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The Barry Keoghan Episode

52m 27s

The Barry Keoghan Episode

Barry Keoghan reflects on his journey as a public figure, navigating intense online scrutiny and personal challenges. He discusses how negative comments—especially those targeting his appearance or past—have deeply affected his mental well-being, revealing a broader cultural issue of online toxicity and the emotional toll on public personalities. He shares personal experiences with severe health issues, including a life-threatening infection and years of psychological struggle, which shaped his resilience and artistic approach. Keoghan emphasizes authenticity in his performances, stating he strives to find truth in every role, whether vulnerable or villainous, and highlights how his inner emotional state influences his craft. He openly discusses his ADHD and its management through medication, which improves focus and stability, allowing him to engage more fully in both personal and professional life. The conversation also touches on cultural differences in food, mental health, and internet culture, with Keoghan expressing pride in his heritage and personal authenticity. He critiques the tendency to attack public figures, especially on social media, calling it cruel and unkind, especially when it involves real trauma. Ultimately, the dialogue promotes empathy, emotional honesty, and the importance of mental health support, advocating for a more respectful and compassionate online environment for artists and everyday people alike.

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Barry Keoghan, his heart is frozen. Okay, Barry Keoghan, or is it Quaggan? Barry Keoghan, he came from the old land. Jack, you excited for Barry Keoghan? Keoghan. How do you say his name? I don't know, I think you just said it. I don't know. Kogan. Keoghan. Barry Keoghan. I thought it was Quaggan. I'm going to say, hey, Barry Keoghan. I feel like he probably gets last name flack a lot. Nobody, nobody, yeah, it's like. People don't make fun of people anymore. What? Everyone makes fun of everyone. I don't make fun of anybody. I. Hey, enough. Okay. You know why? Why's that? I think it's really important for us to get a little fancy. A little classy. You're a man with a pan, Pied. These boxes do look classy. Are these. They're black. These are classy wooden boxes. Do you know what this is, Jack? Pizza. Not only pizza, but do you know what type of pizza? You always got to surprise me with the pizza. And I like that because I'm hungry. It actually looks incredible. Yep, it's incredible. You know what makes it even better? Sliced sauce. And now let me tell you something. Some people might call this sliced sauce. What I call it is heaven sauce. It's good. It's the best sauce I've ever tasted in my life that's pizza related. Really? That's pizza related. This is a food. Food man. This guy has a reputation in the food industry. It is good sauce. Let's put it away. Why? Because I don't want this man to come in and do this. You know this is hand-rolled pan pie you're talking about. You want to just put away hand-rolled pan pie? I think everything should be put away at some point. Well, you don't think he wants to see us? Nope. I think this is a man from Europe. They do things differently. He doesn't. He's in Europe. I mean, that's why we're having this premium upscale. Let's go, guys. Let's get our acts together. But just put it so we can have it when he's gone. Put it on the ground. I'm going to eat it when I go to the bathroom. We got M&M's in the bathroom. I don't know why. Let's deal with that. They're in a bag that we had to hide. Look who it is. Oh. Hey, whoa. Just walking right in. Just walking in. Very cool. Barry Keoghan. What's happening? You got it right. Is it Keoghan? Is it Keoghan? That's what I thought. Keoghan. Is that what you're all saying? Keoghan? Keoghan. We're going over. I think he said Keoghan or something. They're lovely homes, by the way. No, first off, Barry Keoghan. It's a lovely home. Thank you so much. I love this place. You know that. You like it? You know that? You know you should taste Kerrygold butter. What? Oh, yeah. From Ireland. Yeah. I love that one. I'm Irish. Wait. Check it. He just said. This, right? He just said. Butter. Oh, you have it? Is this for your family? Oh, yeah. My uncle made this. He did. Pure Irish butter. First of all, is that your real dick? Are we doing this or just slapping it? Ow! I don't even want to see it. Oh, my God. Is this real? Banshees of Ed Sheeran. In insurance. Good. Let's get in the ring with, like, Jake Paul, right? Wow. Guys, get on this. Drop the link here. Is that your best soft dick? That's a great question. That's what I want to know. You're so cool. Like, I didn't, like, you're, like, so, you're, like, a, like, a, like, a cool, like, you're, like, the popular guy in college. I think it's, like, the hat. It's the backwards. The only reason you're saying that is because he's wearing a backwards hat. But it doesn't feel like. No, you're fun and, like, and cool. Oh, thanks. I needed that. Hey, what's happening? I've been reading a lot of comics. What happened? Look at your arm. Wow, you do. That's just a rash. What? You actually, you actually feel like the comments are bringing you down right now in your life? Yeah. Really? Yeah. I think, you know, again, I'm not on Instagram or Twitter or any of that. But you feel it. But I still, I still go on and have a little. Where are you reading them? You know, I'll go on, on my. The public, the public. Not his. Do you Google your name? No, I'll go on my brother's account or, like, you know, I can access to that one. Oh, no. You're, like, are you sometimes, like, you're hanging out and you're, like, give me your phone. Honestly, no, but I do go on and have a look and because, you know, I'm curious, but. Don't do it. There is a lot of hatred towards. Negativity. Me for just looking like this. Here, you know what I mean? It's so terrible. It's so terrible. What do you mean looking like this? I mean, just looking like this. Like, just attacking my appearance. You're hot, dude. Do you know what I mean? But, like, it's just, it's crazy. It's just crazy. It's so. I want to, I want to tell you something, though. Yeah. Like, because. Man to man. I'm a guy who gets. Couldn't be. No, I've seen our faces together. Couldn't be talking about more. On post. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 20 million fucking views. But in, like, how ugly are they? Oh, man, that sucks. Oh, sick. Honestly. Dude, you're hot. You're much hotter than me, so. He is hotter than you, but you're both hot. Oh, my God. So, you're, like, you're, like, you're, like, a movie star. Like, you, I mean, you are a movie star. Yeah. But I have never even seen a bad thing about you. Maybe, maybe, like, a few of my friends, like, who are, like, my friends, make me feel like they're making fun of me. They've, like, sent, like, I saw, there's this, like, one really fun, I find it very funny, where it's, like, me, you, and, like, Travis Kelsey, and then, like, the guy who Ariana dates, and it's, like, which one of these, like, ugly bastards would you want to date? And then they're, like, their girlfriends. I don't mind that. But, like, yeah, yeah. I don't mind that. I'm, like. These things sometimes, like, in our heads seem, like, so fucking huge. And it's, like, one, and I'm, and, and, and you know what? It is huge. Yeah. It's huge. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm sure. I'm sure it's huge. If you're, like, you feel sad. But, like, I always tell people, because I'm not a comments guy, and when I do, when, like, they'll tell me, because they know I have, like, the thickest skin. Like, literally, we came across a thing yesterday. Oh, yeah. She was sitting right next to me. We were sitting outside, and I was just, like, scrolling on TikTok, and all of a sudden, I got served. What did it say? It said, like, Benny Blanco gets pissed in the mouth and loves it. Or something. Benny Blanco loves the taste of human urine. Yeah. And they'll be, like. And then he was, like. I didn't say that. And then he opens up the clip. It's him being, like, yeah, like, my friend pissed in my mouth one time. No, no. And then he's, like, that's real. That's real. With the comments about the feet I've seen online. Oh, yeah. Look what someone made. Look what someone made of me. Oh, wow. Wow. Of my foot with dirt on it. Can I get one of those? Yeah, you can. You know, there's a picture of me on the internet, and I'm like that, with dorks on my feet. Oh, yeah. See? I mean, that was, like, years ago. Of course. But I love it. But what I got. What I, sorry to interrupt, just because I will forget, I've got mad ADHD and. So do we. HD. Welcome to the ADHD hat. He said ADHD. Yeah, honestly. Don't, don't disrupt him. He's gone over thought. It's crazy. Now I've actually put. Yeah, I understand. Now I've forgot what I'm going to say. This is part of it. Happens to all of us. But, no, honestly, I have been, just on a serious note, you know, I feel in a safe space to say this, and, you know, but I have been avoiding stuff. I have been, like, you know, I came off Instagram. You know, on social profiles. I've stopped going to events. I've stopped, you know, just socializing. And, again, it's because, you know, there was a narrative out there that was never really sort of even spoken on. A narrative that's not true, and I never confirmed or said anything about it. And, you know, I just disappeared. I feel compelled to make sure I know the narrative we're even talking about that you're talking about. Is it something about cheating? Yeah, I cheated. Yeah. And they did, you know, and I don't want to ever bring anyone else into it. But, like, you know, unfortunately, you know, having a relationship in the public eye, it's, you know, we all know this, you know, from our own stories, but it gets put out there and it's, like, you. It's amplified. Yeah, amplified. Yeah. So I just never, like, again, there was, you know, if you see the narrative, you see the story, a girl made a video, and then a girl actually made the same video and went, sorry for making that up. Oh. You know, but no one seemed to latch onto that video. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know. It's unfortunate. Because she's seen the reaction, this girl. Yeah. And I didn't want to come forward and put that girl under it and go, hold on for a second, I don't know. Because, again, I don't know how she deals with it. Totally. So I'm aware of all of that. You know, I don't want to bring anyone else into it. But I would imagine it's one of those things where, like, if you just, like, kind of, like, brace for the impact and stay with it, it will, like, the internet will move on. Yeah. I feel like they do. I don't know. It doesn't. I'm going to say Selena. We're talking about somebody who's very in it. I've got to be real with you. Selena can't escape it. This thing, this shit doesn't. No. It doesn't. It's wild. It's not worse. Oh, two years ago? It's not going to, look, at the end of the day, I feel like you're aware of the facts at hand. And if you know what the facts at hand are in your heart, for me, like, when I see a comment that feels like they're saying something that I just patently disagree with, I don't take it seriously because I'm like, well, that person has no basis because they're just wrong and they don't know me. Or patently, I don't know. Blatantly. Blatantly? Yeah. Patently is not right, but it could be right. But it is what? Patently was patently. I don't think it's right. Like, you've patented the idea? Yeah. Something like that. I thought you meant blatantly. No, blatantly is wrong. Blatantly is right. But I'm just saying, for me, for me, look, I'm the same way, and I get a lot of positive comments, but I am numb to them. But if they're the right positive comments that really speak to, like, oh, you're appreciating me in the fullest way, I wouldn't be like. And that's lovely. That's the best. And I'm not asking for people to become my fan and like me because that's not normal either. But I'm asking for people to stop. And also stop jumping on this narrative and attacking me and dragging me down in any way you can involving my parents who are no longer with me and my parents, fine, whatever, but just absolutely disgusting, vile. Like, there's videos on TikTok that literally go, I hate him because for someone who's went through that, and I'm not saying this for pity card or pity me, why is it cool to hop on and beat somebody who's come from a lot? Yeah. You know? Kick somebody. Kick somebody when they're down. No, but like someone like myself or kids like myself, to survive and stuff like that. seen as a kid and stuff i've seen my mom you know lay on the ground after fucking injecting herself and shit that i have to fight with every day and do a lot of therapy and went through addiction myself and in in sobriety and to battle all of that to then want to drag that person yeah it's a terrible culture it's and it's sad because it takes away like somebody like you who's had a lot of like life experience and you can probably connect with a lot of people if you felt like you had that like a safer space to be yourself like publicly it's sad that yeah i mean i know this is i feel like i'm being naive for even phrasing it this way but don't even take it seriously they have no idea of the facts at hand so it totally discredits whatever they're saying i can't take anyone seriously who has a passionate opinion without having the facts at hand yeah so whenever i receive that information i'm like oh it's meaningless now if they're saying something that really i'm like fuck that's what i'm saying or if it's someone you know it's hard for people like selena will come to me and she'll be like i can't believe how well you can like like she's like oh i'll see things and i'll want to like write back in the comments about things and i have a very unique perspective and you know for me i became really big in in a certain field when i was like 17 18 years old and i i'd been doing it publicly since i was a kid and then i got to help all these other stars get their get get their thing going i didn't become famous until until 2020 so it's only been like six years for me yeah and it's like that's when you met me right i met him right nope i met you in 2014 all right what am i talking about 2014 yeah wow yeah and then i got famous and then i was like oh i don't like this it's a hard one because i never want to speak on behalf of other people and also never want to never want to you know mention other people are involved in yeah and even if it is those people and that was in a relationship where it's not my place thing or it's not their place to come forward and speak on my behalf yeah it's unfair to them yes they're also in a relationship yeah of course it's also both of us being yes out there for like you know so i'm very aware of that i have a question before you ask your question i would just like to say patently is an adverb meaning clearly obviously or plainly often used to emphasize that something is unmistakably true or evident you guys want to hang out outside for a good wait i have a i have a question yeah is this thing a happy story um it's it's a story what is what is that it's necrotizing fasciitis here's one for you type that in your your your big machine you're patently you're patently you're patently what is it called robert patten so this is a fleshing the uh bacteria what infection that i got and almost died how old are i filmed the movie banshees uh banshees have been assured and literally i got a three weeks beforehand and i got it because i went through psychosis and an event happened and i got hit with a bottle and something happened my arm but if you type in google doesn't even let you look at the images it's like you got hit by a person threw a bottle at you a bottle and it went to my blood system and whatever it's a very rare uh infection is that what happened here necrotizing it's a separate one but like what year was that when did this happen i want you to type this in when you see but this basically it eats your limbs and they have to remove it they can't write one more negative comment about you you got too much n e c t r i z i g i said i when is the z there you know it's by nectorizing fascia is f a it's got a note by now what you're what you're saying here you go all right look at the images right images oh i'm looking at the words it's blurry it doesn't even show you right is it blurry i'm getting shown images but they're absolutely disgusting i think i have my uh like adult mode on yeah oh it's it's completely disgusting what's this has to do so this is like oh my god oh wow it looks unreal so it basically these bubbles form and they have to remove whatever limb it goes on and if they don't remove it well you still have a limb i know they caught it so they brought over doctors from liverpool to catch it they caught it and then i filmed the movie three weeks later oh my god what happened to the other arm this was psychosis as well what what do you mean when you're saying psychosis for both psychosis event like from drugs you know did you used to do drugs yeah yeah okay i'm clean now i'm clean like two and a half years oh that's good for you but i had to almost like you know paper my my mom died at 42 of heroin my dad passed away but the curiosity of still wanting to do this for me of course it's absolutely like it took me three attempts of rehab and i was finally malibu at the point oh yeah yeah and there was a sudden switch and i was when i was 42 you know same age my mom i was like that's it i'm not doing it do you not do like do you not like drink do anything i don't do anything did you used to do like drink and i used to try to justify it by going maybe i'll be off to drink for a while but now i'm like i'd like to think i'm allergic to alcohol because my reaction is cocaine yeah oh really that reaction can make me like yeah i'm like i don't want to ever even uh yeah i i technically did die for a few seconds but now that's crazy did you have a like a moment of post-death vision and it feels like what'd you see i swear to you it was almost like a fucking painting it was um it was it happened in london and you know i went for a few seconds and there was this this sort of image the fields and it was the wind but there was this there's this girl walking away and she wouldn't look back and she had blonde hair but she was walking away and i kept calling her and she just kept walking i wanted to see who it was you know and it was almost like she was walking away to get me to follow and on this side was like council flats um what like council flats is like uh council flat flats uh like apartments yeah what's a council um like a city council flat oh you mean like like uh like uh public housing yeah yeah um like projects oh yeah and it's sort of where i grew up you know and it was black and white and this side was in color and on this side there was loads of lads stabbing me and trying to push me over and obviously was the doctors doing the work on me you know is what i was feeling but in this vision they were they were stabbing me and pushing me and i was holding on to them they were trying to push me over to this side and i swear i shit you not i was begging them that i could stay i was like please let me stay and they're like all right let him stay um and literally then yeah wow let's go outside and talk about something fun oh yeah oh alipop cream soda you know 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them but with canva it makes design easy for anyone does it generate with built-in ai that lets you remove generate and animate