The Bethenny Frankel Episode

♪ ♪ - Bethany Frankel. ♪ ♪ - Nothing rhymes with ankle. - What is it? Ankle rhymes with Frankel. - Oh! ♪ We love our friends ♪ - So, I want to propose something. I don't know if you know this, but Bethany has a beautiful home in the Hamptons. - I don't know anything about-- - How would we know that? - She's a friend of mine, but. I don't know about, like, staying at her house brand yet, but I love the Hamptons, would love to go with her. I really think I might just go online and book a home on Airbnb for the Hamptons, so we can, like-- - I like this. - It's, like, less aggressive. - Yeah, it's a nice-- - Less aggressive. - Like, we can weasel our way. - It's a nice strategic way to be like, "Hey, Bethany, "I know we only met once. "Come over. "We'll host you." - Ooh, I like hosting. You know, I'm gonna make sure I get a home that's got, like, a big kitchen so we can walk around the island. She loves cooking. I just think it's a way to get in-- - It's a good way in. - It's the worst way in. You think that it's normal? - It's not. - It's a book? - Everyone goes to the Hamptons. It's a very popular place. - Yes. - It's a very fun place to go and rent. It's so normal. - There is one-- There's one thing we have to do. - I don't know a lot about the Hamptons. - Let me tell you. - What? - Let me tell you. If you're an avid Hamptons goer, there's one thing we do have to do. - Water ski. - No. We have to find out strategically what town she's in. And because it's a big space. - It is? - It's a big space. - Not only that, you gotta find the street she lives on. - No, no, we don't need to be that close. - It's drivable. - Oh, so you're not saying what I thought you were saying. - We need to be same town. Preferably, I'd like to be on the same street. But I don't-- Preferably, I'd like to be next door. But I'm not. Who knows? - This is our move. We get to know her. And then at the end, we, you know, befriend her. And then we say, "Funny. Funny that you live in the Hamptons." - You don't like it? You don't have to come. I mean, we can come. I got friends. This place can host so many people. - But don't be too aggressive about it 'cause we want her to like us. - What about like going out to dinner with her after we finish this? - We can do that too. - Let's start with things like that. I love Airbnb and what a platform they-- - But I wanna go to the Hamptons. - Okay, well, why don't we just book the home on the Ham-- Why don't we just-- Why don't we just get-- Why don't we just go on Airbnb and book our own home in the Hamptons? And we can go and we don't even need this bozo to come. - We can also just do this for fun. - Is it normal to wear silk? - It is normal, but more linen. - Linen. - Oh. - You got linen? - And you look good in linen. It really drapes nicely on your body. Is that linen? - You're saying I would look good in the Hamptons? - You would. - You would. - You actually would. You're an East Coast boy. - You have a good body. - I would look good in the Hamptons. - You're an East Coast boy. - Red skin tone. You're too pasty for the Hamptons. - I'm excited to meet her. - Sounds like you're real excited. - Hi. - She's here. - Hi. - Did you create the skinny margarita? - I invented the skinny margarita. - No, you did not. - Are you like Michael Jordan to Jewish women? - It's okay to say something wrong, do something wrong, say something politically incorrect. - Why eat it then? You're disqualified. - Whatever, I'm gonna go pee. - How come you look good and I look terrible? - That's the way of life. - You know we've never done cocaine? - Right, so I have. So I have. - That's such a good-- - And honest. - This is good. - That's like the best sound bite. Okay, so she does these things called like chicken salad reviews. - I've seen 'em. - And she tastes all the chicken salads in the world. - Yes. - And I've had most of the chicken salads. Usually I agree with her opinion on them, sometimes not exactly. And I love it when she makes a chicken salad and she confesses that it's really not a true, a true great one sometimes. - No, yeah. - She'll say it's like a seven three. Like I'm down with that. What's your favorite chicken salad that you've had so far? - My favorite would probably be-- it might be Gigi's, it might be-- - No, in L.A. - In L.A., I can't answer. I haven't had a great one. I haven't had a great chicken. What would you say? - I don't know. Should we find the best chicken salad? - We're gonna do a chicken salad review. This is my favorite thing ever. - Actually, do you know what I wanna do right now? - I'm sorry. - I want you to show me your best supermodel snack. I'm gonna order all the ingredients right now. - The best one? - Yeah. - Okay, the best-- - Wait, I'm gonna open up a thing and you're gonna order all the ingredients. - The noises, I have to say, have I ever told you this? When you eat the-- I get your content a lot 'cause I love TikTok. - Okay. - And I'll get the-- - Did you say TikTok? - No. - Sorry, TikTok. - TikTok. - You said it very-- - English. - I thought you said TikTok. - What happens? Tell me what happens. - I love the noises. - When I get excited? - No, just all of the noises. When the-- - The ASMR? - I think maybe. - Really? - Wait, I have to put it to my house. - Okay. - This is literally my Bible. I'm in there all day long. - I have to put it to my house. - Psychotic. - Or to this house. - Okay, I'm just doing my Instacart order? - Yeah, and you're-- - Am I moving in here? How long are we gonna be here, four hours? - You can move in. - Okay. - No, I need you-- - Do you have a hard out? - No, don't worry about it. - Okay. - You do have a hard out? - No, no. - You doing something fun? You have any guy that I'm seeing? No, we're going, no, we're good. Don't worry. - He can come over, we can hang out with him. - Just tell me if we're here past 6:30 'cause I have to tell somebody. Let me just tell my friend to text me. - Okay. - Uh, Chris, let me just text Chris, hold on. Okay, you want the best turkey salad? - No, no, no, you're making a supermodel snack. Stick with the program. - Why is it a supermodel snack? - 'Cause it's lean. - It's a supermodel snack because I was, 'cause I do eat a bit like a dumpster and I was preparing for the Sports Illustrated swim show and I was trying to just like do a little better and not be a total animal. - Yeah. - And I started making these and it went totally viral. It was like unexpected. - You look good, you look great. - Andrew Luttman just texted. - Who cares? - Okay, fuck that guy. Okay, rice cakes. - What? - I feel like you're always looking for like a quick snack fix. Like that's healthy. - You'll definitely like it. - He's not looking for the same type of snack. - No, he does. Like you'll eat like Styrofoam because you feel like you can still experience a snack, but it's low calorie. - We're gonna make it even more supermodel 'cause I'm gonna do brown rice. - Oh, the brown rice cake. - Yeah, brown rice cake. That's one. Okay, we have to do-- - I like rice cakes. - Big tomatoes. - You ever had, you ever had Fincrisp? - Yes, it's like, it's like Doody Crackers. - Yeah. - Large tomatoes. - Doody Crackers? - They're just fiber, it's not food. That's not food. - Doody Crackers. - Those aren't food. - Wow. - They don't have everything bagel seasoning online here. I'm gonna get truff instead. - No, it's not better. - It is better. - No, it's not. - Well, it's not your recipe. - He's a poor eater. - Excuse me. - You guys are so funny. This is a funny group. - Do you primarily live in New York? - I live in Florida now. - Huh. - Florida. - Which I love. - Why did you go to Florida? - Because I love to walk on the beach every day and go swim in the ocean and it's a better life for my daughter. - What's your life story in 60 seconds? - Well, that's a tough answer. - Life story in 60 seconds is- - Just like Cliff notes. - Grew up at the racetrack in a very like hustler, inappropriate environment. - Racetrack you said? - Yeah, yeah. Multiple different homes. Then my place of wounding is lack of success in relationships. I'm a good mom. I'm an entrepreneur. I'm a philanthropist. And I prioritize fun and laughing first. - You come in the right place. - My girl. - And you had two husbands? - Yes. - So, okay. First husband. How old were you? - 26. - Okay. And how long did that last? - That, I don't remember. Not long, not long. Both were probably- - Conscious uncoupling? - Less than two years. No, that first one was like, it didn't even happen. The first one made, the second one was a two year marriage and then a 10 year horrible, horrendous, worst of my life divorce. - How old were you in the second one? - Like late thirties, almost 40. - Do you have kids? - I have a daughter. I have a girlfriend, so sweet. - So are you cool with the husband of the daughter? - Not exactly. Not exactly. - But you can co-exist? No? - We do co-exist on this earth. We do both exist on this earth, so that's positive. - And does your daughter, she has a good relationship with both of you guys? - My daughter, it's been a strained year. It's been a challenging year. There were a lot of circumstances that have been, that are, that are like too, too much for the, like honestly, like torture, so. - For you at, yeah. - Yeah, like traumatic, like not garden variety. 