The speaker reflects on death, burial traditions, and the cultural absurdity of the cemetery industry, proposing that funerals should be simpler, more sustainable, and less wasteful—like burying a naked body to minimize environmental impact. They critique the commercialization of death, pointing out the emptiness of mausoleums and the emotional toll of visiting graves. The conversation expands into pop culture, analyzing horror films like *Welcome to Derry* and *Speak No Evil* as examples of deeply disturbing yet compelling storytelling that challenge societal norms. The host also examines modern fame and content creation, highlighting the contradiction between relatability and the hyper-commercialized lifestyles of influencers. Through humor and satire—such as imagining a dog rescued from a prison or a viral fame trajectory—they question how society values authenticity, consumption, and identity. Ultimately, the piece serves as a satirical yet thoughtful critique of cultural norms, from death rituals to internet fame, using personal anecdotes and absurdity to explore deeper truths about human behavior and connection.
well here we are why would anyone want to steal a dead naked body i can i say something i think
it's a great icebreaker i'm not promoting grave robbing i know this is right off the top of the
episode but i'm saying can i tell you something this is some real country shit i've been thinking
a lot about death lately right me too right too i've been having waves of unwellness that make
me constantly think about death okay jesus christ and i remember my stepdad's funeral right on top
of the confusion of being young and having a paternal figure die yeah right country people
we're doing with dealing with a burial and we're so country not all of all of us have a full dress
outfit you gotta shovel it yourself no the day of the funeral my mom said we need your dress shoes
for your stepdad's body and i remember standing at the coffin and thinking
why are we burying people in shoes mary's resources like and then it would go why are
we burying people why are we bringing them in clothes why are we why are we burying pharaohs
in gold and jewels why i just think what the burying is a it's sort of a the blue light
turning on at kmart or whatever it's a little it's salesy it's boo-boo we should just it's
the most do it the most um what do you call it uh smallest effect on the the footprint carbon
footprint smallest footprint and most affordable to the people
right i've got true if you really loved your father you'd go for the mahogany you know like
that's crazy right it's upselling coffins mary that is diabolical i have three solutions to
this quandary what is it number one slingshot into space i knew you were gonna say but that's
but we talked about no no no no carbon footprint that's the biggest one okay so number one is
really donate to science cadavers for medical students that's what i plan on doing they're
gonna get a lot of boners but that's not my problem they're gonna leave with more questions
and they got answers how did she live this long so there's all black liquid inside and no organs
what's that um no diet coke can what is that are the lungs made of wire um and then the the last
one is just cremation right but then you gotta rub cream all over someone
but for real nation i i don't mean to be too morbid that's very it really made me think very
funny don't unless your mom loved the
earrings but even then keep them keep them and then you have your mom's earrings yes don't put
don't put your shoes on your dad don't very naked if anything how are you gonna sell those loafers
when you need to get a dime bag later on right if i get buried just put a bikini my naked body in
the hole and then throw dirt on it i know it's kind of unceremonious but like why are we wasting
shit no i know it's not horrible it's very practical i think that the cemetery industrial
complex really needs a re-org and a refresh and a refresh and a refresh and a refresh and a refresh
come to jesus literally right you know i think about that a lot i think about those mausoleums
girl what's inside there a rave is it a secret entrance to like a factory party have you ever
been to like hollywood's forever cemetery of course it's just these i mean hallways
liminal spaces so huge up the wall huge nothing pissing contest by the way special that you need
to be rotting in a box in a high rise yeah we got little miss plaque down here overgrown shrubs right
can't even see her name and then we've got the fucking
Taj Mahal with like john j guggenheimer whatever the hell jingle heimer schmidt thank you it's like
okay so what right does that make my grief as a the daughter of this man does that soften my grief
or so does it maybe gives me a place to go and do what cry have sex vandalize it's stupid in my
experience visiting someone's grave makes me feel worse you can visit their memory anytime in your
mind palace
no but i'm not that come on cream nation cream nation nation cream nation yeah
we are the son of the cream nation what the fuck is that the thing we've got orcs again bringing
dogs to work isn't always the best thing no that's why i keep my child at home right my dog
is my child my child is in my hot car i don't have a dog but if i did i think i would be somebody
who just have it all the time i know it's irritating but what kind of dog is that what kind of dog is that
how would you have whatever i can get well i i feel like i'd be good into the um i would i would
rescue and i would be so uppity about it no no sober people get sober and then it's all they
talk about i would rescue and the way every conversation would get like shoehorned yes into
rescuing and your dog would be a two-legged dog rescued from vietnam right or north or some like
