The CIA, the Soviet Union, and a Missing UFO Blueprint

A package set unopened on Natalia's kitchen table in Boston. It was from Natalia's father, her tired plumber, living in Kazakistan. A few weeks later, she learned her father passed away. She finally opened the box. It was full of pages in Russian, typed and handwritten. There were physics equations and complex math formulas. There were drawings and detailed schematics for advanced technology. Natalia and her husband looked over the documents, confused. The last thing the plumber did before he died, was send his family instructions for how to build UFO. Anybody who spent real time around crypto learns the same lesson eventually. The price chart is the exciting part. But it's not what decides whether a tool is worth using. That comes down to the stuff underneath, fees, spread, and how fast your bitcoin can actually move. If you're already a crypto, you probably don't need someone to explain bitcoin from scratch. What matters is the experience around it. 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The box was her father's answer to a phone call earlier that month. Natalia told her father that her son was into aerospace. Her father said he'd sent over some things that he worked on in his career. Maybe his grandson would find them interesting. About two weeks later, a DHL package showed up from Kazakhstan. He went on the kitchen table and life piled up on top of it. There were the holidays, a new move, and a stack of immigration paperwork. A couple of weeks after he died, Natalia had a dream about her father. He was young and healthy and he wore a suit. He told her he couldn't help her with her singing, then he handed her a stack of papers. So Natalia remembered to open the box. Her husband Jean read over her shoulder, but he doesn't read Russian. I always thought my father was a plumber. A plumber who wrote some scientific papers as a side gig. Then I opened the box and Jean kept asking me, "What does it say? What does it say?" And I told him, "It's a UFO. I was petrified and mesmerized at the same time." Jean isn't easily rattled. He spent most of the 1990s in the Air Force and his job was guarding nuclear weapons. After that, he worked security for energy companies around the world and did contract work for the CIA on energy security. He'd seen a lot of documents. He'd never seen anything like these. There were 119 pages, some were typed and some were handwritten in black and red and blue in green ink. Her father split them into 12 numbered works. The first one was a paper that said Einstein got relativity wrong. It was some heavy stuff. One page had a drawing of a disc with a dome in the middle. Next to it, her father wrote down the diameter of the saucer, the weight of the saucer, and where the cabin goes. He called the crew humanoids. On another page, he typed a warning in capital letters. This is technology from the 22nd century. So Jean and Natalia went to work on the pages. A friend built them a custom AI model to translate the Russian. Natalia checked every line. Some of it stumped everybody. They even sat with a Russian speaking scientist from Ukraine. But the point I want to get to, we were analyzing 10 characters, 10 words, 10 characters for over an hour, trying to figure out, you know, and all I can do is be like, I don't know. As the translation came together, so did the machine. The first page in the stack is pink, it's a Soviet cover sheet. It went on top of classified material, and it's color matched a security badge. The first page of every work carries a rust stain from a steel paperclip. The craft is a flat disc about 100 feet across and 10 feet thick with a dome at the center. The hole is solid silicon, it weighs more than 3,000 tons. There are 678,000 small coils inside the silicon, running off current over them, and the whole disc pushes against gravity. They'll hear he's set the thrust at 10 times the craft's weight, any more in the crew dies. He wrote at a build at two. You cast a titanium skeleton in one piece, set the coils in place, and pour molten silicon around them at more than 2500 degrees Fahrenheit. The coils have to be superconductors, and he listed the elements to make them from. And he reminded whoever was going to build it, that superconductors only work when they're kept extremely cold. While Yeri wrote, the UFO has no rotating parts, so it makes its electricity another way. At the center is a fusion reactor. Its power runs from a magneto hydrodynamic generator, MHD for sure. It makes electricity from hot charge gas, with nothing spinning at all. He even picked a fuel. He chose a reaction that gives off no neutrons. That way the crew needs almost no shielding. Yeah, almost is doing a lot of work in that sentence, Jake. The pilot doesn't use a wheel, or a stick, or buttons, or anything. You fly it with your mind. The Yeri wrote, then in a craft like this, a person could fly to other star systems in our galaxy in two hours. And then it collapses the space between itself and the arm, so I best describe it as moving at the speed of thought. Forget about light speed, you know, wormholes and warp drives, and any of that, it just collapses the space between it. Then there's the water. Yeri wrote that the sun's fusion makes water, and that comets are the children of the sun made of ice. That makes sense. They only come around when they need something. His reactor works the other way around. Water goes in, then steam, then plasma, then fusion. On one of those pages he left a note about a large UFO in a video clip he saw online. It was an orbit near the sun, and it was taking water from the sun to fuel its reactor. And the reactor needs magnets of its own, much bigger than the coils in the hull. The pink cover sheet holds their numbers. 