The Creep

It's the Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast. Hey, what's up, dudes? Andy's back. Andy's back. How was your vibe? Because we received some feedback that your vibe on the first show you were gone for, you came in really hot on the voice note, and the second one was a little different. I was unwell. Yeah. Yeah. People noticed. Yeah, I crashed out. Yeah. Here's what somebody said. Dude, someone needs to check in on him. Last week, he was frothing with rage, and this week, he sounds like he's looking at the churning blackness of the water as it crashes to the shore of the cliff you're standing on. Yeah. I mean, I'm not bipolar, though. Is that what they're implying? I don't know. They also then added that either that or he just woke up, which is, I mean, that means they really know you. I was pretty run down. You know, summertime with the family, Seth, and Keev, you know about this, too. Sure. Yhorm would as well. Would he have been here? You know, sometimes it happens. I hold no grudges. I'm happy for Yhorm to miss the pod. He said he might join. Yeah. And if he does, that'd be great. And if not, it's okay. No judge. No judge. But there are moments where it becomes too much, and you break. Yeah. I think it's a real reminder that. Why didn't you take me there? I'm sorry, buddy. There's a good example right now. Yeah. Yeah. There's a child right here who's a little upset with me. Can you just walk in the frame and show him how you're crossing your arms at me? There he goes. Yeah. All right. Now, out you go. I got to do this. I'm sorry. I thought you were with your friends. He's like, what friends, Dad? It's, you know what? It turns out, when you're a dad, you know when your summer is? The winter. Me and Andy talk often about how I would show up on Mondays as the first person in our group with kids, and I'd be like, ooh, just so ready to rock, because it's so easy to go to work on a Monday compared to taking care of kids over a weekend. Oh, that's right. And he'd be so tired and like, what are you doing? We're back at work. And I'd be like, this is the best part of the day. Yeah. I had no idea. Yeah. I didn't know. You realize, like, the thing that you want from the lion, the witch, and the wardrobe is just the door, that the wardrobe has a door. You're happy to sit in the closet. When I go to my office, I'm always like, ah, hello, door. Hi. Hello, sweet friend. They're allowed to close you. Yes, yes. And it's respected. It's a respected door. No one here treats it like a saloon door that you can just push open. Guns blazing. A respected door. Oh, my God. Sorry. Can I just unload on you real quick, Andy? Everybody's really happy you're here, but I do feel like a lot of the comments were about your absence, so I just want to get it out of the way. I would love to get unloaded on, and I mean that in any way you want to take it. Andy, you- You mean that. Sorry, you recorded those voice notes on a good mic? You sounded really good on both, like, audio quality-wise. My brother was an iPhone. I was on a voice note app. Wow. Yeah. I was surprised you had gotten out a good mic to do them, but whatever you were doing, it was working for you. Thank you, my friend. See? Well, it's going to be positive feedback, too. And remember- That's before I get dumped off. If you want to see Andy get unloaded on in person, just tell him you've watched Digman on the show. Somebody wrote in, Andy's job interview, if pod co-host was a real job. So, to recap, you hate our industry, the one-hour work week is- It's going to be a problem. When you do show up, you'll complain about how much you hate the job, and you planned on spending most of the workday playing games on your phone. Yeah, very apt. The only thing I would take issue with that is the one-hour work week. Yeah. Because I'm available, like, honestly, like, 30 to 40 hours a week that others aren't. The Venn diagram of the 40 hours a week we're all free, it's crazy how little overlap there is. It's so difficult to parse. I think people have gotten that picture by now. Somebody, in fact, wrote in this comment that made me laugh, this is definitely one of my top five podcasts about scheduling. Fair hit. I didn't ask for this. Somebody piggybacked on a comment. I always enjoy when two members of Quaid Army work in concert with each other. The first comment was, Andy not showing up for the podcast for the second week really pisses me off so much. I'm about to- I'm about to take my phone and throw it on the ground. And then the next person wrote in all caps, "IF I WANTED A PODCAST WITHOUT ANDY ON IT, I'D LISTEN TO ANY OTHER PODCAST." Very in character. Very in character. Yeah. So some people maybe think that you, Andy, are the best character on the pod. I don't know. I think, you know, absence makes the heart grow fonder. Sure. Yeah, that's true. That's a very, very smart move. People love conflict. You know? Spicy. They do. Well, yeah. I think you're like an essential part. If this was a Real Housewives situation, you need it, Andy. I'm the victim. You are the victim. Yeah. You're the perpetrator who thinks you're the victim. Hey, real quick, Andy, how would you say the word B-U-O-Y? I'm sorry? B-U-O-Y, floating in the water. How do you say it? B-U-Y. Yeah. So England, Australia, they call it a boy. Which seems crazy to me. Yeah. Yeah. It sounds crazy to me, right? But then, a bunch of people, when we were saying that sounds crazy, were like, "Well, how would you say buoyant or buoyancy?" Oh, that's true. Yeah. Buoyancy. And I will say, I've always, you've always said, Andy, buoyancy. Buoyancy. Buoyant. Yeah. But you do say boy-la-bays for fish stew. I say boy-la-bays. But then, the question I have for them is, is there a way to say boy-la-bays in English? Boy-la-bays. Boy-la-bays. Boy-la-bays. Boy-la-bays. Boy-la-bays. Oh, boy-la-bays. Boy-la-bays. Boy-la-bays. Boy-la-bays. Boy-la-bays. Boy-la-bays. Oh, boy-la-bays. Boy-la-bays. Boy-la-bays. To all our quumpets out there. Yeah. Oh, we mentioned Rhys Thomas, SNL short film director. Rhys Thomas, who then, with Alex Buono, directed Documentary Now. He's a very accomplished director. He's done a ton of stuff. People were complaining that they could not Google him, and I think that's because a lot of people don't know that when you're Welsh and your name is Rhys, it's R-H-Y-S. There's quite a few of them. But is the Rhys of Widow's Bay that we were talking about, he does that? Oh, he is? Okay. Yeah, he's R-H-Y-S. So I heard you guys talking about Widow's Bay. I'm three in, and I've texted you guys about this, but it's entirely too spooky. It's too scary for you. Yeah, you guys were being like, it's not that scary. And I'm like, yeah, but also you don't like Lord of the Rings. You're an idiot. Right, right. But Lord of the Rings for me is not even close to scary enough. No, I'm not saying it's scary. I'm saying it's good. You have wrong opinions is what I'm saying. It's confrontational again is what I'm doing. I like a good jump scare, and the best Lord of the Rings has is a sit scare. But I like Lord of the Rings specifically because it's not scary. It's just good. It's not supposed to be scary. It's just a nice long walk. Yeah. I mean, when you think about it, the Odyssey is basically just Lord of the Rings on boats. Oh, well, spoilers. Jonathan Rhys-Davies. Do you know what iconic movie he's been in a ton? Yeah. From Paris with Love, right? Isn't that Jonathan Rhys-Meyers? Oh, no, that's Jonathan Rhys-Meyers. No, Jonathan Rhys-Davies is Gimli. Oh, is he Gimli? He might be Gimli, yeah. Yeah. And he's Raiders of the Lost Ark. He's Bad Dates. