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The Breaking Bad Episode

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The Breaking Bad Episode

A heartfelt and reflective gathering brings together actors from *Breaking Bad*, celebrating the show’s legacy and personal connections forged during its creation. The conversation begins with a playful introduction of a “twin” of Jesse Pinkman, setting a tone of excitement and emotional authenticity. Attendees share intimate behind-the-scenes memories, including how they were initially terrified of character deaths—such as Jesse’s planned demise—only to have the storyline altered, which deeply affected their emotional investment. The group highlights how *Breaking Bad* became a cultural phenomenon, especially due to Netflix’s binge-watching model, which helped it gain broader recognition. They also reflect on the show’s writing excellence, particularly the pilot, and the emotional impact of key deaths like Gus and Hank. Personal stories about love, marriage, parenting, and life after the show add depth, showing how the characters and their journey continue to influence their lives. The reunion underscores the show’s lasting power, not just as entertainment, but as a source of enduring emotional connection and shared identity. The discussion seamlessly blends personal growth, professional pride, and nostalgia, revealing how the experience of being part of such a powerful series has shaped their lives beyond the screen. Through humor, vulnerability, and mutual admiration, the participants express gratitude for the journey, the relationships formed, and the lasting legacy of *Breaking Bad*.

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♪ Breaking Bad ♪ ♪ Breaking Bad ♪ ♪ Jesse and Walt became mad heads at last ♪ ♪ Jesse and Walt, Pinkman and Walt ♪ ♪ Walt's last ♪ ♪ Walter White, what the fuck? ♪ ♪ See ya next week and this week ♪ - Do you guys think that they're gonna be shocked to see a twin? - Who's the twin? - It smells so good. - I'm the twin. - Of Jesse Pinkman? - Yeah, I'm Jesse's twin. - The sister? So, yeah, so you guys feeling excited about-- - Do you feel embarrassed? - I don't feel embarrassed. No, I feel good. - You look kinda normal. - I feel like we're honoring something that deserves to be honored. - She looks like Billie Eilish. - I feel a little light-headed, just with all the heat. - I feel light-headed too. - I feel so, check, you look so, this is the best you've ever looked. - I think it's 'cause I'm a little tan. - You're so tan. - Yeah, I like this outfit. I wish I could wear this outfit socially. - My outfit's pretty chill too. Do you guys like mine? - Yeah. - I love your outfit. - It's kinda cool. - I love all of our outfits. - I know, I'm kind of-- - Well, how do you think that they, do you think that they're, sorry, what were you saying? - I don't think they're gonna like what we're doing. - You don't think they're gonna like what we're doing? - Yo! - Here's my-- - Bitch. - Yeah, let me do a Jesse Pinkman impression. - Get off me, yo! - Like, uh, Mr. White, uh, I can't. That wasn't bad, it wasn't bad. - Wasn't terrible. - I'm not gonna break bad. - I'm nervous. - I'm gonna stay good. - Speaking of staying good and being nervous, and the Breaking Bad men, and New Mexico. - Yeah. - You know how I like to spend time on Airbnb when there's nothing to do and I browse all the homes? - Yeah. - Here, Pinkman. - You guys, I sent it to you, Dave, but I don't think you checked your phone. Look at this home. I think we need to go here. It's called the Spectacular Earth Ship. - This is on Airbnb? - Yeah. - Oh, wow. - Can you stay in an Earth ship with me? - Look, I think we could go right after. - Oh my gosh. - And we could do antique shopping. - We should've done this in New Mexico with them. - I'm so nervous. - Are you? - I'm not nervous, but I'm like excited nervous. - Seeing both, I've never met either of them. Seeing both of them together is just going to feel almost like I'm-- - Iconic. - I was feeling like I'm in the show. - Hey, Chuck, how's that feel? - I don't wanna answer first. - You go first, you go first. - Love this. - Love this porch. - You go first, you go, you go. - Have you ever lived in Venice? - No. West, west LA. - Ugh. - Come on in. - Fuckin' hell, man. - Come on in. - It's not just me. - Oh my god. - Come on in. - This is one of the best shows ever made. - Brilliant. - You have such a focus. - I'm sorry, what? - Wow. - This show changed our lives. - I would've been so pissed. - Wow. - Nasty. - Salud. - Cheers. - Salud. - Salud, salud. - Do you hate this, or is this okay? - No, you're talking about how nervous we were. - You look great. - Great to see you, bro. - I'm Kristen. - Hi, Kristen. - How are you? - I actually wanna start dressing like this. - Isn't it cozy? - Yeah. - First of all, she looks cool. - All right, man. - She's like Billie Eilish. - I know, I might wear this all the time. - You represent that very well. - Yeah, you do. - I really feel I'm coming alive. - You look great. - You're stuffed. - You were stuffing. - Yeah, yeah, of course. - I'm stuffing. - You're stuffing. - It's one sock, but it's the biggest sock I have. - Well, at least it's exactly what I did on the show. - Yeah, were you guys thinking about that when you were in the '90s? Were you thinking like, man, I hope they don't get a weird shot of this. - I'm already in my underwear on national television. - He's just giving the public what they want. How many times have you been in your tight ways? - With Malcolm in the middle. - You were a lot. - I mean, I joke that my agent was aware of a nudity clause, but he thought it was that I wanted to be and I was like, so he was fired. I had to fire him right away. - Come on in. - Come on in. - Yeah, come on in. - Come on in. - You guys- - We brought you some treats. - Love this place. - I'm excited. - We brought you some treats. Thanks for having us. Great place. - Thank you. - Yeah. - Is this the treat? - Yeah, that's the treat. - This is the treat. - This is the treat. - It's actually a bomb. - I feel like it's gonna be someone's head. - Yeah. - Yeah. - So this was your first spot? - Yeah, it was my first home that I ever owned and then I met Kristen and we fell in love on COVID in this home and- - Wow. - And we really- - I looked just like that shirt. - Okay. - And he looked just like that. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And you still fell in love. - We still fell in love. - That's wild. - Yeah, you look good, too. - Oh, yeah. - You look great, too. - I look good, too. - You do look good. - Thanks, Benny. - You're like the most stylish version of what that outfit can look like. It's like, I know these are like the expensive versions of those things. You look very- - He's very fancy, this one. - You look good. - Yeah, yeah. - Fancy, sure. - You look cute. - I look good on national television. - Whoa! I guess I'm younger than I look. - Ooh, can I get a coffee? - A coffee would be- - Oh, yeah. - I'll brew it. - Do you guys- - Oh, you have some. - Yes. - Okay. - Is it brewed? - Do you guys dress yourselves in these outfits? - Sorry, I'm just noticing the giant ball sack. - Oh, yeah, that's just- - Um, nah. - Sorry. - Yeah. - That's a great thing to keep. - The crew. - Was that from your show? - Yeah, his crew. - That's what I thought. Wait a minute. - I love the show, by the way. - Wait a minute. - I love the show. - Ball sack. - Let me tell you. I love your guys' show. - Thank you. - I couldn't love a show more. It's the best show I've ever seen in my life. - Thank you. - You know, the first time I ever saw "Breaking Bad" was the season finale. Series finale. Okay, listen, listen. - Oh, man. - That's not the way to watch it. - That's not the way to- - I know. Is that the first time I ever? - Yeah. - Okay, so here's what happened. - Yeah. - At the time, I'm working on Ed Sheeran's album, okay? We're in New York, and he said, "Holy shit." The finale is- You know, with traveling, he got all mixed up. He's like, "The finale's today." He rents a hotel room, gets all the stuff we could do it. So I'm watching the last episode, and I remember being like, "Oh, this is like really good." And this was in like, what year was that? 2018? - 13. - 13. - 13 is when it ended. Okay, so then I live my life. COVID hits, okay? And I say, "I have to watch all the best shows of all time." And I look up, I say, "Best shows of all time." I had already seen a few of the shows, "Wire," "Sopranos." And there was like a battle going on for the best shows. And it was you guys, "Sopranos," "The Wire." And I said, "I gotta put this on." I put it on from the second I started it. I did not stop. - Eyes are bloodshot. - Well, 'cause it was, there was COVID. It was the exact start of COVID. And then I just watched it all over again with my wife who had never seen it. Just, and liked it more the second time. - Oh, I love that. - Come into a room, like, and be like, and I'd be like. And I'd like do all the little like things. You know, the guy who rings the bell. - You're talking about, what's his name? Salamanc? - Yeah, I do. - Hector. - Hector Salamanc. - Like, do you guys ever watch it? - I haven't seen it since it aired, no. - Oh, did you watch it every time it came out? - We did, yeah. - Like every day? - It's good to see what they did, what takes they did and putting it together. And we appreciate it, but we had to move on, you know? It's like, we got another one and another one, another one. And I would watch it again. I haven't seen it since it, 13 years ago. - Yeah, yeah. - And I would watch it again, but I'd like to watch it like what you were talking about, with someone who hasn't seen it yet. It'd be kind of fun to share that. - Does this look familiar? - Yes. - I've seen the pilot. - I've seen the pilot probably 100 times. I've read the pilot script like 100 times. - Isn't it great? - It's the best written pilot script ever. - What's so great about Vince 'cause he