"The Craft of Being Present" podcast explores the fundamental role of presence in human interactions and endeavors. The host emphasizes the necessity of being present in creating communities, negotiating effectively, and fostering intimacy. The erosion of presence in society due to technological advancements is highlighted as a critical issue. The Three Circles of Energy concept is introduced as a method to enhance presence by aligning physical and breath presence. The importance of nature in fostering presence is discussed, emphasizing the connection between human presence and the natural world. Different levels of presence are explored, including first circle (withdrawal), second circle (balanced engagement), and third circle (energy projection), each influencing how individuals interact and engage with the world.
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I'm starting a new podcast called "The Craft of Being Present" which actually has a paradox
in it because you can't do a craft unless you're present.
In fact, presence is so much part of us as human beings, it is us actually.
And our presence is housed in our body, fuelled by our breath.
Let's just think about what we can't do if we're not present.
We can't make a community, a team, a group, an ensemble, a community cannot exist until
everyone turns up at some point in their presence and with their presence.
We can't negotiate with each other until we are present with each other.
And something that is incredibly important to remember is that presence is a two-way
street.
We cannot have consent until we are both present, or a group is present.
We cannot negotiate, we cannot have intimacy, it is a place of being engaged and connected.
And when we show up with our presence, we show up with care, focus, attention and a
sense of connection to the world.
It is the start of everything, and very early in my teaching career I realised that until
I taught people to be present, I couldn't teach anything.
We transform when we're present.
We survive when we're present.
And of course today I have to talk about the incredible erosion of our presence.
It's getting to a point of such a critical moment that until we dare to show up, we haven't
got any chance really to survive on the planet, that is what I believe.
What has been created in order to awaken our presence?
Every great play, every great piece of music, every great painting, I remember as a child
seeing my first Rembrandt.
And all I felt was this enormous rush of energy in me as the painting engaged me and I became
present with it.
And I suppose this journey I'm going to describe to you is a very personal journey, because
later on I'm going to do a series on being present and that will include being present
with nature, being present in community, being present in leadership and in the end being
present with Shakespeare.
My personal journey is because I was brought up in a family when my father wasn't present
and that's a big issue.
In fact, every conversation you had with him which mattered to you, and of course presence
is a place of something mattering in you, was done with his financial times over his face.
So this journey has been a long one for me and a very personal one.
Let's go back to this idea of a two-way street.
When a baby is born it reaches out and hopefully it is met by a parent who's also reaching
out to it.
It is a returning of energy, it is a sharing of energy and as that baby grows it is introduced
to more presence and group presence and of course this is so obvious that we can't argue
with it.
But over the last fifty years of teaching I'm very aware of watching presence disappear
from people.
I'm sure it was disappearing long before I was born but this erosion is so rapid now
that it becomes a very poignant critical thing and actually part of my career has been because
people have come to find their presence.
And in this podcast I'll be looking at your body and your breath systems and introduce
you to something that I've been working on for about fifty years called the Three Circles
of Energy which is about a focus on how you become present.
You know teaching is very humbling because I suddenly realised years ago that I don't
teach anything that you don't know.
We know presence so well that I haven't invented it.
What I have tried to do is to formulate exercises that will help you engage with your presence
in the world, to show up, to show up with nature.
Nature brings us into our presence.
An actor was reminding me the other day that in 1992, I don't remember saying this, but
he said that I said in a keynote that the erosion of our presence is continually linked
to the erosion of nature.
Not only does nature bring us to our presence but as we lose nature it is harder for us
to be present.
We cannot save nature by destroying nature but we also have to save our human presence
and nature is one of the great givers of presence, the generosity of nature and now we have to
be a bit more generous to nature.
My other thought before we start talking about the work is that maybe it is a political act
to be present.
I've met all sorts of people in my life and as I said people have come to me to learn presence
and that includes elite athletes, the military, judges, barristers, doctors but I've also
met people, particularly powerful leaders who have quite openly admitted.
