The Basement: Brad Olsen | Hitler’s Escape and the Road to Antarctica

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I love all the mysteries. We're going to get to those, but we're going to clear some stuff up, man. We're going to clear some stuff up. In 2001, you started a mockument recall ever since the world ended. About 186 people left alive in San Francisco after the plague. You played a guy named Santosh, who was Santosh, and how do you end up in a movie with Adam Savage? Yeah, that one just fell on my lap because I was friends and roommate with Calum Grant, one of the producers, and also stars of this film. It was just a handmade production, and I said, "Sure, why not?" Santosh is a name that I was given when I was in India. It's kind of my alter ego or Burning Man ply a name. And so they wanted to have a different name for my character, and they used that. Santosh was that, so that was your name? Yeah, a given name from Ocho at the Ashram in Pune, India. I believe that means contentment. That's right. You're very perceptive. Wow. Okay. Are you content? I'm very content and happy. It's also could be happiness in Hindi. You are, I mean, you're so positive, which is great because your work is so controversial. Show business. I got to ask you about the Viking screenplay. Did it go anywhere? What happened? I wrote the first of three episodes. It was going to be based on the sagas of Lee Farrickson. The first one was called Voyage to Vinland, and was about him actually discovering North America more than just long socks meadows up in Newfoundland. I think they went much further than that. I think so too. And it's based on the fact that on his ship, he had a slave from Germany named Teriker. And Teriker knew how to create wine from grapes. And they found grapes growing wild and created wine that they took back. And when he took it back with lumber, which is what they were originally going for, they called him leaf the lucky for the rest of his life, because he came back not only with the timber that they desperately needed for boat repair and houses and so forth, but barrels of wine. And because when he was away, his father Eric the Red passed away. Then leaf was the first born son. He had to stay and handle, manage the Greenland colonies. But his younger brother and sister both went back to Vinland. And his younger brother Thoravald was actually killed in an Indian attack. You should do a book on this. I should. At least the screenplay too. Yeah, because I'm an outdoor agent, so it's kind of in my blood. Yeah, it's traveling. I think people don't realize because you work that you're really an artist first. Like your mom was a watercolorist. That's right. And then you you did a cartoon series called the Earthlings. What was that about and do you still draw? I do. Yeah, and I produced a street fair for 25 years in San Francisco. And I drew the poster every year for that called the how weird street fair. We stopped doing it two years ago because we all moved away. But I do draw and I love art. And my mom was huge influence on my life and encouraged me to do artistic endeavors. And now the writing is kind of an extension of that too. Okay, Burning Man, you've been to all of them. What is your proudest construction on the plan? So in 1996, we were the first sound camp to build an art project called the Burning Alien. And we burned it in 1996. And is there a video that there are pictures of it? That's awesome. So I'll provide you. So I mean, you were going there when there's just a few people in the desert. You still go over here? I went three years ago. I didn't go this year, but I live by a ranch about a hundred miles away. So I can watch as the weather forms. And this was another bad weather here. It was. Yeah. 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Walk me through the day where you got actually got that envelope that got that check. Yeah, so it was a no-fall eviction and owner move in. And even though San Francisco has very strong renters rights, you can't really fight that unless I was a teacher or say an essential service. So we got the boot. But by getting the boot, there was also a payout. And that payout, I thought, well, when life gives you lemons, why don't you make some lemonade. And so I thought I have not been to South America or Antarctica yet, and that finance my expedition. But I had a couple months on the front end. So I bought a Ford Expedition that was already fully outfitted with my girlfriend at the time. And we did five countries in South America and drove all the way down to Ushuaia where we got passage on the sailboat to Antarctica. How does a kid from Arlington Heights where everything is flat? Yeah. Decide to make that trip. Well, because I moved out west right after college, and I'm a big snow skier, so I wanted to be in the mountains. And my ranch now in northwestern Nevada is close to Lake Tahoe, and I get a season pass every year. So really, it's skiing that got me out west. So you didn't go down there looking for weird stuff. Well, I did go down there looking for weird stuff. I did think, well, to Antarctica. I think I'm the only researcher in this field that self-finance my own trip down there looking into all these mysteries, which I then put into my book. Okay, so you've got the expedition. You've got the girlfriend. You've got 3,000 miles between San Diego and the bottom of the world. You've never told the drive as a story. Like, so let's just start at the Sacred Valley. I just don't skip anything. Just take us on the trip. Sure. Well, first we had to fly into Santiago and purchase the vehicle, which I didn't even have any leads on. But there's a company down there called Suzy. Santiago that does help you build out a vehicle or look for vehicles and they check them out for you. And I hired them and they did help me with this acquisition. Then we set off north towards Peru, but we didn't know if we're gonna get over the borders 'cause it had Canadian plates. The guy who bought it, bought it in Quebec, Canada. - Yeah. - And drove it all the way down. And it was a good runner and it was fully outfitted for this kind of expedition. But we got to the Peru border first and we got through. And because my Spanish is kind of rudimentary, I would just have a stack of paperwork and they'd come to the car, we'd go in the office, he'd be rattle off in Spanish. And I'd just like, here's a packet of proof that I own the car and here's my license and all that. And they'd let us through. Maybe 'cause ignorance was bliss. I just didn't know what to say or what they were saying to me even. - Oh, you put a couple of bills at the bottom of that pile. - I never had to do that, but yeah, that was always an option. - You've never had to bring that. - I've never had to. - Wow. - Yeah. 'Cause I heard you can get in trouble for that too. - Yeah. - Again. - Or you can get your way out of trouble. - All right, so. Peru, Bolivia. Do you go to La Farda on this trip? - We did, yeah. So one of the other things I wanted to do on this South America trip eight years ago was get on the trail of all these so-called escape Nazis that got different identities and basically were smuggled out. I'll tell you, AJ, there are places in Argentina and I've been to Germany many times. It's like you're walking into a barbarian village. - 100%. - That is. - Have you been to Barroloce? - I did go to Barroloce and that's the mother load of them all. - It's crisp like the Swiss Alps. - It really is. It's beautiful that way and there's ski resorts there and the beautiful lake there which had the house, the inelco house where Hitler supposedly escaped and I think he did. - You think it was the Barroloce house? - Yeah. - I've seen, I did an episode on that and the plans for that house are very strange 'cause it's a bit like a fortress. It's got this boat dock that leads into the building. It's pretty crazy. - An underground base there. So there was a TV show on the history channel called Hunting Hitler that ran for three seasons. So there's like 30 or 40 episodes. Two episodes were on the inelco house and I got as close as I could but it's like the ultimate gated community. I could only kind of overlook the bay but in the TV series, they took a zodiac and swam ashore. - Wow. - Yeah and they found the hanger for the sea plane. So if the authorities were ever moving in on Hitler, they could just run out to the sea plane, get up on the lake and then the boundary to Chile was just over the border. - I forgot about that there was even a place for a sea plane on that port there. So who's running that building now? - Well there is private security in there. I don't know who owns it or who's in there but in Hunting Hitler, they basically got chased out of there. - Yeah. So where do you land on it? Where do you think you went? - Yeah I think he definitely had a doppelganger get suicide in the bunker. And even in the show Hunting Hitler, they were able to get the skull fragment to do a DNA test on it. The Russians had that and it turned out it was a woman. - It was a woman and they won't let us see it again. - No, never again. But the data was there that it was not him. Nor did they ever find Martin Bourman. And at the end of World War II, Martin Bourman was the number two. He was the money man and many metric tons of gold escaped from Germany as well as priceless paintings and artifacts like the spear of destiny. And they all have a connection to Antarctica. That's the wild thing about all this. Bourman was a great character because operation eagle flight. He started building those communities a couple of years before the end of the war, almost like they knew it was gonna happen. We haven't found that gold yet, have we? - No, you sure haven't. Nor have we found over a hundred U-Boats submarines. - A hundred? - Also over a hundred. - Over a hundred. - That went missing after the war. You know, they were cranking out the U-Boats. More U-Boats were made in 1945 when the war ended in May than all the years combined. So they knew the war was over when the tide had turned in Russia. So from 1943 on, they had about two years to get their best material and personnel, not just to the Antarctica bases, and there are more than one, but also to the South America, basically micro-nations within a nation. This was explained to me by John Lear, and he and I had some conversations before he passed about these micro-nations, and I got close to several of them in South America. They're massive land holdings, owned by Germans, in Brazil, Argentina, and Chile, that are the size of some of our small states. And they're completely private, their own security, police force, and you brought those, you brought those. You brought a lot of businesses there. Was he ever found? Never found, and he was tried at the Nuremberg trials and found guilty and sentenced to death if they ever caught him. Of course, right. Oh, my thought, I heard you say once that you didn't believe that officially mangled a diet in like 79 drowning, do you not believe that story? No, I do believe it, it was in Brazil. So he escaped justice, as well as many other of the worst Nazis. It should have been in Nuremberg, they could have caught him, but they got identities and were allowed to escape to mainly South America. There were other countries that absorbed them, but one of the worst was Klaus Barbi, who's called the butcher. The butcher. The butcher. And I'm reading in the lonely planet, we're going through this town in Bolivia, reading about the town in the lonely planet, and said, oh yeah, and you could go to this lumber yard, and there's a hut back there where Klaus Barbi lived out the rest of his life under a different name, but a lot of these guys escaped justice. I think that the country that absorbed the most Nazis is the United States of America. Oh, they did, with Project Paperclip. Paperclip is the scientist, but what about the tens of thousands of others that came across just as security, intelligence assets, thousands of them? And as well as the MK Ultra scientists that came out of Germany. Oh yeah. I know it's MK for mind control, spelled in German with a K. Yeah, yeah, that's true. I mean, the bio warfare program came from Eric Trab, all that stuff comes from the Nazis. Yeah, whenever I'm doing a story about von Brown or any of those guys, I always get it in there. Remember who they really were, you know, they sure they did great things for the country, but these were not good men. They weren't, and this is the fourth Reich that basically took shape right after the war, which you could say was in these micronations of South America and Antarctica. And in his very seminal work, Joseph Farrell points out that, and he has some evidence that those paperclip Nazis were given diplomatic community. So they were allowed to travel to South America or even just over the border in Mexico sometimes with a briefcase that would never get checked. That's a dip pouch that's, they can't be checked. We'll get to Antarctica later. And I want to talk about Hans Kamler as well. Oh yeah. He's a great story, but take me on the trail to Hitler because I had Peter Leventon here, who also went down to South America. He saw these micronations just like you say. And he kind of blew my mind because he traced Hitler to Indonesia eventually. Where do you, where do you play some with? Yeah, I've never heard the Indonesia connection. I play him mainly in Argentina at the Enalco House. He would come and go, but he was in La Falda at the Eden Hotel. And I took a tour of the Eden Hotel. And fortunately, my tour guide had a pretty good English skills to have a conversation with him. And I said to him at the end of the show, I go, do you really think that Hitler survived the war? He goes, I don't need to think. I know it. I said, how do you know it? He says, right here in La Falda, there's an elderly woman who was a chambermaid in the Eden Hotel. And she's even done lie detector tests and passed them all, saying that she saw Hitler, his wife Eva Brown, even their dog Blondie, the German Shepherd. They all came there and they were very heavily secured. And when we did the tour, we saw that his suite where he would stay when he was there. But they basically had to keep him on the move. Yes. You know, at the end of World War II, the fighting forces of Germany, the Vermont, all surrendered. Well, who did not surrender was the political party of the Third Reich or the SS. And the SS were the personal bodyguards of Hitler. And they were still intact and run in the show and keep in him safe. He died. some time in the early 1960s and it's said that he's buried in a hotel in Paraguay. Capital there. That's interesting. I also heard that that he and Eva had at least one child. Daughter. Daughter. Maybe three. Maybe three. I heard the same thing. You know who they are. 