10 years on a two year marriage and like every single branch on the tree. - How old were you when you had her? - Um, I was, well she's, I think I was four, almost 40, like 39, 40. - That's my, that's what I'm aiming for. - Yeah. - But hopefully we last. - What if, last? Ooh, my voice cracked. We're gonna last forever. - How did you guys meet? - A mutual friend. - Yeah, there was a-- - Like a set up? - Not, well, half, kind of. - Yeah. - Not really. There was a writer on my TV show who was friends with her and I was always saying, "Set me up with your friends." And one night she was bowling with her and she realized-- - After a really bad breakup. - Yes. - Your really bad breakup. - I went through it, yeah. - She's only been single for one month in her entire life. - We have a dating community, a dating concept that's exploding right now. Literally, it's the best thing ever. - Wait, actually? - Yeah, it's a membership dating community and it's not, it's so smart and so intentional. - Hold on, hold on, one second. - Tell us about it. - One second, before you tell us about it. - Where could he possibly be? - Mom? - Yeah. - Come over here. - Oh, 'cause he wants to set her up. How old is she? - Come down here real quick. - 72. - Hold on, hold on, hold on. She's gotta know all about this. - Can we make phone calls from here? - Yeah, yeah. - My mom has been-- - I've been dying to hear this. - Oh, she's been talking about the dating community? - Oh my God, my mom, it's all she, you're the only-- - I want to be a part of it. - You're the third word out of her mouth every day. - Really? - I keep saying, I have to hear-- - Is that how you found me or you found me on your own? - I knew about you since I was younger. - I've been talking about you forever. - My mom has been preaching your gospel since like years, 10 plus years. - Before you ever were, really? - Like your little muffins, your cookies, ever. - Thank you, wow, that's old school. - Old school. - And you never left? - No, never left. - Like you always liked me even through any bullshit? - Never left, yes. - And then I kept getting-- - 'Cause she knows about the divorce. She knows it's like-- - She knows everything. - But I don't know about the dating thing 'cause you didn't say what it is. It's like a secret. - Right, it has been a secret and now I'm kind of-- - But I wanna be a part of it so how do I-- - I know, I gotta call Patty and ask her if we have some-- - Then I kept getting served from my friends and stuff where you were talking about me and how I like, something with Selena and like how I treat-- Oh, no, I said, oh, no, I said, if they don't last, I can't take this risk. It felt so good. We are, it's real. It's not for TV. It's like, she's like my best fucking friend in the world. How did you guys meet? I'll tell you about the dating thing in a minute. I know you want to hear. We met about almost 20 years ago. Long game. What? Oh, because the end. She's been selling stuff for a while. You're a music producer. You write it or like you do this? Both, both, both. All of it. So you're, are you working all the time producing people's music? Like, is that everyday job? Like, I don't know how this works. Not, not, not anymore. I've, I'm like, uh, kind of like. You burnt out of it? No, I'm kind of, I, I kind of retired from doing that in like 2018, 19. And then I do it if it's like a pie in the sky opportunity. Like a special project that's interesting. Like, like, like, like SZA was like such a special project to me. So I was like, oh, I'm going to do that. Okay. Or, or. You're, you're. Or Dave. Or me. And I do all his music. You're, you're on TV. You're, wait, I thought you were on a TV show. I don't know anything. I literally don't know anybody. Oh, because he's on his show. It's great. You should see it. Wait, what? You have a TV show? He did. And he's a rapper. Dave. On Hulu. It's great. Oh, I thought you, no, I don't know. I don't, but that doesn't mean anything that I haven't seen it. Please don't take it personally. Yeah, please. Check it out. I live out my own ass. You'll love it. So then, and then he's also a musician with like big songs as an artist. Oh, wow. Yeah, as a rapper. Really? Really? Saxophone. Wow. No, I'm just kidding. Freaky Friday. Just rapping. What? Freaky Friday was a big. Okay, tell us about the dating. So it's called The Core, and it is a private membership dating community. And it is not an app. Well, no, it's not yet an app. It is not matchmaking. It's basically what you put into it, you get out of. And so it started because, and I'm cagey about like how much I talk about the way it works from behind. So only because of like, it's like a secret. It's like a secret sauce and a recipe that's working so well. So I don't, I'm going to say certain things, but I hope I don't give it away. Basically, dating is, women, there are a bunch of myths. Men only want younger women. That's false if you're intentional and want a relationship. So to be in this, you have to want a life partner right now. Okay, you have to want a life partner right now. If you're in your 30s, you have to want a life partner and to have kids right now. So you have to want a partner. And there have been people that have said they want to be part of it. She's 70 something. But you want a life partner. You want a life partner. No, for the 30s. Oh, okay. And I'm like, I want to be part of your dating concept. And even celebrities. Like, you have to be so intentional, so transparent, and you can get kicked out at any time. How? How? By fucking a girl, not calling her the next day. By ghosting someone. Do they report to you? It's a community. So basically, if you come in and you give the five grand, but you don't refer to people, you have to be working it. You have to want it, and you have to be a good person. And if multiple people have said something about you that tracks and is vetted, you won't be. You'll be asked to leave. So basically, it's also about alignment. It's not about checking a box and just matching people. Because a lot of the people in here have been with matchmakers, and they say it's the single greatest waste of money they've ever had. Because it's just spaghetti against the wall and arbitrarily matching. This is like, we'll hold until the person really is teed up for you. And also, you'll review once you meet someone, and it's always a 9 out of 10, at least, where someone says the accuracy of what they were served. Like, you want this type of person. You tell us your top three things. You tell us your deal breakers. You tell us your religion, your geography. You have to stick to it. We're not going to push you to be like, well, she's in Ohio, but we're not serving you that because you didn't order that. So whatever you wanted, and like, let's say you are 65, and then there's someone who's 41, but someone comes in that's closer to your age, you'll be shown to them first because it's harder for you at your age to meet someone. But someone else wants a Democratic Jew, and that person comes in. You're not, like, just giving them to this person. It's very, very specific. So it's working