It is better to have a group of workers who are not present because they are easier to
control.
That sounds shocking but I do remember in the 80s doing a job for a company and the
CEO said to me afterwards I don't want them to be transformed or educated just entertain
them and that was a shock but also in the early 90s I worked with a top CEO on Wall
Street I think he was in charge of 140,000 people and the first thing he said to me because
we were travelling in a lift at lunch time on Wall Street and if you've ever been on
Wall Street at lunch time everyone is queuing for lifts and he had his own lift and I said
why have you got your own lift?
He said I don't want to be present with anyone and I thought there we are, that's the problem
but eventually I had to watch him do a keynote, a town hall to about 140,000 people and HR
said to me he's dreadful, he's absolutely dreadful and he was and I was working with
him and I risked my job by saying to him you know you might as well give them all an hour
off because it's so boring and he laughed at me and he said exactly if I bore them they
don't challenge me so this idea of present is huge but it may be very important now to
realise that it serves certain people, maybe it is a political act to remain present.
Let's go back to the beginning of my teaching 50 years ago and I had an epiphany and actually
maybe you can't have epiphany until you're present but I started to see that everything
in a human body is connected, now that sounds so obvious but nobody had taught me that,
I was taught just voice but I made the connection that voice starts in the body, tension in
the body stops the breath, if you can't breathe you've got no power and that connection was
very critical because I think it came after sitting in a staff room with staff who were
mocking the students, I can't bear staff rooms where the teachers mock their students, it's
just disgusting really but they were mocking and I was the junior member of staff and the
conversations were going like this, oh he's got it, oh she hasn't, rows of laughter and
I thought what are they talking about the it, what is the it-ness of it and it occurred
to me, they were talking about human presence and at that moment I knew that what I had
to teach was presence not in a mystical way but in a very practical embodied way and 50
years ago what I saw in a classroom was the beginning of a physical deterioration of presence
and that connects to the breath but let's be very clear what I saw 50 years ago wasn't
as bad as what I see now, what I started to see was that if somebody had a spine that
was slumped then they withdrew from the world with their presence and then the knock on
effect went into their breath and their voice so their voice disappeared, if they had shoulder
tension that created a push in the voice and a generalised presence and because I'm slow
of study I just worked on these things very simply, very patiently trying to find out
how to help them and I started to realise that presence of course is connected to something
that matters, you've got to care about something and you have to give your full attention,
so there was the beginning of being cool which is about not being present and as I started
to work with people I realised that if we didn't get certain things right nothing was
going to happen, so the first thing I realised was the connection to the floor was critical,
nobody ever in my training spoke about feet, it just so happened at that time I'd been
working in opera and I witnessed Pavarotti not wanting to sing on a set because there
was a carpet and he couldn't feel his voice, equally I met an amazing woman called Alec
Nandra Samarth who turned out to be one of my greatest dearest friends and she had trained
at Rada but had been a Hindu classical actor before and at the RSC very early in the days
that I was connected to the RSC she was the first actor I saw really take off her shoes
to work, to feel the floor, so now let's start talking about connections in your body, you
see if I'm not standing on the floor I start not being on my legs, now this sounds mad
but it's a dancer's term to be on your legs but the joke is that until I feel the floor
correctly I lock my knees, I didn't see anybody when I started teaching 50 years ago locking
their knees that's a new thing, that's relatively new and as I started to trace these things
through the body I started to realise that if I wasn't standing on my feet and locking
my knees I couldn't get my breath down, if I couldn't get my breath down my spine started
to slump, if I couldn't get my breath down I might pull my energy up into my chest and
a jigsaw puzzle started to appear and I started to devise exercises to try and reconnect the
human being to their full physical power and their full physical breath power and gradually
I realised that these things were very simple to do if I could isolate where the tension
started and that's fundamentally what I do in life, I try and find out where the tension
stops our presence, our breath and eventually our voice, the erosion of this has been rapidly
accelerating, of course we saw the profound effect after covid that young people could
no longer even look at each other but it was happening long before, let's just be absolutely
clear this has been happening and maybe back to my CEO on Wall Street it's easier to control
us when we're not present, I remember a very famous director who's now passed but he used
