The Client Who Went from $12K to $100K in 6 Months
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The transcription discusses a client who faced challenges with low conversion rates despite engaging content. By adjusting the content strategy to trigger dopamine in the audience's brain, the client experienced a substantial increase in monthly revenue, reaching $80,000 to $100,000. The focus shifted to creating content that activates dopamine, leading to audience obsession and easier conversions. The text emphasizes the significance of providing the necessary information in content to guide the audience towards making a purchase decision. By understanding the neuroscience behind triggering dopamine, the client's content began to attract more engaged and ready-to-buy customers. The role of anticipation loops, micro commitments, and addressing objections through content is highlighted as key elements in enhancing conversion rates. Ultimately, the text stresses that by activating dopamine in content, businesses can drive desired actions from their audience and streamline the sales process.
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We had a client who came to us making around $12,000 per month and although she was posting
consistently and had pretty decent engagement, her conversion rate was absolutely terrible.
She would get lots of DM inquiries but they were honestly just tire kickers that were asking
a million questions and her sales calls really felt more like she was trying to convince people
and obviously was not closing them and she was exhausted. Now she's doing between $80,000 and $100,000
per month. Same offer. We only raised the price a little bit. I want to unpack what we did differently
that now people are sliding into her DMs literally on the same day that they find her and what she's
been noticing is that she can see in her notifications that they were binging her content. They're
liking 10, 15 posts in a row. They're commenting on multiple things. They're watching all of her
story highlights and then they apply and then they show up to the call ready to buy with no real
objections. More of just when can we start energy with some clarifying questions about the offer
itself. What changed is that her content started actually providing her audience's brain with the
information that they need to make a purchase decision and part of that was learning how to
trigger dopamine in her content and I want to give you a little bit of the neuroscience behind this
because when your content activates dopamine in someone's brain, that is what makes them
obsessed with you. They can't stop consuming your content. They binge your profile and then they
buy without hesitation because the decision was already made emotionally before they ever talked
to you and you provided them with enough proof and context that they were able to justify that
purchase to themselves before they ever even applied and so if you don't have people that are
dropping into your DMs basically ready to work with you after just asking a couple of questions,
this episode is for you. So today we're going to unpack why your content isn't triggering dopamine
and why that's killing your conversion rate. We're going to talk about the neuroscience
of creating an anticipation loop and how that's different than a curiosity loop. How to use these
specific buying triggers to open those anticipation loops that are linked to your offer and we're
also going to talk a lot about the micro commitment ladder. How binging content really primes people
to buy if you're doing this correctly and I'm going to give you some real content examples
that trigger dopamine from my own content and what the intended impact was and I'm going to tell you
if it had that impact, give you some stats around that and give you some examples of things that we
would do for clients. So when we're scripting their content and all they have to do is film
what we're giving them, hand it back to us, we edit and schedule and post it, I'm going to give you
a little bit of behind the scenes of what some of those posts would look like and again what the
intended impact is of those posts and then we're going to talk a little bit about how to audit
your content right now to see if it's doing this. So the bottom line here is that your content is
just not activating the right part of the brain and once you know how to trigger that then everything
changes. Hi, I'm Kenda, founder of Laini Media and we are the only social media and marketing firm
in existence. Our content system is responsible for over $323 million in revenue across 3,000+
clients so let's get into what I'm seeing with people's content. Before we get into the science
and the strategy, I want you to understand if this is actually your problem because if your
content isn't activating the brain, if it's not giving them all of the information that they
need to make a purchase decision, you don't know how to trigger dopamine with your content to get
people to take specific actions, then here's what's probably happening in your business right now.
Number one is people consume your content but they don't necessarily take action. You can tell that
people are watching your reels, they're reading your carousels, they might even be commenting,
they're telling you "wow this is such good information, thanks so much for this" but they
don't click the link, they're not DMing you, you're not seeing an influx of traffic on your profile,
your profile isn't converting, you're not getting applications at the rate that you should be for
the amount of traffic that you have and so that's a huge red flag that your content is not triggering
that dopamine. It's not getting people to take the actions that you want. The second thing that I'm
seeing a lot is DM inquiries being really low quality so they're asking super basic questions
they could have googled, they're price shopping, they're really not pre-sold, they're just curious
and you're educating them basically from scratch on every single call. Every sales call you're having
to really feel like you're convincing them and trying to sell them on the process, it's not even
just selling the offer, it's trying to convince them that this vehicle is going to work for them
and that's exhausting because you shouldn't have to be doing that if your content is doing its job.
The other thing is that you're getting a lot of objections, you're having to overcome objection
after objection after objection, you're hearing "I need to think about it, I'm talking to a couple
of other people and I'll get back to you" and you're working really hard to close them instead of
just signing them up which is exhausting and that's a symptom that your content is not building trust
so that they're ready to buy when they get on the phone with you. What a lot of people don't
realize is that their sales process would be a lot easier if their marketing was better because
improving your marketing, improving your content is not even just about increasing your lead flow
getting more leads, it's also about the quality of the leads and the friction within the sales
process. You're going to have less friction within your sales process and less buying resistance
when people are already pre-sold and so when you have answered every question that their brain
has, when you have provided all of the information that our brain's taken to consideration when we're
going to make a decision then they're not trying to get that from the sales process. All you're
doing then is just assessing if this is somebody who you actually want to work with so it changes
the brain completely throughout the sales process. You can be a lot more selective and it's not this
convincing energy where you're really trying to convince them and close them super hard and
overcome objections super aggressively because again people are more or less sold already.
They've decided to work with you, your job is just not to fumble the ball basically in this
process. Another thing I'm seeing a lot is full just don't binge your content so if you're recognizing
that people see like one post they like it, they move on but you're not seeing them really engage
with a volume of content and you'll be seeing this in your notifications and this is an easy way
just for you to spot check. Obviously there's deeper ways that we can analyze this and different
metrics that we can calculate but just do a little spot check here. Like when you're looking through
your notifications at the end of the day are you seeing a lot of the names pop up on different
pieces of content? That's a sign that your content is converting, it is working, it's acting as that
modern sales funnel because people are hitting your page and then they're binging, they're interacting
with a lot of pieces of content within one day. We really want to be getting people kind of falling
down that rabbit hole within your content, bringing them into your ecosystem and so if people are
binging your content they're you know on a neurological level they're not getting those
repeated dopamine hits that create that obsession that really leads to sales. The other thing you'll
notice is that you're getting a lot of views but not followers or followers but not leads, right?
