The AI Industry’s Wake-Up Call

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New American company that will invest $500 billion, at least, in AI infrastructure. The company Nvidia reporting stronger than anticipated earnings overnight. It is nearly a $5 trillion company now. The emerging titans of this industry seem like they've got armor on, right? What can touch them? But in recent days, we have started to see chinks in that armor. Glitches have gone from being amusing to concerning. Public sentiment started to turn. Politicians started to listen. In this weekend, something seemed to snap. Some of the very executives who have pushed this technology to the world seemed to ask for help, reigning it in. ABC's Elizabeth Shoesie covers business and tech policy. Elizabeth, what happened that ratcheted the tension of these last few days? This really exploded into the public view in the past couple of days, Brad. After there was an ominous warning from a researcher at Anthropic, who quit. He said that the reason he was quitting is because the companies behind AI, open AI and Anthropic mostly, are developing this technology so fast and they're not looking out for basically humanity. He said that these people earnestly believe that the tech could kill us all by the end of the decade and that they're not doing enough to prevent that from happening. We almost immediately heard a current team leader at Anthropic agree with that post, then, Brad. He posted, "We do believe AI could kill all humans, adding that there is a greater than 10% chance that that happens over the next decade." And these posts on X went absolutely viral over a hundred million views. People talking about this idea of how quickly AI is advancing and what does this mean that it could take out humanity within a decade. I think the concept of building a superintelligence is, well, it's been likened to summoning an alien species. That researcher from Anthropic, who quit Jacob Coxen, went on this week with George Stephanopoulos. It was exceptionally surprising to see the level of engagement with the tweet. But he said it's good that it's serving as a way for people to wake up to what this threat from AI really is. It's pretty important to keep your eyes open about the direction, things are heading, and not necessarily leave it all up to the people that are building it. And we heard reaction on Capitol Hill. Slow down the pace of development in order to protect the American people, and ensure that AI is proceeding safely. This really kind of became a wake-up call, even though we have been hearing these warnings from companies for quite some time. And then over the weekend, the CEO of Anthropic responded to this for the first time in a very lengthy essay, basically sounding the alarm and saying, "Yeah, we do have to slow down how quickly AI is advancing right now." Well, and this is the thing Elizabeth, because usually I would assume if someone comes forward and says, "These companies need to act more responsibly." I would imagine the current CEOs would go, "You know, this is one disgruntled former employee. Don't worry about it, everything's fine." And instead of sounds like multiple CEOs who work in AI are coming out and saying, "Yeah, this is kind of getting out of control. Am I getting the message right?" That's exactly it. And these CEOs are saying, "Now's the time that we need to do something." And what they're saying we need to do is slow down how fast these AI models are developing. And Dario Amade in this essay pointed to two reasons why this is so important at this moment in time. He said, "One, that AI is basically advancing faster to the point that it can build itself." So it is starting to kind of self-generate in a way that humans cannot control. And then second, there was this very obvious incident where that happened earlier in the summer, where open AI, we talked about this, basically some of their agents, their AI models, went rogue. They escaped a controlled environment that was controlled by humans. And they hacked another company. And that was this hugging face incident. And that has really been a turning point for a lot of leaders in AI who said, "This has always been a threat lurking in the background. Now it is happening." And that's why Dario Amade said, "Let's actually slow this down now. He wants to take steps like having independent monitors embedded with these companies to try to monitor cybersecurity, see what kind of incidents are having flag any issues internally." And that's something that almost immediately we saw Sam Altman of open AI agree that needs to happen. Elon Musk also said he agrees with Dario Amade. I mean, these are people, Brad, who don't really typically tend to get along. And they are all agreeing. I was going to say all of a sudden they're like mutual disarmament, this is what it sounds like. Exactly. And so it does seem like that hugging face incident was a point at which everyone who had been worried about this maybe more in the background. It really did kind of come