The Blake Griffin Episode

♪ B-B-B-Blake, yeah ♪ ♪ B-B-B-B-B-B-Blake, G-R-I-F-F-I-N ♪ ♪ Killed her talkin' about Lake Griffin, D-Man, and the M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M ♪ See you this week! Lucas, guys. Chuck, is this our first baller? Yeah. Are you intimidated? No. I mean, this is me at home. This is your dream. This is my dream. This man. Hi, guys! Wow! Ball in hand! We ready? That was just outside. Okay, now go guard. Guard him, guard him, guard him! Go! I thought we were playing a game. That was really good defense. Yeah, yeah, she's got a lot of guard. That's great. What's up? How are you? She's got great. Thanks for having me. Sorry, this is what. Oh, group talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me get down a little bit. Oh, yeah. Blake Griffin's one of the best dunkers in the history of basketball. I really needed this. Doing things like this. I've been doing this for a long time. Were you ever scared to take the shot? I loved it. Ah! Ah! Can't everybody just chill the fuck out for a second? Get up. Come this way. He'll, like, walk right by you. He'll go, boom. Pussy can't guard you. We're in the 305, baby. Dude, you're so fun. Is this my rack? I just picked it up from outside. Yeah, it was just sitting outside organically. This was not here for you. No, he travels with the ball. It's dirty, though. Yeah, sorry. No, you're not. I saw it, and I was like, oh, that'll be a fun. That is a fun gag. It was fun. It was a fun gag. It'll be a. I'm like the perfect. That's cute. I'm like the perfect guy, height-wise, to showcase how tall you are. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I'm like the perfect guy. How tall are you? I don't know. 5'4". No, no, no. I think I'm 5'6". Can you touch the ceiling, just standing? Yeah, well, we got the. Wow. Yeah, can you get that dust? We've got some dust. We've got to get that off. Like, do you want some water or anything, or. Um. Yeah, water would be great. Olipop? Water? Water's great. So, you're conscious, like, any time you're walking, you have to be like. Doorways, yeah. You know, I've never had to think of anything. Never. Never. There's no light. There's never any. What about, like, you know, you go to, like, a castle in Europe? Nothing. No, I'm gnome-like. I'm gnome-like. I can go anywhere. Before you came, Benny was asking, he said, do you think Blake has been the best player of his friends since he was, like, by age 5, 8? Did everyone. No, no. That's not what I said. Okay. I said this. I said, were you. Were you born exceptional, or were you, like, did it, like. Like, when you were 5, were you just like every other kid shooting, and they were like, oh, and then, like, did you get exceptional? Was there, like, one year where, like, you became exceptional? I don't know. Like, so, my dad is a basketball coach, high school basketball coach, so, like, I've just been. I have an older brother who played. Like, I just. I've had a ball in my hand since I could, like. Before I could walk, you know? And then, like, started dribbling super young. So, like, I think maybe, like, a little bit, like, advanced, but not, like, you wouldn't walk into a gym and be like, oh, my God, that kid's not like that. At what age was it then? I think, like, maybe when I was young, like. 10. I have a 12-year-old son right now, and he's, like, I think we're kind of, like, comparable. You go watch him play, and he's, like, you're like, oh, he's good, but you're not, like. It's hard. Like, when you're, like, 12, like, there's these kids. You have a 12-year-old son? Yeah, 12-year-old son. You look like you're, like, 6. Appreciate it. Wait, when you were 12, you weren't, like, oh, my God, I'm, like, definitely a Division I player. I'm, like. No, well, not in my mind. I was tall. I was, like, a foot taller than everybody, but, like, I don't know. Like, you're playing against kids in your area. Like, I wasn't traveling at the time. Like, this morning, this morning, I saw a video online of the number one fourth grader. See, I hate those, like, number one fourth graders. Too much pressure. Yeah. Yeah, and also, like, kids, some kids are just bigger earlier. Yeah. Like, there was a kid growing up who was, like, my height in, like, third grade, and he was really good. And everybody talked about how he was the best player in the state. He didn't. He stopped growing in, like, seventh grade. Yeah, yeah. And he was. He ended up being, like, 6'1", which, like, isn't short, but, like, that's, you know. That's not a big amount. People thought he was going to be, like, the next greatest thing, and, like, I don't know. I think it, like, messes up kids', like, psyche. Because I. They don't follow sports quite like me. No, no. He's, like, a savant. But I went to a lot of Clippers games when you were playing. Oh, nice. Thank you. Thank you. What? Lob City. Not that many. That's what they called it. Arena, you know? Yeah. A lot of. There wasn't. There might have been something. I don't think they. They call it Lob City because, basically, he played with Chris Paul, who's, like, really good at. Yeah, I know. I remember Chris Paul. No, Blake Griffin's one of the best dunkers in the history of basketball. Dunker. Dunkers. I mean, I wouldn't even label you a dunker like that. I mean, I could speak. It's okay. I could speak about your game ad nauseum. Like, what's wrong with you? Because you're, like. You're, like, so. Like, God made you, like, too perfect. There's got to be something wrong with you. Like, you're, like. He's, like, the hottest guy and. I know. He's, like. You're, like, the hottest guy and, like, the best at playing basketball. And you can, like. And you're, like, funny. No, he's the most. You're, like, funny, too. Yeah. Stop. What's wrong? Is there something, like, really wrong with you? No, he's the fucking man. You have, like. You have, like, four. Three toes or something. Yeah, I got some demons. Yeah, what are your demons? I don't know. I don't really. Do you have demons? Um. I don't know. I feel like I was just so, like. Maybe, like. Focused. Yeah. Task at hand. Like, you have to be so, like, locked in. So, like, does. Has your world totally been rocked since you've retired and you're no longer doing it? No, because I kind of, like. I started preparing for it pretty early. And, like, just, like, doing other stuff. You know, I started a production company in 2016. Yeah. My brother and I have a VC fund. Like, I. So, as soon as I retired, I, like, stepped into all that. So, that helps. Yes. And also, like, I was just, like. Dude, I had nine surgeries. Like, uh. Whoa. You know? Yeah. So, I was, like. I was feeling it. Yeah. Like, I feel great for just living life. But, like, to go play an 82-game schedule, it was, like. Working out and recovery, like, was, like, 70% of the day. Yeah. You know? Do you feel freer now? Because, like, when you're playing an athletic sport like that, do you feel like you have to, like, eat well, sleep well, and you can't live your life, like, fully? Yeah. For sure. Because, like, I would get, like, anxiety about if I woke up. I have a problem with, like, waking up and not being able to go back to sleep. Yeah. Yeah, me too. And, like, if it's a game day the next day, I would be, like. Ugh. I would have, like. You know, like, you have, like, sleep anxiety. Yeah. You know, like, where you'd, like, toss. And you'd be, like, ugh, shit. Like, okay, I could get two hours before I go back to sleep now. Or, like. Yeah. But it all. Over time, like, you learn how to, like, deal with that. You know? But I can't imagine. Like, I couldn't sleep last night, but I can take little things to help. But I can't imagine not being able to sleep and then having to go, like, run. Game six. Run. Yeah. Yeah. It's just part of it. Yeah, like, is there ever, like, before. Like, the day before, do you, like, ritual. It's, like, don't touch. Like, I can't have sex the day before. I can't do this the day. Like, is there, like. Yeah, do you have rituals? My rookie year, I used to, like, be very, very strict about everything. And then, like, over time, I kind of learned where I could. Because you could burn yourself