The Blake Griffin Episode

[music] Miss Ann. Miss Ann? [music] See you this week! Look at this guys. This is our first baller. Yeah. Are you intimidated? No. I mean, this is me at home. This is your dream. This is my dream. Miss Ann. Look at this guys. Wow! Hey! Are we ready? That was just outside. I thought we were pointing. That was really good data. That was great. That was great. Thanks for having me. Sorry. Oh, groupie. Yeah. Blake Griffin's one of the best dunkers in the history of basketball. I really needed this. Doing things like this. I've been doing this for a long time. Will you ever scared to take the shot? I love this. [screaming] Can you really just chill the fuck out for a second? Get up. Come this way. He'll walk right by you. Oh, pussy can't guard you. We're in the 305, baby. [music] Dude, you're so funny. Is that a wrap? I just picked it up from God. Yeah, it's just sitting outside organically. This is not here for you. No, he travels with the ball. It's dirty, though. It's like, yeah, sorry. No, yeah, just my son. I was like, oh, that'll be a fun guy. That is a fun guy. That is a fun guy. It's a fun guy. It will be a perfect guy. I like the perfect guy. Height wise to showcase how tall you are. Yeah, yeah. Like, I'm like the perfect guy. How tall are you? I don't know. Five, four. No, no, no. I think I'm five, six. Can you touch the ceiling just standing? Yeah, when we got there. Wow. You got some dust. You got some dust. We're going to get that out. Like, do you want some water or anything? Water. Water would be great. Like, water? Water is great. So you're conscious, like, anytime you're walking, you have to be like, you know, I've never had to think of anything. Never, never. There's never any-- What about, like, you know, you go to like a castle and you're at a-- Nothing. You're not known, like, I can go anywhere. Before you came, Benny was asking. He said, do you think Blake has been the best player of his friends since he was like, like, by age five, eight. Did I-- No, no. That's not what I said. Okay. I said this. I said, were you born exceptional or were you like, did it, like, like, when you were five, were you just like every other kid shooting? And they were like, oh, and then, like, did you get exceptional? Was there like one year where, like, you became exceptional? Um, I don't know. Like, so my dad is a basketball coach, high school basketball coach. So, like, I've just been-- I've an older brother who played, like, I just-- I've had a ball on my hand since I could, like, before I could walk, you know? And then, like, start dribbling super young. So, like, I think, maybe, like, a little bit, like, advanced, but not, like, you wouldn't walk into a gym and be like, oh, my god. That's what I'm saying. It's not like that. Like, what age was it then? I think, like, maybe when I was young, like, 10. I have a 12-year-old son right now, and he's like, I think we're kind of, like, comparable. You go watch him play, and he's like, you're like, oh, he's good. But you're not, like, it's-- it's hard. Like, when you're, like, 12, like, these days, he's-- You look like 12-year-old son? Yeah, 12-year-old son. Well, because you're like six. When you were 12, you weren't like, oh, my god, I'm like-- Definitely division one player, I'm like-- No, 12. Not in my mind. I was tall. I was like a foot tall with everybody, but like-- Yeah. I don't know. Like, you're playing kids in your area. Like, I wasn't traveling. Like, this morning. This morning. I saw a video online of the number one fourth grader. See, I hate those, like, number one fourth grader. Yeah, and also, like, kids-- some kids are just bigger earlier. Yeah. Like, there was a kid growing up who was, like, my height in, like, third grade. And he was really good. And everybody talked about how he was the best player in the state. He didn't-- he stopped growing, like, seventh grade. Yeah. And he ended up being, like, six-want, which, like, isn't short. But, like, that's-- A lot of people thought he was going to be, like, the next greatest thing. And, like, I don't know. I think it messes up kids, like, psyche. Because I-- they don't follow sports quite like me. No, no, he's, like, a savant. But I went to a lot of Clippers games when you were playing. Oh, nice. Thank you. Thank you. What? Lobsity. That's what they call it. Oh. Well, there's no Lobsity branding in the arena, you know? Yeah. Lobsity. I don't think they-- I don't think they-- They call it Lobsity because, basically, he played with Chris Paul, who's, like, really good athletic-- Yeah, I know. I remember Chris Paul. No, Blake Reffens, one of the best dunkers in the history of basketball. Dunker. I mean, Dunkers. I wouldn't even label you a Dunker like that. It's like, I could speak with you about your game, ad nauseam. Like, what's wrong with you? Because you're, like, so-- like, God made you, like, too perfect. There's got to be something wrong with you. Like, you're, like-- I really knew this. He's, like, the hottest guy in-- I know. He's, like, the hottest guy in, like, the best of playing basketball. And you can, like-- And you're, like, finally-- No, he's the most-- You're, like, funny, too. Yeah. What's wrong? Is there something, like, really wrong with you? No, he's the fucking man. You have, like, four, three toes or something. Yeah, I got some demons. Yeah. What are your demons? I don't know. I don't really-- Do you have demons? Um, I don't know. I feel like I was just so, like-- Is it athlete? Like, you can't really, like-- Focus. Yeah. Has the hand. Like, you have to be so, like, locked in. So, like, does-- has your world totally been rocked since you've retired? And then you're no longer doing it? No, because, like, I started preparing for it pretty early. And, like, just, like, doing other stuff. You know, I started production company in 2016. Yeah. My brother and I have a VC font. So, as soon as I retired, I, like, stepped into all that. So, that helps. Yeah. And also, like, I was just, like, dude, I had nine surgeries, like, like, you know. Oh. Yeah. So, I was, like, I was feeling it. Yeah. Like, I feel great for just living life. But, like, to go play a 82-game schedule, it was, like, working out and recovery. Like, was, like, 70% of it. Yeah. You know. Do you feel free or not? Because, like, when you're playing an athletic sport like that, do you feel like you have to, like, eat well, sleep well, and you can't live your life? Yeah. For sure. Because, like, I would get, like, anxiety about if I woke up. I have a problem with, like, waking up and not being able to go back to sleep. Yeah. Yeah, me too. And, like, if it's a game day the next day, I would be, like, I would have, like, you know, like, you have, like, sleep anxiety. Yeah. And, like, where you'd, like, talk to you and you'd be, like, oh, shit, like, okay, I could get two hours of, like, sleep now. Or, like, yeah. But, at all, at all. Over time, like, you learn how to, like, deal with that, you know. But, I can't, like, I couldn't sleep last night, but I can take little things to help. But, I can't imagine not being able to sleep and having to go, like, well, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's just part of it. Yeah, like, is there ever, like, before, like, the day before? Do you, like, rituals? Like, don't talk, like, like, I can't have sex the day before. I can't do this the day, like, is there, like, you never told us? Yeah, never told us. My rookie year, I used to, like, be very, very strict about everything. And then, like, over time, I kind of learned where I could, because you could burn yourself out. Yeah. Like, one year, I was, like, I'm going to eat so strict. And I went, like, three months of just, like, literally nothing bad. Yeah. No alcohol. No alcohol. No, like, very little sugar. Oh. It was, like, dude. And I fell off the wagon, like, three months into this season. Not drinking wine. But, like, I just, I kind of started eating shit, like, shitty. You know, I go to, like, the hotel, like, minibar. And I have, like, peanut m&Ms and, like, you know. That's you. That's affecting your next game. Yeah, did you notice a difference? Not really. So it's, like, fucking shit. So, like, then, from then on, I was like, okay, moderation. Like, if I, like, after a game, if