The 2026 Movie Auction Returns!

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I'm Amanda Dobbins. And this is The Big Picture, a conversation show about auctioning. Chris Ryan sits between us. It's a big bull over here. There's no auction that goes on here. Listen, the clock is back up on the display. The clock will be up. We've done one auction this year. Got a hot lunch date back there. Like, who cares about the clock? You want to hear Jack doing the bidding, accepting the bids in real time? That would be fun. Well, okay. Maybe we'll explore that for 2027. But this is 2026. This is part two of our movie auction. And we're going to start selecting movies right after this. This episode of The Big Picture is presented by Amazon Prime. One of the best things about streaming is that you never just pick a title. You pick a feeling. And Prime makes that easy. With great entertainment and fast shipping that brings the moment to life, Prime helps you experience the feeling you're craving. Shows you can't wait for and deliveries you don't wait for. One click away. From streaming to fast shipping, it's on Prime. Okay, we're back. Now, this is relevant to what we're going to discuss here on this auction episode since we're at the halfway mark of the year. But did anybody watch the werewolf trailer? Yeah, I watched part of it. And I knew we were going to talk about it. But it's a real it's, it's important to me to know when things are for me and when things are not for me and things are for you and meaningful to you. So delete your name from the schedule for December 24. You me and Rob as I think so. Yeah, monster. I think top five werewolf movies done deal. Sure. You know, like that episode writes itself. The film. Robert, Eggers is adaptation of the werewolf story. The trailer looks shockingly similar to the Nosferatu trailer. Now, is that a good thing or a bad thing? Because that movie is a big hit, very well reviewed, but looks iterative. And and as someone who did actually both seen Nosferatu and listen to your episode with Rob Mahoney, the villain of the big picture, three and a half years running. You guys walked out of it. Admiring, but not enthusiastic. There was Yeah, there was a distance from from Nosferatu. So to then remake a thing that you already felt at a remove from. I don't know. How are you feeling? Can I? I'll jump in and say not to paraphrase myself from that podcast. But we discussed whether or not Eggers was Wes Andersoning, at least in terms of the perception of him as a filmmaker that like he a like to work in these little dioramas. But I would say even in the marketing of his films, perhaps it's a little bit different. But it's a little bit different. But I would say, yeah, it's a little bit different. It's a little bit different. Perhaps is now leaning into a if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Kind of don't don't change it. Don't cure this man. Yeah, don't let him be a demon. You guys want me to dig into another classic monster? I did. Yeah, I noted on a text chain, though, which Chris is a part of this morning that like it did feel to me like the witch, the lighthouse, and the Northman was like a progression. Different kinds of movies, similar register, but some funnier than others, some in different time periods, some with different emotional construction. Nosferatu felt a little more like the witch. The werewolf looks a lot like Nosferatu. Yeah. So, you know, it's just the trailer. We don't know. But Nosferatu was such a big hit that it does make sense to just try to run it back. Aaron Taylor Johnson is back. He was one of the stars of Nosferatu. Willem Dafoe, of course, is in it. He's in every movie that Eggers makes. I'm generally a big fan of Eggers. He's been on the show like nine times. Absolutely miserable every time he speaks to me. And I look forward to the film. Miserable because he doesn't want to be a part of the promotion process? No, because I'm just like, Rob, tell me, like, in your in your heart, what are the thematic core elements of Nosferatu? My job here was to, like, recreate, what is it, 15th century English or whatever he's doing. Much like Wes Anderson, where I think everybody is like, looks like another fucking Wes Anderson movie. And then five years later, like, actually, this one had a lot of pathos. It's like, I wonder if that will start to happen for Eggers movies. I think I think that's insightful. Yeah, I think that's insightful. The movies are obviously incredibly well made and beautiful in the sound design and the score and the costumes, production design. Everything he does in that respect is top, top shelf. He's doing his thing in like in his room with his toys and does it very well. And then to your as you said, Nosferatu did extremely well at the box office. So, like, if it's not broke, do not fix it. I get it. I just put that on the poster. And I and I and I shall see it for professional reasons. But, you know, it is it if you shant, you shant, you know. So, yeah, you're channeling the werewolves English there. Yeah. OK, nice. Did you have to do Beowulf in Old English? In Old English? Middle English. Sorry. Middle English. Oh, my God. Please don't. The academics don't come for me. That's what you think is going to say. Response. OK, I bring that up because I'm curious if werewolf will get picked up in this in this movie all the time. I'm curious if werewolf will get picked up in this in this movie. movie auction today um we are we can you want to look back at the slate do you want to address your outstanding concern when is this episode coming out july 2nd can i just say a trailer that i did think rocked yeah yeah the weight oh ethan hawke yeah the ethan hawke russell crowe movie yeah yeah sure i have a link to that film right now that looks like treasure of sierra madre that looks awesome it was a sundance film and got very nice reviews out of sundance so you're saying you like the idea of an adventure movie starring ethan hawke yeah hard to believe um i mean well don't spoil what you may want to grab that one you may want to acquire it this this brings up a really great point sean i think you did a wonderful job adding triggers and like you know a different layer of texture to this auction this year but nothing i think you did isolate that how would you describe the modulation and your tone of voice just there deep respect for a fellow podcaster uh and friend sure yeah i'll give him a kidney right now fellow podcaster first friend second it did change the texture of the films that i'm considering drafting because i have things i need i need yes i gotta do some stuff that is true um do you have any any general thoughts on the first half of the movie year and how you both grabbed films because we didn't grab too many movies that have come out already which i find really interesting and i think it's a really good kind of fascinating i was an idiot uh i think i could have well i think i could have chronologically broken the year up a lot more but then i guess it's dependent on you two as well yeah but i have a lot to i still have a like i have three films that need to like perform basically in the second half of the year what do you think well of my feelings or of the i guess i think i did okay and even the the choices that i made that are sort of cringeworthy to myself and to myself you know identity are going to work out for example i got the mandalorian and grogu for $19 is anyone happy with what happened there no but did it meet the box office threshold it did so i'm good and now i can get a little frisky yeah there are upsides and downsides to that if you've never listened to an auction episode before welcome um this is an odd one to start with i would encourage you to go back to january maybe and listen to the first one that we did but um we each attempt to acquire five titles and we have a thousand dollars to spend on those five titles which is an arbitrary number that makes a lot of sense when you really think about it uh that's for the first half and then i don't know if i've yet i've yet to spend a thousand dollars correctly well and the and the money does not roll over or did we decide last time that it could roll over the money does not roll over and that's notable savings for taxpayers okay that's right cr uh amanda spent a thousand dollars last january i spent a thousand dollars and chris somehow has six hundred and seven dollars remaining which will now be dispersed to the masses of this fine country um happy birthday guys i'll do the i'll explain those triggers really quickly first uh and those are new just if people are we did them last year i think as well yeah 2025 is when they came on board but if if people are going to start at the beginning of the auction history things were a lot looser a lot crazier you really you soared so close to the sun and it was beautiful this is a format close to my yeah because it's all speculative and it's all it's all about betting on the future i'm gambling again um 30 seconds per bid which we never abide by but we'll try to do that today uh Movies that were previously auctioned off last year are once again eligible for future auctions. So if you grabbed a movie last year, you can grab it again this year if it hasn't been yet taken. The category triggers are at least two films from the total slate of 10 films across the whole year must gross $100 million domestically. At least one film must receive at least two Oscar nominations. And at least one of your films must hit an 85 Metacritic score. Now, that's very hard to do. Only 13 films released in 2025 did that. No more than two sequels on your slate. And that is where taking something like The Mandalorian and Grogu is a very strategic choice with upsides and downsides. You're almost assured $100 million domestically, but then a sequel is off the board for you. Now you've only got one left. So let's go through our slates from January quickly. Amanda, since you already teased one, why don't you go through yours? So I have Dune Part 3, which I paid $700. $775, sorry. I guess I forgot numbers for a minute there. That was my disclosure day happening. Project Hail Mary for $200. Thank you. Thanks. It was, you know, that was late breaking, but thank you. The Social Reckoning for $1, which means that you guys were just like, you left me hanging. And that's fine. I deserve it. Verity, $5. And Mandalorian and Grogu for $19. Okay. So, so far you've hit what? Did you get any Metacritic? No. None of us have Metacritic yet. So you do yours and then we'll do through all the thresholds we've hit already. Oh, okay. I picked Wuthering Heights for $75 and also talked about my experiences romantically. You did. And how many land acknowledgements have you given since that podcast? Oh, is that what that was? Okay. I'd forgotten. Just count it down for us. I tend to. Let's go night by night. Go to your journal. I tend to. Once I've done one. Somewhere like Southern California is blessed. Oh, you're going regionally. I'm looking forward. I'm possibly going to Florida in September and I can't wait to commune with my seminal brothers. You know, like you've never spread your seed in that part of the land. Think, think really carefully. It's really a good question. I think I actually have. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. When was that? Florida. I was young. I was a young kid. Like six, seven. Yeah. He's been young. I was younger. I'm almost 50. Oh, okay. Are you? Yes. Yeah. What are we doing for five? No one's paying attention to a couple of Miami. The Raleigh Hotel is great time. London was in the mix for five. Oh, Bacchanalian dance party is in the mix. Where would that take place? Los Angeles. I thought we were doing London. I'd like to go to London for my 50th. Yeah. Okay. I'd like to. I'm like, I'm trying to get side of the point where he could. I thought maybe like you were like, I'll just hit three. So, or I guess I could get a babysitter. Yeah, we could, we could talk it out. Okay. I think Knox would like it so much though. You got him so much London stuff now. He knows all the, he wants to go see Big Ben, you know, it's Amanda invited. You're the only person who likes me and you. I got Wuthering Heights, Resident Evil. I took for $72. Devil Wears Prada two for $26. The Adventures of Cliff Booth for $76. And Disclosure. Disclosure Day for $72. I still have $679 million. I think your slate is fascinating. It was interesting. My slate is a bit more lopsided financially. I got The Odyssey for $926. I won't be doing that, that strategy again. I'll just let you know right now. Toy Story for $1. Narnia and the Magician's Nephew for $18. Which has now been punted to 2027 by Netflix. And I read the whole book for nothing, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Because you think you're going to forget everything by the time it comes out? Not ideal when you read it to a four-year-old and then you just got to sit on your hands for a year and wait. And 2027, like, award season 2027? No, it's like February, March. I'm getting nervous. I'm good, yeah. No, it's, it's, that was kind of buried because everyone was like, oh, wow, it's getting a full release and they're doing it. But yeah, it's, it's like early April. It's, alarm bells are going off. The, the, we can talk about this more, over the next nine months, I guess. But Alice watched the Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe adaptation from the 2000s yesterday and enjoyed it. But it's weird. And the Narnia material, having read it, is very strange. And obviously very Christian-coded. February 12th, 27 in theaters. April 2nd on Netflix for Easter. Easter weekend on Netflix. So you can celebrate as a part of your holy week. Yeah, well, we'll see where I'm at on my spiritual journey by then. I got Digger for $5. Yeah. Interesting. And Jack of Spades for $50. A movie that still does not yet have a release date. That's Joel Cohen. That's the Joel Cohen film, which I suspect will be a fall film festival movie, but we just don't know about that. Now, you got Cliff Booth, which slid into that Greta Gerwig Narnia spot. Yeah. And it is opening on 1,000 iMac screens, but I think only has a limited engagement. Are you surprised there has not been a single whisper about, like, man, it's really good? Cliff Booth? Yeah. It's been lock and key. I've not heard a single thing about it. Yeah. Not a single thing. I think that's. Yeah, I mean, I would like to see it. I would like to know more. It seems like it's not going to be at the Venice Film Festival, even though Netflix has. What makes you say that? Was there a report? Yeah, the most recent reports are that it was. It's not on the list. And then, but the Denzel, Robert Pattinson. Here Comes the Flood. Yes, Here Comes the Flood will be one of the Netflix selections at Venice instead. But. That movie is on the board. That's the movie I've been pointing to. I've been pointing to the most this year where I'm like, why is this movie going straight to Netflix? Five. Is it five Pattinsons this year? I believe so. And it'll be the drama, the Odyssey, Dune Part 3, Primetime, and Here Comes the Flood. Quite a year from. That's my guy. Quite a year from the guy. So, threshold check-in, sequel. I've got one. Okay. Which was Toy Story 5. Amanda's got two, so you're capped out. Yep. Chris has got two. You're capped out. Now, you took Dune Part 3 and The Mandalorian and Grogu, both of which are going to cross the $100 million threshold. So, wise choices on your part. If Dune Part 3 doesn't cross $100 million domestically, we've got big problems. CR, you've got Cliff Booth and Devil Wears Prada 2. Now, Devil Wears Prada 2, huge hit. Yeah. Cliff Booth, going to be tough to get to 100. Going to be real tough. So, Disclosure Day is currently at, I believe, $94.8 million domestic box office. And I would like to say this. Yeah. I personally guarantee it's $100 million. If no one goes to see Disclosure Day for the rest of its theatrical run, I will guarantee it. That will wipe me out. I am assuring you that that will wipe me out. You're totally right. But I don't understand. So, are you going to go to a local AMC and donate $5 million on behalf of Disclosure Day? Is that something one can do? I don't know. I don't know. But, like, did you know that Donald Trump could be president? Good point. Let's just try. And those are just similar acts, I would say, in terms of their. I am backstopping Disclosure Day, is what I'm saying. So, I am going to be operating as if it has crossed the. It's going to make six more million dollars, right? I believe so. Yeah, I think so. We didn't really get into where you are on the Alien podcast. On the. Because Van signed up immediately for his. I don't know that he's heard it because he hasn't seen the film. Oh. Yeah. Oh, he hasn't seen the film. He probably didn't listen to that episode. Which I should probably do that for the box office. Yeah, I was going to say. So, that's. Might as well give them $14. That's $15. Yeah, there you go. We're getting there, Steve. So, Sean is considering rededicating his life to the study of alien interactions. That isn't what was said. Okay. What was said was, in the event that this was revealed to be true. Okay. Which is one of the orienting ideas of the movie. I said, I would transform this show into a show about aliens. The big picture. Yes. And what did she want to do? Well, I was. Go to the beach? I don't know. I was surprised by that. Yeah, I mean, that's always the answer. Do you think aliens like the beach? Not exploring. That's a different part in Steven Spielberg's Disclosure Day. M. Night Shyamalan's aliens do not like the water. Yeah. Right? We know that. But that's a different, you know, race of aliens that we know. Did they get in the water in War of the Worlds? I can't remember. Sure, yeah. Because they're out on the boat. Oh, yeah. They're out on the ferry. Yeah. And then the ships come up from underneath the water. That's right. That's