The Colman Domingo Episode

[MUSIC PLAYING] Coleman. [MUSIC PLAYING] -To make up. [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] -That's good. [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] Coleman, Coleman, Coleman. What do you think is going to be wearing? -Sorry. -Singlet. -Singlet? -Yeah. -He has a fascinista, isn't he? He's like good with fashion. -Jack, how's that dominoes? -I'm starved. -I see you have the single domino. -Yeah. I like to rip it up into little slices. -Oh. -I'm going to have one. -Oh. -I'm soaked in this slice sauce, but unbelievable. I just love the format, because I wouldn't want pineapple, even though all respect to the pineapplers out there. But I love plain cheese, and I love that I can have my own personal pizza without dealing with other people. -I love that you can have your own personal pizza without messing up what I want to put on my pizza, which is pineapple. -Yeah. Do you think his name is Cole Mann? -I don't know. But I know this thing is called domino, not dominoes. You know why? -Shape like a domino. -No, because I'm a single domino. And I can get whatever I want on my pizza. -Why are you personifying yourself as the domino? -I'm just a single man eating a domino, and you can be a single man eating a domino. -Well, you could be a man. -Singular domino. -Yeah, you like Roni. We don't like Roni. -Yeah, I understand. -Sometimes I like Roni. -You do? -But sometimes I-- every time I like pineapple, and we never get to get it, because Dave is-- you know, he has issues with fruit. -Chug, you know what I love? -What? -I have to cook-- -Get to the point. -Thanksgiving for people. I think-- I got 60 people to cook for. -I'm really-- -Are we one of them? -No, you guys aren't ever here. -I just wanted to see if you wanted us there. -Keep going. -You don't like to commit. -Keep going. -Plants, we have commits. -I'm thinking about committing plans. -Maybe. -We committed, yeah. -Giving each person a personal pie. -That's sweet. -As their meal. -Oh, for Thanksgiving, you're saying-- -He hands it out 30 diamonds. -Yes. -Gravy, gravy, too. -The slice sauce is gravy? -Yeah. -I like that, because it feels more individualized. -It feels good, right? -What you want on Thanksgiving, even though Thanksgiving is about getting thanks to everything. -When you're there with those other 59 people, and we're not there, do you feel like you're missing something? -Always, because we're not there. -Yeah, I wish. -I was always with you, guys. -That's sweet. -Do you wish that you could always have whatever you wanted on your pizza, because you can with the dominoes? -I do, Marcee. -I wish I could always have whatever I wanted all the time in life. Does everyone wish that? Does Coleman wish that? -I wonder, we should ask him. -Hello, Lou. -How do you ask him for yourself? -Hi, speaking of men. -Speaking of the men. -That's amazing. -Hold on, hold on. -You can become a different human being. -I'm like, you set the fuck up scores there. -You style this when you were like a loser. -Why are you trying to kill me today? -Like an evil prince in a Disney movie. -Then I went. I went like, "Annie's." -No, no. -All right, now we can go. -You saw the list. -Yeah, that's kind of great. -What? [ Laughter ] -Oh, here you go. -Hi, Kristen. -So good to see you, Chris. -This is my wife, Tom. -You look good, Tom. -I go for the embrace. -Yeah, it's worth it. -Hey, you're funny. -That's also a very Philly thing. We like to embrace people. -Yeah, you're Philly? -Born and raised. -Guess who else is Philly. -Well, we'll smell it. -Me. -Really? -Yeah. -Where? -Cheltenham. -Wait, is that the Northeast? -It is a suburb. -Suburb? -Suburb, suburb. -Suburb, suburb. -That's not even a Philly thing. Where did that come from? -It's a suburb. -It's a suburb. -It's a suburb. -It is a suburb of Philadelphia. -Yeah. -I know what the Cheltenham Mall is. -Well, that's my mall. -Exactly. -Actually, I'm more often going to the Willow Grove Mall. -Willow Grove Mall was the best mall. -Yeah. -Where in Philly did you grow up? -West Philly, born and raised. -I went to high school with Willow. -You did? -I did. -No, you did it. -Yes, I did. -Same time. -Same time. He went to high school with Willow. -Okay. -We had Jim class and science class. -Are you guys still friends? -We were never friends. I was like, he was the cool kid, and I was like the nerd. -I was trying to get beat up the whole time. -Was he considered cool? -Yes, he was. Because he was a rapper. -No, but what's he famous yet? -Yes, he was famous, especially in West Philly. -Yes, he was. -Let's picture it. -This is by 1942. -42. -No, it was 1980. -When the fuck was I in the high school? 1983 through '87. -You look young, and you are young. -You're like, you're like, you're like, you're really old. -How old? -I'm 56. -Okay. -First of all, before, fuck Will Smith, not fuck Will Smith, but like, fuck talking about that right now. -How do you tell us how to look like you? -I truly thought you were 38. -I thought you were our age. I thought you were 38. -Let's get everything. -I swear to God. -Everything's in my 30s. -How do we look like you? -What do you do? -Are you eating like salmon sperm and rubbing it on your feet? -What's happening? -I don't do much, but try to live well and be happy. That sounds crazy. Maybe I'll hide you right. I drink a lot of water. -Okay. -I'll have a haul. -Yeah, I do drink coffee. -Yeah. -You do drugs? -Don't do drugs. -I think maybe that's it. I don't do drugs. I did some of my 20s. -Do you eat healthy? -I do. -Listen, let me see. You put a piece of pie here or something. I will eat it. -Do you work out a lot? -I work out maybe four or five days a week. But I do, like, low-impact. -Lost steaks. -Lost steaks. I'm just like, people are always just like, "Trainers come over to eat when they're training." I'm like, "No, I don't want all that." -Yeah. -I'm just trying to stay healthy and be fit and not fall apart. -Yeah. -Especially when you get to 56 now. And I try to just make sure everything works. -It does work out. -Yeah. -It looks like good mobility to me. -You start to feel what? You start to feel some aches. -You feel everything. -He's falling apart at 38. -38? Do you think I look like a falling apart? -Yeah. -I'm totally kidding. -I think you look young. -First off, I never wear glasses. -The glasses age you after that. -When did you start wearing glasses? You used one for me? -I literally just wore them for you. -I swear to God. -Take them off. -Take them off. -You wore them to look cool? -I wore them because I know he's like a fashion. -Oh man. -Behold on. -I put them on. -Did you literally wear them as a fashion statement for him? -I think this is the first one of these I've ever worn. -Those I applaud you for. -They look good. -My eyes went through a lot yesterday and they were really dry and they needed a break. -You're conscious of your outfit today for him. -100%. -This is it. -You're killing it. -So you chose, you were like, I'm going to wear these cool sporty shorts. -But I oftentimes wear sporty shorts. -I've never seen those shorts before. -I'm sorry. -He's her just like that. -I have a version of my outfit. -So I look young, right? -You look very young. -38? -Yeah. -Okay, I'm crash. I'm like, I've got you guys by almost 20 years. -What was the best, like, 10-year era of your life? You know, 10 to 20, 20 to 30, so on and so forth. -I think this is the best time. -Wow. -I hear that about this. -That's what my mom says. -Yeah. -Wow. -No, no, no. My mom's much older. She said her favorite era was her favorite era is right now and she's in her 70s. But she said her favorite ones were 50s, 60s and now 70s. -Let me do something. Do anything to drink, water, and water. -Whatever you got. -Why do you think you're 50s? -Let me tell you why. I think that when you. Listen, I was a very nerdy, not so cool kid or teenager or 20-something. -How could you not be cool? -I wasn't. Listen, I think you grow and talk. You grow and talk about this stuff for yourself. But literally, I thought. I remember this. I had this thought clearly when I was like 15 and awkward and weird. And I thought, "I'm going to be better when I'm 40." Like, because I felt like 40-year-olds had it more together. Like, I don't know. I was looking at my parents. I'm like, "They're cool." Because they did have cool parents. But I literally thought that was going to be best for me. So when I got my 40s, I felt really good and a bit more comfortable. But then something about when I turned 50 and it is that part where you're like, "Hey, you are a, what they call this, you are a storyteller for a long time." And then you move into your truth-telling season. And when you're a truth-telling, you don't have time to tell stories. You say, "Hey, do you want to go there?" And you're like, "No." -I like that. -There's no qualifier. -No, but, or make sure your feelings are okay. You're more like, "No." -Yeah, yeah. -I'm good. You're like, "I like these days." I'm like, "When I want to leave somewhere, it's like, I'm leaving." -Yeah, I think you're in my way. -I'm going to go home and stay. -My wife is more in that era than any human being in her life. -You've always been in the air, right? -She, well, I wish I had the same ability she had. Like, we could be at a dinner party at our own house. -She is good at that. -And she's just like, "All right, I'm just going to go up to the room for a little bit." -For a little bit means that's it. -It depends. Sometimes it means a little. Like, she has the ability also when she's done with something, she can just be like, "I'm going to leave." -Yeah. -It can be. -I don't have that. -But she knows herself. -Yeah. -She does, I think. -But you didn't do this before you were. -No, I don't think. I was too much of a people pleaser. -Yeah, me too. -And then I'm like. -She's teaching me. -She's teaching me what's on. -What's on? -Oh, Pisces. -Pisces. -What are you? -I don't know. -I've never seen anything like that. -I'm a Sagittarius. -Oh, Swaggettarius. It's November. -You don't believe in all that shit? -I do. -You were just saying that you read something? -I read this thing because this might make you believe more in it. Or maybe I thought of it. No, I think I read it, I'm not sure. It was not quite sure where this came from. - Yeah, he's shocking. Or if I do read something. (laughing) - I read it. - What I told you to read the best. - What I'm sorry about that. (laughing) - I read that like if the moon, 'cause everyone's like is this real, but think about the power, the moon has to move the entire ocean. - Think about it, it's true. - Think about the man walking. What's your sign? - Pisces. - He's making some Pisces. - We're born a week apart. - Really? - A man. - That's crazy. - A man walking. - You will have cruelly here too. - I know. - Gravity, like the specifics of everything are so highly specific that everything is possible. You know what I mean? - I don't know how you, I want to say that. - I want to say, you were leaving that shit, like that sounds crazy, but I think pretty much everything that's happening seems crazy with no answers for anything. So I can't outright be like that's crazy. 