to the forefront. And there has been a series of other incidents since then too. But here's my dirty secret, Elizabeth. I don't understand what these guys always mean when they say it's getting dangerous or it's getting out of control. Because this engineer was not saying like, "AI is going to render some of our jobs obsolete faster than we think." No, he was saying these companies are "gambling with our lives." I mean, you just mentioned somebody saying we could die because of AI? Like, what does that actually mean? What are the scenarios they're worried about? I think that's such a good question because how exactly could AI wipe out humanity? But we have gotten a couple of concrete examples from that from these companies that they say are at risk of happening in the very near future. Dario Amade wrote in this essay in six to twelve months, "A swarm of AI agents could basically," he says, "take over the entire internet with what is a pretty much like a virtual army of bots." And if you think about that for one second, how much of our lives rely on the internet? If somehow AI was able to hack into the internet, and that means your fridge that's connected to the internet, your car that's connected to the internet, all of your banking information, think about how much we rely on the internet every day. If AI agents are hacking into that, that is a huge problem that could cause tons of economic damage and harm to. There's also this very alarming threat when it comes to biological weapons. And, you know, just in the last week, we did hear Anthropics say that it had blocked some actors from using its quad platform in ways that could support building a biological weapon. Not of their own design. Like, this was like what terrorists could like basically say, like, "Yeah, let me use a chatbot to create this," or something. And there was evidence that some countries like Iran are using that technology to try to develop weapons that haven't been developed before. You've got the threat of a cyber attack on a water system or a power system. It's hard to understand because we're not talking about like in the movies, a giant machine that all the sudden kind of takes over and has this power, you know, in the way that like a super villain might have, but when we are living in a world that is run by the internet, if you have AI that has the capacity to break that internet, it's hard to comprehend the amount of harm that could be done. And that sort of, part of at least the root cause behind these warnings. Well, if these companies, if the CEOs of these American companies are saying, "Hey, let's stand down for a second." Is that all it takes? Or does there need to be political willpower to fix this? Because I've heard about people getting upset about data centers in their back. Yard, this is different, right? Because whatever American companies aren't willing to do, I would assume there's some Chinese competitor out there who sees no problem, like continuing to move forward. So, what sort of regulation can there be? And that is the top concern we hear from lawmakers, including by the way President. Trump. There's only going to be I think one winner here. I don't know if anybody agrees with that. I think most people agree, but there's only going to be one winner here and that's probably going to be the US or China. Whoever wins AI wins and we can put guardrails, we can do this and that, but I think you have a lot of negative forces and bringing it up that shouldn't be bringing it up. These AI companies are saying there is a need for government regulation to some extent. There need to be guardrails in place where you know one idea is a kill switch, where if there was some sort of catastrophic situation, the government would have access to a way to turn off these models. How that would actually work? Very big question. You do also have some skepticism from people in the government, including the former White House AI Tsar, his David Sacks. He posted over the weekend Brad that these companies actually need to stop pretending he said to need someone else's permission like government, you know, like regulation to do what's right here. They say you have the power to slow this down. This is not a government problem. This is a company problem. And you know, it is worth noting at the same time that this is happening, Brad, anthropic has said it's trying to go public within a matter of months and what could be one of the biggest IPOs ever. This is a company that wants to make money. So there's this inherent kind of push pull where anthropic is saying we want to do the right thing. We need to slow this down, but they're also trying to grow as a company and go public. And you have this tension where how can you do both of those things at the same time when you are at the forefront of this? Over the weekend, we did see that attempt from Dario Amade to lay out the steps of how at least this could get slowed down, but not stopped. But unsurprisingly, you've got lawmakers on Capitol who are saying, no, we just