The Best Bad-Team Sleepers for 2026 Fantasy Football

[MUSIC] Some more early drafting after we're doing today on stealing bananas, I'm Ben Gretz. You can find this doing some news letter at BenGretz.substac.com with me as always, Ishya on Seagull, you can find all of his great work. Over at Road of Iz, if you want more of me, you can also find another new podcast I launched called The Long View with Jacob Sanderson. But today, Sean, we are doing another superflex draft. I got some feedback that the superflex stuff isn't everyone's favorite. We'll be doing all the other stuff. I'm getting the questions about the first and second rounds for 2027. I mean, it's like mid-July. We're turning toward late July, but we've typically done that in mid-August, but people are excited. We are doing another superflex draft here today. We're tight on time this week. I just got back from a little trip this past weekend. I'm going away again next weekend. This was one that was about to fill. We jumped in, we're recording. We'll obviously talk to players. We're heading to the end of the third round. We got into this so last minute, you weren't even home yet. You just gave me a call. He said, hey, I just jumped into draft. We're going live. We're doing it live. I grabbed us Brock Bowers at 10 in this FFPC-Ted and Premium superflex format. We were thrilled about that. We wrapped him around on the turn. Gentie, Jaden Daniels, Jonathan Taylor, Aminero, St. Brown, all some solid picks before we got to pick, again, at 203. You and I hop in together at that time, and you threw out the fun idea of, let's do a Brock Bowers Trimic Bride Team. So that's where we are as we approach our 3-10. We have Brock Bowers, we have Trimic Bride, we have no quarterbacks in this superflex format, because who needs them? Colson Lovelins on the board. I mean, there's been worse ideas. I do see that he's one of the guys you have not put in the queue yet, as you've put many others into the queue. We are up. Jackson Dart just went as, well, I admit, the screen difficult to see, but it looks like the QB12. You have my homes at the top of the queue. I mean, I think he's a very solid pick at this point, QB13. AJ Brown's still there. A fun one, Jaden. My love's still there at Running Back, Breeze Hall. Colson Lovelins, if you want to go three tight-end, what are you thinking? Looks to good spot for my homes. Obviously, you have that week 17 with the Chargers, such as the team we like to play, I've said many, many other people. That's a good price here. It's a good pick in this format. I do think that taking another cardinal and going to Jeremiah Love and then Breeze Hall is the other fun way to play it. We've got 10 seconds to give a preference. Let's do my homes. I don't know that I want to just be like hammering the cardinal stacks. I do think Jeremiah Love is very interesting. I did a show today with Ron Stewart, and we went over to my Running Back area. It's a piece that I wrote over at Substact the other day. He made a really good case for how Jeremiah Love could be a guy who could benefit from that that I had not thought through. We are quickly back up. Colson Lovelins, AJ Brown, Bonyx, Rishi Rice, go off the board. Love made it back and so did Breeze Hall. I was going to make the case for AJ Brown. If we didn't do Patrick Mahamsu, I'm going to have to pull your teeth to get you to take some AJ Brown with me this year, because I think he's going to go nuclear. But he goes. Rishi Rice goes before we have a chance to stack that up. I think it's one of the two running backs. Who do you prefer? Do you prefer the stack element with McBride? I'm OK with the stack element to be clear. I wasn't trying to say I was out on it. Do you prefer that element with McBride? Or do you prefer to go breeze in a vacuum? Well, I think Breeze Hall is going to score more points. So it's a little bit if you want to play ADP and go cardinals, or if you want to go play Breeze. Yeah, that's what I was asking. Do you feel confident and breeze? I think there's a lot of people that think you kind of have to correlate these kinds of things in Best Ball. I just don't feel the same way, especially when you start talking about a team like Arizona. They have the hardest schedule in the league. They have the fewest projected points in the league. Like when you make a bet on McBride, you're betting on him to be a big part of the offense. I think it's a tough bet to be like. Yeah, McBride and Love are both going to be absolute smashes. You're expecting the cardinals to be really one of the big storylines of the year to overcome their expected outlook in that scenario. I don't like it. And look, we went and took Breeze Hall. He's on the jets. But I actually don't love to stack really heavily, too, with the top four picks, two guys from an offense that is expected to be that low in scoring. But the jets also, another one I'm switching to be very low. And yet, their season could play out in a way where it's a very Breeze Hall dominant and Breeze Hall heavy. Just talking through correlation generally. You and I agree on this stuff, the audience. Some audience people may disagree. There are a lot of people that believe that you have to have a, I think what they believe to be a certain level of humility in your projections and those things and correlate in those situations, recognize those guys are in the same tier and make bets that are moving the same direction. And so I was just talking through how I think about that a little bit differently when it comes to a team like the Cardinals. And in general, don't think you have to be that specific with your correlations, especially this early in the draft. So anyway, we went Breeze Hall, Brock Bauer's, Tramik Bride, Patrick Mohomes Hall. Talk about a bit about Hall. One of the big pieces that I put together last season is basically this look at running back and the, what I've always sort of considered to be the Uber back profile. Obviously, the same thing that Pat is getting out when he talks about the legendary running back. And the type of player that you not only want to have, but really need to have if you're going to go away from say the zero RB 10s and land or running back early. Now, I say that it's always sort of moving into the last several years where everything has changed. And I have a piece that we've kind of been talking about for a couple of weeks now that will probably be out around the time a lot of folks are listening to this show. And it discusses ways in which you might even want to go robust running back. We did that on one of these previous super flex drafts. And obviously, if you're going to really lean into running backs, the same way that in the past, we leaned into these star wide receivers, you need to be getting profiles that can not just score, but score an absolute ton of points. And there's certainly no guarantee that any individual back will hit that. Well, you want to be stockpiling these types of backs. So one of the types of backs. And fairly straightforwardly, it's a hyper profile, a guy who can both be a runner and a pass catcher. One of the things with Breast Hall is that you're getting a discount because of what the Jets did with their offense last year. And you're also then getting a discount based on what you just described, which is what the offensive expectations are for the offense this year. But even with those offensive expectations, we move back in the direction of Breast Hall catching passives, which is absolutely crucial. We also know that Breast Hall is one of these guys who can create the big play. So while Astor's article really focused on wide to fund HN, let's underpriced, you can flip forward to this season and think about why Breast Hall would be significantly underpriced. And even if you want to go to things like the peripherals, how good of a player is he actually down to down beyond just being able to both catch passes and create the big place. Breast Hall is the kind of guy that you want when we're talking about drafting him here in the third round after or the fourth round here. But third round when you think about redraft and regular best ball prices, you're talking about him going after a number of backs who don't have that profile. And so yes, that's a problem with the Jets are probably going to be bad. Yes, it's a bit of a problem that he has to good back with behind him. Breast Hall still fits this profile that we really need. Love that. A lot of quarterbacks off the board since we last talked to you. We've thrown a bunch of quarterbacks in the queue that is wiped. This is one of the tricky things because I think getting through about QB 20, there's some really interesting quarterbacks and then it does really start to fall. Jordan love goes at 503, QB 20. And kind of like once, you know, once you hit that, now you have on the board, Malik Willis, Sam Donnell, CJ Stroud. I mean, I think even if you're in single QB leagues, you want to be, have a quarterback by that point. I know some people will point out that Malik Willis has a lot of mobility. I have some concerns like we had about Justin Fields last year, Sean, about the actual passive volume when I got through my Miami projection. I mean, that's the team that's going to probably call the fewest pass attempts in the league. And then he's going to have the Justin Fields thing where he really high percentage of his dropbacks are going to be scrambles and a really higher going to be sex. And so a very, very high, basically only comparable to Justin Fields percentage of dropbacks will not be passive. MC does go two picks before us, but it's going to be about 25% of the call passes won't even turn into passive temps because the ball won't leave his hand. And that becomes like really tough for a pass volume perspective, even though the rushing efficiency and production could be really strong, it's the end goes there as well. We make it up on the clock top guys in the Q alave scatter booze flowers. Sam Darnell, T. J. Strail, the top quarterbacks, Daniel Jones. I mean, my picks, you're probably Sean would be flowers potentially, Garrett Wilson, potentially, Tedero, Mike Mellon, you've thrown some other running backs that are a ways down and Quinchon, Junkins, Basel Tuton into the queue. I don't assume you don't, they're not thinking of them right at this pick necessarily. Are you? You're muted. You're muted. They will come back and I do like running backs over receivers here. Do you want to, when you consider going with Daniel Jones and then pushing the decision on that second pick? Sure. We ran low on time there. Chaud was muted. I said you're muted. He kept talking for 10 seconds and then I yelled you muted. So he had a little bit of a panic there. I did like Daniel Jones there as the QB and I was thinking about him on the way back. You're saying they won't come back with respect to Judd Ginseng, Tuton meaning they won't come all the way back to our 710. So we push Jones up at the 510 to get our second QB, which leaves us the opportunity to take the running back that we kind of like here and structurally what you're saying is we prefer the running backs in this range. I like that because of the depth of the wide receiver values that we've been getting in these things through like round whatever 13 we do have no receivers. Flowers goes the turn. We have Breeze Hall so that makes the Garrett Wilson pick a little bit less appealing similar to the Arizona point I was making. I'm pretty excited about Garrett Wilson but I would be less excited on a Breeze Hall team I guess to really concentrate on the jets like that. It swings back around. You have Judd Ginseng and Tuton as your top guys. This is a silly team where we've drafted Raiders, Cardinals and Jets for our skill guys you want to add a Brown. I'd be okay with going with Tuton if that's your preference. Look at your projections here. You do have about a 20 point edge for Judd Ginseng and he does go earlier what's your preference. Yeah, yeah. Let's let's try to stack up all of the worst offences in the league. I mean I think that's the best way to do it in 2026. No, it's actually probably I'm being a little facetious but it's actually probably a pretty real concern because I do think some of these offenses can really bottom out. There may be an issue with us having pieces of a lot of offenses that could really bottom out the way that we saw the Raiders last year for example the Jets to an extent the Browns to an extent. These are the teams that are thought to be the ones that would have that big risk. Having said that you've been pretty excited about Judd Ginseng. I feel like we talked about it after the show last week so tell the people what you're thinking about with Judd Ginseng. This episode is sponsored by Better Health. We talk about mental health more openly now but asking for help can still feel hard and Better Health's latest research confirms it. Better Health's 2020 sixth stit of stigma reports surveyed 2000 Americans and revealed that 85% of Americans believe getting support is wise yet 74% say society discourages people from doing so. 