The "Chastise The Media" Stage | Hour 3

This is the Dunlabel Tarshall with this two-guts podcast! Do you guys realize how great it would have been if Drew Brees had played in that game? If you remember that game, Stidem made the one mistake Drew Brees never made in his career, which is he cost them the game by having. All he had to do was protect the football. Stidem didn't have to do anything else the entire game. Didn't have to make A-play, just don't make a disaster play. If Drew Brees at 47 had gone out there and won a snow game for Sean Payton and gotten them to the Super Bowl winning a snow game, what kind of lunacy would that have been? I think we kind of forget though, Drew Brees was kind of his last year. He's 47! Yeah. His arm doesn't work anymore, but all he had to do is not make the disaster play that Stidem made. I mean, Jared Stidem, like it or not, right now is better than Drew Brees. Right now, yes he, right now. No, he's not, no he's right now. You can never tell me there's not been a moment in his life, nor will there ever be a moment in his life where Drew Brees is living on this planet and is a worse quarterback than Jared Stidem. His shoulder doesn't work. He wouldn't have made the disaster play. Okay, so he's the Jamie Moyer of Quarterbacks now. Oh, you're going to do this again. You shook me off. I mean, come on. I wanted to, I wanted an opportunity to ask Kyle Brandt. Hey, is Jalen Hertz the Mark Burley of Quarterbacks? And we were all so excited to do that back here. See Gregg Cody loved it. And yet we'll never know. We'll never for all of our lives. No whether or not Kyle Brandt thinks that Jalen Hertz is the Mark Burley of Quarterbacks. And that's on you, Dan. I shook you off because I didn't want to hear about it again. I sure didn't want our audience to hear it. Hey man, I've had the third worst day here. Okay. And here we are. I mean, he's exasperating. And I wish the heat would let him go again. I wanted to get to three college football things. And I want to start with Joey Freshwater. So we've got some Lane Kiffin sound. We've got some archmaning sound and we've got some Dan landing sound. Dan landing. I mean, that guy, that guy I want to get to most of all because it seems fairly obvious that if you don't have Mario Cristobal's players, you're just not any good at your job. That's right. And you were super arrogant about it when you had Mario Cristobal's players. And so I want to talk a little bit about Dan landing. But first, let's go out to Joey Freshwater. I mean, I guess there's real safety issues and stuff. So there's people that have a plan for that is what it is. So, but I told the players today, man, like you don't have anything to worry about as far as like attention on you all week and everything. There's just going to be so much attention, hatred, everything on me. I said, you just get to go play. And I said, really, the pressure is on them. They're the team that, and we won seven games last year. They won 13. They return, you know, to Heisman candidates. How often does that ever happen in the same backfield? We had it one time with Matt Liner and Reggie Bush. And second longest winning streak in the country. So you guys just get to go play and the pressure is not on you. Just so we're clear, Lane Kiffin, who left Ole Miss because he has a better chance of winning championships at LSU, wants you to know that team over there. They want 13 games. All right, that's a great team. We only won seven last year. So the reason that he left Ole Miss now, it's the opposite. They're really good over there. They're better than us. Lane Kiffin looks phenomenal. Do you ever look at his biceps and say, wow, he's really done some work. He looks good. He's going from the sorority zone. Yeah, he does look good. Joey Freshwater is doing a smart thing there, I think, just putting it all on him and also putting in perspective that if he wins at LSU, he's not wrong. He inherited a bit of a disaster over there. And he made Michigan better than LSU last year. And Trinidad Chamblis is more highly regarded than any of the players nationally that he has. He's not wrong about what he's saying. They're going to win. LSU. Like they're going to win there. And they're going to they're going to hate him so much. Oh my God. It's going to it's going to be a it's not going to be LeBron returning to Cleveland in a Miami heat uniform levels, but it's it's going to be quite the circus there this weekend. I feel like though we see time and time again that this is what Lane Kiffin has done. So I'm not sure why people are upset for him upset at him doing exactly what he's always done, which is go to a better opportunity. Yeah, I agree. And I don't think that psychology 101 he's playing works even with college kids where all the pressures on them. Yeah, not really. Well, it doesn't matter right. The game has to be played. It doesn't matter who the pressure is on. There's a great deal of pressure on him though. And I wanted to ask you guys as a lifestyle choice, okay? My brother used to talk all the time about the gypsy curse. May you get everything that you want. It may not feel how you think it feels. I want to talk to you guys about the idea whether you're Lane Kiffin or Stephen A Smith. Stephen A Smith has said recently that it's been a very hard year for him. And the question I want to ask you guys is, do you think that there is a heavy sort of effect no matter how much you pride yourself on being someone. I don't care what anyone thinks. I don't