uh two-legged guantanamo one-legged one-legged yeah one-legged no eyes it would be like a dog
like the yeah but it would be happy so happy to have you as its doting parent yeah be aware like
a crossbody no say i have a gun to your head and you like we're going to a breeder bitch
no questions asked what breed are you choosing oh i mean at the risk of sounding crazy
i think you got to go really big or really small we were just in where were we hawaii hawaii yeah
and we saw those giant dogs that was pretty cool what kind of dog that was a
horse those were horses mastiff it's marmaduke great dames or mastiffs marmaduke horses
marmaduke is that that was a clydesdale yeah and i my first thought was oh my god to to turn on the
tv and lay on the floor with this dog hang out with the dog on the floor suffocated today i don't
think i'd ever invite dogs on furniture but i would love to hang on the floor with the dog
rub the belly you're such a good boy of course and it's also like if you're a petite big titted
woman with a wet t-shirt walking your dog safety
or i would get the tiniest dog i would get one of those truly like cotton balls with a little face
okay that's hanging out of your little labubu purse a hundred percent run the body all day
yeah i saw a guy at the airport today he got off the plane from hawaii i need a backpack with the
dog's head just sticking out the top i do love that and i thought he's the dog's probably happy
yeah i love it when the women have it at the checkout line in the grocery store and they're
clearly drunk sure oh get into this a friend of mine we're in palm springs a friend of mine was
like let's stop at the grocery store and get wine or have to get cheese and crackers they don't think
we're drunks
have you heard of that that's getting a charcuterie just as a cover that's too
people don't care come on some people just like baby it's noon i know how many packs of crackers
you can buy baby it's noon but also palm springs the old gays noon is five they've been up since
six one o'clock somewhere hundred percent but i would oh mary talk about death oh let's talk
about it i watched a movie so disturbing so you know a while ago they did a a remake speak no evil
it's called with james mackerel and i watched a movie called speak no evil it's called with james
mackervoy it was a horror movie about i love james mackervoy oh and he's jacked in this he's
jacked and split too yeah big big stroke at material anyways it's a remake would i do him
right cream nation right he is quite gorgeous and my god what an actor exactly split and glass last
week mama he would split me in with the into my glass coffee table having these entire conversations
with himself as different characters yeah i don't i listen to this pod and i'm like who's what i can't
voice i'm like what are you doing i know i get ad accused for ads that like vincent price i'm like i
can't do that or like i'm like i'll just do the weird one and also not just the voice but believing
the character and switching back and forth yeah yeah yeah it's wild wild i'm gonna drag 17 years
and i can barely do a character that i invented thank you i've been doing drag 25 years and i
can't walk in a heel right that's true but so this uh so this speak no evil speak no evil i remember
the commercials mary we saw the trailers in theaters we saw these eight minute trailers
that showed the entire fucking movie i swear to god but it's a remake of a danish film of the same
name and let me tell you something about that movie spoiler alert dear listeners on the 405 and
the 110 this is so twit it's so i did see this movie it's so fucking sad it's very like suita
right mama she's trying to escape in the end of the car right it was so
i was like i heard i was like oh this is the danish version is so much like crazier and i'm
like oh let's check i was like let's check it out and i was like last year i watched three christmas
movies that the color purple the color purple and fried green tomatoes classic holiday films i mean
if you're trying to avoid tim allen what else do you have do you know what i mean the tim allen
christmas industrial complex is deep and vicious but it was crazy it was like it was so girl they
just get pelting james mcavoy's mentally ill he used to be no no no no this is the the danish
one the danish one it's fucked it's fuck it up it's fucked did you watch that one it's in danish
i think i watched the james mcavoy one yes oh no that's the one i watched no that's the remake
this is the original what is it called again speak no evil okay yes i remember looking up the movie
and being like this is so fucked i went on wikipedia and that's how i found out it's a
remake of a danish but i didn't see the original are you talking about the original i'm talking
about the original okay yeah yeah no so like you know how the little boy goes and he shows that his
been cut off well fast forward it's all about this couple that can't say no they're too nice
they're too it's all about like this this sadistic fucking evil couple taking advantage of these
polite families who just can't like they're like oh i do remember this now yes yes yes but this
this escalates and towards the end they go back there's flirting they will they go back because
the little girl needs her bunny oh i remember i'm like mama girl the way that
that's like running into the house the child runs into the house for their yeah the animal
or their little boo-boo let them burn i was like in this whole plot the whole thing got rolling by
The dad looking for a bunny.
And then they met this couple, whatever.
So the bunny is like, I was just like, fuck this fucking bunny.
You're about to get pelted with rocks naked until you're dead, bitch.