There's a breakdown in your conversion somewhere. There's usually one metric where you're like this
is pretty good so why is this part not working? Which that just means that there is something
broken within your process and it's typically not the entire process it's just one maybe two things
and so people are dropping off before they take action and you can't quite figure out where or
why and I'm going to tell you right now it's partially because your content is not again
triggering dopamine, creating that anticipation loop that's going to drive them through the buyer
journey a lot quicker and the common thread here is that all of these symptoms point to the same
root cause which is that your content is not providing their brain with all of the information
that they need to make a purchase decision. There's no desire, there's no obsession,
there's no compulsion to act because you don't know how to trigger that dopamine in your content.
Dopamine is the key. That is how you get anyone to do anything because our brain is acting in
anticipation of either completing something, receiving something, getting an award, hitting a
new milestone. That anticipation, that dopamine chemical is what keeps us moving forward and so
if you want to keep people moving forward within your sales process you have to consistently be
opening those anticipation loops and giving them a payoff over and over and over.
Those micro commitments and that response conditioning is what is going to move people
through your process, one a lot quicker and two with a lot less resistant and so when your content
super valuable it's really educational. It's not necessarily triggering that neurochemical response
and so people aren't going to take action on it and what most people get wrong is they think that
if they post more that just more volume is going to get them more leads. Like if I just could get
more views if I just could get more eyes on my content I'd make more sales so they optimize for
engagement they're looking at like comment shares but engagement definitely does not equal conversion
and I see this all the time. We did an audit for somebody this past week who was reaching
over four million people per month and making less than a hundred dollars, a hundred dollars
from per content. Four million people less than a hundred dollars. That's literally insane and then
we have clients with less than five thousand followers who are generating three hundred thousand
dollars in leads from a single hope and so why are those results so vastly different? Because when I
see people that have millions of followers they're reaching millions of people every month and they're
barely making any money I just want to scream about this from the rooftop because if that doesn't tell
you that views are not going to solve your problem I don't know what will and so again the real issue
here is that your content isn't triggering the neurochemical response that creates desire and
action dopamine is the brain's reward chemical and so what that means is that it's released when we
anticipate something good it's what gives us like cravings or different foods it's what makes us click
on that ad to go look at that product it's what drives us to take action dopamine is what drives
behavior it's what makes people binge netflix it's what makes people scroll tiktok for hours because
those micro dopamine hints that you're getting over and over and over every time you go to scroll
to the next video opening an anticipation loop in the brain and getting a dopamine hint I think
what a lot of people don't understand is that people's dopamine it comes from the anticipation
of the next video not necessarily the video that you're watching and so that's what actually gets
people to stay and watch your video is when what you're giving them in that video is more dopamine
than they would get from the anticipation of going to the next video so if you can release more of
that chemical within their brain with your video that is what keeps them there because the second
your video feels a little bit boring the second you're no longer giving them that payoff of those
consistent dopamine hit then their brain is like I can get more of this elsewhere and that's what
makes them scroll and again like this is the chemical that makes people check their phone
obsessively and it also is what makes people binge your content and buy from you without
objection and so if your content doesn't trigger dopamine it doesn't matter how valuable it is
because the brain is not motivated to act on it and so the gap here is that most people are
creating informational content they're educating but they're not creating anticipatory content
they're not activating desire education without anticipation equals consumption without conversion
and you have to have both and so that's what we're going to unpack today how do you create content
that yes provides value but is going to activate when people say oh how do you create content that
activates you need to activate your audience what nobody explains because they've just heard that
buzzword and they don't know what that actually means what you are activating is dopamine you're
activating the reward chemical in their brain that is what activation means and so when you are
activating that chemical within your their brain that creates anticipation and so they want to then
close that loop to get that payoff by purchasing your offer that is what activation actually means
and i think it's because people just simply don't know so here's here's more of the neuroscience
this is how dopamine actually works and i'm going to try and make this as simple as possible but i
think this little aha moment here i'm gonna trigger some dopamine for you is going to help you a lot
when you're understanding okay this is why we're filming content in a specific way even for our
clients where we're doing the scripts for them and all you have to do is film it i think it's
very valuable to understand still why we're doing this why are we phrasing things the way that we
are why are we actually talking about this topic instead of this topic i think that's very valuable
because when you have that buy-in to what you're doing and what you're saying it is a lot more
impactful so let's talk about what dopamine actually does because there's a lot of misconceptions
about this what dopamine actually is dopamine is not the pleasure chemical that's serotonin
dopamine is the wanting chemical it's released in anticipation of a reward not when you actually
get the reward so dopamine is anticipation of the payoff which is serotonin and so that's what
drives seeking behavior so when you get a little hit of dopamine like you know that ben and jerry's
that i have in the freezer sound really good right now your brain triggers that anticipation of
eating that ice cream and what it's in anticipation of is that pleasure chemical which is serotonin
so this key insight here is that dopamine makes you want to take action to get the thing it the
craving it's the desire it's the compulsion also this is going to blow your mind now i need to just
give a quick disclaimer here i'm not a psychologist i'm not a therapist i'm not your therapist i might
be your business therapist at times but for my adhd girlies me i'm one of you adhd is associated
with dopamine dysregulation now it's definitely more complex than just a deficiency but what's
actually happening is you have lower dopamine activity people with adhd have lower levels of
dopamine receptors and dopamine transporters in certain brain regions particularly the reward
and motivation centers and so that impaired reward processing what's happening is the
dopamine reward system doesn't fire as strongly which is why people with adhd struggle with motivation
for boring tasks that aren't going to give them enough dopamine we tend to seek high stimulation
activities because we need more dopamine hits we have trouble with delayed gratification we
hyper focus and hyper fixate on things that are stimulating so these are these are your special
interest this is me with my crocheting because something about that just scratches my brain
just right and so that seeking behavior because baseline dopamine is lower people with adhd are
constantly seeking that novelty and stimulation and dopamine hits because new things are exciting
but we lose interest really quickly and routine tasks feel impossible we tend to have trouble
with transitions and like getting started doing new things and we tend to interrupt tasks to
check our phone or start something new and also here's another big one we tend to thrive in
a high pressure situation because that adrenaline and that dopamine surge makes our brain just light
