The Breaking Bad Episode

♪ Breaking bad ♪ ♪ Breaking bad ♪ (upbeat music) ♪ Jesse and Walter came and had the last ♪ ♪ Jesse and Walter Pinkman and Walter ♪ ♪ Walter, what the fuck ♪ ♪ See you next week and this week ♪ (audience laughing) - Do you guys think that they're gonna be shocked to see a twin? - This is a twin. - It smells so good. - I'm the twin. - Of Jesse Pinkman? - Yeah, I'm just a twin. - The sister? - So, yeah, so you guys feel, you guys feel excited about-- - I do feel embarrassed and I don't feel embarrassed. - No, I feel kind of normal. - I feel a little honoring Ronny, something that deserves to be honored. - She looks like Billie Eilish. - So a little like headed, just with all the things. - I feel like headed to, I feel so. Chuck, you look so, this is the best you've ever looked. - I think it's 'cause I'm a little tan. - You're so tan, I like this outfit. I wish I could wear this outfit. - My outfit's pretty show too. - Do you guys like mine? - Yeah. - I love your outfit. - It's kind of-- - I love all of our outfit. - I know. - Do you think that they're, sorry, what were you saying? - I don't think they're gonna like what we're doing. - You don't think they're gonna like what we're doing? - Yo. - Here's my-- - Yeah, I'm doing a Jesse Pinkman impression. - Get off me, yo. - I'm like, Mr. White, I can't. - That wasn't bad. - It wasn't bad. - It wasn't terrible. - I'm not gonna break bad. - I'm nervous. I'm gonna stay good. - Speaking of staying good and being nervous and the breaking bad men and New Mexico. - Yeah. - You know how I like to spend time on Airbnb when there's nothing to do and I browse all their homes. - Yeah. - Pinkman. - You guys, I send it to you today, but I don't think you checked your phone. Look at this home. I think we need to go here. It's called the Spectacular Earth Ship. - This is on Airbnb? - Yeah. - Oh wow. - I think you want to stay in an Earth ship with me? - Look, I think we can go right after. And we can do antique shopping. - You should have done this in New Mexico with them. - I'm so nervous. - Are you? - I'm not nervous, but I'm like excited nervous. - Seeing both, I've never met either of them. Seeing both of them together is just going to feel almost like I was feeling like it's, I'm in the show. - Hey, check, how's that feel? - I'm gonna answer first. - You go first. - You go first. - You go first. - You go first. - You go first. - You go first, you go. - Have you ever lived in Venice? - No. West, West LA. - Ugh. (laughing) - Come on in. - Oh, good hell, man. - Come on in, guys. - It's not just me. - Oh, I got it. - This is good. - This is one of the best shows ever made. - Brilliant. - You have such a focus. - I'm sorry, what? (laughing) - Wow. - This show changed our lives. - I would have been so pissed. (laughing) - Wow, nasty. (laughing) - Wow, wow. - Wow. (laughing) - Salud. - Salud. - Salud, Salud. - Do you hate this or is this okay? - No. - No, I'm not. (laughing) - Really? - Great to see you, man. - I'm Kristen. - Great, great to see you, man. - I actually might start strapping like this. - Isn't it cozy? - Yeah. - Oh my gosh. - Who's what she likes to do, man. - Yeah, really? - Yeah. - You know, I might wear this all the time. - You represent that very well. - Yeah, you do. - I really do. - I'm coming along. - You look great. - Are you stuck? - You were stuck. - Yeah, of course. - You're stuffin' major stuff in a big thick wool sock in there. It's the biggest, it's one sock, but it's the biggest sock I have. - Okay, well at least it's mine. - You know, it's exactly what I did on the show. - Yeah, well, you guys think in about that one. - When you were in the '90s, where you think in like, man, I hope they don't get a weird shot at this. - I'm already in my underwear. - Yeah, he's giving the public what they want. - How many times have you been in your type of underwear? - With Malcolm in the middle one. And I mean, I joke that my agent was aware of a nudity clause, but he thought it was that I wanted to be me. I was like, so he was fired, I had fired, I was like. - Come on in, come on in, come on in. - We brought you some treats. - I'm excited. Thanks for having us great plays. - Thank you. - Is this the treat? - This is the treat, this is the treat, this is the treat. - This is the treat. - I feel like it's gonna be someone's head. - Yeah. - Yeah. - So this was your first spot. - Yeah, this is my first home that I ever owned. And then we met Kristen and we fell in love in COVID in this home and wow. - And it looks just like this. - Okay. - And he looked just like that. - Yeah, yeah. - And he fell in love. - That's wild. - Yeah, you look good too. - Oh yeah. - You look great too. - You look good. - Thanks Ben and you. - You're like the stylist, the most stylish version of what that outfit can look like. It's like, I know these are like the expensive versions of those things. You look very, you look good. - I see this one. - Yeah, yeah. - You look fancy. - You look too, your voice just cracks. - I know, I know, I know. - It's an old television. - Oh. (laughing) - I'm younger than I am. - Oh. - Can I get a coffee? - A coffee? - Yeah. - Do you guys have something? - Do you have something? - Yes. - Okay. - You guys dress yourselves in these outfits. - Sorry, I'm just noticing the giant ball set. - Oh yeah, that's a nice. - Yeah. - Yeah. - That's a great thing to keep. - Is that from your show? - Yeah, that's what I thought. - His equipment. - I love the show. - I know the way. - I know the way. - I love the show. - Okay, I love your guys' show. - Thank you. - I love a show more. It's the best show I've ever seen in my life. - Thank you. - You know, the first time I ever saw Breaking Bad was the season finale. - Series finale. - Okay. - Listen, listen. - This will fall to the end of the week. - I know, this will fall to the end of the week. - Okay. - So here's what happened. - Yeah. - I'm at the time working on Ed Sheeran's album. Okay, we're in New York and he said, holy shit. The finale is, you know, with traveling. He got all mixed up. He's like the finale is today. He rents a hotel room. Gets all this stuff, we can do it. So I'm watching the last episode. And I remember being like, oh, this is like really good. And this was in like, what year was that? 2018. - 13. - 13. - 13 is when it ended. - Yeah. - Okay, so then I live my life. COVID hit. - Yeah. - Okay. - I have to watch all the best shows of all time. And I look up, I say best shows of all time. I had already seen a few of the shows, Wires, Sopranos, and there was like a battle going on for the best shows. And it was you guys, Sopranos, the Wire. And I said, I gotta put this on. I put it on. From the second I started it. I did not stop. - Eyes are blank. - Well, 'cause there was COVID. It was the exact start of COVID. And then I just watched it all over again with my wife now. - We've never seen it. - Oh, great. - And liked it more the second time. - Oh, I love that. - Come into a room, and be like, and I'll be like, do all the little things, the guy who rings the bell. - What's this thing called? - Salamack. - It's called Hector Salamack. - Like, do you guys ever watch it? - I haven't seen it since it aired. - No. - Did I watch it every time it came out? - We did, yeah. - Yeah. - It's good to see what they've did, what takes they did, and putting it together. And we appreciate it. But we had to move on. You know what I mean? We got another one, and another one, another one. And I would watch it again. I haven't seen it since it, 13 years ago. And I would watch it again, but I'd like to watch it like what you were talking about. With someone who hasn't seen it yet. Be kind of fun to say. - Did this look familiar? - Yes. - I've seen the pilot. - I've seen the pilot, probably 100 times. - Okay. - The pilot script, like 100 times. - It's great. - It's the best written pilot script ever. - What's so great about events? 