a very upsetting scene. Very traumatizing. You're avoiding Disclosure Day. Why? This is just fell right in the middle of the show. This is the middle of a tremendous amount of travel and a tremendous amount of television for me. And I feel really bad about it, especially like when I keep knocking out things like Sheep Detective, which is just like. Did you like that? You know what? I found it quite pleasant to watch. It's great. Yeah. It wasn't unpleasant. Yeah. Those rams, they were pretty funny. Yeah. I feel bad, but I haven't seen it. I will. Which ram is more powerful? The ram that rams Jasper in Jackass Best and Last or the rams from Sheep Detectives? I was going to say, I'm a thousand percent team. I'm a thousand percent team Jackass in terms of the usage of rams in cinema in 2026. Yes. Yeah. With respect to Sheep Detectives, which was quite nice. But I guess my. So wait, do you want to do your triggers of what you did or did you do Amari? Well, for the $100 million threshold, you pointed out that you've already got one and you're about to get a second. Almost certainly Disclosure Day will cross $100 million. And I really. Given the way the winds are blowing, I think Resident Evil has a shot. It's absolutely possible. Amanda has already got two on her slate because she also has Project Hail Mary. which was a very smart pickup. Um, and I've got one right now so i need to get one more choice 35 soaring right past i just did the math and you would need to see disclosure day 300,033 times in order to single-handedly get it over 300,033 times it's three three three three three three dot if anybody back behind the glass would like to do the math on how much time that would take i would love to know how many hours yeah okay i think i think it'd be long dead yeah i would guess before you could clock this you haven't seen disclosure day once you're gonna see it 25,000 times yeah i wish you luck here's the here's the here's the sticky wicket none of us have have unlocked the medicare 85 score this is always the hardest thing to do however i'm almost certainly going to get a hundred million dollar threshold with the odyssey which means all we'll we'll all have that you guys don't have a sequel to play with but i still have a sequel to play with but that's actually fine because sequels very rarely get that 85 threshold anyway so we have a lot of open terrain here so i think what this could be is what are you pumped about what are you most excited about now that you're you're basically like now we're in it for art you know and that's what this whole thing is about anyway many people are saying um has anything gotten to 85 on metacritic this year yes but i don't know about any mainstream so like wide release her and get 85 i would guess it did i would guess it did let's look it up right now you guys can vamp while i look this the other the other complicating thing here is that a number of the films that are more likely to make it to 85 or above were uh screened at the can film festival which means that they are ineligible for two of the three people on this draft i'm gonna i'm gonna talk through that as well you're gonna need you're gonna you've got some shortcuts that's right you have to make good decisions i'll give you a quick list of films that have already crossed it and this is very helpful for you in terms of your your bidding here uh once upon a time in harlem is a documentary that i saw at can blue heron in fact uh has a 92 right now you know the next film with a 92 is ross macleby's remake i don't know if you're familiar with him documentarian who famously um explores his own life through these particular frameworks and i watched this movie this weekend and it is absolutely devastating so i just want to recommend when it comes out in july that people check out remake it's a beautiful um really really sad movie teenage sex and death at camp miasma we've seen a lot of it and i think it's a really good movie and i think it's a really good not eligible to us oh what but what is that's sitting at 91 right now oh good that's a little bit of a red herring because it's not wide release and i do think that that number on that movie because that movie i think is gonna be a little more divisive and we'll come down a bit um father land we saw it can pablo pablo kowski's new movie um silent friend which is a movie uh starring tony lung that came out uh in april sound of falling which was a can 2025 film magellan which uh came out earlier this year pompeii below the clouds our land epic the elvis presley movie blue film which i've not yet seen my father's shadow and coming in at number 15 furious the furious is sitting at 85 which i find to be fascinating um so 85 is a little trickier for us because amanda and i have seen so many movies that we know are going to be critically acclaimed for example fjord or paper tiger sure yeah i've seen josephine out of sundance so those are all off the table for us in addition to the ones we just mentioned how do you how do you feel about how much how much attention do you pay to festival chatter because this is the first year really ever where amanda and i get to be like well we saw the can movies that i mean it's bad for the auction it's it's probably good for me and i do pay attention to it because i think it's i'm i'm i'm kind of fascinated by like what's in it for the movies at this point because it just feels like i don't know if those festivals necessarily are making an impact outside of their bubble but it does feel like if things go bad it starts to go bad it's a moment a snowball rolling downhill of jokers of turkey yeah this is this is you know so it's it feels like i to amanda's point about cliff booth's not going to be at venice i don't know if it's going to be in new york or whatever but like why bother you know like why not just be like yeah one battle after another and cinders skipped festivals all together and that certainly didn't hurt them in the oscar race yeah i was thinking last night as a and this is a completely self-serving uh proposal but like maybe they should think about it someone should buy and take it to venice why why because all they have on their side now is noise and this is not what you wanted to see and like and and they have movie stars and they have a big premiere and this like oh i love this idea i'm unfortunately a little cash poor right now because i have a note against my holding you're down 5.2 million unfortunately so you can't chip in on this yeah let's let's try to unpack a little bit um because you would like to see the film i would like to see the film um on on the lido yes well i'd like to see the film i'm a i'm a fan of the work of luca guadagnino and also free speech and will you be as uh as passionate about jonah hill's cut off being released good point where's that film sure i would like to see that also okay um just making sure yeah you know both sides how many of your pods are considered unreleased just one one episode has never made it off off the computer i was on that one too yeah we shan't speak of it again okay uh that's a little lore drop for you with no lore okay so you want to see it in venice or you want to see it in general but yeah but i just i feel like it's a good launch pad like luca makes it you know it's a home base for him someone should do something it'll be done but but let's just play it out let's say for the sake of this conversation yeah that the film is not strong and not received well critically right and a distributor has paid 30 million dollars or 50 million dollars to take the movie off of amazon's hands and then the movie that was very poorly at the festival is that is that it's chris's point is that dramatically worse for it because that it really i think it wounded after the hunt it getting a very poor reception in venice i do think that's true though i think it also like they knew ahead of time like it was not in competition which is then you just shouldn't be going you shouldn't do it so i guess if venice is not in competition but i i think it's a win for everybody and i do also think that unless the critics are going to be i think critics will probably be softer to this movie given the history and given the fact that it got pulled because of corporate reasons rather than any artistic reasons and would be willing to forgive at faults that maybe they were not willing to forgive and after the hunt also just for the record you know after the hunt they just left us out in the rain for an hour in a thunderstorm which once again i would encourage people to not do that if you want a positive critical reception these things do matter uh and also i liked what i saw in venice it was when i saw the end that i uh maxed out i it it just seems like they don't have a lot of good options and that could be a funny one and i do think that making a spectacle and leaning into this was like canceled from you and taken from you is the only way to get it off the ground okay i agree that's that's just my pitch you won't be contributing to the fund i'm just i'm just stretched in right now understandable uh any other thoughts i mean you know 85 is going to be tough to hit but you know you know that there are some titles out there that are critically there's some uh pretty obvious layups there and i also still will be um auctioning from the heart there's a couple of that's beautiful that no one has seen yet that i am still a big believer in and also for the sake of the auction would love to get them out in open competition okay i think it's safe to say that amanda and i will already have the two two oscar nominations locked up between the odyssey and project tail mary and probably june part three as well i'm not sure if i can say the same yet for your slate do you think that emily blunt will be nominated for disclosure day i think it's possible i would really like for it to happen i think the movie has a very mixed reception and she's universally she does not have a mixed reception yeah but it is a june movie and you got to consider that universal will probably be putting most of its energies behind the odyssey when it comes to this sort of thing i would encourage them to i think people people really like emily blunt it's very obvious that she is very liked within the industry she's very liked she has fans she's made not very many good movies in the last 10 years and it doesn't really matter she's having a huge year because devil wears prada 2 is also massive i think it'd be wise to but it's not a guarantee she got nominated for smashing machine she did not yeah but i do think also they'll they can sit tight for a while get through the odyssey and that's just a very classic put her back on the trail in october november people love to see her it is a really good performance you know and it could also she could be in best actress and odyssey is probably going to have only supporting actress nominations when you're thinking about it in terms of the way they're putting things together so there's a lane interesting i mean we're obviously i already have the movie on my slate but we're having this conversation before having seen the odyssey and hopefully we'll see it soon but i think that dictates a lot of what we're going to see in the movie so i think it's a lot of the thresholds and a lot of the expectations for the rest of the year uh i do not anticipate cliff booth being an oscar movie i don't anticipate resident evil getting the weapons bump it seems far more gory but who knows makeup oh there you go bro makeup is in play uh do they have an intimacy coordinator oscar i get that for weathering heights do you think they did a good job i didn't see weathering heights i just didn't yeah i'm sorry Thank you. and she was like I don't think you'd like it that much I will see it by the time the end of the year it's at home it's on HBO Max I like going to the movie theater it's not that I went to see I enjoyed it with you guys because it's written and directed by a woman is that the issue no no what if I zagged on Wuthering Heights what if I went back to it and I found something in it that's for me that would be great we welcome you with open arms I'll rewatch it okay I'm a little fennel I'm trying to figure it out we know we've heard it I like I like that it exists what is she doing next yeah something crazy right uh yes oh my god what is it I'm real fennel what's she doing next Transformers honestly I would like to see you deal with that and I feel like they would have some pretty close yeah I mean Autobots and Decepticons fucking I would be really intrigued by that next movie did you find it there were rumors of a basic instinct reboot but she shot them down okay I'm totally sure okay okay well whatever she does I'm sure she says no it will be warmly received with an open mind any thoughts before we get into the auction no you ready to do it yeah do you have any procedural thoughts about how we've been doing these over the last four years I honestly can't remember what because they do they've evolved and there are new kind of rules and I didn't remember that we did the clock in January we tried there was a lot of like oh I'll bid one dollar so that I can keep prattling on well yeah but that's part of the fun yeah these are always great to do when I haven't seen you over a weekend so we haven't run through any of our stuff yeah you know what I mean no I'm looking forward to that I said to you guys off mic it was a weekend of extremes and I'm just I'm glad to be back with my bros let's mix it up okay how do we determine who goes first here we go shaking up the dungeons and dragons die for the record Chris Ryan would need to spend 92 years to get that disclosure day money you know what that is producing thank you guys well done should this end math be what starts me down my wellness journey of prolonging my life how is your wellness journey going fine but like what are the focuses these days this is who goes first Chris Ryan is selecting first Sean Fennessy second Amanda third okay so interesting do you want to think about what you're doing or do you want to tell me about your macros I'm trying to live as healthily but also as happily as I can that's it's important to have balance so just kind of like a blue zone diet I think what's hard about weight lifting is you have to be consistent with it and I've been traveling a lot okay and so being consistent with my my lifting has been difficult you don't go to the hotel gym well do you want to come to the hotel gym with me in Toronto oh god in some ways I think that that would give me an incredible insight into who you are we could do one of the videos together would I be spotting you no you would do it too you would also do it like exactly what you do yes we would follow a video and then you know no I'd like to see that happen okay anyway okay yeah it's going okay okay but like you go to Chicago for three days and you're like I'm dying yeah like it's just you leave the little it's true kale cocoon here and you see how the other half lives and you're like god damn these people are so much happier but I ate an entire loaf of bread that's true my first film that I'm going to put up for auction and I'm doing this because I want I want to get everybody involved okay what such an elegant communicator is Tony Gilroy's behemoth okay okay which does not have a date as of yet but he's going to Venice right is it behemoth Venice film festival let's see feels like a telluride movie to me I think it's going to be at festivals this stars Pedro Pascal and Will Arnett who both replaced at various points Oscar Isaac and David Harbour respectively as well as Olivia Wilde it's about a cellist who plays in orchestras for film soundtracks for film scores it's Tony Gilroy's first film theatrical feature that he's directing since the Bourne legacy but I think also notably obviously Michael Clayton it's his first work since Andor and it feels like an incredibly personal and idiosyncratic expression of interest in the cinematic arts but also like a guy at a crossroads I'm really really really excited for it the most notable thing to know about this is apparently nine composers worked on this film I'm looking at that right now among them James Newton Howard and Alan Silvestri two of the more seasoned and accomplished composers so let me ask you this Sean as I bid 30 bucks for this to start with let me ask you this on the time wow when you get a best original original score nomination do you do you think having that many different people working on it makes it more complicated or do you think it's like a layup that this gets a nod 50 dollars I think it depends on how good the movie is I think if the movie doesn't work at all then then you don't want to consider it very much but if it's well reviewed and you've got all of these people that are so renowned it makes it easier and then they'll just cut that puppy into nine ways right I mean I know that casting will be like a big deal when we get to this 70 dollars this is number two on my list so if I could see the duel of the fates here it would be 75 I'll do 90 I could see this being like a nice plank for them to be like let's talk about what an amazing contribution composers have made to cinematic history and to Hollywood at the Oscars I think but then you also have John Williams eligible in the same category and still alive so you're going to give it to Iron Sharpens Iron okay that could be your second Oscar nomination what's going on in House of Dragon 115 115 120 130 135 140 do you want to come to Venice I won't be able to come to Venice I'm sorry what are you doing what do you got going on that week I think I'm potting with you while she's gone and we're talking about Resident Evil for five straight episodes no you're doing on the I'll be Italian but you are joining me for quite a long time in August when she goes away thank you for that let me have my own episode of the big picture if you want one of those August episodes you can take