'Cause there's crazy. - Because everything's crazy. - Exactly. But also what I like about that, what I just about horoscopes, and I think maybe this is my sensibility about most things is you kind of got to believe in something. - Yeah. - Yeah, I feel, just something. - You could also believe in not believing in something. - You, yeah, but you have to be very committed to that. - Yeah. - Right? (laughs) - I believe in nothing, I believe in nothing. We got to double down this and never fucking down. - Yeah, I'm not doing that. - I believe in a lot of things. - I believe in two things, being good. - Okay. - For some reason, goodness, like holds. - So like, karmic, karmic, energy. - I guess, I don't know. - I just believe, I believe in being good. - That's good. - The other thing is I believe that I have no idea what's happening. - Yeah. - And that's kind of this, maybe I'm being simple minded. - But do you think that a lot of people believe in being good right now? - I don't know. - Like, like, what is the, 'cause it doesn't, it feels like there's almost a cost in being good. - I think people have different definitions of what good is, and they believe that they're. - They move the goalpost when it's convenient. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I think humanity at large believes in the good of humanity. I think if you pulled humanity, do you believe it? - I agree. - Yeah. - But I wonder what the percentage is. - I think there's a lot of greed though. - Yeah. - I think the thing is what has happened is that because it's always, right now everything has come out if I, it's all about money. - Yeah. - And money has been made people think that's more important. You know, fuck over anybody, whatever to get the thing. Or to have like this, this thing that passes like fame or something. Like, you know, this shit that, you're like, what really fucking matters? - Yeah, you're in, you know. - Social media has messes us up. - I really do think so too. - I think so. - Yeah. - Hey, in high school. So I was just about to get back. - Well Smith must have been the coolest guy of all time. I can't picture a more, like he defined my definition of cool, the fresh prints. - So it was, some are times not out yet. - Some are times not out yet. He's not even on Fresh Principle or yet. Right before that. - But he was like, but you said he was a rapper. - A local rapper. - He was a local rapper. - No, he was a local rapper and like he and Jazzy Jeff, they would do shows at the Wimbledon Room and all the cool kids went. I can go because I wasn't a cool kid. I heard about it. You know, I was too busy like, you know. - He's like the most popular kid in high school, no question. - He was. - Wow. - Yeah, that's true. He really was. - Yeah, exactly. - Yeah, I mean, he was like, but also I think. Listen, I went to a high school that was like, we either had kids who came in on the bus, which was me and he had kids. So like, you know, wealthy kids or middle class kids that came in with their parents BMW. I think he was on that side. - Yeah. - Yeah, you know what I mean? And so he was very much like, you know, he was just himself charismatic, wonderful. He went out with my friend Gina Cooper. When you see Will, I've ever seen him at like events or anything, like actor. - The last interaction I had with him is when I was working at El Torrito Restaurant in Philadelphia as a waiter. - Wow. - And I waited out. - This after he became very successful, moved to LA, came back and he had a big table with a bunch of friends and stuff like that. And I come out and like, hi, what can I get you? Was you like the, you know, burrito special? - Did he say he remembered you or not? - No, he looked at me like, like I look somewhat familiar. - Yeah. - Again, I was like a nerdy kid. - Yeah, really good friends with his girlfriend, Gina. - Okay, okay. - So he looked at me and I'm like, well, I'm with the high school together. He's like, oh man, we did, hey, how you doing? - That's cute. - And we hugged and that was it. I haven't seen anyone else go with me. - The weirdest thing is, throughout our careers now, yeah, I've never run into them. - That's so bizarre. - That's wild. I feel like that's rare. - It's really rare and weird. 'Cause we work with the same people. I'm sure we'll see each other at some point. And you know, they'll be warmth and shared history from Philadelphia. - You guys are just, you're busy guys. - When I saw, I don't even wanna say. - Well, you gotta say. - Well, you got to say it now. - I said, you're gonna start it now, you just close the door. - No, no, no, I'll talk about it later. - What has it been in the day? - No, I'll talk about it. - No, no, no, no, no. - Benny, let's talk about it now. Let's open it now. - Yeah, open up, Benny. - Just some of, when I told my mom you were coming up, you're truly one of my favorite actors. Like, you can become like a different human being. And it's, thank you, man. - It's great. - That's pretty sweet. - I was gonna start talking about all your stuff and I was like, I was like, - I think that's a great, that's such a nice compliment. - The funny thing is I do really, well first of all, thanks for the compliment. And I think that the funny thing is, I got this all, I was in Europe this week and I just kept getting this thing and it's funny to me. And I know now the reason why. And I'm not offended ever. When they're like, they're like, oh my God, well, no, I know you are. What have you been in? I'm not gonna do that with you, but. - Yeah, yeah, but. - If you were in such an awkward relationship, I'd be like, no, I don't see that. - I didn't watch that, don't like that. No, I don't watch that genre. So it's a whole thing. So I was like, so usually now I'm just like, you know what, I just have that face, but I keep changing, my face keeps changing, but you'll figure it out at some point. - Because I think that's the truth. - You think your face is changing? - I think my face changes. I mean, I can tell, I'm really objectable. - You can tell your own face. - I can tell my own face, but I can tell that I look, let's say, I can look different in everything. - Like your face gets fatter. - Yeah. - I tell the older, I look younger, you're like, I think when I come in the room, people are like, oh, you're actually taller, or you're actually younger, because I know, 'cause I'm like, yeah, whatever you saw me in last, I transform everything. - So you fully trans, like you transform your body. - I give you like, wait, I take my body. - I just have to know one thing, though. So, 'cause I've heard so many rumors about it, and I wasn't sure if it was true. When you did sing, sing, we're a lot of the actors actually in jail. All the actors were formally incarcerated, so they had just gotten out maybe a month before. - It was one of my favorite movies. - It was one of the best movies of that year. - Thank you. I had a film called Sing Sing. - Yeah, I think, I know. - It's unbelievable. - It's unbelievable. And, but most of 95% of my castmates were formally incarcerated men who went through this program, RTA, rehabilitation to three arts, where they learned acting skills and put them places, stuff like that. So, I developed this film about them and their stories. - Wow. - And then we just did it in a very small way. - So, you're telling me, the main other guy, that he was in prison for like 17 years. - First of all, he's like, he needs to be like, he's like an Oscar level actor. - Yeah. - So, while he was in prison, he was like learning how to act and do all these things. - And it was changing their lives. So, giving them a different deep sense of empathy, of purpose, she's an incredible thing to get back. - It's a good program. - And to help them. - I think the way sort of it was sort of laid out was they're played, we had them play versions of themselves when they incarcerated. - Oh wow. - So, they were able to tap into something, some real experiences, whether it's their own or things that they've seen. - Yeah. - And keep it in that container. But it really was just about like, I don't say I feel like we went, I can go to the whole thing of what we did, but it really does become like, Shakespeare always said that the strongest bond was the fraternable bond the bond of brotherhood. - Oh yeah, sure. - That's the strongest one. And so, for us, we were making this story about these two guys who don't think of anything in common. They're in prison and they need to help each other to move to the next level of sort of, I don't know, like, experience gratitude, whatever. And they do that with each other. So it really is about, ultimately for me, it's like, it's a film about brotherhood. It's not about prison, it's not about like anything