up and so why that matters for your content is that if your content is triggering dopamine through
those anticipation loops the symptom recognition the gap identification the future pacing we're
going to talk about all of this it's especially powerful for people with adhd which i feel like a
lot of business owners are there's a connection there because our brains are desperately seeking
that next dopamine hit okay so the the key thing here once again is that dopamine makes you want
to take action to get the thing and so it's that craving that drives the compulsion and so you know
this is why people binge watch shows we refresh our phone obsessively and we can't stop scrolling
social media it's the anticipation of the next thing the next video that's what drives the behavior
and so how this applies to your content is that if your content creates anticipation for a result
that you want dopamine is released to them and that dopamine is what makes them crave more of your
content it makes them take action they go to your profile they binge they follow they engage and then
they take the macro action they actually buy and so what triggers don't mean in your content showing
someone a problem they have so symptom recognition showing them the gap between where they are and
where they want to be future pacing painting a very vivid picture of the outcome that they want
demonstrating that the outcome is possible for them so proof and authority and creating
anticipation that they can have that outcome when you do those things in your content you are triggering
dopamine and when you trigger dopamine people are activated they take action and so there's quick
neuroscience refresher here because i know i talk about this a lot but i want to make sure we're all
on the same page your brain makes decisions in three phases this happens in three different
layers of the brain the primal brain which is survival threat detection reward seeking etc the
emotional brain phase two this is where feelings memories desire attachment social connection
those things are happening in that part of the brain and then there's the rational brain which
is logic justification post-decision rationalization and so the primal brain is where dopamine starts
because the primal brain is constantly scanning what's in it for me is this a threat or is this a
reward do i need to pay attention to this can i ignore it it's processing 11 million bits of
information per second and only 40 bits of that information turned into conscious thought so your
primal brain is acting as a filter it very selfish it's survival focused and it's looking for ways
to avoid pain or gain pleasure that is what it's scanning for and so if your content doesn't signal
to them that this is relevant to your survival this is relevant to your success it doesn't get
through it gets filtered out and so how do we activate the primal brain then you connect with
symptoms so you're mirroring back what they're experiencing so their struggle that they are able
to recognize themselves in that that self-identification that i talk about you speak to gaps and mistakes
so you show the discrepancy between where they are and where they want to be this triggers the
primal brain's reward-seeking system and the brain goes oh this person understands my problem
they might have the solution i need to pay attention and that's when the dopamine starts to
release that is the point in which they stop scrolling they engage and they go over to your
profile and to trigger each of these decision-making phases in the brain those are those eight buying
triggers that i'm talking about another way to do this is by with the primal brain is by speaking
to your villain so you're providing contrast to the brain so it understands how you're different
and your difference is then attached to well since this person does things differently this might be
the thing that will work and so that's how you're able to break through into the conscious mind and
at that point where they're like person might have the thing that will work they are then in
anticipation of solving that problem which is where the dopamine is released now speaking to
gaps and mistakes i will say i typically talk about that in terms of you know activating the
emotional center of the brain which that is a piece of it but i need you to understand that all of
this is much more nuanced and so different triggers can you know be supportive of different parts of
the brain but once again we want to make sure that we're hitting on all eight because those are the
things that the brain is taking into consideration when it's going to make a purchase decision and
subsequently you are then triggering dopamine throughout that process opening anticipation
loops that are connected directly to your offer now we need to talk about the difference between
anticipation loop and curiosity loops because this is a really important distinction that i want to
make because i see people doing this wrong all the time so curiosity loop rate intrigue but they
don't typically tie to your offer it's those like wait for it cliffhangers that like kind of lead
nowhere and so it gets a lot of views but it doesn't create buyers so this is like i'm going to tell
you the one thing that changed in my business and then they kind of like tell you a story but it
doesn't connect back to your specific symptom what you're experiencing what the discrepancy is what
the shifts were it doesn't typically fully highlight all of those areas and so you're just creating
curiosity for curiosity sake you're not actually triggering that anticipation and anticipation
loop rates desire for a specific outcome that's tied to your offer so that opens a loop that can
only be closed by taking action following DMing buying against views and it creates buyers and so
it's like here's the gap in your content that's costing you sales that the difference in framing
there anticipation loops trigger dopamine because they create a gap between the current state and
the desired state and so the brain anticipates closing that loop and so dopamine is released
and that person is now motivated to take action to close the loop so your anticipation loop must be
tied to your offer it's not just like here's this thing that i learned here's the gap you have here's
the outcome that you want and here's how to get it that's the difference and so curiosity
those get a lot of views they go super viral but they don't create buyers whereas anticipation loops
you're getting both now the only problem with that that will actually drive your views down
is that when your content actually work though people are leaving the platform the platform is
then disincentivized to show your content more people because they make money by keeping people
on the platform so they can show them ads so when your content actually work you're going to get
less views because the algorithm is tracking that people are leaving the platform after watching
your content so now that you understand what dopamine is how it works and the difference
between these different types of anticipation versus curiosity let's talk about how to actually
create that content that triggers dopamine so like i told you there are specific buying triggers
that when you're using your content they open anticipation loops that's part of the intention
of giving them that information so i'm going to break down four of them for you in this episode
so the first trigger is connecting with symptoms this activates the primal brain and what this
trigger does is it mirrors their lived experience so they're able to self identify they're like oh
that's me it activates the primal brain scanning system it opens that first anticipation loop which
is like this person get me they might have the solution and so when someone sees their exact
struggle described it creates relief anticipation relief of that symptom or like finally somebody
understands maybe they can help me fix this and their brain starts anticipating the pain going
away that's what triggers the dopamine is the anticipation they're activated and what this
looks like in content so let me give you an example for my own content i i talked about this in the
last episode maybe it was the episode before i don't know but i talked about an email i sent out
about doing a 100k day and i opened with like sometimes i have to check myself when i'm disappointed
that we only did 100k in sales that day now that symptom connect with what every level because
whether you're at 10k months or 100k months you can relate to that feeling of like it's never
enough the constant moving the goalpost and that recognition triggers dopamine now this is
really a brilliant way of working that in because not only are we triggering the symptom of like
