. But ZocDoc makes finding the right doctor easy. Download the app and search by specialty, insurance, and availability. Read real patient reviews, then book instantly. ZocDoc, ready to be seen. Ryan Reynolds here from Mint Mobile. I don't know if you knew this, but anyone can get the same premium wireless for $15 a month plan that I've been enjoying. It's not just for celebrities. So do like I did and have one of your assistant's assistants switch you to Mint Mobile today. I'm told it's super easy to do at mintmobile.com slash switch. Interesting that that's also some language put there. Even after the screen is turned off as if that's what they're saying. Well, you know, when it's turned off, it's fine. But you know, when it's on. So anyway, the claims made in the recently published video are not true. LG tells CNET LG's TV's process voice data only when the voice button on the remote control is pressed and held or when a wake-up call is made. So that's what they're saying. So that's fake words such as high LG is recognized after the user has activated the far field voice recognition feature. I wonder, by the way, Joey Deef, if that includes like if I turn on the TV, right, and I activate the voice feature and I say go to ESPN. If now once I've done that and the TV is active and the remote is activated, if that means it's on now, so long as the TV is on, meaning like it stays. Yeah. And they and what they said there then technically slay to hand language wouldn't be a lie. I think that's true. That's what they're doing. Okay. The video Joey Deef is on the record. He thinks that's what they're doing. So he's going to check that case out some more. I'm sure the video in question was published by Gamers Nexus on Monday. The team claimed by extracted strength transcripts of conversations captured by the TV's microphone and added that the device logged information about other devices connected to the network. LG says, quote, it's TVs do not collect or record ambient conversations. On the second point, LG says the ability to scan for and connect to nearby devices on the same network is a standard function commonly provided by smart TVs and smart home devices. I'll bet they're right about that, by the way, to be clear. But like that means the problems wider here. Let's go down. In any case, if you're uncomfortable with LG using your activity data for its automatic content recognition program, which helps advertisers serve targeted ads, you may turn off a setting called live plus. And this if you guys have an LG TV, listen to this head to settings, general system, advanced settings, live plus. But like, we know how weird it is now that like my phone, which is locked right now, if I say the word, I don't know, for something random. No, Joey D, if I someone was talking with me earlier about like a Neutrogena skincare product. So I think I'm going to go buy one of those. I'll bet later tonight there's going to be an ad now for like Neutrogena. Oh, yeah. You know, and we're at 150. Yeah. You guys out there all have this experience. Where you're like, no, I did not type that in the phone at all. I didn't say that even when the phone was unlocked. It was just sitting in the room and now it's serving me shit. It happens to me when I just think about it sometimes. That's the creepy one. And I've been testing myself on that because it happens to me too. And then I try to remember like, have I, cause I'm thinking about something. Have I said that? Yeah. Subconsciously. Right. Yeah. It's tough. But like moral of the story, we're using, we're giving obviously all our assets around us up to be able to be data points. And when you see that in context with, you know, the current administration completely enabling AI companies to, and, you know, surveillance companies to ramp up surveillance techniques via flock cameras, axon cameras, all these other companies, obviously behind it as well, that we've seen explode since the Trump administration, came in especially. And then you see also like them using the Trojan horse of, I don't know, like no King's protest to test out things that Palantir is using for predictive policing and shit that's straight out of movies. Then you consider what we all have at home. It's like, man, that privacy is, feels very gone. And it feels like it's been given to us in a world of convenience to where we, we almost in some ways to keep up. With everyone else. I haven't had a choice, but to check out of that, which seems obviously like a rigged system, but I don't know, man. Yeah. I don't feel great about it. I don't feel great about it at all. So check your TVs. Yeah. That's, that's kind of the- Smash your TV. Smash your TV. That's right. That's the official policy of Joey Deve. Take your TV. And smash. Outside. Take the Louisville slugger out. Smash. Yeah. And then stick it in the dumpster and make sure they take it away. And then don't buy a new one. You can get one of those big, big fat TVs that we used to have, you know, like the big boxy ones. Yeah. Like where the back is really heavy and shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's, you talk