always, like, we had such an incredible writer's room, but then Vince always does his polish and he. - He is talking to the readers. He is talking to the people that are reading it. So he's talking to the cast. He's talking to the crew. You know, he references some of the people in the script. It's just, it's amazing. - It's so like, for trying to write and learning to write, it's like the perfect example of like how to capture all of like the cinema, like the cinema, even the descriptions are so cinematic. - Yeah, yeah. - It's a great script. - So when I read it and I was offered the role, our daughter was just, just about to enter high school. It's a very critical time, you know? And this was shooting in New Mexico. - Oh yeah. - So I gave it to my wife and I said, I want you to read this. I've just been offered it after, and she knew about it, but she hadn't read it yet. And I said, just know it shoots in New Mexico. She goes, okay. And she starts reading and I would peek in to see, 'cause I knew it was so good, you know? And she's flipping and going. And because that's, it's, you can't stop just like the show. And she went all the way through and I knew when she was getting at the end and I'm peeking around. And she finished the last page, looked at me, threw it over the bed and said, "Shit." - Really? - I love that. - Yeah. - Wow. - 'Cause she knew. - Yeah. - I had to say yes. - That you're gonna be gone for seven years. - And I had to spend six, seven months in New Mexico. - So you guys lived, you both lived there during shooting? - Lived there, yeah. I mean, it was about six months. - Wait, were you married when that happened? - No, I met her very early on. Met Lauren very early on. - Well, he went through a couple of girlfriends that I met. - Whoa. - Well, I mean, not that many. - Yeah. - Whoa, just a second. - There was, yeah, there was. - Oh, so you met. - We've been there. - You met her, you met her season two? - I met her season three. - Oh my God. - So you see, so it was before the show sort of really took off. - Yeah, you talk about, what's the deal with that? Didn't it like take three seasons to get to the level popularity that it deserved? - So what happened was, first season, we were incredibly proud of it. You know, we did seven episodes. We were cut short by two because of the writer's strike. - Damn. - Oh yeah. - But the critics loved the show. - Yeah. - But we were only getting, I think it's 700 or 800,000. - At the most, I think, yeah. - At the most. one right why isn't people like really watching this show yeah but when it really exploded was we landed three seasons on netflix just while we were shooting season four and we were actually believe it or not but we were the very first new bingeable show ever interesting wow ever which is crazy what also helped is that they had very recently just switched i don't know if you remember the red envelopes when you're sending a movie netflix and it's that stopped and it's just streaming and then that's what really helped because then people could watch and get addicted to it i remember the first time i heard of netflix my friend when i was a kid when i was i wonder when netflix came out probably when i was like 14 maybe 13. something like that i just remember i just remember my friend would get movies in the mail and then he was like we could get any movie we want and we just ship it back it was so cool and i was like what are you talking about and he was like he's like we never have to go to blockbuster again it was that cool like what do you mean it's amazing well i loved it blockbuster was an event i remember though thinking it was it was so cool option for sure i remember being really like not impressed with the business model and thinking like i don't know if this thing's going to work obviously i'm totally wrong and thinking like i like is it really that convenient to have this thing mail to me when i can just go to i wouldn't even want the pressure to have to pick it out in advance and be organized like that we used to take our daughters like you get to select one and mommy and daddy will select one okay one candy and it was like a it was like a fun event what about movie theaters talk about an even bigger institution i know like i talked to my cousins who are kids and i talk about movie theaters because they haven't had what we had growing up like they look at movie theaters as like we they're like oh movie theater like i would never those places are weird and i'm like oh yeah i'm gonna go to movie theaters and i'm like oh yeah i'm gonna go to movie theaters into looking like it's a soap opera like it hasn't been rendered like it looks like it's like not the final yes it looks totally and then truly and like the common man or woman i feel like really doesn't even notice so it's like i which is so hard here's the common man exactly yeah no i i re-watched the wire when we were when we were shooting breaking bad and i put it on my tv i'm like why does this look sick it looks like it was filmed on like a cell phone yeah and then i was able to reset the settings i'm going to taste the mess scout out yeah tell us about the inception of this yeah when did you guys start thinking yeah we've been working we've been working on this for close to a decade yeah um yeah we've been out on the market july 9th will be seven years but i just i just honestly i just love this guy so much he's truly truly my best friend in the world and yeah we just uh really hit it off with breaking bad and um i'm like this guy i always say it he's the hardest worker in the room thank you man i appreciate no he really is the hardest like he is just the best but also the most immature person you've ever the most immature person you've ever met in your life it's just such a great combo it's just an elevator picture like why we did it yes i i miss i miss them uh and three three years three years post the finale breaking bad uh he was doing a play in new york i was doing a show and we uh caught up and had sushi together um and uh he pitched me he's like do you think it's too soon to do another show or a movie or i go i think it's a little too soon and we started spitballing ideas of what we could do together at the sushi meal yeah yeah and then out of nowhere i never thought of starting a booze company yeah you know and i go what do you think about booze and he laughed at me thinking i was joking yeah no man i'm being serious what do you think about mescal and he almost did a spit take he goes the shitty spirit with the dead worm at the bottom of it yeah no man that's not how they do because he had a terrible experience with myself that was my introduction back in the day of course a plastic bottle yeah so it was like a dollar and a quarter or something it was awful what's the worm do it was like worm wet like so it's actually back in the day they they wanted to uh not have people confused with tequila and mezcal and so they just literally put a worm it was also it's like to show wow but typically it was very very shitty mescal we didn't have options back then so this has been out for over six years we're just launching our tequila yeah i got some glasses you can drink this smells like this smells like thank you smell this now smell him a little bit yeah well i do i see you just rub that like a leathery yeah not in a bad way which one which one do i get here yeah give me one of those look at that you guys are ready to cook a little yeah you want to go like are these cousins are they related tequila and mezcal tequila is mezcal just a little sip cheers cheers thank you guys it's an honor to have you here it's a true honor it was great to be here yeah i'm such a big fan of this operation is this thank you so much guys you've seen it oh i i love it delicious oh yeah i love it i had to get off social media like i don't even know what's going on in the world she doesn't she can't be in the comments i know i know about a few things thanks to cnn oh that hurt yeah that actually hurt it did it it did feel like something you have chunks in here oh it's movie magic glass it is yeah it shouldn't have hurt like yeah is everybody okay i thought that was just okay let's let's try it with this it didn't hurt a little bit wait wait i want to i want to break something okay here i got a bunch of movie magic glass are you serious swear to god yeah it did wait do it do it do it okay hey it did hurt a little i've been wanting to do this for so long yeah i actually have in a nice way in a gentle way hold on guys you're gonna break that over my head or a malicious way but i've always wanted to break a beaker over your head yeah do it can i ever since you were jesse and i chastise you will you just shut up it does hurt a little bit pay him back pay it forward brother i can't even do it it's like it's it's don't you dare it's don't you it's so wrong it's not it's so right here you want a bigger one give me one let me do it chris okay wait for it now he gets to do it to you you're so sweet make sure it's actually uh not real glass okay only one of them is real oh my god he's bleeding just a little oh my god look at what you guys see oh this is what happened i'm telling you i'm telling you remember i told you this i don't even know if we have a band-aid i'm so sorry are you guys so bad it's all right oh but yeah so as i was saying it really went sideways ollie pop time everybody oh my god which flavor you guys like what are you grabbing food blackberry vanilla oh i'll take some raspberry sugar did you know that they brought this one back they did back by popular demand why does it spelled sherbet oh my god this is the best thing i've ever smelt in my life oh my god i used to have an ice cream like a sherbet like this when i was a kid in upstate new york with my grandma and it she's dead it literally just brought me back to this buy any two cans of ollie pop in store and they'll pay you back for one any flavor any retailer go to drinkolipop.com fks oh my god this is memory lane white