The Bryan Johnson & Kate Tolo Episode

(upbeat music) - Yeah, what was so, what was it tell everyone? - Check, shut up. - No? - You don't think you all, people in explanation? - I just found out that I'm very allergic to bees. - So what happened to your foot, you guys? - I got stuck on the bottom of my foot, and for six days my foot looked like the nutty professor. And now it's slowly starting to come back, and I'm starting to get feeling in it again. But apparently I have to carry an Epi pen now. - Oh my God. - I know. - Did you look like Mr. Clumps? - Yeah, I look like Sherman Clump. - Should I be carrying an Epi pen just? - Yeah, as his friend. - So if you dress cool today, now I don't know if you realize this, but your buttons are all one off. - Oh, are they? - Yeah, jack. - Yeah, fully one off. Yeah. - Wow, but it might look better. - Yeah, I think it looks cool. - Actually, I think you like it. - Yeah, I think it looks way better. - Hey guys. - Hey. - Hey. - Hey. - How's it going? - Good to see you. - Yeah, I can't, I can't, I can't. - I can't, I can't. - Yeah, okay. - I got it, I got it. - I'm smarter. I am a prisoner of this world I built. - What is this? What's the point of this? - The world is toxic. - Oh. (laughing) - I wrote some soft porn of seducing Kate. - Whoa. - We now have like gone like a building. - What about sexual tension? (laughing) - I was asking him smiling. You're like, "Hello, welcome." (laughing) - Oh my God, no, no. - I just want to let you guys know that they haven't cleaned the air filters here in about 15 years. And we've got, we have a very low level of anthrax pumping through the air. - Throughout the house? - The air. - Do we bring our-- - I think, I hope so. - Okay. - We might be able to actually prove that's true. - Yeah. - I hope it's false. - I would like to know, I think. - False. - Yeah. I think I would like to know. - We brought, can you prove everything? - We brought like gadgets. - We can prove a lot. - Oh. What do we got going on? - Look, did you make that? - No. - Who did? - What is this? (laughing) - What is that? - What's going on? - Wait, what are you thinking? - I'm sorry, we're going to have a breakfast. We brought you guys food, we brought some biological age measurement devices. So. - I don't want to die. - I don't. - That's a good attitude. - I don't want to die, actually. - Are you sure that's true? - I live every day. - I feel like you guys maximize, for long Jeb, is it long Jeb? - Long Jeb? - I maximize for fun every day. - Yes. - Like every day I want to be like, I don't want to have a great day, 'cause what if I die tomorrow? - It's true. - I feel like if there's two people that are really giving in to their every whim, no, not you, I'm saying, unlike them, you're more like, we are giving in to our every impulse as far as like. - Oh, I thought you were saying someone who wakes up and has the best day, most productive day. - Not no, I'm saying, in the way that you're optimizing every single health thing you can do, we are totally ignoring that to such a. - Oh yeah. - Especially me, maybe not as much for you. - You too. - Yes, I would like to make the most of life. - Do you guys drink wine? - No. - No. - Do you guys eat pasta? - No. - Do you guys eat sugar? - No. - No. - Okay, so what do you eat? What are you doing every day? - Well, yeah, we brought you a full meal. - Yeah. - Okay, this looks incredible. - Yeah, and then this also is incredible. - What's in that? What is that one? - This is myademia nuts, walnuts, flaxseed, home-regarded juice, blueberries, raspberries, blackberries, and yeah, your name and all my fit. Well, what's the water substance? - Yeah, are you allergic to anything? - Are you doing macadamia nut milk? - Oh, so it's macadamia nut. - Yeah. - We take mac nuts and we actually. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah. - But I need to know more about the way that you guys eat and live. It's like, do you really. Like, what do you indulge in? Do you indulge in? - Nothing. - Yeah, nothing. - The whole premise is, no one goes. - Baries? I'm not very happy. - Yeah, we're happy. - Well, why'd you say, yeah, yeah, we're happy? - Because it's like, you know, I don't know what I say, no one's gonna believe if I say, yeah, I'm happy. - You seem happy. - And you guys are glowing. I mean, you both, your skin is enough for me to give up everything except wine in my life and follow your path. I like that. - Oh, I think that's good. I feel like they can. - Yeah, oh my God. - Okay, let's taste this. - It's too much, Dave. The texture's not gonna work. - You can hear it. - It's not gonna work, yeah. - Do it for a show. - I think I'm, I like what I'm doing for the show. - Do it for the world. - Good question. - Yes. - If someone was gonna change their life tomorrow, give us a crash course in like two minutes. - Okay, well, it could be longer than two minutes. - You're gonna take it too much. - I'm good. - Two hours. - Okay, here's the two minute crash course. People get overwhelmed. So you can't give them more than one thing to do. - Yeah. - It's like too much, yeah. And so the thing we tell people to do is lower your heart rate before bed. Here's the thing, here's what makes your heart rate elevated. Before bed, it's food, screens, alcohol, weed, anxiety, work, scrolling, TV watching, blue light. - What else is there though? - And fights. - A lot of the things that you named. So sound like every night. - Yeah, exactly. That's why it's so tricky. So when you go through the list, it's like, okay, so this food's good for you and people are like, great, but it's so hard to implement. But really, the crux of life is how you sleep. And how you feel. - How you feel? - How you feel. 'Cause how you feel in life. - Mentally. - Yeah, how you feel in life mentally is based upon how you sleep. And so everything is built around sleep. Aren't you like very pro, like, sialis and stuff? - Yeah. - Every man, like, probably, this is not. - I'm potentially women. - Every man of her 40 should be microdose. Every actually, men, man, and woman. - Yeah, what's the Alice again? - Tidalville. - Like him. - Dicard, record it. - Oh, yeah. - Is that it's a longevity drug? - Women can take it? - Okay, every man and women should do what? - The low docine Tidalville. - Right, right. - There's less evidence for women, but the mechanism is the same, so it should change. - Blood flow. - Oh, yeah. - It basically helps your blood flow without the body, so-- - So you take it every day? - Yeah, five milligrams every day. - Probably is one of the very best longevity drugs that no one's, like, so few people are doing it. Everybody should be doing it. - So everybody should be taking penis pills. - So like, probably-- - I mean, this is not medical advice. - The evidence is men of her 40. That's where, like, the bigger studies are, but it's clearly applicable to men in their 30s too. It's not clear whether men in their 20s would do well. Like, so that's not clear. Women, it would be applicable. So it's not clear at what point and for home, but generally speaking, it's one of the best longevity drugs in the world. - And what is blood, what is the point of having good blood flow? - It's like, do you know that men with ED, erectile dysfunction, that can pre-find things at cardiac events by three to five years? - Wow. Venus has smaller blood vessels than the rest of the body, and so it's the first thing to show up when problems happen. - Yeah. - So that's like, so it's all about blood flow. And that's why it should work for women just as well as the rest of the men, because, you know, we have blood vessels too. - That's why men should measure their nighttime erections. - See if they're-- - Yeah. - Yeah. - How much fluctuation is there in a boner? - A lot. - A lot. - Do you know what I-- - As you get older? - Like, so like, as you, a healthy 20 year old, we'll have nighttime erections in a range of around two and a half to two hours from 45 minutes per night, five erection episodes, and then each one is graded on a scale from zero to 100. Coffee? - Coffee, is that terrible? - Yeah, you guys are coffee. - That's my next question. It's good. - Coffee's good? - Good. - Yeah, drink. - I'm gonna have a cup. - Yeah, yeah, have a cup. I don't drink any care. - I don't take care. - Oh, you don't either? - I don't do caffeine. I do decaf coffee. - So you don't do caffeine? - No. - Why? - How bad is weed, is weed bad? - Uh, generally, just not score high on nearly anything. - Yeah. - Fun, fun level. - Fun level scores very high. - But mushrooms, that is very relevant. - What is it? - live stream doing psilocybin. - Oh yeah, I saw something about that. - Yeah. - I'm about your experience. I'm interested. - Yeah, so we, so the goal is trying to find things that extend life. - Yes. - And there was a study that showed that mice had their lives extended by psilocybin, the active in magic mushrooms. And so we did, the world's most quantified experiment on psilocybin. So we measured like 250 biomarkers on my body and my brain. And then we did three doses of 25 milligrams of psilocybin. And then we live streamed it. - What happened? - Yeah, tell us what happened. - So first of all, the outcome of the study is we think that psilocybin is a legitimate