The Bad Optics of LeBron's Helicopter Partnership | Hour 1

You are listening to The Down Laboratory Show. In partnership with The Draft King Sports Act. Now live in all 50 estates. (upbeat music) - This episode of The Down Laboratory Show is presented by Draft King Sports. Draft Kings, the crown is yours. - I don't want to say that very often in sports, the critic who questions the toughness of players usually isn't nearly as tough as the players, but during the break, Zaz had to get re-wrapped for the style on his eye because he said he had a headache and he said the wrapping was throwing off his depth perception. - Well, not the wrapping, like using just one eye, like I'm a cyclops. It's throwing off my depth perception, yes. - So he needed some massage during the break. He needed some aid, some soothing, some bombs. He was falling apart. Not unlike the Yankees last night, I enjoyed this headline from a playoff game and are you all ready for White Sox Raise as your AL championship series. - That's what it's gonna be? - I mean. - Oh yeah. Yankees bumble through really rough night in game two lost to the race. So you have Schlittler, you have your ace on the hill, and you make three first inning errors, Zaz, where you want to come out of the box to save your season and not fall down to O. And now the numbers on the Yankees that are gonna get New Yorkers howling here, they're damning. They have through two games, their batting average is 086. It's the worst batting average by an AL team in any two game span within a postseason. - It's absurd. - Wow, it's insane. - They just can't hit. And yesterday they've got more errors than they get hits. So you get a catcher's interference and the race just peck you to death. Like they weren't even hitting the ball out of the infield. They just peck you to death. I made this point the other day on pitch clock with Jeremy, okay? This is something that I just haven't seen happen a whole lot, okay? They've got a short stop walls who is exceptional defensively, but cannot hit. So they are a team that leads the sport in Bunts. All everybody's gone for home runs, they're not going for home runs. They are just trying to put the ball in play and make you make plays and the Yankees couldn't make any of them last night. But in the division clinching game that they had at Yankee Stadium, and it makes no sense that the race with their salary would be better than the Yankees. And they were better all season. They spent 128 games atop the ALEs. But you got one out, Chris, and a man on third. Walls can't hit, but he knows that Max Fried falls off to the side. Max Fried's a very good fielding pitcher, but he falls off to the side because he throws hard. And so with a man on third, even though everyone knows that Walls is a bunter, he just bunts with one out and they score the run. So if you're watching last night, that is a game that the Yankees, what the Yankees did in the first inning will never happen to the race in a full game of baseball because they just played correctly. They run the bases correctly. They put the ball in play correctly. They strike out less than anybody in the sport. They throw a bunch of strikes. They don't walk people at all. And so all they're doing is being more efficient than everyone in their sport with their money and with the way that they play the game. And they've just been the best team in the American League all year in a way that defies sort of understanding just because they continue to be smarter than everyone else. The thing that's amazing about the race is that for someone like Tony, who was like, "Oh, I liked baseball at one point in my life enough. I liked the way that they used to do it. It's gotten really kind of annoying 'cause they strike out so much. Just strike out our homer." The race already throwback and the irony in all of that is that they were ahead of the game on all of the shifts when it was Joe Madden. They were ahead on all of those things that now these teams have tried to catch up on and don't do well. And now the race have just decided we're gonna pitch, we're gonna field, we're gonna run the bases. - You mentioned the errors in that game. - I do not understand what Jess Chisholm was doing. - Oh my gosh. - It's a two throwing errors in that one. That throw the first and the double play of tip was a disaster. - Let's talk about that first inning for just a second. Because Chisholm didn't actually need to bear hand that ball, but there were three errors in that inning and Chisholm should have had a fourth because they had a potential double play and his throw was wide of the second base bag and they were lucky to get just the fielders' choice. Out there, Chisholm was unbelievably sloppy in that baseball game. Was almost fundamentally irresponsible in taking that ball and throwing it toward the dugout, trying to get a double play that he was never going to get while bear handing it to us. - It wasn't just that. It was also he was out of position on a ground ball that came over to him with runners on second and third and less than two outs. He was playing halfway while the rest of the infield was playing in on the grass. And so he couldn't get the runner at home has to throw it over to