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Well, Juckins obviously is coming back from the injury that he suffered at the end of last season but the reporting has been not just enthusiastic but crazy in terms of where he is, what he looks like compared to his teammates. If you go through and do some comps for his rookie season he's someone who should be going more in the 19-ish range. Again, when you think about redraft you think about regular bestball not so much this format obviously where the Cubes are pushing everybody down. He's going at a substantial discount to that. Now there are reasons for it. I mentioned the injury. He does seem to be very, very healthy at this point. We know that the browns are going to be bad. I guess one of my thoughts when we look at this team is that yes, we're stacking up a bunch of teams that are bad with the exception potentially of our quarterbacks or we're getting a great price on Patrick Mahomes. We're getting a great price on Daniel Jones, both of those guys also coming back from injury. It's a little tricky when we have so many players who have this sort of injury. Bugaboo, when you consider that's something I've talked with you about and kind of mentioned on the show as wanting to be a little bit careful about. But I think when you look at both of the injuries and you look at the team context for these players these are big discounts that we're getting on what these players are in a vacuum. One of the things that we know and you have to be a little bit careful about emphasizing. But when you're talking about teams on the very edges, some of those teams, even when they regress, they still are not really in the middle or certainly not on the other side. We wouldn't expect the raiders and the cardinals, the jets and the browns to be among the best offenses in the NFL. Our best case scenario for those teams is that they go back into the middle. But if they do go back into the middle, then we're talking about a substantial amount of upside relative to the price because these players individually are being treated as though their offenses are going to massively limit them. If they're simply average, then we could be off to the races when you consider price. Yeah, that sounds exciting. I think that path makes a lot of sense. I think in the same ways that we talk about stacking different types of risk like drafting a much more running back early, it's hard for me to see an outcome where like the browns, the jets, the cardinals and the raiders all don't have some type of offensive issue that limits somebody because then at that point, like who are the bad deeps? Maybe that's too sort of too precise in my mind. There's a lot of different ways things can happen. The cardinals were one of the worst teams in the league last year, but it was still very productive for its players. There could be some teams that are better, there could be some individual situations that are a little bit better. Yeah, I think it's a weird point to make to try to avoid exposure to too many bad offenses, but we probably should try to get some exposure to good offenses because there are teams that are going to score a lot of points and we would like some of those players on some of these teams. Your guy, Basel Tutin has made it back within three picks of us. It's possible. We could get a stab at him a bunch of tight ends going in this round. We took both of the first two, Lovelin went in the third, Warren in the fourth, so far this round. LaPorta, Tuckercraft, Pits, Fanon. In addition to Bryce Young and Bucky Irving, quarterback pretty much picked through now as tends to happen. Basel Tutin did go. Aaron Rodgers for Nanoman Doza, the top available quarterbacks. Luther Burton goes as well. He would have been another one we could have potentially gotten in on there. What do you think it? Well, tell me how you're looking at Giderian Price from the context of projections. You have him sort of sandwiched in between Kyle Menongai and Jordan Mason. That negative on him from a scoring perspective for this season? No. No. Yeah. I think some of the stuff seems a little bit more optimistic as we work through. I'm pretty into Price. We talked about this on a recent show, but the specifics running back splits almost don't matter to me. It's the way that I wrote it up. I wrote up Price as a pretty solid pick if you want to take him. I'm going to go ahead and collect Terry McClure in here. We both have talked about him a bit. We like him. He was the big ADP follower and that kind of again pushes. I guess this is a position that we're looking at. It allows us to push this decision of either Price or maybe one of these QBs. One of the interesting things here is because of the players that we have drafted to this point, Fernando Menosa, Jacobi Ressette, Geno Smith, all more compelling than they would be in a vacuum. Maybe one of those players makes more sense than taking the plunge on price in this particular draft. How are you seeing that now that we have a little bit more sort of? So on price, my rushing projection is pretty solid. I don't have a ton of targets for him. Some of that's because of the running back target rate in this offense last year. My right up in my, the signal that I wrote for him was probably limited receiving work and concerns about workhorse credentials, but should play early. And the bet is a straightforward rookie bet that he's just a breakout stud and they don't want to get him off the field for for the other guys early and as sharpening gets healthy later. Basically that they see him. I mean, I think you're like, my point is that my projection doesn't tell the story of the upside case, which is that he is a breakout star. And in which case, I think he's just better than everyone else in the back field. And it would be the obvious play. That's why we play rookies. I'm not saying we have to take him. I liked them a chlorin pick. That was going to be my suggestion. That was going to be my pick. My pick here, I think coming back would be James and Williams. Now you're kind of or potentially a QB. You're kind of feeling that we should, okay, you click James and Williams the second that I said that because I know you're very high on him as well. I told you when I went through the projection process, I got pretty stoked about James and Williams. I can sense that you're really trying to push us toward the running back structurally. Is that because of the two tight end start and the super flex element, is that something that in the last week or so or the last couple of weeks that you're feeling really strong about for people who are playing in single QB leagues, should they be thinking, hey, I want to hammer running back. Certainly. What's the tie breakers toward the running back? Is it very specific to this build in this format or what are you thinking? Yeah, one of the things that we want to do in 2026 is stockpile. Those running backs before they disappear. That may seem like the same basic approach that people were preaching from 2008 to 2023 when it was a really, very, very poor and just structurally didn't have any evidence behind it or had very little evidence behind it. But we do have to take into consideration the shifting dynamics of the NFL and the specific profiles of backs in 2026 and the specific profiles of receivers in 2026 and then also this format where with the super flex, if you get that outsized scoring from the running back position, it helps you cover for not having potentially elite QBs. And one of the things that the roster construction explorer consistently tells us about this. And it tends to tell us about it regardless of year. There are occasionally years that are good enough for the elite QBs where that first round QB does pay off. But it's surprisingly fragile, right? Whereas waiting on QB almost always pays off in some way, shape, or form for some managers here. The managers who end up hitting on the late QBs and in this round we have Aaron Rogers, Jacobi, Brissette, Gino Smith, all going. Those managers tend to be the ones that you see overly represented in the tournament final. And so that's kind of the structure that you want to be chasing. We got good prices, we got a good price on Patrick Mahomes in this draft. And I think because we had a sort of a lack of clarity and or just Daniel Jones seemed like a good fit for this particular team, we made that move. So there was not necessarily a need to draft running back heavy in order to cover the super flex spot. So that's sort of the tension that we're working through there. One of the things that I love about super flex and the reason I would encourage people to play this format is that it's actually quite a bit more exploitable still than most formats. That's always good. You have a better chance of making your money back or hitting really big. But then secondly, it's just so much fun because there are so many different things you can do. And I think when you hit rounds seven and eight and you have Teri McClure and James and Liam staring at you at good prices, I think that's the perfect one to punch to start your roster with. And now start to wider see your position specifically. Now we have two of each and we can really just go so many directions from this. This is a very nice start from a foundation perspective in terms of then allowing us to get value all the way through to go best player available. Then this is a very fun start in it. It's not really recommended to do what we did with the elite tight ends, but it's kind of a fun way to play it to see if you can then dig out and create the proper foundation. I think that the strapped has worked out very nicely from that perspective. Yeah. Mahomes and Dale Jones, a QB breeze hall and Juddkins at running back McClaurin and James and Williams at receiver and then obviously Bowers and McBride. We could talk about James and Williams more another time because we are barreling back toward our pick with Mahomes on the board. I think this is one where we're really going to want to look at Xavier worthy. We always have the 80p stuff is he one that we can get the 1112 or where are we targeting him. Then as far as this 910 because we have Bowers is Fernando Mendoza as a QB 3, a priority at 910 here. Those are the two questions I have for you from cost and building perspective. Right. So the some of the guys we might be looking at Quentin Johnston, who's would be opposite Mahomes is middle of 10 then Josh Downs, who goes with Daniel Jones is middle of 11. Xavier worthy is early in 12. So you never know, but we probably need to take the risk and pass him through here. I do think that Mendoza, one of the reasons that I wanted to go ahead and take those two receivers is that it did seem like one of Brasette Smith or Mendoza would come back. We're now one pick away from Mendoza being the guy who does and he's actually slightly more expensive than Brasette and Smith. That's kind of a fun pick if he makes it through this next slot. Those two guys have gone this draft or has taken took three quarterbacks and rounds one, two and three. So I'm hopeful. I don't want to try to push him to 10 of three because the drafter behind us in the 11 hole only has the one QB Sam Darnold and does have an ashton genty pick on the roster. Mendoza does make it to us. We in agreement that that's the picker. Is there another? You like that. You said right? Yeah, let's go ahead and do that. Only small downside is he has the same bias to Daniel Jones. Not perfectly ideal, but something that, you know, since we do have a quarterback for that week, Patrick, I hope this day is healthy. I think you have to sort of accept. I was going to float your preference of RJ Harvey or Jonathan Brooks with this next pick. They go at 912 and 10 or two respectively. So we don't get the choice of either of those players. Yeah, that's tricky. I mean, you're going to hate this, but Rico Dattle is sort of the follower running back. And I mean, in my projections, you got to like the receiving potential there. We could go a different position. I mean, and I also think Kenny Gainwell, JK Dobbins, and next running backs coming up are all pretty solid options. The downs pick that you referenced, it was middle of 11. If we're thinking about worthy at the next turn, we could take Josh Downs here as well. Yes. So let's go ahead and reach down, grab him, make sure we have him. Downs probably a player who is going to continue rising. That would be my guess based on just the availability of targets there along with the injury that Alec Pierce is having to overcome. We do take him ahead of Alec Pierce. When we think about that one from a projections perspective, I can click over here and find the cults. I can try to go. I do project downs for more points straight up, about 20 more targets. Pierce had 47 receptions last year in his breakout season. There's a lot of people that are assuming with Michael Pittman gone, he's going to do a lot more in the underneath range. I think the cults paid for a role that he's been in the last two years, which is a high eight out role, an ability to attack and create explosive attack vertically downfield and create explosive plays. For a guy who had an eight out as high as he did, he was over 20 the last two years by PFF numbers. All players with over with eight outs over like 17 in the last, I don't know, was 10 or 12 years. There was only one season that had more yards than Alec Pierce's last year. It was a saving walk in season. Pierce had a thousand and three yards on 47 catches. Hit a great year. I mean, he's a great, he's a very good player, but like fantasy football is still a volume game. Pierce is a really fragile profile to me. There's a real risk that if the deep efficiency is not still there, he's still a good investment for the team because he still brings a lot to their system because he is one