The Baseball Movie Draft

[MUSIC] I'm Sean Fennese. I'm Amanda Douglas. This is the big picture conversation show about baseball. CR is here and so is Mallory Rubin, which must mean we are drafting today. The major league baseball playoffs have just begun and there is no more grueling sports watching experience. When your team is grinding through the agony of the baseball postseason, most of us won't have to worry about that this year. Nevertheless, to celebrate we are drafting our favorite baseball movies and talking about our favorite sport on the silver screen, at least for me, right after this. This episode is presented by State Farm. You know the feeling, long day, good meal, you finally sit down and now you're just staring at your screen. Slasher, romcom, period drama, psychological thriller, but some decisions don't have to be that hard. State Farm is here to help. Like when you choose to bundle and save with the personal price plan, bundling, just another way to save with the personal price plan. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. Prices are based on rating plans that vary by state. Covered options are selected by the customer, availability, amount of discounts and savings, and eligibility vary by state. See our favorite sport? To watch or to watch movies about. Or to play. To watch movies about baseball. Yeah. Same three questions for you, Amanda. Favorite sport to play? I'd like to say tennis parentheses aspirational. Yeah. To watch. Yeah, probably baseball and movies for sure baseball. Interesting, Mel. Baseball across the board. Adam and I. Have been playing catch. Your husband, Adam. My husband, right. Sorry. Yeah. He's a he's a character on that, I guess. My husband, Adam and I have. We know we we got new gloves when I was training for. Cam yards this summer and just have have kept just tossing the ball around. Got some soft indoor friendly balls so we don't have to leave our home. It's been lovely. It's been great. You're going to catch in your home. We play inside while we watch sports. It's honestly. Really wonderful. You guys are like two 13 year old boy roommates. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For your companions, definitely. And yeah, I'd like to get back out on the diamond, maybe hit the bad engage at some point. So baseball is fun to play like to play football too. I like to swim. Certainly baseball is my favorite sport to watch, though I enjoy football as well. And baseball movies. It's nothing's even close. Yeah. Nothing's close. About you. And baseball is my favorite sport, though I think watching baseball versus watching football is pretty neck and neck. I still love watching professional football as much as anything. Favorite sport to play is still probably basketball, you know, about like playing basketball too. 10 years ago, Chris and I and your husband and our friend John went on a trip to Texas. And we spent an afternoon at the batting cages. That was actually a lot of that playing guitar hero. Not this isn't. I'm not trying to take away your moment here, but I still have a photo of you. I did. I'm guitar hero as five seven year olds are like, oh my god. That did happen. That did happen. Yeah. It was an arcade batting. There was a batting cage. The arcade and we went to the batting cage. And I think all four of us played baseball growing up, but we got in the cage. And you know, whenever we hit them all, we didn't hit the ball. The issue was really more like how we felt afterwards. Yeah. Because of all the muscles that were required to be used while swinging a bat. Which if you don't keep up with it and I haven't played baseball since I was 19 is brutally painful. So playing is still probably basketball movies. I guess it's probably baseball. Although I will say I thought this was an amazing idea when I came up with it. And then now I'm like, there's fewer than 75 baseball movies. I mean, there's really not a lot of baseball movies, especially not a lot of truly great ones. You've got this like up or wrong of seven to 10 films that are all time classics. And then after that, it's a lot of personal favorites. I wonder why that is. Any theories? I was curious because like, you know, obviously the 90s is this high watermark for the subgenre of baseball movie. And it ties in. I guess nicely ish with Soza McGuire and the revival of the game. And the Atlanta Braves. Yeah. Atlanta Braves. Sort of a low point for me. Yeah, listen. Listen. I've renounced them. Uh-huh. But they moved to Cobb County. You invoke. I don't fuck with Cobb County. But I was there in the 90s. So I was there literally at full and county stadium in the 90s. If I could have any team deleted from the historical record, it would be those teams. They went to the World Series like nine times. The only one once. I know. In 1995. I think it was really uncool and boring. A bunch of dorky white guy pitchers. They sucked. Fuck them. Okay. That's how I feel. I feel that way to this day. And they absolutely dominated my team this year. But I wonder whether or not we hold baseball movies in a certain regard because we came of age. Yes. During the total. The sort of great days. The early 90s and early 90s. Yeah. Of baseball movies. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's a big deal. It's fine. I want to go back to Fruitless 162 game season mirrors the relationships in your life. It's just piece of rally size and lows. You know? Sure. You go through all of it. It feels like something authentically lived about baseball fandom that's just I think distinct. And like the movies can be so deeply religious and poetic and literary and lyrical and they can also be hysterical. And so many of the characters in a baseball movie are going through some like reaching some extraordinary peak of achievement. And so many of them are just like, I got to like put my jock strap on for the fucking six month in a row. You know? Doing the watch. Yeah. Making podcasts on this network. Your team is going to the playoffs. Sorry. We're releasing this on Wednesday. So there will be no peacocking for me about this. Who knows what could happen Tuesday night. Any thought? I mean, obviously you had a tricky end of the season, but you did get in. Yeah. Almost a near historic collapse. Mm-hmm. Yeah. In September instead of October this year. Yes. And a nucleus of guys who have perhaps. Excuse me. I haven't been sitting living through it. You have a collection of 34 year old men. Yeah. Who are. This is kind of one last hurrah. I don't even know. They all have 10 year contracts. Yeah. Yeah. I expect to. This is just my theory. And of course, I'm not a Philly's fan. Yeah. I don't expect to. A dramatic fall off. Or. The two remaining. Shwarburn Harper. Yeah. Train Turner's already there. Yeah. I think I think. I would imagine if we're doing baseball like I would imagine Don Mattingley is. Is is going to be leaving. The club at the end of the season and that Alex Cora. We'll come in. And hopefully maybe we'll trade one of our. Our big bads to. It's team up a little bit. The Philly season though. I think you could reasonably say if they go all the way, would be. It has kind of the makings of the story book baseball Hollywood movie. Right. You know, like a bunch of guys you've spent a lot of time with over the years. You've kind of given up on them. And yet there might still be a little magic in there because baseball playoffs are just about. Getting hot. If you get hot for six weeks, you can. Change a franchises entire. Relationship to the team and history. And the movies are, I think the best movies are really good at that. And a lot of the movies are about like kind of signing up for a season with the team, which I really enjoy. Baseball movies are about a hundred years old. Speedy the silent comedy from 1928 features a hardcore Yankees fan as the protagonist. And they we don't have very many of them now. And yet next year we have not won but two studio comedies about baseball. It's time. Baseballs back. Do you. So straight. There you go. Give us some form of baseball if we can't watch the actual games. I mean, it feels like there's a little bit of a. A return, right? That there are a lot of good young players and people have been hiding for a couple years. Yeah. A couple years ago. Things, right? Games are shorter. More people are watching. I mean, maybe not born out by statistics, but they they can spin it, you know, to say that's true. I don't. Are you watching a baseball? Is baseball back? I don't know. I never want to wait for me. We never want to wait for you. So I did grow up in a home where the baseball game would be on every night. That was sort of we weren't a huge TV household, but that that was allowed. And it was sort of like the. Yeah. The background noise, of course. Yeah. And so I am used to baseball as kind of like a like a companion type. Entertainment and the way that I think a lot of people use like cable news now. And we haven't had it on that much. - Yeah, different effect for sure. - She looked right to me. - Yeah, you go to Caitlin Collins, yeah. - You are the MSNBC mom in my life. - Those are my gals, yeah. - The MS now supreme, so alone. - Yeah. - I don't really watch her alive. I watch God, I did somebody's show for LeBron. - Mm-hmm. - What did I do, and I was like, this is big for me. - Well, you can't talk great. And now you can't remember it. - It was Casey Hunt. - Was it Katie Turner? - Okay. - No, it was. - You would remember Katie Turner. - That girl I did it with from the earlier. - She's like, I think she was an high schooler's acquit. - Okay. - No, listen, a quaker in the mix. We haven't had it on that much this year. I don't know, and you know what's interesting is that finally direct TV and sports spectrum, all of the local news, all the garks in Southern California, straighten things out, so I could just pay directly for a Dodgers subscription, rather than paying three times to not be able to watch the dutters, and then we didn't even watch that, so. - It's one of my favorite moments in Big Pick history. I'm going off the dome here, but I want to say it was the Monkey Man pod, 'cause that sound right. We're in the middle of that podcast. And I happened to have a very, very significant memory this because I was stuck in a one hour, seven minute attempt to leave Angel Stadium Park. I was also at a baseball game. - Wow. - You just started talking about the Mets, and then you started railing against the limits. - I mean, we were like, we've had MLB League pass. - Plus, we paid for YouTube TV. - That's a matter of cable. - Yeah, and it does not matter. There was nothing that I could do to pay, and they did fix that, and then we didn't turn it on. - The good news is, the finances of the Dodgers are great. - Sure. - Everything's going to be perfectly fine since they figured out that issue. I think that color's a little bit of the baseball season. If not, I'll be curious to see if that infects any of the relationship to the two movies that are coming out next year, but like, the Dodgers thing I think has put a little bit of a poll over the sport over the last few years, and this feels like we've reached maximum Dodgers frustration where it's very evident that there's some criminal enterprise underneath the experience. I'm not officially a Diting the Man. I have no legal power. - It's just one man's opinion, yeah. - Do you think that Moneyball killed baseball movies? - You mean Moneyball, oh, the movie or the philosophy? - The movie, well, first of all, it tries its hardest in that film to create a romance out of statistical analysis in advance. - Sure. - I can not be romantic about baseball. - But for lack of a better phrase, it's almost too good. And then after that, there's this kind of retrenchment of like, all right, so what would a baseball movie in a world where people know what warp and war are? - It's really interesting. I hadn't thought about that. I think there's probably something to that. I think there's also just something to the state of the world in the cynical headspace that we all share. We're like, I don't know, a lot of baseball movies, and I say this with love and from a position of gratitude for this, but they're incredibly corny, an incredibly saccharine, and they require you to give yourself over to that feeling, right? They're often about some sort of connection to yourself, to your community, to your family, to somebody across time, right? To your sense of capacity and achievement. And like, I don't know, there have been good baseball movies since "Moneyball," like everybody wants some, was delightful, but that's not necessarily the most widely seen baseball movie. Now, it was an intent to be, right? But the way that people would point to the movies from the late '80s and early '90s, in particular, and say those were some of the