about not convenient. We just got to get back to basics. That's the problem. We do have to get back to basics on certain things. And like, there's, there's some trends within Gen Z where they want to be more analog. I like that. On some things. I like that too. I think, I think getting outside and touching grass quite literally, not a bad thing. Not a bad thing. I read a study, or not a study. It was a fucking tweet. So who knows if this was real? Maybe we can actually fact check this. But I just thought of it. There was some sort of study that came out, which could mean a lot of things, that people born between the ages of, between the years 1992 and 2003 had the most unique childhood experience. And when you think about that, 2003 is a little long in the tooth, I think. But like, that range makes sense because those are the ages, and I'm in that range, and you're in that range too, Joey Deef, to where at some point in your childhood, when you had the ability to formulate behaviors and make memories, we lived in a world that wasn't completely reliant on iPhones. And even at some point, if you're born in '92, '93, '94, '95, '96, you remember a world where, smartphones weren't everywhere too, you know, and people weren't just craned in their phones texting and letting that run their life. And, you know, there was physical cash at places commonly, and people, kids went outside after school and played. Yeah. You know, it was even, you can remember a world kind of pre-Xbox 360, where you're on the headset. Mm-hmm. You know, it was like more, hey, if we went inside, we played PlayStation 2, NBA Street Volume 2, or Madden or something like that, and then went outside and did it physically with a football. Yeah. You know? Play manhunt and shit. Did you find anything on that study? No, it's not a real study. Damn it. It says it's based off the viral social media posts, so. Damn it. See, they got me. That's why- But I agree. It is unique in the sense that like, I was a beast at like using the computer, but I wasn't on the computer all the time. Like I still like rode my bike and played manhunt. That's right. Like did shit like that. Yeah, yeah. It's a bad, that's how this weekend show, that was the genesis of this. Joey Deef checked out of the internet for like a month. Yeah, honestly. And said, tell me about the Epstein files. I gotta do it again soon, honestly. I'm starting to feel it, starting to weigh on me. It is, I noticed that like when I can have, when I get my work done on Sundays, and like then I'm just letting the wash go in the late afternoon, when I can have that Sunday reset of like just reading a book on the Kindle or something like that. Yeah. And the phone is just away. And the one time a week where I'm not looking through content and shit like that and looking through video edits with Danny or going through production schedule or setting up thumbnails or all that shit. Like my Monday morning is much more fucking like, jump out of bed, let's go. Like I did that yesterday and this morning I was fucking ready to go. And there, I'm sorry, I don't have to look at science. Neither does anyone else out there. You know what I'm talking about. It is just, it has to do with like neuroplasticity and everything and your brain being active on something that's not just feeding it bullshit all the time. Yeah. And we gotta stay with that. So good, good on seeing some of the trends of Gen Z really working on that, which I'm sure means, I shouldn't say I'm sure, I have a feeling that we'll see maybe even some bigger trends of nostalgia for things that never existed for them in Gen Alpha that's coming up. who are completely grown-ups up in a world that is fully encapsulated by iphones and screens yeah and if they'll be curious about a world where you know they can have some time to not do that yeah we'll see and then you got to fight against you you saw that fucking get together in dc this weekend you know i'm talking about the data center get together oh yeah yeah yeah then you got shit like that which is just like you want to talk about being disconnected a bunch of fucking political executives or whatever you want to say uh skewing towards younger ages congressional staffers type people and stuff like that gathering in the biggest cesspool in america known as washington dc to have a brand and also think tank sponsored fucking rager air quotes there over like building more data centers i watched a few of the and i actually knew a couple people that went to that who are gonna be getting a phone call from me so at least one of them is but like i watched some of the videos from this event and i and and i watched them a couple times because i was certain i'm like that has to be a troll that can't be real and then i watched them a couple times through i'm like no they're dead they're a little hammered but like they're dead serious to be clear okay i understand like i'm on youtube i'm on spotify i understand like data centers have existed and you know things like this are literally shit and i'm like i'm on spotify and i'm on spotify and i'm on literally stored on stuff like