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Kurt Waldheim. So I'm the first EU president. Got a picture of my book of all the other people who had very high ranking positions. What was the powerhouse of the EU? Oh it's Germany. That basically runs the show. That basically calls the shots. So why wouldn't they plant some of their politicians into these top positions? Have you been able to trace those daughters from South America coming over? Well no because they were all born in their countries supposedly. That's a good question AJ. I should do some legwork and try to find out exactly where they're born and where they're from but the belief is that they were these daughters of Hitler whether they were born in Argentina or were given families like in boys from Brazil. Remember they always tried to set up the scenario of how Hitler went through his childhood and give these other cloned boys the same kind of situation. That's right. Wow I love that store. I'm kind of shocked by it. But I could say something that you weren't aware of. No you're going to do a lot of that today. All right it's Christmas in Ushuaia. Every cruise is booked till February. Yep. A travel agent points you at a harbor a couple miles from the pier and the skipper tells you walk over two boats. So I want to hear about the captain of the second boat. Like who was that and what did they make of a six-foot seven-American ask about aliens? Well I didn't ask about the aliens just yet. We got down there. It didn't want to get kicked off right away. It was actually the first boat that a travel agent tipped us off on that had only room for one and there were two of us so I couldn't really accept that passage even though she was gracious enough to say no you need to go why don't you take it I said no let's keep looking and it turned out there was another boat to down that we went to and met the captain who was the co-captain on a boat called chief one and they had never sailed to Antarctica yet. They were they brought the boat over from Gdansk, Poland and they were just doing tourist runs to the Falkland Islands. There's an Antarctica connection there too but also to Cape Horn and it's a pyramid shaped mountain at the very southern tip of South America it's actually an island so they were just doing those trips and they said well when we come back then we're gonna do Antarctica and how do you want to pay for this? Said you can do a direct deposit for 8,000 US or you can pay us in cash for 6,000 equivalent US and in Argentina they're going through hyperinflation so every single day we had to go to all of our ATM accounts and they'd only let you take out about a hundred and fifty dollars so it took us about three weeks just to get enough cash to make it on that trip. I promise we'll get to Antarctica later but you brought the Falkland Islands. Do you think that war was for something else? Absolutely. So what was going on there? And in the final chapter in my book Secrets of Antarctica I talk about the Black Goo and I've spoken at the bases conference in the UK and I'm going back there next month with Miles Johnson who's done a lot of interviews with Harold Cotsvella and David Griffin and they have all three of them have spoken to men who were part of the Falkland Wars and in that war which didn't make any sense to me. I'm in high school and there's a kid that was super into it and he's like day two, day five, day 12. They're getting closer and then the war and why are they spending all this material and expense to take these islands which have a thousand sheep for every person that live there. There was what like 20 Marines on there or something like that. Yeah and the Argentinians were defending it. They call them Isle Maldivas and you get in a bar room fight if you call them the Falkland Wars down in Patagonia. I bet it's still a sore spot and so they were defending these islands. They say it's ours and they still want to make claim to them but the Brits come down in this huge force right and basically annihilate the Argentinians. They didn't stand a chance and they even sunk a ship with all these young and signs on there and there's a memorial to them kind of like our Vietnam memorial in U Shuaia with all their names on it and it's like wow why were they doing that? Well they were going to this island south of the sandwich south sandwich islands called Thuel Island. There's that name Thuel again the mythical land of the north and we have the Thuel base in Greenland right now. Well there's a south Thuel Island that the actual Falkland Wars ended offshore so they get there with their ships are ready to just pound them and there's eight scientists who put up the white flag and they surrender without a shot fired. This was a sub mission within the Falklands called Operation Keyhole and they were there to get something something very valuable and the scientists were working on it and it was this black goo substance. When it's in a frozen environment it's inert and it doesn't do anything it's just like a hard tar but when it warms up it has a form of sentience. Sentience? Yes is what it said and this is why the Brits wanted it and it has a way of conjoining with any living organism it can also be used for rapidly cloning and so there was this multiple series article in Nexus magazine and just so happen to have that on my trip and I'm reading it and it's all about why the Brits went down there to get this black goo and what it was for and why it was brought here by actually a benevolent ET race right after the Toba eruption about 71,000 years ago the island of Sumatra exploded, the biggest volcano of all time. Krakatoa is not far away and I saw that when I was in Indonesia both these places and it would have put up a cloud of dust that would have created a nuclear winter scenario where just for decades nothing would grow crops and so forth and so the human population was down to about 30 or 40,000 humans on the entire planet. I've heard that I've heard even even fewer that you could put them all into one stadium and that's why we have so many genetic markers to this so-called Eve early ancestor that we do have relations in that way but because we are vulnerable for another ET race taking over they brought in the black goo in the event they needed to rapidly clone humans because Earth's surface is meant to be run by us humans. Well, black goo is an episode that is all I'm so wow. And so these guys who are on the bases UK, they said that they met some of the soldiers who basically first they take the base over yep they confiscate all the equipment and then they actually destroy the base it was called the Corvette Uruguay base on south tool island that they were studying the black goo. Then they came back in a second convoy sure wasn't it their base it was Argentinian base. But then the Argentinians went back and they were kind of starting to set it up again the bridge showed up a second time and then absolutely annihilated it. I've got pictures in my book with penguins running around and so then they go back and these eyewitnesses said they went to acquire this black goo and they got him in these special vats and they're taking it back up to the UK because they wanted to backward engineer it see what they could do with it and use it in their own secret space program because when ingested supposedly it gives the recipient superhuman abilities and power and and the ability to withstand pressurized and really intense environments better than a human could. So the backstory is that's why the Brits wanted it but it got away from them so they started to backward engineer it at Marconi laboratories and that's where you have dozens of the scientists dying under mysterious circumstances. Marconi yeah Marconi like the radio inventor. So they didn't get it to work well maybe they did get it to work because it's since escaped oh now you have all these very weird diseases that have come out in the 21st century namely more gallons and more gallons are these fibers that'll come out of the skin and that sometimes they have kind of a black goo appearance or this substance with these fibers and DARPA is now backward engineering it and they put it graphene oxide and pharaoh fluids because it can self combine and create a bigger species and that's exactly what they said the black goo was. Do you have a way to connect DARPA to that? Do you have a source on that? Well just that they were behind the graphene oxide and the pharaoh fluids which have very similar connections similarities to the black goo. Speaking of black goo you were on a podcast my family thinks I'm crazy and the show notes say that you revealed your family's peculiar trait that makes them stand out for most humans yeah you didn't say what it was I'll tell you what is it our negative blood type our H negative yeah the only of the Atlantean blood type that's right okay it's only 15% of humans have it it's in my family my grandmother had our H negative blood type and our H stands for Reese's Monkey so 30 85% of humans have a direct lineage to the apes like Darwin said but these other 15% they don't there is no connection to the great apes and that's the our H negative blood type so my grandmother had it she married a man who is our H positive my dad is our H negative he is the universal blood type he can give blood to any human on this planet but if he were to get anything but own negative blood it would kill him that's really weird yeah the other thing that's really weird about it is my second born my uncle Douglas died at five days old because he was infected by my grandmother's blood and it killed him it was what we're called a blue blood baby and he succumbed before they had a cure and now my aunt I am she was the same way they took her to the Mayo clinic and they did a complete blood transfer to make her an our H negative blood type but she always had health issues her entire life I covered this fairly recently about the bask and Atlantis where in part of the the lore is once they started breeding with people that didn't have our H negative blood bad stuff was happening so the kings of Atlantis decided no more that we stick with our H we stick with with our own that's right and the bask so much our H negative oh yeah that's the highest incidence of it but it expands all the way from Scandinavia yeah northern germany where my grandmother's family was from pot stem uh the British Isles the Celtic people and then all the way down through the Basque region which is a Pyrenees mountains all the way down into Morocco in the atlas mountains there are people with fair hair and multicolored eyes in that part of Africa I didn't know that and and Edgar case he said those are the direct survivor descendants of Atlantis did say that we were all our H negative and we can learn if he was right if they would let us get under this thanks but they won't let us never say never AJ everyone get a chance um take us through the 92 hours across the Drake passage oh boy um everyone's heard that you lost 25 pounds yeah so I don't want I don't want the paragraph I want the night who is the guy on the tether that almost went overboard what how was going on yeah that was intense I've been to all seven continents traveled basically my entire adult life this trip to kick my butt it was the hardest trip I ever took far none why because as I said this was their first trip to the Drake passage and once we made that turn we got into very rough seas and I'm not exaggerating when I said the waves were as tall as three story buildings so when we weren't throwing up down below we were asked to take turns up on deck just to have more eyeballs looking for icebergs and so I went up there I'm like looking at these waves I think oh we're so screwed and one of those waves a rogue wave I was below deck but uh one of the guys who is on watch good thing he had a vest with a wire connected because a rogue wave hit and it took off one of our deans we lost uh one of our spare boats we lost uh some equipment on the deck it even bent the captain's uh instrument panel it hit so hard and this guy went flying if it wasn't for that cable connecting him we would have lost someone and he got really banged up too he had a a big gashon his leg that was healing the whole trip too so it was hard travel it's hard to get to Antarctica I mean even if he didn't drown he would have had hypothermia he would have gone for sure yeah oh within minutes um I mean what do you do it on watch at three in the morning well we were asked to uh go up for four hours and you're just looking for icebergs and that was the very first thing we saw and they're huge they're calving off of the ice shelves not a nice wall their shelves are hollow underneath and it was very impressive to see an iceberg this big yeah um but we were more concerned with the smaller ones like the size of a Volkswagen that would do do the damage on a boat uh aka the Titanic if that was even taken out by an iceberg that's all on the show yeah I did that one last week and so it was four hours on then eight hours off and it could be in the middle of the night could be in the middle of the day if you weren't throwing up and you could do it you were asked to do it and when I could I did and um we saw all kind of wildlife out there including albatross flying across the drake passage and uh the penguins would just like dolphins just jump alongside the boat which we saw going out the darwin straits there's another Magellan straits is to the north and then there was another one that was discovered during darwin and the beagle it's called the beagle channel and uh that was smooth sailing and saying to my girlfriend at the time oh this is great it's a pleasure cruise to Antarctica till we turned onto the drake and everything changed was she getting sick too oh everybody did except for the co-captain and one or two other people so they were enough to keep going because we almost thought uh maybe we should turn back this is really bad yeah it's be hard to risk the turn though yeah and get sideswiped and then you risk the turn but then you're gonna deal