defining films to your point from earlier Chris, like, of our childhood, or of that moment in time, that doesn't feel true. - Yeah, there are two post-money-bombed baseball movies that I hold very dearly. Neither are about the fable fairy tale Cleveland team that goes to the World Series, or-- - They're not even really about the majors. - Well, they're neither, but not about the majors, and if I'm guessing the two correctly, one is about, one is like a game, but it's really about everything that happens in and around the world of the game. That's EFIS. - Yes. - And then everybody wants some, is about, dude's rocking, you know, adjacent to a baseball team. Did the way that we, I was gonna say we, like, I watch a lot of sports, but the way that watching sports change the way that we relate to any of these movies, I mean, it does feel like there's so much extracurricular sports watching, I'm thinking about fantasy leagues, and all of the other content that's so much of being a fan is outside of the game, and most of the movies are for Moneyball, or like about, there is a climactic game and a professional in the sports league. - I think it's an insightful question. I'm not sure that it infects the enjoyment of baseball movies so much as just the market forces of them not being appealing to audiences. The reason why it felt like the '90s was this boom time for me, specifically, is because there's a period between 1992 and 1996, where they're making a ton of baseball movies for kids, and those movies, I saw every single one of them in movie theaters, and they're all quite unusual. - They're all fucking great. - At the time, at least, they were very charming. And that generation of baseball fans really fell in love with the stars of the sport, and thus fell in love with the sport, and thus fell in love with all the surrounding material around it. Moneyball, the book, and what it did to the sport itself may also have infected downstream our ability to enjoy, and even just narrativeize the sport on screen. Plus, it obviously has fallen pretty clearly into third, or maybe even fourth place, in terms of big American sports. - Yeah, and there's a counterintuitive aspect to that. We're on the one hand, the fact that maybe baseball is a little bit less central in the public consciousness and to the shared experience makes it for the studios or filmmakers less like, oh, this is a sure thing. This is gonna be a winner to make a movie about baseball, just because of the question of, despite my prior baseball's back statement, do people care about baseball? Are they gonna get excited? But I think the flip side of that, too, is like, I knew set earlier there haven't been that many baseball movies, but 70 some is, that's not nothing. Whereas like, now obviously F1 is just top gun and cars, but that's tapping into a new boom of American fandom, like a fledgling group of people who are saying, I'm interested in this for the first time. I watch Drive to Survive. I want to, oh, I've been thinking about his F1 for me, maybe I'll check out this movie. You know, wrestling movies, boxing movies, like they're just like a, we're not just making baseball, basketball football movies. There's a huge component to this, too, which is that it's really hard to look like you're credibly playing baseball at a high level, like just to look like you're a full player. Yeah, and there have been a few stars who have gone back to the well a few times because they are so credible. We, you know, I know you sell prime time. I don't know if you sell prime time. This is not even a spoiler, but there is a scene in which Robert Pattinson has a catch of the rose baseball. How does he do it? Incredibly. Yeah, sure. But like, this is revision necessary on your part. Well, relatively speaking, given his British heritage. Really, Skuller is on doing that scene, is faking being bad at throwing? I asked that question. I don't know. Presumably yes. My answer was yes. What? It was pointed out to me, of course. And this may come up in terms of what you think qualifies as a baseball movie, but Robert Pattinson plays baseball in Twilight. Yeah, of course. Okay. Well, great. Okay. So point of order. We should talk about the categories for this drift, which are the usual drama comedy at Sean added kids movie and wild card based on a true story and high concept. Yeah. For either high concept or wild card. Yeah. If you're taking high concept to mean, this is a high concept picked by me. Oh. Or interesting. No, wild card should be a wild card. Yeah. Wild card should be baseball scene and not baseball movie. This was going to be my pitch. Okay. So baseball parentheses. All of it. Wild card could be anything. Wild card can be anything in the world of baseball related to movies. Right. Okay. Could just be another baseball movie or could be a documentary. But you could also just. Exactly. I was thinking of a very broad definition for wild card. Okay. I'm down with your hike. I was thinking of it a high concept, meaning high concept on the page, the premise of the movie. Yes. But if you can make the argument that this pick is you prefer to just all go in wild card for dissent for the sake of not chaos, right? I don't really care. As long as wild card can be whatever baseball movie I want it to be or whatever baseball scene I want it to be. It can. Yeah. Then that's fine. Then you, then you, you know, I'll see. We'll see. Because there's a limited quantity of films. The balance between high concept and kids movie makes it very competitive. Mm-hmm. Those two categories, there will be a dearth. Whereas drama and comedy, there's a lot of picks. You may not love all the picks that you get, but there are a lot of options. Those other categories, a smaller number makes it more intense as we go through it. That's going to be really interesting in the first and second round, because, you know, draft strategy versus like this is clearly the best movie. Mm-hmm. Are we going to take, well, there are some really good ones in high concept and based on true story. Yeah. So there are a couple real duties at the top. But like, there are a couple movies that would definitely be picked as drama or comedy. Mm-hmm. It's like those categories are so deep. Does it make sense to do that in the first round? But if you can get your favorite baseball movie? Do you want to have the movie you love, or do you want to have the best overall board? Mm-hmm. Any other thoughts before we pick our draft order? I'm curious if you guys think that there's like a clear number one, or even a clear top four. No. I think there's a lot of personal variance and then there's a free-for-all. I generally agree with that. Yeah. I had one more question. Do you guys have a story that's been, that's happened in the world of baseball? or even like you can even think of that's happened since Moneyball that you kind of wish there was a movie about. - Oh my God, what a great question, Chris. - Malz is Freddie Freeman's road trip with his cat. That's right, with the-- - Yeah. - What about Freddie Freeman? - I listen to Freddie Freeman. - When you talk, I listen. - I know so see it and know about you right now. - What about Freddie Freeman's trip to Istanbul to get his teeth fixed? - I was gonna say that the Veneers could really come into play. The cat has like little like a manicure pedicure on the road. - We only raise it in years. - Now, why are people mad about it? - Well, it's just that they're on set at best. - Let people have bad veneers. - No, yeah, people can do it. They won't want their shit to do anything. - She did say that. - Yeah, she did. - I think there's just a few L.A. athletes who have very hard influence in the game. - There are many other things going on. Like, I'm never gonna do it. I can't do it. - Veneers? - Yeah, and now I don't sign I have matching chip teeth. So it's fine. - You should do it. - You should file your teeth for after. - I'll tell you what, I'll make it deal with you. - I'll make it deal with you. - You said that. - If you do it, I'll never acknowledge that. - I know, you said that. - I'm not gonna do it, I can't do it, but it's just like of all of the problems. Freddie Freeman getting his teeth fixed. I don't really care. - Look, the Dodgers have it all. - Yeah, absolutely. - And to that point, Otoni would be a hardster. - He's a great, he's a great movie. - It would also be an interesting heart of darkness underbelly story. - That's what I'm saying. There's someversaer. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - We got it. - When it's open times Otoni, that is the story. - Can you imagine if Sidney Lament was still with us and he made a movie called The Translator and it was about him. - Yeah. - That was awesome. - Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of like classic stories. Like we have not had a dramatized McGuire Sosa movie. And that's a really rich story, like their friendship, the chase and then all the aftermath and the kind of really the fall of that era of baseball in a lot of ways. It could be a really good film. - Yeah, a steroid or I think would be really good. I mean, God, there's some gambling stuff to do. Certainly, you could do something in a few years when Trout finally wins a world series with the Phillies after returning home. - Oh yeah, I'm gonna move back. - A career of the best player of his generation who just couldn't win with the angels finally go so I'm gonna do that. My pitch obviously will still be fiddling with your fucking formula. Peter Lonson. - I think we're gonna need some success in Baltimore before making a movie about that. - You would make a movie about a guy having like an okay season for video games. - An okay season? - Peter Lonson has 43 over on top dare you. - I would do. Did you guys ever see the video of the kid from LSU who is a pitcher and like lied to his coach that he used to be a, used to hit back in high school. So his coach let him pinch hit and he hit a home run and like his post game conference was like, I just lied coach, I'm sorry. I just wanted to hit nukes, you know what I'm gonna say? - I didn't see that. - But it's like one of those things where it's like that would be a good movie but in the age of like reals it's kind of hard to like squeeze anymore juice out of it. - Yeah, I mean, but that is, you find a lot of baseball movies have those kinds of premises to where they're not about the biggest stars, but this is like a wow true story, which is why based on the true story is one of our categories here today. Okay, this will be interesting. Let's do a draft order. Jack, what do we got? - Just wanna say, Maui, you're talking a lot of shit for a team that treated their franchise cornerstone to their division rival and missed the playoffs. Here we go, draft order. - Francia Adley-Rochman, franchise cornerstone. - Was that, was he not the Prince who was promised where you took? - No. - Are you serious? - No, that's bad. - You're being delusional. - That's good. - This is revisionist history. - Come on, maybe, how long? - God damn it, selecting first is Maui Ruben. - I don't know. - I don't know. - I don't know if it's a great draft to select first. I got to be honest. I mean, I'm having a minute to stick my favorite movie, but it's a long wait for the second. - Selecting second is a man to Dobbins. - Okay. - Let's take it. - And third is Sean Fantasy, fourth Chris Ryan. - I'll turn, I'll have to wait for the turn. - I dreamt on the turn last night, actually. - You dreamt, I did. - Did you literally dream about it or did you just think about it? - I don't dream about this show. - I don't, I don't. - You don't dream. - I do dream, but I don't remember my dreams. - Then how do you know that you dream? - Because I've had dreams sometimes. - Okay. - Like I've had, I've remembered, you know, somewhere between a hundred dreams in my life. - Okay. - That's it. - And I don't. - Are they, are they, are the dreams that you remember? Do they repeat? Are they. - I have a couple. - Okay. - I haven't had an anxiety dream in a while. - Wow, congratulations. - Yeah. - Must be nice. - My life is amazing. - I had the, (laughs) - She's that kind of vulnerability. - Oh my god. - Really, man. - I'm just kidding. - I'm just kidding. - Everyone knows that I'm a, a gesticating husk of fall in emotion. So that's, it's easy for me to say. But yeah, I don't dream. You dream all the time? - I, I used to remember my dreams more often, but I do dream. The thing is I wake up a lot throughout the night. So I have more opportunities to remember a dream. You ever lose a dream? - Yeah. - That's a powerful experience. - You start to really go out of your mind. - That can be very good. - You usually have a five a.m. to seven a.m. dream. - Yeah. - That's pretty vivid. - That's when I remember my dreams the most. - I want to