experiencing that moving the goalpost feeling but then we're also subliminally infusing a piece of
authority and aspiration of the 100k day while at the same time giving that vulnerability of the
authority trifacta where it's like this is a flaw that i have and i'm kind of embarrassed by it and
so the key the leading trigger here is connecting with symptoms but i would say this is like this is
advanced level like eggbird mode like copywriting because it's doing like three things within one
sentence and so we have a lot of control over how people behave when we're writing content at this
level but let me give you another example so this is content that we would write for a client let's
say they're a business coach that works with wedding professionals for example and so something
that we might script out is like you're lying awake at 2am wondering if you underpriced the
whatever wedding you are refreshing your inbox hoping that inquiry from last week is going to
turn into a deposit you're comparing yourself to the planner who just posted her dream client while
you're stuck with people that are trying to bargain with you for the prize and they want champagne
service on a beer budget symptom after symptom after symptom there's no solution yet we're just
mirroring and they can see themselves in that story which activate the primal brain they're going
this is me keep talking give me give me what are you gonna give me can you solve that problem for
me and so the mistake people make is that they jump through the solution too fast they don't sit
with the symptom long enough and that symptom recognition is what gets people to stop scrolling
and pay attention and without that the anticipation loop never opens which is why people are not
activated by your content that's what that actually means and so this is what was missing
from my client content previously the one that i mentioned in the beginning different industry
than the example i just gave but different industry went from 12 to around 100 000 and
her content was about like general struggles like you're struggling to grow your social media weren't
hitting on specific daily pain wasn't really painting that picture and so when we added that
more symptom heavy content profile visits increased by 3% profile visit actually tripled in the first
two weeks because people were finally seeing themselves in her content was opening that
anticipation loop and people were then going to we were seeing an influx of traffic to her
profile so we were able to increase the conversion rate on her content for profile conversion that's
a super important metric to track i'm going to be doing another episode about metrics that you
should be calculating on your social media that instagram like isn't going to give you but when
we added that content we saw an influx of profile traffic which then contributed to an influx in
lead flow and in sale because people came over to her profile they were then able to binge her content
and so because more people were at the profile more people were binging content we had a higher
percentage of them then go to the link in the bio and submit an application because we were
triggering that anticipation the second trigger that does this really well is speaking to gaps
and mistakes so this is showing that discrepancy it really just illustrates the gap between where
they are and where they want to be it's productive discomfort and so when they realize that something
is wrong it opens an anticipation loop they're like i need to fix this how do i close the gap
and the brain hates discrepancies when you show someone a gap their brain immediately starts
seeking the solution and that's part of that aha moment that you get when someone's like hey
you think that this is your issue but actually this and i don't know why no one's ever told you
that when you see those videos and you're like oh wait a minute that dopamine hit that you just
that's the exact feeling that i'm talking about creating for your and so when the brain starts
actively seeking out that solution that seeking behavior is driven by dopamine i see the problem
i anticipate solving it where's the solution and so what that looks like in your content
so i've a post i haven't talked about before this this like just randomly came out came out of my
mouth as i was recording a podcast episode and i realized that this would be such a smart piece
of content would be such a good hook because it has that novelty and that like wait what and so
this post was again leveraging that productive discomfort was the toilet paper brand post that
i made it was like you've turned yourself into the toilet paper of your industry and that shows
the gap you are a commodity i go on to say like you're not a category of one the discrepancy is
very clear like you're competing on price instead of value so that anticipation loop opens and they're
like how do i stop being toilet paper i need to fix this here's another example this is content that
we would write for one of our clients use the sales coach and so it would probably be something
like you're educating your audience but you're not activating them and so like this is a more
sales centered post that i would make for myself is like you're educating your audience but you're
not activating them because you're giving them information you're not giving their brain the
contrast it needs to choose you and so that's why they're asking discount this is why they're talking
to a few other people you've made yourself interchangeable i was able to identify the gap
for them which was education without differentiation discrepancy so they think they're doing great
they're posting value because everyone tells them what to do but then the result is saying otherwise
so low conversion and then anticipation loop what i did to open that is like what's the fix how do
i differentiate myself then and so then they're going to go over to my profile and binge my content
which that post was converting really well over to my profile it has a super high conversion rate
so we reached about 11 000 people and we had 1,870 people go over to my profile so that piece of
content is converting at 17 percent which is really great that's well above the industry standard
which is five percent so you can see that that piece of content had exactly its intended impact
it created that identification it opened that anticipation loop which brought people to my
profile and so that's one of those metrics there that we would be looking at to really measure
if this post had the intended impact and so when people are like well how do i know if every single
post is doing what it's supposed to do like i can't see exactly what post somebody clicked on
before they sent me an application and you're right well to a degree because this is a tangent
but if you're using money chat and you're doing ctas on every single post or if you have different
e-word specifically for all the different posts that you're using ctas on then you can get a
lot of attribution tracking there if you have utm links embedded in the link that goes out to your
follower when it sends them that automated dm so you can get more attribution like that and you're
still going to run into the same things that you have with ads where like if somebody sees an ad
but then they click to your profile and they binge some of your content and then they go to your bio
they're not necessarily going to always know which ad they came from like if they go click the link in
your bio then they're going to come in as somebody who on that utm link as somebody who came from your
bio and so even with ad to a certain degree you'll have that huge attribute tracking and so you have
arguably a similar level of attribution with organic content if you use money chat strategically
and you have separate utm links for every workflow but i digress another way besides that attribution
you know trying to get first and last attribution tracking another great way to gather data on the
individual post level is to see if it's causing people to take the action that based on the
neuropsychology they should be taking so with that post for example we knew that it was a
tracking to gaps and mistakes it was also hitting home to a specific symptom and so with that combination
of triggers embedded in that video we knew that the thing that should have been happening
is activation that would bring people over to my profile and so just looking at those metrics we
can calculate okay so 17% of the people who saw this video came over to my profile so we can see
that this video is having the intended impact and this is where having a data analyst on our team
really comes into handy because i typically would then not be you know logically taking it a step