care whether you like me or not to have everyone hating you. Like just to walk through life, all the money, all the power, the job you've always wanted, but you're walking through life and everyone hates you with an intensity that even if you're comfortable being the villain, do you believe that that's an energy you would want on you? Because I would not. I don't mind not being like to have a strident obnoxious problem with the way I deliver things in tone because I don't mind not being like, but I don't want to be hated by everybody. I don't want to be in the present news stream and everyone in sports is looking at you and saying, Oh, you're just about the money. All you care about is the next opportunity. The things that you come out of your mouth don't even mean anything because you're that comfortable being a villain. I don't know many human beings who are actually comfortable with that. I think that guy though might be one. He might be like, he, I'm not, yeah, I'm not trying to be funny. Like I, I think he might be a little bit different. It's not very human though. I will say, it's not like to to welcome being hated by everybody in exchange for money or power to make that kind of a transaction that consciously. I don't think most of you talking about this or me or anybody knows what the sacrifice actually is. When every time you decide to interact with social media, it's just everyone saying you're an ass and here are all the reasons and all the ways that you're an ass. And I don't think that there have been many people in the history of sports who are actually comfortable with that. I think Dremont's a lot more comfortable with it than Lane Kiffin is. Dremont keeps choosing it again and again and again. But I wonder how that'll feel to him when he doesn't have Steph Curry and isn't winning all the time because I don't think that the transaction is a healthy one for a human being. Well, as opposed to a guy like Dremont, Dremont will continuously defend his actions, right? He's still defending the Jordan pool bunch. I don't hear a whole lot of Lane Kiffin defending his actions. Am I wrong about that? All I hear is hatred from every corner, except for his little local corner in LSU. Well, they will love him for being that. Like this is a, they have a chance in LSU to be the most wonderful thing where you all hated us and we still kick the respect out of you. Like we still were so good at what we do that it doesn't matter that your hatred is your hatred because at the end you're going to have to respect being because I'm really good at what I do. I don't think anyone who's online unless you are just completely tuned out of social media, you are comfortable being hated by everyone. I don't think you feel good doing that. I don't think you can be immune to that. I don't think there's anyone arrogant enough that doesn't feel the pain of that. It's not very human to think that there's someone who's so comfortable with the defiance of being a villain that they're in that role all the time and every single time. I told you guys, I had to check out on social media just had to leave because it went, I'm 57 and I've been pretty comfortable all my life with the hate letters. Like from the beginning of my career at the Miami Herald, I'm 57 and I had to check out on no thank you. I don't want to hear all of the things that are thought about me or any of them really. I don't want my day impacted in any way by what somebody anonymous on the internet who may be angry, who may be lonely, who may only be there for the fuel of who else can I hurt because I love that the internet offers me the access to be able to hurt people. I don't want to play in that particular sandbox, but when I say to anyone listening to this, hey, in our business, do you think you want to be Steven A. Smith or in Lane Kiffin's business? Do you think you'd like to be Lane Kiffin? Everybody says, yeah, give me that power, give me that money, everything else. But I do wonder about the idea of just everyone hitting you every minute of every day on your adip I don't like you. I don't like the things that you say and here are all the angles from which I don't like you. Everybody just a chorus of everybody saying it to you every day all the time. Yeah, it's funny because in the world of pro wrestling, right? That's the persona that you develop and that you play off of and you embrace. Go on. And in real life, in real life, with Lane Kiffin, with Steven A. Smith and guys like this, you have no choice but to play it for all its worth and turn it around in your favor. It's Steven A. Smith's role, right? That's his persona. But I just think when he says this last year has been really hard on me, it's because you don't actually know the sacrifice you're making until you're making it because he's gone into another sphere right he's gone into politics and now he's got a whole lot of black people saying you're only doing the criticism of black people to hold us down and all of the things like once you go into politics once you go outside of the the sphere of sports where it's just a silly debate show he's getting consistently clowned by the people in the media who he otherwise craved their respect I would think you want you want your peers to respect you can't be fighting with everybody like without it being an energy drain you can't be fighting everybody all the time every different community it's black women and I'm not just talking about Stephen and I'm talking about him and Lane Kiffin I just think