of the best in the league and making the plays downfield, even if he's covered and all of those things. And that's, it's so crucial in the modern NFL. It's something that's going to be a lot more important. that the defenses are trying to take away. You also have his quarterback who we drafted, having a right Achilles injury. Kirk Cousins and Aaron Rogers both in their first returns from that injury. It's their drive foot struggle to push the ball down field cousins, especially. I'm a little bit concerned about Pierce's deep efficiency from the perspective that his quarterback may not be able to drive the ball down the field the same way did last year. Dale Jones never known for having like an absolute can in arm that he could throw without a base or anything like that. And so anyway, in the projections at the end of the day, I ended up giving Pierce significantly more efficiency, significantly higher TD rate. A lot of those things, downs does still come out with the better PPR projection because I project them for quite a bit more volume. I think downs and Warren are the guys that are going to really suck up a lot of the Michael Pittman vacated work underneath. And I think downs has a lot more meat on the bone here. And Pierce has a lot of efficiency, you know, room for his efficiency to be worse than I project that I've met a 9.6 yards per target. He's been over 11 the last two years. So I mean, you can tell me that I'm wrong by bringing him down to 9.6. But I mean, that's still a very, very efficient profile. A really high receiving TD rate as well. I have downs at a much much lower receiving TD rate. But all the extra receptions for downs. So I have a 4.2% TD rate for downs, 6.6 for peers. But because of the A dot difference and because the target difference, a lot more receptions for downs, higher catch rate lower A dot, racks up a lot more in the PPR. I have Pierce for more yards perception by enough of a gap that even though I have downs for 21 more receptions, I have Pierce for more yardage and more TDs. But anyway, it all nuts out to a slight PPR edge to downs with about 19 additional targets projected over peers. I have Pierce at 108. He had 84 in 15 games last year. That was a career high. So I am projecting some more for Pierce. I am projecting his A dot to come down some, but I'm not projecting him to be a completely different player than pay him to be a completely different player. I don't believe. And usually it doesn't work out. So anyway, I do like taking downs over Pierce. I think downs is efficiency on this projection as I was breaking it all down has room meat on the bone. Whereas Pierce is feels like it's more likely to be above a 50th percentile outcome than below a 50th percentile outcome. We are back up. What are you seeing? We get, say, if you're worried, it makes it all way back. You said that he had an ADP right in this range. You had also thrown Keaton Mitchell in the queue. You know, I love him. We grab Xavier worthy of there. Any thoughts on the downs Pierce thing that I sell you? What about Xavier worthy? Yeah, I know. In looking at that, the 23% target share for downs 21 and a half for Warren 19 and a half for Pierce. But illustrates, I think what the strengths and weaknesses of their various profiles are and also speaks to the way in which downs and Warren really benefit from the departure of Michael Pitman. And again, we have to bet on that at least to an extent with the Daniel Jones selection here that one of those players comes through in this particular team. Obviously it made sense to overpay a bit for Josh downs. So here probably neither Aronde Gatston nor Keaton Mitchell come back. Gatston is a little bit more expensive and probably the harder player to get over the big picture. Those would be my two leading candidates for this selection to get some chargers opposite our chiefs. Yeah, I think those are great ideas. I'm totally fine doing Gatston and let Keaton Mitchell go even though we, you know, we love him and I wrote him up recently for context like Jordan Mason is still out there. I love Keaton Mitchell, but like I think Jordan Mason's going to lead the Vikings offense in carries and rushing touchdowns and it's a PPR format. He's not a great pick in this format, but I don't think you need to chase Keaton Mitchell up to the early 12th round right now in a super flex format when there are like potential workhorses on the board. Gatston in a tight end premium format gives us our third tight end. We may be done at tight end now and you think about Bowers and McBride at the top getting Gatston at a decent price here and correlating it with the Mahomes worthy stack. Makes sense. That would be a fun week 18 game to have that exposure to right behind him Hunter Henry Greg Dolsich Dalton Schultz. So feel good about Gatston in that context and that group. Pete was going a lot higher in the early early stuff this off season. He's fallen considerably through the months because I was looking at the I feel tippers right up and I was checking some ADP on that when I wrote it up and Gatston was. He was in the middle around nine as the tight end nine at the time. We got him here in the early 12th as the tight end. Well a lot later than nine. One two three four five six seven eight nine 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19. So yeah good pick I think right tight end 19 a very good price on Gatston and then with players who frankly are several tears down being bunched right after him. Of course that doesn't mean that he will necessarily outscore those players but when you think about the the upside the league winning value. I do think because there is so much emphasis in Bestball on getting sort of the target floors the weekly floors all of that type of thing. Something that was interesting to me been when I was working through the study on the really low scores and the really high scores is that there actually aren't as many scores in that 4 to 9 point range as is intuitive. I just bring that up from the perspective of if you are drafting players with the idea that they will like score in that like vaguely reliable range that's probably going to end up actually draining your point total a lot more than it helps out. I have some mild optimism that Keaton Mitchell might still make it through back to us one of the problems that we do run into then with a team like this when we take McLaren and James and Williams and then we get the two receivers to go with our quarterbacks in Josh Johnson's debut. We're the all of that part feels perfect. The tight ends feel perfect. Obviously we have bowers to go with Mendoza. Running back actually is a huge problem for this team in terms of getting enough viable beaks because once we're into this portion of drafts viable weeks at running back are very few in far between. Yeah, I agree with that. I'm looking at it. I don't think we're going to get Keaton to come back. And I'm understanding particularly, you know, it was the question I asked at the time and I think I was kind of following, especially with the two tight ends in one and two and then you have to take QBs at a point. We end up taking them in three and five and then again in nine. We only took running backs in four and six and then it's been received or seven eight 10 11 that 10 11 range we really like Keaton Mitchell does go here in 12 after we took Gadsden right before it. Peer Saul went a little bit later Matthew Golden went a couple guys I'm fine with Addison goes 1301 there. There was the potential for another receiver there at 1203 if we had a receiver need it's hard to have a running back need in this range. Jordan Mason, I do think would have been an intriguing pick and hindsight for that reason. I do think he's going to have like you were just kind of talking about it as usable weeks. I do think he's going to have enough work to have some real usable weeks, but that McClaurin Williams, seven eight turn where you had asked about Gidarian price and we were trying to figure out some other running backs in the directions to go there. Even that Josh Downs Rico doubtful conversation probably got to suck it up and take a running back at some point in those ranges. When you go, you know, tight and tight end and you're taking two quarterbacks in the first six rounds and all of those things because it is bleak at this point by ADP Zach Sharbinay who has a torn ACL or is rehabbing a reconstructed ACL. Woody marks who's bad. I was Sharbinay went. We didn't even get to take him if we wanted to. Woody marks who's bad, Taipei spears. You've always liked, but may also be bad. Some of the some of the evasion stuff is really, really good, but some of the actual yarded efficiency not so great. Isaiah Pacheco who was bad. Dylan Samson who I was excited about a whole bunch of targets and stuff, but Quenchon Junkins is on this roster. Not really a guy we want to target. Alfa Camarachona, Coleman, Tyler Algier. I think tank bigs, bigs, bigs, interesting, but yeah, it's it's bleak. I think we need to we need to take some running backs late. It's probably not the pick here. I think we have to find something else to do right now. You have Konsep C own near the top and Clil Shakir, either those guys. Very viable. White receiver picks here for me. Konsep C own at you, you grab him. He adds to the Quenchon Junkins pick a little bit of a browns. So then one of the things I really like about this and I guess we should talk about it after the next selection as we come back up. I guess that would probably be Spirors with this pick. Is there a Shakira in a vacuum if we had the running backs but I think not having them. This is about where Spirors goes. He's a good fit for this team. He probably is going to play more than people think and Tony Paller is going to play less. Yeah, I mean, it also allows us to add another horrible offense to our builds. So let's get a Titans running back into the team. We continue the theme with Daijai Spirors. We are looking great. We have the entire bottom of the league. You know we love a theme on stealing bananas, right, Sean? We do. We do. And it's one of these interesting plays where as soon as you have Quintan and Juddkin, some of the other Browns become a little bit more interesting. But they're also a little bit more interesting because this is the team that plays against Daniel Jones and the Annapolis Colts in week 17. If we're suggesting that that game context can be good enough to elevate one of our foundation players in the second QB and Super Flex. If we're saying they can score well enough for Josh Downs to be a potential tournament winner in that week. We also want the Cleveland Browns to be keeping up. This was the right price on KC Concepts Yone. The rookies in this range at wide receiver have tended to actually be very good plays for the floor, but also in 2026. Because of what I think are some very real and valid questions about how good the 2026 class is, they tend to be actually a bit underpriced compared to the last several seasons. Again, you come back in the end to the fact that the Browns offense will probably be bad. I think what I were talking before the show last week, one of the things we sort of agreed on is that there's a really strong likelihood that by week 17 neither should your sanders nor the Sean Watson will be the starting QB. If that's sort of your thesis, then maybe Browns should just simply be completely off of your board. Concepts Yone still just such an interesting play, especially sort of in this price range. The culture team that came out in the schedule analysis that I did as being one to really target. Obviously, if you're going to do that, you have to make some exceptions for the Cleveland Browns since that's the week 17 matchup. Yeah. I mean, I like it. We already had Arizona, the Jets, the Browns. Oh, do we not have a dolphin? Oh, darn, we don't have a dolphin. The Raiders, who are, I'm reading up from the bottom, the lowest projected by look ahead lines, implied scoring teams. The Cardinals, the Jets, the Browns, the Dolphins, and the Raiders. We had four of the five. We just added the sixth, the Titans. We did unfortunately miss out on a key dolphin player. There's this David H.H. Ed. This is the old way we got to take in. From there, Sean Panthers, Falcons, St. Steelers are the other teams that we need to consider to complete the bottom 10 for this roster. Just letting you know where we're at in terms of our goals in this particular draft. I like Tai Chi Spears. I do. One of the things I about him when I wrote the RB Ariards piece, his A dot was like minus 2.5 or something last year. I believe it was the lowest in the league if I'm remembering the research. Well, I mean, pretty clearly not yet. Negative 2.7. He amassed negative 135 Ariards in total. That's going to negatively impact your receiving efficiency. If you're wondering why Tai Chi Spears has really great evasion and then you go look at his damage and you're like, well, he doesn't actually put up yards. It's that. He's out there catching the ball three yards behind the line of scrimmage because they've had a non functional offense. And they have blocked anybody. So he's got to make multiple guys miss in the backfield. Just to get a zero yard game. I mean, it is, I wrote all about this stuff in the area and stuff is a concern. Ideally, that's not such an issue in a new offense this year. This is a player who has had legitimately interesting efficiency throughout his young career despite