The Bryan Johnson & Kate Tolo Episode

So why don't you tell everyone- Chuck, shut up. No? You don't think you owe people an explanation? I just found out that I'm very allergic to bees. So what happened to your foot? You got stung by a bee? I got stung on the bottom of my foot and for six days my foot looked like the Nutty Professor. And now it's slowly starting to come back and I'm starting to get feeling in it again. But apparently I have to carry an EpiPen now. My God. I know. Did you look like Mr. Clumps? Yeah, I look like Sherman Clump. Should I be carrying an EpiPen, just? Yeah, as his friend. Chuck, you dress cool today. Now, I don't know if you realize this, but your buttons are all one off. Oh, are they? Yep, Chuck, fully one off, yeah. Wow, but it might look better. Yeah, it kind of looks cool. Actually, I think- You like it? Yeah, I think it looks way better. Hey, guys. Hey! How's it going? Good to see you. Your hand, I can't, I can't, I can't, my back, my back. Okay. My God, my God. You're a martyr. I am a prisoner of this world I've built. What is this? What's the point of this? This world is just toxic. Oh, God, you're- I wrote some soft porn of seducing Kate. Whoa. We now have God-like abilities. Talk about sexual tension. Yeah, I see him smiling. When she came out, you're like, hello, welcome. Oh my God, no, no. I just wanna let you guys know that they haven't cleaned the air filters here in about 15 years. Oh, yeah. And we got, we have a very low level of anthrax pumping through the- Throughout the house? The air. Did we bring our- Yeah, I think, I hope so. Okay. We might be able to actually prove if that's true or not. Yeah. I hope it's false. I would like to know, I think. Yeah. I think I would like to know. We brought- Can you prove everything? We brought my gadgets. We can prove a lot. Wow. Ooh. What do we got going on? Yeah. Look, did you make that? No. Who did? What is this? What's going on? What's going on? We brought your food. I'm hungry. I just thought we were going to have for breakfast. We brought you guys food. We brought some biological age measurement devices. So- I don't want to die. I don't. That's a good attitude. I don't want to die. I actually- Are you scared of death too? Are you in good company? I live every day- I fear death. You do. Where I feel like you guys maximize for longevity. Longevity. Longevs. I maximize for fun every day. Yes. Like, every day I want to be like, if I didn't have a great, because what if I die tomorrow? It's true. Like, I can't restrict myself. I feel like if there's two people that are really giving into their every whim, no, not you. I'm saying, unlike them, you're more like, we are giving into our every impulse as far as like- Oh, I thought you were saying someone who wakes up and has the best day and most productive day. No. I'm saying, in the way that you're optimizing every single health thing you can do, we are totally ignoring that to such a- Oh, yeah. Especially me. Yeah, they are, for sure. Maybe not as much you. You too. Yes. You too. I would like to make the most of life. Do you guys drink wine? No. Do you guys eat- Mm-hmm. Pasta? No. Hmm. Do you guys eat sugar? No. No. Okay, so what do you eat? What are you doing every day? We're- We brought you. Actually, we brought you a full meal. Yeah. Okay. This looks incredible to me. Yeah, and then this also is incredible. What's in that? What is that one? This is macadamia nuts, walnuts, flaxseed, pomegranate juice, blueberries, raspberries, blackberries, and yeah. You're naming all my favorites. It's the water substance. Yeah. Are you allergic to anything? Are you doing- Macadamia nut milk. Oh, so it's macadamia nut milk. Yeah. Yeah. We take mac nuts and we actually blend it. Yeah. Yeah. Mac nuts. I need to know more about the way that you guys eat and live. Do you really. What do you indulge in? Do you indulge- Nothing. Yeah, nothing. The whole premise is no indulge. Berries. I love berries. Yeah, we're happy. Well, why did you say, "Yeah, yeah, we're happy"? Because it's like, no matter what I say, no one's going to believe if I say, "Yeah, I'm happy." You seem happy. You guys are glowing. That's good. Both of your skin is enough for me to give up everything except wine in my life and follow your path. I like that. I think that's good. I feel like they can- Yeah. Oh my God. Okay, let's taste this. It's too much, Dave? The texture's not going to work? You can hear it. It's not going to work, yeah. I can hear that crunch. Do it for the show. I think I'm. I like what I'm doing for the show. Do it for the world. I like what I'm doing for the world. I'm being myself and I'm free. Do it for your future kids. Question. Yes. If someone was going to change their life tomorrow, give us a crash course in like two minutes. Well, it could be longer than two minutes. You can take as much- No, I'm good. I'm good. Two hours. Here's the two minute crash course. People get overwhelmed, so you can't give them more than one thing to do. Yeah. It's like too much. Yeah. The thing we tell people to do is lower your heart rate before bed. Here's the thing. Here's what makes your heart rate elevated. Before bed, it's food, screens, alcohol, weed. Okay. Food, anxiety, work, scrolling, TV watching, blue light. What else is there though? And fights. A lot of the things that you named sound like every night. Yeah, exactly. That's why it's so tricky. When you go through the list, it's like, "Okay, so this food is good for you," and people are like, "Great," but it's so hard to implement, but really the crux of life is how you sleep and how you feel. How you feel? How you feel. Because how you feel in life- Mentally. How you feel in life, mentally, is based upon how you sleep, and so everything is built around sleep. Aren't you very pro Cialis and stuff? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Every man, probably. This is not. Potentially women. Every man over 40 should be microdosed. Actually, man and woman over 40. What's Cialis again? Tadalafil. Like him. Dickhart. Dickhart. Oh, yeah. Okay. It's a longevity drug. Women can take it? Really? Okay, wait. Every man and woman should do what? Yes, but the mechanism is the same, so it should translate. It's a blood pressure drug, right? Blood flow. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. It basically helps your blood flow throughout the body, so. You take it every day? Yeah. Five milligrams every day. Probably is one of the very best longevity drugs that no one. Really? No one. So few people are doing it. Everybody should be doing it. Everybody should be taking penis pills to make. I mean, this is not medical advice. Yeah. The evidence is men over 40, that's where the bigger studies are, but it's clearly applicable to men in their 30s, too. It's not clear whether men in their 20s would do well. That's not clear. Women, it would be applicable. So it's not clear at what point and for whom, but generally speaking, it's one of the best longevity drugs in the world. What is the point of having good blood flow? It's like. Do you know that men with ED, erectile dysfunction, that can pre-find things at cardiac events by three to five years. Wow. Because the penis has smaller blood vessels than the rest of the body, and so it's the first thing to show up when problems happen. Yeah. So it's all about blood flow, and that's why it should work for women. It should work for women just as well as it works for men, because we have blood vessels, too. Yeah. That's why men should measure their nighttime erections. See if they're. Yeah. How much fluctuation is there in a boner? A lot. Lots. Do you know what I. As you get older. Yeah. A healthy 20-year-old will have nighttime erections in the range of around two and a half to two hours from 45 minutes per night, five erection episodes, and then each one is graded on a scale from zero to 100. Coffee? Coffee? Is that terrible? Yeah, do you guys drink coffee? I like coffee. Coffee's good. Coffee's good. Do you drink caffeine? I'm going to have a cup. Great. Yeah. Yeah, have a cup. I don't drink any caffeine. I don't either. Oh, you don't either? I don't do caffeine. I do decaf coffee. So you don't do caffeine? No. Why? How bad is weed? Is weed bad? It generally does not score high on nearly anything. Yeah. Fun level. Fun level scores very high. Mushrooms? That is very relevant. What is it? Brian Livestream doing psilocybin. Oh, yeah. I saw something about that. Yeah. Tell me about your experience. I'm interested. Yeah. So the goal is trying to find things that extend life. Yes. And there was a study that showed that mice had their lives extended by psilocybin, the active in magic mushrooms. And so we did the world's most quantified experiment on psilocybin. So we measured like 250 biomarkers on my body and my brain, and then we did three doses of 25 milligrams of psilocybin, and we live streamed it. Were you scared? Yeah. Tell us what happened. Yeah. So the whole point of the study is we think that psilocybin is a legitimate contender as longevity therapy. Yeah. I like that. It's not just about tripping. But we had evidence in terms of like it was good for blood glucose, it was good for my microbiome, it was good for. We had this really long list, very surprised that this ancient medicine that's used in