contender as long as you have a therapy. It's not just about tripping. But we had evidence in terms of like it was good for blood glucose. It was good for my microbiome. It was good for, we had this really long list. Very surprised that this ancient medicine that's used in rituals, and then also used as a party drug was also this hidden thing about longevity. So, but then I'd say that what seems real when I was in there is when you go into that world, that world is as real as this world. - Yes. - And it feels like there's a conversation happening there just like there is happening here. And it's a deep, much deeper conversation, but it feels as real, so it's almost like inception. - Are you the same person here, but you're in a different reality that you can see, think that you couldn't see in this reality? - I think nonstop about existence. - Yes. - Consciousness. - Yes, like I can't stop thinking about it. So when I go there, the thing that seemed clear to me is we are in this epic contest for intelligent life. Like we are conscious on this planet. We are giving birth to artificial intelligence. It's becoming very powerful and it's growing at an increase in its speed that is like, we can't quite comprehend. And this moment is just epic beyond our capacity to understand. - That makes sense. - Like we don't understand how precious our existence is. Like we kind of live here. of life, and we live until we're 70s, then we die as we kind of yolo our way to like optimize how I feel and what I want to get done, and our power status wealth games. But when you're in that world, it just feels like there's this game being played of epic proportions. Well, also Brian, like a couple months later, live stream doing five NEO DMT. Okay. And then what's the deal with that? That is the strongest psychedelic on planet Earth. Was it similar to the first experience, or totally different? What happened? It's, it is the crown jewel of conscious existence. I cannot put into words what it's like. Try. You can't, it's not possible. You experience raw consciousness. It leaves you absolutely stunned, and honestly, I would say, I feel like it was the biggest accomplishment of my entire life was that, because when you get in there, so I wore the brainer face. And what happens is your prefrontal cortex wants to be in control of your narrative of who you are. Like, you are you, you were you, I am me, and we have this barrier between us. And this drug or this psychedelic basically blurs. And then what it does, it basically says, you need to release control. So you need to say, like you just say yes to existence so deeply. just yes and keep it going down. And at the same time, you're on the verge of losing your mind. Yes. At the panic is so real. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. This is a good exercise. How does this work for you? Because you're a man who wants full control of everything. Not really. I think others, it's like a mistral. What do you mean you control every part of your entire life? I felt like there's a misconception about Moran. Like, going into this experience, because a lot of people thrash, they scream, it's like quite a horrific thing to observe someone doing this substance. And I had zero fear going into it, just because I know Brian's brain. He's coming at the control thing from a perspective of like having been in the throes of life and going through so much darkness that it's actually not about control. It's about like, you know when someone in your life dies, something tragic happens and you're really sober to every moment. And then for a week, you live life where every second matters. This is his equivalent of living life every second matters. It looks like control, but it's like, why do you do it all in mortality? Yeah. Because I think this is the biggest moment in the history of the human race where humans have always died. And now with AI, we are the first time in the history of the human race where we may be the first generation who won't die. But it's not about immortality. It's not about a selfish desire. It's that we have the chance of like being stewards and characters of existence, of carrying this thing forward. And we're just on the verge of evolving into a new species. I like that. But what changed? What made you like, you were living life as a very normal man. Like I looked at your past, you were like completely normal man doing things that were probably bad for you. Like having a hard job, having stresses. What made you, like what was like the moment where you were like, oh my God, I have to change what I'm doing right now. Or was it a thing that happened very gradually over a long period of time? When I was 21, I decided I was going to become an entrepreneur, make a whole bunch of money, and then try to do something useful in the world. And it took me 14 years. I got there. I sold my company and we made a couple hundred million dollars. And then it was this question of like, what do you do? Should we switch to go to the couch? Yeah, let's do that. I'll sit on the floor. Do you have seats that you always sit in? We do have seats. We always sit in. This couch is soft. It's got lots of forever chemicals in it though. Okay, so when you described, when you described, he was in the middle of it. I know, I'm going to go right back to where I work. When you described this different species of humanity, and you say, AI is the thing that's allowing us to get to that, are you envisioning AI, allowing us to do, be smart enough to preserve ourselves, or are you imagining some sort of hybrid machine-based human-combined organism? Yeah. No one knows. Oh, it's a good question. Okay. I need to, he did get us from the question that I thought you were getting me to the. He didn't know. My question was so good that he has no idea what to answer. No, you were explaining why you were 21 years old. You decided you wanted to make a lot of money to do something good for the world. It took you 16 years to do. And then you're there and you got it. What happened then? To walk me through. Then it was a question of, "Okay, what do you do?" And deciding what to do is very hard, because it takes 10 years to start anything and get to the starting line. It takes a long time to get momentum in doing something, so I wanted to choose carefully. I decided two things. One is, I got a bunch of friends together. I held like 10 dinners across the country, and I would ask them this question. Imagine we're in 2050, the world is amazing. And we're looking back on 2016, like what did we do in 2016 that made the world in 2050 amazing? And people would say, you know, the same things in every dinner. And it's just like humans repeat what they hear. They're working on similar things. There's a zeitgeist. So after the third, I was like, "Okay, I see the pattern. Everyone's saying the same things." So I'm going to make myself a challenge. I'm going to draw a box. I'm going to put all the ideas inside the box. I can't do anything inside the box. It's got to be outside the box. So then, so that's like what I call a zero principle thinking. Like you can't do anything that you're aware of or the others are aware of. And then I did the second thought experiment where I imagined being present in the year 2500. So you're a few hundred years into the future. And whoever is there, like, you know, whether it's humans or AI or some combination, they're conversing in this thought experiment. And they're looking back at us. And they say we're so grateful for homo sapiens in the early 21st century. Because they did blank that allowed intelligence to thrive in this part of the galaxy, feeling the blank. I measured their boners at night. Can I tell you about a time I was scammed? New York City, a man put headphones on my head. He said, "Do you like this?" And I said, "Yeah." He said, "What's your name?" And I said, "Dae." He started signing the CD to Dave. I said, "What do you--?" He said, "You like this?" And then I paid him $10. So I was emasculated in front of my ex-girlfriend. Well, that's a-- he was-- he was kind of good. That's a good little technique he had. Keeping your money safe from fraud deserves to be a priority. And Cash App treats it that way. I'm secure you are. Cash App requires a successful face ID or biometric authentication to access your account. It's like your money is protected by your own personal bodyguard. Even if your phone is lost or stolen. Plus, if you're about to send money to someone new and Cash App notices that something looks a bit off or that you might be following for a scam. It will send you a warning before the money is sent to confirm that everything looks right. Download Cash App today. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provide a bank Cash App's banking partners. Visit Cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures. It is crazy. You're the only person who's taken on this challenge. Are there other guys like you? It's a huge undertaking. There's no other man like you. You can't be the second man. It's like you're just like the only long journey. I mean, we need some more sample size, right? You're just one man. Most measured person. Yeah, human history. But like because you're just-- can't anomalies exist in life and science? Yeah, and like the goal-- there's obvious limitations on like it's just one person. It's one body. People's bodies are different. What we're trying-- it's really what we're trying to accomplish is establish a new philosophy, a new ideology, a new religion, a new community. It's like a new all things. Basically, this is a demarcation where before this point, humans died. Yeah, yeah. After this point, humans have an extending lifespan. We just don't know how long and how well we can live. So what the 25th century say? They say homo sapiens in the early 21st century gave birth to superintelligence. And they figured out they would no longer die. But there's a difference between no longer die and live for a really, really long time. Like I'm surprised we're even reaching for immortality. So it's not even immortality? Yeah. It's just like-- it just means if we start-- so if the life expectancy is 79, right now-- No, I'm California. Is that what it is, 79? In California. So let's say next year becomes 80, and the next year becomes 82. Why are you living in California? Is it longer or other place? It's longer. Actually, it was for the brain interface company. Just keep going. So imagine then by 2030, it's 84, by 2032. So it's extending further. Yeah. And so now we're like, huh. So it's not that we've solved the immortality. It's that we shift our mindset. It's like, wait a second. I can be, as an 80-year-old, I can have the same cognitive capacity and physical capacity as a 25-year-old. And so when that happens, humanity will be like, wait, I have to rethink stuff. Yeah. And so that's the beginning of the psychological consideration. You have to get everybody kind of on board to understand the long-term goal first. That's not even hard. Everyone knows that when the '30s, they were dying at 40, and then they're at now they're 80, and I'm sure in 100 years there'll be 150. And what you're doing would make you like 3,000 or whatever. But immortality, what you say, is a complete impossibility. I mean, I don't think we need to-- We don't know it, we don't know it. We don't know. We don't know anything. Also, it feels cool about this, is that when you ask somebody if they want to live forever, they'll say, no. What? They'll say, not me. So, yeah, most people, they resist that. But then if you say, do you want to live for tomorrow, everybody says, yes. Because you have things going on tomorrow. Yeah. Wanting to live for tomorrow and wanting to live forever are the same idea. I agree. There's no difference. thing that you did. with, I don't know if it's true, but about how you read your body of almost all of its microplastics. Is that true? - Yeah. - What type of cutting board do you use? - Wood. - Wood. - Yeah, we tried to purge the house of plastics. So yeah, we did this experiment where we were measuring, we were trying to look at microplastics. It's a big deal. So we measured microplastics in my blood and also in my ejaculate. Because there was a study that showed that 100% of men, 100% of men had microplastics in their ejaculate and their testicles. - And that's how we wide that it related to fertility. - Yeah, so like it's just a bad thing to have in there. - Yeah. - It's a breeze. - So yeah, so we did. - Yeah. - I have the same device as you did. - You did a regular, yeah. - Yeah, wait, turn that around? - I have the exact same one at home. - Yep. - Same one. - How about you boy? - I just want to hear what, so the microplastics, you just finished the microplastics. - Yeah, okay, so yeah, brain. So we, after doing 21 sessions of sauna, my microplastic levels in my blood and ejaculate, lowered by 87%. - So what's it out? - It was a first in human demonstration of it. And so we don't know if it was from the sauna, from the heat, we don't know. We just know that it lowered. - So every man has to immediately like, why aren't there like national PSAs about this? - Right. - Like getting into the sauna right now. - It's a small of a sample size, I'd say. - But people should do the experiment to see if they replicate. - Yeah. - They should definitely be a follow-on because if it's truly effective, it's a big deal. - To sex hold value? - Yeah. - What's-- - If you do it in the heat. - Is there like an optimal, like, anything about sex? - They should be as much sex as you can have. - Really? - Yeah. - How could it be your heart rate? - The only thing that passes the list is sex. Sex at any time is great. - Really? - So you're okay with sex past your bedtime? - Yeah. - Why sex at any time is great? Why, how come? It's good. - It's a good coincidence. - Sex is very hard to come by. - Sure. - It's very hard to find the right moment, the right timing, the right situation. So when it presents itself-- - Tell me about it. - Take it. - Yeah. - And it's just, you know, so good for connection. - Tell me about it. - What does that mean? - I'm joking. - How often do you think the average couple should be having sex? - Much as they can. - Well, like, oh, you say how many times? - No, how many days out of the week? - Seven. - Seven? - I mean, I don't know if there's an upper bound. - Yeah, he's saying it's much as humanly possible. - But also, yes, okay. So here's a few things we've done on that is, for example, when couples have sex. - You studied this with yourself. - Yeah, he-- - You're not getting on comfortable with that. - Like, that's part of the old year award. - You're not getting it. - This doesn't make you feel comfortable. - No, no, no, no. - All right, tell us that. - I really believe that taboo thing should be. Like, why come and talk about this? - Yeah, right, right, right, right, right. - That's all I have. - We should go put another bottle on it. - Okay, so, but yeah, but yeah. - But like, this part of the year award because Brian, just like, deep into the research on, like, how to have sex. And then he, like, brought me information that I didn't even know about. - Oh, my God, tell us. Did you not know where you batted sex before? - Well, I didn't know, for example, like, if you find yourself, I mean, I don't know, was I batted sex before? - He was always great at sex. This is, like, next level. - Okay. - Like, tell everybody. - Okay, okay. - When, in the moment where, it's like, okay, so you're together and it's like, this might happen. A man is ready to go in 30 seconds, right? A woman takes around 17 minutes to be ready. - I could tell you that. I called the transition. - Yeah. - You have to, like, mentally transition. - So women tend, the cervix actually-- - Retreats. - Yeah. - Tent it. - It goes away. - Yeah, it retrieves to allow room for penetration. Like, it's not just like, us getting warmed up. It's literally mechanical. - So for 17 minutes, they're thin as-- - I'm not, 'cause-- - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Like, literally-- - Are you saying you should be flirting for 17 minutes or you should be, like, you know, for-play-- - For-play, yeah. So basically, once the tenting process, once that clock starts, the woman starts social tent. So even if a woman's wet, it does not mean she's ready. It's just that it's part of the process. Then the cervix actually moves, mechanically moves, it makes room for penetration. And so if you have sex before that, then it'll hurt. Then other things, like, the body is, you can-- So that's a mechanical process. You just can't, like, the woman can't be like, I'm gonna tent in three minutes. Like, it's a process that happens. - It's always 17. - It's like 17-ish. - On average. - 17 to 20. And then, like, there's also, like, nerve fibers in the body. It's like, if you, so if you're touching your partner, if you move fast, the body registers that as, like, oh, I feel a sensation to be in touch. If you move, I think it's something, like, below three centimeters per second, it communicates to a certain nerve fiber that that's intimate. So the speed of your touch slows it down. - Slows it down. - You've always been good at that. - I know. It's my best decision. - Yeah, she always says that he's a great toucher. - I would touch her. - She's always said, yeah. - Ever since I started kissing, doing anything with women, like, my reputation in, like, sixth grade was like, he's the best at feeling boobs. - Oh, you guys have a great touch. Even like, even like, just like, like, like, no, not in a, not in, like, a lot of special, I've known he's, he's a very, he's a, as a very good toucher. - Has an intuitive, amazing, very good touch. - 17 minutes slow touch. - Yeah, absolutely. - What else? - The nerve fiber. You'll have feedback when you do that, the nerve fibers. Well, then, that's why you get goosebumps. - Yes. - 'Cause the hairs stand up. All right, so you get this mechanical feedback from the body of you've done the right speed. You've got the feedback mechanism. And now, like, the tempting process is commencing. So then, let's go time. - Let's go time. - I know, what about once it starts? - We tell us some more about, we got 16 minutes to go. (laughing) - I like every detail that you care to give. - Yeah. - That was like, the nipple was connected to the clitoris. - Yeah, exactly. - So when you do nipple play, it's essentially the same as clitoris play. - How could that be? - Yeah, it's the same, it's the same wiring. - Okay, let me ask you this. I heard a rumor growing up that the male nipple was just as sensitive as the female nipple. Is that true? - I don't know. - That's pretty sensitive. - If this is what a clip feels like, you guys have no, it sucks being you guys. - You just don't have sensitive nipples. - But I heard that males and females have the same nipple sensitivity. - No, I mean more. - Women can have different sensitivity on their, but sure. - Keep going. - Okay, so nipples are the clit. - Yeah, so you do that 17 minute, yeah, but it is the clit. And so, but then, of course, you want to have like the right pressure. You don't want to make it, you know, so whatever the person's preference is. - Yes. - Yep. - No, you're a partner. - That's right. - We had 10. - Not common, bro. It's not like speed, but once it's in, like, is this better than this, or we don't know that. - We should do more research and really like, put out a book or something. - Yeah, I should do more research. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - What are you doing? - I think it's a lot of unknown questions. - There is so many answers. - It's a tip of that. - When I learned this, I wrote some soft porn. - What? - Of, yeah. - Your experience? - Yeah. - Basically, of seducing Kate. - Yeah. - No way. - You took note on how. - That wasn't as sweet. - It was a different long thing. - Oh, yeah. - If tomorrow, three other guys went on social media, it doesn't have to be us, but it could be. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Not us. Three other guys, and they started, you know, seeking the same thing and posting all about it, and they were really dynamic, and they had good personalities, and they reached start 'em. - Start 'em. - Yeah. - Would you be annoyed, or would you be happy to have more sets of data for humanity? - I'm happy. So people call all the time, and they're like, I'm gonna beat you. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Great. - Yes. - I'll help you. - Yes. - The goal. - Yeah. - Is that others beat me. - That's great. - So like, we're trying to basically like, if you think about the 25th century, all of the small mindedness of wanting power, wealth, and status as an individual, it doesn't matter. - Yeah, I agree. - We're playing this epic game of conscious existence. So it's like trying to move the species towards, and so, no, like, we want society to change, we want it to move into this new era of evolving, so yeah. - I wanted to know, 'cause we went over it. I wanted to know if you had to just boil it down right now, the 10 worst things you can do for your body right now, that's just like the first question. - Can I measure my brain while he asks his questions? - Oh, yeah, yeah. - What, measure your brain? - Yeah, I brought, yeah, I set it up. - It's gonna take a second. - He says that I can measure my brain. - What are we measuring? - I don't know. - His age. - His age? - Yeah, so look to your patterns. And it will give you an age, it will give you a number. - But don't you want to be older and wiser? Don't you want your brain? You want your brain to live a long time, but you want your brain to be full of wise knowledge? - What's your brain? - It's not necessarily the content of what's happening in the brain, but more like the activity. Like how we're bossing, how quickly evict. - How do you know a plasticity? - Yeah, you know how like you talk to someone who's older and you can, they slower and that. - Oh, you got a fast brain. - I do have a fast brain, but I did, I did, I smoked a little bit of, weed. - That probably will have some impact. - No, you can always retest again. - Okay, why not? - There's any negativity, it's all my, my the weed can make me seem older. - I'll take me, I'll take me like five minutes to set up, I'll be set up. - Would you set it up? - Yeah, I'll just set it up. - I'll just set it up. - Yeah. - Well, do you want to, we can all go over there. - Yeah, let's go over there. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And you're gonna tell me. - A part of me thinks it could just hurt my ego. - What about your face thing? Don't you want to say this? - I don't think they brought the face thing. - I don't want to know that. - We check the air in here while we're running. - Yeah, we also want to hear. - Yeah. - Not good. - This is the best thing I've ever had. - So do you guys avoid traveling because there's so much fear in here? - No, we don't. - It's probably full of my crossings. All at how I see it. These are things that are happening real-time, live shopping that I wouldn't even think about getting. How about some cars? cards, some unique cards, trading card type stuff, 'cause they got vintage things. They have just Rolexes, which is above my pay grade, but you know, I'm just saying, there's a wide variety of things that when you go on eBay Live, you can get. Yoda Action Figure sealed. That's my dog. I always love Yoda. I love his shape, and I love his physical size, but it's just fun, I don't know. Sometimes you don't wanna go inside and learn more about how much time you have left. You'd rather live in the moment, but every good thing comes to an end. It's fun in there, too. Okay, we're ready. Okay, so what's gonna happen is, it's gonna play music, and you're just gonna watch the video. We are in this epic contest, we're in told to watch, watch, watch, watch, watch, watch, watch. As of us, here's the day of tingles. (upbeat music) - And yet I go. - So as I've completed this task. - 72.4. - How's it going? - How's it going? - I'm about average. - Some of those vignettes were beautiful. - That's right, oh my God. - Oh my God. - The 90th of the time. - What does that mean that I'm young? - Yeah, that means that you're younger equivalent on average, yes, but that you're also in the top for your age group. - Does it have anything to do with doing Pilates? - It can't just general ability, like one of the big things as you get older is you can full, for example. - No, let's wait for it to upload. Great. - Oh, five, 10 minutes. - Cool. - Flexibility, they end up being really important. - Do you guys not use normal cleaning supplies? - Like, yeah, is this chemicals? - Which, yeah, so we made a list of like 200 things that kill you in life. Did you read some of them off for me? 'Cause I was just about to ask you the 10, I wanna know is the 10 top 10 worst things a person could do. Tell me them right now or I'll spray you with toxic chemicals. Is society kind of built itself to make profit and make things can be not with help in mind? So it's like why turf exists, for example. - We're getting rid of it. - Turf can be the top 10 though. - Okay, no, no. - I wanna know, top 10. - Yeah, top 10. - Right now I'm smoking the worst. - Yeah, cigarettes, alcohol, sugar, fried things. - What type, like, so refined sugars? - Yes, like, added sugars. - Yeah, added sugar. - Yeah, like, a diet coke. - Yeah, diet, yeah. - So no thing should have never have diet coke. - You should have sugar. - Yeah. - Try to avoid sugar altogether. - But I can eat like 10 pounds of strawberries. - Yes, yeah, berries are fantastic. - And when you say alcohol, like having a glass of wine. - Yeah, so it's like, like you, of course, can't make your life perfect, it's very hard. So if you're doing a trade-off space and wine is your thing, the thing you can do is helpful is to get awareable. You can apple watch or whoop or an aura or a garment. And then just do an experiment and see what happens when you drink wine and when you don't drink wine. And then what you might see is your heart rate go up, your sleep go down. And like, the thing that happens when your sleep goes down, your body can't clean itself. So during the day, your body accumulates all this junk. And when you sleep, it removes a lot of it. And so when you drink or something like that, it impairs your body's ability to clean up. And like the number one thing you try to do is get your sleep quality as good as possible. Like what Brian's saying, like things that may hit at home for me was if you get less than four hours of sleep, your NK cells, which are literally the cells that go through your body and they look for cancer. That's their job. They're like, finding cancer and they're like, oh, cancer, let's address it. Those deplete. How much, right? - 70%. - 70%. - If you get like four hours of sleep. - Yeah. - So that night, you miss a night of cancer surveillance. - Yeah. - Well said. - But how do we even know, you know? Then you see these people who are like, they know. - No, I'm saying like, my mom's best friend. Best friend. - Eat. - That's the normalies that you've ever seen. Triathlete, everything. And then just got cancer and died. - Exactly. So some people are better at processing sugar than other people. And you wanna know what you're good at and what you're bad at. And so like right now you just don't know, right? And that you don't wanna get caught off God with something like that 'cause like everyone's fallible to something. - How often like do you guys have moments of like, oh, like I wish I wasn't doing this? I know that you probably never globally are like ever considering giving up. So that's not my question. It's more just those micro like, oh, what a pain in the ass that