further where it's like okay we're seeing that this post had a really high conversion rate over
to my profile so within that day what were the applications that came in so that we can also
over time kind of massage that data and understand that you know these pieces of content that were
converting really well and the day they were posted we had this influx of conversions so that's
something that you know if that video outperforms other symptoms videos that we've made on other
symptoms then that's going to be an indicator that we need to double down on speaking to that
symptom and highlighting that gap or even take the podcast episode i just did about the COVID
pre-norm which is like if you built your business in 2020 you potentially didn't build a real business
you build a business that really just worked in easy mode and now you're seeing what running
a business in the real world is like and so that episode and you can see how this can be adapted
even for longer form content that episode was over an hour long but it was specifically hitting
home to the gap and the specific symptom and highlighting that discrepancy between where they
are and what they're doing that was the intended impact of that podcast and so what we can see
is like when we posted that podcast episode if we also saw an influx of views on all of our other
podcast episode within that same day then depending on what the average is for consumption on a daily
basis and when episodes are released we can see if this is triggering that binging behavior more
than other videos and so this is where looking at that data and kind of cross referencing is going
to come into play and again like this isn't something that i would have just figured out on
my own because we have a data scientist on our team which is also a huge win for clients and the
way that we're able to make data driven decisions for clients because what most people mean when
they're talking about making data driven decisions is they're like well this video got more views and
more comments so obviously people liked it let's do it again like that's not what making data driven
decisions really looks like and so you can see where this kind of deeper nuanced level of making
those decisions of knowing what data to analyze and kind of stack up against each other is a lot
more impactful and most people just don't have the education to be able to do that so again with
that podcast episode the gap was their business model doesn't work anymore the discrepancy is
they thought they'd figured it out but now the results are dropping and that anticipation loop
that's being opened is like what do i need to change how do i adapt but what most people do
is they only show that gap like in the sales conversations but that gap needs to be in the
content otherwise people don't realize they have a problem with solving so your conversion is going
to be a lot lower even if you have a really high close rate if you have less people coming through
the pipeline because you're not triggering that activation within your content then you're not
going to make as much money as you could be even though you're likely reaching enough people on social
media to be making that happen and again like this was something that was missing from that
clients content i talked about she was like teaching solutions without showing the discrepancy and so
that that's where i talk about like educational content does not convert because when you're just
giving solution when you're saying here's three tips for how to do this then you're not showing
the discrepancy and so then we added in that gap and like mistake focus content dm increased increase
significantly and the quality got a lot better because people realized they had a problem that
they didn't know that they had the next chapter i want to talk about is narrating desired outcome
which this is huge this is future pacing and what this trigger does is it paints a vivid picture of
what their life or their business looks like after working with you so it creates anticipation and
desire it opens an anticipation loop like i want that how do i get it and this can also play into
that authority trifecta when you are able to future pace what that life could look like through the
lens of your own life looking like that then that also leans into that authority trigger as well
and so why does this trigger dopamine the brain can't tell the difference between imagining
something and experiencing it so when you paint the outcome super vividly mere neurons fire the
brain pre experiences that win and so the dopamine is released in anticipation of achieving it and
so let me give you an example of my own content one of my videos that did really well um that was a
year old like text on screen video the copy was and i'm sharing the format because it's not just
talking videos it's not just written content you can apply these triggers to the content that you're
already creating and just reframe it a little bit to make it be more activating so like an example
of this was like pob you spend one hour a week on content and generate five million dollars in
pipeline value in a single month so at future paces the outcome that they want time freedom plus
revenue and their brain anticipates what would my life look like with that so the dopamine is
triggered they want to know how to get there and so something i might say in like another example
is your content like your calendar is full but it's full of dream clients they pay in full they
implement everything you send them everything you tell them to do they send you referrals without
you even asking you don't have to chase leads they're coming to you you wake up to dms ready to sign
or all of my sales calls are 20 minutes long not mine not the teams the teams are longer you
close 60 of them because they're pre sold before they ever talk to you so that future pacing in
detail is like this is what my life looked like this is what your life could look like and it's
not just more money it's the daily experience of having it and again the brain anticipates that
reality the dopamine drives them to then take action to actually get it and what most people do
wrong is they talk about the features you're going to get weekly calls and templates instead of outcome
showcasing waking up to sales notification without having to do discovery calls whatever that looks
like for you because the features don't trigger dopamine the outcome the anticipation of getting
it is what does and the client i was talking about she was doing this wrong too she'd talk about like
you'll grow your business but then she wasn't painting what that actually looks like so we added
that more vivid future pacing and applications increased because people could then see themselves
in that reality this is one of the pieces of the authority trifecta as well so that's another
trigger is elevating your authority which is really just best done by walking your top and
so what this trigger does is it shows the outcome is possible by pulling back the curtain on your
process on your result and it proves that you can deliver what you're promising and it opens the
anticipation loop of like if she can do it i can do it how did she do that and so why that
triggers dopamine is because social proof and demonstration reduced perceived risk and when
risk goes down anticipation of success goes up and so the brain thinks this is achievable
i can have this and dopamine is released in anticipation of that win and so what it looks
like in content like okay i have that email that i sent out the one where i broke down like 360k
in applications and i didn't just say like email marketing work i was like i i have an email that
went out and it was about like creating like 720 000 in applications just from my email marketing
in a single month and i didn't say like email marketing works i showed the email and like
examples i'd use i tied it to why it worked i tied it to the authority trifecta and so
pulling back the curtain really shows demonstrating authority demonstrating that mastery and that
anticipation loop is like well if she can generate 720 000 and leaves just from email marketing what
could i do or another example of this is like the ice cream story email that i just sent out and i
told the story of like when i was rodeo cleaning and getting like drawing a really lame question
my last competition and then i broke down how my answer hit all three legs of the authority
trifecta and i gave them kind of like the spin practice to exercise it on their own stories
and so it's me walking my talk i'm not just teaching the trifecta i'm showing how i used it
and that opens that anticipation loop like i can do this with my own story if she can do this on