share. - How wet are your dreams? - This is sodden. (laughing) - Okay. - Okay. - Number one overall. - They shouldn't be allowed to sit next to each other. - No, thanks for being here. - Guys, thanks for having me. I love this podcast. I love all of you. I love baseball, and I love film. I also love Kevin Koster. - Can you rank those orders? - Those in order with Koster. - Which we all know what you're thinking is gonna be. - Yeah, I mean, this is, this is no surprise to anyone. I'm taking Boulder. - Yeah, of course. Boulder is not only my favorite baseball movie, and my favorite sports movie. It's one of my three favorite movies, like ever. I just love Boulder. But it's a formative movie in my life. When I saw it for the first time, junior year of high school, I watched it five days in a row. And I just love it. It is everything I want in a baseball movie. It's obviously a great romance. - Yeah. - I mean, Annie and all-timer. Absolute all-timer. - Nucle Luce, what a character. - Correct. - And Crash Davis, historic, and, you know, Crash, ironing at his boxers. - Conditional text. - It really is. It's just boho crash. You do make speeches. It's just a wonderful movie. It has some of the most quotable lines. Lolligaggan, candlesticks. Rochelle, former member of the Baltimore Rails farm system. I mean, come on. What do you want from me? But I think this is a movie where, you know, Annie's opening monologue about the stitches on a baseball and the beads on a rosary. You know right away that you're gonna get a really special experience. That is an examination of the struggle and the euphoria that baseball uniquely provides. And it's just absolutely magic. It's incredibly funny. You know, you couldn't hit water if you fell out of a fucking boat. Like, I've watched this movie 500 times that I cackle like a lunatic every time Crash says that to Nuc. The garters. - What is it? What is this wrong lyrics for the song? Is she made by Lily? - Yeah. - Women, yet. - Women do. - Women do. - It's just so great, you know, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains, the baseball cliche machine, all of it. But like when Crash, I mean, obviously like I believe in the cock, the pussy, that whole speech is iconic. But when Crash says to Annie. (laughs) - I was just gonna say that's the peak of Kevin Cosby. - It's like that scene. That's it. - In his boxers. - Yeah. Well, that's a different one. - But yeah, he's, you know, kind of holds altitude for like a few years and then it's over. It's just, it really is an incredible cast performance. It's amazing. The, I think one of my favorites always though, until obviously, you know, 60-minute man and fucking in the bathtub and in the bathrooms and knock in the middle of the kitchen counter of the cereal, like all of it, it's just incredible. If you think you're winning because you're getting laid or because you're not getting laid, then you are and you should know that. Like has always got to me. Yeah, I do as a fan. - Superstition. - Yeah, like I think there is something that this movie understands about what it is like to try to play baseball, crash a career minor leader who has to train this hot shot who doesn't appreciate the thing that he has. But also to sit there in the stands every day, to give yourself over to this team and this experience. It's just really unmatched and unrivaled. I love it. I guess I'm gonna take it in comedy, even though comedy is such a loaded category. I hate to, I hate to draft comedy in the first one. I could take it in drama. - I think there's a case for it in almost every category here except for high-concept. - Kids movie? - No, no. - No, it's not a true story of Ron Shelton's experience. - There's a lot of real minor league baseball and it's a real minor league baseball. - I was gonna ask if based on a true story felt like too much of a stretcher if it felt eligible. - I think it's a stretch and we would, the board would need to consult on it. But it speaks to I think the kind of like - There's something about this experience. - Yeah, certainly that is undeniable in terms of what informs it. We're dealing with a lot, cursed gloves, et cetera. - Can I take it in that category? - Based on a true story. - I don't know if it's based on a true story. - I think it's based on a true story. - I think it's based on a personal experience. - Yeah, that's not really the same thing. I'm gonna take it in, I'll take it in comedy. That feels like the truest place for it to be. - Even though it's a loaded category. Okay, what a great movie. You guys like "Folderham"? - I do like "Folderham" a lot. - I just deleted it from the top of my comedy category. - We know there you had everyone have taken it with the first pick. - No, I'm gonna have to take my first pick. - I assume I know it's in drama, which is of course "Moneyball". - Okay. - One of my favorite movies of this century, as we did at work. - What number was it for "25" for "25"? - Yeah, that's kind of low, but that's okay. - It gave us accurate. - It is a movie about the, like, intellectualization, and the, you know, numberization and the corporatization of sports that then turns it back into as Mal has already quoted, like the most romantic movie about baseball, and sports made in our lifetimes. Incredible bad, Brad Pitt performance. Incredible score that the last time the Phillies did something good in the playoffs, you remember the Bryce Harper homerun? And then immediately got set to the, the Hatton Chad Hatton, what's Chris Pratt's character's name? Hattaburg. Yeah. The music. When it cuts out. Yeah. Yeah. Great, great meme. I quote this all of the time and, you know, it's, it's very moving and also a Girl Dad movie for, you know, the Girl Dad's Among Us. Then a Miller come back to feature films. Yeah. But, you know, Fox Hatcher didn't go as we all had hoped, but nevertheless, I would like to see him make another movie. Um, so you're putting this in drama. I am out of respect for Mark Mulder and Tim Hudson who would probably say this was not based on a true story. Yeah. And the girl Tahada. Yeah. There's not barely in this movie. None of the true stars of the open athletics really featured in the film. Um, one of the great moments for me of, of 2025 was when we screened this movie in Chicago and it was a secret surprise screening, and I've never really been able to like lead one of those before. Yeah. And so when the movie started and people realized in the room what it was and the excitement and the enthusiasm, that was really, really exciting and fun to watch. Um, yeah, this is an all time great, uh, and really the only truly modern all time classic, you know, like it's, yeah, there's some more that have come out after it that I like a lot, but one that I think kind of transcends. Okay. Is it, it's my pick at number three? Yeah. Yeah. Gosh. Where to go? Like a choice. I mean, there are some obvious ones. Yeah. There's some, there's some, some big ones. I, why don't you leave those on the board? Take some. Can I, I'm just going to pick my favorite. Go ahead. My favorite that is left right now is a league of their own. Is that what you were thinking? Yeah. Well, I, I, I, I mean, I still, I had to take money while I had to do it, but I didn't. I thought it might still be there for me, but you know what? You guys are feminists. The movie was never a problem. That movie wasn't making it out of the first round. No. No, I mean, it's, I mean, it's the one. So I mean, it's just, it's just straight up one of the most entertaining movies of all times. So, you know, I'm taking it in based on a true story. Um, yeah. You know, it is also a comedy and a drama and features amazing performances, Gina Davis, Laurie Petty, Tom Hanks, of course, great Madonna in this movie, very funny, Rosie O'Donnell in this movie. Um, this is based on the true life story of the All Girls Baseball Association that launched during World War Two to sort of backfill for the absence of Major League Baseball during that time. Um, and yeah, I saw this movie, me and my brother and my sister in movie theaters with my mom, which I get was a 92 this year, so I was 10 years old and I thought it was hysterical. Thought Hanks was unbelievable as Jimmy Dugan and where are we at with, with girls in baseball? Like, I think I, I think there's a girls baseball team at my daughter's school. I bet. I suppose to softball. Yeah. Like, like encouraging young girls to play the sport. Yeah. I don't, I should probably get my start getting my head around. I guess I should have asked whether, how do you know, no question Mark was eligible? Of course, for this, for this softball, because it's softball. I think it, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Success. Does Owen Wilson play a baseball player? I thought he's just a sports rater and I can't, yeah, I saw it once, I don't remember. Um, baseball, I don't think that's going to be Alice's sport, but issues like I want to play baseball. That would be exciting. Yeah. It was always a bummer to me when I was a kid. I had one year of, of co-ed T ball, but then it was like, then they go play softball. Yeah. I know shade itself ball, but I, I really wanted to play baseball growing up at Reisterstown, Maryland in the 90s. I really wanted to play baseball. Cal's town. Fucking know it, man. Yeah. Yeah. It's, um, DJ Sirhoff's town, Brady Anderson's town. One thing about this movie, the baseball is really good. Yeah. The staging and choreography of the baseball sequences, you know, the conclusion of the movie with the slide and the ball falling out of the catchers. Also, I just, if people listening to this, have not listened to the rewatchables on the League of Their Own featuring Mao's strategic breakdown of that last scene and what people shouldn't do. I recommend it. That's why we podcast. Ladies and gentlemen. Um, and yeah, there's like, I don't know, there's just not many better baseball movies in this movie. Yeah. Right? I want to pitch you guys on something right now. And if you, if you'd like to take the trip to San Francisco since we're, um, it's going to be October. It's going to be Halloween season. Yeah. Okay. Let's all dress as the racing peaches for a League of Their Own. You're in. I've never gotten to do it. You know how that was always like the hot girl group costume at Halloween and college. But I mean, Sean to dress. Yes. And I'll do it too. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no, no. You were all, you have to take a 51 second. Yes. I was going to go as, like, my, my, my, my, my, I think that you would look cute in the skirt, you know? Mike Myers one night. Is it a rockford peaches, rockford peaches and the racing? I forget what their, their team is called. Um, anyway, you know, you know, you know the costumes. You know the socks. Um, my sons do like, I kind of think about what's going to be in my closet or San Francisco trade. And I, it's always what I think. I drink beverages all day long. They do. They just always have the water bottle that I'm responsible for. You go as Michael Myers all goes art the clown. Deal. I just, I had an idea for a concert tonight of it. Okay. Well, I'm just. Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. Now I really am not going to have anyone to have dinner. But did you hear the he programmed this out? So I can't go to dinner. I did hear about this. But I am going to just wear my rockford peaches out 50 entire flight from New York to San Francisco. Uh, you more of a kid or a daddy. Kind of sort of a kid. Yeah. For sure. But I will say it feels like one of those things where your answer changes as you age a little bit. Just based on like what perspective you're bringing in the moment, but yeah, sure. So that's sort of like a eight in Mr. Big situation. And it goes back and forth over time back away back on Mr. Big. No, that's not bad. Yeah. Oh, me. I don't know. She's kind of daddy. I think. Okay. More daddy. And you. Yeah. Madonna. I mean, definitely. Yeah. Yeah. What was Madonna's. Oh, may more to be. Sure. Yeah. That's so. What was Rosy O'Donnell's character then? Rosy was Doris Murphy. Yeah. Three character names. Wow. Special film directed by Penny Marshall. Boulder on Moneyball. League of Theron. Yeah. No surprise. So that's the top. CR number three. Number four and number five. It's interesting. On to turn. Two movies from the same friggin year. Let's take field of dreams. In drama. Yeah. 1989. Fall to Robinson's. Delete. Adaptation of W.P. Cancel is novel about. Shoeless Joe Jackson coming back to life and healing generational divides and families. And. This movie. Every everybody's got one that's like this movie is my emotional kryptonite. Yeah. This movie destroys me. This is almost not a rewatchable for me because it's too. Effecting. Yeah. We did it as a watchable. We did it as a rewatchable. Yeah. But like some of like the hardest ugliest cries ever. It. Come in the last 15 minutes. Oh my God. That's really very beautiful. And. It's really quite great. Like I watched it probably within the last five years. The whole way through. And for his. Corny and maybe as like. Cheesy as some of the stuff is like boomer. You know, hippie dumb. Kind of like recovery stuff. God damn James Earl Jones is good in this. Costner is great in this. Amy Madigan is great in this and BuzzField is good in this. And like Leota, it looks beautiful in this movie is Joe Jackson. It's just an awesome, awesome film. Dude. I rewatched this like when you said we were doing the draft. I know I would only have time to watch a few of them. But I think the way I live my life is I'll just never miss an opportunity to watch. Pull German. And actually I didn't money about you. No matter how many times I see it, there are a lot of the big cries as you said, Chris. But when Moonlight Graham takes that step, I mean, it just destroys you no matter how many times. Like that idea of living your life for a thing that you never got to taste. And then you get it for a second and it's gone again. Yeah. What the fuck? The thing about this movie. I rewatched it in 2024. Nice. I similarly have a very emotional relationship. I think most young people when you see this movie, and especially boys and their dads, there's a huge stuff going on there. But it's an extremely strange movie about obsession. And I think it feels like a little bit more like a horror movie than it does. Like a voice in the point of telling him what to do. Yeah. This thing is family's what well being on it. Yeah, for sure. Just ask his wife a number of times if she thinks he's insane. Exactly. So it is not, I think it's not maybe what younger generations might think it is based on the poster of Costner standing in front of the moonlight when the cornfield. Yeah. I would say the last 20 minutes are different than the rest of the movie. You know, like that. The rest of the movie is like a time surreal. At times comic. It feels like a midlife crisis. Yeah. And a midlife crisis movie. And then the last 20 minutes are like holy shit. The waterworks are on. Yeah. Same year I'm going to take major league in comedy. This is kind of like the two sides of my 12 year old being was like one was like getting in touch with like a world of adult emotion and like ideas about like you're not always going to be young and like time is a thing. But then this move major league is a movie that I just watched 403 times. And just like Rick Vaughn is an important person to me. [LAUGHTER] - Right. - Renee Russo in this film. - Yeah. - Yeah. (indistinct) - This is David S. Ward's movie about what would happen if the now Cleveland Guardians, but back then the Cleveland Indians, had somehow made a crazy run into the playoffs against odds with the evil owner, Rachel Phelps, who's trying to sabotage the team with the actress so that she can move the team to Florida and live like a better life outside of Cleveland. - Little did we know the then Florida marlins were right around the corner. - Yeah, I am. - The team would change their name to the Guardians. - And this is an ensemble of like Dennis Hayesburg, Corbin Bernson, Charlie Sheen, Tom Berenger, Wesley Snipes as Willie Mays Hayes, ton of character actors, and it's just a season of baseball comedy, and it is perfect still. It's so fucking good when Wild Thing comes in. - Oh my God. When they play the song in the whole stadium saying, "It's fucking electric." - It really is. - Don't know how this one ages or how it goes for like, I don't know, like how it would play for like a 13 year old now, but I know it's a pretty perfect movie in its own way. - Right back. - I'm gonna give some love to James Gammon, the manager, Lou, Luke Taylor, who's unbelievable. - Has a heart attack in Major League 2. - I probably have seen Major League 2 more than Major League 1. - Really? - Yeah, 'cause it was on cable all the time as a kid. - Oh my Eps fan. - You know, he did-- - He did his thing. - Solid work filling in for Wesley. We would have preferred Wesley Snipes, but you know, he did his thing. Okay, those are two very good picks. - There's a character in Major League 2 named Kamikaze Tanaka. Who I don't know if that's the most sensitive meaning of a character I've ever seen. - Oh dear. - I want to say Major League also. - Yeah. - No, it didn't say for his character Pedro Serrano, not exactly the most woke characterization. - Yeah. - A voodoo practicing slugger. - Okay. - Can't hit the curve ball. - I mean, those are two all time classics. I'm gonna take the most recent favorite in comedy and take everybody once on it. - Okay, I love that movie. - Just because I think it is the most elite baseball hangout movie of all time. I think the thing that gets the most right is what baseball bros are like, you know. I played travel baseball. I was just talking with somebody about this. Maybe even your husband, Amanda, but I joined a travel baseball team when I was eight. And I played travel baseball until I was 17. And so I, in addition to playing for the school team was just around my teammates around all year for 10 years. - Were you preparing Zach for the next decade of his life? - That's what we were talking about. I was like, you've got two boys and they both look like athletes. - Yeah. - You're fucked. - Yeah. - And I wasn't even that good, but I was still on a team that was like traveling all around Long Island every Saturday. - In San Bernardino on a Saturday. - I was gonna say, do you want to be the travel baseball coach? - I think you need to be more esteemed than that. No offense. I know you were a football player yourself. - I guess by that I met like family coach. - Oh, you mean like your show for a personal trainer? - Yeah. - This will be obviously is about a college team, a Texas college team that is very specifically based on Richard Linklater's experience. He grew up as a very competitive baseball player. And the cum Rotterdam-- - It's just for San Houston State what's called. - That's where he played. I don't know if that's actually the school that is portrayed in the movie, but that is where he played. - And it's just very authentic to the way the guys should talk, the way that they talk about girls, how they party, their relationships, their friendships, their rivalries, you know, the ways they don't get along. The, what is Kurt Russell's son's name? - Wyatt. - Wyatt. - The Wyatt Russell character in this movie is one of the greatest creations in modern American history. - So good. - And him listening to Fleetwood Mac, Pink Floyd, he's a Pink Floyd. - Is it Pink Floyd or is it the-- - I thought he was listening to-- - I thought it's Fleetwood Mac's song. - Oh, you might be right. - It is instrumental. It might be Pink Floyd. I can't remember. Anyway, taking Bong hits and then we later learn out, learn that he's 30 years old. One of the most amazing reviews, like Casually, is to leave the team. This movie cracked me up and is a very warm and cozy night light kind of a movie that I really dig. So I'll take that and call me. - Great one, great pack. Oh, Dobbins, what do you do? - I'm gonna go kids movie and I'm gonna do Sandlot. - Yeah. - Well, you got to. - I think that was the leader. - It's right there. - That would make sense. - I mean, this is also, this is '93. So you get to leave your own in '92. Sandlot in '93. I was like eight and nine, saw both of these in theaters. I don't want to bring up any harsh memories, but baseball is like a live locally where I was at that time. And this is-- - They say much the same thing in Moscow right now, you know? (laughing) - I've renounced them. Okay, I was there, but I left. - They had one yet at this point. - Yeah, but it was exciting. And you got to, you know, they were in the, and they had not been like exciting for a long time. - We're just in on the chop. - Not good. I don't think that we should be doing that. - Yeah. - That was embarrassing. - Still going. That was their last year. - Anyway, now I remember watching this as a kid. I've watched it. It's insane that they still do it. It's absolutely everything about the braves then, but especially now it was outrageous. - Yeah, many people are saying. - The Sandlot. - Yeah. - It's great. - It's amazing. - The Sandlot. Let's bring it back to the Sandlot. I showed this to my son, who's four, my older son, who does play T-Ball. And he loved it, asked to watch it again the next day, which is the sign of a movie really. Yeah, and incredible, like ensemble. Of young kids, including, I had forgotten until I rewatched how like important my guitar winner was to me growing up. And then he just-- - Oh man. - And he doesn't act anymore. He's like-- - That's funny, the jet. - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah, powerful childhood. - Powerful childhood. - Powerful childhood crush. I just also got to say, like the costume design and these boys, it is certainly my fashion inspiration for my children and maybe possibly for myself. They look so awesome. Are you kidding? - No, I know. - I think they're the coolest kids in the world. - We had Wendy Pephercorn. They had many of the jets. - Yeah, so Sandlot it is for me. I think that's right, Pick. I was hoping it would somehow fall one more to me, but I was about-- - Yeah, I respect it. - I respect it. - I think that the draft is pretty unimpeachable so far. - Without looking, who's the director of the Sandlot? - David Mickey Evans. - Wow. - Who also directed National Improons Barely Legal. - Okay. - You would know that, you know. - Yes, which he started? (laughing) - Recently. (laughing) - Yeah, he also directed First Kid. Remember First Kid? - And Beethoven's Fourth. - Yeah, but first kid is not chasing Liberty. - Well, no, those are two different films. - Right, but they are about the same concept. - Yes, but the first kid was a more irreverent comedy. - Sure. - About what happens in chasing Liberty? Can you tell me right now, without kidding? - Mandy Moore is the daughter of the president. - Yes. - And she wants to be free. - Who, to? - Who is the president? - Yeah. - Sinbad. - No. (laughing) - Oh, I'm thinking of the Chantata movie where he protects Jamie Foxx as the president. - Is it like Tim Matheson? Who is it? - No, it's Mark Harman. - No, Mark Harman. - Right, and then who is the person that, so how does she want to be free? - She wants to be free because she's fallen in love with a classmate who's played by Leonardo DiCaprio. She wants to go to some parade in Berlin and she falls in love with her secret service agent played by. - Oh, Chris Pine. - Matthew Good. Chris Pine is present to us. - Matthew Good. - Please. - I love Matthew. - Please. - Is there a needy of these movies? - No, love. I don't know, actually. Could it be a chasing Liberty? - Oh, man. - All right, now you have a turn. - I do. - Two turns in fact. - All right, a couple of movies that I really love. - All classics off the board thus far. - I think we've got some left. - For sure. - We've got some left. So I'm gonna go high concept here 'cause that, as you noted earlier, is like not the deepest category. And I could still get one of my top two picks in that field. So I'm gonna take the natural as my high concept. - Okay. - Press is still on the board. - Yeah, I wasn't. I didn't think it would be a special pick, but I thought it would be a special high concept. - Super excited to hear you try to explain this. - Go ahead. - At the table where I was told that the mid-ecclorians were in a Skywalker family. - What's high concept about a guy being good about it baseball? - But at that, oh, Chris if only it were so simple. - So tell me it was so complicated about it. - I think so. When I asked Sean what's high concept, he said anything that has like a magical quality or something that is like highly mistaken. - Yeah, why are you doing all of this? - Remember when he berated me on the Star Wars draft and was like asking me more questions and sometimes then I'll let you do things. I learned my lesson. - Why are your nostrils flaring already? - I only have to ask you one question. - This is the only question I asked you. - I'm not mad about you. - He's a very relaxed dungeon master today. I feel like we could get away with all the interesting what I wrote to Mallory. - Why is this happening behind closed doors? - She texted me. - She texted them? - Yeah, but it's okay. - Why? - You want to bother me, guys? - Yeah. - Bringing in the council. - Anything that features a magical presence or quality, anything that is absurdist and gimmicky? - Uh-huh. - So, I would posit that it was pretty broad. - Yeah, that's broad enough to make a lot fit, including the natural a movie where a prodigious talents, life and career are