The Colman Domingo Episode

♪ ♪ Coleman. ♪ ♪ Domingo. ♪ Coleman Domingo ♪ ♪ And Coleman Domingo ♪ ♪ He is a soldier ♪ That's good. ♪ ♪ Coleman, Coleman, Coleman. What do you think he's going to be wearing? Sorry. Singlet. Singlet? Yeah. He is a fashionista, isn't he? He's, like, good with fashion. How's that dominoes? I'm starved. I see you have the single domino. Yeah. I like to rip it up into little slices. Oh. I'm going to have one. Oh. All right. And so, this slice sauce. Unbelievable. I just love the format, because I wouldn't want pineapple, even though all of a sudden, there's respect to the pineapple-ers out there. But I love plain cheese, and I love that I can have my own personal pizza without dealing with other people. I love that you can have your own personal pizza without messing up what I want to put on my pizza, which is pineapple. Yeah. Do you think his name is Coleman? I don't know. But I know this thing is called domino, and not dominoes. You know why? It's shaped like a domino. No, because I'm a single domino, and I can get whatever I want on my pizza. Why are you personifying yourself as the domino? I'm just a single man eating a domino, and you can be a single man eating a domino. Well, you can be a man. We're married men. Singular domino. Yeah, you like roni. We don't like roni. Yeah, I understand. Sometimes I like roni. You do? But sometimes I. Every time I like pineapple, and we never get to get it, because Dave is, you know, he has issues with fruit. Chuck, you know what I love? What? I have to cook. Get to the point. Thanksgiving for people. I think I got 60 people to cook for. I'm really. Are we one of them? No. You guys are never here on Thanksgiving. I know. I just wanted to see if you wanted us there. Keep going. You don't like to commit. Keep going. Plans. We have commitments. I'm thinking about. Committing plans. Maybe. We committed, yeah. giving each person a personal pie. Mmm. That's sweet. as their meal. Oh, for Thanksgiving, you're saying handing out 30 dominoes? Yep. Gravy. Gravy, too. The slice sauce is gravy? Yep. I like that, because it feels more individualized. It feels good, right? Which is what you want on Thanksgiving, even though Thanksgiving is about giving thanks to everything. When you're there with those other 59 people and we're not there, do you feel like you're missing something? Always. Because we're not there. Yeah, I wish I was always with you guys. That's sweet. Do you wish that you could always have whatever you wanted on your pizza? Because you can with a domino. I do, Munchie. I wish I could always have whatever I wanted all the time in life. Does everyone wish that? Does Coleman wish that? I wonder. We should ask him. Hello, Lou. Why don't you ask him for yourself? Hi! Speaking of men. Speaking of the man. Speaking of the man. What's up, Lou? The man. Hold on. Hold on. You can become a different human being. I'm like, "You shut the fuck up, Scorsese." Were you stylish when you were, like, a loser? Why are you trying to kill me today? Like an evil prince in a Disney movie. And then I went, I went like. Annie. No. Annie. Annie. Annie. Annie. No. No. See, all right, now we can go. You saw the lip? Yeah, that's kind of gross. I mean, what? How are you? How are you? Hi, Kristen. So good to see you, Kristen. This is my wife, Kristen. You have a good hug. I go for the embrace. Yeah. Hey, you're pretty tall. But that's also a very Philly thing. We like to embrace people. Yeah. You're Philly? Born and raised. Guess who else is Philly? What, Will Smith? Me. You? Wait, what? Oh, really? Yeah. Where? A suburb. A suburb. Suburb. In Cheltenham. That's not even a Philly thing. Where did that come from? A suburb? It's a suburb. A suburb? It is a suburb of Philadelphia. Yeah. I know where the Cheltenham Mall is. Well, that's my mall. Exactly. Actually, I more often would go to the Willow Grove Mall. Willow Grove Mall was the best mall. Yeah. Wait, where in Philly did you grow up? West Philly. Born and raised. Seriously, no, really. I went to high school with Will. You did? I did. No, you didn't. Yes, I did. Same time? All right. Same time. We were never friends. Yeah. I was like, he was the cool kid and I was like the nerd. Our rivalry? I was trying not to get beat up the whole time. Wait, was he considered cool? Yeah, he was. Because he was a rapper. No, no. But was he famous yet already? Yes. He was famous especially in West Philly because he and Jazzy Jeff, they would go and perform at the Wynn Ballroom all the time. What year was this? This was, let's picture it. This was about 1980. '40s. '42. No, it was 1980. When the fuck was I in high school? 1983, '42? Yeah. Oh. '43 through '87, yeah. You look young. And you are young. You guys are like, you're really old. How old are you? I'm 56. Wow. Okay. First of all, before, fuck Will Smith, not fuck Will Smith, but like, fuck talking about that right now. Tell us how to look like you. Tell us. I truly thought you were our age. I thought you were 38. Wow, that's good. I swear to God. Everybody thinks I'm in my 30s. So how do we look like you? What do you do? Are you eating like? I feel like I'm eating the same thing. Are you eating like salmon sperm and rubbing it on your face? Like what's happening? No, I think, honestly, I don't do much, but like try to like live well and be happy. That sounds crazy, but like, and maybe I hydrate. I drink a lot of water. Okay. Alcohol? Yeah, I do drink alcohol. Help you live better. You do drugs? Don't do drugs. Okay. I think maybe that's it. I don't do drugs. I did some in my 20s. Do you eat healthy? I do. But listen, but let me say, you put like a piece of pie here or something, I will eat it. Do you work out a lot? I do about maybe four or five days a week, but I do like, I'm, but like low, like low impact. Low stakes. Low stakes. I'm just like, people are always just like, trainers come over. They want to train me. I'm like, nah, I don't want all that. Yeah. I'm just trying to like stay healthy and be fit. Okay. And not fall apart. Yeah. That's it. Especially when you get to like 56 now, you're not trying to just make sure everything works. Joints work out. Yeah. Because anybody who's over their 50s. That looks like good mobility to me. You start to feel what? You start to feel some angst? You feel everything. Really? He's falling apart at 38. 38? You? Well, I'm totally kidding. I think you look young. First off, I never wear these glasses. You're a young spirit. The glasses age you, FYI. Wait, when did you start wearing glasses? You just wore them for me? Yeah. I literally just wore them for you. I swear to God. Wait, take them off. Take them off. Take them off. You wore them to look cool? I wore them because I know he's like a fashionable man. But hold on. But hold on. Wait. But put them on. Put them on. That's sweet. But wait, did you literally wear them as a fashion statement for him? Yes. I think that's sweet. I think this is the first one of these I've ever worn these. And I'm proud of you for that. They look good. Obviously, my eyes went through a lot yesterday, and they were really dry, and they needed a break. Okay. Were you conscious of your outfit today for him? 100%. I think you did a good job. This is actually pretty. You're killing it. So you chose, you were like, "I'm going to wear these cool, sporty shorts." But I oftentimes wear sporty shorts like this. I've never seen those shorts before. Sorry. Why did you get those shorts? These are just a better version of my. Did you buy them for this? So I look young, right? You look very young. 38? Yeah. Okay. I'm crashing. I'm like, "I've got you guys by almost 20 years." What was the best 10-year era of your life, 10 to 20, 20 to 30, so on and so forth? I'll be very honest. I think this is the best time. Wow. I hear that about the time. That's what my mom says. Yeah. Wow, I'm as old as your mom. No, no, no. No, no, no. My mom's much older than you. She said her favorite era was. Her favorite era is right now, and she's in her 70s. But she said her favorite ones were 50s, 60s, and now 70s. Let me give you something. Do you want anything to drink? Water? Sure. Water, whatever you got. Why do you think you're 50s? Let me tell you why. I think that when you. Listen, I was a very nerdy, not-so-cool kid, or teenager, or 20-something. How could you not be cool? I wasn't. Listen, I think you grow into all this stuff when you know yourself. But literally, I thought. I remember I had this thought clearly when I was 15 and awkward and weird. I thought, "I'm going to be better when I'm 40," because I felt like 40-year-olds had it more together. I was looking at my parents. I'm like, "They're cool." They did have cool parents. But I literally thought that was going to be best for me. So when I got in my 40s, I felt really good and a bit more comfortable. But then, something about when I turned 50, and it is that part where you're like, "Hey, you are a. " What do they call it? They say, "You are a storyteller for a long time," and then you move into your truth-telling season. Ooh. And when you're a truth-teller, you don't have time to tell stories. You say, "Hey, do you want to go there?" And you're like, "No." I like that. There's no qualifier. Like, "No, but. " Or making sure your feelings are okay. You're more like, "No." Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. "I'm good." Yeah, yeah, yeah. These days, I'm like, when I want to leave somewhere, it's like, "I'm leaving. All right. See you guys." Yeah. It's more efficient. Oh, my God. Pullman, stay. Stay. I'm like, "No. I got to go." Yeah. You got to go. It's more confident. My wife is more in that era than any human being in her life. Has she always been in the era? She will. I wish I had the same ability she had. Like, we could be at a dinner party at our own house. She is good at that. And she's just like, "All right. I'm just going to go up to the room for a little bit." And that. For a little bit means that's it. It depends. Sometimes it means a little. She has the ability also, when she's done with something, she can just be like, "I'm going to leave." Yeah. And it can be in a second. I don't have that. But she knows herself. Yeah. She does. I think. But you didn't do this before you were. No. I don't think. I was too much of a people pleaser. Yeah. Yeah, me too. And then I'm like. I think. She's teaching me. She's teaching me. What's your son? Oh. Oh. Pisces. Pisces. I love that we both ask that at the same time. Oh, Swagatarius. Oh, Swagatarius. It's November. November. Swagatarius? You believe in all that shit? I do. Okay. What's your sign? Virgo? But I'm at the cusp of Virgo and the next thing. Whatever that is. You were just saying that you read something? I read this thing because this might make you believe more in it. Or maybe I thought of it. No, I think I read it. I'm not sure. I'm not quite sure where this came from. He's shocked and horrified you read something. She reads. She reads. What did I tell you about reading them books? What did I tell you about that? I read that, like, if the moon, because everyone's like, is this real? But think about the power the moon has to move the entire ocean. Yeah, it's true. Think about a man walking. What's your sign? Pisces. Nothing makes sense. We're born a week apart. Really? Yeah. A man walking? That's crazy. A man walking. You both have curly hair, too. I know. Gravity. Like, the specifics of everything are so highly specific that everything is possible. You know what I mean? I don't know how you, I don't get the man walking part. I want to say, you believe in that shit? Like, that sounds crazy. But I think pretty much everything that's happening seems crazy. We have no answers for anything, so I can't outright be like, that's crazy, because there's crazy. Because everything's crazy. Exactly. But also, what I like about that, just about horoscopes, and I think maybe this is my sensibility about most things. Is you kind of got to believe in something. Yeah. Yeah. Just something. You could also believe in not believing in something. Yeah, but you've got to be very committed to that. Yeah. Right? Yeah. I believe in nothing. But you've got to double down on that shit every fucking day. Yeah. I believe in a lot of things. I believe in two things. Being good. Okay. And for some reason, goodness, like, holds well. So, like, karmic energy? Yes. I don't know. I just believe. I like this man. I believe in being good. That's good. Okay. And then the other thing is, I believe in being good. Because I believe that I have no idea what's happening. Yeah. And that's kind of this, maybe I'm being simple-minded. But do you think that a lot of people believe in being good right now? I don't know. Like, what is it? Because it doesn't, it feels like there's almost a cost in being good. I think people have different definitions of what good is. And they believe that they're. And they move the goalposts when it's convenient. Yeah. Yeah. I think humanity, at large, believes in the good of humanity. I think if you polled humanity, do you believe in it? I agree. Yeah. But I wonder what the percent is. Is it 55, 45? I think there's a lot. There's a lot of greed, though. Yeah. I think the thing is, what has happened is that because there's always, right now, everything is commodified. It's all about money. Yeah. And money has made people think that's more important. Yeah. And they'll fuck over anybody or whatever to get that thing. Or to have, like, this thing that passes, like, fame or something. Like, you know, this shit that you're like, what really fucking matters? Social media has messed us up. I really do think so, too. I think so. Yeah. Hey, in high school. I was just about to get back. Must have been the coolest guy of all time. I can't picture a more, like, he defined my definition of cool, the Fresh Prince. So, was Summertime's not out yet? Summertime's not out yet. He's not even on Fresh Prince of Bel-Air yet. Right before that. But he was, like, but you said he was a rapper. A local rapper. Let him tell us. No, he was a local rapper. And, like, he and Jazzy Jeff, they would do shows at the Wim Ballroom. And all the cool kids went. I didn't go because I wasn't a cool kid. I heard about it. You know, I was too busy, like, you know, doing school. But, like, were people, was he, like, the most popular kid in high school? In high school, no question. He was. Yeah. Wow. That's true. He really was. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, he was, like, but also, I think, listen, I went to a high school that was, like, we either had kids who came in on the bus, which was me, and we had kids, like, you know, wealthy kids or middle class kids that came in with their parents' BMW. I think he was on that side. Yeah. And so, he was very much, like, you know, he was just himself, charismatic, wonderful. He went out with my friend, my friend Gina Cooper. When you see Will, have you ever seen him at, like, events or anything? The last interaction I had with him was when I was working at El Torito restaurant in Philadelphia as a waiter. Wow. And I waited. This is after he became very successful. Yeah. Moved to L.A., came back, and he had a big table with a bunch of friends and stuff like that. Yeah. And I come out, I'm like, hi, what can I get you? Would you like the, you know, the burrito special? Did he say he remembered you or no? No, he looked at me like, like, I looked somewhat familiar. Yeah. Again, I was, like, a nerdy kid who was really good friends with his girlfriend, Gina. Okay, okay. So, he looked at me, and I'm like, Will, we went to high school together. He's like, oh, man, we did, hey. I'm like, hey, how you doing? That's cute. And we hugged, and that was it. I haven't seen. Did anyone else go to your school? The weirdest thing is, throughout our careers now. Yeah. I've never run into him. That's so bizarre. That's wild. I feel like that's rare. It's really rare and weird. I thought it was going to be so cool. Because we work with the same people. I mean, I'm sure we'll see each other at some point. And, you know, there'll be warmth and a shared history from Philadelphia. You guys are just, you're busy guys. Yeah. When I saw, I don't even want to say it. Well, you got to say it. You got to say it. You got to talk about it. You got to start it, and then you just close the door. No, no, no. I'll talk about it later. What is it, Benny? No, I'll talk about it. No, Benny, let's talk about it now. Let's open it up. Open up, Benny. Open up. Just some of, when I told my mom you were coming on, you're truly one of my favorite, like, actors. Like, you can become, like, a different human being. And it's. Thank you, man. It's great. I was going to start. That's pretty sweet. I was going to start talking about all your stuff, and I was like, I was like. I think that's a great, that's such a nice compliment. The funny thing is, I do realize, well, first of all, thanks for the compliment, and I think that the funny thing is, I got this all, I was in Europe this week, and I just kept getting this thing, and it's funny to me. I know now the reason why, and I'm not offended ever, when they're like, oh, my God, no, I know you. What have you been in? I'm like, I'm not going to do that with you, but. Yeah, yeah. It puts you in such an awkward position to be like, here's all the things I did. Didn't watch that. Don't like that. No, I don't watch that genre. So it's a whole thing. Yeah. So I was like, so usually now I'm just like, you know what? I just have that face, but I keep changing. My face keeps changing, but you'll figure it out at some point. I do, because I think that's the truth. You think your face is changing? I think my face changes. I mean, I can tell. I'm really objective. You can tell your own face? I can tell my own face, but I can tell that I look, let's say, I can look different in everything. Like your face gets fatter? Yeah. Me too, me too. I look older. I look younger. I think when I come in the room, people are like, oh, you're actually taller, or you're actually younger. Because I know, because I'm like, yeah, whatever you saw me in last, I transform everything. So you fully transform, like you transform your body. I gain weight, I change my body. I just have to know one thing, though. So, because I've heard so many rumors about it, and I wasn't sure if it was true. When you did Sing Sing, were a lot of the actors actually in jail? All the actors were formerly incarcerated. So they, some had just gotten out maybe a month before. It was one of my favorite movies. It was the best movie of that year. Thank you. I had a film called Sing Sing. Yeah, I've heard, I know. It's unbelievable. Yeah. And, but most of, 95% of my castmates were formerly incarcerated men who went through this program called RTA, Rehabilitation for the Arts, where they learn acting skills and put on plays and stuff like that. So I, I developed this film about them and their stories. Wow. And then like, we just did it in a very small way. So you're telling me the main other guy. He was in prison for like seven years. Like 17 years. First of all, he's like, he needs to be like, he's like an, he's like an Oscar level actor. Yeah. He's unbelievable. So while, so while he was in prison, he was like learning how to act and do all these things. And then. And it was, it was changing their lives. Oh, I mean. It was giving them a different, a deeper sense of empathy. That's great. A purpose. Team building skills. What an incredible thing to give back. It's a great program. And to help, and to help them. I think, you know, I think the, the way sort of it was sort of laid out was their play. They were, we had them play versions of themselves. Yeah. When they were incarcerated. Oh, wow. So they were able to tap into something, some real experiences, whether it's their own or things that they've seen. Yeah. And keep it in that container. But it really was just about like, honestly, I