that we underestimate the mental strain of that no matter what it is that you're being paid for but that is the transaction you're being that's what the money's for maybe boxers like Devon Haney so that he gets off on being Hayden Floyd Mayweather was like that as well uh but uh the the modern the modern age of how divided we are right now on every single subject I do wonder the inviting of that I how many villains do we actually have in sports like how most people want to be liked like you don't get into sports to be disliked yeah I'm trying to think of villains in sports mean basketball's where you look like the basketball players lean into it doing Brooks leans into a dream on for the most part as well you could find it in basketball and the other sports I don't know the you get guys who are outwardly trying to be villains especially quarterbacks right like you're supposed to be the leader you're supposed to have the franchise on your back you're supposed to always say the right thing the whole point of that role is to to have a good decision making so I has there been a villain quarterback down lebertar yeah very much if someone told you you couldn't have a Corvette I'm a grown-ass man who's not who's not filthy rich I can't afford a Lamborghini great Cody well I probably can but that's what hey DC see down lebertar show football in general doesn't produce many villains like Terrell Owings would be the like Deon Sanders whatever like it's been it's been a minute football doesn't do very much I'm looking I was looking at a list of like most hated athletes and it's like you see Mike vick on stuff for like the dog stuff but yeah you know there's not a lot of good examples of quarterback football will scrub the personality out of just about everyone but we've got somebody in Texas who's got the quarterback chromosome handed down from from his brothers and archmaning announced himself in the last game against Ohio state and for some reason we talked about this earlier the sarkeesian holly row moment became something unpleasant at the end of a really fun interesting game and I guess archmaning what was his response he was asked about sarkeesian blowing off holly row I've seen a few AI and it's stuff but that's that's about it I saw AI at a sarke center of you don't see that one as it going up him slapping holly row what's crazy about this is is this AI edit was a backhanded slap of sarkeesian to holly row it was not a funny video by any means and as disappointing as it is to hear archmaning speak like this like which is disappointing on its own he's a 22 year old he's not a child it's the way that it was positioned it's the laughter by the media it's it's the tweet from Evan Veef who was the guy or vife who who tweeted out that he asked this question he tweeted the quote I saw the AI edit of sarke slapping holly row and he said I asked archmaning if you'd seen any edits on tiktok or twitter after the game and his answer is gold what about that is gold there's nothing about that that is that is gold this is it it's a kind of disgusting video to watch even even though it's AI even though it's fake ha ha ha there's nothing funny about a head coach hitting an interviewer head coach hitting a woman and this type of behavior and discussion around sport it's just gross didn't we play AI video of mario crystal ball hitting somebody right and day punching right he knocked him out that one was funny I think that we stopped using AI after that I don't believe that we have used it for anything since then or we shouldn't be I've made that order but nobody listens to me around here I I'd like to do the whole thing where it's like I he's a kid what does he know but I know you you kind of got to know you kind of got to know that it's oh but you say he's a kid he's a kid grown up on the internet if he's around lunches the locker room but the menace fear like that's the whole vibe on the internet if you're raised by the internet now it hates women like that's what it I'm not going to say that's what exists for but like it's it's a very strong acid undercurrent a bunch of lonely men being given the permission to be angry with women I don't think arch is one of those lonely men well there was a golf company just a couple of weeks ago they got in big trouble for a commercial that's right we don't say that golf company's name that had a male golfer fairly violently pushing a female golfer onto the turf and that was not AI it was a commercial I underestimated though how many young men are listening to the poison on the internet being raised by it and becoming a different kind of young man than the the ones that were raised pre internet because of what the androotates of the world are doing how it is that the people like that are making their money well I think it's really interesting too not just the fact that it was done and that a quarterback did that that's 22 but you're talking about you were a part of the pedigree of the manning family like Archie's grandson you're related to Eli and Peyton you would think that you would be trained to not be redpilt but for him to have that the way that the smile looked actually to me was more offensive than that he thought it was funny it was giving frat boy it was giving oh I don't know I didn't know she was asleep like she seemed into it it was very weird the reaction was interesting to me but I also want to get to some sound here because I thought it was weird we don't have to get to this we don't have to get to the Dan landing