with it gone the way back once we got to Antarctica we got into the brandsford straight and some other calm passages and nobody got seasick again after that and coming back we took our drama mean on time had we taken it 24 hours ahead of time maybe we could have avoided that yeah it was rough so here's a case file almost nobody opens august 15th 1971 sunday night the president goes on 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What did you bring and tell me about that shower? They don't really have much capacity to grow their own food. They do have a greenhouse, but it's kind of limited. They were very, very glad we brought them a whole bunch of fruits and vegetables. They invited us in 11 of our shipmates out of the 14. We're from Poland. The other three were Americans and they were so glad to see us. We dropped anchor, although we slept on the boat each night. We went ashore. They offered us a shower, which was great after throwing up for three days. And then they even have their own chef down there and they were preparing meals and invited us to dinner. And then one night they said, "Would you like to have some drinks and we'll play some music on guitars?" Sure. So they gave us all a glass and then they brought out the blue ice. And the blue ice, the light blue tint comes from the deepest part of a glacier. They put it in our glass and then they poured some mixer and whiskey in there and it started popping like popcorn. Really? Because there's little ice inside the ice there are little air bubbles and when it melted it would pop. So that was kind of cool. That is very cool. I don't think it's a blue glacier ice for my cocktails. So can we clear it up now that you go down there and there's not a giant ice wall that surrounds the world? There's no such thing. Sorry. It's okay. This is why I don't do a flat. I don't do flat hours. Don't waste your time. Well, those fans are very committed and the comment section just gets it's just too aggressive. Well, I get it all the time with my interviews too and let's just put it to rest by saying. I went down there. I saw it. I stepped foot on terra firma. I got pictures on my cell phone showing you Antarctica because in all the schematics of flatter it's just an ice wall all the way around which is misidentified as the ice shell. One of the big discoveries from this last past season is they sent a submersible about a hundred miles under the ice shelf and they found the breeding colonies of the ice fish which are the keystone species for the penguins and all the seals that live down there. They've never seen that before. Are the ice fish the ones that don't have red blood cells? That's right. Yeah. No hemoglobin. Yeah, any freeze in their blood and they live and thrive in sub freezing water temperatures. Wow. Yeah. Um, so I heard you say that everything down there is just black, white and blue. Yeah. What is it that you still think about? What really stuff? Kind of like that. You just don't see anything up here that you normally see trees, bushes, brown dirt. Even like that down there. It's just black rock, the black and white of the seals and whales and penguins. You see the blue of the sky and the blue of the ocean and the white of the clouds and the white of the glaciers and snow. So it's like a different world down there. It's the best way I could describe it. It felt like we were off planet. That's a good segue to this question. In sacred places, you put Graceland, which of course, Walden pond, Martin Luther King's birthplace, Chemiah and the medicine wheels. So what makes a place sacred? Is it the geology, the belief, the fame? It's really the places that people go to where they either worship something of a higher power or that they feel that there's this power of place with mountains like Mount Chasta. We don't worship or the Native American modok tribe, didn't worship the other mountains around there. Just Mount Chasta. Right. So why is it that mountain? Why is it Chimayo, which has all these crutches up on a small chapel in New Mexico, just like Lord's France? What is it about these locations that people feel they can spontaneously heal or feel a closer connection to source or God or whatever you want to call it? Kailash? Kailash for sure. Okay. Absolutely. All those people that just died in Nepal, all the foreigners were queuing up to get into China to trek around Kailash and a big tragedy. Any sacred places in the South Pole? Well, I would like to say there are paranormal hot spots there. Oh yeah. I've been able to locate where Brian S. said he saw UFO activity over the Beardmore, which is also where Spartan One places the octagon UFO that he went into. So if we were to name a sacred place, I would say that, but because Antarctica never had humans living there until this modern age where they could have science support them, you didn't have anybody identifying any locations because we didn't even know it existed, right? I saw something on an old personal page of yours, 2004, 21 countries, 12 states, 33 flights, and a rule, never backtrack. Is that still the rule? Or do you have a trip that broke it? Well, sometimes I have to backtrack just because going back to the UK for the basis next month or going back to Egypt, I'm doing a cruise with Sasha Stone next month and ticket still available. It's when I come. We're going to go to all the great sites down there on a really wonderful cruise. Should we link to that? Is that a plug for you? Sure. You can find it on braddleson.com, all my upcoming conferences and trips. So what was the purpose of that rule at the time? Well, just that there's so many places to go on the planet. Why backtrack? Why not just pick a new location and I've still got a hundred countries to go. You still have a hundred to go? Yeah. Because I know you were counting. What's your count down? I'm like in the low fifties now. Low fifties with a hundred to go. Yeah. What's next on the list? Well, a new country, I'm not sure. I don't have plans yet. I just mean one that you just you got to get to. I would like, I'm looking forward to going back to Egypt. That one will never get old. That's yeah. The anchor civilization of the Western world, you know, everything that Greeks and even the Romans built upon their temples and their architecture comes from Egypt. A lot of the mythology and even the gods were kind of parlayed over to these other cultures. And so the monuments and the structures down there are second to none and I get this question all the time. What's your favorite place and the monuments of Egypt and then really second is Angkor Wat and those temples there. Amazing. And Saksehwaman and Ramqusco and Sacred Valley, those megalithic sites still defy how they were built. And for what purpose, too? I'm working on an episode about the Seraphim and Egypt. Nice. So let me put you on the spot before we're going to break. Do you think the Egyptians built that stuff or did they find it? Yeah. A lot of times you have other sacred places for lack of better term that were built upon older sites including many of the Incansites. They said we didn't build it. We just built upon it and you can actually see how some of those older buildings in Peru have first the megalithic and then the Incan without mortar and then the Spanish on top of that with mortar and when earthquake hits it's the lesser ones that usually crumble. As far as the Seraphim and some of the Egyptian sites, they're just so old. It's hard to say who built it because of course the Pharaoh list goes back thousands of years but I think if I were to make my estimation I would say yeah indeed they are as old as time as far as civilizations go. I would agree with Edgar Casey who called them the Osirian Empire that that was the lasting legacy of Atlantis building in a way that they knew how to do it. Of course you've had Ben de Kirk and other people, Egyptologists on the show. showing that their holes drilled into the stone, where you can still see the drill-choring marks, and other cuts that show cement saws. So go figure. They had some kind of high technology to build those. - I agree. I love Christopher Dunn's work, who talks about-- - Yeah, I know, Christopher Dunn. - He's great. - The Pyramids and the Serapume, 'cause a lot of the same technology, Serapume has those giant hundred ton blocks that have polished mirrors that modern granted companies are like, we can't do that. - Down below. - Down below. - Down all these tunnel systems, and the quarry is-- - With hundreds of miles away. - No. - It's a wild place. - How do they get them in there? - I don't know. And the angles are perfectly square, and the lines are perfectly parallel. It's a wild place, I think. - And we're going there on my Egypt trip, and I haven't been there. I've been to Sikara above, 'cause I didn't get to the Serapume when I was there. They open and close it quite frequently. I don't know if it's open right now. I hope it is. It loves to get your take on it. All right, we'll take a quick break. Come back, talk about the bottom of the world. All right, Antarctica. A few days before we left, you went on coast to coast, talking about all the weird stuff under the ice. So you get down there with a list, the three craft under the ice, the Pyramid, paranormal stuff. I think you said six stations, six countries, and you've said the answer was always no. - Right. - So pick one of those conversations, just put us in the room. What does no sound like? - Sure. So basically, I wanted to see if I could find anything out about all these big questions that we've all been asking. What's really down there? And it was the same line of questioning. Even before we went down, I was invited to New Year's Eve party at the Ushwaya Yacht Club. And there were several captains and crew members who had been to Antarctica several times, and my line of questioning was the same every time. Do you know anything about these three mother ships, Nina, Pinta, or Santa Maria? No, I've never heard of them. Know anything about anti-deluvian civilization, like the Pyramid poking through the ice. And one guy said, oh, that's just a none attack, which is just an attractive foresighted mountain. Do you ever go there, you ever check it out? No, we just flew over it. And so I think the jury's still out on that one. - Yeah. - And whether they were paranormal or UFO sightings, and we did get a report from one of the bases that another Argentinian base had a UFO flyover just a few weeks prior. So that was as close as I got to my questions, but then I found out through some of these bases that there are no go zones, that there's no fly zones that you just can't go to place it. I thought that's awfully strange because according to the Antarctica Treaty, the whole continent is supposed to be open to science and even travel tourism. - Sure. - But lo and behold, there's places you cannot go. - I have arguments with people in my audience who's, 'cause I tell them you can't go there. And they say you can go anywhere, you can take a cruise, you can take a cruise to this one. It's as big as the United States or bigger. You can't go anywhere. So if you think you can go there and just explore where the hole is or the antenna, they're not gonna let you go. - You'll get arrested. - Yeah. - I mean, what is it like? It's an air weathering, it's an air. - It's a clean air sector. - Right, so for the ecological safety, you cannot explore 3,000 miles. - Even if you're cross-country skiing, you can't do it. - Can't do it. - No, not allowed. There was a story in Nexus Magazine, about 15 or 20 years ago, that two Australian, Olympian, cross-country skiers were making their way across the continent. And it's been done before. And for all reasons they should have made it. But they must have veered off a little bit because a Navy SEAL helicopter came and intercepted them. And they basically said, "Trips over, ladies, get in." - Really? - Not let them continue. So maybe they were veering off towards a hole in the ice. - Do you think that they were looking for it? - No, I think they just made a mistake in their navigation and just went into one of these forbidden zones. And I'll provide you a map, which shows the areas where tourism is allowed. And by far, the majority of those spaces not allowed. - Nope. What do you think that hole is? - I think it's a vent, a natural occurring feature, 'cause I've found other holes in the ice on Google Earth that are not whited out. It's just a natural function. - This is whited out. It's not even clone stamped. It's just whited out. - And it's not, they didn't even use Photoshop 'cause they just see a big white square over it. Nope, you're not seeing that. But there are other locations where you can see very anomalous things. So I kinda wonder some are more secret than others. But the hole in the ice is a natural formation from all the volcanism and the geothermal vents that are naturally occurring in Antarctica. So it would make sense that they would need a chimney or a way to exhaust that warm air. - Sure, I mean, skeptics will say you couldn't really survive there, but there's plenty of places. I mean, I think it's the most volcanic continent. - It is, yeah. - So there's gonna be warm spaces, warm water, all over the place. - Yeah, and so the Schumacher Ponds, which were discovered by the Germans in 1938, is what they call the Antarctic Oasis. And that is where they went to go set up and establish base 211. - Is that the Schwabbenland? - Yep, in New Schwabbenland. And so I have a map that the Allies took the German map and then put all these X's around the most likely locations for base 211. And that's where they were going to bomb on the day of the battle at high jump. - No, so base 211, that's the infamous Nazi base. - Yes. - I wanna get deep into high jump, before we do. There was something that I hadn't heard before. Station manager at Palmer showed you in Ireland that wasn't in a painting from the '80s. - It wasn't in a painting, so we're touring the Palmer base. - Yeah. - Suddenly they don't allow ships to come ashore. It's strictly for research. But because there were three Americans and I said, "We're taxpaying Americans. You gotta let us come ashore." And he said, "All right, come on." Including our Polish co-travelers, they were allowed in. But when we were going through the galley, he just said, "Take a picture of that painting of this glacier, which was out in the bay." He said, "Sure." And then I asked, "Why?" And he