to talk to his actors so much that they started to fall asleep and eventually he looked at
me and said it's great when I talk like that and they get bored because then they don't
answer me back so these are things that we have to understand about our presence and
about our body and about ourselves and that to show up with our presence requires attention
and care and something has to matter but it's also incredibly difficult because then you
are revealed and let me just say at this moment there's no blame to anyone, you know when
I started to see in the early 80s young people's bodies collapsing, you know we blamed the idea
that all the playing fields had been taken away from children so they didn't have anywhere
to run that they weren't able to walk on rough ground, some of my students I think I'm insane
but it's always occurred to me that when we walk in nature we become present partly because
we're designed to walk on rough ground that urban pounding of hard flat surfaces is actually
entering our body and taking away our breath and our presence and eventually our voice
and this again my teaching career I was teaching the Bedouin and they talked about walking
in the desert and walking on sand and hard rock and very jagged rocks but the first time
they walked into a urban setting i.e. pavings within 20 minutes of pounding they could feel
their knees, their pelvic area, their shoulders, their spine beginning to get so disturbed
and painful that they were yelping in pain so this idea of walking with our freedom on
rough ground and just as a political little point here you know we're hearing everyone
talk about how important nature is but we have to preserve nature we can't just take
nature away from people and think that they're going to stay present maybe that's not important
to say at this moment because we'll do a whole podcast on it so after a while of looking
at bodies and seeing where tension was gathering really and the gathering of that tension stops
the pure thing that we all have to do which is to fully breathe in and gather and then
give out our energy which is all presence is I started to try and formulate something
that people young people could understand and over that period of time and it took me
I think a probably about 10 years to formulate what I now call the three circles of energy
and the three circles of energy is a way of understanding how you lock off your presence
in circle is our full aligned physical and breath presence the place that we start in
and the place we have to reset in if I can teach you how to reset when somebody is taking
your presence away you have a chance you have a chance to survive you know in my teaching
career I've worked as I said with the military the special forces said to me once if we have
one person in our group that is in present we're all at risk and for whatever reason
over the years I've gathered a lot of great martial artists that come and work with me
because of this simple idea that you have to be fully present in your body centred aligned
and aware in order to survive we cannot survive without drawing on our presence and how many
of us have felt under threat suddenly feeling our presence realizing there is a danger outside
us and that we have to connect to it but equally in that presence we have intimacy we have
connection with somebody we have presence instead of absence a woman said to me recently
do you know you can be alone in a room with somebody for 20 years and if I talk about
myself personally the battle because of my father has always been to show up how to show
up I often ponder that we often teach a thing we can't do very well and that is being present
so this idea of three circles of energy and the second is when we're fully aligned in
our full economic efficient power and in that power we allow our body to be at its highest
level of engagement and in that way engage with the world and as the body becomes present
we can find the presence of our breath the placement of our breath which is what we're
going to be working on later second circle and for most people that I teach today that
is a distant memory oh they say to me oh yes I've come back to myself and sometimes it's
as simple as looking at a photograph of yourself as a child and seeing that you were present
and then looking at the photograph when you stop being present in your body and that connection
as I said this is a jigsaw puzzle second circle a balanced body a full breath and a full giving
out of your breath to the world and when the word circle is used there is a circle of energy
around you you don't have to look to be present you sometimes feel presence I don't know most
people have had the experience of knowing somebody's looking at them and turning around
because if we're alert we can feel those things if we're tight and held we can't feel those things
so second circle is going to be the study the practice the physicality that you're going to
learn how to do and by the way because it's of us everybody can do this work it depends on
how much you want to work on it and how dangerous it is because without any doubt our presence
and our withdrawal from presence is often to do with trauma fear or being ignored
retreating but second circle would be the study of the rest of the podcasts around
presence and nature presence and leadership presence and community and presence in Shakespeare