32 big coils running 650 amps for a field of 16.65 Tesla. He also said who built these machines? He wrote that the super civilizations around our solar system never stopped advancing, and he wrote that civilizations are already in contact inside our galaxy and between galaxies, because they have crafts like this. And that wasn't a guess. Well, Europe based his drawings on a real spacecraft, because not only did aliens have them, so the Soviets. Halloween is supposed to be scary. Ghost demons, shadow figures at the foot of the bed, but you know what's actually terrifying? A customer who vanishes without a trace. A miss call. A voice mail nobody checks. And just like that, they're gone. Into the void, or worse, into a competitor's inbox. That's why today's show is brought to you by Quo, spelled Q-O. It's the business phone system built so you never miss a call, and more than 90,000 businesses are to use it. Quo runs on the phone and computer you already have. 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The witness's drawing was slightly often places, because it was from memory. Valeri's was perfect because he drew his from the real thing. Step 1. Decide which human is right. Step 2. Decide which humans are necessary. Yeah, it was just comparing drawings. Yeah, that's how Skynet takes over. Today it starts in crass. Tomorrow it's skulls and servitude. Then the numbers started lining up. And my logic was this shouldn't match anything, right? I should have extracted the signs and looked at it and maybe found some fringe theory. Instead, what I was finding was millions and hundreds of millions being spent on the programs, on the same science. In July, 2024, the University of Wisconsin conducted a fusion experiment. It was the first machine of its kind to hold plasma with a new type of superconducting magnet. These magnets ran at 17 Tesla. The liary wrote 16.65, that's only about 2% off. Either the liary got lucky or he's right. And it wasn't only the magnets. DARPA is the Pentagon's research agency. I've talked about them a lot. It wants an MHT drive for submarines with no moving parts. DARPA says the new superconducting magnets could make that drive 90% efficient and quiet. Then in 2025, scientists worked out that lithium, aluminum, and boron could make a superconductor. Valiere listed two of those three elements in his papers. Also, Jean found a Russian patent from October 1990 and it describes a disc-shaped craft with superconducting coils and 8 MHT converters. That's the same kind of machine Valiere used for his electricity, magnets, and charged gas with no moving parts. The craft flies in the air and in space and underwater. And its top speed is about 115,000 miles an hour. The Pentagon spent $22 million on its secret UFO program. It paid for 38 research papers on warp drive, anti-gravity, invisibility cloaks, and wormholes. The Soviets ran similar programs using hundreds of scientists. And one mysterious plumber. Jean started sending the papers to anyone who thought, "Good help." Word came back from George Nap. Back in the early 90s, I got into Russia, met with a number of their defense officials, ministry defense, and others who confirmed for me that Russia had been doing the same thing the United States had been doing that is secretly studying UFOs while publicly saying something completely different. He had a friend who was a former official at the Pentagon's UFO office. He couldn't help. David Grosh got them in a forwarded email. Still nothing. Jean even took the papers to UFO shows. Nobody could tell them where they came from. Then in August 2025, a lead came to them. Natalia got a call from Kazakhstan. It was her father's girlfriend. She knew him from childhood, and she was with him when he died. She also had the rest of his papers, and she promised to send copies. And she told Natalia something nobody in the family ever set out loud. Before Natalia was born, her parents lived in Priyoshyorsk. Priyoshyorsk is a closed military city on the edge of Sira Sagan, a Soviet missile test range. It's Russia's area 51. "How everybody's got an area 51. Cannabis is in the basement of a Timoritans." Please stop. "I'm sorry, I'm sorry." Thousands of people worked at Priyoshyorsk, but it didn't have a phone number or an address. It wasn't on any map. Civilians couldn't get within 30 miles of it, but Natalia's father could walk right in. She asked her mother about it. My mom just briefly mentioned it. She