I'm like, you know what? I want pizza. All you eat. Dude, you're, like, working out all day. I know. But, like, it wasn't at all. What's the biggest thing that would impact a game? Like, what's, like, the biggest difference between, like, this-- Yeah. That's, like-- Oh, yeah. What if you get in a fight before, like, like, you're-- Like, you're-- With your-- No, no, you're, like-- With your significant others. Like, your parents say it. Yeah. Someone says, has that affected you? Dude, there have been times where, like, something's, like, going on in my life, and I'm literally, like, at the free-throw line, and it, like, pops into my head. Yeah. And I'm, like, like, shake that off. You know what I mean? Yeah, love it. And I don't think people think about that, because, like-- No, I'm not saying that. Like, guys are having, like, guys are having shitty days. And, like, listen. We're playing a game, and, like, you get paid to play it, so it's, like, it's all fine. But, like, also, like, sometimes, you know, guys are allowed to have bad days. Can I tell you one of the, my biggest pet peeves every time I would go? But, the game's a lot, with someone, and they, uh, I forget the player's name. But every time he would-- It was Paul? No, every time he would go to do the-- Three jo-- No. Three jo-- Was it me? No, it wasn't you. It wasn't you, but-- Oh, hack a shack. No, what's his name? Oh, Deandra and Jordan. Yes, yes. Oh, oh, oh. Deandra and Jordan. They would mess with him, and I felt like I could feel the pressure. And I would just-- Yeah. Yeah. Everyone needs to chill out and let this man do his jobs. He hates that part of the game. She thinks it's completely unsports, like-- It's like me, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I absolutely hate it. And I think, it doesn't matter which team you're on, I'm like, let them. You can, like, do it outside. But when everyone is here trying to play, like, make me cry. Yeah, but it is interesting because, like, sport, professional sports, especially, is so much, like, find the weakling. Yes. And it's, like, exploiting. It's exploiting, but it's, like-- That's competitive sports. It is, like, the highest level, and, like, you know, I don't know. Like, Deandra was so good at other things. That, like, Frito wasn't his thing. And it's, like, we didn't look at it, like-- I don't know. They were the thing. If everyone were just, like, calm down for a second. All right. Hey, can you really just chill out for a second? I know. If it's like-- I'm just trying to make this Frito. I know. There's, like, so much pressure. Like, I think, like, I play in, like, a wreck league with my friends every weekend. And if I, like, like-- You mentioned in my first couple shots, you feel weird shooting your third one. Yeah. No, or if, like, like, I put too much lotion on my hands, I'm like, shit. Or, like, ass itches, I'm like-- Yeah. I'm like, like, something-- You know, there's such a difference. Like, I'm a great wreck league player. And then, so I would always assume I would dominate celebrity games. Like, I was born to just-- Yeah. But I also had never really, like, played in an arena. Or, like, just felt the weight of my face. - The way to the depths. - I'm not sure how I'm like, you know, this is like being like filmed in a certain way and just like you can't, it's not meaningless. So as soon as I got one of these games, I realized how it's such a different level of pressure. - So was every like NBA player, like where you're like, "Oh, that guy sucks at shooting." Like they're like, if they're on their own like in a gym, they're making like every shot. - Yeah, 'cause you have to think about like, first of all, there's really good shooters on teams and there's guys that aren't as good and there's guys that aren't really shooters, but also like you're shooting every day. Like even if you're not a shooter, you're shooting every day. And like you'll see the things of them going to like, pick up games and like make it. Like so the pressure's different, you're not as tired, you're not having to worry about the defensive end. You know, there's like a lot of variables like, - What's the deal with traveling? 'Cause it always looks like you guys are traveling. - Oh my God. - I don't know that much about it. - It's gotten pretty lax. So now like the rule is that like when you take a, oh sorry, when you take a dribble. - Oh, I thought you did. - You're traveling for a game. - Oh, I thought you were talking about. - I didn't know you could ever, I don't really know anything about basketball. - I like that question. - But when I watch, I'm like, wait, the only thing I know. - They all look like travels. - You can't travel. - Yeah. - So I don't understand that. - Now you can take a dribble and your first step is called zero step. - Oh. - So your first step is not really your first step. So if I, if I dribble and take this step, I still have two steps. - Wow. - Did they change that? 'Cause they were like, this is too hard to manage. - It wasn't like a, it wasn't like a, hey, we're changing it to this. - I think it just slowly happened because everybody was like, - Yeah. - And guys are so, their footwork is so good that they can make it look really seamless. - Seamless and also cover a lot of space. - Yeah, it's like you take one step and you cross the foot. - That's what's happening as well. - Carry, carry, like back in the day, like every guy used to dribble like this. They'd be like, there was no, like they're, and then like, eventually, guys. - Oh yeah, now people take it under. - Yeah, and like Bill and Iverson was like, one of the best and like, he really like, kind of like invented certain like cross, so he kind of like invented like the Hezzi. Like what became the Hezzi? - Well Tim Hardaway. - Tim Hardaway. - Tim Hardaway, Tim Hardaway. - Yeah, Oh my God. - That one was like the, yeah. - You know what I really love was watching your game just evolve. - Oh, thanks man. - I think about the truth. - You sure like the like Griffin? - I'm from Detroit. - Oh no. - Well, I was born in Gross Point, but I'm living in Grand Rapids. - Look at that one, okay. - You like it there? - I actually enjoyed it. Like I was like, it was, I had like, I'm from Oklahoma. So like I never reminded me more of that. Like where I had space in a house. And like neighbors weren't like right on top of you. - Yeah. - And like I enjoyed that part of it. 'Cause during the season I don't really like go out much anyway. I would just be like in that house. - Even back when you were young in the prime of Lob City and like I was your town. - You're playing every other day. So like yes, there are some times where it's like, hey you got day off next day. And so we'll go to dinner, we'll go out. But like not regularly. - Yeah. - When you move to LA, like your complete social life chain. Like every guys fighting to play for the clippers are laggers, right? Oh, nobody wanted to play for the clippers when I got there. - No, no, not yeah, yeah, of course. When you turn the franchise around. - Of course, but now, but I'm silent. (laughing) - Well, this is like a real self-esteem move. I mean, I ain't gonna come hang out more often, dude. - When you're in Detroit, it's like, okay, I'm in Detroit. When you're in LA, you, well, I don't know. - I don't know if it's ever seen. - I don't know this. - I've never seen a man of your stature before. - I don't think. - I really don't. - But that's the thing. I worry about chairs all the time. - Really? - Oh, I've been at a wedding and like set down and-- (laughing) - You don't weigh a lot. - I know, but still it's embarrassing. - What do you know? What are you talking about? It was 260 pounds. - Okay, you're in Detroit. It's like, okay, cool. We're going out to like, whatever like, the local bar club is-- - The traits of popping. - Like cool. - Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. - I'm like in LA, single man. - That's what I'm talking about. - You're in LA, you like, like, your world, like, I remember like, I remember seeing some of them, 'cause I don't really remember the first time I did, but I remember like, having my friends come out, like to LA, like, I'm from Virginia. Like, my friends came out and they like, I would like, take them to a party and their worlds