content and just to click start designing today at canva.com design now we respect you i'm gonna go look for some some more perrier for you oh this is that was a deep conversation i love deep conversation this is right this is right during the flight path there's a flight path do you fly yeah you're not scared of flying so you don't float i don't i don't know but you're going to i'm gonna fly wait you get to england on a boat yeah no way me and ed sheeran actually made an album on it one time yeah we made like one of it i think his biggest album ever i know i know quite well yeah yeah yeah he's a good good friend of mine when you said the thing earlier the movie you were in it sounded like you said like banshees of ed sheeran is that what you said that is it oh it's called banshees of that i heard i heard it i didn't want to interrupt you were saying something so serious i know i can't believe he's doing a movie called like bunches he almost lost my arm on punchy adventure yeah chuck i thought he was saying bunchies of ed sheeran orange flavored oh thanks man but i thought i really couldn't find another plan i thought you're gonna say i really like you i really like you too and i really i really like you this is our most serious episode ever no i like it no it's cool it's great this is cool i love any conversation about struggle and the mind no you know what i feel like uh it just feels safe to to chat like that and open in there and yeah we're open you're going through a lot there's some sort of construction going on that the noise might be too should we go inside okay let's just go sit on the couch i love how he talks man i would like to see you on the internet a little more i love your personality thanks man is your hair always this long yeah i had long hair growing up as a kid you know - You guys are kind of all half the hair. - Oh yeah. - Ringo. - Yeah, you're playing a Beatle. - Yeah, do you feel a lot of pressure to do the Beatles thing? - Eh. - Or are you like, fuck yeah. - No, I'm looking for the shit. - I'm looking for the shit. - Isn't it four movies? - Four movies, yeah. - Oh my god, four movies? - Do they come out a week after each other or something? - I think it's like two weeks after. - Who's directing this movie? - Sam Mendes. - Okay. - You learn how to play drums? Or you didn't? - Yeah, for this, yeah. But I boxed for like 15 years, so like, hand-like coordination sort of helped. - Are you a good fighter? - Yeah. - Probably better than you. - You guys wanna try? - Do you think you could beat up all three of us at once? - At once? - I'm gonna sit on the floor. I'd like to sit on the floor. - I thought you were about to do it, right? - Yeah, of course. - You look like you could be like, shifty. - Can you guys, I've never, can you guys, I've seen you fight your brother. Can you fight, Mochi? - Do it. - Can I fight? - I think I can fight better than everyone here except him. - Do you know, weirdly, like boxing though, you know, when I started boxing, and it was my granny who stuck me in, and this is where I found acting, you know, 'cause it was a street cast, and there was a note, it was like, for kids who never acted on. I rang the number and it said, - It said, kids who've never acted? - It didn't say that, I'd be kind of weird, but it said, - Hey, we're looking for kids who've never acted. - No, but it was like a casting call. - Open audition, like, street casting. - Yeah, yeah. - It was from, in and around the boxing club, but when I got into boxing, I stopped, you know, you didn't wanna fight, weirdly. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - You didn't get the appreciation for it, and it's. - Is your granny still living? - She is. - Is she just like, losing it for like, how, like you're like the ultimate success story. - I know, but she's no, no like kind of, she raised 10 kids. - Oh, wow. - Wow. - And there's projects, as you call it. - Yeah. - And there's like, two bedroom, and. - When you got on, did you like, like set her up in a cool house? - I did. - Yeah. - No, no, no, she's still there. - No, she's not. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, she won't move. - Aw. - She won't? - Yeah, no, she's. - It took me, I understand, it took me a while to get my mom to move. Like, at first, she would only, my mom would only let me get, buy her things for the house. Like, she was like, would you please buy me a dishwasher? - Yeah, right. - And I like, yes. - A washing machine. - Yeah, washing machine, that was the second one. - I can get you out. - Yeah, she wanted a dishwasher, a washing machine, and then I asked my mom, I said, mom, I'll buy, this was, you know, 15 years ago, I said, let me buy you your dream car. - Yeah. - And like, my mom's dream car was like. - A Toyota Corolla. - No. - The lowest-end Mercedes, like a, like a C200, like, and she still has it to this day. - Oh, I love that. - And she's so appreciative, she's very appreciative. - Yeah, it's the meaning and the. - Yeah, she's so, and I'll like. - How do you say appreciative, Dev? - Appreciative. - Appreciative. - Appreciative, yeah. - I'm from, I'm. - Like, research. - No, yeah, I did. - It's like you're a virgin, it's like a person I've ever heard you have an accent. - Yeah, I'm from Virginia, yeah. - Say it again. - I think you're supposed to say appreciative. - It's like the only word I've ever heard you say. - No, I say a few things interesting. - Appreciative. - Yeah, I say a few things really. - Appreciative, appreciative. - Well, now that we're on a good tone, I'd love to ask you something. Okay, and it's just, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's. - It's inappropriate. - And I have nothing to do with it. - It could be. - Go on. - It could be really inappropriate, but I have a few questions about the thing, because, you know, you're ass naked in a movie, okay? - Now you know what he's talking about. - And I got some questions. - Yeah. - And I wanna know, like, first of all, is that your real dick? - Yeah. - Oh, it is, okay. - Good dick. - Yeah. - Good dick. - Yeah, good dick. - Good dick. - Yeah, pal. - I haven't seen something. - Oh, hey. - Want me to pull it up? - No, no. - Go watch it. - No, that, that was my, I actually spoke about it yesterday. That was, that scene was, it started like, the dance scene, it started with clothes, you know, in the script, and I just wanted to kind of, Anne Emerald wanted to make it more sort of like ownership. You know, when you dance around your place and you get out of the shower, like, you listen to the music and you're naked, and we all do it, and you do it in a place that's yours, you know what I'm saying? - Yeah. - You do it. - So you were just like, yeah. - You weren't nervous? - No, because I think, even which is true in there, randomly, and I think this is the thing where, you know. - It did make the movie. - Yeah. - It's like the most important, everyone, it's like the most viral thing I remember when it came out. - It is, but it's like, I think this is the thing where even French cinema and like, just European cinema that-- - It is normalized. - Yeah, it's normalized, you know. - Yeah, of course. - Like, sex scenes and stuff like that. - But there's not a lot of people on set when you're doing it, right? - Well, that's the thing, like, I mean, the bed was an 800-year-old bed that some king owned it, and, you know, they were like, you know, you can't lay on this bed, but I was like, well, I have to step into frame, so they let me lay on the bed with a hot water bottle, you know, to kind of keep, like-- - So you're warm? - The blood flowing to your penis. - The blood flowing, yeah. - I have to ask, I need, okay, finish. - Wait, so it makes your dick as big as it could be? - No, no, no, not that, 'cause that's, you can't do that, but like, to, you know, so you don't go, you know. - Oh, to be as small as you could be. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Here's, oh, okay, here's what I need. - Yeah, 'cause I was gonna say, I thought cold air makes your dick-- - No, this is hot water. - Yeah, but he's saying without-- - It was not too hot because it was like, you know, scald you, but also, I'm on an 800-year-old bed, like, and I'm like, yeah, ready, and then I step into frame. - Okay, so I need to know, so like, are you, I don't even know how to ask. - I know what you wanna ask. - I just wanna say, are you trying to get a little bit of blood flowing to your dick and thinking about something that turns you on to have, like, the ideal soft, but kind of, like, quarter-boner dick? - I know what you mean. - That's a great question. That's what I wanna know. - You wanna know, I think he was pleased with the outcome. - Were you pleased with the outcome? - You were pleased with the outcome. - You're like, it could've been better. - There could've been better. - Could've been better. - There could've been that perfect level of blood where she's hearing it. - Could've been. - Could've been. - So, 'cause I don't have a dick. - Yeah, wanna know about his hanging dick? - No, I'm just curious, so you don't want it to be, you have to, like, straddle the line of-- - Well, you don't want it to be too big, 'cause then you're starting to, you're mad. - You can't have an erection on screen. It's just like, and you don't want that, you know? - But if you're thinking that you can't have one, don't you just get one because you're thinking you can't have it? - Sometimes. - No, but you're also, like, nervous and, like, really, like, not embarrassed, but, like, there's a whole crew, and it's also awkward for them. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Everyone thinks it's just awkward. It's awkward for everyone. - Everyone, yeah. - 'Cause everyone's sort of, like, okay, and then cut, and, like, you know, but as you're dancing in the scene and doing everything, it's moving. - It's a powerful scene, but it's also getting cold as I go along those corridors, and, like-- - I gotta rewatch it. Does your penis change size throughout the time? - Is the continuity good? - No, man, it's continuity. - And how many times did you have to do that? - 12 times. - Oh, my. - 12 times, yeah. - 'Cause wasn't it, like, was it one shot or no, no? - One shot. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Now, was, like, Jacob Allure, was he like, "Oh, my God, I'm so happy. "I didn't have to do that scene." - No, Jacob was, where was he at that time? - He was like, "No, my cock's huge." - Is that? - What? - What? - Jacob? - Oh, that's great. I know that. - Dave? - Oh, Dave? - Yeah, yeah. - Oh, yeah, that's it. - I love that. - You thought it was you or Jacob? - I thought it was Ringo. - Oh, no. - Oh! - No, it's not, but I see what you're saying. Wait, so was he like, "Whoa, man, like, good on ya." - He was like, "Fair play." You know. - "Good on ya." - Fair play, fair play. - Yeah. - But, like, you know, it just added to it. Again, you know, I wouldn't do something like that if it was just random. - Yeah, if there was no reason. - Yeah, and I think in European cinema, especially French cinema, and you see these things, and it's like, you know, it's not glamorized sex scenes. It's not, like, set up perfectly. It's messy, and it's, like, it is how it is, you know? - When I saw it, I was like, "Oh, like, this made this." Knowing that it would've been clothed, it does make it, like, it was funny, I was talking about, like, my friend has a TV show, and I said, "The most." The most believable part was where she was just, like, changing and talking at the same time as she was changing, because it's, like-- - It's real. - Yeah, it's real. Like, it's one thing, like, yeah, I hate when you watch movies, and there's, like, a sex scene, like, every five seconds. - There's a sex scene with Lady Gaga. - Can you tell if it's a prost-- Like, do a lot of men do fake dicks? - What's his name? My friend did a fake dick. - Yeah. - Oh. - Did they ask you, did you do a fake dick? - They said, "You want a fake dick?" And you were like, "Nah, I'm cool." - Yeah, so I'm good to do it like this, if that's good. But, like, you know. - Damn right, man. Damn right. - I'm even curious. We have, like, handshakes. - Yeah, yeah. - We have good handshakes. - Yeah, we got good handshakes. - Are you getting a fake dick? Is it, like, prosthetics? - Yeah, yeah, there's-- - Are you sitting in a chair and they're, like-- - We can work on that. - Yeah, there's prosthetics. - That's good. - Hey, we can work on that. - It's, like, good. - Yeah, they're, like, putting-- I feel like getting a prosthetic. - Oh, that was nice. - Wait, are we doing this, or just slapping? - See who's the best chemistry wit. - Yeah. - We already did. - What? - Like, Mark, like-- Ow! - We am-- - Mark Wahlberg had a fake dick in Boogie Nights. - I had to, for the Met Gala episode in my TV show, I wanted, because I was hiding in the bathroom the whole episode to be in the selfie. - As you do in the Met. - And then I wanted the joke to be, like, someone walked in and, like, they start peeing, but I see through, like, the little thing, like, that they have, like, the biggest dick of all time, and I didn't know who I was gonna get. So then, Machine Gun Kelly - You really wanted-- - came in, and I was like, "Hey, I'm gonna have the dick." And he was the guy who was gonna have the dick, and he was so, like, he was like, "This is so funny," and he loved it. The dick's so big, but it's so hyper-real. - Yeah. - Like, I gave so many notes-- - Perspiring. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. I gave so many notes about, like, too thick, too, like, all these-- - Veiny, more veiny. - Yeah. - He was, I've never seen a situation, like, his team was like, "You have to leave right now." He was, like, playing, like, headlining a festival that required him to get on a flight at, like, X time, or he would not be able to do it. He, this man pushed the boundaries of, like, he literally stayed for, like, 14 more minutes than was their absolute drop. They're like, "You're not gonna make it." Like, there's no way-- - Just so he could hold the dick. - Just so he could hold the dick, and then the whole thing ended up getting cut from the episode. - Oh, no! - Let's put it, enter it right here. - Yeah. - Can you do that? - I'd have to-- - Can I, like, do it like that? - Yeah, Chuck, I'd love to enter it right into this episode. - Like this, like this, look at it, like that. - Chuck, Chuck, I'd love to enter it right into it. - I feel like you. - Do you think-- - You don't know about FanDuel Predicts, do you? - Mm-mm. - Well, it's, you should get acquainted, because it's playoff time, basketball playoffs, so. - Yeah. - Okay, see, like, let's ride 'em. - Ride 'em. - Let's predict the outcome, and I think-- - What about the Sixers? - Yeah, I mean, yes. - How could you not say them first? - Well, I'm rooting for them, but they're unpredictable. 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Find furniture, decor, and essentials that fit your unique style and budget. Head to wayfair.com right now to shop all things home. That's W-A-Y-F-A-I-R.com, Wayfair. Every style, every home. - I really don't care what anyone thinks when I'm making stuff. Like, I care what like a very select, it's like the smallest group of people. - Who are those people? - Dave's one of those people. - I want to become one of them. - Yeah, what about me? You spend a lot of time with me, I'm not one. - I don't know if I play, I don't know if I, like-- - I think you would. - I would, I would for sure. Definitely, definitely if it was like anything that had to do with like, like on screen. Like, I think your sensibilities are so good. I don't know if I would go to you for the music stuff, but I think I would go to you. No, I'm just saying. - I agree. - I'm saying, but I would go to you. I think you have incredible, like, anything that's like-- - Film TV, film TV. - Yeah, film TV. - I think I've got good musical instincts. - You have good instincts, I don't know about that. - I think you have good comedic instincts, too. - I think you're right on what you're saying, though, about this select few people. - Yeah. - It's weird. - Yeah, and I just don't-- - Do you watch all the, you watch all your films? - Can I have a sip of my own drink that you keep holding? - I'll watch once, yeah. - You watch them once? - At the premiere, yeah. - And then you never watch it again? - I don't. - Aren't you so, I can't imagine, 'cause usually I write what I'm in. I couldn't imagine the feeling of being a star in a movie, going to this thing and seeing it for the first time with everyone else, not knowing how you even feel about it. - Again, it's like, you know, I'm with you on this, you know, and we all relate to this. I think once you do it, and once, for me, it's like always telling the truth. The closest I can get to telling the truth on screen, whether, you know, 'cause for a lot of my parts, I recall a lot of stories. A lot of stuff, it's exhausting, and I'll go back to places and bring it forward, and I use music to get me to a state of emotion and stay in it, and if the story is a bit far-fetched or a scene from my own truth, I'll try and match it somehow and use my imagination. But if I can just tell the truth to the closest to it, then I'm happy. I'm not looking for anything else, really. Like, I'm not looking at, I'm just looking at, you know when you're telling the truth in the eyes, and that's all I'm looking for. - Do you ever do a take, you do like a couple takes, and you're like, man, I really hope they don't use that one take, and then you see in the premiere they use the one take, or no? - Yeah. - You do? - Yeah, the thing that-- - That happens? - That does happen, yeah. - But you can't ever be like, after you shoot it, like, hey man, just so you know, don't use that one take. Or hey girl. - Yeah. - I'd be like, I have to use the best take. - I'm so, I'm so controlling of the edit. That's in everything I do. I'm so, like I sit-- - I know, but it'd be so nice to not be in control and know that you're in the hands of the directors that you work with. - Yeah. - You know that everything you do, pretty much, is gonna come out looking some level-- - And it's having a good relationship with them, and being like, look, listen, I think I can get deeper with this one, you know? And I know when I know it, and I know when I can, I know when I'm, I have to put it on, and I hate that, and I know when I'm telling the truth, 'cause my tone and pitch changes, or you know, people want you to chat to people like this, you know, on screen. I'm like, don't do that. I'd chat like this, I'd chat like that, and it's like, that's true, so when I'm forced to do something like that, I'm like, I can't find the truth in that, you know? - But you, oh, sorry. - No, you go. - You play, like, such different types of, like, we always talk about it, like, Dave's like, he could, he could, there's like only so many types of guys he could, he can't play a guy, like, aren't you in, like, Peaky Blinders and stuff? - Yeah, yeah. - You're like a man, aren't you like a guy-- - Show out the Peaky Blinders, what's up? - But like, can't, you're like playing guys, and like, sometimes you're playing, like, aren't you like playing the Joker, too? - Yeah, well, here's the thing, and this is about range. - I played the Joker, too. - This is range, you know, like-- - Yeah, you got range. - With Banshees of Ed Sheeran. - Yeah. - You know? - Banshees of Ed Sheeran. - But like, I play, like, a character so far from what I've played. - Yeah, yeah. - I play an innocent, like, you know, such a lovely kid. - Yeah. - And that's the one I was nominated for an Oscar for, and that was to show vulnerability and show such a soft side. And then I go and play villains and whatever, but