sound you're sure do how do you feel about Oregon having trouble with Boise State and then losing to what I thought was the worst big big school power in the entire sport last year I thought Oklahoma Oklahoma State I'm not kidding you when I say it's the worst football team I saw by miles last year and they brought in 91 new players and they didn't just beat Oregon they kicked Oregon's ass like that wasn't fluky they took north Texas is roster and they beat Oregon with it and Dan landing I would assume is in trouble because he gives off a whole lot of arrogant coach for someone who hasn't accomplished a whole lot you believe start quarterback should speak to media after tough losses and what was your reaction when Dante chose not to well I don't think he chose not to did you know he's given an IV he's got two IVs after the game he's dehydrated I think that's I mean this guy he'll be speaking to you guys tomorrow any question that you want to ask him you can certainly ask him but I don't know if you ever given an interview why you're getting an IV at the same time and getting treatment yeah but does that make a little more sense yeah that would make a lot and then there's a bus in a flight you're trying to catch as well but Dante will be here tomorrow you can talk to Dante right but you know he's cramping up on the field I think the first thing that we're going to do post game is get treatment right if any of our players never like not been available to talk yeah that's one and he was getting two IVs right after the game got one and then he got another one that's that's a product of being in a in a tough environment great heat he's cramping up on the field so sorry he wasn't able to give you an interview you could ask him about tomorrow that information wasn't really yeah what should it be should it be well privately ever have a report on it so but wait before you write your article they should say hey just so you guys know yeah so we don't misconstrued it well you misconstrued it you could always ask me good job weird good so we're at the portion of Dan Lanning's career to Oregon where things are not going well so he's going to chastise the media that's officially where we're at so and you know what good on the reporter for going back at him because should should you be told yeah yeah we should be told when the quarterback of the team after the loss is not available to media yes yes coach we should be told I mean I don't think we should have played that clip like I think that was probably unnecessary because insults injury you know what I mean like this is the second ranked team in the country we were clearly frauds I don't know why we were ranked that high I saw it I was baffled of course Boise State always gives us a hard time the decision making quality go forward on fourth uh and what eight at your own thirty three like Dan Lanning has been awful he's been terrible I'm really he's a crystal ball merchant I'm really sorry that I said so many mean things last year about Mario crystal ball clearly on the salty and in my feelings clearly he has the ability to recruit in the trenches in a way that Dan Lanning does not clearly Dan Lanning has feasted off of Mario crystal ball recruits go on and I don't know how I can be an Oregon fan given the way that our team consistently collapses not just in big moments anymore well in really small renounce your fandom why did you need to do that I mean I feel like I'm challenging her to renounce her fandom well I feel like she just did I would you were you not listening I didn't hear her renounce her fandom tighten me I didn't hear that I didn't do the show that felt like a renouncing of her fandom last year's defense she didn't say the word renounce last last year she was on here and and she was laughing at Mario Cristobal and she was telling us how wonderful you can leave. Please show yourself out. So you're no longer an organ fan then? You have to go. Ah, that's not an answer. You do have to go. Okay, but that was not an answer to it. Sorry, it wasn't. Okay, I wish the Maclatchy Company could lay you off every day by phone with their chief revenue officer. On your birthday. On your birthday. Waiting. And on lebatar. Is there back in my day? There is actually. What? Are you not going to tell anyone? It's just a minute. It's just a minute. You guys take it. Guys. It's a Tuesday. Greg Cudi. Here's your guy. Greg Cudi. We're back in my day. Okay, here it is. Sorry. Adultery. No. No. No. We are back. We're waiting for this one. I don't want to talk about this for a second because Oregon was the first of the schools that allowed the billionaire to turn college football into a playpen by allowing Nike founder Phil Knight to run his own program in college football call plays. And Oregon has not won. Always fun. You struggle with saying the word or you say different every time. Always fun to look at as a team, always good uniforms, always good athletes since Phil Knight has been there. Never wins a game that you remember just as a program. And Dan Lanning specifically, no one, we won the Whiteout at Penn State last year. That we won and we won in double over time and we won on an interception. That was the biggest game. Any year Penn State fired their coach. Well, I mean, they were ranked at that time. We were the reason that they collapsed. We're probably the reason that James Franklin got fired. Hi, Michael. Let's examine though, Dan Lanning when it comes to the nature of Trista's apology. Hey, Michael. Because I think