first base. That's another run that comes in that didn't have to. The ball was hit right at him and because he was just out of position, it was pretty shocking to see that many mental and physical mistakes. Yankees are the first team to make five errors in a postseason game since the Yankees in 1976. - They also had that World Series game that embarrassed them at the end of last year where they made three errors in an inning. - Were they like five nothing in that game, right? - The things that are happening to the Yankees, they have not won the World Series in 17 years. It's a pretty staggering drought for a team that had a financial advantage throughout. And Zazlow came in here today complaining about Derek Jeter. Can you guys get me the sound? I have not heard the sound of Derek Jeter's analysis of this series, but Zazlow I don't think is fair to Jeter. I think Zazlow is somebody who is unkind to Jeter. Let's hear him interviewing Michael Harris of the Braves. - So we're talking about mindset coming into this series. It seems like the whole world all they're talking about is a Los Angeles Dodgers going for a three-peat. And you guys have sort of seemed to just five under the radar. Your mindset, your mentality, is it you guys want to play the spoiler? Or you're just not necessarily thinking about the Dodgers. Do you just out there trying to prove to the rest of the world that you have the best team in baseball? - Want to play the spoiler? - Zazlow knows the playoffs? Like this is a game 160 and the Braves are a 71 team trying to keep the Dodgers out of the playoffs. They're trying to win the World Series. You an idiot? - Yeah. - They're trying to be the spoiler. - It's a dumb thing to say. - No, everyone is talking about the Dodgers. What are we, like, this is a perfectly reasonable question. - They're not trying to be a spoiler. - Against one of the biggest juggernauts in all of sports. - But spoiler, the word spoiler is a red flag and the athletes hear it like that. If you call my team a spoiler, you mean that we're the little underdog that's looking to surprise us. - You got nothing to play for. - Right. I don't think that's the case in this far in the world. - But he put the context on the question. I think we're taking sounds and we did this to Cam Ward. I think we're being unfair today. We're an hour and 10 minutes into the show and I believe we're being unfair to the people who are playing sports. - They got three minutes for it. - Oh, that's not fair. - We're 50 minutes in the show. It felt like an hour and 10 minutes because we keep doing unfair things to athletes. Jeremy, can you look up something 'cause when I saw Michael Harris, I love watching him hit because he doesn't want to walk. He doesn't care to walk. Can you look up for me whether Michael Harris has more than 100 walks in the last five seasons? Just look up for me 'cause he loves to hit the ball hard and he's not someone who wants to be taking a whole lot of walks. I don't think I have this wrong statistically but I may be off a little bit because I really do love watching him play baseball. The Dodgers are weakened. The Dodgers are hurt. The Dodgers can be taken out by any of the remaining teams in the playoffs. They are not the same team that they've been the last couple of years. They wheeze down the stretch. Otoni is not the force of nature that he's been. He is not healthy enough. And honestly, I would be surprised if the Dodgers got past the brewers. I do not expect them to get past the brewers but just look and I don't know if they'll get past the braves. We'll find out together. But I really felt like the Padres could have beaten the Dodgers either of the last two years and the braves beating Snell makes me feel like the braves have a chance to win that series. 108 walks over the last five years last year. He had 16 walks in 160 games. That's not how baseball works anymore. It's crazy. Wow, that a lot or a little what is it? Well, it's not a little 20 walks a season and a hundred, 20 walks and what's the average when you're playing 160 games usually on base percentages. Something that people are valuing. You've heard from little league tug outs across America. A walks is good as a hit because when it's your on base percentage, it's put it on the pole at Levittar show. Is a walk indeed as good as a hit? Yes or no? Is career on base percentages 3 11 3 11 from a batting average that's 278 like that's the part that's crazy. But tonight's matchup when you get Chris sale going against the Dodgers after he threw what might have been the greatest regular season start of this season earlier in the year against the Dodgers. It was a five hit shut out in a game that the braves kind of needed at that time momentum wise. They were struggling and needed to be able to surpass the Phillies and feel like they could actually win that division. It's a team that's top 10 in payroll as well. They've got the best picture in the playoffs left outside of maybe Jacob Mizorowski, who by the way, we just didn't even mention he's asleep on Drew Rasmus, he's tremendous. I can't wait to see Drew Rasmus in against Jacob Mizorowski. Raise brewers. Game one of the world series. Give it to me. It's perfect. Nobody