were like, actually like rocked. Like, some of my friends, like, like, they literally, I watched their bodies actually go like this when we walked into places. They'd be like, like, they'd like, they'd like, stumble. - I used to like, text my friends from high school and be like, oh my god, you'll never guess who I was like, with last night, blah, blah, blah. I still see like, NBA players like, take my breath away. - So like, now it's like, people go to parties to see who they see, and to get some content, not content, but whatever, they get pictures, they get this, they get like a, maybe a story to tell on their podcasts, or it's like, if you, that's, it very much feels like, social interactions or social gatherings now are just to like, have clout. - Clout, and like, a story to tell and a picture to put, you know, I think it's different. I feel like, I'm used to be college for me. - Cheers. - Oh, dude, it was, it was just like, the best. There was no cameras, like, there was no. - College was like the most, the fun I think I've ever had in my life. - Me too. - Other than marrying you in my life with you. - Aww. - Fuck off. - God, I don't know why I clap. - We could be drinking anything. It could be an unhealthy soda. It could be disgusting. It could be tearing our insides apart, or what we could be doing. - It was drinking all week long. - And getting all the same feelings of a soda, but just having a healthy alternative. - It makes me feel good. - That's right. - I think it's good that they're making you feel good. - Yeah, I like the taste, but it makes me feel good too. - I think that's great. We're doing a good job. - Buy any two cans of olipop in the store, and they'll pay for you, you. - Then they'll pay you back for one. Any flavor, any retailer. Go to drink olipop.com/shop. - Yes. - Now, Kristen, you know I've always dreamt of coming to Michigan for a summer. It's all I've ever wanted to do with you, since you guys became a thing. I think I'm coming now. And you know what's gonna come with me? I might just have to pack a little friend with me. And this is a white claw peach. - And what's that? A white claw mango. And what's another flavor we're bringing? - Black cherry. - Black cherry, a black cherry. - This summer is a white claw summer. We're gonna have fun. We're gonna grab life by the claw, but we're only allowed to say one word now. - Fine. - Will. - Happen. - Immediately. - When? - We. - Open, white. - Claw. - Please drink responsibly. Hard sells to reflame. This white claw sells to work. Chicago Illinois. - Cut it out. I'm gonna sip it right now. - I miss when I was like, you take-- - All the right. - No, when you would take the picture, like when we were all in high school, like go on spring break, you take the picture-- - You do the camera. - That, then you go get it developed. - I've been like, I have this context T3 that I love, and I've been like, just-- - What's that? - What did you say? - It's a context, like a film camera. - Oh, that's a camera. - Sorry, sorry. - I'm like, I'm just like, this context T3. - Are we supposed to know that? - I don't know, I felt like you guys-- - You were five years old. - Photography is-- - I thought we were-- - I thought we were going into a photography thing. Now I feel-- - No, it's like-- - We have this film camera. - I got like a Gino 106. That's like, disposable. - A 47 R. - Tell us a little bit more about your camera. - I was talking about this the other night. I was just, I don't know. I feel like when I first started taking film pictures, I would be like very frugal with them. Like, take a picture and be like, okay, and now I'm like, I'll just fire off like three different ones of like kind of the same thing and like different settings. And it's so cool because it's like, you kind of wait to find out. - If you did good. - And it's the other thing too is like, your phone is in your pocket. And you'll still have the memory. - Yeah. - And by the way, you get digital files up at two now. So it's, you know what I mean, it's-- - You good? - I'm like trying to get better, yeah. - Is this a post retirement hobby or have you always been into this? - I like, I got like a digital camera like, a like a cute character. - Oh yeah. (laughing) - I know that, I know that. - Oh, like a cute three screen. - Yeah. - Are you like a number sky or something? - I do have two. - You just made me get two questions. - Should we sit on the couch? - We could sit outside. - Where do we go? - You can go right there. - You want me to go corner pocket? - Yeah. - I don't know, you're a big guy. - But you might hit your head. - I'm okay. - You're okay. (laughing) - It's like everything I could do is your head. - No, no. - Hey, okay, get up. - Okay. - Get up. - Okay. - Come on. - Yes. - Okay. - Yes. - Let's just watch your head. - We had who came, who came? Oh, Karim. - Oh, yeah. Karim. - Karim. - I'm sure you know. - You got a bunch of bark. - He came in here. - I had a different fixture back then. But he literally the first thing that happened was he bent his head on the back of the car. - He bent his head on the back of the car. - And it was like, I felt so bad once he entered because he knew that. - I knew. - You should feel that bad. - Did he have that hat on? - No. - No. - In there, you were talking about, you know how the person not gonna like it. - Do you have insecurities in anything? - Oh yeah. - You do? - Yeah, for sure. - What are you insecure about? - Just like, you have no physical insecurities. - Actually. - Physically, I actually do. - What? - So being a former athlete, your feet just get wrecked. - Oh, I see. - And I see. - And I see. - I see. - I will at some point. - I can see it. - I can see it. - I can see it. - Karim is crying. - Karim is crying. - I have, I'm insecure about my feet because they're disgusting. So I'll show you after I need a show. - At some point I will. - Do you just look like a bronze? - No, not quite that bad. - You got any non-physical insecurities? - Non-physical insecurities. - Yeah, I feel like I have, I don't know. I'm always, I was always so jealous of like, there's a lot of athletes who are just incredibly confident people. - And I think that's part of it or something. - You feel so confident in me. - I feel confident in you. - Too me, too me. - Oh, too you. - I think you're confident in me. - I think I'm confident to like a certain degree. - But like, I was a very shy kid. - Really? - And I don't think people, like, I tell people that now and they're like. - You're so extrovert. - I'm actually not. - I know. - Like, you don't like to always be around people. - No. - Yeah, you have to recharge. - I definitely need to recharge. And also, like, if I'm walking into a situation like, I don't travel with like a posse. - Yeah. - I walk into a lot of situations like today. - Yeah. - I just like, like, walk in. And it's just like that thing of like, I don't know how this is going to go. - Yeah. - I'm not saying I was like nervous, but love it. - I think my insecurities are, I think people would be surprised how like, I have like, pretty normal insecurities. - Did you get nervous before games? Like, when you walk in? - No, first game, first game of my career. Like, first game of my college. of this for that, but after playing so many games and also you play just, like I said, almost every other night, you kind of just get used to like-- - One of the playoffs games. You gotta get nervous. - Playoff, like the first playoff game? Yeah, it's more of like an anticipation less than like a, I'm nervous. - I always wanted to know this. Were you ever scared to take the shot? If it was gonna be that, never. - I loved it. - You loved that moment. - That's the thing I missed the most is the big high pressure moment. - You're ready to, you're ready to do that. - 'Cause you just can't replicate that really like in other air, or at least I haven't found one that like, yeah, it's like the moment is so big and you like, you don't know what's gonna happen. Like you kind of have your play but things go out the window and you have to improvise and you kind of like-- - Yeah. - And like, it never went through my mind. What if I missed? It was always like, what if I make it? And like, I don't know why, but like that's like the one moment. Like even my, after