like, I can play both, and-- - I love Killing of the Sacred Deer. - Yeah. - Oh, yeah. - Yeah, man. - I played some-- - You know, he played the Joker, too. - Did you? - I made a music video in Lithuania, like, two years ago. - Did you? - Yeah, and it's true. I basically think I can act really well as myself. - You'd be a great Joker. - Do you want me to show you? Can I show you my performance? - I want to see it, yeah. - I thought you did great. - Is that a TV? - Yeah. - No, Chuck, I'd like you to do it in person. - No, are you kidding? - Or show the, like-- - How do I even have my hair and makeup on? - I knew that was a TV, 'cause I've seen-- - Oh, I'm so proud of this. - I actually love this music video. It's the production value, it's incredible. - In Lithuania, you show that? - I'm not showing the whole music video. - No, I'm just gonna show-- - Your entry, your thing. - So you guys keep talking. - You two. - No, don't. I think you've gotta be in the convo. - I'm here, I'm right here. - In the convo. - Wait, I was gonna ask you about-- - Do it. - When you're playing a different, well, but I just feel like it's gonna get interrupted instantly by you playing this. - Not at all, I'm far away. I have to do a whole mode issue. - Oh, I was gonna say, when you said that you, like, you always try to find truth in the characters. Do you always try to find, like, a little bit, like, you're playing a role, obviously it's not you, but you try to, like, find a little bit of yourself. - Definitely, always. - But does that scare you, if you're gonna, like, play the Joker? - Always, because, like, you have to get, you have to get to a vulnerable state. And, you know, we constantly walk around putting ourself on guard and, like, putting this image on for people and whether we like it or not. But I always try and get to a really vulnerable state and an honest state, which is scary because we don't do that day-to-day. - Yeah, you're, like, tapping into-- - But I'm doing it for, yeah, but I'm doing it for my art. - But when you are done filming, can you turn off at night? Like, if you're gonna, like, when you do the Joker and it's, like, darker, are you gonna be, do you, like, do you have any anxiety about, like-- - Yeah, you can never turn off. I think it's about coping, you know? It's like opening the jar. Again, you don't do it for every scene, like picking up a glass, but you'll do it for those scenes that require, like, you know, the emotion. - Yeah. - Wow. - Hi. - Love that. - You want to be an artist, yes? - I am an artist. I'm very talented. - Love this. - Put it in ten higher styles to fuck all the women while they still can't have it. - I love the framing. - Yeah. - Thank you. It's like Kubrick. - It's such a good video. - He clearly did not absorb the material. i just want to take things in a bit more unconventional direction It's got a Charlie Chapman sort of. The perfect 10 seconds aren't real. But the realest 10 seconds. aren't perfect. Love that. Fucking love that. It's class, man. - I love that. - Thank you. - It's so good. I haven't seen it. - It's so good, man. - I'm really proud of it. - Honestly. - I love that. - I haven't seen it since you did it. I loved it. Thank you. So, yeah. I like when Dave does the serious, like, humans. Like, super, like, emotional humans. I could only do two things. Me act like I am now. In any situation. Which is the hardest. I'm lucky to feel like it's the easiest. But then maybe I can do, like, that. And then I can't do anything else, I don't think. Boy. I don't know. Maybe I'm just limiting myself unnecessarily. Because you feel like you can only act like. If they were like, hey, you've got to be in, like, Dunkirk. And you're like from London and you're in like a different time. I just don't – I guess I could work my – Yeah, but he's like – you're like a special case. You're like a Daniel Day-Lewitt. Like most people – like Seth Rogen is playing himself in different iterations. And like it's like – yeah, like it's like you're like a real – and Seth is a real deal actor. No, I know what you're saying. And so are you. But you're like a thing – it's like a different thing. You can, like, transform into another human being. Thank you. That means Daniel Day-Lewis is my favorite. Yeah, my fucking favorite. Like, Christian Bale can be, like, a different man. Keep talking, Benny. Keep talking. Would you ever do one of those things where you lost, like, a million pounds? Yeah. I mean, I've lost so much weight on this movie, you know, not to put it in this movie, but just because. How much? I mean, I was, like, 65, 66 kilos. Are you out of your mind? I can see. - I'm going to do it. What's 65 kilos in the. Fuck. What's 66 kilos in pounds? 145 pounds. And now what are you now? Now I'm like 58, 59. What's 58 kilos in pounds? Just do the. Oh, yeah, just do the math. What are you talking about? You're 127 pounds right now? but it's because of my adhd meds as well like you know but did you did they tell you to lose weight for it no no one ever tells you to lose weight and i don't need to lose it for like ringo either you know it's it's it's just more of the anxiety no the more of the the to get into character yeah and the stamina of working was he skinny like that no it's just that i think you know movies usually last six seven weeks or two three months and by the time you i always lose towards the end, but by that time, I'm gone. You're withering away due to the production. You're not making a choice. Are you actively being like, I eat so much chocolate and so much. Are you a healthy. I'm healthy, yeah. You're healthy? Yeah. What did you eat yesterday? Oh, wait, she has a question. I had sea bass from Royce. Wait. I was going to ask you about your ADHD meds. Yeah. Do you take. What? I take. I've been on them since I was 13. You take them too. But do you take them when you act? I take them every day. I'm on like 100 milligrams of like. What do you take? Elvance. Oh, a Vyvanse? That's what you call a Vyvanse, yeah. Yeah. Well, no, I call it. I've been on Concerted. Oh, yeah, I used to take Concerted. Yeah, I was on that. I feel like it's harder for boys to take it. Like, when boys get on the medication, like young boys, they don't like it because it represses your personality. That's it. It made me lose sense of self. Did it? Yeah. I didn't. My mom even agreed when she. I went to like. I was doing a concert and I was like, and I couldn't, I couldn't. But you can take all different kinds. Yeah. Like, they can find the right one. I just didn't. Eventually, I grew to. And some people, it works great for them. For me, I was so scatty. Yeah, me too. I've been on it like six years now, longer probably, and, you know, it's a long release, slow release show today. I take it every. Like, when I wasn't taking it, I was like, you know, and then I'd be impulsive and, you know, and now I'm like, I can focus on what I'm doing and I don't feel it's kind of affected me. But anyway. It suppresses your appetite, so I have to eat a lot in the morning. So yesterday, you only had sea bass? No, I had sea bass. Tell me, what did you wake up? What time did you wake up? I wake up at 5 a.m. Every day, no matter what? Yeah, yeah, I'm run. Okay, so. I do like 4K, 5K. Okay, so you woke up at 5 a.m.? No, not yesterday. Because I'm in the States, I woke up at like 7 and went boxing. You have to do physical stuff every day. Literally, I don't know what happened after. So you box at 7. He went and ate a sea bass. And are you like really like going in? Who are you boxing with? Boxing in Fortune's gym. Okay. Down in Melrose, but like. Is that like a public gym? Yeah, no, you have to be a member. Yeah. I go there every time, but I'm in a boxing club at home in London. Okay, so you box? Do you box random men there? No. You just train? Yeah. What if someone hits you in the face, though? I mean, but they can't because. It's illegal? Oh, you're good. He's good, he's elusive. But otherwise, you can't just get knacked in the face? No, you've got a milk cart, you've got a computer. It's called boxing, it's like a sport. Yeah, but I thought boxing, when I did it once, it was like you have to. It's like choreographed. Would you ever get in the ring. Oh, that's like training. with Mike Tyson right now? Okay, you get in the ring. You don't have Mike Tyson in it. No, you get in the ring with Mike Tyson for one round. You're guaranteed to win an Oscar, but you have the feeling you get to do your best role and you would have known that you were going to get it and you know you're getting the opportunity of a lifetime, but you have to go in for one round and there is a chance you could die. Yeah. But it's not like a high chance. Would you do it right now? Would I go in? Uh, nah. You wouldn't? Nah. Even at his age right now? I want to earn that. No, no, you're earning it. You're earning it. You have the sense of earning it, but it just guarantees that it happens in your life. Well, first off, would you be just absolutely terrified to get in the ring with Mike Tyson for one round? Yeah. Definitely. Yeah, definitely. I wouldn't get in with it, allegedly. Would you get in the. You'd get in the ring with like Jake Paul, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, you would. Which this is going to be lined up for. I don't know. I don't know. Jake Paul's huge, though. Yeah, he's huge. He's 127 pounds. Weight isn't a real thing. Weight matches just get in. So, okay, so you woke up, you boxed. Boxed, yeah. What did you do after you boxed? I done some press, done some like radio interviews. Did you eat yet? Did I eat? That's all. I don't eat in the morning. Usually I. Why? I mean, yes, I had M&M's. Do you want some? I just pulled some out of the bathroom. Those are mint. Mint ones? We have mint ones. No, we don't. We do? Mint M&M's? They're not M&M's. They're shaped like M&M's. No, we have plain M&M's. They're delicious, but