feel like we went, I can go through the whole thing of what we did, but it really does become like, Shakespeare always said that the strongest bond was the fraternal bond, the bond of brotherhood. Oh, yeah. Sure. They said that's the strongest one. And so for us, we were making this story about these two guys who you don't think have anything in common. They eventually meet, they're in prison and they need to help each other. Yeah. They need to help each other to move, move to the next level of like, sort of, I don't know, life, experience, gratitude, whatever. And they do that with each other. So it really is about, ultimately for me, it's like, it's a film about brotherhood. It's not about prison. It's not about like anything like that. It's about like, these two guys are in this container called a prison. And now they're like, they're both up for parole and they're trying to help each other. It's so good. I make, I want to cry right now. What is that? It's just trash litter. That is me. That was me. Are you just playing with the trash? I cut the wick of the candles. Oh. I wanted it to stop. They smell good for you. I'm obsessed with these. Sorry to sidebar myself. They look so cute. I keep looking at these and these are. I don't know if they smell. I'm just scared to light them because they're so pretty. They're so pretty. They are so cute. I got an acting question. Yeah. Would you wear a fat suit or gain the weight? Both. At the same time? I feel like I would do whatever I need to do healthy. Yeah. To gain the weight. But some support. Like, I played Joe Jackson in some Michael Jackson films. Yeah. I saw it when that thing came out. Nobody knows my face. Insane. Have you? It's the biggest transfer. People are saying, I saw that and I didn't realize. I didn't realize it was you. You know, I read a thing. The first tweet I read, it had like 10,000 retweets. And it just said, can you say Oscars? That's what it said. That's right. That's what it said. Because it's like the prosthetics. It just really, really helps. How many hours a day in the chair? It started at three. Then we got it down to 90 minutes. Wow. I had a great team. Yeah, great team. That's a lot of hours. Hey, Coleman. Two questions. Yes. Does anyone ever call you Cole? They do. Only a few people. Then, hey, Cole, what's up? One of my best friends, Sean San Jose, he calls me Cole. What's up, Cole? Can I call you Cole? Sure. No, not yet. I didn't like your reaction. But Cole is, I don't know why, but I don't really respond to it. Jay was my nickname growing up for Jason, my middle name. Oh, Jay. So a lot of people call me Jay. Jay, I need your help with something. What's your name? We are due a vacation. Everything that we, we think we have an idea and then like. We're so particular. Well, I'm glad you came to me. Yeah. We really talked. We're like, I bet you he knows. Yeah, let's sit on the couch. Let's move to the couch. You know why? I am actually. Mr. Vacation. Going on vacation. Johnny Vacation. Jay Vacation. I don't allow anyone else to plan our vacations. I plan everything. Really? I'm in the hotel. - Yeah, he doesn't even know how I plan. - Sit right there, you can. - I would say, have you been to Tokyo? - Oh my God, let's talk about parameters right now. - Is it warm there in March? - There's specifics to what the trip we're talking about. - Okay, give me this one. I'm your travel agent, let me know what you want. - Okay, we wanna go for four nights. - Four nights. - Four nights. - It's short. - Four nights is short, so that means no long trip. We're not sending you to Thailand. - To Tokyo. - Yeah, we're thinking somewhere warm and beautiful and villa-y and vacation-y. - Oh, they like, you have to remember, he wants the all-inclusive, he wants the wristband gets him everything. - I wanna think a little. And I want wood. - No thoughts, just instinct. - Wood-colored walls. - A wristband. - I don't want a wristband. - Like, all-inclusive. - Now can I ask you, do you want it super private? Do you want it adults only? - I don't care about adults only. - You don't give a shit about kids? - I don't care about the private thing, like, in the room. I don't care about any fame capacity. I just care about, like, having space to operate as a man. - To operate as a man. So you must bring your penis to it. - Yeah, he does bring his penis. - It should have a little bit of a romantic element to it, in my opinion. - 'Cause I'll be going. - I got it, I got it. Now. Well, two places. - Yeah, we're limited. - For four days, Todos Santos. - Where's that? - Where's that? - That's right below Cabo. So it's Cabo and it's north. You fly to Cabo and the car will pick you up. There's a place called Paradero Hotels. - I already like it. - Paradero Hotels is fantastic because you fly to Cabo, which is, you know, everybody goes to Cabo. But then the car will take you 45 minutes more north, up the coast, and then into what looks like a beautiful sort of farming area, private. It's a beautiful, beautiful hotel where everything's there. Yoga, swimming, whatever, it's beautiful. And your room is like, it's like architectural brutalist. Oh, I'm out. - Brutalist. - I hate brutalism. - Hold on, hold on. - But it's interesting. It's interesting, it's interesting. - Okay, but hold on. - Keep going. - The exterior. It just makes you feel like it's fortified. - Yeah. - But then outside, but then you-- - I like fortification. - Are you talking steel? - I'm talking like, you know, concrete. - Yeah, concrete. - Cement. - Flaps. - But then when you look outside, you see farms. And it's wind and it's outdoor showers. - I like that. - I love farmland. - And then there's, what do you call it, hammocks. - What's your number two for him? - Okay, the other place I was gonna tell you was called Naviva, which was north of Punta Mita, which is-- - Oh, yeah. - Yeah, north of it. - Anything near the Florida Keys? - Yeah, what if we were talking domestic? 'Cause also, here's another thing. We wanna be able to potentially, maybe I shouldn't say this, travel with weed. - Oh, God. - Why don't you just go to the Caribbean? - Why are you trying to kill me today? As you're gonna know me, you see I'm having massive strokes over here every time you bring up Orlando. - Orlando, kind of Epcot. Epcot, we can go to a lot of places. We got one. - How am I just killing you right now? Domino's created the domino, and now we're here. Oh, my God, pepperoni? I kid you not. But you're aware you can customize your thing exactly how you wanna go. I can do up to three toppings, and you can choose your own sauce. You don't have to compromise. You can choose your own topping. Like, you could have a Philly steak. She could have pineapple. I could have garlic parmigiano sauce, or if I'm feeling spicy, I could have some honey barbecue. - I never compromise. - You don't, that's why these are good for you. - Whether you're a cheese person, a pineapple person, or something totally different, the domino lets you make it your own. - You should probably compromise in your life. - Not with the domino. Let's talk about Olipop. - I would love to. - I'm gonna have this pomegranate sparkle. - Ooh. - Limited edition holiday flavor. - First time tasting it? Incredible. - This is unbelievable. - Is it? - Olipop does really knock it out of the park. And this is fun 'cause it's-- - The limited edition holiday one, and I like it a little. - Holiday drink. - Can we talk about this Yeti on the cover? - What is a Yeti? - This-- - I know, but what-- - It's a white beast. - Oh yeah. - It's got-- - Six grams of fiber. - Mochi, if you drink four or five of these a day, you'll have all the fiber you need. - I love-- - You'll be a baddie for fiber. - I love fiber, and I like what it does to my body. - You gonna get the fiber? You're getting the fiber. And I'm gonna get a limited amount of sugar. Four grams only. Buy any two cans of Olipop in store, and they'll pay you back for one. Any flavor, any retailer, go to drinkolipop.com/fks. - You guys know I'm taking a shopping trip on Whatnot. - What's Whatnot? - Are you serious right now? - Dad, dad-- - Chuck, it's-- We got efish_co. Look at him right now. You see this? - You guys see this? - This is a live auction right now. You like crab legs? - Oh, live auction. - I do, I do. - Okay, I love crab legs. You know what else I like? I like-- - Swordfish. - I also like-- - Black cod. - But I also like salmon. This guy is amazing. You know he actually supplies to Jose Andres? - Chef Jose Andres. - I gotta stay on this live, I gotta stay locked in. You might have to take the rest of the thing. - Do your thing on Whatnot. - So on Whatnot you can get other stuff too, like clothing, right, and jewelry if I wanted. - Antiques maybe, I assume so, yes. - Yeah, it's got a lot of other stuff, right? - Got it, hope you guys like crab legs. - I like to go hard on vacations. Three days, balls to the wall, drink, be free, eat whatever I want, feel not guilty, go home. - That's me. I think three to pushing to four is good. But three, I can get a lot done. - Me too, and I wanna really give it my all. - Literally, my husband knows this too. We get off the plane, we get into the hotel, I'm like, okay, 'cause I like to organize first. I usually like to unpack my bags immediately. - Are you an unpacker? - I'm an unpacker. - I'm an unpacker too. - I never unpack once. - What? - I live out of the bag. - No! - No, I need to see that. - She unpacks me because she can't see. - I need to see the outfit. - I need to see, I need to lay things out, I need to know what's out there. - Don't you have anxiety that you'll forget one thing? Like if you take everything out, what if you then put it somewhere in the back corner and you didn't see it, and then you're just setting yourself up? - I have a full suite. - Yeah, me too. - Okay. - Full suite. - You also can't waste a good outfit on the wrong meal. - Yeah. - Do you take pictures of what you're wearing beforehand? - No, but I do like to just