Right.
Fuck the bunny.
Fuck the bunny.
Oh, it was so sad and frustrating and horrible.
Well, it's hard for me to turn on the TV for anything, for any reason.
What about Welcome to Derry?
But I am watching Welcome to Derry.
New episode last night.
I didn't see it, but I saw that chomp, chomp, chomp.
Come to mama.
The first episode was bracing because, spoilers.
Spoilers.
They really introduced you to a bunch of characters, kids, and they make you feel like, oh, this
is, you know, I love Stephen King.
And they were like, okay, this is our Losers Club of 1962.
This is the, this is the kids we're going to follow.
We're getting introduced to their dad, their family dynamics, all that.
Most of them die in the end of the first episode.
And you're left being like, oh shit, this is, don't forget, this is a story about a
child killer.
Who is still on the prowl decades later.
So we know that this is going to be kind of a ran through bloodshed.
Ran through bloodshed.
Incident.
Yeah.
And that the velocity and the bravery to kill children is something only Stephen King really
does.
The beginning, Salem's lot starts with two kids dying.
Two kids dying.
I love that.
Pet cemetery.
Cemetery.
Gage.
Gage dying.
My God.
I think it's because he knows, like, there's kind of nothing more universally, universally
abhorrent than children.
Getting killed.
Baby.
Have you seen the butterfly effect with Miss Ashton Kutcher?
Yes.
Long time ago.
I read the Wikipedia.
Dogs burning alive.
People getting arms chopped off.
Babies and moms, firecrackers exploding in their heads and dying.
I read the, I thought this was a lighthearted, like rom-com kind of like Gwyneth Paltrow sliding
doors.
Like what if, oh, it's morbidly graphically sad and crazy.
It's sad.
And then at the end, I believe he walks by this woman and doesn't introduce himself because
that thing's wrong.
That's what's going to happen.
Yeah.
It's sad.
Horrible.
It was, I was like, I read the book, the plot.
I was like, huh?
Eh.
I want to watch it.
Oh yeah.
But I did see the clip of the, um, I can't see the dog getting caught on fire.
Cause you know, but, but I did see the child and the mom opened the mailbox and yeah, that's
tough.
It's crazy.
I wonder with welcome to dairy.
Cause you know, like people love Pennywise and all of the movies have featured Pennywise
as kind of like Pennywise is baby.
Base self is a clown.
Yeah.
But in the book, which I've read two and a half times now, there's the, the entity of
it is like, it changes according to the known to be from space.
Oh, known to be like, it has no real form because it's changes forms all the time.
Wait, wait.
And so I wonder if people watching it, I'm at four episodes in, I wonder if people watching
it are like, where's my goddamn clown.
I think they are.
That's what they're saying.
Yeah.
But they're also, I think they're welcoming this new, I mean, really grisly, cool format
because in the book and in the movie, most of the time, Pennywise is matching your freak
of whatever you're the scaredest of.
He's a street Walker, right?
He's showing them titties.
Oh, no, he's not showing the titties.
Um, the, oh, the first episode was really sick when the girl eating the liver, put her
fingers up to the kid's face.
That was disgusting.
What about the pickles?
The pickles were crazy and sick.
The scariest part of it for me was the part where they go to the movie theater in the
first episode.
And they're trying to see what happens.
They're trying to see what happened to Maddie and they're watching the music, man.
And then he's in it.
You're dead friend being in the movie and then looking right at you.
It's an immediate.
No, you really, you leave the theater.
Yeah.
They're all trying to talk to the box office.
You get your money back.
You get your great child actors though, which I child actors can make or break it.
And they're all turning it.
Mary, I'm telling you, I'm as the entertainment czar of the United States and the world, I'm
going to lift my embargo on child actors just for this series and a few others.
This, this, um, main actress, I forget her character, Lily.
Every time she cries, I cry.
What a great crier.
Yeah.
Look at this.
Olipop ginger ale.
I know.
I forgot to mention, but while I just, I have been enjoying some really refreshing gulps
of this incredible drink.
What is this again?
Crisp apple.
It's good for our digestive health.
But with it, I wanted to ask you with Pennywise, do you prefer Bill Skarsgård versus, or in
a cage match, Bill Skarsgård versus Tim Curry?
Oh God.
I don't know.
Because I love how faggoty and fun Tim Curry is.
And I think he's also scary.
It's like a Freddy Krueger.
I think that the Skarsgård take is playing him more like a child.
Like he's trying to, even the face of Pennywise, they make him look like he has like full cheeks,
like a kid.
He's like the Gerber baby.
He talks like a kid.
Yeah.
His mouth is like a kid's mouth.