my rookie year, I remember the off season, I like had this like lingering insecurity of like, what if I can't do that again? You know, like what if I can't have a good year? What if I'm not good enough? Like even after like, sort of proving yourself-- - No, that's good, that's good. - Yeah, and I didn't mind it at all. I'm using it. - It made you hungry. - It's the same way when I'm having the best years of my life. Like when I've been the most on top, I'm thinking, oh my god, I'm definitely gonna get cancer. Like something's gonna, something bad's gonna happen. - No, that means that you like your life. But what you said, which earlier when you were talking about what you miss, I feel like if I were an athletic athlete. - An athlete, you're an athlete, you were an athlete. - No, I mean like a, you know, playing in it. - Yeah, the thing I would miss the most would be like the high of that shot. Like having that opportunity, like take it and then be like, I fucking just guess. - But that's the biggest adrenaline. - It's the biggest adrenaline. - Me as a player, even though I always felt like a really clutch shooter and player. I hated the last shot. - No, like late game foul line requirements. - Oh yeah, those are tough. - Like that? - That's scared. - Didn't you get a little nervous? I don't even like, like it's a playoff game. And it's some games tied up. - Are you nervous? - Come on. - You're, I don't know if you have time to like be nervous, but you're in your head. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Definitely in your head. - And they're like, ah! - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Those things that, you don't really see. After you get used to it, you don't really see it. - Should we tell the people that-- - Yeah, guys, guys, hey. - I've been doing this for a long time. - No, I don't see it. - The rap is coming. - You still get the high. Like, if you play in like a pick up game, do you still get a high? - You know, it's kind of like, I don't know if it's sad or not, but like I haven't played, I haven't even remotely come close to playing in a pick up game since I retired. - Really? - Yeah. - Have you not played at all? - I've played around, but I haven't played a game. You have to understand, too, like, you go play like a pick up game and like, all right, like, am I gonna play hard? Am I gonna like try? - Would I be able to get three dribbles off without you stealing it? - If you go back. - I don't know. I've never seen you play. - No, no, just, I'm just picture me. I'm a normal guy. - No, 'cause you can just do this. - Like me right now, or when I was playing. - You can just turn your back. - No, if I don't turn my back. - Yeah, I can. - You can still go back. - Like, do you think there's a chance, like, that I couldn't, I get three dribbles off? - No, I think you get three dribbles off. Like, if you're talking about, like, in my, like, when I'm, like, when I was, like, playing, playing. - Yeah. - I think maybe it'd be tougher, but I haven't seen you play. And you play, like. - Basketball is so hard on the, not, not on the man. - On the man. - On the man. - I'm sure it's hard on women, too, but I feel like every, you guys all play, but you're all, you are always, like, man, I really wish I could play today, but it's just not worth the risk of, like-- - Dude, Achilles. - All I think about-- - Dude, you think you guys are all so, I mean, I get that. - Achilles, I see you all. - Oh my God. - After 30? - Yeah. - Oh my God. - Well, Achilles thins out, and you-- - Well, no, it's just, like, your body. Every time you're, as you get older, your joints have less mobility, and, like, Achilles are compromised. - Okay, oh my God. - And you can't ever get that thing back, right? Or something. - You can fix it, but it's, like, your legs are two different size. Even guys in the NBA who have, like, the best PT guys who have torn their Achilles, like, they're visibly, you can see how their legs are different sizes. - Was there ever times, without disclosing people's names, that you would be, like, because you're on a team sport where you would be, like, budding heads with a teammate, and then you, like, are, like, did you guys ever get on? Would there be, like, little tensions? It's not huge thing, so you have to go out and play with each other. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I never really had, like, any type of beef where I was, like, fuck this guy. - Yeah, as you get physical on the court, though. - Oh, yeah, that's, like, playing against people, yeah? - Would you ever get-- - Would you ever get-- - Would you ever get physical? And then instantly be, like, oh, shit. - Like, like, didn't take any shit. - Like, would you ever, there's never a guy where you get physical and you'd be, like, holding-- - I never got into it with him, and I'm, like, like, I played with him and I'm playing with James Johnson, who's, like, he's a, I was just telling a story. He's a, he has, I think, nine brothers and sisters. His parents, double black belts, and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, all of the kids, double black belts, yeah. So he's, like, one guy who you don't fight. - Everybody votes on, like, like, who? - Yeah, he's, like, at least would want to fight. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - He always has the one now. - Are you, what do you mean they got him with him? - No, no, no. - No, he's not. - No, he's not. - We got, we got, we got, we got, we got drafts this, same year, we're like, boys, yeah. - Where you all, were you all barked, no, bike? Like, would you ever have fought, were you ready to fight? - Yeah, but, like, it never comes down to it. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I shouldn't say never, sometimes it does, right? - You know, I would have been so scared to, besides, like, shack and the obvious ones, Rashid Wallace, like, back in the day. - Yeah. - Charles Oakley, do you remember Charles Oakley? - Oh my God. - Charles Oakley's hands are, like, probably, like, a little bit bigger than mine, but, like, each finger is, like, twice the width. - I bet you got everybody's, everybody's, like, you know how, like, some teams have, like, kind of, not goons, but, like, they're just the physical, gay people. - Oh, yeah, I got all that, especially, yeah. - I feel, like, coming, like, you're, like, so charismatic and good, and strong, and he plays so physical. - He's so physical. - And he's always being probably guarded by, like, their most physical guy. - He plays so physical. - He's, like, his whole thing, and he's, like, same, doing things like this. - Yeah, yeah. - Like, yeah. - He's, he's, he's a, - Was I pushing after play? - No, I just feel like people would test you. - You would get tested. - Yeah. - You would get tested a lot. - Well, I was. - And you were like, - I was, you were like, all smiles until, and I would see you go from smiling to just like. - Yeah, what if this is a lot? - Physically. - I never, when I watched, and didn't know you, I never once, like when I watched, thought like Blake Griffin's a pussy. I was always like, Blake Griffin. - Never. - Some people did. - No, no. Yeah, because you were like a good, looking guy. - You can't, but then I felt like you held your own, though. - Would everybody have no choice but to be a pussy? You can't fight? - Well. - No, no, you can't be a pussy. - You can't be a pussy. - There's like, there's like ways of like, becoming like a tougher NBA guy and like kind of a, maybe a pussy, yeah. - There's so much like, there's so much like, like, interpersonal stuff. - I'll say it. - Now I got it. - I got it. - I gotta know, there's, there's, there's one thing we haven't spoken about. That's like, so as important to me as game day, post game, what's happening? Like, you guys just want, I mean, you just want in my opinion way it's pissed off. - Coach comes in, he gives us little post game speech, I'm usually like, feet in the ice bath. - You're not even listening. - Ice, I'm like, I'm like, fuck off. We're in the three-o'-fifth, yeah. Yeah, like ice for like 10 to 15 minutes and then shower if I need to get any like, I don't know, sometimes you have like, something like, yeah. - Got it. - Go to the trainer, get your condoms. - Yeah. - Like, let me get you