very well because it's very, like, intentional. We don't break any of the rules. You take Apple Pay? The reason it's catch-or-release is that I was dating, and I was meeting amazing men, but they might be, like, one puzzle piece shy for me. It could be geography. It could be how many kids. It's your own business. And women gatekeep men, and it makes no sense. It makes no sense. If a guy wasn't like you, didn't like you, you liked him, he didn't like you, you're not usually inclined to, like, say to him about your friend, and you're not usually inclined because it's like women have egos, and they feel insecure. It feels like you're not good enough for this person. And the thing is, you could live on the same block as someone your age, and the man who's for you is not for her. For one little tweak, like, it's just not the same. So women shouldn't be like that. So it opens it up because you're excited about that guy because he wasn't for you, but you're excited to put him in because you put him in, you're going to get more out. So it's like you're getting more than what you put into the community. What if you try to put someone in, and it's like. Then you're out. No, have you ever, like, let's say my mom was like, I got this guy to put in, and you see him, and you're like, oh, this guy's not. Because he's not. He's not at the level. He's like a Yelp review because she has to tell us it has to be accurate to what she said. Oh, it's very involved? It's very involved. And it's very involved. It has to be. The person has to be served what they got, or she would get kicked out. And you can't filter your photos. Now, are you, like. You're such an eligible bachelorette. Are you, like, getting so many dates? Like, when you were saying. I'm doing pretty well. It sounds like you're not having any trouble. And, like, are the. Like, what type. Yeah, I want to know what your type is. I need an entrepreneur. Not just a rich person, and not just a business person, because I thought they were always the same. Can he be poor, but working at it? But he's got to be an entrepreneur? No, she won't be with poor. He can't be poor? I don't think so. Mom goes, she can't be with poor. Wait, why does he have to be an entrepreneur? Because I'm an entrepreneur, and entrepreneurs are idea hamsters. And they are constantly. What if he was, like, a director? If he has to be entrepreneurial. It's just like. Like, you want him to be. What does that mean? He has to start businesses? You're constantly executing ideas, and you're sharing them, and it's like a. Okay, so a director works. I guess, yes. Yeah. But a part of your world is kind of always coming up with new ideas and new businesses, and you want someone to share that with? Yeah, I like someone, and I like someone who has to be somewhere to do something. Does he have to be rich? I think so. He does? I think so. Why? Because it becomes uncomfortable. But you're rich. Yes, but then it becomes uncomfortable. It becomes uncomfortable, and there's a disparity. No, but what if he has, like. He makes good money, but he's not, like, rich. But he's not rich. I don't know. It becomes uncomfortable for them, and I've done it before. Yeah. What if you know it's not uncomfortable for him? You can't know, and it is. What if it's a special world where you're 100% sure. Then it's okay. Then it would be okay. If he just makes, like, okay money. It's not about the money. It's about the emasculation. No, and you know there's no. You know he's the most secure man in the world, but he makes 100 grand a year. No, what you said is so true. It comes up. It's like they're castrated. But I'm telling you that I'm telling you in this world it doesn't. They don't measure up. We got to find the one fucking unicorn. Yeah, this is a fake world. I made this world up. Yeah, I live in the real world. It's not. Yeah. Guys, the warmth on my lap right now. I mean, it feels like I'm in the Caribbean or something. You know, everyone's upstairs. I can't even wait. This thing tastes so good. Oh, look at this pizza. The. Oh, the. Mmm. Domino's crunchy thin crust pizza. It's the best thing on planet Earth. I don't care. I don't care what anyone says. I couldn't even wait for the ad. I mean, I guess this thing could be an ad. Now that we're talking ads. The Domino's app is the best thing in the world. All you have to do is you go and you press your order one time. And if you're like me and you get the same exact thing every time, you just go on, click one button, it's at your doorstep. You don't even have to talk to another human being. I love you, Domino. Can I tell you something? Yeah. I. You're so cute. You're like childlike as an adult. It's amazing. I am too. I get it. But you're like. I'm like a big kid. Like, I'm always excited about everything. Yeah, I'm stoked. I mean, yeah. When I knew I wanted to settle down, like, because I was like, I don't want to be one of these guys who's 40, 45, still going to the club, still doing this. And with my therapist, I made a list of exactly what I wanted. Bingo. And I made. And they were such normal, easy things. But I made a list. And then literally, like, two months later, and I cut off. I cut off any other girl I was talking to. I stopped, like. Good. You went clean. I cut it off. I stopped, like, having casual encounters. Like, I stopped hanging out with girls I knew I wouldn't be with. And right when I did that, without even noticing, Selena came into my life, and she fit exactly my thing. But you always make fun of me when I have things. You go, what, the guy whistled? No, no, no. But my mom goes like this. My mom will come back. She'll go, I went on a date. This guy whistles. Who whistles? No. That's a trigger. That's an itch. That's an itch. No, he was so icky. That's an itch. And my mom will go, my mom will go, this one guy kept winking at me. No, it wasn't just that. She goes, who winks? This other guy winked. He was winking. His place was filthy. He had a million things. There were a million things. But what you said, I did a plan. I did a nine-month celibate thing, and it works because you're not eating junk food. You're waiting for the good thing. I did a year one time. I don't need to settle. He's so cute. I love him. I don't want to settle. You guys are very cute. Yeah, they're so cute. I love you. Aren't they the best? They're the best. I want to be friends with you guys. We can be friends in real life. Yeah, you guys are so cute. Why don't we become friends? I feel the same way about you. Really? For sure. You guys love me already? Yeah, I was a little hesitant before you. Well, because. I wasn't. I was waiting for a girlfriend. I was telling you. I was looking forward to this because you're approachable and warm. Let me tell you, as someone who had zero preconceived notions about you, I'm not as familiar. You have no opinion. I know nothing about you. The same way you know nothing about me, I know nothing about you. But I know instantly how much I love you. Oh my God, this is like a full. Yay! I do. You know, I think there might be a Jewish thing involved on just like a personality level. Yes, I love it. You're very sweet. Are we best friends? Yes. We're on the same wavelength. Why is it called Friends? I thought it was inspired by like a reality version of Friends. Oh no, Friends was Keep Secrets. That was just his. Well, doesn't it feel like. it is kind of a reality version of Friends? No, it's not a reality show. I would argue this. We don't like it. A reality show, you know, we know that you're going to go to the restaurant today. They're set up. They go through the drama. Well, that's the sad part because that's what a reality show became and should be. She's on a reality show. No, but I used to say, I swear on everything, I used to say, let's do real. This was how I was on reality because this is not how everybody else was because they'd be like, why don't you lay in the bed with the big. I'd be like, why don't we do real? Ask any producer who ever used me. But even independent of that, have you ever seen a reality show that was really living in real time? It was always kind of paced out over the course of telling a story. This is just a real-time vignette. But the essence was the