I just don't like all the, I don't like the wardrobe.
And I feel like, I feel like Tim Curry played it more like a pedophile, a kid killer.
He played it like, like a dirty old man.
Yeah.
But also he was like, Hey fat boy.
Right.
You know.
Something they like talk about more in this.
One of the things that I like about the series, which I do like is it's in 62.
So obviously like race is a big part of it.
It reminds me of Watchmen.
Yeah.
Because the guy who plays Will Hanlon is the guy who plays young hooded justice and Watchmen.
Same guy.
Same guy.
HBO.
Not just, it's not cable.
It's HBO.
And this is not an HBO.
The director.
Is that, I thought it was on Apple plus.
What's the director's name?
Something.
Ron Perlman.
No.
Him.
And Spielberg.
Andy Muschietti.
Oh yeah.
Is that right?
She knows her director.
Andy, Andy Muschietti, who did the movies.
Oh, no way.
And his sister is the producer.
It's a family affair.
I saw two last names that I just assumed husband, wife, and I looked it up.
And they're from.
Derry?
No, they're from.
Argentina.
Oh, Argentina, Argentina, Argentina.
Is a, what did I say?
Argentina, which is fun.
That's fun.
Um, Argentina is a hotbed of nasty, unrelenting horror films.
Remember that one we watched in my house when evil lurks?
Oh, love that shit.
God, that was fucking horrible.
You moved a rotten.
Love that.
I thought that was so depressing.
It was awesome.
When the little girl gets killed by the dog.
When the, and then the, also the, the car.
Yeah.
It's love that.
But I guess what I like about the series so far is like one of the other big things about it is the influence it has over the city as a whole.
Yeah. How the adults don't really notice or care that much the kids die, don't believe the kids.
And then as soon as one of those cycles is over, Derry just like kind of forgets about it, which is obviously like trauma.
People bury their shit, but I love it.
I can't, I don't know how many episodes there are.
We're four episodes in I'm excited, but I love Stephen King and sometimes people watch stuff mad.
Yeah.
People love drag race.
Fucking hate it.
Do you know what I mean?
I do.
I don't have, of course I know exactly what you mean because I wish you were at this viewing party I was at.
But because for what drag race, it was a while ago, bunch of gay people.
Why were you doing it?
A viewing party?
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm sorry.
It wasn't a formal viewing party.
It was just a bunch of gay people watch.
Oh, I thought you like, no, I wanted to feel famous.
And you went down to West Hollywood and sat and you're like, no, no, no, no, no.
This was like 12 gay men watching drag race.
It was the episode where Lala rewore the gift bags, marry the vitriol, not even vitriol.
Doesn't even come close.
The, the invectives we were hurling at the screen, the slurs, the slanders, it was like, it was like,
we were wanting to kill all gay and drag.
It was so crazy.
I think the first brick of that falling was Amazon prime because every faggot was watching drag race being like,
I can get a wig by month by month by Tuesday.
I could let all these hoes have it.
But the truth is owning a wig, owning a car doesn't mean you can drive.
Case in point.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I, I, I wish, I wish, I wish I'll be an earshot when I heard some faggot say like, I could do that because my head would turn.
Like the exorcist, you wouldn't even turn your body.
It would be very Pennywise, like balloons would float out.
They would start to smell popcorn.
Yeah.
I just, uh, I mean, people who love things, hate them.
People, I know I love the Sims, people who love the Sims, hate the Sims, people who love drag race, do nothing but hate on drag race.
Well, and people who love Stephen King will watch every iteration of it, but have problems with all of it.
Yeah.
I mean, I think there's a, there's a, somebody called me a hater the other day.
Honestly.
I watched this online and I took, I was like, I cried.
I'm just kidding.
Just kidding.
But I was like, I was like, oh shoot, I don't want to be a hater.
I wouldn't be, I like being a critic.
I like being critically evaluative about stuff.
I like, you know, discussing things and like thinking about them and talking about them, but I'm critiquing them, but I've been watching all spare and now this is a show that defies description critique and evaluation, right?
Because it's, why are you watching this?
Because it's, have you ever seen a train track, uh, um, uh, like a, an old timey train, um, accident with all the cars get piled up and huge plumes of smoke and people dying everywhere.
And that's kind of what this is in a way.
It's like a version of television that it's so bad, but in such a, it's, it's such a particular way.
Like it's, I don't know how to describe it really well.
First of all, Niecy Nash, who's carrying the show on her shoulders.
Her name is Emerald green.
And I think that is so great.
Right.
Naomi Watts is trying to find some kind of character.
She's wearing capes.