see the lay of the land, get that done, and then I'm like, yo, quick freshen up and let's go hit the streets. - Do you go and get like a cool lunch with like a nice drink and then wander? Or do you have a plan? - No, I just wander first and see what takes me. Literally, the best times I've had meals, and why did I just hit you with this? - Hit her. - I like that. - That's sweet. - The best times. - The best. - It is. It's a little-- - That's sweet. That's a sweet-- - He's doing a baguette. - You're connected. - We're friends now. - I like the way you travel. - My favorite Paris meals are when you go pick stuff up at the local cheese shop, the local bakery, and then you go eat it in a park. It's my favorite meals I've ever had. - Yeah. - One of my favorite museums in the world is there, the Little Picasso Museum. Have you been? - No, I've never been there. - I hate museums. - I always feel like it's too much pressure to go to a museum. I feel like you shouldn't, it shouldn't be pressure. You should be like, if you feel like it. - What I can tell you is I have been to museums over my life ad nauseam. - And you're never happy with it. - Every time I go into it saying, well, I don't like museums, but-- - You're the worst to go to a museum with. - And then I think maybe this one will be a museum that I like. I have never liked a museum. - But hold on, wait, first of all, you have this design home and everything, so is there any element of something, of an artist or something you want to see or like-- - I also probably haven't been to the best museums. - Have you been to Uffizi? - No. I don't know. - What museums have you been to? Like the Cleveland Modern? - I've been to-- - The Philadelphia-- - The Philadelphia Art Museum? - Hey, Philly! The Philadelphia Art Museum is incredible. - But you don't stop and look at stuff. He does a speed walk through. He just walks right through. - I'm there for hours. - Was it in France where we, the sarcophaguses of the-- - No, we went to the catacombs in Sicily, which I wanted to spend time-- - You're like, it's so dirty. - Oh my God, what am I gonna do? Look at 355 of the same looking skeletons over and over again? - And I was anxious 'cause he was just speed walking and I felt like he had to kind of stop and like connect with the-- - Oh my God, what about a jerk? - I think it's so-- - What about-- - Let me just finish. I think it is so bizarre, I don't know if it's just me, for us to walk around this thing, look at every individual, literal old dead person. To me, I'm like-- - No, they've been mummified. - I feel bad for the dead people when I'm in a catacomb. I feel like-- - 'Cause they didn't expect this. - And I just feel like there's a-- - Well, I thought they paid for it. - I don't know why, but I feel like-- - No, they were dead. - I feel like because everyone knows that they are looking at what was a human, everyone internally feels this burning desire to prove that they are a good person and really overlook the human. They stand and I'm thinking, what more is, but maybe I'm just-- - As a person who was there, I was trying to connect with this, see what I could connect with. I was trying to think, who was this person? What were they doing? - Yeah, I understand. - What was their life? - And maybe I was scared to do that. - Is this a French fry thing? What is this? - Popcorn. - That's popcorn. - It's popcorn. - Oh, baguette for parrots that I love. - I don't know why I didn't get that. - French fries? What type of French fries? - A popcorn with legs, so. Wait, what are these for? - They're just cute to hold on to. - You don't have stuffed animals? - I realize now I probably need this 'cause I have a very, our stuff is just like, look like, you know, it's nice. - Well, we lean a little more childish. - I feel like you need that 'cause suddenly I'm like, oh, maybe I need this when I'm sitting around. - I mean, I love that ball. - Do you have one of those houses where you don't want to sit down in certain rooms? - No, our house is all, it's a newer house for us. We've had this house for two years. It's very design, lovely. It's getting warmer. I'm making it warmer now. - Did you design it? Did you design it yourself? - Yeah, I do all, yeah, I do the interior design. - It's my favorite. - What is your aesthetic in your house? What is your aesthetic? - In this house? - Imperialism. - No, in this house, the way we did, it feels like you're at a resort. It feels like you're on vacation. - Yeah, I love that. - It's like little French, Italian, Spanish, so it feels like you're somewhere old that's like very cozy still, and all the rooms, and it's like-- - But it's like, you have some modern touches that you're good at. - Yeah, and it's like, the walls are like lime wash, so it's like, so it looks like it's like falling apart. - It's pretty distinct. I've never been to a home like it, ever. - Really? - Yeah. - I'm overwhelmed with art, and you have really good art, obviously, everywhere. - I have a lot of art. - But art really changed. Do you have a lot of art? - How do you pull the trigger on an art piece? spend money on art, obviously. I do. I've been spending more money on photography lately. Carame Weems and stuff like that. I love, like, you know, so I buy smaller things. I don't know. I feel like that's if I spend money these days on anything, I spend it on art and jewelry. You got a lot of jewelry? Yeah, I got a lot of jewelry. I'm like Liz Taylor up in this joint. I love jewelry. I love jewelry. You love jewelry? I love jewelry. I love diamonds. I love rubies. I got an old watch. You have old watches? I just got one that's No, jewelry? You have a rubber band around your arm. That's not jewelry. Thank you for saying that. So prior to this wedding ring, the only piece of jewelry, this is the only jewelry I've ever worn in my life. Prior to this, and honestly, sometimes I look at it and I think, wow, like, you're edgy. Like, I think, like, I've never felt like more of a rapper than when I look at my wedding ring. You're blinged out now? Yeah, which is, like, so antithetical, if that's the right word, to, but this rubber band, so basically I've never worn any accessory fashion-wise ever. I did sometimes, when I was younger, wear wristbands. Oh, yeah, those are cool. Like the Nike swoosh. Like a sweatband. Yeah, but that was lame. One on the head? I don't like that. I did, but I'm playing sports for sure. Okay, cool. But this is a Whole Foods rubber band that my mom just brought some home one day when I was, like, 12 and I just wore it on my wrist and then I really liked it. And then sometimes girls, you know, they have hair bands and I wore a girl's hair band who I had a I guess a relationship with and that felt cool. And I just always have had a Whole Foods rubber band on my wrist. You always keep a Whole Foods rubber band? Now, Whole Foods stopped making these rubber bands last year. Isn't it wild that I just, like, the fact that I was like, oh, that's a rubber band. Did you hear what I just said? Yeah. They stopped making them? So, my whole life, since I was 12, I'm running out of rubber bands. I go to Whole Foods. I get a new pack A green rubber band. My brother did the same thing. They have, they, last year stopped making them. Why? My mom had saved them up so I've been living off my, and they, each one lasts like maybe two months. Like that one's too old. This one is old, but the problem is Whole Foods. Because at some point they'll crack and break. Yeah. Yeah, and look, they collect, they collect. Like, lint, and then. And then I have a decision to. Yeah, that's, I saw it. I saw the lint from over here. You saw the lint? I saw it from over here. Yeah, I was like, that's kind of gross. That one is so stretched out. Normally they're cute and, like, tight. And there's, like, a pube in there. Yeah. It is disgusting. Yeah, like, don't, don't worry about where it's been, Coleman. Sometimes they use it as copper. I analyzed this. Exactly. These are so important to me that basically my, my only option is I've found a different distributor that makes a different green rubber band of a similar size. It's a different shade of green slightly. I do like the shade of green, but it's just not the same rubber band. But I started kind of cycling them into my rotation, but still I thought this is a big. But only one. Do you not wear, like, a couple? Like, like, three or four? No, I wear one, and then it wears and tears, and then I get a new one. Oh, my God. I have to. I think you should get a tattoo, Lovett. I have to tell you a story. That'd be hot. That would be really cool, actually. I think we should take him for a tattoo right now. I would love that. Dave always used to make fun of how I dressed. Like, he would always. Wait, how long have you guys known each other? Like, two years. Eleven. No, like, eleven years now. 2014. Oh, wow. I'm sorry, before you answer that, how did you guys meet? He was a big fan. The first day he ever released music, I reached out to him. Really? The first day. At first, it was hard not to see him as a fan. But then eventually, when we hung out more and more, I learned that. Sure, you want a selfie, of course. Yeah, yeah. Wait, I never asked this. Did you know who he was? No, but I was when I Googled, like, who is this Benny Blanco with all these followers, I was immediately like, oh, my God, this is cool. So, you organically became friends after that. So then he reached out, and then, like, we kept missing each other, but then as soon as we hung out one time, it was instant best friendship. Yeah, yeah. We hung out once, and then we were. And we can't remember the first time. We remember the first time we met on Zoom, because the first time I ever met him on, like, Zoom or something. That wasn't the first time we ever met. Oh, I put him, I put him on the phone. We literally wrote a song for a movie, and he was just like, what? Like, he was, like, blown away. Yeah, it was cool. I was, like, in my little apartment, and, like, you