wants that. I want it. You should want it too. I'm nobody nationally wants that. I want to give you a stat though from op to stat. So are you ready? The Yankees are the first major league team to have more players commit an error than they had get a hit for errors to three hits in a postseason game since the Reds did it. When they were no hit in 2010 by Roy Halliday. All right, Pete Doc down lebertar for five minutes. I was watching everyone just like nope, not letting you in, not letting you in. So when I got up there, I had to say something and I said it. Cheaters never prospered. Chris Cody. My buddy was saying not today. Yeah, but you're not today. Okay. I think that was what he was adding. Yeah, I'm telling you the response I got from this guy. What I said was amazing. He got him. Cheaters never sprout prospered. This guy yelled as angry as he could. Oh jeep. This is the lebertar show. Chris, have you assembled your list of Miami Heat scorers better than Tyler hero? How many are you claiming are better than Tyler heroes? All right. I may have I got Tyler hero as the 13th best score in heat history. It sounds about right. So I was a little off, but I here's my here. Well, you were a little off when you threw Vashon Leonard in there ahead. All right. I do not have him here. I have him an OLI on this list, but all right. No particular order, but roughly what I think Wade number one LeBron to Jimmy Butler three Glen rice four Chris Bosch five Shaq six. I mean, wait a minute. Does Shaq count as a score? Oh, you better stop it. I mean, by the way, I got a text from a mean that I'm right on Chris Bosch as a score only over not with the heat. Okay. But I think he'd say you're wrong on. He texted me. He's like, he's like, you are so right here. No, you didn't let me finish as I won't. I think that he would tell you that no one calls Shaq a score. Did I mention? Yeah, you didn't mention. He got you there. He got your ass there. He did get me with the left-handed limperist jumper. He did Shaq as a score is silly. Okay, Shaq. You're silly. You don't understand what we're doing. You don't know what we're doing with score thousand points. No, but that I understand. I think most people who know ball know that when we're talking about score, we're talking about somebody who can make baskets that aren't dunks that could just create their own shot. Tony, what are you saying? Are you saying that Shaq is indeed considered a score unstoppable moves. Tyler Hero, what's his unstopable move? Ooh, that little floater in the lane. Little floater in the lane, please. Imagine. Yes. Imagine this move. Where are you? You give it to Shaq. He's 300 pounds. He turned around. He's right about this. I'd pick Shaq over Bosch. Wait, Shaq scores a lot, but you're breaking, you're breaking the construct when you call Shaq a scorer. When we're talking about simply scores and you're doing the comparisons of, well, Bosch is a scorer. Hero is a scorer. Shaq's in another category. It's why Shaq says, look, it's one of the reasons Shaq says, I am not the best big man of all time, but I am the most dominant big man of all time. And he makes the distinction between the two things. I'm just picturing me and you picking teams like a pickup game and Shaq standing there and Tyler here is standing there and we're going to play a lot of offense today and you go ahead. You take Tyler. No, I'm going to take Tyler. I am not jazz. Help me. I'm a Shaq guy. All right. And I think if Shaq has the ball or Tyler here, that's not what we're doing. That's me. The Shaq point two. Can I continue? I want Shaq to. Can I continue? That's a score. All right. Six. So Shaq is six. Number seven, you ready? Yeah, honest. That's fair. That's good. That's right. That's right. That's okay. I don't think that can be right. That one by. I saw enough in the first eight minutes of that first preseason game. Chris is right about this. He hasn't scored a basket in a heat game. They forgot about playtops and he just became 14. Okay. No, that's bullshit. If the world ended today, there would be no record of Yannis having scored a basket for the heat in all of the places they do the record keeping. You cannot make Yannis. I'm taking Yannis and our pick up. No, you guys have a little, that little dirt move at the elbow, Dan. I don't care. Preseason game. He's got it. All right. So Yannis is seven. Number eight, Eddie Jones. Well, Eddie Jones is not a better score in Tyler. I don't believe that. Number nine, Ray Allen. Not only the biggest shot of your life. That is true, big shot. Yeah. You said take out the rope. You're silly. Maybe it, you know how many of those types of shots I've seen Tyler hero miss the biggest shot of your life, right? You seem, you seem stupid. You think that you've seen Tyler hero miss a lot of game season ending, winning shots in game six of the finals. No, much less, less stakes. I've seen a miss. Here's silly. Number 10, Clay Thompson. Just added. I hate you. That's a bad list. Number 11, bam, 83 points. Say something. Hello, 12 Tim Hardaway. The father 13 Mario chomers. All right. No, no, no, no balls, you've got to hone it. He's sort of, that's not what the list is. It's something that would take Mario. Chomers with