'Cause he always, we had such an incredible writers room, but the events always does his polish. And he is talking to the readers. He is talking to the people that are reading it. So he's talking to the cast. He's talking to the crew. You know, he references some of the people in the script. It's just amazing. - It's such, it's so like for trying to write and learning to write, it's like the perfect example of how to capture all of the cinema, like the cinema, even the descriptions are so cinematic. - Yeah, yeah. - So when I read it and I was offered the role, our daughter was just about to enter high school. It's a very critical time, you know. And this was shooting in New Mexico. So I gave it to my wife and I said, I want you to read this. I've just been offered it after, and she knew about it, but she hadn't read it yet. And I said, just know it shoots in New Mexico. She goes, okay, and she starts reading. And I would peek in to see, 'cause I knew it was so good. - Yeah, yeah. - And she's flipping and going. And because that's, you can't stop just like the show. And she went all the way through and I knew when she was getting at the end and I'm peeking around and she finished the last page, looked at me, threw it over the bed and said, shit, I really love that. - Wow. - 'Cause she knew I had to say-- - That you're gonna be gone for. - And then I had to spend six, seven months in New Mexico. - So you both lived there during-- - Live there? - Yeah, I mean, it was about six months, son. - Were you married when that happened? - No, I met her very early on. Met Lauren very early on. - Well, he went through a couple girlfriends that I met that are-- - Whoa! - I mean, not that many. - Yeah. - Whoa. - There was, yeah, there was-- - Oh, so you went in there. - You met her, you met her season two. - I met her season three. - Oh my god, so you see-- - So it was before the show sort of really took off. - Yeah, you don't talk about-- - What's the deal with that? Didn't it like take three seasons to get to the level popularity that it could deserve? - So what happened was, first season, we were incredibly proud of it. You know, we did seven episodes. We were cut short, my two, because of the writer's strike. - Yeah, oh yeah. - But the critics loved the show, yeah, we were only getting, I think, at 700 or 800,000 at the most in the season. in one way, why is it people like really watching this show? - Yeah. - But when it really exploded was we landed three seasons on Netflix just while we were shooting season four. And we were actually, oh, believe it or not, but we were the very first new bingeable show ever on Netflix ever, which was crazy. - What also helped is that they had very recently just switched, I don't know if you remember the red envelope. I see you in the mail or when you're sending a movie Netflix back and forth. And that stopped and it's just streaming. And then that's what really helped because then people could watch and get addicted to it. - I remember the first time I heard of Netflix. My friend, when I was a kid, when I was, I wonder when Netflix came out, probably when I was like 14, maybe 13. Something like that. I just remember, I just remember my friend would get movies in the mail and then he was like, we can get any movie we want and we just ship it back. - That was so cool. - And I was like, what are you talking about? And he was like, he's like, we never have to go to black pressure again. - I don't think that was that cool. - What do you mean, it's amazing? - You don't have to go to black. - You don't have to go to black pressure. - Black pressure wasn't a lie. - No, I remember though thinking it was, it was so cool. - A cool option for sure. - I remember being really like not impressed with the business model. - I was thinking like, I don't know if this thing's gonna work, obviously I'm totally wrong. And thinking like, is it really that convenient to have this thing mail to me when I can just go to, I wouldn't even want the pressure to have to pick it out and advance and be organized like that. - We used to take our daughter and it's like, we need you to get to select one. And mommy and daddy was like one, okay, one candy. And it was like a fun event. - It should bring you to that. - As like, they're like, oh, movie theater, like I would never, those places are weird and yeah. Do you guys notice when like how everyone's TVs are on the wrong mode? - Oh yeah. - Do you notice? - It's too crisp. - It's too crisp. - It's too heavy to crisp so you can reset that. - It's for live sports. - So all the TVs come set, so like optimize live sports. - And it turns every cinematic thing. Any TV show, any movie into looking like it's a soap opera. - Or it's like it hasn't been rendered. Like it looks like it's like not the final acting. - Yeah, so it looks totally, and then truly, and like the common man or woman, I feel like really doesn't even notice. So it's like, which is so hard-waking. - Here's the common man. - Exactly. - Yeah, no, I rewatched the wire when we were, when we were shooting Breaking Bad and I put it on my TV. I'm like, what is this? - It looks like shit. - It looks like it was filmed on like a new cellphone. - Yeah. - And then I was able to reset the settings. - I'm gonna taste the mask out now. - Yeah, tell us about the inception of this. - Yeah, why don't you guys start thinking? - Yeah. - We've been working on this for a close to a decade. - Oh wow. - Yeah, we've been out on the market. July 9th will be seven years, but I just honestly, I just love this guy so much. He's truly, truly my best friend of the world, and yeah, we just really hit it off with Breaking Bad. And I'm like, this guy, I always say it, he's the hardest worker in the room. - Thank you, man. I appreciate it. - No, he really is. He is just the best, but also the most immature person you've ever met. - The most immature person you've ever met in your life, and it's just such a great combo. It's just an elevator picture like why we did it, is I missed him. And three years post, the finale Breaking Bad, he was doing a play in New York. I was doing a show and we caught up and had sushi together. And he pitched me, he's like, do you think it's too soon to do another show or a movie? - I go, I think it's a little too soon. And we sort of spit-balling ideas of what we could do together at the sushi meal. - At the sushi meal. And then out of no, I never thought I'm starting a booze company, and I go, what do you think about booze? And he laughed to me, thinking I was joking, and he goes, no, man, I'm being serious. What do you think about Mascow? And he almost did a spit-take. He goes, the shitty spirit with the dead worm at the bottom of it. No, man, that's not how they do this thing anymore. Because he had a terrible experience with Mascow. - That was my introduction to it. - Back in the day. - Of course. - Plastic bottle. - Yeah. - So it was like a dollar and a quarter or something, and it was awful. - What's the worm do? - It was like worm-wet. - It's actually back in the day, they wanted to not have people confused with tequila and Mascow. And so they just literally put a worm in the Mascow. - Ah. - It was also, it's like, it's a show, but typically it was very shitty Mascow. We didn't have options back then. - So this has been out for over six years. We're just launching a hard tequila. - I got some left. - You can drink this. - It smells like, yeah. - It smells like, wow, thank you. - Smell this. Now smell him. - A little bit. - Yeah, I do, I see. - I just rubbed that all around. - Yeah, I guess, like a leatherie. Not in a bad way. - Oh my god. - Which one do I get? - Baker. - Yeah. - Give me one of those. - Look at that. - You guys ready to cook a little? - Yeah, you wanna go. - Like are these cousins? Are they related to Cuba and Mascow? - Yeah. - Just a little sip. - Mmm. - Cheers. - Cheers. - Thank you guys. - It's an honor to have you here. - Yeah. - A true honor. - It was great to be here. - Yeah. - I'm such a big fan of this operation. - Is this an extra? - I think it happens. - Did you see that? - Oh, I love it. It's delicious. - Oh yeah. - I love it. - It's delicious. - Oh yeah. - I love it. - I had to get on social media. - I know. - But I don't even know what's going on in the world now. - She doesn't. - I know about a few things to see in it. - Ow. - That hurt? - Yeah. - What? - Ow. - That actually hurt? - It did feel like something. - It did. - It was. - It was. - It was. - It was. - It was. - It was. - Oh, it's movie magic glass. - It is? - Yeah. - Everybody okay? - I thought that was just okay. - All right. - Let's show that with this. - It did hurt a little bit. - Wait, wait, wait. - I want to break something. - Here, I got a bunch of movie magic glasses. - You do it? - Sort of got it. - Wait, do it. - I've been wanting to do this for so long. - Yeah. - I actually have. In a nice way, in a gentle way. - I don't know. - You're going to break that over my head. - No, not me. - Or a malicious way. But I've always wanted to break a beaker of your head. - Yeah. - Do it. - It does hurt. - It does hurt you. It does hurt me. - And I chastise you. - Well, you just shut up. - It hurt a little bit. - Hey, I'm back. - Hey, I'm forward, brother. - No, I can't even do it. It's like, it's so chewed dare. - It's so chewed. - It's so wrong. - It's not so right here. You want a bigger one? - Give me a hug. - Let me do it. - Chris. - Okay, wait. - For now, he gets to do it to you. - You're so sweet. - Make sure it's actually not real fast. - Okay. - Only one of them is real fast. - Oh my god, it's bleeding. - Just a little. - Oh my god. - Yeah. - He said when you're old, this is what happens. - I'm telling you. I'm telling you. - Remember, I told you this. - I don't really know if we have a bandaid here. - I'm so sorry. - Are you guys supposed to say that? - It's all right. - Oh! - It's bleeding fast. - So as I was saying, it really went sideways. - Ollie popped time, everybody. - Oh my god. - Which flavor? - Wait, that was like white. - What are you grabbing? - Who blackberry with an yellow? - I'll take some raspberry sugar. - Do you know that they just. - That they brought this one back? - They do? - Back by popular demand. - Now why does it smell sherbet? - Oh my god. - This is the best smelling thing I've ever smelled in my life. - Oh my god. - I use to have an ice cream, like a sherbet like this, when I was a kid in upstate New