know, I was recording music at night, and my neighbors would be like, hey, like, can you please stop rapping? Like, we can hear it. And I was just a fan. I wanted to text them and be like, it's cool that you're hearing it. You don't even understand. You don't understand. Because he wasn't so big yet. But actually, I totally. You're gonna blow the fuck up. I totally understood, even independent of how good I was, I totally understood the burden it was causing my neighbor, and I worked with them to. Now, what do they think, those neighbors? I don't think they care, and I think that it was just annoying to hear someone, like, I'd be, it's not like I'm, like, putting on a virtuoso performance. I'm probably, like, doing the same take. You're working some shit out, exactly. Yeah, like, over and over again, and, like, so, uh, no. Were you rapping loud? Yeah, I was recording actual music. Yeah. And where was this apartment? Santa Monica. Okay, so, okay. Right near Stella Barra. Okay, cool. Yeah. Okay. Pizzeria. So, yes, so. Dave used to make fun of the way I dressed. Oh, yeah. And one day, we were going to a party, and he said, he said, okay, he said, I'm gonna show you how ridiculous you are. And he, he put on one of my outfits. I had, like, it was, like, a pair of overalls, and, like, I looked like a coal miner. And some other stuff. And, and. It looked like I was in, like, a movie set in a different time. And he was trying to. Old-timey movie. He was trying to prove a point to me. So we go to a party, and literally all night, everyone was like, Dave, you look incredible. Like, people were coming up to him, telling him how well he was dressed. I thought my outfit was funny, right? And it was funny, because I do believe in it. But people were just coming up to me, like, yo, like, cool outfit. It turned into style. Like, you should wear this outfit, Dave. This would look good on you. Would you wear this? We're dressed similar. Yeah, you guys are. I love your style today. Well, you know when I really, I, listen, I've seen you a couple times in where we, I think, listen, this is where I deeply fell in love. At the moment, because I said, I complimented your shoes. You were wearing some little ballet flats or something. Yeah, and they had sparkles. It had sparkles, and literally he did this. He did this. Yeah. And I was like, I can love this guy. This guy, we're going to be friends. Yeah. Because that's the way I get very proud of, like, people's details. I was so happy. He was so, but he was like, suddenly you were like eight years old. Yeah. Because you were so happy. You were like, I went like, I literally went like this. I went, and then I went, I went like, like I, like, curtsied or something. And literally, I was like, okay, this guy is amazing. You were like, somewhere on some carpet. Where were we? The Golden Globes or something? Something. It was like, it was my, like, you're like a style icon. For him to say, like, he was like, wow. And he said, like, first he mentioned my jewelry, and I was wearing, like, this, like, Victorian, like, you were done up. I know the necklace. I was wearing this vintage, yeah, that vintage. I know that neck. I know the outfit. Yeah, I have such a good look. But it was the little shoes. Have you always cared about your style? I think it's just always. Were you stylish when you were, like, a loser? No. Were you stylish when you were? You know, I think, listen, I have a picture that has made its way around the internet of when I was, like, seven years old. And I'm sitting in between my brother and sister, and I have my legs crossed like this, and I'm wearing a little fucking tidy jacket. I look super fucking, I look like I'm running shit. Yeah. So I think I've always had a sense of style. Even when I was a kid, I just, like, cared about what I looked like. So why weren't you, why weren't you cool? If you were, like, dressed cool? You were cool. You were, like, a hot guy? No, I was not hot, cool, anything. Lack of confidence? You had no beard, huh? I had no beard. No, the beard, when the beard's gone, whoo, it's a thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a lady. I know. No, me, like, yeah, me without a beard. No, me without a beard, I feel like I need, my face needs something. I need a beard. Yeah, exactly. Would you shave it for, what about, what about a roll? Yeah. You'd shave it for a roll. I've shaved it for rolls, and it's really, I just feel like, and people, they're like, no, come on. I'm like, I don't think I have much of an upper lip without a mustache. The mustache You have a great lip. You have a big upper lip to me. No, it grounds my face. Like, but listen, you see how dudes, most dudes are wearing beards now, you know why? Yeah. Why? Because it gives you a fucking chin. Yeah, I know. It gives you a defined, it gives you, yeah. Can I tell you something? Yeah. So I, I was always kind of, in my opinion, ugly growing up. Like, maybe You're not an ugly child. I think I'm attractive now. He thinks he's hot now. Yeah, yeah. I think I'm handsome now. Yeah. I mean, to me, no. But when you were a child, you weren't. No, he was hideous. You weren't a sexy baby. No, he was hideous. There's pictures where he looked 70. I looked sick. Oh, okay. Especially my bar mitzvah. I looked sick. It looks like he has, like, some sort of. Didn't you, like, shave your hair? I got it. I had a buzz cut, I had a widow's peak, whatever. A widow's peak and a buzz cut. You were a widow? Anyway. Yeah, he's so nice. I grew this beard. You've never seen it, huh? No. I've never seen your widow's peak. He has a widow's peak. Oh, I guess, I guess I have when you put your hair back. Yeah. I get it. I grew the beard, instantly became so much more handsome. So the ladies are just like, I like beards. No, no, just like, wow, like, now I'm, now, yes, I have a girlfriend. Like, everything changed. I became, like, just changed everything fundamentally. So, of course, I never shaved my face at all for, like, 15 straight years. Right. Then for a role, I had to shave my face, and I realized I hadn't actually seen my raw face as an adult ever. The last time it was, it was, it was. How did it feel? I just, I did it. I literally was shocked at what I looked like. He actually looked cool. Yeah. I look 12 when I shave, still. And I already look young from age now, but I look really much, it's crazy. I didn't shave, I used to have a, I had a goatee for a little while, and I had, like, a mustache, just a mustache. I can't believe what I looked like. For a little while. I bet, wait. Let me find it. It's shocking. Will you find it? You look like a prince, like an evil prince in a Disney movie. I look like, you know, like, you have such a, like, distinctive, like, you have, you have a chin. Would you ever shave your eyebrows for a role? No. For a role? No, because they won't fucking grow back. No, like, Scorsese is like, well, you need to shave your head, eyebrows. I'm like, you shut the fuck up, Scorsese. Leave my fucking eyebrows. No, he says you gotta shave everything. No, because these days, you can fucking put shit over it and, like, paint that shit out and stuff like that. Would you do anything for the role, though? No. Really? Anything? Well, let's see, as long as it's for the role. Yeah, they're like, you gotta shave, like, it's like, you're like a cancer, like, in, like, everything, all your hair's gone, everything. No, that would make sense. Like, there was a role that I was gonna do for a film where I would play a character who had ALS. And literally, I knew that, and I'm still scared if the film comes around, I'm almost afraid of it because I know what the responsibility of what you have to, what your body does. And I feel like I try to go for the truth of things. But the thing is, the messed up thing, and we all know this as people who act, is like your body, your psychology doesn't know that you're acting. And that's the thing I'm afraid of is like, you know, to go that far and respect that. So you take that into consideration? Yeah, I mean, I guess. I knew that like this one role, I sort of like moved it off of the table because I feel like I know that I have to be really prepared to do that. And I don't know if I'm in a place. Right now, I'm in a place where I want to do things that are lighthearted, a little bit more light. I just don't. It's too much dark. The scene wasn't really light. Literally, it was after that. After that, I was like, oh, you know, I think those movies that are light, everything's going to rip your heart open. It was so good. Can you not, like when you go home after a day of filming, can you turn off? Or like in the entirety of the role, are you kind of locked in? I can turn it off the moment I walk out. Oh, wow. Yeah. I just feel like people who like talk about, okay, I'm not going to talk about my colleagues, but people talk about method and being so deeply in it, and they got to, I feel like, yes, you set the environment in every way that you need to act to do the job, and then you need to know how to let that go. And usually, like, I let it go. I go have a good meal. I get back into my script or whatever. There's certain ways that I feel like, let's see a movie like Sing Sing. I made sure, like, Raul didn't come out to visit me, because I think, I'm like, no, I just need to be with these guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is my reality. I need to be with these guys. The guy who played my best friend, Sean San Jose, who's also my best friend, he literally stayed in my room with me, because I was like, because we were roommates in prison, I'm like. That's the part of reality that I like, that I need. But it keeps me closer to the material. Yeah. But I'm not that person who's going to be like, oh, I'm just going to be in a prison and eating what they gave me and all that. So you never do, like, a machine. Guys, I can't stop thinking about the unpacking thing. I know that other people are living out of their