I've chosen this path. - Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's, so I was, we were playing around like, I'm basically a tragic Greek character. - Yeah. - You know, like. - It's an honor. - Yeah, they're like, there's this idea of course that like I have imprisoned myself in my own world. - Yeah. - And I call it freedom. And it's like, it's the tragedy of our time of longevity. So that's the thing is that I'm very open to this being that I am a prisoner of this world that built. - Because in theory, the thing that you said that you had that spiritual thing when you took that drug, you don't have any idea that once you die, you're actually able to access that. I don't believe that at all or anything. But that's just, so really you could just be delaying the thing you're trying to get. - Yeah, yeah. - But he's showing it for the betterment of us to have the information and the data. - Totally agree. So you said four things, keep on going with me from me. - Well, I just wanna know, I have you here. - Yeah, so the thing is, I guess like generally speaking, the world is just toxic. And so, yeah, so like, for example, I never eat food from restaurants. - Really? - I just don't, I don't trust it. Yeah, I don't trust how they cook. I don't trust their materials. I don't trust their oils. I just don't, we've tested so much food. - Yeah. - We've just seen too much. And so we, and even like when someone's like, oh, but I've got like a cow in my backyard and it's, it's just pasture fed. They are not controlling the water supply. They can't control, there's, there's, there's just no safe place. - Did you used to like cow zones back in the day when you were a normal man? You were like, love that drunk meal or like that big meal, and you don't miss it? - Do you have dreams of it? - No, because like, honestly, yeah, I feel so bad when I do it. The feeling is so awful that I know I'm gonna feel awful for like six hours. And then I'm gonna, it's gonna mess up my sleep that I'm gonna be grumpy. - Five different times virtually all life has been wiped out off the earth. - Yeah. So you ever, you ever think like what's the point? 'Cause we're probably getting it wiped out before my contributions even. - So I love that question so much. - Thank you. - It's like, it's a bullseye. And this is the thing is like, maybe for the first time in history, we had the capacity to not be wiped out. - Yeah. - This is like, the insanity this moment is like, we would just be in humans on the earth, like we're pretty fragile, we're really helpless. When you build our AI, like we now have like, godlike abilities. - So you attribute it to AI? Like you're saying AI is really what the special moment is? - It's the only thing that matters right now. Literally it's the only thing that will matter right now. - What about music or comedy? Where did you guys meet? - I was working on this prototype. I essentially like, 2016, I had the same vision as Brian, like we need to merge humans and AI on in the next like 10, 20 years. - Where were you? - I was working fashion, living in New York. - Oh wow, not merge, not merge in health. - Exactly, and then I got, yeah, I essentially, Brian was one of the only people in the world working on that problem. And so I came out to Colonel to work with Brian. - So you just found him, like, are you just, mixed business in pleasure? - Yeah, so this is what actually happened. 2016, I was like, spent the whole year surveying who's working on this problem. - Where? - Just one guy. - Pretty much gave up. And then I got an email in my inbox that from Singularity University, I had a quote from Brian. Brian wasn't a well-known person at that time in terms of like social media presence. He had sold his business, had a lot of business success. And it said like something about merging humans with AI. And I was like, oh my fucking god, this is my person. And so I messaged him for five years, trying to go work at Colonel and never had back. And then eventually, you know, 'cause I was like in the fashion rounds, really hot to make that career pivot. Eventually kind of gave up everything. We've got to LA to come up with Brian. - We made you respond to the one email five years later. Do you even remember, like, did you see the first ones? - Yeah, well you're getting all these payments. - And ignoring them? - Yeah, I thought she's so persistent. - Yeah. - Was it like a mine thing? - Yeah. - Like how often do you send them? Like, oh, I mean, like every eight months. - Yeah. - Every eight months, so yeah. - Just checking in again. - And then when you saw where you were like, "Whoa!" (laughing) - We had a conversation and she's like, "I will literally do anything." Like, and she's like, "I don't know how to map fashion to brain tech." And she's like, "I'll do anything." And so I was like, "I can't really pay you much." And she's like, "I don't care." - And I was like-- - Like when you're wanting to pay. - Well, 'cause what was she gonna do? - Yeah. - I had no qualifications to make it seem like I'd be able to do that. But like, I was running a 70 person design team at the North Face, like managing a multi-million dollar budget, like had this like track that I was going on in corporate America. And so it was just this huge gap of like, is this gonna translate? - Yeah. - And I was like, "It's fine, just trust me." Like, it'll work out. And then, yeah, it came out to work with Brian. And then, like, a couple months in, he had been working on his health stuff getting like really particular. And I just had this idea coming to me in a weekend where I was like, "Why don't we make you a public science experiment?" Like why don't we make you this like Avatar and like we'll publish your stool samples your blood like I just a voyeuristic thing that people are from home and he and he was really private and yeah and he was like no and then like two days later he's like you know let's do it and so we spent a year and a half working diligently in the evenings after Colonel doing blooper in this project nothing romantic yet nothing because she she made you all right yeah she's the brand yeah yeah yeah yeah where a diet and so like that's the beauty because like we got a lot of pain like we we create like a love bubble between the two of us where it's like safe right and like all the hate from the extent it didn't really matter things went well and didn't well because we were just having fun yeah building something together and so for a year and a half we did that no one Kate gave a fuck about what we're doing this is before old virality and then in addition to that we were both really like high integrity people that we didn't tell each other that we had feelings one another yeah we kept it to ourselves you're working together yeah you felt like there was such as big there's so much risk yes okay keep going yeah sexual tension no talk about the 17 minute 10 yeah and then and then the project took off and we were at a conference we were presenting Colonel we were doing a bunch of brain scans and it was just too much you know I had I had fallen in love with her yeah yeah just she was like the dream person I'd had in my entire life yeah but like we we kept things really tight like we we never cross boundaries yeah you guys would love this yes tell us he was at that time like obviously really regimented right yeah well it's the most regiment oh oh I know but like it was back then too and but he had missed his bedtime this one time and so it was like 10 pm he'd been out socializing throughout this conference and I was I was done for the night I was like in my hotel room and he called me and he was like he essentially just like in this really soft roundabout way like I had feelings for you okay I was like me too so you were saying like I missed my bedtime I want you to come over the reason he wasn't like he was you know it was like he wasn't being regimented he wasn't always allowed to be free he was having his normal routine yeah that'll let go sometimes now we need him playing the martyr yeah but that's what happens everyone you should give yourself you should give yourself like one day a month he's already this far don't do it for us I like to see when the the human you that made me I just immediately looked at you in a completely different light oh yeah yeah he's he's like that like people think that he's not that but he is and and even like the I don't know we're yeah no we're just having fun okay wait so okay so he tells you he has feelings it's 10 pm what happens next well so I say like okay I I want to know stop tenting us let's go I have a next it's 10 a 1 no that's it I tell him he's right and we we talked about it we're just both like wow that we're so nervous making that phone call yeah you thought like she could be like how dare you it's like it's so inappropriate yeah you have your monitor on when you were doing it your sleep score was probably so bad that heart rate yeah did you like did you dance around it like where you like so like or was it just like blunt was it just like blunt about it so careful yeah yeah just in case you got an inkling of like her not feeling the same way yeah yeah so yeah did you guys have to see each other after you said that and still nothing yes yeah yeah like