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. I'm so bummed. I'm so bummed I brought up somebody in Lord of the Rings. Bad Dates. Because you know it's dope deep in your heart. Yeah. I'm okay. So they're both Jonathan Rhyses. Yeah, it's crazy. Rhys Darby. Rhys Darby from Flight of the Conchords. Terrence Trent Darby. Yes. Wish Me Love of Wishing Well. Doesn't involve the Rhys. Do your impression of Terrence Rhys-Davies You're Welsh. Terrence Trent Darby, but you remember when you auditioned for SNL and you did Terrence Rhys Darby who was the Welsh. Yeah, Wish Me Love of Wishing Welsh. You're wishing on a wishing Welsh. You're wilching on a wish. Oh, boy. Rhys Iffins. Iffins, I think, is his name, right? Notting Hill. That's how you say it? Not Iffons? Iffins. I think you're right. I got it wrong. That guy's very funny. He's very good. He's very good. Andy, did you get one of these fake IDs that Keeve and Jorm used to have? The North Carolina fake IDs? Never did. I was always very envious and impressed. Yeah. They did a good job. They described at length what it took to make them and someone said, it seems like the steps to make the North Carolina IDs is exactly how many steps Ray Harryhausen took to make Jason and the Argonauts. Wow. Joke about how hard claymation is. It's a nice walk. A nice long leisurely walk like Lord of the Rings. Lord of the Rings. I said it first. You were going to say it and I heard you start saying it but then I said it instead and I win. You jumped in. You jumped in. My height came up, Andy, and someone said, they got your height wrong. Somebody said, I always thought Seth was at least six. I put Keeve at 5'10", Andy at 5'8", and Jorm at three snorks in a trench coat. Appreciate it being a snork. You know we're snork guys. Fuck. We talked about Top Villain by Audio 2. Wait, people thought Keeve was taller than me? I know. I'm very surprised. Well, we're about, so we're going to talk about The Creep today. Yeah. Before we do and before we watch it, is this the first time all three of you were in a digital short together? Like, not counting I'm in a boat. Or Orges in My Pants, which Keeve was in in a cameo, but was this the first one where all three were doing vocals? But this is like all three of you, like, you're like all the leads. Yes, possibly. I think it is and it's pretty great. I think that's right. It might also be The Last. Oh, no, I guess Jack Sparrow. Jack Sparrow. It's just those. Yeah. Pretty cool. So check out the heights. Check out the heights, everybody. There's not a lot of time to see them all in a line. Well, I can't remember if I've ever talked about this height-wise, Seth. I mean, just a quick little divergence. In the beginning of me being on the show, everyone thought I was tall because the first thing they all saw was Lazy Sunday and I am taller than Parnell. Right. And then they would watch our stuff, you know, the few people that watched Hot Rod, and they would see me next to Yorm and they'd be like, this guy's a giant. And so I would get the opposite thing where when I would meet people a lot of the time, it was like Roadhouse, they'd be like, I thought you'd be taller. Right. Because I'm 5'10". Yeah. Which is, I believe, exactly average. That's right. And I'm a half inch shorter than Andy. Is that, yeah. And they did nail three snarks in a trench coat, that is. Yeah, that's accurate. That's to the centimeter. Keev is a half inch shorter than me, but a hundred times smarter. So. It's a good trade. Hey, thanks. I'm the real Roadhouse situation, Andy, because of spending an entire career sitting. For real. Everybody's like, whoa. Like, just like, they're like, whoa. They think you're going to be bigger or smaller? Smaller. The thing I hear all the time is like, oh, you're so much taller than I thought. But Roadhouse is the opposite. They're all like, I thought you'd be bigger. Oh, right. Yeah, you're Roadhouse. Yeah. Well, I don't know about the new Roadhouse. I haven't seen it, but the Swayze Roadhouse. Yeah. I feel like they probably kept, I hope they kept that. I thought you'd be bigger. Get that a lot. In the new Roadhouse, the catchphrase is, that's about right. Every time they see Jake, they're like, that's what I pictured. Oh, yeah. Like, good looking, like, kind of jacked dude. Kind of jacked. Not giant. He looks like he could kick some butt. Not giant, not tiny. Yeah. Especially when you put him next to the guy from Broad City. Yeah. Somebody said it's the featured sample in a ton of other songs. The drum loop, for sure. Yeah. I want to say Real Love. They said 50 Cent's I Get Money. Uh-huh. I get money, money I've got. It's that line, I believe. Kanye and Jay-Z's Otis from Watch the Throne. Yeah, classic. Nobody Speak by DJ Shadow and Run the Jewels. Yes. Only God Can Judge Me by Tupac. Tupac? Yeah, from Tupacalypse Now. I love that. I love that Tupac. That's because of, I'm sorry, Tupac. He's been globally famous for like 40 years. Yeah, but you can't take the New Hampshire out of the boy. There's been a huge problem for me for a long time. Yeah, that's the most. That's the most Aunt Linda shit you've ever pulled. It really is. And by the way, I've gotten, I've had this corrected the entirety of my life. I can't get it right. But is that a New England accent? Is that what that is? I don't know what it is. Just how I see it, and I can't get over it when I see it. Tupac. It's kind of, it's kind of Pittsburgh. Because it's Pac-Man-y? It's Chicago. Tupac. It's Tupac. I miss him. Is Yin's Tupac's going to come over to the? Yeah. Tupac. Let me tell you something. Yeah, well, boy, I'm all over the place. The name of the video game was. Karateka? Is that what it's called? Karateka? Karateka? Karateka. What are you talking about? That's what. We're talking about the Nintendo thing from last week. But what game would be Karateka? Nintendo Fun Hour. By the way, I listened to a little bit of the pod. Jorm was saying that I wasn't a part of it because I didn't like editing, which I took issue with. No, you just weren't there. I was out of town. Yeah. And I remember coming back and being like, this is so dope. You guys rock. Yeah, you were very. Just being super happy about it. And you love editing. I'm not, I'm not doing a bit here. Yeah. You, you. You have an incredible amount of respect for editing. Yeah. Also, without touching the computer, you're one of the better editors I know. You just are not. Maybe that's what Jorm meant is like, what happened, Seth, is this. I went to film school. I edited all my own stuff. I'm not as tech savvy, like on the ones and twos as Keeve or Jorm. They're both really, really good at it. Like, obviously, at a professional level. And so when I started, we all started working together. I was like, well, shit, I'm not going to do it. Like, you guys are better at it. But then we would all just do it together. Right. Yes. Like, I remember. I remember coming in and often finding you at two, three in the morning with these dudes looking at an edit. Every time. Yeah. No, this guy gave editing notes that were to the frame on every episode of Brooklyn Nine-Nine that Dan Gore counted on and told me himself a couple months ago. That's nice. That was a key part of the process. I love editing. And I think Jorm just meant I wasn't putting my fingers on the keyboard. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt since he's not here. Well, you're technically, per the editing guild, you're not an editor if you're not touching the keyboard. A lot of directors sit there and tell that. or exactly what to do. That's right. And the editor is still editing, even though the director is sitting there making every choice. And you know what I also loved was Nintendo Fun Hour. It was great. Nintendo Fun Hour and The Heist and Just You Guys are the three things that these guys did without me where I came back and was like, fuck, these are so good. I love you guys. There's a real early, genuine Keeve and Jorm vibe. So good. You see a direct line from those early seeds to what they grew into. All class, all craft. All combined, 10 and a half feet. Thank you. I still in my mind often will hear, you are the superior dancer. Wait, now Seth, you for a second though were saying karate-ka. I still don't understand what that was. That's the name of the game on Nintendo that people think Jorm's dude was from. No, that was Kung Fu. Kung Fu. Okay. Are you sure it's not like a whole new thing? A whole genre of making things out of video game stuff? Oh, because it was a movie as well. That was a movie. Because that's a thing too. I mean, the classic Nintendo game is called Kung Fu Master, I guess. Yeah, you're right. I'm looking at this. But no, it didn't have the word master on it. No, it's just Kung Fu. It's Kung Fu. I don't know why they said. I don't know why I said this. Look, sometimes I just read their stuff. Oh, wait, no. Maybe it is Kung Fu Master. No, but then that's the cover and it just says Kung Fu on it. I don't know where they get the word master. Yeah, maybe it was different in. Yeah, different territories might have had a master on them. The game we couldn't remember the name of that we were debating was Rad Racer, which is the one that looks like Outrun, Sega Outrun, where you're behind the car. Oh, I loved Rad Racer. Yes, and that was Rad Racer. That's the only game we didn't remember the name of really while we were talking about it. I just put in the chat, someone made this because we were talking about The Shining and Jorm referred to Shelley Duvall as Shelley Long. And if you look in the chat, there's a really nice piece of graphic from Quaid. Oh, is it going to be Shelley Long on The Shining? Yeah, it's pretty good though. Oh, wow. Yeah. It's really good. I would like to see that. I'd like to see that. Whoever did that, I like what you did. Yeah. Let's see, what else do we have to talk about? Oh, you know, sometimes somebody writes something in and it's like, I don't know, you feel like it's like two truths and a lie situation because I believe part of it and then I'm like, hold up here. We're all ears. In a recent New York Times Games ad on the Ezra Klein podcast, Sam Mazursky talks about having, where letters and words evoke specific colors. Believe it. He also says he's finished the mini in four seconds. I believe it. I believe Sam would say that. He must be doing it on a computer for a second. Sorry, you said you believe he would say that. I believe he would say that. Do you believe that he did it? I do. Four seconds is insane, but there's no, I would argue there's no way to do it on iPhone. No, he's got to be on a computer. The buttons are just too clumsy. Or is he on like, you know what, I think he did it on like a minority report thing. Oh yeah. Like he got one of those giant Microsoft tablet tables. Four seconds, Seth. Even if I knew the answers before I opened it, I couldn't do it in four seconds. Right, right. Maybe it's a lie. So maybe it's two lies and a truth because the last thing was, and then he continues, and I quote, fuck you, Andy. Oh my God. I just don't think that was in the ad. Sam. Somebody can find us the clip. Kevin, will you see if you can find us the clip before? But it's an ad. That's the problem. Oh. I don't know if they have the ad in the transcript. It was a New York Times game ad. An ad isn't going to have the ad. It's going to have the transcript. There's an F word in it. To quote Shelley Long in The Shining. Yeah. Sam. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. All work and no play makes Sam a dull boy. Woody. All right. We're talking about the creep, you guys. I turn it over to you. Chops is on the track. Chops on the track. He's the maker of the beat. This was definitely one where we liked the beat and had flagged it, and we were like, we like this kind of spooky, kooky vibe. Right? Spooky, in your words? Yeah. I always call things spooky and kooky. It is a spooky, kooky vibe. It's not a terrible way to describe that. Yeah. Yeah. But still got a little bit of thumper in it, and I don't remember how it started. Was it we were like, we want to do a dance song, like where we have an original dance? I'm sure we, that always is kind of circling us at some point during every recording. It's always kind of circling the drain with us. Yeah. It's always just kind of right next to the trash can. I do feel like we talked about it a lot of times in various things. We're like, yeah, we should have a dance. I mean, we do it in Popstar with the donkey roll. Exactly. It was a double down. But yeah, I mean, I'm guessing Akiva made up the dance. He's really good at that. It always just sort of flows through him. Oh, that's interesting. That's probably true. So Keeve is the choreographer of the tree? I feel like you came up with the creep and with the donkey roll. Am I wrong? Yeah. Yeah, I feel like I stand up and just make the most awkward moves on purpose and go, it's something like this. It is an interesting thing though, Seth, because Jorm and I are more into like physical moving kind of performance. Yeah, but I like acting awkward. That's what all of Just You Guys is. And Virginia Horson's. Those are all my moves. I choreographed Virginia Horson's. Yeah. Oh my God, you worked with Horson? Yeah. I wish we had more crystal clear memory of how it started, but I think it was basically exactly what you would think. It's tough when we don't have the memory trap Jorm, yeah? Yeah, Jorm's going to have a Jorm thorn and I'm going to set him up for it now, which is me and you, Andy, Must have done a lot of it without Yhorm. And then we're like, no, but you can get on it. like get on the chorus right and he did get on the chorus so it feels seth to your point like it's all three of us but if you actually pay attention yorm doesn't have a verse so you think it is but i think me and andy had kind of made the whole song yeah and then we were like you want to do the chorus with us and it'll feel like it's all of us in the video and then at one point he was like well let me just try to do a verse and he added it but the truth is that like we always talk about our song should be like two and a half minutes at most yes and so it just kept