York with my grandma. And she's dead. It literally just brought me back to this. - By any two cans of Ollie Poppins store, and they'll pay you back for one. Any flavor, any retailer, go to drinkallipop.com/fks. Oh my god, this is a memory lane. - White cloth. - Say yes. - Speaking of saying yes, Benny. Benny is directed towards you, because we did have a group chat about how you were going to help my voice sound better. And I think it's now a really good time. - Are you talking to me? We're spontaneously hanging out right now. - We're spontaneously hanging out. And right after this, we're going to go. We're going to take me to the studio and you're going to make my voice sound better. - I love this drink. - Please drink responsibly. - Hard salsa with flavor, it's white cloth, salsa with rice. - Should call it a little more. - Say yes. - Well, that was cool. - Say yes. - Yeah. Can we talk about David? - I mean, I did eat one of these earlier around my brain. - I know, and your arms are looking. - No, I think these are really good. - These things provide strength. - The most strength, Jack. You need to start eating them so your back doesn't deteriorate. - I did like it. It's like good. Well, I had the chocolate. I had the chocolate chip cookie dough. - Chocolate chip cookie dough is amazing. - Yeah. - Goofy pie is amazing. Red velvet is amazing. - I just got to eat this stuff to get stronger after the lift weights too. - You might want to lift weights. - You might want to do both. But check the profile, so good. That's 150 calories, 20 grams of protein and zero sugar. Literally, zero sugar. - Zero sugar. - How do you know so much about? - I'm a backwards type of guy. - David is available at Walmart stores nationwide and on Walmart.com. You can try a single bar for only $2.97. Go for that one for yourself. - Go for that one for yourself. - How long have you been married? - Almost 13 years. - Wow. - Because we're all newlyweds. Give us, you each give us one. How do you do it? - So the best thing is to think of the five most important things you want in your partner. - Okay. - Yeah. - Okay. - It might be, well, fidelity and humor and moral center or someone like a decent person. - Yeah. - Maybe someone, you know, is it intelligence? Is it whatever, is it your physical attraction? What are the five, right? - Yeah. - Pick those five. and let everything else go. - Yeah. - I love that. - That's just because it's you're just let it go. Like there are certain things around the house that my wife and I will never see eye to eye on. It's just like, tell me one of them. - Oh, well. (audience laughing) She is very neat and together person but she's not an organized person. So I like to have things. When I go to my refrigerator, I like to know where things are. - Yeah. - You know what I mean? - Me too. - And it's like, and it's like, I pulled out like five open jars of mayonnaise one time and I was like, okay. - There's so much mayo. - That can save you off. - Yeah, too much mayo. - And the refrigerator is stuffed with five different mayo and six different this and seven, you know, it's like, and so I said, how about condiments in the floor? - Yeah. - You know the whole, and salad dressing and that stuff. And you know, it's just hard for her. So she goes up, she gets it and she puts it back. It could be top shelf, it could be bottom shelf, it could be hard for me and you. One thing we'd see eye to eye on in our relationship. - You're telling me, you guys put everything back. When you take it out, you put exactly that. - The exact same spot I ever put it back before and all the labels have to be facing forward. - Are you using your birthday? - March. - March my two. - You? - March one. - Eight. - Oh my God, you two. - Oh, let's go. - Swiss. - Pisces. - 15th. - 15th? - Yeah. - Pisces. - It's your birthday. - Oh, that is seventh. - Oh, your birthday. - Oh, you said it. - Yeah, your birthday. - My mom's birthday. - Okay, yeah. - I'm very organized. - Yeah. - I'm a little LCD. - But I think, yeah, with me, it's just all about, well, communication. - Yeah. - Patience and just understanding one another. - Each of you, everyone's so different, right? So you all kind of have different sorts of points of view. But, and I always say, whenever I go to a wedding, I write a note that just says, "Never forget the moment we realized." - Wait, wait, wait. - And she'll never forget what moment. - Sorry, he's gizzling. - Never forget the moment. Never forget the moment you realized. - Yeah. - That you, that you. - Oh, that's cool. - That's cool too. - We're a thing. - Yeah. - You're like, this is it, this is my partner. And you want to protect that. And so I think people get in fights or arguments because of like a miscommunication or someone really fucked up. - Yeah. - Like so don't, but what I truly, like just don't fuck up. Just like really lean in, protect it, be patient. - Yep. - 'Cause you're gonna have to weather the storm. - Yeah. - Right? - Kids, right? - And kids are very mean. - There's always something. Fantastic. (audience laughing) - Oh yeah, you saw that? Yeah. That's for you guys. It's all about speaking of a Hector. - Yeah. - Right? - Well, I mean, the production of this-- - This operation is pretty incredible. - I have a question. When you guys were making Breaking Bad and like, and you're being, you're probably receiving all the cliffhangers and whatnot via script form. So are you guys like fiending the scripts and like so excited to sit down-- - No waiting. - Yeah. - Yes. - You ever just like, ah, that? - What's what happened? - Honestly, you know, there was a moment where I see Brian, he's walking out of the production office into the stage and he sees me. He's like, come here. And he gives me this big hug. - Oh, yeah. - And I'm like, what's going on? It's just like this emotional hug. - Yeah. - And he's like, wow though, like crazy. I go, what is going on? He's like, well, you read it, right? The latest script. I'm like, no, I haven't got it yet. He's like, oh shit. - Well, um, boy, you-- - Oh, okay, never mind. Because he said something like, crazy, but what a way to go. - What is he talking about? - Oh, I gotta be honest. - He's straight into the production office. I'm like, where's the script? He's like, it's not ready yet. I'm like, well, give me the writers draft or something. - Yeah. - No, that no one has it. I'm like, Brian just said he read it. I have to know what's going on. - Oh, yeah. - I thought they were just kind of being cautious and being protective of my feelings. - Yeah. - Let me read an outline something. He's just fucking with me. - Yeah. - He made me think that I was-- - That's a great prank. - That's a great prank. - He was supposed to die. - Was he? - Yeah, the character was supposed to die. - He was supposed to die in what season? - First season. - Yeah, that's what I did. - I didn't know that going into it. - I read that, but I wasn't sure if it was real. - You must feel proud. I mean, you just earned your way out of death to the ultimate of life, like bustin' through that fence. Drive it out. - He's a perfectionist, by the way. - What is this missing? I'm kind of doing it in a roundabout way. - You want me to get for it? - It's just something, you know. - It tastes good. - It tastes good. Is there a simple syrup? - We have these things. - A little simple syrup, a little-- - Oh yeah, you have that simple syrup right there. - You got it. - That's all we need. - Just a little, just a little, just a little taste. - That's what it needs. - Just a little pucker up. - It needs a pop, but a little-- - Guys, you guys have dreams about breaking bad and shooting, you miss it? - Wh-- - Oh. - Well, you know, when it ended 13 years ago, I thought, well, that's the end of that. This is the last time I'll see these people and then I was, and then he did a movie called El Camino, which extended the story of what happened to Jesse, which people wanted to know. - Yeah. - And so I was doing a play in New York at the time, and I got into a car right after my Sunday matinee, flew on a private jet to Albuquerque. - Nice. - They put a shroud over me getting off the plane as they didn't want anybody to know anything. They put me into an Airbnb. I couldn't leave. - Oh my God. - No. - And then the next day, I had that shroud open again, and I think they said, what were our names? Your name? - Oh, uh, uh, Bert and Ernie. Bert and Ernie. - That was our name. - That was our call sheet, Bert and Ernie. - Bert and Ernie. - And they put me in a bald cap and the whole thing. - Oh, I, yeah. - And I did a little, a little couple days with him and then flew back to New York to continue. - And then we did a little bit on Better Call Saul. - Yeah, Better Call Saul was like that. - But when we were shooting, I mean, I was having dreams as the guy, like as Jesse. - Really? - Yeah. - How did that stress you out when you were having a good, - Yeah. - Did you forget how to talk like yourself? - It's better. - You guys are so sweet. Your relationship makes me want to cry. - Yeah. - So that was sweet. - Normally, Bert feeds me. - My food. - It is sweet. - I've never witnessed, I've never seen big fans of the