basically nothing in the way of production. Now it is another tough offense. And as you're saying, China's kind of like the pick that made sense by ADP and where we're at and we needed a running back. You weren't exactly pounding a table for him. And yet, I mean, you've always liked him. He's always had over 0.32. Mistakles forced per touch three years in a row. That's a really high number. The yards after contact stuff down quite as great, but he's going to be elusive. So we get some explosive plays and a more functional offense this year at a spears. That's the hope. If nothing else, you should get some receptions when you're talking about where we're at and usable weeks and some of that stuff. That's why I really did like the pick. If you get a Pollard injury, potentially you get some handcuff appeal, right? Some contingent upside. So I could see a lot of ways where we look back and say that TaiJ Spears pick at 1403 actually was a pretty big one for this build. Dylan Samson just went there in the 15th. We still had him in the queue. Would have been an interesting name to tack on. I just really don't like a lot of the backups in this range of ready backs. Do we, I mean, I, there are some later running backs that we really like. I think we could do a Martian Lloyd thing. You have Jaden blue in the queue already and you have Sean Tucker in the queue already to Mont Clayborn. I love. I'm with you on, especially on a homestead right Davis in there goes late. We've talked before you want to avoid the zeros and the running backs late 10 to be zeros. But I mean, you can even grab the Adam Randall really, really late Taj Brooks really late is an interesting one. You just threw Jonah Coleman into the queue at the bottom of the queue. He is the one by 80 p. I think he's going a little high there ahead of. Some other interesting names, although I mean, I've expressed the case that I do think he's going to have a little bit of a role. And then you're talking about some contingent based upside. If something were to happen to dobbins again, which we know has been a recurring issue for him, unfortunately, are you liking the receivers? I guess I would take Coleman here. You and I both think that he's going way too early, but this is almost the only spot where we would take him. And we do actually like him in a vacuum. So if this is a team where you need a running back in this area, and it's almost the only type of team where we would ever get him and we do think he's good, then I think it's a good fit. Yeah, let's do it. We'll take him there. Yeah, it's hard to justify that versus like Ray Davis going like in the 200s. It's very confusing in terms of, you know, a clear number three. I do think, like I've said, I do think Jonah Coleman is going to have a role. There's some contingent upside that we're playing into there as well. Braille and Alan Brian Robinson go behind him. We obviously have Breeze Hall in the roster. Brian Robinson is not all that exciting. Swings back around. Top receivers in the queue for us right now. Travis Hunter, Trey Harris, really like both those. Trey Harris, a lot later ADP running backs. I mentioned blue clayborn Tucker Ray Davis and M. Johnson. All those guys ADPs are quite a bit later if I'm not mistaken. From an ADP perspective, do you like Hunter here? Well, I don't think we would probably take both Hunter and Harris. And even though Harris is later, he probably isn't come back. Harris is the guy who goes off of the homes. Hunter actually goes off of the tearing the chlorine pick. Which way do you want to do it? I don't mind taking Trey Harris at all with the correlation. If you want to pull him up, if that's, it sounds like that sort of your lean. But I think Travis Hunter is a fun play also. But we do select Trey Harris there. I think Trey Harris is really interesting. I'm writing up the chargers for my off season ceiling signals post. I've been writing it up today. I wrote up Trey Harris today. I mean, the way that I went through it when I went through the projections is if you told me at the end of the year that Trey Harris is just like, at that point, we just think he's clearly better than Quentin Johnston. I mean, that's not an outcome that should surprise anybody. We've talked about that he's clearly better than Lamaconky. Yeah. Okay. So Sean's going to go even further than that. I think the market, I mean, that's not the most likely thing. But if you told us that at the end of the year, people wouldn't be like, oh, no, that's impossible. It'd be like, I mean, these guys were drafted to do it about the same thing. I don't know if people would say, oh, no, that's, uh, I think they would maybe say, oh, no, that's impossible, basically. But yeah, I mean, go back to the prospect profile. Again, I think this is one of the things Sean knew and I talked about off the air last week. But insane abnormal parod efficiency at all missed in 2023 and 2024. He was over three yards per target, uh, years per out run in 2023. He's over five in 2024. And people wrote that off as a product of a gimmick offense. One of the ways I defended that was saying you could have gave him a ton of empty routes and the production would still be very strong. You don't have a five plus yards per out run without having the stuff that makes production important to wide receiver prospecting the stuff that we look at. I mean, he can turn his skills into yards and touchdowns. That's what predicts itself. Well, that's the stuff that matters earlier at Louisiana Tech for three seasons. He posted a two plus yards per out run in each season. He only had like nine routes the first year. But the other two years meaningful volume, two plus yards per out run, both of those years. finished his college career with 29 receiving TDs, vertical efficiency, mostly at higher eight odds. I mean, it's stuff that overlaps a little bit with Quentin Johnston. He didn't have a very good year last year, but we saw his routes coming on and we saw Quentin Johnston's fading late in the year. I think the market is doing too much looking at 2025 roles when it was clear that they sort of progressed throughout the year, the young guys, including Harris and maybe more Aronde Gadsden did more late in the year. A lot of people are writing off the lad and QJ late season stuff because they, that are passing game, it didn't work and there was a lot of offensive line injuries and all those things. That, that may be true, frankly, but even if that is true, you have to acknowledge that like you have a really good receiver here going into year two that they spent capital on and was progressing in year one. And I think people are just sort of ignoring that, that side of it, which is, I'm not saying for sure, the, the tray Harris is going to be better. I'm not saying that you should draft tray Harris higher. I do find it nice to play the tray Harris ADP much later when this is a pretty ambiguous passing game. I think they're going to throw to the backs a lot too, which, you know, that's why we talked a lot about him. I'm having him to NK Mitchell. So I'm, yeah, relative to cost. You mentioned Quentin Johnston earlier. I don't, I don't, I mean, I'm way more interested in drafting Harris at the opportunity cost we just took him, then QJ at the opportunity cost where we were going to have to take him. And some of the guys who come off immediately afterward are interesting. Trey Tucker, someone who I think should be getting a bit more attention, especially in Bestball with the way that he offers both a bit of that veteran safety in this range and the vertical ability. As El Boston is a pretty good arbitrage play really on our pick, Concepcion. And then Ryan's annoyed, pretty fun as well with how much production Dallas is probably going to put up Travis Hunter last in the mid 17 of each and see if that ADP holds through training camp. Jane blue unfortunately picked March on Lloyd, Sean Tucker, Ketron Allen. That's okay. We still have a couple of their running backs. We're looking at a beta with three picks to go. We're probably going to go running back, running back in 17 of 18, especially because Eli Stauers is gone and Ketron gone a long, long time ago in round 13. And explain to me why, why Ray Davis is this Barry, he actually has a pretty, I mean, it's a compelling profile for a handcuff and granted if you get that job with the James Cook injury, you still are looking at Ty Johnson, but we've already witnessed what Cook can do in that scenario. And Ray Davis is not nearly as explosive as James Cook as you wouldn't expect him to replicate the explosive scoring the Cook has. Ray Davis might be a better receiver. Yeah, he's done some really fun stuff in the past game. 30 rush TDs last year in this offense, 32 the year prior. James Cook's going in the first round, basically on early second in some formats, basically on rush efficiency and rush TDs. If he gets hurt, Ray Davis appears to have a clear lock on that side of it. I mean, I think Ty Johnson would play a decent amount, but I think Ray Davis, I'm with you last year. I was making the case that Ty Johnson's presence was a pretty big concern for Davis this year. I'm looking at it from the perspective that we have back to back 30 rush TD seasons in this offense. Joe Brady, the new head coach now, the addition of Pete Carmichael, even as an offensive coordinator and some are seeing that as a possibility for more pass volume to the running backs. They've always used the running backs interchangeably in the past game. Or at least that's the way I viewed James Cook's receiving and lack of like strong targets per out run that show intent. I think they they they're the intent they show James Cook is as a runner. 309 carries last year. They think he can be such a dynamic efficiency based runner. They get him the ball as much as they can by handing it off to him. And then when it comes time for the past game stuff, they're okay, giving it a little bit of a breather. They're okay, rotating other backs. They don't see his receiving skill set as being like he has to be on the field for them to call certain plays. They'll call that stuff with Ty Johnson and Ray Davis who in 2024, both had a bunch of ariards last year their numbers came down. James Cook's ariards went up. It's been very interchangeable with those guys, which is positive for Davis in a handcuffed type conversation. And then again with the rushing touchdowns. Yeah, Josh Allen would have a ton. Ray Davis could have plenty. Davis Sean did take there as it swung back around. He took Emmett Johnson as fast as possible. We haven't got him on the last couple of drafts and we do have Patrick Mahomes and Xavier Worthy on this team. So I think I could have been convinced this time around. I did mention a little bit ago. But Demon Clayborn was also on the board there. We really like him. What do you think about Emmett Johnson? I guess I'm a little concerned about the usage. I'm concerned he could be one of these guys. It's a little bit of a zero in the late rounds for Bestball. Feels like more of a redraft play maybe to me. However, we talked a little bit about how Emory, Demar Cotto, more of like a show. Shotgun runner. Rain against a lot of light boxes and stuff. He's got rushing efficiency, but it's one of those, you know, third down, pass down profiles where he's running in not, you know, typical rushing situations. Obviously we know that brush chart Smith was viewed as mostly a pass down player last year. When I did the projection, Emmett Johnson to me felt like the handcuff for the Ken Walker rush work. Like, I don't know who the next guy would be. It seems like it would be Emmett Johnson, although he is a rookie and like he could be the other thing you could see when you do the projection is he could be fourth in line. You know, they could still want to use brush art Smith who could be active on game days because of his kick return ability. And they did use brush art Smith at a really high clip when he was actually on the field. Like you know, like 100 routes, but at a 30 plus percent targets per route. Like when they ran him in route, they were very likely to throw him the ball. That's the kind of thing that shows intent as we were talking about. I think maybe he's getting written off a little too early in terms of his career, not in terms of him having major fantasy value in 2026. Emmett Johnson's a little bit more of a do everything for sure to Smith, maybe not viewed as a strong runner. So I guess I have concerns with where I have it. Johnson sits in the depth chart. Do you see similar concerns or are you in or are we kind of just playing into uncertainty there or are you optimistic that he's going to be ahead of brush art Smith and potentially even ahead of Democrat? Yeah, that's kind of in terms of our discussions a week ago on the show. That's probably the main area where I would probably push back a bit. You currently have just very low target volume for all the non-walker guys, which I think is most likely to happen. I do think they want to get Ken Walker involved as much as humanly possible. But the 20 targets for D. Mercado 18 for brush art Smith, 9 for Emmett Johnson, I guess that would be surprised if Johnson doesn't have 35 targets this year. And even with the other two backups being guys with clear receiving profiles and the intent to get brush art Smith the past game work last year, that's exciting. But I could be wrong about this. It'll be interesting to track how training camp is