it straight to camera straight to Jack what are you going to do Wuthering Heights rewatch solo 150 honestly if you want to grab an August release and you want to put your arms around it and put the CR touch on it I would be delighted isn't the dog stars perfect Michael Mann but I'm back for that and listen that's Ridley and that's that's my guy Jacob Elordi and Ridley he's very tall we're going to have to rank every Ridley 180 we've never done that before it would be fun if we ranked every Jacob Elordi performance did you watch any of Euphoria no but the important parts got to me you know Behemoth I just I'll be stunned if it's bad stunned I know there is like a little bit duplicity exists right yeah but it's not you know my duplicity he's in the pocket for us go ahead that's a movie that if you do it ten times the nine other times it's better than what we got that's my take we've agreed on that because they were like what movie do you want one of the mailback questions was like what movie would you redo okay and I was like change nothing just try it again I believe in you guys that's your take that's a great take 200 210 this is a Searchlight movie Searchlight famously did not have a film nominated for an best picture last year 230 it broke a 14 year streak I believe for the studio they're betting big on this but as you say the movie does not have a release date I believe production is completed yes I saw that it screened there was a test screening that was received positive feedback 250 from whom where did I read that no who gave the positive feedback the test screening audience was Trump there no I think it was like you know a bunch of people in Covina who got to got to see it yeah what's the number 250 250 for Behemoth with an exclamation point how do you feel about putting punctuation in a film title I'm into it I think it's cool whatever happened to Baby Jane question mark well certainly any film that's a question deserves a question mark not always I mean maybe Disclosure Day would have done even better if they had been like how do you know directed by James L. Brooks does not feature a question right and that worked out it's dangerous do you think Ella McKay would have done better if they put an exclamation point at the end Ella McKay in Tarot Bang you know that would have been that would have been something that would have been a new move Airplane exclamation point 260 270 Mamma Mia exclamation point oh yeah that's a good one 285 Oklahoma exclamation point not a good film no a really really boring film that thing you do exclamation point that's a great one 30 years this year also I gotta yeah rewatchables well I you listen I know you don't pitch things we don't ask you don't mention it we don't ask you know it's you just keep your head down you do the work you hope that the sun shines on you next time you're around Bill you should just hum that wonder song you know just I'm about to win oh 290 300 are we going a little crazy for Behemoth this is a Tony Gilroy podcast okay you guys took you erased me from the Andor conversation because I haven't seen it yet that's fine but I'm sorry I was watching I was watching movies for a movie podcast do you think you'll make time to watch Ollivandor? At some point. point i'd really like to this movie also stars ava victor matthew lillard and margarita levieva and if you know who margarita levieva is you know that's a special currently on cape fear on this podcast we believe that michael clayton is an underrated legal thriller i think i did michael did you ever have a sign like that uh no but 315 320 was it in new york where one of the live shows i drafted michael clayton and then did like the in you know in this house we believe and i guess it was new york where they don't have that many yard signs and people were like what are you talking about and then i had to explain to the entire crowd so there's a thing with the yard signs i like content is it 320 or 350 it's 320 right i'll do i'll do 335 um if i'm able to book tony gilroy to appear on this podcast do you have to be there with me no i mean tony would you like to be there i think that the ringer podcast network presents like so many different opportunities 340 express different parts of themselves you know so like for instance taylor sheridan went on bill's pod last night how'd that feel that felt great i thought that was two leaders talking about how they run organizations you know and how would you describe their leadership styles different no other adjectives i think that bill is a little bit more accessible than taylor yeah from what i can get what's bill's micro strategy macro strategy these days i think he walks in saunas yeah that's true doesn't eat i do know about those 350 um the informant exclamation point one of my favorites yeah that's a great one 375 400 do we think the the titular behemoth is is the man or is it the composition i wonder if it's the the thing that he is currently scoring although i believe this goes to several different parts of his life you know some phases yeah and the storytelling so i've heard edited by john gilroy's brother yep you look at him closely so you can try to secure this one well at a certain point it's not cutting time you know can you illuminate that metaphor for amanda she's learned more about the human body it's a sport i it's one of those things i would say for the record we touched like 45 multiple times 45 multiple times keep it running go 410 let's go um i'll try and do not cutting time before it's a sports phrase but it's not a sports phrase okay so i know why would you cut your nuts well put i don't really know it's like is that what if that's not what a vasectomy is right it is 25 but no you're cutting the vas deferens in a vasectomy that's like inside the nut okay yeah sorry that i know what's up that's exactly right have you have you some might say you cut nuts on a regular basis i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know that's one of your one of your skills 435 435 is there such a thing as a nut tuck sure silence of the lambs no no no no like a plastic surgery procedure 440 oh like get lifted yeah to avoid a bad grandpa situation to avoid a bad grandpa situation why are you looking at me like i don't know i'm just well just tighten it up yeah maybe you don't want it hanging around maybe it's getting in the way uh oh i guess that's true that's not a thing that you guys are worried about it's like bringing the yo-yo back oh like robert evans probably walk the dog and then roll it up yeah uh 450 um i was gonna say robert evans seems like the kind of guy who would have gotten a nut tuck may he rest in peace what what what what do you know about it seems like very delicate construction it seems like very delicate skin penis shaft construction i just said shaft construction i wasn't you extrapolated that out okay because we're talking about surgery on on the genitalia we are yeah yeah so we're talking about something else i never answered your question it's like when somebody performs in the clutch it's like hey man it's not coming time it's time for you to go okay um but i i don't think it's an appropriate phrase and i would not use it in my personal life just on this podcast 500 510 is this the only movie that all three of us really want is it like i can back off and let you guys have it and then i can just take a bunch of stuff for a dollar what we learned last time in the mix because there are no there's there are no production stills there's no trailer for this movie with me today and i don't know why i think your energy is throwing me off but it's also like brilliant like i can't i it's like i feel like i'm getting tanned but i don't know why like you're just radiating today normally like normally you're riding with me is it like like we're later in the is it because you're on your second podcast oh no no no no i you can't you can't slow me down no i know at bats i'm fine okay interesting 550 560 did you think that we're gonna be up in the fives for behemoth for tony gilroy i'm really glad you started here this was good you brought a good energy it's a movie we're excited about but i i was saying there's no production still there's no trailer there's no release date there's nothing we don't know anything about this movie that that is what we do here on the action we believe you know it's fair it's a movie by tony gilroy about the beauty of music and the beauty of movie music we don't we don't know if that's what it's about what do you think it's about i don't know godzilla the cure for baldness 565 that's what duplicity is about oh right okay sorry great idea great idea yeah i was like i took that personally gotta go back and look at duplicity yeah that's the very powerful corporate product that the espionage is working on can we talk about landon donovan's hair he's going through a journey with his hair and he's documented it yeah he's got documented it yeah he had like transplants that didn't take okay or plugs or something and then this is a wig that he's wearing okay yeah yeah it looked like i mean it looked like documented he's like this is a wig i i need to do 575 to feel good that's good really yeah honestly i respect it i do too who gives a fuck anymore 580 if that makes you feel better just do it right agree not hurting anybody yeah i like cats i'll tell you what he scored one of the most electrifying goals of all time so he'll always have that against algeria i remember it vividly i was sitting at my desk while i was working at e-music and everyone was pretending to work that day and they were all watching the game on their computers and everyone collectively stood up and shouted yes like these were like running out of this is the united nation klinsman sliding out of the office is wonderful uh chris you're i'm gonna i'm i'm i'm gonna do 590 okay stay in it i'm in it i'm in it emotionally i'm in it i just this is between the two of you economically i could honestly go up to 995 and then i can get a bunch of movies that you guys have already seen for like a dollar yeah but that seems you gotta get that yeah you could do that you could do that you could do that so maybe we should make you do that you can make me do it i'll go to 595 i guess as i say this is 600 600 yeah what do you so what trigger do you think this is gonna cross uh personal happiness which you know is it's sort of one that matters i was excited about project hill mary and i liked it i'm looking forward to dune part three but like i said like my my self-respect when i look at this i'm not i i wasn't painting you want to love your entirely my picture yeah you want to love your slate i know i know what you mean it's 615 my slate is a mess right now pedro pascal i have some questions leading man i have some questions fantastic for the first steps was not it that was not it you will be in doomsday so was that his fault because that character is just like i'm too smart to live i think there's an opportunity for a great reed richards and he's miscast i think he's very also he's wanna he's the last girl he's the smartest guy in the world yeah but it's like i'm too smart for my own i like i can't if you're so smart figure out how to manage it i relate to reed richards yeah i bet you do um i it's just the burden of being smart i'm too smart for my own of of of greatness uh what did you say who just got this for 615 as we approach 40 seconds no one did okay 620 uh 625 i think amanda really wants it so what are you gonna do with that 650 best and final 655 we've done this before it's too early to do best and final at 650 that's nothing that's peanuts yeah for behemoth it's gonna probably get like an 80 metacritic not get nominated and make 12 million dollars but there'll be lawn signs they're strewn throughout los angeles how many selfies i'm gonna take outside the premiere and send to you like it's me on the lino so that's great me and him will be podcasting about resident evil it's based in blood 660 i'm out 665 i'm out sure you are i rolled the ball down the hill remember when he was in triple frontier that was great pedro yeah he was playing the fifth lead well but the magic happened tim simons recently watched triple frontier and then had the temerity to tell me that he didn't think it was good i don't know whether he wanted that aired on a podcast man and he and he goes with his own yeah netflix's tim simons said that i'm like did i get him in trouble uh it's at 660 665 i've got it no you don't what do you mean it would be really amanda has six see the a a is for 665 i didn't know that's what that was for Did you think that was four? 670. I don't know. Can you read the A? I've been spending. I can read. Thank you. I'm able to read. You read The Lion, the Witch, and the Rook. Listen, I was doing it. No, I read The Magician's Nephew. It was more of a checking in on the cliff and the eyesight. 675. Oh, you know, actually, it hit me last week. Yeah, I know. I'm dead serious. I'm dead serious. That's why I'm asking you. You have to get your context changed? Well, I don't know, but I looked down at a phone after getting out of a movie, and I was like, oh, no, it's over. No, it's done. Do you know where I'm at? Tell us. I have TV glasses, which are different than these glasses that I use to watch TV because I can't have my. Because the shit looks so bad? Yeah. Yeah. Because the TV shows, they look terrible. So you've got to put on special glasses to make them look better because they're TV because they suck. That's good. I'm just going to fucking stop buying DVDs if you keep talking like that, you know? You're only hurting yourself. I have to wear different glasses to watch television. I did actually get a separate prescription to wear over my contacts to help screens look better. Yeah, but then I didn't. $6.85. And they're just to make. I mean, they're effectively reading glasses that go with my contacts because I have famously incredibly bad vision. But then I actually need different. Most of the time when I'm reading, I'm not wearing my contacts. I'm wearing my glasses. So we didn't do it right. I got to start over. But the cliff is real. A for $6.85. So I'm. Just to be clear, I'm not there yet because I'm not 74. I'm out. You're out? Okay. Okay. Well, it's you and me. Seven. Seven, 15. I feel like you want it more than me. And I love Tony Gilroy. Well, I just. Come on. I'm going to tell Tony this when he's on the show. I'm going to say, Chris sat here. Your friend, Chris Ryan, sat here. He would not understand anything about what just transpired. It doesn't matter. I'll explain the whole thing. He read every book there is about revolution and he would be like, what you guys are doing contributes nothing. If I have to spend the entire 37 minutes allotted from Tony Gilroy's publicist, explaining this movie auction, I will do it. And now I've betrayed him? Yes. Okay. If I can get to that bottom line. Congratulations to you. Happy birthday. Thanks so much. Thank you. Behemoth? Yeah. Sold. Yes. To Amanda Dobbins for $715. We should introduce a gavel. I don't know why I didn't think of that. Can we get some sort of sonic effect? You should punch it in. No, I mean. Damn, son. I actually meant to talk to you, Chris. I need to record some stuff with you in the near future. Okay. We can get that going. Some drops. Damn, son. Where'd you find Behemoth? Uh, okay. Damn, son. They replaced Oscar Isaac. Do you think, sight unseen, it would have been better with Isaac over Pascal? I think Tony knows best. Wow. Yeah. However that worked out. You just bent the knee, even though you wouldn't take the film. What? I've done the work, man. You have. You have. I've shouted from every sidewalk. Have you heard the good news about Andor? You have. You have. Uh, okay. Who? Do I put it up next or Amanda? Sean is up next. Sorry, I assume you're not going to be nominating films that you can't bid on. That doesn't make much sense. No, that's, that's verboten in this game. If you've seen the movie, you can't put the movie up for auction. Nor can you bid on it. I guess not. Yeah. Because you can't win it. Right? So that takes some critical Oscar films off the board. It does. I haven't seen, actually, at this time of the year, usually, I've seen at least a couple of the bigger releases. I haven't seen any of the bigger releases this year. Mm-hmm. I'm in the dark. So no, no toe-dip screenings for me on any of this stuff. I'll tell you what I'm really excited about is Primetime. Of course. That's what I'm going to put up. Okay. Because I might need some more Oscar nominations. I'm quite curious about how this movie will be received. This is the feature fictional debut from Lance Oppenheim, documentarian, and it is a, I guess it's a, it's a, it's a portrait of To Catch a Predator. The Predator? And Chris Hansen? Chris Hansen. Yeah. The movie stars Robert Pattinson. Sounds like it'll be the coup de grace in his year. Mm-hmm. Buzz is? Best actor awaits him? This nomination? I'd be happy. We don't know anything. We've just seen a one-minute teaser of this movie. That's it. A24 movie coming out, I guess, in the fall. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but can you start getting nominated for multiple films? Like, can Robert Pattinson just be nominated for, like, being good this year? No. I think you can be nominated in the same category twice. That's what the rule is now. So for example. Okay. And Hathaway. So Robert Pattinson could get nominated for the Odyssey and the Drama as supporting actor. Correct. That is the, I believe that was the rule change. You can check me on that, Amanda. But I. Yes. Actors may be nominated for multiple performances in the same category if those performances place in the top five votes. Which is something I'm not totally sure I realized couldn't happen before. But that is true now. Is it? Now, does that nomination then only take one slot? No. No. It takes two slots. Oh. Okay. So it's like, I mean, it's like a Soderbergh directing thing. I see. So it used to be allowed, or it has been allowed in directing, but I guess was not allowed in acting. Okay. Was he nominated twice for Brockovich and Traffic? Traffic. Yeah. Okay. Interesting. I'll bid $10 for this movie. I don't know a lot about this movie. I know Lance a little bit. He's doing another voice. He's doing, he's doing Chris Hansen, presumably. Yeah. Yeah. One of my favorite docs from last year was this movie Predators, which was a kind of an investigation of what To Catch a Predator was. And it'll be interesting to see how this movie stacks up to it. $20. $25. Oh. I'll say $35. Are you looking forward to this? Did you ever, have you ever watched To Catch a Predator? I'm sure that I did at some point at an inappropriate age as a child when like the news, news magazines were big in our house. Yeah. They were always on, freaking me out. But I, I have not seen the documentary. I'm just, I'm an R-Pats fan forever and ever. Phoebe Bridgers is acting in this film. Is that a fact? According to the Wikipedia page. Damn, Phoebe. Merit Weaver's in this. Yeah. Skylar Gazondo is in this. That's true. Big fan. Jimmy Olsen. Just says that. Yeah. Phoebe Bridgers. Okay. I mean. You know, let me have her for 35 bucks. $50. $50. $50. $50. $50. $50. Yeah. Sperm World. Sperm World. Also an incredible movie. What's Sperm World? It's Lance. One of Lance's documentaries. 55. All of Lance Oppenheim's documentaries are worth your time. I thought you were still talking about testicle plastic surgery. Left it vague on purpose. 65. There's part of me that thinks this is going to be a Telluride and there's part of me that thinks this is going into that Marty. We're not even announcing it for New York Film Festival and could premiere there. Yeah. 2024 now has that spot, you think? I think so. What else do they have coming out in the fall that could be dividing their attention? Right? Not much. No other Oscar jams? I don't believe so. Just taking all that, getting ready for Elden Ring. Do you know when Elden Ring is dated for? It better be November 17th, 2027. It's March 3rd, 2028. Imagine if I turned 50 and fucking Elden Ring dropped. It would be like, "Oh, I'm going to be a movie star." I would be like, "Oh, I'm going to be a movie star." You know when Elden Ring is dated for? You know when Elden Ring is dated for? We just saw it 300,000 times. Yeah. I'll do 75. Have you played Elden Ring? No. No. No. But I have watched dudes play it. Say more. Go ahead. On video, on Instagram. Okay. Okay. So it's being served to you as a live stream, like an edited down live stream? It's funny people playing Elden Ring and being like, "Holy shit." Like, you know, like- Damn, son. I misspoke about A24. You got two movies that they may be spending some time on. One is Club Kid, which they picked up at Cannes, which is also not eligible to us right now. Yeah. You shouldn't think about that. And also the debut, Jesse Eisenberg's musical. Go Backstreet Drive, G. I'm sorry that I'm trying to fucking help you. No. I'm trying to help you. I wonder if Chris will like Club Kid. What happened here? I like Club Kid. I am a Club Kid. Are you? Well- In a way. Yeah. I've been in the clubs. Okay. In these clubs? In this film? Was he at Limelight and shit? Nope. No. It's before. It starts when you left New York. So you're not of that time period. I laid the groundwork for you. It's like queer dance clubs in circa 2013. I think Sean is. Yeah. I got it. I got it for 75. Congratulations. Okay, great. I'm delighted to have this. Okay. I don't know if this is touching 85, but I do think it's. It's going to be. It's a movie I'm excited about. How come the nickname, A Mandalorian, hasn't really stuck? Because you're not. How come I haven't taught your son that yet? I don't. It's a great question. Wow. He does know my name is Amanda. I know. I would say he's- Well, no. Your name is Amando. Amando. Oh, Amando. That's. Yeah. I mean, you could do it. You can try. I think anytime you ever speak on Star Wars going forward, the bottom cryon should just be like, "A Mandalorian." A Mandalorian? Yeah. Hi. What happened with that movie, Sucking? Did we get to the bottom of that? That's another one that you haven't seen, right? Happily. Really? Yeah. And you said you would not see it. I stuck to my guns. We never talked about the polite texts that you sent me, like the Friday of Memorial Day weekend being like, "Hey, we changed our travel plans, so I'm sorry, I'm not going to be able to come see Mandalorian and Grogu with your son." Yeah. And you knew that I was traveling and this wasn't going to be pissed at you. But, you know, you left us hanging there. I'm sorry. You know, I'm not a parent. I don't know what these things mean. I had a conversation with Alice yesterday at dinner. Oh, yeah. Because we watched Ghostbusters over the weekend. The way you're talking, it's almost like the way you talk about when you have like a cool drink with a guy in the industry. Yeah. I was talking with Alice about where Star Wars goes from here. Well, she said something really interesting about Star Wars. What? She said something really interesting about Star Wars. Yeah. What? where "Star Wars" goes from here. - Well, she said something really interesting interesting to me that it's something i felt when we watched that movie the mandalorian grogu because we watched ghostbusters and she was like that wasn't scary at all that was so fun and she was she you know there's some scary stuff in ghostbusters it's it's it's mostly comic but i don't know the dogs the librarian the librarian in the beginning is very scary um she loves tape up marshmallow man she likes yeah of course she when slimer happened she said that ghost is my favorite um same which is you know we all agree about slimer he's a wonderful guy uh man or woman slimer do we know i think uh non-binary non-binary yeah primarily interested in food right yeah that's right not a sexual being really at all yeah i mean you don't know like myself don't exclude slimer you know from the sexual yeah exactly why are you being so sex active how would slimer do if he were dropped into the film the invite what role would he how would he do with the menu yeah he would slime you so we're talking about the movie she's she loved it she wants to watch ghostbusters too she wants to watch more spooky movies she knows dad knows dad likes spooky movies so we're talking about that and eileen is asking her like has a movie ever scared you or there's ever a time when you were upset watching the movie because she's really been begging for jaws and we're trying to figure out what is the limit of something and she was like mandalorian grogu that was the time when i was most scared because there was the most violent stuff happening the most fighting and and that was the thing that and i felt that watching the movie i was in this movie is really yeah chaotic and intense and not kid friendly even though it's marketed directly at kids and we talked about it a little bit on our episode i was very nervous when we saw the early footage because i was like my four-year-old knows about this movie and this seems like really you know just way too many blasters and or guns and you know yucky and he was just so you know smooth-brained about the experience that it turned out to be okay i don't think he remembers anything of it which is depressing in its own way yeah but yeah i i found it pretty gnarly i did ask him what his favorite star wars film was and he said mandalorian oh okay yeah when i had him rank them okay what was number two i think it was like one of the sequels he i mean he likes phantom menace because he likes i think it was phantom menace i think also i did this with alice she also had like she was like rise of skywalker is elite because she loves ray yeah yeah they can't be trusted did you select a film yet not to cut off oh no no so i'm gonna do uh wild horse 9 20 bucks this is the new martin mcdonough starring john malkovich sam rockwell um now's your time chris ryan 50 bucks yeah i'm eyeballing buscemi supporting actor okay this intriguing been a while we want that for him we do not had him in our on our screens consistently for a long time love and we just sang his praises on the domestic disturbance we sure did he's the best part of where would we be so uh this is basically in baruch set on easter island with sam rockwell and john malkovich as hitmen looking to upend government seemingly i'll do 60 and stupid shimmy is their handler and this looks really fucking funny and a return to old school mcdonough i'll do 75 i feel like banshees is way underrated it is and it was not late stage covid it would have a different reputation was that what was the release for that was that on it was on hbo max after like three weeks yeah that's right because it was 2022 right this is a real inside baseball but i i think i've said this to you guys in the past i remember the performance of that episode being like really big and i was like that's weird this is a small two-hander set on ireland but it was because everybody watched it at home at the same time and that was such a unique thing that was happening in the movie culture kerry condon erasure god bless her of course there goes that dream um what's wrong with the dream that's what he says in the film oh i thought you're like the dream of barry no that's my favorite moment we're still writing it he's opening his he was opening his wrist to her and he's saying you know could we ever i don't quite understand what's going on i know he's playing ringo and he seems like a lovely guy i don't know what happened where he played tommy shelby's son 90 bucks in a movie and now is not doing it going forward who barry keoghan played tommy shelby and peaky blunders his son and we saw that yeah but now there's another show that's gonna i think jamie bell is taking over the part oh and then it's just like a recasting it just feels like very much like he is not paddington three in batman 2 i don't think he is well that's just that's tough could have been tommy shelby and batman joker and you're not i'll be honest i didn't really appreciate what he was doing crime 101 either oh i did yeah well he didn't have much to do i thought he was i thought he was doing way too much operating on a different wavelength from everybody and he needed to settle down a little bit are you gonna let him have this no 110 okay he distracted me mcdonough i love him i love his work i have such an uncomplicated relationship with his work i think he is truly one of the great writers billboards billboards time to revisit i'm a big fan i i'm i really think it's good and i think it's i think what it's accused of is a misunderstanding of the movie um and i know a lot of people disagree performance is great i would encourage people to revisit the movie yeah it's really funny it was it fell a little bit victim to the moment i also like seven psychopaths i do too i so i've heard that this movie is more like seven psychopaths than it is like banshees okay that it is a little bit more of a hyper violent absurdist comedy than it is a sort of mournful treatise on relationships and friendship like they're they're um moving the cursor around the clock in a way that suggests me that they want you to know you guys have microphones yeah i have you want me to speak up i have this film so here's here's a great procedure yeah chris has it here's a great procedural question who's manning the dock and who's made on the clock the tag team effort back here i'm on the clock lucas is on the dock that's beautiful okay clock dockers that's it sounds like a martin mcdonough film are we koreans return so are we doing the turn do i have another one no i guess we could yeah i thought we reset do we not reset i honestly don't remember reset i don't remember that you say i also don't care with a new title in snake fashion there you go stand corrected to go for it okay stand corrected it's international we each have a title right now that was in march and you guys said nothing what do you want me to say on that day yeah i want you to be creative i want you to figure i know i just i want nothing to do with it i want you to say i went to the ai conference instead of you which is a real thing that happened do you did not get the oh so only the women got the ai women's month invites at spotify that was real we like to celebrate women's history month which is the email you got which is yes i'm not kidding in march it's march right we got like we got invited to several like women in ai conferences but the men don't get invited to that wow why would i be invited to that i'd like to meet some women in ai trying to get like paul schrader when you say that you mean ai women yeah like i'd like to get 90s sharon stone to talk to me about like the sixers you know i'm still not understanding you're saying you want a woman who's composed of ai like an ai named sharon who's like chatting with me okay she's just like what do you think we should do with mb i gotta tell you this can be done quite easily i know so what are you waiting for you should be charting this yeah i was gonna say why are you giving that away for free i think i have a big future in ai okay how so i just think i have a lot of ideas for it okay what are your thoughts you decline this conference never multiple conferences just so you know because it's a whole month so they were offering us lots of opportunities is there a male voice that you would want in your life that could be generated by ai no i would just i would want it to silence the other man you know what i mean it's just a little bit like i'm like i i hear enough right you want skynet for male voices okay thank you you wouldn't want jacob lordy to like call you in the morning and be like i had gals i don't want any you um no i i would i think that that i would feel uncomfortable why does he talk like paul hogan he's australian right that's all ai this is a ai uh he's not interested in ai he'd rather be at the beach getting sunburned reading a novel jacob but wait until somebody backs up the brink's truck to his house and they're like please be our ai voice consultant here's 85 million dollars because that keeps happening people are just like absolutely it really is true sure yeah i've been i've been i've been asking amanda off mike yes how much money what it would cost to sell her soul at this point i think it's bad brand management i think that you because at this point if you're taking the money it's then you're stuck to it and i like obviously the ai or stuck to that price point no you're stuck to ai question and to like a specific generation of ai is five million dollars in the whole thing that's that's turning and obviously i think the technology of like computers helping us and like computers doing math for us and whatever else they're doing with it is going to continue but i do sort of feel i do feel that big ai is in a like kind of a bubble phase right now and they aren't figuring everything out and if you're stuck and some that if like if it's pets.com but it didn't really matter to like matt demon with crypto.com right It didn't stick to him. That's true, it didn't stick to him, but it did, where's your girl? Brie Larson? No, no, no, what's the. That's who you think of when someone says your girl? Who's the meme that he was going to propose to? No, I thought she did a crypto ad. We just got a real insight into your mind. Oh, hop to a girl! Hop to a girl! Hop to a girl! Hayley Welch? That's. A lot just happened. If you told me. Hold on, slow down, slow down. There's not even a film on the board right now. I thought, also, I'll tell you, you want me to put one on? I will do the film that I'm mad. The only one thing that's making me mad about my vacation dates, End of Oak Street. Oh, yeah. 15 bucks. That's the only reason you're mad about your vacation. I'm not mad about my vacation dates. I'm going to have a fucking amazing time. Thanks for filling in. But that is one that was dated after. I thought those two weeks in August were clear, and. That's the CR special. I would enjoy it. So, yeah, so 15 bucks, End of Oak Street. Okay. You suggested. Yeah. your girl to Chris Ryan, and he said Brie Larson. Now, I don't know why he didn't say Phoebe Riley. He didn't say. 25 bucks. 25 bucks. I don't. Is that even an actress you care about? No, I thought she. Because she's had, like, an interesting, like. 35 bucks. She's dipped her toe into a lot of pools over the last 10 years or so. 40? Since. You mean literally? No, she's, like, a YouTube content creator. She did, like, mental health awareness. But then she stepped back, remember? $50. I'm really excited about this movie. 