show. Yeah, I've just never witnessed this. - It's dynamic. - I'm a person, so it's like, taking me. - I love the guy. You know, I gotta tell you something. - Yeah. - He's about to have a pretty serious surgery. - Oh. - Really? - Yeah, he's having a shoulder surgery. - Tommy John? - Replacing, replacing my shoulder. - He used to, you know, I mean, - Lost baseball. - It was incredible picture. - Oh wow. You know what, you know what, he's giving me? - What? - He's an old shoulder. - He's giving me his old shoulder. - It's a match. - Wait, really? - I'm giving him my shoulder to cry. - Yeah, that's so bad. - He'll have my bones in it. - He's gonna try. I don't know if they're gonna let him. - My aunt did that. You can ask for the bones. - There you go. - The bones. - She didn't really give him this boat. - I'm gonna put it on my mantle. - What can I pour these in? Do you have any of these? - I'm gonna ask things to bring. - No, we have real. We have real. - I asked the question about your wire rewashed when you were shooting Breaking Bad. - Yeah, of course. - Or you just like, oh my god, what season, like do you remember when you started the national wire? - I started rewatching the wire season, the second season. - Okay. - Yeah. - 'Cause I was hoping that you were gonna say the fourth season, if something. - Right. - Because you were like, oh my god, I'm in the middle of one of these things right now. - Yeah. - Like did that influence your rewatch timing? - Or no. - Maybe. To be honest, we watched the pilot together. We knew when we read the pilot, right? Oh my god, this is the greatest thing we've ever read. The pilot of Breaking Bad was the sixth or seventh pilot that I had done. - But the previous one's never went to sea. - Yeah. - And I was, that was the most strapped I've been financially. - Yeah. - I really needed, do you want glass? - No. - I really needed this pilot to work out. - But also he was living in a closet. That's where he was. - I had a studio apartment, a roommate moved in. I had a, I would sleep on the bed for a week and then I would move to the closet for a week. - You guys would change, change. - And just swap. - Yeah. - Hi. - And so I was struggling in the, then Breaking Bad just kind of cook up. But when we watched the pilot for the first time, this was before we were picked up. - Right. - Oh my god. - Our jaws were on the floor. - Do you think it was gonna be great? - Right away. - Oh, we, just execution on all levels. We were like, oh my god. And we thought, are they gonna make the announcement to us that we got picked up? They didn't. And then we didn't find out for like three weeks after that. - I must have been frustrating to, 'cause you know, two seasons go by. I've been one of the best shows ever made and it's not being necessarily appreciated on the level. - Right. - But he won the Emmy for the first season for seven episodes. - Okay. - So vertically it was being praised. But the people, the public hadn't really caught on yet. - It's interesting. Netflix truly saved us. - You know, there's all sorts of things. - Oh, beautiful work. - When you're making something. Sometimes I don't know like when a song's gonna be big. Or sometimes I'm the opposite way. I think it's gonna be big. It's not. Also sometimes I'll work with someone and it takes so long for them to get big. - Right. - Or it takes so long. - And it'll be a straight one. - And I'm like, how does everyone not know? - But do you know though, sometimes with music, do you know it's just an instant? - Yeah, this is so beautiful. - You know what I'm saying? - I don't feel like, yes. - Benny, you can identify when something's really good. - Yes, but you can't possibly say this is gonna hit. We don't know what's going to hit. - Okay, back in the day before like TikTok and all that stuff, I had a really good, like if I saw a song was gonna be big, I'd say more times than not, it became big. Now it's a little bit more difficult because-- - You're losing your time. - I'm losing my time. I'm all, I definitely, no, and it's tough because there's so many other factors now because in a cool way, people-- - Thank you. - Oh, thank you. - Oh, yeah, let's taste this. - I have to-- - Salud, salud, salud, salud, salud. - Wow, this is great. - To breaking glass. - Break glass. - Oh, that's the best one, man. - No, no, no, no, hold off. - That's unbelievable. - Perfect, all right. - Couldn't be a better drink. - Unbelievable. - Were you even good at making drinks like this before this venture? - No, really, yes. - You know what, Erin and I are very used to being in a position of not knowing. As an actor, you go into something and I don't know who this character is or what I'm gonna do with it. So we went into this very comfortable with not knowing and you learn, you just start absorbing exactly how it's made and then behind the bar, it's like watching bartenders who really know what they're doing, then you kind of emulate that. - Yep. - So this was just kind of a the best margarita I've ever had in my life. - I agree, so good. - I'm not saying this 'cause I don't drink. - Top three. - Anything other than white wine, this is so good. - I really believe it. - You first said it was the best margarita you ever had. - Now you're saying it's top three. - I want it to be real. I'm always, I don't lie. - You know what? - It's a knock out of your sh*t. - Do you guys wanna sit on the couch? - Sure. - Oh God, wait till you taste this. - You wanna do a little caviar bomb? - Do I snort this? - Whatever, wait, it's up to you. - I wanna see you snort it. (laughing) - I haven't eaten anything. - I have huge textural phobia, I've just tried a grape for the first time this year. - I hope you guys don't think you're leaving. You guys can stay out there. - I don't wanna leave. - We're gonna watch Breaking Bad. (laughing) - Oh my god. - It has good protein. - Try that. - Yeah, it has good protein. - It will give you more protein. - This is a lot of. - That's a lot. - I'm going big boy. - Hmm. - You like caviar? - Hold on. - I'm so proud of you. - Thank you. - It's a big deal. - No, I'm so proud of you. - I was worried. - You're gonna know. - I would really taste the individuality of the balls. - Right. - Which would really unnerve me. - No. - Because of your show. - Where you really taste the individuality. - What do you guys say the two of you are? Is this some peak life for you right now? Do you feel like you've kind of done the things you wanna do? And now you're having. You get to do stuff like this. Get a elbow or shoulder surgery. (all laughing) - It's all just such a blessing. - I'm starting to take it a little different. - Yeah. - I'm starting to degrade. - No, no. You look great by the way. - Oh, gosh. - You really do. - Doesn't he? - No, but, you know, I've been 37 years. And my wife, Robin, has been my champion through, you know, all these years. I've been an actor for 47 years. - Wow. - I mean, even on a bigger scale than Breaking Bad, like, wouldn't you say you're big break in your acting? I mean, Malcolm in the middle was probably the big thing, yeah. But then, yeah. But even that, you were like, how old were you? And Malcolm in the middle started? - 41. - Yeah. - And you weren't even supposed to be. Was that supposed to be as big of a role in that show at the beginning? - Well, you know, I mean, to have a career, you need. You have to be talented. You have to have perseverance and patience. But you also need a healthy dose of luck. - Yeah. - He was going to be cut from our show. But, for the strike, Vince Gilligan didn't get that far in the show. - Yeah. - And he wasn't. - Wow. - That's cool. - In the first season. - Yes. - So, right? - No, no. Honestly, when we shot the pilot and Vince sold the idea of the arc of the show, the arc of the first season was Jesse Pinkman introduces Walt to the drug world. And by towards the end of the. Not in the finale, it's like the episode before the finale. Pinkman dies and then Walt is then led to go out for revenge into the second season. - That's good, right? - But when we. - I wish it wouldn't happen that way. - When we shot the pilot and we got picked up, Vince told me, while we were shooting the first season, towards the end of it, he pulled me over during lunch and he's like, "I want to tell you something. He's having lunch with all the writers." - I want you to start making the lunch for all the kids. - Because you're about to die. - No, we wanted to do that. - He's like, "I want you to know the original plan was to kill you off at the end of the season." We still had like two more episodes to shoot. And my heart just starts pounding through my chest. I'm like, "Well, what do you mean? When am I going to die?" He's like, "No, no, no, you're not going to die." When we shot the pilot and we saw what you and Brian were doing together, we just loved that dynamic so much. So when they got picked up, the first meeting in the writers room, they decided to change the whole dynamic. - That's amazing. - We're now longer going to have him die. - Dude, your life could have been so different. - You feel probably, I would have been so sad. - I would have been so sad. - I would have been so