derailed by a ill-timed bullet wound, but also a magical bat is filled by a bolt of light. - I think-- - Wonder why. - Lighting bolt hit trees all the time. - I think the natural qualifies. - Okay. - I think it's close, but there's a mythological quality to the stories. - Exactly, and it is baseball gods. - Yes, sure. - Come to Earth. - Like Roy Haas is a baseball god. He is a mythic figure. He's as much a comic book figure and a figure of lore as he is a baseball player. And so I think by that standard of qualifies. Okay, what do you think? - I'm gonna allow it. - I forgot about the also the random gun person. - I mean-- - And why that happens. - It's girlfriend. - Yeah, no, but it's-- - Who is it, Kim Bessier? - Yeah, what a night that was, worth it? Some might say worth it. - It's a bit of a confusing moment in the story. - It is. It's another kind of why I think high concept. And he's actually a little bit of a, oh wait, this is the plot of this movie, like every time you return to it. But look, you can't really see Roy Haas or, you know, these certain key terms from the natural without thinking of the spray of the lights when the Homer hits the light tower. It's just, it's great. Never tire of the natural. So that's my pick for high concept. And then because Sandlot is off the board, I will go bad news bears as my kids movie, which one? The first. - Okay, good. The first with respect to all the breaking training heads out there of which I am one. I'm going with the first bad news bears. Great movie, you know, Kelly Leak, an important figure. An important figure for people of our age. The cigarettes, the attitude. In general, bad news bears, you know, what a wonderful story that examines what is winning really worse? What does it mean? You know, second chances, newfound connection. And also tell those fucking Yankees where to stick their trophy, you know. Great film. - Do you like to seek one? - I do, actually. - Do you like to link later remake? - One thing I like pretty much every link later movie, one thing I'm always a little bit troubled by as I age is when people are like, oh, I watched the wrong bad news bears. - Oh yeah. - Which happens a lot, I think. - Meaning they watch the Billy Bump film version and they're like, oh, wait. So that's always, that happens. I think it's increasing. - The ritual holds a very well. - I've never seen it until this year. - Yeah, I love it. - It is wonderful. - It's such a delight. - And I was like, oh, this. - It's Michael Richie, and him in the middle of an amazing period. - Those kids are so funny. - And it's edgy for their feels when you're a kid. It's definitely a kids movie, but it feels edgy, right? - It's slightly promiscuous in a fun way. So yeah, the natural and high concept bad news bears and kids movie back to dog mob. - Yeah. - I'm sorry for what's about to happen. - Oh boy. - Summer catch? - What? (laughing) - No, I just, I, many of my comedies are off the board. So I am going to take you this. - That's fine. - Which I, also, is a beautiful movie. - Is that what we comedy? - It's funny. - It's an observational comedy. - It's also quite sad. - I'm gonna put it in drama first. - Well, so are all comedies because comedy is about exploring your trauma through laughing, right? - What? - What? - What's that? (laughing) - You circle on that? - I don't know, it's, it is funny. - Yeah, no, it would be considered comedy, but at the end of it is like a real existential kind of despair. - Of course, which is why I respond to it instead of, you know, some of like this more slapstick options. Yeah, this is, as we were referencing earlier a movie about a wreck league and one game that goes on and on and everything that it reveals about this community of people and what baseball but means to them but also just what it is to be a person and trying to connect with people and trying to find something that has meaning and to preserve it. - A real hidden gem from the last couple of years. - Really wonderful. So that is EFIS and that's my comedy. - In a tough spot. - I'm gonna fucking kill you. - At least movies are good. - In a tough spot. 'Cause there's three movies I want and there's no way all three of them are gonna last through Chris's turn. - I'm ghost blustering you, man. I'm trying to ASP you. - What? - Are you being Vigo? - I'm just trying to go to the carpeño. - I'm trying to project what I want. - I've done it. I can only do so much. - It's all good 'cause if you do it, it just means we're brothers. It's cool. - That's beautiful. - In drama I'm taking sugar. - That's not what I was gonna do. - That's what I had in my list. - That's a great movie. - That's more than that worked out. - Bowden and Fleck. - Guys, all these pics are great. - Is this their last great movie? Miss Cippie Grine come out before this. It did, right? - After. - Sugar, after half Nelson and then this. - It's sugar with a weight, right? - And a Bowden and Ryan Fleck, who are probably best known widely for having directed Captain Marvel, which is in a treacherous film. - In a couple of episodes of Masters of the Air. - Yeah, they made some TV. They made some good film scenes. - Was it the Callum Turner episodes? - It's the second half after Fukunaga vanished. I can't remember what. - The cut, okay, wow. - Sugar is a film, maybe in 2008, about a young player whose nickname is Sugar, played by Ahannus Perez-Soto, who is a Dominican farmhand. He's a young, like a rising young talent. And the movie is probably the most realistic portrayal of what it means to play in the minor leagues. It's very different from Bulldogum, which is more farcical and fun. And this is more about, it's an immigration story. It's a story about a person kind of lost inside of a culture and also a person who has to confront what they do when their life doesn't work out exactly as they're told it's going to work out. Very like sharply nicely observed drama. And there's not a lot of films about this, like this about sports in general. It is not about a famous person that features an actor you've never seen before. And it does feel like it's from a completely different era in Sundance filmmaking. I really, really like this movie. And it's one of the very few baseball dramas that isn't like a star-laden kind of gloopy vehicle. And we'll see if people get into those, any of those films as we keep going in here. But I would take this over to some other stuff. - Yeah. - Okay. - That's sugar. - You peck. - Okay, two for me. And based on a true story, I'm going to take it man out. John Sales is movie about the Black Sox scandal. I think we've talked about this on this pod. - We have. - At various points, but the 1919 World Series and the gambling scandal that rocked baseball, stars John Q's Act, David Stratherne, DB Sweeney, you know, Littany of other people, especially. - Incredible shoeless joe pod for me. - I know. - I know, I've got a shoeless joe. - Shoeless joe. - Shoeless joe Jackson. - Kind of forgotten because at the time, because a lot of the movies that were coming out about baseball around this time, celebrated baseball and celebrated the mythology and the romance and the fantasy of, you know, you'll hit the home run in the last ending or whatever. And this is about a bunch of guys who basically had their lives ruined by participating in or being adjacent to a gambling scandal in the early 20th century. And it's a fucking incredible movie. - Well, part of what's so good about it is like, there's a lot of nuance in the way that it's portrayed 'cause like, as with all John Sales movies, it's really about power and wealth and who controls who and the idea of ownership and just what a terrible, what was it, Komiski was the owner of the team at the time? - Yeah, but there's also, or Abe Komiski, you know, always Komiski because it was the way it talks. But then there's all this stuff about who put forward effort even in throwing loss, you know what I mean? And like the guys, like various guys who didn't really seem to have any idea of what was going on or guys who were basically like, I'm not taking the money, but you can only do so much as an individual in a baseball team. - And that is, I mean, that is part of them though, the plot of Field of Dreams, right? Like when he has to reckon with LeGill, he carries for saying to his dad, like how could you be a criminal? And then of course, this is the, this is the penance, right? And this is the way that he can reconnect with ghosts of many forms is to find some empathy for that experience. So yeah. - Don't say that to me all the time about Chase Utley. (laughing) But I walk into a cornfield. - Okay, so I take that in based on a true story. - Yeah, you have another picks here. - Yeah, and I think in high concept, I'm gonna take the 1980, now a third, 1989 film, and that is Night Game starring Roy Scheigo. - Oh my god. - Which is about a Houston police detective, trying to catch a serial killer who only kills Blanchex while the Astros have night games. - This is just, first of all, it's a fantastic pick. - It's one of the greatest movie posters of all time. - Yeah, it's a hook hand through a baseball. - Okay. - A lot of really good Astrodome footage in this movie. - Yeah, sure. - Shider, - That's what you were looking for. - Shider is on a phone, phoning it in. - Yeah, whatever he thought he was signing up for, this is the paycheck of all paychecks. It has such a crazy that guy cast and is mostly about blondes being murdered in Houston. - Yeah. - And I'm only emphasizing that 'cause the film goes to great lengths to be like, this guy likes killing blondes. - Yeah, okay. - It's on to be, I highly recommend it. Peter Masterson directed it. Transworld Entertainment put it out. - Yeah. - One of our great studios, that time. Um, you see this one big dog. I have seen this movie. Um, sitting at a 2.7 on letterbox right now. I'm looking for the logs. How do I see how many people have seen this movie? Not many. This is the first true twist of the draft. It's good. It's good. Test him it to my influence in that space to see if we get a couple of, a couple more logs. Oh, get those numbers out. It's the one million club. You know, Peter masters and also came up. I forget for the hack man. Did you watch full moon and blue water? No, I don't think so. Gar movie. No, weird career he had. Uh, I mean, honestly, a great CR pick. Neither of your picks were the movies that were on my board. Yeah, fascinating for me. Eight and out. Was it on your board? It was, but I already picked based on your story. So it was, uh, okay. I don't know where to put this movie, but I'm going to take this movie because this is also a relic of my childhood. I've got two potential spaces where I can put it. Okay. It's exciting. And I think I'm going to put it in high concept. Yeah. And I'm going to take rookie of the year. Yeah, you got to. This movie rules. It's really so good. I love it. I have no problem saying one of my absolute favorite movies on my board. It's so good. I mean, I'm doing it. You got there first. It's all I can do. Yes. No, we have the drinks. He breaks his arms. He breaks his arms. The tendon stays tight. It's too tight. And the doctor's just like, if you don't need to say it like that, just because I was watching night game. If you don't, I'm saying. And did. Okay. Yeah, this is wonderful. I believe this is Daniel Stern's directorial debut. He also plays the pitching coach in this film. Yes. Phil Brickma. Yeah. It was the coach coach. Bobby Benia is in this movie as a met. Yes. The met's are embarrassed, which was hard to accept, but the coves are kind of a joke at this time. So it was okay. They needed something. A couple of things about this movie, truly deranged Gary Busy performance as as Chet rocket Steadman. Yeah. He was a night game. He was like, but I love it. He seems completely coke. It's so entertaining. Do me a favorite kid. Don't call me that. A lot of demons. It's a lot of demons. Thomas Ian Nicholas. Honestly, great job. Great job by him. I'm not sure that the science checks out on Henry Rowan Garton, being able to throw 104 miles an hour, but seems seemed to like a lot of fun when I was 11. I just want to cite two people, one Amy Morton, legendary Chicago State actress, who plays Henry's mom, who's terrific in the movie. So wonderful. And they have that nice moment at the end when he's like, I know. I know. I may have cheered up watching that this morning. Yeah. Baby, every time I see what I did, like, rewatch it this morning because I was like, I haven't seen this in so many years. This is a great kids movie. And then the last person is Bruce Altman, who plays like the new set, dad figure, who's just a real mother-fucker, just a real mother-fucker. Well, I sold him. Yeah. That could have obviously gone in kids movie. Yeah. And maybe I'll be right now taking