everyone owes Mario Christopher Paul on apology on if you've got the talent to get the best skilled players, you're the most valuable coach with the most valuable ability. Like if I, if you give me one coach, any coach and tell me what do you want that coach to be able to do more than anything, get the players is the very top of my list. Yep. I will tolerate anything else and Dan Lanning being exposed this way, right? You start the season and oh my God, you were able to hold it together because of what he left you, but it's falling apart now because you can't be barely squeaking by Boise State. And I'm telling you, Oklahoma State just said, Gundie, get out of here. We're getting 91 new players and they put together a Hodgepodge team where they just take North Texas and like, this is what we're going to play for that to catch up to Oregon in a year. You fallen behind. Well, and I think he probably just sucks too as a coach and we've changed offensive coordinators, changed offensive coordinators, but this was the number three recruiting class in the country that four or five stars, they had 14 four stars, like, this is a team that sometimes looks super ready to play and sometimes looks very unprepared to play. And the way that it went at the end of the game against Oklahoma State, I was watching on FaceTime with someone who was watching it on a laptop because you can't get it over there in the Bahamas. I guess. Anyway, it was a disaster and I feel like Dan Lanning should probably, I don't know, be on the hot seat. Do you guys think it's overreaction for me to say that after dabbo in terms of things falling apart, you fallen behind, you can't catch up from here. Dan Lanning is right behind dabbo on that happened pretty quick and I don't think you're going to recover from it. You've been left behind by the others in the sport. The new sport is we'll get 91 new players and beat you and we'll do it in a year. I think that he's going to be afforded quite a bit of time to get this thing going in the right direction. I mean, they were 13 and one going into a game that they lost to the national champion. The question is more about, my question is more, look, I remember this happened with Dave Wantset. Okay. Dave Wantset was the first few years of Jimmy Johnson's players, 11 and five, 11 and five and everyone was shouting, hey, it's deteriorating. Hey, it's deteriorating and then it gets to four and 12 and everyone, oh, yeah, of course, it's deteriorated. You've got to be quicker now. The money's bigger and the time frames for these coaches is less and less. And so I don't know whether it's unfair to do this to Dan Lanning, but he's fallen behind. You start the season with those two losses against, I'm not going to say nowhere programs, but not playoff teams. Just one loss. The other one looked like a loss, but it wasn't felt like a loss. Yes, forgive me. It smelled like a loss. I got it wrong, but they've gotten worse in a way that's obvious because those aren't playoff teams that they're struggling against and they're supposed to be a top five team. And that's not a top five team. And they play in a conference where like you have the best schools. It's and the conference keeps getting better and better. And they've ducked Ohio State. So I think that's a big piece. I think it's worse to have a top three recruiting class and be this bad. If it was just about the raw materials and you can't go into the room and get the best guys and there's the change in NIL era, which, you know, Nike money is going to pay for a lot of players. That's one thing. But you've got top three recruiting class and you do that. That means to me that you don't know what you're doing on the field. Well, offensive line play is another thing with Mario Cristobal that I think kind of matters there. And I don't know how you feel about their offensive line plan, but landing. You can have a time when I don't know. So answer this question for me. Are those recruits on the offensive line? Like is he because Oregon has always been finesse football. It's always been speed and athletes. I don't think of them as how's their offensive line play. But when they had Cristobal, they had good offensive line play and Cristobal now has good offensive line play. So when they've got these top recruiting classes, are there offensive linemen, the ones that are on it? Well, two offensive linemen that were five stars. This kid, Emanuel Ihenacho at a Bethesda and there was another interior offensive linemen too. I mean, none of it makes any sense. This is a team that has consistently just gotten athletes after athletes. And that's why we got Mario is to build in the trenches and be big bruises because that was where we lost all these games was against bigger, stronger players. I mean, it's one thing to be as speedy as they were. And then you get to the big game. It's why they're not as good as Ohio State, right? Save to say there won't be a worse loss this season, right? Then Oregon losing that game to Oklahoma State. I don't know if you guys saw Oklahoma State the first week of the season when they lost at home to Tulsa, but Oregon was a 24 point favorite in that game that I'm telling you. They were God awful last year. They lost 12 straight FBS games. Oklahoma State like that's the president. There wasn't a worse big school in football last year. It's why they fumigated the place. And if you lose to them, it's not just that they lost to them. Not their ass kicked. Yes. Like we're coming back. Competitive. We're