a big shot. You got two people on your list to have not made a shot for the Miami Heat. Legit. Legit list. Thank you, dad. You can't have two people on your list. And then Tyler, please back me up. Never made a shot for the Miami Heat in a regular season game. You take Tyler hero. I'm take, I probably take Tyler hero of a place back right now, but peak. You just made Tyler hero a top 10 score with your list is what you just did. A top 10 score in Miami Heat history. Yeah, borderline. I think that's borderline. I think that's fair. But if you ask me to name the heats top five all-time players, put you on us in there. No question about it. One of the top five. You know what that list needs based on one game, Willie Burton. It only was gave me a thumbs up. Hey, good, good list, my curse. Pam, Pam can't be on that list. 83 points. Yeah, 83 points. He has the trump card now. The what card? Mr. 83. The trump card used appropriately, not like the other one. I thought you said trump card, my bad. I misheard you. Can I, can I interest you guys in the LeBron helicopter story? Hell no. This is a funny and interesting thing that is happening with LeBron. LeBron lives outside of Philadelphia. He hates Philadelphia. He hates the city. It can be that he likes New York. That's also possible. He is taking a 40-minute helicopter ride every day and it's being reported now that that is being provided by fanatics, correct? That the fanatics helicopter and we told you about some of this. The logo on the helicopter is a dead giveaway. We've told you that Michael Rubin owns fanatics. He's a giant player in sports. He is ascending to a place where he is becoming if not the most powerful person in sports, very close to it and LeBron's got an assortment of side deals that pay him a great deal more than he's being paid to play basketball by the Philadelphia 76ers and while it doesn't break any rules and it is not against the salary cap, there are an assortment of prizes and perks that the biggest athlete in America is getting that. How would I say this? It's not suspicious. I told you when the first sign with Philadelphia that the Miami Heat were curious about some of the things that happened and it was reported that the Miami Heat were furious and the Miami Heat were not furious. The Miami Heat were legitimately curious on how things with LeBron fell apart and they wondered while asking questions. They suspected that it may have had something to do with what it is was happening with fanatics and now you hear that a helicopter is being provided that LeBron is evidently taking every day twice a day which incidentally, I don't know how the rest of you feel about this. Pre-Coby, I'm not sure that this would have given me something that upset my stomach even though the helicopter is obviously unsafe and if something goes wrong in a helicopter, it's catastrophic. Like I remember the Titan submersible people were arguing that the submarine is actually a safer vehicle than all of the other vehicles because of how few injuries and deaths there are on submarines. But if something catastrophic happens in a submarine, your life is going to end. When people make the argument that cars are more dangerous than planes, people are more afraid of planes because if something goes wrong, it is going to be a fatality. There's something about remembering the specifics of exactly where I was on a highway when I learned that Kobe's life had been extinguished that makes me feel like what LeBron is doing is more reckless and dangerous by taking a helicopter than it actually probably is. I mean, I feel the same way about athletes who happen to be licensed pilots like They're my months in enroll holiday. It's a dangerous thing to do. - Just feels unnecessary. I've never been in a helicopter before. I will never go in a helicopter unless I absolutely, for some reason, must go in the helicopter. I just, it doesn't feel safe to me. I avoid stuff like that. - You know, beyond the danger, I think the optics are bad for LeBron. And, you know, we all know Philadelphia fans. I don't think Philadelphia fans appreciate that their new star player isn't embracing the city, isn't living in the city. Instead, he's the billionaire taking a helicopter and everything. It's just, it doesn't look good to me. - Can I discuss this as a criticism point? Bad optics, bad look. Feels like a totally empty criticism. It has no real consequences. It's just somebody doesn't like the way something looks. And it's just an empty criticism. Okay, you don't like how it looks. It's a bad look and what? - And LeBron doesn't care. - And doesn't care at all. He's flying in a helicopter. He's avoiding all of the traffic. He's getting from New York to Philadelphia in 40 minutes 'cause it would take two hours. Or more if he bothered with traffic. And he done, like the criticism of, and it's criticism I see all the time in media now, all the time. Something's a bad look. Wait, I mean, Cal Cousmas, a bad look. The way that he leaves his closet, bad look. Nobody cares what you think is a bad look on optics. - What do you mean nobody cares? What if Philadelphia fans care? What if the city is not embracing him 'cause it otherwise would because he's living somewhere