it in kids movie. Never the less. It is a high concept that a 12 year old boy would be able to throw 100 miles an hour and strike out major leakers. Yeah. Okay. What a movie. What a film. That's true. I probably watched that a thousand times when I was a kid. I watched it all the time. And that was on my high concept list. And now it's out, but that's okay. Things are getting a little thin for me. That's okay. You know, so I'm going to go, except for Wildcard, where I can go for days. So in based on a true story, I'm going to take the other film that made me cry this morning when I was doing a refresher, which is The Rookie. Listen. When he calls his son to tell him that he's going to start in the major release. I mean, it's wonderful. Yeah. This is a really good movie. Yeah. And everything with the team. So this is about it's Dennis Quaid plays a high school coach. And I believe, I'd know a high school teacher, I believe Texas, who did not get to pitch. He never got to try out for the major leagues because his dad Brian Cox didn't believe in him. And then he does. It's kind of a sequel. Yeah. Prequel to succession now that I think about it. And then at the age of 35, the high school-based ball team that he coaches kind of like goats him into trying out. And then he ultimately gets to pitch. And it's just absolutely beautiful. Based on the true story of Jim Morris. Yeah. I would say Dennis Quaid probably has the silver medal for sports movies of this era underneath the cup. Cap Rooney in any given Sunday. Yeah. And then all credibly credible as a medical quarterback. What's the one with Rob Williams? Best of times. Best of time. No, that's per Russell. No, but Quaid is a Ellis. He's got a football movie. Hold on. That's not. That's not any given Sunday. Yeah. Okay. Second. I think he's a really good as Cap Rooney basically playing Dan Reno in any given Sunday. The rookie is a really good movie. Yeah. Really, really. It's, and you know, it's like old school. Very classic. Very sentimental, totally disney-fied, but works really well. Very emotional. It is the kind of movie that the early part of this conversation was like, could you still make this and would you have stepped it because of its sentimentality? I don't know, but they're trying to do what's the Superman plays the giant movie coming out? Mr. A relative. Mr. A relative. It's football. It does look good. And I will say he gave like a very convincing intro. It's sent him a con just being like, you know, I'm Eagles born and bred. That was very hard for me to put on a giant jersey. And I just want you to all know. Of course, what's a G. I don't really recognize that depiction of Lord's Taylor in the preview that I've seen or Bill Parcells. Well, I've been played by the Michael Shannon who's known to play lunatics. Dennis Gray was in Everybody's All American. I've never seen that. Taylor Hackford. Okay. Now we're at a Mallory for two picks. Oh, hey, okay. We're getting down to the end here. Who's going to break the seal with Wild card? So I wonder if Mal is going to do you're here. I am going to take my wild card on the turn. Yeah, I am. I'm going to save drama. Now it's got drama based on a true story and wild card. I'm going to take my based on a true story. I'm going to take 61, which I really love. I think that movie is great. It's Billy Crystal. This is the the Marist mantle movie. Shout out Thomas Jane. Always fun to see him. I'm more of a Barry Pepper guy. Barry Pepper is Marist. It's a wonderful performance. Just sensational. Like a fucking optical. I really love this movie. The first time I saw it, I thought it was just absolutely excellent. And I haven't watched it as many times as I'd like over the years, but I quite enjoy this film. And it is like a version. You know, you were saying it's kind of like, okay, where's the where's the the Sosa McGuire bond stare right now like movies about this is obviously a historical backdrop for the PD moment that came after in terms of the records and what stands and how we now appreciate the the deeper history and new. But movies, dramatizations, fictionalizations about real baseball history. And these moments were every single at bat carried some sort of significant consequence. Just like, I don't know, electric. So yeah, I love that movie. I'm taking 61 and based on a true story. And then I'm going to hold on, hold on. Yeah, please. Who is the real who's the true home run king baseball in your opinion? Oh, wow. Okay. That's a good question. Do you not think it's Barry Bonds because of the service? I'm asking your opinion. I my feeling this is a very we could have a four hour discussion on this, but I think that it's a complicated thing in real time to litigate cheating and baseball because there are versions of cheating and baseball across baseball history. So betting on the game is like, but falling something sacred. So that's why you're not acknowledging P. Roses hit king in honor of brand wizard tie Cobb. But Barry Bonds hit those hormones. He did it with some, with some aid. To me, it's, it's crazy that Barry Bonds wouldn't be in the whole theme. Do you disagree? Barry Bonds is the best baseball player I've ever seen. So without question. And then what about you? What do you think? I mean, it's funny. I'm going through this right now. It'll be air and judge my ancestors cheating for the last decade and in the Premier League. Is that has that been happening? Yes. Yeah. And they've been brought up on 114 charges of financial was fraud. I miss one. Was dude part of it? Jude is not part of it. Okay. Thank you. Very important as well. Now my beloved Jude is hearing how he's part of it. Oh, dear. Oh, yeah. Yeah, everybody's got to return those. In any case, I don't think that they should have to give back those trophies. They won them. Yeah. Can you name the 10 seasons in which a player has hit 60 home runs? No. Sorry. It's not like a bunch recently. Like didn't call it all. He did it. He did it in 2022. Bonds. Bonds did it one time. Yeah. He hit 73. Sure did. Roger Marys hit 61. Hank Aaron. Hank Aaron never hit 16 this season. Okay. Did Hank Aaron even hit 15 this season? Not sure that he did. He just hit 40 for 30 years like that. I believe so. I know. Obviously McGuire and Sosa who we already talked about. Of course. Hank Aaron's the most he had. It was 47 in the season. Uh McGuire hit it. Did it twice? Sammy Sosa did it three times. Yeah. Sammy Sosa had 66, 64 and 63 home run seasons. Pretty remarkable. And PD's and four bats. Yeah. Yeah. He did have some help. Yeah, Barry bonds was 36 years old when he had 73 home runs. That's older than Kyle Schwarber and Bryce Harper are right now. True. So it could go the other way. Yes, they could get on PD start out. Yeah. Okay, you have a second pick. I'm sorry. I interrupt. Oh gosh. I think that Jude had some teammate relations issues recently. Okay. Someone from Realme. Oh, yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But my two remaining categories are trauma and wild. Yeah. Yeah. They seem to do that. Based on what I learned this summer. Okay. The highest overall rated movie that I still have left is and according to who to me to my personal ranking. Okay. My my color coded spreadsheet that I quickly whipped up. Great. I mean, could I try to get it into drama like maybe, but I think it would be more authentic to take it as my wild card. So I'm going to take Damienkies. Mm-hmm. Fuck. Mallory. Sorry. Really? That was going to be my home. I'm going to call comedy and high concept. I mean, you're selling your soul. Yeah, it certainly could have been. I almost took it at high concept earlier. Yeah. Then I was allowed to take the actual. Yeah. What the fuck, Mallory? I mean, fine. Luckily, I have another bad. You can get back in the back of me by taking silver catch in the last trial. Okay. Fine. Whatever. Go ahead. No, I mean, that reaction says you made the pick for me. I think with that reaction. Wonderful concept. Wonderful. Wonderful. Wonderful. Wonderful. Wonderful. Yeah. Did I see this on the stage? No, I didn't. No, I debuted some time ago. I think you see Tyler Ferguson is like, just does it. Has been doing it for like 12 years or something. The sensational stuff. Isn't it Bob Fossy who originally did the choreography on this? Yeah, and it's Gwen Verdun in the movie as well. And Fossy is in the, that's what I was just singing when they do the Mamba number. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck. All right, it's fine. It's okay. I already have rice. You know, my pick is the pick I have left is stupid, but funny to talk about. Okay. Let's hear it. You're up. Well, we said I'm going to do that. I'm obviously just going to go to wildcard and take good while hunting. And the scene that with the, the scene in the therapy of his head to see about a girl, you know, when he's recounting, like, yeah, okay. So this is why you were asking earlier. Yeah. It's just, yeah. Interesting. Multiple baseball scenes in good while hunting. But we call it a baseball movie. What we, we talked about this at the beginning. Yeah. We're project for it where baseball scenes in baseball related scenes. They do also get kicked out of a little league game, but they don't see it in the movie as going to the little league game. Yeah. Talking shit and singing the blacers. Yeah. A bunch of fucking losers. That's a great movie. Uh, I think I think that's totally fine in wildcard. Uh, the Carlton Fisk and, you know, reenacting it and waving it out. And I had to go see about a girl. There we go. So shout out good while hunting. Who are you rooting for this year in the playoffs? Cameraw for the Red Sox. Probably Bruce. Yeah. We'll see some Miz magic. No, it's pretty cool. With love to the Phillies, you know, we have the Dodgers. Obviously, it's obviously the Braves and the Dodgers. If we get past the Braves. So it's, it's off road. If we get to pass the Dodgers, it's because like, God has come down and touched Bryce Harper. And it's going to happen. That would be beautiful. That's a, that's a movie making could absolutely happen. Okay. Is it my pick? Yeah. Yes. Oh my. Kids movie. Banger's left. I'm going to take the bad news bears and breaking training. I'm not going to say it's better than bad news bears. It's not. It's good. But in terms of like, you lost your star. And this is clearly a cash grab. Kind of remarkably good. Yeah. Sure. Two reasons one is major league two. Kind of similar. Although rather than try to replicate buttermaker with a different actor, they bring in William Devane as Kelly leaks long lost dad. Kelly leak finds him. The whole movie is about this struggle between them. Their inability to get along. But William Devane turns us be a great manager. Speaking of the Astridome, some great Astridome stuff in breaking training. They're playing against the Houston team. Yeah. Yeah. And I think legitimately one of the best sports sequels ever. There's a couple of movies that I liked when I was a kid that are still on the board here. And we can talk about them. I don't think those movies are actually good though. Whereas I do think the bad news bears and breaking training is good. It's more like an effect. Like if you put one of the those movies on for me right now, I think I'd be like, I'm not as into it. But we can save that conversation in case those films come up. So bad news bears and breaking training. Okay. See are you've got two. Are these your last two picks? These are my last two picks. Can I have summer catch in kids movie? Very kids. Young adults. Young adults. Yeah. Yeah. What do we mean by kids? I think why not? I think kids is like a little restrictive. Summer catch is rated PG 13 for sexual content, language and drinking. I would be mad at you. It's targeted at 13 year olds. Yeah. I agree. Beal, Lillard, Prince, Denny, all cooking. Yeah. They're cooking in it. Yeah. They're cooking. Do you know what summer catch has on Rotten Tomatoes? I think it's like a five percent. It's eight percent. Eight percent. Why didn't say it was a long-lost American cinematic classic. It's just my kids' movie of choice. I support you. And it's about Freddie Prince plays a prospect who has one last summer to show his wares to pro scouts. So he's in this like basically like this my early semi-prod league in Cape Cod. Yeah. Cape Cod. Yeah. And then Jessica Beal comes along, gets in his head. And starts thinking about a life outside of baseball. And all his boys are like, this is your chance. You got to you got to he's like an Otani-esque two-way player. And Tendley. This is Beal plays this woman named Tendley. She's she's getting in his head about Tendley Parish. Yeah. Life and love. This movie was sold so hard to me and many other young men with a very memorable image of Jessica Beal emerging from a pool. Yes. Sure. Which was prominent