55. But she, like. She made an announcement. She made an announcement that she was no longer. She was taking a break from Instagram and from creating. I know because Sean sent it to me. So maybe you're the one who's interested in Brie Larson. Yeah, I was going to say, you have a rival. She's just following the industry. If you told me. If you told me that Brie Larson was playing Hawk Tua. 60. in A Life Of, like, I would believe it. Oh. You know? I. You could see it. Right. So I have. Someone says your girl. Yeah. you think Brie Larson, we all think Hawk Tua. What do you think that tells you about you? That obviously, like, I see myself differently than the way everybody else sees me. Who would your girl be? It's your girl. You think what? I think I would be associated probably most specifically with either Chastain or Anne Hathaway. Yeah. Those are the two gals who I pretty consistently am like, I like what they're up to. I like what they're doing. Right? Is that fair to say? Yeah, that's what I would go with. Probably some others on the board. You know, they're really more my age. Unlike Hawk Tua, you know, she's 27. But Brie Larson is in the. 75. Okay. You're squinting in a way that makes me nervous about your eyesight as well. Oh, I can't see anything. I just actually don't know what movie we're bidding on. I'm just trying to keep it going. This is a dinosaur movie? This is the end of Oak Street. This is David Robert Mitchell's. Starring his girl, Anne Hathaway. I think this looks wonderful. And your guy. I think its long delay is a little bit troubling. Although maybe they were trying to get the VFX dialed. I don't know what of our triggers it works for for me. It's hard for me to imagine making $100 million, but I've been wrong before. I agree. It's a little bit of a risky venture. $85. I just love the idea of this movie existing. The episode that I want to do around this movie is Twilight Zone movies. I love Twilight Zone premises in movies where super high concept, extravagant, more than likely metaphorical, allegorical ideas. Maybe this isn't an allegory movie, but I suspect it is because it's from David Robert Mitchell who made It Follows, who made Under the Silver Lake. He works with big names. Ewan McGregor, would you say you like him as a leading man now? I think putting him on the spot. What do you think, Amanda? I'm trying to think of what he's done. He did A Season of Sleep. He was the lead. He did A Season of Fargo where he played twins. He was good in that. He's really good in Trainspotting 2. I did not care for Obi-Wan Kenobi. Neither did I. I'll say $105. I'm stoked for this movie. I hope it's good. $120. I need a movie. Gotta get some movies. This also raises a point I made on the Blank Check Jurassic Park episode which is if you go back and you look at the history of movies, especially movies since Jurassic Park, there are very few dinosaur movies. I'm very curious to see if the dinosaurs in this film are drastically different than the Jurassic World rebirth movie. Like, where are we at? How shared is that dinosaur tech? I was watching a movie Alice watched asked to watch the Jurassic Park trailer and we watched it and I was just marveling just watching the trailer and being like this is 32 years 33 years ago. Yeah. 130. And it's still that combination of CGI and the practical you know, the the models that they built is so good. But they've not really iterated on it that much in our dinosaur movies. Right? I mean, there's can you name 10 dinosaur movies off the top of your head made since 1990? No. That's because you guys don't remember any of the Jurassic movies besides Jurassic Park. Set those aside. Name five. Set aside to the Jurassic movies. Ask me a single question about Jurassic. Anything about Jurassic World or Jurassic Park. Okay. What is the current geopolitical status of the dinosaurs in this franchise? Where are they living? What are they doing? They're stateless creatures. Are they not? I think that's right. They're without nation. Yeah. Yeah. And without ambassadorship. Okay. Did Marshall make it through that movie or no? I mean, no political asylum. I know. Yeah. These dinosaurs. Who's looking after them? No one. I'll tell you why. 165. That's not true. Jonathan Bailey. I was actually never going to have something really serious. Jonathan Bailey. Oh. Okay. I can't do it here. No, there's actually meaningful consequences in the world and I'm not going to make a joke about it. Jonathan Bailey, he died, right? No. No. No one dies. He was spontaneously combusted at the end of the movie. No one dies in the Jurassic world. That's part of the problem with the movie. You guys love that movie. Doesn't Marshall do battle with like a dinosaur with like a flare? Yeah, they all because land, air, and sea, you know? Yeah, he survives. He survives at the end. Real like should have killed Chewie vibes in that movie. Like we got to bring him all back for the sequel. Well. What will the sequel of that movie happen? We're at 30 seconds. 175. Yeah, it will. With ScarJo and Marshall and Jonathan Bailey? I don't think ScarJo's doing 45 other franchises. She's fucking cooking. Yeah. What's next on the docket for her? Well, it's Ari Aster, Batman, and Exorcist. Oh, man. That's fucking awesome. She, I'm sorry to say, she's the chosen one. That's. Why are you sorry to her about it? Because she's mixed on ScarJo. I admire her and I like some of her films and sometimes I'm like, is this acting? It would be great if she was still. It's just one woman's opinion. If it was all print and Amanda just has like her. That's what they said about Elizabeth Taylor. That's true. Her author photo was just like, and it was like skeptical with a C about ScarJo. And it's just like one lady's opinion. It's just like, are we sure she's going to let me have this one? Yeah. Yeah? No. 200. Oh, shoot. Well, is that it? I think she's good. I think sometimes she's not used the way I, you know, would. Wait, Ari Aster, Batman, Paper Tiger. Paper Tiger. And Exorcist. And that's. Yeah. That's the balance. That's the balance we're looking for. That is still from Exorcist today and I was like. James Gray, Ari Aster, superhero movie. And what's the other one that I'm forgetting? Exorcist. I hope that Exorcist movie is good. What's the superhero movie? She plays. Who is Gilda Dent? Well, we don't know. Who is Gilda Dent? Harvey Dent's wife. Oh, brother. Well, what are her powers? We're at 30 seconds again. She's the wife of the DA. She's the wife again? But I think she does. We got to stop making ScarJo the wife. She does some bad stuff or some mixed stuff. The thing you don't know is that this movie is not called The Batman 2. It's called Gilda Dent and it's a character piece about what happens when your husband's face gets burned off. But starring ScarJo, that I would be into. Is she not named after the titular Gilda Dent? Gilda from the film Gilda? The titular Gilda? I don't know. Okay. I don't know. 235. I want to clarify something quickly. Chris, you said you need to get some movies on the board. I know I have one. Okay. I just want to make sure. I'm aware. I'm sorry. We all have one movie. You don't have to get greedy. I know. This doesn't do anything for my triggers. I can tell. It's not fun to see him reigned in like this. Really? Yeah. The horse? It's like being at the zoo. We got to start getting that lighthouse up for Brie Larson again. How do we get back to that? I'm just, I'm playing, I mean, I guess like this is, this game is turning out the way you intended because you gave me rules that I'm following. Well, I liked how you played last time. Now, you probably should have spent some more money, but your selections were interesting. Amanda and I, we were like, Dune, Odyssey. Yeah, we were being boring. We were going big. Yeah. You were being more measured. I was the film knower. No, that wasn't what I said. You were the game knower. Yeah. Yeah. This episode is presented by, State Farm. You know the feeling. Long day, good meal, you finally sit down and now you're just staring at your screen. Slasher, rom-com, period drama, psychological thriller, but some decisions don't have to be that hard. 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How will you spend them? These are two of my most anticipated movies, so I'm really happy with what I've gotten so far, even though I don't know if they do really anything for me. Wild Horse Nine off the board. What's another movie that we're really anticipating? Hmm. That you haven't seen. Hmm. There's one fun one that you could do. Hunger Games, Sunrise on Reef. I'm fucking pumped for that. Okay, here's one. I got one. Jesse Plemons and Kieran Culkin. I mean, I do like Jesse Plemons. Oh, I think that trailer's excellent. Yeah. Yeah, I'm Francis Lawrence. That first film in this reboot, or the sequels, Interminable. The Rachel Zegler, like, hey, yeah, no. That was the longest film I've ever seen. The Ballad of the Songs and Snakes. I watched that in a hotel room with my wife and we both felt like we were going back in time. Like, we were like, this is the fucking crazy, crazy longest movie we've ever seen. I like Rachel Zegler a lot. I don't know why she was asked to perform Lumineers songs for three hours. Completely agree. I also, despite the title being The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes, was not prepared for the level of performance and singing. A lot of songbirding. Yeah. This one does look cool. Yeah. That's not what I'm putting up. I'm putting up. Do it. What was I going to put up? Whale Fall. Good. See, that's when. $10. Yeah, there we go. When she said it, I knew exactly what she meant. You know about Whale Fall? You're out on this? $85. If you don't. Are you fucking. Do you know about Whale Fall? Listen, listen. I invented Whale Fall. It's in the sea with Austin Abrams. They don't make Whale Fall without my fucking say-so. I greenlit that movie. I greenlit it. I was watching Paper Towns. I was watching Austin Abrams on Euphoria. Yeah. So I'm taking this one. Okay. This is your boy's movie. This film was based on a novel written by Daniel Krauss who invented this story. They're all the same novel, man. And you had nothing to do with greenlighting the movie. It's all Melville. Let's go. Okay. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Well, have you read the book? He gets eaten in Melville? Moby Dick? I read Moby Dick. Did you? Yeah. To completion? Yeah. Let's relax. You and Brie Larson? I'll say $100. I. First of all, just. $110. Just this whole show putting its arms around Whale Fall. Well, we can't do better. We can't do better. I mean, it's entirely. $150. It's entirely possible that this movie is honestly unintelligible. That it is so dark that the whale's stomach is not supporting. I think that you. What are you going to do if when he goes into the whale's stomach. Yeah. It's all flashbacks of his trauma. I'll be really upset. I will feel betrayed. $175. Because I do feel like I've put in a lot of work. There's actually. So, in my. I have a very clear mental image. And I'm like, I'm already priced out of this. So. But I'm really excited for this movie. I have a really clear mental image in my mind of what it looks like inside the whale. Because you guys saw a little bit of footage. No. We didn't see. We have not seen this. You're allowed to draft it. Nobody's. Yeah. It was about five years ago. No, but it's not. It's not based on. I'm trying to figure out, like, what children's book or what illustration of, like, the book of Jonah or wherever the Jonah story is. And Jonah and the whale, yeah. Well, I know, but there's. But it's a very, very specific. It's a very specific image where it's a large. It's in brown inside the whale. And there's. Are you sure you're not thinking of Pinocchio? A small window. No. And then there's, like, a little stool. And then Jonah's in there. That is in this movie? No. That's what I. My head. Oh, okay. 230. You know, if I were storyboarding it, it's just like a. 230. You know, a play set. And it's like a little stool and it's all brown. And then he's just hanging around. But I don't actually know what happens inside the whale. Many compartments. When does this movie drop? In a whale's stomach. Uh, September or October 9th? I think it's October. October 9th. Uh, what are we going to do when we're here with tears in our eyes talking about how whale fall is propelling Hollywood to new heights? We're going to be like, we told you so. We told people there's a movie where a guy gets swallowed by a whale and the people said yes. And the people said, I. I know you don't want to relive this too much, but the image of Larry David. We're at 30 seconds. To 35. The image of Larry David in game four of the NBA finals when Josh Hart. Yeah, you're right. I am done reliving this. Well, I'm not. Well, no, it's a negative moment. It's a negative moment. Josh Hart misses the layup on the breakaway in the fourth quarter and there's a wide shot of Larry David in the front row and he starts to fall down and he does the full. And he's looking for someone to brace him while he's falling. 240. That was me when the whale fall footage hit at CinemaCon. I was just like, I didn't know how much I needed this. Yeah. So. And it was during an otherwise fairly grim Disney presentation. Yes. And it was before they brought our DJ. Did you see Brian Duffield? Brian Duffield, who made WhaleFall, is now writing the Alien sequel. Very encouraging. Yeah. Very encouraging. Ridley meddling. That's what they say. Ridley's meddling with the script. Ridley's meddling with the franchise is the word on the street. Is that Fetty Alvarez? That was the word on the street on Romulus as well. And then, so Fetty left and then it was going to be the evil dead burn guy was going to make it. 260. Yeah, there we go. Sorry. Sebastian. I give you power of attorney. If I get too deep into him. Thank you so much. We're back. Sebastian Banachuk, yeah. He was going to make it and then that fell apart and the word on the street. What did you say? What? I gave her power of attorney to bid for me while I was talking to you about the future of Alien. And now we'll then go over here. No. That's not what I meant. 265. I'm maxed out. I don't have Claude with me. I can't talk to you about Alien and bid on this fucking movie. You mean you don't have Brie with you? Yeah. Sharon. I want Sharon still. Oh, Sharon. Excuse me. Yeah. Uh, 275. Do you like Sharon Stone's voice? Yeah. Yeah. What's wrong with it? Why do you have against women's voices? Nothing. I'm surrounded by them at all times. What. 280. What is the voice you want to hear? 285. No, I want. Emma Thompson? I mean, that is a nice voice, but I don't really. I don't want to hear. I want silence is what I want. You do? Yeah, we had a. As I said, it was a. It was an up and down weekend. It was a life lived at the extremes this weekend for me and also for my husband. And so we were at dinner with the kids on Saturday night. You guys were mountain climbing or something? What happened? No, we were just trying to live life. That's 290. Just keep your eye on it. Okay, well. And so my four-year-old asked for some music at the dinner table on Saturday night. And Zach was just like, you know what, Knox? I need silence right now. I just. I need a minute. Did he say that? He actually did. And so we didn't play music. I don't know if I'd have the heart to do it. So that's where we are right now. And then 30 minutes later, I discovered wife repeller. So now there's no more silence in our house. Yep. Just MJ Lenderman up and down. I love MJ Lenderman. No one knows what wife repeller is. That story was told off mic. Sure. She posted about it. Yeah, I posted about it. The people know. I didn't see this post. I guess it was on Saturday night. Maybe you were not looking at Instagram, spending time with your family. Congratulations. It was. We're at 30 seconds. Yeah. Common victory for me. You may take it. Oh, that's beautiful. Don't really know what's it. If this hits, we're fucking not ready. It's going to. A hundred million will be like light work. And if it doesn't, it's just going to make like five million dollars. I think it's going to be hard for it to get to a hundred million. And Josh tomorrow is going to be like, who the fuck greenlit this movie? You know? And why didn't you use AI to make it? Well, what's it going up against? That's a very busy time at the box office. Our October is really. Emotionally involved. It really is. So it's actually October 16th is whale fall. Yeah. That it will be coming off of the social reckoning Other Mommy October 9th, which is a very chaotic weekend for us. No, but read the whole. Read. Start October 2nd. Digger and Verity come out on October 2nd. That's a lot. Colleen Hoover and Tom Cruise. Does Other Mommy feature farting? Did I read that correctly? That the demon in Other Mommy is flatulent? Where did you read this? Where are you? I don't know. This is Ed Brie Larson spending your time. Where did we find this? Other Mommy. Ask Sharon. Okay. Since you're not going to read it. Then October 9th, social reckoning. Then the next episode is Fjord. Then whale fall and sense and sensibility. Other Mommy flatulence. It's very. Don't forget about Street Fighter. Well, I was more talking about myself. And obviously I will see Street Fighter. And that was the best of the video game presentations that we saw at CinemaCon. I was thinking about maybe trying to grab it here. But that I just I don't really know what I'm going to do with myself. in October I'm gonna stay strong I'm gonna um you know keep keep seeing the sun keep doing my exercises mindfulness try to keep my eye on the ball mindfulness is something you practice I know a little bit about mindfulness I learned a lot about it and then I was like that seems unnecessary I'm just gonna put everything in a box over here you know mindfulness is about silence yeah which is obviously not a cheap is it my turn it is I won yes it is and I have uh what you might call it and now we're starting to get into the like well I hate to do it to you guys but you got to grab one of the prestige films I'm gonna go for paper tiger okay because it's a personal it represents me personally as a an east coast guy who loves crime film and loves James Gray and loves Miles Teller and loves Adam Driver loves Scarlett Johansson um and I'll be five dollars for that out of respect to paper tiger but why not just bid a hundred well why not bid one you guys can't bid on it right that's true well five dollars is actually more insulting than one dollar one dollar somebody looks at the board and they're like oh he ran out of money but there was one movie left on the board five dollars is like no one else bid on it I don't know I would encourage people I would say bid 500 no I'm gonna bid five dollars and uh we could talk about paper tiger though yeah well it's just a terrific movie we loved it we were there at the premiere Scarlett not but they facetimed her no yeah but I mean I listen time zones are very complicated I'll say one of the very best Adam Driver performances of all time and also the most Miles Teller has tried hard to be good in a film in about a decade like since when when's the last time you think he did that uh