that i'm not one of these guys that like none of this should exist we should totally get off the internet and shit like that we should be able to innovate we should be able to do things that you know allow america to also be like a leader in things where i take issue with stuff like this and it's a very reasonable conversation is that suddenly they are looking to build hundreds of these monstrosities overnight immediately far past far far past the supply that china is and they're looking to build hundreds of these monstrosities overnight immediately who also has a bigger population than us to boot far past that to where people are building it and obviously a stereotypical one was the proposed 62 square mile one that kevin o'leary built but they're building these things out in nature completely taking away from america's like natural assets if you will fucking over the water supplies that the same people were lecturing us on about climate change for the last two decades by the way and they're going to be lent and they're going to be leased out to like the worst tenants of big tech the open ais the palantirs and shit like that who know i don't trust with my data right like the obviously they have they have failed a lot of these tests and they're being shoved down people's throats to the point that basically money is coming in and influencing two or three fucking councilmen in certain places who vote behind closed doors while they're claiming to represent the people to say yeah bring in a data center that's also bringing no jobs and sucking up all the resources so yeah i do have a problem with the extent of that build and to see a bunch of congressional staffers who are probably all fucking each other good for them i don't judge you know god bless america you know gathering in a bar in dc sponsored by think tanks to fucking drink the night away and say let's build more ai because we got to beat china which you've heard me talk about in the last episode by the way i keep the china thing in the back of my mind for sure but like this is not the way and it is certainly another example of like as someone who is literally from the coast my entire life i am born and raised in new jersey so are you joey dave yes this is a prime example of the quote-unquote like coastal elite thought process versus the rest of america and the coastal elite people in you know a city somewhere like washington dc if you're in the middle of the world you're probably in the middle of the world but i don't know if you're in the middle of the world but i don't know if you're in the middle of the world but i don't know if you're in the middle of the world are deciding that they know best and shut the fuck up and it's the young people doing it that really left it it's like it's like dude you you like i'm seeing 23 24 25 28 year olds they're all fucking shilling this stuff i'm like that's what you're doing yeah it's cool it's cool to them they rock the palantir gear and shit yeah i it's well joey d it's gay i mean i agree and i i just too much too fast too much too fast and i'm never gonna apologize for saying let's chill on that again it's it's a balance you know for us to have certain conveniences in life like yeah you can have them but you know what as someone who like lives in hoboken right by new york city build build some of the shit in the city or something and i live here and i i'm not even advocating for that but i'm like do that before you build it in the middle of some beautiful fucking mountain range yeah i mean they they i'd rather see them destroy like 42nd street and build a data center there yes if i had my brothers time like like socks there yeah like i i don't i i don't want to see like these picturesque places totally blown up you know and yeah they should run the data centers all the people who attended that party should have to run the data center so then when like it starts to go south and the robots are like oh my god i'm gonna die i'm gonna die and start like screaming that they want to kill us all they got they got to be our front lines that's right that's right so they can they can put their money where their mouth is and i think that's fight the robots on our behalf yeah you know what actually if if they're willing to do that then i'll change my opinion on them yeah i'll change my opinion because they're they they will they will bravely sacrifice themselves to save try to save humanity yeah yeah okay i think it's fair i see that i think that's fair that's the script writer and you're looking at the villain hero arc i like that it's honestly just the businessman in me the business cause you know because it's just like let's just do good biz you guys want to ruin the world all right for your your first line of defense great but yeah i i did i did have some good conversations with some people offline including some people i know who were you know agree with me on a lot of the a lot of the issues we talk about on this show but they're they were like they were like they were like they were like they were some of the data center stuff feels like it's also like just total anti-technology