some water. - Here, let's go inside. - Okay. - Okay, let's go inside. - Yeah, let's go inside. - Let's go inside. - Let's go inside. - Watch my head, watch my head. - Watch my head. - Watch my head. - Everybody, watch your head. Everybody's dug dead. - We need to even rub his hands straight. (laughing) - I need just some water. - I'm gonna go sit on the couch. - Okay, you guys go on the couch. Blake, I'll fill you up. - I appreciate it. - Oh yeah. - Gracious host. Ooh, I like the giraffe. - Yeah. - Oh yeah. - The way that that giraffe stands inspires me. - Chest up. - Chest up. - I thought you were gonna sit out. - Right, you're gonna take on the day. - I literally thought you were gonna say the way that giraffe stands reminds me of you. That's, I use some better than water. - I'd be on it. - How about an ollie pop? - Oh. - Okay. - And one left, so. I came in here with the right intention. I was gonna give Blake an ollie pop and someone's been drinking all the ollie pops. I don't know who it is. I don't think it's Blake, 'cause he's new here. Could be Benny, could be Kristen. Either way, we have one left. And so even though I came in here with the right intention of giving one to Blake, I'm kind of rethinking everything. And I do have a meal I'm gonna eat at the end of the day that is gonna be way better with a cold ollie pop, especially blackberry vanilla. That's a great flavor. So Blake might just have to make do with filtered water. I'm sorry, Blake. - What's like, you know, you say you got the camera. What's another hot, do you have any hobbies? - I play golf. - Are you good? - I'm okay. - Are you good at every, do you have to be good at kind of everything, like when you say, okay. Like what's your handicap? - Like a nine. - Oh, okay, so you're good. - Am I just talking golf? - Yeah, talking golf. - No, that's good. - I started like, like four and a half years ago and like got obsessed with it. - But you would be good at like, like football. - Like you'd be like. - I played football, basketball, baseball, soccer, growing up. - Like you're good at all of that. - Yeah. - Could you have gone professional at any of those, you think? - Maybe football. - Yes, yeah. - For sure. - I think you could have been a half year, but yeah, I think you could have been. - Like a defensive end or something, like. - It's all. - Wow. - You think so? - So your son is how old? - 12. - Do you want him to do-- - Only, I truly mean this. Only if he actually wants to do it. - Is he into it? - He loves sports, loves basketball, loves basketball, loves basketball, loves football. - And are you like secretly though, like, yes? - I just might hope for him as like, if he does want to play professionally or even in college, like that he's like, really loves it 'cause it can get, they can get a little brutal, especially with how people talk to people. - Yeah, I feel like it's not really spoken about how often like athletes are just like, it's carte blanche to fully dehumanize them and be like, "Hey, fuck you Blake." - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - You're a fucking weak person. - Yeah, yeah. - And like you're supposed to like, There'll be like a kid sitting courtside like talking shit to you. You're just like what the fuck was It's like the elevator theory of like you like don't ever say to somebody during a basketball game or a sporting event That you wouldn't say if you were trapped in elevator with them. Could you lose a big game? Maybe even maybe a playoff game that's not you're not eliminated But like a big playoff game and could you lose that game and go home and have a pleasant evening? No, yeah, no I like sick, like yeah, especially a playoff game like a regular season game over time Like some some are hurt more than others like if you play really bad and you lose. Yeah, yeah That's not to say like if you lose and you play good But like if you play bad and you lose you're like damn that was my fault How long till you can like kind of recalibrate and like be back to like all right I'm like not gonna let this eat me up anymore. I think it'll always stay with you a little bit like one year in the playoffs we were we were supposed to do really really well and like Ended up losing, I think in the second round to Oklahoma City and had like had had a chance to beat them And after the after that series. I literally I had like two of my buddies were staying with me I we like woke up every day Went into my theater and watched game of thrones and like watched I think I watched like six seasons and like Literally five days like we would just lock ourselves in there and you order food and just yeah There's tears Like you know you're a part of lobster city the Clippers that's one of the like kind of like the most famous like winning That didn't do it. Yeah, are you gonna be haunted by that or not really because you're like fucking like Blake Griffin I had like a Hall of Fame career. Yeah, no like bummed for sure like I look back and I'm just I'll see like highlights And I'll see something now and I'll be like I wish I wish I could have just done this I wish I could have like been a little bit better at that or like, you know, it's not like it's not to the point where I'm like It's not like dread like I'm not like sitting there dwelling on it But like yeah bum it bums me out that we never do you think you think about it every week? Do you once a week? Yeah, probably really? Well, you think about it. I'm just like you say about his legacy Yeah, my house. I have like my jerseys and you see like the Clippers jerseys and you like so it's not like that I'm sitting there being like damn or I'll just kind of be I don't know once a week might feel a little bit too much What like I definitely like think about you think about it. I'm not like so heavily impacted by it quarterly KFC box feast. Why don't we each pick one and? I'm going to live in and I'm going nuggets. 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Good job Are you competitive as an analyst because I think you have the skill set To be a truly elite all-time analyst, but I'm not sure that's what you want to start But do you feel competitive the same way you do as a player? Well, I feel competitive in terms of like being prepared But like I would have learned about the show is because you know I'm with like Dirk and Steve Nash and you don't has them and then Taylor rooks is our host like We're at the show is better when we're all so I'm not competitive with no No, no, no, but like I'm competitive in terms of like I Want to know what I'm talking about and I want to say it In a way where people are like wow, that's really good. Yeah, and I just I'm trying to like do a thing where I'm not I'm only like I'll be critical, but only if it's like truly deserved. Yeah I could I yeah, yeah, I went three for 17 like that's fine. It happens. Yeah He's happy about it. No, I like that you know No one wanted to make those shots more than he did trust me. You reframe it So it doesn't feel like it's such a critical. Yeah, there's a way to yeah. Yeah, well, I think it's good I think that is good. Yeah, there's a way to say. Did you ever go to a sports psychologist? Yeah, like every team has yeah as so my first time ever seeing a sports psychologist Around 2012, I think it was It sort of became more of a thing and the Clippers hired the team sports psychologist Everybody was required to meet with him So he's like hey, you know, it comes up to me after practice like hey Why don't you if you want to meet like outside of here? We don't have to sit that we can go get coffee and come by the house and I I lived in Manhattan Beach at the time Like down in the ocean. I was like, yeah, why don't you come and we sit on my balcony? We talked He left and I went in to take a shower put my phone the charger Took a shower came back and I see a miss call from in a voicemail. It's like click the voicemail and It's him and he goes hey coach just left Blake's house. We had a good talk some really interesting things and I was like oh Man, I was like oh my god. I can't first of all I can't believe he fucked up that bad because that's really fucked up And second of all I was like, well fuck that. I'm never seeing that was sports psychologist I haven't even thought that was legal. I don't think