feature in the trailer. I know it well. I still didn't go see it. I like it more than the other kids' movies that are left. Okay. Yeah. And in Wild Card, Interstellar is baseball Interstellar. The Yankees playing Interstellar during the Duster. I remember the Duster. Okay. The way that Christopher Nolan chooses to communicate the severity of the environmental crisis facing these people is to is to ruin a baseball game with a with a dust storm blowing over. Yeah. We also in addition to having a run out of engineers ran out of farmers, you know. Right. Right. In addition to having a shoeless joe draft, you've also had a cornfield draft. Yeah. And it's telling me because I've started to move into off of snow and mountain horror into cornfield horror. Okay. Okay. It's cornfield horror season for you. Yeah. Yeah. So what comprises that children of the corn of course. Yeah. How many of those films have you seen? Also Jeepers Creepers. Problematic but also very good horror movies. And we have so much time in October to talk about problematic horror movies. I promise. I'm going to carve out a lot of space. I was just I was just saying corn is on the mind. If the more problematic the movie the better for you. No. No. Not when it comes to horror. You know, I like it right down the middle. Okay. Good to know. Anyway, Interstellar is my wild card. Sure. Why not? Can I ask you a sincere question out of genuine curiosity? Are there not like other more fully framed around baseball, baseball movies that you'd like enough to to take or is it more just you want to take a stellar, acknowledging, we've been getting high concept as a movie where a guy hits a home run. I'm not I'm not trying to challenge. I'm genuinely curious. So you like I don't really like any more of these baseball movies. No, I have a bunch that I could have picked. Yeah. But I thought it would be fun if I do sell her. Yeah. Yeah. And a lot of my wild cards. I would say are only tangentially baseball really interesting. Okay. I have a wild card. Now, there are plenty of baseball scripted baseball movies on the board still. Documentaries. But I'll be taking baseball by Ken Burns. Wait, is that eligible? 61's a feature film. Ken Burns is a HBO. I mean, the baseball is nine discs. Sure. I know because it was one of the graduation gifts I received from my dad for high school graduation, the box set. It's a film. A documentary film. A lot of great. We'll do some big train info in there. That's a wild card. You know, we allowed Goodwill hunting. So I think it's okay to. Why, why are you talking to me like I'm a charity case? We discussed the parameters. She and I brought good content. Yeah. We brought good content ideas as it can Burns. I mean, is this not a miniseries Sean? That's what that's what I was asking. We have we've expanded the parameters of this category. Okay, and so I'm I'm feel free. You could have had so much fun. You could have picked something wacky. Yeah. I'm here to I'm here to represent that you're in history of this sport. Yeah. Which is finally told decade by decade across nine innings. Wonderful. In the original series. Now, one thing I wanted to point out, there was an expansion of the baseball series in 2010 to account for the time period between 1994 and 2010, which inspired a lot of time spent on baseball in 9/11 and the relationship that baseball fans had and, you know, New Yorkers amazing like Piazza home run after the 9/11 game. It's now been 16 years since the 10th inning installation. You know where this is all going. Ken Burns is national parks. Ken Burns is baseball. When they play a baseball game at Grand Teton, like they ask Trump if they could do. - That's when the two films collide. - Using Trump should direct it. - Whatever he'd like to do after office, that would be great. Anything to get him out of the pit. - Yes. - If he wants to make films, I support that. - I don't have anything to make to do. - Should he run Paramount? (laughing) - Yeah, it is, I don't know, I don't know why I am. - Go ahead, fight it. - Fight it. - She and I did a lot of work. - Yeah. - He really looked into where else baseball has been found in cinema? - By pointing out two of the most popular movies for the history of the show. - He grasped on where you're hard work. - I got a lot of those. - I'm just saying, yeah, this, I mean it is more, it's episodic. - If you want, I'll take Avengers Endgame on court. (laughing) - Because there is of course a memorable sequence in which Joe Russo says, I miss the Mets and there is an overhead shot of an abandoned city field. - That's right. - I think you should do that. - Yeah, because I wanted the social engagement of people being like, why did Sean have a traumatic brain injury? - I mean, there are other good documentaries like this. - Of course there are. - Yeah, there are a lot of them. I find my tears. - I know I was on the big documentary, you know? - Well, this is the biggest of them all. This is the biggest baseball documentary that ever will be. - Was it eligible for Oscars or was it eligible for Emmys? - It won an Emmy. - Wow, wow. - Do you think that Ken Burns should continue? - With 64 eligible Oscars or was it eligible for Emmys? - Well, oh, okay. - It was eligible for Emmys. - What? - Stop making the face of me, I don't know. - Do you have any questions? (laughing) - I'm starting to point out the obvious. - Well. - We allowed 61. - Sally filled one in Emmy for the Octopus movie. - Yeah, remarkably bright pictures. - Yeah, yeah. Congratulations to her. - Chris hasn't seen it. - I have not seen it. - You know, what's narrated by? - It's narrated by somebody. - Well, yeah. It's the octopus. - The octopus is the voiceover. - I haven't seen the film and I read the book. - Ever since they took Paul, the octopus for me, I haven't really engaged with octopus content. There was my octopus teacher. - Sure. - And then Paul, the octopus running the fucking table on the roll cup. - Yeah. - And then he's RAP. So I'm just out. - You know who voices the octopus, right? - In the film. - No. - It's Al from Melina. - That's cool. - Oh yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - Daca. - Versus on me. - Yeah. - That's right, exactly. - Okay. - Mmm. - Amanda. - That's why you can have, yeah. - You're taking baseball by Ken Burns. - Okay. - And Amanda is green. - So since we're all feeling flexible, let me pitch up. - Is there a boy? - Oh god. - This is gonna be more of a changeover. - Let me pitch you guys on the high concept of a movie about a magical baseball that little house. - Yeah. - He's in a dental cafe. - Oh my god. - Oh my god. - To take on the ice drinking. - Oh my god. - So you're specifically in the Marines. - I have bad news for you. - What? - That is a softball bat. - So yeah, 'cause you can have it when he's got a lousy fucking softball player jam. - Yeah. And he's like, no, no, no, no, I'm talking about when it's, oh, he really does think better with that bat. Is that still a, that's a softball bat? - No, that's a baseball bat. That is a wooden baseball bat, if I remember correctly. - He's in a wooden bat. - A softball put in the background. - A big men by any definition of a baseball bat. - Let me, let me pitch you on another. - I know they're a high concept movie. - Okay. - About two men, not brothers by blood, but brothers by the streets of Boston and specifically Charlestown. - Oh wow. - Let's go. - Who need to rob Fenway Park? - Yeah, sure. - She's not gonna punch in the movie. - Yeah, punch in the movie. - Yeah, thank you. Sorry. - Because they have to pay that. - Which one do you think is more baseball? - I mean, neither of them are high concepts. One is a legal drama and the other is a high-school movie. They're just genre movies. If you come up with a movie that is a high-concept movie that has baseball in it, we could at least entertain the concept. - Okay. - Can I give you one? - Well, I do actually have one more that I watched. - I just come up with one. - We're podcasting. - That's gonna cheat. I was gonna, I was gonna do it. - Just cheat for me. - Okay, I have one more. I think those were great pitches. And you picked a TV show and so did you, so whatever. But those are at least, those are films that were released in theaters that have baseball in them. And baseball plays pivotal roles. - If you had never opened the can of worms on wild card, we wouldn't be in this situation. - I did it, too. - I think we, if we were to say we were doing strict definition of what? - Of all categories. - Okay. - We wouldn't be in this, but because we opened up Pandora's box. - What in what position, that I don't have a high concept because she took damn Yankees? - No, we wouldn't, we might have been, you know, having to work through. - Oh man. - Well, you needed to watch more high concept films 'cause there are more out there. - Thanks so much, Sean. I love your feedback. (laughing) - Keep pitching now. See if you get one across the line. Or we can just keep this show running in perpetuity. - Okay, I have one more that I watched on fast forward. In the last 45 minutes before Chris and Mal got here, you guys know about the catcher, was this by? - Yes. - Did you see it? - Yes, not a high concept movie. - But the catcher was this by. (laughing) - Before I run, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - But then he has to like defuse a bomb or something. - I think you're not understanding high concept. - Take days to confuse. - I did, but Mallory took it from me. And then you took rookie of the year and he took field of dreams. - I don't know, not too late to do Angels of the Alps. - You've done too many. - I don't like Angels of the Alps. - I don't know, I don't know. - I don't know, I'm a Casablanca. I should be able to take Pocahontas. - They don't have baseball. So I know those films well. - Terence Mallorch, the new world. - I don't know, Angels of the Alps. - What about Little Big League? - Yeah, Little Big League is definitely an angel. - Oh, okay. - That movie sounds so great. Obviously, what you were referencing earlier, right? Little Big League and Angels of the Alps field, I assume. - No, they're not really. - They're not actually good, but like we have a fun story. - They're memorable from our youth. - Watching thousands of times. - Why can't I do Days in Confused? - I don't think it's a high concept movie. - It says, it takes place over the course of one night. - Is that a high concept? - It's a concept. - It's not really. - And they get high in the movie. - That's funny. If she pitched that, I would have accepted that. - Oh my God, incredible. - I'll reread when I wrote to Mallory. - What you did it right to us. - Features. - So once again. - That's so funny. - There was the definition. - You could have asked. - I mean, you know what? I don't like to ask for permission. I like to ask for forgiveness. - Well, unfortunately, you have to get permission from me to end this episode. Magical, this film feature, you walk off. And you're directly incomplete. - Yeah. - Do you want to file an incomplete? I don't think so. - The film has feature magical presence or quality, anything that is absurdist or gimmicky. - Okay, I'm googling magical baseball movies. You want to do this? We're going to do this. Okay. Let's see. - I don't want to do, I don't want to do it. - I don't want to do it. Just leave one on the board. - If this be a high concept baseball. - I don't think so. Okay. I'm willing to hand you this one. You may not have seen this movie. - Okay. - But I think Brewster's Millions is a great high concept baseball movie. - What about it happens every spring? - You know, I've never seen that. - Also eligible. There's a substance that comes into play. - See, I thought we're supposed to-- - The love of the game would be a high concept baseball movie. - I had it, but then-- - I think that's debatable. - Yeah. - Because of its structure? - Yeah. - Yeah. - Okay. - High concept is the first thing that they walk into the room when they pitch the movie is like, it takes place over the course of one game. This guy having flashbacks about his emotions. And in a way, for the love of the game-- - I mean, if Jim Yankees is-- - Usually, if you want to have a well full-- - Then for the love of the game can be-- - Damn Yankees involves creating your soul. - Because Satan is in damn Yankees. - I, you know, I will say this. - You even know what's going on in "Costner's Head." - I just love him. - I mean-- - He's not Satan, I can assure you that. - Got a hand job under a towel. Ask how do you like to be kissed? So we have a pretty good idea, actually. I have on my camera role, as I've said, on rewatchables before, about 5,000 pictures of "Costner's Smelling His Glove." - And that movie. - Very important film. I wouldn't mind it being selected in the strapped. - I'm willing