going. Well, I wouldn't say not competitive, but we're coming back and couldn't because they can stop them. No, they couldn't stop them and they've got a physicality problem. Like they've got as they usually and often do because they're never Ohio State. Ohio State doesn't have a physicality problem. And the quarterback does not look great. Well because they've got a physicality problem. Like they've got a Heisman candidate quarterback. Top five. Top five picks, supposedly. Adolphin candidate. Damn right. Did you guys miss or notice that Tony Roma wasn't on your broadcast week one because the thing that I was wondering is if Tony Roma was going to be back because once he released the statement, I'm in constant debilitating pain. And I've got a problem with alcohol that I developed because I had a problem with pills. That statement, the revelation in it, he didn't have to do any of that. And now football marches on without him. And I am genuinely curious, did anyone miss him this weekend? Football came back with a roar. Was there any kind of clamoring for I missed that broadcast team? I did make note a couple of times like, oh, that's not that's J.J. Watt with Jim Nance, just hearing another voice with Jim Nance. I did notice it. I didn't, you know, it takes time to build the chemistry. I'm not going to judge them too hard, but it was just almost jarring just to hear a different voice with Jim Nance. I'm probably the wrong person when it comes this because it makes extremely little difference to me. You know, unless you got someone who's completely incompetent in the booth, I thought J.J. Watt was good. He didn't bother me. And it's like I'm not sitting there missing Tony Roma. I'm asking you guys the larger question, though, of is he going to come back though? I think he'll disappear, he'll never, he won't come back from this season or ever. I don't, I don't think he'll come back from this. It's either Nance or nothing, right? There's no shot. He comes back and they're like, we're going to put you on the third team now. Oh, no, it'd be so embarrassing for him. No way. So yeah, because I feel like that's what CBS would want to do if anything. So I feel like we might be done with Roma. You guys couldn't see him go through like either using CBS or another network, maybe go through not this season, but go through either a studio show or the college route for a minute. Do the personality stuff that he's always done and make his way back because like I was talking with with Tony earlier this week and we were having your conversation, like, I kind of missed Tony Romo in his personality. Like, you're right. JJ Watte made no mistakes, and he was perfectly fine. And maybe that's what we want out of our broadcast. But some of those silly moments, some of the ones whether the analysis is great or not here, the passion for it. There's not a lot of guys left like Tony Romo. Well, I want to talk though for a second about sort of the management of the career. It's a decision to volunteer right before the season starts after there's been an embarrassing video. And there's total chaos at CBS. Do you know how hard it is to embarrass CBS at this point given everything else happening at CBS? The video of Tony Romo that then requires the public playing of your soul, a decision made by whoever protects your career. I'm going to tell everybody that I'm in constant debilitating pain. And I'm going to tell everybody that I've got an alcohol problem because I had a pill problem. It's a fairly amazing decision to make as a public relations move. Why? Isn't that a money thing? I think right now they're arguing about how to get out of that contract and negotiating some of the settlements that come with, can we fire him for breach? Yeah, that's right, of the behavior. But that only happens if your bosses don't support you on the front end, because they're not happy with the work you're already doing. A, a, an executive could very easily just protect you in this spot. If he or she cares to, and it would seem given the public relations nature of the choice Tony made to volunteer, constant debilitating pain. Someone told him to say that. Give me my money. Someone told the public perception, totally on top of that. Tony Romo at one point was the highest paid broadcaster when he signed that deal, right? I think or at least like top three, he makes 17 million a year. I mean, I don't think there was a broadcaster who was praised more after their, you know, debut, debut season than Tony Romo and CBS is, is hemorrhaging money. So they have an out in a reason to fire him, regardless of whether they like him or support him or not. So they're firing people that they like left and right. So if Tony Romo puts that out, it's because he, I think Zaz is right. He's trying to keep it a fairly stunning and fast downfall. Is it not? That's one of the prime positions he could have had that for 30 years totally. He's one of the most charismatic people I've ever interviewed in my life. Well, there is very little in sports television more valuable than the announcer who gives an accent of enthusiasm to what you're watching that voices the enthusiasm of the fan. JJ Watts, not going to do that. It's not possible for him to do it. And you didn't miss it at all though. The, like, there, I don't, I don't think there was a lot of a little bit. He's going to, he's going to vanish more quietly than I thought. And it's one of the great fumbled bags in the history of sports media if we don't see Tony Romo again.