we didn't like we kept boundaries really really clean yeah so you just we're in love with each other but didn't you do any yeah for how long a while yeah you didn't even kiss even no even after you admitted that you both had feelings we wondered why it'd be very like appropriate what night did you kiss I was still working you know technically the whole Brian yeah time and then like so if I actually moved over to be full time at our company blupper and so that we could kind of like cleanly have this relationship and like stop from scratch yeah so then what happened yeah I want to know when it was a long long was it where you feelings acknowledged and no no physical boundaries crossed how about how many weeks like a couple of months yeah yeah and then what happened but what was the break moment where you're just like okay like I'm gonna kiss you now you like your monitor on how do you go from not kissing at all to kissing and now you write like sex exposes like totally I don't know I feel like um well so Brian grew up woman and I feel like ah his his heart is so pure yeah and so I feel like it wasn't like any other dating experience I've ever had where it's just like people look gross out there you know they can be really agree I don't so I feel like he was so sweet he like brought me little like handwritten notes like I should like do you want to go out with me like it was really really soon unlike anything I expected expected so it was a very soft slow like snowball yeah yeah okay but do you remember the first time you guys kissed or something yeah yeah I know you do I don't okay what did you make her like were you like wearing lip gloss that was like um not toxic it is you like life's greatest joys are the ones that you work the hardest for and that have the most tension and so when we kissed it was just like years of tension yeah manifesting itself yeah it's like you know you you like you see on screen like this yeah it was Magnificent oh you I kiss my my wife I kiss for the first time after knowing her for nearly 20 years yeah wow yeah we kissed for the first time outside of the fridge we were leaning against the fridge yeah yeah yeah it was cool how that happened just flirtation and dating and food we were like three dates and I didn't make a move after the first two dates making the move is tough I mean I wouldn't wait a month but I like that I was really nervous that he was going to make a move and I was like not that I don't want them to I just didn't know how to navigate it and the fact that he didn't I feel like I was like oh this is safe like you don't have to to me like having to dodge yeah yeah I just like you waited one day yeah he's a today you know I can feel I can feel anything that I've seen on you online that it's funny because in person you especially on here I think because a lot of things are like very scientific that I see you on you have a really sweet demeanor to you that I think sometimes doesn't even come across come across to me I've always found it no no yeah but it's we can see it it's it's it's very different in person you I can tell you it's different for me I can I can tell after this though for me you're going to blow up that no that I think like I think I feel like before this I didn't know what your intentions and reasonings were and now after hanging out with you I feel completely different and I feel like I'm like I want to like put you on my shoulders and like with everyone yeah I just I I yeah I you have you have a very sweet tone to you yeah you have a sweet presence yeah you're like pure presence yeah you got a nice space it's a good smile Christian let's talk about wafer I would love to talk about wafer let me tell you one specific thing I really like about wafer as a person who does a lot of online shopping a lot of like looking for furniture I immediately scroll to the bottom and you can see all the reviews there's so many reviews and that's how I decide if I'm gonna buy the product I would never buy a product that wasn't reviewed often and wafer actually has 20 million five star reviews and I also understand called wafer verified which is hand vetted by product specialists with a 10 point quality inspection and I take all those reviews seriously and I love when there's like multiple pages of them which wafer gives you a great place to shop join wafer rewards today take it 5% back on every purchase and start saving on all your next home upgrades head to wafer.com to shop all things home that's w-a-y-f-a-i-r.com wafer every style every home Kate is like she's such a masterpiece of the human and so like I'm I'm this weird broken oddball broken and she's like yeah I'm like complicated I'm a very complicated human but she's taking me and she just has me in this this comfy confident warm place where I feel fine doing it all wow that's so sweet I feel like that's that way with you well that's cool do you think it's very comfy do you think the reason why you guys did like do you think do you feel it and you totally don't have to answer this for you do you feel like she like opened you up like also like sexually and that's why you're like so no no these things are like these things he says I'm like they're crazy yeah me like if you okay so before this I didn't want to be public I didn't I didn't want to publish my heart data publicly yeah fast forward two years later I'm posting nudes really on the internet penis uh not yeah um covered covered your penis uh yeah and then also you like livestreamy psychedelics yeah yeah yeah and um like doing blood transfusions and like just like every every place base we can find where to say let's do it and that is absolutely not the person I was before I met her wow do we - I feel like you guys aren't doing it alone. The two of you are doing it together, so it's less scary to put yourself out there. - Yeah. - When I say I have an idea, and she's like, that's a bang, everyone else would be like, I don't know about that. - Like that tweedy like, just had sex good night. - Yeah, it had sex in Kate. I got like some like 40 million views. Like we had just had sex, and he's like, "Should I tweet this?" And I'm like, "Yeah." - Yeah, you have a very free spirit, but very like logical. - Very logical. - You can go back and forth, which is a good mix to have. Do you have a sense of pressure? 'Cause like, let's say you're outside, and like someone would just see you doing something that even sounds like, or like, they saw you walking around and you didn't have the umbrella, or they saw you like eating a Twix bar, or they saw you like, do you feel like there's like so much pressure in that regard? - We're, I mean, we've gone to a place of notoriety where we can't go anywhere in any circumstance, anywhere in the world, and not be recognized immediately. - Yeah. For me. - Yeah. - Right, like you're always-- - I was joking, but I appreciate it. - Yeah. - I am recognized domestically. - No, my parents were just in Sicily and they, the people came in. - But I didn't mean that. - Yeah, I mean, how do you feel about it? - I like it 'cause it's just people ultimately shower me with respect and praise, and I'm not like anti-social. So, and it's not like, I think there's a threshold of it, like with like maybe Selena, where it's like way, it's the, there's this like, when you cross this line, it gets really like, you can't really go anywhere without crowds happening. That is kind of a 10 people in the world experience that. - Yeah. - Yeah, I don't think either one of us, so you probably are more likely because you have humanity on your back. - There's so many my existence, you know? So yes, it's a microscope wherever I'm at. - But you have, do you think because, I don't know how Mormon you were when you were growing up, but that feels like, like that kind of, that help you with restrictions, 'cause it's kind of like a restricted place. Like you have within you the ability to kind of say no to a lot of life's temptations. - Yeah, I think so. - Yeah, I probably set you up for this a little bit. - Yeah, I probably built some good brain muscles of being able to resist, yeah, to forego pleasure. - Yeah. - Yeah, well, you look at my brain scans, that the part of the brain that is responsible for habit formation and habit keeping, I mean, the 99th percentile. - I believe that. - I have a question. So I have like, insane willpower. Like when I say I'm gonna do something like, I can't like, I have like, insane organizational and willpower and like, it's like to a fault. I like, I don't even like it that much. Would that show up in one of your brain? I would. - Yeah. - What about positive thinking? Like, where do you stand in longevity for like, being not like mindful, but they say like, - Like optimistic. - Just like the thoughts in your own head. - It's legit, yeah, it's a longevity therapy. So then, isn't what you're doing though, also, kind of making up your, it's pessimistic because with something, let's say you measure a thing and it says like 3.4 and you're like, oh no, I gotta go. - No, no, no, talk about how you talk to yourself in your head, right? - Yeah. - But do you practice like, you know, you do all the work physically and all that, but do you do like work for the mental shit or do you not? - Not