going. I guess I don't know that brush art Smith is guaranteed to make the team. Emmett Johnson for me is very similar to Bucky Irving with the obviously huge caveat of the fact that Bucky Irving is someone who broke the different archetypes that we look at and came through and had that sensational rookie season when it wasn't super likely. And so to simply have this sort of elite agility and good metrics despite not being a plus size athleticism back, I mean the plus size athleticism stuff matters for a reason. It hurts you to not have that. We're about to come back up. So let's talk about these last two picks. Then I would kind of like to come back to this Emmett Johnson discussion. It's one because I'm sort of close with the chiefs that I could easily just be completely wrong about because of being too close to what's going on there. You being too optimistic on chiefs rookie? No. But what are you thinking in terms of the build here, what position are you wanting to attack? What do you think that were weak? One of the players who usually pick here is Pat Bryant and just like every time it kind of feels like he's one of the like straightforward picks to get. Yeah. I think our three QBs and three side ends are fine. We do already have six running backs as well. So I don't feel like we really need to push that a ton, but we could take a seventh. But I mean, to get Spears, Jonah Coleman, Ray Davis and Emma Johnson now behind Breast Song, Quinchon, Judd Kins, I don't think is, you know, horrible by any means. There aren't really a lot of other wide receivers. I threw some, you have some running backs in the queue. I added Taj Brooks and Trey Benson. Tray Benson would be a, if he gets. I actually think he's kind of interesting, huge swing. I have not even thought about taking him once until this particular team where I feel like maybe we need a little upside. We have six receivers as well, but I was thinking maybe Pat Bryan is the one that we can't hit and then we'd have to make a decision on running back on the way back. Does that like go seven, seven, three, seven, seven, three? - Yeah, I like that for this team. Let's go ahead and take Bryan there. It seemed like it early in the off season work, obviously, of OTAs, you have many camp, what have you. That there was concern that the Kaelin Black pick was just a purely wasted pick for the 49ers, but then he came on and it was more like Jordan James is not a thing. And with Christian McHaffery being both old and having that injury background, the Kaelin Black is one of these guys who could fall into the goal line work. Basically all the work, but all the work for him would not be receptions. It would just be touches, but it would be touches potentially around the goal line for one of the most prolific offenses in the NFL. That's kind of my thought on him. I do like Brooks. I guess I'm not optimistic, Ben Sinol stay healthy for anybody, but maybe on the. - Yeah, let's take Kaelin Black. He's one of the top guys by ADP as well. It's actually kind of a little bit of a decent value if you will in the 20th round. Jordan James did just go, you know, Holan he's gone. I see James Connor go off the board. See, I would say Terry Benson, the head of James Connor, but yeah, maybe Benson can never stay healthy. He was somewhat interesting. I think the black thing as the Jordan Mason play of 2026, Jordan Mason circa 2024, when Christian McHaffery last got injured, makes sense. And this is a fine way to close this team. So our final roster, before we circle back to that Evan Johnson conversation, Patrick Mahomes, Daniel Jones and Fernando Mendoza at QB. Breesaw, Quinshaw and Juddkins, Taijay Spears, Jonah Coleman, Ray Davis, Emmett Johnson, Kaelin Black at Running Back. We wind up getting Taijay and Ray Davis as the veterans and then three rookies in Coleman, Johnson and Black late. Terry McClaur and Jameson Williams, Josh Downs, Xavier Worthy. I just want to say those four right there. I mean, that shows we start waiting until round seven in this format to hit wide receiver. McClaur and Jameson Williams, Josh Downs, Xavier Worthy, to me feels like a very abnormally strong top four when you're waiting until wide receiver, until round seven to address wide receiver. We grab KC, Concepts Yone, Trey Harris, and Pat Bryant to round out the wide receiver room in the later round. So in terms of, oh, and then Titans were Brock Bowers, Trimic Bride, Aronda Gadson. In terms of the round by round, it went Bowers, McBride, Mahomes Hall, Daniel Jones, Judkins, and then late seven, we finally go receiver with McClaur and Williams at that turn, Jameson Williams. Then we went Mendoza, Josh Downs, Xavier Worthy and Gadsden, Concepts Yone, that was a run where we didn't take a running back for several rounds, stretch seven, seven rounds stretch. Kind of regretted that. We talked a little bit about that, but Concepts Yone, we grabbed spears on the way back. Jonah Coleman and Trey Harris. Then we go Ray Davis and Emma Johnson at that turn. I'm giving Sean a little crap about taking another Kansas City Chiefs. Rookie will have to get the rest of his thoughts there. Pat Bryant, Kaylen Black in the final two rounds there at that final 1920 turn. So back to Emma Johnson, Sean. You were, I love that you were, by the way, before we, before I pass about to you at Emma Johnson, I love that you were paying attention to the correlation. We don't always do a great job of that. We have them at homes. Worthy, Emma Johnson with the Trey Harris and Doronda Gadsden bring back. You were talking about some other stuff that we were building in there. We have both of our other two quarterback, Stack Dangle Jones with Josh Downs for an Andalanta with Brock Bowers. You do want to try to get that stuff when you get it or when you can. We maybe aren't quite as heavy on that stuff as, the people in the basketball community that really pay heavy attention to that stuff in a lot of our drafts. And yet, when we can do it this way and still take players we really like, I love the way that those teams come together for sure. We're a little bit more profile-based rafters, of course. Anyway, good work on that. But back to you on Emma Johnson. 35 targets, as I was looking as you were saying that the guy who led the team in targets last year for the running backs had 35. This guy you just said you weren't sure as a lock to make the team, Richard Smith. Pacheco had 26, cream hunt had 25. Those two guys combined for 51. Cloud Awards, Alair only had two, not a high running back target right there. And there kind of hasn't been. I ended up with 46 for Walker. You mentioned 2018 and nine for Deemercato Smith and Emma Johnson. You mentioned a lot of targets for Walker. I will say those three numbers combined for 47. So I have the and silvery running backs, basically getting half the targets and then Kenneth Walker getting the other half. There's a lot of offenses where I'm significantly heavier on the number one. But I think as you were talking through it, you were kind of alluding to this idea that Deemercato having 20, Richard Smith having 18 and Emma Johnson having nine is not the way you would rank those secondary running backs. It's not. And it's not because I don't think that season will start out that way. One of the things that's kind of fun about the chiefs for this year and needs to be fun in a way because they've done such a poor job of building out their wide receiver and tied end depth is that they finally have running backed up and they have some fun names here and they could throw to the backs in a way that they haven't. Which again, it's crucial when there are probably only so many targets that rice and worthy are going to vacuum up. Now, hopefully for us, it's a lot for worthy because we have him with my homes here. I think that Emma Johnson is a really fun play for the second half of the season. You mentioned that he's a better selection in Redraft. I would agree with that. Although one of the interesting things about Redraft is I think there's a potential for people to draft him late, cut him, not get him back. It probably, it's just such a unique thing in a situation with Rashad Penny a few years ago where he was kind of in that time period where people couldn't even add him back and he was the playoff league winner, tournament winner was almost on no teams because he was draft. He was dropped during the kind of locked period. - You're talking about in the FFPC main event where if you drop after a certain week, whatever it is, week 11 or something, no one else can add them, the rest of the way. That same year, I buddy Pete Oversett and our other buddy Eric Bimefore had a team that had Rashad White on it. It was a zero RB build that finished, I think, six then one of the big underdog tournaments. And to your point about Emma Johnson in Bestball, if you lock him in, if you lock one of these guys in, they're on your roster, whether you want to cut him or not, and then sometimes that parents out in how the things play out for the running back position. - It could be important that way. I do think he's gonna get off to a slow start because it will be tricky to execute what they need for a rookie. De Mercado is explosive, the situation with the chiefs, where the teams, you know, play these umbrella cover jobs or basically play prevent what have you, that should be beneficial to him if he breaks some runs early, they're gonna be pretty excited about it. It could easily be the case, the Rashad Smith, who also had a very fun profile coming in. A guy that I was very excited about last year is able to take a step forward in year two, despite being small, despite being someone they didn't really let touch the ball last year, even though they're sort of, that's a weird way to put it, but they're hand off running backs, right? Their bell cows were so limited. It could be that he's able to take this step forward. But Emma Johnson, one of these players, who he's not gonna be a young back, he's not gonna be a gregiously old like some of the people coming in. You look at the last couple seasons for him at Nebraska, 38 receptions in 2024 and 12 games, 46 last year and 12 games, a little more than three receptions per game in 2024, almost four receptions per game in 2025. This is a guy who went for over 1800 yards from Scrimmage and 12 games, and he averaged 150 yards per Scrimmage per game. Scored 15 total touchdowns. This is someone again who, it's not quite to the extent of Bucky Irving, where Bucky, you had multiple years where you're looking at him and saying, yes, he's small, he doesn't test well, but the peripherals are extraordinary. Maybe with him, you're looking at it and you're saying, okay, it's Oregon, they probably created some space. That won't be the same thing at the NFL level, but then we watch Bucky run at the NFL level and you're like, this dude is unbelievable. Emma Johnson is probably not that, right? And at the same time, he's a receiving back with plus agility operates well in space. The type of back who would seemingly be a very good fit for the Kansas City Chiefs, you have mentioned to me, and I think it's a very strong and important point, which is that as you move back, Tarek, the enemy, as the coordinator, I mean, maybe these coordinators have almost nothing to do with it, but if they do, I think we have some potential for Gimit plays around the goal line that go to non, I mean, basically, Basically, Rashit Ryzen's Aver, we're the other guys that you can run that style of play too, as well. But we don't have a Jart McKinnon on this team. We don't have a wide receiver who's not really a wide receiver, like they had with Cadaria's Tony. Probably either Bershart Smith or Emmett Johnson is going to score some of these design plays, these gadget plays around the end zone, where Patrick Mahomes is getting touchdowns to a guy who maybe didn't earn it, or is not a huge part of the offense. I think on this particular team, where we have Patrick Mahomes, you're kind of hoping that he does that, as opposed to maybe having Kenneth Walker run the ball in. The other thing here, and certainly, we've talked about this from the beginning of time, that we're not rooting for guys getting hurt. But as we're looking at the way our roster is structured down the back of it there, I mean, you're looking at Ray Davis as someone with immense upside if James goes down. I think with the Kansas City Chiefs, and certainly, if you're concerned about Kenneth Walker's health, you're worried about him in the second half of the season. If he goes down during that time period, where Emmett Johnson has had enough experience in the offense to be ready to go, I think that he ends up much more than De Mercado or Smith as being the guy who could potentially emerge as a star, who could be a bucket-erving type of player. There's some thinness to certain elements of the path, and if it comes down to a situation where Emmett Johnson isn't playing that much in 15, 16, and 17, and he's more of a 20, 27 play, that wouldn't surprise me at all. I'm certainly not saying, "You've got to go out and get him on your teams." But I do like what he brings as a receiving back. I do think he's a good fit for the Chiefs. I think there's a possibility that he even becomes one of these training camp stars, or maybe he is involved a little bit earlier than we're thinking, even though the running backed up chart is more exciting than it's been. - That makes a lot of sense. I'd like the idea of more of the sort of gimmicky stuff around the goal line last time, B&M was the OC running backs had 12 receiving touchdowns. That was a big spike year. It was more like four or five in his other years, but it's only been four total the last couple of years under Nagy, the last couple of years, they'd just been sort of hammering Karim Hunt. Maybe we'll get a lot of Ken Walker short rushing touchdowns, but that's not always been his skill set, the success rate stuff. And so if they have to find other ways to get the ball into the end zone, and especially with my homes coming off in ACL, and maybe not scrambling around for rushing TDs, I mean, a lot of that kind of stuff, those inside shovel passes, the different things they've done, jet motion things, whatever. They've used a lot of speed, a lot of different ways. That was a big part of what I came out with of my projection was a belief that there's going to be more touchdowns than I felt comfortable projecting for any of the individual players. And there was some room for some TDs to go somewhere. And naturally you think that's going to have a job set, which is, that is one take. That is one idea that could happen. It is certainly a possibility. No, it was a great, it was a great, 35 targets. 