said, "Oh, he did some very strange refrigerator work there, but she never actually mentioned the name of the city. My mom was just not being very transparent. The less you know, the better you sleep as we say in Russia." "Refrigerator work, eh? Remember what superconduct is needed?" "To stay extremely cold." "And here's your refrigerator guy. The cool is coming from inside the freezer." "That's actually a pretty good point." "I like it right in please." Well, then Natalia remembered something from when she was a little girl. It was in her father's briefcase. It was a pass to the Duma, the Russian Parliament. That's like having an ID that can get you into Congress. Planners don't get free entry to Parliament, and they don't get flown from Latvia to Moscow to fix an ice maker. When Natalia's father said he was sending papers that had to do with his work, he sent the plans for UFO, not manuals for old refrigerators or plumbing tips, a UFO. Valyary Chertoyayev was turning wrenches at Priivzhursk, but not on refrigerators, on alien spacecraft, and the Soviets have been collecting them since 1945. Valyary studied aviation engineering in Regalatvia. While he was a student, the government moved him out of the dorm and into his own apartment. In the Soviet Union, that didn't happen a lot. He graduated in February 1981 and went straight to a classified posting in Priivzhursk. It's not as easy to say, as you think. Anyway, to understand what he was doing there, we have to go back to the end of World War II. In 1945, the Americans and the Soviets raced each other across Germany. They grabbed Nazi scientists, Nazi rockets, and anything the Germans left behind. Soviets came home with two recovered discs. Two years later, something crashed near Roswell, New Mexico. Stalin had his top scientists find out what it was. They told him it wasn't American, and it certainly wasn't Russian. It didn't match any craft on earth. Now they're espazon. June 19th, 1948. It was less than a year after Roswell. Radar operators at the Kvustinniya rocket range picked up something they couldn't identify. A fighter pilot near the base saw it. It was silver and shaped like a cigar. The base ordered him to attack, and the object hit him with a beam of light that blinded him. After a three-minute dogfight, the fighter and the UFO both went down. The wreckage went into underground hangars at the base. This was the Russian Roswell. Kvustinniya took in the wreckage from at least eight UFO crashes over the next 40 years. In 1956, the Soviets built Syrian Shaghan in Kazakhstan. It was another secret range in the desert, and it was huge, about the size of South Carolina. This is where the Soviet Union tested its anti-missile systems and laser weapons. Next to the range, they built Priors-York, the secret city for the people who worked there. The CIA wanted to know everything about Syrian Shaghan. One summer night in 1973, a Soviet soldier on the range looked up and saw a bright green circle in the sky. As he watched, it grew into rings of green light, one inside the other. There was no sound. A few minutes later, it was gone. That soldier left the Soviet Union and the CIA questioned him. They asked about the units, the test sites, the warheads, and the lasers. And he told him about the green light. But he had no idea what it was. But four years later, a whole city saw something. It was for the morning on September 20th, 1977, a bright star appeared near a Soviet city by the finished border and moved slowly toward the city. Then it burst open and a rays of light hung down over the streets. Witnesses said it looked like a jellyfish. "A jellyfish, Julie, I hate those guys." Why? "No brain, no heart, no face, worry to the wise. If one of them sits down at your poker table, swim as fast as you can." "I can't swim from a poker table." "Now, sure you can. When you play hold him against one of those translucent bastards, you're a fish." For 12 minutes, it sent thin beams of light down into the city. When it left, it punched a hole through the clouds and left a burning red hole. "That ain't make a cream for that." "Stop it." "Yeah." Three days later, it was on the front page of propaganda. The Soviet government couldn't laugh this one off. In 1978, the Ministry of Defense and the Academy of Sciences teamed up on a secret UFO program. They called it "Syekka." The general staff put the entire Soviet army on UFO watch across the whole country for 10 years. Every sighting went to one office at the Ministry of Defense. That year, a UFO came down right on the Syrian gun range and the debris was sent to several research facilities. And just a few years later, another UFO showed up and almost started World War III. October 4, 1982, late at night at a nuclear missile base in Ukraine. More than 100 soldiers watched seven or eight glowing objects gather into a string of lights over the base. A radio operator saw an enormous oval disc as big as a five-story building. It had three glowing sections. An officer watched a smooth, perfect saucer make a sharp and mandatory return. The UFO stayed over the base for four hours, then it split into