sad, heartbroken. - Yeah, it would break everyone's heartburn. - You probably had the fear you're like, "Am I disposed of it?" - And then he messes with me that I'm going to die. And then he started, it was like the domino that fell. And then everybody started to get in on it. A producer came up to me and they're like, "Hey, you're going to need to stay afterwards "to get the measurements for the coffin." They're like measurements for the coffin. They're like, "What coffin are they?" And they're like, "Oh my God, right, you haven't read that." You know what? Forget it. I'll let Vince talk to you about it. - What are they doing? - Yeah, it's all his fault. - And even, to me, Stranger Bell dying in the wire. - Oh my God. - It's a chip to you as a series. You have probably one time where you can really kill a beloved character. And when Stranger Bell died in the wire, boy, was my world absolutely fine. - And the way he died, yes. - Oh God. - You know who was a chip that died in a way that somebody has to die at some point. In a show like Breaking Bad or The Wire. - Yeah. - And I thought a death that rocked me in Breaking Bad was Gus. Obviously, in general, it was character, but the way in which his face fell out. - Oh yeah. - It was just-- - Oh yeah, right. - I have that head. - Great use of a death in my opinion is the way Gus wanted it. - Okay. - And that's a good point. - That's because you shouldn't kill off a character without great value. You have to be careful of how you do that. - You know, Gus was the coolest death. But Hank was the one that gutted me the most. - Oh my God. - When did you guys get married? - August. - We really was. - We got amazing. Enjoy it. - We got married one month apart. - Yeah. - Really? - Yeah, back to back. - Was that a plan or was it like-- - No, ours, honestly, ours was the only time it could fit in our schedules that we-- - No. - Or we'd have to wait another year. And we were like, oh, let's just do it then. - And he was on a deadline. He had, I gave him a-- - Oh, yeah. - She gave me an ultimatum. - I gave him an ultimatum. - Your wife gave an ultimatum? - It was very subtle. - Yeah. - But she was-- - We were in our 30s already. - We were in our 30s already. And she's like, you know, anyone valuable with self-- - Yes. - Of course. - He's just like, this is a couple of awareness. It's like-- - No, I don't like her way forever. - She's gonna pop. - I respect you. - Yeah. - That's right. - I could not respect an ultimatum. More, in fact, it's crazy that we even live in a world where like, women got to just wait till the men decide if they're worthy of us. - Yeah. - A writer of my show, a wonderful woman named Vanessa. - Okay. - It was a mutual friend. - She was born in with Vanessa and Vanessa told me, 'cause I was always saying Vanessa, you've got to know somebody. Like, set me up. I was like a hopeless romantic dating, just waiting to-- - Yeah. - I really was like being patient exactly. And then she was like, oh my god, my friend, Kristen, I'm born in with her. And I think she might be your wife. And it was like 11 p.m. already. I went down at 11. It was like-- - Oh, you went there? - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - It's a good one. - I didn't drive in there. - I really bold to say. I think she might be-- - I have a wife. - I have a wife. - I'm 19. I'm shooting a video with Selena. - Oh, yeah. - I'm dating someone else. - Yeah. - My mom's on the video shoot. And she says, she's just sitting there. She's like, "Hon, she's like, you should marry Selena." And I was like, "What?" And she was like, "You should be dating someone like Selena." And there was like two times in my life where I left a specific session or video with her where I was like, "Wow, she's so cool." - Yeah. - 'Cause we were friendly and we were friends, but we weren't best friends. And every time I hung out with her for an extended period of time, I'd be like, "Oh my God, she's so cool." I actually, an ex-girlfriend of mine, from way before that, like five years before that, I was texting with her one time and she said, "You know, it's so great. You guys got married." I remember you talking so positively about Selena, even when we were together, just as a friendly thing. No, not as like-- - No, okay. - Yeah, so your mom planted the scene and she was like, "You should really," and I was like, "Mom, I'm not-- She was like, "I really want you to be with-- She's like, she's got her head on her shoulders." - Yeah. - "Mom, I have a girlfriend." - Yeah, I did. I was crazy. - Yeah. She's so sweet, you know, she's this and that. - She's such a sweetheart. - Everyone says you always marry your best friend. Like that's when it works. - That's the best friend. - And it was like the goal. - She's my fucking best friend. - Yeah. - And it's like, look at this. - Look at you two newlyweds, so cute. - We've been back a lot of time together. He's a little bit afraid when we have kids. He's like, I know. - Well, emotionally, the reality is that's normal and that's good. - What's the reality? - The fear is normal. - I have a certain level I always have. A degree of incompetence to, like I'm incredibly smart in certain ways and incredibly incompetent in other ways. - Yeah. - And I, there's, I just have, - Should I give the example of driving today? - He doesn't know anything about it. - Neither one of them. - The speed limit? She goes, she goes, you know, I'm driving like 38 miles an hour. - No, no. - She goes, she's driving 23 miles an hour. - Yeah, there's a car right in front. - But there's a whole plane. - She goes, she goes, you know the speed limit. - It's 45, I say, okay, there's a car right in front. - No, no, you go, okay, am I going too fast? - Yes, I'm not going too fast. - And I thought, well, when he looked at the speed, it's right in front of me. - I did, I looked at it. Previous before that, I was cruising at about 40. - I just, and I said, are you asking, I said, I don't understand. Like, to me, my brain was like, if someone says to me, do you know the speed limit's 45? I would instantly look at the speedometer in front of me and say, - Neither one of them I'd be prepared to have children. - Yeah, I'm prepared. So I think that there's a level of incompetence to me that is just innate in me. That on the one hand, I want to be like, I will work on that. And I should work on that, and I will work on that. But I think that there is something in me that is really an apple battle. But I will be better than I would be if I did nothing. But I still will never be the great version of that competent, like at all times, there are certain things that I'm going to do that's better than any father could ever do with their other things. - I will say, the moment you have a child, there's something that has been laid dormant inside of me that just comes out of you. The moment it's just like natural instincts, you know? Granted, yeah, there are some people that clearly should not be parents. It's just like the abuse of mean people. But you are just such ray of light. - Yeah. - You know, and you have such great energy or good people. - Sure, sure. - Thank you. - And. - He loves our dog. - You guys will make sure, you guys will make, you guys will make up for all your shortcomings and with love. - I have a lot of love to give, for sure. - I can tell that about you. - You feel like I can take care of myself. You get married, you have a partner and you go, yeah, I can expand that to feeling responsible for each other. - Yeah. - And then you expand it to a child and for the first time in my life, I had fear. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Like, what, how can I protect this little being? And you start, you know, you have some nightmare sometimes. You say, oh, God, so you start wearing your heart on the outside when you have a child. - Yeah. - And you will forever be parenting. Our daughter's 33 years old. - Crazy. - We don't stop parenting. - Yeah. - You just do it differently. - Yeah. - Are you scared when you first had a kid? - Kind of, but also excited. - Yeah. - Terrible excited. - But it's good to be scared. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I was terrified. - It creates caution. - It creates the greatest thing in the world. - It is, yeah. - Actually good to be actors and be scared because you get another feeling of like human emotion or kind of use to that. And again, going back into the, we don't know anything kind of thing. - Yeah. - Yeah. - We go into something we're not really sure. Well, that's parenting. Again, we're like, oh, it's like what, what we do in acting, we get my mom dead, you know. - My mom told me this. My mom said, nobody knows anything. She said, first of all, people is now no way too much. She's like, back in the day before there's nothing. There's no, there's no anything. You're just like, oh, fuck, what does this mean? And she was like, and you figured it out. She, my mom said, my mom said, any it's figure it out. She was like, I love your mom. - Yeah, she's like, there's people. - Yeah, that's true. - It's true, you'll figure it out. - Hmm. - Hey FC Box Feast. Chuck, I can't, I can't believe you have one more bite 'cause I gotta say something. - Well, hurry up. - Daddy's gonna eat. - The colonel didn't do the math. He did the chicken. I mean, it's the only way we can explain this irrational amount of food. Look at how much food you saved. - Seven, nine, eleven. - For eleven dollars, I have chicken videos. - A six big sandwich. And fries and a drink that's not in hand, but it exists. - You can have Pepsi Zero Sugar. The colonel's signature lemonade. - No, we don't have to, we don't have to. - We don't have to name all the drinks. - Time to feast at KFC. Prices and participation may vary. Tax tip and fees extra. - Sure. - Lightening peaches. - When you need a new mattress. - What do you do? - I'd used to go store to store and lie on the thing, but now I go on this website that he looks has, and I take a quiz and I really get all this thoughtful information about exactly what type of mattress I should use. And I actually have a helix. - It's way more efficient to do it this way. - Are you telling me? - We've been sleeping on helix. - That I can rid myself of back pain and overheating. - You can get to a better place in life. - Where do I go for this sleep quiz? - Go to helixsleep.com. And this is important after you check out enter FKS, so they know that we send you. - Because we did, we send you. We're sending you right now. - helixsleep.com/FKS. - It's so rare to have, you know, there's like three shows that people talk about being the biggest shows ever. Now you have like successful things after it. Do you guys still like seek new, are you still seeking like? - It's all about balance. - Yeah. - The adults seeking balance, how much to yourself, how much to your partner, how much to your children, how much to your house, how much to your folks, how much it's constantly moving up and down. And that's what you're looking for. - Yeah, you're balancing your everyday human life. - You want to try to find some kind of balance? - As you know, it's such a blessing to just be here, to exist, but to do what you truly love. Whatever that may be, to do what you truly love is such a blessing. And then why I really started leaning to business has allowed me to just be with my wife and kid. - That's so good. It really has. - I love that. - 'Cause I can do this anywhere. - Yeah. - And you know, at the popaway, from time to time, just for business trips, but. - Did that shift after like breaking bad? Like I feel like a lot of actors in this town, it's like you're waiting for this big thing that you get to have to show what your capable of. Like, and then you got that thing, then did you guys kind of feel like this part of me at least has been somewhat shown that I can kind of move? - Well, you know, I think I can answer for both of us, but you definitely got more opportunities before breaking bad than I did. But then once breaking bad happened, it was crazy the opportunities that started presenting themselves to us and everyone really involved in the show. - Yeah. - And so it's just all about trying to be sort of selective and you know, picky on what you want to tackle next. Because in this industry, you're just like, you're really only as good as your most recent project. - Except unless, unless you guys are you and you make the best show of the time. - Yeah. (laughing) - And that's it. - You know, we move on, we do other things, other series, other movies or theater, whatever. To know that the first line in our eventual obituaries will be breaking bad. - Yeah. - It's great. - Or it could say. - It's like tequila. (laughing) - Caviar. - I did have one other question. I did have one other question. - Yeah. - And then I have another question. - I bet you have more than one. - Yeah. - I think there's my last question I care about. - No. - You always ask questions. - I've got one more question. It's like, yes. - And a few thousand more. - And I'm just so happy for the three of you. I'm just having, this is such a great time. I haven't done a podcast or any radio in North of a decade. - Hell yeah. - I swore it off. - Wow. - He had a bad experience. - I had a bad experience, you know, North of 10 years ago on a radio tour, you know, you wake up at four in the morning. - Sure. - And then they're just like the personalities were just way too intense from that early in the morning. And they, it just felt like they were having me a little bit. And I'm like, you know what, I don't want to do this anymore. So I've been saying no to literally everything. But I, I mean, I love this guy. I actually met you two at the same time. The same day, like years ago. - Yeah, yeah. - But you remembered him. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - You're the same touch. - We say the same touch. - He's just like it. - When this came out, I became such a massive fan. - Are you serious? - And then, you know, we got to know that you asked us to be a part of it. So I reached out and like, hey, we would love to do it. And so anyways, this is such a great version. - It's such a great time. - Thank you for saying that. I feel like this has been out so, such a small amount of time that it like we've really-- - What a great response. - I know. - People are so fortunate. - But are they, read me the comments. Anything negative? - No, no. - She's had it completely, she disconnects completely - And of course, you look at my social media. I have two posts. I do not go on social media. You have to consider social media just as you do food. - Oh yeah. - You're putting it into your body. You're putting social media into your brain. Is it healthy for you? - No. - You have to have a filter and say enough. - We don't say you should be addicted, but yeah, we're going to keep pumping out the content. - Yeah. - No, I mean, I'm sure it's true, and I know all social channels. - I think that I go to TikTok and I go to Instagram for actual like connection and like a rush of dopamine. - Yeah. - When I say, it's what it is. It's the most widely accepted drug in the world. - Yeah. - Yes. - It's a drug. - This is my dopamine. You should be going to caviar and to caviar. - I will. - I think we're going to use that. - I love that you keep diving in. - I love you. - I'm proud of all of you. - I want to ask my one question. - Oh yeah. - I haven't asked yet. - Okay. - If a man came in here with a gun. - No. - That's my second question. - Who would you protect? - I had to suck your dick. - No, that's almost what I was gonna add. - No, so my question was, you actually shaved your head for the show, right? - Yeah. - Was, did you like have to, were you so scared? Have you ever seen your head, have you ever seen your head with, like, did you, what have you had like, moles or shit come, yeah? - You weren't gonna give a fuck? - That was your burning question. - Yeah. - Or did you, I actually think it's a good question. - Was your wife like, are you fucking nuts? - No, no, no, I mean, we're actors. I'm looking forward to looking different, feeling different. - Yeah, yeah. - In between jobs, I usually grow my hair, grow facial hair. I'm working on the studio right now, so I keep it clean, too. - Great show. - Yes, fun show. - Great show. - But, to shave my head, it saved me time. It would have, it would have saved, it would have, I would have had this come in earlier in the day, put on the ball cap, put it down and do the-- - I mean, they gave you the option. - But also, when you have a ball cap on, you are aware of it. - Oh yeah. - And you're aware of it. - And over 13, 14 hours, it gets hot. - Yeah. - 'Cause the heat stays in, and it's like, - Dave said his dream, we always talk about, our dream would be at the height of everything. We, on this show, shave our full, from here, all the way to here. Eyebrows and everything, just whole thing to shave. - Nothing else now. - Great idea. - Like, you know what, we'll do it right now. - Yeah, I do. - Right now, I don't know. - Can I ask a question about theater? - Yeah. - When you, did you do theater before? Like, when you first started, you were doing theater. - Yeah. - Okay. 'Cause I was gonna say. - That's the idea. - Have you seen it on stage? - No. - No, but I can, I can tell. I love being credible. 