That's as far as she's getting.
Um, is this a Ryan Murphy thing?
Yeah, absolutely.
Okay.
Sarah Paulson is every word out of her mouth is a, is an over the top filthy insult that was written by like the nastiest 16 year old gay guy.
Like, Hey, jizz face.
I see you took time out of.
I've been watching your grandma to come to the office today, you big, fat, fucking shit
wad i mean literally like that and then um uh kim kardashian is there
with thong out at the office at the firm swinging big and starring in this vehicle she looks
exquisite like her hair and makeup or her makeup some of the hair is weird it's so beautiful
and then you hear the words and the delivery and the dialogue and you're like wow
this is giving gal gadot a run for her money in a way but it's so glossy and it's so splashy
and it's so colorful i don't know it's a very interesting cultural moment it got a zero on
rotten tomatoes and yet it's one of hulu's biggest hits that's what i mean somebody yesterday was
like are you gonna watch it i said why would i watch it it looks bad and they said because all
the gays are watching it i said that's not enough to convince me no i don't like that i have to
convince me no no gays were wearing chokers for a while
i didn't do that all the gays have cock rings in rng everyone's in a cock cage everyone's
everyone's cucked wait i never actually cook i never asked you about how your loctober went
oh you know it is good but the problem is what they don't tell you you gotta trim your pubes
because the roughage starts to grow in around the metal and then it's kind of like a trellis
on the side of a house yeah a vertical garden right yeah and then every time i had a boner
i lost a full row of pubes and those are so hard to grow back
yeah that's why i don't like it i don't like it i don't like it
get the kim kardashian merkin panty you know what i don't want to yuck anyone's yum
lock your dick up do it lock your dick balls up mama lock your asshole up
how did you love hawaii i liked it a lot
i had one day
did you get that one?
did you get that one?
did you get those pancakes i told you to get
baby i went to that we fina and i went to that motherfucking pink hotel
the breakfast and that breakfast i wanted i was like do i eat it where i shove it up my
that breakfast is the rural hawaiian that breakfast was i went two days in a row
barbara shout out to barbara that waitress she was tisha she i got the bread pudding
french toast each time because i couldn't say no yeah it was first day i got um some kind of
the pancake special i got a burrito thing and the next time i got the pink pancakes
how were they?
those were probably the best pancakes i've ever had
this was the best brioche or bread pudding french toast at a pink palace i have ever
enjoyed in my life it was so delicious and i jumped in the ocean the water was so warm
ocean water that's so warm even in like santa monica in the summer the water's not that hot
no that hawaii water was hot well it wasn't hot thailand is like hot this was warm it was amazing
it had to be pushing 90 no yes seriously yeah maybe 87 because i keep my pool at about 90 when
i'm warming it which i know people some people think is hot but i don't like that moment of
getting in and well that's i had a little when i went in i was like oh but then i quickly
acclimated mary that sand was was crab free rock free that water was turquoise oh yeah it was clean
it was so shallow all the way out i think i went a half i think i went two and a half miles
out still up to the knees yeah i had a really good time i got in that water i just was like
i gotta get in it just for a second so i did all the sand in my asshole you wouldn't believe
so much i mean you could probably like make a an adobe hut with all that sand uh i got back to my
room and i took my swimsuit off the amount of sand that hit the floor had me wondering where
it was where was it mama it was in your uterus i had to go get the two room key cards and create
a shovel and like like like a sand castle that came from my fucking
perineum mary i know i had to change rooms because i clogged the shower with the sand
yeah no i'm just kidding but i mean i could have i should have probably once i was in the shower
the amount of sand that came off me am i ruining the shower it just kept coming i was like i don't
feel this is like i don't feel there's much sand on me and the shower is like really is that what
you think yes it was like you're a human pepper shaker coming from the shower seriously it was
that much it's not like it could get hot in my hair you know well i always i put my hair up in
a thing anyways
saw a video of myself in the ocean doing that no no no no no no no no no no no no no beyond the
self-body shaming which i won't subject any of you to the patch of hair on my lower back has
gotten so dark and egregious and thick and present omnipresent present confrontational
if you didn't if i was walking away from you you could grab it and pull me back
i swear to it's like a cheerleader's pom-pom on my on my all five mary you just
go up to 8 000 sunset go to miss european wax and ask for mary she'll get you good right away
i'm like i barely have eyebrows but i have a woolen basket on the lower back but i have a full
fall a scrub daddy i have a three-quarter wig on my lumbar spine and also how many people have
been back there and said nothing shout out to all those nice people well you know what listen
people love people love hair people love not hair you know what it gives have you ever seen like
that haircut where it's all bald except a pony like one island of a pony
here that's what i'm giving it also gives malignant you know what i mean oh maybe it's
like what was that guy's name jeffrey i know her fake brother oh yeah juniper i forget i don't
remember damien no malachi something it's something like that what do you think all