to roll that if that's something you want to-- - Yeah, I want to take-- - And-- - That's a great idea. - And it's eligible. - That is definitely, oh, that's that would be amazing. - And it's about a baseball-playing monkey. And it was the first project that Matt LeBlanc signed on for-- - No, I don't-- - In the aftermath of his friend's success. - That is, that's actually an incredible fact. - Fine. - And it is. - And it is eligible. - You're gonna get to take some footage. - Holy shit, that was really worth it. J.U.M. was great. - I think I'm out. - You're out. - Yeah. - Mal has one more pick, excuse me. We're gonna get to go on the day, folks. - It's hard to top Ed. I have to bring the draft host to my last, but I actually haven't taken my drama. My last pick is my drama. - Wow. - Um. - Wow. - Congratulations. - Interesting. Interesting. - Well, Ed's off the board. - Yeah. - But for love of the game is still here. I could go with the cost and her book and, you know, bolder them to open and for love of the game to close. But I'm gonna take 42. I feel like that movie should be selected in this draft. - Yeah. - Right. - Sure. Give it if I just took Ed off my long list. - I'll try to cross off Ed, which I did have on my board. I gotta say. - I'm sorry. (laughing) - There were a lot of movies that weren't taken. Angels in the outfield, little big league. - So. - Pride of the Yankees for love of the game. Fever pitch, million dollar arm. - Shish. - Yeah. - A lot of documented hardball didn't get taken. - Okay. slowly didn't get taken I think bang the drums slowly in the bingo long traveling all stars are both great So I was too like great 70s movies that don't have as much of a legacy now, but I was deciding for everybody wants them for my pick here I was deciding between between between 42 and and bang the drums slowly, but I don't know how many I don't know Do how many people have seen bang the drums slowly? Do we think I've seen it great movie? I think all of the people it is very very good Michael Moriode and Martiniro as a pitcher and catcher quite sad who are literally tied together contractually and emotionally You know, I think Amanda you could have gone after the naked gun Oh, interesting, sure, but like I don't really care about that. So I mean, it was an iconic man Would you have a lot of Amanda to take Ferris Bueller's day off? Yeah, really interested in movies across one day being high concept. Oh, as a high concept movie I wasn't saying that I was saying it's a wild card as a wild card. Okay. High concept. I think I just had a different interpretation But you know what you're the you're the author of the spot. You know, what about mr. 3000. Yeah, for sure Have you seen that? Uh, that's pretty Mac. I have some pretty Mac the late great Bernie Mac plays a A player of some renowned who we learn due to a clerical error And in fact, he did not get 3000 hits in his career. He was three hits short of 3000 hits And so at the age of 47 he goes back to the major leagues to try to get three more hits Do you think the fan is high concept? I thought that you might take the fan is like I rewatched it for this drama Just to check in to see if it was any better than I'd realized or if I could reclaim it Yeah, and it wasn't as good as I had hoped. I don't know if it's high concept. Okay It's basically just the king of comedy, but for baseball. What about the scout? That is a comedy. I'm not sure if it's high concept. I kind of like the scout Steve Nebraska played by Brendan Fraser Yeah, plays a rising Psychiatric issues baseball star with some problems. Okay, and Albert Brooks is the scout who holds his hand through the process Leading him to Yankee Stadium leading him to a therapist played by Diane Weist. That's right. Sure. Yeah. I thought diamonds might take trouble with the curve The Klandi sword movie. Yeah It's kind of the anti-money ball. I do think I saw that but I don't have any Why light has baseball sure does for your head has baseball which one boyhood My best friend's wedding has a pivotal baseball scene. I really right showdown. No, it's it's white socks. I'm a ski. Yeah. Okay Were you hoping more documentaries would be taken? No, no documentary facing Nolan. Yeah Uh, a fastball league on for grabs better best for the baseball Yeah, there's a lot. I think they're all good and not great Um, Chris, you didn't take Cobb. I didn't it was between that and a million dollar room He can tell Amanda bit about Ty Cobb. Well, he was racist. Yeah. I think he was from Georgia. Mm-hmm As many races are I believe the Georgia peach is nickname and he was a diehard competitor. What was Ty Cobb? Okay. Yeah Detroit Tigers for the entirety of his career. I believe he was the Georgia peach. Yeah Yeah, he was a virulent racist. He played 24 seasons. He had a career betting after 366. Yeah. Yeah. He was portrayed by Tommy Lee Jones in Ron Shelton's less beloved Follow up to what the room in terms of baseball huge huge movie for robber will make you sure that North of ten twice and it's not but north of ten twice War north of ten twice and north of nine. He was an absolute team in a baseball who Ty Cobb his career war is 149.8 He was significantly better than everybody except for who Babe Ruth Rodgers want to study Ty Cobb stats, huh? Oh Again, I mean if you're a Ken Burns baseball fan. Yeah, I was so into baseball stats as a kid Um, what else is on the board any other Long list stuff let's see Anybody ever see game six Don DeLillo script. Yeah, Michael Takes place effectively through a guy who has tickets to game six of the 1986 World Series, but doesn't go That's like a crazy lost-downing performance, right? Yeah, isn't he the theater critic of that? He isn't that We talked about Friday. Thank you, sir. I really we didn't we didn't really talk. I'll pair it with another movie that I'll recommend for people If they haven't seen it which may not have aged super well in terms of its relationship to psychiatric health, but In 1957 is a great movie called Fear Strikes Out about Jimmy Piercil based on a real player play for the Red Sox That I saw as a kid Anthony Perkins plays him and I think it's like right before he it's right before psycho And he's amazing as a and an alfielder who gets the yips not unlike we were just discussing Drake Mays got the yips right now and a guy who can't Hack it in the field or at the plate because he's having some mental struggles and it's like a I thought a pretty sensitive movie given the time frame because Carl Maldon his father in the movie It's like really hard on him What else any other is this what her's wife as bad as everybody says it is. I've never seen it haven't seen it It's got like a 2% on how to say how much b's last movie 2% and you'll say I'm gonna read it Yeah, I will say that the catcher was the spy What is this bad is Really twice the speed yeah Well, that's question for you guys base kit ball. Yeah, I have it on my list. Is that a baseball movie absolutely? I think it is right of course Specifically not because it's base kit ball. Yeah, I mean there's is baseball base ball has to yeah We love that we didn't allow what did you go with the win? Would you go for it? That was Ty Cobb I got favorite movies. I see one I think a few good men in the town uh-huh and catcher was a spy which is quite bad. Yeah, days and confused. Yeah All great films that in one way or another they all would have been great while car picks include The sport of baseball. Yeah There's probably baseball on other movies. What am I not thinking of war of the worlds? Oh sure yeah, yeah, yeah They're like two seconds out the Red Sox Yankees rivalry. That's right. That's right Cruise speaking of our next episode is about Tom Cruise and digger exciting. Yeah Did you say they were excited about it? Sure, I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, I'm interested But you don't interest in tickets No, not yet, but I tend to Doesn't seem like chinesm. I tend to say this you know, let me look this morning. It's something available mid-morning That's kind of my approach unless it's like I don't like that. That's a good way to live life. Yeah Yeah, you will see it opening weekend This coming weekend, right? Well Saturday. I'm going to see the director's cut of Miami vice Michael may I will be presenting it okay. I will be present just you and him together He's holding up an iPad for you Uh But I will I will I will go see big day this weekend. Yeah Okay, big day. Uh, should we recap our draft picks? Sure Um, all right Mallory since you went first. You can go first. Okay, in order Royal round one through round six. I'm the only person who I didn't keep on trying to run back. Okay, go ahead Uh, I took Durham as my comedy in round one in round two I took the natural as my high concept and bad news bears as my kids movie In round four, I took 61 as based on a true story and damn Yankees is my wild card and then I took 42 As my drama in round six Dobbins, I'm just reading them as they are in the spreadsheet in comedy. I took effus in drama money ball in high concept the acclaimed film ed And based on a true story the rookie and kids movie the sandlot and then wild card good will hunt it I love when you do this girl at Johansson her voice Because when you're talking Baseball The catcher was a spy In comedy, I took everybody once some in drama took sugar in high concept I took rookie of the year and based on a true story I took a league of their own and kids movie I took the bad news bears and breaking training and wild card I took Ken Burns as baseball It is a wild card in comedy. I took major league in drama. I took field of dreams in high concept. I took Peter Masterson's night game And based on a true story I took eight men out and kids movie. I took summer catch bg 13 in wild card I took Christopher Nolan's interstellar Out of a closing stretch of fix for you. And night game this happens so many drafts Where I am playing so within the lines for the first three picks Yeah, and then I have a massive brain hemorrhage and start Is that what happens? Yeah, all the time It's always like I'm gonna win I'm fucking dominating Is it at the like 42 minute mark? You're like a now now? Yeah, but my three picks for I'm just going to focus. It's just that like that's your that's your channel. I start to just overthink it And like oh what would be cool here is if I did something for laughs and then I'm like oh no Oh no, you should at the next live show you should bring like samurai energy She'd be like I'm not I'm not gonna do bass. No, no laughs. I'm here to win. Yeah, because you know she's one like the last nine consecutive lives In a rougher and peaches. I got we got to figure that out. I just have a hanzo sword Yeah, maybe you should be a Beatrix kiddo from kill mill I don't think I'm gonna be Bruce Lee. Okay. Um, I'm not gonna be a rock from Peach. But I don't wanna be something. Are you gonna wear a costume? Of course I will. Don't wear a mask. This is not been discussed before. It's a great idea that you nailed it. So are you, it's only a rock for Peach. You won't do any other costume. I just thought it would be a nice group. So I never got to do that. You know what you should do? You never asked. We should make her do be the girl from the ring, the hair down. I've already got that color in her. Right. Thank you. Call that Tuesday. Okay. Hey, Mal. Thank you very much. Guys, thanks for having me. What a treat. Love baseball. Love you guys. Love Kevin Costner just to recap. Yeah. That's what I already said. Good job. Are you? Is it shame? You don't have like a legendary baseball player as your guest to throw to you right now. Hmm. A legendary baseball player is my- Take foreback. You know, throw into my- You see a legendary baseball player? To me. Um, I don't know who'd be my ideal. I'm, I'm in Carson Beck. Mike Piazza right now. Carson Benjers my guy. Mike Piazza. I complicated. Yeah. I know. He was a great legend to me once upon the time. Now I believe he's fully behind Donald Trump. So. And he was mean to Shyla Buff. Is that a fact? Yeah. What do you say? Did he not deserve it? When did Mike Piazza and Shyla Buff interact? He talked about it on his channel five interview. Shyla Buff did. Oh, okay. And he said that Mike Piazza treated him like shit when he was trying to get his autograph when he was a kid. Yeah. Oh. Wow. Gosh. That's a whole other episode. That's a rich text. Let's table that. Okay. Thanks to Jack Sanders our producer for his work on this episode. Thank you, man. Thanks, Lucas Kavanaugh. Thanks, Ed. Amanda. Amanda, thank you, Amanda. For all your great works here. Amanda and I shall return. Immediately. Maybe. To discuss. If he, if the apology is written down, he's solo on digger. And right aloud. To that prompt. Okay. Okay. I'll see you guys very soon. Talk about digger. Bye.