they're off-brand. My eating is good, though. I think it's good. Yeah, but the ADHD medication does suppress your appetite. So like, you know, especially when you're working as well, you're like so focused and then by the time like, you know, dinner comes, it's like I end up having like sea bass or like a dairy milk. Dairy milk? Dairy milk or sea bass is their only option. What's a dairy milk? You mean just a glass of milk? You like miso sea bass? What's. I've not tasted it. Oh, my God. Like, I make it all the time. Yeah? Yeah, it's like Japanese. No. Have you had miso cod? No. Miso cod? No. Miso horn? Sticky cod? No, like, it's like a. Do you cook at all or no? I'm so bad at cooking. Wait, can we just talk about dairy milk? Would you just say dairy? Dairy milk, yeah. It's just milk, right? Yeah, yeah. No, dairy milk is like chocolate. Dairy milk, the UK chocolate. I got such a sweet tooth. It's so good. You know, dairy milk is crunchy. Crunchy, I think, is my favorite one. Crunchy, dairy milk, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you always have a TV in your trailer? I do, but I don't watch it. What do you do for fun? Or you don't have fun? That's a good question. What do I do for fun? I like to box, you know, I like to box, and I moved outside of London into Henley. Gorgeous place, but. All because of the online stuff? Yeah, yeah. It's just, it's going to go away. No, it's not going to go away. It's not. I'm not lying to you. It's going to be a part of a thing, but you will do more things that will push it to the side. It's not going to affect your work, like today. No, I have to address it. I have never been served one thing, and I'm on, like, a lot. Yeah, I didn't even know. Yeah, I didn't know. Oh, you're looking for yourself on the internet. Yeah. And also, like, the funny thing is, yeah, like, my, like, explore page, like, I never get one thing of myself. Yeah, yeah. I get so much stuff of you. She said she gets so much. Yeah, and I, yeah, I don't get, like, mine's, like, food and architecture. Yeah, if you're looking for it. Yeah, yeah, I don't look. I'm not looking for Benny. He just always pops up. Chuck, do you like summer camp? Yeah, favorite part of life? It was one of my favorites. Favorite times in my entire life. And I just reconnected with a few of our friends that I hadn't connected with, meeting up and renting a home on Airbnb and just, like, doing a whole Color Wars thing and having, like, the best time. Airbnb is something that I haven't really spoken about, how Airbnb connected us early on in our relationship. Oh, yeah. It did? Yeah. If you hadn't booked that home on Airbnb's platform that day, you wouldn't have given me that ride home. We wouldn't have connected maybe at the length. I think we would have connected anyways, but. No, it was a gift. It was a gift. Airbnb connected us because I got, to give you the ride home, and I got to spend extra time with you, and I got to know you. We respect you. We love you, Airbnb. We love you, Airbnb, and we love you. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp, which is. Great. I texted my therapist today. I just thought to myself, why am I trying to figure it all out? It's good to have help. And by the way, you can tell me anything, what it's probably stuff we've already talked about. You already know about all of it, but I think she's really great at helping me talk through it. And also, it's better probably to, like, outsource some of it so you don't have to take that burden. Well, I'm happy to. So sign up and get 10% off at BetterHelp.com. That's BetterHelp, H-E-L-P.com. I actually feel like you are a really good person. To go to therapy? Yeah. Why don't I get on BetterHelp and check it out? Let's work together to improve. And I love you. I love you too, Mushy. At the same time, it's like, you still want to. What's that? Like, you know. M&M's. They're not M&M's. No, I think they might be. I found them in the bathroom. Oh, yeah. Huh? In the bedroom. Let me see. I don't want to eat food found in the bathroom. Let me see. Let me see it. They're in a bag. Let me see it. Oh, they are in a bag. Oh, those actually are in a bag. Those aren't my favorite food. No. I like the peanut. Can you get me the bowl? I like them. I'm interested. I like peanut M&M's. No, me too. The chocolate in the UK is so much better than the chocolate in America. It's crazy. It's the milk, isn't it? Yeah. The chocolate is unbelievable. But you guys have terrible sour candy. I love Cadbury X. No, we're not as good as you. Yeah, you're sour candy. That's good. You know what I recently heard on the news? What? You know Reese's Cups? I love it. Well, have you noticed that the inside of it tastes different? No. A bit like fish, right? Yeah, they've changed. Fish? I've tasted it. No. The formula. Honestly, they taste a bit like fish. I had one of these at night. They've changed the stuff inside, and the son of the guy or the grandson of the guy who invented Reese's came out and said to, is it Hershey's? Whatever the company is, they were like- How dare you? Yeah, they were like, go back to the old ingredients. Hershey and Reese's? Hershey Park. Could be. Old friends. Reese's, I love. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely love it. Yeah, Reese's, I love. Are you serious? I used to melt Bounty on a plate. Oh, yeah. No, Bounty chocolate in the microwave. Yeah, I do. Here, it's like fabric softener. Yeah, yeah. Bounty. I used to melt it in the microwave and just like- Yeah, the English candies. I always, when I go there, I bring so many back. See, I think use a candy, like use to it. Use to it well. Use to junk food, like- Yeah, we do- Over the top. Yeah. Yeah, but you guys have- We don't even have the same ingredients. Your crisps are great, too. Oh, yeah. Your crisps, you have like the best crisps. Yeah, we've good- Did you have a phase in your career where you were like a struggling worker? A struggling actor? Or like, I don't know. Did you have like a long chunk before you had a big moment? Or did you have a big moment early? I don't know the- Yeah, sort of a moment where I was going from just going from stuff to stuff. You know, I didn't ever really have a moment of- Only until I chose to have the moment of not working. You know, from choosing and picking. Yeah, so you've always, yeah. What was your first role? Big one? Yeah, big one. It would be a movie called 71. And then Dunkirk. Oh, you were in Dunkirk. Oh, yeah. I said Dunkirk. Oh, I thought you were just saying that. No, I didn't just- Yeah, I was in Dunkirk. I wasn't saying it because I didn't know you were in it. Oh, I was like, that's nice. Wow. I thought Dunkirk was a great movie. Yeah, it was mad. You were great in it. Can I be honest about Dunkirk? But I haven't seen it in a while. Yeah, tell us your honest- I know it's my fault. I had trouble understanding it. Yeah, because the time- You mean the- I just had trouble understanding like the plot. Like the- Like the historical moment of Dunkirk? Who was who and what people- Like I just didn't quite- I couldn't- And I like movies that don't spell out like this is the plot. So like I- It was Christopher Nolan, right? Christopher Nolan, that's it. The best director ever. I just like couldn't- And maybe- Sue me if you want, but maybe I have trouble sometimes with accents. Sometimes I really- really have trouble hearing yeah and then i and then i feel like because in that movie am i right that everybody was uniformed wearing kind of similar clothing yeah yeah maybe it was hard for me to like they were um you know what the movie's about war i know it's about war there were soldiers in the war yeah but i didn't and i don't know the history of it so i don't know the facts like i'm not a good history guy so i kind of need to know nothing about history so i just couldn't say i'm guilty of that as well and i wanted to stay naive to it all because my character was and i was like i don't want to know a whole lot i don't know anything about you learned a lot did you learn a lot shooting it i did i learned a lot but i also didn't want to be well i'm not one of those you know actors who want to surround myself with all of that information i've never finished school i was kicked out of school so i don't have that background of academic you know so i'm not going to pretend to go and know all about the war and yeah and everything else and it sort of lends itself to me as well but i chose on that one to really stay naive to it because the character was really naive to it the crazy thing is i respect you so much more now because you're nothing like any of the people you ever play like most of the time you meet an actor a lot of the actors we meet they're carrying a novel they're like so like you know they're reading you're nothing like the guy you're like the most cool down to earth like i love that like you're you're one of us you're an adhd like i'm like you know sometimes we want to hang out with the people like after like i want to keep this thing going yeah like don't you want to hang out with the people after like i want to you want to keep it going yeah oh my god i'm going to be in the uk will you hang out with me or you're just pretending no take my number all of you yeah well not on air are you standing up to her yeah i think yeah i was getting in here get in here you got legends come here that was so fun oh wow okay did you have fun that's lovely yeah that was lovely honestly yeah i had so much fun i was nervous i was a little we were a little i was i wasn't nervous but i was i was like you was just let me it was so chill and talk and it was like it was really nice is this the most fun you've ever had on a podcast it's not a podcast in general on an interview in your life this is the most fun you've ever had in your life yeah i see i'll be pretending now yeah okay good this episode is brought to you by dominoes