out. Yeah. You know? Like, one year, I was, like, I'm going to eat so strict. And I went, like, three months of just, like, literally nothing bad. Yeah. No alcohol? And no alcohol, no. Like, very little sugar. Like, very. It was, like. Really? And I fell off the roof. I fell off the wagon, like, three months into the season. Not drinking-wise, but, like, I just. I kind of started eating shit, like, shitty. You know, I'd go to, like, the hotel, like, mini bar and have, like, peanut M&Ms and, like, you know. That's affecting your next game? Yeah, did you notice a difference? Not really. So it's, like, fucking. So, like, then, from then on, I was, like, okay, moderation. Like, if I, like, after a game, if I'm, like, you know what? I want pizza. I'll eat pizza. Dude, you're, like, working out all day. I know, but, like, it's part of the whole. What's the biggest thing that would impact a game? Like, what's, like, the biggest difference between, like, this. Probably sleep. Honestly, sleep. What if you get in a fight before? Like, you're, like, you're. With your. No, no, you're, like. With your significant others? Or, like, your parents say. Someone says. Has that affected you? You're, like, thinking about. Dude, there have been times where, like, something's, like, going on in my life and I'm literally, like, at the free throw line and it, like, pops into my head. And I'm, like, I'll shake that off. You know what I mean? Yeah, I love that. And I don't think people think about that. No, no. Thank you for saying that. Like, guys are having, like. Guys are having shitty days. And, like, listen. That's what I'm saying. We're playing a game and, guys, you get paid to play it. So, it's, like, it's all fine. But, like, also, like, sometimes, you know, guys are allowed to have bad days. Can I tell you one of the. My biggest pet peeves every time I would go. I went to the games a lot with someone and they. I forget the player's name. But every time he would. Chris Paul? No. Every time he would go to do the. Play Griffin? No. Was it me? Are you telling the story? It wasn't you. Oh, Hack-a-Shack. No, what's his name? Oh, DeAndre Jordan. Yes. Yes. Oh, Hack-a-DeAndre Jordan. They would mess with him and I felt like I could feel the pressure. And I would just be like, everyone needs to chill out and let this man do his job. Yeah, it sucks. She hates that part of the game. She thinks it's completely unsportsmanlike. It's, like, mean, yeah. Yes. Oh, yeah. I truly hate it. And I think. It doesn't matter which team you're on. I'm like, let them. You can, like, do it outside. But when everyone is here trying to play, it would, like, make me cry. Yeah, that's a competitive advantage. It's interesting because, like, sport, professional sports especially, is so much, like, find the weak link. Yes. Yes. It's so mean. It's exploiting, but it's, like. That's competitive sports. It is, like, the highest level and, like, you know, I don't know. Like, DeAndre was so good at other things that, like, free throws wasn't his thing. And it's, like, we didn't look at it, like, I don't know. They were good things if everyone would just, like, calm down for a second. All right. Hey, can everybody just chill the fuck out for a second? I'm trying to make this free throw. I know. There's, like, so much pressure. Like, I think, like, I play in, like, a rec league with my friends every weekend, and if I, like. You miss your first couple shots, you feel weird shooting your third one. Yeah. No, or if, like, I put too much lotion on my hands, I'm like, shit. Or, like, if my, like, ass itches, I'm like. Yeah. I'm like, like, something, like, anything could throw me. Well, there's such a difference. Like, I'm a great rec league player, and then, so I would always assume I would dominate celebrity games. Like, I was born to just. And then. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I also had never really, like, played in an arena, or, like, just felt the weight of space. Oh, my God. It's the weight of the depth. And the pressure of, like, you know, this is, like, being, like, filmed in a certain way. And just, like, you can't, it's not meaningless. So, as soon as I got in one of these games, I realized how it's such a different level of pressure. So, is every, like, NBA player, like, where you're, like, oh, that guy sucks at shooting. Like, they're, like, if they're on their own, like, in a gym, they're making, like, every shot. Yeah, because you have to think about, like, first of all, there's really good shooters on teams. And there's guys that aren't as good. And there's guys that aren't really shooters. But also, like, you're shooting every day. Like, even if you're not a shooter, you're shooting every day. And, like, you'll see the things of them go on to, like, pick up games and, like, make it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, so, the pressure's different. You're not as tired. You're not having to worry about the defensive end. You know, there's, like, a lot of variables. What's the deal with traveling? Because it always kind of looks like you guys are traveling. I don't know that much about it. It's gotten pretty lax. So, now, like, the rule is that, like, when you take a, sorry, when you take a dribble. Oh, I thought you meant traveling for games. Oh, I thought you were talking about. No, no, I mean, like, yeah, because never. I don't really know anything about basketball. I like that question. But when I watch, I'm like, wait, the only thing I know. They all look like travels. Is that you can't travel. Yeah. So, I don't understand it. Now, you can take a dribble. Yeah. And your first step is called a zero step. Oh. So, your first step is not really your first step. So, if I dribble and take this step, I still have two steps. Wow. Yeah. Did they change that? Because they were like, this is too hard to manage. I don't, it wasn't like a, it wasn't like a, hey, we're changing it to this. I think it just slowly happened because everybody was like. Yeah. And guys are so, their footwork is so good. Yeah. That they can make it look really. Yeah. Seamless. Seamless and also cover a lot of space. Yeah. Yeah. It's like you take one step and you cross the. That's where like. It's like carrying as well. Carrying? Yeah, carrying. Like, back in the day, like, every guy used to dribble like this. They'd be like. Yeah. Like, there was no. And then, like, eventually. Oh, yeah, now people take it under. Yeah. And, like, Allen Iverson was, like, one of the best at, like. Yeah, he would like. He really, he really, like, kind of, like, invented certain, like, cross. He, like, like, what became the. Well, Tim Hardaway. Yeah, Tim Hardaway. Killer cross. Yeah. Oh, my God. That one was like the, yeah. You know what I really loved was watching your game just evolve. Oh, thanks, man. I think about Detroit, Lake Griffin. I'm from Detroit. Oh, nice. Well, no, I was born in Grosse Pointe, but I lived in Grand Rapids. Grosse Pointe, okay. You like it there? I, I actually enjoyed it. Like, I was like, it was, I had, like, I'm from Oklahoma. Oh, yeah. So, it kind of reminded me more of that. Like, where I had space and a house and, like, neighbors weren't, like, right on top. Yeah. And, like, I enjoyed that part of it. Because during the season, I don't really, like, go out much anyway. I would just be, like, in the house. Even back when you were young in the prime of Lob City and L.A. was your town? Dude, you're playing, you're playing every other day. Oh, wow. So, like, yes, there are some times where it's like, hey, you got a day off next day. And so, we'll go out to dinner. We'll go out. But, like, not regularly. Yeah. You know? When you moved to L.A., like, your complete social life changed. Like, every guy's fighting to play for the Clippers or Lakers, right? No, nobody wanted to play for the Clippers when I got there. Before Blake. Oh, no, not, yeah, yeah, of course. When he turned the franchise around. Of course. But now, but I'm saying, like. Boy, this is, like, a real self-esteem thing. I mean, I didn't come hang out more often, dude. When you're in Detroit, it's like, okay, I'm in Detroit. When you're in L.A., you. I