35 targets, a bunch of shivers, right in the stones. The Ray Davis pick, easy in the 17th round there. What was the different things we did in this draft? Were there any things that you wish we would have done a little bit differently? Well, you gave me such a hard time for the bad teams. Would you have preferred Bonaix and coming back with say a Traveon Henderson? So Bonaix instead of, well, Bonaix goes in that area between, where we took Patrick Mahomes and Reese Hall, sorry. Would you have preferred to take Camp Scataboo instead of Daniel Jones? You come back through, Daniel Jones is someone that we elevated because the Colts, unlike the other teams here, and unlike the other QBs, Sam Darnold, C.J. Straub, Cam Moore, Bryce Young, we don't expect those teams to score. We do expect the Indianapolis Colts to score. Maybe Daniel Jones is not the catalyst or the beneficiary when we think about how that works. Do you likely did in rounds five and six? That's an area where I think if you were at the back of the board here, some of the things about having a pick in that nine, 10, 11, 12 range in 2026 is a lot of fun. It depends on what format you're in, where maybe you do run into a little bit of a flat range or a range where you're gonna take some guys that you're not that comfortable with. The Daniel Jones, Quenchon, Judd, Cims, Picks, and five and six are almost certainly the ones that we were the least excited about when you prefer to do something like, take a Garrett Wilson, a player we still love, but who isn't one of those bad offenses? Would you have any willingness to take on the league neighbors, someone who, I mean, is getting massively pounded, but probably one of the best five fighters he was in FL to reach for a moment millenium. One of the things that you look at here with these selections is that if you don't want the guys that we picked, you have to actually go a full, like a half round to a full round to find someone else who is more palatable, certainly more exciting. I don't think I had a real issue with those picks. I did mention at the time that my inclination just from a vacuum was to prefer Z. Flowers, Garrett Wilson, Teteromic Millenium, you mentioned Malik neighbors. Flowers went between our Daniel Jones and Judd, Cims, Picks. But in terms of the actual structure, after we took Judd, Cims, I think it became fairly clear that it was a solid pick because we didn't have a lot of other spots in the next several rounds where we felt, oh, running back was the right pick either, and Judd, Cims is a fine pick there. So I think Basel Tutton have been the two guys you talked about. I think David Montgomery would have been as well, which I know you don't, but I will throw him out there as a guy that had an ADP right around there and went after Trayfan Henderson, went in that range after the Judd, Cims picked. The Andre Swift maybe even a little bit more concerned about him than say like Montgomery, as far as veteran Deadzone Baxco, Montgomery, the bet is purely on volume for Bestball. Daniel Jones I think was a key pick and I think Judd, Cims, wind up being a key pick. We needed to get that other QB there and I think we needed to get another running back in that range. It does kind of go back to the tight end, tight end start. It goes back to some of the other decisions that we made. It's tough to pick from the back because I don't know that we, I mean, where should we have taken a running back? It is sort of the question. Instead of McBride, maybe we bring Omarian Hampton way up to who we both really like. Instead of Bowers, we take Jonathan Taylor. I mean, like Bowers at 10 is a pick I want to make and I want to build a team with Bowers in the first round. Ash and Gen T Jonathan Taylor go at the turn before we're able to get back up and then James Cook is the next running back pick after we take McBride Hampton a little ways later. You're in a different running back group at that point or after that point, you get into Barkley, Chase Brown, Devon H.N. Ken Walker. I mean, and again, most of the guys have 80 pieces of the two three turn. I think you start Jamir Gibbs, you start at B. John Robinson, you feel like there's running backs to pick when you get to the two three turn. You get to the one two turn, you don't necessarily feel like the running backs are the picks. And then when you get back there at late three, you're through that next year. And we end up taking Breeze Hall at 403, but I do think how to navigate running back from the back part of the draft in these rooms is certainly challenging. There's a lot of receivers that I wanted to take at various points and I like the you had us on a non receiver thing. I mean, maybe the pick for me is Terry McCloren at 710, which I told you after the fact, but that would have been the pick I would have said, just like Zay Flowers and those guys were the previous round. AJ Brown was the, you know, the turn before that. Somebody I was excited to potentially take at 310. McCloren, someone we took at 710. We were talking about Jadarian price. Jalen Warren went 712. He's one, I think we maybe could have, we could have taken it 710 in a build like this. I do think the two Steelers backs. I mentioned doubt a little while later, our undervalued in full PPR relative to Aaron Rogers throwing so many passes to the backs. Last year 85 to Kenneth Gainwell, 45 more to Jalen Warren. And those guys also scored some touchdowns. I mean, Rogers is going to audible to some runs and put them in good spots. He's going to throw to them in the flat in the green zone. And they're going to catch a few TDs. It's something he's done more or less his entire career. Aaron Jones used to make a living off that stuff. Kenny Gainwell was a, you know, a pretty big hit last year because of it. I don't know how much I love the Rico Dotto talent profile right now, but between, you know, maybe Warren at seven or doubt or 10 on this build to try to get an RB three. I think there were some pads to consider running back in those spots. But I like the receivers we took. I mean, I was talking about that after as we were going through. I think getting McClure and Williams downs worthy. All in round seven through 11 when we pushed wide receiver, when we went Bauer's McBride, when we got Breast Hall and Judkins, when we got my homes and Jones. at quarterback. I mean, the fact that we were able to come out of that with a McCorn Williams downs worthy top four at wide receiver in a format where you only have to start to to flexes, but we have Bowers McPride. We took Gadsden not long after that. We're thinking the tight ends are going to help the flex. Certainly, we took a lot of upside plays at both wide receiver and running back late. I mean, those four receivers, it feels like very adequate receiver depth. And I don't really want to give that strength up the fact that we were able to get that in addition to the early tight ends. So I don't know. I mean, this is one of those teams. I think the last team we we drafted, I was more down on and I was joking a lot about the bad offenses, but this is one of those teams we get done and I look at the way it came together and I do feel like it's a really fun team. It tells an interesting story. If you're going to build a Bowers McBride team, you know, thinking through how you want to do it, making sure to do a little bit more prioritizing the running backs there in the early rounds, which I think for a lot of our listeners who are just playing redraft in their home leagues and things, I think that translates a little bit. And the earlier rounds, if you get to that wide receiver or running back decision, I do think prioritizing the running back this year makes a little bit of sense. It's something that people have been talking about in the best ball landscape all off season. There's a lot, you know, to take from that. Having said that, I do think you can take the early receivers for the record, but certainly at a certain point, the wide receiver, the early wide receiver tears really the I mean, I'm still trying to figure out Sean how I really want to play around one and two, but the the Jamar Chase is in the Pukin Akua's and the Justin Jefferson's and the AJ Browns, even as I mentioned, our guys that I want to have exposure to. But yeah, when you get into a range, we're talking about Breeze Hall versus the next receivers who went were George Pickens and Nico Collins and Lad McConkey. I mean, having a little bit of a bias toward the running back as you were keeping us on schedule with during that stretch, I think makes a lot of sense from a number of perspectives, frankly. But particularly as it relates to the wider receivers, we were able to get in round seven through 11. And so anyway, I'm a, I'm really optimistic about this. You got to have to, you know, you're going to have a little bit of a trade off somewhere. You're going to have a little bit of a weakness somewhere. We're probably a little thin at running back. But the fact that we got Holland Judkins gives us some stability. Those guys got a hit. We take some upside swings late. It's a little bit of that, you know, traditional zero RB feel late. Obviously, not a zero RB draft, but in terms of our RB three comes in round 14. We're, you know, we're going into those thin profiles and we're hoping that something pans out in a way that we know can happen at running back. It's the tenants that we've always talked about. If that's the trade off for us to get Bauer's McBride and to get those four receivers, we still were able to get and still have two anchor running backs. I don't know, man, I think it's a really fun built. It is a fun build. In this particular format, going in Bauer's McBride is kind of silly. But I think the silliness is going to make it a little bit unique. And then if you hit on something silly because these guys are transcendent players, then you're very well positioned to potentially win the tournament, right? You think about being able to still get Patrick Mahomes, still get Daniel Jones, quarterbacks for two of the likely highest scoring teams in football. You get Breeze Hall and Quenchon Jenkins to the biggest talents at running back. The interesting place later in the draft for me at running back because you're always kind of looking at pockets and saying, okay, people want to take running backs earlier this year, but it doesn't really create problems from the perspective of in the early rounds, you have choices. And then in the dead zone, you don't really have choices. And that's kind of the way it's always been. A rhetorical move back in the direction of running backs has not actually changed your draft landscape very much. You're still looking at a limited number of choices in the middle, right? And those limited choices have red flags or else they would be not in the middle. They'd be up with the superstars, right? Traveon Henderson, Basel Tuton, those are interesting picks in a range where obviously those picks could be wrong. If there weren't the potential for them to be wrong, they would be priced up dramatically. The other little place that is fun is that RJ Harvey, Jonathan Brooks range. Again, those picks could be almost worthless. If that wasn't a risk, then those guys would be much more expensive. In our case for this particular draft, because we were kind of playing this Fernando Mendoza potential fall. And then when he does fall, this is a fall round ADP value in kind of a different landscape for quarterback ADP values than really any other because it's super flex. You get the fall round value and you get that combination with your first round player. You have to take that. So you're not going to take Harvey or Brooks there. And then when they go in that four pick interim, I mean, that's those are just kind of the breaks, right? You don't get to then choose from them. We take Josh Downs who went with one of our Cubes. Also, that's how you sort of build that. If one of those guys had come through, then we would have had a more interesting decision. We'd have some more running back firepower. We also have additional risk onto the team because I don't think there is, I don't think it's too controversial to say that RJ Harvey or Jonathan Brooks has the potential to blow Josh Downs