pieces and came back together. It moved its speeds, nothing on Earth could match. Then, inside the bunker, every display on the launch panels lit up on its own. Somebody or something entered the launch codes and those missiles were aimed at the United States and now they were ready to fire. The officers at the controls couldn't shut them down, then the panels just went dark again. Colonel Boris saw Chalkalov rents yet again for the Ministry of Defense. His team flew in for Moscow and took the control panels apart. They found nothing wrong. The Ministry decided the UFO was sending a message. And remember, the opposite happened in the United States in 1967. Ten-minute man missiles suddenly shut off for no reason. I covered this in the friendship case episode. I debunked most of that story, but the Missile Failure really happened. "Where you debunked it?" "Most of it." "Of course you did. You debunked your own mother's meatloaf." It's my job. "It's a sickness. This is what it is. Somebody punched in the launch coach around his space, and you're checking if the guy gets parking validated." Through the 1980s, the UFOs kept showing up where the weapons were. In July 1989, eight soldiers at Kabustin Yar watched a disc about 15 feet across Hover over a depot. It had a dull on top. It swept the depot with a beam of light two or three times. The base sent up a fighter jet, but every time the jet got close, this just moved out of range. The soldier statements went to the KGB, and the KGB sent them to the top research institute in the Soviet space program. The Soviets weren't just watching UFOs anymore. They were studying them. On July 18, 1991, a classified research report went to Military Unit 73790. In Russian, it was knit 3, in English, thread 3. Thread 3 was about how UFOs fly. Binary's papers. One month later, hardliners tried to overthrow Gorbachev. The coup failed, and by Christmas, there was no Soviet Union. In Priya's Yorosk, the secret work stopped. Binary packed up and left. When the office was closed, the program's files scattered. A three-star general later wrote that KGB loyalists took the UFO files and hid them, and then the Americans came looking. George NAP had been chasing UFO stories since he broke the Area 51 story in 1989. Then a high-level Russian scientist came through Las Vegas. After a few beers, NAP asked him about UFOs. The scientists put him in touch with a former KGB officer who had worked on UFO reports. "After night of beer and Vegas, George gets KGB secrets about UFOs. The best thing I ever got was an awkward evening with a cocktail atris and a swimmer's shame back to like, uh. " The Soviet Union was gone, and people who had kept secrets for decades were suddenly willing to talk. It took eight months to set up, but in 1993, NAP flew to Moscow. He meant more than a dozen military officers, intelligence agents, and scientists. And one of them was Colonel Sokolov. Colonel Sokolov told NAP that Soviet fighter jets chased UFOs 40 times, 3 times the pilots open fire, and three jets fell out of the sky. Two pilots died. After that, the orders were "leave the UFOs alone." It doesn't matter if they're over the ocean or over a nuclear missile facility, pilots were ordered to not engage. NAP came home with Soviet documents. We were able to talk these folks into providing us information that otherwise we would never have seen. Some of that was classified. What? I found out that they're, they only stamped the top pages of these documents that were classified. So I just removed them. I removed those pages and I carried them out. And if they'd caught me, I'd be in a gulag still, yeah. NAP's Russian contact told them that five years earlier, everyone involved would have gone to prison. Ten years earlier, they would have been shot. At home, NAP shared what he found with Senator Harry Reid and with the Senate Intelligence Committee. NAP's files helped start the Pentagon secret UFO program. Advanced aerospace weapons system applications program. Awesome. When the Pentagon's analysts went through the Russian files, they found that same military unit. It controlled three separate UFO programs. The NAPs had something scary to the Americans. It looked like the Russians were way ahead of us as far as 30 years ago. The Soviet program was gone, but Feliari remembered all of it. Then the government falls apart. The entire system, you know, that that he loved his family benefited from and the family has a long history of being good communist party members and, you know, elevated positions and things like that. That all falls apart. And so then what do you do, right? Our nation no longer exists. He's floating in a no man's land between Kazakhstan and Latvia. Where do you, you know, where do you take this resume of what you've been doing and, and and apply it? Then Veliari became a plumber. Every time he had a free minute, he wrote. He kept the pages in his briefcase. He had no lab, no team, and he worked mostly for memory. By 2009, he lived in Almanic, Kazakhstan. That year he went online and told strangers about his work. He had 82 pages, starting with the paper on