same. You're in semantics. I'm telling you, this is the way. Well, the devil is in the details. I'm sorry. This is the way a real reality show should be, but they never were. Sounds like it's what it should be, and it's not. Yeah, I've never seen it. It's not a reality show. When you're going to be asked that, how you have to respond to it is, this is not a reality show. It's a reality. We're not going to be asked that. Why? No, because it's in the podcast lens. The way that it's. It's going to be called, technically, like people will view this as a podcast. I get what you're saying. What we're doing. It doesn't feel like a podcast, though, does it? No. Not at all. Don't you love this? It feels like an episode. Are you having fun? Yeah, it feels like a modern-day version of the real world. Well, how about we sit on the couch? Yeah. Let's do it. All right, we love you, Mom. Love you, Sandy. I swear to God, I feel like I'm on the set of Friends. That's why when you said the name, it feels like you're so cute. Huh. I literally feel like I'm on the set of Friends. Look at the outfit. Shh. Shh. Do you go to sleep ever and you're like, oh, fuck, I wish I would say that? I didn't say that sometimes. Like, when I came in here, he told me that there was a question that should be, that we shouldn't, the one thing we shouldn't talk about is Meghan Markle because I've talked about her. And the truth is, like, I, Meghan Markle seems like a very nice person. Yeah. I'm a person that speaks about, like, decisions people make and business. Like, I don't know Meghan Markle anymore than I know Harry, and they both seem like lovely, nice people. I don't know them anymore than I knew him or Selena Gomez. You know, I know nothing about either one of them. But the point is, sometimes I'll discuss, like, oh, God, why did they make that decision? Yeah. And, like, I comment on it, but because the press is so curated for clicks, but they're business people. Just like a paparazzi's a business person. Just like, I don't really care that much. But sometimes, I swear, when we were sitting over there and I was thinking that you reminded me of him, I was thinking, I don't think I'm ever gonna, I think I have to find a way to never talk about a celebrity again because the fact that you guys had seen my content about your relationship with Selena, like, you kind of just say things and you think you're just talking to your people. Yeah, but you get promoted a lot. I think that you speak about celebrity culture in a way that, like, like, girlfriends or friends would speak about it and you are on a public platform and then you get promoted for it. And I think, and this is literally, like, I don't know any of these people personally. I didn't know you. I liked what you said about me. Yeah, but she said a good thing about you. No, but this is, so this is the point. If I had said, I'm sure there's a blush of Selena's I've said it wasn't the best or something, like, I think that we take things so personally where it's okay to say something good, something not great, as long as you're not character assassinating. I would have thought it was so funny if you said something about me where you're like, like, before, if I found out before this interview that you said, like, oh my God, that guy's, like, idiot or something. Like, I, when you came on here, I'd be like, I heard you say something. No, that's what you mean, though. Like, like, I don't care, but I don't care about that stuff. I don't care about that stuff either. I am not, you can't, you can't break me down. You could only break me down if you were, like, my good friend. It's not breaking you down. And you said something, like, no, no person who doesn't know me could ever say anything about me that would rattle me. I don't think that's true. Only, only a friend, like, only a friend or something like that, because I don't care. I'd be like, that person doesn't even know me. But she brings up a good point about regretting things that you say. Like, I, I'm watching a television show and having an opinion of characters. You're not a real person to me until today. So when I'm looking at Taylor and Travis, I'm only assessing what I saw in a moment. And I swear today, because of you guys, I'm thinking of it differently, because I thought, I thought that Travis was, like, bro-ing out and that they're both peacocks and there couldn't be two peacocks. I've been proven wrong. I'm happy that they're in love. And I was wrong. Like, it's okay to have, to opine, but I guess it's not okay to opine, because then, but we all entered, we entered the entertainment industry and we know that, like, people are going to talk about us. Like, you can't get all the accolades and all the houses and all the things that you have and not have, like, it be. I see both sides. But you're not up at night. You're not sitting at night being like, oh, fuck. Like, I wish I didn't get perceived that way. I feel like, oh, fuck. I feel like you have a strong sense of self. No, I'm not. Which I think is really, like, it's inspirational to people, for people to watch you be, like. They do say that. Women do say that. To be bold enough to be, like, these are my thoughts, these are my opinions. What are you insecure about? I don't really, like, to her point, I will think once in a while, like, I wish, I don't want to, I don't actually want to hurt someone's feelings at all. I really don't. Let me tell you. I would have no problem tweeting about just, like, art. And then I realize, then I think, oh, my God, like, that, like, 200 people, worked on that thing, and so, of course, I see your point completely, and saying something positive, no harm in that ever, in my opinion. It's just saying the negative thing, because someone might not know you say a negative thing about the way that you spoke about something without knowing you, and maybe you'd be like, that's offensive. But the reason I was good on reality TV is because I'm unfiltered, and it's okay to say something wrong, do something wrong, say something for the language. Yeah, I agree with that. I agree with that completely. It's like, I was wrong about Travis and Taylor, from my perspective. I agree. That's okay. Yeah. I might be wrong about, I'm not wrong about, Peggy Markle's decisions, but I'm, I, I, people perceive it as me not liking them. What's, I don't not like them. I'm sure they're lovely people. I'd love to have dinner with them and say the best thing ever. I've said, I'm friends with Lauren Sanchez, and I've said things about her on my podcast for years, and, like, then we connected. Like, it's okay to kind of. It's a catch-22, because I think your brand represents, like, a humanity in a way that you're allowed to speak what you think you're allowed to say. More than other people. More than other people, but I also think, then, the most people look at public people, and they think, you know you're public. They know, you know you have a platform, so then you have to take that into consideration, and I think, at the end of the day, it's really just about being a fucking human. But I'm also, I'm, I'm, I was the Greek chorus on Housewife. I'm talking to the people. Like, I'm talking to them. I think you are. I do, I believe that. And it's not intentional, but it's like, I relate to them more than I relate to this. That's how I've always felt about you. Yeah, so I, I don't even. We're having a conversation. I could be wrong. We're gossiping. We're talking, and some other people might get caught in the crossfire, and I apologize to them, but I'm talking to these people. Even seeing you here, I'm like, oh, she, like, is not afraid to, like, be who she is. Like, even around the people that I'm around every day. You're so, but by the way, you're doing it right now. You're being so honest and vulnerable by saying that. I wanted to know, just because I, like, I just, like, don't know the world now. Like, when you go outside, are you, like, are you, like, stopped constantly? I'm stopped a lot by regular people. Like, a lot. Okay, that's all I want. Yeah, but not, it's not, if I, if, like, you had to say someone was A-list, like, attacked and, like, swarms, I would say I'm probably, like, a B, but it depends on where you are. If you go out every day, many people are stopping you. Oh, yeah. If it's, like, regular America, it's a lot. There's, like, 40, 50 people that are stopping you a day if you were outside for the day. If I was, like, free-range chicken? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Do you, as a woman, do you have, like, security or no? Yeah. Oh, you do? Yeah. Like, when you go out? Because I don't, I'm not vain, and I don't, like, my value is not based on how I look at all. Yeah. That's cool. How'd you get there? I don't know, because it's, like, what does that have to do with security? What does that have to do with security? It's, like, fighting water. It's, like, taking on water. You mean financial security? No. No. Security guard. You said, what does vanity have to do with. Oh, I thought you meant am I secure? No, no, no. Oh, it's gotten more crazy in the last year. What was your dream as, like, a child? Wait, what made it get more crazy? My social media, like, craziness that you get. So did social. Did you just really take off on social media this past year or two? I was in a large niche without my medium. Yeah, I never knew about TikTok, and this guy told me about it, and he was just like, hey, if you want to get your music big, you have to get big on TikTok. And he was like, this platform is built for you. There's not, like. He was like, there's no place where you're gonna shine more. When was this? In the beginning? This was in, like, 2020 I got on TikTok. I was told it would never be for you. You wouldn't. You wouldn't be good for it. And so I was. That was before the people that were the biggest on it. I should have started then. This is why I love TikTok is because I do fully believe that TikTok will redefine. Like, TikTok is a thing of the people. I hate that we're talking about it. It's like, it's not. It's about being authentic and real. It's not about, like, the big companies. It's not about. It's, like, truly, like, the first time that entertainment is in the hands of the people as being the person. By the way, it's citizens. I always say TikTok is. So Instagram is the Marriott lobby. You're wearing lanyards. Someone might say a funny joke. Someone might do something off-color. And, you know, a celebrity walks in and everyone's kissing their ass. TikTok is people with tassels on their titties and they will throw a celebrity right off the fucking roof. They don't give a shit. You can't, like. You can't get them to like you just for being famous. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. And I love. It's great. You get served what you like and what you like. You get to see a community of people that also like the same thing and I feel like it's. TikTok has changed my life. The thing about TikTok that was crazy is at the beginning when I first got on, I like. I remember what happened. So my friend came over and he was like, I'm just gonna film you. I didn't even have the app for like the first few years. And he was like, I'm gonna film you and we're gonna put up three videos and I'm telling you. And we did it. We put up three videos and they got like a thousand views and I'm like, dude, I'm like, I'm not doing this thing. I did the same thing. It was weird because you didn't understand it. And then I woke up the next morning and my friend called me and he goes, I fucking told you. And I said, you told me what? And he goes, go on your TikTok. And like the first day. When was this? 2020 or something. The first day I got TikTok, the first night I got 600,000 followers and I got like. What? Yeah, yeah. This was like when it was explosive. the app and I got because it was one lane it wasn't yeah and I had I put up three videos and like the first one got like a million second one got like 10 million and then the first the next one got like a million and then at the beginning I didn't really understand TikTok so I was just like doing the things and then one day I just started talking on my TikTok and then that's when it like exploded I hate to break it to you you're very good on TikTok I just and I don't see it that much but like you're very good on it I'm like well I want to watch and I didn't even know who really you were I but like I don't watch your TikTok well I just started the thing and then I was like and then I I kept meeting people in real life and they were just like I love your TikTok because it feels like you're just talking to me about shit and they were like it's so I don't I have no idea why people say this I think I have the most annoying voice on planet earth they're like it's so relaxing no you don't have an annoying voice and I'm like how is it relaxing that's a good voice yeah but I don't think it's so relaxing I don't think it's so relaxing I don't think it's so relaxing it's relaxing yes it is it's the best really it's just like Howard Stern it's a weird thing that just works it's that it feels like it's like so like abrasive to me no it cuts it's a very good like tone you have a good voice I love your voice you guys are both very gentle I love your voice because it reminds me I don't it reminds me of my mom like how she talks because like my mom has a New York accent and she has a New York New Jersey mix accent and like a lot of my family have that and my mom doesn't even realize she has it oh and when you talk you're like singing my mom doesn't even realize she has it oh yeah people say I have a yes it's very like it's melodic or like it's very like that your voice yeah I'm like it's like a lullaby when you're a dad it'll be great oh stop 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is a Jewish what a great question they're they're oh give me oh Streisand no no I'm talking about like for like for talking to the youth does your daughter love that you are her mother oh wait yeah what's your what does your daughter think you're cool or are you like so embarrassed she has to she thinks I'm cool but she doesn't like but she's embarrassed no she's not embarrassed no she's not embarrassed what is it how do I describe it like she just knows that you're a real person yes but I don't think like she doesn't she doesn't need to be part of this she doesn't need to be part of it do you put her in your videos sometimes but she doesn't because she's also a teenager she doesn't want it and I like that she doesn't want it that that's attractive to me like I don't want to be part of it I don't want to be part of it I I think she's so cool that she doesn't want it yeah cuz at her age I wanted it yeah so I did so yeah did you always want it yeah I mean I think it was probably just wanting love and some attention so I think it was displaced what was your dream as a kid what was your childhood um we'd have to do to show I mean I like what my childhood was give it to us in one sentence when you say that you want to love why are you saying that I mean I just was raised by very problematic people like all of them and like by any stretch of everyone's imagination so it was like very there was an extreme amount of dysfunction in my childhood like my mom probably knows all about this yeah abuse saying substances and you know abandonment and like all the things did you know that growing up or what did you do like therapy as an adult we were like oh I think my life was like dysfunctional as a kid well sometimes I feel fraudulent and framing it like that because I didn't know it then so it didn't work out for me I didn't want to do it because I didn't want to do it I didn't feel like it was things that I saw I was just an adult as a child I was an adult oh yeah I was at nightclubs at 13 years old like it was absolutely nothing and like you know did you do drugs when you were a kid I did but I dabble but not like I don't have I don't I'm not addictive or so I did do I did do drugs when I was younger now you know we've never done cocaine right so I have so I have that's such a good that's like the best sound bite you know what I mean so I have and and a lot of all the things we like hooking up with boys early on I was never promiscuous didn't when did you lose your virginity uh 16 years old to Mike Parrish on Valentine's Day oh sweet yeah I was never promiscuous my love in high school do you ever