don't know if it's ever seen. I don't know if this chair's ever seen a man of your stature before. I don't think. I really don't. By the way, that's the thing. I worry about chairs all the time. I've been at a wedding and, like, set now. But you don't weigh a lot. I know, but still, it's embarrassing. What are you talking about? You weigh 260 pounds. Okay, you're in Detroit. It's like, okay, cool. We're going out to, like, whatever, like, the local bar or club. Detroit's a popping. Cool. Let's talk about young Blake in L.A., single man, moving to this big city. That's what I'm talking about. You're in L.A. You, like, your world, like, I remember, like, I remember seeing some of my. Because I don't really remember the first time I did. But I remember, like, having my friends come. Come out, like, to L.A. Like, I'm from Virginia. Like, my friends came out and they, like, I would, like, take them to a party. And their worlds were, like, actually, like, rocked. Like, some of my friends, like, they literally, I watched their bodies actually go like this when we walked into places. They'd be like. Like, they'd, like, stumble. I used to, like, text my friends from high school and be like, oh, my God, you'll never guess who I was, like, with last night. Blah, blah, blah. I still see, like, NBA players, like, take my breath away. So, like, now it's, like, people go to parties to see who they see. And they get some content. Not content, but whatever. They get pictures. They get this. They get, like, maybe a story to tell on their podcast. Or it's, like, it very much feels like social interactions or social gatherings now are just to, like. Transaction. Clout. Clout. And, like, a story to tell and a picture to post. You know, I think it's different. Content. I feel like it used to be college for me. Cheers. Oh, dude. It was just, like, the best. There was no cameras. Like, there was no. College was, like, the most fun, I think. I've ever had in my life. Other than marrying you and my life with you. Oh. But college. I don't know why I clap. We could be drinking anything. It could be an unhealthy soda. It could be disgusting. It could be tearing our insides apart. Or what we could be doing. Is drinking all week long. 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Happen. Immediately. When. We. Open. White. Claw. Please drink responsibly. Hard seltzer with flavors. White Claw Seltzer Works. Chicago, Illinois. Cut it out. I'm going to sip it right now. I miss when it was like you took it. Polaroids? No, when you would take the picture. Like when we were all in high school. We'd like go on spring break. You take the picture. Digital camera. That. Then you go get it developed. I've been like. I have this Contax T3 that I love. And I've been like. What's that? What did you just say? Contax. Like the film camera. Camera. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Got a little too much. You just spoke robotic. I have this Contax T3. I have Contax T3. I didn't. 470. Are we supposed to know that? I don't know. I felt like you guys. We were vibing on photography. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought we were going into a photography thing. Now I feel. No, it's like. So I have this film camera. I got like a Juno 106. I got a disposable. Okay. 47R. Tell us a little bit more about your camera. I was talking about this the other night. We were just. I was just. I don't know. I feel like when I first started taking film pictures. I would be like very frugal with them. Yeah. And like take a picture and be like okay. And now I'm like I'll just fire off like three different ones of like kind of the same thing in like different settings. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's so cool because it's like you kind of wait to find out. If you did good. And it's. The other thing too is like your phone is in your pocket. Yeah. And you'll still have the memory. Yeah. And you. By the way, you get digital files of it too now. Yeah. So it's. It's. I don't know. You get it? I'm not. I'm like trying to get better at it. Is this a post-retirement hobby or have you always been into this? I like. I got like a digital camera like a Leica Q. Oh yeah. Should I do it? I know that. I know that. A Leica Q3. Are you like a numbers guy or something? I do have two questions. It just made me get two questions. Should we sit on the couch? We can sit outside. Where do we go? You go right there. You want me to go corner pocket? I don't know. You're a big guy. But you might hit your head. I'm okay. I'm okay. I'm okay. It's like everything I do is like whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey, okay. Get up. Get up. Come this way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Watch your head. We had. Who came? Oh, Kareem. Oh yeah. Kareem. Kareem. Kareem came in here. And he. I had a different fixture back then. But he literally. The first thing that happened was he banged his head on the. He smacked the camera door. And it was like I felt so bad once he entered because he was. You shouldn't feel that bad. Did he have a hat on? No. No. In there you were talking about you know how the person's not going to like it. Do you have insecurities about anything? You do? Yeah, for sure. What are you insecure about? You have no physical insecurities. Actually. Physically, I actually do. What? My toe. So being a former athlete, like toes, your feet just get wrecked. Oh, I see. Can I see? I would show. I will at some point. I can see. I can see. I can see. I have. I'm insecure about my feet. Because they're disgusting. So I'll show you after I need to show yours. At some point I will. Do yours like look like LeBron's? No, not quite that bad. You got any non-physical insecurities? Non-physical insecurities. Yeah, I feel like I have. I don't know. I'm always so. I was always so jealous of like. There's a lot of athletes who are just incredibly confident people. And I think that's part of it for some guys. You feel so confident in me. I feel confident in you. To me. To me. Oh, to you. I think you're confident in me. I think I'm like confident to like a certain degree. But like. I was a very shy kid. Really? And I don't think people. Like I tell people that now. And they're like. You're so extrovert. Yeah. You're so extrovert. I'm actually not. I know. Like you don't like to always be around people. No. Yeah. You have to recharge. I definitely need to recharge. And also like if I'm walking into a situation like alone. Like I don't travel with like a posse. Yeah. I walk into a lot of situations like today. I just like. You just like walk in. And it's just like that thing of like. I don't know how this is going to go. Yeah. I'm not saying I was like nervous. But like. You're meeting new people. Some of my insecurities are. I think people would be surprised how like. I have like. Pretty normal insecurities. Did you get nervous before games? Like when you walk in? No. First game. First game of my career. Like first game of like college. this or that but after playing so many games and also you play just like i said almost every other night like you kind of just get used to like playoff games you gotta get nervous playoff playoff like the first playoff game yeah it's more of like a an anticipation less than like a i'm nervous i i always wanted to know this were you ever scared to take the shot if it was gonna be that never i loved it you love that moment that's the thing i miss the most is the big like high pressure moment like you're ready to you're ready to do that because you just can't replicate that really like in other areas or at least i haven't found one that like i don't yeah it's it's like the the moment is so big and you like you you don't know what's gonna happen like you kind of have your play but things go out the window and you have to improvise and you kind of like yeah and like i it never went through my mind what if i miss it was always like what if i make it and like i don't know why but like that's like the one moment like even my after my year i remember the off season i like had this like lingering insecurity of like what if i can't do that again you know like what if