claw say yes speaking of saying yes benny benny this is directed towards you benny is the best thing i've ever had in my life benny benny this is directed towards you because we did have a group chat about how you were going to help my voice sound better and i think now is a really good time are you telling me we're spontaneously hanging out right now we're spontaneously hanging out and right after this we're gonna go you're gonna take me to the studio and you're gonna make my voice sound better i love this drink please drink responsibly hard salsa with flavors white claw seltzer work chicago illinois say yes whoa that was cool say yes yeah can we talk about david i mean i did eat one of the earlier i know when your arms are looking no i think these are really good these things provide strength the most strength jack you need to start eating them so your back doesn't deteriorate i did like it it's like good well i had the chocolate i had the chocolate chip cookie dough is amazing blueberry pie is amazing red velvet's amazing i just gotta eat this stuff to get stronger i have to lift weights too you might want to look you might want to do both but check the profile is so good that's 150 calories 28 grams of protein and zero sugar literally zero sugar how do you know so much about i'm a macro type of guy david is available at walmart stores nationwide and on walmart.com you can try a single bar for only 2.97 go grab one for yourself how long have you been married uh almost 13 years wow give us because we're all newlyweds give us you each give us one uh how do you do it so the best thing is to think of the five most important things you want in your partner okay yeah okay it might be well fidelity and humor and and moral center or someone a decent person yeah maybe someone you know is it is it intelligence is it well what whatever is it your physical attraction what are the five right yeah pick those five And let everything else go. Yeah. I love that. That's just because it's your, just let it go. Like, there are certain things around the house that my wife and I will never see eye to eye on. It's just like. Tell me one of them. Well, she is a very neat and together person, but she's not an organized person. So, I like to have things, when I go to my refrigerator, I like to know where things are. You know what I mean? Yeah. Me too. And it's like, I pulled out like five open jars of mayonnaise one time. And I was like, okay. There's too much mayo. That could set you off. Too much mayo. It could set you off. And the refrigerator is stuffed with five different mayos and six different this and seven, you know, it's like. And so, I said, how about. Three condiments in the drawer. Right, right, right. Yeah. You know, the whole. Yeah. And salad dressing and that stuff. And, you know, it's just hard for her. So, she goes up, she gets it, and she puts it back. That's me. It could be top shelf, could be bottom shelf, could be here, could be there. It wouldn't be hard for me and you. One thing we'd see eye to eye on in our relationship. You're telling me you guys put everything back. When you take it out, you put it exactly back where. In the exact same spot I ever put it back before. And all the labels have to be facing forward. When's your birthday? March. March. Mine too. You? March what? Seven. Eight. Oh, my God. You too. Oh, let's go. Guess what it is. Pisces. Fifteenth. Fifteenth. Yeah. Pisces. August 27th. Oh, you're from a Virgo. Me too. You're a Virgo. My mom's Virgo too. Yeah. I'm very organized. Yeah. I'm a little OCD. But I think, yeah, with me, it's just all about, well, communication. Yeah. Patience. And just understanding one another. Each of you, everyone's so different, right? So you all kind of have different sorts of points of view. But, and I always say whenever I go to a wedding, I write a note that just says, never forget the moment you realized. Wait, never forget what moment? Sorry, he's chiseling. Never forget the moment. Never forget the moment you realized. Yeah. That you, that you two. Oh, that's cool. We're a thing. We're a thing. Like, you're like, this is it. This is my partner. And you want to protect that. And so I think people get in fights. Or arguments because of, like, a miscommunication. Or someone really fucked up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, so don't, but what I, truly, like, just don't fuck up. Yeah. Like, just, like, really lean in. Protect it. Yeah. Be patient. Yep. Because you're going to have to weather the storm. Yeah. Right? Kids, right? And kids are, they're, I mean. There's always something. Fantastic. Oh, yeah. You saw that? Yeah. That's for you guys. Speaking of Hector. Yeah. Right? Wow. I mean, the production. The production of this operation is pretty incredible. So, I have a question. When you guys were making Breaking Bad, and, like, and you're, you're being, you're probably receiving all the cliffhangers and whatnot via script form. So, are you guys, like, fiending the scripts? And, like, so excited to sit down and. Waiting. Yeah. Just. You ever just, like, ugh. That? That's what happened? Honestly. No. No. There was a moment where I see Brian. He's walking out of the production office into the stage. And he sees me. And he's like. Come here. And he gives me this big hug. Oh, yeah. And I'm like, what's going on? It's just, like, this emotional hug. Yeah. And he's like, wow, though. Like, crazy. I go, what is going on? He's like, well, the, you read it, right? The latest. I'm like, no, I haven't, I haven't got it yet. He's like. Oh, shit. Oh, well. God damn it. Oh, okay. Never mind. And, because he said something like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's crazy, but what a way to go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, what is. What is he talking about? I went straight into the production office. I'm like, where's the script? He's like, it's not ready yet. I'm like, well, give me the writer's draft or something. He's like, no, that no one has it. I'm like, Brian just said he read it. I have to know what's going on. Yeah. I thought they were just kind of being cautious, being protective of my feelings. Yeah. Let me read an outline something. He's just fucking with me. Yeah. Oh, God. He made me think that I was dying. Wow, that's a great prank. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a great prank. That is such a good prank. Well, he was supposed to die. Was he? Yeah. Yeah. The character was supposed to die. Yeah, you're supposed to die in what season? Season one. Yeah, that's what I thought. But I didn't know that going into it. I read that, but I wasn't sure if it was real. You must feel proud. I mean, you just earned your way out of death to the ultimate of life, like busting through that fence, driving out. He's a perfectionist, by the way. What is this missing? I'm kind of doing it in a roundabout way. You want me to give her 30, 40 more minutes or something? It tastes great. It tastes good. Is there simple syrup? We have these things. A little simple syrup, a little. Oh, yeah, yeah, that simple syrup right there. Or agave. That's all you need. We have simple syrup. Just a little taste. That's what it needs. Just a little pucker up. It needs a pop. You guys have dreams about Breaking Bad and shooting? You miss it? Whoa. Well, you know, when it ended 13 years ago, I thought, well, that's the end of that. That's the last time I'll see these people. And then he did a movie called El Camino, which extended the story. I've seen it. I've seen the story of what happened to Jesse, which people wanted to know. Yeah. And so I was doing a play in New York at the time, and I got into a car right after my Sunday matinee, flew on a private jet to Albuquerque. Nice. They put a shroud over me getting off the plane because they didn't want anybody to know anything. They put me into an Airbnb. I couldn't leave. Oh, my gosh. No. And then the next day, I. I had that shroud open again, and I think they said. What were our names? Your name. Oh, Bert and Ernie. Bert and Ernie. That was our codenames. That was our names on the call sheet. I like that. Bert and Ernie. Bert and Ernie. And they put me in a bald cap and the whole thing. Oh, yeah. And I did a little couple days with him and then flew back to New York to continue the And then we did a little bit on Better Call Saul. Oh, yeah. Better Call Saul was like a. But when we were shooting. I mean, I was having dreams as the guy. Yeah. Like, as Jesse. Really? Yeah. Oh, my God. How did that. Did that stress you out when you were having dreams like. Yeah. Did you forget how to talk like yourself? It's better. You guys are so sweet. Your relationship, like, makes me want to cry. Yeah. It's so sweet. He normally bird feeds me my food. It is sweet. And then. I've never witnessed. I'm obviously big fans of the show. Yeah, I've just never witnessed the dynamic in person, so it's, like, taking me. I love the guy. You know, I got to tell you something. I got to tell you something. Yeah. He's about to have a pretty serious surgery. Oh. Really? Yeah. He's having a shoulder surgery. Yeah. Tommy John? Replacing. Yeah, replacing my shoulder. He used to, you know. I mean, he loves baseball. He's an incredible pitcher. Oh, wow. You know what he's giving me? What? His old shoulder. He's giving me his old shoulder. To cry on. Wait, really? I'm giving him my shoulder to cry on. Yeah, that's so good. He'll have my bones. He's going to try. I don't know if they're going to let him. No, my aunt did that. You can ask for the bones. There you go. We're asking for the bones. Literally give him his old. I'm going to put it on my mantle. What can I pour these in? We only have things that break. No, no. We have real. We have real. Can I ask a question about your wire rewatch when you were shooting Breaking Bad? Yeah, of course. Were you just like, oh, my God. What season? Like, do you remember when you started rewatching the wire? I started rewatching the wire season. The second season. The second season. Okay. Yeah. Because I was hoping that you were going to say the fourth season or something. Because you were like, oh, my God. I'm in the middle of one of these things right now. Yeah. Like, did that influence your rewatch timing or no? Maybe. To be honest, we watched the pilot together. We knew when we read the pilot, like, oh, my God. This is the greatest thing we've ever read. The pilot of Breaking Bad was the sixth or seventh pilot that I had done. But the previous ones never went to see. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was. That was the most. The most strapped I've been financially. Yeah. So I really needed. Do you need more glass? No. Okay. I really needed this pilot to work out. But also, he was living in a closet. That's where he was. Yeah, I had a studio apartment. A roommate moved in. I would sleep on the bed for a week. And then I would move to the closet for a week. You guys would change. And just swap. Yeah. And so I was struggling. And then Breaking Bad just kind of croaked off. When we watched the pilot for the first time. This was before we were picked up. We're like, oh, my God. Our jaws were on the floor. Did you think it was going to be great right away? Just the execution on all levels. And we thought, oh, they're going to make the announcement to us that we got picked up. They didn't. And then we didn't find out for like three weeks after that. It must have been frustrating to. Because, you know, two seasons go by of one of the best shows ever made. And it's not being necessarily appreciated on the level that. But he won the Emmy. Oh, you did? For the first season for seven episodes. So critically, it was being praised. But the people, the public, hadn't really caught on yet. It's interesting. But Netflix truly saved us. You know, there's all sorts of things. Oh, beautiful work. When you're making something, sometimes I don't know when a song's going to be big. Or sometimes I'm the opposite way. I think it's going to be big. It's not. Also, sometimes I'll work with someone and it takes so long for them to get big. Or it takes so long. And it'll be a thing. And I'm like, how is that? How does everyone not know that? But do you know, though, sometimes with music, do you know it's just an instant. or you're like, oh, this is. I get a feeling, yes. Benny, you can identify when something's really good, but you can't possibly say, this is going to hit. We don't know what's going to hit. Okay, back in the day, before TikTok and all that stuff, I had a really good, like, if I thought a song was going to be big, I'd say more times than not, it became big. Now, it's a little bit more difficult because. You're losing your touch. I'm losing my touch. Yeah, I'm old, definitely. No, and it's tough because there's so many other factors now because in a cool way, people are. Thank you. Oh, yeah, let's taste this. I have to. Salud. Cheers. Salud. Salud, salud, salud. Wow, this is great. To breaking glass. Breaking glass. Oh, that's the next one. You made that. No, no, no, I'll hold off. That's unbelievable. You go, I'll do this. Couldn't be a better drink. That's unbelievable. Were you even good at making drinks like this before this venture? Not really. This is so good. Aaron and I are very used to, being in a position of not knowing. As an actor, you go into something and I don't know who this character is or what I'm going to do with it. So we went into this very comfortable with not knowing and you learn. You just start absorbing exactly how it's made and then behind the bar, it's like watching bartenders who really know what they're doing. Then you kind of emulate that. So this was just kind of a. This is the best margarita I've ever had in my life. I agree, it's so good. I'm not saying this because I don't really. If I drink anything other than white wine, this is so good. I really believe this. You first said it was the best margarita you've ever had. Now you're saying it's top three. I want it to be real. I'm always. I don't lie. You know what? That's just enough of your shit. Do you guys want to sit on the couch? Sure. Oh God, wait till you taste this. You want to do a little caviar bomb? Do I snort this? Whatever, it's up to you. I want to see you snort it. I haven't eaten anything. I have huge textural phobias. I've just tried a grape for the first time this year. A grape? I want to hang out with you guys all the time. All we do is drink tequila and eat caviar. I hope you guys don't think you're leaving. You guys can stay all day. I don't want to leave. We're not leaving. We're going to re-watch Breaking Bad. It has good protein, right? Yeah, it has good protein. It will give you more protein. This is a lot of. I'm going big boy. Do you like caviar? Hold on. I am so proud of you. Me too. Thank you. It's a big deal. You know why I can. I'm so proud of you. I was worried. I was worried. I would really taste the individuality of the balls. Right. Which would really unnerve me. No, not like your show where you really taste the individuality. Would you guys say the two of you are. Is this peak life for you right now? Do you feel like you've kind of done the things you want to do and now you're having. You get to do stuff like this and you get to get an elbow or shoulder surgery. Yeah, it's all just such a blessing. I'm starting to take it. You get a little different tact. Yeah. I'm starting to degrade. No, no. You look great, by the way. Oh, gosh. You really do. Doesn't he? No, but you know, I've been 37 years and my wife, Robin, has been my champion through, you know, all these years. I've been an actor for 47 years. Wow. I mean, even on a bigger scale than Breaking Bad, like, wouldn't you say your big break in your acting. I mean, Malcolm in the Middle was probably the big thing. Yeah, but then. Yeah, but even that, you were like. How old were you when Malcolm in the Middle started? 41. Yes. And you weren't even supposed to be. Right. Was that supposed to be as big of a role in that show at the beginning? Yeah, well, you know, I mean, to have a career, you need. You have to be talented. You have to have perseverance and patience, but you also need a healthy dose of luck. Yeah. He was going to be cut from our show, but for the strike, he. Vince Gilligan didn't get that far in the show, and he wasn't killed in the first season. Yes. So cool, right? No, honestly, when we shot the pilot, and Vince sold the idea of the arc of the show, the arc of the first season was Jesse Pinkman introduces Walt to the drug world, and by towards the end of the. Not even the finale. It's like the. The episode before the finale, Pinkman dies, and then Walt is then led to go out for revenge into the second season and beyond. That's good writing. I wish it would have happened that way. When we shot the pilot, and we got picked up, Vince told me, while we were shooting the first season, towards the end of it, he pulled me over during lunch, and he's like, I want to tell you something. He's having lunch, with all the writers. I want you to start making the lunch for all the people. Because you're about to die. Because you're about to die on the show. No, he said, he's like, I want you to know, the original plan was to kill you off at the end of the season. And we still had like two more episodes to shoot. And my heart just starts pounding through my chest. I'm like, well, what do you mean? When am I going to die? He's like, no, no, no, no. You're not going to die. When we shot the pilot, and we saw what you and Brian were doing together, we just loved that dynamic so much. So when they got picked up, the first meeting in the writer's room, they decided to change the whole dynamic. That's amazing. We're no longer going to have him die. Dude, your life could have been so different. I would have been so pissed. You still probably have. I would have been so sad. Like, I would have been so sad, heartbroken. Yeah, it would break everyone's heart. You probably had the fear, you're like, am I disposed of it? And then he messes with me that I'm going to die. Then he started, he started, it was like the domino that fell. Yeah. And then everybody sort of like started to get in on it. You know, it's like a producer came up to me. They're like, hey, you're going to need to stay afterwards to get your, like the measurements. Of the coffin. Of your measurements for what? They're like, measurements for the coffin. For the coffin. I was like, what coffin? And they're like, oh my God, right, you haven't read that. You know what? Forget it. I'll let Vince talk to you about it. That sucks. What are they doing? It's all his fault. And even, I mean, to me, Stringer Bell dying in The Wire, it's like a, it's a chip to use as a series. If it's like, you have probably one time where you can really kill a beloved character. And when Stringer Bell died in The Wire, boy, was my world absolutely rocked. And the way he died. Yes. Oh God. The way he died. You know who was a chip that died in a way, like somebody has to die at some point. In a show like Breaking Bad or The Wire. Yeah. And I thought the, a death that rocked me in Breaking Bad was Gus. Yeah. Like, I mean, obviously in general his character, but the way in which his face fell off. Oh yeah. It was just. Oh yeah. I have that head. Great, oh my God. You do? Great use of a death in my opinion. Yeah. It's the way Gus went out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's, that's a good point. That's because, because you shouldn't kill off a character without great value. Yeah. You have to, you have to, you have to be careful of how you do that. You know, Gus was the coolest death. Oh. But, but Hank was the one that gutted me the most. Oh my God. Wait, when did you guys get married? August. We all got, we got. Newlyweds. We got. Amazing. Enjoy it. Yeah. Soak it up. We got married one month apart. Yeah. Oh great. Oh really? Yeah, back to back. Yeah. Was that a plan or was it like. No, ours honestly is, ours was