think about him still yeah because I tell Brynn I mean it was a beautiful story and I think that's how it should be for every young girl why did you guys break up because I wanted to sow my oats because we uh I spent my a lot of my high school with him and I wanted to sow my oats and I wanted to sow my oats and I wanted to sow my oats in my senior year and it was actually a mistake and it broke his heart for many many many years spread your wings like spread like I just thought that I was like I had FOMO or I was missing out well I think that's understandable I know but you find a good thing you stick with it I think but that's so you ever think do you ever think back and like man like my life could have been different with him or no no it's too yeah okay last time you looked into this man you never not you're not up at night about it no Brynn wanted me to call him oh not to did not to get you just wanted to talk to me he's nice yeah does she talk to you about like everything does she like do you like you have a very it's it when you parent it's not like you parent and it happens passively you don't like think about it actively you take long drive no you go to you take long drives you hang out you go to dinner parents are very transactional and like we have the meal and then we drive you have to like it has to flow yeah it's like a flow and it does it's like music well I never heard anyone put yeah it's a good way to put it is she one of your best friends yeah I love her so much like when you chill with her are you are you like do you feel like oh I'm chilling with my like yo I'm chilling with like a friend right now it's right in between yeah it's when we vibe and we were watching something and we're laughing we connect but we sometimes we are missing we're we're on different paths we're very much like Thelma and Louise like in our like we are like roommates in ways if I have a daughter I'm gonna be so excited to like be her best friend do you feel like you're like moving chess pieces sometimes to get in no we are very connected and we love to be together and we respect each other's space and what we're both going through and doing that's why it feels almost like a roommate yeah way like we're in totally different chapters of our lives obviously and we respect each other's chapters it's the the that you'll go through this the fame element with a mom and a daughter if you have a daughter that is a dynamic how do you deal with it um you just have to know well there's two things I've heard about this from therapists too like it's my job and I don't have to apologize for people to coming up like I mean everyone has their own thing and she has a great life and we don't get this life without this like it's you can't take a rose and take the petals and separate them from the thorns no but I'm aware you just have to be aware that it exists that to be the person in the house that's at a time where you want attention and you're insecure and thinking about your life and hi you know what I mean she's a teenager and you're thinking about your body and you're thinking about your popularity and who likes you and who doesn't and you want to be like just for you and so I'm just it's just to navigate it's not something to apologize for it's just something to be aware of yeah do her friends like love you or are you just like another mother no yes and that's why I try to stay away from everybody because I don't want to get the attention yeah and sometimes like you low I skew young yeah and you want it to be you want it to be like you want the friends to be friends with your daughter because they love your daughter and she wants that as well yeah like do also wait do the boy are the boys like whoa like hot mom they think it's cool I don't know about hot mom but they think it's cool no but like has any boy like hit on you no but they try to charm me and they've listened to the podcast and then and she's never listened to the podcast and they know things that she doesn't know is your mom ever embarrassed or I mean your daughter ever embarrassed when you're like talking about like sex and like dates you're on and stuff she's cool yeah like people will be like what did she think that you wore thong in the sports illustrated swimsuit show and she's a mama you looked great mom like she's proud of that or not that stuff it's just not to talk about her or her friends yeah she's proud it doesn't like to disappoint me she's a really wonderful child but it's what you put into it you get out like honestly that's one thing too like what you put in you get out you cannot half-ass it you cannot nanny it you can't sub it out what did you think that your life was going to be when you were a kid like how did you like what were you imagining to this day I never think about I don't think about that type of stuff I never thought I didn't think about it no one ever told me to think about that no one ever told me to prepare for anything or want anything or be anything in the present kind of yeah yeah did you always think deep down like I'm gonna kill it no matter what I do I thought I had something yeah the one thing my mother did and being a very like I said chat problematic parent I believe I imagine it or I said it myself I believe that she might have told me that I had something that I was like special or different I believe that I mean you're very charismatic I don't know if it's true but I think I remember back and think I was but were you always like the most popular girl like very cool all the time I went to like 13 different schools so oh wow I could adapt I was excited why did you go because there's just this this crew this life this stuff there's no And we're going to do this. It's like we're dealing with action junkies and like people like racetrack people, like gamblers, like action, like drinking, like drugs. Like just like it's just like we're just like fucking moving around. You could have six cars in the driveway the next week. There'd be none and everything was taken away. Like it was like. One room. Yeah. Well, bookies taking money like. What's your biggest turnoff in a man? My biggest turnoff in a man. Top three. Okay. Top three turnoffs in a man is insecurity. Okay. Like cheap. I don't like when someone's cheap. What's cheap though? Like they. Cheap like counting. Like even you did this. I don't like a counter of things. You don't want someone taking score. I don't like even Stephen keeping score. Yeah. So it's. They're like cousins, I think. Okay. So I don't like that kind of stuff. I've dealt with that stuff. Like just being like. It has to be even Stephen. You go here. I come that much. You come that much. It's been a problem. And then that. A turnoff in a man is. I mean, I wouldn't like someone not smart. It wouldn't even. It's just that you can't even get in the room. Hey, also, also, tell me about like the whole, you know, I just know this passively through my mom, but I don't really understand it. Tell me about the whole skinny girl thing. Like tell me like skinny margarita. Like what, how did it start? What was it? Did you create the skinny margarita? No. I invented the skinny margarita. No, you did not. Yes, you did. Yeah. I swear to God. Yeah. She did. It's like Band-Aid. I know it's confusing. Could you capitalize? That's funny. Yes. Because like you can't. I capitalize on every time everybody orders it every night of the week. No, but I invented, I created skinny girl, which was the fastest growing liquor brand in history. And I sold it. She capitalized. But it would have been, I capitalized. Yes. I've been in every country, Australia, Mexico, all over the world. Yeah, let me get a skinny margarita. I invented that. Is that fucked up? That's really cool. That's like Band-Aid. I thought of, whenever we were in Hawaii and we ordered it. You thought of me? I thought of you. And I didn't even, I don't even like margaritas, but I know that it's because of you. I'm happy you're thinking, but I really don't. I'll think about you for now on. Just give me the, I just want someone to like know. I'll be thinking of you. I'll think about you when I stay at your Hamptons house. Yes. I'm really going to think. Perfect. Now, so do you do other skinny girl products? Yes, popcorn and shapewear and coffee. Give me some popcorn. I will send you as much popcorn as you want. I love popcorn. Multi-millions. I still have this house of popcorn. What? Multi-million. For what? All of it? Yeah. Much more than that. Yes. A lot. That's great. Yes. Congratulations. Thank you. I have all sorts of snacks that you would love. I'm big on snacks. No, I know. We follow the same. Type of snack thing. I'm always making. What are your favorite crispy, salty snacks? I'm also, I'm making a lot of stuff and I'm making like all sorts of skinny girl treats all the time. Okay. Like, like I'm, I'm doing, I'm a big, like. Ritz Cracker's guy. Because I do like Ritz Cracker's. But I eat, I eat really healthy because I love to pig out. So I love to eat super bad. To give you some balance. When are you pigging out? So what are your favorite packaged salty snack brands? I'm an expert on this topic. Well. He pigs out. Yeah. I like. I like certain things. Like, I love seaweed I'm obsessed with. Same. I have a special one. Do you love those nori, nori ones that are like crispy? Like. Yeah, those are cool. The ones that they kind of fry a little. The, the. They look like square and bulbous. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love those. My favorite. I get this one seaweed from Japan that's unreal. Oh, you're like very serious about it. I really am. I'm very, I'm a curator. Have you guys gone to Japan? I'm a curator of things. I don't fly. He's scared to fly. Do you know, when I go to Europe, I take a boat. But he's. You don't fly. He's working towards a flight to Japan. Wait, who's the other person who I, who, who's afraid to fly there? Travis Barker. He survived a crash. He's got no excuse. I take a boat. So you've never been to, what countries have you been to? Everywhere almost. What are you, have you been to Japan? He used to fly. The only, yeah, but. Give him a day in Australia. Even without flying, here, here's the places I haven't been to that like I still want to go to. Japan, Australia. Australia's the best. Philippines. Wow, no Africa? Wow. Does it give you. No, yeah, I guess Africa too. I would like to, I would like to go to. Does it give you anxiety to fly? Does it give you anxiety that you don't fly, like the logistics of it and when you want to go somewhere? Does it make you feel trapped? No, because my life's so planned in advance. I'm going to London, Paris, Venice, Tuscany. You're going there because you're going to one place and then you're going. That's fair. I'm going to Greece. But you're taking a boat to get there. How long does the boat take? This is the most fascinating thing of the day. I'm going from L.A. to New York. Usually I would do it in like two and a half days. And I have two. Two drivers that drive at the same time. Okay. L.A. to New York in two and a half days. Yeah. On a tour bus. On a tour bus. But I have like friends come with me. We usually like go to like amazing places along the. So it's an experience. It's incredible. Well, he roped me into the bus and I thought it would be a really fun bus. I've joined him. Yeah, it's most of my friends. Why don't you guys film that? Why don't you do like this show on the road on the bus? Most of my friends, like if you ask them like with me, they'll say like it's one of the greatest like life experiences. They've had. I would like to come, but we have to stop at certain food places to like. I know every single one all over. And we only ride the bus in the night when you're sleeping. We go to, you wake up, you're in a new city and you're having the time of your. But then I'm not going to have a great night's sleep on there. Yes, you are. It's the best night's sleep I've ever had in my entire life. If you had your own bed. I love sleeping on the bus. I want to go on the bus. You can come with me. Okay. But I want to stop at some good food places. I will tell you every food place. Okay. It's my favorite thing. I've already made my reservations. I already know where I'm eating in June, July, August, September, and October of next year. On the bus. And when I'm in New York, it's already. That's mental. It's already down. Really? Yeah. What if you don't feel like going there that night? He's got to. I could do twice. Whenever he makes plans. What's your favorite restaurant here? I don't break a plan ever. I have to be so. But these are your own plans. I guess. Yeah. No, any plan. I have to be so. I remember the last time I missed a meeting. It was like four and a half years ago. And it was. You're very reliable. Yes. You're the most in the world. I never, ever. Because I know how important people's time is. Because I know my time is very important. I love that value of other people's time. I'm not late. I don't like to be late. I don't like. I'm in at all. I don't like. Oh, no. I'm bad. Selina's 30 minutes early to every single thing, no matter what. Wow. I think being early is worse than being late for me. She's always early. She waits in the car. People come in there early. I don't want to be early either. No, me too. I don't want to be early. I'd like to be on time. Yeah. When someone says, if you're on time, you're late, I'm like, no, you're not. No, Selina doesn't go. I know. She doesn't ring the doorbell. She waits outside in her car. She doesn't make sure she's secure. Until exactly on the dot. Yes. Okay. That's a great trait. Oh, I love it. That's a gorgeous trait. She's very professional. Yeah, me and her both care about time, so I love it. I do too. There's no, like, she's getting ready perfectly. We're leaving at the perfect time. So when someone's late for you, you find it to be entirely disrespectful. I don't care that much. I just care. Like, certain people, like, I love them. Why are you looking at us? I know that they're going to be, I know that they're not going to, they're going to be some time between. He's got the, his face just, like, looks mischievous. He looks like he could be a cartoon character with feathers coming out of his mouth at all times. It's just every time I've looked at you, it's the same exact thing and I'm dying. I just know, I just know that they're going to be between 15 and 45 minutes. That is not true. It's a social gathering that is, like, last. They're just going to be 15, to anything that happens, they will be, if it's more important, they'll be 15 minutes late. Well, you're placing judgment on it. No, he's not. No, I'm just. I'm just saying, I don't play. It's a literal fact. No, he doesn't even complain about it. Yeah, I don't complain about it. He expects us to be 15 to 45 minutes late. Yeah. Maybe you're giving, maybe you're giving us too much of a leash. No. I just know you are. And I've been with you guys when you guys are trying to go out. I just expect my friends and the people I know to be the people I know. I never, I know I'm never going to change that about them and I don't care. As long as they're not making me late for something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's all I care about. We don't disappoint you in that way. This is like R2-D2. I know, we call him Hashiba. I don't care if anyone's late unless it's like going to fuck up. Like, like I don't like it when people. A business meeting is different as well. Yeah. I'm not late to a business. He would never be. I'm not 45 minutes late to a. Well, that is problematic. That makes me more upset. I'm irritated. Yeah. Now, yeah. No, you can't. You can't set up a business meeting. No, that makes me. No. That makes me more upset because then it's like, why are you. Me too. I'm like, no, me too. Yeah. Immediately no. No, just to make it clear. You're disqualified. No. Yeah. You're disqualified. Let's talk about it first and foremost. Okay. It means you don't care. We're talking about dinners, right? That are like three hour things that. Then why book a time? I'm sorry. The time. I'm not talking about. Thank you. Immediately no. I don't come to like. I was with him. I was like, cool. Hang on. Hang on. No. I don't go. If we have a double date, right? At a restaurant and we have an eight o'clock reservation, us three and Selena, we will not be 45 minutes late. No. He'll be 15, not 45. No, we will not. Yes, you will. No, we will not. No, we will not. For me, I go on vacation. I have friends. Because it's your Jewish. You're way more Jewish than I am. So my Jewish friends go with other couples on vacation. And today they know Christmas vacation. What did I? I want to. I never want to make a plan. I don't want to be trapped. Life is trapped. I don't like the trapped feeling. Bethany, if you went on a vacation with me, you'd be blown away at how great it is. But you do have to commit. Because do you know what? Do you know what? Do I have to know what I'm going to do on the Tuesday we get there where we're having dinner? Okay. I. I don't care if any plan is broken on that trip. Don't care. I just have this. Yeah, that's true. I have this stuff in place. Don't care if everyone said. I'm the same. You know what? Fuck it. We're back. We're back. Let's just. I'm the same. We've got to talk to you guys about Olipop because they have a caramel apple flavor. And I think this is beautiful autumnal design. 