those religious names oh i love religious names i would if i would name my my if i had a dog i
would name it christian john mark and luke no christian john mark luke christian yeah i mean
i have no i don't have a religious name
irish i i mean i like regular names i'm not i'm not really into the mckayleys and the mcnabys and
the mcbaileys and all that stuff that's a very like midwest southern gymnastics type of thing
oh dance team yes yeah yeah yeah i like i like come here racket they all got crazy names yeah
yeah mick racket satchel yeah whatever satchel it's always like a something like a rise rise
mcmadison satchel or whatever rise
phoenix mcsatchel so i went to the ocean i wanted to touch the ocean with my little foot right and
i have my my men's clothing on and i just want to touch the ocean and i have my shoes on and i
brought my sneaker and i was like i'm just going to touch this ocean and then before the wave comes
back i'm going to skittle right i'm going to skittle out of here don't don't i want to touch
it don't don't right so i go to touch it with my like i go to touch it and the water comes quick
and the water overcomes my sneaker how much clouds are 80 wet great like like up to almost
the ankle like okay great
and i'm like dealing with it right i'm kind of like going no no like screaming up at the universe
you know if anybody like jennifer love hewitt in them at the end of the movie oh no my butt and
also thinking yeah duh waves yeah do you think it was going to stop magically wait for you to touch
it yeah no no and then this old lady to my right goes haha fucking i thought haha was so crazy
haha is a little i don't know you haha is a little um haha antagonistic antagonistic and also a little
um familiar she might have said i know you are but what am i it was like she was trying to one-up me
and i go haha i would have been more comfortable with a faggot seriously what did you think was
gonna happen and then this family this family's watching family with children is watching probably
to see how i'm going to respond right so now i feel all kind of like yeah i gotta say something
you take your earrings and i go haha and i turned her i go haha haha that swimsuit haha that hair
looks like straw bitch haha that frass front ass and the dad of the family was watching me say that
and then was like oh
and looked at her and she didn't respond so then it was kind of over oh i think i kind of won you
did you did win but i wish it would have evolved into a world star hip-hop kind of moment you could
have gone viral what would you have done if you opened twitter and it was like um struggling drag
race star jacked it gets in a full fist fight with a woman with a beach yeah 73 year old woman one
piece bathing suit from des moines i would have jacked it all night long right that would be so
great what would you do i would eject it right jerked it and then i would have printed it out
and then gone to the library and looked at it and i would have been like oh my god i'm gonna have to
look at it as microfiche i wish we were famous enough to have um paparazzi after us because i
would love for us to have an umbrella or something but i don't think they do that anymore they don't
i think only i think i don't think that level of well i mean i know it like the hairstyles and
stuff like k-pop people you know like the the girls the the the i'm still at a level of fame
but if i see paparazzi my night i feel i feel elated what why i'm like you're like wasted
pictures on me like i'm like oh my god i'm always like oh they thought i was guy branham or something
they thought i was they thought i was madeline yeah i don't know yeah yeah i don't i was i heard
a comedian say the level of the most common level of fame nowadays is that they either don't know
you they either don't know who you are or they know what you've had for lunch does that make
sense like it's like oh yeah the one i was i was at an award show and i was leaving and they were
just taking pictures of anyone who was leaving because i think no no photographer is gonna know
who everyone is no
and that's how many caterers are accidentally like taco truck what do you mean talk at the
hospital he's like can i look at your instagram once you saw the the i had more like a lot of
followers he was like and then just pictures photo shoot photo shoot he's like i'm gonna post
these i was like okay no i wasn't in drag at all but i had taken a photo down the street like a
block with two girls and i guess he maybe saw it and figure i don't know whether and he made a huge
deal of it once he saw the and that's happened before
once i got robbed by those pakistani gangs in london um they once they saw my instagram we
became fast friends and this is not a i'm not pulling the yarn this is like i almost
got like rolled by this gang of young kids but we i didn't i've told you about this like three times
i swear to god and they stole money from me but they didn't they took two dollars instead of the
hundred dollar bill that was in my bag right yeah so but once they saw the instagram followers
they were like oh my god this is kate blanchett this is tom cruise they're benevolent thieves
they're no we're we're a team now right like they want to be my entourage it was so wild it was
crazy that's really weird but it's but it makes sense though for kids because what is a more
probably what is the more like realistic opportunity in the future um paying for college
or going viral on tiktok going viral on tiktok yeah i read okay the other day i googled what
about fucking britney broski what about her she has like a billion followers online and makes
tons of money and is super famous yeah but she's famous for something she's famous for being funny
yes but
but she was discovered through a meme but i'm saying i would argue that what she's put on the