making the song too long and then again he'll yorm thorn us he was annoyed that we kind of deleted it we were like nah it didn't make it better uh it's 2 30 in the morning when i'm recording my responses to this episode um you guys are misremembering i was in the room for the entirety of the creep and was i think on the ones and twos as andy so eloquently put it um ones and twos is to turntables guys for those of you who don't know techniques 1200s um so i was in the room for all of it we were sort of working on together and uh yeah i had a verse about being under bleachers or something like that i was like at a high school football game or something like that and also i made the song weirder because i don't know whose verse was first or whatever maybe it was andy's or whatever but i was encouraging us to go weirder with the way we were talking and so that was my big contribution was that um like he was in particular got way weirder of like the way he was kind of freaking it um and yeah and then and then we all sort of collectively decided that it was it was too long um i i agreed with that i mean it was it was all good on that one i'm on a boat i'm still angry about but the creep i was like yeah no it's too long yes and it was a totally good verse is my recollection it was just about tonnage of the premise which is already a little soft yeah and and we were never that hot on the song there was a few things that happened we liked it enough we were like yeah this is fun one thing that happened this is jumping further ahead is when it got mixed we realized that like the simplicity of the chops beat like this is a compliment not back and handed that it was leaving enough room for like the bass to hit actually really hard yeah and usually we are attracted to very complicated dense beats that are really dynamic on their own before there's a voice but if you listen to a lot of modern rap yeah if you listen to a lot of modern rap like drake specifically is really minimalist in his beats and it allows his voice to really take up a lot of the speaker a lot of the frequency yes a lot of modern hip-hop a lot of trap is like so which of course stands for trapezoid keep going yeah a lot of trapezoids are like that this was more rectangular anyways so this was a little something that we weren't as hot on and then once it all got mixed we were like oh i actually like this more than i thought i did because it does as as andy said in his words uh thump in the trunk like a gorilla trying to get up out the trunk e40 yeah yeah yeah basically paraphrasing but yeah and then uh nikki minaj is the other huge thing yeah so she had done the verse on the kanye song monster yeah and this is before both of them became monsters in real life which was interesting akiva you can't say that i think you can at this point i think it's this isn't a toe on the line situation no these are these are so far gone it's fucking nuts so let's just get that out there i personally am gonna stand on the sidelines on this one okay well that's interesting yeah do you think in the end the song was a curse keith guess verse didn't realize that they were big they were slow like jay-z rick ross jay-z and he's doing great yeah jay-z's rick ross is on monster too i haven't heard monster in a decade it's by the way top to bottom fantastic yeah it's an all-timer yeah and and we're big on the we separate the art art from the artist on this pod that's a huge thing for us remember the moment that moment was all about like whoa nikki minaj just stole it and she's on this track with these huge yeah and she's basically an unknown to the real world and then she's on this track with these huge fucking artists so it's only people really paying attention who are like it's a bridesmaids melissa mccarthy moment yes for nikki minaj right where she's coming onto a thing with superstars of the genre and being the thing that just pops right out of it yes but it's not a household name by any stretch so my point is it was not that hard for us to get her on the song right because the opportunities hadn't started rolling in do you think kanye when the verses came in i mean i by the way i'm sure much has been written and said about this was like oh no she we got to put her on the song but it's unclear but it was definitely this is very very like common knowledge like oh nikki minaj popped off on monster and stole the song yeah i think that's true but for instance i remember when we got back to snl in september this is how fast she blew up we told people we have a song with nikki minaj and got blank stares from anybody in the cast or writer that we brought it up to not a single person knew who she was in the beginning of this year and then by january she was a big enough deal to be the musical guest that's how we got her on the song and then we got to see how quick it went from zero to 100 so is that why this is the week you did the song because you shot her for the video yeah correct but we did the song in the summer i didn't realize she had already been on the track yeah when we reached out it was awesome because we were like we know she's amazing it would have been much harder to get her later of course that this was like there wasn't that much incoming business especially from big things like snl which always helped you know grease the tracks for us i want to say one more thing about monster which is it's still like genuinely it's a great verse it's so funny to me that jay-z's verse starts sasquatch godzilla king kong loch ness i mean it's so funny i'll never go against hove but it's you know the beginning of that verse i wouldn't put in my top five jay-z verses let's just say it's so funny it is like on theme though he didn't just go do some random stuff so funny i love it so much it's like someone fun with it it's so much fun it was like he was having fun with it it's like they were like trying to gas monsters on like ten thousand dollar pyramid it's so fun i love it i have no shade for it it's i it makes me smile every time i hear it sounded like a pretty well-constructed burn well that's all look i'm gonna go family feud family family feud better he's a guy at the end they have one left and that's what he's yelling from the end it's a family pharaoh do that it's a family yelling out the final category for scary okay one at a time uh andy we wrote the verse and you did a ten yeah for nikki's part yeah yeah and we weren't sure because she is a real rapper who writes her own stuff how she would feel about getting it yes but she was also ready to be a pop star and liked it and was like no this is good and just did it and i also remember keeve you experimented as you always do to try and do the like chopped up thing in vocals that was really hot at the moment the like and she was one of the main people doing it exactly and so we were like oh let's put it into her style and do a bunch of nikki minaj style edit yeah being audio flourishes you pulled it off famously my bruv hey thank you yeah once we had her on and it was mixed then we were like oh shit now we better really believe in this one but it was one of the few ones that because she was the musical guest we used snl money to do a more expensive video and because it had to be that week i i also remember this this