like that. It's about like, these two guys are in this container called a prison and now they're like, they're both up for parole and they're trying to help each other. - I love that. I wanna cry right now. - What is that? It's just trash litter. - I'm sorry, that is me. That was me. - Are you just playing with the trash? - I can't make of the candles. I wanted it to smell good for you. - I'm obsessed with these. Sorry to decide, but I'm so cute. - I know. - I keep looking at these and these. - I don't know if they smell. I'm just scared to light them because they're so pretty. - They're so pretty. - I got an acting question. - Yeah. - Would you wear a fat suit or a game the way? - Both. I feel like I would do whatever I need to do healthy to game the way. But some support, like, I played Joe Jackson and Michael Jackson. - Yeah, I saw it when that thing came out. - You will see my face. - It's the biggest transfer. People are saying, I saw it and I didn't realize it was you. - You know, I read it. I read the thing. The first tweet, I read, it had like 10,000 retweets and it just said, can you say Oscars? That's what it's said. - Because also, it's like the prosthetics. It just really, really helps. - How many hours a day in the chair? - It took, it started at three, then we got it down to 90 minutes. - Wow. - Like, I had a great team, yeah, great team. - Just a lot of hours. - Hey Coleman, two questions. - Yes. - Does anyone ever call you Cole? - They do, only a few people. Then hey Cole, what's up? Who, one of my best friends, Sean Senna, he called me Cole. What's up Cole? - Can I call you Cole? - Sure. - Not yet. - But Cole is, I don't know why, but I don't really respond to it. Jay was my nickname growing up for Jason, a middle name. - Oh Jay. - Sean will call me Jay. - Jay, I need your help with something. - What you mean? - We are due a vacation. Everything that we think we have an idea and then like. - We're so particular. - Well, I'm glad you came to me. - Yeah. - We really talked, we're like, I bet you he knows. - Yeah, let's sit on the couch, listen to the couch. - Let's move to the couch. - You know why? - Because I am actually-- - Mr. Vacation. - Johnny Vacation. - Jay Vacation. - I don't know about anyone else to plan our vacations. I plan everything. - Really? - I plan a hotel. - Yeah, he doesn't even know how I play. - Oh, it's still right there, you can't say. - I would say, have you been, have you been, to Tokyo? - Oh my God, let's talk about parameters right now. - Is it warm there? Is it warm there? - No, there's just a hot, there's specifics to what the trip we're talking about. - Okay, okay, give me this, give me. - It's warm. - I'm your travel agent, let me know what you want. - Yes, okay, we want to go for, at four nights. - Four nights. - Four nights. - Okay. Four nights is short, so that means no longer, we're not sending you to Thailand, to Tokyo, okay? - Yeah, like we're thinking somewhere warm and beautiful and like, villa-y and like, vacation-y. - Oh, they like, you have to remember, he wants, the all-inclusive, like he wants, like, you don't wanna, - You think about him, get him everything. - I wanna think a little, and I would thought, no thought, just, it's- - No thought, no thought, just, it's- - Wood colored walls, wood colored walls. - A wristband, wristband. - I don't wanna. - Like, all-inclusive. - Now, can I ask you, do you want it, super private? Do you want it adult-only? - I don't care about adults-only, or- - You don't care about kids. - I don't care about the private thing, like, in any fame capacity, I just care about, like, having space to operate as a man. - Uproot as a man, so you must bring your penis to it. - Yeah, okay. - You guys might be thinking. - You should have a little bit of a romantic element to it, in my opinion. - 'Cause I'll be going. - I got it, yeah. - I got it. Now, well, two places. - Yeah, we're limited. - Four days, Toros Santos. - Where's that? - Oh, where's that? - That's right below Cabo. So it's Cabo, and it's North. You fly the Cabo, and the car will pick you up. There's a place called Patadero Hotels. - I already like it. - Patadero Hotels is fantastic, because you fly into Cabo, which is, you know, everybody goes Cabo. But then, the car will take you 45 minutes more north of the coast, and then into what looks like a beautiful, sort of farming area, private, it's a beautiful, beautiful hotel with everything's there. Yoga, swimming, whatever, it's beautiful. And your room is like, it's an architectural brutalist. - Oh, I'm out. - A brutalist. - Hold on, hold on. - Hold on. - It's interesting, it's interesting. - Okay, well, hold on, it's exterior. It just makes you feel like it's fortified, but then, outside, but then you, - I like your whole fortification. - Are you talking in steel? - I'm talking like, you know, concrete cement flabs, but then when you look outside, you see farms, and it's wooden, and it's outdoor showers. - I like that. - And then there's, we call it hammocks. - What's your number two for him? - Okay, the other place you're gonna tell you was called Naveva, which was a North of Punta which is. - Oh, yeah. - Anything near the Florela Keys? - Yeah, what about, what if we were talking domestic? 'Cause also, here's another thing. We wanna be able, we wanna be able to potentially, I shouldn't say this, travel with weed. - Oh, God. Why don't you just go to the Caribbean? - Why don't you try to kill me these days? - I've been doing a lot of things. - As you know me, you see I'm having massive strokes over here. I mean, bring up Orlando. - Orlando, kind of, Epcot, we can go to a lot of places that want to be seen. - How am I just killing you right now? - Domino's created the Domino, and now we're here. - Oh my God, pepperoni? I kid you not. - Bro, you're aware it can puncture my eyes for being a balcony, how you want to go? - I can do up to three toppings, and you can choose your own sauce. You don't have to compromise. You can choose your own topping. Like, you could have a filly steak. She could have pineapple. I could have garlic, parmesan sauce, or if I'm feeling spicy, I could have some honey barbecue. - I never compromise. - You don't, that's why these are good for you. - Whether you're a cheese person, a pineapple person or something totally different, the Domino, let you make it your own. - You should probably compromise in your life. - That with the Domino. - Let's talk about olipop. - I would love to. - I'm gonna have this pomegranate sparkle. - Ooh. - Limited edition holiday flavor. - First time tasting it, incredible. - This is unbelievable. - Is it? - Olipop does really knock it out of the park, and this is fun 'cause it's- - The limited edition holiday one, and I like it a little. - Holiday drink? - It's, this is unbelievable. - Can we talk about this yeti on the cupboard? - What does it yeti? - This. - I know, but what? - It's a white beast. - Oh yeah. - It's got six grams of fiber. - Much if you drink four or five of these a day, you'll have all the fiber you need. You'll be a baddie for fiber. - I love fiber, and I like what it does to my body. - You got, you're gonna get the fiber? You're getting the fiber. - And I'm gonna get a limited amount of sugar. Four grams only. - By only two cans of polypop and store, and I'll pay it back for one. Any flavor, any retailer, go to drinkolypop.com/fks. - You guys know I'm taking a shopping trip on what not? - What's working on? - Are you serious right now? - Dad. - Dad. - We got e-fish_co. Look at him right now. You see this? - You guys see this? - This is a live auction right now. You like crab legs? - Oh my gosh. - Dad, I do. - Okay, I love crab legs. You know what else I like? I like swordfish. - I also like bar-car. - But I also like salmon. This guy is amazing. You know he actually supplies to Jose Andres? - Chef Jose Andres. - I gotta stay on this live. I gotta stay locked in. You might have to take the rest of the thing. - Do your thing on what not? So on what not, you can get other stuff too, like clothing, right? And jewelry if I wanted. Antiques, maybe I assume so, yes? - Yeah, it's got a lot of other stuff, right? - Got it. I hope you guys like crab legs. - I like to go hard on vacations three days, balls to the wall, drink, be free, eat whatever I want, feel not guilty, go home. - That's me. - I think three to pushing to four is good. - Yeah. - But three, I can get a lot done. - Me too, and I wanna go, I wanna like, really give it my all. - I'm literally, my husband knows the two. We get off the plane, we get into the hotel, I'm like, okay, 'cause I like the organized first. I usually like to unpack my bags. - You are an unpacker? - I'm an unpacker, I'm an unpacker, too. - I never unpacked once. - What? - You live out of the bag. - No, I need to see that. - She just unpacked me because she can't see that. - I need to sign out. - I'm so sure, I need to lay things out, I need to know what's out there. - Don't you have anxiety that you'll forget one thing? Like, if you take everything out, what if you then put it somewhere in the back court and you didn't see it, and then you're just studying yourself up? - Oh, 'cause I do a full sweep before me, too. - Yeah, me too. - Okay. - You also can't waste a good outfit on the wrong meal. - Yeah, you take pictures of what you were wearing beforehand? - No, but I do like to just see the lay of the land, get that done, and then I'm like, yo, quick freshen up and let's go hit the streets. - Do you go and get a cool lunch with a nice drink and then wander? Or do you just laugh? - No, I just wander first and see what it takes me to say. Literally, the best times I've had meals, and why are you just hit you with this? - Yeah, I like that. - That's sweet, the best time I've just, the best time. - It is, it's a little while. - It's sweet, it's sweet, it's a bit better. - You're connected. - What, what friends now? - I like the way you drive off. - My favorite Paris