need to stop this altogether. Bernie Sanders wants to just ban superintelligence. So there is a lot of catching up to do in this conversation from lawmakers here in DC from policymakers. There doesn't seem to be a lot of movement on this from people within the companies themselves. Yeah, it's interesting. We also saw a former president Barack Obama say the Democrats should make this like a cornerstone of their campaigns going forward sort of reigning in AI. And yet, like you said, there's this fundamental tension of do we want to be first? Do we want to be responsible? Can you be both somehow Elizabeth Shilzy? Thank you so much. Thank you, Rad. Next up on start here, Saudi Arabia seemed uniquely poised and defend itself against attacks from one country. But what about three? We're back in a bit. This show is sponsored by Horizon 3. A weird thing about life. Can you feel secure without actually being secure? I don't know. Have you ever accidentally nicked yourself while chopping vegetables or shaving? You've done those tasks a thousand times in your life. Enough that you barely think of them as having any risk at all. But familiar is not the same as a risk free. 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And so this weekend, with people already worried about the price of oil, Saudi Arabia announced it was shutting down one of its most important oil pipelines as it comes under attack. Abc's foreign correspondent Lamah Hassan has been following all this closely. Lamah, first up, what is happening in Saudi Arabia? Hey Brad, so Saudi Arabia has shut down a major pipeline. It's called the East West pipeline. These Saudis believe that multiple drone attacks were launched from inside Iraq and they believe that those attacks damage the pipeline. No one has claimed responsibility yet and the Iraqis we understand have launched an investigation. And Saudi right now is saying that the kingdom will not retaliate. We understand that this weekend Iran backed rebels, the Houthis. They claim they hit a mosque and several buildings in Saudi Arabia. We heard from the Houthis spokesperson. He said that they targeted a weapons depots and a command and control center. Now we know that markets don't like instability and the one way I can describe what's happening in the Persian Gulf and the Middle East, of course, is just that instability. Well and so help me understand the geography here because I think that's important. So you got the Arabian Peninsula, which is mostly Saudi Arabia. And Saudi Arabia has kind of the privilege of being on two different gulfs, right? It's got two different coasts. And so these militants up in Iraq, they're firing drones at this like cross-country pipeline that goes from one gulf to the other. But then below Saudi Arabia, then you got the Houthis in Yemen who are controlling not just some land, but also sea. How does that plan everything? Okay, so let's take a look at the Houthis. Who are the Houthis? We know that they are backed by Iran. They are a rebel group. They are, of course, armed and the US has designated them a terror organization. They've been at war with the Yemeni government since 2014, which is when they took control of the capital Sunnah. So they've been at war for more than a decade. We understand that in 2022, there was a brief truce that essentially stopped the fighting, but it didn't end the war. And now we have a potentially dangerous development. We are now seeing the Houthis seizing this moment, seizing the war with Iran, taking control of several strategic cities in Yemen from pro-government forces, from the air and on land. We've seen them in their pickup trucks. We've seen videos of them moving essentially from town to town. It's a lightning offensive. They are advancing. And critically, we are seeing them take over areas including the Red Sea port of Al-Moha. That's near the strait of Babel Mandab. So this is another important strait. It's a key shipping route that links Asia and Europe. It's about 16 miles wide, but think about this. 15 percent of sea trade goes through it under normal circumstances, of course. And it has been important because remember that the strait of Hormuz has effectively been shut for the last six months. Saudi Arabia has been using the Babel Mandab strait as a way of exporting its oil. The Houthis insist that there are no restrictions on international shipping that only are targeting Saudi vessels. And of course, as we know, Saudi Arabia is a major producer of oil. And so the Babel Mandab strait has been very important. It's been an important shipping lane. So the Saudis are shipping stuff through the strait of Hormuz. Boom. Iran is firing its ships. They go fine. We'll ship stuff through the Red Sea. Boom now, the Houthis are firing on those ships off of Yemen. And then if you wanted to send oil back and forth between the coast, well now that's tough to do because these militants are coming in with drones from the north. So there's no place to send this oil. Yeah, exactly. And so then what do you do? If