is one of my memories from being on set with her is that because it was such a nice compliment she was so new in it that she they were they were uh bad and she knew it and she it wasn't on set keith is when we she was recording her part at downtown records and we showed her some of ours and she was like why are your videos look better than mine oh it was there i wasn't looking at the monitor when we were shooting no no it was looking at a laptop of us showing her one of our other videos i don't remember okay i in my memory i've moved it to us looking at the monitors on set i want to say we were showing her one of our big ones just in our minds being like let's put her at ease so she knows we're legit right probably showed her i'm on a boat or whatever or or jizz in my pants yes but she did say exactly that to her management yeah he's like why is they they're joking and their video looks better than mine and and i like it like because we spent all your money on bud lights he said specifically that wasn't a real thing seth but yeah i remember being so uh flattered by that but also respecting her because we had watched her videos and be like oof her videos are bad look bad i didn't remember no but they were just the very first little i mean she went on to make the highest levels starship videos yeah but like anaconda is an amazing looking how come why do you think that the butts i don't even look at the butts i'm just looking at lighting me too i'm like are there butts in this what great lighting yeah yeah so wait you think the lighting is great but you don't even notice what's being lit that's why there's other things in the frame seth you pig sorry yeah okay sorry i'm a pig i'm gonna sit this one out i mean whatever they want to do that's their opinion uh just because and before we talk about uh did you see t-pain's tweet because i'm gonna put it in the chat no which one um this one the one you put in the chat yeah oh i see i see it's a mild spoiler i don't think so so now i know that ann hathaway plays a character who's worried about where her husband is and then yeah she's like where's my husband and then odysseus is us going i'm on a boat i'm on a boat it's pretty good it's real good and then t-pain wrote poseidon look at me i like it a lot Should we do a rewatch of The Old Creep? Oh, yeah, sure. I thought you'd never ask. All right, Seth, how many views do you think ours has? The Creep, 17 mil. On our post? With Nicki Minaj? Oh, gotcha. I'm going to let you take that again. Times 10, 170 million. 120. Well, now we're humiliated. Yeah, that worked horribly in both directions. Why'd you go so hard, Keith? Okay, but now let's. Oh, I mean, right out of the gate, we can't forget that we got John Waters to be in the video. Oh, yeah. Well, that's going to come up right away. Yeah, okay, well, let's get there. Should we. I mean, I don't think this thing has really hard laughs in it. That's part of why we were a little unsure about it. But should we do the one with SNL laughs, guys, or this one? Let's do with. Yeah, with. All right, here we go. Hi, I'm John Waters, and this is The Creep. When you're out at a club and you see. So, how did we get that? Because that was a video ad, right? We didn't have that before it, right? Correct. Sorry, not AD, ADD. It was an idea that we had. We were talking about how our looks in the video were so overtly John Waters-inspired that we were like, it'd be great to get his blessing, basically. Because we're huge fans, obviously. You didn't think to get him until you were shooting the videos and the looks were so John Waters-y? Kind of. We hadn't really thought about the video as much when we were recording. The album was still not coming out till May, and so there was a lot of loose ends on the album still. You know what, though? That's absolutely untrue. We did think about the look a lot because it's all in the lyrics. Yeah, but we just hadn't reached out in any way to anybody, really. Yeah, we didn't know we'd be shooting it yet. We didn't, at the time of writing it, know that Nicki would get on it. As you know, Seth, SNL guests are often very last-minute announced. So we only realized Nicki Minaj was even coming Right. a few weeks before, and we're like, oh, shit, Nicki Minaj is coming. I also want to mention that my first daughter is three weeks old, and I had no intention of coming into the show. That's right. Then all of a sudden, it was like, the guys were like, oh, my God, Nicki Minaj is going to be on. And I was already a dad. We have to do it. And we were like, it has to happen. And I was like, oh, my God, Liz, this has to happen. So we hired a night nurse for the first time because I was like, you need help, and I'm going to be gone for four days this week, and it's going to be crazy. And I remember it feeling crazy because I was like, all of a sudden, at work all night And your night nurse had a crazy rider, right? Yeah, she needed a lot of weird stuff. Hers was all like weird, like sex stuff, like dildos and things. Yeah, it was really weird. Doesn't put a lot of confidence in it. But anyway. It might have been more of a Gregory Isaacs night nurse. Am I right, Andy? She was the only one that could quench a dishear-turst. Turst. Yeah, no one else can quench dishear-turst. Yeah. He was insane. In San Francisco, I believe, we reached out just through SNL talent department, I assume, just complete blind ask. I don't know if we sent a crew or if he had some local people he could use. Somebody went to his apartment or house. They set up a green screen, got a close-up, and he just said the line for us, and then they just sent us the clip, and we just had a little green screen to him and put him into this TV, and we were overjoyed. It's great. Seeing him makes you so happy. I'm trying to find the email correspondence with him. That's why I'm sort of looking down. It makes you so happy to see him. And it also kind of just positions the whole video because this is a weird video about kind of pervy guys. Creeps. And that's kind of his world. Yeah, but also benevolent creeps. Yes. Hopefully not actually crossing any lines. Yeah. Hi, I'm John Wars, and this is The Creep. When you're out at a club And you see a fly girl Do the creep And do the creep And if you want to make friends At the ATM Do the creep And do the creep Where we got a new dance Soak it up on your feet It's real easy to do And it's called the creep Let your hands flop around Like a marionette Pop your knees up and down Vaguely, which Southern rapper do you think you're kind of evoking? We don't do impressions, but we pretend to kind of be there. I mean, there's. What do you think? There's so many. I don't know, but it feels specific to me. Not as specific as T.I. in. No. Sex, but. It's maybe a little more, um. Oh, fuck, I'm going to get it wrong and be embarrassed. But leave in Tupac, right? Yeah. Yeah, you got to keep Tupac. Your cred in that department is fun. Yeah. I mean, even if I pronounce everybody right, I'm such a distance fourth, I just feel like lean into it. Now, I want to say before we even hear me that I cringe at mine a little because I was trying to do an impression of somebody specific and it might have been. It might have been Lil Wayne on a very specific song, but no one can sound