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Barry Keoghan is a public figure whose name and appearance frequently draw online attention and criticism, sparking discussions about online negativity and personal vulnerability.
  2. The conversation highlights the emotional impact of internet-based attacks, especially on individuals with public identities, including themes of body image, trauma, and personal struggles.
  3. Barry discusses his experience with health challenges, including a near-fatal infection and psychological struggles, which influenced his work and personal resilience.
  4. He emphasizes authenticity in performance, stating he seeks emotional truth in roles, even when playing vastly different characters like the Joker or an innocent child.
  5. The dialogue touches on mental health, specifically ADHD, and how medication helps manage focus and impulsivity, enabling greater creative and personal stability.
  6. Barry shares a grounded connection to his roots, including his Irish heritage, personal relationships, and a preference for authentic, unfiltered experiences over manufactured fame.
  7. He critiques the culture of online attacks, particularly those targeting individuals’ appearance or past, calling it harmful and unjust, especially when it involves real-life trauma.
  8. The conversation concludes with a call for empathy, mental health support, and a safer, more compassionate digital space for public figures to express themselves.

Summary:

Barry Keoghan reflects on his journey as a public figure, navigating intense online scrutiny and personal challenges. He discusses how negative comments—especially those targeting his appearance or past—have deeply affected his mental well-being, revealing a broader cultural issue of online toxicity and the emotional toll on public personalities. He shares personal experiences with severe health issues, including a life-threatening infection and years of psychological struggle, which shaped his resilience and artistic approach.