internet is funny yeah and she's funny and she's using the internet to showcase yes funny yes yes
yes versus the genre of content that is just just someone living that's hugely popular which is
usually like some hot girl right right just living just living or eating i mean i was doing my low
asmr research baby and it's all about eating crabs there's an audience for a lot of things
what i think is really interesting is that there's a lot of people who are like oh my god
nick and i were just we were we got asked to go to youtube this nick and we got to participate in
something called mb creators mba in a day where you got to do all these like in-depth courses
about being a youtube creator we were invited no one knew why we were there um you're like you
don't eat crabs no it was the thing is it was people who are like i would say i don't want to
say who but like individuals like britney that size like team where it's probably the person and
their social media
yeah editor whatever and then there was giant companies that have a hundred plus employees
that are technically youtube channels these like content houses oh like the ones that i used to
live like by on the hills with all those drones and like no not tiktok houses like oh i'm gonna
say like jubilee okay or like barstool sports oh yeah or like mythical kitchen these giant
youtube channels that do like last meals or whatever first we feast yes so they were there
giving interesting presentations about like
oh my god it's a youtube channel that has eight ceos and like like wow jesus like for us to be a
tiny youtube channel and bald and beautiful here i was like so crazy to hear people they they run a
youtube channel like they run a cable network right hundred employees it's like the morning
show with jennifer aniston one of the people were like oh we have a team of 2500 um team of 2500
freelancers we have a team of 2500 pieces of paper in the in the office yeah maybe not even 500
2500 we listen to these presentations all day including one about honestly it was 90 minutes
and i could not tell you what was said was it corporate it was so over my head it wasn't
corporate airing because it wasn't word salad it was intentional smart shit that was was it like
the more i unless i knew the more my acting got worse so like they were like blah blah blah
yeah like pretending to type and nodding even though
i was googling exact words you would say i pick one word and google it and you had no computer
no i had my ipad okay and i was trying to open i had a pizza box i had a pizza box and i was
trying to keep up and 10 minutes in i was like this isn't for me this is for big brain was it
just like advanced marketing and business it was biomechanics no i don't know it was something
nick do you remember what it is aip yeah uh api api like coding and stuff like that oh yeah coding
of course girl yeah html love her i was like html love her i was like html love her love her love her
i was like and there was an exercise where they had to have your whole youtube channel and you
had to draw a web of the way your company's laid out and so they showed us a flow chart of like a
company with 100 employees or whatever so nick and i have one piece of paper and we write his
name and my name we're like this is it we got boobs we got they're called boobs ed and then
guess who has to give a presentation at the end of the day who me what what we get up there we
get up there and it's all these big time big time people who run major major major youtube channel
so we're like oh i came from i came from cable and i actually started this cable network and then
ended up over here at this giant my name is warren buffett you might have heard of me wow so then i'm
up there and i'm like how y'all doing great so one time i did a video about the amish like i just was
like we're gonna bake some easy big oven stuff yeah we talked about some depth creating depth
of fandom which is like i don't know what we always call like the tricksy cinematic universe
of like there's music and and djing and stuff in my house and like if people are fans they might
only be fans from seeing like you and i and tiktok right or they might be like hardcore fans who like
can visualize my mom in videos they love the easy big yeah and so we tried to talk about that
and i think we were successful but just after hearing these people literally give presentations
on how to hire ceos i was just like okay like well over here color let's get some splash
enough of that gray jargon yeah did you take your top off no they did ask me an interesting
question that i didn't have a good answer for in the moment somebody asked me
if people like to watch you because of they relate to you and i said i think so right i mean
i think people always tell you and i i'm the tricksy i'm the kachi i'm the whatever sorry they
go be they've made you more successful and so how do you manage being relatable to them but then like
appearing that's an excellent question like wealthier yeah how do you how do you maintain
relatability while your lifestyle dramatically changes that's a great question but i think that
minimizing or concealing
that change in your life isn't honest and isn't a good place to start it can be dishonest right
yeah it's a it's a really it's a hard thing to negotiate because it's on the one hand you want
to share part of your relatability is sharing the details of your life and yours yes oh yeah i'm just
saying one's life and then but of course the the problem is that many of the those details have
become wildly unrelatable right so if we're talking about i only have 18 rooms in my chalet
i would i would say you shouldn't have bought it yeah because you know you need 20
all right we're gonna wrap oh okay well it was interesting anyway and i just i tried to grasp