anything like Lil Wayne. And we always kind of have, like, different cadences and flows in our head that are kind of vaguely an amalgam of things. And we know none of us can actually do an impression, so it always just becomes us. But I'm doing, like, a weirdo because I was like, oh, I'll do a creepy voice. And I kind of hear it and I think it sounds just kind of lame. Well, I like it. Well, you might not. January 13th, 2011. John Waters. Great. He likes the song and is interested. So when did this air? Oh, so we did ask ahead of time. Yeah. This is airing January 29th. Yeah. So we got ahead of it a little bit knowing he was coming. And it was saying he's in San Francisco and could figure out a way to put himself on tape. That's awesome. But we started knowing this was on the horizon. Yes. And then I have an email with his whole schedule explaining why he couldn't be in New York. So scheduling has been a big part of your life even before the pod. What kind of stuff did he have? Tell me about his schedule. He was in SF till Sunday, then Baltimore from the 24th to the 26th. Books solidly. Each day. Tampa, January 27th and the 28th. Then he's back in Baltimore. Jury duty, et cetera. Yeah. Damn. He's in New York February 3rd through 8th. He keeps it very real. Yes, bro. Okay. My memory of tracking down John Waters is that we had to actually do this outside of SNL. And I think that we did it through a crew from Caviar. Caviar is a company that represents me for commercial directing. And this small little splinter crew was in San Francisco. And then they went over to where he was like at his hotel room and shot this for us. But I believe we had costumes and makeup go over there as well. So it was, you know, it was a real deal crew. But I don't think this is through SNL. There's really no shame in giving away a famous person's schedule from 15 years ago. But then the jury duty thing, like what if there's a guy, what if there's a guy who's like on death row right now who's like, I got screwed. And now he's like, hold up. He's listening to this pod. He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. It was Waters. And then we sent him a bottle of wine. Or he sent us one. I'm sure we sent him one. Anyway, I imagine John Waters just lapping up jury duty. Yeah. Oh my God. Like, oh, this is the worst. I love it. I feel like he would respond to jury duty the way haters Keith Morrison would. Like, oh. All right. Let's see you guys keep creeping. This one's fine. That verse was fine. That was not the one I'm talking about. It's the later one where I change into like a different character. One technical thing of note. I believe some of these shots are anamorphic. Yeah. That's why the aspect ratio actually changes. See how it goes more widescreen here, Seth? Yep. So we used anamorphic lenses because we wanted to get those lens flares like Hype Williams would do on his videos or basically because the anamorphic. You can say JJ. Well, isn't that timing right? Yeah. Star Trek had already come out, right? I like, by the way, just for what I'm, I'm sure we'll be at Yhorm Thorn is you guys were like, he had a verse, but it was great. We couldn't use it. And meanwhile, Keith's like, my second verse I don't love. Yeah, we could have erased my second one. You're like, all these years later, I hate my second verse. Anyway, the problem with Yhorm was it made it too long. Listen, his might've sucked. His might've been bad and Andy was trying to be nice. I don't know what to tell you. I can't remember. We gotta go back to Yhorm. Yhorm. This is so funny listening to this. No, as we went, it just fell. It felt like it didn't need three people on it. That's the reason why. So I don't think there is a version that has, I don't know if even I did a full verse. We started it and then we were like, ah, it doesn't need it. So that's what happened. And to keep his second verse is good. I definitely encourage him to get weirder. Me and Andy did for sure. He's just, he's just a little scared guy. I'm scared of being the accomplished rapper that he is. Frapper. Seth, no. You're going to get to the key of second verse and then we're all going to be like, actually, it's great. It's so fun. I love his second verse. It's so fun. Okay. So we sent him a bottle of wine, Seth. Great. That does make more sense. He wrote back, thank you for the lovely, very good, totally unnecessary bottle of wine. I look forward to seeing it. Anyway, for a sneak, I guess I'd rather look like a perv than an asshole. I'm sure that was in response to something I had written. Yeah. I'm sure it will be hysterical, and I love the song, John Waters. And we all, like, started crying. So sweet. The best. Hold on one second. I found a creep with Andy, not Nikki. Oh. Well, let's listen, and then we can decide. Should we finish the song first? Yeah, let's finish the song, and then we'll go back. That's a really good idea, Seth. You're such a good, you really keep a nice baseline. Fucking hate myself so much. This is one of the first videos we ever did where we had one big warehouse in Brooklyn. Great freeze frame right here. It's the only one at SNL where we did this. Pop a freeze frame on this one, Kev, so everybody can see where Keeva froze. Her faces in the video are making good, bad faces. And I think, this is where I want to say, I feel as though my memory was that Yorm had an equal amount in this song because the, ah, is such a Yorm. Yes. And also, he's doing the most with this, too. And you really aren't paying attention to who's doing what. We're all just together. Yeah. We're all just a bunch. We're a bunch of creeps. It's a, yeah, you're a trio. We're a creep cluster. I was going to say, this is one of the only videos we did where it was all in one warehouse. Like, you can see these are like a backdrop of the beach where they pour some sand on the ground and then that little gold background with the anamorphic lens and blah, blah, blah. So are the characters in the song The Creep sex pests? Hit us in the titties. And is that funny? I'd say they are. Yeah, of course they are. That's my personal opinion. See, now you're a different guy. I like how quickly you were like, are we sex pests? And the next shot was just a reel. Are we seeing, what's behind your back, Pete? Is it like a. I think it's just a backdrop of blue just to like. It's not what we're standing on? Or maybe it's a piece of the tree. Yeah. And then the window frame, I think the camera's not locked off. It's like on the steadicam still. So it's slightly moving to the left or something. Yeah. So you feel the frame moving, the window frame moving while the tree is bouncing with it. Now you're doing someone else here. Yeah. I mean, it's cute. You know, you're almost doing Scarface. Is that. Yeah. Who am I doing? Yeah. Is he doing Scarface or what? The thing is, we couldn't let Yoram do a second verse. I had two voices. That is right. And this song was done. By the way, that dance I'm doing, whatever that is, this frame, I'm going to go back a teeny bit more so you can see it. This is a quintessential, what we're talking about, just awkward, whatever that is. Not that. That's it too. But this. Yeah. Great. We like that. That guy's got some squirm in him. Yeah. I came out clean. Yeah. Yeah. Which