'Cause you have such a focus. Like, you have such a good, like. - I'm sorry, what? (laughing) - But my question really was, with TV, do you like theater more than you like acting on TV? - It's really my question. - It's more immediately rewarding. - Yeah. - It's like doing stand-up. Doing, you know, you're right there. You can feel the audience. - It's a high. - It's a high. It's a, yeah, you're getting an ebb and flow relationship with the audience. Your responsibility is to guide them to a story. - Yeah. - And if you don't do it, it's not their fault. It's your fault. - Yeah. - It's like, so you can feel, sometimes they're quiet, but they're really attentive. Sometimes they're boisterous and laughing at everything. And it's like, oh, that's maybe a bit too much about it. But who knows? - I guess TV and film, you have to just go in and out, and in and out, and like snap in and out, but a theater. - That's exactly how I explain it to in television and film, we're in the bits and pieces business. - Yes. - A little bit, a little bit, a little bit. - Yeah. - In theater, it's a beginning, middle, and end every performance. So much more revealing. - I love it. - It's revealing, but that's why it's tougher. It's harder for an actor. - Harder. - It's harder. Oh my God. - But it's so exciting. - It's so easy. - Yeah. - But every, you know, it's like occasionally you have a part on your show where, oh, this is the emotional part. I'm like, oh my God. But if you pick a good play, you have that every performance. It's a gut punch and you should, you know what? Why do the play end? So I finished this play on my birthday, March 7th, on my 70th birthday. The play's over. Three days later, I fly to Italy to do two episodes of the studio in Venice. Now I'm playing this really crazed, wacky character who is in comedy, so the difference from sublime to the ridiculous. - Yeah. - You know, it was such a relief. It was like going on vacation. - Yeah, that's fun. - I mean, he had to go to such turmoil in this play. - Yeah. - And how many shows do you do? - 115. - I mean, I cannot believe that. I mean, what you had to put your body through. - Do you guys feel like every actor has like a little bit of method acting? - Depends on your definition of method acting. I mean, my process is, I mean, the first two years, for example, of Breaking Bad, I try to just stay in it, because I was nervous to lose it, you know? And he came up to me towards the end of the second season. I remember we were washing off her makeup. And he came up to me and he was like, "It's okay to just wash off your makeup and just be. " - You know, you don't have to get yourself into it. - You were so scared to lose that. - He was looking out for me. He saw the shit I was putting myself through. - Yeah. And it was really, really, really hard on me. But I remember going home and I couldn't get that out of my mind. I'm like, I think, you know, he's right. He's right. And so moving on, I just try to force myself to believe that these circumstances are just truly happening. To me as that guy. - Yeah. Everyone has a different process. - Here's a question I have. Like, for example, the scene where you're on the crawl space and episode ends with you laughing. Do you know that you have the ability physically to do that type of laugh and you practice and you know that you have that in you? Or do you just kind of leave it up to letting your emotions get taken over by the character in that moment whatever happens happens? - And what's, sorry, just to add to that, was that, I can't remember, was that laugh, was it scripted? - That's a nice, great, thank you, thank you. - It was scripted that he laughs at the absurdity of the situation. So knowing I was going to do that is I start thinking, what do I find absurd that so it not necessarily funny, but just, I'm a fuck, that this happened kind of thing that you can like ease into. And I don't know what I was thinking of. That's many years ago. So you find something that you're like, oh, that was, that was a weird time. Yeah, and you kind of have that as you're reading through the script and you, you file it away. You're almost like you put a little post-it note in the back of your brain. And if you, when you're doing the scene, if it comes out, it comes out. If it doesn't, you find something else. - Oh, interesting. - Like for me, and I'm not a good example of what an actor is, I feel like I can really act like myself, but these inhabiting these other people, I would struggle with more or less, because I feel like I have trouble getting out of my own head, and I would always be aware that I am me, and I'm playing this character, et cetera. So for me, my best bet, if I had to do that scene, I would have literally practiced, like at least evaluated, what would I do if I left really hard? And like, does that sound like, do I even like the way that feels? Can I replicate, can I do that over and over? I would have like, game that all out. - It's probably a dangerous thing for an actor to think along those terms, because what you're describing is a result. Is you're looking for, how would it actually sound-- - The directorate. - At the end of it, yes. For an actor, you want to leave it open. You don't want to come to a result, because it might be the wrong one. On the day, when you're doing something, you're going, oh, yeah. - And also, you don't know what the other performer is going to be throwing your way, and you know the dialogue, the script, but just how they are emoting everything, is going to change everything. - It's like when you freestyle. It's like, it's like, you never know what's going to, and that's when you always get the best stuff when you're not thinking. Like when you go in thinking about how you have to attack the verse, it's like, you always say, you'll say, oh my God, just do anything random, 'cause that's when you're going to get the best shit. - Are you like, I'm Walter White, or are you like, I'm Brian Cranston, playing Walter White, or are you not like, does those thoughts don't even come into your head? - No, you're thinking as the character. - You're thinking I'm Walter White. Whatever he would do that wasn't necessarily scripted or something, a behavior or something, Walter would have a specific reaction to. Brian would react differently. So you stay in the character. - How do you do that? - You take classes? - It's a gym. You go to the gym. You know your body goes, oh, I know what we're doing here. I'm used to, I know what this exercise is. I know what I'm supposed to do. And so work for us is like going to the gym. We're familiar with it. And I need to stress, and I tell young actors this all the time, any kind of instinct doesn't mean you can't prepare. You need to work all, I don't think I've ever really worked with a genius who just go, yeah, blah, blah, blah, and they're brilliant. - Yeah. - No, it's a lot of hard work. - Would you guys be like, hey, let's rehearse this and find the rhythm? - Not necessarily. - I mean, we're all the day. - Yeah, all the day, we run like, from the pilot to the finale, we shared a trail, like a double banger, like a trailer split and a half, he had one side out of the other, and we would read lines, you know, outside of the trailer, or in the hair make up trailer. - Was there a lot of improv and breaking better? Not. - No. - No. - No, it was such a beautifully written story that you don't want to touch. - Thank God, you guys, I'm here. - Yeah. (laughing) - We gotta talk about the frame TV. - I would love to. - Yeah, it's Samsung's item. - It's beautiful, it draws your eyes to it, where before you'd be like, oh, there's a black box, and I were like, oh my gosh, you have this art, and then I love saying to people, that's a TV. - I know, I love that feeling. - It's not just like basic art. This is an art you can find anywhere. It's got so much like exclusive curation, and you can access it on the Samsung art store, and it gives back to the artist. And for me, for me, I collect art, and I see this, literally, I'm just as proud of my frame TV as I am of a frame piece of art I have. - Go to Samsung and check out the frame TV. - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Ben, what's something that therapy has taught you about yourself? - You know, I really think therapy gave me like a little like mental toolbox of how I can understand myself as I'm having a. panic attack as I'm going through those moments where I really don't know. I feel like my life is ending and there's no other way I can get around it. And then I have this little toolbox that's like calm down. Take a step back, assess the situation. Everything happens within the time that it's supposed to. And I just have all these little like voices now in the back of my head that tell me the right thing of what to do in each moment. If you want to start your therapy journey today, sign up and get 10% off at betterhelp.com/fks. That's better, h-e-l-p.com/fks. You know, two things. One, anytime I see you, you're either with your wife and kids. And it's such a beautiful thing. Like you really do walk the walk and talk the talk. Like anytime I see him, he's like, you're like, so I think I've only seen you one time when you weren't either with your wife or kids or both. Or like, and to me. Yeah, yeah. And it's very cool that you've been able to do all this stuff. And it's like, and still do that. And it's something I really aspire to do. And your like work-life balance from afar seems great too. I don't know if you guys know how stoked are you? His daughter is an amazing actor. She's on one of the biggest shows. And it's like, yeah, what does that feel like? It's so amazing to do it. Better than Heisenberg? Here's the, yeah, yes, because as a parent, as a parent, I will tell you, as you prepare, as you prepare, the thing you want more than anything, the thing you dream about and say prayer is about, please let my children find happiness and joy. I don't care what it is, what occupation they end up or who their partner is. Please let it be joyful and happy. That's all you want. Yeah. And so Taylor being raised in this business and she knew my parents were actors and my grandfather was an actor in Vaudeville. So she's