and i was like no no no no it is it it's about the the semantics of how this is happening the speed and the people doing it and us all righteously having a real problem with that to be a check to the balance and say slow the fuck down and who are we giving this power to and why is kevin o'leary you know the fucking shark tank guy investing in utah so that he can sell off you know the lease space to fucking peter teal like yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna be like hit the chill pill on that and i'll make no apologies for that which by the way kevin o'leary still an open invite you're more than welcome to come on i think he did decline it's fair to say well but he's a coward i liked him in marty supreme i liked him in marty supreme he did a nice job there i'll give him that dude he did crush it in that film he did crush it in that you always you gotta call it like you see it he did crush it in that film maybe he should do more acting and less data centering yeah just a food for thought yeah you know like i could get behind the acting it was it felt like he was kind of playing himself a little bit i don't know if that's a compliment but you know certainly knocked it out of the park well did well four and a half gold stars but joey deep there is a story i've been i've been waiting waiting with bated breath to get to this one there is a story that i've been waiting to get to this one that went really under the radar that like talk about script writers you couldn't make this one up and i i haven't told you about this one yet you're gonna find out about this for the first time hit me but if you heard about this guy and let me just make sure i pronounce this correctly which means i'm definitely not going to leopold ashenbrenner the german the german yes you haven't heard about him okay let's let's talk about leopold because right now leopold ashenbrenner is still running a multi multi-billion dollar ai themed hedge fund but there's a lot more to this story that is very incestuous as well you might say so leopold ashenbrenner definitely not retarded i'll give him that he's he's reckless very clearly but he's not retarded he he went to columbia and was the valedictorian graduating at age 19 so i have to say he's definitely got a brain up there to be able to do that props to him for that but you know i think sometimes joey beef especially like if you may be smart on the iq scale but you're young and then you're also like kind of ahead of the curve so you get a real big head about it which he does appear to have a pretty big head but you know i think sometimes that can put you in a bad position especially when you're even younger than you're supposed to be getting out of college to make some really dumb decisions and then you're like oh my god i'm not gonna be able to make any decisions or even maybe think you know how the world works before you actually get a chance to find out you think it's probably i think that's fair yeah yeah it's fair to say that's fair so leopold comes out of college not the closet and you know where he worked joey beef uh oracle it's worse it's way it's actually way worse or whatever it is significantly worse than uh i'm gonna give you a hint i'm gonna give you a hint real quick at columbia and i'm reading this part straight from cia pedia while at columbia he co-founded the university's effective altruism chapter you remember that movement the effective altruism oh so ftx he did work at ftx we're gonna i'm gonna get to the deets of that in a second but effective altruism is like this weird fucking fake psychedelic you know and not like actual psychedelic but like they feel important movement that was emanating out of silicon valley especially in the aughts in the 2010s where all these like kind of autistic silicon valley types were talking about using technology that serves humanity to potentially be the best can you actually pull up the definition of it just so that people fully understand so i explain it correctly but it was essentially like hiding more hiding keyboard tyranny behind the mask of morality that's how it works I would describe it. But effective altruism is a philosophical and social movement that uses evidence and careful, it's not just reasoning, it's careful reasoning to find the most effective ways to help others and maximize positive impact. It's even written like a true artist, right? Like maximize positive impact. It's not like, let's make people happy or whatever. No, we have to solve for maximizing. Finding a doctor is hard enough. Finding the right doctor, even harder. Someone who takes your insurance, has an available appointment when you need one, and feels like someone you can actually open up to. That's where ZocDoc comes in. Download the ZocDoc app to search and compare doctors by specialty, insurance, and availability. Read real patient reviews, find the right fit for you, and book instantly. Because getting seen by the right doctor matters. ZocDoc. Ready to be seen? Download the ZocDoc app today. Upfront payment of $45 for three-month plan, equivalent to $15 per month required. Intro rate