stage with 35 seconds to figure it out then i can definitely do this in my content and so it's like
let me try so here's another example this is content that we'd potentially write for like a
fitness coach so it's like what i ate yesterday to stay in a quality deficit without feeling
like i was starving and then you give them the detailed like meal breakdown the photos
i'm a weeks into a cut and i'm not measurable here's why meeting food i actually like i'm
timing my meals statistically i'm not restricting entire food group like you don't have to suffer
to get results you need this type of system so you're demonstrating the process what she ate how
she actually structured improving it's possible she's doing it and she's not suffering so that
opens that anticipation loop of like well i want to eat like that and get results how do i how
do i build that system and what most people do wrong is they claim like authority they're like
i'm an expert but they can't really demonstrate it or they show results with no context income it's
like it's giving income screenshots it's giving walking ftc violation and so that demonstration
without the how doesn't trigger dopamine it just create skepticism and resentment typically and
again my client before what she was doing was like leaving results and just like giving screenshots
of people getting thousands of followers but then when we had her pull back the curtain on her process
applications increased because people trusted that she could deliver that outcome now i wouldn't
be remiss to talk about dopamine and not hit home to response conditioning we got to talk about the
micro commitment ladder and how dopamine really creates that response of purchasing and so here's
what happens in your brain when your content triggers dopamine right people don't just consume
one piece of content and then buy that's typically not how it works it can be that way for long form
content especially if you have multiple triggers embedded within that video or that podcast whatever
my podcast is a good example of this i have people say all the time that like i love your
broadcast i binge the podcast i actually saw you post about the podcast on your story and i
listened to the episode and here i am applying because that was what i needed to hear it happens
all the time and so with long form content that said when you're doing short form content they
really go more on a journey of micro commitments and each micro commitment primes them for the
macro commitment which is the sale so what this micro commitment ladder looks like like visibly
and again you can kind of spot check some of this just with your notifications on a daily basis to
get a pulse check for how how this is happening again there's metrics we want to calculate much
more specific ways but just to kind of just get a little pulse check on this here's what i want
you to be kind of seeing so people obviously find a video of yours that's how they're engaging so
they watch your video or they read your post and that is actually micro commitment number one giving
them enough dopamine that they get more dopamine from staying than they get from leaving staying
is a micro commitment number two is like they like the video so that's the second micro commitment
or potentially they share it or they save it that's that third micro commitment i want to be
associated with it number four they then go to your profile so that's where we were talking about
that 70 percent version rate on that video of people seeing the content and then going to profile
and that's where i say like you don't have to reach a ton of people to make a ton of money let's do
that math really quick let's say you only reach a thousand people with your video if your video is
converting like mine at 17 percent then that's 170 people that then go to your profile from one video
and so i think that you are bound to be able to make let's see if you have 170 people go to your
profile now granted that's a very very high conversion rate that's what my content does
on average for clients it's between five and ten percent but let's say you even have a fraction
of that let's go on the low side let's say you get a thousand views on a video and your content only
converts at let's do kind of in between that average let's do seven percent okay so that 30 people
that go over to your profile 30 people land on your profile and your profile converts at let's say
it converts at five percent that's two people that you should have DMing you or potentially
applying so if you were getting two applications from every video that you post let's say you post
once a day if you're getting two applications from every post then you're getting 60 applications a
month which at an average of a 75 show rate do a 50 close rate that's still 22 new clients and 22
new clients let's say the one client that I'm thinking of in particular 22 times and then her
average sale value is five thousand so that's a hundred and ten thousand dollars in sales
that she should be tracking now if show rate is a little bit lower let's say it drops down to 50
percent then out of those 60 calls that we had booked if we only have 50 percent of them show so
that's 30 live calls and then we only have let's say 40 percent of those close that's still 12 sales
which at five thousand dollars is 60 thousand dollars in sales so once again views not the issue
here conversion is so when they go to your profile you get that fourth micro commitment when they
binge your content you see them consuming because they are liking a bunch of your different posts
all within a shorter time period they're consuming lots of pieces of content that's a fifth micro
commitment they follow you sixth micro commitment seven they click the link in your bio that's the
seventh micro commitment I want to learn more about this or they DM you that's another micro
commitment they show up to the sales call that's the ninth micro commitment and then by the time
you get to number 10 they're buying from you because you've conditioned them to saying yes to you
because every small yes makes the nest next yes easier and so it's called response conditioning
like I said and that brain builds momentum towards the final action and so by the time they get to
the sales call they've already said yes nine times and so that sale is really just the natural next
step and so what was happening with one of my clients is people were finding her content they
were binging 10 to 15 pieces in a row making micro commitments following her another micro
commitment DMing applying next micro commitment showing up to the call pre sold because now we've
already built the yes letter through that dopamine driven content consumption there and so why does
binging content prime people to buy here's the neuroscience behind this when someone binges
your content they're getting repeated dopamine hits and so each post that resonates equals
another small dopamine release and then the brain starts associating gore brand with reward this
creates a positive feedback loop which means more content of this equals more reward and so by the
time they've consumed 10 15 pieces of your content they feel like they know you you've created that
parasocial relationship with them they feel like they know you they trust you because you've demonstrated
authority repeatedly they see themselves in you because you've mirrored their symptoms back to
them they've been able to self identify and again get that dopamine hit they want the outcome that
you're painting because you've future-paced it repeatedly at that point they're ready to buy
and so this is why my clients calls turned into more objection-free calls because people weren't
showing up hold they'd already consumed hours of her content it's like so if you're familiar with
kind of what the og business people do like big thing is vs else right having a video sale level
letter in your bio that's basically pitching them on why they should book the the sales call
your organic content now is the vs l and it's a lot more powerful because rather than people
not seeing it until you've marketed them to the point that you've gotten them to click that link
then they don't even see that vs l until they get there to the link in your bio so at that point
they're in the justification phase and then you're having to do all of that selling within
the sales process itself rather than doing all of that prior to them ever even getting to the link
in your bio your content is the vs l now and so her sales calls got a lot shorter they went from
like 60 to 90 minutes down to like half hours her close rate went up from 30 to around 65
percent because people were just resold and the mistake that most people make is that they create
one-off content that doesn't really lead people deeper and so there's no content ecosystem to