it is. Okay, do you go to therapy? I do yeah, I do I Didn't my most of my career, but I have like pretty consistently lately. Yeah, yeah, I'm surprised you didn't do it for your I feel like I don't have time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but so much of it You were mealtrap. I never wear the ice buckets to the club. You ever have you heard the Mullins to another god. There's it. Oh my god. I just went blank on his name. You can stay Clay Thompson. No, no, no older guy. Well Chris Mullins Chris Mullins. Oh my god Apparently he used to go to some bar Like some kind of like dive bar after every game after every home game And he would get a giant ice bucket with like 15 beers put his feet in it and sit there and just sit People would come up and he would I always love that story Do a game hungover. Have you ever played a game slightly hungover? Yeah, it was it really fuck with you Yeah, you have of course. Yeah, I've definitely like yeah, it's uh have you ever played him? I'm not very much Yeah, yeah By the way, a lot of times when you're sick or you're hungover, you'll have like I know I didn't hungover I did very very rarely yeah, but there was one time where we were like in New York and like a Blizzard was coming in and we're like the game might get canceled But we go we go to New York and then you there's like one of those like restaurant turns into it. Yeah, and like next thing I know it's like 2 a.m. And I'm like oh my god. I get out of here. It's like go home sleep wake up See a text shoot around has been canceled. I'm like thank god So we don't have to get on the bus to go to shoot around So I just slept until we left for the game was like three or four. Do any players get high? I play perfect I play so much better. There's no possible chance I could play high me neither. Oh, we should get high and I'll play you I would be great. I do like it just for sport. Actually don't it's funny I don't get high while I make music. I don't like the feeling. I need to stay I need to stay very Now you understand the battle. Yeah, I need to stay so focused. I don't even understand how I could do it if I'm like alone creating like I can know sometimes the stress this threat You're like it's like we know it's our last day. It's like game seven We don't have like we don't the songs like not done. We don't have it like you do got a deadline for an album I don't do like a week with an artist like a cool studio or something And then like they won't be booked on that Monday, and they'll know it's like there are last chance for a lot of work On the thing they're working. Yeah, or like like like when we were doing all those Kanye albums We would where he was making them in like seven days. Yeah, it'd be like it'd be like was he really? Yeah, it'd be it'd be it'd be Started day seven zero vocals Zero zero for the whole album and we he'd be coming to be coming to the release party would be like 8 p.m That night and he'd be like I don't know how that's gonna have to be a vocal And we go like this we go like this I remember we were doing the kids see ghost one the ones with the one with kid cutie Okay, and we're sitting there and he did it like this Ghost town far away, and like you went to that one. Oh, is that the one out in like yeah? Yeah, yeah something crazy far And I'm sit and I'm sitting with yay, and it's the night before and We're like about to start recording all the vocals and he's like problem exhausted I'm exhausted and he said I'm gonna it was it was like 5 p.m. And he was like I'm gonna go sleep, I'm gonna come back at 3 a.m. And I'm gonna cut until the next day, until we do it. We had no vocals, just scratch vocals. It came back at 3 a.m. He cuts the whole thing. Where it's like 7 p.m., the thing starts at 8 p.m. We still, like, there's so much left to do. Like, I'm in this room. There's like a glass case where you are like a glass, like a glass window where you are. So you can see through. And you see guys, like, all the people that work for him, the guys have, like, two phones. You're like, you see people like yelling? And he's like, and he's like, he's like, play it again. And we're like, listening to a reborn. And he listens to his verse, and he's like, again, again. And he listens like 10 times, and we're like, and I'm like, what's he listening for? And he stands up and he's like, man, he's like, I'm fucking dope. Like, and then he's like, I just, I, he's like, I'm just not to realize how good I was. Again, and then we're, we get in the car. He's still, we're recording vocals on a laptop, on the way there, putting them into them. Like, a lot of them was recorded just on, like, sometimes it was recorded on a cell phone. And we just put it in. - He would change it the day after the day. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then we get there. And it's like those times, they're so electric, 'cause it's like, and like, for me, every time I'm turning in an album for anyone, whatever it is, I'm like, I always leave it kind until the last minute, because I like to fiddle. I like to fiddle so much. - I like you like the rock. - The rock, the pressure here. - I want the ball. - Yeah. - When it's, when it's time to go, and it's like, there's, you could pass it to anyone. I want, I want the rock, I want to shoot the three, every time 10 out of 10. - Me too, I would love to be pass the ball, and shoot it and make it. - Shoot on it. - Is there a hoop? Oh, you're the hoop. - Okay. - He's almost there. - Oh, really, can I shoot on this? - Yeah. - Who knows if it can hold a man like, yeah, dust. - Who is the hardest guy you ever had to play against? Like that, which is like, oh, I can't believe I got to play. And then I, both in terms of guarding-- - Guarding, but I also mean like fear. - Oh. - No, fear, no, man. - No, fear, no, man. - You fear, I'm a little. - I do fear. - A little bit. - A little bit. - Who does you fear? - Man, I don't, it's like a good quote. I mean, there was like really, the thing was, you like love playing against the best player. - Yeah. - So it's like, there were some guys that were just like, more physical and more like, harder to guard, that were just like, it was like, damn, that sucks. - Yeah. - But like the Tim Duncan, my first God and Dirk, and like, the Marcus Aldridge was so, he was so good. - So good, I don't need range. - That like, he was, but I loved playing against him. - Was there any kid like, you, any guy that like, just so happened, was like, his last year when you were in, that you grew up like watching every, like as a kid and you like, are playing like your hero? - Oh, yeah, I mean, don't, dude, my like, first like, real like, welcome to, welcome to the NBA moment. We're playing San Antonio in a preseason game. It's my first preseason game. And we're in San Antonio and I'm doing the court warm up early, like I talked about. - Yeah. - And I'm like, going through stuff and I turn and I look at the other end and Tim Duncan is warming up. - Well, maybe Duncan, I'll be done. - Yeah, you be done. - The nicest man of life. - You be Duncan, he is the sweetest person ever, but he's also like, you have to understand it. Since I was nine years old, I've been watching him. He's like, warming up and I turn and I literally just stopped. And I like watched him for a second. My coach was like, yo, I was like, oh, yep. - Yeah. - And it hit me in that moment that I was like, holy shit, I'm about to play against Tim Duncan. It was a preseason game. - He said anything to him like that. - He said, but did you say anything to him like? - Did you say like, you're my hero? - You know what, I was so like, can't give away an edge that like I didn't-- - Not even at the end? - Oh, no, no, first, he knows how much I-- - Tim, you watching? What about when there were like, people on the side, that any, the celebrity's on the side? - Yeah, you ever fall in love with a woman? Like when you're, like-- - Yeah, I never happened to be like-- - You're like tripping down on the side. - You fell in love with a woman. - There's definitely like when you're like, young and single and like, you know, especially in LA, like she's sitting on the board side and it gives you a little extra pamphlet. - Yeah, have you ever gotten a date off of like, when a girl sitting on the board side, and you don't have to say a name, but like, you're dribbling down and she's there and you lock eyes and you like-- - Go after her. - Yeah, not even DM, maybe go up to her. - No, he's a class act. - No. - He's a professional. - There's nothing not classy about that. - And I-- - Yeah, there's nothing, nothing not classy about that. - Wasn't it crazy going against KG, like-- - Yeah. - He was probably so intense. - Oh my god, dude, he, dude, he was, he like talks to himself, like he'll talk shit, he's, he's like, he'll like walk right by you and be like, this fucking pussy can't guard you. - He's talking to himself, so you're like, you're like-- (laughing) - You're like, am I a pussy? - Am I, am I a pussy? - You're supposed to be a pussy in the equation. - Okay, dude, he also before games, he would go, sorry, he would go, he would like, pull his jersey on, but-- - Yeah. (laughing) - He just like, what the fuck was that? - I don't know. - I don't know. - It's intimidation. - I don't know. - You just be like-- - That's the sweetest thing. - All right. - Kevin Garnett, K-T. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. - Wasn't a man so sweaty, you didn't want to like go-- I know in a pickup game, I've hated it. - Oh so many. - No, you were not noticing differences in men's sweat. - Why are you guys? - Really? - Of course you are. - You know what he said, take up the game guys. - You were saying guard in the post, and like, everyone was so sweaty. - No, no, no, no, no. - Not the same amount. - What about you? - I would change my jersey. Oh yeah. - How does that sound? - No, don't say it, don't say it. - Yeah, I don't-- - What was that? - Does Yolkage sweat a lot? - He's kind of a sweaty guy. - Yeah. - But look at SGA. Looks like he never sweats. - Yeah, yeah. - And be like-- - Yeah. - At the time it was like the foul on the sweat. All sweat. When I work out in the summer, I would take like three shirts, and I would like change shirts like during the workout. - Wow. - It's weird. - Have you ever used your sweat to your advantage? - By the way, free throw, free throw? - Yeah. - Yeah. - If the other team's shooting, the other team's shooting, so like, you know, you're the block, and you, like, I would go like this, give it back to the breath, and sometimes the ref wouldn't notice, and then you would do that. - Oh yeah. - Do you, do you, do you, - You like as a fly me? - Do anything. - Do you, are you ever like, when they're shooting, pussy? - Ah! - Like, do you ever do that, or no. No one does that, Nambia. - No, but I would always do, like, I would always kind of like. - Why would, why wouldn't someone do that at the biggest crunch time moment? - I feel like, I feel like, I feel, I feel like it's just, you would use like, you guys will talk, they'll talk to you. - Was there ever farting during like, - Yeah. - You definitely like-- - No farting, like, like, like right before the free throw. - No. - But like, there's definitely times when you're like, walking, you're like, oh, somebody's just farting. You're like, you know, there's like nine other guys, I don't know who it was. - Why is there not a guy, like, going like this, like, like, like a guy's about to shoot the free throw. And it's like, like, or like, some guy was like, pussy. - In the A/I, I never experienced it, but I'm sure, like-- - In the A/B/A, they're doing-- - I would say like, yeah, I could see like, JR Smith doing something like that. Remember when he untied the guys' shoes? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you believe there's a line, a line to cross with personal trash talk? - Yeah. - You shouldn't, like, you can't take things like, shouldn't say anything about anybody's family. - Yeah. - Like, really, like, you shouldn't in the NBA, especially because of just the word, like, you shouldn't call somebody a bitch. Like, it happens, but like-- - I feel like everyone calls that on a bitch. - Yeah, I mean-- - Have you ever done that? - No, I mean, they're all just saying-- - You never call that any bitch. - I mean, somebody will be like, yeah, boo, boo, boo. But like, I mean, that's not to say, guys definitely do. That's not like crossing the line, but it is like one of those things that will escalate-- - Yeah. - From, like, normal trash talk to, like, oh, it's like heated now. - Yeah. - It's just that you say you're a bitch. - You definitely, you can say that. But like, it will take the trash talk, it will take whatever's happening up to another level if you call somebody. - We won't see him, but isn't there, like, a Chris Paul locker room fight situation? - Yeah, that was like-- - It's all a mess. - No, no, it was like-- - Is that your theme? - So that was when CP left to go to Houston. - Right. - And we're in the locker room. CP and Austin Rivers had, like, gotten into it. I think Austin said something. - This is, this is like what I, and then so, I mean, CP was just on our team. So the way locker room at Staples Center, now Crypto, and the Clippers locker room is, like, right next to each other, there's just a hallway that separates the two. So he just went out the side door and they tried to come talk to Austin and it ended up being, like, the exact same thing you see on the court of, like, a group of us, a group of them is just like-- - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - And everybody's like, ah, ah, ah, nothing happened. It was, like, really blown out of proportion. It was in charge of the pre-game music. Like, whose iPod gets to go off? - Oh, in the locker room? - In the locker room. - Yeah, um, music depends. - Did they trust your taste? - So, okay, so pre-game locker room, you're not really playing music, but, like, wait room at the practicality and stuff, you're playing music. - Why don't you just listen to your own? Everyone has to listen to the same? - You can. - Yeah. - So in the locker room, there's usually not music guys are using their headphones, just because guys want to, but, like, practice facility and stuff. Like, yeah, I would, like-- - Is it showers in there where everyone can see everything? - Some of them. Like, home-- - Why would they still be that way? - Well, some of the home locker room, when you go on the road, 'cause the visitor locker rooms aren't nearly as nice as the home. - It's them, but yeah, it's like, let's, like, maybe you've seen all your-- - You've seen your whole team naked? - Yeah. - Yeah, I mean, at some point. - Really? - Yeah. - Oh, wow. - I mean, you kind of, like, it's unavoidable. You're in the locker room, you have to change showers. - Yeah, yeah. - I mean, there's probably, I mean-- - Wow, are there any guys who are, like, camp, where they're scared? They turn around and, like-- - Like, Tobias from the-- in the rest of the development. - Yeah, yeah. - Are there any guys who, who, you would love? - There's definitely like guys who are the best like, the best Cavalier about it. - No one's ever showered the bathing suit on that you've seen. - No, no, no. 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And you only get, 'cause it's just gross to like-- - Be around. - And you know some guys, you don't know if they're going home and showering. - Yeah. - And like, so after a game, it's like-- - It's like, did you ever have to have a talk? - Social etiquette. - And did, a coach ever have to have a talk with other players and be like, "Hey, man, you stink." - No, nobody has a player. - You need to change your decoction. - By the way, I'm sure it has happened, but nobody I ever played with. - Every time I watch an NBA game, I always feel like, it's, I can't believe they make these men. They're six, 10. - So, they're, they're, they're, they have to-- - Oh yeah, they have, they're have a, they're have a, they're have a, they're have a, they're have a, they're have a, they're have a, like, not necessarily pound or pound, but size, height wise. And we also have to move so dynamically. And we have the smallest, like, rest there. - We should have lazy boys. - Because that one's not every seat. - Yeah, every seat, all those court side seats are two to six to eight, Kate. - Are you wearing a brand new pair of shoes every game? - Almost. - Why? Isn't it better when they're worn in? - No, because the, my, I mean, if you think about like, my weight. - Yeah. - Like, I