first. Three months only. See full terms at mintmobile.com. Positive impact. Yeah. Like it's just, I cringe when I hear stuff like that. And there's been so many people over the years who like claim to adhere to this and then turn out to be kind of monsters. I want to say, I don't want to give stolen valor here. I don't want to give a claim against someone I already don't like very much that's wrong. Can you just Google real quick, Joey Deef, if Sam Altman has ever. Commented on effective altruism. I'm trying to think if I'm getting him mixed up with someone else on this. Sam Altman famously remarked about the movement, I used to be annoyed at being the villain of the EAs until I met their heroes. So yeah, he's a fan. Okay. My point exactly right there. So some of the worst people you know, some of the more psychopathic people that claim to be, you know, they talk in a soft tone like, yeah, you know, we're solving to maximize. Positive outcomes for people. And you know, that, that's really all we're trying. I mean, this is how Sam Altman talks, but you know, behind it, it doesn't seem like he's doing a lot of things that are great for humanity. Doesn't seem to care that much about the impact of what his tools may or may not do. In this case, I should say may do that's very negative for humanity, including for the future of the population itself, but that's neither here nor there. So this guy Leopold founds effective altruism at Columbia, which already should have been a big fucking red flag. But on top of that, as Joey Deef said, joined FTX after he left college. So he specifically joined the FTX future fund team in February, 2022, straight from CIA right here. The team was part of the FTX foundation, which is the philanthropic arm of crypto exchange FTX and provided grant funding for research topics that would quote, improve humanity's long-term economic development. Prospects unquote, which, you know, improving humanity's long-term prospects. That sounds fucking great. Joey Deef. Yeah, I'm, I'm on board. This is a part of like a great way to explain this is Edward Snowden's old explanation of the save the puppies act. Whenever you see like an act passed in Congress, that sounds like, Oh my God, how could you ever vote against that? It's so, it's so like, everyone can get behind that just by the name. He's like, those are usually the most dangerous acts. Think of the Patriot act, right? So he's a part of this, the, this FTX found the, the, the, the team that's on the FTX foundation, Ashton Brunner ended up resigning a long time alongside other team members on November 11th, 2022, the same day FTX filed for bankruptcy. That's what you got to do, Joey Deef. You get off the sinking ship when you're lost at sea. And I, I can't even blame him for that, but he also resigned. He resigned with the woman who would become his future wife. Nice. I'm going to get to their lovely wedding that they all know. I guess that's coming, but do you know where, where she works now, Joey Deef? No, where? So Avital Balwit, that's her name, fellow researcher at the future humanity Institute and later joined Ashton Brunner as a member of FTX future fund team. After they resigned, she later became the chief of staff to the CEO of Anthropic. Nice. They all know each other. They all fuck each other. They're all a part of the same little club and you, me, and all of us aren't fucking in it. So they're at FTX. They get off the sinking ship. Where do you think Leopold went after that, Joey Deef? Um, I don't know. Maybe he went to like a startup or a small company, build it from the ground up. Right. You would think like, you know, you'd take some time off your personal brands, not doing too great. Haven't worked at the biggest fucking fraud outlet in modern history right now. Yeah. But no. He landed on his feet. He went to OpenAI. Nice. Went to OpenAI and he was working on some projects there. And this is where it gets weird. So at some point in 2024, he was fired. And when he was fired, he was a part of the team with Ilya Sutskever, I think his name is, who ended up also, he was like a high up guy at OpenAI. Might've been a co-founder. Don't quote me on that. But Ilya in 2024 was also removed from the company because he had concerns that emanated to all the way back to like Sam Alton. Yeah. And he was fired. And he was fired. And he was fired. And he was fired. And he was fired. And he was fired. And he was fired. And he was fired. And he was fired. And he was fired. And he was fired. But Leopold worked on his team and was fired and claims that it was retribution for leaking an internal report that something about it had been made public. It was a little murky. Like it was a, he said, he said, she said, and then the company said, no, that's not why, why he was fired. But he says when they met with him and fired him, that's why they fired him. But he had written this paper called something along the lines of like situational awareness for the future. Something like that. And so the paper went really viral because it, it broke down all of the supply chain effectively that went in, that goes into