goes, "I'll show you later." And then when we went outside, he said, "Now take a picture of that island." You see, with the little ice cap on it, but you could clearly see it was an island. He said that painting was the same location, but in this area of the Palmer peninsula, they're experiencing a lot of melting ice. And he even said, "When I first started coming here 20 years ago that those mountains you see in the distance, you couldn't see." So the whole polar ice cap on Anvers Island is shrinking. But conversely, there are other areas of Antarctica, which are actually getting colder and increasing in ice. So mother nature and her infinite wisdom is able to balance that out. We're not having the catastrophic change in climate as was predicted by Al Gore, where Miami Beach would be under water by now. - Right, it has hardly even changed. - The polar bears, I'm still waiting for the polar bears to have a look at that. But so this island, they named it Pi Island because the ice bridge connecting it collapsed on March 14th. International Pi Day, named on the PI Pi. - That's funny. - Maybe we'll eat a slice of Pi on that day too, but Pi's good any day. Let's talk about maps a little bit more. The pureries map, I love that map. It's controversial. Skeptics will say that Antarctica's there because of Aristotle's symmetry thesis that if there's land in the north, you have to balance it out in the south. Make the argument against that. I have made the argument against that. - Against being a continent. - That they didn't just make it out. - Right, right, right. And that goes all the way back to Ptolemy, the cartographer from ancient Greece who put a continent down there. But they did figure it out as the Greeks that there must be a southern continent to weigh off the top heavy continents of the northern hemisphere. But they never saw it, they never discovered it. Then come 1513 Admiral Perry Reese of the Turkish Navy produces this map that shows the exact outline of Europe, Africa, South America, and then that land mass down where Antarctica is. It even says in the finer line notes of the Perry Reese map that it comes from copies of earlier source maps dating back to the Library of Alexandria and the ancient Greeks. So a lot of those maps have been lost, but somehow Perry Reese got wind of them and copied them on his map. And also what's really interesting is the Fitchner ice shelf region, which is now covered with ice, it's shown without ice on the Piri resmap and indeed there are islands down there, kind of like Pie Island, that were exposed. So there are still lands that are being discovered and they've done the scans above the Fitchner ice shelf and found that those islands really are down there. I think half good said it as well, yeah, half of the ancient sea kings. That's right. And half goodness, not a wacky kooky guy, I mean the forward of his last book was written by Einstein. So he was a college professor. He was. I think he was ridiculed for saying that the continents drifted until, until we learned that they did. So there's in the, in the agreement, article seven says any country can go to any base at any time and look around. And countries do that all the time. What's your pick? Where would you go? Well I would go to the bases in New Schwabbenland and there are two in the Schumacher Ponds area. There are. Yeah. A Russian base and an Indian base. And they're on some of those lakes that never freeze and what they call the Antarctica Wases. Is this Queen modland? It is Queen modland. Yeah. And sometimes you'll find an older map of the World War Two era where we'll call it New Schwabbenland as well. So let's, so paint the picture. It's the late 30s, Nazis go down there. Take us through the trip, the darts, the photos, all that stuff because I'm sorry skeptics. This happened. It definitely happened. You know, we can argue about, we can argue about birds. There's diary and all that all day long. But the Nazis were there. Oh, absolutely. Undoubtedly. And there's photos. There are many documents. The darts you mentioned were these big. They would drop a, a dart for lack of a better term kind of the size of a small bomb. No explosive in it, but it would pop out a Nazi flag. And when I was at that Ushwaya Yacht Club party, one of the captains says, oh, I'm looking for those darts. If you find one, you could sell it on eBay for a million dollars. Oh, I bet. Yeah. They're very prized possessions if you can find one. Yes. And there are those maps of New Shwabinland that the Nazis created. But just before that, in 1938, the mountaineer and archaeologist named Ernst Schaeffer came back from Tibet. And he was carrying some documents that went into the Aninerbe society. And that is when-- The Aninerbe's, just for which was the occultic branch of the Third Reich. Right. So we had the Aninerbe's, the Vril, the Tuleys. Yeah. They were all predecessors and then they all kind of combined. Correct. Okay. Where they had tens of thousands of volumes of books, which were seen being evacuated out at the end of the war. So the Aninerbe was all into this stuff. And they were really sending expeditions around the world, just like in Raiders Lost Ark Memorial. Indiana Jones is fighting against the Nazis to find treasure. They were doing an excavation in Egypt. They were doing excavations in South of France. But mainly they were doing excavations in Tibet. Looking for? Looking for whatever they could get to give the Germans a larger qualitative advantage in the war. They wouldn't-- weren't they looking at one point for a gartha in Tibet? They sure were. And it's interesting that when Ernst Schaefer returns in early 1938, the high command basically gives a blank check to Admiral Richard and Schumacher to go down to explore this area of Queen Wadland, which they named after their ship, the Schwabbenland, which is an area in Germany as well. And that all happened in 1938. So what do you think they were really looking for? Well, I think they got tipped off on a location where they could build base to 11, either a defunct base, some save and reptilian, that was just not being used in that area, or the directions into the underworld under the ice. Now we don't even have to say inner earth is inside the earth, it could really just be under the ice. Sure, I mean, I think it's that ice couple of miles thick, a polar plateau. So we don't have to-- so this isn't like the King Kong Monster movie. No, it just can mean right under there. Right under there. And with all the volcanism and geothermal activity, you would have a lot of tunnels. It's known that rivers flow through Antarctica, and there are lakes that never freeze like Lake Vostok that are geothermally heated with animals and forms of algae that have never been discovered before. Yeah. It really is truly the final frontier on planet earth. Didn't I hear that one of the reasons that Nazis had such advanced technology was because they had help? Did you hear that? Oh, yeah. Well, that's the reasoning from back in the 1920s with the real women who were telepathically transmitting plans for anti-gravity craft that Victor Schaumberger took a look at and says, "Oh, this is actionable intelligence. We can bring this into the laboratory and rebuild it." And the Germans had their own Roswell crash of their own in the Black Forest region in 1933. And Mussolini got a nearly intact craft in the Lombardi region, which he eventually turned over to the Third Reich scientists. So they've been backward engineering this stuff ever since the end of World War One. They had an incredible head start technologically speaking. And then when you consider maybe they've also discovered of a monocraft and Tibet or any other high technology, they were definitely on the prowl for anything that could give them that qualitative advantage because they knew they were outnumbered militarily. So everything they built had to be the best, had to be more advanced than their adversaries had. Doesn't know the monocraft look a lot like the Nazi bell. Oh, sure does. And there's that whole question about what happened to Ahn's comler at the end of the war, too, who was. So, let's talk about him. So, comler was, I guess, the mad scientist who ran all Hitler's secret science programs? That's right. Okay. And he was this officer that had pretty much carte blanche access to all these black programs that the Germans were working on in the 1920s and 30s, including this very mysterious object called diglock, which means the bell, because it has that shape of a giant bell. And they've even found the site in Poland where they were working on diglock and actually the surrounding cement pillars are still there. That had to keep it chained in because when it was operating, it was moving around. Still there. I got a picture of it in the book, too. And comler's interesting because the war ends and he's found in British custody, then he's in American custody, and then he disappears into history. As well as 9 out of 10 of the real women, only one of them decided not to either board a plane or maybe even get into the bell, which disappeared. But then what's interesting. Who do you think has the bell? Do you think the Soviets grabbed it? I think they got away in it. You think they got away in it? Yeah. And it was also acting as a time machine because once you meet these specks of getting up to 9/10 to speed a light, you not only can, if you know where to go, travel throughout the universe, but also you can go along the timeline. And it happens to be in a 40-year increment because this is the same thing that happened with the Philadelphia experiment, that the brothers jumped off the ship in 1943 and then instantly popped up right off a Montauk 40 years to the second later. That's right. A lot of the water expecting to see the USS Eldridge, instead there are boats there to come and collect them from Camp Hero at Montauk. Same thing happened with the bell, that there was the Mecklenburg, Pennsylvania, UFO siding, which everybody said, look just like the bell and they saw the glyphs that were on the side of it. And maybe that's where Kamler and the real women escaped to. That, I mean, and that's true. That's a real siding. It was Kexberg. Kexberg. And the official story was it was a satellite that fell, but for some reason, as soon as it hit, it was just surrounded by military cord off and that, and no, we got near it. Yeah. But yeah, people said they saw glyphs on the side of the thing. They described it as kind of like an acorn, but that's really what the Glock looked like. Good. Wow. I hadn't considered that they escaped in it. Because he did go missing, they never could catch him in the 1940s. No. They were real women. I kind of thought he got absorbed into the American kind of secret science program, but I don't know. Well, if they got him 40 years later, they certainly would have wanted to keep him as one of the scientists. Is there any stories about the bell leaving Kexberg and going? I think 40 years ahead. - That's where the trail goes dark. I never heard whatever happened to it, but if they would have acquired it, what a relic that would have been to incorporate into our own backward engineering technology. - 'Cause if you think about it, that would have been last year, right? - In four year increments? - Well, so it would have been 45 to 85. - 85 to 15. - 20, 20, 20, 25. - Well, that would have been 50 years, wouldn't it? - No, no. - Oh yeah, 85 to 25, yeah. - Yeah. - Okay. - Well then, maybe we're still gonna pop up. - We gotta look for a sighting from 2025. - We know I have some friends, including James Rink, unfortunately he passed last year, but they went out to Montauk at the 80 year anniversary in 2023 to see if the Eldridge might show up. - That's funny. - I don't think they got any sightings, but hey, power to them for giving it a try. I don't know if it's closed now, but in 2006, I went there and walked the whole property. It was fascinating. - Isn't it weird? - It's so weird because there's, it's like a ghost town. - Yeah. - You can, at least back then, you can still go in the buildings, but there were giant power cables running everywhere going underground, but there was nothing on. - Yeah. - And there was this constant hum of energy, and you just got the sense that there's something going on here. - Oh yeah. - Yeah, and all the trees are twisted. - It's true, it's a weird place. - This is really dense around there, and only one kid ever escaped one of the. - When the Montauk boys, yeah. And he gets to town, he's like frantically knocking on doors, and they call the police, and the police call the base, and the base comes and get him, and the kids never seen again. - Yep, that's a whole other show. - It is. I've done a lot of press to Nichols in that whole story. - Oh yeah. - So operation high jump. We can go as much detail as you want. This audience knows the story very well. It's end of '47, and the United States has to go down there for a scientific mission and training, and they now end of '46, end of '46, end of '47. - Yeah, that's right. - And it turns out it's the largest task force ever assembled. - Ever. - 4700 men, 33 airplanes, 13 ships, a submarine, aircraft carrier. - And an aircraft carrier. And Admiral Bird is tasked by James Forrestill himself. - MJ1. - Who is MJ1? And Forrestill always wanted to come clean with this. And after he came back, I've got a picture of Bird giving him a stuffed penguin that in the weeks and months after Bird came back was known to be stalking the halls of the Pentagon, saying, "The Nazis are still down there. We can't get rid of them. They got technology we can't compete with." - Well, you got to lock him up. If he's gonna go crazy. - Better put him in Bethesda. - Put him in Bethesda, and oops, that falls out of window. - He keeps talking to the doctors and nurses and told to shut up, he wouldn't, and they suicide him. It said that James Forrestill is a first casualty in the UFO cover-up. - Yeah, I believe that. - You know, I'm so so on MJ12 on the story, but Forrestill, for sure, was killed. - Yeah. - Very sadly so, because he wanted to reveal the truth about this. - And I think he was talking to Kennedy about this very thing. - Yep, yep, and Kennedy, we know what happened to him. And even Admiral Bird himself died under very mysterious circumstance. He was in great shape. - That's right. - And we'll go back to high jump, but he goes down a fifth time for Operation Deep Freeze, which Captain Mark Richards, who is Carrie Cassidy's whistleblower, says that, and I got his military document book called Operation High Jump, but in Deep Freeze, they landed a German craft on the aircraft carrier. That was basically in response to the flyover of DC in '52, which were the craft that Bird said could fly pull to pull at incredible speeds. - So the '52 flap, or were those craft that he was talking about? That's the famous Chilean interview he gave. - That's right. Yeah, and El Mercurio newspaper coming back. But before high jump, Bird gave a press conference when he said, "My mission is military in nature." He would not elaborate more on that, but that doesn't sound like a training or a routine exercising cold weather if it's military in nature. It was, by all intents and purposes, an attack, invasion force, little Antarctica. - We didn't have access to any other cold weather places. - Oh, we did, of course we did. We had the L-thon highway that just got completed to Alaska. We had Greenland, we had Canada, and Alaska. - But no, we got to go down there. - We got to go down there. - So they were going down there to fight Nazis, to root them out. What were they doing? - So the cover story was training in cold weather climate, but as we just said, there's no reason to do that. What they were doing was to dislodge the Germans from base to 11, and also to acquire at least two craft. To Flugorod is flying wing craft that the British knew about in the 1940s. 