suitcase when they vacation, so I need Yahoo Scout to just clarify a few things for me, because I've been ruminating. I'm thinking, am I really the only guy out there living out of the suitcase? So I want to know, Yahoo Scout, do most people unpack or live out, of a suitcase, on vacation? Deciding whether to unpack or live out of a suitcase on vacation often depends on the length of your stay. That's fair, with many travelers preferring to settle in their drawers if they are in one place for three nights or longer. Interesting. It's a length issue, which I can understand. I'm going to ask a little follow-up question, if you don't mind. What is the best argument for not unpacking? Because there's got to be a reason. Choosing not to unpack is often described as a strategy that turns your luggage into a minimalist living system. But for systems-based people, optimizers, it allows you to maintain a constant readiness for your destination. So, Yahoo Scout, thank you for holding me down again and providing me clarity when I need it at most. I'm going to get back to Coleman. Do you think you ever pick up characteristics of, like, the personalities of the roles that you play, like little things here and there that might just carry on as you move forward in life? Maybe, but I think more than anything, there's all these people sort of live in me in some way. Yeah. So, I know that something else gets activated in a different way. So, I know that I see something different that I give to that character that's not in that character. Yeah, yeah. Like, I can, you know, oh, what's that? I couldn't find it. I've been looking for five minutes for it. Is it a portrait? What is this? It's the closest thing I can do to provide you with a picture of me shaven, but it's not even a good, because I have, like, a mustache and a thing. A friend made this for me. Wow, you have a very different face. What is it? What is it? Jasper made it for me. Let me see it. But you look like a tough guy here. What is this? I look like a biker. Oh, yeah. A Hans. You look like you would fuck somebody up. I look like I could be in a biker gang. But also, your hair's back, too. Yeah, slicked. You look, also, it just looks like a different person. Yeah. Yeah. Imagine being surprised at who you are. Like, truly. It's just, what a shocking thing. I had no clue what I looked like. But also, which is wild, because it's like you have such a, just meeting you, you have a lighter personality. Yeah. And this, it's like he's. I know. I like that I have that card for a role. I like that I can have that. I have a totally different look that I can, whatever. Wait, can I, that's just you with the, what is this? Wait, so I have an acting question, and I've been a little checked out for the last two minutes thinking about finding the right picture. So, like, for me, I have trouble. I'm not, I consider myself an actor, but I didn't grow up, like, thinking about myself as an actor, and I probably. No facial hair, by the way. Wait, let me see. Wait, I gotta see. It's a little blurry, but that's. Yeah. Wait. I guess that does look different. Oh, I do, I do understand. I understand the lip thing. I understand it. Let me see, let me see. Now you understand the lip thing. See what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. I need something that grounds that lip and make it appear like it is. Let me see this thing again. So do you. No, you have to trim every day. You look like a different guy. I trim down every day, yeah. Do you trim down every day? You look like a. It's a different guy. What year is this? That's 2014. And this was for a role? That's for a role. So you would never, you would never do it? I would never do it for myself. For a role, I had to do it because I had to. I think you look good. I had to play all these different characters. Your beard makes you look real hot. Right, see, there we go. Thank you, thank you. I like beards. Keep the beard, Coleman. No, but I think you look good in there. No, no, you look great in there. You look like a different person. You're an actor's actor, right? Yes, I think so. I like to believe so. I think you are, yeah, for sure. Like I, to me, I think I could be a great actor playing myself, like easy. Like I'm like, but that's, to you I'm sure that's not even acting. I think to myself, wow, like if like Spielberg came to me and he said, hey, would you be in this movie set in 1600s or something and I had to play a soldier who like talked differently, I would really have a lot of fear and probably all I think I could do is practice as hard as I can. But at the end of the day, for me, I feel like I can't do anything. Like I can think logically and train to give what I think for my taste is the best type of performance. Okay. Right? But I can never convince my brain that I am this other person. Really? Why is that? It is an, I don't know. I'm always aware that I am. You're aware of yourself. Yes. And that's the thing about, I think, an actor, you have to learn to sort of like give up yourself in a way. So how does that happen? Yeah, how do you do that? You just do, like, the choices that I make as an actor, let's say like, oh, I'm married to Regina King in this thing right here, right? I'm like, I have to find all the things that make it a reality. I'm like, what am I attracted to about her when I see her or whatever? It's, yeah, Coleman making decisions as an actor based on the character of what the relationship is. But, okay, as you're shooting these movies, when it's cut, in between takes, it's Coleman analyzing everything exactly how Coleman. Coleman's not analyzing anything. No, it's not. No, because I think that's the death to anything is analyzing. Think about the way you make music and all. Like, yeah, well, but that could be different because I think there's a different way to analyze this stuff. I think you have to almost be in service to the thing and not overthink certain things. Like, if you, for me, and I feel like I've had an actual clash with another actor talking about process. One actor's talking about, oh, I just need to go on set and just, like, be available and do all this stuff. I'm like, for me, I have to research and study so much. I prep for any movie for, like, four or five months in advance. Wow. Are you, like, looking in the mirror and saying the lines and being like, no, I don't like. No, you're doing research, you're doing text work, you're looking at the text, what does it say, what does it mean? No delivery practice? No, you read the script, but you're not practicing the delivery. You're not looking at, like, how this guy acts, the way his face moves. No, you can't be conscious of any of that stuff. But how did you do it? Let's say, here's an example. Let's say Joe Jackson. Yeah. All right? Yeah. Joe Jackson, you can research him, you can find out about him, you can find out his voice patterns, the way he laughs, images, you can take in all that. You can get information on what he liked to eat, drink, all this other shit. You get all this information. I look at a lot of images. I look at his body, the way he positions his body. A lot of times, he was a bit more hunched over. He would, like, he would bring his mouth in and he would talk a bit more like this. And even the way he spoke to people, he would get people sort of to lean in. And I think it was a powerful thing. So, a lot of times, he would talk like this. How you doing, Michael? He was from, you know, yeah, I don't know. So I think that he would. But he's the worst example because that's a historical figure. I'm talking about a character. But you didn't practice that? I didn't practice that? You did practice that. No, I started to find it. And I look for things even, like, with my hand. Like, let's say when I played. Okay, when I'm making up a character or the difference between, like, playing a real character? Making up a character. Yeah. I can make up choices right now. Like, just say, like, let's say. It's all technical, too. Let's say you start with a voice. Let's say. Give me a character to make up. Oh, like a drug addict? A drug addict. A drug addict. Yeah. Okay, a drug addict. What drug? Oh, the. You gotta be specific. Heroin. Heroin. What does heroin do to the body? Has anybody noticed anybody with heroin? Slows the body down. Slows the body? A lot of nodding out. Okay. Slows the body down. They're a little sleepy. Yeah. Where's this person from? They're from New York. From New York. New Yorker. New Yorker. Okay, it's me. I'm playing it, so I'm gonna say. Okay, he's from Brooklyn. Heroin addict. Happy child life? Happy? Yes. Yeah, he was a happy kid. Yeah. He, like, fell into this. He's not from a broken home. Okay, so he's got a lightness to him as well. Yeah. Maybe we can start to pitch his voice up. Like, if my voice naturally sits here, and I could take it up higher and take it up higher and take it up higher and take it up higher, maybe even right here, maybe I'll want to place it right here, and just like, hey, how's it going, you guys? What's up? And is he on heroin right now? Feels like it. Maybe. Feels like it might be. I think so. Yeah. Yeah. And then he could nod off a little bit as well, right? Yeah. Right, but you can place his voice. You can place it. But aren't you, Coleman, as a man, making these decisions based off your own life experiences and your interpretation? No, no, no. That's so good. I know, I was kind of locked in. I want to see more of it. But the funny thing is, people listen. Listen, people always say, like, oh, my God, when I saw you do the thing, saying, you know, it was so real, I just knew that. Somebody you knew was in prison here. Yeah. And I'm like, no, nobody I know was in prison. What you just did was so real in that moment. That's like an acting exercise. But I want to go back to how you lose yourself. Like, how do you not have the entire. How are you not self-aware the entire time? Because you can't have judgment on anything. You yourself, as an