creating AI and therefore what industries are going to have like the biggest push over the next decade while the AI industry is being created, like who's going to profit off of that, that you could invest in if you're a finance guys looked at this young valedictorian, former valedictorian from Columbia who just left open AI and said, Leopold, you're going to start a hedge fund. So they spin them up with this hedge fund and VC at VVC intern did a really good breakdown of what happened to this hedge fund in 2026. Again, what could possibly go wrong when you got a 24, 25 year old kid, suddenly managing billions of dollars in assets with no previous experience investing. I could think of a thing or 10. Anyway. So from at VV, the underscore VC underscore intern guests were arriving in Carmel for Leopold Ashenbrenner's wedding while banks were preparing to liquidate his hedge fund. I said, I would get to his wedding while his hedge fund was like basically going belly up. I'm going to explain the details with this tweet in a second. The dude was getting married in some lavish marriage ceremony at the beginning of August. Perfectly going through with it. Didn't delay it. Didn't move it back while people were losing their ass to the tune of 35 billion more on that in a second. Just, you know, kind of interesting optics right there. Situational awareness had started July with roughly $45 billion and it gained 439% in six months. I'll give them this. That's impressive. 439% in six months is really good. What it does do though, you know, you basically spin up this hedge fund. You're going to get a big head and you start making bets. And from every story I've ever followed on wall street of people who fall, they get a big head and they start making bets. They start gambling with usually with other people's money, including their own. So they had gained 439% in six months. Ashenbrenner was 24, had never managed money before 2025 and had built one of wall street's fastest growing funds by turning his AI essay into a portfolio going long memory checks chips, meaning investing in them, data centers and power short software companies. He expected AI to commoditize much of that exposure was financed with borrowed money. So he's levering up money, which is very what the banks did during the housing crisis when they were just betting on all these fucking terrible jumbo mortgages. So when AI stocks reversed, falling prices reduced the collateral supporting those loans. Banks demanded more cash. So they're asking for their reserves to come back in. Selling stocks pushed prices lower, which produced more margin calls. So he's getting called to have to produce even more money and liquidate. And Ashenbrunner later compared it to a bank run. Situational reportedly spent about 24 hours finding one buyer for roughly $16 billion worth of public equities. Ken Griffin Citadel took the leverage book in a block trade while wedding guests gathered in California. If you remember, Ken Griffin and Citadel were the firm on the other side of the trade, one of the firms involved on the other side of the trade in the Robin Hood height in January 2021. So Ken comes back around again. Clean cut. Clean cut. Saved the day. A little 16 Billy for the boys and says, I'll take this off your hand, Leo. A planned sale of $3.5 billion in Anthropic shares was abandoned. Situational kept its private holdings and removed all leverage from what remained. July's losses reached 67%, which is about the same number as the full losses of the financial crisis from an S&P 500 perspective in 2008, 2009. Just, you know, for people keeping scores at home, he did that in one month. Here is the absurd arithmetic. $100 invested at the beginning of 2026 became $539 by June. Losing 67% reduced it to about $178. One of the most dramatic hedge fund collapses in years still left early investors roughly 80% ahead for the year. The later investors, which is most of them, by the way, have been fucked and liquidated to the tune of billions of dollars across them. Just to be clear. So the earliest people are doing okay. And apparently the earliest people do okay half the fucking time too. So that's neither here nor there, but recovering. And I love this line that this guy put in here. Cause this is like so true. And people don't think about this recovering from a 67% loss requires a 203% gain. I remember when I worked back on wall street, one of the things I would always say to people when we were talking about like risk with investments is I'd be like, all right, if you have a hundred dollars and you lose 50%, how much do you have? And they'd say 50 bucks. And I say, now what percentage do you have? And they'd say, well, I don't know. I'm to gain to get back to even to a hundred. They'd look up and they'd be like 100%. I say, yeah, you get more hurt on the downside than you do help on the upside. That's like one of the things like comes back to even like just a broad base, old cliche quote of like takes money to make money. Right. So lose money, make less too. So this guy basically fucked over all these people and was having a fire sale on