i can't have a good year what if i'm not good enough like even after even after like sort of proving yourself that's good that's good and i i didn't mind it at all it made you hungry it's the same way when i'm having the best years of my life like when i've been the most on top i'm thinking oh my god i'm definitely gonna get cancer like something's gonna something bad that means that you like your life but what you said which earlier when you were talking about what you miss i feel like if i if i were an athletic athlete athlete girly if i was an athletic you are an athlete you were like a dancer yeah playing like a blake griffin yeah the thing i would miss the most would be like the high of that shot like having that opportunity to like take it and then be like i fucking just did it the biggest adrenaline by the way biggest me as a player even though i always felt like a really clutch shooter and player i hated the last shot no like late game foul line requirements oh yeah those are like like were you scared weren't you didn't you get a little nervous i don't even yeah like it's a playoff game and it's those games tied up are you nervous yeah um come on you're you're you're i don't know if you have time to like be nervous you're but you're in your head yeah yeah yeah definitely in your head and they're like yeah you know what's crazy though those things that you don't you don't really see after you get used to it you don't really see it should we tell the people that yeah guys i've been doing this for a long time the rep is counting do you still get the high like if you play in like a game like a pickup game do you still get a high you know it's kind like i don't know if it's sad or not but like i haven't played i haven't even remotely come close to playing in a pickup game since i retired really have you not played no interest i like shoot around but i haven't played a game you have to understand too like you go play like a pickup game and like all right like am i gonna play hard am i gonna like try would i be able to get three dribbles off without you stealing it if you go i don't know i've never seen you play no no just i'm just picture me i'm a normal guy like me right now or like when i was playing you can just turn your back no if i don't turn my back like do you think do you think there's a chance like that i couldn't get three dribbles off no i think you can get three dribbles off like if you're talking about like in my like when i'm like when i was like playing playing yeah i think maybe it'd be tougher but i also haven't seen you play and you play like basketball is so hard on the man not on the man well i'm not sure it's hard on women too but i feel like every you guys all play but you're all you are always like man i really wish i could play today but it's just not worth the risk of like dude achilles all i think about it you guys are all so i mean achilles acl oh my god after 30 yeah oh my god your achilles thins out well no it's just like your body you're you're every time you're when as you get older your joints have less mobility and like achilles are compromised and you can't ever get that thing back right i mean you can you can fix it but it's like your legs are two different sizes even guys in the nba who have like the best pt guys who have torn their achilles like they're visibly you can see how their legs are different sizes was there ever times without disclosing people's names that you would be like because you're on a team sport where you would be like butting heads with the teammate and then you like did you guys ever get on would there be like little tensions it's not huge things then you have to go out and play with each other yeah i never really had like any type of beef where i was like this guy yeah you get physical on the court though oh yeah did you play playing against people would you ever get a fight would you ever get physical and then instantly be like oh didn't take any like would you ever there's never a guy where you get physical and you'd be like holy i never got into it with him and i'm like i played with him and playing with james johnson who's like yeah he's a i was just telling the story he's a he has i think nine brothers and sisters his parents double black belts in brazilian jiu-jitsu all of the kids yeah double black belts yeah so he's like one guy who don't fight everybody votes on like that like who at least would want to fight yeah he always is the one he's always are you what do you mean you got into it with him no no no no we got drafted the same year we're like yeah were you all bark no bite like would you ever have fought were you ready to fight yeah but like it never comes down to it yeah yeah i shouldn't say never sometimes it does you know i would have been so scared to besides like shaq and the obvious ones rasheed wallace like yeah back in the day charles oakley do you remember oh my god charles oakley's hands are like probably like a little bit bigger than mine but like each finger is like twice the width i bet you got everybody's everybody's like you know how like some teams have like kind of not goons but like they're just the physical games especially i feel like coming like you're like you're like so charismatic and good and strong and he plays so he's so physical he's always being probably guarded by like their most you play so physically he's like he's just physical and he's like saying doing things like this yeah he's like yeah he's he's like pushing after places no sometimes i just feel like people like people would yeah you would never back down you would get tested a lot especially early on you were like all smiles until and i could i would see you go from smiling to just like yeah what did it physically i never when i watched i mean and didn't know you i never once like when i watched thought like blake griffin's a i was never like blake never some people did no no yeah but it's because you were like a good looking guy but then i felt like you held your own though all the time everybody have no choice but to be a if you can't fight well no no you can't be a you can't be a there's like there's like ways of like becoming like a tougher mba guy and like kind of a maybe a yeah there's so much like there's so much like interpersonal stuff now i gotta i gotta know there's there's there's one thing we haven't spoken about that's like so as important to me as what's happening like you guys just won you just won in miami wayne wade's pissed off coach comes in he gives his little post-game speech i'm usually like feet in the ice bath you're not even listening ice on my knees i'm like off good we're in the 305 yeah uh yeah like ice for like 10 to 15 minutes and then shower if i need to get any like i don't know sometimes you have like something like yeah go to the trainer get your condoms like let me get you some more water here let's go outside okay let's all go inside yeah let's go inside let's go wash my head wash my head everybody wash your head everybody dug down do we need to rub his hamstring or something i'll get you some water i'm gonna go sit on the couch okay you guys go on the couch blake i'll fill you up i appreciate it oh yeah gracious host oh i like the giraffe yeah oh yeah i i the way that that draft stands inspires me chest out proud ready to take on the day i literally thought you were going to say the way that draft stands reminds me of you that's something better than water i'd be on about an ollie pop oh okay one left so i came in here with the right intention i was going to give blake an ollie pop and someone's been drinking all the ollie pops i don't know who it is i don't think it's blake because he's new here it could be benny could be kristen either way we have one left and uh so even though i came in here with the right intention of giving one to blake i'm kind of rethinking everything and i do have a meal i'm going to eat at the end of the day that is going to be way better with a cold ollie pop especially blackberry vanilla it's a great flavor so blake might just have to make do with filtered water i'm sorry blake what's it what what's like you know you say you got the camera what's another