binge there's no clear next step after consuming one piece and so people watch one real and they're
like cool and move on no micro commitment equals no momentum which means no macro commitment in
the end so i mentioned some of these examples but i want to give you some more in-depth examples of
the content and triggers dopamine so that you can see this in action so i did that 100k day email
which was the vulnerability aspiration having a lesson and so i opened with like i have to be
honest with you sometimes i have to talk myself when i'm disappointed that we only did 100k in
sales that day and i went on to unpack that moving the goalpost problem then i tied it to a lesson
more about leadership and then i offered the audit and so why does that trigger dopamine because i
had that symptom connection anyone who said a milestone and immediately fell behind relates
to this there's that primal brain that's me she gets it the anticipation loops open how does she
handle this there's the gap identification the gap is your desensitize your own own success but also
you still do want more and here's the gap to why you're not getting that so i opened multiple dopamine
loops within the brain they're like i want to stop this how do i do that future pacing so there's
that implied outcome you can have big wins and celebrate them there's the aspiration the fact
that we're doing 100k days and has the self-awareness to like check yourself set a dissipation loop and
then i want that level of success and that level of balance so there's that authority demonstration
doing 100k days that's the proof we're learning we're teaching the lesson from experience walking
your talk if she can do it i can learn from her and the result was over 360 thousand dollars in
applications from just that one email because it hit multiple dopamine triggers in that sequence it
activated people that's what it did the other example i mentioned the toilet paper brand post
hitting on that villain hitting on the gaps mistakes having that controversy element you've
turned yourself into toilet paper of your industry that's a lack of differentiation skills i was
explaining commodity equals price competition so people were able to see themselves they're getting
those objections that i mentioned i showed why people ask for discounts why they're shopping
around and then i ended with like your content needs a villain not more information and so
why does that trigger dopamine you have the symptom connection so if you're getting price
objections that resonates immediately primal brain that's why this is happening gap identification
the gap is you're interchangeable the discrepancy is that you think you're providing value but you're
not standing out and then there's the anticipation loop how do i become a category of one there's
controversy in positions against the generic educational content so it creates contrast you
need a villain not more tips anticipation loop what's my villain how do i use it and the result is
people who relate they save that post and they go to your profile to see how to fix it and so they
consume more content more micro commitments more response conditioning they eventually then dm or
apply the other example that i gave the ice cream story email so vulnerability authority teaching
moment i led i told the full story about turning that softball caution into a winning answer and
i broke down exactly how it hit the authority trifecta i gave them a framework practice in
their own stories so why is that triggered dopamine we have the symptom connection most people think
their personal stories are relevant to their business the story shows them wait my results are
like asset really that i could use primal brain i've been ignoring this need to pay attention
there's the gap identification the gap is they have valuable stories that they're not using the
discrepancy is their creating generic content with education when they have unique stories the
anticipation loop is like what stories do i have how do i use them authority demonstration so i
showed them how to spin any story strategically i gave them an exercise to practice walking the
talk i'm not just saying use your stories i'm showing how future pacing so implied outcome
you can turn any story into authority building content aspiration you can be memorable and
differentiated like i was on that stage anticipation loop i want to use my stories to stand out and
the result is like people try it that's a micro commitment they get that payoff of some serotonin
when they get the result and they realize that they probably need help positioning their stories so
that gap widens and then they book the audit or they dm so how can you audit your content for these
dopamine triggers and now that you understand what the dopamine is how it works the triggers
that activate it you need to figure out if you're doing this or not and then you need to either
figure out how to do it or let me help you so step one i want you to pull up your last like 10 to 20
posts look at your feed or your reels i don't care put them into a doc and ask yourself five
questions for each post okay does this connect with a specific symptom so is it mirroring their
lived experience would they read it and think oh that's me or is it kind of generic kind of land
question two does this show a gap or a mistake does it reveal discrepancy between where they are
and where they want to be does it create protective discomfort or does it just provide information
with no tension the next question does this paint a desired outcome does it future pace what their
life or their business whatever is going to look like after is it specific and vivid or is it vague
like you'll make more money okay great does this demonstrate authority am i showing my process my
results my proof am i walking my talk or am i just claiming expertise without the demonstration
and then does this open an anticipation loop tied to my offer does it create a desire to take the
next step to follow to the end to apply is there a clear path from this content to working with me
and then i want you to score each post so five out of five means you hit all of those which
you're not going to do in every single post but you can kind of get a feel for how many you're
getting zero out of five obviously you didn't hit any so then i want you to look at the pattern
if most of your posts are like zero or two out of five why your content isn't converting you're
educating but you're not activating you're not triggering that dopamine so what should you do
about this option one by all means feel free to rebuild your content strategy yourself use the
triggers we just covered take those map out a content plan that hits all of them across your
post test it for 30 days track the results option two you can have us audit it for you we'll review
your content for free we'll show you exactly which triggers are missing and we'll write you five
pieces of content that will fill one of those gaps and trigger that dopamine within your content
and we'll walk you through how to implement it on a call again for free what most people choose
option two because seeing it applied to your business is different than understanding it
conceptually and so we'll show you you know here's where you're losing people here's the exact
gap here's what to say instead we'll write that content for you so you can post it you can see
results immediately and for most people after we do that they're like okay lovely please go ahead
and do that and we'll walk you through what it's like to work with us if not then by all means take
your audit and your content and run with it so let me take you back through this client story one
more time but now with all of the context that we just covered so her content was super educational
it was valuable it was really consistent she was talking about strategy tips and tricks how to grow
your instagram how to get more engagement how to get more views and people love her content they
were really engaging a lot but conversion was terrible and she was reaching like millions of
people per month and so the specific apps were number one we are missing that symptom connection
her content was really about more generic issues not like specific better than experiencing in the
moment she was missing that gap identification so she was just giving solutions like here's
three tips for how to do this without showing the discrepancy she had super weak faith future pacing
she said like this will help you grow your business you can make money from instagram you can get this
many views but she wouldn't paint what that actually looks like so there was that authority without
demonstration and she was claiming results and showing a lot of screenshots like i said of people