rituals and then also used as a party drug was also this hidden thing about longevity. So. I'd say that what seemed real when I was in there is when you go into that world, that world is as real as this world. Yes. And it feels like there's a conversation happening there, just like there is happening here. And it's a much deeper conversation, but it feels as real. So it's almost like inception. Are you the same person here, but you're in a different reality that you can see things that you couldn't see in this reality? I think nonstop about existence. Yes. Me too. Consciousness. Yes. I can't stop thinking about it. So when I go there, the thing that seemed clear to me is we are in this epic contest for intelligent life. We are conscious on this planet, we are giving birth to artificial intelligence, it's becoming very powerful and it's growing, increasing at a speed that we can't quite comprehend. And this moment is just epic. It's beyond our capacity to understand. That makes sense. We don't understand how precious our existence is. We kind of live in it. of life, and we live until we're in our 70s, and then we die, and so we kind of YOLO our way to optimize how I feel and what I want to get done and our power, status, wealth games. But when you're in that world, it just feels like there's this game being played of epic proportions. Well, also, Brian, a couple months later, live streamed doing 5-MeO-DMT. Okay, and then what's the deal with that? It's the strongest psychedelic on planet Earth. Was it similar to the first experience or totally different? Totally different. What happened? It is the crown jewel of conscious existence. I cannot put into words what it's like. Try. It's not possible. You experience raw consciousness. It leaves you absolutely stunned, and honestly, I would say I feel like it was the biggest accomplishment of my entire life was that, because when you get in there, so I wore the Bray interface, and what happens is. Your prefrontal cortex wants to be in control of your narrative of who you are. Like, you are you, I am me, and we have this barrier between us, and this drug, or this psychedelic, basically blurs, and then what it does is it basically says, you need to release control. So you need to say yes to existence so deeply, like just yes, and keep on going down, and at the same time, you're on the verge of losing your mind. Yes. The panic is so real. I hate panic, though. I hate it. But this would be a good exercise for you. How does this work for you? Because you're a man who wants full control of everything. Not really. Yeah, I think that's like a misconception. What do you mean you control every part of your entire life? I feel like that's a misconception about Moran. Like, going into this experience, because a lot of people thrash, they scream, it's like quite a horrific thing to observe someone doing this substance, and I had zero fear going into it, just because I know Brian's brain. He's similar. He's coming. He's coming. Looking at the control thing from a perspective of having been in the throes of life and gone through so much darkness, that it's actually not about control, it's about like, you know when someone in your life dies, something tragic happens, and you're really sober to every moment, and then for a week, you live life where every second matters? Yeah. This is his equivalent of living life every second matters. It looks like control, but it's like. Why do you do it all? Immortality. Yeah. I think this is the biggest moment in the history of the human race, where humans have always died, and now with AI, we are at the first time in the history of the human race where we may be the first generation who won't die, but it's not about immortality. It's not about a selfish desire. It's that we have the chance of being stewards and caretakers of existence, of carrying this thing forward, and we're just on the verge of evolving into a new species. I like that. But what changed, what made you, like, you were living life as a very normal man, like I've looked at your past, you were like completely normal man, doing things that were probably bad for you, like having a hard job, having stresses. What made you change, like what was like the moment where you were like, oh my God, I have to change what I'm doing right now? Or was it a thing that happened very gradually over a long period of time? It was, so when I was 21, I decided I was going to become an entrepreneur, make a whole bunch of money. And then try to do something useful in the world. And I, it took me 14 years. I got there, I sold my company, and we made a couple hundred million dollars. And then it was this question of like, what do you do? Should we switch to it? We can go to the couch. You want to go to the couch? Let's do that. I'll sit on the floor. Do you have seats that you always sit in? We do have seats we always sit in. This couch is soft. It's got lots of forever chemicals in it, though. Okay, so when you describe, when you describe. He was in the middle of it. I know, I'm going to go right back to where we were. Okay, okay. When you describe this different species. species of humanity, and you say AI is the thing that's allowing us to get to that. Are you envisioning AI allowing us to do, be smart enough to preserve ourselves? Or are you imagining some sort of hybrid machine-based human combined organism? Yeah. No one knows. Oh, so it was a good question. Okay, I need to, he deviated us from the question that I was, I thought you were getting me to the. Well, he didn't know. My question was so good that he has no idea what the answer is. No, you were explaining. Why you did, you were 21 years old, you decided you wanted to make a lot of money to do something good for the world, it took you 16 years to do, and then, and then you're there, and you got it. What, what happened then, to walk me through? Then it was a question of, okay, what do you do? And deciding what to do is very hard, because it takes 10 years to start anything and get to the starting line, right? Like, it takes a long time to get momentum in doing something, so I wanted to choose carefully, and so I did two things. One is, I got a bunch of friends together. I held, I held like 10 dinners across the country, and I would ask them this question, imagine we're in 2050, the world is amazing, and we're looking back on 2016, like, what did we do in 2016 that made the world in 2050 amazing? And people would say, you know, very, like, the same things in every dinner, and it's just like, humans repeat what they hear, they're working on similar things, like, there's a zeitgeist. So after the third, I was like, okay, I see the pattern, everyone's saying the same things, so I'm going to make myself a challenge, I'm going to draw a box, I'm going to put all the ideas inside the box, I can't do anything inside the box, it's got to be outside the box. So then, so that's like what I call, like, the zeroth principle thinking, like, you can't do anything that you're aware of or the others are aware of, and then I did the second thought experiment where I imagined being present in the year 2500, so you're a few hundred years into the future, so, and whoever is there, like, you know, whether it's humans or AI or some combination, they're conversing in this thought experiment, and they're looking back at us, and they say, we're so good at this, we're so good at this, we're so good at this, we're so grateful for Homo sapiens in the early 21st century because they did blank that allowed intelligence to thrive in this part of the galaxy, fill in the blank. Yeah. Measured their boners at night. Can I tell you about a time I was scammed? Yeah. New York City, a man put headphones on my head, he said, do you like this? I said, yeah. He said, what's your name? I said, Dave. He started signing the CD. True Dave. I said, what do you, he said. You said you liked it. And I paid him $10. So I was emasculated in front of my ex-girlfriend. Well, that's a, he was, he was kind of good. That's a good little technique he had. Keeping your money safe from fraud deserves to be a priority and Cash App treats it that way. A security lock. Cash App requires a successful face ID or biometric authentication to access your account. It's like your money is protected by your own personal bodyguard, even if your phone is lost or stolen. Plus, if you're about to send money to someone new and Cash App notices that something looks a bit off or that you might be falling for a scam, it will send you a warning before the money is sent to confirm that everything looks right. Download Cash App today. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App's banking partners. Visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures. It is crazy. You're the only person who's taken on this challenge. Are there other guys like you? It's a huge challenge. It's a huge undertaking. There's no other, there's no other man like you. Who's the first one? You can't be the second man. It's like, you're gonna just like. He can't be the only longevity. I mean. We need some more sample size, right? You're just one man. Most measured person. Yeah. Yeah, in human history. But like, because you're just, there can't, Anomalies exists and, you know, it's like, you're the only one. Yeah. Yeah. But like, because you're just, there can't Anomalies exist in, in life and science. Certainly. Yeah. And like the, the goal, there's, there's obvious limitations on like, it's just one person. It's one body. People's bodies are different. Yeah. What we're trying, it's really what we're trying to accomplish is establish a new philosophy, a new ideology, a new religion, a new community, like a new all things that basically there's, this is a demarcation where before this point, humans died. Yeah. Yeah. After this point, humans have an extending lifespan. We just don't know how long and how well we can live. That is, so what, what the 21st century say, they say, homo sapiens in the early 21st century gave birth to super intelligence and they figured out they would no longer die. But there's a difference between no longer die and live for a really, really long time. Like, I'm surprised we're even reaching for immortality. So it's not even immortality. Yeah. It's just like, it, it just means, um, if we start, so if the life expectancy is 79 right now in California. Is that what it is? It is. In California. Oh. So let's just say next year it becomes 80 and the next year it becomes 82. Why are you living in California? Is it longer other places? It's longer. Actually it was for the brain interface company. Oh. Just keep going. So imagine then like by 2030, you know, it's, it's, it's 84 by 2032. It's, and there's like, so like it's extending further. Yeah. And so now we're like, huh? So it's not that we've solved immortality. It's that we shift our mindset. That's like, wait a second. I can be as an 80 year old. I can have the same cognitive capacity and physical capacity as like, as a 25 year old. Yeah. And so when that happens, humanity will be like, wait, like I have to rethink stuff. Yeah. And so that's, this is like the, that's the beginning of the psychological consideration. Yeah. You have to get everybody kind of on board to understand the long-term goal first. That's not even hard. Everyone knows that like when the thirties they were dying. They were dying. Yeah. They were dying. Yeah. It's like, I don't know. It's like, it's like, I don't know. I don't know. with, I don't know if it's true, but about how you rid your body of almost all of its microplastics. Is that true? Yeah. What type of cutting board do you use? Wood. Wood? Yeah, we try to purge the house of plastics. Yeah, we did this experiment where we were measuring, we were trying to look at microplastics. It's a big deal. So we measured microplastics in my blood and also in my ejaculate because there was a study that showed that 100% of men, 100% of men had microplastics in their ejaculate and their testicles. And that's probably why it's related to fertility? Yeah, so it's just a bad thing to have in there. So yeah, so we did. I have the same device. Yeah, wait, turn that around. I have the exact same one at home. Yep, same one. How valuable. Wait, you guys, I just want to hear what, so the micro, you just finished the microplastic thing? Okay, so yeah, brain. So we infested. So after doing 21 sessions of sauna, my microplastic levels in my blood and ejaculate lowered by 87%. So that's it out. It was the first inhuman demonstration of it. And so we don't know if it was from the sauna, from the heat. We don't know. We just know that it lowered. So every man has to immediately, like, why aren't there like national PSAs about this? Like, get into the sauna right now. Totally. Too small of a sample size, I'd say. I mean, but people, people. People should do the experiment to see if they replicate. Like, they, they should definitely be a follow-on, because if it's, if it's truly effective, it's a big deal. Does sex hold value? Yeah. If you do it in the heat. Is there like an optimal, like, anything about sex? Basically, as much sex as you can have. Really? Yeah. How could it be? Your heart rate? The only thing that passes the list is sex. Like, sex at any time is great. Really? So you, you're okay with sex past your bedtime? Yeah. Why sex at any time is great? Well, how come? It's good. It's a good coincidence. It's because it, it's, sex is very hard to come by. Sure. It's, it's very, it's very hard to find the right moment, the right timing, the right situation. So when it presents itself. Tell me about it. Take it. Yeah. And it's just, you know, so good for connection. Tell me about it. What does that mean? I'm joking. How often do you think, how often do you think the average couple should be having sex? As much as they can. Well, like, oh, you're saying how many times? How, no, how many days out of the week? Seven. Seven? I mean, I don't know if there's an upper bound. Yeah, he's saying as much as humanly possible. But also, on, on, yes, okay, so here's a few things we've done on that, is, for example, when couples have sex. You studied this with yourselves. He, he. You don't get, you're not getting uncomfortable about. Like, best partner of the year award. Wait, you're not, you're not getting, this doesn't make you feel uncomfortable. No, no, no. Okay, okay. I am so like, I, I really believe that taboo things should be, like, why can't we talk about this? Great, let's talk about it. That's how I am. Let's all talk, we should go put another bottle of olive oil. Let's talk about it. Okay, so. Tell us, yeah. But yeah, but like. Yeah. Best partner of the year award because Brian just, like, went deep into the research on, like, how to have sex. Okay. And then he, like, brought me information that I didn't even know about myself. Oh my God, tell us everything. Did you not know information, did you not, were you bad at sex before? Well, I didn't know, so for example, like, if you find yourself, I mean, I don't know, was I bad at sex before? He was always great at sex. This is, like, next level. Okay. Like. Tell everybody. Okay, okay, so. Yeah. When, in the moment where it's like, okay, so you're together and it's like, this might happen. A man is ready to go in 30 seconds. Right. A woman takes around 17 minutes to be ready. I could tell you that. I call it the transition. Yes. You have to, like, mentally transition. Yeah, she has trouble with foreplay. Well, so women tent the cervix, actually. Retreats. Yeah. Tent it, like, it goes away. Yeah, it retreats to allow room for penetration. Like, it's not just, like, us getting warmed up, it's literally mechanical. So for 17 minutes, the thing is. I know, because. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, literally. Are you saying you should be flirting for 17 minutes? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You should be, like, you know, foreplay. Foreplay, yeah. So basically, once the tenting process, once that clock starts, the woman starts, so she'll tent. So even if a woman's wet, it does not mean she's ready. It's just, it's part of the process. Then the cervix actually moves, mechanically moves, it makes room for penetration. And so if you have sex before that. Yeah. It hurts. It'll hurt. Then other things, like the body, you can, so that's a mechanical process. You just can't, like, a woman can't be like, I'm going to tent in three minutes. It's just, it's a process that happens. And it's always 17? It's like 17-ish. On average. 70 to 20. And then, like, there's also, like, nerve fibers in the body. So, like, if you, so if you're touching your partner, if you move fast, the body registers that as, like, oh, I feel a sensation of being touched. If you move, I think it's something like below three centimeters per second, it communicates to a certain nerve fiber that that's intimate. So the speed of your touch. Slows it down. Slows it down. You've always been good at that. I know. It's my, it's my best strength. Yeah, she says, she always says that he's a great toucher. Yeah. She's always said he has the best touch. Ever since I first started kissing, doing anything with women, I, like, my reputation in, like, sixth grade was, like, he's the best at feeling boobs. Oh. Because I have a good, delicate touch. Even, like, even, like, just, like, like, like, no, not in a, not in, like, a way. You don't have to sexualize. I've noticed, he's, he's a very, he's a, has a very good touch. Has an intuitive awareness. Very, it's amazing. Very good touch. 