spectacular now I mean that's my favorite Miles Teller performance whiplash and spectacular now that's an amazing that was when I was like oh is this guy like John Voight or something and he was not that ultimately um just like a really sensitive but masculine presence on screen you know not not John Voight now not John John Voight advising President Trump on how to save cinema trying to reshore Hollywood production no John Voight from Midnight Cowboy and uh how's Carjo's accent are you allowed to say that without breaking it no it don't it's perfectly accurate it is exactly what people from there sound like sure it sounds like my grandmother do you think I would like to have it voiced my AI agent I don't think I don't think you'd enjoy that yeah my AI companion as someone who was raised with those voices very closely you don't know what what I get excited by you know you told us Brie Larson no I didn't mean that I just didn't know what she was talking about uh yeah five bucks I love James Gray it's gonna likely hit 85 I mean it's currently at 85 right who knows who knows it the the European critics loved it the U.S. critics thought it was his best in some time the U.S. I would say the U.S. pundits that we knew that we talked to at the festival but it did not win any prizes it can right so I don't know what that means newspapers were very upset about they were Le Monde said a masterpiece what did Le Keep say didn't catch up with that one I also don't read French Le Keep is the sports magazine yeah we know they said goal what is the French word for goal oh is it I think so goal is pretty universal really I mean there might be a French word for goal but I think when they score they're like goal okay well congrats on paper tiger son damn son you scored a goal so I get paper tiger yeah but I can never tell like is this podcast supposed to go on for like six hours or are we yeah yeah as you told me many moons ago it's all one podcast um so now I have wild horse nine and I have paper tiger and I have whale fall yep that's good what's your ideal episode length for this as a as a host or as listening to a podcast oh let's do both good question I do find that something magical happens at the two hour mark me too you know so either a focused you know one to 115 maybe like a focus one plus then you have a good interview yep uh and and or two hours and things can get like really frisky I will say this is how we've been able to do it together for so long yeah I agree with you but every once in a while there are exceptions where it's where if you and I just like have an hour and a half but like no real structure or nothing that we have to get done then we can get to the two hour energy at about an hour and that's also beautiful but that's where I'm trying to go I wonder if that's going to get easier or harder as I get older you mean the the loopiness or the just conjuring that energy because you you know you you used to say like five years ago you'd be like you you you guys like to go long you know I'm you like to be a more efficient I'm more used to different rhythms I mean I I'm more of a 55 minute yeah we know hour and five minute guy and then what happens at one hour and five minutes well usually I have to come to another podcast oh sorry scheduling excuse us yeah I like to be supportive of where are you going after this what show do you have to go do uh Rogan I know I have to prepare for the beautiful pod oh yeah there are many matches today there are three there are four maybe right before um I have to nominate another film please do and I I don't like doing this but I do need to shore up my Oscar campaign okay and so I will be nominating Fjord oh wow sheesh okay uh two in a row that are ineligible for Amanda and I I'm sorry that's okay but I wasn't really sure if I had like great confidence like this Oscars is yet to coalesce for me to the how much are you paying a dollar to okay wow to mirror Sean's shots fired at Christian Mongeau no the great Romanian filmmaker uh this movie I I'm really curious to see what happens with this because I think it's gonna hit here and people are gonna be like masterpiece I could be wrong it was mixed I can't it did win the palm and the jury loved it but it was very mixed it was and there was there were pushes towards other films Minotaur La Bola Negra that people preferred to this movie because it is in keeping with the kind of movie that he makes but I loved it and you liked it you liked it a lot I really I think I think they will get an Oscar nomination absolutely it's a best picture they'll get two I think in at least for the performances and then best picture I think so this is a movie about um a uh couple a Norwegian woman and a Romanian man who were living in Romania and uh moved to uh Norway to uh get a better life for their families a Christian family who encounter some unusual progressive structures in place in Norway around their family and it becomes a real cultural clash literally a cultural clash and Sebastian Stan and Renata Reinsva are both amazing in the movie it is it's gonna be a bit of a a political time bomb though it's gonna reveal I don't know how people feel about this kind of thing when it is released I guess I don't want to say more than that I'm very curious for your take as a thoughtful consumer of um political content and a maker one of the makers of JMO that's true it's a true JMO movie yeah good good uh I think in similar ways that we were talking about Scarjo doing they write I think shout out to Sebastian Stan who seems to have gotten the same memo and is like I did all the the Marvel movies and those two people probably will be ahead of the curve as I wonder whether or not um less and less Hollywood actors are interested in going through what Millie Alcock just went through yeah and they're just is it really worth it to if this doesn't go right I get blamed and if it goes well like I'm locked into this for nine years elegant segue for my next nomination which is Spider-Man Brand New Day okay I'll put on the board for five bucks I don't know if you guys care about this um I don't know if it makes sense even in the auction in the aftermath of the Supergirl thing and the way that we talked about it and that I wrote about it and all that it doesn't change the fact that I still remain very interested in Spider-Man do you think this will make more money than Odyssey and Dune in all likelihood it should I mean based on what the subject matter is and how it's performed before and Spider-Man is not really subject to the whims of Morbius and Supergirl Spider-Man has always been successful 15 bucks wait what's on the board Spider-Man Brand New Day what do you need what do you need I'm sorry I was I was focusing on what I need and like you know kind of trying to plot my strategy but no you start talking about Spider-Man which I like I had a great time at the one where they pointed each other you know um no way home sure that was beautiful and new director okay Destin Daniel Cretton coming in John Watts out Justin Kuritsky's writing mm-hmm doing a pass on the screenplay I Tom Holland claiming telling Zach Baron that you learned a lot from the Odyssey and that's what he put that energy right to Brand New Day yeah of course me too um I am are you in the Odyssey wouldn't that be amazing if I showed up are you Scylla or Charybdis or is it that you constantly tell Zach Baron that you've learned a lot from the Odyssey yeah uh we're at $30 $25 now five years ago if we were doing this exercise this movie would be - Yes. - Fought for. Now we also, we have a lot of our-- - Do either of you need box office? - I do. I could use some backup for disclosure day, but I was just doing this to keep talking. But this is a sequel, so he can't even have it. That's right. I shouldn't even be allowed to bid. So we should go back down to your $15. Wow. We should go back down to my $5 because I put it up. Do I get this? I mean, you have to ask yourself. Actually, you can't do it either because you have two sequels. That's right. Well, that's a steal. Congratulations. Thank you very much. Congratulations, Sean. I'm going to see this film. It turns out that you're doing well at the game whose rules you wrote. I would love to play a game that you create or you create. I don't think you could play my games. Say more. Okay, so I could. Have you ever seen a Saw movie? So I do have some loopholes the way that Chris does because I famously left Cannes early and almost missed The Palm. Do you only have one movie? I only have one film. That I spent a lot of money on. And there are some things waiting for me, hopefully, unless you want to get in the mix. But that doesn't seem that fun to do right now. So I'm going to have a little fun right now. And then if I got to circle back or I got to start Googling movies coming out in 2026, I will do that. So. Okay. This is a lot of preamble. Listen, I told you I was focused. That's why I wasn't listening to you talking about Spider-Man. Still ambling. Sorry. It's called. I'm camping while I decide what to do. Still ambling. For $10. I'll do Here Comes the Flood. Hmm. Okay. What is the value of this film? Okay. Oh, great. Okay. Me liking it. Okay. And me having a great time. More than enough. Me going to the cinema and saying, yes, they still make those. You won't be going to the cinema. They're like, well, I will because it's rumored to be premiering in Venice. Okay. So I will be at the Palais. The Palazzo, in this case. Excuse me. I got to switch my internal settings from French to Italian. Yes. That's so easy for you. That's a really relatable. And I will be there. And it will be in a large screen. It's seats that are slightly too small for my liking. The Europeans keep it compact. But you don't have to. That's fine. This is a heist film directed by Fernando Morales, written by Simon Kinberg, Denzel Washington, Robert Pattinson, your girl, Daisy Edgar Jones. Is she playing an American in this film? Don't know. They didn't consult me on the accent work. I think she does a fine American accent. Okay. This is 50. Nobody wants it. Twister was fine. Ten bucks. Twisters. Yeah. Twisters was fine. There were multiple twisters. That's fine. I want to keep talking about this movie, though. Okay. I agree with you completely that this is just a gobsmacking decision just to hide this away on Netflix. I feel like this is like a Denzel Washington, Robert Pattinson thriller. I'm going to keep being a brat about this publicly so that they put it in theaters. I don't understand. Why make the fucking movie? That's great. There's no way this movie costs less. It's less than $100 million. There's a 0% chance. It's a Denzel Washington movie. So they had to buy out his quote and his back end. So this movie is expensive. I mean, this is also, this is a movie that spans the generations at Netflix, presumably, right? And the executives. Oh, the stuberted family. I believe so. I don't know. We aren't totally sure, but one could assume that it was greenlit and structured. In the Scott Stuber era. Yes. In a different era than the current. We don't care about spending money. Do we know what the long line is? Money on movies. Money on movies. All I know is a bank situation. Yeah. Always, which is always promising. Listen, it's also, I'm just interested. I want to see it. And I said that I would try to spend some money for myself. Incidentally, the. Also, I had no movies and only $285. Is it Richard Stahelski's doing How to Rob a Bank? Leach, David Leach. That could either be, that will either be among my favorite movies of the year or among my least favorite. And there is no in between. Interesting. Yeah. So I care a lot about TikTok and I don't want them to, you know, bastardize it as a filmmaking. That's, that's what you've got your heart in. Okay. No, I just think it could be like really corny or really good. Yeah. I agree with you. We, I, Here Comes the Flood is like a couple of other movies where there's no materials right now. We don't know when it's coming out. Maybe it's at Venice. Maybe not. So it feels like a very commercial place. So Venice seems like a weird place to put a movie like that. I mean, I think it's just a genre movie. It's a, it's a, it's a, yeah, probably an elevated Denzel Washington programmer. Right. I mean, with obviously the director of City of God and the two popes and Friend of Morella super accomplished, but I don't know. I'm, I'm very excited about it. Do you think it'll be better or worse than The Rip? I'm hoping better. And that's said with love for The Rip, which I enjoyed very much. Almost, not as much as Quentin Tarantino. Yeah, that's true. But you know. You loved the film. I know. Loved it. Wrote about it in Sight and Sound magazine. Extensively. Beautiful. Okay. So you've got Here Comes the Flood. Oh, and then I have another one. Another film to put up on the board. Okay. Chris has got four movies. I've got three. You've got two. Other Mommy, 10 bucks. Okay. 20 bucks. On IMDb, it says that The Other Mommy is flatulent. I mean, what's more haunting than that? I'm just saying it gives you an idea of the vibe of the film. Sure. 30 bucks. A Rob Savage movie. Mm-hmm. I'm a big fan. Rob Savage. I know you are. Jessica Chastain, a big fan. So Jessica Chastain ripping ass throughout the film? No, I think it's about like a little girl. She finds a demon in her closet that farts. And it's like she calls it Other Mommy. I could be confused. That's not at all what it's about. Also, Doug, the demon takes the corporeal form of Jessica Chastain. So the demon looks just like Mommy. Bella, an eight-year-old girl living in a home with marital problems, confronts a flatulent entity that comes out of her closet. That presence who she calls Other Mommy becomes increasingly threatening to her and her family. Yeah, $45. $50, because it looks just like her real mommy, Jessica Chastain. Well, listen, we all have bodies. Did you fart in any of the footage you saw? No. Are you looking at fart.com? What are you reading? I am deep. Look. That's an interesting data. That's not noted in the trailer. Yeah, there are no farts in that. You're done? You're walking away? I can go off the dome for less. Now that I fucking solved the internet. $55. That's proof to you that the demon farts? Yeah. Did you not want to leave up the photos of Brie Larson you're looking at? It's not cool. I don't objectify her. What, you don't? She's Ms. Marvel. She's Captain Marvel. You fucking pig. She's a captain. That wasn't even an MS dot. That was a miss. That was a Helen Gurley Brown Ms. Marvel. Yeah. She actually does not. I was about to spoil the bear. We're at 30 seconds. 65. Okay. I'm going to do that. $70. Spoil the bear. I was going to say something about the bear. You know what? I'm going to watch it. I was strongly encouraged by Brian Koppelman last week. He was like, you have to watch season four. He's in the bear. Well, we were talking about it because of that. Computer. Season five. Season five. Yeah. Season six. And I'm going to watch The Agency too. Dude, The Agency rocks. I'm quite excited. Yeah. I think you would actually. I have to watch. The thing that you would like. There's literally 30 Diane Keaton films that she made after 2008. So that's going to be an interesting week for me. Hall of Fame. It's going to be a tough one. Yeah. But I signed up as tribute for the late phase. 