meals are when you go pick stuff up at the local cheese shop, the local bakery, and then you go eat it in the park. It's my favorite meals I've ever had. - Yeah. - One of my favorite museums in the world is there. The Little Picasso Museum. Have you been there? - I've never been there. - I hate museums. - I always feel like it's too much pressure to go to a museum. I feel like you shouldn't, you shouldn't be pressure. You should be like, if you feel like it. - I feel like I can tell you is, I have been to museums over my life at nausea. - And you're never happy. - Every time I go into a sandwich, I don't like museums, but you're the worst to go to a museum. - And then I think maybe this one will be a museum that I like. I have never liked a museum. - But hold on, wait, of course, you look, you have this design holiday thing. So is there any element of something, of an artist or something you wanna see? Or like, I also probably haven't been to the best museum. - Have you been to UC? - No. - I don't know. - What museums have you been to? - You know, in, I think. - The Cleveland modern, I went to the Philadelphia. - I feel in the Philadelphia Art Museum. - Hey, Philly. - The Philadelphia Art Museum is incredible. - Don't you stop and look at stuff. He does a speed walk through. He just walks through. - He's wearing the stars. - It wasn't there for hours. - Was it a year or two? - That's where the sarcophagus is of the-- - No, we went to the catacombs in Sicilian, which I had to spend time. - Look, it's so dirty. - Oh my God, what am I gonna do? Look at 355 of the same looking skeletons over and over again. - I was anxious 'cause he was just speed walking and I felt like he had to kind of stop and like connect with the-- - Oh my God. - What about a church? - I think it's so-- - Let me just finish. - It's a so bizarre, I don't know if it's just me, for us to walk around this thing. Look at every individual, literal, old dead person. - Yeah, I'm like-- - I feel bad. - I feel bad for the dead people when I'm in the catacombs. - I feel like-- - 'Cause they didn't expect this. - And I just feel like there's a person-- - Why would they pay for it? - I don't know why, but I feel like this. - I feel like because everyone knows that they are looking at what was a human. Everyone internally feels this, you know, burning desire to prove that they are a good person and really over, look, the human. They stand and they, I'm thinking, what was this? - But maybe I'm just-- - As a person who was there, I was trying to connect with the see what I could connect with. I was trying to think, who was this person? What were they doing? What was their lie? - Maybe I was scared to do that. Is this a French fry thing? What is this? - Popcorn. - It's popcorn. - Oh, baguette for parents that I like. - I don't know why I didn't get that. - French fries. What type of French fries? - A popcorn with legs, so. - Wait, what are these four? Are these four? - They're just cute to hold back. - You don't have stuff to animals? - I realized now I probably need this 'cause I have a very-- - Our stuff is just like, look like, you know. It's nice. - Well, we need a little more child. - I feel like you need that 'cause suddenly I'm like, oh, maybe I need this when I'm sitting around. - And I love that fall. - Do you have one of those houses where you don't want to sit down in certain rooms? - No. - Our house is all, it's a newer house for us. We've had this house for two years. It's very design, lovely. It's getting warmer. I'm making it warmer now. - Did you design yourself? - I'm writing it up. - I do all, yeah, I do the interior design. - It's my favorite thing. - What is your aesthetic in your house? What is your stuff? - In this house? - Imperialism. - No, in this house, the way we did, it feels like you're at a resort. It feels like you're on vacation. - I love that. - It's like little French, Italian, Spanish. So it feels like you're somewhere old. It's like very cozy still and all the rooms, and it's like, it's like, you have some modern touches that you're good at. - And it's like, like the walls are like lime wash. So it looks like it's falling apart. - It's pretty distinct. I've never been to a home like it, really. - Yeah. - I'm overwhelmed with art, and you have really good art everywhere, but art, do you have a lot of art? - I have a lot of art. - How do you pull the trigger on an art piece? Do you like it? spend money on our obviously ever. - I guess if I do, I've been spending my money on photography lately. - Ooh! - When you carry me weems and stuff like that. So, I just, you know, I love, like, you know, suddenly sorely, so I buy smaller things. I don't know, I feel like that's, if I spend money these days on anything, I spend it on art and jewelry. - You got a lot of jewelry? - Yeah, I got a lot of jewelry. I'm like, I'm like, let's tell her for this joint. - I can't do that. - I love jewelry. I love jewelry. - I love jewelry. - You love jewelry? - I love jewelry. - I just got my mom's. - I love diamonds. - I love diamonds. - I love diamonds. - I got an old watch. - I've never watches. - Never watches. - I just got one that's up means. - No, you have a rubber band or what you are on this, that's all right. - Thank you for saying that. - So, prior to this wedding ring, the only piece of jewelry, this is the only other jewelry I've ever worn in my life. Prior to this, and honestly, sometimes I look at it and I think, wow, like you're edgy. Like, I think like, I've never felt like more of a rapper than when I look at that ring. - Yeah, that's what you're blinged out now. - Yeah, which is like so antithetical if that's the right word to. But this rubber band, so basically, I've never worn any accessory fashion wise ever. I did sometimes, when I was younger, wear wristbands. - Oh, like the Nike swoosh, like baby. - Like a wet band. - Yeah, but that was lame. - One of the hits? - I don't like that. I did, but I'm playing sports for sure. - Very cool. - But this is a Whole Foods rubber band that my mom just brought some home one day when I was like 12 and I just wore it on my wrist and then I really liked it. And then sometimes, girls, they have hair bands and I wore a girl's hair band. I guess a relationship with, and that felt cool. And I just always have had a Whole Foods rubber band on my wrist. - You always keep a Whole Foods rubber band. - Now Whole Foods stopped making these rubber bands last year. - Like the fact that I was like, oh, that's a rubber band. - Did you hear what I just said? - Yeah, they stopped making them. - So my whole life, since I was 12, I'm running out of rubber bands. I got a Whole Foods. I got a new packet. - A green rubber band. They have brother did the same thing. - They have, they last year stopped making them. - What? - My mom had saved them up, so I've been living off my, and each one lasts like maybe two months. - This one is old. - Two months. - But some of them is. - Because at some point, they'll crack and break. - Yeah, and look, they collect. They collect, like, lint, and then-- - Yeah, that's kind of gross. - And then I have a decision to do it. - Yeah, that's, I saw the lint. - You saw the lint. - I saw it from over here. Yeah, I was like, that's kind of gross. - That one is so stretched out. Normally, they're cute in my eye. - And there's a pub in there. - Yeah. (all laughing) - It is disgusting. - You're like, don't worry about where it's been called, man. Sometimes I'll use it as a cocktail. - I analyze this. - Exactly. - These are so important to me that basically, my only option is I've found a different distributor that makes a different green rubber band of a similar size. It's a different shade of green slightly. I do like the shade of green, but it's just not the same rubber band. But I started kind of cycling them into my rotation. But still, I thought-- - Only one. Do you not wear, like, a couple, like, three or four? - No, I wear one, and then it wears in tears, and then I get a new one. - Oh my God, I have to-- - I think you should get a tattoo, love it. - I have to tell you a story. - That would be hot. - That would be really cool, actually. I think we should take them for tattoo, right now. - I would love that. - Dave always used to make fun of how I dressed. - We would always-- - But how long did you guys know each other? - Like, two or three years. - No, like 11 years now. - 2014. - How'd you guys-- I'm sorry, you answered that. How'd you guys meet? - He was a big fan. - The first day he ever released music, I reached out to him. - Really? - And first, it was hard not to see him as a fan, but then eventually, when we hung out, when we hung out more and more, I learned that-- - I'm sure you want to selfie, of course. - Yeah, I never asked us, did you know who he was? - No, but I was, when I googled, like, who is this Benny Blanco with all these followers? I was immediately like, oh my God, this is cool. - So, you organically became friends after that. - So then he reached out and then like, we kept missing each other, but then we'll meet as soon as we hung out one time. It was instant, that's friendship. - Yeah, yeah, once we hung out once, and then we were-- - And we can't remember the first time. - And we can't remember the first time. We remember the first time we met on Zoom, 'cause the first time I ever met him on Zoom or something. - That wasn't the first time I ever met. - Oh, I put him, I put him on the phone. We literally wrote a song for a movie, and he was just like, what? Like he was like blowing his-- - Yeah, it was cool, I was like in my little apartment, and like, you know, I was recording music at night, and my neighbors would be like, hey, like, can you please stop wrapping? Like, we can hear it, and that-- - I was just saying. - I wanted to text him and be like, it's cool that you're hearing it. You don't even understand. - You don't understand. - I would never-- - Because he wasn't so big yet. - And