but let's really think about the two other circles the things that I started to look at
50 years ago with groups of students who wanted to show up but couldn't and then the ones that
showed up the other staff were so pleased because they had it and me having to say to young people
of course you're present of course you've got it of course you can show up and be connected
to the world and by the way if actors aren't present on stage there is no awakening of the
artist you can have craft and not care to do it you can know how to make a table but not
care to do it so the presence has to exist and be married to our craft let's talk and maybe even
begin to experience what first circle is like when I talk about first circle I often just
pull my hands in people will often talk to me and they'll put their hand on their sternum
and pull themselves in in a way first circle is energy falling into us by the way all these things
can be choice all education is is choice you can do what you want but you must have the choice
sometimes in life we have to go into first circle but it's not our natural presence it's a habit
first circle pulling energy in so the first thing I started to notice with people in first
circle was their spines being slumped I was lucky enough I've been very lucky in my life I've just
worked with amazing people who've been so generous to me and of course part of being present is
generosity you know to give out is a generous act to be clear to an audience is a generous act
but I worked in the 70s with an amazing osteopath called Dr Gerald James who had been a surgeon
that had gone into osteopathy and he used to say as soon as your spine goes you age
now I thought that was quite funny he was also moaning about platform shoes saying those shoes
will destroy everything about your body but that's another story but I started to see that from behind
a young person their body looked like an eight year old they were so reduced through the spine
and of course if my spine collapses I can't breathe fully the breath doesn't go deeply
into the body the head is then pulled forward so you're looking down into the floor often
then the feet come together rather than balanced under the hips and then slowly realising that
people in first circle were back on their heels pulling away from the world and of course that's
been a survival technique to pull away from the world first circle body leading into first
circle breath leading into first circle voice which is the voice pulling back you know the
problem with actors using microphones in theatres often is that they don't bother to even get their
voice out so again it's just loud mumbling that everything is falling in looking down and then
it occurred to me that if I go to the theatre long before you speak we know whether we are going to
listen to you and we get messages from your body if the curtain lifts up and there's an act of
standing there in first circle a very big exaggerated form of first circle would be of feet together
your shoulders rounded looking down maybe hands in front of you that signals before you speak
servant so first circle is a critical understanding of you reducing yourself
and pulling away from the world I'm going to make huge generalisations so please forgive them
but it occurred to me that first circle is the worst of female habits of pulling away
no blame is attached to any of this but in first circle we might listen
if you remember that two-way street and speaking in negotiation in consent in discussion is an
open second circle present connection so first circle people maybe listen but we don't know what
they think we don't know what they are going to say so again it might be because of survival
but we don't know what you are thinking and therefore eventually in certain circumstances you
will be ignored so you're maybe taking energy but not giving it and at its worst is that you are
forgotten first circle if first circle is reduction and second circle is balanced between
our giving and receiving third circle is an imbalance in pushing out your energy pushing
out your energy so third circle people will often speak but never listen first circle people might
think about themselves but never give it out third circle will give it out without thinking about
someone else and by the way empathy is found in second circle exchange we're not going to change
anyone that we disagree with until both of us decide to turn up in second circle and listen
and be prepared to change your mind but that's for a whole other podcast that's going to be
explored in detail so let's go back to third circle I would suggest that third circle is
what most world leaders are at the moment I do know that most bullies I've met in the workplace
our third circle people who push away the world and just pronounce there's no give or take it's
just speaking without listening and you can see that in the body let's think about the body
that pushes out the chest is bluff I used to call third circle before I got the numbers
I used to have it in my mind that third circle was bluff that it was a bluff position
I used to think in first circle that it was called denial but of course that's too limiting
so third circle is a bluff it is a disconnect with the world that are pushing out on it
you see it in the chest you see it often with very braced legs you see it with very tight jaws
people force forcing things not the balance of power which is second circle but force