away from a scoring perspective, but that also Josh Downs is just safer. So I mean, we have safety because of the way that it worked out. We have correlation because of the way that it worked out. When we go back to the top of the draft here and kind of, you know, pushing the conversation in a direction that our non super flex listeners might be a little more interested in, you mentioned Jonathan Taylor going to the 201. You mentioned Ashton, Gentie. Gentie, one of those sort of controversial players, he belongs on one of these offenses that you described as not being particularly good, or at least the implied points come in toward the bottom. You have Jonathan Taylor projected a little bit above him. That tends to be the way that it also works out from an ADP perspective. You had made the case to me and maybe we talked about this on the show as well. But this idea that Jonathan Taylor is a little bit undervalued from a receiving perspective that a lot of fantasy managers don't realize either a how many passes he caught last year or B what the context actually is for this offense with him. I guess I'm in love with Gentie from the perspective of what he could be even when you have some of the red flags in terms of how Kubiak made the Seattle offense run last year. What Kubiak has done some things even recently with, I mean, Alvin Cameras peripherals when Kubiak was calling the shots were terrible and yet he still put up some big fantasy points. This maybe is unfair isn't really the right word, but I don't want to frame it into a aggressive perspective, but you have an 11 target projected difference between these two players. I guess from an enthusiastic perspective on Gentie, I'm hoping there's like a 30 target difference between him and Jonathan Taylor. How should we looking at Gentie and Taylor or making that pick in the first round of redraft or regular bestball and maybe we're even considering those guys versus a Jackson Smith and Jigba who at least in the last week in the BBT has fallen behind Brock Bowers and or you might be trying to make that decision versus a Christian McCaffrey pick where you're saying, okay McCaffrey is going to score more points, but it's my first round pick like how much injury risk do I want to take or maybe you're saying Christian McCaffrey is is getting up there and his rushing numbers last year were terrible. Maybe even fees healthy. Gentie and or Jonathan Taylor could edge him. Can Gentie or Taylor take down a healthy McCaffrey this season? A healthy McCaffrey is challenging because of the way his receiving role is actually running routes down the field and has all these air yards and these elements that I was talking about in that running back air yards piece. I mean it over 100 targets, but he also had a very substantial eight dot in the second most air yards in whatever my database went to like 2014 in the last like 12 years or 13 years or whatever. The only season better was that David Johnson 2016 season. And so he had over 90. So context you're projecting 266 air yards to McCaffrey. Jamer Gibbs is at 51. Yeah, and I actually am vaguely optimistic about Jamer Gibbs getting a little bit more air yards that you said he's 51 because he's one of the next highest ones I have. It's like I have some for Kyron Williams. Some for Ramajar Stevens because he had him last year. I don't know that I necessarily have all the air yard stuff dialed in as well as I would have liked but because I kind of just do the running back eight out somewhat quickly sometimes. But I do have Jonathan Taylor in the negative Ash and Gentie head over negative 100 last year or under negative 100. I have him slightly in the positive. But that's a big gap in terms of where you're actually catching the ball and therefore what the receiving efficiency can look like. I mean, you need a lot less ball in hand when you're catching the ball down the field. And so a healthy McCaffrey going to get a lot of targets and he's going to get a lot of them down the field or at least some of them down the field in a way that helps the yardage quite a bit. Taylor, I was just looking at the target rates as you were asking about Taylor versus Gentie. I have Gentie at a 13.3% target rate. I have their place per game. among my lowest in the league because Kubeak has had an offense. Has that offense is that if tend to run a little slower, a lot of the shanty entry have, they use a lot of motion, they get under center, they do a lot of these things, pre-snap, that tend to slow things down, and then you also have the rookie quarterback element. I think you're going to have a rookie quarterback a lot. And that, I ended up with a pretty negative PROE because Kubeak had one last year pass rate over expected. They're expected pass rates going to be higher because they're wind totals low. They're going to have to throw in some situations, but I do think they're going to run relative to situation at a decent clip because Kubeak's tended to do that. And again, because rookie quarterbacks tend to drive things that direction. So those are some of the concerns with the total number of dropbacks. When you talk about genty having whatever it was, 13 more targets than Taylor, I do have my 13.3% target share. I have Taylor at a 10.5%. So almost a 3% point gap, but think we'll find as I dig through this and try to do some quick math because I have two quarterbacks projected for Vegas. But total number of dropbacks is going to be meaningfully in favor of the cults, which it looks like I'm just below 600 dropbacks for the Raiders on the cult side, 619. So about 20 extra dropbacks, not a massive additional rate. I do have them as a little bit on the run heavy side because of Jonathan Taylor as well. I don't have their play volume massive. They do have a quarterback coming off in a kill East hair. And they didn't play very fast last year either. But to the Taylor point and why his target share is in the double figures because he was never a running back that I would project for 10.5% double figure target share. 412 routes last year was first season in his career over 300. They were third most among all running backs. He set career highs and targets, receptions, receiving yards. Even while his per out stuff wasn't great, his targets per out run were not great. He's just out there running a ton of routes because they wanted to keep him on the field. I think they felt he was a better pass protector than DJ Giddens. They had a mere abdulla second on the team when targets was 17 though. They actually had a receiving back on the team this year's backups are not a mere abdulla as far as running back receiving down pedigree. It's Giddens and it's new rookie Seth McGowen. So yeah, I'm a little bit into Taylor, especially as they got rid of pitman. And I'm kind of thinking about how the receiving volume might work out. This was a low key, very concentrated offense. Only six guys in the offense had a hundred routes last year. Moilly Cox was sixth at 117 as that like second tight end. But other than that, it's the five eligible receivers and an 11 personnel that got all of their routes. It was pitman, downs, Pierce, Tyler Warren and Jonathan Taylor. And I do think with pitman gone, they're going to do a little bit more rotational stuff to fill that I think. But you're likely to see things with a concentrate on downs, Warren, Pierce is the vertical guy and then Taylor. Like I did come out of this projection feeling like the targets were going to be solid. So it's more about the Taylor projection there than being down on on genty, who's receiving role should be really, really high. But I have Taylor for 58 targets. That's a big number for him. Genty at 69. Fifth, it looks like I have my head at H& who I have pulling back. I have him ahead of Breeze Hall who comes in next after that. Had my head of the Pittsburgh guys who I have in the low 60s, both of them because I do think Aaron Rogers going to throw out of those backs. A ton, Jalen Warren and Dowdall. The only guys that have a head of genty are chased brown by a couple spots. He's had really strong receiving the last few years. And then B. John Robinson, Jumeer Gibbs and Christian McCaffery. So genty's receiving projection definitely high. It's more a question of how high do you think his target chart could get? I think 13.3% is really aggressive for a projection. I'm not really aggressive, but it's for like a base number. It's a strong projection. I don't think it's crazy to be like, yeah, I like this is how I use projections. I look at it and I go, yeah, I mean, he could go higher than this. He could go up to 15% 16, 17. Devon H& had like an 18% target share last year. I mean, it's not crazy in these offenses that don't have good receiving weapons for a guy like Ash and Genty to be the number two receiver behind Brock Bowers when their receiver, their wide receivers are Jalen Naylor and a bunch of, you know, Trey Tucker and a bunch of nobody's basically. So if that's the way Clint Kubiak decides to go with it, I certainly think when I project him, you know, where I did that there's room for him to have a real meaningful role. The Taylor thing, again, just I would do that as more optimistic on Taylor than pessimistic on Genty. The fact that Taylor's at 58, I mean, that's 11th most running back Taylor a few years ago. I would tell you when you wanted to be in on him for how efficient he is telling me for years, he's going to have a year like he did in 2025 where he's going to start hitting the long runs again and be a breakout rusher. I'd always tell you, the tough thing is I can only project him for like 40 targets. I mean, this is the pride of the first time I've ever projected him for 58 targets. It's a, it's a meaningful difference to his profile. I like both those guys at the one to turn for sure. Taylor was the one that I had in the queue with Bowers before you were able to hop on to the, to the stream today. But to put some numbers to that, you go back to Taylor's second season, which is the one where he was an absolute phenom. He had 51 targets. That was a career high coming into last year by 11. His second best season was only 40 targets. He did only play 11 games that second best season and his best time at other, you know, in other seasons. But he's had games seasons where he's been fairly healthy and had pretty meaningfully low receiving roles, including 2024 played 14 games yet 18 catches in 14 games. You know about 1.3 receptions per game. First couple years of his career, 2.4, 2.4, 2.5 receptions per game, then 1.9, 1.3. And then last year, 2.7 career high, you know, we get that jump up or getting we're approaching three receptions per game for Jonathan Taylor. That's great when you're talking about a guy who led the league in Russia, temps and led the league in Russian touchdowns and is a rushing phenom. So yeah, I mean, that's more, I think that gap that you were asking about more, I think about Taylor's specific projection being optimistic with the note that he ran the fourth most routes that were running back last year. I think Gentee was one of the three ahead of him, though, to be clear. As it relates to our specific team, it's pretty fun that you have Taijay Spears there with the 50 targets. When you go up to Tony Pollard, a player that you have outscoring him by about 40 points in PPR, you have Pollard for 31. I think that tracks pretty well with my intuition on it. Last season, Pollard 41 targets, Spears 51 targets. The combined snap share for these two guys above 100%. They played on the same play decent number of times. They also have Nicholas Singleton coming in. He went as the running back 64 in this draft. I think it's possibly a little unclear what his health will be like. And if he's a guy who is really expected to impact the Titans this season as opposed to more of a 2027 play. But as we think about Pollard and who gives back the targets, the go to one, the Al Robinson, I guess I would expect Pollard to give targets back, not necessarily Spears who granted benefits when the Titans have trailed our full-blown capitulation mode, but is also good enough at that part of the game that he should have with a better coaching staff, with a more competitive team. He should have designed targets in this offense, whereas Tony Pollard probably should not. Doesn't mean Pollard won't get any targets. But I think that what you've done moving him down into that 30 range makes a lot of sense. Is that kind of how the projections for the Titans played out for you where you're expecting the combination of carnell tape and then Wondell Robinson along with Calvin Ridley along with those rookies. So I know you're not excited about how the rookies performed last year, but this year they'll be second year players. There is that little bit of a step forward that the receivers will be a bigger part of this offense. It won't have to be a case where the Titans have so many targets to the running back position. Yeah, I think that the hope for everyone in Tennessee for sure. When Robert Solo was asked about Nicholas Singleton and Junu saying some nice things, then he said, but to be clear, Tony and TyJay are the bell cows of this football team and Nick Scott to compete his way in. He was talking about Tony and TyJ as the two guys at other points in the offseason and complimentary roles. And I think there's a pretty clear like Pollard was like a legit solid rusher last year. So I think there's a pretty clear thing here where it's like you