Einstein. Then in 2012, Putin signed a new treason law. Scientists who shared their work with the West back in the 1990s were now criminals. Some of them went to jail. Feliari did the opposite of hiding. That August he uploaded his papers to a Russian social media site under his own name. After more than 100 pages, scanned one at a time. Once his work was public, nobody could make it disappear. And people noticed, the first page had almost 3,000 views and nearly 100 comments. One commenter warned him that scientists and feel like his were dying. So far, nobody is touching me, but I agree, it's a dangerous business, working on the razor's edge. I'm not a genius, I'm a simple engineer physicist, in nuclear physics and high energy physics. I love reading the physics in psychopidia. It will work. Theoretically everything is precisely calculated, there's just no money. For the winter I have four sacks of potatoes, a sack of onions and the internet thrown in. Knowledge is unsolved, it's simply given to people. He kept posting for a few more years. In 2017 he wrote his last words on that site, "Why does nobody want to know?" In December 2019, Feliari picked up the phone. His grandson in America was into aerospace, so he packed up his work and sent it by DHL. On December 19th, 2019, the CIA released its full report on the green light over Syrian on, and 11 days after that, Feliari was dead. Back in America, on August 23rd, 2025, the FBI knocked on Jean's door. It was a few weeks after the papers got the David Grush. The girlfriend's photographs never came. The next month George Napp went to Congress, he told him about thread three. By then it was more than a report. It was a Soviet program to build UFOs from crashes, landings, and recovered material. Napp released the pages from it. Jean looked at them and saw his father-in-law's work. It was a match, one for one. That's September, Jean ran into Napp at an event in Las Vegas. So there I am having my conversation with Jean, and George is walking by and I just grabbed him quick and said, "Hey, it's a one for one match." He knew who I was. It's a one-for-one match. He says, "I'd love to see it." I sent him everything by email, never heard anything. Yeah, that, Jean, is not Jean, that's my brother, who you might know. I know. It's hard to follow. Not as hard as saying, "Priof's yours, a million times." Anyway, in October, Jean spent four hours in Boston with Lou Elizondo, a former Pentagon official. Allegedly. He showed Elizondo the favors. Once I showed him my father-in-law's work, and he sort of looked at it and was, "You know what this is?" I said, "I know what it is. You know what it is." He's like, "I know what it is." Then, George Napp came up. Yeah, so he's like, "I can call George right now. George works for me." And I said, "I was like, "You don't have to call him right now. I don't need his boss calling him yelling at me." This is Lou Elizondo saying this, that George works for him. Right. And what do you think that means? And that was the comment. In 2026, James Likatsky published a book. He ran a sap, Jean read it closely. Likatsky wrote that 12 attachments from the Soviet UFO files were missing, and nobody ever found them. In chapter 17, James Likatsky writes, "twice, there are 12 appendices that were supposed to be with the things that Napp brought back that nobody ever found. My father-in-law's works are 12 bodies of work, 12 individual works. Give me, you give me the odds that there's another set of 12 Russian language UFO reverse engineering documents out there in the world that nobody knows about." Those odds, by the way, are zero. A retired plumber in Kazakhstan mailed his family the plans for flying saucer and died a few weeks later. Then they learned he worked in a city that doesn't exist next to a range where the Soviets watched UFOs, and his math matched what American scientists built decades later. great story. What is it true? Well… Well the papers are real, and there is. Prears you ask is real. The Soviet UFO program was real, and so is that magnet experiment in Wisconsin. So there are three questions. When did he write those pages? What did he really do for a living and did anybody ever catch up to his math? Well, let's start with the papers, because everything comes back to those. The story is that these were secret Soviet papers, but Valiere never kept them a secret. During in August 2012, he posted them on a social media page, under his own name, for anybody to read. Those scans match what was in the DHL box, page for page, down to the rest stains from the papercliffs. Three years before that, he offered strangers 82 pages of his work. There's no flying saucer anywhere in those posts. And the pages date themselves. One typed page talks about 2004, like it's the present. And it calls the Soviet Union the former Soviet Union. The Einstein paper was printed on a computer, not a typewriter. And that note about the UFO taking water from the Sun? Well, in March 2012, a NASA video of the Sun went viral. And people online said it showed a UFO, and a fuel stop. The page was written in 2012. And it wasn't true. None