Keoghan emphasizes authenticity in his performances, stating he strives to find truth in every role, whether vulnerable or villainous, and highlights how his inner emotional state influences his craft. He openly discusses his ADHD and its management through medication, which improves focus and stability, allowing him to engage more fully in both personal and professional life. The conversation also touches on cultural differences in food, mental health, and internet culture, with Keoghan expressing pride in his heritage and personal authenticity.

He critiques the tendency to attack public figures, especially on social media, calling it cruel and unkind, especially when it involves real trauma. Ultimately, the dialogue promotes empathy, emotional honesty, and the importance of mental health support, advocating for a more respectful and compassionate online environment for artists and everyday people alike.

FAQs

Barry Keoghan is the correct name. It is sometimes misspelled or misheard as 'Quaggan' or 'Kogan'.

He states that he has faced significant online negativity and hate, particularly regarding his appearance, and feels it's damaging and disrespectful, especially to those who have struggled in life.

He shares that he has been targeted by offensive and false comments, including ones about his feet and personal life, and feels these actions are harmful and unjust, especially given his personal challenges.

He emphasizes that he strives to find truth and vulnerability in his roles, believing it's essential for authenticity, even though it can be emotionally difficult and vulnerable.

Yes, he experienced a rare infection called necrotizing fasciitis after being hit by a bottle, which nearly led to the loss of his arm and required emergency medical treatment.

He plays a key role in the film 'Banshees of Ed Sheeran', which was inspired by his personal experience of a near-fatal infection and a psychological event that occurred during a period of psychosis.

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