hot do you have any hobbies uh i play golf oh are you good i'm i'm okay are you good at every do you have to be good at kind of everything like when you say okay like what's your handicap like a nine oh okay so you're you're good i'm like that's good no that's good i started like playing like four and a half years ago and like got obsessed with it but you would be good at like like football like you'd be like i played football basketball baseball soccer growing up like you're good at all of those right could you have gone professional at any of those you think maybe football yes yeah for sure it could have been a whole thing not for sure but yeah yeah like a defensive end or something like oh wow i think so do you so your son is how old 12. do you want him to do only i truly mean this only if he actually wants to do it is he into it he loves sports loves it on his own loves basketball loves football and are you like secretly though like yes i just my hope for him is like if he does want to play professionally or even in college like that he's like really loves it because it can get it can get they can get a little brutal especially with how people talk to people i feel like it's not really spoken about how often like athletes are just like it's carte blanche to fully dehumanize them and be like yeah fuck you blake like yeah you're a fucking weak pussy yeah yeah and like you're supposed to like you have to be like a kid sitting courtside like talking shit to you you're just like what the fuck It's like the elevator theory. Don't ever say to somebody during a sporting event that you wouldn't say if you were trapped in an elevator with them. Could you lose a big game, maybe even a playoff game? You're not eliminated, but a big playoff game. Could you lose that game and go home and have a pleasant evening? No. Yeah. No. I like sick. Yeah. Especially a playoff game. But a regular season game, you could maybe have it. A regular season game over time. Some are hurt more than others. If you play really bad and you lose. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not to say if you lose, you play good. But if you play bad and you lose, you're like, damn, that was my fault. How long until you can kind of recalibrate and be back to like, all right, I'm not going to let this eat me up anymore? I think it will always stay with you a little bit. One year in the playoffs, we were supposed to do really, really well and ended up losing, I think, in the second round to Oklahoma City. And had that. And had a chance to beat them. And after that series, I literally, I had like two of my buddies were staying with me. We like woke up every day, went into my theater and watched Game of Thrones. And like watched, I think I watched like six seasons in like literally five days. Like we would just lock ourselves in there and order food and just, yeah. That's a sad I love hearing that. Do you cry? There's tears. I've cried, yeah, for sure. Not regular season games, but playoffs for sure. Do you look back like, you know, you're apart. Lob City, the Clippers, that's one of the like kind of like the most famous like winning teams that didn't do it. Are you going to be haunted by that or not really because you're like, fuck it. I'm like Blake Griffin. I had like a Hall of Fame career. Yeah, no, like bummed for sure. Like I look back and I'm just, I'll see like highlights or I'll see something now and I'll be like, I wish I could have just done this or I wish I could have like been a little bit better at that. Or like, you know, it's not like, it's not to the point where I'm like, it's not like dread. Like I'm not like sitting there dwelling on it. But like, yeah, it bums me out that we never. Do you think you think about it every week? Once a week? Yeah, probably. Really? Well, you think about, I mean, you're just like. He's thinking about his legacy. Also, like in my house, I have like my jerseys and you see like the Clippers jersey and you, like, so it's not like that I'm sitting there being like, damn, or I'll just kind of be, I don't know if, once a week might feel a little bit too much. Once a week. But like, I definitely like think about it. You think about it, but you're not like so heavily impacted by it. Quarterly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. KFC box feast. Why don't we each pick one? I'm going 11. And I'm going nuggets. Oh my God. You know, this is only $7. No, this is only nine. This one, 11. Look at this. Can you see how thick this sandwich is? Look at this sandwich. 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Because I think you have the skill set to be a truly elite all-time analyst, but I'm not sure that's what you want to start, but do you feel competitive the same way you did as a player? Well, I feel competitive in terms of being prepared, but what I've learned about this show is because I'm with Dirk and Steve Nash and Udonis Haslam and then Taylor Rooks is our host. The show is better when we're all, so I'm not competitive with. No, no, no. But I'm competitive in terms of I want to know what I'm talking about and I want to say it in a way where people are like, wow, that's really good. And I just, I'm trying to like do a thing where I'm not, I'm only, like I'll be critical, but only if it's like truly deserved. Yeah. Like I could, I, you, yeah, guy went three for 17, like that's fine. It happens. Yeah. You think he's happy about it? No. I like that you're doing that. No one wanted to make those shots more than he did, trust me. You reframe it so it doesn't feel like it's such a critique. Yeah, there's a way to, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Which I think is good because. I think that is good. Yeah. There's a way to say it. Did you ever go to a sports psychologist? Yeah. Like every team has. Yeah. Has, so my, my first time ever seeing a sports psychologist, around 2012, I think it was, it sort of became more of a thing and the Clippers hired the team sports psychologist and everybody was required to meet with him. So he's like, hey, you know, it comes up to me after practice. He's like, hey, why don't you, if you want to meet like outside of here, we don't have to sit there. We can go get coffee. I can come by the house. And I lived in Manhattan Beach at the time, like down in the ocean. I was like, yeah, why don't you come? And we sat on my balcony and we talked. He left and I went in to take a shower, put my phone in the charger, took a shower, came back and I see a missed call from him in a voicemail. So I clicked the voicemail and it's him and he goes, hey coach, just left Blake's house. We had a good talk, some really interesting things. And I was like. Oh man. I was like, oh my God. That's crazy. First of all, I can't believe he fucked up that bad because that's really fucked up. Oh wow. And second of all, I was like, well, fuck that. I'm never seeing another sports psychologist. Yeah. Sports psychologist ever again. I wouldn't even have thought that was legal. I guess they work for the team. I don't think it is. Oh, okay. Do you go to therapy? I do. Yeah. I do. Yeah. I didn't most of my career, but I have like pretty consistently lately. Yeah. Yeah. I'm surprised you didn't do it for your. I feel like I would have to be. You didn't have time. You had to get a seat in the bucket. But so much of it too. I got to go out. New Orleans, Miami. You were meal prepping. And they would have had a chef for you. Do you ever wear the ice buckets to the club? You ever. Oh, dude. Have you heard the. Nice. Mullins. God, there's a. Oh, my God. I just went blank on his name. You can just make. Golden State. Clay Thompson. No, no, no. Older guy. Chris Mullins. Chris Mullins. Oh, my God. Apparently he used to go to some bar, like some kind of like dive bar after every game, after every home game. And he would get a giant ice bucket with like 15 beers, put his feet in it and sit there and just sip beer. And people would come up and he would. I always loved that story for some reason. Can you do a game hungover? Have you ever played a game? Have you ever played a game slightly hungover? Or does it really fuck with you? Yeah, you have. Of