the Saudis can't export this oil, then what happens? They can't use the strait of Babel Mandab. The Iranian-backed Houthis are targeting these pipelines in the Saudi Arabia. So there really is no resolution to this. And that's the issue that we're facing right now. This could potentially open a new front in this war, Brad. Really helpful context here, because again, I think you're right that people hear about the Houthis at war. And it's been this way. It seems very static. And yet it's very quick escalation just in the last few weeks that really makes this that much more dangerous for their neighbors. Lama Hassan, they're in London now. Thank you so much. - It's a pleasure, Brad. We're heading in a cold and flu season. There are new COVID shots available. Every year there's a different dominant strain, therefore a slightly new recipe. One vaccine that has not changed much in recent years is the measles vaccine. It stayed the same for years and has been remarkably effective at creating a kind of herd immunity among Americans. But yesterday in Pennsylvania, county authorities announced a 40-year-old woman has died due to complications from the measles, and this is the third measles death reported in Pennsylvania alone this year. ABC's Yuri Benajoud is with our medical unit, he joins us now, Yuri. What do we know about this death? Well, we really don't know much here, Brad. We only know that this was a 40-year-old woman. She was unvaccinated. As you mentioned, this is the third death that was reported in the state. It's the first time Pennsylvania has actually seen measles death in over 35 years. And how unusual is that? Like, I guess, how widespread is this outbreak that we're talking about here? Well, Brad, you have to remember, measles was actually declared eliminated in the year 2000. We had this virus beat, the health officials had said there was no longer enough spread to declare it prominent in the United States. But in recent years, we've seen more and more cases and more and more outbreaks. We have confirmed 676 cases of measles across 37 of our counties. We track these trends closely, not to cause alarm, but to provide clarity. And Pennsylvania is really an epicenter here. In the United States, it's claimed almost nearly 700 infections, more than 100 hospitalizations here. But it's not alone. There's nearly 40 outbreaks across the United States. And nationally, we've seen over 3,000 measles cases, the highest number since 1991. Is there a reason this year? Yuri, is it just all about vaccination rates or what? Yes. So if you just look back at the numbers, Brad, in terms of vaccination rates, back in 2019, 25% of kidneyigarters had the measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine, that MMR shot, that's now dropped to 92%. Now, you may be scratching your head thinking, well, we're only talking about three percentage points. But that's a lot of kids. It's over 300,000 kidneyigarters right now that are entering classrooms without protection from this very contagious virus. This illness and death from measles is completely preventable. We already have the tools to protect ourselves and our families from this disease, which is one of the most contagious diseases on the face of the earth. Brad, just to give you an idea of how contagious this virus is, that you take 20 of those kidneyigarters we were just talking about, and one of them was sick with measles. Well, they're likely to infect 18 of their unvaccinated classmates. And even when that sick child leaves the room, that virus will linger on surfaces like the desks and toys for up to two hours, even living in the air for up to two hours. That's why you're seeing all of these outbreaks across the country, and that's why health officials and doctors are so concerned, and urging parents to really make sure their children are protected here with that MMR vaccine. It comes in two doses, to be able to get your first after your first year of life, and then you get that second shot after your fourth year of life, and Brad, those two doses, 97% effective at preventing this virus. Right. Although, I mean, you can tell parents like get your kids vaccinated. Is there anything for government authorities to do here? I know there's a new CDC director. I mean, is there a federal angle to all this? There is a little bit of action from the federal level, but we've seen a lot of dispute actually between federal health officials here and state health officials. As we've talked about, this is now the third death reported in the state, and in the first two, they were related to infants, and the corner actually did an investigation, and the question arose as to whether or not measles was the underlying cause of death, right? But that medical question then entered the political sphere. When the information we see coming from the federal government in some cases isn't driven by facts and by science, it makes it even more confusing for parents, and that has a serious impact. On the one hand, you have Governor Josh Shapiro and Pennsylvania