and it goes with very gasping breath often very conscious taking in of breath
and again without blaming people we've taken on third circle in order to cope
with something I'm not going to blame people but the role of leaders at the moment
is third circle and at worst it's a bullying narcissistic position that is about I'm more
important than anyone else in the space so third circle that pushed out tension
first circle a withdrawing and in the middle is the sweet spot in a way of second circle
coming into yourself and again if you walk in nature or you're accepted in a community
you often feel the tensions drop away and you find yourself present again
as I said it's the function of art it's the function of community to bring people into their
presence so let's just touch base with the tensions in our body as the baby is born
their body is centered their breath is free that's how we come on to the planet
and the tensions in the body desensitize us I often have to work with somebody who
a lot of people have huge problems with maybe in a company they'll say we can't bear working
concerns how and generally their third circle and generally and I believe this to be the truth
the vast majority of people are decent but sometimes our tensions stop us understanding
that our energy is disturbing doesn't make somebody a bad person
so I had a company come to me and they had a very successful these people are often very
successful third circle and he was perceived as a bully and everything I was I was talking about
in third circle it was in his body he was pushing and what people and particularly the women found
very difficult is that he came too close he came too close to them and they felt that he was
intimidating them he was coming into their energy their circle of energy their circle of energy
was being attacked by his presence and I said to the women or women that had problems with this
why don't you just step back and of course that horrified them and I said well maybe
we have to practice you stepping back because he might then feel that he's too close
and we practice me coming in too close and them stepping back and that's what they did
and then he got it and he came to me and he said do they have a problem and I said yes your energy
and he was profoundly upset because he nobody had he'd been rewarded third circle people often
reward it for this energy that is pushing out and desensitizes them equally we are desensitized
if we in first circle we become obsessed with ourselves which is absolutely fine but if we
stop seeing out of ourselves first circle third circle often we lose our curiosity because we
become stuck in a tension curiosity imagination is about looking out at the world in second circle
presence and second circle is the beginning of everything that we can do that is creative
and caring and curious it builds groups the artist's job is to be present enough to awaken us
it connects us to nature it connects us to anything outside nature the divine it is us being aware
and connected a society without presence and absence is less caring more violent
unable to listen to change or to fully empathize with anybody it is critical that we put presence
back into education into leadership into community into the arts and into a respect for nature
and the rest of the podcasts will be exploring this but the next podcast
is going to be a very simple series of exercises to help you feel presence in your body and your
breath and to take that presence out into the world thank you for listening and I look forward
to working with you in the next podcast
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Presence is essential for any craft or endeavor.
The importance of being present in creating communities, negotiating, and fostering intimacy.
The impact of technology and societal changes on eroding presence.
The concept of the Three Circles of Energy as a method to enhance presence.
The significance of nature in fostering presence and the connection between human presence and nature.
The different levels of presence
Summary:
"The Craft of Being Present" podcast explores the fundamental role of presence in human interactions and endeavors. The host emphasizes the necessity of being present in creating communities, negotiating effectively, and fostering intimacy. The erosion of presence in society due to technological advancements is highlighted as a critical issue.
The Three Circles of Energy concept is introduced as a method to enhance presence by aligning physical and breath presence. The importance of nature in fostering presence is discussed, emphasizing the connection between human presence and the natural world. Different levels of presence are explored, including first circle (withdrawal), second circle (balanced engagement), and third circle (energy projection), each influencing how individuals interact and engage with the world.
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Communities cannot exist without individuals being present and engaged.
Consent requires the presence of all parties involved.
Nature helps individuals connect with their presence and engage fully with the world.
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Being present is essential for survival, as it allows individuals to fully engage with their surroundings and respond effectively to threats.
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