75. The thing with Diane Keaton is the run of movies from 1970 through 1987. I don't know if there's ever been a stronger stretch. It's honestly extraordinary, especially 70 through 81. And then something happens in 2000 where I'm like, what are these films? Have not heard of this. What's the movie that changes it all, that sends it in the wrong direction? What's the turning point? I'm not sure if there's like a break point. I think she just, you know, older women, obviously, getting typecast, not getting the opportunities that they want. I hate that for them. There's a lot of like, what's the Lily Tomlin, Jane Fonda show, Grace and Frankie? Yeah. 90. There's a lot of things that just have like a Grace and Frankie vibe to them. I see. You know? Mac and Rita. What's that? I don't know. Movie that came out in 2022. Never heard of it until yesterday. Mac and Rita. What's the movie we're bidding on? Other Mommy. Well, I did my work on this one. You don't want to get in on this? I don't feel like reporters. You have $574. Reporters shouldn't benefit from their reporting. And I reported on this film. You read a log line on a publicly available website. CIA, I do that. That's exactly what it does. 95. Why not? How much money do I have left? I don't know. I have $275. There's a lot of money on the board here. $100. I'll let you have it for $100. Okay, great. Thanks. I need you to have some money left over so we can keep the game going here. Okay. Okay, so you put Other Mommy up. Yeah. That kicks it back to me? I put Here Comes the Flood and Other Mommy. Okay. Spider-Man Brand New Day off the board. Oh, now it's back. I mean, what's the most desirable movie that's left on the slate right here? Onslaught? You know what Onslaught is? No. Adam Wingard's return to James Cameron-esque filmmaking with Simon Barrett. He's, you know, left behind Godzilla and King Kong. And it's Adrien Arjona playing, like, a super soldier killer. Right? That's exactly right. I hope it's good. Okay. Is October coming out this year? Jeremy Saulnier's new film? I think we would have heard, and I think it would be slated for October. later for October, which would make it weird if it was just like, I don't nowhere there's a Jeremy Saul name movie there's some there's some stuff but I don't know if there's anything that really connects with all three of us and those are usually the most interesting movies are you gonna pick the Taika Waititi movie Clara and the Sun no it looks absolutely horrible there's a new Ishiguro book coming out next year he fucking blacked out in the Financial Times they asked him about like his obsession with train movies he seems like the most delightful guy ever yeah what's the new one called I'm just gonna say Miss Lambert steps aboard danger look at this wow an exquisite spy novel a disarming and memorable caper in which not everything is quite as it seems Wow March 9th 2027 why are you yelling I'm fucking psyched for the new Ishiguro novel like I'm a hype woman but only for literary fiction that meets my particular needs early interest this is tagged literary fiction and cozy mystery damn Penguin Random House get at me damn son when that mystery gets so cozy would you leave him if you leave Sean if it was like Amanda you've just done such amazing work for the modern modern publishing we just want to prop you up as a literary fiction influencer would you abandon Sean and you were just like send me a galley why would this necessity why can't I have both you can have it all what I am doing every day is having it all that's right many people are saying I don't know how to have it all for this this moment I'm so I'm gonna put clay face on the board this is a personal project you think that's beautiful James James Watkins I don't have to worry about that anymore because I have spider-man I'm just asking if you think it's gonna make a hundred million dollars I don't think Supergirl's gonna make a hundred dollars a hundred million dollars I'm serious it would be funny if Supergirl didn't make a hundred dollars if all the guys were like but yes clay face you know what I mean well yeah I mean episode I'm looking at the schedule where is it what happened it's oh it's not to the end of October it got moved I was confusing it with something else okay yeah it's October 23rd yeah it is I've got some ideas okay for the clay face episode clay face James Watkins adapting the DC comics story of a Batman villain but taking a really hard horror strain on it so we've been told yeah we saw the trailer yeah um very good trailer damn Christmas Day is the werewolf episode and it's only me on the schedule right now it's tough it's the that's that that's the that's the big release on Christmas Day right now unless you want to wait to cover Ebenezer the Christmas Carol story starring Johnny Depp remember that's the other one Johnny Depp came on stage at CinemaCon that was so dark arranged that was and people lost their mind loved it special bonus Christmas episode uh the Rohirrim movie the wharf of the Rohirrim watch along oh that would be fun I I couldn't get through that movie the animated Lord of the Rings movie I thought there was a new one that's not is it also animated no you're talking about the hunt for Gollum fucking hunt for Gollum and is that coming out this year I think it's 28 oh I'm sorry for Gollum 28 and who just signed up to do that it's directed by Amy Circus yeah but somebody just signed on for it that I was like Hunt of Gollum I think it's Gollum Gollum signed on he's participating okay hold on it's been delayed till December 2027 according to Reddit for that well listen you have a bitch I can't watch you browse I'll say nuts I'll say five what do you want from it what am I doing I don't even know what these search results are how do you not have like instantaneously like here's I have a movie because I don't let AI do the work for me clog get the fuck out you know Gemini no bad branding five dollars for Clayface 10 bucks I don't really need it but don't you want it I do I I guess five hundred and seventy five dollars I'll bid a hundred dollars then for $105 man does not get involved I'm gonna let you I'm honestly reading an Esquire roundup of what's what everything we know about the hunt for Gollum what's the latest what's the latest hunting him December 17th 2027 okay great and what's happening here what's the bit no what's the big idea this is incredible blogging it will sit between the Hobbit and the Fellowship of the Ring with its main story I don't know I was reading ahead you understand that like there's like a giant autoplay video playing and she's got like what a fucking like what the fuck do you want me to do differently it's just get a fucking ad blocker which one and I'll I will do it for you it's like it's like watching my parents surf the web it's crazy I don't really use the internet that much on this computer I'm gonna take this for okay yeah do that yeah do that um it unfolds after Bilbo's 111th birthday party Bilbo Baggins yeah and before so happy birthday to him and before he's so mad because like I don't know I don't know what that is I don't read this shit but I would do a watch along with you say you're a classics major you know what I'm saying well listen stands astride history I've told you many times though that my Greek professor did like stop Greek one day and was like let's learn Elvish instead and started diagramming Elvish in the ways that it's based on Greek and awesome she was really cool Margaret shout out Margaret Graves okay I don't remember anything about we've got making sure that was her name we've got a fascinating moment here now I was right I've got four movies Chris has got four movies Amanda's got three movies she has the least amount of money left Chris and I I have four five eighty and Chris has five seventy four Margaret Graver Margaret Graves is an art historian yeah you got up so you got to put a movie on the board and if you get it it's your last movie if you don't get it then you could still have another chance to put another movie up a lot of the movies that I wanted I've either gotten or they're there been they've been taken and I don't really want to do one where you guys can't bid or can't get involved but I'm I'm tempted the last one I had on my long list is hope okay now hung Jin's new film I don't know what do you feel like that could be best foreign film Oscar no that's not a judgment on the film but I do not think it will it will be in the running if it and if it is then we are ushering in a wonderful new era yes then things are changing at the Oscars in exciting ways I can't nominate any sequels I can't I'm gonna do here we had a lot of fun at the hope premiere hope is hope is a is a blast and I think hope is going to be even better when they start tweaking it up a little bit yep before it's released but it is a two hour and 40 bug hunt movie set in South Korea that's true maybe not in South Korea who knows where it's set they didn't tell me that also features Michael Fassbender and Alicia Vikander and Taylor Russell sort of and sort of all three of them what I mean what about werewolf not a sequel what about werewolf what about werewolf what do you know about werewolves like what is your personal relationship with that mythology I think that the silver bullet technology is is a bit much that that's what it takes to kill them mm-hmm I think that's a relatively recent I think that's a cinematic invention oh not a I don't know it's a literary well let's let's that's right that's a great idea Amanda okay werewolf for five dollars that was Sean's idea right here Brie Larson five dollars for werewolf $15 okay I'm you know whatever why not why not I like what you like just let me go on vacation five dollars no I'm not gonna do it instead I am holding out for don't you only have three movies yeah but I have some other ideas here and I don't want you guys would then saddle me with werewolf and then I'm like great now I got this werewolf to responsible for $40 and I don't really know how much 40 40 bucks werewolves aren't real and Wolverines are yes okay well we don't know about where we feel like like tell me about your how many Wolverines have you seen I just assume that they are in the badger and beaver family right yeah sort of more feral slightly more dangerous but not really it's like a land seal is what I did last night tell me I'm not like a land seal I protected a cat from a coyote I'm not like a land seal I protected a cat from a coyote I protected a what give me everything tell me the breakdown the strategy coyotes in my neighborhood have gotten quite aggressive dollars yeah 55 and they come out like a dusk and they're really in the mix and there's a street near near me that we affectionately refer to as cat street because there's a lot of cats okay and there is a cat on that you and Brie who's talking this conversation I call scritches but I don't know what its name is and a coyote was like coming for it and I said stop so you shut up Yes. you shall not pass that lord of the rings thing yeah yeah yeah yeah once Gandalf I did he's standing before Balrog the ancient fire demon okay what are the tree people's names and Jim and yeah 75 75 werewolf why can't we do a watch along to one of the Hobbit movies that's funny Mallory would probably assassinate you I think if you did that that's fine I don't want to watch that I mean look I want to make more content about lord of the rings I'm just going to say it out loud I just said it's a bill on the rewatchables last week I'm trying I think they're very special those first three films the Hobbit films I don't know what happened something happened it isn't good the first three I'll say 80 bucks I'm fascinated by werewolf I hope it's good I can't I can't shake Chris's Wes Anderson insight but I'm one of those people who's like you're not seeing the Wes Anderson movie but we like Wes Anderson I know I know that's fine it wasn't an insult Wes Anderson is more excited to talk to you on podcasts though so that is one thing he was lovely to talk to on podcasts yes to you to you he was a great guest and he'd been somebody I'd always wanted to talk to um Rob Eggers is a really nice guy it's not about that it's more just that he's like I'm clearly annoying him do you think it would be insane if in this auction we started opening it up to like multiple years and we were like drafting like the next Scorsese movie and shit oh sheesh well I you know like a 24 sorry I was look I was reading about how this movie is going to feature early modern English so I wasn't listening so what did you say about Scorsese like what if we started bidding on things that were also 27 like opening up the drafting well okay oh is what happens at night like what happens at night gonna be this year could that come out this year it finished you never know completed production it's June 30th and they say that it's a it's like smaller in scope right well and who's putting that out Apple Apple I don't know we're over 30 seconds uh 85 Apple has two other films coming out they have a Sean what's her face Coda Sean Hader yes being human I was just I was trying to get there okay great and Tenzing what's that about I don't know I don't know that's what it's called yeah T-E-N-Z-I-N-G yeah that's been on the docket for a long time they have more movies than that coming out Mayday is coming out with Ryan Reynolds you know what we didn't do and maybe we can revisit it when Amanda goes on vacation yep is Into the Gray you know I haven't seen it I think it's not that bad that's a great place to start we're at 30 seconds okay 95 what um what's a what is a is there a garbage nomenclature that we could affix in the gray I mean what if we just did Garbage Wolves Late Richie Garbage Richie what if we just did Late Richie I feel like we've done that probably like five times I'll do it again okay I'll always do it with you if I need to revisit Guy Ritchie's The Covenant I will revisit it wasn't there another one that came out this year that we didn't there was an Alan Richson movie that came out last year there's one coming out later this year I think called Wife and Dog a hundred bucks okay Wife and Dog yeah which is uh that's the name of your modern literary podcast Wife and Dog Wife and Book 105 this is not a Guy Ritchie movie how much money does Sean have left 580 more than you and how much money do I have left I believe 574 this is a normal way to spend it I just you know what it is I just I thought I would get more out of drafting things that you guys had seen and being like nah yeah it really doesn't it doesn't have like it doesn't have it doesn't hit the same no it's not yeah it's not as fun $200 oh okay wow I'm gonna think about that for a minute werewolf wait what are you saving your money for I don't know if I have a movie that's gonna get it to 85 oh and you don't think werewolf will you think that everyone will appreciate the technical achievements but this is the problem is he's seen too many things yeah that's the problem mm-hmm where what do you think Nosferatu's Metacritic score is 72 what do you think uh 74 I think it's probably right around there 78 yeah we're at 30 seconds I think you can take it so we need just one movie with Metacritic over 85 mm-hmm okay and I gotta figure out what that is okay now is the Odyssey getting over 85 I don't know that's the thing we don't know yeah I think so I don't I don't know I want to throw this out there there's a chance for a backlash with the Odyssey I'm not saying it's not gonna do well I'm not saying it's not gonna be good but there's a chance for a backlash they tried already yeah they tried to cancel it that was like a yeah anti-woke thing oh you just think people are gonna see it and be like nah try again there's just so much hype snooze now obviously Oppenheimer defeated that fascinatingly yeah That was a historical drama that he drove to $980 million or whatever that was amazing that that happened and this is not me wearing my like Nolan Hader hat like I'm actually just kind of curious like culturally I was just like this a week after six out of ten is like an interesting test for you of like I know you want to be right but you also want to you know no it's more like if I'm considering can it get to 85 he's also now it would be like critically as okay acclaimed he would be on a on a what like eight year like undefeated run of of commercial and critical I guess tenet is looked at as like a misstep but that was more COVID than anything and we love not by me tenet right now Variety Variety says these are the top ten Oscar contenders okay Michael Michael yeah is literally on the list Wild Horse Nine The Social Reckoning I don't believe that for a second Project Hail Mary The Odyssey The Odyssey La Bola Negra Fjord Dune Part 3 yeah Digger and the debut I mean that's you know past performance is no indication of future performance for a couple of those but but it's also it's at this point in the year we're always like there are five that we're sure of and five we have no idea and so that's that seems like some decent guessing some of those will some of those won't this is a fascinating podcast do you think that it's better do you have a pick now do I have what's happening I have a pick because Chris doesn't need to take another film yeah so my question is do I do I take the debut as my bid for a chance at 85 which is likely to be an Oscar movie have you heard anybody who's seen it do you know any word on it nope my gut tells me I'll see it at Telluride I have no confirmation on that but that's where it feels like it'll premiere did you see Jesse Eisenberg I did very deftly handling he said it's what Aaron Sorkin said I do not want to be associated with that movie that character as there's a Minions poster behind him did you also see that Michael Mann went to the Minions premiere I didn't did he review it Michael Mann yeah I don't even know where he would have put that I don't know I just I think he took his family that's cute who must be Minions fans the other movie that I could take that I think he's going to get 85 is Wildwood okay which is the animated movie that Travis Knight's second film of the year after the Masters of the Universe situation okay I didn't realize this until I was in the bookstore I knew that Wildwood was based on a book I didn't know that it was based on a book I didn't realize it was written by Colin Malloy the lead singer of the Decembrists and he wrote this one of your favorite bands not a band I love but a door stopper novel okay it's like a 500 page novel that I bought and I started reading that to Alice last week very good maybe a little maybe a little mature I was going to say it's a graphic novel it's not you're just reading a 500 page novel it's a proper novel it's like Harry Potter though I mean it's the same thing oh I see okay I didn't it's sort of like it's sort of YA okay sort of in that like 8 to 14 range and the movie looks amazing I think it is the trailer of the year I know you guys don't care about stop motion animation but the trailer is just breathtaking and I think it's going to be a great I think it has a chance to be a great film okay I know you don't care well do you think that people will hold Masters of the Universe and other things against Travis Knight critically I don't think so I don't think people even know who Travis Knight is really don't you think the critics though who are registered on Metacritic know? I'm just trying to help you here I'm not going to get in the mix with you on this and you have more money than me I think they have a Brie Larson voice so what you're talking about you're trying to decide between Wildwood and and the debut I can't believe I'm in the position of defending animation critics being like that's rude they don't use AI of course they know who Travis Knight is because he you know led the Haleika for a long time and has directed animated features for sure I don't know there's got to be another movie out there like Clarissa which was it but we didn't see it I don't know there's a movie I'm curious about you mentioned Tenzing right now you're looking for 85 I'm 85 hunting I mean what else is out there? when does Your Mother, Your Mother, Your Mother come out? it's in the fall haven't seen that yet either that's Bassam Tariq yeah it's basically Maharshal Ali's film which I'm excited about yeah La Bola Negra is exactly the movie I would have taken if I were not at Cannes you know this is very boring But I left, and so I have two kids. titles in my back pocket that I'm going to do and yeah