else? - What are the real consequences of saying something's a bad look? It's just a bunch of people who aren't in the arena complaining about how something looks. Like it's just optics, it's nothing. It's totally empty, criticism. Totally. - I think optics matter. Okay. - How, give me the, give me, what are the consequences to LeBron on this? - To LeBron, the fans don't receive him as warmly as they otherwise would. He's not one of them. He's the only player on the team. Not living in the city he's playing in. - So do optics never matter? - For public relations they matter, but at the point you are in LeBron's career with the power that he's had over 22 years, do you know how many things have been assessed to be a bad look and there are no actual consequences to it? It's just people clucking and gossiping and complaining and talking about America's most famous athlete. It doesn't mean anything real. It's just something the media likes to swing around so they can complain about somebody and so that they can criticize somebody. - Is this about the helicopter? Is this about not staying in New York? Like what if Yannis was gonna live in West Palm Beach but drive here every day, not a helicopter? Like, with dad, are they not, are Miami fans not gonna accept him as much? Because he's saying. - I don't, but I think this is silly. What are you talking about? If Philadelphia wins, they'll accept LeBron and if they don't win, they won't accept LeBron. Like it's not, it's not about a helicopter. It's not about where he lives. - Well, so you don't think, and you don't think it matters. You don't think that there's a fairly big slice of fans in that city who are kind of looking at each other like he's flying in an helicopter. Why didn't he just live here? What's he doing? What's wrong with our city? He's playing for our team now. How about you live where you play? - I think you're right, Greg. I'm on your side, but it also doesn't matter. Like if the Sixers win, that's all they're gonna care about. I do think the optics matter sometimes in cases like this because you know what? It takes away any benefit of the doubt. If the team's not playing well, it's not just the team not playing well. It's not also, the team's not playing well and he doesn't even want to be here. - Down LeBotar. - Can't trade Marino. - Nice hat. - Nice hat. - It's what he's supposed to know for. It's like, I'm holding onto it. - Greg Cody. - Nice. - They won nine and two. But it's Marino. - Nice hat. - And then the next time we saw Marino after Greg Cody trade him, he threw for five touchdowns. - Nice hat. - And he was the man on the cover score two straight. - You can't trade Marino. - Nice hat, asshole. - This is the down LeBotar show. (upbeat music) - When you guys say optics matter, I'm begging you to tell me how once you've reached the rarefied air that LeBron is in, where he doesn't actually have to care what anyone is saying about anything. Like you're saying benefit of the doubt. If the sixers collapse, there's gonna be no benefit of the doubt. And he will have heard nothing by living in Philadelphia and not helicoptering. If he stopped helicoptering right now and that team doesn't meet expectations, there's no one who's gonna say, but at least he lives in Philadelphia who will literally be buying himself nothing. - You're right. It doesn't actually mean anything. But fans, like the idea of the player who is playing for their team, to also like being there. - It's undeniable. - It doesn't mean anything. - Only LeBotar is denying it. - No, but this is what you guys do though. Fans can like all of the, all they want. And a player is gonna have agency over his own career. None more than this one. Like he has not, at very many points, done what fans have wanted, except in going back to Cleveland one time. He told you he wanted to be in New York and he's gonna be in New York. He wanted to be there with the Knicks. He wanted to be there with the Knicks team. James Dolan isn't gonna be able to keep together. Like Carl Anthony Towns is already saying and Brunson and I don't know if you're gonna have their contracts come up in a year and require extensions. And James Dolan has told you he's not going into the second apron. And so LeBron wanted to play for a New York basketball team that has been mismanaged the entire time Dolan has had it and will be mismanaged again, even if they won the championship. And so he wants to live in New York. He wants to live in Miami, Los Angeles, and New York. The idea that fans would feel entitled to telling somebody where it is they should live is the height of fan entitlement. Like it really is. - I disagree. - Okay, you can disagree but it's entitlement and you're entitled. Like you think you should have some sort of say over where LeBron lives when he's the first one at the facility. Like if you told me he was being there late and everything else but he's arriving first and he's landing right on Philadelphia's business offices with his helipad. I think the worst look isn't necessarily living in the other place. It's the opulence of flying in on the helicopter. I'm better than you. I'm better than my teammates. I'm better than everybody. I'm richer than you. I'm taking