really. - Yeah. - Do you, you don't do any therapy? - But don't you think that's a data point that like might have a thing? - You can't. - Yeah, she's trying to get me to the therapy. - I think you should. - This is, I think every person should. - Yeah. - Every person should at least explore it. I think because there's so much, 'cause especially from like your old life, your old, before you started living so clean, like even if you think you have like, like I'm a very happy person. I'm like, I wake up every day, I'm stoked. I'm like, it's very hard to rattle me. I don't usually get angry, but it's like going to the dentist. They can still find like that little plaque and they pull it out and you're like, where was that? And I've found it to be very helpful. And I think it's, even just an experiment. Like you're a man of experiments. - Yeah. - I wanna know the data points of like, because they say you are what you eat and you're food and all of this stuff impacts your brain. So I wanna know like what you, like I wonder if you're like baseline for emotion is healthier and you probably maybe don't experience it as much because your insides are healthy and your outsides are healthy. Like we need that data point. You might have to know the therapy just for us. - Yeah, for the experiment. - Not just therapy, but also, I mean, I don't do any of this stuff, but like meditation or whatever like people say, like mental health, you know, I just feel like if that is a big thing and your brain and your happiness are impacting longevity, I just feel like maybe you're leaving a little bit on the table. - Yeah, it's a good point. - Yeah, you gotta give us the data. - What's your workout do you do? Bench press. - He also goes fast. - Your chest is huge. - You got a six pack? - I do. - Do you work out every day? - No, not for. - Yeah, we do fat before. - It was fat. - Really? - Yeah. - What about laughter? 'Cause I find it fascinating that all of humanity laughs. - Yeah. - You laugh in the day. - Yeah. - It's probably good. - And I just think that's probably a good thing for the human soul. - Yeah. - Any studies? - Yeah, I have to imagine it's a very positive therapy. You have to imagine that like sex, that you probably wanna laugh as much as you can. - Probably true. - I'm gonna check the brain. I'm gonna look at the brain scan thing. But it's a black screen, isn't it? - It says 68 years old. - Speaking of longevity. - A long ball. You know what I'm talking about? I'm talking about the dinner, the Homer, the daily dinner on Fandall predicts. You know, you can go on Fandall predicts and you can predict who's gonna hit a bomb that day. And if you win and you predict the right man that hits the right denger, you will get a profit boost. You just go on the Fandall predicts happen. There's all types of games and there's all types of men who are capable of hitting dengers. Now, in my situation, I certainly look right at the Phillies. They're my squad. They got guys on that team that straight up mash. And I don't even know how I'm allowed to name names, but I don't have to name names 'cause you know who these men are. That's how good they are at just fucking crushing the ball. Didn't or predicted. Now I'm gonna go find out the results of my brain. Okay, then I gotta ask. I got so many more questions on this thing. - I know, I know, I know. I need like 24 hours. - I don't need 24 hours. I don't need them. - Oh, hey. - Oh no. - What is it? - So it's not good. I mean, how often are people older than their age? - That's okay. - What is it? - It happens. - I'm 41 and a half years old in the brain, but I smoked. - That's not bad, that's not bad. - That's not bad. - Come by, we're just gonna name names. - We're just around the corner. - You heard too much people your age. - So most people are older. So I'm, you're saying it's saying that most people, or our stuff's better now. - We'll send you like the more-- - Our stuff, you could do a much more dense. - Hey! Look at that. We did it so many tabs. - There's so many tabs. - Yeah. (laughing) - I've never seen. - Yeah. - Too many tabs, I think. They gotta work on your tabs. - How are my brain is? - Maybe you should hire us to come in and clean up your life a little. We gotta find the things. - I think you did, you guys. - You made some sound points. - A lot of, a lot of your points today. - I think your open-mindedness, considering you're signing up for such a rigidity, that combined with such an overwhelming open-mindedness is what makes it all so special. - Yeah. - Yeah. - And so you can't help but respect it. - And that you're really doing it, I mean, it really, like I would never be able to do that. You're like giving up a piece of your life. - Right. - Yeah. - For the service of all of us. - Yeah, it's cool. I like it. And I kinda, you know, not, like I'm shocked that no one's done it before. Probably the same way you guys are probably shocked that no one's ever done a podcast the way that we do it. - Right. (laughing) - That's why we do that. - Yeah. - I'm not shocked because I think it's really hard to fucking do. Like, there's a reason people don't do that. - Is there any guys you see and you're like, oh, that guy's like an up-and-coming guy. Like, you ever see a guy, you're like, oh man, he's like spending his life. - Day of, he said day of. - Spending his life, no, no, health man. - Like the new Brian, like the people who like, I'm gonna be the Brian Johnson as well. - Day for the dance, right? I feel like a bunch of guys are probably following in your footsteps now. - Yeah, there are. - Do you see any of them, you're like, oh my God. - Yeah, we have groups all over, like in 132 countries. So yeah, it's a whole thing. - Do you ever mean a guy in your blown away by like the statistics he's done on his body, where he's like kinda close to you. So maybe you sprinkle a little microplastic in his smoothie. - So it's interesting that people in, people in their like late 20s or 30s usually don't bite very hard 'cause they're like, they're working very hard in their careers and whatnot. People, like on this kind of stuff on their own. - Yeah, they're like demand. - I'm thinking. - Right, like literally. - People in their 40s, 50s, 60s, they really like it because they're hurting from aging. So like it means something to them. And then you find kids. So like 10, 11 through late teens, they really get into it. And so what you find is when we talk to students of that age, they just naturally, they grow up, and they just, this naturally makes sense of them. Like why would I eat sugar? Like why would I kill myself with these things? - Yeah. - And so you just find very different responses according to age and context. - Yeah. - But yeah, there's people all over the world where, I guess what I'm saying is, there are kids we've talked to who their entire identity is don't die. - Wow. - And that's just how they are. And so to me, that's what gives me most motivations. Like the generation coming, they're very different than what has been, where you have a yellow mentality. - Yes. - That's what I love seeing. - I like. - Yeah, you got to see the spoon. - This goes in water? - Can you give me this recipe for free? - That's too much. - That's good. - How am I gonna taste it? - I like this. (laughing) - Let me smell it. - Smell it. - Is it just smells like chemicals? It means smell. Whatever you had, why don't you think you feel bad? - I would, yeah. - You want to eat? - I want. - So he said, we would get-- - Doesn't smell like chemicals. - Doesn't it? - Yeah. - Chili cheese fries, and I have like three or four. How's it going? - Yes, yeah, it's good, it's really good. - I mean, his body's toxic anyway. - I mean, my insides are like tar. - When he poops, it looks like confetti or water. - Oh, I want to show him the video where I'm going to even die right now. - I'm going to finish this story. - So I ate a surprise, and then I got so sick. For an hour, I was just sick. My stomach was grumbling, I had diarrhea. It was just like-- - Yeah, that's the day of every day. - Really? - Yeah. - I mean, cavemen used to be healthier. I mean, they weren't, they didn't have as good enough, we didn't have all of the like medicine stuff, but they weren't putting chemicals in their body and the air wasn't as polluted, right? - Yeah, but they died so young 'cause they didn't have any advance. - Yeah. - So I have a don't die guy guide for you. I have all the foods that are best performing. - Yeah, but you're right here. - That's how-- - Yeah, so legumes. - Okay. - Veggies. - Yep. - Berries, nuts, seeds. - Okay. - Extra virgin olive oil. - Okay. - That's my dreadfuls. - That's it. - Yeah. - The concept is every calorie fights for its life. It's like there's no calorie that just slips through of like it's a nice to have. Every single calorie has to be a high ranking on the evident scale. And so rice is fine, just like there's other foods that pack higher nutritional density. - Yeah, it's potato. - So like we, yeah, so these are all like, you know, high-- - Like this was so good. I could give up everything and just eat this. That's pretty much all you eat, right? - Yeah, if that is a very standard meal, yes. - Tell me, you're top three things you miss. And then I have one other question and then Dave's gonna show you his shit. (laughing) - Oh no. - Oh no. - Well, do what he said in order though. What he said, top three things that you miss. - I miss staying out late with friends. You know, like going hard on a night with friends. - Yeah, having fun. - Just like, you don't care about when-- - Funk it. - You don't care about when that ends? - Brooklyn raves. - Yeah, yeah. - We used to do Brooklyn raves. - Do you know what we should do for you? We should create one during the day. - Yeah. - We should make a day club instead of a night club. - I'm with you. - Yeah. - For all the guys like you out there. (laughing) - And they have reverse osmosis on a peg on top. - Yeah. - I'll make it for you for your birthday. - Does she ever have, do you ever do like a day off where you're just like, oh, I'm doing all the bad shit. - Very rarely. When I go home to my mom, I don't make my mom cook something else, yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - You guys face time and you just have like Dorito (laughing) - We actually were thinking about doing a funeral. 