criticizing Robert F. Kennedy Jr. that HHS Secretary is saying he's downplaying measles and the outbreaks and also spreading vaccine misinformation, and then RFK Jr. is refuting that, saying that Shapiro was essentially using this for political gain, and this feud kind of continued on X. And as you mentioned, there's a newly minted CDC director, and an unusual statement just yesterday came out and said that her agency hadn't been invited yet to the state, but it's really all analogous, a lot of unusual drama here in the world of public health. That's interesting. Is that a blue state thing? You're either like you'd have maybe Democrat-led states like Pennsylvania saying, "Well, we don't want, if this is going to get politicized by RFK Jr.'s division here, like we don't want any part of it, is that what's happening, or do we know?" Well, it's possible, right? But states always have to invite the federal government when it comes to public health issues to help them assist with any outbreaks that they're dealing with. Typically a lot of state health departments are quite robust. They have a lot of epidemiologists. They have a lot of scientists there that can help track down, but they might invite the CDC to help. South Carolina, for example, had a measles outbreak that started in October. They didn't invite the CDC up until earlier this year back in March or April. So it kind of varies depending on whether or not the state really wants the CDC's help here. But it is possible, right? As you mentioned and hinted to, that RFK Jr.'s presence in this is sort of dissuading these states from actually inviting the federal government in. Really fascinating. All right. You re-bendage out, keeping an eye on all this. Thank you so much. Thanks, Brad. Okay, one more quick break. When we come back, there are things that sting worse than being called "soft." That's why a lot of people were staying inside this weekend. One last thing is next. First of all, let's talk about shopping. Because we want to make sure we have a lot of technical progress. We want to make sure we don't have to go to the front-end or the front-end or even go to the back-end. When shopping is a part of our business, it is a part of the economy. There is a lot of work going on, and we want to make sure we have a lot of shopping. And we want to make sure that we have a lot of work going on in shopping. We want to make sure that we have a lot of work going on in shopping. First of all, we want to make sure that we have a lot of work going on in shopping. And one last thing. I've always been confused by the difference between a wasp and a yellow jacket. Well, now a huge chunk of the Midwest is abuzz with the same question asking what exactly is taking over our towns. For the record, it turns out a yellow jacket is a type of wasp, a hornets another. But right now in Wisconsin, exterminator companies say they've never been so busy responding to swarms of wasps. Now, a bee is one thing. Lots of people get nervous around bees, but a bee can only sting you once. Wasps can sting multiple times, and yellow jackets are known for being particularly aggressive when they feel threatened. So why are they more plentiful this year? Experts say it all has to do with numbers, resources, and weather. See, back in the spring, much of the Midwest had a very early, very pleasant spring. Temperatures in March and April were relatively warm. That meant that clean wasps started laying eggs earlier, leading to more wasp babies, but baby wasps become adult wasps in a matter of weeks. So where have they been before now? Well, yellow jackets largely subsist on sugar, nectar, tree sap, and fruit. During the summer, you can find a lot of that in your local meadow, right? In September and October, though, that fruit is gone. There are fewer resources, and that is when these wasp colonies, particularly those with lots of babies start hunting for sugar elsewhere. Meaning, your picnic, your soda can, your garbage, to humans suddenly, they're everywhere. Wisconsin wasp experts say the goofy part about all this is no matter what weather we see next March, you're likely going to see this again. That is because this very wasp-friendly summer has probably created more greens to be, more princesses, if you will. That means more eggs next season, and if winters keep getting warmer, well, every autumn, you're probably going to see a lot more yellow. There are lots of reasons to think a climate change is concerning, but roving swarms of wasps is now very much up there on my list. Hey, if you're enjoying the show, make sure to leave us a five-star rating and review. One of our listeners recently wrote to say how much they enjoyed Devin Dwyer as a guest host recently. I agree, so good, right? I am concerned that this review might have been coming from a family member. I'm Brad Milky. I'll see you tomorrow. Olen Schellen-Maldonado, the director of Artesaan Institute of Technology, has been working on the project. 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