the only time it could fit in our schedules that we, or we'd have to wait another year and we were like, oh, let's just do it then. And he, and he was on a deadline. He had, I gave him a. Oh yeah, she gave him an ultimatum. I gave him an ultimatum. My wife did too. Your wife gave an ultimatum? It was very subtle, but she was. I'll shoot you. We were in our thirties. Yeah. We were in our thirties already and she, she's like, you know, anyone valuable with self, you know. Yes, of course. It's like self-awareness. It's like, no, I'm not going to wait forever. You should have given up the pot. I respect. That's right. I could not respect an ultimatum more. In fact, it's crazy that we even live in a world where like, the women got to just wait until the men decide if they're worthy of that. How did you guys meet? A writer of my show, a wonderful woman named Vanessa. Okay. Who's a mutual friend and one night, she was bowling with Vanessa and Vanessa told, told me, because I was always saying, Vanessa, you got to know somebody. Like, set me up with, I was like a hopeless romantic, dating, just waiting to, I really was like being patient. And then she was like, oh my God, my friend Kristen, I'm bowling with her and I think she might be your wife. And it was like 11 p.m. already. I went down at 11. It was like. Oh, you went there? Yeah. Yeah. I took an Uber. I didn't drive myself. It's really bold to say, I think she might be your wife. Proactive. Wow. I know. The crazy thing is, 2019, I'm shooting a video with Selena. Oh yeah. I'm dating someone else. Yeah. My mom's on the video shoot and she says, she's just sitting there. She's like, hon, she's like, you should marry Selena. And I was like, what? And she was like, you should be dating someone like Selena. And there was like two times in my life where I like left a specific session or video with her where I was like, wow, she's so cool. She's like really cool. Because we were friendly and we were friends, but we weren't like best friends. And every time I like hung out with her for any, like extended period of time, I'd be like, oh my God, she's so cool. I actually, an ex-girlfriend of mine from way before that, like five years before that, I was texting with her one time and she said like, you know, it's so great you guys got married. I remember you talking so positively about Selena, even when we were together, just as like a friendly thing. No, not as like, not as a, yeah. So your mom planted the seed. My mom planted the seed and she was like, you should really, and I was like, mom, I'm not, she was like, I really want you to be with, she's like, she's got her head on her shoulders. - Mom, I have a girlfriend. - Yeah, I did, it was crazy. And I was like, she's so, she was like, She's so sweet. You know, she's this and that. She's such a sweetheart. Everyone says you always meet your best, or you always marry your best friend. Like, that's when it works. And it was like, she's my fucking best friend. And it's like, look at this. Look at you two newlyweds, so cute. We spend a lot of time together. He's a little bit afraid when we have kids. He's like, I know how you're going to act. Well, unfortunately, the reality is. But that's normal, and that's good. What's the reality? The fear is normal. I have a certain level, I always have, a degree of incompetence. Like, I'm incredibly smart in certain ways and incredibly incompetent in other ways. Yeah. And I just have. Should I give the example of driving today? He doesn't know. Neither one of. The speed limit? She goes, I'm driving like 38 miles an hour. No, no. He's driving 23 miles an hour. There's a car right in front of him. But there's an open lane. Open lane. Okay. She goes, you know, the speed limit's 40 miles an hour. If it's 45, I say, okay, there's a car right in front. No, no, you go, okay, am I going too fast? Yes, I'm not going too fast. And I thought, well, wouldn't he look at the speed? It's right in front of his face. I did, I looked at it. Previous, before that, I was cruising at about 40. I just didn't. I said, are you asking? I said, I don't understand. Like, to me, my brain was like, if someone says to me, do you know the speed limit's 45? I would instantly look at the speedometer in front of me and see that I'm going 27. Neither one of them are prepared to have children. Not prepared. So I think that there's a level of incompetence to me that is just innate in me. That I, on the one hand, I want to be like, I will work on that, and I should work on that, and I will work on that. But I think that there is something in me that is really an uphill battle. But I will be better than I would be if I did nothing. But I still will never be the great version of that competent, like, at all times. There are certain things that I'm going to do that's better than any father could ever do. But there are other things that I'm going to do. I will say, the moment you have a child, there's something that has been laid dormant inside of you that just comes out of you. It's just like natural. Natural instincts. Granted, yeah, there are some people that clearly should not be parents. Just like the abusive, mean people. But you are just such a ray of light. Yeah, thank you. You know, you have such great energy. Cheers to that. Thank you. He loves our dog. You guys will make sure of all your. You guys will make up for all your shortcomings. With love. With love. I have a lot of love to give, for sure. I can tell that about you. Thank you. You know, you feel like. You're like, I can take care of myself. You get married, you have a partner, and you go, yeah, I can expand that to feeling responsible for each other. Yeah. And then you expand it to a child. And for the first time in my life, I had fear. Yeah. Like, what, what, how can I protect this little being? And you start, you know, you have some nightmares sometimes. Oh, God. Yeah. So you start wearing your heart on the outside when you have a child. Yeah. And you will forever be parenting. Our daughter's 33 years old. Crazy. We don't stop parenting. Yeah. You just do it differently. Yeah. Were you scared when you first had a kid? Kind of, but also excited. Yeah. Terribly excited. But it's good to be scared. Yeah. Yeah. I was terrified. It creates caution. But it's just the greatest thing in the world. It is. Probably good to be actors and be scared because you get another feeling of, like, human emotion that you can pull from. Well, we're kind of used to that. And again, going back into the we don't know anything kind of thing. Yeah. We go into something we're not really sure. Well, that's parenting again. We're like, oh, it's like what we do in acting. Do you not feel that? My mom says, you know, my mom told me this. My mom said, nobody knows anything. She said, first of all, people now know way too much. She's like, back in the day, there was nothing. There was no app. There was no anything. You're just like, oh, fuck. What does this mean? And she was like, and you figured it out. My mom said, idiots figure it out. It's true. I love your mom. Yeah. She's like, there's people who. It's true. It's true. You'll figure it out. KFC box feast. Chuck, I can't let you have one more bite because I got to say something. Well, hurry up. 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You should be going to caviar and tequila. I will. I will. I think I'm truly not addicted. I love that you keep diving in. I love it. I'm proud of all of you. Okay, wait. I want to ask my one question. Okay, yeah, go. Go ahead. I haven't even asked yet. Okay. If a man came in here with a gun. No, that's my second question. Who would you protect from? I don't know. I had to suck your dick. No. That's almost what I was going to ask. No. So, my question was, you actually shaved your head for the show, right? Yeah. Did you, like, have to talk? Were you so scared? Have you ever seen your head? Have you ever seen your head with, like, did you, what if you had, like, moles or shit come? You didn't give a fuck? That was your burning question? Or did your wife? I actually think it's a good question. Was your wife like, are you fucking nuts? No, no, no. I mean, we're actors. I'm looking forward to looking different, feeling different. Yeah. In between jobs, I usually grow my hair, grow facial hair. I'm working on the studio right now, so I keep it clean. Great show. It's a fun show. Great show. But to shave my head, it saved me time. It would have saved, I would have had this come in earlier in the day to put on the bald cap and to put it down and to do the pan. So they gave you the option. But also, when you have a bald cap on, you are aware of it. Oh, yeah. And you're aware of it every moment. And also, over 13, 14 hours, it gets hot. Yeah. Because you're, you know, the heat stays in, and it's like, no. Dave said his dream, we always talk about, our dream would be at the height of everything, we, on this show, shave our full, from here all the way to here, eyebrows and everything, just whole thing shaved. Nothing else matters. Great idea. When you feel like, you know what? That's a great idea. Right now, I don't know. Can I ask a question about theater? Yeah. Did, when you, did you do theater before, like, when you first started, you were doing theater? Yeah. Okay. Because I was going to say. That's it? That's the end of your question. Have you seen him on stage? No. No, but I can, I can tell you'd be incredible. Because you have such a focus. Like, you have such a good, like. I'm sorry, what? But my thing, my question really was, with the, with TV, do you like theater more than you like acting on TV? Is really my question. It's, it's more. Immediate, immediately rewarding. Yeah. It's like doing stand-up, doing, you know, you're right there, you can feel the audience. It's a high. You see, it's a high, it's a, yeah, you're getting an, an ebb and flow relationship with the audience. Your responsibility is to guide them to a story. Yeah. And if you don't do it, it's not their