translates to wearing a full suit. Yeah. He came out clean. Not just with no fluids on me. No. Yeah. It wasn't a Sergio. It's great. It's a great verse, Keev. You're wrong. I mean, I get it. It's fine. I get why you're. But it's great. It's just a choice. You're having fun with it. All that matters is that Yoram didn't get a verse. You know what I mean? His was like. Hey, I'm also a creep. And we're like, that doesn't really fit. I'm also a creep. Who are you even doing? Are you trying to do Sinatra? That's not really the genre. Yoram Thorne us up, bud. Hit us with them thorns, buddy. Okay. Another Yoram Thorne. No. When I was doing my verse, I was getting weirder. And again, encouraged you guys to be weirder. And it inspired a re-record. So this is why. Keeva's in particular got way weirder. So I take full credit. And again, I wasn't upset about getting cut out of this one. I also love that you guys don't remember that you. Keeva keeps saying that I wasn't there. Because I full-on was for all of this. Usually, in any song that you hear, though, that is two guys and then third guy's missing, yes, that has been sort of recorded without the third guy in the room. Usually. But that is not the case for this one. All right. Let's see Nikki here. Is that Scream? I don't remember being in the song. Is that an audience member? The studio audience was fucking amped that he was there. Listen to this scream. It sounds like a canned sound effect scream. It's perfect. It sounds like the Sondheim scream. Willem. Wilhelm? The Sondheim. Sondheim. The Stephen Sondheim scream. It's the one he famously did at the premiere of Into the Woods. What is it? The Wilhelm scream? Bernadette Peters was fabulous. And he couldn't believe it. And he screamed and went down in history. It's the Wilhelm scream. Yeah, there you go. Scream. Helm. I believe the Wilhelm scream is in Naked Gun for the heads. Where? Where? When Danny Houston is flying through the air when he flies off the motorcycle. And he's about to land in the fountain at the ending. And you hear the scream. And it is that scream. Spoiler. Another interesting scream is the film scream. And scream two, three, four, five, six, and seven. And obviously the painting, the scream. Seth's favorite painting. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Munch. He's always just like, that painting gets me. Yeah. Like, if you wanted to sum up me, Seth Meyers, the scream. Remember how I always say, like, oh, my God, I wish it was food because I would have munch for lunch. You always say that. He keeps reposting on his Instagram the scream. And then it just says, parenting. Yeah, no, I'm like, me. He doesn't get the likes. He thinks, oh, the algorithm didn't get it this time. I must have done the wrong time of day because it never gets. He puts up the scream and says, TFW, you're trying to schedule da cast. Yeah. I've actually reached out to social media just at large about the algorithm and how I feel like it's overlooking that. Yeah. Something must have got messed up because this deserves way more. Hey, guys, could you take a look at this? Could I get some human eyeballs on this and just what's, what's going on over there with the algo? Do you guys know TFW is that feeling when? Okay, whatever. I'll just write it out next time. All right. Well, here's the scream. But the song is creepy. We could have had a scream here. It adds energy. It's good, is my point. Yeah, it's Halloween-y. Yeah. We should have added this exact scream into the actual song. That wasn't out yet. Yeah. and ogling. Little did they know that for me they were modeling and I would laugh. And they would dance. So pop out your peepers and twerk out your sneakers. Don't sleep. Come on, get your creep on. When you're gone, get to sweating off the pride. I don't win. Do the creep. And do the creep. When you're sleeping to awake and you see a deep kick. Do the creep. Come to the creep. When the judges are hiding and you can't control your body. Do the creep. And do the creep. So get your knees flexing and your arms T-rexing and creep. Do the creep. Don't forget to smile. That lady screamed two more times. It was very exciting that you got T-rex arms in there, Andy. T-rexing. Arms T-rexing. Yeah, T-rexing. And again. A lot of our characters get arrested by the end of the video. Yeah. Which I think is your way of saying we know they're not heroes. They're anti-heroes, if anything. They're anti-heroes. And they've received their comeuppance. Yeah, they're going to jail. You don't have to worry about it. They're going to jail. They going to jail? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they were already in court in orange murder suits. You think the charges stick? Are they still in jail? 2011. Are they out now? They're out now. But here's my question. Did they go back in? One of their dads donated a sizable to a certain PAC political action committee, just like mine. And they were released. Andy just got up like there was a bee went in his shirt. It felt like some kind of bug, I'll tell you that. He's up in bug country right now. I don't want to blow up his spot, but he's up in bug country. Yeah, he is in bug country. Country living is the best. It's very fun. And it does feel like the three of you. And I like it. I like that about it. So we are unable to find Yorm's lost verse. Let's listen to this and then we can decide if it was worth it. Hold on. Maybe he has it. So, oh, yeah, he probably plays it for all his friends. This is the way it was supposed to be. Can you believe those guys? And I wasn't doing Sinatra, by the way. It's Jimmy Buffett. Hey, this is Andy's demo. So this is what Nicki Minaj would have heard when we gave it to her. When I was a girl, I'd creep in the boys' locker room. High deep inside, it was my little creep's stocker room. As they disrobed, I was oogling and ogling. Little did they know that for me, they were modeling. And I would laugh, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. And they would dance, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la. So pop, pop, pop your peepers and tweak out your sneakers. Don't sleep. Come on, get your creep on with me. And you don't get to sweat. - There you go. - It was very good. - You're doing kind of a spooky. vince and pricey kind of a guy yeah i mean no shade bill hater that is really rich andy thank you so much because did you know that bill famously did vince and price on the show oh i knew someone did and i couldn't remember who yes yes it was bill it was bill lane hello i did it before he showed up people forget we did that sketch before bill got hired hello happy halloween everybody and now kiev do yours uh i told you before lolita no worries no that's the wrong day i know i was kidding that was james mason it was just mason it was a joke um hello yep all right i'm just gonna go i'm gonna go i've got the treatment here in my email say words from it let's see download download look hit us with some creep cues yorm will be hopefully back next time and can get involved more yeah we can talk more about creep yeah of course it's an interesting one in that we always were like it's fun and then if you look at like the numbers it really did quite well and that was a nice surprise for us yeah it's one of our bigger