'Cause remember, the British had cracked the enigma code breaker. So they were listening to and spying on all the submarine chatter back and forth with Berlin. In fact, I went to two of the Operation Tamerin spy stations of the British. When I was in Antarctica, one of them is Port La Croix, it's a museum, and you can still see the radio room where they were all listening. So they tipped off the American's look. We know the Germans are still down there. Huge amounts of material and personnel, and probably their honey boo craft, we're all being sent down there in those final months of World War II. And even the Führer's convoy, which was the last battle of World War II. See, we don't hear about this because history is always written by the winners. - Right. - Because the Germans routed the allied ships in the North Sea as they were just plowing their way to go down to the southern continents, not only in Antarctica, but also these micro nations in South America. - Sure, and we know for sure they went down there. - For sure. - And of course, there were even some submarines, which surrendered in Mar del Plata Argentina in the summer of 1945, months after the war ended. - That's right. - And they were part of the Führer's convoy. They finally got it out of them. But the cargo holds were empty. - And I think one of those had a medical facility inside of it that would have been for a very important sick patient. - That's right. And they also had a lot of injured soldiers that may have been refused entry into this inner, earth, empire that the Germans discovered. Not only discovered, but had it on their U-boat captain maps, which were being produced at one of the concentration camps and everybody that worked on those maps was executed afterwards. - Really? - Oh yeah. - And you had these maps in your book, don't you? - I do indeed, share them with you. And this, to me, is a smoking gun that not only did the Germans get deep within the Antarctic continent, 'cause if you look at what Antarctica looks like without the ice, there are very deep and long Führers that extend well deep into the continent. And they were able to map out what this whole world looked like underneath the ice. And on those under ice maps, New Schwabbenland is one of the locations. New Berlin is another one of the bases as well as a full chrome for the U-boats. So damaged U-boats could go get repaired under the ice at one of the locations. - Wow, so more than just based to 11? - Correct. So, very acceptable to that this could have happened. But what about the parts of the story like the Ariane and the search for those kind of secrets? What do you make of that? - Well, isn't it interesting how similar the word Ariane is to Aryan? - It is. - And we spoke earlier about the Nazis fascination with anything ancient looking for their ancient ancestors. And that's actually what Anna Nerbe means. Is this, they wanted to find this inner earth civilization either the Hyperboreans or Thule of the Northern Climes but also in the South. And so when Ernst Schaeffer comes back with information about how to get to Agartha, maybe he made a connection with this inner civilization in Tibet, they wasted no time going there as well as under the ice. So Bird gets tipped off that they're down there. They got the Flugar odds. And whether we wanna discuss or believe his diary as authentic or not, he says he flew into that hole in the ice and was met with two Flugar odds, wingtip to wingtip, which took control of his plane and landed him vertically, which his plane could not have done. Nope, but they took control of it through some kind of force field and then he was meant to go meet the master who was the leader of the domain of the Arianine. He described the city a Buc Roger city. Yep. Do you remember how he described the master and how he's been? people looked because I have a follow-up how do you describe them well human like but not quite human and in his diary he's he asked the master why did you want to meet me he says well you're very well known on the surface world and bird just thinks to himself surface world where am I but the master is telepathic and he laughed and he says yes you are here in the domain of the arionny yeah well so I would say probably another ET civilization that looks a lot like us but are a lot more advanced than us and the master even said so much yes and described as tall blonde with with strong attractive features which again I have problems with the diary but then David Grush shows up talking about Nordics now right kind of blows my mind even on fox news never thought I would hear the word Nordics from inside the intelligence community something is going on as one of the big five yes you got the insectoids yep tillians the grays tall Nordics yep and what was the fifth I don't know something like that maybe the tall whites yeah but human like but human like so that's that's very revealing yeah now the whole exopolitical question goes into ET's that look very much like us like walk down a city street here in Vegas and you'd think it's just another person yep the um the whole that bird flew into is that the same hole that we're talking about yeah yeah he doesn't describe it so much as the hole but I could show you on his 1929 flight that he definitely saw it and Brian S says yes that's the exact location where this hole is and by seeing it he would have known the way back so flying into it then he sees a green lush valley and he said this shouldn't be here and it was only him and his radio man named howey that were allowed to go on that flight and then they see something like what is that elephant upon closer look it's a woolly mammoth so even species that are long extinct but apparently are still alive down there now one thing in the diary that's really off-putting is that they always refer to it as the north pole they do however the dates exactly match when bird was in an article for high jump but here's a thing AJ why would you do a flight to the north pole in the middle of their winter up there in the northern hemisphere it's pitch black for 24 hours right so there's a lot of evidence that the the sun and even birds nephew who acquired the diary after bird died because he was given a gag order never to talk about this ever again they just changed the location so they could get it out there and maybe at no fault of their own but you know Admiral bird had a son whose name Richard bird as well yes he came with him he was a young naval officer he was there on high jump his son was going to give a talk in 1988 in Washington DC got on a train in Boston and then was never seen again his body was found a month later in a Baltimore warehouse wearing a different set of clothes and one shoe was missing and he had obviously been roughed up he was probably trying to tell the story of bird as well I never got that opportunity that death happened that's true I hadn't considered that maybe the diary got the poles mixed up but it wouldn't make sense because I think bird was much more comfortable with the south pole I don't think he even really made it to the north no they think in the time that he was allotted to do that flight in 1926 that he turned around short of this north pole and that was about his only expedition up there yeah whenever he would do a mission he would come back and there'd be a ticker tape parade after high jump he gets debriefed and goes quiet yeah so part of the legend is the the task force was turned around early that's right were they absolutely that's a known fact it was meant to be six to eight months with an unlimited budget to do their operational mission yet eight weeks into operation high jump bird gives the order let's turn around and leave and on their way back they're refueling and restocking and chile he gives this infamous interview with in the El Mercurio newspaper it was actually going to go out on the wire it was an American journalist that interviewed him Van Aata but it never made it over the English language wire but El Mercurio still ran it and that's when he said he didn't want to frighten anybody but in the event of our next war we would be facing an enemy that could fly pole to pole at incredible speeds and I've recounted that article and have the Spanish version as well so people can read it for themselves and see what they want to see yeah I love that I love that this is the first time I ever saw the actual article was you have it in your book yeah do so what is down there what did he see that made him and all his crew on high jump were basically debriefed put into quarantine and all had to sign non disclosure agreements the last survivor of operation high jump Robert Johnson he just passed away a few years ago but before he died he gave interviews and told some very fantastic things including birds flight second flight coming back to Little America white as a ghost something definitely affected him on that flight was that the flight where he was at a radar contact for three hours that's right they thought he was lost which is interesting because with him and howie in that single prop play and they shouldn't have had enough fuel that's the other thing yeah it was certainly not for those extra three hours no so they either would have had to put down and right twiddled their thumbs for three hours or they went somewhere or they went somewhere yeah oh it's a good story it really is I have my problems with it but but I think there's there's something there's something to it what do you think is down in that hole that we can't say what's going on with the with the air tests area yeah when I spoke to Brian S. Lindemulton house whistleblower um he still wants to be anonymous he said that there was a road that corkscrewed down I asked him about that weather monitoring station the clean air sector he said it's just a cover story that when they flew over that no fly zone they saw no buildings no machines no weather forecasting nothing it's just a cover story that there was nothing there and this is coming from someone who had done several years of service flying in planes he was the one that went and collected the missing scientists that when missing for a week how do you survive on the polar plateau for a week in these harsh conditions outside of your camp and they too came back white as a ghost that's right they wouldn't talk about it they wouldn't talk about it they were pushed shoved onto another plane and got that out of there to New Zealand all under quarantine all their equipment too was under quarantine it's also very it's also true and in uh mechmerdo the largest base down there it's the biggest secret that everybody knows that the NSA has an unmarked building there that they operate out of mechmerdo and they were the ones that read Brian S in the crew the ride act when they came back what were you doing flying over there you didn't see what you just saw and they're working out of an article well the NSA no such agency they didn't even admit they existed until the 1980s they were set up in 47 to handle anything extrastrial and they're the Johnny on the spot if there's a UFO crash there's living or dead ET's they know how to handle it so what are they doing down in Antarctica I don't know you know do you talk you hear about the CIA CIA CIA NSA has a much bigger budget oh yeah much bigger budget than any other intelligence community and they're super quiet about it yes they are um isn't the octagon reachable from mechmerdo well it is but I don't think you'd ever get permission to go no I mean part of a Spartan one I think so little molten how with the Spartan one interview right I think the story was he would found it on a map by accident almost like it it was a no-go area but he went out to am I getting that right yeah and they they would have had to take a cat track from mechmerdo and I have a map his map that he rendered for Linda in his interviews and Spartan one and two and as I was telling you in the pre-interview they won't talk to Linda anymore and they lost their pension and security clearances so Spartan one and two they paid the price for blowing the whistle um I'll direct you guys to to the episode on Spartan one and two but if you in mind just telling the story so So I'm friends with Linda Moulton Howe. We've collaborated on Antarctica, of course, her whistleblower testimony and me going down there. So I just met with her two weeks ago when I was doing a conference in Albuquerque. She met me and we talked for several hours, had lunch. And she told me that she's very sad that Spartan 1 and 2 cannot talk to her anymore, will not talk to her. And that unfortunately they lost their pension and a lot of their security clearances too. And to me that just says, okay, they probably were telling you the truth. Why would they lose all of these pensions and privileges if for a made up story? Right. Something happened to them. So do you remember this story? Oh sure do. Talent. So they were tipped off or had seen it on a flyover. They went out to this giant craft that's partly submerged under the Beardmore Glacier. And Spartan 1 was the first to enter, said there was what looked like a door and it's black basalt. And this is an octagon. And a giant octagon. Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. Just touches the door and it opens. Kind of like a Ed Lee Scalien's coral rassle where you just touch the door and it opens a megalithic door. He goes in there and it's illuminated by some kind of greenish light that he can identify where the light source is coming from. But on the wall are all these hieroglyphs, kind of like Egyptian hieroglyphic but different. And the most interesting one of them all is not only a star map, kind of like in Benny and Barney Hill when they went aboard a craft during their abduction. They described a star map with all these dots accurately, accurately. And also the black sun motif. The black sun was the most occultic esoteric symbols of the SS and the Third Reich. And it is still on the floor of Weweizelberg Castle in Germany that Himmler was setting up as a ritual area where they would do the actual seances and occultic episodes in the Weweizelberg Castle with this black sun motif. And so here's Spartan one going into this big UFO and there it is right up on the wall. Now is this freezing in there? No, he said it was pretty normal temperature. Said it was comfortable. Yeah. And it was much much larger on the inside and we've heard this with a lot of other people that have been aboard UFO crafts where on the outside it looks like a pretty modest craft but on the inside it's ginormous. Same thing with this black basalt UFO and not only was it much larger on the inside but it went down many levels, down very deep. So I'd say this is one of the Nina Pintas Santa Maria three crafts that are known. You think it's one of those three? Yeah. And that story comes from Brian, right? Well, that comes from Spartan one and two, the black basalt. Black basalt. Brian was. How do you. How do you connect that. History to Brian's? Well, Brian didn't talk about that but he flew over the beard more several times and saw UFOs on several occasions, flying discs as he described them as they were doing just routine flights to the South Pole Station from McMurdo, buried in the ice. And no, the UFOs were just flying above. Wow. Yeah. And moving in a very erratic way that no normal airplane that he was accustomed to, they could hover, they could move very fast, they could do L-shaped turns at high speed that he'd never seen before. No. Do you think the right continued and continues? Well, I do. And that's the fourth Reich and there are actual whistleblowers who have come out recently talking to Stuart's wordlo who's the last surviving Montalk boy and he's been saying in interviews that he has a friend that has lived their entire life in the New Berlin base under the ice. And he told Stuart that they really want to come out and tell the world that we're still here, that we're these multi-generational Germans who have lived our entire lives here. But he said, "I don't know how the rest of the world would react knowing that a fourth Reich has been in existence since the end of World War II." They would not react well. I don't think so. And they're worried that there'd be another operation high jump to eradicate them. Yeah, I've heard that the best way to start World War III is for one country to violate the Antarctica treaty. And you know who that might be as Iran, they even said they want to set up a base at the South Pole. That's true. Iran has made it a land claim. They have. And they even said the location they want to put their base is at South Pole. And this is that location of the giant hole in the ice. That's where they want to put it. Yeah. We have to follow. I wonder what's going to happen. There's I think there's 57 nations signed on to that. I don't know if Iran is one. There are not one of them. But I have the interview notes of the general who said we intend to put our base at the South Pole. And Hitler was also in one of his secret speeches to the commanders who were in charge of New Schwabbenland kept mentioning the South Pole, which is not in New Schwabbenland proper. Right. It's a different location, but he keeps referencing the South Pole going to the South Pole. What's at the South Pole? And there's that hole in the ice. So it's all these data points, AJ, that just keep pointing to something very massive, something major is being protected in that location. There's no question. I did one episode where I showed some Google Earth photos. It wasn't exactly Antarctica, but it was right on the island's near it. It's a giant cavern and you can see cat tracks and it's kind of dirty from trucks and stuff. And it's maybe a six year old image and it's crisp. You go one year ahead. It's blurry. You can't really see what's going on. You go two years ahead and it's just whited out. So that's what they're doing at the hole. Yeah. And I've seen that in other locations such as underneath Malibu, California, there's a big sea entrance and Google Earth. Just blurred that out. That's right. Yeah. So there are places that they don't want you to look at. For sure. Let's take a quick break. We'll keep going on the weird stuff. You bet. All right. We're back. Is there a connection to the spear of destiny to Antarctica? That's what I found out to be one of the most esoteric and interesting connections to this all. So what's the spear? So the spear of destiny or the spear of long genus was the spear that pierced Jesus on the cross and it was preserved and survived and it's right up there with the Holy Grail as the most sought after relic. Holy Grail has never been found but the spear of destiny passed on through the generations in Germany and it was part of the first Reich, the second Reich and then the third Reich when Adolf Hitler annexed Austria. In 1938, the first thing he did was he went to the Habsburg Museum in Vienna to acquire the spear destiny. And I have a picture in the book where he's just, they're all alone in front of it because he believed that with these artifacts that no army or nation could resist the expansion of the third Reich, which was supposed to be a thousand year Reich, but it only lasted 12 years. Who knows how long would have lasted if he found the Ark of the Covenant? Well, that too, but the Antarctica connection is that when the third Reich was starting to see that the war was lost, that they put a replica in a very obvious location, too obvious to be supportive of that being the actual relic itself, which was found by Patton's army himself and it was sent back to the U.S., where it's supposedly still located, but the real one went down to Antarctica and it is what has given the fourth Reich their power of providence in Antarctica. What power does this spear have? Well, it is one of those things that if you are in possession of it, that no army or no nation can defeat you and that's why the first and second and third Reich had it, but the tide had turned in Germany in World War II in 1943 when they started being on the defensive from the Russians and I guess it lost its power then, but it still hasn't now. Any other artifacts down there that are rumored to be? Well, they seem to have came out with a lot of wealth and resources and a lot of the craft that they were working on, these Flugorod, the flying wings, those craft also mysteriously vanished and when the Allies got to some of the locations like the Scota Works in former Czech Republic that they found that all the material will be there. was gone and only a few of the scientists were left with a bullet in their head, maybe they refused to go. - I think all the de-clockah scientists were gone. - Gone missing, no sign of 'em. - It just disappeared. - Yeah. - In 1990, maybe 1991, the United States said, "Hey, would you guys mind if we did a little digging?" They wanted, it was a quote unquote, mining operation, but they wanted to do some digging. The UN wouldn't allow it, but you can't help but wonder if what they wanted to dig for. - Yeah, and why would they decline such a request, less or something? There are places that are just no go, no dig, no even fly over zones of Antarctica, and that's always the biggest question for me is, what is to be hidden down there? - An Admiral Bird in his final interview on the Lung Jean's watch interview, remember the black and white? He said on several occasions that there is this land beyond the poles. Well, it's just the polar plateau up there for hundreds of miles and all directions. It's just a flat piece of ice. So what kind of land beyond the pole are you referring to, unless he's giving us a veiled answer to the hole in the ice and what might be down there? - It's so big and so volcanic that there's got to be holes. There's got to be places there. - And there has to be big large openings with the geothermal heat would be supportive of living down there, even t-shirt weather. - Sure, yeah. - Is that whole big enough to fly in? - Yeah, well, so according to Terzinski, who was working on some of these Russian documents that came out after the Cold War, he said it was miles across that it'd be plenty of room to even fly a 747 down into the hole, turn around and come back out. - Miles across. - Miles across. - Miles across. Yeah, that's how big it is. So you know after the Soviet Union collapsed in the early 1990s, you could go to Moscow with a suitcase full of hard currency 'cause the rubble was going into hyperinflation. And there were people from the KGB that would say, okay, what do you want? - That's right. - We want UFO crash videos. Yeah, we got those. Okay, I want an alien autopsy video. Yep, got those too. And also this Antarctica stuff came out to this journalist named Nikolai Subiton, who purchased them on the black market. And just in the last few years started doing videos where he'll show stacks of these U-boat maps. What would I like to get my hands on one of those? And saying that he got more than just the maps. He got notebooks from Colonel Wolf, which was one of the top officers in charge of Antarctica and other material. So it was really the golden age of disclosure in the former Soviet Union when all this material came out. Have you seen those notebooks? I've only seen the videos of him flipping through them and the excerpts of what was written, including these secret Hitler speeches to the officers where they were looking for recruits to go down to the new Schwab and Landbases. - Wow, yeah. So so much of your work has sources, citations, you double check, you triple check. Yeah, you get into some wild stuff, but for the most part, I consider you're a pretty good researcher. Alien autopsy is debunked. So when you get a story, what's the sniff test for you? - Well, I'm a researcher just like you, and I maybe cast a wider net, perhaps, 'cause I like to look at every story at every different angle. - I love that you do that. - So the sniff test for me is how many data points can I get that'll match this? So let's use the Roswell crash, for example. Neither you or I were even born then. So we can't go by our own personal eyewitness. We can just go by what others have said and that this disc crashed on Max Brazil's ranch just outside of Roswell, and they had collected some of the pieces, and there were reports of alien bodies, and then the army moved in and to collect it, and then they changed the story after the headlines ran. - Yes. - Captured on Roswell Ranch, and then it was crash test dummies, and it was just something else that went down there. - Data points forever on that one. - Data points forever on that, and the whole book by Corso called The Day After Roswell, and that's when the cover-up began. - Yeah. - So I thought I saw one of your books that you like to have three data points. Can are there three data points for birds diary? 'Cause that's one that I wanna believe. - Mm-mm. - Well, I think those data points go beyond the diary, and that is the suggestion that bird was down there, that he did another flight to the South Pole with those three hours of missing time. He knew where the hole was, based on his flight map from 1929. Why wouldn't he go back there? If you can fly a plane into it, a larger plane that could go deep down in to do this flight. And the other data points is Robert Johnson, the last survivor of high jump, who said not only did he see bird come back, he wouldn't fill out a flight log for the trip. He said at that time already that we can't talk about this, but he said to Robert Johnson directly, you know and you saw what I saw, and you'll remember this. - Birds didn't fill out a flight log? - No. - That would be a first. - And it would be a first, 'cause he was all about by the book. - Sure, he was taking notes in flight. - Absolutely. I'm writing it in this secret diary, which passed on to his son who died under these mysterious circumstances himself. - That's, there's no question that happens. What about that part of the story where it might have been a destroyer was attacked by a UFO during high jump? - Yeah, and that came out of the Russian archives as well. - It did. - And they did that documentary about 25, 30 years ago. - Yes. - Where they kinda think there was a little shot in Freud and they like to hand it to the Americans a little bit. - Sure. - Look, you got your ass handed to you in high jump, and here's how, and here's why. And they had, in the documentary, admirals of the Russian Navy being interviewed, and like Tersinsky, a researcher who had access to some of these files about what really happened in high jump, and they couldn't help, but yeah, just jar us a little bit. Hey, you guys got your ass kicked. - Sure. - You know, they went down there too. Of course, and they had first dibs on the German Kriegsmarine documents. So they had these maps that went top secret with the KGB and the NKVD, the secret police acquired this stuff. And there's this, another document that Subiton had gotten was this KGB rom file. So everything that they learned from these maps and documents that went into this KGB rom file, that went all the way up to Stalin himself and Stalin ordered his Submarines to retrace the steps. And they went down there also in 1946, '47. - They did. - A lot of people don't know this. - I did not. - And they were met with submersibles at a choke point at this location where they were meant to dive under to come up to a lake and then continue on to a