fourth generation actor and she knows and she knows the ups and downs and the ins and outs. And it's like, okay, this is a, she's been around us. It's a family business, very common, but the biggest blessing for Robin and I are that she's in it for the right reasons. She loves it. She's in love with the towel. She's in love with the art and that will sustain. And that's what I tell young Brio. I said, if you, Stanislavski, the famous Russian actor and teacher and the father of the method, yeah, yeah, he had a quote that said, "Love the art within you, not you within the art." I love that. "Love the love how it makes you feel the empowerment, the art within you that motivates you, but not go, oh, I want to see my name and lights, I want to buy that house. I want to, you know, that's in love with the, with something else that will never sustain. Of course. It's funny, Dave, I always, no, I always, no. I always know this about me and him is that, of course, we love knowing that something's going to be great, but I know we kill ourselves and we do it because it's like the insides scratch with in us. Like, even if no, I would still be making all the songs the same way, doing everything the same way, but because it just scratches that hip-hop. Okay, so in 47 years of doing this and working on some really, really wonderful material, both in theater and the one common denominator that I've noticed with anyone who is a director, writer, producer, is that good enough, is never good enough. It's like, it's like, oh, we're doing it again, yeah, and again, he's got to get it going. Vince Gilligan, when he was directing several episodes of Breaking Bad, he knew that their time is of the essence, so you're doing a show, you got to keep moving, and so he would literally take his forefinger and his middle finger and touch his forehead and like, what else? What else? What am I missing? What am I missing? What am I missing? What am I missing? What am I missing? So he agonized over it. It wasn't like, free-flowing, don't, you can't picture Vince Gilligan and just go, oh, I'm missing. I'm missing. I'm missing. I'm missing. Agonizing. What am I missing? What am I missing? It's got to be better. And he loves writing himself into a corner. Of course. So it is incredibly hard to get out. It's about to streak it out. So the audience goes through that experience. Yeah. So getting back to the love. Yeah. The only way you're going to go beyond, that's good enough, right? It is because you have a passion for the love. You've got to make it better. Yeah. You've got to keep slugging it in the face to make it better somehow. You feel the tension and the friction of even your performances. And you know as writers, directors, producers and actors is that there are times, yeah, there are times when you go, I'm fucking exhausted, man. Our exhaustion at the moment is really temporary. But what we're making lasts forever. And if you keep that in mind, you go, it'll push you through, it'll push you through that next level. You've got to keep pushing through because this moment of being just, yeah, is just now. But what you're making forever, and if you can remember that, it'll, it'll serve you. And if you can, if you can sum it up, yeah, I called my show Dave because I really wanted to put my name on the line and really feel like this is going to live forever. I'm going to give it my all, I'm going to put my best foot forward. I give it my all. You did, man. I give it my all in a way that I think other people are surprised by, but when they're working on it, they can't help but respect it. Yeah. And then they want to give it their all. And I think ultimately the consumer can feel it in the product if it's beat like, there are certain things that are there. Oh my God. Okay. What do I want? An Oli Pomp? Of course I do. A blackberry vanilla, raspberry. It's very sherbet. I got a taste of one of these backwards right now. Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh. This literally reminds me of when I was a kid, Hoffman's, roller coasters, amusement park. My grandmother Mimi buying me a sherbet. Okay. I got to get a few of these kids. Actually, I'm leaving these all in here, I'm saving them for myself. Love you guys. And I remember, you came to me for like a quick little episode, but I was shooting, I was so bummed. I just want you. I'm happy I can tell you personally. I remember that. I remember you telling me. Oh, this would have been so fun because sadly, I actually don't do much fun comedy. Yeah. And I wish I did. Yeah, you seem funny. Yeah. You're so funny. Yeah. We should do a comedy. What? Let's go. Let's go. It's right now. You ready? The people. Yeah, the theme song of break, like the, you like, you love that? It's odd. So, no? No, I liked it because it wasn't something that was familiar. Yeah. So, anytime that you place an audience in a little, they're on their heels, it's better, especially for that show. I used to stay and listen to it. Like, you know how you can press skip? Yeah. I never skipped. I loved it. It was like, that one and that one and sopranos, I always stayed for. What's next for you? What are you looking forward to? Like, what's up? What's up? What's up? What are you doing this time? What's up? We got about 30 seconds. I'm putting my shoulder replace. Can we have like a little. A little edge? No cartilage. That's why I have to get my shoulder replaced. It's bone against bone. No. I'm looking forward to it. Nice. I'm actually excited because I have such limited mobility with this. Like, look, this is as far as I can take my arm up my back. Okay. Oh, wow. But you never really need to reach back? Yeah. You don't need that. I can't put it on my back. Can you go like this? Okay. You can do a little of that. Does it hurt? Yeah. Yeah. Look at this. Okay. This here? Oh, don't compare. This there. That's a double joint in this. Oh, no, no. For my surgery. Oh, and this there. I don't have something. No, I had to get 41 stitches. I like. Oh, slight. Yeah. But look, I run the stuff. You're not using that thumb. I know. But it gets in the way of music. I bet it does. Yeah, because I can't stretch the way I want to. Yeah. Oh, my God. You're going to feel so much better. My friend got his hip replaced and said it changes life. Yeah. Is it all from. Is it all from your past? It's like a lot from baseball and just being a boy and now. Were you like next level baseball? No, no. No, no. No. I love the game much more than I was good at. You still watch baseball a lot? A lot. I'm a big Dodger fan. So. You like Shohei? Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's the most impressive thing that's happened in sports in any of our lifetimes. I met Shohei. I think so, yeah. I think so, yeah. Shohei was talking about that. And that's what you guys, like-- He's the greatest gift from the show. As much as I love the show, that and the money. And of course, they have a claim. I-- the final day, we were able to work the final day, and we were back in the desert. And we had to do a speech in front of the crew. Yeah. And I felt-- I was holding it together, but I was waiting to say something to him until the end. And I just couldn't do it. I just started weeping, you know, because he's just-- I'm crying now, but he's just the best. I've learned so much from him on screen and off. And I just-- yeah, I love the man. Do you love him as much or not? Yeah, you haven't said the things. No, I mean, I-- it's very clear I love him more. Which is fine. Which is fine. No, no, no, I love now. I know he loves me. And, you know, he's my son's godfather. Yes. But you haven't said a lot of honor. He's been oozing. He's been oozing. He's a newser. Yeah, you know, I am. You know, that's what they say. I'm a newser. Yeah, I ooze a lot. Yeah, I ooze a lot. But yeah, Brian, would you like to do something about Aaron? You know, what will happen? We formed this company of DOS Armbriggs, because we missed each other. Yeah, yeah. And if we had played golf, we probably wouldn't have had the company. But that's-- and it was an interesting realization for me as a man growing up in my era. And, you know, because I was born in the '50s, raised basically in the '60s and early '70s. And it was, you know, kind of rigid in what a man should do. And a man don't cry. And I was like, oh, oh, oh. And to get to a point where you feel a true love for someone else, you know, in a platonic way. But a deep, deep love and a friendship. And knowing that we're going to be friends forever. And as we love his children. And they call him a monkey man. I understand. You get it. That's what they think his name is, his monkey man. I get it. You look a monkey man. And I just-- I light up when I see them, because it's just-- you're a really terrific father, too. Thank you, Brian. And he is such a great dad and a great husband. And, you know, that's the thing. It's-- you can have it all. You can have it all. That's the thing you realize. You can have it all. You can have it all. That's a good thing to go along. You can have it all. You can have it all. You can have it all. You can have to cheer yourself up and get all. Yeah, that is a lot. So happy. [MUSIC PLAYING]