fault, it's your fault. Yeah. It's like, so you can feel, sometimes they're quiet, and, but they're really attentive. Sometimes they're boisterous and laughing at everything. Yeah. And it's like, oh, that's maybe a bit too much, but, but who knows? I guess TV and film, you have to just go in and out, and in and out, and like, snap in and out, but theater, it's. That's, that's exactly how I explain it, too. In, in television and film, we're in the bits and pieces business. Yes. Little bit, little piece, little bit, little piece. Yeah. In theater, it's a beginning, middle, and end, every performance. So much more revealing. I love bits and pieces. It's revealing, but that's why it's more, it's tougher. It's harder for an actor. It's harder. It's harder. Oh, theater, oh my God, it's one take? Oh my God. But it's so rewarding. I'm saying, yeah, but every, you know, it's like, like, occasionally, you'll have a part on your show where, oh, this is the emotional part, I, oh, God, but if you pick a good play, you have that every performance. It's a gut punch, and you should, you know, why do the play it? So I finished this play on my birthday, March 7th, on my 70th birthday. The play's over. Three days later, I fly to Italy to do two episodes. I'm in Venice, and I'm playing the voice of the studio in Venice. Now I'm playing this really crazed, wacky character who's in comedy, so the difference from Sublime to the Ridiculous, you know, it was, it was, it was such a relief. It was like going on vacation. Yeah, yeah. That's fun. I mean, he had, he had to go through such turmoil in this play. Yeah. And how many, how many shows did you do? 115. I mean, I cannot believe that. And what you had to put your body through. Do you guys feel like every actor has like a little bit of method acting? It depends on your definition of method, you know, method acting. I mean, my process is, I mean, the first two years, for example, of Breaking Bad, I tried to just stay, just stay in it, because I was nervous to lose it, you know? And he, he came up to me towards the end of the second season, I remember we were washing off our makeup, and he came up to me, he's like, "It's okay to just wash off your makeup and just be yourself." You know, you don't have to keep doing this and everything. Yeah. You were so scared to lose it. He was looking out for me. Yeah. He saw the shit I was putting myself through. Yeah. Sustained. Yeah. And it was really, really, really hard on me. But I remember going home, and I, I, I couldn't get that out of my mind, like, I think, you know, he's right, he's right. And so, I, so moving on, I just tried to force myself to believe that these circumstances are just truly happening to me as that guy. Yeah. Everyone has different, a different process. So, here's a question I have, like, for example, the scene where you're on the, in the crawl space and the episode ends with you laughing. Do you know that you have the ability physically to do that type of laugh and you practice and you know that you have that in you, or do you just kind of leave it up to letting your emotions get taken over by the character in that moment, whatever happens, happens? And was, sorry, just to add to that, was that, I, I can't remember, was that laugh, was it scripted? That's a, yes, great, thank you for that. Yeah. Thank you. So, I, I, knowing I was going to do that, I started thinking, what do I find absurd that, so, not necessarily funny, but just, how the fuck did this happen kind of thing that you can, like, ease into, and, and I don't know what I was thinking of that's many years ago. So, you find something that you're like, oh, that, that was, that was a weird time, yeah, and you kind of have that as you're reading through the script, and you, you file it away, almost like you put a little post-it note in the back of your brain, and if you, when you're doing the scene, if it comes out, it comes out, if it doesn't, it doesn't, you find something else. How interesting. Like, for me, and I'm not a good example of what an actor is, I feel like I can really act like myself, but these inhabiting, these other people, I would struggle with more or less, because I feel like I have trouble getting out of my own head, and I would always be aware that I am me, and I am playing this character, et cetera. Right. And so, I would give my best bet to, if I had to do that scene, I would have literally practiced, like, at least evaluated, what would I do if I laughed really hard, and like, what does that sound like? Do I even like the way that feels? Can I replicate? Can I do that over and over? I would have, like, gamed it all out. Right, right, right. It's, it's probably a dangerous thing for an actor to think along those terms, because you, what you're describing is a result, is you're looking for, how would it actually sound -- That's the director in there. -- at the end of it. Yes. For an actor, you want, you want to leave it open. You don't want to come to a, a result, because it might be the wrong one. Yes. On the day, when you're doing something, you're going, "Oh, God." And also, you don't know what the other performer is gonna be throwing your way. Yeah, yeah. And you know the, the, the dialogue, the script, but just how they are emoting everything is gonna change everything. It's like, it's like when you freestyle. What about it? It's like, it's like you never know what's gonna, and that's when you always get the best stuff. But it's so -- When you're, like, not thinking. Yeah, I guess. Like, when you go in thinking about, like, how you have to attack the verse, it's like, you always say, like, like, you'll say, like, "Oh, my God." Just like, do anything random, 'cause that's when you're gonna get the best shit. Are you, are you, are you like, "I'm Walter White," or are you like, "I'm Bryan Cranston playing Walter White," or are you not, like, does that, those thoughts don't even come into your head? No, you're thinking, you're thinking as the character. You're thinking, "I'm Walter White." Yeah, so that whatever he would do that wasn't necessarily scripted or something, a behavior or something, Walter would have a specific reaction to, Bryan would react differently. Mm-hmm. So you stay in the character. How do you do that? You take classes? It's a gym. You go to the gym. You know, your body goes, "Oh, I know what we're doing here. I'm used to, I know what this exercise is. I know what I'm supposed to do." And so work for us is like going to the gym. Yeah. We're familiar with it. And if, but I need to stress, and I tell young actors this all the time, any kind of instinct doesn't mean you can't prepare. You need to work on it. Yeah. It's all about the preparation. I don't think I've ever really worked with a genius who just go, "Ah, bah, bah, bah," and they're brilliant. Yeah. No. It's a lot of hard work. Yeah. Would you guys be like, "Hey, let's rehearse this and like find the rhythm?" Not necessarily. I mean, we would run. No, no, no. When we're on the day. Yeah, on the day. It's online. Oh, wow. From the pilot to the finale, we shared a trailer, like a double banger. Yeah. You know, like a trailer split in half. You had one side, I had the other. Yeah. We had lines, you know, outside of the trailer or in the hair and makeup trailer. Was there a lot of improv in Breaking Bad or none? No. No. No, it was such a beautifully written story that you don't want to touch it. Thank God you guys didn't fuck that up. We got to talk about the frame TV. I would love to. Yeah. It's Samsung's item. It's beautiful. It like draws your eyes to it where before you'd be like, "Oh, there's a black box." Now you're like, "Oh my gosh, you have this art." And then I love saying to people, "That's a TV." I know. I love that feeling. It's not just like basic art. This is an art you can find anywhere. It's got so much like exclusive curation and you can access it on the Samsung art store and it gives back to the artist. Oh, that's cool. And for me, for me, like I collect art and I see this. Literally, I'm just as proud of my frame TV as I am of a framed piece of art I have. Go to Samsung and check out the frame TV. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Benny, what's something that therapy has taught you about yourself? I really think therapy gave me like a little like mental toolbox of how I can understand myself. panic attack, as I'm going through those moments where I really don't know, I feel like my life is ending and there's no other way I can get around it. And then I have this little toolbox that's like, calm down, take a step back, assess the situation. Everything happens within the time that it's supposed to. And I just have all these little like voices now in the back of my head that tell me the right thing of what to do in each moment. I love that. If you want to start your therapy journey today, sign up and get 10% off at betterhelp.com slash FKS. That's betterhelp.com slash FKS. You know, two things. One, anytime I see you, you're either with your wife and kids. And it's such a beautiful thing. Like he's like, you really do walk the walk and talk the talk. Like anytime I see him, he's like, you're like, so I think I've only seen you one time when you weren't either with your wife or kids or both. Or pining to be. Yeah. Yeah. And it's very cool that you've been able to do all this stuff and it's like, and still do that. And it's something I really aspire to do. And you're like, work-life balance from afar seems great. Two, I don't even know if you guys know this. How stoked are you? His daughter is an amazing actor and she's on one of the biggest shows. And it's like, yeah, what does that feel like? So amazing, dude. Better than Heisenberg? Here's the, yeah, yes. Because the, the, as, as a parent, as a parent, I will tell you, as you prepare, as you prepare the, the thing you want more than anything, the thing you dream about and say prayers about, please let my children find happiness and joy. I don't care what