course. Yeah, I've definitely like. Yeah, it's. Have you ever played amazing? Not very much. Yeah. Like hungover? Like, by the way, a lot of times when you're sick or you're hungover, you'll have like. And I didn't. Hungover, I did very, very rarely. But there was one time where we were like in New York and like a blizzard was coming in and we're like, the game might get canceled. But we go, we go to New York and then you, there's like one of those. Like restaurant turns into a. Yeah. And like, next thing I know, it's like 2:00 AM and I'm like, oh my God, I gotta get out of here. So I go home, sleep, wake up, see a text, shoot around has been canceled. I'm like, thank God. So we don't have to get on the bus and go to shoot around. So I just slept until we left for the game, which is like three or four. Do any players get high? I play perfect. I play so much better. No possible chance. I could play high. Me neither. Oh, we should get high and I'll play you. I would be great. I do. Like it just for sport. I actually don't, it's funny. I don't get high while I make music. I don't like the feeling I need to stay. I need to stay very, I need to stay so focused. I don't even understand how I could do it. If I'm like alone creating, like, I can know sometimes the stress, the stress you're like, it's like, we know it's our last day. It's like game seven. We don't have, like, we don't, the song's like not done. We don't have it. Like, and you gotta deadline for an album. Like do like a week with an artist at like a cool studio or something. And then like, they won't be booked on that Monday and they'll know it's like their last chance for a while to work on the thing they're working on. Or like, like, like when we were doing all those Kanye albums, we would, where he was making them in like seven days, it'd be like, it'd be like, was he really? Yeah. It'd be, it'd be, it'd be day started day seven, zero vocals, zero, zero for the whole album. And we, he'd be coming, he'd be coming to the release party would be like 8 PM that night. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he'd be like, I don't know how that's going to happen. There's no vocals. Dude. And we'd go like this. We'd go like this. I remember we were doing the kid C ghost one, the ones with the one with Kid Cudi. Okay. And we're sitting there and he did it at like this ghost town far away. And like, you went to that one. Oh, was that the one out in like. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Something crazy far. And I'm sitting, and I'm, and I'm sitting with Ye and it's the night before and we're like about to start recording all the vocals. And he's like, bro, I'm exhausted. I'm exhausted. And he said, I'm going to. It was like 5:00 PM and he was like, I'm going to go sleep. I'm going to come back at 3 a.m. And I'm going to cut until the next day, until we do it. We have no vocals, just scratch vocals. He came back at 3 a.m. He cuts the whole thing. It's like 7 p.m. The thing starts at 8 p.m. We still, like, there's so much left to do. Like, I'm in this room. There's like a glass case where you are. A glass? Like a glass window where you are. So you can see through. And you see guys, like, all the people that work for him. The guys have, like, two phones. They're like. You see people, like, yelling. And he's like, play it again. And we're, like, listening to Reborn. And he listens to his verse. And he's like, again, again. And he listens, like, ten times. And we're like. And I'm like, what's he listening for? And he stands up and he's like, man. He's like, I'm fucking dope. And then he's like, I just had to realize how good I was again. And then we get in the car. He's still. We're recording vocals on a laptop on the way there. Putting them into the. Like, a lot of it was recorded just on, like. Sometimes it was recorded on a cell phone. And we just put it in. He would change it the day after. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then we get there. And it's like, those times. They're so electric. And, like, for me, every time I'm turning in an album for anyone, whatever it is, I'm like, I always leave it kind of till the last minute. Because I like to fiddle. I like to fiddle so much. I like. You like the deadline. I like the rock. The pressure, yeah. I want the ball. When it's time to go and it's like, you could pass it to anyone. I want the rock. I want to shoot the three every time. Ten out of ten. Me too. I would love to be past the ball and shoot it and make it. Shoot one every time. Is there a hoop? Oh. Oh, you're the hoop. Okay. Almost there. Oh, really? Can I sit on the gym? Yeah. Who knows if it can hold a man like you? Dust. Who was the hardest guy you ever had to play against? Like, that was just like, oh, I can't believe I got to play him tonight. Both in terms of. Guarding. Guarding. But I also mean like fear. Oh. You feared no man. I feared no man. You fear us a little. I do fear. A little bit. A little. Who did you fear? Man, I don't. It's like a good question. I mean, there was like really. The thing was you like love playing against the best players. Yeah. So it's like there were some guys that were just like more physical and more like harder to guard that were just like, it was just like, damn, that sucks. Yeah. But like the Tim Duncan when I first. Scott and Dirk and like LaMarcus Aldridge was so, he was so good. So good offensively. A little mid-range. That like he was, but I loved playing against him. Was there any kid like you, any guy that like just so happened it was like his last year when you were in, that you grew up like watching every, like as a kid and you like are playing like your hero? Oh, yeah. I mean, dude, my like first like real like welcome to the NBA moment were playing San Antonio in a preseason game. Oh, my God. It was my first preseason. It was my first preseason game. And we're in San Antonio and I'm doing the court warm up early like I talked about. Yeah. And I'm like going through stuff and I turn and I look at the other end and Tim Duncan is warming up. Want me to be Duncan? I'll be Duncan. Yeah, you be Duncan. The nicest man alive. You be Duncan. He is the sweetest person ever. But he's also like, you have to understand, since I was nine years old, I've been watching him. He's like warming up and I turn and I literally just stopped and I like watched him for a second. My coach was like, yo. I was like, oh, yep. And it hit me in that moment that I was like, holy shit. Like, this is my dream. I'm about to play against Tim Duncan. It was a preseason game. Did you say anything to him? Like, man, I love you. He said. Did you say like, you're my hero? You know what? I was so like, can't give away an edge that like I didn't. Not even at the end? Oh, no, no. For sure. He knows how much I respect him. What about when there'd be like people on the side, like the celebrities on the side? Yeah. You ever fall in love with a woman? Like, like when you're. Yeah, has that ever happened to you? You're like dripping down the court. See a girl on the sidelines? And you fell in love with a woman? There's definitely like when you're like young and single and like, you know, especially in L.A., like when you're sitting courtside, it like gives you a little extra like pep. Yeah. Wait, have you ever gotten a date off of like when a girl's sitting courtside and you're, you don't have to say a name, but like you're dribbling down and she's there and you lock eyes and you like. DM her after or something. Not even DM. Maybe you go up to her. No, he's a class act. No. He's a professional. There's nothing not classy about that. And I, from afar. Nothing not classy about that. Wasn't it crazy going against KG? Like. Yeah. He was probably so intense. Oh my God. Dude, he, dude, he was, he, cause he like talks to himself. Like he'll talk shit, but he's, he's, he's like, he'll like walk right by you and be like, this fucking pussy can't guard you. But he's talking to himself. So you're like, you're like. You're like, am I the pussy? Am I, am I the pussy? Am I the pussy? You are the pussy in the equation. Okay. Who, who talks the most shit? He also, before games, he would go, sorry, he would go. Yeah. He would like pull his jersey out and be like. And like rub it in his chest. You're just like, what the fuck was that? I don't know. For like good luck? I don't know. That's disgusting. It's intimidation. I don't know. You just be like. Wait. That's disgusting. Kevin Garnett, KG. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Was any man so sweaty you didn't want to like go? I know in a pickup game I hate it. No, you're not noticing differences in men's sweat. What? Yes. Really? Of course you are. You're like guarding the post and like you have. I thought everyone was so sweaty. No, no, no. Not the same amount. What about B.O.? I would change my jersey. Oh, yeah. Who smelled the worst? No, don't say it, don't say it. Yeah, I don't know. Don't say it. Does Jokic sweat a lot? He, man, he's like kind of a sweaty guy. Yeah. But like, dude, look at SGA. Looks like he never sweats. Yeah. And B, like, every time he's at the foul line, it's like a waterfall coming on. I played with Andre Drummond. He would change his uniform. He would wear four different jerseys. Wow. I would change at halftime because I sweat a lot. Does everyone change at halftime? Not, not, no. But I am like a, I'm my whole fit. Like, my dad and my brother and I all sweat. Like, when I work out in the summer, I would take like three shirts. Listen. And I would like change shirts like during the workout. Wow. It's like, it's weird. Have you ever used your sweat to your advantage in a game? Oh, by the way, free throw, free throw? Yeah. If, like, say the other team's shooting, the other team's shooting, so like, you know, you're the block. You, like, I would go like this, give it back to the ref, and sometimes the ref wouldn't notice. You would do that? Oh, yeah. Hey, did you, do you, do you, do you, like, at the free throw, do you, do you, are you ever, like, when they're shooting? Pussy. Like, do you ever do that? Or no, no one does that in the NBA? No, but I would always do, like, I would always kind of, like. Why was, why wouldn't, why wouldn't someone do that at the biggest crunch time moment? I feel like, I, I don't know. It's never done? I feel like it's just, you, you, like, guys will talk. They'll talk to you. Was there ever farting during, like? Yeah. You definitely, like. No, farting, like, like, wow, like, right before the free throw. No, no. Like, it was, like, a secret. But, like, there's definitely times where you, like, walk and you're, like, oh, somebody just farted. And you're, like, you know, there's, like, nine other guys, like, I don't know who it was. Why is there not a guy, like, going like this? Like, like, like, a guy's about to shoot the free throw and it's, like. Yeah. Or, like, or, like, some guy who's, like, pussy. In the NBA, I never experienced it, but I'm sure, like. In the ABA, they're doing it. I could see, like, yeah, I could see, like, J.R. Smith doing something like that. Remember when he untied the guy's shoe at the free throw line? Do you believe there's a line to cross with personal trash talk? Yeah. Yeah. 100%. There's certain things, like, you shouldn't, like. Yeah. You can't, you can't take things, like. Perfect. You shouldn't say anything about anybody's family. Yeah. Like, really, like, you shouldn't, in the NBA especially, because of just the word, like, you shouldn't call somebody a bitch. Really? Like, it happens, but, like, you. I feel like everyone calls everyone a bitch. Yeah. Have you ever done it? Really? They're all just saying. You never called anyone a bitch? I mean, somebody will be, like, yeah, blah, blah, blah. But, like, I mean, that's not to say. Guys definitely do. That's not, like, crossing the line, but it is, like, one of those things that will escalate. Yeah. Yeah. It from, like, normal trash talk to, like, oh, it's, like, heated now. Yeah. So just if you say you're a bitch. You definitely, you can say that. But, like, it will take the trash talk. It will take the whatever is happening up to another level if you call somebody. Wasn't there, like, a Chris Paul locker room fight situation? Yeah, that was, like, yeah. It's all a myth? No, no. It was, like. Is that your team? So that was when CP left to go to Houston. Right. And we are in the locker room. CP and Austin Rivers had, like, gotten into it. I think Austin said something. This is, like, what I. And then so, I mean, CP was just on our team. So the away locker room at Staples Center, now Crypto, and the Clippers locker room is, like, right next to each other. There's just a hallway that separates the two. So he just went out the side door, and they tried to come talk to Austin. And it ended up being, like, the exact same thing you see on the court of, like, a group of us, a group of them. It was just, like. And then everybody's, like, all right, all right, all right. And, like, nothing happened. It was, like, really blown out of proportion. Who's in charge of the pre-game music? Like, whose iPod gets to go on? Oh, in the locker room? In the locker room. Yeah. Usually the vets. Did they trust your taste? So, okay. So pre-game locker room, you're not really playing music. No music. But, like, weight room at the practice facility and stuff, you're playing music. Why don't you just listen to your own? Everyone has their own. Can I still listen to the same? You can. Yeah. So in the locker room, there's usually not music. Guys are using their headphones. Yeah. Just because guys want to. But, like, practice facility and stuff, like, yeah, I would, like. Is it showers in there where everyone can see everything? Some of them. Why would they still be that way? Well, some of the home locker rooms, when you go on the road, because the visitor locker rooms aren't nearly as nice as the home. But it's NBA. It's like, let's, like, make it. Have you seen all your, you've seen your whole team naked? Yeah. I mean, at some point. Really? Yeah. Oh, wow. I mean, you kind of, like, it's unavoidable. You're in the locker room. You have to change. Showers are, like, there's probably, I mean. Wow. There's probably, like. Are there any guys who are, like, camp where they're scared? They turn around and, like, they don't. 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After you check out, enter FKS so they know that we sent you. - Because we did. - We sent you. - We're sending you right now. - helixsleep.com/FKS. - Is everyone showering after the game, or do some people wait till they're home? - No, so if you like, especially like rookies or something, if you don't shower after practice or after games, you get like, like a rookie, you're like, hey, like that's one. - Because they stink? - And you only get, 'cause it's just gross to like-- - Be around. - And you don't, some guys, you don't know if they're going home and showering. - Yeah. - And like, so after games, like, you gotta shower. - Did you ever have to have a talk? - Social etiquette. - Did a coach ever have to have a talk with one of the players and be like, hey man, you stink. - No, nobody does. - You need to change your deodorant. - By the way, I'm sure it has happened, but nobody I ever played with. - Every time I watch an NBA game, I always am like, I can't believe they make these men, they're 6'10". They're like, they have to-- - Oh yeah, you guys are all like this. - It's uncomfortable to me. - We're the biggest athletes in the world, like not necessarily pound for pound, but size, height-wise, and we also have to move so dynamically, and we have these smallest, like, rest areas. - They should have lazy boys. - It's 'cause they wanna sell every seat. - Yeah, every seat. All those courtside seats are two to six to eight K. - Are you wearing a bra? Are you wearing a brand new pair of shoes every game? - Almost. - Why, isn't it better when they're worn in? - No, because the-- - Rip? - I mean, if you think about, like, my weight. - Yeah. - Like, I can break a pair of shoes in, and like the heat, you know, from your foot, like break a pair of shoes in, like break 'em in. - Oh, break a pair of shoes in. - You can break 'em in so easily. - Yeah. - They're like, once I go out and do my 30-minute warm-up, and do my lift, and then go out