whatever wisdom but so much of it was over my head was like html.biz it was like there was a
pitching machine and i was swinging every time but only connecting every once in a while that's okay
it's like that sounds kind of scary and boring it wasn't scary or boring it was like it was the
closest thing to college i'd felt since college
i would rather just do the gallagher thing and break watermelons yeah yeah it was interesting
though really interesting do you know about streamers getting swatted swatted people who
like love big streamers aka hate them as we talked about will call the fbi or whatever and say that
there's like uh gonna be a horrible bombing crime at that address and while someone's on
stream the fbi swat team break into their fucking house isn't that crazy
let's take a break let's take the ultimate break because that's it and that i'm gonna go
kick some walls or something but we're talking to streamers and hearing streamers talk about like
that next level of well that's the thing they know that they know where you live they know
what you have for lunch because they're watching you have it in your home yes that's why i always
shoot in a cave what do you think about the guy who ran up to ariana grande i i don't marry go
come come to brazil baby cynthia should have gone on that broom and flown them both out of there
baby when i was walking to the six years ago when i was wiggling my sweaty ass
to a nightclub at 3 a.m to a stage that had shit on it i had a ring of 12 brazilian bodyguards for
me right because people would have ripped the flesh out my body brazil is next level it's
incredible okay goodbye bye
you
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The speaker reflects on death and burial customs, questioning the cultural and environmental excess of traditional funerals, suggesting simpler, more sustainable alternatives like cremation or donating bodies to science.
They propose a radical reimagining of burial practices—such as burying naked bodies—highlighting inefficiency and waste in how we honor the dead, especially in the context of commercialized cemeteries.
The conversation critiques the cemetery industrial complex, pointing out the absurdity and emptiness of mausoleums and overly ornate graves, while questioning whether visits to graves actually ease grief.
The speaker draws connections between pop culture, horror, and societal taboos—especially through discussions of *Welcome to Derry* and *Speak No Evil*—to explore how deeply disturbing content can provoke emotional and psychological reactions.
A recurring theme is the tension between relatability and authenticity in media and public life, particularly in how influencers and celebrities maintain connection with audiences despite vast lifestyle changes.
The host critiques online fame and content creation, noting the disconnect between viral success and genuine human connection, especially in the rise of meme-driven fame like Britney Spears’.
The discussion touches on absurd humor and satire, such as the idea of a dog being a "two-legged dog rescued from Guantanamo," blending absurdity with critique of societal norms and consumerism.
Underlying all the content is a recurring theme of questioning cultural norms—of death, fame, gender, and consumption—through humor, satire, and personal experience.
Summary:
The speaker reflects on death, burial traditions, and the cultural absurdity of the cemetery industry, proposing that funerals should be simpler, more sustainable, and less wasteful—like burying a naked body to minimize environmental impact. They critique the commercialization of death, pointing out the emptiness of mausoleums and the emotional toll of visiting graves. The conversation expands into pop culture, analyzing horror films like *Welcome to Derry* and *Speak No Evil* as examples of deeply disturbing yet compelling storytelling that challenge societal norms.
The host also examines modern fame and content creation, highlighting the contradiction between relatability and the hyper-commercialized lifestyles of influencers. Through humor and satire—such as imagining a dog rescued from a prison or a viral fame trajectory—they question how society values authenticity, consumption, and identity. Ultimately, the piece serves as a satirical yet thoughtful critique of cultural norms, from death rituals to internet fame, using personal anecdotes and absurdity to explore deeper truths about human behavior and connection.
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The speaker suggests that burying people in clothes is a cultural tradition that feels overly elaborate and wasteful, especially when compared to simpler, more sustainable options like cremation or donating the body to science.
The speaker recommends cremation as a more sustainable option, and jokingly suggests burying people naked to minimize waste and carbon footprint, calling it a more practical and environmentally friendly approach.
The speaker finds mausoleums to be excessive, sterile, and unemotional, describing them as large, empty hallways with little personal meaning, often filled with overpriced memorials and outdated designs like the Taj Mahal.
The speaker believes visiting a grave can make grief worse, as it forces confrontation with loss in a physical space, rather than allowing memories to live in one’s mind in a more comforting way.
The speaker finds the series disturbing and emotionally intense, especially due to its portrayal of child deaths and the presence of a relentless, terrifying entity that mirrors the fear of childhood trauma.
The speaker finds the character's evolution from a vague, shape-shifting entity to a child-like, almost cartoonish figure to be confusing and less frightening than expected, especially in contrast to the original Stephen King story.
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