actually, I totally-- - You're gonna blow the fuck up. - I totally understood, even independent of how good I was, I totally understood the burden it was causing my neighbor, and I worked with them to-- - Now, what do they think, those neighbors? - I don't think they care, and I think that there's just a annoying to hear someone like, it's not like I'm like putting on a virtual show performance, I'm probably like doing the same-- - You're working some shit out. - Yeah, like over and over again, and like, so-- - Were you wrapping loud? - Yeah, I was recording actual music. Recorded before all-- - And where was this apartment? - Santa Monica. - Okay, so you okay? - Right near Stella Barra. - Okay, cool. - Okay, pizza over here. - So, yeah, so-- - Dave? - Sorry. - Used to make fun of the way I dressed, and one day, we were going to a party, and he said, he said, okay, he said, I'm gonna show you how ridiculous you are, and he put on one of my outfits. I had like a, it was like a pair of overalls, and like-- - It looked like a coal miner. - And some other stuff, and-- - It looked like I was in like a movie set in a different time, and he was trying to-- - He was trying to prove a point to me. So we go to a party, and literally all night, everyone was like, Dave, you look incredible. Like, people were coming out to him, telling him how well he dressed. - I felt my outfit was funny, right? - Right? - And it was funny, 'cause I do believe in it. - But people were just coming to me, and like, you know, like cool outfit. - It turned into style. - Like, you should wear this outfit, Dave. This will look good on you. - Would you wear this? - Yeah, I would wear dress. - Would you wear it, you guys are. - I would wear style to that. - Well, you know, when I really, I listen, I've seen you a couple times, and where we, I think, listen, this is where I deeply fell in love. (laughing) - At the moment, 'cause I said, I complimented your shoes. You were wearing some little ballet flats or something. - Yeah. - And that's sparkles. - It had sparkles, and literally he did this. He did this. - Yeah. - And I was like, fucking love this guy. This guy, we're gonna be friends. - Yeah. - 'Cause that's the way, I get very proud of, like, - You're outfit. - People have. He was so, he was so, but he was like, you were suddenly, you were like eight years old. - Yeah. - You were so happy. - I went like this. - Literally went like this. I went, and then I went, I went like, like I, like, curve-seater. - Literally, I was like, okay, this guy is amazing. (laughing) - It looked good. - No, but you were like, someone on some carpet. Where were we, the gold gloves? - Something, it was like, it was, it was my, like, for, you're like a style icon, for him to say, like, he was like, wow, and he said, like, he first he mentioned my jewelry, and I was, I was wearing like this, like, Victorian, like, - Oh, I know that. - You were in that class. - I was wearing this Vintage, yeah, that thing. - I know that, I know that. - Yeah, I have, I have such a good. - But it was a little shoe. - I always cared about your style. - Was it stylish when you were, like, a loser? (laughing) - When you style as me, you know, I think, listen, I have a picture that has made it, it's way around the internet of when I was like, seven years old, and I'm sitting in between my brother and sister, and I have my legs crossed like this, and I'm wearing a little fucking tidy jacket. I look super fucking, I look like a running shit. - Yeah. - So I think I've always had a sense of that. - Yeah, okay. - I know that even when I was a kid, I just, like, care about what I look like. - So why weren't you, why weren't you cool if you were, like, dressed cool? - You were cool. - You're like a hot guy. - I wasn't cool, no, I was not hot, cool, anything. - You had no beard, huh? - I had no beard, no, when the beard's gone, whoa, it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, me, like, do you have me without a beard? - No, me without a beard, I feel like my face needs something. - I need a beard. - Yeah, exactly. - Would you shave, what about a roll? You shave it for? - I've shaved it for rolls, and it's really, I just feel like, and people, they're like, no, come on, I'm like, I don't think I have much of an upper lip, without a mustard, the mustard lip. - You have a big eye. - No, no, no, no, no, me. No, it grounds my face. - Ah. - But listen, you say how do, most dudes are wearing beards now. You know why? - Yeah. - 'Cause you give you a fucking chin. - Yeah, no. - It gives you the fine, it gives you the fine. - It gives you the fine. - Can I have something? - Yeah. - So I was always kind of, in my opinion, ugly growing up, like, maybe not a ugly child. - I think I'm attractive now. - I think she's hot now. - I think I'm handsome now. - Yeah. - I mean, to me, no. - But when you were a child, you weren't. - Oh, he was hideous. - He was hideous. - You weren't a sexy baby. - No, he was hideous. - There's pictures where he looks 70. I look sick. - Oh, okay. - Especially in my room, that's fine. - Like what's he as like? - 'Cause he didn't like, shave your hair, cut. - I got a buzz cut, I had a widows peak, whatever. - A widows peak in a buzz cut. - You don't want to try it? - Anyway, I grew up in this beer. - You've never seen it, haven't you? - No, I've never seen your widows. - He has a widows. - Oh, I guess I have when you put your hair back, I get it. - I grew the beer instantly became so much more handsome. - So the ladies are just like? - I don't know about that. - No, just like, wow, like now, yes, I have a girlfriend. Everything changed. I became like, just changed everything fundamentally. So of course, I never shaved my face at all for like 15 straight years. Then for a role, I had to shave my face and I realized I hadn't actually seen my raw face as an adult ever. - So last time it was. - I didn't feel. I just did it. I literally was shocked at what I looked cool. - I looked 12 when I shaved, still. And I already looked young for my age now, but I looked really much. - I used to have a go-t for a little while and I had like a must just a must at home. - I can't believe what I looked like for a little while. - Wait, let me find it. It's shocking. - You look like a prince in a Disney movie. - You look like a prince in an evil prince in a Disney movie. - You know, like, you have to be like distinctive, like. - Honestly, I'm a shit. - Would you ever shave your eyebrows for a role? - No, for a role? - No, because they won't fucking grow up. - No, like Scorsese is like, "Well, you need to shave your head eyebrows." - Oh my gosh, I have to fuck up Scorsese. Leave my fucking eyebrow. - No, because I was about to shave everything. - No, because these days, you go fucking put shit over it and like. - Would you do anything for the role, though? - No. - Really? - Anything? - Well, as long as it's for the role. - Yeah, they're like. You gotta shave. Like, it's like you're like a cancer, like, and like everything, all your hair's going to hurt everything. - Like, there was a role that I was going to do for a film where I would play a character who had ALS. - And literally, I knew that. - Okay. - And I'm still scared if the film comes around, I'm almost afraid of it because I know what the responsibility of what you have to. what your body does. And I feel like I've tried to go for the truth of things. But the thing is the thing, the messed up thing, and we all know this is people that act, is like your body, your psychology doesn't know that you're acting. And that's the thing I'm afraid of, is like, you know, to go that far and respect that. - So you take that into consideration, like you, like, yeah, I mean, I guess-- - I knew that like this one role, I sort of like moved it off of the table 'cause I feel like I know that I have to be really prepared to do that. And I don't know if I'm in a place. Right now, I'm in a place of like, I want to do things that are lighthearted. They're a bit more light. I just don't, it's too much darkness. - Same thing, wasn't it? - Yeah, literally was after that, after that. I was like, oh, you know, I think those movies that are like, everything's gonna rip your heart open. - It was so good. - Can you not, like, when you go home after a day of filming, can you turn off or like, in the entirety of the role are you kind of often? - I picture off the moment I walk out. - Oh wow. - Yeah, I just feel like, people who like talk about, okay, I'm not gonna talk about my colleagues, but people talk about method and being so deeply, they gotta, I feel like, yes, you set the environment in every way that you need to act to do the job. And then you need to know how to let that go. And usually like, I let it go, I go have a good meal, I get back into my script or whatever. There's certain ways that I feel like, let's see movie like sing-sing. I made sure like, role didn't come out to visit me, 'cause I think, I'm like, no, I just need to be with these guys. This is my reality, I need to be with these guys. My, the guy who played my best friend, Sean San Jose, who's also my best friend. He literally stayed in my room with me, 'cause I was like, because we were roommates in prison, I'm like, that's the part of reality that I like, that I need. But it keeps it me closer to the material. But I'm not that person's gonna be like, oh, I'm just gonna be in a prison and eating what they gave me and all that. - So you never do like a machine. - Guys, I can't stop thinking about the unpacking thing. I know that other people are living out of their suitcase when they vacation. So I need Yahoo Scout to just clarify a few things for me, 'cause I've been ruminating, I'm thinking, am I really the only guy out there living on the suitcase? So I wanna know Yahoo Scout. Do most people unpack or live out of a suitcase on vacation? Deciding whether to unpack or live out of a suitcase, on vacation often depends on the length of