these new deals with these other sponsors that are clearly just funneling me money in an interesting way that seems different. And there are genuine sponsorships here, unlike the Kawaii stuff where people are trying to make it the same thing. But what it does when everybody goes, oh, that's curious, that's weird. Is it makes people bring back up what was reported by, I believe it was Forbes or it could have been Bloomberg that reported that when LeBron was going to the Los Angeles Lakers, all of a sudden a limited liability company that he controlled borrowed almost $300 million from life insurers of Guggenheim, which is all questionable right now, right before he goes to the Lakers. So now it has people asking questions about all of the behind the scenes money, more so than anything else, and everybody gets upset to see an MBA star who played for the Lakers in a helicopter. - Okay, and anyone who gets upset with an athlete having more power and more freedom than they'd like, doesn't understand what this person has earned over the entirety of an unprecedented career. - That's right. - The New York Post talked to a helicopter company and estimated the total cost for the next two years, playoffs not included of about 67 round trips via helicopter. You guys wanna guess roughly what that costs, what it is, the value that fanatics owned by Michael Rubin, and I meant to say he used to be a minority owner of the 76ers, but he didn't like the amount of power that gave him, he thought he could parlay his relationship with Joel and beat into better things off the court away from the sixers, then as a minority owner, and so is the owner of fanatics. He evidently has a deal with LeBron Worth. - Oh, I mean, he's making at least four times, I think, what his salary is, what's his- - No, but that's Polly Market. I'm talking about the helicopter stuff. - That would say a million bucks. - It's $800,000, a little over $800,000, according to the New York Post, but you guys do understand what you're doing here, right? You guys are trying to limit the power and freedom of a player, you just don't like how it feels. - No, I don't think anyone's trying to limit it. Like, for instance, I like that Yannis seems to be enjoying living in Miami. I like that, he's one of our guys now. - You seen this place in Pinecrest? - Yeah, he's enjoying being here. - That implies that you would hold it against him if he was in Palm Beach, which if he's- - Well, no, it's a difference. - LeBron's living in a different state. - But it's like, how far would the drive be? If he's not doing a helicopter a couple hours. - You're right, it would be the same amount of drive. I get the proximity you're talking about, but at least Palm Beach is still South Florida. - It's a bad drive, okay? If there's traffic, that's usually a 90 minute drive, Philadelphia in New York. If the traffic's perfect, it can be a lot longer. I will ask you this though, 'cause we only do it to the athletes. You guys do realize, right? Wayne Eizenga hated Miami. So he made Fort Lauderdale what it is, so he didn't have to come into Miami. He was not proud to be of Miami and he owned the teams, and nobody cared. Nobody cared, nobody talked about it, nobody thought. He built Fort Lauderdale on the water, and the intercoastal in Fort Lauderdale, he's got like, I don't know if he still owns it, but it was like, it's like three, it's like the largest place in Fort Lauderdale. - He hated how Brown Miami was. - And so he- - Is that a quote? - He built a- - I'm just- - He built a- - That's not just- - What? - He built a- Allegedly white on clay. He built an entire city in Fort Lauderdale. You're adding colors to our IP Wayne Jesus Fort Lauderdale It's white Miami's not Miami is brown and Wayne Heisenge did not like how brown it was did not but that's apples and oranges I mean Miami and Fort Lauderdale are neighbors. No one roots for the owner like I don't care what Wayne Heisenge likes No, he roots the only way to hit the reckless speculation for that I didn't like that. No, that is not a reckless speculation. That is a happen to know. Oh no. He happens to know Like Steve Ross doesn't live here. I don't I don't give a shit He's the owner. All right, so it's just the players that you just do this. The people I root for it. It's okay I mean, feel it imagine a Philadelphia fan Washing him flying on his helicopter from New York. He can't live where he play. I'm telling what's wrong with what's wrong with our I can't believe I just said he's living in the city where we hate the team. I just want to be clear I don't like how rich LeBron is but it's fine that Heisenge is and then he doesn't like brown people don't care I don't care It's not important to me that bad optics on LeBron show me how rich he is but Heisenge's bad optics don't care Brown optics don't care For what it's worth Fort Lauderdale is pretty black not the part Heisenge was building. Oh, certainly not no, no, not a system. Oh, no Also, have you seen Philly? I love Philly great town. You seen it. You think LeBron's gonna live in Philly. He was in living Kensington. Come on I love Philadelphia. I love I love the Philly's a great town. I love Philly. So great eats. I love Philly It's been