although I don't think I was getting 85 either no but there's another one that I think will and you know and away I go as soon as you conclude and I'm trying to be supportive here for you you know I think that you should pick the debut because I'm team Eisenberg yeah I think I'm also team Eisenberg yeah I want to see him continue to make films this out of respect to Jesse Eisenberg I'll pay $100 for the debut okay and then you just leave the other 480 on the table out of respect for Jesse Eisenberg also that's right okay we may we may need to eventually address the thousand dollars okay why well we didn't drive each other up enough on other films I know I know well that was the move the triggers and the you guys going to can next time just don't go to can one more exciting pod what are we going to do together in that time you're going to go somewhere else you don't care we'll just stay home while you go why don't you you go to camp you know you know it was not auctioned even by you what in either auction speaking of can was her private hell which you skipped and you still have not seen like where you're you could you could have come you could have I really didn't appreciate his disrespect yeah this film and it's actually like a sore spot it's a little bit of a well you could have you could have bought it and you didn't I I think that it sounds like nwr really empowered those actresses to have creative equity in the movie and I'm surprised that you dismissed it um the film is now in my mind part of a 10 movies we missed episode later in July fucked up well it's not good I don't know what to say I was with you on Copenhagen cowboy yes you could have been there in can leading the charge you were where I could not have why not I was I went to Portland okay and I also I'm on like 10 there was a third bedroom you know there was you would have had to share a bathroom with not me but uh that's we could have made it happen one thing I didn't mention on any of the can podcast discussions was the size of the bathroom that I used not not large but you got the shower did you give him the option yeah I did so I took the larger bedroom and then I took the bathroom with just the bathtub in the showerhead so yeah so he actually got a shower much nicer bathroom though well I'm sorry we can rearrange it next time you know whatever you could not have fit into the bathtub I can fucking rent my own chateau okay that'd be dope okay uh okay so you believe in her private hell but you never you chose not to spend any money on it beautiful tiling in that I mean there's there's plenty of films that I got I myself out if I didn't nobody's like Avengers Doomsday what about it uh nobody took you know I mean you guys couldn't take sequels so there were not there are not many opportunities to take that film you did the debut for $100 oh okay um shall I do mine very quickly yeah and then we can yeah do yours yeah so uh with so I've done the math so for $88 I'm gonna take Minotaur uh directed by Andrei Zbastionov which won the the what's the second one the Grand Prix at Cannes and um it's a remake of um the Unfaithful Wife and then also Unfaithful and but set in the against the backdrop of the Russian war what Landry Shamit signs new four year deal to remain with the New York Knicks come on baby it's gonna be such a hard come down for you let's go I can't wait to document it tirelessly I'll never come down we already won and then for $87 La Bola Negra which is another film that I did not see at Cannes because I went to celebrate my 10th wedding anniversary acquired by Netflix and and and and and a sweeping Penelope magisterial film what a year for her so far she has a very small role in the movie but unforgettable as is Glenn Close less okay memorable does she play a wife no she plays a literary historian like much like myself yeah yeah well I think she's a bit more seasoned uh I like La Bola Negra yeah you texted me afterwards and I'm like this it really knocked me out and you said it wasn't perfect yeah but I was jealous I was really upset that I missed both of those at Cannes life happens it's a generations spanning so it takes place across three timelines in Spain and it's like twice in thirt twenties and thirties is it based on a work of novel no it has a lot of Spanish uh poet history in it um and one of the timelines is sort of not present day but maybe 2017 um and it's you know three different queer characters three gay men over there those periods of time um and how they intersect with the fascists oh it's it's based on like a unfinished Federico Garcia Lorca that's what I was saying yeah oh cool it isn't like based on it inspired by inspired by yes inspired by sorry so would it have been eligible in the 2010 redraft oh because of the parameters of that sure yeah it's all like a a tangled series like chicken wire up here with the different rules that I've created for all these games so yeah and I'm doing my best I know you guys are doing your best too and I appreciate you playing along I think we are doing our best can you well just create a game like create one game I think that my value my value proposition is to be ready to play any game but I don't come up with the games but here's the thing if you will you create a game you want me to create a game yeah I just asked you that well there are many other games that could be played I still think that what kind of answer is that you guys are such assholes I thought what you wanted to say is you don't actually like playing games very much I love playing heads up and I think heads up is very fun excuse me no I'm kind of I know I am visualizing playing heads up whatever happened today for you I'm visualizing let's just restart let's you know let's see would heads up work as a podcast I don't know I mean there's probably like a video way that you could set it up where the audience could see it but the other people can't I think I'm pretty inspired don't want to leave our blind listeners behind I'm inspired at heads up okay I guess that's the thing is how many people are actually listening versus how many people are actually watching I don't know the answer to that question yeah if what happens at night comes out we're going to feel stupid we are yeah but who can be blamed I mean like we were working with the best information we can here right I think we feel stupid a lot of the time when we look at our auction results six months later it's very true I think that's part of the exercise here are the films that I listed that went undrafted okay unauctioned unauctioned Avengers Doomsday you mentioned yeah Tony the Anthony Bourdain oh man Matt Johnson yeah biography although probably not going to hit a lot of the triggers probably not but in terms of movies I'd like to potentially have my slate I mentioned Wildwood we talked about Street Fighter The Great Beyond from J.J. Abrams oh yeah we talked about Street Fighter in the did we talk about Street Fighter we did Amanda and I were discussing it while you were I don't know jerking off or whatever I thought that's a drive-by I thought that it was we were talking you didn't listen oh you were talking about it on this podcast Street Fighter yeah it came up Amanda said that was one of the better so you can still do that video game trailers we saw I think you can still jerk off after you have a vasectomy it just doesn't have any of the stuff in it of course you can jerk off after you have a vasectomy what are you talking about nobody would get a vasectomy how do you can't you jerk off after you get your nuts cut that's not that's a metaphor you're misunderstanding it's a figure of speech for like Chris Paul it's nut cutting time are you gonna step up yeah you said you made a proclamation that you understood how these things work after Jackass 5 I said that I'm learning and there are things that I do know and things I don't know you're the mother of sons I know that's what I'm saying I do most of the time I'm just like hey Zach can you come check that that look normal you're gonna have a crazy next 15 years I know that it's gonna fucking it's gonna destroy you you have no idea what these boys are capable of as I think we we learned it is destroying me on a weekendly basis okay and now like here I am ready to hank and he's just like no selling me everywhere because I don't have the right ad blocker installed no I'm not no selling I think you you need to start looking at us for what we are which is your refuge that's what I was trying your sanctuary and I was trying to suggest fun games and talk to you about your macros and your weight lifting I'm just in a sensitive place with it because I'm just not sticking with it enough I'm not consistent enough well that's why I think you should come do something that's more portable with me okay in the hotel you know when you were saying you watched the Hunger Games ballad of songs whatever in the hotel room no do a soda method instead buddy did you already find the spot in Toronto in which to do it I do have several recommendations for Pilates but you've already told me you're not open to an in class Pilates experience so a bunch of Canadian women and me in a Pilates class do you want to come over and google image search Brie Larson that laugh is terrible other films so the great Pilates directed by J.J. Abrams that's Gracie Abrams' dad in case you guys are wondering who he is your mother your mother your mother you mentioned Godzilla minus zero I thought about it sequel yeah I'm pretty excited about that we also saw some stuff from that I didn't I missed it oh you missed that because that's my once again once a trip I fuck up my alarm oh right and And that because I don't, you're not like a, Zach wakes me up every day. Oh, my God. Yeah, with coffee. And that's why I married him and not Jacob Lurie. That's the only reason. It was 50-50. And Zach came in with the last second offer. Yeah, but so I always fuck up the alarm. I set it up for like a.m. instead of p.m. Or, you know, turn it on. There's her private hell and then there's a place in hell, which is Daisy Edgar Doan's Michelle Williams. Oh, that does. Yeah, I'm excited about that. I'm excited about that. That looks fun. Sense and sensibility. You got any thoughts on that? That is also Daisy Edgar Jones. It is. Big year for her. Have you seen the 1995 Sense and Sensibility? For sure. Okay. I have. Good. I get them mixed up. Like a lot of the Austens, I get a little mixed up. There's Emma. Yeah. There's Pride and Prejudice. Keep going. And there's Sense and Sensibility. Yeah. There are three more. Do you know those? Mansfield Park. Yeah. Yeah, two more. One's a place. North Ranger Abbey. Yeah. And one more. And one more. And one more, which is a classic. Is it a woman's name? Mm-mm. Persuasion. Yes. Dang. There you go. Together, you did it, and I'm proud of both of you. I never would have gotten North Ridge Abbey. North Ranger. North Ranger. Or North Anger. North Anger, yeah. Yeah, I don't know that one. You caught up on the plot of Pride and Prejudice since we last spoke? No, probably not. Okay. Pride and Prejudice is Mr. Darcy? Yes. Yeah, I know that one. Okay. Sense and Sensibility is. Eleanor and Marianne Dashwood? Sisters. And Mr. Willoughby. Yeah. Jane Austen, could she come up with, like, a different plot? Doesn't it seem like she kind of ran the same one out there a couple times? Boy, I wonder if this gal should get married. What do you think? Let me ask my sister. The cinematic universe. I have a Pilates class to get to. Let's wrap this up. Hexed. Disney animated feature? Yeah, sure. I think inspired by Jane Austen, right? Cool, yeah. She loves witches. She's actually bad. Jane Austen's love of witches. That was good. Some of the best stuff. Do you ever wish you had a sister? Do you think it would change me? I do. I do. You do? Yeah. What do you think's wrong with me? Less masturbating, I think. Oh, God. The Young People, new Oz Perkins horror film? Mm-hmm. Also undrafted Fatherland, we mentioned. Teenage Sex and Death. Yeah. Yeah. We weren't, well. I regret it. I mean, look, I think I got distracted by Clayface. Mm-hmm. We'll go through. Mm-hmm. I wanted to ask you guys briefly, because I know you have a class and I have to attend to some personal matters. I bet. Does this make you guys, looking at all these, looking at our remaining films, do you feel excited for the rest of the year? Cannes made it harder. To feel excited? Because it took a bunch of stuff off the table that I look forward to. I catch up on a lot of the Cannes movies historically on Telluride. So now I'm not going to have to watch any of those movies, which makes conquering Telluride easier, but it makes the year a little bit less like. You know, like The Secret Agent was one of my favorite movies of last year. And I had to wait many months after that movie premiered at a festival to see it. And then I saw it and I was able to watch it again. And I liked that. And maybe there'll be a ton of great stuff at the fall film festivals this year. I do think that there's a couple things that are kind of make or break-y on the year. Like Digger, a lot is riding on that movie. And if it's not, if we don't love it, or even if only one of us likes it, it makes it a little less fun to talk about. Yeah. I think if Cliff Booth was coming out in theaters, that would make it feel a little bit different. There's something strangely, not anticlimactic, but I think it's like, it'll just feel like it's gone in a weekend, no matter what it is. Yeah, it's two weeks, but I know what you mean. Oh, it's going. And is it going wide or is it just in select theaters? I think it's in a thousand IMAX screens. Okay. Which is an experiment that we'll probably spend a lot of time talking about on the show. But even cover, it's like, I guess you cover that the day it comes out, right? Because it's such a huge movie for all of us. I think so. And also holiday. Weekend of it all. Yeah? Yeah. I'm excited. Me too. It's great. I like it when movies come out and I get to see them. I like it too. Okay. Chris, you went first. Why don't you do your slate? Can you scroll down a little bit? Thanks, bud. I got Wild Horse 9 for $110. Whale Fall for $310. Papered Tiger for $5. And Fjord for $1. And I should note that I got those for so little because they have already been seen by two of my competitors. They'll definitely tell everyone on Instagram that, so. I'll do that. I'll do a forward-facing. I've never done a forward-facing video. Okay. And I will do that for this. That would be exciting. Do you want me to email James Gray just to give him a heads up? Yes. Okay. And then, did you see that thing where Callum Turner was like, James Gray kept me on the phone for three hours? Yep. Werewolf for $200. Yeah. It's blessed. Okay, I went second, so I'll go. I got Primetime, the Robert Pattinson vehicle for $75. The End of Oak Street for $235. Somehow managed to get Spider-Man, Brand New Day for $5. Clayface for $105. And The Debut for $100. I have $480 remaining for my sleep. Okay. Well, that's just bad financial planning. I got Behemoth, the new Tony Gilroy movie for $715. Here Comes the Flood for $10. Other Mommy for $100. Minotaur for $88. And La Bola Negra for $87, I believe, because I only had. That is correct. Yeah. Okay. And I have nothing left. Who won? Emotionally or financially. Who won the year? Uh. Well. Did you win? I mean, you have The Odyssey and Spider-Man, but. No, I don't. But I don't know if I have an 85 on Metacritic. Oh. And if I don't, I lose. who won by the things. Yeah. Right? I've got my $100 million movies. I think I might have won. Possibly. Where do you think Fjord will get your. Fjord will get an Oscar. I think Wild Horse 9 could get an Oscar. Where's your 85? coming from? Fjord? I'm not. Paper Tiger? It could, but I don't know. It could get mad. Yeah, people could get mad. Paper Tiger? What if it's Whale Fall? What if everyone's just like a lecture? The best thing ever is when a movie like that gets a high critic score. Well, if it's like the highest version of what it is, that actually can, you know, critics can meet the moment. We've really been selling Whale Fall on this podcast. I know. It better be the best fucking thing that ever happened. I can promise that. Okay. Well, thank you both for playing, another one of my games. Sure. I really appreciate you. I think you're both very special people. Sorry for no selling you. It's okay. I just got distracted. By the pop-up ass? And just the whole not being able to jerk off after a vasectomy. I was wondering what was wrong. No, I know. That was a really weird comment. I said that you could. I'm going to have a bad dream about that comment. It's getting your nuts cut. I don't think you'd be able to if your nuts were cut, right? We might say get your nuts cut four times going forward. Just you saying it fewer times, please. Super cut. Thank you to our producer, Jack Sandler, for his work on this episode. Thank you to Lucas Cavanaugh, Manning, The Clock, and The Doc. Next up, the Diane Keaton Hall of Fame. Yeah. Okay, not on that. I got to go watch a lot of movies. Yeah, well, we have one week. I've done some of my work. Fortunately, my dear wife loves herself some Diane Keaton, so she's been riding shotgun with me while we power through some of these films. I wish you luck with years 2008 through 2025. I said I'd do it. Is Tracy taking the first? No, Tracy's not doing this. Tracy's not participating in this one. Oh, but you've already watched the other ones? Well, I mean, I've seen many Diane Keaton films and I really thought that I knew everything, but, you know, I missed Palms, so. That'd be cool if she had like a whole red box era that nobody knew about. She does. She kind of does. She kind of does. She has the elder lady version of that. Love Weddings and Other Disasters starring Diane Keaton, Jeremy Irons, Maggie Grace, Diego Boneta, and Andrew Batchelor. Me either, but I'm. 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