'Cause like, there's a lot of people really dislike me. - Why? - I wonder why that is. - Yeah, I mean, I understand. - I understand. 'Cause I think it's, you kind of represent, we all know that we're not healthy. And we all know that we have to make changes, and it's really hard to have the will, it's almost like you kind of represent what everybody wants to avoid. Like, we wanna be healthy, we wanna do all the things, but we don't want it to be work, and we don't wanna give up what we don't like. So I think it's just like this innate fear of like, you represent responsibility and the fact that we can't, I mean, not to the degree that you are, but we can take action, and people are avoiding of that. - But it's also, yeah, it's just the internet. I think you're just speaking to the internet, and they're like, this is a rich guy, you can afford it. - Yeah, you're in a good shape, and like, yeah. - It is awesome, though, that like, how much did the stars align? That like, like, if you didn't have money, you couldn't have done it. - Totally. - Yeah, right? Like, this thing costs a hundred million dollars. Like, it's like, the stars fully aligned for you to be the longevity man. - But you still have to give up a lot, as if you were still working a really hard job. - Yeah, so the funeral idea is like, we want to invite people who hate me and us, and we want them to like, have voice, you know? Like, have them get up and speak and be like, "This guy's awful." - No, I don't want it. - No, I don't want it. - And find your friends and family, and have a good positive. - There's no reason to hate. We're here with you guys, there's absolutely no reason to hate you guys, you're doing stuff for all of us. - Do people ever try to tear you apart when you go to an interviewer now? - Yes, I've seen it. - Oh yeah. - I've seen it. - Yeah. - I've seen it. - What do you mean? - People just, it's just the way of the world, and the way of human behavior where they're just like, what's the catch? It's also selling things so people are gonna be like, how much can I trust? - But he didn't even sell the thing. He's the guy you could trust the most. He doesn't need the money, he's selling it 'cause he wants it. - In 2039, we're all gonna be like, thank God for that. - You're doing this shit, right? - Oh, cool shit. - Oh yeah, I mean. - We built this for us. - Yeah. - Okay. - Okay. - Take a look at that. - I didn't know what we need to do. - No, look, look. - It's terrible. - You don't want to see it, you don't want to see it. - What? - Okay, go. - Out of the two of us, I'm far more-- - And also, don't want to push this on you, you can't see any, like, butthole or like any nudity, but you can see. - It's the worst go, you can see. - Exit my body. - And I think he was sick. - He got COVID the next day. - He was sick, this is just like how we read it. - Almost every day. - This is the day before COVID. - I see him shaking very often. - Are you proud of it? - I'm so proud of this video. - Oh, okay. - The footage. - No, the footage, yeah. - I'm gonna use the restroom out of the poop, are you proud of the poop? - No, this is how we do. - No, this is wrong. - That's diarrhea or confetti poop. - Is it when you're wearing a pink suit? - I just want to know how we should respond to it. - It's just like your child. - No, he has confetti poop. - Don't even think about your response. - Yeah. - But it is a showcase of just what something's wrong with me. - I'm scared. - I'm just room-- I'm actually just scared. - Oh, God. Oh, God. - Oh, my God. [laughing] - Oh, my God. No, no! - It looks like a bad guy. - No! - That's what it happens all the time to me. - That's bad, right? - No! - Isn't that bad? - No, I really-- - It's not supposed to look like that. - No. - No. - It was also so dark. - I know, it's always like that. - The way it was, I'm proud of the way the footage was captured. It's like there's like a movie. - It was. - It was. - It was, it was a magic. - It was odd. - It was odd. [laughing] - Are you scared for him? - I'm scared. [laughing] - Hey, that's good for your longevity. You're laughing. - Yeah. - Oh, no. - Anyways. - That made me feel sicker than I anticipated it would. - We're going live, eBay live. - Ooh, tell me more. - Well, you know eBay, you know the brand. - I know the brand, I love brand. - You know the brand. - Beauty. - You know, you want an item, you go to eBay. - Bid or buy now? - They don't live. - Now they have live. - Live auctions. - Like you can see it. - Yes, like all this right now, like this is what it's like. - Oh wow. - Look at that, let them see. This is all live. - It's a fun community event. - It's a fun community. They got all types of cards, like-- - I love rookie cards, I love rookie-collect rookie cards. - Um, sports cards. - That's right, sports cards. And actually don't even have any rookie cards. I just wish I did. - Oh, yeah. - Who's a rookie? - Who is, everyone was a rookie, it's kind of the four. So like, for example, I wish I had like a-- - It would go and be true a rookie card. - I'll be true, it would go wrong. - Maybe do they have like the opposite of a rookie card where it's like the end card? - No, that's a good idea though. - The end. - eBay live is live, interactive shopping on the eBay app. Watch live, shop live. Anyways, so they-- - Did you guys like it? - It was a lot of cards. - She said it was art, but she feels a lot thicker than she thought she would. - I have to say, I have to clear the air on this. You had COVID at the time. - This is what, no, this is what he-- I have seen-- - I live with the man. - Here, I'll show, I got about 1,400 other examples. Would you like to see-- - No, that one was specifically terrible. - They all look like that, they look-- - There was a good one that I did in there. - Yeah. - And I swore to God, I filmed it, and literally the walls had shit on it. - No. - He hit the wall. - He was amazing and I was so powerful. - He has true speech. - He is really, really bad. - It's a good-- - Your sphincter muskies are-- - Yeah, your muskies are. - There's two speeds. He has two speeds. It's straight water, or it looks like-- - Different dots. - Like this. - Yeah, yeah. - No, smaller. - That's like rabbit, no. - There's two on the-- - That's bad, right? - Fristalski. - Every now and then, it's like long fin snakes. - Yeah, I've never seen anybody eat the way he eats. Like it's truly, he does not eat, and it's against his will. - I've committed you are to the eating well, I seem equally committed to eating not well. - He will not say any fruit or any vegetable. - Just taste it, just like-- - I love you. - Just taste it. - I was doing a change. - I've only eaten one bean, one single bean. - Yeah. - Yeah, he doesn't eat anything. - I tried it in a parking lot one time. It was surprisingly neutral in flavor. - Yeah, so-- - Yeah. - I have to avoid them because the gas is so bad for me, but then I did recently learn that-- - No, it's just how you cook. - So come. - Yeah, you got so come. - Oh, guys. - Really? - Yeah, this is fun, you guys. - I had so much fun. - I had so much fun. - Yeah, thank you for coming. - Thank you for coming. - I guess it's a sex-form gas. - Well, you guys were all the very warm. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - No, no. - How do we do? How do we do, you go on so many of these? Was this, is this peak level? - For sure. - Did you feel that as a man who has been or not things, this one stand out as a-- - By far. - It stood out. - How would you rate it out of 5? - 10, 10, 10. - Yeah, this is the coolest, this is the best time we've ever had. Is it really? - Yeah, yeah. - Absolutely. - Can I say I'm out to camera B? - No, I'm just standing here. - No, no, no, no, it's true. - It's really great. - It's so much better. - Look at us. (upbeat music) - Offered by Fandall Protection Markets LLC, a registered futures commission merchant, 18 plus bonus is not withdrawable and expire seven days after receipt. Trading derivatives involves significant risk and may not be suitable for all investors. Manage your activity with our consumer protection tools, restrictions apply. See terms at fandall.com/predict/bonus-offer-terms.