your stay. That's fair. With many travelers preferring to settle in the drawers, if they are in one place, for three nights or longer. Interesting. It's a length issue, which I can understand, but I ask a little follow-up question, if you don't mind. What is the best argument for not unpacking? Because there's gotta be a reason. Choosing not to unpack is often described as a strategy that turns your luggage into a minimalist living system. With systems based people, optimizers, it allows you to maintain a constant readiness for your destination. So Yahoo Scout, thank you for holding me down again and providing me clarity when I need it at most. I'm gonna get back to Coleman. But do you think you ever pick up characteristics of like the personalities of the roles that you play? Like little things here and there that might just carry on as you move forward in life? And maybe, but I think more than anything, there's all. All these people who've delivered me in some way. And so I know that something else gets activated in a different way. So I know that I see something different that I give to that character. It's not in that character. Like I can, you know, oh, what's that? I couldn't find it. I've been looking for five minutes for a portrait. What is it? It's the closest thing I can do to provide you with a picture of me shaving, but it's not even a good, 'cause I have like a mustache and a thing. A friend made this for me. Wow, you have a very different face. What is it? Jasper made it for me. Let me see it. But you look like a tough guy. What is this? What is this? A biker. Oh, yeah. You look like a Han. You look like you a fuck somebody. I look like I could be in a biker gang. But also, your hair's back, too. Yes, licked. You look, it also, it just looks like a different person. Yeah. Yeah. Imagine being surprised at who you are. Like truly, it's just one of a shocking thing. I had no clue what I looked like. But also, which is wild because it's like, you have such a, just meaning you have a lighter personality. Yeah. And this. It's a keys. I know. I like that I have that card for a role. I like that I can have a totally different look that I can. Whatever. Wait, can I? That's just you with the. What is this? Wait, so I have an acting question. And I've been a little upset. And then I have a very cool. For the last two minutes, thinking about finding the right picture. So, like for me, I have trouble. I'm not. I consider myself an actor, but I didn't grow up, like, thinking about myself as an actor. And I probably. No facial hair. By the way. Wait, let me see. Wait, I gotta see. It's a little blurry, but that's. Yeah. Wait. I guess that does. Oh, I do. I do understand it. I understand the lip thing. I understand it. Oh, see. Let me see. Do you understand the lip thing? See, I'm saying? Yeah. I just said the grounds that lip make it appear. No. Let me see this thing again. So, do you. No. You look like a different guy. I trim down every day. Do you trim? It's a different guy. What year is this? That's 2014. And this was for a role. That's for a role. So, you would never. You would never do it. I would never do it for myself for a role. I had to do it because I had to do it. I had to play all these attacks. I like it. Right? See? Yeah. I like it. You're like a miracle, man. No, but I think you look good in there. No, no. You look great in there. You look like a different person. You're an actor's actor. Right? Yes. I think I like to believe so. I think you are. Yeah, for sure. Like, to me, I think I could be a great actor playing myself. Like, easy. So, you know, I'm sure that's not even acting. I think to myself, wow. If Steven Spielberg came to me and he said, "Hey, would you be in this movie set in 1600s or something?" And I had to play a soldier who, like, talked differently. I would really have a lot of fear and probably. Oh. All I think I could do is practice as hard as I can. But at the end of the day, for me, I feel like I can't do anything. I can think logically and train to give what I think for my taste is the best type of performance. Right? But I could never convince my brain that I am this other person. Really? Why isn't it? I don't know. I'm always aware that I. You're aware of yourself. Yes. And that's the thing about, I think, an actor you have to learn to sort of, like, give up yourself in a way. So, how does that act? How do you do that? Like, the choice that I make as an actor, let's say, like, "Oh, I'm married to Regina King in this thing right here, right?" I have to find all the things that make it a reality. I'm like, "What am I trying to do about her when I see her, whatever?" It's, yeah, common-making decisions as an actor based on the character of what the relationship is. But, okay, as you're shooting these movies, in what it's cut, in between takes. It's common analyzing everything, exactly how common- Is that analyzing anything? No, it's not. No, because I think that's the death to anything. Think about the way you make music and all. Like, yeah, well, that could be different, because I think there's a different way to analyze this stuff. I think you have to almost be in service to the thing and not overthink certain things. Like, if you, for me, and I feel like I've had an actual clash with another actor talking about process. One actor talking about, "Oh, I just need to go on and say it, set, and just, like, be available and do all this stuff for me. For me, I have to research and study so much. I prepped for any movie, like, four or five months in the past." Yes. Are you looking in the mirror and saying the lines and being like, "No, I don't like it, no." No, you're doing research, you're doing text work, you're looking at the text, what does it say, what does it mean? With no delivery practice? No, you read the script, but you're not practicing the delivery. You're not looking at, like, how this guy acts as way as face moves. No, you can't be conscious of any of that stuff. How did you do it? Let's, here's an example. Let's say, Joe Jackson. Yeah. Yeah. Joe Jackson, you can research him, you can find out about him, you can find out his voice patterns, the way he laughs, images, all that. You can take in all that. You can get information on what he'd like to eat, drink, all this other shit. You get all this information. You could, I look a lot of images. I look at his body. Is it the way he positions his body? A lot of times, he was a bit more hunched over. He would, like, do this a bit more. He would bring his mouth out, and he would talk a bit more like this. And even the way he spoke to people, he would get people sort of to lean in. And I think it was a powerful thing. So, like, a lot of times, he would talk like this. How are you doing, Michael? He was from, you know, sitting there. Yeah, I don't know. So, I think that he would, but here's the worst example. Because that's a historical figure. But you didn't practice that. I didn't practice that. You don't practice that. I started to find it. And it's that, I look for things even like with my hand. Like, let's say when I played, it said, okay, when I'm making up a character or the difference between, like, playing with a character. Making up a character. Yeah. I can make up choices right now. Like, just say, like, let's say, it's all technical, too. Let's say he starts with a voice. Let's say, give me a character to make up. Oh, like a drug addict? Like a drug addict? Yeah. Okay, drug addict. What drug? Oh, the character. He's just a heroin. Heroin. Heroin. What does heroin do to the body? Has anybody noticed anybody here? It slows the body down. Yeah. A lot of nodding out. Okay. They're low sleepy. Yeah. Where's this person from? They're from New York. From New York. New Yorker. New Yorker. Okay, it's me. I'm playing it. So, I'm going to say, okay, he's from Brooklyn. Happy child life? Happy? Yes. Yeah, he was a happy kid. Yeah. He like foul into this. He's not from a broken home. Okay, so he's got a lightness to him as well. Yeah. Maybe we can start to pitch his voice. I'm like, if my voice naturally sits here, and I could take it up higher, and take it up higher, and take it up higher, and take it up higher, and take it up higher. Maybe even right here. Maybe I want to place it right here. And just like, hey, how's it going, you guys? It's hot. And is he on heroin right now? He looks like it. Maybe. He looks like it might be. I think so. And then he could nod off a little bit as well. Right? Yeah. Right, but you can place his voice. You can place it. But aren't you calling it a demand? That was so good. Making these decisions made stuff your own life experiences and your impression. No, no, no. I know. I'm locked in. I want to see more of this. People listen. Listen. People always say like, oh my god. When I started to think saying, I should've known. It was so real. I just knew that somebody you knew was in prison here. Yeah. No, nobody I know was in prison. What you just did was so real. [BLANK_AUDIO] in that moment. Like, this is like an acting exercise. - But I want to go back to how you lose yourself. Like, how do you not have the entire, how are you not self-aware the entire time? - Because you can't have judgment on anything. - You yourself as an individual, you go into the role being like, I'm not going to judge myself at all. - Absolutely. Even when it comes to looking at playback, if I look at playbook on something, I'm not looking at my performance. - I want him to be another person. - Who would it be? - David. - Let's think about it. - Wait, no, no, no, no. Historical figures are two, that's a different game. - You're not an historical figure. - This I am. - Oh, I guess so. - Okay, okay, wait, let's have him be it. - I was thinking, I was thinking dead. - Wait, let's have him be, let's have him be. (laughing) Can you guys tell me a little bit about this recent birthday trip you guys had in Malibu, where you stayed at a home on Airbnb? - It was truly heaven. It was so much fun. I wanted to just, we wanted to get away for my birthday and look at the ocean, but we wanted to feel, we wanted to like pretend that we lived there 'cause I love Malibu. - I felt like I lived there. I really connected with this home. We stayed there for like three days. I don't even know that I want to. - Yeah, we're really, we love the home so much. We're like gatekeeping it. I remember thinking this literally this was the shower thought. I was like, this, why don't we do this more? - Yes. - I literally was thinking this is so. - What's up for home on Airbnb? - Yes. - And like go away for the weekend. We don't have to go too far. I actually looked for this weekend. - Did you have a great birthday? - I had a great birthday. - Happy birthday. - Happy birthday. Thanks, too. - Airbnb, honestly. - Guys, my haircare routine just leveled up thanks to head and shoulders. And I'm a guy who needs it because I have been in high leveraged situations in my life, red carpet, black suit, and I've had white chunks of skin. - I've seen that. - Yes, not anymore. 