individual, you go into the role being like, I'm not going to judge myself at all. Absolutely. Even when it comes to looking at playback. If I look at playback on something, I'm not looking at my performance. I want him to be another person. Who do you want me to be? Dave Byrd. Let's think about it. Wait. No, no, no. Historical figures are two. That's a different game. You're not a historical figure. Yes, I am. Oh, I guess, yeah. Okay, okay, wait. Let's have him be. I was thinking dead. Wait, let's have him be. Let's have him be. Can you guys tell me a little bit about this recent birthday trip you guys had in Malibu where you stayed at a home on Airbnb? It was truly heaven. It was so much fun. I wanted to just. We wanted to get away for my birthday and look at the ocean. But we wanted to feel. We wanted to, like, pretend that we lived there because I love Malibu. I felt like I lived there. I really connected with this home. We stayed there for, like, three days. I don't even know that I want to. Yeah, we're really. We love the home so much we're, like, gatekeeping it. I remember thinking this literally as if it was a shower thaw. I was like, why don't we do this more? Yes. I literally was thinking this is so. What, book a home on Airbnb? Yes. Yeah. And, like, go away for the weekend. I think you should. I actually looked for this weekend. Did you have a great birthday? I had a great birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Thanks to? Airbnb, honestly. Guys, my hair care routine just leveled up thanks to Head & Shoulders. And I'm a guy who needs it because I have been in high-leverage situations in my life. Red carpet, black suit, and I've had white chunks of skin. I've seen that. Yes. Not anymore because I've leveled up my hair care routine with Head & Shoulders. It's a classic. I will say. Hey, check. Yeah. I didn't need to level up. Been a loyal customer since 1999. Yeah? Yep. You Head & Shoulder? Yep. Look, new Head & Shoulders. Classic clean. It's got new HydraZinc. I love myself. I love some HydraZinc. Yeah. Gives you 24-7 day-to-day protection even between washes. So all day, every day. That's not a saying. That's a reality. And I gotta say. This one, all men, smells so good. You know why it's so good? It gets to the root of the problems, not just the symptoms. High-stakes snowflakes. Should we have him be a woman? I can be a woman. No, no, no, no, no. I want a man first. Well, let's do two. Let's do two. Okay. Kristen gets to decide the first one or Dave decides this one and then I'll decide the last one. Shopkeeper of a 1950s. Oh. I thought he. You can do her first. Library? Shop. That's not a. Shopkeeper. No, no, no, no, no. Shut up. I'm sorry. How about like a. War? Like a hacker. Oh, a hacker. A hacker? Like a 20. Like a modern-day, like, you know, technological sleuth. Like Facebook? Like, no. Okay, never mind. I don't like it. I don't like it. No, I'm gonna come up with one. How about this? How about if I just make something real for you right now in the moment? Yeah. Because I feel like you can always do it very quickly and people are always just like, how can you fucking do this so quickly? Yeah. Because you can launch it and you just go like, for all that I could ever read, could ever hear, by Taylor History, the course of true love never did run smooth. But either it was different in blood or else misgraphed in respective years or else it stood upon the choice of friends. Or if there were a sympathy What is that? in choice, war, death, or sickness did lay siege to it making it momentary as a sound. Swift as a shadow, short as any dream, brief as the lightning and the calling night that in a spleen unfolds both heaven and earth. An air of man has power to say, behold. The jaws of darkness do devour it up. So quick. Are you improv-ing or script? Bright things. What's that mean? Come to confusion. Are you improv-ing or is it script? That's Shakespeare. Shakespeare. Yeah. Wait, so you just memorized? You knew, you. Yeah, yeah. Okay. That's too close. That's what I mean. That's what I streamed. But how you can, listen, how you can just like take something you know and make it a reality in the moment and you can make it. I was like sad, like you made. This is my main point. Teach, give Dave all of your techniques. Dave, what? I think if I ever do succeed in doing any of these things. Okay. It will not, from, maybe it's just because I can't and I need to learn how, but it's not really coming from Dave Bird letting go the reins. It's coming from Dave Bird kind of being aware of the facts at hand, analyzing his own skill set, making a decision of what. But see, I think that's the trouble. You gotta, it can't be about you. That's the thing. Okay, how about this? It can't be about you. It's about you using your intelligence, your skills, your knowledge to figure out this character and then let it be about this person. Like that's where you have no judgment, you know, in any way. So it's a really, there's this strange thing that actors do where I feel like you've gotta be in service to the role and the work and it's not about you. You can't be like, oh, it's Dave making, everybody's gonna look at me thinking about what I'm doing. Yeah, yeah. I don't know that that's my concern. It's more, I just can't help but be aware of the reality that I am trying to come up with the solution to serve the thing. Like, I'm just trying to serve the thing. I'm not saying I'm a selfish actor. I want to serve the thing. I want to do exactly what the director and writer want me to do. I'm just saying I don't ever feel like I can get to a place mentally where I'm like, I'm not even me. I'm this other person. Well, that's where you gotta do the work. I think that's, I think it's, how can I, do I just need to go to therapy or something? I think a good therapist would work for you. Okay, so I went to an acting coach, one of the best in LA, and by the way, because I had to do a crying scene, right? And I was like, to me, I gotta get emotional here. I really want it to be good and I don't know the right way to approach it because when I think about it, I think, yeah. You know what the problem is? I'll tell you this already because I know exactly what, the moment you said it's a crying scene, that's death. I understand that. You know why? Why? I don't know why. But even if it's written down there, he cries, he sobs here, you can't start there because what? Go ahead, tell me. I understand what you're saying. Pretend I just said emotional scene. Like a deeply emotional scene where I wanted to be really emotionally. Even that. I'm telling you, you know why? Because I feel like the moment, the tricky thing that we do to ourselves, if you think something has to be emotional, it fucks you up. You have to think about your actions. What do I want? What do I need? What will happen if I don't get it in the scene? But if the scene is an emotional scene. But you can't know that it's an emotional scene. I can, I can. Just think about this scene. We don't know that somebody's about to cry right now. No, but then when it says John cries in the scene, we know that he cried. But fuck that. Ignore that shit. Really? Yeah. You see that? Ignore it. What you have to do is take yourself back to where you are, what you, let's see, John cries in this scene. Okay, we're saying John cries in this scene right now. What happened to John on the way here? What's going to happen? What's going to trigger him in this scene to make something emotional happen? But if we walk in thinking, oh fuck, I'm going to have to cry in the scene, we're not doing the work to come in to actually let it be alive and well. You have to walk into the scene just like, oh, John walks into the scene, finds out his mother's dead. Okay? Uh-huh. He's going to get emotional in some way. Yeah. But also, you don't want to say that he cries because maybe John doesn't react that way. Yeah. So whatever it is emotional, he gets emotional, which I think is a great way to put something in a script because you're not dictating what the fuck that person does. So John walks into the room. John walks into the room and his mother and his brother walks up to him and is just like, and he just walks in. He came in from like, it was a hard fucking day at Walgreens where he fucking works and he hates his fucking life. I love Walgreens. Shit like this. You know, his mother, before she, before, in the morning was just like, I'll see you when you get home. I got something for you. Yeah. It was something special, whatever. He walks in and his brother's like, mom's dead. And he's like, wait, what? Mom's dead. He doesn't even know what, how to experience this. And maybe rage comes because, I don't know, he fucking hates his brother. I don't know, something, whatever it is, but he plays what's in the scene and then let that be a reality. And of course, you're working with the director, you're working with everybody and everybody, will like help you to finesse what that moment is. But you make it the reality. But you come in from like, fuck, I had a hard fucking day at work, this shit, whatever, and just trust that whatever fucking is going to happen here is going to be delicious. Uh-huh. So you fully surrender. Yes. Do you, are you sometimes shocked by what you do? Like, I'll be honest, there are times where I'm, I don't know that things would go, I have been shocked because I feel like you give yourself over and you don't know exactly. I'm not saying it's got to be a certain way. I feel like you've got to get away of saying, oh, it's got to be amazing, it's got to be beautiful. I've got to cry. I don't fucking know. It's always surprising. What you want to know is you want to see that moment behind the eyes when people are making decisions or feeling something and then letting it being as honest as possible. Uh-huh. That's all I can say. And for you to get out of the way and not judge what the fuck you're doing. My friend, who's a really good director, and