would play Pollard on the ground and you would play Spears through the air. I mean, there's a different coaching staff, but Pollard ran at least 50% of the routes in each of the first five games right up until the game where Spears returned and then he never ran 50% of the routes again. He mostly sat in the 30s with Spears on the field and healthy. And again, that was a different offense, but it's just another sort of data point at how a different staff and a different group of people looked at how to utilize Pollard and Spears together. So yeah, I mean, I do see it as a little bit more meat on the bone for Spears than Pollard in the receiving game. because in part because Paulard's been the better rusher is really part of it as well. So that's kind of how I projected it. I didn't take a lot off of spears because there wasn't a lot to give. He only played the 13 games last year and they are talking about him like he's a part of this backfield still here. He'll be going into his age 25 season. Paulard going into his age 29 season. You know, not the only keynote, but definitely one interesting one. As far as rouse, I kept saying Jonathan Taylor was third, I mean, it was fourth and rouse. He was third and rouse. I'd said that I think at the beginning, but then I kept saying it wrong. It was only McCaffrey and Bijon Robinson who ran more routes. Chase Brown to Von H. Ange and Mirgibs and then Gentie was seventh. He ran 43 fewer routes, 12 to 359. Obviously a new offense, a new coach for Gentie in Vegas this year. I think he ran quite a few routes like percentage wise. I think that gets to and he ended up with 68 targets to 54 for Taylor last year because he got a way higher rate of targets per route. But I guess that's part of why their gap was closer from my projections in 2026 as well is I am seeing Taylor as running a lot of routes again. And so if he maintains a routes edge, it's harder for Gentie to gap Taylor in targets by as meaningful of a number as you had said when you mentioned, you know, maybe as many as 30. You have Colson, Loughland and Tramack bride projected into a similar area. You do have Warren down substantially from that. One of the things in looking at this build, if we don't take both Bowers or McBride or in a different world, if we don't take either one of them, we did have a shot at Loughland in three and past. We did have Tyler Warren and four and past. Do you prefer Jonathan Taylor in Tyler Warren over Bowers and Hall? Do you prefer Joe Burrow and Colston Loughland over Tramack bride and Patrick Mahomes? Yeah, that's an interesting one to think about. I didn't expect to, I think I told you this and maybe I mentioned it on the show, I didn't expect to be as high on Colston Loughland as I came out. And I felt like I'd have Loughland and Warren pretty close. I told you that from the early off season. I felt like that gap was a little bit wide and obviously really love Tramack bride. And I'm actually like, I mean, he's one of my favorite players from like a stylistic perspective. We've had a lot of fun talking about him on the Sunday night shows over the last couple of years as he's really, you know, emerged and didn't get a lot of exposure to him last year because I was so heavily in on Bowers out a lot of the high stakes teams. We were always wanting to get a Tramack bride, main event team. And I think we never ended up getting one together. We both had one like, at least one with other people. But anyway, that was a bummer because Bowers obviously had a tough outcome and then that made McBride into that much more of a hit with, you know, as the clear number one tight end. If I would have known Bowers was going to get hurt last year, man, I mean, I would have been massively in on McBride and I wrote that in a lot of places. Actually, that was a very specific point that I made. But I liked to the Bowers bet more even at a higher price. And so it's tough to like not, not be in on McBride again. I want, I'm like, I don't want to do that again. I love this player. I want to be in on that guy. When I went through the projection for the Cardinals, I ended up having a nuke as TD rates because their team total is so low because they have the hardest schedule in the NFL and they're, you know, probably going to play a rookie QB down the stretch and all of these things. So I originally had him like, look, he showed he can score a lot of touchdowns last year. I had him much higher and I had to completely nuke that down. I gave him a ton of targets. I gave him 30 more targets than both Harrison and Wilson, who I gave for the same, the same number, 98 catches again, etc. But he was also very low a dot guy. So the yardage doesn't compile in the same way as some of these other, you know, more dynamic, more, I don't want to say more dynamic. That's not the right word, but more vertical A dot tight ends because trimming brides extremely dynamic. But if you look like at my A dot here, I actually have more ariards for Loveland, even though I have 19 more targets for McBride than, than Loveland, because I have Loveland's A dot, almost two full yards per target higher. He's an above average guy that Lee average for tight end seven six. I have McBride at 6.7. I have Loveland at 8.5. So I have McBride 0.9 below Lee Gavrej. I have Loveland 0.9 above Lee Gavrej. You're talking about, you know, two yard gap there as a result. When I came through the projections for the Bears, really, I realized that I felt like that team was going to be very concentrated. It's something that was one of my big takeaways from the projections process. I had always thought that Burton's price was a lot of projection. Well, when you go do the projections, you're like, yeah, I mean, who else is going to run the routes? I mean, Cleef Raymond's 32. I didn't really realize that. He's always been an interesting efficiency player, but he's probably not even going to do it along with a long day as a kiss did last year in terms of the number of routes he was taking. He had Xavier and Thomas as a rookie third rounder who's pretty green. They add Sam Rouse. They have Colcomat, but I mean, Loveland getting all those routes late last year. I mean, Loveland's going to run a ton of routes. He's a clear ascending tight end profile had a great end of the year, age 21, rookie going into age 22 season. The J Jam McCarthy stuff, even going back to the college profile where he had a really good per out profile, but they didn't really do a lot. And then the final season, everyone talks about Michigan's quarterback room in 2024. Loveland's final season after McCarthy had gone pro. Their quarterback room is being like uncannily bad, basically. And so it's not Loveland's fault that his final season numbers were great. And so it was better numbers the two years prior with McCarthy. You're like, it was it was better with what J.J. McCarthy. I mean, obviously McCarthy had his merits. He ended up going in the first round of the NFL draft, but I do think the way that he assimilated last year to the NFL game, it just makes me that much more excited about Loveland. I mean, this guy must have been open dynamic in ways that are hard to explain. I did watch that team beat my Washington Huskies in the national championship. And Goulson Loveland had a great catch and run in the middle of field. And I was like, that's annoying. I had a big point in the game in the second half. Guy was a playmaker in college. Guy that was a playmaker last year. Came out of the projection with like I said, 19 fewer targets to McBride. 17 fewer catches. McBride's catch rate has always been a big strength of his. And at the lower eight ought definitely have a high catch rate. So of the 19 target gap, I have McBride catching 17 of those 19 balls, right? And yet Loveland winds up with more yards because of the higher eight ought and thus the higher yards per target. He was very efficient last year. He also winds up with a lot more TDs because of the team situation. He's going to be able to carry a higher TD rate because I can push more touchdowns onto the Bears projection across the board. I didn't spike Loveland all that high, although he does wind up with the most touchdowns of any tight end for me at 7.5. There's going to be guys to score 10. Have you think McBride's score is 10 again, then you know, you're in, right? But it did pull Loveland right up behind to McBride. Part of it is that touchdown part of it. Part of the reason he gaped Warren is similar to the McBride stuff. Warren's 8.6.4, even a little lower than McBride's. Same number of targets as Loveland, same number of reception, same catch rate. Warren's catch rate still strong. Loveland's was very good. But then the yards are a lot lower because the eight ought to a lot lower. That's what happens to the yards per target. It's still strong. Get the adjusted efficiency for Warren, for McBride. Maybe I should push McBride's yards for target even a little bit higher as I'm looking at these. But Loveland winds up a much higher yards per target than those guys. A higher touchdown rate. Bowers is second in touchdowns at 6.7. But again, same issue with the Raiders of it being an offense. It didn't score a lot of points. And so it was hard to push a lot of a really high TD rate for these guys to have 10 touchdown seasons. They have to really consolidate a lot of the projected TDs because the teams don't project to throw 30 touchdowns. I mean, it's challenging. So you're talking about close to half the TDs, maybe they may only throw 20 touchdowns. They're going to catch 10 of the 20. And yes, they're good enough to do that. But that's tough to get into a projection, obviously. And so Warren, I only have at 5.4 TDs. McBride 5.7. It looks like the next guys are Andrews and Tucker Kraft. I have at 6.0. Good offenses again. 80 targets for those guys. But they've always been high touchdown rates. They're guys that I have jacked up in their touchdown rate. It doesn't look like a season where a lot of tight ends are going to score a ton of touchdowns, frankly, because the good ones are in bad offenses. And I mean, someone will, the talent will transcend someone will will spike, but it's tough to get a projection that way. So anyway, in a base projection, Loveland did wind up coming out, looking great, man, looking really good. I think he's a really fun play. So yeah, back to your question of burrow and Loveland versus McBride and my homes. Obviously, my homes could be just as good as burrow if he's good on that ACL. He's done that before. But there's a big gap in my projections between those two. I would probably, I probably would lean burrow Loveland at that point because I do think the Loveland McBride gap as I've looked at it and I've wondered if I'm too hot on the Loveland stuff and gone back to it. And I do think it's probably a fairly narrow gap in a base projection. One of the things that makes the homes. side of that compelling is that the most fun plays for burrow coming back are Derek Henry and Zay flowers and they're expensive. Whereas, and then when you think about the bangles guys to go with burrow, Chase Brown to Marchase, T Higgins again expensive, on the chiefs charger side of it you have a lot of cheat picks that can potentially fill that out. That's a plus. One of the things you've mentioned several times and I think that listeners definitely want to be aware of is the schedule difficulty for the cardinals. I tell you a little sort of counter point when you really sticks in my head when you talk about the talent transcending for the Raiders. So one of the things that we talk about a lot is just that they play each other in week 17. That part is fun because obviously that's easy match up for both sides at least in theory. But the other thing is that the Raiders in 16 have the Titans. So the Raiders are going to the Raiders play in the AFC West. That part isn't that encouraging, but they're going to finish their actual fantasy schedule Titans cardinals. The cardinals are the really bad team in this juggernaut division with the Seahawks, the Rams and the 49ers, but they do get the second 49ers game in week 18. They're 15 16 17 is actually Jets Saints Raiders, which is about as easy as you can possibly get for the actual playoff component. So if you're a huge Tramik Breit van who's demoralized by the placement there with the cardinals and also just freaking out about Carson Beck, the tiny little silver lining Jets Saints Raiders to finish. I did just go look at McBride a little more and after talking about all that, Bump is eight out a little bit and as yards per target a little bit because I mean Tramik Breits superhuman. So I was able to make that gap a little wider there Sean. We can't we can't hate on Tramik Breit at any point. And I love that note about the playoff schedule for sure. So then Rock Bower is Tramik Breit anytime you do that. It's a fun team. Superflex. We got some QBs. We got some running backs. Quinchon Judkins projects very poorly in the Ben Gretch officials. We may get into that at some point in the future. But basically if you're drafting Cleveland Browns, you're hoping that they make a little bit of push in the right direction. This has been Selim Danes. Ben's got all of this work coming out. He's got the new pod with Jacob. He's got all of the ETR pods. It's got constant content that is fantastic. We've got lots of cool stuff including some more dynasty stuff coming out with Jesse at Rotoviz. 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