'Cause I've leveled up my haircare routine with head and shoulders. - It's a classic. - I was there. - Yeah. I didn't need to level up in the loyal customer sense. - 1999. - Yeah? - Yep. - You head and shoulder? - Yep. - Look, new head and shoulders. Classic clean, it's got new hydrazink. - I love myself, some hydrazink. - Yeah, gives me 24/7 day of protection even between washes. So all day, every day, that's not a saying. That's a reality. - And I gotta say. - This one all men just smells so good. - You know why it's so good? It gets to the root of the problems, not just the symptoms. - High stakes, no flakes. - Should we have them be a woman? - I can be a woman. - No, no, no, no, no, I want a man for it. Well, let's do two. Let's do two. - Okay. - Chris and gets to decide the first one and or Dave decides this one and then I'll decide the last one. - Shopkeeper of a 1950s. - What? - I thought he, he, he can do her first shop. - Shopkeeper of a 1950s library. - Shopkeeper. - Shopkeeper. Shopkeeper of a 1950s shop. - Shopkeeper, how about like a, like a hacker? - Oh, a hacker. - A hacker. - Like a 20, like a modern day, like, you know, technological-- - Like Facebook, like, you know. - I don't like it. - I don't like it. - No, I'm gonna come up with this. How about I just make something real for you right now in the moment? - Yeah. - Because I feel you can always do it very quickly and people always just like, "How can you fucking do this so quickly?" 'Cause you want to do it, you just go, like, for all that I could ever read, could ever hear. By tale of history. The course of true love never did run smooth. But either it was different than blood or else misgraphed in respective years or else it stood upon the choice of friends. Or if there were a sympathy in choice. War, death, or sickness they'd lay siege to it making it the moment and he has a sound. Swift as a shadow short as any dream brief as the lightning and the colleague night that an explain unfolds both heaven and earth. And Aramann was powered to see behold. The jaws of darkness do devour it up. So quick. - Are you improving or scripting? - Right, just things. - What's that mean? - Comte to confusion. - Are you improving or is it scripting? - That's Shakespeare. - Shakespeare. - Yeah. - Wait, you just memorized, you, you, you done. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Okay. - Yeah. - That's the clock. - That's the clock. - That's where I made it. - But how you can, listen, how you can just like, take something you know and make it a reality in the moment. And you can make it, I was like, sad, like, you make it. - I don't know, this is my main point. - Did you give Dave all of this? - Dave, what? - I think if I ever do succeed in doing any of these things. - Okay. - It will not, from, maybe it's just 'cause I can't and I need to learn how, but it's, it's not really coming from Dave Bird letting go the reins. It's coming from Dave Bird kind of being aware of the facts at hand, analyzing his own skill set, making a decision of what. - But I think that's the trouble. You got it, it can't be about you. That's the thing, okay, how about this? It can't be about you. It's about you using your intelligence, your skills, your knowledge should, to figure out this character, and then let it be about this person. Like that's where you have no judgment in any way. So it's a really, there's a strange thing that actors do. - Yeah. - Like you've gotta be in service to the role and the work. And it's not about you. You can't be like, oh it's Dave making, everybody's gonna look at me, they're thinking about what I'm doing. - Yeah, yeah, I don't know that that's my concern. It's more, I just can't help but be aware of the reality that I am trying to come up with a solution to serve the thing. Like I'm just trying to serve the thing. I'm not saying I'm a selfish actor. I want to serve the thing. I want to do exactly what the director and writer want me to do. I'm just saying I don't ever feel like I can get to a place mentally where I'm like, I'm not even me. I'm this other person. - Well that's where you gotta do the work. - I think that's, I think it's, how can I, do I just need to go to therapy or something? - I think a good therapist will work for you. - Yeah. - Like, okay, so I went to an acting coach, one of the best in LA and by the way, 'cause I had to do a crying scene, right? And I was like, to me, I gotta get emotional here. I really want to, to be good. And I don't know the right way to approach it because when I think about it, I think, yeah, I feel it. - You know the problem is, I'll tell you that's already, 'cause I know exactly what, the moment you said, it's a crying scene. That's death. - I understand that. - You know why? - Why? - But even if it's written down there, he cries, he sobs here. You can't start there because what, go ahead, tell me. - Pretend, I understand what you're saying. Pretend I just had emotional scene. It's like a deeply emotional scene, right? I want it to be like, really emotionally. - Even that, okay, you know why? Because I feel like the moment, the thing, the tricky thing that we do to ourselves, if you think something has to be emotional, it fucks you up. You have to think about your actions. What do I want? What do I need? What will happen if I don't get it in the scene? - But if the scene is an emotional scene. - But you can't know that it's an emotional scene. - I can, I can't. - Just think about the scene. We don't know that somebody's about to cry right now. - No, but then when it says John cries in the scene, we know that he cried. - But fuck that, ignore that shit. - Really? - You see that, ignore it. What you have to do is take yourself back to where you are, what you, let's see, John cries in the scene, okay? We're saying John cries in the scene right now. What happened to John on the way here? What's going to happen? What's going to trigger him in this scene to make something emotional happen? But if we walk him thinking, "Oh fuck, I'm going to have to cry in the scene." We're not looking, doing the work to come in to actually let it be alive. And well, you have to walk into the scene, just like, "Oh, John walks into the scene, "fines out his mother's debt, okay?" He's going to get emotional in some way. But also, you don't want to say that he cries because maybe John doesn't react that way. So whatever it is emotional, he gets emotional, which I think is a great way to put something in a script because you're not dictating what the fuck that person does. So, John walks into the room, John walks into the room and his mother, and his brother walks into him and it's just like, and he just walks in. He came in from like, it was a hard fucking day at Walgreens where he fucking walks, he hated fucking life. - I love Walgreens. - Shit like this. His mother, before in the morning, was just like, "I'll see you when you get home. "I got something for you." - Yeah. - With something special, whatever. He walks in and his brother's like, "Mom's dead." And he's like, "Wait, what?" "Mom's dead." He doesn't even know how to experience this. And maybe rage comes because I don't know, he fucking hates his brother. I don't know, it's something. Whatever it is, but he plays what's in the scene and then let that be a reality. And of course, you're working with the director, you're working everybody. And everybody will like help you to finesse what that moment is, but you make it the reality. But you come in from like, "Fuck, how the hard fucking day at work." This shit, whatever, and just trust it. Whatever fucking's gonna happen here is gonna be delicious. - Uh-huh. - So you fully surrender. - Yes. - Do you, are you sometimes shocked by what you do? - I'll be honest, there are times where I don't know that things would go, I have been shocked because I feel like you give yourself over and you don't know exactly, I'm not saying it's gotta be a certain way. I feel like you gotta get away of saying, "Oh, it's gotta be amazing, it's gotta be beautiful." I gotta cry. I don't fucking know, it's always surprising. What you wanna know is you wanna see that moment behind your eyes when people are making decisions or feelings, something, and then letting it being as honest as possible. That's all I can say. And you put you to get out of the way and not judge what the fuck you're doing. - My friend who's a really good director and I didn't have a ton of acting experience and I was like really nervous to do a show because I was like, I don't know how to do it. And he told me, like after he saw one thing of me and it changed everything from me, he said, you're thinking about what your line's gonna be and you're not listening to what the person's saying. And he said, you have to, it doesn't even matter if you know your line. He said, just listen to what that person's saying and react off what that person is saying. And then your line is gonna come. - Because that's real light. That's exactly what we do, right? 