17 minutes, slow touch. Yeah. What else? The nerve fiber. Yeah, so you'll have feedback when you do that. The nerve fibers will then, that's why you get goosebumps. Yes. Because the hairs stand up. All right? And so you get this mechanical feedback from the body of you've done the right speed, you've got the feedback mechanism, and now, like, that tenting process is commencing. So then, then what happens? And then it's go time? I don't. What about once it starts? I mean. Wait, tell us some more about, we've got 16 minutes to go. Yeah. I'd like every detail that you care to give. Yeah. It was, like, the nipples connected to the clitoris? Yeah, exactly. What was that? So when you do nipple play, it's. It's essentially the same as clitoris play. How could that be? Yeah, it's the same nerve, it's the same wiring. Okay, let me ask you this. I heard a rumor growing up that the male nipple was just as sensitive as the female nipple. Is that true? Well, I don't know. Mine's pretty sensitive. Mine, if this is what a clit feels like, you guys have no, it sucks being you guys. You just don't have sensitive nipples. Yeah. But I heard that males and females have the same nipple sensitivity. Tell me more. Women can have different sensitivity on their nipples. Yeah, for sure. Keep going. Okay, so nipples are the clit. Yeah, so you do it in that 17 minute, yeah, it is the clit. And so, but then of course you want to have like the right pressure. You don't want to make it, you know, whatever the person's preference is. Yes. Yep. Know your partner. Listen. We had 10. What else was on our list? I can't remember. What about like speed of, but once it's in, like, is it like, is this better than this? Or we don't know that yet? We should do more research and really like put out a book or something. Yeah. You guys should do more research. Yeah, yeah. I think there's a lot of unknown questions. So many unknown questions. When I learned this, I wrote some soft porn. What? Of your experience? Yeah, basically of seducing Kate. Yeah. Like you took note on how. Was that that long? That wasn't his tweet. It was a different long thing. Oh, yeah. If tomorrow three other guys went on social media, doesn't have to be us, but it could be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not us. Three other guys. And they started, you know, seeking the same thing and posting all about it. And they were really dynamic. And they had good personalities. And they. Reached. Stardom. Stardom. Yeah. Would you be annoyed or would you be happy to have more sets of data for humanity? Happy. So people call all the time and they're like, I'm going to beat you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Great. Yes. I'll help you. Yes. The goal. Yeah. Is that others beat me. That's great. So like, we're trying to basically like, if you think about the 25th century, all of the small mindedness of like wanting power, wealth, and status as an individual, like doesn't matter. Yeah, I agree. We're playing this epic game. Game of conscious existence. Yeah. So it's like trying to move the species towards. And so, no, like it's like we want society to change. We want it to move into this new era of evolving. So, yeah. I wanted to know because we went over it. I wanted to know if you had to just boil it down right now, the 10 worst things you can do for your body right now. That's just like the first question. Can I measure my brain while he asks his questions? Oh, yeah, yeah. Measure your brain. Yeah, I brought. Yeah. I didn't set it up. It's going to take a second to set it up. He says that I can measure my brain. What are we measuring? I don't know. His age. His age? Yeah, so look at your patterns. Uh-oh. And it will give you an age. It will give you a number. But don't you want to be older and wiser? Don't you want your brain? You want your brain to live a long time, but you want your brain to be full of wise knowledge? What's your brain? It's not necessarily the content of what's happening in the brain, but more like the activity. Like how robust, like how quickly are the patterns happening? Neuroplasticity? Yeah. You know how like you talk to someone who's older and they're slower and that? Oh, you've got a fast brain. I do have a fast brain, but I did, I smoked a little bit of weed. That probably will have some impact. You can always retest again. Okay. So if there's any negativity, it's all my, the weed can make me seem older. It'll take me like five minutes to set it up when we set it up. Would you set it up? Can you talk to us while you're setting it up? Yeah. Well, do you want to, we can all go over there. Yeah, let's go over there. Okay, okay. Well, I want to see my brain. A part of me thinks it could just hurt my ego. What about your face thing? Don't you want to see this? I'm scared of that one. That's why I brought the face thing. I don't want to know that. Will you check the air in here while we're waiting too? Yeah, I also want to know the air. Isn't that good? This is the best thing I've ever had. So do you guys avoid traveling because there's so much variant? It's probably full of microplastics. Don't mind me if I just sneak out and do a little live shopping, thanks to eBay Live. You probably don't know about eBay Live because you probably just know eBay and, you know, where there's a date and you got to bid by that date. Not anymore. I mean, they probably still have that version, but I just go on to eBay Live and I call it how I see it. These are things that are happening real time, live shopping that I wouldn't even think about getting. How about some car? Cards, some cards, trading card type stuff, because they got vintage things. They have just Rolexes, which is above my pay grade, but I'm just saying there's a wide variety of things that when you go on eBay Live, you can get. Yoda action figure, sealed. That's my dog. Always loved Yoda. I love his shape, and I love his physical size, but it's just fun. I don't know. Sometimes you don't want to go inside and learn more about how much time you have left. You'd rather live in the moment, but every good thing comes to an end. It's fun in there, too. Okay, we're ready. Okay, so what's going to happen is it's going to play music, and you're just going to watch the screen. We are in this epic contest for intelligent life. I love how seriously Dave's taking this. You need to release control. Grip strength is an incredible predictor of age and longevity. Good job. Keep going. Oh. He's the best at feeling boobs. Got it? Yeah. And there we go. It says I've completed this task. Seven. 22.4. Hey. I'm above average. Some of those vignettes were beautiful. That's right on like 90th percentile. What does that mean, that I'm young? Yeah, that means that you're younger equivalent on average, yes, but that you're also in the top for your age group. Does that have anything to do with doing Pilates? It can. Just general ability. Like one of the big things as you get older is you can fall, for example. All right. Now we'll just wait for it to upload. Great. Probably five, ten minutes. Cool. Flexibility, they end up being really important. Do you guys not use normal cleaning supplies? Like, yeah. Is it chemicals? Yeah, so we made a list of like 200 things that kill you in life. Could you read some of them off for me? Because I was just about to ask you the ten. All I want to know is the ten, top ten worst things a person could do. Tell me them right now. Top 20. Or I'll spray you with toxic chemicals. Because the thing is, is society kind of built itself to make profit and make things convenient, not with health in mind. So it's like why turf exists, for example. We're getting rid of it. Turf can't be the top ten, though. I want to know top ten. Yeah, top ten. Right now, Ryan. I mean, smoking's the worst. Yeah, cigarettes, alcohol, sugar, fried things. Wait, what type? Like, so refined sugars? Yes, like added sugars, yes. Yeah, added sugars. So like a Diet Coke. Yeah. So no diet. You should never have a Diet Coke. You shouldn't have sugar. Yeah. Try to avoid it. Avoid sugar altogether. But I can eat like 10 pounds of strawberries. Yeah, berries are fantastic. And when you say alcohol, like having a glass of wine. Yeah, so it's not, like you, of course, can't make your life perfect. It's very hard. So if you're doing a trade-off space and wine's your thing, the thing you can do that's helpful is to get a wearable, like an Apple Watch or a Whoop, an Aura, or a Garmin, and then just do an experiment and see what happens when you drink wine and when you don't drink wine. And then what you might do. What you might see is your heart rate go up, your sleep go down, and like the thing that happens when your sleep goes down, your body can't clean itself. So during the day, your body accumulates all this junk, and when you sleep, it removes a lot of it. And so when you drink or something like that, it impairs your body's ability to clean up. Yeah. And like the number one thing you try to do is get your sleep quality as good as possible. Like what Brian's saying, like things that hit it hard for me was if you get less than four hours of sleep, you're not going to be able to clean up. If you get less than four hours of sleep, your NK cells, which are literally the cells that go through your body and they look for cancer, that's their job. They're like finding cancer, and they're like, oh, cancer, let's address it. Those deplete, how much? Up to 70%. 72%, yeah. If you get like four hours of sleep. Yeah. So that night, you miss a night of cancer surveillance. Yeah. Well said. But how do we even know, you know? Then you see these people who are like, you, like. They know. No. I'm saying like I have, like my mom's best friend, best friend. Eat healthy. There's anomalies. Than you've ever seen, triathlete, everything, and then just got cancer and died. Exactly. So some people are better at processing sugar than other people. Yeah. And you want to know what you're good at and what you're bad at. Yeah. And so like right now, you just don't know, right? Yeah, totally. And that's, you don't want to get caught off guard with something like that. Because like everyone's fallible to something. How often, like, do you guys have moments of like, ugh, like I wish I wasn't doing this? I know that you probably never globally are like ever considering giving. So that's not my question. It's more just those micro, like, ugh, what a pain in the ass that I've chosen this path. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's, so I was, we were playing around. Like, I'm basically a tragic Greek character. Yeah. You know, like. You're a martyr. Yeah. Like, there's this idea, of course, that like I have imprisoned myself in my own world. Yeah. And I call it freedom. And it's like, it's the tragedy of our time of longevity. So that's the thing is. I'm very, I'm very open to this being that, that I am a prisoner of this world I've built. Because in theory, the thing that you said that you had that spiritual thing when you took that drug, you don't have any idea that once you die, you're actually able to access that. I don't believe that at all or anything, but that's just as, so really you could just be delaying the thing you're trying to get. Yeah. Yeah. But he's doing it for the betterment of us to have the information and the data. Totally agree. So you said four things. Keep on going with the information. Well, I just want to know. I have you here. Yeah. So the, the thing is, I guess like generally speaking, the world is just toxic. And so, yeah. So like, for example, I never eat food from restaurants. Really? I just don't. Where all the food's from. I don't trust it. Yeah. I don't trust how they cook. I don't trust their materials. I don't trust their oils. I don't, I just don't. We've tested so much food. Yeah. We've just seen too much. And so we, and even like when someone's like, oh, but I've got like a cow in my backyard and it's, it's just pasture fed. They are not controlling the water supply. They can't control. There's, there's, there's just. There's no safe place. Did you used to like calzones back in the day when you were a normal man? You were like, love that drunk meal or like that big meal. Yes. And you don't miss it. Do you have dreams of it? No, because I honestly, I feel so bad when I do it. The feeling is so awful that I know I'm going to feel awful for like six hours. And then I'm going to, it's going to mess up my sleep. Then I'm going to be grumpy. Five different times, virtually all life has been wiped out off the earth. Yeah. So you ever, you ever think like, what's the point? Cause I'm probably. I'm probably going to get wiped out before my contributions even. So I love that question so much. Thank you. Cause like, it's like, it's a bullseye. And this is the thing is like, maybe for the first time in history, we have the capacity to not be wiped out. Yeah. Whoa. And this is like, this is the insanity. This moment is like, we just being humans on the earth, like we're pretty fragile. We're pretty helpless. When you build out AI, like we now have like God-like abilities. So you, you attribute it to AI. Like it's, you're saying AI is really. It's literally what the special moment. It's the only thing that matters right now. Literally it's the only thing that really matters right now. What about music or comedy? Where did you guys meet? Working on this project together. I essentially like 2016, I had the same vision as Brian. Like we need to merge humans and AI on in the next like 10, 20 years. Where were you? I was working in fashion, living in New York. Oh wow. Not merge, not merge in health. Exactly. And then I got, yeah. I essentially, Brian was one of the only people in the world working on that problem. And so I came out to Kernel to work with Brian. So you just found him like, or you just. You guys mix business and pleasure. Yeah. So, so this is what actually happened 2016. I was like, spent the whole year surveying who's working on this problem. Pretty much gave up. Just one guy. Pretty much gave up. And then I got an email in my inbox that from Singularity University, I had a quote from Brian. Brian wasn't a well-known person at that time in terms of like social media presence. He had sold his business, had a lot of business success. And it said like something about merging humans with AI. And I was like, oh my fucking God, this is my person. And so I, I messaged him for five years trying to go work at Kernel and never heard back. And then eventually, you know, cause I was like in the fashion realm. It's really hard to make that career pivot. Yeah. Eventually kind of gave up everything, moved out to LA to come work with Brian. What made you respond to the one email five years later? Do you even remember? Like, did you see the first one and ignoring them? Yeah. I thought she's so persistent. Yeah. And I think like, how often do you send them? Like, oh, maybe like every eight months. Yeah. Every eight months. So yeah. Just checking in again. And then, and then when you saw her, were you like, whoa, like when she came out and you're like, hello, welcome. Well, we had a conversation and, uh, she's like, I will literally do anything. Like, and so I was like, I don't know how to map fashion to brain tech. And she's like, I'll do anything. And so I was like, I can't really pay you much of anything. She's like, I don't care. I, and I was like, why couldn't you, why didn't you want to pay? Well, cause I mean, what was she going to do? Yeah. Well, I had no qualifications to make it seem like I'd be able to do that. But like, I was running a 70 person design team at the North face, like managing a multimillion dollar budget, like had this like track that I was going on in corporate America. And so it was just this huge gap of like, is there, is this going to translate? I was like, it's, it's fine. Just trust me. Like it'll, it'll work out. And then, um, yeah, it came out to work with Brian. And then like a couple months in, he had been working on his health stuff, getting like really particular. And I just had this idea come to me on the weekend where I was like, why don't we make you a public assignment? science experiment. like why don't we make you this like avatar online like we'll publish your stool samples your blood like just a voyeuristic thing that people could watch from home and he and he was really private and yeah and he was like no and then like two days later he was like you know let's do it and so we spent a year and a half working diligently in the evenings after colonel doing blueprint this project nothing romantic yet nothing romantic because she she she made you do you all right thank god you answered yeah we're a dyad and so like that that's the beauty because like we got a lot of pain like we created like a little bubble between the two of us where it was like safe right and like all the hate from the extent it didn't really matter if things went well or didn't well because we were just having fun yeah building something together and so for a year and a half we did that no one kate gave a about what we were doing this is before all the virality and then in addition to that we were both really like high integrity people that we didn't tell each other that we had feelings for another yeah we just kept it to ourselves we were working together and you felt like there was such this big there's so much risk yes yes yeah okay keep going yeah sexual tension i know talk about the 17 minute 10. okay keep going keep going yeah and then and then the project took off and eventually you guys took what yeah you're not telling us about this yeah tell us about i need to know that i just confronted who like when did it come into fruition yeah we we were at a um a conference we were presenting colonel we were doing a bunch of scans and it was just too much you know i had i had fallen in love with her yeah and yeah just she was like the the dream person i'd had in my entire life yeah but um like we we kept things really tight like we we never crossed boundaries you get you guys are gonna love this yes tell us because he was at that time like obviously really really regimented right yeah same as now the most regiment oh i know but like it was back then too and but he had missed his bedtime this one time and so it was like 10 p.m he had been out socializing because we're at this conference and i was i was done for the night i was like in my hotel room and um he called me and he was like he's essentially just like in this really soft roundabout way like i have feelings for you okay i was like me too so you were saying like i missed my bedtime i want you to come over the reason what was the connection i was going along with it i was going along with it because he wasn't like he was you know it was like he wasn't being regimented he wasn't always allowed to be free he was he was out of his normal routine you gotta let go you gotta let go sometimes now we need him being the martyr yeah but that's what happens everyone you should give yourself you should give yourself like one day a month don't do it he's already this far don't do it he's doing it for us i like to see when the human you that made me i just immediately looked at you in a completely different light oh yeah he's like that like people think that he's not that far off but he is and and even like the i don't know where yeah i don't know we're just having fun okay wait so okay so he tells you he has feelings it's 10 p.m what happens next well so i i say like okay i want to know stop tempting us let's go what happened next it's 10.01 no that's it i told him i have