the back end, getting bailed out literally. By people like Ken Griffin and still went ahead with his marriage that weekend. I don't know what his personal net worth is and everything, but I guarantee you, guarantee you, he is still worth in the tens of millions of dollars, maybe hundreds. I can't, that's pure spec. I don't know. He's still got his lavish lifestyle and everything. And you would think after such an event like this that required private, basically like for lack of a better way of putting it, private lenders, so to speak, that's not what they are. But like people like Ken Griffin to come in to liquidate and like clean this guy up, you would think that that might trigger something like, you know, some sort of like they have like that stop loss kind of trigger in a stock market sometimes when some news triggers a run on a stock and then they stop it from trading. You would think maybe they'd be like, yo, yeah, this hedge you can't do anything. He just put another 400 to 500 million in private investment in something the other day. We're in September, October. Now, like, again, for the 50th million time, it's a big club. You and I are not in it. I mean, that is deep. That is fucking wild that he can get away with that. Yeah. And it says that his net worth is estimated between 300 million and 1.6 billion. So okay. Yeah. So he is in the hundreds of millions. He's doing all right. And that's an estimation, but he's not missing no meals. Right. The current status, the fund shrank. This is straight from Google AI. The fund shrank to roughly 10 billion, exited the public equities market entirely and shifted its focus to remaining private investments, such as a stake in Anthropic, which is a public company, I believe. Right. Am I fucked up right now? Anthropic's fully public, right? Yeah, I think so. The Securities and Exchange Commission. No, it's not. It's not. Oh, they have an IPO coming up. That's what it is. Yeah. Right. That's why I'm thinking of that. The Securities and Exchange Commission don't know where they've been on this, but apparently they're looking into it. They got their people on it. They subsequently opened an inquiry into the trading practices and leverage utilized by the fund in its rapid rise and near collapse. Can we actually, I think I got rid of that link. Can you just type this in real quick? So I make sure I have this right. Did Leopold Aschenbrunner recently invest in some more private holdings? I saw something when I was looking through this earlier. And I think I just forgot to screenshot it where he just put another four or 500 million in. I want to make sure I get that right. Yep. Okay. So Leopold Aschenbrunner's hedge fund situational awareness recently made a $400 million investment into an undisclosed private company. It's the best kind, right? Undisclosed. Don't tell anyone what it is. Perfect. The $400 million private equity infusion closed in early August, right around the time of his wedding too, after the run on the bank. It followed a previous $100 million stake the fund had taken in the same undisclosed company the month prior, bringing their total commitment to 500 million. Because that's what you do when you lose everyone fucking 203% or whatever it was overnight, 35 billion. You make sure you take your previous investments where you put 10 bucks on fucking red, and now you put 40. You quadruple down, baby. Happened right after that. And that's how you got to catch up. The move came immediately after the fund narrowly avoided collapse and sold off the bulk of its public tech equities portfolio to Ken Griffin Citadel, following steep market routes and margin calls in July, 2026. I'm all for people starting their own companies, trying to build their businesses, you know, get success or whatever. A 24 year old with no previous investment experience whatsoever coming from a totally separate world, starting a hedge fund that raises for $45 billion worth, including in gains. So it didn't raise that it raised, you know, whatever it was, 15 billion or something like that. I'm all for people starting in their own companies, trying to build their businesses, starting a hedge fund that raises for $45 billion worth, including in gains. 10 billion in year one seems like something that should probably be a little bit regulated around or mark off some areas of being forced to be in given some private scrutiny, you know, like one of the things that really frustrated me when I worked at bank of America, Merrill Lynch, right out of college is that I used to joke with people. You had to ask permission for toilet paper to take a shit. And the reason for that was in the post financial crisis world of 0809, where to be clear, banks fucked everyone, including bank of America, including Merrill Lynch, which bank of America bought in a fire sale during the whole fucking thing, because they had torn it up in all the wrong ways in the housing market. The problem with the whip them a role on that is that the banks, the sections of the banks that fuck this up, first of all, those people should have all gone to prison. That's number one, none of