songs it's really beloved yeah so like if it was your wedding song hit us in the titties so we wrote nightclubs simple shot of girls dancing our three creeps creep in that was the beginning there so our nightclub ended up just being a black backdrop where we put smoke and lights yes uh atm a girl takes out money our three creeps creep in so true that happened that's so true andy verse one a tv dance party soul train slash american bandstand uh slash the grind remember them tv the grind do i andy describes the creep to people what do we want it to look like 70s 80s 90s that's a question on cutaways knees popping up and down chickening your neck a red curtain set up andy is a marionette puppet with strings from his limbs like in sync uh we got that akiva verse akiva enters the set pulls his waistband up cutaways ankles expecting a flood yeah we got air covered in mud pencil mustache being trimmed peepers popping oh yeah this is a very clean treatment and we really did check each thing off chorus two beach backdrop girl laying on the beach our three creeps creep in yeah she a country beach in a treetop looking through bedroom window at girl maybe a set just a treetop and a window flat and a bedroom flat question mark see we're being efficient we believe you now let's go through is there anything we put on there that didn't end up exactly in the video and then a momento checking this is good stuff don't you touch a frame of this don't you touch a single frame of this here's a note for the nicky verse is that we were like we knew it'd be a tougher order we want some lockers she can attempt to get into even if she can't fit all the way that's okay then we'll build the inside of a locker like a stylized version with some slats behind her and a towel jersey and helmet in it for her to perform in so we were like we understood it might be like we're not going to stuff her in a locker we need a fake locker that we create just to see her eyes peeping yeah we really just did everything and then at the very bottom it says maybe one other performance setup and that's what became the gold with the anamorphic yeah and it's not that long of a treatment because it's uh surgical is what i would say yeah uh speaking of presumed heights nicky was uh shorter than i was expecting yeah yeah she little she's like five two or something that's what that movie little nicky's about oh that's like a biopic that's some artistic license yeah on the adaptation yeah i'm gonna give you one guess who's in little nicky and it has to do with this pod this episode of this pod uh john waters jonathan davies that's it oh i said john yeah you got it does that kind of count yeah sure yeah does it count yeah as long as we can go back and uh re-record my uh two-pack no that stays no matter what i die on the hawk just cut that in and then i think i did it a third time there's no way that's going uh oh oh oh hey jack black this is a rough one for you today you could probably tell by how excited he was that i bailed three short and seth got it with hints but also list maybe yeah i listed so i don't count i was actually i meant to look to make sure that uh i kind of wanted to tell you what my uh what my list was what were your listers i'm gonna hold on give me one sec i'll be there i promise hold on talk you guys just talk about something else real quick how many words is it usually on average today was 48 words because i tried it the other day because i have the games uh i'm past the games paywall now so i was like i'll give a spelling bee a try i got 50 words and i was still just that solid and i was like well oh yeah that's a bad day sometimes it's a lot that's a bad day okay those are days they shouldn't even do a b if that's the best thing what were your listers my man all right i'm going from the bottom up uh papilloma yep that's one i didn't get tail lamp yep lipoma yeah lipoma i got tail lamp i didn't get mail lot yeah am i out i was gonna be maybe my aunt maybe soft l's there is it my aunt or mail lot i don't know it's spelled mail out but you know these words um i'm going from the bottom up i did get to tommy tomatillo tom tit impala on my own so that's something but yeah at least four listers minimum is it my lot it's a it's a woman's one-piece swimsuit so shockingly we didn't know it yeah that's our favorite kind of swimsuit to look at right uh also we've been getting updates and i'll see if i can get another one uh uh hamilton whiteman friend of the pod has been updating us on his health situation oh yeah i heard he was dying yeah he was dying he licked a slug oh is that what it was and uh yeah that's what it was um but i just if you want to send in a voice note and just let us know are there is there anything we can do for you any final requests you have any um i don't know loose ends you need tied up let us know and i think the window of my podcast has closed all right a sweet little visitor uh all right okay um for next time jesse eisenberg host mark zuckerberg came on the show oh yeah we have i think maybe first was this the triple zuck open i think so and definitely a herb welch there's some fun stuff to talk about wait wait wait we gotta hold on there's an audio clip here here's a transcript of the new york times ad are you ready hi i'm sam azurski and i create the game spelling bee and letterboxd on a daily basis and i have this thing called promesthesia i see color when i'm listening to music i'm tracy bennett this is the second person yeah you'd be tracy bennett then i get to pick the wordle every day which is not as easy as it sounds the fun fact about me is that i'm descended from a witch who was put on trial in salem wow amazing brag andy be joe fagigliano he probably has a really heavy italian accent yeah do it like luigi do it do it like luigi amazing and i'm joe fagigliano i created your daily mini crossword i've been making these puzzles for the times for over 10 years now which is like a three thousand minis i am a bag in the universe for any new five letter word excellent but then he said what's everyone's fastest mini time and someone says four seconds yeah so it is somebody said one of them it's probably sam yeah and then he says i'll go find it i have my screenshot somewhere i don't understand how it's physically possible i don't think there's a fuck you andy in there though yeah there's no fucking which is disappointing obviously it is implied i mean it's implied if you say you're doing it in four seconds he's saying fuck you andy oh my god i think it'd be a good test learn how to do it on a computer when you just type the word hit enter and it automatically goes the next one do a mini where you know it all memorize it and then try to do it again because it's just typing in five words in four seconds you can definitely do that right i don't know how you can do a mini a second time unless you have like a whole other well you'll just go i'll just tell you what it is i do the mini the second time i'm a burner you've got those lester freeman wire phones right that's right just so i can get one on wordle check it out all one i get it right every time in one i don't know i can't explain it i get it right every time uh all right love you dudes love you later arnold later quades later emily in paris au revoir quades