it is, what occupation they end up or who their partner is, please let it be joyful and happy. That's all you want. Yeah. You know, that just to, and so Taylor being raised in this business, and she knew my parents were actors and my grandfather was an actor in Vaudeville. So she's fourth generation right there. And she knows, and she knows the, the, the ups and downs and the ins and outs. And it's like, okay, this is a, this is a, she's been around it. It's a family business, very common. And, but the big, the biggest blessing for Robin and I are that she's in it for the right reasons. She loves it. She's in love with it. She's in love with the art and that will sustain. And that's what I tell young people. I said, if you, Stanislavski, the famous Russian actor and, and teacher and the, the father of the method, he had a quote that said, love the art within you, not you within the art. So love the, love how it makes you feel the empowerment, the art within you, that motivates you, but not go, oh, I want to see my name in the lights. I want to buy that house. I want to, you know, that's, that's, that's in love with the, with something else that will never sustain. Of course. It's funny, Dave. I always, I always, no, I always know. I always know this about me and him is that we're, of course we love knowing that something's going to be great, but I know we kill ourselves when we do it because it's like the itch we have to scratch within us. Like, even if no one, I would still be making all the songs the same way, doing everything the same way, but because it just scratched that itch that I love. And you both are so good. Okay. So in 47 years of doing this and working on some really, really wonderful material, both in theater and the one common denominator that I've noticed with anyone who is a director, writer, producer, is that good enough is never good enough. It's like, it's like, oh, we're doing it again and again and again. Vince Gilligan, when he's, when he was directing several episodes of Breaking Bad, he knew that their time is of the essence. So you're doing a show, you got to keep moving. And so he would literally take his forefinger and his middle finger and touch his forehead and like, what else? What else? What, what am I missing? What am I doing? So he agonized over it. It wasn't like free flowing. Don't, you can't picture Vince Gilligan just, oh, no. That makes me feel good. Done. That makes me feel good that he agonized over it. No, I'm like, I'm a fan of acing, acing, acing, agonizing. What am I missing? What am I, it's gotta be better. It's gotta be better. And he loves riding himself into a corner. Of course. So it is incredibly hard to get out. So the audience goes through that experience. So getting back to the love, the only way you're going to go beyond, that's good enough, right? Is because you have a passion for it. Of course. You've got to make it better. You've got to keep slugging it in the face to make it better somehow. You like feel the tension and the friction of even your performances. And you know, as writers, directors, producers, and actors, is that there are times, yeah, there are times when you go, I'm fucking exhausted, man. Our exhaustion at the moment is really temporary. But what we're making lasts forever. And if you keep that, if you keep that in mind, you go, it'll push you through. It'll push you through to that next level. You got to keep pushing through because this moment of being just, uh, is, is just now, but what you're making forever. And if you can remember that it'll, it'll serve you. And if you can, if you can sum it up. One of the reasons I called my show Dave, because I really wanted to put my name on the line and really feel like this is going to live forever. I'm going to give it my all. I'm going to put my best foot forward. I give it my all. I give it my all in a way that I think other people are surprised by, but when they're working on it, they can't help but respect it. And then they want to give it their all. And I think ultimately the consumer can feel it in the product. If it's beat, like there are certain things that are, Oh my God. Okay. What do I want? An lollipop? Of course I do a blackberry, vanilla, raspberry, raspberry sherbet. I got to taste one of these bad boys right now. Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh, this literally reminds me of when I was a kid, Hoffman's roller coasters, amusement park, my grandmother, Mimi buying me a sherbet. Okay. I got to get a few of these guys. Actually I'm leaving these all in here. I'm saving them for myself. Love you guys. And I remember you, you came to me for like a quick little episode, but I was shooting. I was so bummed. I just want you, I'm happy. I can tell you personally. I remember that. Oh, this would have been so fun. Um, because sadly I actually don't do much fun comedy, you know? And I wish I did. Yeah. You seem funny. You're so funny. We should do a comedy. Let's go. Let's go. It's right now. Guys. Yeah. Ready? The people. Hey, the theme song of break, like the song. You like, you love that. It's odd. So no, no, I, I, I liked it because, because it wasn't something that was familiar. Yeah. So anytime that you place an audience in a little, they're on their heels, it's better, especially for that show. I used to stay and listen to it. Like, you know, like, you know how you can press skip. Yeah. I never skipped. Never skipped. I loved it. Boom. Boom. That one, that one and Sopranos. I always stayed for. What are you, what's next for you? What are you looking forward to? Like what, what's up? What's up? What's up? What are you doing this summer? What's up? I'm getting, we got about 30 seconds. I'm getting my shoulder replaced. Can we have a, can we have like a little cartilage, something, no cartilage. That's why I have to get my shoulder replaced. It's bone against bone. No, I'm looking forward to it. Nice. I'm actually excited because I have such limited mobility with this. Really? Like, look, this is as far as I can go. Oh, my arm up my back. Okay. Oh, wow. But you never really need to reach back. Yeah, you don't need that. I can't put on a jacket. Can you go like this? Okay. You can do a little. Does it hurt? Like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Look at this. Okay. This here. Oh, don't compare. This there. That's just double jointedness. No, no, no. But is this from you? You can't, you can't put it over. I had a thing. Carpal tunnel or something? No, I had a, I had to get 41 stitches. I like, oh, sliced it. Yeah. Yeah. But like, look, I've ruined the stuff. You're not using that thumb. I know, but it does, it gets in the way of music. I'll bet it does. Yeah, because I can't stretch like the way I want to. But oh, my God, you're going to feel so much better. My friend got his hip replaced and said it changes life. Yeah. Is it all from you? Like, is it all from your past? It's like a lot from baseball and just being a boy and now. Were you like next level baseball? No, more than I was good at it. Do you still watch baseball a lot? A lot. I'm a big Dodger fan. You like Shohei? Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's the most impressive thing that's happened in sports in any of our lifetimes. I met him. I think so, yeah. Are people talking about that? Yes, they are. He's the best. They are, but it's a little bit, it's not really, it's not like LeBron-ized because it's baseball and because he's not American, but what he's doing. Those are good pants. I'd wear those every day, too. I'll get you a pair. Here. Well, thank you for dressing up, first of all. That was very kind. We were so nervous to do it. Are you guys sick of it? No. No, it's a blessing. This show changed our lives, and it also introduced us to each other. That's the best. he's the greatest gift from the show as much as i love the show i think that and the money and of course the claim i i um the final day we were able to work the final day and we were back in the desert and we had to do a speech in front of the crew yeah and i felt i was holding it together but i was waiting to say something to him until the end and i just couldn't do it i just started weeping you know because he's just i'm crying now he's just he's just he's just the best i've learned so much from him on screen and off and i just yeah i love the man do you love him as much or not yeah you haven't said things no i mean i it's very clear i love him more which is fine which is fine no no i know he loves me and you know my you know he's my son's godfather you haven't said a lot of your daughter he's been he's an user yeah you know i am you know that's what they say i'm an user yeah i use a lot yeah but yeah brian would you like what a blessing aaron you know we we formed this company of because we missed each other yeah yeah and if we had played golf we probably wouldn't have had the company but that that's and it was an interesting um realization for me as a as a man growing up in my era and you know because i was born in the 50s raised basically in the 60s and early 70s and it was you know kind of rigid and what a man should do and a man don't men don't cry and and um to to get to a point where you feel a true love for someone else you know in a platonic way but a deep deep love and a friendship and knowing that we're going to be friends forever yeah and and i love his children and i love they call him monkey man i understand i get it that's what they think his name is his monkey man i get it you look like a monkey man uh and i just you know i just i light up when i when i see them because it's just uh you're you're a really terrific father too thank you bro and he is is such he is such a great dad and a great husband and you know that's the thing it's you can have it all yeah you can have it all thing you realize you can have it all you can have it that's a good thing to go you can have it all you can have it all you can have to cheers to having it all yeah there's lots of love