'Cause you think about that. You're not setting up. - No, I'm not. - And you're in the Prov King. I could, the conversation can go anywhere. I can do that. - Right. - Well, you're writing your own thing. It's definitely. - Even if I was just hired as an actor for hire and serving Steven Spielberg in his vision, I think, well, I don't think it's, it's not something that can definitely happen naturally. I just wonder how one improved the skills that required to not worry about your skill set. - I think, you know what I'm saying? - I think there's an answer in that question. I think you really do have to let's say, people are always just like, "Oh my God, how was it working with Spielberg?" I'm like, "It was great." But like, what did you learn? Whatever, I'm like, "Learn, you learn all the time. "Learn from everybody." But I'm not walking in and being like, "Oh my God, this is Spielberg, "the greatest fucking director ever." I'm walking in as an actor and in service. I have questions. I'm gonna figure shit out. I'm gonna figure shit out together. And we're gonna be raw and we're gonna make mistakes. We're gonna make bad choices because we have to. You can't think about, you gotta liberate yourself from all that shit. And I think maybe that's what we're talking about. This will wrap this shit up. You don't wanna be so self-conscious that you get in your own way. I'm not expressing and trying things out and figuring things out. I tell every director I work with, I'm like, the first three takes, maybe garbage. I'm telling you that. I'm okay with that though. I don't need to be like having a fine performance. Alrighty, 'cause I'm figuring shit out and figuring out your camera moves and what the fuck this prop is and what the fuck are they saying? And great, getting it all together. So I'm like, even to script supervisors, they'll come up and like, "Oh, Coleman, the line is." I'm like, not yet. Trust me, I'm in the kitchen working. And I've liberated myself, which is a rare fucking thing in this industry 'cause everyone wants to finish product very quickly. And so it limits you. So for me, I don't do that. 'Cause I'm like, "I'm okay with looking like a fool." I'm okay looking like I walked in and you're like, "Oh fuck, we hired Coleman." He's terrible. He's terrible right now. Coleman knows he's terrible right now, but Coleman, trust me, he's gonna get to a good place. But we gotta liberate ourselves. So I tell you that, you gotta liberate yourself. You need to go to like, Esselen or something. - What's that? - Esselen is a place. - It's there, right? - For the, huh? - Is it big stuff? - Yeah, it's big stuff. - Actors are gonna fix my brain. - No, just to like, you gotta want to be naked in the woods as you should. - You gotta let go. - Basically, right? - Yeah. - Yeah. - Will you act like you have to leave 'cause they just tell this to you. - I gotta leave. - Okay, I have to act like I have to leave. - Oh man. - But first of all, I feel like I can talk to you guys for a thousand fucking hours. - Wait, for three seconds, 'cause I told her this and she doesn't know. Tell us how you met your husband in 50 seconds. - In 50 seconds, picture it. 2005, it was an analog time. I'm walking down the street and Berkeley, California. I see this beautiful face. We see each other, lock eyes, never speak. I'm like, who the fuck is this? Three days later, I'm on Craigslist, trying to buy a used computer. I couldn't stop thinking about this interaction. Like, what if I placed one of the Craigslist misconceptions? And you know, saw you in the age range, you were wearing a red hat. I was like, maybe I'll write one of those. I look on page two, third from the top. It says, "Sorry, I saw the Walgreens Berkeley. "It was fucking me." He described me and my foe hawk get hair and hair and lip piercing. We met up three days later. I told him I loved him on our first date. So I love you, and you're gonna change my life. And that fit is the way that story goes. - I love that. - I'm gonna go for 21 years. - Oh my God. - You said I love you back on the first date. - I'm sorry, but that's a lot, but I respected your saying. - No, he was actually silent. He felt it, but he, 'cause I thought he was asleep. I said, "I love you," and I said, "Oh my God." - My wife did that to me two times in her sleep. - Wow. - Yeah, she said, "I love you while she was sleeping." - Shut up. - She said it at, like, very early in our relationship. She goes, "She moved on." And she was like, "I love you." - That was her stuff. - What did you feel? - I went, like, this, I went. I went, I went, I went. And she just grabbed her back. But no, I wrapped her back 'cause she didn't know she wasn't conscious. And then one time, she was coming out of surgery. She was coming out of surgery the second time. She said, "I love you." To me, and she goes, "She goes, I love you." And then, and then, and then she didn't-- - Did you hand through that again? - No, she didn't. She didn't notice it, so I didn't say it. And then finally, I'll just tell you this right. I'm prepping, I'm gonna say I love you to her, 'cause we had a beautiful trip in New York, and I said, "This gonna be my perfect time to say I love you." It's the night I'm saying, "I love you." We're in bed. And she's like, she somehow knows I'm gonna say it. And she keeps trying to beat me to it. And I just go, "Would you just shut up and let me say it right now?" And I was like, "I love you." And then, we were like, "Yeah, I sat on it." So, would you just-- - You didn't whisper to anything? - No, I said, "Well, she was messing it up." And I said, "Just shut up for two seconds and let me say it." And I looked her in the face and I said, and I grabbed her face and I said, "I love you." And then-- - People put too much pressure on it. Say it when you want to say it. - When did you say it, and we'll wrap this up? - Well, I was popping a pimple on his back. - Wow, okay. - Any, any, remember you said, I-- - No, I had plans to say it that day. You know me, I'm a planner, I thought it through. - I love these stories. - Yeah. - So, you were planning to say it. - I was planning to say it that day. First off, it was like late. It was like six months in. I get, to me, saying I love you to the person in my mind, I'm like, I'm gonna marry whoever I end up saying that to at this stage of my life, which is overthinking it. But it's still, I take it seriously. - I would say, like, on the seven days. - I don't fall, I said, day one. - Yeah. - I love that. And anyways, I was gonna say it, and then we were in, I mean, this is, I got not, it's graphic, but not necessarily. We were in the shower, and I was gonna say it. Like, I was about to say it. And then she said, like, wait, there's a new one on your back. - So before he was on, I'm acting. - I had such bad acting on my back. - Okay. - And she would talk. - It was like this big. - It was tough. - It was just popping my pimple on the thing. I can't say this shit right now. - That's an ultimate act of love right there. - And the story is still tied. - 'Cause you're like, yo, she pops to her back of me? - Yeah. - No, I knew it. I wanted to say it. - And then you said it as I was leaving, and then you said-- - Did you say it too? Do you say I love you too? - Yeah, of course. As he said it, you went actually, Kristen, you said it to me first. - Yeah, it's basically, like, early in our relationship. - Oh, yeah. - I got a haircut, and I was like, tender of self-hands. I said, what do you think? She said, I love it. I love you. Like, I can't wait to see you. - The attack. - That's the first thing. - What's the attack? - I love you. Like, did you heart it or something? What did you do? - I think he took a screen grab and like, sent it to us. Everyone of my friends and said, what do I say to this? - I spent a lot of time turning over every stone to be like, how do I, it's taken too long. How do I get to the boyfriend girlfriend label? - Yeah, what are we? - I thought I will say to Dave, also terrible timing. It was like 3 a.m., he was like his eyes were closing. - He's just like, small, sweet. - And I said, hey, Dave, if people ask if you have a girlfriend, what do you say? - I love that hit, the question, it's great. - And he panicked. - How did I do? - My husband asked me out when we were at a movie theater. We always laughed about that now because he was like, suddenly, he was, this. Now, like, I know I loved him already, Dave won. But we're sitting there watching, I don't even look for a movie or watching something, he turns me, he's like, so what are we? Like, what do you, what do that mean? - Yeah. - We're obviously together, but I don't, I don't know what to mean. - Like exclusive? - You know what I do now that I made sure to, I think it's important for all of us to make sure that we always know that like, you're my husband, but you're also like, I'm like, you're my boyfriend. - I love you. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was just like, I like my boyfriend girlfriend. - Yeah, I look like my boyfriend. - No, I'm just like, I tell her, I'll tell her sometimes, I'll just call her up and I'll say, I want to let you know you're the sexiest woman of life. - Oh. - And then she's like, she's like, oh yeah. - It's happening around here, you know what I mean? 'Cause it makes you feel good, true, you got me, true. - But also, I feel like you have to do that shit daily, too. Of course, it can't go away, you got me. - Oh my god, I tell her she's the most beautiful girl in the world every day. - I tell you that. - I never give too many compliments. You're very good at it. I use to pay number two. - Okay, come on out, guys, come on out, come on out. - I love this, I can't believe I'm talking to you guys in that. - Isn't it beautiful? (upbeat music) - This episode is brought to you by Domino. - Thank you, Domino.