gartha. The Russians never met it, but when they surfaced, they saw some of the high jump ships. And the Americans saw the Soviets and it was like a Mexican standup. What are you doing here? I don't know, what are you doing here? No shots were fired, but they were both down there in the first Antarctic summer to go down there to try to dislodge the Germans. - Wow, I didn't know that. - Yeah, that's in the KGB rom file. - So hydrogen then was not successful? - Not at all, it was a route. And again, history is written by the winners, and you don't want to admit you got beat by the Antarctic Germans. No, by the way, they don't like to be known as Nazis anymore. So I'll just tell you a quick side note, I did an Antarctica presentation under the ice of the German U-boat maps in Germany, just this last May. I didn't know how well it would be received, 'cause there are laws that you are not allowed to grandize a third riker, even have a swastika flag or anything. So here's me going down there, given this talk about their Flugelrod flying craft in these maps showing the Germans making an underground. Afterwards, it was very well received. People came up to me and say, "Leave it to an American to come to Germany "to tell us our true history." I'm like, "I'm just doing what I do." And they also said that there's a location in Southern Germany called the Unterberg. Near the Eagles' nest where Hitler had his second headquarters, that's the underworld, the undercity. of mountain, which it hasn't entry into the underground base in this Alps region of Birches Garden near Salisberg under the eagles nest. Well, near there, very near there. You can see the Unterberg from the eagles nest. Has anyone explored it or is that a theory? Oh, really? Oh, well, they know they're there because somebody came up to me and says, oh, yeah, I lived down there and we see what looked like the Hanibu craft coming in and out of the Unterberg all the time still still to this day. Wow. And they were absolutely fascinated with an entrance to the inner earth world through the Unterberg in the Salisberg region. And that's maybe why Hitler ordered his eagles nest to be built there, which is now a museum and you can go up there and see it. You can, I kind of creepy. It's very creepy. Yeah. Do you think that these tunnels are connected? It's a pretty good chance they are going to have a mock up of inner earth world in my book showing the agartha, the land of advanced civilizations as it's called on this map. But it shows many locations around the world, including mammoth cave in Kentucky and below the Patala palace and Tibet, these entrances into this inner world that certainly the Germans would have been on that tip and following up on every lead they could get to try to get down there and find it for themselves. Good. What do you think about the connection of agartha to Lachasta? That's another one on this map. And Mount Chasta. Lachasta is on that map? Yes. And as well as other very famous volcanic areas, because it's known that Mount Chasta has a hollow neck in the cavity of the volcano. Lava tubes everywhere. There's not only benevolent ETs, such as those dwellers of Talos, the city there. Yes. There are malevolent ETs like reptilians with a base there. And I don't know if you know this, but on the eastern side of Mount Chasta is all a fenced-off military installation. I did not know that. We're going to need to look into that. The native people there are not allowed to go above the tree line because that is the dwelling of the sky people. Right. And above a right at the tree line at the top of the highway to go to the old snowball ski area that got closed because of an avalanche, that's the panthermetos. And the panthermetos has a natural spring emanating from there. And Native American people are allowed to go up there and do ritual and powwow for several days during the summer. And nobody's allowed up there when they're doing that. What book has that map? The map of the inner world is right here. I'm wondering if Mount Hayes is on there, if Kailash is on there, the ones that come up in all of the store, he's there. Is this map? Oh, I know these are all the locations around. I know this map. And there you can see in Brazil and Venezuela, there is a tribe of Indians and I describe them in this book that also are the protectors of this entrance. There's the city of Shambala. Yeah. That's a singular location. But you can see that Agartha is the land of advanced civilizations. Do you connect any of these theories to the lost continent of Mou? Well, that would have been in the Pacific region. And my next book is called Underwater Archaeology. And I break it into lost civilizations and Lamuria is a chapter. Atlantis is a chapter. Even Haipaboria is a chapter all with underwater archaeology. The reason I ask is because I connected the Lamuria civilization to Telos. And I was wondering if you were going to work on that. I can't wait for that book. Haipaboria. I don't know that one. Well, that's the earliest civilization on Earth. Now we're talking about a million plus years. And this goes into Michael Kremos work for Bid and Archaeology. Fortunately, he just passed away last week. And he in his bestselling book talks about gear shafts that were found in a seam of coal in Siberia that are dated. You can carbon date coal because it's organic material, a million years. Wow. Of interconnecting gears. And actually I have a picture of it in modern esoteric as well as a whole bunch of other artifacts that can be traced to this very, very old civilization. What is his speculation on how advanced it was and what happened to it? Well, and that's why he got such a bad name in the archaeological community because he would talk about these out of place artifacts. I ignore all those people. Yeah, they're best to be ignored because this is where the good stuff is. This is when we get to the meat and potatoes. No one has to believe any of this. It's not in my business. I enjoy all of it. Yeah. And you should. And we all should. And we all need to consider all the viewpoints. When it's debunked, sure, let it go. But until then, how do you explain seams of coal from Siberia with gear shafts embedded into the coal? And this has been found in America too and other places around the world as well as the Baltic sea anomaly. And I got to meet Dennis Osberg who discovered the Baltic sea anomaly about 10 years ago. And it's like the millennium Thalcon. It is. It is. Crash to the bottom of, but it shows the skidmark. You see it for that. It looked like it's landed and skidded. And it even has the dirt piled up below it. Yes. So that could only happen when the Baltic sea was in dry land. And that's the the area of the North Sea, which was above ground. So this is anti-deluvian. Yes. Very much so. So I asked Dennis about not only discovering it. And last year they went down and they found that the Baltic sea anomaly craft is stone. Yes. And in stone, how could that be a craft, right? It would have to been this natural formation. But after so many years of pressure and minerals, a lot of people who have seen UFOs say that when you touch them, it's like you're touching an elephant skin, that it's sentient, that it's alive, and it actually works in conjunction with the pilot. And so the Baltic sea anomaly could have been one of these living craft. And after all this time, it became petrified, just like the petrified forests in Arizona and elsewhere, that it's so old that it could date back to hyperborea. When the Baltic sea would have been above ground. Yeah. They need to drill into that. Yeah. He's doing that this summer. Is he? I thought he was having trouble getting funding. Maybe so, but he told me at contact in the desert this year that they were going to the plan was to go out this summer. Well, that's great. Dennis, if you're listening, start a GoFundMe or something. We'll get some money your way. Yeah. I'd love to know. Sure. I get down there. Put you in touch with them too. If you wanted to next time he's in America or haven't come out, he's starting to speak at conferences now. And he agreed with me that it would have been very, very old and had been organic at one point and had petrified to its stone-like state, but it is today. So that's your next book. Is are these civilizations? Yeah. Underwater archaeology. So, namely, the megalithic and stone structures that have been found under the sea. Now, tell me, how do you build a megalithic structure underwater? It had to have been at a time when the sea levels were much lower. Is hyperbore? That's the oldest one. Do we know what happened to them? There are periodic times when the earth goes through a polar shift situation where the continents move around and triggers earthquakes and tidal waves and volcanoes around the world that would wipe out these civilizations, or at least disguise them or sink them to the bottom of the ocean. And that's also true at the Lemuria and Atlantis. How about high Brazil? High Brazil. Yeah, that mythical island in North Atlantic off the coast of Ireland. I don't know if it's so mythical. I would love to see some evidence for it. Comes and goes. They're finding some stuff all around the UK that there were settlements down there. Yeah. Maybe not high Brazil out that far, but certainly it shallow parts of the channel, now it's where. Or how about the pyramids off the Azores Islands that were discovered 10 years ago by a fisherman using sonar? That's right. Perfect foresighted pyramids underwater. So, you cover all that's Yanaguni, Bimmy Road. Oh yeah. Okay. Any theories? Yeah, there were high tech civilizations on this planet. High tech. High tech. Like the Baltic Sea anomaly. Like creating megalithic formations. Yanaguni. Bimmy roads, megalithic structures under the sea that have just been lost to time, but now I'll be back. being rediscovered. And there's our data points for these high-tech, megalithic building cultures of an anti-deluvian time frame. I want it to be true. I want to believe. I want to believe how come there's nothing in orbit from at these cultures? Is it too long ago or I think it's always been there. We're just seeing with new eyes and starting to discover them and saying, look, there is evidence for an Atlantis, not just from Plato's account, but that the outside the pillars are Hercules, which is Gibraltar and Morocco on the other side, that that's where the Azores are and that's where that's that's true. Sunken ruins and and by extension into the Caribbean sea, the the sunken city off of Cuba and even Antarctica. All roads lead to Antarctica. They do. That's not considered in Cuba. I think I think it's been dated 50,000 years old. Yeah. That's a wild one. Anyone working on that that you know of? Well, the trail ran dark once again after the people who found it released their studies and it's so deep that they can't even get submersible down there. Yeah. But there's actually a backstory with that includes Bob Lazar really that sunken city. Yeah. And it goes as such that our Navy discovered it in the 1970s and they found in that city was an intact UFO and with great effort, they were able to take extracted out of there and inside they found the energy source about the size of a basketball and it was none other than the father of the hydrogen bomb himself, Teller, who said while they were working on it in Area 51, they couldn't get it to work again. All right, cut it in half and it created a small nuclear explosion killed all the scientists and Bob Lazar said he was brought on as the next generation of scientists hired by Edward Teller himself out of Los Alamos. Um, he definitely, I don't know if he was hired by a teller, but he was recommended by a teller. Okay, for that too. And he came on to the team, but he always said that it was from this UFO found off the Cuba site that they were working on that teller said just cut it open and it set off a small nuclear explosion killed all the scientists. I wonder if it was element 115. Another show. Yeah, it's another show. Do you have any favorite of these ancient cultures? Yeah, I guess I'm always drawn to Atlantis because I think we have the most data points there. Okay. That there is, there was an ancient civilization that was very high tech from the RH negative blood type to what Edgar Casey said that in 1968, much later than his period he was already passed away. That's when they found the Bimini Road. That's true. So there's all these data points that kind of come in and connect to this high tech civilization being Atlantis. Um, and another one of these pole shift scenarios where continents moved around and drifted and big catastrophes took out much of the land following, but then the survivors built Egypt as the Osirian Emp. And then that was pick up the story then with civilization starting all over once again. We're starting once again. Do you think when civilization gets restarted that we have help from someone? Well, that's a hard one to prove. Yeah. But I think with all the UFO fun fun time. Yeah, we're in fun time. Right. This is when we go the extra hour. Yes. And talk about the fun time. Yeah. When you when you once again connect all these data points to the Roswell crash to all the UFO sightings, I had an opportunity to talk one on one with Dr. Stephen Greer during the conscious awards. We're out on a yacht tour and it started pouring rain. I come running in and there he is. Hey, Dr. Greer, we had met before and he knew me. And my question was how many UFOs around the world are ours or theirs? What do you think he said? I think he said 80%. He did indeed. 