I didn't have a ton of acting experience and I was like really nervous to like do a show because I was like, I don't know how to do it. And he told me, like after he saw and it changed everything for me. He said, you're thinking about what your line's going to be and you're not listening to what the person's saying. And he said, you have to, it doesn't even matter if you know your line. He said, just listen to what that person's saying and react off what that person is saying and then your line is going to come to you. Because that's real life. That's exactly what we do. Right? Because you think about that. You're not setting up. No, I'm the improv king. I could, the conversation can go anywhere. I can do that. Right. Well, you're writing your own thing. It's different. Even if I was just hired as an actor for hire and serving Steven Spielberg and his vision, I think. Well, I don't think it's not something that can necessarily happen naturally. I just wonder how one improved the skills set required to not worry about your skill set i think you know what i'm saying i think i think there's an answer in that question i think you really do have to let's say people always just oh my god how was it working with spielberg i'm like it was great but like did you what did you learn whatever i'm like learn you learn all the time learn from everybody but i'm not walking in being like oh my god this is spielberg the greatest fucking director ever i'm walking in as an actor and in service i have questions i want to figure shit out i want to figure shit out together and we're going to be raw and we're going to make mistakes we're going to make bad choices because we have to you can't think about you got to liberate yourself from all that shit and i think maybe that's what we're talking about this will wrap this shit up you don't want to be so self-conscious that you get in your own way of not expressing and trying things out and figuring things out i tell every director i work with i'm like the first three takes may be garbage i'm telling you that i'm okay with that though i don't need to be at like having a fine performance already because i'm figuring you know what i'm saying out and figuring out your camera moves and what the fuck this prop is and what the fuck are they saying and great getting it all together so i'm like even to script supervisors they'll come up and like oh coleman the line is i'm like not yet yeah trust me i'm in the kitchen working and i've liberated myself which is a rare fucking thing in this industry because everyone wants to finish product very quickly and so it limits you so for me i don't do that because i'm like i'm okay with looking like a fool i'm okay looking like i walked in you're like oh fuck we hired coleman he's terrible terrible right now coleman knows he's terrible right now but coleman trusts that he's going to get to a good place you know but we got to liberate ourselves so i tell you that you got to liberate yourself you need to go to like esalen or something what's that esalen is a place um for the huh is it big for actors or to fix my brain no just like you gotta you gotta run and be naked in the woods you gotta let go basically right yeah yeah yeah uh will you act like you have to leave because they just told us you have to leave okay i have to act like i have to leave oh man but first of all i feel like i can talk to you guys for a thousand fucking hours for three seconds because i told her this and she doesn't know tell us how you met your husband in 50 seconds in 50 seconds picture it 2005 it was an analog time i'm walking down the street and and and um berkeley california i see this beautiful face we see each other lock eyes never speak i'm like who the fuck is this three days later i'm on craigslist trying to buy a used computer i i couldn't stop thinking about this interaction like what if i place one of those craigslist missed connection and and you know saw you in the a-train you were wearing a red hat i was like maybe i'll write one of those i look on page two third from the top it says sorry i started walking with berkeley it was fucking me he described me and my faux hawk he had hair down here and lip piercing we met up three days later i told him i loved him on our first date i love you and you're going to change my life and that is the way that story goes we've been together for 21 years oh my god i love you back on the first date or did you say that's a lot but i respect that you're saying that no he was actually silent he felt it but he because i thought he was asleep i said i love you oh my god my wife did that to me two times in her sleep wait what yeah she said i love you while she was sleeping shut up she said like very early in our relationship she goes she moved over and she was like i love you what did you feel i i i went like this i went i went i went i went and just like rubbed her back well no i rubbed her back because she because she didn't know she wasn't conscious and then one time she was coming out of surgery she was coming out of surgery the second time she said i love you to me and she rubbed her back because she didn't know she wasn't conscious and she goes she goes i love you and then and then and then she did the hand do that again no she didn't she didn't notice it so i didn't say it and then finally i'll just tell you this right i'm prepped i'm she i'm prepping i'm gonna say i love you to her because we had a beautiful trip in new york and i said this is gonna be my perfect time to say i love you it's the night i'm saying i love you we're in bed and she's like she somehow knows i'm gonna say it and she like keeps trying to like beat me to it and i i just go would you just shut up and let me say it right now and i was like i love you and then like we were in bed yeah i sat up i said wait you didn't whisper it or anything no i said well she was messing it up and i said just shut up for two seconds and let me say it and i looked her in the face and i said and i grabbed her face and i said i love you and i and then people put too much pressure on it say it when you want to say when did you say it and we'll wrap this up well i was popping a pimple on his back wow okay and he remember you said i know i had plans to say it that day you know me i'm a planner i i thought it through i love these stories yeah so you were planning i was planning to say it that day i've first off it was like late it was like six months in i get to me saying i love you to the person in my mind i'm like i'm gonna marry whoever i end up saying that to at this phase of my life which is overthinking it but it's still i take it seriously i don't i would say like on the second day i said it day one yeah yeah i love that and anyways i was gonna say it and then we were in i mean this is i guess not it's graphic but not in a sexual way we're in the shower and i was gonna say it like i was about to say it and then she said like wait there's a new one on your back so before he was on um accutane i had such bad acne on my back okay and she was it was huge it was like this big it was popping my pimple and i think i can't say this right now i'm not that's an ultimate act of love right and actually the story is still tied because you're like yo she pops your back knee yeah no i knew i love you that's why i wanted to say it and then and then you said it as i was leaving and then you said you say too do you say i love you too he says yeah of course then he as he said it you went actually kristen you said it to me first yes it's basically like early in our relationship i got a haircut and i was like sending her a selfie i said what do you think she said i love it i love you like i can't wait to see you that's the first way it must be a text i love you like did you heart it or something or what did you do i think he took a screen grab and like sent it to everyone of my friends and said what do i what's what do i say to this like i spent a lot of time turning over every stone to be like how do i it's taking too long how do i get to the boyfriend girlfriend label yeah like what are we i thought i will say to dave also terrible timing it was like 3 a.m he was like his eyes were closing just like smoked weed and i said hey dave if people ask if you have a girlfriend what do you say I love that question. It's great. And he panicked. Yeah, I did. My husband asked me that when we were at a movie theater. We always laugh about that now because he was like, suddenly he was, now, like, I know I loved him already, day one. But we're sitting there watching, I don't even know if it's like a movie or watching something. He turns to me and he's like, so what are we? And I'm like, what does that mean? Well, we're obviously together, but I don't know what you mean. Like exclusive? You know what I do now that I made sure to, I think it's important for all of us to make sure that we always know that, like, you're my husband, but you're also my, I'm like, you're my boyfriend. I love that. Because I've now made him my boyfriend. Yeah, I always tell her. I like boyfriend, girlfriend. I still call him my boyfriend. No, I tell her. Because it feels brand new. I tell her. I'll tell her sometimes. I'll just call her up and I'll say, I want to let you know you're the sexiest woman alive. And then she's like, she's like, hell yeah. Walking around. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it makes you feel good. It's true. And it's true. But also, I feel like you have to do that shit daily, too. Of course. It can't go away. Oh, my God. I tell her she's the most beautiful girl in the world every day. You can never give too many compliments. You're very good at it. I used to say, don't have a shot. Okay, they're going to kill us. Oh, they're going to kill us. They're going to kill us. Okay. Come on out, guys. That's a wrap. Oh, man. I love this. I can't believe that's how you guys met. Isn't it beautiful? This episode is brought to you by Domino's. Thank you, Domino's.