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The conversation centers around the reunion of actors from *Breaking Bad*, including a surprise introduction of a "twin" of Jesse Pinkman, sparking excitement and emotional connection.
  2. Attendees share personal stories of how they bonded during filming, including a memorable moment when a writer teased a character’s death, causing genuine fear and emotional reactions.
  3. The discussion reflects on the legacy of *Breaking Bad*, the impact of streaming platforms like Netflix, and the deep personal and professional bonds formed through the show’s success.

Summary:

A heartfelt and reflective gathering brings together actors from *Breaking Bad*, celebrating the show’s legacy and personal connections forged during its creation. The conversation begins with a playful introduction of a “twin” of Jesse Pinkman, setting a tone of excitement and emotional authenticity. Attendees share intimate behind-the-scenes memories, including how they were initially terrified of character deaths—such as Jesse’s planned demise—only to have the storyline altered, which deeply affected their emotional investment.

The group highlights how *Breaking Bad* became a cultural phenomenon, especially due to Netflix’s binge-watching model, which helped it gain broader recognition. They also reflect on the show’s writing excellence, particularly the pilot, and the emotional impact of key deaths like Gus and Hank. Personal stories about love, marriage, parenting, and life after the show add depth, showing how the characters and their journey continue to influence their lives.

The reunion underscores the show’s lasting power, not just as entertainment, but as a source of enduring emotional connection and shared identity. The discussion seamlessly blends personal growth, professional pride, and nostalgia, revealing how the experience of being part of such a powerful series has shaped their lives beyond the screen. Through humor, vulnerability, and mutual admiration, the participants express gratitude for the journey, the relationships formed, and the lasting legacy of *Breaking Bad*.

FAQs

Yes, one actor was deeply affected when he learned his character was originally supposed to die, which caused emotional shock and fear during filming.

The actor was told his character was supposed to die at the end of the first season, which caused panic and heart-pounding reactions, especially since it was later changed.

Yes, one actor shaved his head for the show, and while it was initially a time-saving choice, he noted it made him aware of his appearance throughout long filming days.

The actors were shocked and heartbroken by the original plan, as it would have dramatically changed the show's emotional arc and character development.

The actors viewed social media as a drug-like influence, saying it's addictive and harmful, and emphasized the need for personal boundaries and digital detox.

They were immediately struck by the pilot, calling it one of the greatest scripts they had ever read and feeling a deep connection to the story and characters.

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