80% are ours. Our backward engineered flying wing. Honeyboo craft. Lockheed Martin, all that stuff. And the ETs are here. They don't always want us to see them. And notice how it's always been all looked at the skies. The X terrestrials are going to come down. What about right below our feet? What about the inner terrestrials? Right. That's the story we never rarely hear. I think they've been here for a long time. I think so too. And I don't I'm not convinced they're from another planet. Hmm. I think they're terrestrial terrestrials. Absolutely. And when you talk about these ancient civilizations, the connections start to make themselves. And I think we should be looking underwater or we should I don't think we should be looking in the sky. And isn't it interesting that all of a sudden Trump and other military people, Grasch, are talking about under the ocean civilizations and interterrestrials coming from the oceans. That might be the next big story where they're coming from right here on planet Earth, right under our oceans. Yeah, there's a rumor or a story about something that was found or heard deep in the Mariana trench. But we can't go. We can't go there. So if you wanted to hide, that's where I'd go. We hear stories about the craft off of Malibu, off of Catalina Island, giant craft in near the Bimuda Triangle that the Navy says that they're aware of and when it moves, they keep their distance. And a small crafter coming out of this thing. Guadalupe Island, Oklahoma, Mexico. Yes. And that is my final chapter in underwater archaeology, our underwater ET bases and all the locations underwater that are very anomalous that are associated with ET races living under our oceans. Now in Olsen style, we're going to have maps of everything. I can't wait. I can't wait. Anything else you want to cover about secrets of Antarctica before we get to a few final personal questions? Well, just that this is the last great enigma on planet Earth. I mean, if you were an ET race and you wanted to hide from satellites or military or governments, the last truly unexplored areas are these deepest depths of the ocean and under the ice in Antarctica. And that's where I think real true disclosure could come from. What do you think happens if Iran really goes? If they're if Iran really really goes to the hull, then they would disclose that here is this entrance with a road going down into it. You don't think nations prevent them from going? Well, I think there would probably be a war before they were allowed to do that or even set up a base. You know that there were now, right? There is a war now. It would certainly escalate. Maybe this is why we went to war with Iran is to prevent them or delay them from getting down there. I have my concerns about that because I've been hearing about their nuclear program for a long time and we're a war again. So I have my concerns about that, especially when I heard that they were interested in the South Pole. We'll have to see what happens. Yeah. That's the biggest y-file of them all. It is. All right. What's the biggest, what's the biggest basement party you ever threw? Was it Psycho Bash? Was it the box? What is this part of your life about? Oh, well, this part of my life is about the research, getting to the bottom of it. From the time I was a kid, I just started questioning, why don't we live on a utopia planet? Humans are smart or clever. We can figure this stuff out. We don't have to have people going to sleep starving tonight and one quarter of the population does. You're such a hippie man. I just want it. We're good for everybody. We're greedy and selfish. I want to escape this prison planet. How do we do that? Who are the forces that are keeping us down? That's the scavenging prison title of Beyond Us Turing. It's a great book also. And just trying to really get to the bottom of all this and it turns out like Bill Cooper said, you put the aliens in the middle of this stuff and you get all the answers because there has been multiple agendas on earth. And I just came from Dulce, New Mexico. My first time going there. Oh, the secret of the grenades. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the Archuleta Mesa. It's a weird place. I'll tell you. Of course, didn't see anything or any sightings, but just those data points of Paul Benowitz and Castile who had eyewitness reports going there and the high speed tube from Los Alamos and I went there for the first time too. That's it. two dulce is the only sign and those tubes. So it's just putting all this together, AJ. I mean, it's a macro puzzle with so many moving parts and so many pieces, but it all kind of leads to this question, why have the human race? Why do we still go to war? What is this all about? Why are we being suppressed in becoming the best we can be? And even the superhuman abilities, which I think we're all born with these innate abilities of telepathy, of astral traveling, if we are taught properly in school, we could be doing telekinesis and bending spoons and stuff, but we're not being taught that. And my question always is, why? The why files? Why? Why? Well, back, yeah. That's part of the Anunnaki stories thing, is they suppress all those powers that we have. I think you're right. I think there's something to it. Absolutely. I mean, uh, there's section in modern esoteric, it ends with the chapter, so you want to throw a street fare. Yeah. Right before chapter on the Buddha. So why is a permanent noise complaint? How to in a book about hidden knowledge? What is that about? Well, I saw an interview with the Dalai Lama one time and somebody said, well, what can an ordinary person do to help make world peace a reality? And he said, well, you can throw a festival. You can bring people together, have a good time, bring up the enlightenment value that way. Is that your Dalai Lama impression? That is. It's not bad. I'm trying. And so I just took that to note that, hey, yeah, maybe there is something we can do. And so for 25 years, I threw the biggest electronic street fare party in San Francisco. So people are wondering, you know, are you this nice? And you are. And I think one of the reasons if you could tell the story is what you witnessed in Calcutta. Yeah. Calcutta is one of the poorest cities in all of Asia. It's where I kind of like the Buddha when he left the princely confines in Nepal. He saw starving people, people without limbs, people living in the worst form of poverty. What was true then is also true now. And it really affected me on a soul level. And that's why I say, why can't the human race find out a way to take care of the lowest common denominator? Because really, we're only advanced as the people starving on the streets of Calcutta. So as long as that's occurring, that's a reflection of the human race. And I just thought there has to be a better way. There has to be a way to lift high tide lifts all boats. And there's got to be a way to bring us together as a human family. And that's what the ETs have also said, that they're waiting for us to come together to really create a peaceful society here before we could sit at the table with them. Because right now, looking down on earth, this is like the planet of the apes. We're not ready, man. We're not ready yet. But you and I know we are ready. But until that time comes, we have to just ask these questions, why is there this injustice in the suffering in the world? Why are there still genocides being taken place? And we don't want to get into the political side of this. But we just look at the big picture of what's going on with the human family and there's still so much animosity. Well, if we get beyond the politics and think about all the nations that are at war, if you talk to the people, not the salt, not the generals, not the leaders, if you talk to the people, nobody wants to be at war. No. China doesn't want to be at war. Iran, Iranians don't want to be at war. Nobody wants to be at war. And that was my big takeaway from Calcutta and traveling around the world for three years. And in my 20s, I was basically living out of a backpack most of that time. And the big takeaway is people are good and genuine and friendly and kind. And they only want to invite you in. And I found that the poor, the people are the more generous they are. Come into my home, meet my family, have a cup of tea. Let's find that singularity, that similarity between us. And it's there. Even if you can't even speak a single word to that person, you can just look into their eyes and see that they have a big heart. And they want what's best for everybody else, just as I do, coming from this affluent country called America, where everybody thinks we're a multi-millionaire, and we've got everything we'd ever want. But they don't understand that people here in this country are so focused on the bottom line and making money and advancing their career that they lose sight of all the rest around the world. And that's what I would like to reflect in my books and in my interviews is that we are a human family. And until we treat ourselves in that way, we won't be invited to the table with the benevolent ETs. And maybe justifiably so. But I think there are enough of us that we will change this equation and we will someday. I hope in our lifetimes that this could happen and end a war, an end of starvation, true justice for those who have perpetrated these crimes against humanity. Or I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful. If you guys buy one book, you've got to buy the Antarctica book because you'll love it. Well, I got to the last question because that was just beautiful what you said. When you were in Arlington Heights, ground was flat, the winters were long, and you figured there was a big world out there. Now you've been on all seven continents is the world better than you thought or smaller. I like the name of the tour travel guide company Lonely Planet. And it's kind of a lonely planet out there. There are a lot of people who are very shocked but also very happy to see people like me coming through. Now right now is such an incredible time, AJ. You still have uncontacted tribes in the Amazon and Papa New Guinea. And then we're already in outer space and there's already a breakaway civilization. We're all part of the human race. We're all part of the same family. We all bleed red blood. We're all humans. And I think there's a connection whether it's telepathic or whether it's just because we're all human that we have a sense that there are still stone age humans alive today. And also people off planet. We're all part of the same group of human homo sapien. But now things are changing and there's hybrid hybridization. We know from Dolly the sheep that cloning is possible. So there's all these off branches that are happening as well. But at the same time we're still the human race. And I think we can't lose sight of that. That even those stone age people in these uncontacted tribes maybe in dream state they think oh we're up there already. We're in these off planet civilization. You know Margaret Meade the great anthropologist. She did the cargo cults study where we would drop the cargo in World War Two and then a whole cult grew up out of this that that they could call John from and where did that come from? Well they always say hey I'm John from Nebraska. I'm John from Illinois. John from that's all they heard and that's was the name of those species. So it's kind of a cargo cult of the modern age where we're wishing and hoping and praying that someday we can meet John from come on down here and unify us but they don't want to do that. They don't want to be our nanny and say oh we're landing on the White House lawn and we're here to save humanity. Then they're responsible for us. They want us to make those changes ourselves. And I think justifiably so we should be the change we want to see in the world. That was Brad Olson. Bye everybody. That was Brad Olson who spent his eviction check sailing to Antarctica to ask in person. Let's start with Admiral Bird. Hi Jim happened. It ended early and the Chilean interview was real. But the poll to poll is a loose translation. Bird was warning about hostile crafts coming over the polls but he was talking about planes. Not UFOs. Probably. Now the prime ministers. The Merkel story is an old internet hoax with a doctor photo. She was born in Hamburg in 1954 to a Lutheran pastor. Brad said he hasn't done the legwork so I did. That search is in my history now but I'll never get rid of it. But it was a hoax. And Bird's son. I nodded when Brad called that death mysterious because I heard it that way too. He did board a train of boss in 1988 and turned up dead in Baltimore. A few days later in a warehouse. Medical examiner found dehydration and malnutrition that it does sound suspicious but he probably had Alzheimer's. I'm just going to lost. It's probably what happened. Now look I've covered high I jump, and a lot of the mysteries of Admiral Bird and in Antarctica, I've debunked most of them. And if you want detailed breakdowns of the stories, watch the episodes. That's where I debunk the hardest. Remember, this is a storytelling show, not a debate show, whether the stories are a little embellished or completely fake, I still want to hear them, and you're smart enough to choose what you want to believe, shows up to you. But I still respect that Brad spent his own money to ask those questions to people's faces at the bottom of the world. I don't know anyone else has done that. Brad's book is Secrets of Antarctica. Is a lot of it debunked? Yes. Is the book a lot of fun? Absolutely. You can learn more about him at Brad-Olsin.com that's O-L-S-E-N, and everything I mentioned is linked down below. Until next time, be safe. Be kind. Another view. I appreciate it. I believe it's an area 51, a secret code inside the Bible said I was. I love my UFOs and paranormal bones, as well as mirrors it, so I'm saying it like I should. But then another conspiracy theory becomes the truth with my friends, and it never ends. No, it never ends. I feel the crab cat, and I got stuck inside my home with an chaos truck, I'll be in only two hours. Do it stand, look you've reaped the moon landing alone on a film set where the shadow be whole then. The Roswellians just fought the smiling man, and I'm told, and his name was Cole. I can't believe I'm dancing with the fidget, had no fish on Thursday nights with AJD. But when I laugh, they beat off to the night, all I ever wanted was to just hear the truth, so the world falls on your feet all through the line. I'm off man's side, and van, the solar storm still come to a god, the stupid city underground. Mysterious number stations, planets are phoned to, project stockade, and what the dark watchers found. When a simulation comes, you worry about the black nights that are lying told me so I can't believe I'm dancing with the fidget, had no fish on Thursday nights with AJD. But when I laugh, they beat off to the night, all I ever wanted was to just hear the truth so the world falls on your feet all through the line, had no fish on Thursday nights with AJD. I'm dancing with the fidget, had no fish on Thursday nights with AJD. But when I laugh, they beat off to the night, all I ever wanted was to just hear the truth so the world falls on your feet all through the line. [MUSIC]