there multiple times. It's a great place. I would never live there. I love the character in history of Philadelphia You guys are doing something though that is really funny where I just want you guys to notice, okay? I wasn't listening to the game last night. So I asked you guys has Troy Ekman gotten out of his vocabulary as good as anyone in the game over the last couple I haven't heard it. I was very very plugged in last night did not see her pay at pay attention to how often Immediate critic has nothing to say in terms of criticism other than bad optics just pay a bad look somebody saying something's a bad look It's an empty criticism. It has no real consequences It's just the discomfort of the critic not liking something and filing it under the umbrella of bad look It's only an empty criticism in this case if you think a large number of Philadelphia basketball fans aren't sort of put off by the situation there. They're thrilled to have him anywhere near their city Okay, so nobody thinking why is he living it? Why don't care where he lives? They care where he plays. All right, you're speaking for everybody Maybe you're speaking for everybody. I know I am. You're speaking negatively for everybody. You know you are I think I think I'm I've got a more of a pulse on a Philly on Philly fans in this case Then you that's true put it on the poll. I think you're ridiculous to think that Philly Philly fans some of them and a great number of them are not upset that LeBron Which do you think they care about more that LeBron's playing in Philly or that he's not living in Philly? I think they care about both which do you think they care about more obviously that he's playing pretty season game last night Even place right now is I'm doing that What did you just say what was that last sentence you sound like you just ate a bunch of words? Everyone heard me. What what no, I don't think any Chris can you tell me what Zaz's last sentence just was because it sounded like I've never heard you're Well said that's not me I don't know who that is who that is you said it well Yesterday I was accused on the show and I went home laughing at how you guys had to have distorted my sound so quickly There's simply no way distort it. There's just simply no way I was accused yesterday Greg that came out of Dan yesterday what and it was louder. We've lowered that by a lot Wild animal. What was that? Sounds like close your eyes. You're in a swamp right now and there's frog dad. You're afraid of frogs Just imagine frogs everywhere. We got three minutes from if I told you guys that this was the sound Roy getting your seat and do your job. Don't stop off running laughing at something like just Don't stop off running laughing at your own Joe's. There's three minutes left in the segment Okay, a joke for no one for no one. That was a joke for Roy and then he was so amused by himself that he stops off running and laughing And how funny he is when I want to ask the question of what is clearly distorted sound does this sound like a wild boar searching for truffles Yes Did you find any Delicious Not the first time I've been accused of being a boar, but that's not how we spell it What else does that sound like because I can't believe how quickly you guys betrayed me and Altered the sound in order to make this a really bad look for me The optics were not great So I was mad yesterday though Greg because they then accused me and I need your help here because and I don't know How much help you're gonna give me when you talk about dancing swords when you talk about not having breakfast when you talk about having Only coffee for 16 hours with the occasional slice of bacon. You very often have stomach issues that I can hear as you can also hear them in here Yesterday, I was accused of being unfair to an old man because sounds like this that come out of me that are distorted That are not fair and not accurate and are clearly exaggerated They're saying I accused you of that even though I've heard the sound and Zaz has heard the sound multiple times You often have stomach problems in the morning here. I wouldn't call them stomach problems I have a natural sound that I make my digestive tract is my own Because you don't eat. No, we you know what? Drinking in a recessive amount of coffee is good for you. If you don't believe me, it's not true with extra milk No, he's right about that though. It's that's how curtail's it curtail's the appetite and keeps his steam lined with extra milk Polymarket reported that recently. I don't know what polymarket is, but you can just whatever stop saying it. Please. Thank you. Okay What just go go We've got a giant sponsor that is our best sponsor ever and you don't pay any attention to these things And so you're dumbfounded when we tell you to stop doing something and you just continue to lean in on something Let's hear from Zaz low earlier in the show somebody translate this for me, but right now it's time to do all that What the hell is that? Right now it's time to do all that We agree that right now it's time to do all that that's bullshit No, but right now it's time to do all that right now it's time to do all that Right now it's time to do all that right now it's time to do all that