of the 119 pages is a stamp secret. None has a signature or the name of an institute. The pink sheet is his own handwritten notes on making ball lightning. And he says he never saw a craft. And he gives the saucer size, he writes things like, let us take it most likely, and perhaps. Gene said it himself. The documents themselves don't give any reference point as to the origins of what it is that is being examined and detailed. So the papers aren't Soviet documents. They're one man's work written over many years. And I want to be clear about something. Nobody faked anything here. These pages were aligned years before the family opened that box, years before the hearings in Congress, and years before that magnet in Wisconsin. Whatever the papers are, they're real, and they're his. So what did he really do for a living? Only his girlfriend put some in a preuseursk. And she hasn't said it in public. Natalia's mother never named the city. His school in Riga published its 1981 graduation list. His name isn't there. Those lists don't cover every program, so that isn't exactly the last word. Online, Vellieri wrote more than a hundred comments about his work. He never mentions a base, a unit, or having a clearance. He called himself a simple engineer. The only workplace he ever names is a shipyard in Lundgrad that he visited in 1990. So what did he do at preuseursk? Was he ever there? Nobody knows. Now the numbers. That 16.65 Tesla isn't a setting for his engine. He's an estimate of the magnetic field on the surface of the sun who worked out with his own theory. It's about 26 times stronger than the strongest field anyone has ever measured there. And on a later page, he wrote that his reactor doesn't need to feel that strong. So the match with Wisconsin is a guess about the sun that landed near a magnet. In 2026, Gene wrote his own analysis of the case. It says the matching numbers don't prove anything. Same with thread three. The pages NAC released are a Soviet research plan from the late 1980s. They don't share a single phrase, number, or institute with the papers in the box. What they share is the number 12. And Gene has said himself that he's not saying that they're the exact same pages. NAC hasn't said anything in public about the papers. And nobody recorded Gene's talk with Elizondo. So who knows. The Soviet programs Yetka collected about 3,000 reports. The people who ran it found no landings and no contact. They found a natural explanation for every case. Sounds familiar. When Natalia wrote to NAC's old Russian contact, he told her the same thing. And he said he was sorry if it was a disappointment. But a lot of the story is true. The green light over Siroshigan, that happened. So it was the Kapustin Yard disc of 1989. And the missile base in 1982, an officer wrote that the panels lit up for 15 seconds. The rest of the story just grew over time. A 1948 dogfight first showed up in a history channel documentary in 2005. In 1998, Russian researchers went looking for the underground hangers at Kapustin Yard. They found a bathhouse and a store room. And nobody searched the bathhouse. They searched it. That's where you keep lizard people. It's steamy. Everybody's shedding and nobody makes eye contact. They searched the bathhouse. Then they're in the store room. The 40 chases come only from Sakhalov's interviews with Nat. And the jellyfish was a rocket launch the government didn't want to admit to, because the launch site was classified. And that treason law. Putin signed the treason law on November 2012, three months after Vellieri posted his papers. When a stranger warned him, he wrote back that nobody was touching him. The only death notice we can find says that he died after a long illness. And the CIA report came out 11 days before he died. We know that because John Greenwald asked for it in January 2029. Now it's a coincidence and it's a creepy one. But I couldn't find a solid connection. So maybe Vellieri never saw a UFO. Maybe the refrigerator work was just refrigerators. But here's what we know for sure. Vellieri never built his machine. He had four sacks of potatoes and an internet connection. Every three minute he worked out how to fly to the stars. He said knowledge shouldn't be sold. It should be given to the people. So he did that. He gave it away online to anybody who wanted it. Then at the very end, he gave that knowledge to his grandson, a boy in America who loved airplanes just like Vellieri did when he was at age. The last thing Vellieri did was hand his dream to somebody young enough to finish it. And I hope he does. And when he does, I hope he gives away that knowledge for free. Doing that would make his grandfather proud. And I can't think of anything more important than that. Thank you so much for hanging out today. I'm AJ. Here's Heiko Fish. Remember kids. Never trust a fish way out of face. I have a face by the way. Take a fish out. This has been The White Files. If you had fun or learn something, I'd really appreciate it if you like, subscribe, comment, share. That stuff really helps the channel. 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