things for him too and we we talked about it and we were just both like wow did you guys hook up that night were you so nervous making that phone call yeah i mean you thought like she could be like how dare you it's like it's so inappropriate yeah did you have your monitor on when you were doing it your sleep score was probably so bad heart rate yeah did you like did you dance around it like were you like so like or was it just like blunt was he just like blunt about it so careful yeah yeah just in case you got an inkling of like her not feeling the same way yeah yeah so then did you guys have to see each other after you said that and still nothing yes yeah yeah like we didn't like we kept boundaries really really clean and so you just were in love with each other but didn't even do anything for how long it was a while yeah you didn't even kiss even no no no even after you admitted that you both had feelings we wanted it to be very like appropriate what night did you kiss i was still working you know technically for brian yeah time and then like so i actually moved over to to be full-time at our company blueprint so that we could kind of like cleanly have this relationship and like start from scratch yeah so then what happened i just want to know i want to know when it was how long was it were you feelings acknowledged and no no physical boundaries crossed how many how many weeks like a couple of months yeah yeah and then what happened what what was the break moment where you're just like okay like i'm gonna kiss you now you like rip your monitor off yeah how did you go from not kissing at all to kissing and now you write like sex exposes totally i don't know i feel like um well so brian grew up mormon and i feel like his his heart is so pure and so i feel like it wasn't like any other dating experience i've ever had where it it's just like people are gross out there you know they can be really i don't know so i feel like he was so sweet he'd like write me little like handwritten notes like personally like do you want to go out with me like it was really really sweet unlike anything i expect um expected so it was a very soft slow like snowball yeah two little things yeah okay yeah but do you remember the first time you guys kissed or something yeah yeah i know you do i don't okay what did you make her like were you like wearing lip gloss that was like um not toxic yeah it is you're like life's greatest joys are the ones that you worked hardest for and that have the most tension and so when we kissed it was just like years of tension yeah manifesting itself and yeah it's almost it's like you know you you see like you see on screen like this yeah it was magnificent it was magnificent oh yeah i kissed my my wife i kissed for the first time after knowing her for nearly 20 years oh wow yeah we kissed for the first time outside of the fridge we were leaning against the fridge yeah yeah it was cool how that happened just flirtation and dating and a few we were like three dates in i didn't make a move after the first two dates making the move is tough i mean i wouldn't have waited months but i like that i was really nervous that he was going to make a move and i was like not that i didn't want him to i just didn't know how to navigate it and the fact that he didn't i feel like i was like oh this is safe like you don't have to to me like having to dodge yeah i just like that you waited one day you know i can feel i can feel anything that i've seen on you online it's funny because in person you especially on here i think because a lot of things are like very scientific that i see you on you have a really sweet demeanor to you that i think sometimes doesn't even come across comes across to me i've always felt it no no yeah but but if we can see it it's it's it's very different in person you i can tell you it's not different from me i can i i i can tell after this though for me you're gonna blow up that no i think like i think um i i i feel like before this i didn't know what your intentions and reasonings were and now after hanging out with you i feel completely different and i feel like i'm like i want to like put you on my shoulders and like and like with everyone and yeah i just i uh i yeah i i you have you have a very uh a sweet tone to you you have a sweet presence yeah you're very like pure presence yeah you got a nice 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kate is like she's such a masterpiece as a human and so like i'm i'm this weird broken oddball broken and she's like yeah i'm just like yeah i'm just gonna go with the wayfarer broken and she's like yeah i'm just like you know like complicated i'm a very complicated human but she's taken me and she just has me in this this comfy confident warm place where i feel fine doing it all wow that's great for longevity i feel like that that way with you oh that's cool do you think he's very comfy do you think the reason why you guys did like do you think do you feel like and you totally don't have to answer this for you do you feel like she like opened you up like also like sexually and that's why you're like she like opened you up like also like sexually and that's why you're like so no no these things are so no no these things are so no no these things are like these things he says i'm like like these things he says i'm like like these things he says i'm like they're crazy i mean like if you okay they're crazy i mean like if you okay they're crazy i mean like if you okay so before this i didn't want to be public so before this i didn't want to be public so before this i didn't want to be public i didn't want to publish my heart data i didn't want to publish my heart data i didn't want to publish my heart data publicly yeah fast forward publicly yeah fast forward publicly yeah fast forward two years later i'm posting nudes really two years later i'm posting nudes really two years later i'm posting nudes really on the internet penis uh not yeah um on the internet penis uh not yeah um on the internet penis uh not yeah um covered covered you're not penis uh yeah covered covered you're not penis uh yeah covered covered you're not penis uh yeah and then also like live streaming and then also like live streaming and then also like live streaming psychedelics yeah yeah yeah and um like psychedelics yeah yeah yeah and um like psychedelics yeah yeah yeah and um like doing blood transfusions and like just doing blood transfusions and like just doing blood transfusions and like just like every every play space we can find like every every play space we can find like every every play space we can find we're just like let's do it and that is we're just like let's do it and that is we're just like let's do it and that is absolutely not the person i was before i absolutely not the person i was before i absolutely not the person i was before i met her wow I feel like because it's like you guys aren't doing it alone. It's like the two of you are doing it together, so it's less scary to put yourself out there. Yeah, or like when I say, like, I have an idea, and she's like, that's a bang. Everyone else would be like, I don't know about that. Like that tweet that you guys see, he tweeted, like, I just had sex. Just had sex, good night. Yeah, just had sex with Kate. I got, like, something like 40 million views. Like, we had just had sex, and he's like, should I tweet this? And I was like, yeah. Yeah, you have a very free spirit, but a very, like, logical, it seems like, spirit. Like, you can go back and forth, which is a good mix to have. Do you have a sense of pressure? Because, like, let's say you're outside, and, like, someone were to see you doing something that even sounds, like, just like, or, like, they saw you walking around, and you didn't have the umbrella. Or they saw you, like, eating a Twix bar. Or they saw you, like, do you feel like there's, like, so much pressure in that regard? I mean, we've gotten to a place of notoriety where we can't go anywhere in any circumstance, anywhere in the world, and not be recognized immediately. Yeah, that's how it is for me. Yeah. Yeah, right? Like, you're always. I was joking, but. Oh. But I appreciate it. I am recognized domestically. No, my parents were just in Sicily, and they, the people. But keep going. I didn't mean that. I mean, how do you feel about it? I like it, because it's just people ultimately showering me with respect and praise. Yeah. And I'm not, like, antisocial, so. Yeah. And it's not, like, I think there's a threshold of it, like, with, like, maybe Selena, where it's, like, way. It's, like, there's this, like, when you cross this line, it gets really, like, you can't really go anywhere without crowds happening. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of a ten people in the world experience that. I don't think either one of us. You probably are more likely because you have humanity on your back. They're examining my existence. Yeah. You know, so, yes, it's a microscope wherever I'm at. But you have. Do you think because. I don't know how Mormon you were when you were growing up, but that feels like that kind of. Did that help you with restrictions? Because it's kind of, like, a restricted place. Like, you have within you the ability to kind of say no to a lot of life's temptations. Yeah. I think so. Yeah. I'd probably set you up for this a little bit. I probably built some good brain muscles of being able to resist, yeah, to forego pleasure. Yeah. Yeah. When you look at my brain scans, the part of the brain that is responsible for habit formation and habit keeping, I'm in the 99th percentile. I believe that. I have a question. So, I have, like, insane willpower. Yeah. Like, when I say I'm going to do something, like, I can't, like. I have, like, insane organization. I have, like, irrational and willpower, and, like, it's, like, to a fault. I, like, I, like, don't. I don't even like it that much. Would that show up in one of your brain. It would. Yeah. Oh. What about positive thinking? Like, where do you stand in longevity for, like, being. Not, like, mindful, but they say, like. Like, optimistic. Just, like, the thoughts in your own head. It's legit. Yeah. It's a longevity therapy. So, then, isn't what you're doing, though, also kind of making. Yeah. Stressing you out. You're. It's pessimistic, because with something. Let's say you measure. You measure a thing, and it says, like, 3.4, and you're, like, oh, no, I gotta go. No, it's all about how you talk to yourself in your head, right? Yeah. Well, do you practice, like. You know, you do all the work physically and all that, but do you do, like, work for the mental shit, or do you not? Not really. Do you do. You don't do any therapy? But don't you think that's a data point that, like, might have a thing? Yeah, she's trying to get me to do therapy. I think you should. I think you should. Not. I think every person should. Yeah. Every person should at least explore it, I think, because. Because there's so much. Because especially from, like, your old life, before you started living so clean, like, even if you think you have, like. Like, I'm a very happy person. I'm a. Like, I wake up every day, I'm stoked. I'm, like, it's very hard to rattle me. I don't usually get angry. But it's like going to the dentist. They can still find, like, that little plaque, and they pull it out, and you're, like, what? Where was that? And I've found it to be very helpful, and I think it's even just an experiment. Like, you're a man of your word. You're a man of experiments. Yeah. I want to know the data points of, like. Because they say you are what you eat, and your food and all of this stuff impacts your brain, so I want to know, like, what you. Like, I wonder if your, like, baseline for emotion is healthier, and you probably maybe don't experience it as much because your insides are healthy and your outsides are healthy. Like, we need that data point. You might have to go to therapy just for us. Yeah, for the experiment. For the experiment. Not just therapy, but also, I mean, I don't do any of this stuff, but, like, meditation or whatever. Like, people say, like, mental health, you know, I just feel like if that is a big thing and you're brain and you're happy. Or impacting longevity, I just feel like maybe you're leaving a little bit on the table. Yeah. I think it's a good point. Yeah, you've got to give us the data. What type of workout do you do? Bench. Bench press. He also does. He's got a huge. Your chest is huge. That's it? You've got a six-pack? I do. Do you work out every day? Did you have one before? No, not before. Yeah, every day. Were you fat before? I was fat. Really? Yeah. What about laughter? Because I find it fascinating that all of humanity laughs. Yeah. We've had you laugh into that. Yeah. It's probably good for me. And I just think that's probably a good thing for the human soul. Yeah. Any studies? Yeah, I have to imagine it's a very positive therapy. Yeah, I have to imagine that like sex, like you probably want to laugh as much as you can. That's probably true. I'm going to check the brain. I'm going to look at the brain scan thing. But it's a black screen. Do you even know how to do that? It says 68 years old. Speaking of longevity, the long ball. You know what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the long ball. I'm talking about the dinger, the homer, the daily dinger on FanDuel Predicts. You know, you can go on FanDuel Predicts and you can predict who's going to hit a bomb that day. And if you win and you predict the right man that hits the right dinger, you will get a profit boost. You just go on the FanDuel Predicts app and there's all types of games and there's all types of men who are capable of hitting dingers. Now, in my situation, I certainly look right at the Phillies. They're my squad. They got guys on that team that straight up mash. And I don't even know if I'm allowed to name names, but I don't have to name names. Because you know who these men are. That's how good they are at just fucking crushing the ball. Dinger predicted. Now I'm going to go find out the results of my brain. Okay, then I got to ask. I got so many more questions on this thing. I know, I know. We need like 24 hours. Oh, hey. Oh, no. What is it? So it's not good. I mean, how often are people older than their age? That's okay. It happens. I'm only one and a half years old in the brain, but I smoked. That's not that bad. That's not bad. Come by. We'll do skin age and then we'll retest. We're just around the corner. You are? Compared to most people your age. So most people are older. So you're saying. Yeah. It's saying that most people. Oh, our stuff's better now. We'll send you like the more. Our stuff's better. You can do a much more advanced. Look at that. We did a therapy and it worked. You have so many tabs. Yeah. I've never seen. Too many tabs, I think. You got to work on your tabs. I wonder where my brain is. Maybe you should hire us to come in and clean up your life a little. We got a few things. You guys did. You made some sound points. A lot of good points today. I think your open-mindedness, considering you're signing up for such a rigidity, that combined with such an overwhelming open-mindedness is what makes it all so special. Yeah. Yeah. And so you can't help but respect it. And that you're really doing it. I mean, it really, like I would never be able to do that. You're like giving up a piece. You're giving up a piece of your life. Right. Yeah. For the service of all of us. Yeah. It's cool. I like it. And I kind of, you know, not like I'm shocked that no one's done it before. Probably the same way you guys are probably shocked that no one's ever done a podcast the way that we do it. Right. Right. I agree with that. I'm not shocked because I think it's really hard to fucking do. Like there's a reason people don't do it. Yeah. Is there any guys you see and you're like, oh, that guy's like an up and coming guy. Like you ever see a guy, you're like, oh man, he's like spinning his butt. Dave. He said Dave. Spinning his butt. No, no. Health man. Like the new Brian. Like the people who are like, oh, I'm going to be the Brian Johnson of Singapore. Dave's a good answer. I feel like there's a bunch of guys. No, I feel like a bunch of guys are probably following in your footsteps now. Yeah, there are. Yeah. Do you ever, do you see any of them and you're like, oh my God. Yeah. There, we have, we have groups all over, like in 132 countries. So yeah, it's a whole thing. Do you ever meet a guy and you're blown away by like the statistics he's done on his body where he's like kind of close to you. So you, maybe you sprinkle a little micro. Micro plastic in his smoothie. There, so it's interesting that people in, people in their like late twenties, early thirties usually don't bite very hard because they're like, they're working very hard in their careers and whatnot. Bite? People, like on this kind of stuff, on health stuff. Yeah, demand. I was thinking bite, quite literally. People in their forties, fifties, sixties, they really like it because they're hurting from aging. Yes. So like it means something to them. And then you find kids. So like 10, 11 through like late teens, they really get into it. Huh. And so what you find is when we, when we talk to like students of that age, they just naturally, they grow up and they just are, this naturally makes sense to them. Like, why would I eat sugar? Like, why would I kill myself with these things? Yeah. And so you just find very different responses according to age and context. Yeah. But yeah, but yeah, there's people all over the world where like, so I guess what I'm saying is. There are kids we've talked to who their entire, their entire identity is don't die. Wow. And like, that's just how they are. And so to me, that's what gives me most motivation is like the generation coming. Yeah. They're very different than what has been where you have a YOLO mentality. Yes. That's what I love seeing. That's cool. Yeah, you gotta get a spoon. This goes in water? Well, it's good. Can you give me this recipe for free? Is that too much? That's good. Let me taste it. I like this. Let me smell it. Smell it. is it just smells like chemicals. let me smell what if you had one you think you'd feel bad i would yeah you want to eat one so i ate so he said we would smell like chemicals doesn't it yeah chili cheese fries and i had like three or four how's it going just yeah it's good it's really good i mean his body's toxic anyway i think my insides are like tar yeah he when he poops it looks like confetti