can break a pair of shoes in. And like the heat, you know, from your foot, like, break a pair of shoes in. Like, break a pair of shoes in. - Oh, break a pair of shoes in. - Now, you can break them in so easily. - Yeah. - They're like, once I go out and do my 30-minute warm-up and do my lift, and then go out for warm-ups again, the shoes completely broken in. - You never have, at your level, you weren't, like, ever annoyed. Like, you would never, like, get in fights with your coach about, like, play time, right? Like, that doesn't happen at all. - Not really playing time. - But, like, as I guess I got old, like, yeah. I mean, you got, I mean, that happens all it's guys are, most guys are a little bit upset about their playing time. - Unless you're a starter, well, top two or three starters, usually they're playing enough where you're, like, doesn't matter. But everybody else below that, I mean, you, it's basketball, you want to play. - Yeah. - And so it's, like, it's kind of like, it's not a bad thing. It's like a healthy, as long as you're having a healthy conversation about it. - Who do they complain to, like, that-- - I mean, yeah, you'll talk to coaches. You'll talk to, maybe, maybe your agent will call the GM, like, general manager, or like-- - Your season that you probably had the least time was, what, Celtics, or something? - Yeah. - And that was, like, the only year that you ever experienced that level of playing time, right? - Yeah, the year before in Brooklyn, I was, like, kind of in and out a little bit. But-- - Was that, like, was it enjoyable? Still to be a part of an NBA team and watch playing, was it just, kind of, torture? - Yeah, it's fun being with the guys, but yeah, sometimes torture a little bit, like, just, like, being like, I wish I could be out there, you know? - Can't you say it, can't you? - No, but you also have to be, like, self-aware and be, like, at that point in my career, I was like, yeah, I mean, there's better, there's guys that can, you know, so it's-- - Wait, is there any guy in the bench that never plays? - Oh, yeah. - Yeah, so much. - Multiple. - And they show up every day and they see it out there, and they wait. - Yeah, yeah. - There's some guys, there's a guy that they-- - They're getting paid a lot. - Yeah, there's some guys, there's some guys that get to play, that they have on the team, just, like, for almost, like, moral support. Like, what was that guy that got back on the-- - Wasn't the NITS or someone-- - That's sweet. - They brought someone-- - Charge Gibson? - Might have been, like, an older, it was recently, they brought back an older guy, just-- - Yeah, it's called locker room guy. - Yeah. - So it's, like, an older vet, who's, like, especially younger teams need, like, somebody older, who's a good guy, and, like-- - Yeah, you didn't know that. - Don't know this house. - That is the sweetest, the most team-spirited thing I've ever heard. - Okay. - How come it's so common in basketball? Well, you're really feeling the game. - Yeah, I feel it. - You feel good? - You just put a ball on this guy's hands, he can't stop. He can't stop. I did notice when you stood up, though, your knee made a sound. - It made a sound. - It made a sound. - It was a click. - Did it hurt? - Both of them. - No, I don't hear that. - I heard it twice. - But my knee is crack. - Both time standing. - Oh, my ankle's knees. - Do you eat so much? You're so tall. I was just thinking about this. - You eat so much. - I was just thinking about it. - I used to eat a lot more. - Like, when you're, like, playing games, are you eating, like, 8,000 calories? - I have a real-- - Like, 6,500 calories, isn't it? - Yeah, yeah, like-- - 6,500 calories. - Yeah, like, if you're playing a game, after a game-- - Maybe 7,000. - All right, and does it have to be healthy? - That sounds fun. I mean, it doesn't have to be, but it helps. - Isn't there, like, some NBA player who says all he eats is, like, Sour Patch Kit? What was the-- - Oh, who was Lamar? - Lamar? - Oh, yeah, yeah, a lot of candy. - Yeah. - Jamal Crawford, he won't mind me. Sure, he's, like, a candy. He would get on the plane with, like, a bag of just, like, just candy all in the bag. It's, like, he got, like, his iPad headphones candy. - When I first met Bill Yachty, he drank, like, seven to 10 sodas a day, and it only candy. And then, one time, he-- I think I still have the voice note. He called me so proud that he said he stopped, he said he hadn't had any sodas or any sugar water. And, like, water was sugar in it. He said, for the last two months, and he was so proud. I still have a video of-- - He probably felt so much better. - Yeah. - You changed Yachty's life. - I might have. - I love seven. I want to see if I have it. - Look for it. - I will. You guys talk amongst-- - Seven sodas is a lot of sodas. - I mean, your teeth would rot out. - What you guys just go to, carbonated beverage? - I mean, for me, I got no choice, but to go with olipop. - Okay, I'd like to play you. - It almost slipped my mind, and I almost forgot to tell you, I was just watching my boat show episode that I'm about to release the one. - Oh, wait. - I'll just start when what you'll be I'll have a little piece of our session in it, but I haven't had soda or juice since three weeks ago. Maybe when I saw you last time I had some, I think I drunk only water every single day. I lost about 12 pounds myself. - Yeah. - It's flourishing. That is bitch you'll ever meet. I just want to say this to you so you know. - That's sweet of you. - Sincerely. No soda, no freshness. - So genuine, that's it. - Is it crazy how much weight people can lose in their life? - I'm just drinking. - I'm just drinking cow. - Yeah. - It's just like so much. - Do you guys eat healthy? - No. - I do. - He says he eats, I get like from the garbage. - You know, every, yeah, like every, no. - One of my best friends from back home, the one I was telling you about, living with me, eats like chicken tenders and pizza. - Oh, I mean, that's all he eats. - It's like super bowl every meal. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah, that's it. - Ten wings! - Ten wings are here. - It was this birthday. - And we said we're gonna cook you all your favorite things. What are your favorite things? Here was the menu. It was chicken tenders. - Oh, they're panko. Buffalo chicken wing dip. - Oh. - Oh. - It is very good. - Cheese sticks and calzones. - And it's Caesar salad. - We were all like sick after, like, our time. - Oh, Caesar salad and dry cakes. We didn't get it for him, but he requested dry cake. - I love dry cake. - What is dry cake? - I don't know. - I just don't like spicy thing. - Oh, yeah. - Maybe there was a thin layer, but-- - Do we have-- - Oh, boy, it's, you don't like moist. - I like, pretty relaxed, but like for the most part, I'll try, I would call it like 70, 30. - What? - Are you like a-- - Healthy to like, are you a foodie? - I love food. - Yeah. - Are you gonna take off today? What are you gonna do next? - Yeah, what's your day like? - Yeah, I'm gonna go on a Malibu. - You spend more time in Malibu? - That's what I was gonna ask. - We spend a decent amount of time in Malibu. Like if I don't have the kids or the kids are not with me. - Well, like, I gotta tell you, you are just an absolute pleasure of a man. - Dude, this is great. - You're so personable, like, you're like our same type of, I mean, not-- - We would have been friends. - Yeah, yeah, like, I think it's a friend. - We are, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna say, what happened to you? Can you make friends at 37, 38? Respectively? - I think if we all went to the same school, we'd be like in the same circle. - I hung out more with my friends. - Wait, what grade were you? What grade you were in? - 07 high school. - 06. - 06. - 06. - 06. - Older guy. - You guys were in the grade box. - Maybe you would, like, have looked up to a guy like me. - I would have looked up to a guy like me. - He's kind of looked up to a guy like me. - The seniors. - Yeah, the seniors and me were juniors. - We would have been proud of you. - Yeah, thank you. - Oh, yeah, I'm really proud of you guys. - I want another group play. - I don't think it's gonna ball or fun. - What a great close. - Dude, you're so fun. (upbeat music)