getting lots of followers but then wasn't really showing like what shifts she was helping people
make and what that process actually looks like to make those shifts and so what was happening is
people were consuming her content but then they didn't take any action dm inquiries were very low
quality she had tire kickers sales were exhaust was exhausting because she was convincing people
and the revenue showed it like only $12,000 a month offer million of views and like i think it was
month two or three where they went from 12 to 30 and kind of like kind of broke the business a little
and then from it was like 30 to 50 to 100 like it was just so fast just doubling doubling doubling
and so what we did was we created content that was mirroring her audience's exactly experiencing
so instead of like you're struggling to grow it was like you wake up you're refreshing your dm
there's no new notification you're refreshing your email hoping that that lead from last week
is going to respond to you you see your competitor posting about welcoming new clients while people
are literally ghosting you or not messaging you at all symptoms very specific and so what this did
was it activated primal brain so people started commenting like are you in my head profile visits
increased like i said they tripled in the first two weeks phase two so we added that gap focus
content so we wrote content that really showed the discrepancy you think you need more followers
you actually need this you think your content isn't valuable enough your content is fine you're
just not doing this here's what's missing and so what that did was it created that productive
discomfort people realized they had a problem that they didn't know they had dm increase increased
and they were much higher quality and then phase three we added a lot of vivid future pacing so
instead of like you're making more money you'll wake up to dms from people that are ready to buy
you check your phone and you gained 300 new followers overnight those types of specific details so
people could see themselves in that reality which increased conversion another big thing was that
authority demonstration so we really had her pull back the curtain on her process here's what i'm
doing with my clients in week one here's the exact framework here's why it worked walking her talk not
just showing the result and what that did was it reduced the perceived risk so people trusted
that she'd be able to deliver and so people weren't ghosting her anymore and like i said that the
revenue increase was super very fast the dm increase tripled the quality improved and we had so many
leads and sales coming in that we then had to hire a sales team very quickly and get them ramped and
so the next issue was then sales and fixing our sales process so that we could increase close rate
close rate went from about 30 to 65 in 60 days so that was awesome and people were finding her
content and binging and we could see it in her notifications getting a ton of likes and engagement
in a row from on different videos from the same person multiple comments story views they'd then
apply the same day show up to calls being like i've watched all your content like i just have a
couple questions and they're ready to start and so because her content was triggering that dopamine
every post was opening an anticipation loop people consumed more content there were those
micro commitments and by the time they got to the call they'd already said yes eight times they were
respond condition to say yes to us and then the sale was just the next step and so i just need
you to know that your content probably isn't boring per se it's just not activating that dopamine
you're probably giving a lot of value but without the dopamine there's no desire there's no obsession
so there's no compulsion to act and so dopamine is triggered it's by that anticipation the activation
of dopamine and that doesn't happen by just giving them information you have to connect with symptoms
activate the primal brain create the discrepancy paint the outcomes future pace walk your talk
each of those opens an anticipation loop tied to your offer and then when people consume that dopamine
triggering content they go on a journey they watch they like they go to your profile they binge
they follow they DM you they buy and every small gas primes them for that macro commitment so by the
time they get to the sales call they're already sold so go look at those last 10 to 10 to 20 posts
ask yourself those questions do that audit and my invitation to you is that if you're still not
sure if your content is triggering that dopamine which honestly if you're not getting the amount
of applications that we talked about like if you go through and do those calculations you
realize that your content is not converting at like five to ten percent profile isn't converting
at at least five percent will audit your content you would be one of the people to need to book
this audit so like i said we'll show you what's missing we'll write five pieces of content again
it's completely free five pieces of content that trigger that dopamine and you'll post them and
you'll see the difference immediately so the link to that audit is in the show notes i really mean
this it's free i know it sounds too good to be true we really do this we really review your content
we really create like a three page document that walks you through what you're missing write the
content for you and we walk you through it on a call together like i said if what we uncover is
something that we can help with rate we'll walk you through what that looks like if not rate you
walk away with audit and some content to post so the difference between content that gets views
and content that gets buyers is dopamine is that activation and so your audience's brain is either
anticipating working with you or it's not and if it's not then they're not going to click to your
profile and you won't see those metrics across your process so that's all for this episode
thanks for being here i'll see you in the next one bye
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Client initially struggled with low conversion rates despite decent engagement.
Changes in content strategy led to a significant increase in monthly revenue.
Importance of triggering dopamine in content to drive audience obsession and purchasing behavior.
Summary:
The transcription discusses a client who faced challenges with low conversion rates despite engaging content. By adjusting the content strategy to trigger dopamine in the audience's brain, the client experienced a substantial increase in monthly revenue, reaching $80,000 to $100,000. The focus shifted to creating content that activates dopamine, leading to audience obsession and easier conversions.
The text emphasizes the significance of providing the necessary information in content to guide the audience towards making a purchase decision. By understanding the neuroscience behind triggering dopamine, the client's content began to attract more engaged and ready-to-buy customers. The role of anticipation loops, micro commitments, and addressing objections through content is highlighted as key elements in enhancing conversion rates.
Ultimately, the text stresses that by activating dopamine in content, businesses can drive desired actions from their audience and streamline the sales process.
FAQs
You need to trigger dopamine in your content by creating anticipation loops, showing symptom recognition, highlighting the gap between where your audience is and where they want to be, providing proof of the desired outcome, and creating anticipation for that outcome.
Dopamine is the brain's reward chemical that drives seeking behavior and compels action. Activating dopamine in your content makes your audience crave more, engage with your profile, and ultimately make purchases.
Low-quality DM inquiries, high objections during sales calls, lack of content bingeing by viewers, and poor conversion rates despite high traffic are signs that your content is not activating the right brain responses.
Dopamine makes people crave action and drives behavior by creating anticipation for rewards. Understanding how to trigger dopamine in your content can lead to increased engagement and conversions.
Dopamine is often misunderstood as the pleasure chemical, but it actually functions as the wanting chemical that anticipates rewards. It plays a key role in driving motivation and behavior.
Individuals with ADHD often seek higher stimulation activities to boost dopamine levels, making content that triggers dopamine through anticipation loops especially effective in engaging this audience.
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