or water i want to show him the video but i don't even know the story so i ate some fries and then i got so sick like for hours i was just sick my stomach was grumbling i had diarrhea it was just like it was that's dave every day really yeah oh cavemen used to be healthier i mean they weren't they didn't have as good enough we didn't have all of the like medicine stuff but they weren't putting chemicals in their body and the air wasn't as polluted right yeah but they died so young because they didn't have any advances yeah so i have a don't die diet guide for you i have all the foods that are best performing yeah but you're right here so yeah so um legumes okay veggies yeah berries nuts seeds okay extra virgin olive oil okay that's my vegetables that's it yeah the concept is every calorie fights for its life it's like there's no calorie that just slips through of like it's a nice to have every single calorie has to be a high ranking uh on the evidence scale and so rice is fine just like there's other foods that pack higher nutritional density potato so like we yeah so these are all like you know high like this was so good i could give up everything and just eat this that's pretty much all you eat right that is a very standard meal yes tell me your your top three things you miss and then i have one other question and then dave's gonna show you his oh no well do what he said in order though what did he say the top three things that you miss i i miss staying out late with friends you know like going hard on a night with friends yeah having fun and just like you don't care about it you don't care about when the night ends yeah brooklyn raves yeah yeah exactly we used to do brooklyn brooklyn raves you know what we should do for you we should create one during the day yeah we should make it we should make a day club instead of a nightclub i'm with you yeah for all the guys like you out there and they have reverse osmosis on a tag on top yeah i'll make it for you for your birthday does she ever have do you ever do like a day off where you're just like oh i'm doing all the bad very rarely when i go home to my mom i don't make my mom cook something else yeah yeah yeah you guys facetime and you just have like doritos yeah we actually were thinking about uh doing a funeral um because like there's a lot of people really dislike me and so why i wonder why that is yeah i mean i i don't know why it is i understand because i think i it's it's you kind of represent we all know that we're not healthy and we all know that we have to make changes and it's really hard to have the will to it's almost like you kind of represent what everybody wants to avoid like we want to be healthy we want to do all the things but we don't want it to be work and we don't want to give up what we don't like so i think it's just like this innate fear of like you're you're you represent responsibility and the fact that we can i mean not to the degree that you are but we can take action and people are avoidant of that but it's also yeah it's just the internet i think you're speaking to the internet they're like this is a rich guy who can afford all this yeah you're in good shape and like yeah it is awesome though that like how much did the stars align that like like if you didn't have money you couldn't have done it right yeah like the star this thing costs a hundred million dollars like it's like the stars fully aligned for you to be the longevity man but you still have to give up a lot as if you were still working a really hard job the funeral idea is like we want to invite people who who hate me and us and we want them to like have voice you know like have them get up and speak and be like this guy's awful no invite your friends and family and have a good positive there's no reason to hate we're here with you guys there's absolutely no reason to hate you guys you're you're doing stuff for all of us do people ever try to tear you apart when you go to an interview or no yes oh yeah i've seen it yeah i've seen it what do you mean people just it's just the way of the world and the way of human behavior where they're just like what's the catch you're also selling things so people are going to be like yeah what like how much can i trust them but he didn't even sell the thing he's the guy you could trust the most he doesn't need the money he's selling it because in 2039 we're all going to be like thank god you drink this right oh yeah we built this for us yeah okay okay take a look at this and tell him what he needs no i look look look it's terrible you don't want to see it you don't want to really really you might you can look at it out of the two of us i'm far more likely i also don't want to push this on you you can't see any like butthole or like any nudity but you can it's the worst you can see exit my body and i think he was sick which i think he got cold the next day this is just like how he is almost every day this is the day before i see him shaking very often are you proud of it i'm so proud of this video oh okay the footage is no the footage yeah okay the footage i'm gonna use the restroom are you proud of the poop no this is how he's wrong i think it's has diarrhea or confetti pink suit i just want to know how we should respond to it this is like your child no no he has confetti poop don't even think about your spots yeah um but it is a showcase of just what something's wrong with me i'm scared i'm screwed i'm actually just scared oh god oh god oh my god no no it looks like a fountain that's what it happens all the time to me that's bad right isn't that bad it's not supposed to look like that no it was also so i know it's always like that the way it was i i'm proud of the way the footage was captured it's like it's like there's like a movie it's like a movie in magic it was art are you scared for him that's good for your longevity you're laughing yeah oh no that made me feel sicker than i anticipated it would we're going live ebay live oh tell me more well you know ebay you know the brand i know the brand i love the brand you know you want an item you go to ebay bid or buy now they got live now they have live live auctions like you you can see it all this right now like this oh wow look at that this is all live it's a fun community event it's a fun community they got all types of cards like i love rookie cards i don't know if you collect rookie cards uh sports cards that's right sports cards and i actually don't even have any rookie cards i just wish i did oh but i could who's a rookie who is everyone was a rookie is kind of the core so like for example i wish i had like an lbj a rookie card lbj lebron maybe do they have like the opposite of a rookie card where it's like the end card no that's a good idea though the end ebay live is live interactive shopping on the ebay app watch live shop live anyways so did you guys like it you guys seem it was a lot she said it was art but she feels a lot sicker than she thought she was i have to say i have to clear the air on this you had he had coveted at the time this is what no this is what he said i have seen i live with the man here i'll show i got i got about 1400 other uh examples would you like that one was specifically terrible they all look like that they look they here there was a one that i did in there yeah and i swear to god i filmed it and literally the walls had no on it yeah he has hit the wall why is it so powerful he has two yeah he has two speeds he eats he has really really bad yeah but like it's a good set your sphincter muscles are your muscles two speeds he has two speeds it's straight water or it looks like different dots like like yeah yeah this yeah no smaller like one or two on the on the um that's bad bristol bristol scale every now and then it's like long thin snakes yeah i've never seen anybody eat the way he eats like it's truly when i he does not eat and he and it's against his will as committed you are to the eating well i seem equally committed to eating well any fruit or any vegetables yeah you don't just taste it just like i don't want to just taste it i don't eat one bean one single bean yeah yeah he's never he doesn't eat anything i tried it in the parking lot one time it was surprisingly neutral in flavor yeah so yeah i have to avoid them because the gas is so bad for me but then i did recently learn that no it's just how you soak them yeah you gotta soak them okay yeah this was fun you guys i had so much fun i had so much fun yeah thank you for coming thank you for coming warm guests oh well you guys were also very warm yeah how did we do you go on so many of these was this is this peak level for sure did you feel that as a man who has been on so many of different podcasts and internet things this one stand out as a by far it stood out how would you rate it out of five 10 out of ten yeah this is the coolest this is the best time we've ever had isn't it really yeah yeah absolutely am i saying that to camera b no no no it's true our air quality got so much better look at us at the end of the day we're going to do the best we've ever done we're going to get the best we've ever done we're going to do the best we've ever done we're going to get the best we've ever done we're going to get the best we've ever done we're going to get the best we've ever done