for warm-ups again, the shoe is completely broken in. - You never have, at your level, you weren't, like, ever annoyed, like you would never, like, get in fights with your coach about, like, play time, right? Like, that doesn't happen. - Not really playing time, no. - Like, they don't pull you out? - As I get older, like, yeah, I mean, that happens to all the guys. Most guys are a little bit upset about their playing time. Unless you're a starter, well, top two or three starters, usually they're playing enough where you're like, doesn't matter. But everybody else below that, I mean, it's basketball. You want to play. - Yeah. - And so it's like, it's kind of like, it's not a bad thing. It's like a healthy-- as long as you're having a healthy conversation about it. - Who do they complain to? Like, the coach? - I mean, yeah, you'll talk to coaches. You'll talk to-- maybe your agent will call the GM, like, general manager, or like-- - Your season that you probably had the least playing time was, what, Celtics or something? - Yeah, yeah. - And that was, like, the only year that you ever experienced that level of playing time, right? - Yeah, the year before in Brooklyn, I was, like, kind of in and out a little bit, but-- - Was it enjoyable still to be a part of an NBA team and watch playing if you were-- or was it just kind of torture? - Yeah, it's fun being with the guys, but yeah, it was a little bit, like, just being like, fuck, I wish I could be out there, you know? - Can't you say-- can't you-- - No, but you have to be-- you also have to be, like, self-aware and be like, at that point in my career, I was like, yeah, I mean, there's better-- there's guys that can-- you know, so it's-- - Wait, is there any guy on the bench that never plays? - Oh, yeah. - Yeah, so many. - Multiple. - And they show up every day, and they sit out there, and they wait? - There's some guys they-- there's a guy that they-- - And they're getting paid a lot, too. - There's some guys that-- - They're still getting millions of dollars. - They get to play-- that they have on the team just, like, for almost, like, moral support. Like, what was that guy they got back on the-- wasn't it the Knicks or someone? - That's sweet. - They brought someone back. - Taj Gibson? - Might have been. - This year? - Like, an older-- it was recently. They brought back an older guy. - Yeah, there's-- it's called locker room guys. So it's, like, an older vet who's, like-- especially younger teams need, like, somebody older who's a good guy and, like-- - Yeah, you didn't know that? - Dennis Haslam. - That is the sweetest, most team-spirited thing I've ever heard. - How come-- - It's-- it's so common in basketball. Wow, you're really feeling the game. - Yeah, I feel it. - It feels good. - You just put a ball in this guy's hands, he can't stop. He can't stop. I did notice when you stood up, though, your knee made a sound. - It cracked? - It cracked? - It made a sound? - It made-- it was a-- - Did it hurt? - Both of them. - No, no, no. - I didn't hear that at all. - I heard-- I heard it twice. - But did my knees crack? - Both times standing up, cracks. - My ankles, knees. - Do you eat so much? You're so tall. I was just thinking about this. - I was just thinking about it. - I used to eat a lot more. Now I don't. - Yeah, like, when you're, like, playing games, are you eating, like, 8,000 calories? - I was like, 6,500 calories a day. - Yeah, yeah, like-- - 6,500? - Yeah, like, if you're playing a game, after a game-- - Maybe 7,000. - And does it have to be healthy? - That sounds fun. - I mean, it doesn't have to be, but it helps. - Isn't there, like, some NBA player who says all he eats is, like, Sour Patch Kids? What was the-- or is it an NFL play? - Who was it? - Lamar Odom? - Lamar Odom, yeah, he ate a lot of candy. - Yeah. - Jamal Crawford, he won't mind me shitting. He's, like, a candy-- he would get on the plane with, like, a bag of just, like-- just candy all in the bag. It's like, he's got, like, his iPad headphones and candy. - When I first met Lil Yachty, he drank, like, seven to 10 sodas a day and ate only candy. And then one time, he-- I think I still have the voice note. He-- he-- he called me so proud that he said he stopped-- he said he hadn't had any sodas or any sugar water, like, water with sugar in it, he said, for the last two months. And he was so proud. I have-- I still have a video of-- - He probably feels so much better. - Yeah. - You changed Yachty's life. - I might have. - I love a soda. - I want to see if I have it. - Look for it. - I will. You guys talk amongst yourselves. - Seven-- seven sodas is a lot of sodas. - Your teeth would rot out. - What's you guys' go-to carbonated beverage? - I mean-- - For me, I got no choice but to go with Olipop. - OK, I'd like to play you. - It-- it almost slipped my mind, and I almost forgot to tell you. I was just watching my "Boat Shred" episode that I'm about to release the one. - Oh, wait. - This third one, which will be-- I'll have a little piece of our session in it. But I haven't had soda or juice since three weeks ago. Maybe when I saw you, last time I had some, I think I drunk only water every single day. - Wow. - I lost about 12 pounds myself. - Yeah. - It's flourishing. - Yeah. - Baddest bitch you'll ever meet. I just wanted to say this to you, so you know. - That's sweet of you. - Seriously, no soda, no-- - So genuine, actually. - Isn't it crazy how much-- how much weight people can lose when they like-- - Yeah, from soda. - And I told-- - Just drinking, drinking calories is like so-- - Yeah. - Do you guys eat healthy? - No. - He says he eats like from the garbage. - You eat like a little kid? - You know, every-- yeah, like every-- - My best-- one of my best friends from back home, the one I was telling you about living with me, eats like chicken tenders and pizza and like-- - It's all he eats. - It's like Super Bowl every meal. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah, that's what he-- - Wings. Wings are here. - It was his birthday, and we said, we're going to cook you all your favorite things. What are your favorite things? Here was the menu. It was chicken tenders. - Yeah. - Oh, they're panko. - Buffalo chicken wing dip. - Oh. - Oh. - It is very good. - Cheesesteaks and calzones and a Caesar salad. - We were all like sick after, like our stomachs. - Oh, Caesar salad, all right. - And dry cakes. - Sprinkle, sprinkle. - We didn't get it for him, but he requested dry cake. - I love dry cake. - What is dry cake? - I don't know. - I just don't like sweet icing. - Oh, yeah, yeah. - Maybe if there was a thin layer, but-- - Do we have-- - Moist, you don't like moist. - I like pretty relaxed, but like for the most part, I'll try-- I would call it like 70/30. - What? - Are you like a-- - Healthy to like-- - Are you a foodie? - I love food. - Yeah. - Are you going to take off today? What are you going to do next? - Yeah, what's your day like? - No, I'm going to Malibu. - You spend more time in Malibu? - That's what I was going to ask. - We spend a decent amount of time in Malibu. Like, if I don't have the kids, the kids are not with me. - Well, Blake, I got to tell you, you are just an absolute pleasure of a man. - Dude, this is great. - You're so personable. Like, you're like our same type of-- - We would have been friends. - Yeah. Yeah, like, I think it's-- - You are friends. - We are. Yeah, I was going to say, what happened to you? Can you make friends at 37, 38, respectively? - I think if we all went to the same school, we'd be like in the same circle. - I hung out more with him. - Wait, what grade were you? What grade were you in? - '07 high school. - Me too. - '06. - '06. Older guy. - Oh, yeah. - You guys were in the grade above us. - Maybe you would, like, have looked up to a guy like me. - The upperclassmen. - You might have looked up to a guy like me. - The seniors. - Yeah, the seniors when we were juniors. - We would have been proud of you. - Yeah. - Thank you. - Oh, yeah. - We still would have been proud of you guys. - I want another group hug. - This is beautiful. - We kind of all were fun. - What great clothes. - Dude, you're so fun. Thank you.