that ever happened. As far as I know, not one person went to prison who did that. Secondly, the real estate companies, they worked with like the Angelo, Angelo Mozilla or whatever, like it would, I forget what company countrywide, whatever it was like, those guys should have all gone to prison. The dudes you saw testifying from the credit swap teams, including that French guy from Goldman Sachs, all those people should have gone to prison. The bank should have been known. The bank should have been regulated like crazy on proprietary trading, because if you don't know the history, when Glass-Steagall, and it's been a while since I looked at this, so I'm going to keep it really broad. When Glass-Steagall was brought in as legislation in, I believe 1934, when the great depression happened, the whole point was to keep the banks from using their money to make bets on the market when they would need to have a certain amount that could actually fulfill customers if they wanted to take out money. Because a big problem in the great depression is people went to take their money out of the bank and none of it was left there because the banks had used the money, right? So that's my finance people in the comment sections, please, for the love of God, clean that up right now. Cause I'm doing this off the gander without, without having looked at this in a while, but in, I believe 1998 or 1999, Bill Clinton effectively repealed Glass-Steagall. And this was after Blythe masters basically was like the godmother of, I believe CDOs, credit default swaps in, I want to say like 1994 at JP Morgan. And it was starting to spread on wall street. And so when Clinton repealed that, which I'm sure he, Joey, if he definitely wasn't lobbied to do that, they would never do that, but he just made that call on his own, obviously, because you know, Bill's a great trader, I'm sure. But anyway, so when he repealed that, it basically allowed the banks to start betting on this like crazy. And that's how you led to the next eight years of like one page sign right here, mortgages sold Sold by guys like Tim Dillon. Hilarious stories if you never heard Tim tell those stories about his – days as a mortgage broker but like you know you'd have someone walk in on 45 000 worth of income buying a house for 1.4 million where the rate's gonna fucking jump three years in and it's gonna explode and of course nothing's gonna happen but they were incentivized to do that because the mortgage companies again it's been a while since i look at this would basically just sell off that fucking asset to the banks real quick who would take a bunch of assets like that put it all up together and sell that as like an investment to a bunch of people including pension funds and major investment houses that was later going to blow up once no money came in from the mortgages to where people couldn't pay it and then the losses were going to come on the investors which is exactly what happened it was predatory it was criminal it was wrong it should have been regulated like shit like like crazy the fucking people that ran those teams should have gone to jail the ceos it wasn't all of them as far as i know but like some of the ceos like the guy what was it dick fold i believe that was actually his name definitely can we check that is it dick fold f-u-l-d from lehman brothers like that guy should have gone to jail because he was fully aware of what they were doing on that team obviously banks are big places he never went to jail though he never went to jail guys like that all should have gone to jail and those teams almost like shouldn't have been allowed to exist at all let alone trade on proprietary money but what ended up happening is the the regulation went to the entire banks which the reason we had an issue with this in certain places is because it was awful for the customers of banks it made their lives hell because they couldn't do anything without us having to do 47 million things behind the scenes on stuff that had nothing to do with mortgages nothing to do with any of that shit i will say when i would work a couple times i worked on mortgages for people and it was a pain in the ass but that was one of the things that i was working on i'm like this is actually good like like this is how it should be because i know what this did and i could see the due diligence that had that was required from like a kyc know your client perspective that would go into a mortgage to prevent you selling predatory mortgages and like that's where it worked but then like you know i couldn't text a client like on a daily basis to like say hey what's up or something like shit like that like they'd have regulation like that like that and it was crazy for banks then you see things like this pop up and you see guys i've had on the podcast warning about like an ai bubble that could be very much like a dot-com bubble where a lot of these companies end up being worth nothing which could be coming and could blow up the stock market and stuff and you are going to see these the government's not doing anything 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