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Can I have a fork? - Yeah. - Okay. - Okay. - Why is it yellow? - Okay. Okay, here's how it's gonna go. We're each gonna taste the chicken salad. - Wait, wait, we gotta see what these are. - These are very controlling. - I'm not controlling. - We're gonna taste the chicken. - Okay. - You run the show. - I'm gonna run the show. Okay, we're gonna taste different chicken salads and we're each gonna just like take a second and give honest opinions and debate. - Do you wanna taste two? - Sure. - You all can taste. - Okay, okay. - All right, we're all gonna taste. - You'll taste two. - I just don't like celery. - He doesn't like celery. He's very picky and that's not gonna land. - I'll enjoy the meat. - You shouldn't be in the chicken salad universe. - I disagree. I'm a guy and I exist. - All right, Benny, let's do Erewhon chicken salad. How much was it? - I don't know. - $11.31. - What? Then this is the standard. - No, it's so much. This would be $40 in the Hamptons. Not exaggerating. - Just gonna get some piece of the meat. I don't like the consistency. - It's fine. It's cat food. - It's weird. - It's like cat food. - Okay. - Fine. Okay, this is curry chicken salad. I don't even count this. We're disqualified. - Well, we should taste it, though. - It doesn't count. - I like curry chicken salad. - It's just like not. It's chunky, apple-y. It's not a food. It's a dessert. I don't do it. - Apple-y? - Oh, this one's a bad one, too. - You're disqualified. Okay, where's this from? - I think Pavilion's. - It only has 77 ingredients. Let's do this one. I've never seen anything. Pavilion's is like-- - 77? - A local grocery store. - Isn't that so many ingredients? How many ingredients? - Do you think you're gonna like this one? - Oh, she's saying there's a lot of ingredients? - I don't. I told him that there would not be good chicken salad in LA. He's spitting it out. - Ew, ew, ew. - What brand is this? - Oh my god, it's so hard and like-- - What brand is it? - But you know what? It's better than the Air 1 one. - It is, but it's bad. - What's the brand? - It's a seven. It's just like-- - That's not a seven. - It's very commercial. Well, that was a seven. This is a-- - No, no. - That's better than the first one for sure. - Okay, now. - He's right, he's right. - That was much better than the first one. - He's right. You're being very hard. The Pavilion's one isn't as bad as you're saying. - They're both bad. - Wait, what's the brand that I just had? - Pavilion Supermarket. - They're both bad. - I love that. - I know, I told him that the Super, I told him, he was trying to like say-- - They're both bad. - Was that bad too? You didn't like that? - It was fine. - You see what I see. - No, no, this is all the same. - Now we're friends. - Same company, same company. - Pavilion? So why is it different? - I don't know, they just bought more of them. - Well, we don't need more shit. - Ew, what's this, a wrap? - It wasn't shit though. - Sorry, pavilions, it wasn't shit, it wasn't shit. - Should we take it out of this wrap to eat it? - No, it's a chicken salad wrap? - Yeah. - From where? - From Bay Cities. - Oh my God, in LA. They don't do bread in LA. - Oh, it's made of lettuce? - This better be good. This is the Italian deli in Santa Monica. If this isn't good, Christmas in California is canceled. - It's got too much stuff in it. Oh, that's a big chunk. - They're all bad. - I told you chicken salad in LA sucked. You did not listen. - They're all bad. - I told it to you. - I think the pavilions one's the best one. - That's what I said. - It's fine. It's good. It's not phenomenal. But LA-- - Ooh, it's got carrots in it. - I told him LA would not have good chicken salad. He did not believe me. He's like, "Wait, what's the best one?" I'm like, "It doesn't exist." - This thing's like eight minutes long. Who's gonna watch this? - We're gonna edit it. We're gonna fuck it. I'll figure out a way to edit it. I'll have someone help me. Fuck off. - Hey, we love you. - Love you guys, bye. - Turn this thing off. - Fuck off. - You guys are good at that. - Okay. - I like that. - Should we start our own TikTok channel? - Love it. - I've had one dream only, and it is to make a-- - Supermodel snack. - What do we need first? Show me. - We're gonna take a rice cake. Because we're in LA, I got a brown rice cake. More fiber. - I love rice cakes. - Next, we have low-fat cottage cheese, and we're gonna mix it with hot sauce. - You know I didn't like cottage cheese till I was an adult. - Okay, hang on. We need one extra bowl up here for the non-truffle. - What do you mean non-truffle based? - I don't want the flavor of the truffle. I want-- - Okay, ready? Now you're gonna take your hot sauce cottage cheese and mix it with the mixture. - Okay, it smells good. - Cottage de fromage. - Okay. Wow, I look insane. How come you look good and I look terrible? - I mean, I'm a supermodel. - Okay. - Now we have some shaved turkey, but you have to do it like ribbons. And then-- - Okay, what now? - We're gonna make two supermodel snacks, because one is made like that, and one is made on the rice cake. So we're doing this guy. - The tomato's like the bread? - Yeah, so now you have to put everything bagel seasoning. - Oh, wow. - 'Cause it's gonna give a little bit of a texture. - Oh, wow. And now these are snacks? - Yeah, these are our snacks. - Chuck, are you gonna have some of this? - No, the one on the right I like except for the truffle, but I'll bear it. No, I'd like a side that has the least amount of, yeah, there we go. - But then it's just gonna be a piece of turkey on the rice. - No, it's okay. - It's a scam. - Okay, no, it's good. - It's a full scam. I'm scared. Jesus, I'm scared. - Do you love it? - I'm actually scared. - All this is truffle. All this is truffle. - But you didn't, why eat it then? You're disqualified. - I thought I could get past it, I couldn't. I said no. - Delicious. - Mm, it's good. - Okay, should we taste the other one? - What's the difference? - Tomato. - Mm, mm, this one's delicious. - Have that. - 'Cause there's a texture of the tomato that makes it good. It's like watery. - Mm-hmm. - Is this really skinny and good for you? - Yeah. - Good enough? - Look at me. - Yeah. - What are you gonna do? - But you don't eat this all day, do you? - No, not at all. - Hey, Chuck, you saving the rice cracker on your chest for later? - Do you like it? Do you like it? - 'Cause you look like a fucking animal. - I'm saving the rice cracker on my chest. - You're filming all day. - What is he eating? - It's rice cake. - What is he eating? - Some rice cake fell on my chest. - Oh, okay, perfect. You like it? It's great. - I love it. - She loves it. - I love it. - She loves it. - Say we love you. One, two, three. - We love you. - Here we go. - Okay, good. - All right, love you guys. - I didn't even know what was it. - But I feel like I have to clean your kitchen now. - No, you don't. - No. - Who's gonna do it? I'm very clean. - We got it. - I might eat this every day. - Satisfying. - I need recipes. - Satisfying. - I would like it a lot. - All right, are we wrapped? - Yeah, we're wrapped. - We're wrapped, guys. Come. - Thank you. - Oh my God, thank you.